Raheem Kassam - Can Great Britain be Great Again

the proper way to tie a windsor not. Mister Raheem Kassam, good to have you answer. What an introduction, and not least because you know, from a very arcane perspective, indefatigable is how the British parliamentarian George Galloway of the far

left once described Saddam Hussein. So I'm delighted. I think the word existed and was used in many other contexts for a long time, like isn't there like an hms indefatigable or maybe it's a long once or maybe that's a bit probably too long to to paint on the side of of a boat of a battleship. But raheem. You know, we've been doing these conversations and the audience response has been great because we're just getting really interesting people on to talk about whatever is top of mind.

So one way I I like to start is just to get you to tell me right now what in the world of politics. We're going to cover a whole range of things here. One of the world of politics gets you the most fired up, like what are you focused on? I don't know about focus. M That's a word that escapes me. I'm kind of a scatter brain in politics. It's like books as well. I'm reading fifty at a time and I never finished any of them.

But something that has occurred to me, you know, there are several things that have occurred to me a lot recently, especially in you know, with the Biden classified documents thing going on in the background, is that is that like I still can't put my finger on who got Biden elected, right, and that and that bothers me as a as a as a point, like when you look at Trump, people say Bannon. You look at Obama, people say Jim Messner and David Plath and David Axel, Rod Bush, Karl Rove.

But there isn't one in Biden world, and I that bothers me because of you know, so many different things, so many different big question marks that were over the

twenty twenty election in general. But for there not to be somebody out there doing ted talks and being on the front cover of Time magazine being called the you know, the man who got the most votes for a presidential candidate in American history is a pretty big thing that you want to claim and and you know, a big, big medallion that you want to wear around your neck, but nobody seems to want to claim it, and that

bothers me. Yeah, well, there's certainly something going on right now with his if a staff is on the way out there. There have just been the news reports about that that you're not gonna have ron Klain anymore because people have been It's really, i think, in an addendum in many ways to your to your point here, which is not only who's respect who's responsible for getting him elected, but who is the person who's really calling the shots,

who's really running things, you know, behind the scenes. A lot of people, it said ron Klain, the White House Chief of Staff now White House Chief of Staff, depending on who it is I think can matter a lot or a little for an administration. Uh does any even really remember the Trump White House chiefs of staff? I don't think that, you know, No one said, oh my gosh, the days of Ryan's previous and uh and the you know the guy with the Irish name, who was you

know omb yeah, omb budget guy before that. Um, But so you have Clain on the way out and this guy's zigns, I'm not sure how to say his name even who was the COVID czar that we never heard about? Really, he's going to be taking over, So who actually calls the sharks for Biden? As he's leaving all the classified all of the place and looking like he's constantly confused

Barack Obama and Susan Rice. I mean that that's kind of one of the least well kept secrets here in Washington, DC, is that most of most of what this regime is currently doing comes from his previous boss that I think you know. And Susan Rice was one of the names that was floated. Now they're saying it's going to be

Jeff Zience. Jeff Ziens, by the way, an important character to note, not just because of his his you know, World Economic Forum billionaire credentials, but also because of as you say this, this covidsar who was a COVID ZAR, but really quietly, and you have to understand this point in time, in twenty twenty three, the United States is still one of the only countries in the world that doesn't allow non citizens in if they're not vaccinated. So Zion is still doing the bidding of big COVID behind

the scenes, very quietly. And the fact that he's being elevated now to this this prestige position in American politics is honestly, it's like a It's like a path on the back and a thank you for continuing to do that on behalf of you know, big farmer, big government, whatever you want to, you know, whatever you want to, you know, daub the apparat human time, interrrational, reasonable world, where heim shouldn't the guy who was the Covids are who said that a winter of death was coming for

anybody who didn't get vaccinated. That's a quote that you were going to overrun the hospitals if you didn't get vaccinated. These were things that he was saying in twenty twenty one, going into the winter period. You would think that he should not only be fired, but honestly shamed and and and removed ignominiously from the public square. And yet he's now White House Chef of staff. It's a promotion which I think says a lot about how the Democrat apparatus

views COVID, even at this stage. Yeah, but I'll go you one further. I mean, you know, again, as I say, this is a this is a slap on the back for and well done, old boy for for doing that. But is it's worse than that? Right in any rational world?

You said in any rational world, Well, in any rational world, the the person who put together the original COVID task force should be susceptible to class action lawsuits from all the people who lost their businesses, all the people who lost their loved ones as a result of all of that. And that person was Mike Pence. So you know, there's blame to go around on all sides on this, especially for those who got the ball rolling at that, you know, the opening days of COVID. Let me ask and Jeff Zience.

Just just to conclude on the Jeff Zions point, you know, this for him is very much an opportunity to take that kind of totalitarian mindset and run the Oval Office with it. Yeah. No, absolutely. I mean it's it's like they got there their trial run of communism and now they're saying, oh, you're ready for the big leagues of being a commie at the highest level. Yeah, Raheem. You mentioned the Trump or rather Pence, the Trump administration and COVID.

I really, I really want to dive into your feelings about where Trump is right now and that whole conversation. You have very interesting views on this and I want to get into that in a second. But first, my friends, if you've ever had one of American giants incredibly comfortable hoodies, you've if you've ever tried one, touch one, put one on, you know they're the highest possible quality. I'm all about comfort,

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Warp Speed is. I mean, I heard him recently say that the vaccine saved hundreds of millions of lives. I have been a huge Trump supporter. I like the guy very much personally. I think he did phenomenal things for our country as president. The vaccine did not save hundreds of millions of lives. So how do we deal with this? What's going on? Yeah? So typically there has been one critical area where you know, even Trump, even the most ardent Trump supporters, will say, Okay, he has a he

has a blind spot on that. But given that it's you know, his only massive blind spot, we're willing to to not overlook it, but at least at least forgive elements of it. And that was personnel, right, The personnel choices that both the Trump administration made and the Trumper operation as it has been since after its presidency, remain

curious to a lot of people. And again, most people understand that when they when they choose somebody, when they go to bat for somebody, when they put their eggs in the basket of a presidential candidate, that they're not looking for perfection. They're willing to say, you know, no man is perfect, no woman is perfect. No candidate will

therefore be perfect. But in doing what he's been doing over the last you know a couple of years now, as it regards the big farmer vacciness, he's opening up an unnecessary second weak spot as far as his base is concerned, and there are major complaints about it now.

I do think, however, that a lot of people are overestimating what that if impact is, and I think especially a lot of people who want other candidates to be the president Republican president next time around, are certainly overestimating the impact of that. But you're right to say that I don't think it's doing Trump any good at all, and it is in fact putting off some of his supporters. The important part of this actually is what Ron De Santis himself did. Since I alluded to it, I'll say it,

which is a course correction. And there's no reason that Donald Trump can't make a course correction on this as well. Early days of of COVID, the governor of Florida was doing very similar things to a lot of the other the governors. But but you know, the end of the thirty days to slow the spread, as a lot of the rest of us did. And I hold my hand up and say myself included here we course corrected, right.

We realized what this thing was being used for. We realized that, you know, European countries may want to do this, the Chinese may certainly want to do this, but frankly, it's not the American way. And you know, RDS to his credit course corrected. People with any level of I might vote Trump next time around, will still forgive him if he course corrects on this, and he's going to

have to. We all know he's going to We all know he's going to turn around at some point and say, look, I did what I was told was that it was in the interest of the public. It was the time when my administration came together the best. We delivered the things that were expected to be delivered of us, even though people said we weren't able to do it. We then saw collusion even between the health industry and pharmaceutical lobby to delay the rollout of the vaccine itself. And

yet I still get no credit. Well, you know, that's all well and good, but he's going to come out. He's gonna have to come out, and I think he will come out at some point and say, you know, well I was tricked just like the rest of you. Where do you come down at this point on the looming showdown that you know, everyone is expecting Trump and de Santis in a primary. Now I know Trump has announced,

de Santis has not, who knows. I'm a big proponent of saying nobody can predict the future, and all you can do is look back at people's predictions, and you know that nobody can predict the future. They can get it right. They can get binaries meaning a yes or no or you know, A or B right about fifty percent of the time, which makes sense, right, people will get it as often as they don't when they're trying

to predict events for the most part. That all said, with all that throat clearing in place, are you already determined that it's one or the other in terms of what you think is best for the Republican Party or are you in wait and see mode? Yeah? I feel like the zen Master. You know, It's that It's that moment from Charlie Wilson's War. You know, the zen Master says, we'll see, we'll see. But but you know, the foundation

is clearly obviously there for Rhonda Santists. It's there amongst the people around him, it's there amongst the donor class that have clearly said that they're on his side. It's there in terms of a level of the grassroots support now who say they want him to run. It's it's it's visible to me that everything that you would want in place for a presidential run, Rhonda Santist has seems to have in place. Whether or not that's of his doing is another concern there are. I'm currently reading a

book by Rhonda Santists. Not many people have read it or even know that he wrote a book, but he did. This was before he was a public figure at all, really, and it was during the Obama administration. And he goes into quite a lot of detail about constitutional law, the unders, the federalist papers, and it's it's so clear that he's a genuinely like brilliant constitutional mind that the writing is

excellent for somebody who hadn't written a book before. The framing is excellent, The points he makes throughout the book a point and not talking points, you know. And I remember once interviewing him back and I think it was twenty fifteen or sixteen, and saying to him at the time, look, I hope you don't mind me saying, but I think you've got it. You know, the look, the family, the experience, the awards and the military, so on and so forth. The problem I have here is almost like Trump as well,

is the people around him. I'm not sure that Ronda Santis has a team around him that a lot of people will find palatable. He certainly doesn't have a lot of donuts, big donors that a lot of people will

find palatable. And so when I said in the last conversation that we were having on the last topic about what can be forgiven and what can't be I think a lot of Republicans will air on the side if it's between Trump and DeSantis, with better the devil you know than the devil you know than the devil you don't. And they will also be asking a lot of questions about, well, you know, who is advising him on foreign policy? He's been, he's saber rattled a lot on the Middle East and

Iran and Israel and all of these things. Is he going to be another Bush? He will have as many questions to answer on those debate stages as Donald Trump will,

and I think people should rejoice about that. I think the Republican base deserves a full and rough and hard and difficult primary because for two reasons, not just because it allows for those arguments to be had and those what might seem to be sort of niche issues to come out, but also it trains that person up, whoever you know, becomes the nominee, it trains them up for

the bigger occasions, the presidential debates, the campaign itself. And I think if Trump lacked anything last time in his campaign, it was that he didn't go through a primary, right, he didn't get to warm up before the big fight. Yeah, and if you're a boxer, if you're in any sport, really you don't want to go out there for the championship and not have actually done your thing for weeks

or even even months beforehand. So I can see. I think you're right by the way that it's almost a stone upon which the blade can be sharpened for any politician. But on our side, we're certainly going to need that

given the media reality that we're up against. I want to ask you about the royal family rahem, which I will do in just a second in case anyone couldn't figure it out from his accent, which I know many of us are jealous of because it is super fancy and adds a level of gravitass to everything that he says. Raheem is from the United Kingdom, and I have some questions about this. There's this book out, there's an obsession in the media with the author of this book, and

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as as entirely ridiculous. Why why do people care so much? Both in the UK and here at home about say, the spare Prince Harry biography and the Meghan Markle back and forth, all this stuff. I look at this and I'm like, these are these are celebrities basically like this, I might as well be watching, you know, the latest on the Kardashians, you know who they're dating or something.

I just don't care. Am I missing something? Please explain to me, because you actually come from Great Britain, Go ahead, well I do, and I actually come from a historic county called Middlesex. And I just saw that your your American Giant hoodies are made in Middlesex, North Carolina, so we have a we have a link there. I am a monarchist, and I'm a proud one. I believe in

the institution of monarchy. I believe in having a part of your government being there for the long haul, and therefore having the nation's interests at heart, rather than re election or fundraising or anything like that at heart. I don't believe in a in a tyrannical or dictatorship. I don't believe in a in a vast amount of executive authority being vested in the crown. But there is a difference. There is a difference between the crown, right, the monarchy

is an institution and the royal family. The royal family, like you say, can become very much like watching reality teller vision and and the tabloid papers love to make it that right. Um, Megan Markel is really the reason that we're having this conversation here, and I'll remind you where she comes from and it is not the United Kingdom,

so so so thank you for that. And of course the last big blow up that we had really I mean, you know, if you exclude Diana from it in and of herself, was you know Wallace Simpson another American who got embroiled in the royal family and caused the king to abdicate. This is blaming America for the British royal families mess ups. Look at this. I will take responsibility for Christopher Steele if you take responsibility for Megan Markle.

That's all I'm saying, right, unbelievable, unbelievable. But so you think that there is a role for it? Oh? Massive, I mean massive, I mean this is this is actually you asked me what you know what really sort of is bugging me politically at the moment and maybe even

keeping me up at night a little bit. It is the incoming constitutional vandalism that we were about to see because the Labor Party, which is which is our left wing party in the United Kingdom, looks like it's going to take the reigns of government next time around after there is an election, and they have promised to abolish the House of Laws that is our upper chamber. They

will replace it with an elected Senate. And my position on this is that what is the point of bicamerality, right, two chambers in your congress, parliament, whatever, if they're both chosen in the same way. I think you guys had a constitutional amendment that reflected from number seventeen or something like that that changed the nature of what your set, how your Senate was chosen, and it basically ruined the Senate.

The Senate was never supposed to be just another democratic body full of politicians, and they're going to do that to our House of Lords. So here's the thing. So we're going to have two democratic chambers in our parliament. The executive branch in the United Kingdom is also chosen from the parliament, and then you're basically saying there shouldn't be a monarchy either, So at that point you've got

a tyranny of the majority system. It doesn't work. There has to be something more than just politicians who push

that stuff around. And it's really interesting to me because Kars Starmer Circus Starmer, who is the leader of the Labor Party right now, who will become the prime minister if the polls remain the same, went to Davos, went to the World Economic Forum and he was asked by a reporter, Emily Maitliss, if you had to choose between Westminster and Davos, which would it be, And he said Davos, Well, it's interesting, isn't it that he is the one that's

charging head first with constitutional vandalism and at the same time he thinks the unelected other way to get things done. It doesn't it doesn't hold. The argument doesn't hold. And so I think you do need somebody who has the long term interest in the nation at heart. So even if they don't have real power, right like it's a symbolism that's supposed to be. I don't even know what authority is dilvested in the monarch. Well, the very It's

interesting because in my book Enoch was right. I talk about this right in nineteen forty eight, when the Canadians effectively created their own form of nationality and said we're not subjects anymore, we have Canadian citizenship. It changed everything for the entire British Empire. And so we went from subjects to citizens within the same period of time. But what are you citizens off is the question? Because of course we have England, we have Wales, we have Northern Ireland,

we have Scotland. Several of those make up Great Britain. Several more of those together make up the United Kingdom. You know, we have this kind of grand union of different countries and entities that voluntarily come together, much like your states. Right, And they say, okay, we are going to vest our power in the nation, but what is the nation? Well, the nation has to be more than the sum of its politicians, right, It can't just be some tech that are scribbled down. Because you know, you

have a constitution. Remember we don't have a written constitution. We have an evolving constitution. Right. Our primary law is our constitution. It's it's it's it gets very complicated, but it's not dull. I assure you that I know, a lot of people get sort of think, oh, you know, what do I know about constitutional you know, import and all of this stuff as it relates to politics. It's everything. If you don't understand the way your country works, then

you can't really complain about how it works. And at the end of all of the all of the questions that are raised about what makes Britain Britain is the crown, because the crown is the connection between the nation and God. That's why, as you'll see when Charles is crowned, if formally that they will touch his head with anointing oil, and that is the head of the Church of mind. Isn't the crown that the head of the Church of England.

Technically that's that's how this that is what signifies, which I think not the man that really has the power is Big Odds that has the power. I think Hitchens. Hitchens, who was just a poor man's raheem becausam Christopher Hitchins used to say that, yes, the Church of England built on the family values of Henry the Eighth, which I think it's pretty funny, but anyway, it was a Hitchens line. Um.

But yes, back to back to the Crown. By the way, I'm not sure that Christopher Hitchins can can can wax moral um about anybody else's exploits. Well, he's certainly not here anymore to defend himself, so there's that. But but tell me this, um uh, Well, I was actually gonna ask you something kind of silly for a second, just to take us in a different direction. Do you do you watch The Crown like every because I tried to fight it as long as I can. But you know,

you have a girlfriend, I have a fiance. The ladies love that show man. I don't know. I couldn't fight it off anymore. I was like, all right, fine, honey, we'll watch The Crown. And it's pretty engrossing for what it is. Yeah. Actually, my girlfriend doesn't like the Crown, and I think it calls She's just like a very red blooded American patriot and finds it all very stuffy and boring. And he did fight a war elevant not that long ago, so we would pretty much never have

to pay any attention to that royal family ever. Again here that that is the thing. So for Americans. That's why I ask you, as a brit why do you care as an Americans. I do not want to hear it from people. It's bizarre the fixation they have with the the British royal family. It makes no sense to me at all, But for British people, I understand. Um, so that's that's one air. So we've we've well, look, I mean, The Crown is a good show. It's not particularly true to real life, but it's it's it's it's

very entertaining. The interest in it, however, speaks to something broader, I think, And I know you're not going to like what I'm about to say, but I do think Americans kind of miss something. They miss this this institution almost. I'm not saying that they want to be ruled from London, right.

You maybe want your own monarchy, but people want something that spirational and in a country where we have the founding Fathers being torn down all the time, and there's there, I think there is something that, look, we all love like I'm sure there were. Of course, there's British Republicans who want the an end to the monarchy and so on and so forth, and that and that is only unfortunately going to grow and grow with with Charles at

the helm Um. But everyone basically loved her Majesty the Queen. They understood that her life was Yes, she gets to live in nice, big palaces, but they understood that her life was really service. And I was lucky enough to be able to go to Windsor Castle and pay my respects at her tomb recently. And and and we had as a nation we could come together and celebrate, um

that that person doing such great things. UM. I just offhand referred to her as as in terms of popularity, the Dolly Parton of the of the United Kingdom, which Clay thought. He was like, you're you're crazy. You're gonna get so so bashed or attorney. There was like a big Tennessee newspaper that picked that up or you know that he took that line. I don't they heard it from me, or they just went with it. But she was like the Dolly Parton of the United Kingdom. Everybody

loved her, which I thought was pretty funny. Um okay. So see, we had Viri Lynn during the during the Second World War, we had Viri Lynn and Viri Lynn. People will know the song We'll Meet Again and actually We'll Meet Again was one of the last songs that was ever played on one of the Queen's Christmas addresses, and so that I feel like Viri Lynn was kind

of our Dolly parton. I feel like the reason you don't have a comparison is because of the very short term nature of both your politics and your celebrity life. And again, it's hard to explain because I understand that constitutionally you guys are reversed to it, but from an institutional perspective, a lot of a lot of Britons like myself look at it and go, I'm so comforted by that.

So this, this turns, this turns into the next. I think it's an easy way to transition into something that to me is is related and you can take this ever you want. Um which is I remember, I think it was actually Andrew Tate before he was held in prison. He has UK citizenship as well as American citizenship. I think he said that England is a country that no longer stands for anything, that won't and that won't defend its values in as effectively in terminal decline as a society.

Do you agree with that diagnosis? And I asked because as an American, I think a lot of people look at Canada, Look at the UK. Look at Australia. I was living in and now I've never been there, and I don't profess to be an Australia expert. I thought it was kind of like the United Kingdom with nicer people in kangaroos, But turns out they're a bunch of socialists who will do whatever they're told and embrace authoritarianism,

embraced the most insane COVID lunacy. And that really worries me in a society that it can't actually be nimble and adapt to reality as it happens, that it could be overtaken by a mass hysteria. Same thing in Canada under Trudeau. Is the UK a country, and so we think that those places are just further ahead of America. You know, there there are warning signs of what we will turn into if we don't stand for certain values freedom, liberty, individuality.

Is the UK in terminal decline. What do you make of that? Serfdom? I mean, what you're talking about is serfdom, right, and it's it's it's the worst part of it is almost the choice to be a serf, to be a slave to your to your government, your bureaucrats, your politicians, and forget that they are the ones who are either supposed to represent your interests or as you guys once did you know, they'll get tarred and feathered and tossed overboard and serfdom is a very difficult thing in a

world that is increasingly relativistic morally and is increasingly secularized because because government has become the religion. You know, in the United Kingdom, the National Health Service which is failing, I mean failing. They're having to set up temporary morgues and mortuaries across the country because the National Health Service is killing people. It is killing people by not showing

up in time when ambulances are called. It is killing people because it is spending gargantu in sums of money. You know, the National Health Services budget has doubled in the last I think it's ten, ten to fifteen years. The health has doubled. Do you think we have seen commensurate rises in care as a result of that budget doubling. No, we haven't. We've actually seen a worsening in care over the last decade in the United Kingdom and the National Health Service, you know, they call it the envy of

the world. I have never met anybody anywhere in the world who envies our healthcare system. I've never met anybody anywhere in the world who looks at my teeth and goes, well, that's wonderful. I want to use the dentists that you're using. And and you know, we've we've placed God with government

in our societies. We've replaced you know this, this this appeal to something greater than us and greater than the little, particular particularisms of the lives, all little lives we lead with bureaucracy and the boring nature of the things that they tell us are moral, which are oftentimes wildly immoral things. Right, I think of transgender you know, library drag queen our or whatever they're calling it nowadays, is one of the

great examples of what is being deified. So it's like a bathtub right where where we know that we have to keep that tub full of warm water, that that that that cleanses us, that nourishes us, that protects us, that keeps us warm. Meanwhile, our davos ali are constantly pulling the plug and we're just constantly trying to trying to plug that hole with with all manner of things.

Brexit as a good example of that, right that that was the United Kingdoms electorate slamming their hand on the drain and saying, well, well, well, well we need our own, you know, system of government to keep us independent, to keep us sovereign, to keep us safe, and to hold our belief in something. But the problem with that is, sorry, I know I'm break it because you're very close to it and know Nigel, and so I want to put

a pin in that. But keep going. But just in conclusion of all of that point, you know, you ask about terminal decline, it's not that. It's not that we the people of any of these western countries necessarily believe in the terminal decline of our nations. Yes, of course, some silly Marxists you know, have bought into it, but they we can overcome those people. We are stronger than

them in very many ways. But but it's that every time we get anywhere close to not just stopping that, but actually turning the taps on and refilling the bathtub, it's the it's the you know, we call them the Davos Elite. Today it's it's Davos one day, it's Brussels. Another, It's Capitol Hill another. All of those people and all of those institutions are still just tugging away at that at that drain. Now, you did have a decline particular, right, right,

you did have a particular view of Brexit. Somebody who you were on Nigel Farage's staff, you know Nigel very well, you know the Brexiteers personally and in a close way. We were told, I mean, if you were somebody who was reading you know, the Economist or the editorial page of the New York Times, that Brexit was going to lead to calamity. Right, I'm not sure if it was going to be that all the Brits would be starving, but you know, bad things were going to happen from it,

and then it was madness. What has been the report card since Brexit? I mean, what has gone on? How would you view it now that some years have passed since that event that seemed to shock the international elites and create this moment of maybe we're not all going to be taking orders from bureaucrats in Brussels. Actually, now, this is this is where it gets really interesting. Because I talked earlier about how kiss Stamol wants to replace

the House of Lords with with a Senate. Well, why does he really want to do that, Because what he intends to do is pass primary legislation in the House of Commons to rejoin the European Union, and he knows it will be easier to pass in an elected Senate to rejoin the European Union than it would pass through the House of Lords in our current constitutional format. So so right now in the British press on an almost daily basis, and I go through it on an almost

daily base. Well, now I go through it on a daily basis. You see, you know, when are we going to rejoin the EU? Should Britain rejoin the EU? Brexit is least less popular than ever before, and as the older generation that predominantly voted for Brexit is dying out unfortunately, and as the Conservative part Conservative Party continues to govern as a center left party, Brexit is being watered down,

it is being neutralized. There are all sorts of things that are blamed nowadays on Brexit that that have nothing to do with Brexit, but the British public sort of looks at it and they're told it by the Sun newspaper and the Times newspaper and the Murdoch Press and and Sky News and the BBC, and they're told it and they go, oh, yeah, I guess it must have

been Brexit. What a bad idea. So I think unfortunately we're looking at a campaign now to return to to the European Union within the next five years, and and they may well win that campaign. Is Britain salvageable as a great country with a great tradition and a great people, Well, you've described almost no longer exist. There is no one, you know, one British people anymore. In a lot of ways.

I am evidence of that. You know, my parents were well, my father was born in Tanzania, my mother was born in India. My lineage goes back to India. Um and and a lot of people who are of my ilk chose not to assimilate, and they chose not to you know, have traditional British values, and they chose not to learn the language as as as fluently as I did, and they chose to kind of not have I wouldn't say like a dual loyalty, but certainly like a dualism right

inside themselves. That that that, you know, and I don't like this. I don't like. I just I mean British of the American people. You know, the American people as one people exist. It's not about any racial, ethnic or religious identity. It's about your identity as an American. Bamba. The Constitution and our culture are shared history. So right, So is the UK salvageable in as that or is it breaking apart? I'm leading up to Yeah, go ahead, go ahead. Sorry, I just I like to flesh those

things out, you know. And you the reason I say that, it's because you do it too, right, African American, Asian American, and everybody gets sort of segmented into these little identity groups, and we've done that as well. Unless there is a minister, a real sort of philosopher king that comes along and and reminds the country that it is one country in a very Disraelian sense, right, one nation. Conservatism was was

the longest running strain of conservative thought in the United Kingdom. Ever, unless somebody comes along and reminds the general public of that and indeed forces them to believe in it, right Like, I don't mean, I don't mean through coercion, I mean through argument, you know, gets them to believe in that goal. Then then no, there isn't a United Kingdom anymore, and

nor should we pretend that they will be. You cannot have a cohesive nation if everybody is taught that they are part of a different group than their next door neighbors. Is it more left wing as a country now in its totality than the US? I mean, you have a means of comparison here. You know, one thing that I think people have recognized about Canada is if you take the most you know, beta male low t Marxist leadership in America, that's actually much more common and much more

powerful in the context of Canada and Trudeau and Trudeauism. Right, So is that also true about the UK? Right now? Are they even? Are they more awoke? I don't even know how much that term is used over there and then we are here. Oh it's used. It's used way too much over there, and it's it's used in a really cringe way. So so they don't say, like somebody goes, you know, woke In the UK, woke is the is

the adjective that describes the movement. So there'll be like editorials in the Telegraph that says we must end woke, you know, as if that's like Antifa, um, and it gets up, it gets on my nerves. Just from a from a from a linguistic perspective. To answer your question, I think, governmentally, bureaucratically, we are far more of a left wing country and you should look to us as a warning of how not to run your country. Culturally. You know, I've been here for six years now. Culturally,

I think America is more left wing. People in the United Kingdom are more, you know, more inclined to say, well, let's let's take a beat on that and think about that, and think about its implications to our culture, to our neighbors,

to our society. The America seems every time somebody comes up with a you know, a progressive new thing, seems to just slam its foot on the accelerator and go, yeah, that's the new thing, and that's what we're going for now, whether it's BLM or what have you, or the transgender stuff. I mean, America, we have to we have to accept this. America is the single largest exporter of cultural Marxism in the world today, and that is a deeply, deeply shocking thing.

And of course, when you guys sneeze, we all catch a cold. That stuff is now in Britain, it is now in Australia, it is now in Canada, it is all across Europe. You know, the French actually have the lowest tolerance for this stuff of almost any European nation. I mean, apart from these deeply social conservative nations like Poland and Hungary. The French look at American political cultures as they do most as they do look at most things American. Right, but we're going to I think it's

our political culture. But yeah, they look at a lot of it. But but but on this one they're right. You know, on this thing. They're not just being French about it, They're actually being smart about it. And so you've got to know that when the French are right about something in critique of you, you've really got a problem. May we be in, sir, We'll come back with Raheim here on a second. I want to ask you what's the craziest thing that's happening in America today? So you can

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When you use promo code buck b U c k U craziest thing and you can answer this however you want to him craziest thing happening in America today. The craziest thing happening in America in America today is that is that the right has not managed cultural hegemony yet.

Like that is like, yeah, I find that utterly, utterly baffling, to be honest with you, Um, that there is so much cultural rot and disease coming out of Hollywood and New York as you know, UM, but that we haven't, that we haven't really truly cut through that yet, really embarrasses me. It speaks to our lack of creativity. It speaks to our lack of honestly, for people who regard themselves as I do, and I don't, I don't profess to speak for you in this regard, but I regard

myself as a populist. For people who regard themselves as populists, we're not very good at being popular in the things that we promote culturally. So that's why this year, I'm pleased to say, and I think you may be getting the exclusive here on this right now, that the National Pulse is going to be moving into that territory. We are going to be moving into print magazine territory. We

are going to be moving into documentary territory. We are we are just widening the scope of the things that we present to as many people as possible, because because I was reading this Michael Anton essay, actually I think it was in I Am seventeen seventy six magazine, which is a great magazine about about Tom Wolfe and about the the the vacuums that he saw around him culturally and how he just chose to fill them, right. He just told the stories that he saw before him that

he knew weren't being told anywhere else. On fire of the vanities, so on and so forth. And we've got we've got real bonfires of the vanities going on in Washington, DC right now. We've got we've got neighborhoods, predominantly black neighborhoods, by the way, which are being totally left to rack and ruin by a black mayor of Washington, d C. But nobody's telling those stories for the sake of history. Nobody's telling them for the sake of the next generation

learning from the mistakes. And so that is the thing that really really baffles me constantly, how we are not better at this yet. So, for example, because I think this comes up a lot on the right in the context of how is it that we thought the outcome here would be any different when we've been playing for this make believe neutral space in a lot of institutions for a long time, and for example, even in classrooms, they'll say, oh, well, there you're pushing your right wing

conservative values. Someone's values are going to be in the classroom. I think the right has at least woken up to that reality because of you know, transgender drag, Queen Story Hour, and all these things that have become and CRT, which is explicitly in many context anti white, explicitly racist in the way that it's presented in classrooms. People have realized that there's not this oh, we're just gonna have neutral space,

neutral space. When you have a left wing that says that you know, algebra and higher math class being taught as racist, you're going to you have to address the battle as it is and not as you wish it were. So there are some places colleges, universities, for example Rheim, that the the left will not allow there to be any who do not think like them, but given the creative areas right, So, you know, if you're in the political science department at a lot of different universities, you're

never going to get hired as an associate professor. You're never going to get tenure for sure if you're a conservative. So they operate at like a country club that won't allow in the you know, the undesirables, the conservatives in the creative side. Though, why don't we have? You berentioned Tom Wolf? By the way, Bonfire the Vanity is one of my favorite novels of all time. Took place in the Upper East Side where I grew up, and I read Tom Wolf when I was in the eighth grade.

I've read that book in the eighth grade. Why don't we produce great novels? Why don't we have It's amazing? People will say that show is conservative, or people will say The Top Gun Maverick is conservative. I say it's not conservative. It's just a movie the way movies used to be entertaining, good guys, bad guys, and not a lot of radical political theory thrown in there. Why can't we Why aren't we capable? It seems of doing more of that? Are we capable of doing more of that? Yeah?

And it's like every single time a left wing celebrity or journalist comes out on our side just a little bit, we all go nuts and hand them the football and say, right, you're you're the quarterback now. Whether it's whether it's Wise or Ricky Gervais or or you're on Musk or whatever. You know, we we we leave the people who have been fighting on our side, and we hand the ball and the control of the game over to somebody very

recently on our side. And then and then when they when they turn an ass or when they you know, express that they weren't quite signed up for the entire thing, then we go, oh my goodness. Some of us were warning about about the Kanye situation before Kanye went totally you know, whacko. Right, and and and here's look, here's a message to people who because it's Jermaine to your question, is not you and I I mean, we we do this on a daily basis, right, We are literally creating

content every single day that millions of people see. But but there's there's a lot more to the conservative cultural movement than the podcast. As the talking Heads the political strategists,

all of that. It actually really behooves the ordinary American to step into this space, because only you, who is not living in DC, who is not living in New York, who is not living in Miami, who is not living in these big cities, can talk about the experiences that you're having in your states, in your counties, in your towns, in your villages, in your you know, I don't care whether you live in a in a relatively new suburban district,

whether you live in a you in the desert. If you're not putting pen to paper and memorializing the experiences that you're having, then why do you suppose that anybody will do that for you? Right? And here's the thing, a lot of those people, we're not great writers, they were not great thinkers. What they were able to do is observe the world around them and just write enough down so that somebody somewhere could pick over it at some point in the future and go, ah, this is

what was going on in these areas. It wasn't all Biden, and it wasn't all LGBT, and it wasn't all this. We need historians to be able to see that stuff. And it is completely completely on the shoulders of ordinary Americans to make sure that that stuff stays in the historical record. The second part of this is, Um, you talked about the somebody's values is going to be in the classroom, right, and that and that's so called that

fake neutral space. Well, that fake neutral space comes from comes from secularism, it comes from science, and it comes from the expert class. The expert class that we all know were the people behind COVID, were the people saying that there'll be a third World War if, if you know,

Britain leaves the European Union. They're all saying that Donald Trump would would you know, accidentally press the nuclear button instead of the diet coke Buttonum, these are the people who need challenging and we should you know, the you know the Chad meme where it's just you know, the

guy and he just says, you know, yes, that's it. Yes. Well, when the left accuses us of oh, well you just want your philosophy in the classrooms, yes, oh you just want you know, anti abortion measures, Yes, you just don't want me you know, a man dressed up in a skirt going into the girl's locker room, Yes, you know those are the answers. It's you don't have to equivocate about those things. And we spend too much time equivocating. We want to be liked too much. Forget about it.

We're not going to be liked by the other side. You're gonna be liked by your own side. I think personally that I am going to use twenty twenty three to write more than I've ever written before because there

are so many things going on out there. I am going to do a tour of the United States and document in documentary format what is going on out there in the real United States, because very few people are telling the stories of ordinary Americans, and I think these are the times especially that those stories need to be told. And and you know, history is not written by the victors. History is written by those who bother to write it.

So let's write it. Raheim Kasalm, everybody check out the Raheem Kassam podcast and also go to the National Pulse and keep an eye out for all these projects. As Raheem, you're promising some cool stuff that people are going to be looking for it. So thank you, my friend, for coming and hanging out. And we'll have to do like a podcast after dark session at some point with some booze,

some lifestyle tips. What's the one what is the one thing raheem that the American that American men listening to this, if you could get them to either do more of or less of one thing, what would it be? Well, you know, every year is dry January for me, and it's it's a real it's it's a hardship for thirty one days. Um, and I'm going through that. It's the tail end of it right now. I'm going through it. But you know, for me, I've undertaken a lot of

different things in the last couple of years. I was I was about forty pounds heavier, um, not but twenty four months ago. Um, I've I've lost all that way. I've changed a lot of the things in my life. Um. Honestly, the things that that's made the world of difference to me from a from a physical perspective is deadlifting, running and the stem masta quite frankly that it sort of shed all of the weight for me. And the other part of it for me is um, you know, I've

very much switched. I used to be a seven eight nine points of beer and night kind of guy. You know, no dinner. It was just beer for me, and I've very much switched that out from martinis a little bit more sophisticated, a little you can you can drink fewer of them, and still you know, have that little buzz. I actually think they are far better a measure of a man than a than a than a cous light as well. And then the other thing is ignore the advice from the nutrition experts who are trying to get

you to eat crickets and all of that nonsense. The best breakfast you can have is steaking eggs, and frankly, the best every meal you can have your steak and eggs. So get on that trade. I actually totally agree. So there you go, everybody. Raheem my friend, thanks for being with us, thanks for giving us your time, and we'll have you back soon. Just thank you. Puck