Politicized Witch Hunt: Day 567

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to do. Shields high and all that good stuff We've got. We've got some milestones in the Special Council situation to address right now. We have some milestones, some things coming up here that may finally be the beginning of the end of this nightmare, which those of you who've been listening to show for a while now I've I knew it was a disaster from day one. I knew this was going to turn into exactly what it is, which

it's a politicized witch hunt. It has been going on for eighteen months, five hundred and sixty seven days as of today, five hundred and sixty seven days, that's how long this has been in the works. Thirty three people have been charged with crime since this whole thing began, thirteen Russian nationals, twelve intelligence officers, the number of the number of people who so wait, see this isn't so interesting.

You gotta add those two up. So you got twenty twenty five people they're putting out there as prosecuted in this whole thing, and those are Russian Facebook trols. You know.

They're trying to create, now a dossier, if you will, you see what I did there, a dossier to make it seem like this whole thing has not been a giant politicized scandal, which is really what It is a way of weaponizing politics, of using the power of investigation and prosecution to political scores and differences to completely undermine the notion that both parties are treated the same way in the eyes of the law. I know, Democrats get

away with it, Republicans don't. In fact, not only do Democrats get away with it, but Republicans get in trouble for things they didn't even do. That's the way our justice system seems to work at the very highest level, and that's a very damaging, very damaging perception for the American people to have. Overall, the only people who have pleaded guilty to this that are in Trump's orbit are Michael Cohen, who has pleaded guilty to tax fraud and

campaign finance charges. He is now going to be finding out how long he's been He's going to get sentenced. Former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn pleaded guilty tolign to the FBI. Paul Manner for Wor pleaded guilty to financial and tact crimes, Rick Gates conspiracy related to financial crimes and line to the FBI, Papadopoulos line to the FBI, and then you got that guy Van der Zwan who also lied to the FBI. Not a single charge on

the American side of this whole proposition. On the American citizens who have had to face justice or in this case, injustice, which is really what's happened. Not a single one has anything to do anything at all to do with colluding with the Russians, with trying to steal an election, anything anything that would fall into that category. And now we have some Now we have some things that are going

to come up. We have some additional additional information that we can expect to happen here, to get released here in the next few days. And I think that what you'll find, mind, is that the Flynn because you know, you've got the Flynn sentence in coming up, You've got you know, Cohen his whole situation, closed door testimony with James come although you're not gonna sank to Comey is

not going to give you anything interesting there. And then there's all this speculation around whether or not the final Muller Report is going to be released period, but also going to be released in the next few weeks. And with all of those things, with all those different realities swirling around right now, those possibilities, I think it's important not to lose sight of the fact that this has been the greatest political sham, the biggest injustice perpetrated by

the Department of Justice in my lifetime. There's nothing that anyone can say on this, based on all the facts we have so far, that will changed my mind. I

am certain that this is corrupt. I am certain that this has been unfair and wrong from the start because of the origins of this whole investigation, but also when you see in the processes that have been conducted here such a clear anti conservative, anti Republican bias, it's jaw dropping, it's jaw dropping, and this is what remind This is where you really have to get into the fact that

this is a revenge of the establishment. That's what's pushing I know it's the Democrats and Hillary, but it's also more than that, because you know, you had all these former members of the Justice Department signed some letter today saying that they they disapprove of Whittaker being the acting Attorney General. The truth is, if you were to go back and look at at any number of senior Department of Justice officials, I'm sure that they they despise Trump.

I'm sure they think that Trump is is, you know, bad for all kinds of reasons. And it's because if you've been working for the government for a long time, and you've bought into the government as generally a positive actor and one that is really the the shepherd of the American people. You know, the government's not there to protect our rights. This is one of the problems for people who work in the bureaucracy. It's not that the

government protects our rights. It's that the government is there to make us all better, better than we would otherwise be. But the government is there because we need guidance from the people that know more than us, that have a better understanding of how things really are than we do, and are in touch with their aspirations. It is public service, after all that they say they're doing. But whether it's Manifoort or Cohen or core see who we'll talk more

about later. None of these cases support the basic premise of this entire investigation, which was that the President of the United States, through intermediaries on his campaign, cheated use the Russians to get information on Hillary so that he could win the election. None of it. It's not there. So we're now eighteen months into this, and for what eighteen months into this, only that we can come to the recognition that the left is so dug in that

they'll never change their mind on this. It does not matter what the fact pattern is, It does not matter what they dig up here. At the very end, the Congress is just going to pick up wherever Muller leaves off, being the Democrats are going to start running investigations. The Democrats are going to push this thing as far as they can because they get political mileage out of it. There's no effort to find justice and truth in any of this. They don't care about the lives that have

been ruined, the reputations that are destroyed. I mean, does anyone really believe that General Flynn lied to these FBI guys about this because he was so worried about finding out what he had a legitimate phone call with the Russian ambassador. There was no problem, There's no reason for him to lie. People said, well, then Whitey lie, And I'm saying, well, maybe they just are saying he lied. Maybe the people that like Muller are pushing these BS

cases are going along with these inflated prosecutions. Maybe they're liars. Oh Buck, they can't be liars, really, Why you mean? Like Deputy FBI Director then acting FBI Director Andy McCabe, he can't lie. He lied under oath several times in order to cover up his conduct in this whole thing. Do you think Andy McCabe is the only one You don't think the Komi lies? Please? You don't think that Sally Yates is just a social justice warrior in the

disguise of a boring bureaucrat. Please, this is all there for you to see. You just have to look. And you can't accept what they tell you to accept. You can't just believe the stories that are being concocted, in some cases out of thin air, like the meeting with Julian Assange and manipurth that never happened. My friends, the Guardian, big international paper, came up with the story what was it a week ago? Just a lie? Why would they believe a story that's a lie? Why would they? Why

would they destroy their credibility? Oh? Because there's an international hatred for Trump too, because of so much of the truth that Trump represents. Because Trump is willing to say, you know, America is better than a lot of these other countries, and we're not gonna bend over anymore, bend the knee and say sure we're all the same. No, we're gonna lead. We're gonna do it our way, and we expect the respect that we deserve other countries. I'm them gonna like that. I do like it at all.

All right, team, We've got a lot more show coming up. We got more on the Mueller probe, and I'm going to talk to you about these the riots and France which have been successful in getting the gas tax. We voked more on climate change there and then Bush forty one and we got a jam Pack show. So stay with me. We'll be right back. Rough day in the markets today, my friends. I know we don't talk that much about about the markets, and I want to get back to the Muller probe here in just a few moments.

Rough Day in the markets though, And this I want you to pay attention to this, just because you're going to see an emboldened left here. You're going to see we're talking about Alcazio, Cortez and Warren and Sanders later on in the show. But it's it's very hard people, don't you know. The social justice warrior rhetoric doesn't resonate quite the same way when unemployments at record sixty year low.

When Black of Hispanic on a employment as it is currently in this country is that it's all time low. When the stock market is doing incredibly well, job growth is very strong. You know, people don't really want to hear that much about Marxism and redistribution wealth. It's when things get scary, It's when the left has a crisis to exploit. That's when it's time for the rest of us to worry. And we may be heading into that territory. And there's a lot of factors. And I'll tell you

one thing. One thing that you know about the economy is that everyone who tells you they have the answer doesn't have the answer. There's so many things that go into this. You're talking about a vast, vast, almost chaos system. When you're looking at the entirety of the US economy and ties with the global economy, it's I mean, it's probably technically not a chaos system, you know what I mean. It's so much going on that it's very hard to look at this and pinpoint one thing as the reason

for this. But you know, when you have the dow drop whatever was six hundred some points today are saying the economy is slowing down, there's some aspect of it that's certainly cyclical. Um, there is some aspect of it that is the result of our unwillingness, and this is a bipartisan unwillingness to change our ways, to spend less money, to be less involved in um, you know, less involved in saddling future generations with debt. You know, no one wants to do that. No one wants to touch medicare

and medicate don't. No one seems to care that we're twenty one tillion dollars in debt, but the numbers care and eventually this will all cutch up to us. And eventually it could be you know, a few months from now now. I don't think that the global economy is going to completely tank and collapse. I think that if you know you're you're a betting man or woman. Yeah, America is going to be wealthier in ten years than it is today. I think that's a fair I think

that's a fairly certain bet to make. But what does it look like for the Trump administration and conservatism in this country and limited government If we have a president who is as embattled by the media as he currently is, with as much left wing hatred for him as we have seen going on now for a long time. We have all those things, and on top of that, you have an economy that's that's in recession. I mean, that's

really talking about. This has been my concern all along the way, that you get a far left, really destructive candidate. I mean someone described me in today that that, you know, Barack Obama. Where people don't realize is that for entrepreneurs and businesses that weren't highly, highly entrenched and politically connected, that Barack Obama was like an eight year waterboarding for American capitalism, which I thought it was a pretty funny

way of describing it. But you know, the truth is that if we have a recession, if we have this major setback and it's gonna take a while to come out of it, you your recession is it's gonna be painful, and then you got to dig your way out. And that coincides with the twenty twenty election. That's how I think you look. I'll say it that so I think you could end up with the President Sanders, as nuts as that may sound, as much as we could sit here and say, hold hold on, hold on a second,

hold on a second. You can't spend thirty four trillion dollars on Medicare for All that you don't have. I mean, I think if you were to cut out all all defense spending you would manage to get Well, we're spending basically a eight hundred eight hundred billion dollars a year

on defense. So if you're looking at let's just call it thirty four trillion dollars of spending over a ten year period for Medicare for all, it's essentially a complete doubling of the federal budget for all other for all expenditures, it doubles the federal budget. You could get rid of all military spending. You wouldn't even put a dent in Medicare for all, not even a dent, so I mean, I mean maybe a dent, but not you can get not even close to paying for it, I mean a

fraction of it. So how do you get a politician who's going to come into office and when when the numbers don't add up, When when there's clearly no way for anybody with a calculator and a basic grasp of facts and say yeah, they're policy works with the way you do it, the way you make it all happen

is you you prey upon people's fears. You prey upon their concerns that the dollar is crashing, that they're not going to have a job, that their their industry is going away, and they're not gonna be able to feed their families. And you say, I'll save you. I'll come along. I'll be the one who Just give me more control, Just give me more power over finances in this country, over everything, over the law, over the economy. And I'm worried. I think we have a confluence of factors here that

going into twenty twenty, and we're already there. We're already at the beginning of the twenty twenty ramp all right, the ramping up is happening now. I were that as we get closer to that, what we're going to see is that the economy starts to go bad and the radicals on the left will be ascendant. Trump will just be completely under siege, and we could end up having a aneleectoral disaster befall us in twenty twenty one that

would make unfortunately Trump's miraculous win. I feel like a distant memory, but I got to talk to you about Jerome Corsi in the Special Council I don't want to skip past that's that's coming up here in just a moment. Stay with me. The key thing was that they wanted me to be the key link between. It was going to be Roger Stone to me to Julian Assage, and then they'd have all their collusion together. It would be Roger Stone to Steve Bannon to Donald Trump and coordination

with Assage. Except I figured out on my own Assange had Podesta's emails. I never have met Assange. I've never talked to Assange or emailed him, and I have no contact with anyone who is in touch with Assange. And the prosecutors refused to believe this, so it led to grilling after grilling after grilling. You know, there's Jerome Corsi just saying that the prosecutors, the Mueller probe, you know, they they have a very clear agenda. And I think we all know that that's been true from the start.

But remember the prosecutors. We've come to accept that prosecutors are trying to get to a certain outcome in this case, they are trying to prove that Trump colluded with Russia. And what he's saying, what Corsi's saying here is that it's very obvious in his dealings with them that that's they're they're going after him now on a minor not even really a lie, a misremember ring of something that is not important, and that they that they already knew

or remember that too. He lied about fording an email. They had all his emails, That's how they knew he lied. So they already knew that he was in contact with somebody. So why would he lie? And I don't mean that, why would he lie? There must be something more there. I'm saying clearly it's an error, a good faith there or not a you know, he wasn't going to get

away with it. I mean if somebody, you know, if I sit down with the police and they say, all right, we've got your phone records in our hand, who did you call last week? Name everybody you called last week? And I named, you know, seven of the eight people. I didn't leave off that eighth person because I think I'm gonna you know, you know, managed to drop that one off the radar. I just didn't remember, right, That's

effectively what they did to Corsi. But but the more important point here is that he knows from having to deal with them that they're trying to get to a certain now that they're trying to prove that something happened, even though as any prosecutor, as any investigator will tell you, remember, as a special prosecutor, they're investigating something. They're supposed to be investigators. If the facts lead them away from the conclusion that a crime was committed, that's really important too,

you know. It's it's the cases that you don't bring, that you don't prosecute, that you step away from as a prosecutor that really defined your judgment and your ability to get justice for people you're not supposed to say, Oh, well, you know, I was told to get this guy, so I'm just gonna get him. And it is very clear to me from what we've seen so far that this is all that the end state here has already been determined.

Trump did something bad. That's what Muller thinks, or rather that's what Muller wants to show, whether it happened or not. That's he wants to take Trump down for doing the bad thing. And every step that Muller takes in the intern, he's meant to create that perception and make that the reality. It's not Oh, you know what, we don't have the information that we thought we would here. Maybe we should step away from this. Maybe this actually didn't happen the way. No,

they're always just coming back with another version. But by the way, you know, this reminds me of the Durst said this to me on my show. First, I'm just saying, and then later he went on to say it on some other shows. I think this was him on Fox. This is what Dursh feels about this Coursi situation playclip eight.

In fifty five years of practicing criminal law, I have never heard or read of any case where a person was allowed to amend his testimony and then corrected it and was then threatened with indictment for the unamended original alleged lie. That just seems utterly unprecedented. If those facts are correct, I think he would have a very defensible case and it would have a pretty good chance of winning, and probably would be why it's not necessarily to capitulate

to the threats of prosecution. Isn't that interesting here? You have whatever you think of him in his politics. Dersh the Dirsh is a seasoned, seasoned attorney and a very sharp legal mind. And he's saying, of course he should stand stand tall on this one, assuming the fact pattern is. Of course he says it is. And look, I know people said, of course he's a conspiracy theorist. Whatever. He's a smart guy. You know this is no, we're not dealing with Alex Jones here, even though I know he

works with Alex Jones. Of course, he strikes me as a pretty sharp individual, meaning that you know, his synapses fire pretty quickly upstairs. And you know, this could be a real stumma black. I mean, can you imagine for a second he refuses to take this, you know, they say they're gonna charge, and refuses to take the day

he refuses to flip? What if he beats it? What if Corsi And I know this is a little bit of supposition right now, and who knows, but imagine for a moment that the guy who's like working at info Wars and all and and has this long history with the he actually got into an exchange with with Jamal from from Hill TV works with me. Jamal's a Democrat,

great guy, He's a Democrat. Uh, And they got an exchange about the Obama birth certificate that just got that just got fiery because course he really does believe or at least says he believes that the birth certificate that we've never seen the original, you know, and I see that, I'm like, oh my gosh, just anything, anything but the birth certificate discussion. I was, I was stuck on TV for that one. Um. But you know, you can, you

can bring up all those issues. But that guy Corsi may be the first one who stands up to the Mueller machine and wins. And what would that say? What would that tell you if in fact he fights this and we because you let me answer the question, what that would show you is that, sure enough, this is

just about perjury trap. Sure enough, this whole thing has been find people, find a way to twist the law, to put them in criminal jeopardy, to threaten to lock them up unless they tell you everything they know about everything. And Dersch also said that, by the way play nine, the modus operandi of the Special Council is to get as many people as possible to commit perjury or to lie, and then squeeze them and use pressure on them to have them testify against the major targets of the investigation.

And what Judge Ella said appropriately. Is the risk of that is not only will some people sing, but they will compose, they will elaborate, they will tell the story even better because they know that the better the story, the better the deal. That's right, And here's what everyone really needs to remember. Here's what you won't hear from anyone else. But I can see this one coming with Corsi.

What they want isn't necessarily for him to give the smoking gun of Russia Trump collusion that is a criminal issue. All they need is Corsi to go on the record for having been part of some murky effort to get in touch with Wiki leaks to get this information. And then what they have and what they will release in the final Special Council report is the politically fatal accusation of collusion that should be impeached, not collusion that should

be prosecuted. That's what they're trying to get from Corsi volunteering to serve in World War Two, as I was going on to service as ambassador CIA to Congressman, vice president president, a whole life of public service. Donald Trup has been a life of service to himself. They both believe that the presidency is bigger than themselves, which is

not something that this president always adheres to. But I think this is also a twenty four hours of nostalgia about what leadership used to look like in this country. There's a great clip from nineteen eighty when George H. W. Bush is challenged on how tough he is, and he talks about toughness is about having values and standing for them,

being principles. Toughness is not attacking. He understood that the press wasn't the enemy of the people and even said basically, at the end of the day, we're all in this together, and I will be here for you, just like I know you would be here for me. What a remarkable difference between nineteen eighty eight and twenty eighteen. At a lot of kind of back handid praise for Bush forty one from the media establishment, you know, a lot of well, we'll put aside the things that we disagree with them

on just so we can bash Trump. You know, there's just there's there's all this dishonesty around around the conversation. I would say this to you, I mean, their favorite, the media's favorite thing about Bush forty one is that he was a one term Republican president. Let's start with that. That is their number one favorite thing is that maybe if he were more of a political pugilist, if he wasn't so gentlemanly in his approach, he might have won a second term. Ohoh, you know, look, it's would it

could have showed a who really knows. But you know, the Bush Bush forty one, when he was in office, they were saying that he was a warmonger. Uh you know, no blood for oil. I mean, these were all the things that you would hear about at the time. And now you know, some of those same voices are coming out to say, well, let's just take this as an opportunity to bash to bash Trump, and like Trump went, Trump is he's appearing at the funeral. You know, I

think he's handled this. I think he's handled this well. I also think that the country's you know, fascination with every minute of the remembrance in the aftermath of a president's life. It's interesting, it does feel, and I have a lot of respect for Push forty one. Now, I never met him. I obviously met his son a couple of times when I was at the CIA and gave

him some briefings. I never met Bush forty one. But I am just gonna say that the pomp and circumstance around Maybe this is just from the media coverage angle of it, right, like the guy should have a safety, but the pomp and circumstance of some of this, it does start to feel a little bit like we have a you know, this is like the king, and I mean this in a in a monarchical sense, right that

the monarchy has lost one of its own. You know, there's there are there are limits, So I think to what good taste and and prudence dictate for how much time and how much that you know, the country should have to focus on the passing of a future president. I'm not saying we've passed those limits whom, just saying,

you know, we need to be aware of it. I think there's a lot of and this ties into a bigger conversation than I always want to have, which is I don't think that we should I don't think that we should call former members of government by there. You know, I don't think that you should still be Speaker when you were Speak of the House and art anymore. I don't think you should be called ambassador even when you're no longer ambassador. I don't think, you know, any government

appointed title. I don't think you carry that with you the rest of your life. And I start to see some of this, some aspects of an entrenched political political class here that really does feel I mean, how different is is it really from you know, the court of King Louis or whatever. There's a you know, the whole nation is supposed to look. I mean, did anybody who served under under a president or had personal contact with

the president. People can feel however they want about this, but if I knew the man, obviously I'd have a particular connection to it. I just think that the expectation, the expectation for a kind of national not just national mourning, but also adulation whenever a politician, which is quite honestly

we're talking about, passes away. It just I'm just saying, I think we should be aware so that it does not carry over into a sense of, you know, we are celebrating our our our what's the you know, our our perman not just a permanent political class, but celebrating nobility. That's that's you know, We're not there with Brush forty one because he's a Republican. But I'm telling you, you wait, until you know, the media has a Democrat president who

passes away. I remember, and this is also the good thing here is you got Bush forty one, a life incredibly well lived and and you know, incredible service. I mean, you know, the guy died of old age. He had done it all, man, I mean, he had done it all. So as much as as much as a funeral can be a celebration of someone's life, I think Bush forty

ones is. But I just noticed that there's this, you know, you know, everybody, it feels a little bit like there's almost a forced reverence around this, which and I mean for those of us who are walking around just going about our day to day lives, you know, every time we open a newspaper and everything else, this is the This is the main, the main focus. And there's a lot of stuff still going on in the world. There are a lot of things happening here, a lot of concerns,

a lot of problems. We're going pretty deep into. Okay, let's let's not have our third twenty four hour news cycle where the main thing we're talking about is the you know, the I don't know, the sort of circumstances and ceremonies surrounding the passing of a former of a former president. I know that maybe maybe I'm off on my own this one. I just, you know, I don't I don't like titles of nobility for people that served. And this is separate from the Bush conversation, but I

don't like titles of nobility. I don't like people that walk around are still called congressman when they're not a congressman. You know that, no, we we should not have that. And also, you know, the passing of George H. W. Bush Is is deeply sad for his family members and for his friends and people who knew him the way it would be. But that's true of anyone who passes away, right, So I don't know that the rest of the country should should be told that we have to feel anyway

about this other than you know, being respectful. And I just it's also I'm somebody who the few funerals, Thank Heavens, I've been to very few. The few funerals I've been to, I'm never you know, I never really know what to say at them, to anybody. And I know, I know this is a common thing. A lot of people feel that way, But at a Bush at this funeral though, at bushy once funeral, I think it'd be pretty easy.

This guy served his country and led a great life and was incredible what he contributed, and you may rest in peace and be with God and the angels. Um. That's my take. But then there's there's Nicole Wallace over

at speaking of the forest reverence. She's talking about how uh you know, the Bush motorcade was actually arriving on Capitol Hill and and at that very moment, here's what Nicole Wallace of MSNBC, so you got you gotta imagine on the screen you have the funeral motorcade arriving on Capitol Hill, and then Nicole Wallace has a following play eleven.

I think what everyone's getting at is that under Donald Trump, the office of the presidency has been debased in a way that is unimaginable for people who served every past president. I think what's lost in this moment is our reverence and our dependence and our and the way we need and rely upon the elegance and the traditions of the presidency and the elegance the elegance of the presidency. Did we did we have the elegance of the presidency during

the Clinton years. Did we have a president who was a model of upstanding and upright behavior for eight years with Clinton? I just did the select the selectivity here of what parts of Trump at his persona we we pick on and what we leave out from from Democrats. I mean, everything feels like a partisan battle these days. Even when describing aspects of the presidency that you think would be nonpartisan, they somehow turn it into a commentary

on Trump. Everything now has to be a commentary on Trump. It's really disturbing. But you know, even Bush's funeral, they're politicizing it. Snippy dot Com, that's right by now you've probably heard talk about at Snippy dot com is a new social media site out there, and thousands of my listeners have already joined Snippy. They're expressing their opinions, they're

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The wrong when you say that the America dropped out of the Paris Agreement. It's the states in the cities. It's local governments that control seventy percent of our emissions. The United States is still in. Yes, we have a machuregunate leader in Washington that is not in, that is out. But remember that America is more than just Washington, no one leader. I wish that it could be the terminator in real life, to be able to travel back on time and to stop all faster fuels when they were discovered.

Be the terminator, go back and say stop driving your cause, stop all your economic progress, stop spewing the field two in the air. That would be the worst action movie ever. What are you doing with all your economic progress? You're ont realized nation. You have to stop it. Schwarzenegger was at a what was this now in the southern Polish

city of Cadavis. I don't know how you say that, where you had thousands of international decision makers holding their holding negotiations at a UN climate conference known as COP twenty four. I've got, oh my gosh, I've got so many thoughts on this. One of them one is the following. These climate change conferences are are really a kind of

internationalist subculture under themselves. All these people get to show up somebody else's is generally footing the bill, right, a lot of different governments and NGOs, And if you will get to show up at these conferences, they all get to feel very important and they get they get to pretend like they're part of saving the world. And I don't mean that in exaggerated, in an exaggerated form. I mean they actually think that they are part of saving

the world. And they will bear no consequences of ault of these They will suffer not at all. And so that's why who wouldn't want to be a part of this. Right, Once you get in, once you get in good with this climate change crowd, you get to go to the conferences, probably fly on some fancy private jets to get there, and you know that what Trump is I'm sorry what Schwarzenegger was saying about Trump. Schwarzenegger was saying that, you know, maybe the president is out, but all the local and

state governments are in. This just goes to show you, I mean, who cares? Who cares? What you know, Vermont thinks about climate change? Who cares? Even in California thinks about climate change other than the residents who live there. I have to who have to deal with the crappy policies that will come out of all of this. But in terms of the difference that it can make to the problems such as such as it is or in my estimation as it isn't they're not even putting a

dent in this. You know, there's just no sense of perspective or context with these climate angel armist you know, I mean, here, here's a way to a good way to describe this. I think, you know, microbiology, I believe in microbiology. Microbiology is real germs are real, viruses, bacteria, all that stuff that's all real. Now, I live in a world surrounded by viruses and bacteria and any and I'm one of them has invaded my nostrils in my

throat right now. And that's why I sound weird and I'm having a little bit of a tough time today speaking because I'm sick. But you know, the reality for me is that I'm not going to sit around and be super worried about possibly, you know, getting some terrible pathogen, because while that could happen, I think it's unlikely enough

that I'm not going to worry about it now. When you look at that most recent climate change report, the worst case scenario, which is very unlikely, is so far off, and I would argue so manageable that to spend any time at all now worrying about it is similar to say, walking around saying, oh my gosh, I need to wear surgical gloves and a mask all the time because there are germs everywhere and if I don't, I'm gonna die.

That it is true that if you don't walk around with surgical mask and gloves constantly, you are at a slightly greater risk of picking up an infection and you could die from that infection. How many of you worry about that? I'm guessing you know, one or two you're right now are like taking off slowly, taking off your gloves and mask. But I'm guessing most of you who are saying, yeah, that's it's not something that a normal person would do. The risk profile just isn't high enough.

It doesn't justify those precautionary measures. Well, what we see now is that with climate change, they say do you believe in climate change? It's like saying do you believe in microbiology? Yeah, I believe that the climate has change. Of course I do. I just don't worry about it. And I don't think it's nearly as big of a problem, if a problem at all, as these other people who

have bought into this idea. And it's an idea that I would note gives a tremendous amount of latitude for the redistribution of wealth via the government, for the redistribution of wealth from the first world the developing world, from you know, America to third world countries and Europe to

third world countries. You know, that's all. There's a lot of other goodies that are thrown into this as well as you know, you get to go to these for some people, you get to go to these climate change conferences. If you're Al Gore, you get to make ridiculous movies that a lot of very credulous people go to see and think are really important. And then they realize that everything he said in the movie was wrong. But oh,

I'm sure he'll make another one. And this is why this revolt by the Yellowjackets the Gila jan in France is I think resonating with so many Americans, and that's why they've backed off. I mean, the big news today was that there, you know, the French government isn't going to put these gas tax in place because the people are so angry about it, and they realize that the French people overall aren't supportive of this, and it's like, yeah, and understand that this is just because it's a tax

on something that people feel and understand and know. And the problem that, you know, from the climate changer's perspective, the problem that they run into is that what they need to do is what they usually do, is make sure that the costs of combatant climate change are hidden, make sure that the downside of these policies is so spread out in the broader economy that individuals can't get to that critical mass of anger that they will be

mobilized and then do something and mobilized to do something about this. That's the mistake they made with this gas tax, because people go to the gas, to go to a gas tang where they're already paying over six dollars and now they're gonna be paying you know, six dollars thirty cents that equivalent, I know it would be in euros. But they say, you know what, this is crazy, what

I'm paying this money for what? You know? I mean, you know, turned down for what they probably ask themselves, although maybe not I don't even know what turned down for what means, but it's fun to say. So they're at the you know, they're at the pump, and they understand that people talk about in this country, you know, the pain at the pump. I mean, how much do you pay? You know, in this we're paying to something

a gallon for gas. Imagine of all of a sudden to Phillip a tank of gas for your car and you had to commute every day because a lot of in these French cities the cities are not too expensive, so people have to come from a pretty far away and I'm so many I am very sympathetic this. I hate commuting, I hate having to travel. Listens to where it just strikes me, as you know, it's a huge waste enough time, and it really costs you, you know,

a piece of your life you never get back. Imagine you're driving an hour and a half each way and you're paying three times as much. You'd be pretty upset too. But once this is the achilles heel of climate change alarmism, is when the policies are no longer theoretical and the pain is made real. That's when all of a sudden you have people that step back and say, hold on a second, how certain are we about these different measurements.

How clear is it really that if we don't take these drastic actions, terrible, awful, horrible things are going to befall this country. Because if the answer is, you know, one in a hundred, I think I'm going to ride this out. I think I'm gonna let the system that we have by and large in the developed world, capitalism,

private property rights, rule of law. I'm going to keep riding with that, which has elevated more people out of poverty in the last hundred years, then we're are lifted out of poverty in all of human history before it. I'm gonna ride out this whole capital thing and not allow the status hysteria of climate change lunacy to take over,

you know. I mean I also just on on a person a personal level, whenever talked to my liberal friends about this, and some of them, really they look at me like they have discovered some zoo animal when I tell them that, because they the ones who know me, know that I somebody who reads a lot of books, and I you know, I enjoy learning new things that I try to be open minded about different ideas and arguments. They for some reason they know I'm rock solid conservative

on all this other stuff. But I think they say, blah blah, raise Catholic and you know, look at his parents, they're conservative or you know they have some but on climate change, they figure, well, you can't really not be a believer in that whole thing. And when I look at them and I say, not on my a not a believer? Why why do you think I don't believe? And when I'm always fascinated to buy is they assume

it's ignorance. And I sit there and say, I've read the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change reports from the UN stretching back for years. I've read I don't even know how many hundreds, maybe not even going into the thousands of different opinion articles, editorials, new stories on climate change.

Why is it that they think that I'm not worried about this because i don't care about the world ending, because I'm so in the pocket of big oil, which has never given me a dollar that you know, this is what It doesn't make any sense, does it. What data realize is they have a religious belief. And this always brings me back to because that's what climate change is,

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acts is long. Georgia, Ukraine, Syria, election, Medai, scir Paul, and now the kirch Strake, to name just a few. In a light of these facts, the United States today declares it has found Russia in material breach of the treaty and we'll suspend our obligations as a remedy effective in sixty days unless Russia returns to full and verifiable compliance.

Drawn a line in the sands here, Secretary of State Pompeio saying that the US within sixty days better see Russia start to do what it says it will do under a treaty called the Intermediate Range Nuclear Forces Treaty

ion F treaty. Pompeio saying, look, you guys are coming too compliance or we're stepping out of this treaty, which means that we can start developing things that we know said we wouldn't, and it means that you know there's going to be consequences for Russian perceptions of its own security.

As a result of this, Russia has developed multiple battalions of SSC eight missiles, according to Pompeo, which falls out, which puts them in violation of this treaty that goes back to the Cold War, and it means that it's these are a direct menace to Europe and this is a way of directly threatening NATO and NATO allies, that our NATO allies in Europe, and you know, this is the undermines trust between US and the Russians such as

it is. I mean, not that we trust the Russians all that much, but you know, there's a very it's a bold statement from Pompeo today. It's a clear statement, and I think everybody knows, unlike with the Obama administration, when this administration, when Secretary is State Pompeo, when President Trump draws a red line, guess what that red line's going to be enforced. There's not going to be some

erasing of it. They're not going to say, oh, just kidding, and you know no, They're going to make sure that the Russians fall into compliance or suffer the consequences. And then it just also brings me to you know what, one of the storylines that's out there that just annoys me to no end, and that is that Trump is soft on Russia. Trump maybe has a certain personal affinity for the character that's in his head of who Putin is. But the Trump administration's policies matter a whole lot more.

And the Trump administration on when it comes to policy is strong on Russia more so than his predecessor was not even close. Really, Obama's whole hot mic moment with Medvedev where you know, I will I'll have more flexibility after my election. You know, Obama was always trying to appease everybody, including Russians. Obama was the appeaser in chief. And now you're always hearing about how Trump is so

in bed with the Russians. Well, here's what Trump's secretary of State says about Russia on the world stage in front of countless members of the international press. Play clip two. Russia has an embraced Western values of freedom and international cooperation. Rather, it has suppressed opposition voices and invaded the sovereign nations

of Georgia and of Ukraine. Moscow is also deployed a military grade nerve age and on foreign soil right here in Europe, in violation the Chemical Weapons Convention to which it is a party. Russia has violated the Intermediate Range Nuclear Forces Treaty for many years. The list goes on, we have to account for the world order of today in order to chart the way forward. Russia has not embraced rest and values, he says, suppress his opposition voices

invade sovereign nation. I mean, he is calling Russia out in clear and in unambiguous terms. And oh, by the way, we've also sent more lethal assistance than the Obama administration did to Ukraine, which is the single biggest military concern right now for the Russian government. We've sent naval trainers, We've sent people to Ukraine to assist in all kinds of military operations and you know, to provide them with the training and the know how so that they can

really fight back effectively against the Russians. Right now, the big problems that the Ukrainians have, and you see this in the kurt Straight crisis, is that the Russians have them completely outmatched when it comes to their air force at navy. I mean, the Russian navy and air force just dwarf what the Ukrainians can put out there. Remember, I mean for the Ukrainians, there's something very bitter sweet

about this whole thing. And I'm sorry, not bittersweet, bitter, no sweetens very bitter about this whole thing because you know, they had at one point a very large nuclear arsenal after the fall of the Soviet Union, and they as part of the agreement that they had with the with the Budapest Memorandum where we agreed the Budapest Memorandum on Security assistants. We agreed along with the UK and yes, Russia, to protect their national integrity, their sovereignty if they gave

up their nuclear weapons. Russia gave up their nukes and guess what, I'm sorry, Ukraine gave up their nukes and guess what now it's being picked apart by the Russians. We are not really holding up our end of the

deal with the Budapest memory of him. Now, I don't think we should go to war with the Russia over Ukraine, honestly, under any circumstances, So start with that, but we certainly can give them assistance and provide them with help to make it harder for Russia to just piece by peace, pull the country apart and consume it, which is really

what the Russian plan is here. So you know, I just get frustrated with this because we keep hearing about how Trump and Putin, Trump and Putin, I mean, this has become an obsessional left and I just I just don't think it's I just don't think it's reflective of reality. I think it's something that liberals like to say. They think they sound smart when they say it. They get a kick out of, you know, pushing this issue in front of you know, in conservative faces all the time.

But when you look at policy and you look at what is really moving the needle, you know, the Trump administration, it's just a more muscular administration in every sense. It's just less willing to be deferential. It's less willing to go along to get along. And that that's what, at least certainly what I think America should be. You know, we should lead you A leadership doesn't mean what's the consensus. I'll do that on the world stage or on any

stage for that matter. This is the very definition of the deep state. The deep state is that the intelligence agencies do things, conclude things, make conclusions, but then the elected officials are prevented from knowing about this. So if we aren't told about this, if I'm not allowed to know about these conclusions, then I can't have oversight. And so then the state grows. The intelligence the deep state

grows and has more and more power. So I've read in the media that the CIA has said with high competence that the Crown Prince was involved with killing Kashogi. I have not seen that intelligence nor I've even seen the conclusions. And today there's yet another briefing and I'm being excluded from that. So really, this is the deep state at work that your representatives don't know what is

going on in the intelligence state. So that was last week Senator round Paul obviously very upset about the fact that he didn't feel like he was getting full access to the intelligence, the information involving because involving Nbas Moham had been almond in the Kashogi murder. And so sure enough, even though we remember we heard from Madison Pompeo last week on this when they saw everything, and I think

it's so funny. I think a lot of journalists don't realize that the Secretary of Defense, if he wants to see something, the CIA shows it to him. There's no there's no oh sorry, sorry, guy who runs the US military, person in charge of the Pentagon. That's too sensitive for you. That that does not exist. That is not a thing. And true also of the Secretary of State. Um but

Madison Pompeo sect deaf and sec state. They had this to say about this just this as a refresher before we get into the latest to day on This is what Maddison and Pompeo said last week. Play for we have no smoking gun that the Crown Prince was involved, not the Intelligent Community or anyone Else's no smoke gun. There is no direct reporting connecting Prince to the Order and murders offer. That's all I can say. No direct

information connecting him to Kashogi's murder. That's what they said. Today. Lindsey Graham comes out of briefing with Gina Haspell, the CIA director, who looks like the world's most unassuming librarian. For those of you who for those of you who don't understand, this is when people say me, look, you were in the CIA. You don't look like you're in

the CIA. I'm like, why, because I don't have, you know, a pocket protector and wander the hallways muttering to myself in a in an ill fitted button up sweater, because that's that's what you generally, that's what you generally get at the CIA. Think mad Professor, not James Bond, and you'll be much closer to the archetype of what of

what a CIA? You know bureaucrat is like anyway. Um, but Lindsey Graham came out of the Haspell briefing today and here's And I knew Lindsay was gonna say this because you know, he's he's really strutting his stuff, you know, letting his feathers kind of flutter or I don't know if that's really a thing. You know what I'm saying, Lindsay Graham, He's walking around with his chest pumped up after his puffed out gosh, I am, My metaphors are

getting mixed. I'm terrible of this today. After yes, he saved the Kavanaugh hearing in parts, so yes, I and I kind of will forever love Lindsay for that. But I think he's pushing this koshogi thing a little bit too far. Play five. I went into the briefing believing it was virtually impossible for an operation like this to be carried out without the Crown Prince's knowledge. I left the briefing with high confidence that my initial assessment of

the situation is correct. Here's my takeaway that Saudi Arabia's a strategic ally and the relationship is worth saving, but not at all costs. We'll do more damage star standing in the world and our national security by ignoring MBS than dealing with him. MBS, the Crown Prince is a wrecking ball. I think he's complicit in the murder of mister Katshogi to the highest level possible. You know, I don't want to overly parse that was from today. I

don't want to overly pars Lindsay's words. But complicit or responsible for you know, complicit means you know, you're you, you bear some responsibility. Did he give the order or not? You know, did he order the cred so to speak, in this case the assassination, And the answer is that better be one hundred percent yes or else. What are we even really talking about? But let's just assume for a second, and you know, I tire of the Koshogi story just because one I know that if it ultimately

doesn't go anywhere. And this falls into that realm of foreign policy where they're all a lot of people in the establishment media and in politics who love to talk about foreign policy because that it's you know, it sounds interesting and they think they sound smart when they're doing it. But it's all pretty irrelevant. I mean, it doesn't nothing's gonna change. They don't have any ideas or solutions or any bold vision for anything. It's just kind of more

the same. But you get the sense that a lot of these senators are excited to share with everybody that now they can name like the main ethnic groups in X, y or Z country, and they want to kind of strut their stuff, you know. Lindsey Graham on the Kashogi situation, what are we really gonna do? We're gonna not deal with the leader of Saudi Arabia. That's not an option

if we're gonna deal with Saudi Arabia, right? I mean, would would we as a as a sovereign nation, would we continue a relationship with a country that said that they would not meet with President Trump, that their their president will no longer take phone calls from Trump, will no longer have any relationship with the President United States.

I think the answer that's I mean, we've never really come up again into that before, but I think the answer is no. And why also should we abandon all US foreign policy interests in Saudi Arabia because of this one incident? Is? What is the acceptable punishment? And how do we get people to stop harping on this issue. I mean, there have been Magnitsky sanctions put in place. The administration has given a statement about this, They've said it's completely unacceptable. What has to be done and I

really mean this. What has to be done for this to no longer be something that we hear about day in and day out. Now, what has to happen for the Libs to stop acting like there's nothing more important for the country to focus on than the murder of Jamalka showed what do we what do we have to do? And I mean that as an open question. I don't know what they think. The answer is, we're going to sanction the leader of Saudi Arabia. We're going to seize

his assets. By the way, he's going to claim that he's innocent, that he's been framed, that this isn't you know, there's really no We have no jurisdiction here, there's no criminal proceeding to speak of. There's nothing that we can do. And he gets no problem. Now, I mean, I know people don't think of this way. He gets no due process.

We're talking about intelligence collection. The reason that intelligence collection is not a part of you know, your standard when you're dealing with US citizens, for example, it's not a part of your of your standard toolkit for law enforcement is that intelligence collection. A lot of it is what

you'd call hearsay in court. A lot of it is you know, third parties that think they heard this thing from this guy and you just want the information or you're making assessments, but it's not all vetted, it's not all clear. And I just also have to take a moment to remind everyone that the same libs who just hammered hammered the intelligence community and the CIA in particular for the intelligence leading up to the Iraq War, and you know, it was one of the biggest blunders in history,

and you know, terrible. The cias blood understands all that. They now believe that that that we can turn to CIA and they'll tell us whether somebody is responsible for giving the order for a murder in a foreign country with one hundred percent certainty. That just seems like a standard that has been changed to fit the needs of the moment. That doesn't seem like it's based in the objective reality. To me, that doesn't seem like it's something that you know, we should all just accept. On its face.

So and I don't think that the Koshogi, the Koshogi murder is enough for America to turn its back on Saudi Arabia. I just I as a country. Sure there are individuals was we've taken action against them, but it's just not enough. And you know, it's a cold, cruel world that we live in. But I remember we we look at this situation from the perspective of not just what's happening right now. We might have to deal with this guy MBS for the next forty years. So a

lot of whining about this, no solutions. That tells you a lot who wants to take a little trip to crazytown with me right now? In this case Seattle and the latest the latest nonsense from an Antifa courtesy of our friend Andy no over at Quillette. We played that audio for you earlier the week. We played yesterday for you. That guy who's eventually saying that you know death is coming for you, and you know people are willing to

die for this cause. Guy's clearly clearly a loon. Now that doesn't mean that he's not a problem, right, Loons can be very very dangerous. It just means I'm not saying that his mentality is representative of all of the hard line left. But I'm not saying it's not either. I mean, you know, he's because because the radicals on the left are increasingly I think, you know, embolden is

the word they always used for Trump and white nationals. Oh, Trump has embolden white national And I'm saying by calling them losers and by being a billionaire who's married to an immigrant from Eastern Europe, what do you mean he's emboldening white nationals. I mean, this is just this is just something that people say because they think it sounds good.

But in the case of the far left, you know, you'll you have important voices in the Democratic Party who will make excuses for these real hardline, hardcore activists slash rioters, And as you know, riots get results, as we saw in France. You know, riots gonna be a very powerful tool.

But this is what I think really shocks people when they dig a little deeper into what it's like out in and some of these West Coast cities like Portland and Seattle and Oakland, where you have official complicity with some of these riots, or at least a kind of apathy slash excuse making for the worst actors on the left. You know, this is why you had Occupy Ice in Portland for a while, where people were harassing an ICE

office there. They gathered outside of it. They have this encampment and you know they could have cleared it, but you know, they don't want to clear it. They could have taken action, but they don't want to. You know, it wouldn't have these protesters who start getting rowdy and violent and breaking laws and the police don't swoop in.

You know, you'll have some you know, the mayor of Portland for example, and another prominent leftists in local politics, depending on the city we're talking about, they'll say, yeah, well, you know, we want to give them. Member in Baltimore wanted to give them space to destroy. That's a perfect example, you know that Black Lives matter whatever that riot, I mean, you can't even really call it a protest. They're burning things down, and they said it was because they wanted

to give those those protesters space to destroy. That was the either the police chief of the mayor of Baltimore, I can't remember which one it was, but Andy who was gathered or rather was around a gathering of a hundred and fifty self describe anti fascist protesters in downtown Seattle, UM and there was a conservative group that says it is a constitutionalist group. There. The anti VA has the has the flag of the Soviet Union flying first of all,

so start with that. I mean, these people are celebrating a a genocidal regime. I don't even think they realize that it's a genocidal regime because they're they're ignorant of history, and they're generally not very smart. But Andy had an exchange with a police officer, a police officer that I thought was really interesting and is indicative of a much more widespread problem. Play fifteen. The boy you're inciting, we're

gonna dix some attinute to move you from Mary. Understand that, how am, because we're ending up in confrontation here, and it becomes this can become a public safety issue for it's difficult for us to advantage the other people potentially getting heart. Okay, okay, Now, if you want to protest, you have the absolutely right expersation. I'm not protestation. You have right to be where you want to beat a cl extent as well. But if we're creating if we're

exciting a potential. Okay, just let me know when you think that I'm doing that in how I can de escalate. Okay. So look, I know the cops here have a tough job. I get it, okay, And they really just want everybody to go home with all their teeth in place and

and all the red I get that too. But I also think that what you see here is is a more commonplace issue on on the left or when when you're dealing with the left, and that is that because they're willing to escalate to violence, it becomes your problem and your rights are truncated. Right. You see this on the college campuses, the presence of a conservative speaker is a safety issue, and that's why conservatives are not allowed on the campus. It's not that it's not that they're

shutting down speech. It's a safety issue, they will say. And actually the Young America's Foundation, I think just one a lawsuit against Berkeley very much related to this, where you know, Berkeley and then these other schools will say, you know, we can't have conservatives come and speak because the security costs are too high, you know, because it's a safety issue. Well I'm sorry, but that doesn't fly.

You're not allowed to eliminate somebody's First Amendment rights because other people, you know, you can't give them a heckler or in this case, a rioter's veto because other people don't want them to be speaking. And that's what this police officer wasn't It was just dancing around the edge of doing here. And he's just there with a camera. He's just just Antifa knows him. They've now and they've

been threatening him, but he gets death threats. I mean, Antifa is aware that he is exposing their idiocy on a regular basis, and so whenever they see him, they get very you know, very aggravated and vengeful and everything else. But for a cop to come up to you and say that they're going to remove you, which you know, sounds a lot like, you know, come with us, or else you're going to get arrested because there's a there's a safety threat here from the people around you who

are going to attack you. I mean, this is almost it's almost like they were going to arrest Andy for his own safety, you know, that was that was the head. Look at extreme circumstances. I guess he could come up with it sounds like something out of a movie. You can come up with a situation though where that's that's

probably the best move in terms of pure safety. But you know, you you we have to be on guard for this because the olynsky I left is willing to raise the temperature and raise the stakes to get the outcome that they want, which is shutting down speech, not allowing people to expose the Left for what it really is.

And if all they have to do is threatened violence, and then they have authorities, law enforcement politicians who say, well, hold on, you know, we can't allow we can't allow there to be this this, you know, this speech that incites the other side so much not that incites against the other side, but that the other side takes as incitement for its own violence against the speaker. Then we

really don't have much of a First Amendment anymore. Then we don't really have the protections that we think we do. So I just would know that you see this happening.

It happens on campuses, that happens to some of these protests where the craziest, loudest, angriest voices are just able to create a disturbance or or create a perception that there's imminent violence, and then that perception alone is enough for the person against whom the violence would be committed to be in some way punished or have his rights or her rights violated. So this is like the Left comes at us with everything they've got. We've got to

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tariff barriers. Okay, and that opens the door for American exporters, all our farmers, all our manufacturers, even our automobile producers that exports to China. If you'll give us open markets, we will claber them. We will sell everything. We are the most competitive economy in the world. We'll knock them dead, and we'll lower the trade deficit while we're doing it. So Larry, if Larry Kudlow saying that there's greener pastures ahead, bluer skies, all that stuff. Trump still knows what he's

doing on tariffs. We just need to see this through. Is he right? How are we handling this situation with China. To answer that question, we've got Gordon Chang with us he's the author of The Coming Collapse of China and a columnist. Gordon, great to have you back. Thank you so much, buck Well. Gordon, what do you make of where we are right now in the wake of the g twenty sit down with Hijin Ping and President Trump? We've got this ninety day window to try and hammer

out some kind of a deal. Has Trump been playing this right so far? I think President Trump has done a great job, at least up until Saturday. On Saturday at the dinner with Sijn Ping at twenty in Argentina, I think you have to score the round for the Chinese for a number of reasons. I know that they've made a lot of promises, but they've made a lot of promises in the past and they haven't been really

very good in keeping them. Also, you know, on a ninety day truth means the Chinese are going to steal more US intellectual property. And I don't know exactly what that number is, but it's going to be in the tens of billions of dollars. Because each year or the Chinese steal hundreds of billions of dollars. So we're giving them like a seventy eighty billion dollar free pass on more USIP. We've heard a lot of what China will do.

It would be nice to think that they actually do it, But at this particular time, I think we just need to be very concerned because Siejin Ping believes in a state dominated economy, believes in closing up China to foreign competitors, and this just does not sound like the sieging thing that we've known for about five and a half six years.

Where are the areas that you think he is willing to, you know, bend are What are the negotiables as you see them on this tariff and trade issue Gordon from the Chinese perspective, and where are we probably just you know, screaming into an empty room trying to get them to change their ways. I think that they will reduce tariffs, but I don't think they'll actually reduce non tariff barriers. And if they reduced some of them, they'll put new

ones up. So that's I think not going to be Well, we'll win a little bit on terms of trade deficit, but not terribly much. But the most important thing buck is not trade deficit, although that is something that we would want. The most important thing is the theft of US intellectual property, and I don't see China slowing that down at all. You know, as we've seen from the NSA report and also from the report from the US

Trade Representative, they've been stealing much more stuff. It ramped up a lot in the middle of twenty seventeen, and I don't see that making those structural changes to so that they would no longer steal our stuff. And in terms of you know, the Chinese economies paying up to this point versus our payman, the Chinese market, I know has gotten gotten hit pretty hard, and obviously people are

a little more concerned about the US market. You know, how do you assess our leverage in dealing with them on this issue? Do you think that the American people are willing to see this through? You know, people a few months ago we're looking at farmers who were suffering a bit because of China's retaliatory tariffs on our retaliatory tariffs,

much delayed tariffs, but farmers in the Midwest. We're saying, well, you know, I want to give Trump the leeway for him to actually try his policy, see his policy through to fruition. Do you think that we I mean, is it possible that we could stick together on this one and actually get to that point, or are you worried that we're going to buckle under the pressure of the economic pain we're going to feel. I think that political will is the big question mark. When you look at

the objective factors, we have overwhelming leverage over China. When you look at trade deficit, you look at the size of economy, you look at trade dependency. All of these factors show that we've got much more pull over the Chinese and may have over us, and it's not even close. Buck The only thing that is unknown, and it's really the most important factor is political will. And you know,

forget the American people for a moment. On Saturday, we saw that the President of the United States, who is passionate about this issue, didn't have the political will to confront the Chinese. What he decided to do was to

go for delay. Now, maybe that's the right decision, but I actually don't think so, because what we're doing right now is, you know, we Americans think, you know, if we give them a concession, which we did by not going through with the scheduled teriff increases from ten to twenty five percent, we think, oh, if we give them a concession, they'll be generous to us and they'll return the gratitude. That's not the way the Chinese think. That's

not the way the Chinese treat other countries. You just got to keep the pressure up until they have no choice but to do the right thing. We don't have the will to do that, and I think we'll eventually get there, because the Chinese will push us too far. But I'm not liking what I'm seeing out of the Trump administration for the last three or four days. And I certainly don't like it when I hear people say, oh, you know, it's different this time, because for an administration

official to say that, I think is just inappropriate. And we're speaking of Gordon Chang, author of The Coming Collapse of China, Gordon, is there a future that's a win win for everybody here? Is that something that's possible? You think? Is there a world in which, at some point down the line, China liberalizes its trade policy, stops cheating in

its trade policy, and therefore gets richer and better. I mean, I feel like at the center of all this free trade thinking is the rising tide that lifts all boats. Is that a possible future for the Chinese as well, or are they going to basically just lose out by not continuing to cheat the way they have Well, Buck, it is possible, especially if the Communist Party is no longer rule in China, if CGM pain is around. He

doesn't believe in win win solutions. He doesn't even believe in the notion of comparative advantage, which is the fundamental concept that underlies the global trading system. So it's extremely unlikely there's a win win solution. As long as Seach and Ping is around, as long as the Communist Party is around, we can get there. But China's got to be a much better China than it's been for the last four decades before we let you go, Gordon, how are we doing with North Korea? Well, we're not doing

too well. Especially we haven't been doing too well since the middle or so of May. Up until May or so, President Trump's policy was extraordinarily effective. But you know, since then, he's let the pressure off. And he's done that because he wants to create this favorable environment so that Kim Jong un can make the right decision. As the President talked about before the Singapore summit, but the North Koreans are not returning the gratitude, They're not returning the gesture.

And so I think President Trump's going to have to go back to that maximum pressure campaign. He may not like to do it, but unless he wants Kim Jong un to make him look a little bit foolish, he's going to have to go back to what made him successful through the middle of May. And if not, Kim Jong un is just going to run over not only the United States but South Korea. We're going to probably

lose our ally there. As Moon Jay in the pro North Korean president takes advantage of this, as the Chinese take advantage of it, as the Russians take advantage of it. President Trump can still win this, but he's got a change course. Gordon Chang, author of The Coming Collapse of China, also go check out his website Gordon Z. Chang dot com. Gordon always great to have you all, my friend. We'll talk to you soon. Thanks. Buck All right, team, we

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so um. Sorry, I'm in the middle of office picking, so I just like I can't act right now. Aside right, No, I understand you've been supportive of impeaching for a while though, So what do you think after the Russia developments? Do you think the Democrats should go in that direction? I would be supportive, and anyone we're seeing here is really serious questions emoluments. I gotta tell you, you wouldn't want Okazio Cortez to be the captain of your team on

trivia night. Just just a little safety tip for me to you. You would not want her to be the one in charge of getting the right answers to the trivia questions. Okay, it would not go Well, she's gone the hallway there. This is what you reporters do. Sometimes they come up and ask it. Look at the people's house, right, you're in Congress they come up there and they try to ask you questions. I've done it before, ask questions the hallway to remembers of Congress. So I understand she's

on the move everything else. But she's like, well, like I just think overall, like when you look at like the broad stroke they took, like how far they would take and how granularly they would dig into that process. O'casio Cortez is so fascinating, I think to conservative you know, the left is already throwing up the usual defenses. Oh, it's because she's a woman. Oh it's because she's a minority. That's why conservatives are so hard on her. No, it's

because she's so symbolic, really or really emblematic. I mean, she's somebody who is, in a sense, the epitome of a progressive millennial. And now you finally have that progressive millennial in a national political light, and what you see is somebody who has picked up all of the buzzwords and the slogans. I mean, she's certainly been around a lot of social justice talk for a long time and has also understood that there are just phrases that you

can say, there are things that you can paret. I mean, just repeat that you have heard that are a way of signaling to your own side that you are one of them. That the very specific word choice, saying things like talking about always democracy and social justice and now these days saying things like undermining institutions whenever you're talking about Trump. You know, there are certain words redistributive. Throw

throwing the term redistributive when you mean Marxists. You know, throw in the term equality when you really mean special rights for or new rights created for. There there's a way of speaking that signals to people that you are of a certain mindset, and Okazio Cortez has that down. But what you see with her is those phrases, those words, there's very little knowledge beneath them, and knowledge does matter. Knowledge matters. You can't, in fact, just go on on style.

There has to be something below that, because without knowledge it's very hard to have wisdom, and without wisdom, it's very difficult to have good judgment. But what you see in the case of Ocasio Cortez is somebody who sounds the part, emotes the way she's supposed to connect, connects the way she's supposed to on the left, but does not have the underlying substance to back it up. And I don't think she's going to get it anytime soon either, and they're just going to continue to prop her up

and back her up. It really reminds me in a way. Look, Obama had a much more impressive academic pedigree, although people always get mad at me and say, you know, the guy was, you know, a student in the eighties or whatever it was in the late seventies that I guess late in the seventies at Occidental College, which is fine, but you know, it's not like this guy was some academic superstar. He somehow got into Columbia as a transfer and then all of a sudden is like at the

top of Harvard Law Review. That's a very unusual rise for someone to make. And there are, I think, very honest questions to ask about how much of that was understanding the system versus real academic superstardom. That all said, he clearly has a more impressive academic pedigree than Occasio Cortez. But Obama was a guy who would get away with saying really flimsy things on a regular basis. You know, I saw today on Twitter. I would give him credit

but I can't remember who did it. I'm just I'm so much of my life has spent reading an online But there you had somebody who was making the case that, you know, dan quail who is actually a very smart guy. Dan Quaile misspelled potato once and was turned into a laugh line, and people said he was stupid. I mean, dan Quayle equals stupid is a complete construct of the media. And I think that's a very good example of how the two sides, or rather how they treat people from

the two sides of the media. You know, O'caozio Cortes can say endless dumb thing after another, just one foolish, ignorant thing, and they'll say it's a gaff. Oh it's adorable, Oh she's a dorcable without the numbers that she got wrong. It's like not that big got dale. But when a Republican says anything that's wrong, they're in an idiot who

can't tie can't tie their shoes. And it's very clear that this is this is the standard that they've been operating under, this double standard, and with Ocazio Cortez, you're going to continue to see this. I also like though that this is somebody who is part of this vanguard of the kind of new age socialism in this country, this new wave, I mean you now have and Obama paved the way for this. You know, we forget how far down the road of progressivism the Obama administration really

took us. But after eight years of Obama, the way was cleared for the next generation of Democrats in elected office to say, you know what, don't you like some of the stuff we did well to complete it. You know, if you want to really savor the flavor and get all the all the best free stuff the government has to offer, you gotta go full socialist. You can't do

this quasi socialist thing. And the truth is that a lot of the Democrats, even more mainstream Democrats, know this and understand that they are playing a role in this transformation of the country. But it's really this Sanders Warren Okazio Cortes wing of the party, even though Okazi Cortez hasn't even been sworn in yet as a as a member of Congress. But it's it's people who fall into that part of the Democrat spectrum. They are the ones. They're the ones who are openly saying you know, we

would like to be socialist. We want this country to be a Democrat socialist country. And you know that designation of Democrats social it doesn't really make all that much difference because it's you know, socialism starts with some very basic concepts and once they're in place, Yes, there there are more extreme versions of it than others. But when the government has essentially complete authority or takes upon itself the right to dispense with property rights, then it can

dispense with individual rights. And then from there things just get really bad, really quickly. Maybe it takes a bit of time, maybe it's not right away, but once we start down that slippery slope, things to get very very dark. Indeed, so Okaz and Cortez, oh, and on impeaching Trump, I just would say that the only thing that would prevent them from impeaching Trump is if they think that it's not in their political interest to do it. And I do not. I do not think the Democrats have enough

self control. I do not believe the Democrat Party has the impulse control to avoid giving into the rapid left wing base and impeaching President Trump. I just think that when push comes to shove, there are going to be too many people wearing pink hats, marching, yelling, screaming, you know, wearing handmaid's tail costumes, saying that Trump is Hitler and

you know kkk Usa and all this crazy stuff. There'll be too many of them, and they will go forward with impeachment, even if it is not in their political interest to do so. I certainly think it's a good thing that President George HW. Bush is receiving the honor that he earned and that he deserves as a veteran, a war hero, a former president, somebody who spent decades in the service of his country and did so with a tremendous amount of decency and kindness by all accounts.

But I also think that over this holiday season, it's important for us all to remember, as we as we get closer to Christmas, that not everyone who deserves a hero's remembrance gets it. In fact, very very few of those who have led exemplary lives, who have sacrificed a tremendous amount in the service of their country, and who are in fact, by every by every definition of the word heroes, very very few of them are celebrated as such. This this really strung me A fellow named Patrick Meade

wrote this online. He is a he's a minister and a guitarist, and this got a lot of attention. Over the weekends, A lot of people shared this. He wrote the following, I had to place my father in dementia care today and drive away. I can only be there every couple of weeks, so I tape this to his door. I want the staff to know who the man in number fourteen, Room fourteen truly is. And he writes this speaking from the perspective of his dad, who is now

in full time care because of his dementia. Quote. My name is Bill Mead. I was born in abject poverty. I became a warrior US Navy Korean War Korean War era. I then laid aside my weapons and became a minister and a missionary. I traveled the world spreading the Gospel of Jesus Christ, bringing hope, medicine, and love to the United States, Europe, South America, and Africa. I am slowly leaving this earth for my heavenly home. This may take a while. Thank you for remembering who I was and

who I am. I am a man, a warrior, a missionary, a father, a friend, and much more so in a way. I think now we can take a moment to step back and say, how would we treat the people in our lives if we assumed that many of them had overcome tremendous challenges, had in their own way served, had in their own way been a soldier, a soldier of Christ,

if not a soldier on the actual battlefield. How would we treat people if we didn't know, but always took the approach that there was something beautiful and great and worthwhile within them. I understand that over the holidays that can feel like we are saturated with all this commercialism, this desire to try to get nice gifts and take

these vacations, and that's pete. Look, people work hard. They deserve to show their love for their family members and friends with gifts to do things that you bring us all together, whether it's a big dinner or vacation or

whatever it may be. But I also think that there's room four reflection on how we all go about our day to day lives and one of the most important things because it's one of the areas where we can always improve, Where self assessment and self improvement are never out of place, and that is how we treat one another.

And I think there's a reason why this man Patrick Mead's message written in the voice of his father for the staff at the facility that's taken care of him in his period of dementia really resonated with people because this man Bill Mead, was a warrior, was a missionary, was a man working in the service of God, and deserves all of the respect and kindness and support that that entails. And a lot of the people in our lives are also, in their own way, warriors for what

is good. We should give them that respect and that support as much as we possibly can. The show ain't over yet, folks. It's time for roll call. All right. It's Tuesday, which gets us halfway to hump Day, so it's like half hump day. That doesn't sound about much fun. Facebook dot Com slash buck Sexton if you want to have your message read on air, If you don't, by the way, just right at the top for you only, or don't read on air that way, it'll just be

to me and the team. All right. We have John who writes all right, man, I had to chime into here about all this best accent talk your best is soros by far. Thank you very much for this touto stuck. Also called a new show on Netflix you'd like. It's called Bodyguard. It's set in the UK and the main character is an anti terrorism intelligence officer. The show has a very realistic deep state twist on things. It also

builds up quick you'll be hooked in ten minutes. So I watched the first episode almost all the way through of that show, John, and I thought the opening sequence with the suicide bomber was very very well done, and then I got really bored as this as the episode went on. So I haven't gotten yet to the interesting deep state component of it yet, but I'm willing to go back and and watch again because you're not the

only person. They've been a number of people who've told me that it's a very very good show, and then I should really give it a shot. Rob Rights, Oh wait, no wait, we got more from John Sorry, also caught a new show and oh no, you know that is the also Okay, so we got that Rob Rights. Mission complete brought a tear to my eye too. Your thoughts on that image of man's best friend make you trustworthy? Will thank you Rob, Rob's referring to George H. W.

Bush's service dog, Sully. It was just a It was just a very powerful, very powerful image, very powerful photo. And perhaps no surprise, but somebody from slate dot com, which is one of these left wing news sites, one of many many left wing sites all for the millennial pajama boy generation, wrote something that was more or less telling us that Sully had only been with the president for six months, to which I had to think, why would anybody take their time to write this? Here? Let

me give you the Sully. This is from Slate. Sully HW Bush is a service dog who had been with the president for six months, not his lifelong companion. This is what an author at Slate decided to write, as if we needed to be told that. And I would just note that the bond between a human being and his or her dog is not a time constrained thing, and anybody who's ever had a dog and had a very close relationship with a dog understands why that image

was so powerful. I just wish the left would stop being such a bunch of foolish haters, but they can't help themselves. Thea rights whoa first Veep then president was John Adams, one of the greatest men that lived and extremely underrated. We would not have had our country with Adam. Yes, you are correct. The last time, before hw Bush, we had a VP who then became the elected then was elected to the presidency, not became president because of an assassination.

Or was the fellow that I mentioned yesterday Martin van Buren. The issue is whether somebody was elected to be president for being a vice president. So there you go. You are correct. John Adams was vice president and then became President of the United States. Judy writes, Titanic, are you kidding? Everyone dies? Save myself the money? I like you anyway, Original Saturday Squad shield side Judy, I'm not saying that I like Titanic. I think it's a sappy, pretty ridiculous

movie all things considered. I'm not somebody who is pro Titanic as a film. I'm just saying we all saw that movie, and people who tell you that they haven't seen Titanic, I just think they're playing a little fast and loose with the truth. I think it's very clear that Titanic is a movie that pretty much everybody who sees movies probably went to at some point in time. Kimberly writes, my favorite story is the Christmas story. It's beautiful on its own. It deserves no distractions. We made

it the meeting of our holiday. And I agree about Santa boom Buck. I got a lot of pushback. However, I felt uncomfortable telling my children Santa was real. As a person of faith, I did not want them to think the Christmas story was another tall tale. I made a choice, and we still have wonderful celebrations. My favorite stories were My oldest son in public said, look, Mom, it's the Christmas Man. Yeah. I don't really understand why. You're also just quick to tell our kids things that

are not true. I don't know why that's something that we're all okay with. With the Santa Claus story, we could just say there's this myth of Santa, and we could just tell it like a story without convincing kids. Oh no, this is a thing that happens. I don't know. I'm not sure that I agree with that approach, but I'm open to my mind being changed on it. I know it's your tradition and people do it, and I sound like a grinch and all that stuff Remember, the

Grinch has a happy ending. The Grinch in the end realizes that Whoville everyone's happy even though their presence have been taken, and the Grinch's heart kind of melts in a good way. Josh Right, Shield's high, Buck, there's no genre more misogynistic than rap music. Gonna have to ban an entire industry. Merry Christmas to you, Ada, miss Molly Well, thank you so much just for writing in. And yes, there's clearly a double standard when it comes to banning

misogyny in artwork and music. Specifically, when it comes to hip hop music, there's a lot of not even casual misogyny, there's a lot of really aggressive misogyny in hip hop music. And we're told that that's just the way that it is, that this is just something that people can accept. And I wish that was. I wish that we had a more clear standard on this one. How about that? Johann Right listening as I write this, and the solution to covering the border would be to deputize the many Americans

who would do it for free. Buck, you have the best voice, including today and pace of delivery, of all the talk show hosts. You are the WFB of our time, William F. Buckley going up in the sixties on Long Island. The movie that meant Christmas to me was Laurel and Hardy in the March of the Wooden Soldiers. Wow, I've actually seen that many times too. That's interesting, Johan, I forgot about that movie. Buck. One thing I disagree with you about is coffee. We have a supermarket here that

always has was one brand on sale. Recently I got the big can at Chalk Full of Nuts for four ninety nine. In the queue. We also have cans of Maxwell House. The thing I am sure many veterans work for those companies too. Know. Something I don't like that is now happening is the inclusion of first responders with the military, including the line thank you for your service.

I was okay with my compensation in both, and I'm no fan of the current adoration, but if we were to have it, the military should be the ones that get it, Johan. So a few things are. First of all, thank you for your kind words about my voice and delivery. And hopefully you didn't like it more yesterday than you normally do, because that means that my cold, you know, my cold, and sinus infection voice is my best radio voice because today I'm still in the misery of all that.

But hey, if you like it, you like it, so I'm just glad you're enjoying the show. But you're very kind and your support means a lot. As to March with the Wooden Soldiers, I've seen that many times too, and I really liked that movie. I remember liking as a kid. I can't remember it that well now. And then as to coffee, like I just I'm friends with the guys who run Black Rifle. It's a great company.

The coffee is really honestly delicious. I mean it's not just because they're a sponsor of the show, as you know, they are a sponsor of the show. Their coffee is phenomenal, and they're great guys and they're doing really, really good things. As to the issue of first responders and veterans, you know,

I can only speak to it from this perspective. I always feel a little I think there's a bit of discomfort that many of us who were civilians who served in the war zones feel when it comes to how we're supposed to present what we did or how especially in my case where I can't even really talk about some of what I did any I can get pretty annoyed sometimes because people say things like, oh, well, you

were just an analyst, you were back at Langley. It's like, well, no, actually I actually traveled with military and was armed and was trained to fight. I mean, I was not somebody who was expected to just sit there at a desk, never go outside the wire or never do anything that said. I was also not a door kick or not a frontline person at all. Most of my time was spent on bases. Keep in mind, you could also die on base if there's an ambush, or if you're not an ambush,

an assault or mortar rounds. I mean, so it's not like it's some picnic being on these bases in the war zones either. But you know, where do we gauge that? And I was think it's interesting, you know, so if somebody was if somebody served in the Coastguard, but I served in a rocket Afghanistan for the CIA, do I do people tell me thank you for your service or not? Did they tell a person who serving the Coastguard thank

you for your service? Somebody? You know, you get into and I think ultimately it's just serving your country, serving your nation, serving your fellow Americans is a good thing no matter what. And I leave the verbiage about this to other people. But yeah, I mean, first responders obviously have a very important role to play in society, and what they do is great. But it's a big difference in being a first responder and being an Army ranger

who served three tours in Afghanistan. Right, there's a big difference between being quite honestly, if we're really going to go there are a big difference in being somebody who served in the Air Force for a few years and never went anywhere outside the United States and somebody who did multiple tours as a marine in Iraq. Right, So you know, and I think that we probably do ourselves a disservice if we try to parse those things out. So it's just best to say thank you for your service.

And those are you say thank you for your service to me. I always appreciate it. It's it's kind of you to say. But I joined the CIA for my own reasons, and I joined the cias I wanted to help US country after nine eleven, And quite honestly, there are many days where I wish I joined the military instead, and I think that that's if I could go back in life and do it over, I probably would do that. But I did what I thought would be the best way for me to serve at the time, and I

had my frustrations with it. But you know, you can see this turns into a complicated discussion pretty quickly, Josh Right. Everyone remembers die Hard as a Christmas movie, but no one remember it, so is lethal Weapon. I honestly couldn't choose a winner over those two. Both were iconic action films for films for their own separate reasons. Your take, die Hard is a Christmas movie, I didn't. I'm sorry, of course, die is a Christmas movie. Lethal Weapon, though,

is a Christmas movie. I didn't know. I'm trying to think back, I haven't. I haven't seen Lethal Weapon a while, and I've seen it so many times that I probably shouldn't watch it again. I think I've maxed out on Lethal Weapon viewings. As to which movie is better, die Hard is a better movie's better plot, better execution, better

bad guys, Gary Abuse. He's pretty good as a psycho and lethal Weapon, but die Hard is arguably the best action movie of all time, all things considered, It's certainly in my top five, up there with Predator and a few other movies. So I think Diehard really almost created its own genre of the smart action thriller. Jeam, that's gonna be it for today. Thank you so much for being here. Please tell somebody about the show. Talk to you tomorrow, Shield Tie. Oh, guess what I'm doing tonight.

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