Mike Opelka Holding His Shield High In The Freedom Hut

There's insanity out there. There is serious topic overload. There's a buffet here of things we could talk about, and we'll try and get to all of it. And I would love to hear from all of you. If you're not familiar with me, Bucks sometimes refers to me as the Godfather, not the godfather there from the Mario Puozzo books or the movies directed by Coppola, but from the old school, So that kind of godfather A little different there,

very different thinking. But if you remember me from the Blaze, Radio, etc. From the Blaze, then you know who I am. I'm still out there at Puropelca dot com, but for tonight. I'm here and I'm back. I'm happy to be with you. We also have some special guests joining us tonight next hour. The One, the Only, Shannon Bream is going to join us. We're gonna pick her brain on her new book, and we're also going to see if she'll give us a tip as to what she's covering on her incredible show

on the Fox News Channel. Buck's been on there a lot lately, I think so much To get to tonight, there's a Jussie Smollett update from a prosecutor in California's going to talk to us. And did you know that Big Brother via China is officially creeping into millions and millions and millions of cars all around the globe. This is a big deal. China has purchased the Volvo car company. Happened a while ago, and in doing so, they have infiltrated one of the better car companies in the world.

And they've also realized that that's a way to get inside all of our lives. And I know Bucks talked about the social credit score in China. Social credit score is how China is controlling its people. If you get caught smoking in public on one of the millions of facial recognition cameras in China. You get whatever ten demerits. I don't know how they record it, but they give you a strike. If you're doing it on a platform on the subway area, it's a bigger offense. If you're speeding,

it's a problem. If you're caught misbehaving in public. They record all of this. And when your social credit score gets to the point where it is below the expected score, just like your own personal financial credit score is in this country, life becomes more difficult. It becomes harder for you to do things. It becomes impossible for you to live as you would want to live. They can prevent you from buying plane tickets if your social credit score

is not high enough. If you're not a good enough member of the party, the Chinese government can prevent you from flying. They can prevent you from buying a ticket on the high speed rail. They can relegate you to buying a ticket on the slow, slower than molasses train system. So China is doing this. Now, that's not going to happen here, is it. We can have a social credit score happening here. We can't have China like impositions into

our personal lives. Well, we'll talk about this because Volvo is now putting into effect some of the social credit score monitoring that China has, and we'll talk to the car coach Lauren Fix a little bit later in the show about that. But I'll just bring it up right now. If you own a car in the European Union and you want to drive over a certain speed, they're going to be able to slow you down. They'll be able

to actually limit the speed. They'll put limits like we have in many of the professionally driven trucks in this country that will prevent you from driving over the speed limit. It won't just send a warning to you. It will control your engine. And this is coming on new cars, of course, so I'm not going to retro fit all the cars. So hang on to that nineteen sixty five Mustang you got. It's going to be worth a lot more than you anticipated. This is happening. And if you

look at the way we are driving now. I use something called ways wa Ze. It's an app on your phone that helps you avoid traffic. It's GPS and driving instructions, and it is crowdsourced information on traffic. Maybe the location of speed traps. I'm just saying, it might warn you about a half a mile before you approach a speed trap, so you might slow down just in case you were going over the limit. But Ways is collecting all this

data and they're going to share it with somebody. And it's getting a little freaky because now when I come out of a store, I get in my car, I instantly get a message that says you're fifteen minutes from home. How did they know? How did they know I was going home? So if you don't think that technology is already here, even in older cars, if you have your device, your smartphone on you, big brothers going to know where you are, how far away you are. They're recording your patterns.

They know I go to the studio every morning, when I go to my other gig at five thirty in the morning, and then no, I tend to leave at eleven o'clock and then I go home after that. So they're already watching us. And the only way to make sure they're not is to disconnect. And I don't know if any of us wants to do that. I don't know if any of us thinks that's something we're even capable of doing anyway your thoughts, you want to join the conversation on this eight four four nine hundred buck

eight four four nine hundred seven eight two five. I know I got I get all concerned about Big Brother. I get very concerned about the fact that a gigantic, growing government could want to take over important parts of our lives. But then again, when I turned sixteen, getting your driver's license and getting the freedom of being able to drive a car was the most important thing you could do. And now today the sixteen year olds don't

seem to be so concerned with it. They're more interested in when they're going to get the latest upgrade on Fortnite or whatever the video game of the day. Is that they believe all the cars are going to drive themselves, and maybe they will, but that's something I still don't want to get rid of. There was nothing more freeing than being able to leave your parents' house, get in a car, even if you had to borrow it from mom and dad, and drive away and drive to some

place that wasn't home, to get freedom. And now I fear that all that's gonna go away, And the same sixteen year olds who don't care about getting a driver's license, being able to drive. This same group of people is who Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats want to give the right to vote too. They want to allow them to pick a president because they're going to pick a president who wants all the freedoms to give us all the

free stuff. It's a little frightening. It is a little frightening, and I've taken myself way out of the direction I wanted to go today because there is so much happening today. I don't know if we talked about this, but John Bolton has warned Russia on the military presence in Venezuela. Last weekend and early this week, there were several planes from Russia that landed in Caracas and delivered tanks, troops,

and military advisors to Venezuela. Now it's not an overwhelming military force that showed up, but let's just say it's a couple hundred Russian soldiers in a few tanks and some military advisors. Now, why would would Venezuela need military advisors? And I don't know, a couple hundred soldiers and some tanks.

They have a military Maybe it's a deal. Maybe it's a deal, and the president said two days ago when he was meeting with the opposition leader that declared president of Venezuela Whela's wife, Guyeto's wife in the White House, he said, Russia's got to get out. And the press said, well, how are they going to get out, sir, and he said, well, everything's on the table. You'll see, you'll see. But then I started thinking, why why why is Russia in Venezuela.

Russians in Venezuela for one reason and one reason only, And we need to pay attention here. Why would Venezuela allow Russian soldiers and military equivalent, just a small little bit of it into the country. Maduro the dictator Maduro would not allow caravans of food into the country, of medicine into the country. Caracas is going back to the Middle Ages as the power outages continue in that wants

great capital city. It's all going the wrong direction. So why why why does Maduro have Russians and tanks and military advisors. They're now his private security team. Why would Russia offer that? Oh, I don't know. Because the gooey dinosaur juice that exists between the Earth's surface and the ground underneath Venezuela. Venezuela has oil reserves beyond anyone's real expectations or knowledge. Venezuela has more oil underground, I believe,

than Saudi Arabia. And Russia loves to have oil because oil equals power. And if we don't do something about what's going on in Venezuela, we're gonna have It's kind of like this proxy war that's going on there. The interesting thing here, and perhaps the President can maybe make something happen here. The interesting thing in all of this is China doesn't like Russia being in Venezuela either, because China, with all its people, needs that oil too. Isn't this

an interesting little three level chess match. We shall see where this goes. Any thoughts on any of this, all of this, none of this, trust me. We've got a lot to get to tonight. Michael Pelka in for my buddy Buck Sexton on the Buck Sexton Show. You can join the conversation eight four to four nine hundred Buck

eight four four nine hundred seven eight two five. Come on back, Michael Pelka in for my friend Buck Sexton, And I'm sitting here a red faced as John and the guys in the studio are saying, you know, you read the phone number wrong, dummy. The dummy was implied. They didn't call me a dummy. But when I said the phone number if you want to reach out to

the show is eight four four nine hundred Buck. And then for the people who don't have the alpha numeric thing down, I said, the number is eight four four nine hundred And I didn't say the right number. The right numbers two eight two five. If you go to your phone and look at your phone alpha numerically, Buck is two eight two five. So I'm looking going, jeez, we didn't get a call. Yeah, you read the wrong number. There, cheesecake. So if you guys want to join the conversation, we

have a lot to talk about tonight. As I mentioned, we're going to get an update and answer some questions on the just Smallett thing in Chicago, which is so embarrassing to me because I am Chicago born. Chicago is my hometown, I lived there, I still visit there regularly, I have family there, and to see this mess in Chicago, I have to tell you, for the first time in my life, I agreed with Ram Emmanuel when he called out what was done. He actually chastised publically the District

Attorney's office and the prosecutors who dropped the case. But we'll pick the brains of California Prosecutor Wendy Patrick, who you may or may not have seen. She's been all over the news, been all over Fox stations, and we'll ask her about the j Smallett story because it's growing and growing. I know it's been quiet for a couple of days, but I think there's so much more behind this now. Last night, the President spoke to a full house with an overflow crowd in Michigan, and it was

a campaign event, no doubt about it. And I thought it was interesting because Dana Perino on the Five had some advice for the president, and I think he should listen to Dana Perino. Miss Barno said that Donald Trump should get out of Washington as much as he can right now, as much as possible, and be with the people who got him elected and the people who he's going to need come twenty twenty, come the next election.

And I agree with that. I think he's so good when he's with people, and he's so spot on and all you heard today there's one clip from last night. That was overplayed and over loan, and I think it's out of the hour. It was an hour and thirty minutes, just over an hour and thirty minutes. The President spoke last night. He used a little teleprompter. Most of it was Donald Trump, and he connected with that audience, says

he does every time he's with his base. But you don't hear the important things, like you didn't hear you didn't hear this really anywhere in mainstream media. You did not hear Donald Trump from his Michigan rally saying this. We believe that children should be taught to love our country, to honor our history, to be proud, to be happy, to love and always to respect our great American flag. Now, aside from that weird pronunciation at the end of it where he says great American flag, I think he does

that to get your attention. That's his speech pattern. But what is wrong with that, That, truly is what should be indoctrinating our children is all about. That's what we should be giving these kids, the understanding of how great America is, what a great opportunity America is. But no, they chose to focus on the other parts of the speech. The President talked about loving God, the President talked about respecting life and not voting for people who are pro infanticide.

But the one moment, the six point seven seconds of the speech last night that the mainstream media has played over and over and CNN could not wait to get in in the morning and play it without bleeping it. You know, you remember the s whole comment that the President made years ago, and CNN all its anchors kept saying, Oh, we're going to be able to say that, right, we

can curse on TV, right? Or how excited they were like a bunch of seven year olds running into their parents' dinner party and saying the word p us out loud so all the adults would laugh. They're so idiotic, it's so maddening. But this is the seven seconds with the appropriate beleieping of what I believe was an ad lib last night. The Democrats have to now decide whether they

will continue defrauding the public with ridiculous books. Yeah. I wonder if that was on the teleprompter like that or did they did they edit it down or put Bravo Sierra instead of whatever else the President said? You know what he said? I know what he said. I don't have a problem with that. My life is not going to end. My world is not going to stop. Because the President used the Bravo Sierra term in front of an audience of his supporters. Oh Heaven forfend, it's like

they've never heard cursing. Get on a subway at three o'clock in New York City when the schools are letting out and the kids are going home and duck away from the f bombs. Try I double dog Daria. It's crazy, people, he really is crazy. And hopefully we'll lend clarity to that. All right, David's down, Hold, we're gonna get to you, David. We're also going to get to our friend, doctor Wendy Patrick just around the corner here, and cover so much

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you on the buck Sexton showing this Friday evening. And what's been an incredible, incredible last week, starting with last Friday and the drop of the Muller report at the Department of Justice handed to the Attorney General, and then Sunday we got the four pages, and then Monday we saw the weekend ratings for or MSNBC and CNN that we're swirling the toilet and going down, down, down, And then Monday happened and we had some craziness, something that

shocked me and maybe just scratch my head and say what And I'm talking about the Chicago story with the dropping of all sixteen charges against Jesse Smollett, the actor from Empire, and the subsequent reaction from so many in the mainstream media and then from the Mayor of Chicago, Ram Emmanuel. I found myself believed or not agreeing with Ram Emmanuel for the first time in my life because

I couldn't believe it. So I called a friend of mine, somebody who is a lawyer, who is a prosecutor, who writes on much of this stuff and also speaks publicly about the law. Her name is Wendy Patrick. Wendy Patrick p dot com is where you find out more about her. You've probably seen her on TV or heard her on radio. She's been on this show with me in the past. And I asked Wendy to stop in with us this evening because I just need to understand this even further.

Wendy Patrick, Welcome back to the Buck Sexton Show. Thanks Mike, it's always a pleasure to join you. Well, I'm happy you're here because you and I talked to off Air a couple of days ago, and you said, this isn't really that unusual, this kind of action by a prosecutor's office, district attorney's office. This isn't really that strange in a sense.

And let me explain, in a sense, it is not enormously unusual to have some kind of a deferred prosecution, to have lower level crimes disposed of other than by way of jury trial. What makes this case unique is the fact that it's Jesse Smollett, and we want to make sure that Lady Justice is lined and that nobody gets a special deal because of who they are. That has been the focus in this case. We have watched

Jussie go from victim to villain to vindication. Now all of a sudden on Monday, a move which apparently took the chief employee the mayor by such surprise that they both came out with that fiery press conference. So we all watched on Monday. Now, will you talk about the gift that keeps on giving? As if we didn't have enough to talk about now we see that the city is doing jussee for the one hundred and thirty grand

that they spent chasing down leads. They say we're false, in an attempt to corroborate his story, which of course they never could at end of all arrows pointed in the other direction. So it's even more interesting now, might because now we have an issue of whether or not he can be prosecuted under a city ordinance, which or prosecuted civilly. Of course, what that means is a lower standard of proof, and we really often say suit civilly because it's at the preponderance of the evidence. But he

is not clear. I suppose that is the message from Chicago, from his fans around the globe, and from the court of public opinion, where, of course you and I know he's already been convicted. Yeah, he's guilty in the court of public opinion, especially if you're a geek like me and you read through the files that the Chicago Police Department released later that evening on Monday. I did too, Mike, I read the same thing you did. We both geeked out on it, no doubt, remarkable stuff. But here are

my other questions, Wenny. I think this is interesting, and it's always good to know that Chicago probably has some recourse here and that in a civil proceeding, not a criminal proceeding. As you said, the standard of guilt is lower with that term preponderance of evidence. It's just got to kind of feel like more than not that he was guilty, and he could get smacked with that. I don't know if Illinois has or Chicago has court costs, because it could get more expensive for Jesse if he

is in fact found guilty on that side. But here's the other question. And you may not know this. That letter that was sent to the production facility, the studio in Chicago where Empire was headquartered, the letter that had the white powder in it turned out to be benign, nothing big. The letter that threatened Jesse Smollett that appeared to be race based and had some homophobic slurs on it as well. If that turns out to have been created by Jesse Smollett and mailed by Jesse Smollett, is

there a federal crime here that could ramp up as well. Yes, And that actually is what's being investigated. And you know that's what the President tweeted about the other day. Is he maybe have the clear state wise, but of course we know the city's going after him under that city ordinance and the FBI is looking into him for mail fraud, for send that false letter to himself, So he is certainly not in the clear, you know. And you and I talked on Monday about he may have been vindicated

quote unquote, but he wasn't exonerated. Remember, even the prosecutor's office said, when asked, do you think he's innocent, they said no. So the FEDS are looking at them to see if they can make something out of that case federally, and they could absolutely if they chose to charge him with the crime there. But here is the issue with

crimes that involved fraud. The penalty is often finds, not handcuffs, and people are so livid, especially those that no others that have actually been legitimate hate crime victims don't worry that they will now be afraid to come forward because they're afraid they won't be believed because of the Jesse

Smollett case. So the ramifications, even if the FEDS do go after them for mail fraud or for you know, however they want to charge sending that false letter, the ramifications and the ripple effect is far larger than simply what's going to happen to criminally. It's what this has done socially, and that is one of the reasons that

this jest isn't going away anytime soon. And I have long predicted that even though Hollywood is very forgiving, this may have long term damage on his marketability, the brand management, the damage control that would be involved in attempting to repair his image. It's never going to happen without a public apology, and that does not appear to be forthcoming. Wow, that's a great analysis there. We're talking to Wendy Patrick.

She's a prosecutor, an attorney, an author. Someday I respect opinion on the law talking about whether or not Jesse Smollett, even though if he gets caught up in something I hate to play that if true thing. But if he ends up being prosecuted for writing a letter that used the postal system, and that's a federal crime, it's not going to involve Jesse being handcuffed and frog marched out

of his home and into a courtroom. And people who are getting all fired up about that that want that just check yourself for a minute, because remember how we laughed at the left and the media who railed against Donald Trump and kept saying I can't wait, I can't wait for him to be handcuffed and let out of the White House, for Jared and Ivanka to be handcuffed. Yeah, it's the same kind of anger. And so while we laughed at them, understand that people are laughing at us.

The law is the law, and we need to let the law be enforced as it's meant to be, which I guess the answer. But you bring up the residual effect this will have on his residuals, I guess is what I'm looking at. It already appears that Empire is coming back for another season, but Inside Money says no Jussie on the show. I wonder how they get rid of his character? Well, yeah, where do they like? How somebody else to play the character they write about? I mean,

it's such an interesting it's such an interesting question. You know, you just feel so bad for this entire process. I mean, there's just so many people that have been victimized by this allegedly false claim. And I mean I say that because I don't know anybody that believes that that actually happened,

only because the investigation was so thorough. As a prosecutor, you know, you and I have talked about this before the amount of time, talent, and resources that were diverted to chase down these leads when they could have been used, you know, more effectively fighting crime in the Chicago's got a terrible crime problem, and in every big city does.

Those hours lost can never be repaid unless Jesse agrees to work over the one hundred and thirty grand, which he won't because that would be an admission of guilt. So that really the balls in the court of the city to see if they're actually going to follow through with that investigation. But the social damage is already done,

and the political damage is already done. What Hollywood is going to do, as you phrased your very insightful question, is I would say anybody's guest, but I think we can probably guess they're not going to re embrace Jesse with open arms. He have to find another position if he wants to continue to work in that town. Wow, it's hard to go from seventy thousand dollars an episode too. We need somebody to carry the coffee into the craft

services table. Oh, that could hurt. He apologizes, Mike. He apologizes if he did this, and he is as he's forgiven. We are a culture of forgiveness. If he apologizes, he's forgiven, he could actually make a comeback. Why do I say that, We've seen other celebrities do it so, but it would have that that's something he might have to strategize with this lawyers, that they decide to go that route. That would be one way to make a comeback, maybe even

keep his character. I don't know. I'm the eternal optimist. I mean forgiveness is extending grace, and that's what we do as human beings. Don't we extend grace, We understand, we forgive. If somebody is contrite, expresses remorse and expresses an apology, well that's the advice I would give him. And that's the ice from Wendy Patrick, or at least an explanation of what Jesse might do. Wendy Patrick, thank

you so much, my friend. Appreciate you being there. Love the clarity, and I love the compassion because without it, we're just animals and we need to we need to latch onto the compassion. So thank you. My friend Amen always loves to mix it up. Thanks Mike, and there she goes. I'm a big fan of Wendy stuff. So if you want to know what she's up to. Wendy Patrick PhD dot com. This is going to be one

to watch. This guy is probably going to be radioactive in Hollywood for a while until he does what Wendy suggested he'd do. I think I have time to grab a quick call before we go to break. Larry is on the phone in Ohio. Larry, Welcome to the Buck Sexton Show. I'm sorry I had to hold nun, but you know, I only get so much time with the prosecutor. I got to get her when I can. Hey, yeah, you got eb a hour. That's right, You're absolutely right, and then most of the attorneys you get that quarter

hour and you've got to maximize it. So Buck was down at the border. Well you're you're welcome, sir. You know I read Buck's Facebook post yesterday about visiting the border and he went to a section of the border that I also visited during twenty fourteen in the summer when we had that big wave come through, and he said that he watched the border guards, the border patrol arrests two people coming in and it turns out they were from Qubating. Yeah, so you have a thought on

the border and the President. Well, yeah, Mike, I heard the last couple of days the President as indicated he may shut down the border between US in Mexico, which I agree with him, but I think it'd be does it should be a complete shut down, not just for illegal immigrants, for air traffic, train traffic, and most of all mail service. There's millions of dollars mailed from US illegal immigrants to their homes in Mexico. You're right, I would.

I would shut it down completely. Take a division of troops from Fort Hood, division of Marines from Camp Pendleton and shut that thing down completely and hit them right in the belly, mainly financially, no banking transactions. Well, that that brings Larry, I'm up against a little bit of a wall here. You bring up a really radical but you know it's not implausible solution. You just have to make sure you're not preventing medicine or vital resources from

getting back and forth. And it's one I'm sure the administration's investigating. We've got more to talk about today, a lot more to talk about it. I found out about Buck's gripe on the robocalls, and we all get them. I've had a bunch but I reached out to the FCC and talked to the big man a cheat pie about it. We'll get to that tonight. You want to call in and join the conversation. Eight four four nine hundred Buck eight four four nine two eight two five

on The Buck Sexton Show. Michael Pelka in for Buck Sexton on this Friday night, and Wow, the time is rocking and flying. I'm excited about that. But there's so much more going on. We were talking briefly about the border just before the break, and there is great concern at the border now, not just because we're currently overwhelmed. Our border patrol is overwhelmed, and they've said it. They've told the President. The Department of Homeland Security is saying, hey,

mister President, we're in deep trouble here. We got big problems, and now there is a caravan approaching us that is the biggest caravan ever. So what are we going to do? What are we going to do, mister President? Maybe the answer is to temporarily close the border. Maybe maybe not. We'll discuss. Michael Pelka on the Buck Sexton Show, coming up next hour. I forgot to tell you, coming up next hour, Buck was griping about all the robocalls he gets on his phone. I get him too, you get

him too. So I reached out to a Jeet Pie at the FCC, yeah, head guy, and he talked to me about it. I'll tell you what he's doing. I'll let him tell you what he's doing. And you've seen Buck on TV with Shannon Bream on Fox. One of my favorite people in the whole wide world is Shannon Bream. While I reached out to Shannon and said, hey, Buck's been on your show. Why did you come on Buck

show with me? So next hour, my friend, my buddy Fox anchor Shannon Bream will join us, and you're welcome to eight four four nine hundred Buck eight four four nine hundred two eight two five The Buck Sexton Show with Michael Pelka sitting in. Come on back, Michael Pelka here for Buck Sexton on this Friday night. Happy to be here, thrilled to be here. My friend Buck taking a day out. He's been working like a dog, he's been everywhere, and he got a little testy, I know,

over the robocalls. I'll play for you, Mike. Conversation with the FCC chief a Jeet Pie because I was getting the same number of calls. It's driving me nuts. And I reached out and said, you've got to be doing something somebody in Washington. Now that we've kind of got control of the FCC, somebody's got to be doing something. So we'll talk with a Jeet Pie shortly, or you'll hear my conversation with him. You can't talk to him, well,

maybe you can. Maybe you're a neighbor anyway, if you want to discuss anything with me on the program tonight eight four four nine hundred buck eight four four nine hundred two eight two five. I just talked with a buddy mine who's listening in Dallas. Happens to be a movie critic and checked in in the break and said, you know, Dumbo. You may not want to bother with Dumbo. And I'm kind of bummed about this because new movie coming out, Tim Burton directing a lot five action version

of Dumbo with computerization. Of course you don't have flying elephants, but you have flying animated elephants that look like real elephants. And Danny de Vito said the whole thing, said you may want to skip this one. And the review that my reviewer friend quoted was from a colleague who said, the best way to understand Dumbo, which is two hours and ten minutes long. How many kids are gonna sit through a two hour and ten minute movie. I feel bad for the parents who bring a bunch of kids

to see a movie which PG. Thirteen, which means it's probably got some little bit action in it. A two hour and ten minute movie. Parents with kids, how many times are they going to have to get up and leave go to the bathroom two hours and ten minutes. That's just insensitive movie studio. You're not being smart for your target audience. But Dumbo, I saw. I saw that the trailer, and I was so excited because I love Tim Burton movies. And now I'm thinking, I can't see this.

I can't say it if you've seen it already, if you went out at lunch and you want to correct this review which says more junk, less trunk, and there apparently are some global things in their global governmental things and environmental stuff, and it's also putting in the opinion, the anti circus opinion. Nobody wants to see animals abused, but we don't want to see it in a Disney classic. My buddy said, if you want to see a circus movie,

go rent the one from a few years ago. I think it had Hugh Jackman and it I didn't see it, but that's out there. Also coming up this hour, bottom of the hour, we're gonna talk with Shannon Bream from Fox News. She has a book coming out, and I am such a fan of Shannon Bream. I love. I have a lot of good friends at Fox and some of them are very powerful and opinionated, and they drive a lot of their work based on opinion. Shannon Bream is one of the pure journalists out there and I

think very respectful. So I'm excited to talk to her this hour and we will get into a discussion with her about a few things. Talk about the President too. I want I want to know what she feels about what he's up to, especially the rally that we saw last night in Michigan. There's a big headline this evening on Drudge that says federal spending the highest in a decade. And that's true. We're spending a lot of money, and that's one of those areas I wish we would get

our all of our politicians to control. We don't have a revenue problem. We're bringing in revenue. Donald Trump's economy is bringing in tax money, corporate tax money, because sales are up even though they hut the corporate tax rate. Guess what. Corporations can get more efficient and they sell more stuff, and we're doing better in bringing in revenue. But the revenue is not the problem. The problem is spending. If you spend more than you make, you're going to

have a problem. So anybody who's got issues with the deficit going up, do you have to look at federal spending and federal spending the highest in a decade. And I think we got to be honest about it. We have to be honest with our politicians. If they're spending too much money, we need them to dial it back. We need them to calm down with the spending. But guess who controls the spending right now? Oh? Gee, I wonder who. I wonder who? Nancy Pelosi. Don't get me started, people,

don't get me started now. I asked a question on Monday when we were talking about things. I asked a question. Following the release of the Muller report to the Department of Justice and to the Attorney General and his four page summary, which basically told us there was no collusion and the good news there there was no American involved in the Russian attempts to mess with our election. No American, which is great news for everybody. And why we're not

cheering that after all that time, I don't know. But you've got Adam Schiff, whose name I really have a hard time saying without turning it into something else. Adam Schiff demanding, Nancy Pelosi demanding, Chuck Schumer demanding, Jerry Nadler demanding that April second. They want that report, little mister. They're demanding that report and all the underlying evidence, and now we're hearing that maybe mid April. We will get

the report. Maybe mid April. I wonder if when you hand over the report you'll also get an apology to the president. We should make that contingent upon the delivery of the report. You want to copy the report. If you called the president a Russian asset, you have to apologize first, and I think an apology is due. I think an apology is definitely due. And the first thing I thought of on Sunday when the report and the summary converged on the media and caused the left side

of the media go apoplectic. I thought six hundred and seventy five days and forty million dollars, six hundred and seventy five days and forty million dollars an untold media time. Billions in media time was spent attacking the president, and he attacked back. There's no harm in tecting yourself. But it reminded me of a song from Rent, that big song of five twenty five hundred whatever minutes. I don't

know the musical. I only know the song because you've heard it a million times, and so a buddy him on and I wrote and produced a little parody song from Rent and wanted to share it with you here. It's called what about Trump? The Apology, because we believe the president deserves an apology for the six hundred seventy five days and forty million dollars that you and I paid for, So let me share it with you right here.

It was a complete and total exoneration. The president is the president of all Americans, and he's focused on doing what is best for our country. The media saying the most horrible things about this president. Where was the apology? Six hundred seventy five days in foy Mildi in the dolls, six hundred seventy five days in mad and bus found

six hundred seventy five days in ponty million dollars. How do you measure mensuras from coming to Brandon to stoke it to bid Rosenstein, Obama, mccaven, Chris the First Steve six hundred seventy five days in Pony Mildi in the dolls? How do you MEASUREE? Measure about? What about? What a five?

The media theology? What about? It's a shame that our country had to go through this, and I never want this country to go through that again, that kind of abusive power, with what appears to be a deep state conspiracy that was forced on us by the mainstream media's left side and by many inside the government. You know, if Saturday Night Live can go after the president and parody the president, I think we should be allowed to go after the mainstream media and parody them. I hope

you appreciated our little effort there. It's not commercially available. It's a parody. It's meant to mock the world and what's going on. And I hope you can find it on Puropelca dot com. It's our musical response to that. But mister President, I'm with you, there's no apology coming. But I think if if somebody would apologize, then when Robert Barr turns over the copies of the report, once you apologize, you get a copy. Once you apologize, you get a copy. I think that's gonna be a very

short line from CNN and MSNBC. I'd love to see Rachel Mattow apologizing and then getting her copy of the report. You get a code that you can see it. With Michael Pelcas sitting in for Buck Sexton on this Friday night, still to come, you're gonna hear what the chairman of the FCC had to say when we asked him about Buck's problem with robo calls and the one the Only. Shannon Bream from Fox News joins us in just a

little bit on The Buck Sexton Show. Michael Pelka here on a Friday night on The Buck Sexton Show, enjoying this audience, Always love this audience. You guys are smart, and you keep me on track, and you bring up topics that we need to delve into a little bit further. Last hour, we talked with Attorney Prosecutor Wendy Patrick, and she gives us an update on the Jesse Smollett story and what could be coming down the pike for Jesse because he's not free, he's not skipping down the road

going yeeha. And he also doesn't have a job. His high paid gig is kind of gone. But there may be more coming for Jesse and one of our friends in Alabama. The name written here on my call screen says Enix. So I want to make sure we're getting the name right. Enich says Jesse needs to be charged with something else. Enix, am I getting your name correctly. It's pronounced enich e in front of Niche. Oh Enoch, Yes, well, welcome Nick. What part of Alabama? Mobile, Alabama, one of

the greatest places in the world. Is Winzel's Oyster Bar still there? Oh? Yes, sir. I have to tell you people, if you are ever near Mobile, Alabama, you have to experience something on the scale of Winzel's Oyster Bar. Giant operation. They had a billboard that drew me in. It said fried, stewed or nude, and you could get oysters just about

any way. I hope it's still great. Oh, it is absolutely Well, that's good and good people in Alabama, Nick, I know that, But do you think Jesse Smollett deserves to be charged with something else? Well, I had a question. I didn't know if the crime of a hate crime was only constituted with violence. Wikipedia says that it's anything targeting a certain group of people that belong in a organization, or if you target a group of people based on their beliefs. So under that premise, it's his hopes was

a hate crime towards conservatives. Yeah, that's a that's an interesting interpretation. It might be a bit of a stretch, a slight reach, but let's look at that. I don't think hate crimes will require violence. You can believe somebody you can do vandalism against someone's property and destroy property, and if you do it with racial intent or that kind of hatred in your heart, that seems to me to be a hate crime. But in the case of

Jesse Smollett, let's consider that maybe. And the one thing that keeps coming up is what this um, what this hoax has done to real vic of hate crimes, What this hoax has done to people who've been victimized because of their sexual orientation or because of their skin color, and how it's going to hurt those folks and their cases for getting justice. And I think that therein lies the real problem with what Jesse Smollett did. He diminished

the actual crimes against real victims by doing this. But what I think this is and now maybe we need a new law here, Enich, maybe we've come up on something. Could there be a self hate crime because it seems to me that Jesse Smollett is a self hater, that he did this whole thing. Well, we know why he did it. He wanted to raise his stature at work and make this turn into his social currency, his popularity, and he wanted to convert that into bigger stardom. It

wasn't enough. He was getting seventy grand a week or whatever. It was somewhere between fifty and one hundred grand a week. So I don't know. I think he's got a big tough road ahead of him because he's now he was given the opportunity to be a star and it wasn't enough for him quickly enough, and he had to try and go in and make something else out of it. So I think he's going to pay for this for a long long time. Were you a fan of the show, Not so much. I don't watch a lot of TV,

to be honest. I'll watch movies. But I have out outside interests. Work, coffees, outdoor too. Yeah, I'm I'm addicted to golf, much to my wife's dismay. But if it's warm enough for me to be out there and playing, even if I'm wearing gloves and a scarf and a big jacket, I'm doing it. And I think everybody should find time to get away from work and or a lot of the politics in the news and broaden your perspective.

You'll meet new people. But Enek, if I were in the neighborhood, i'd meet you at the bar and we'd have a dozen oysters in a beer. But it's going to have to be another night, my friend. Well, if you're do visit Wensles again, try the West Indie Salad. You won't be disappointed the West Indie Salad. So now we've got food recommendations. I love it. Thank you, sir.

You have a great evening. If you want to join the conversation like Enok, you can eight four four nine hundred buck eight four four nine hundred two eight two five still to come, just around the corners. A matter of fact, somebody I call friend and I've only talked to her in person a couple of times, but every time I reach out to her on social media directly, she writes back. And I know that personally, she is

one of the gems in our world. She's a decent person in working in the crazy business we call show. She is a journalist. Her name is Shannon Bream and she's on five Monday through Friday in an anchor role on a show that gets I think needs to get a lot more love. And so we're gonna start with that tonight when we come back. We're going to talk to Shannon. We're gonna talk about her book. We're going to talk about the president. We're talking about what Robert

Barr has told us about and we'll dive. We still have to get to the FCC chair and what he said about Buck's problem with robocalls. I'll play you that answer coming up too on the Buck Sexton Show. Well that's not exactly one hundred percent true. The buck has stopped for today, and I'm here Michael Pelka sitting in for my good friend Buck Sexton on The Buck Sexton Show on this Friday evening. Happy to be here, thrilled to be here, And I have to admit I'm just

a little bulliant at the moment. I have a news crush on our next guest, and she's somebody I appreciate the work she does. But because I've met her personally and I know what kind of person she is, I just like Shannon Bream and you know her from Fox and watching her at night on Fox News Night every single night Monday through Friday. But I get to say, hello, friend, welcome to the Buck Sexton Show. Oh, Mike, you know, the feeling is more than mutual. I am honored to

be with you. Well, you do so much in the world of news that I marvel at because so many times we who work in the talk field or even in the news field get caught up with a lot of the divisiveness and a lot of the lack of congeniality. And I think you can approach any subject with any person on any side and make it civil, and I really respect that. So I've listened you interview people from left and right, and I mean really far left, and everybody seems to leave happy or at least feeling like

they got respected. So thank you for that. Oh, thank you, Mike. You know I feel that, you know, it's sometimes fun to just let them go. When they get heated and they're back and forth, it's kind of entertaining. But Michael is really that people hear both sides or multiple sides if there are, because that's where your viewers learn something and get information, and that's what we're supposed to be about. Yeah. I agree, we're supposed to be. We don't always get there,

but we're supposed to be. Now, before we get into some of the newsy stuff, I have to tell you, I'm going to call the Attorney General's office and I'm going to call Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff and what's his name, Nadler out from Long Island, and we're all going to demand together that Finding the bright Side is released before May fourteenth. We cannot We need full transparency on the book. Why can't we get your new book before May fourteenth? That, as you know, publishers pick a

date and that's the date. There are a few copies building around out there that has flipped through the gates of restriction. So there's a little bit out there, and I'd be happy to send one to you. Oh good, So I can send it and talk to our secrets and everything in it. Yeah, I know, I'll talk about little hints to wet people's appetite. So what is the book Finding the bright Side? The art of chasing what matters? From Shannon Brain? What are we looking at here? You know?

What it really stemmed from. I would write a story occasionally on my Facebook page about my family or something happened. I lost my wedding ring at one point for months, and I told the story on Facebook of how I found it after I had cried my eyes out and it looked everywhere and finally gave up on it. And it was such a fun, emotional, happy time for me when I found it. And I just went and poured out the story on faceboo book, And I mean, that's

really what's kind of the start of this. I had a publisher company a couple of years ago and said, we like your stories, we like how you connect with people, and we'd like you to write a book. And I thought, I don't know how to write a book. I'm not an author. And I said well, how does this work. Do you match me up with somebody? And they said, no, no, we like your voice. It's a little corny, it's really you, and that's what we want you to do, to tell

stories about your life. And I said, well, for me, really, my face is the biggest cornerstone of my whole life and if I can weave that through the book, and it's a big part of it, then I'd love to do it. And they said great. So it's there is definitely some newsy stuff in there, some behind the scenes at the Supreme Court the first time I interviewed the President. I mean, so there are newsy things there, but there are also things I think everybody can relate to, some

really high highs and really low loads. I mean, terrible points in my life and kind of how I leaned on my face and my family, my husband to get through that. And I hope that it'll encourage people who find themselves in a really tough spot or just make them laugh, because I make fun of myself a lot in the book too. Well. I'm still trying to get over the fact that your wedding ring was lost for what two months? You said, no, it was about six months.

Oh my god, can you imagine. I just can't imagine had I lost my wedding ring, how my wife would react and how many times that would come up over the course of six months. Yeah, I mean my husband. I was so scared, and I wrote in the story about how I didn't want to tell him because I was personally so heartbroken that I could do something so stupid, something that was listen, it's not worth a lot of money, but it was worth everything to me. What's sentimental value?

And I was so scared. But when I finally got my courage together up for a couple of weeks stating and I can't find it, I was sobbing my eyes out, and he was like, it's okay, it's a ring. It doesn't represent you know, it's not our actual marriage. It is. Hang on one second, Shannon, we're getting a real weird connection. Can we put you on hold for a second, just

reconnect real quickly. Okay, We're gonna try that. Shannon Bram is telling you these incredible stories about her new book, and I want to get into her show tonight too. So Finding the bright Side is her book, The Art of Chasing What Matters and obviously, when she talks about her wedding ring, it's a big deal, and John and the crew will tell me, I guess when we get her back on the horn. Here it sounds like she was calling from a cave somewhere, and there were all

kinds of static interferences. And I need to pick Shannon's brain on a couple of things here. So a little background on Shannon Bream and Michael Palka. We met on Amtrak. For those of you who know my history from the Blaze and the Blaze dot Com and the Radio, I used to ride the Amtrak a couple times a week and I ended up riding the train with Shannon and back and forth to New York once from DC, and we had a great conversation, and that where it started.

And thankfully she's back with us. I didn't want to miss that story of your husband's reaction to the ring, because it's so powerful. Well, I was so scared to tell him, and I was so mad at myself and just really heartbroken over it. But I finally after a couple of weeks, thought I can't tie this anymore. I'm gonna have to tell him I can't find my ring. And I was crying my eyes out and I said to him and he was just, you know, that was

just a representation of our vows. It's not our actual marriage. It's okay, it's just this thing, and it's all right, we'll get you a new one. And it was such a huge relief to me, and wait off for my shoulders. Now, I was still really sad, and every time I thought about it, I got kind of choked up. But I'd finally sort of made peace with it, like, you know what,

and I even prayed. I said, you know what, Lord, if I've left it in a hotel room somewhere, because I've been traveling a lot with the campaigns and stuff, I said, I called every hotel, I tried everywhere. I said, you know what, if somebody else found it or it ended up in a pawn shop somewhere, I really hope that it will make someone else happy and it'll start a great marriage for them. And so I just kind of had to let it go. And the day that I found it, I just was so overwhelmed and excited.

And I never take it off now because I don't ever want to lose it again. Well that's good, No spoilers. It's probably in the book where you found it, so we'll hold off. We don't want to give that one up. Shannon Bream is on the phone with Shannon on nightly on Fox News Fox News Night and Shannon, you know, I do mornings usually, so I miss you, but I get up and I listen at three o'clock when they replay it, which is yes, it's like a bonus for me.

I get extra Shannon's what's happening tonight on the show? Well, of course we're going to talk about this back and forth about the Bar reports, and you know Democrats had demanded we need the whole thing, nothing redacted by April second, which is next week. Barr, who was very professional and until he became Attorney General, was really well respected by both sides, nonpartisan, that kind of thing. They obviously have a different feeling about him now because he was a

political appointee by the president. He said, today, listen, I'm doing everything I can. There's a lot of material, almost four hundred pages. We've got to vet it for grand jury material and other classified information. But our goal, we're working around the clock, is to get it to you by mid April. Diane Feinstein, a Senator ranking member on Judiciary, said, Okay, that sounds reasonable. Please try to get it to us

by April fifteenth. He's agreed to come up on the Hill and testify in early May, but the House Democrats are saying, no, that's not acceptable to still expected by April second. I mean, he's told them they're not going to get it. So the fight continues. But you know, everybody has their own prediction about this. I don't think the bar would have still mischaracterized what Muller said in his summary. He says, it's just a summary that it's going to turn out. No, he was hiding collusion all along,

and it's actually in the Muller report. But that seems to be what some people on the Hill are hoping for. It's so maddening to me. I can't imagine being in the politics where you go from respected to rejected just because one your political opponents has appointed your political opponent has appointed you. It's just craziness. And well, much of

what happens here, as you know in DC, is craziness. Well, one of your colleagues, Dana Perino, who I appreciate as well, don't know her said, she suggests the president get out of Washington and do what he did last night and be with the people as much as possible right now. And I love that advice. I don't know if he's taken it. I hope he does. And she said, not Mara Lago, you know, go to Michigan, go to Iowa, go to places where you know you need to be

with those people. And I think that's wonderful advice, and I hope he does take it. Any other surprise than any guests tonight, we should be looking out for well, you know what. Interestingly enough, we are all we are featuring the lead actress in the movie Unplanned that's opening this weekend. And I've got a lot of your listeners on your various outlets have heard of this. But it's the story of Abby Johnson, who for years worked in

plan parent Hood. She grew up pretty conservative, but really believed in their mission, which she felt was to help women in crisis and women who needed healthcare. She spent years within the system, became a clinic director, was employee of the Year, and then she saw something an abortion that so changed her mind that she had a radical change to the other side. So this movie comes out, and I think, regardless of how you feel on abortion, you know, she says, there are good people on both sides.

I'm not trying to demonize anybody. But it's interesting that this movie opens this weekend is rated R, which upset a lot of the people who put this movie together because the fact is, in a lot of states, a young woman could go without her parents' permission or assent and go get an abortion, which she couldn't legally go see this movie with a rated art freighting, you know.

So there's that The lead actress also who plays Abby Johnson in the movie, has an incredible backstory of her own, and she is actually from Georgia, a state that has just passed a very restrict abortion bill. Basically after there's a hard beat detective that you can't in many cases have an abortion. So the movie industry is now saying we're going to boycott Georgia. Well, she's from there, and she says, listen, I want to speak up on all these things. I wasn't especially pro life before I took

this movie. It's probably hurt my career in the long run, but I learned a lot about abortion and how this works. And so you know, people want to talk about what's in the movie and whether you should see it, and you know, I think it's an interesting conversation to have, although you know, acknowledging that it's a tough one. It's not something people like to talk about. Yeah, it is a very difficult conversation and yet a very necessary one

in my opinion. Her name is Shannon Bream. She's on Fox Monday through Friday nightly eleven pm, after my bedtime, but I get to hear it again at three am. And the book May fourteenth, unless we get the Attorney General to demand the early release. Finding the bright Side the Art of chasing what matters, My friend, I miss you like a front tooth, but I appreciate everything you do. Great to talk with you, and you know I am

your biggest fans. Thank well, thank you, thank you, God bless There she goes the one on OL Shannon Bream here on the Buck Sexton Show. I thought I thought it was only fair since he's been on her show, that she should be on this show. My name's Michael Pelca. I'm stepping aside for just a couple of minutes. When we get back. If we have time, I'll play the FCC chairman's comments on what Buck can expect to be

done about those pesky robocalls. That's next on The Buck Sexton Show Michael Pelka, And for Buck Sexton tonight on The Buck Sexton Show, Hope you've joined the conversation eight four four nine hundred Buck eight for four nine hundred two eight two five. You know, Buck was grousing, really upset about robocalls and the fact they come through our phones. It was bad enough when we were getting them home, but now they're on our cell phones. So I picked

up the phone. I called the FCC. I got the man in charge at Jake Pie on the phone, and I said, sir, what the heck are we doing about robo calls? Oh? I got This drives me crazy. I give them myself all the time. They typically have the same area code that I've got, and even the next three digits might be the same. Those are called spoofed robocalls.

And the problem is that because of the Internet, this technology to unleash these calls has gotten much much better, and so it almost doesn't even matter where you are in the world. In fact, most of the robocalls we see come from abroad but seem to be local. So the FEC has taken out the stops to attack this problem. I've demanded that the phone companies adopt what is called

call authentication for every single phone call. Essentially, this is a digital fingerprint that would be attached to every call to verify that the call is legitimate. And if a phone call didn't have that fingerprint, then the phone carrier carriers would carry that phone call on their networks. And so I told them we want this implemented this here, and if it's not, the SEC will take regulatory action to ensure that it is. In addition to that, we're

also working very hard on the enforcement side. The largest finds in the SEC's eighty five year history have been imposed under my leadership over the last two years on robocallers who unleashed millions of robocalls on American consumers. And in addition to that, we're working with other agencies, the Federal Trade Commission, and even agencies abroad in places like India to cooperate on law enforcements to make sure that we can track down and go after these call centers.

They're set up for the express purpose of unleashing these robocalls, and it's kind to the point where I get every single day a number of emails from consumers saying, I don't even bother answering the phone anymore because I know that it's more than likely than not a spoofed call, and I'm sick of it. And I I'm sick of it too, And as the chairman, I can tell you that this is the SEC's top consumer protection priority and we're not going to stop. Well you can answer that

phone with confidence. Well, I would love that. I also asked the FCC chairman if the same rules were going to apply to phone calls from campaigns, and he kind of laughed and said, you know, that's where we're going to have a little bit of a problem, because no politician wants to write a law that's going to preclude them from robo calling us during an election year. So more on that, Stay tuned for more on that. Michael

Pelka in for Buck Sexton. We still have another hour, and we got to talk about cars and what they're trying to do to your car to control it. That's just around the corner. Come on back. Well it's not Buck, it's Michael Pelka in for Buck. Buck is out for today. Good for him. He's been working hard down at the border and he's still dealing with the Adjuda over the robo calls. So we just talked to the FCC chair

about that, the commissioner. Hopefully we'll get that set. Hopefully they'll straighten straighten out for us in the near future. I was just reading and I need to get back into the FCC chief's head because he was saying that they've they've charged all these fines, They've hit all these people up with these big fines, but it looks like they're not collecting them. So you can send out all the fines you want, sir, but let's get that money in there. Maybe they'll lean on them a little bit.

By the way, last hour of the show. If you want to join the conversation, happy to get and do just about anything. I want to talk about the electoral College because I'm reading something that makes me a little upset. The phone lines are open. Eight four four nine hundred Buck eight four four nine two eight two five. I live in a state that has more cows than people. I think, Delaware, and we're not exactly a big cattle state.

There's only three counties in the whole state. One of them is deep red, one is deep blue, and that's the highest population, so it always votes out the rest of us, and the other one's kind of purplish. But here in Delaware we have but three electoral votes, and our state has now joined this group of states that pledges to give all of the electoral votes to whichever state gets the or to whichever candidate gets the popular vote.

I just don't understand how people are not standing up and screaming about this, How people aren't saying no. Well, now, Democratic Senator Jeff Merkley introduced a bill to totally eliminate the electoral college. He wants it going, he wants it out, says, got to get rid of it. You're the weren't you the guy that co sponsored the Green New Deal and then voted against it. You're one of the one of the people who couldn't even support your Green New Deal.

Is the same thing going to happen here. We're gonna try and get a hold of Hans von Spakovsky of the Heritage Foundation to talk about the electoral college. I'm a huge fan of the electoral college because what it does is really create fairness among the states in our union. And the Democrats are out there crowing. Elizabeth Warren's out there saying, we must abolish it. We must abolish the electoral college. In that way, every vote will be counted.

It's all about fairness. Yes, And there's a county in California. I think it's Los Angeles County that has more people than ten states. So that one county, if you just visit that county and get that county vote, you can effectively annihilate the votes in ten states. So I'm not

a fan of eliminating the electoral College. I think the founders knew exactly what they were doing, and they were keeping They weren't looking to the future and saying, well, candidates will only go to five states if this happens, Yeah, you make California, New York, Texas, Florida, and Illinois a lot more important. So I'm a big fan of the electoral college, and I'm not going to sit by quietly.

I don't think it can be eliminated so easily. But you know this whole cry for fairness that comes out of the Democrats and the progressives, it's never fair if they're telling you it's in the interest of fairness, then where were they? Where were they for the last couple hundred years. If you didn't think the electoral college was fair, why didn't you raise your hand twenty sixteen and say, we just can't have this electoral college. It's not going

to be fair. Somebody like Donald Trump won't win. You know. The duplicitous nature of the people on the left side of the aisle never ceases to amaze me, never ceases to amaze me. So maybe around the corner we'll get we'll get some word from the Heritage Foundation. I think Hans awigh in on this. He's a great legal mind on stuff like this. Joe Biden said something stupid this week. Oh really, what a shock? Yeah, And he also has

been saying stupid things for years, for decades. In fact, a videotape on Earth when twenty nine year old Biden was on public television showed up, and he's kind of saying dumb things. No shock, Joe Biden has a decades long history of saying dumb things. But this one I have to just share with you because it just makes me laugh. The thing is, I didn't have me any larger contributors, and the only reason, see, I went to the big guys for the money. I was ready to

prostitute myself. And then wait, what Joe Biden was what's of course he's talking about donors, but he puts it an interesting Joe Biden language. And the thing is I didn't have many larger contributors. And the only reason, see, I went to the big guys for the money. I was ready to prostitute myself. And the man and man in which I talked about it, but what happened was they said come back when you're forty, son, and so

I had to go out. Twenty nine year old Joe Biden looks like if you guys know the old TV show Taxi, he looks like Andy Kaffin's character of Latka Graves. They're almost separated at birth. But Biden trying to make himself sound like the young the young Turk. If I can use that expression with Joe Biden, Oh yeah, he's a progressive. Joe Biden trying to make himself sound like the young kid in the Senate, even though he had aspirations for higher off us, which thank god, he's never

gotten to the presidency. He got close, but never got there. He said some things that also turned out to be a little offensive and let him go here, Well, I had to go to a number of small contributors. What I think we all great percenta. You didn't take no for an answer, so more from here you think the example I am an anacronis I'm a twenty nine year old oddball. The only reason I was able to raise the money is I was able to have a national constituency to run for office because I was twenty. No,

I'm like the token black or the token woman. I was a token young person. The token young person. Joe Biden comparing himself to a token black and a token woman very interesting in his comments about Clarence Thomas surface too. And now Joe Biden getting set to announce here in Delaware.

The word on the street, the skinny on the street in Delaware is that Joe Bunden's gonna announce next week because if he announced before April one, he'd have to file his election papers and we'd have to see how much money he raised, and he wouldn't have time to raise money to compete with Bernie or Beto or any of them. And that makes you look weak. That makes you look weak speak in the electoral college. Andrew is in Virginia and calling into the Buck Sexton Show. Andrew

has a question about this. Welcome to the program, Sir, Hey, how's it going. So it's interesting that Delaware is saying saying, we're against the electoral college, so they're trying to nullify it. Seems to me I just heard about this, that it's trying to nullify the electoral college by saying, well, all our electoral votes will go to whoever wins the popular election. Yeah.

The interesting thing is they're shooting themselves in the foot because the electoral college is what gives which is what increases the auto of each state. So as a smaller state, for them to basically try to dissolve the electoral college, they're eventually going to dissolve one of their electoral votes. You're absolutely one correct. Any small state that joins in this movement to invalidate or eliminate the electoral college is

really following party line instruction. And Delaware is very blue. Like I said that, the three counties here, the one that has so many people is pure, deep deep blue. It's the one that gave us. Chris coons, it's it's giving us fits here as conservatives, as small government people, and in this case, Andrew, you're one hundred percent right. That's why most of the states you're seeing who are

moving to eliminate the electoral college are blue states. They are states that say, fairness, we wanted Hillary, and they don't realize that it's such a foolish mission. It's asolutely insane. Now, Andrew, can I ask you a question? Okay, are you in the hospital? I hear that beeping. It sounds like some kind of monitor. I maybe are you okay? Yes? I

am okay, good good. That's a very vague I maybe, but a stude observation that any state wants to jump on this bandwagon of the elimination of the electoral college is really especially if it's a small state, it's eliminating itself. Now, if we look at the popular vote from twenty sixteen, Hillary won by what was it, three million votes. Everybody

says this is massive win. Well, if you take out New York and California, If you eliminate those two states where she had massive popular vote wins, Donald Trump wins the popular vote count. So it was really a great example of why the electoral college is important, because only two states would have swayed that election, and that's not fair to the other forty eight. Andrew, thank you for joining the conversation tonight. Appreciate it once again proving the

buck Sexton audience smart on it. And yeah, I realize how stupid my state is. It really is foolish. Michael Pelka checking out for just a couple of minutes on the buck Sexton Show. Michael Pelka is sitting in for buck Sexton tonight on the buck Sexton Show. Still time to join the conversation eight four to four nine hundred Buck eight four four nine hundred two eight two five talking about the electoral college. Hans von Spakovsky of the

Heritage Foundation on the phone. Talk to him over the break about you know, Hans, could we really have the electoral college and danger? Is it really at risk of being eliminated? Well, I'll tell you I hope not, and

I certainly hope that's not the case. And the reason being that the original reason that the framers of the Constitution decided to use the electoral college rather than a national popular vote, which is what the Democrats were all in liberals were all pushing for is just as true today. The reason for it is as true today as it was then, in fact, probably more so, and the reason

being very simple. They said, look if if if a president is elected by the national popular vote, we're afraid that presidential candidates will just go to the big cities, They'll just go to the urban areas, and they will ignore the rest of the country. They will ignore the more rural areas that the places with smaller populations. And

that's just as true today. You know, under the electoral college system, the small est states, you know, places like Montana and elsewhere with small populations, they still get three electoral college votes no matter how small their population is. And what that means is that a president can win office by basically gathering up those electoral college votes from the rest of the country. You know, what liberals like to refer to as flyover country. And anybody who doubts that,

just look at the last presidential election. You know, Hillary Clint's votes came from the big urban areas, the big cities, you know, New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, the whole rest of the country. Almost all of the counties across the country voted for Donald Trump. Yeah. And if you look at New York State in California and you eliminate just the imbalancing votes between Clinton and Trump and those two states, donald Trump wins the rest of the popular vote. So

forty eight. If you took only the popular vote from forty eight states, it's a Trump whitewash of Hillary Clinton. And it's amazing. But here's my question. We're talking to Heritage Foundations Hans von Spakowski today about the electoral college. There are now twelve states that have said, through various actions, that they will give their electoral votes to whomever or whichever states win the popular vote, or to the candidate that wins the popular vote. That is that legit? Can

they do that? Is it bypassing the intent of the Constitution? Yeah, and it's not legit. The people behind that movement they call the National Popular Vote Plan. They claim that as soon as sufficient number of states, who represent two hundred and seventy electoral College votes that's how much you need to win the presidency. As soon as enough state legislatures have passed at the repent that many votes, then that

plan will go into effect. And in essence, those states have passed bills that say that they won't award their electoral College votes to the candidate against the most votes in their state. They're gonna give it to whoever wins the national popular vote, basically ignoring what the constituents of their state have said and how they voted. But here's

the problem with that. There's a provision in the US Constitution that says that state compacts, in other words, agreements between states, have to be approved by the US Congress. The people behind this bill say, oh no, no, that doesn't apply to this particular national Popular Vote compact. But they're wrong. So what's going to happen is if enough states passed this the states who haven't passed it, at places probably like Texas and elsewhere, they're going to go

to court. It's going to end up for the US Supreme Court, and those states are going to say this compact, of this national Popular Vote plan is illegal, it's unconstitutional because they didn't get the approval of Congress. Okay, so, based on what you've shared with us, it looks like we're not at the two hundred and seventy vote threshold, which this group thinks is enough to make their plan work.

And even if they get to two seventy, this will end up in the courts because the states that don't want themselves to be made insignificant will attempt to stop it, and then it usually ends up all the way at the Supreme Court. And currently, based on the five to four conservative to liberal lean of the Supreme Court, one would assume the Court would side with the Constitution on this and not with a move towards the popular vote. Do you think that's the best breakdown of that. Yeah,

I think that's the best read of the situation. By the way, people should also realize that the framer of the Constitution wanted somebody running for president. They didn't want them winning a national election. They wanted them to basically have to campaign in and win a series of regional elections. And that's the way our system works. Why because again, they thought that would elect somebody to the presidency that had the broadest support of the American people. That's fantastic, terrific.

Hans Hans who loved the work that you guys do at the Heritage Foundation, and we appreciate you taking time to join us here and explain this. I'm comforted now that the electoral College is still safe, at least in my lifetime. It feels I hope so too. Thank you, sir, have a great day. Thank you, And there he goes Hans von Spakovsky from the Heritage Foundation. We get wonky here even on Friday nights. But we're going to talk more about Big Brother controlling your car. Coming up next

on the Buck Sexton Show. Come on back. Michael Pelka holding the line for Buck Sexton, holding the line for America. Bucks got a night off. I'm here to cover the Freedom Hut, as it were, from the constitutionally protected free speech bunker here in the woods of Delaware. Bob's on the line from New York. Bob, you had a comment, we're talking about the electoral College. You want to put

a button on the segment? Yes, I do. I do. Mike. Also, before I get to my point, I just wanted to say that I know you were involved with the Beat of New York w KHU back in the eighties and so many memories. I was growing up in New York at the time, and I used to listen to that radio station so much, and I remember remember the Saturday Night Live the Saturday Night mixed that you had with the Ted Are. Oh yeah, a long time ago. We had a lot of great DJs on there, The Riddler,

we had MC I forget all of the mcs. Yeah, it was a great time in New York to be in the dance world and dance music, and it's still There's still a lot of great people there. Ted was the king of the studio mix man everyone. I was part of the New York record pool. So I became a DJ because of listening to w KTU and to the extent that you had anything to do with the programming. You inspired me to be a DJ when I was

going through college and graduate school. I know I still do it as a hobby, but anyway, I got a chill Bob. I was the assistant program director for a better part of half a decade and KATU, So thank you sir. It was a phenomenal station. It's no longer to beat in New York, but it was definitely back then.

But my point was you mentioned how if you took New York in California out of the popular vote equation, I would actually be even more precise if you took five counties in the entire country out of the popular vote equation, Trump would have won the twenty sixteen election by the popular vote, those five counties being, as you probably know, Manhattan, the Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens, and La County YEP.

And that alone tells you why we need the electoral College so that the whole country can be represented and not just five counties. Bob Student observations and thank you for the flashback to my old life in the wacky world of dance music and morning radio. Appreciate you, sir. Have a great weekend. Quick check in with Lewis and Maryland. Lewis say you are a naval vent, sir. Thank you for your service. Welcome to the show. Thank you sir. What's on your mind, sir? Well, well over two years

ago doing that? What about mactebersh Is Clearenhouse PC. We bought some stuff problem and then I started getting all these robo calls and I called them up and the young lady to answer the phone. I said, did you give my number away? In She says, well what about it? And I said, well, I'm getting all these calls since I signed up with you, and she says, well, you didn't notify us not to and I said, well, you

should have never gave my number up. So in the meantime answered that my wife had a stroke and it affected you were quite a bit. And I got all these calls from Jamaica continuously, and I started, I called a mark, started marking down the numbers that they were calling from, and it was seventy over, seventy yearly, seventy five different numbers. And I stopped writing, so I called Verizing, and Verizing says I asked them, could they stop it?

And they said no, we can block three calls. I said, but I've got these seventy five numbers here, and they said, just hang up. And then I called the Jamaican embassy and I explained to them the way I'm telling you that my wife had a stroke and we're another doctor's career and because I've had the same number for seventy three years, ever since I've been made wow. And they said that we'll see what we can do, but they didn't do anything. And then I'm up against the holding

three million dollars package for me and all of this. Yeah, and Lewis, hang on one second, sir, I'm up against the time crush I will pledge to you, sir, as a tribute to your service to this country and your dedication to your wife, to pressure the FCC chairman about this to hopefully get rid of these robocalls in the meantime, Sir, as the sun of a Navy veteran who served probably in the same area you did. Thank you for your service, sir,

and God bless you. I mentioned earlier, I'm not a fan of big government getting into our lives, and an intrusion is coming into our lives in the automobile world. I kind of figured this out just recently. So I'm filling up my wife's car and I'm noticing the gas prices are creeping up, and I'm thinking, is it the

springtime thing or is it the gas tax thing? And then I read that story about what the European Union's playing on doing with Big Brother in our cars, and I said, I got to talk to my pal, Lauren Fix, the car coach. If you know you know what I'm talking about. Lauren Fix is my go to person on information on cars and what's happening two cars via the government. So if you don't know her, you should. Let's see,

are you here Lauren fix the car coach. I am here, I'm I'm smiling and thanking you very much for the kind words. Well, you are my go to when I need to know, okay, what's the hot new car coming out? Or if I need to know why are cars doing this? You're the person I look to rant with or smile with. But you just get to get into all the great cars. But you also study stuff. So gas prices going up?

Is it because of the change of spring fuels or what? Yeah, this is actually what President Obama is trying to stop. They're doing this ethanol swamp. So basically they'll say, oh, we have a different blend for the winter gas and the summer gas. That was probably a good idea in nineteen sixty, maybe even in nineteen eighty, but here we are in almost twenty twenty. I hate to be saying that, but their guess is so different now. This same fuel they use any time of year, you can use any

time of year. There's no changing the gasoline blends. And they do it because it was regulated a long time ago. And these are the regulations that cost you and I money at the pump. Because while they're switching from as they're calling winter gas to summer gas, which has the same detersions in it, but a slightly different mix. What happens is you're paying more money while they're getting the new fuel in the pipeline. So it doesn't impact diesel

as much as it does gasoline. But it's definitely something that you will see soften up in the next couple weeks. Did you mean you thought President Trump was doing it, not President Obama? Well, no, no, no. The current administration is trying to stop it, but the past administration of Obama did absolutely nothing. And every administration has been well aware of this and they address it randomly, But it's whoever's in charge of this particular regulation should be saying,

why are we doing this? This is costing consumers extra money? Wouldn't it be nice to actually think about us, those that vote people in to lower gasoline prices because it's for the good of the economy. But the problem is it's a strategic move in many cases, so you know, depends who's in office, depends who's running the department. There's a lot of politics involved. That's what I call politics, I guess. Yeah, So I hope that President Trump does

eliminate that. He's looking at removing the EV tax credits. He's looking at stop giving stopping giving money to car manufacturers to make cars more fuel efficient. They make money, it's called profit, and that profit they're supposed to us to go back into research and development, which is deductible. Why are we giving them more money our tax dollars? That doesn't make any sense with you on that. But gas taxes are also being looked at to be raised. Now,

state federal, who's looking to raise the gas taxes? Well, each state already charges a certain amount of taxes and the highest believer or not state is Pennsylvania. Where you're looking, you think it would be like Alaska where it might be lower. So every state has their own tax. That money goes into the state coffers. Now, what about on

a federal level, there's federal tax on top. It's currently eighteen cents, So if you had no state tax on your gasoline per gallon, you still have eighteen percent on the Feds. And that money is supposed to go into a fund. That fund is supposed to take care of roads and bridges on international, interstate anything that goes across countries, across the state. So what's happened is is some I love these Friday night deals. You know, we'll make a

Friday night deal. And now a third of that money is not going into roads and bridges, as we can tell by looking at the potholes and roads and bridges. It goes into the rail stations and the potential for light rail. So it's not even being used for the roads and bridges, even though that's what they're being tax But on top of that, more electric vehicles, better fuel efficient cars, more hybrid type cars, less gasoline being used. So what happens, there's less taxes coming into the fund.

So now they're realizing, how are we going to repair these roads and bridges. Well, some genius and Washington's got a great idea. We're going to raise this is their idea. We're going to raise the taxes, the federal gas tax to forty two cents a gallon. Wait, from what eighteen or something from eighteen to forty two. I'm like, whoa, whoa, wait a minute, who's putting this up? And when you start, of course I had to say this, but it happens to be the Democrats. They think that we need more

money for roads and bridges. And the first thing is, yes, everybody agrees the roads and bridges are horrible into every state, So we need money. Yes, that makes sense. You need money instead of saving money, instead of shrimp on treadmills and all the silly things that they do. You know why cats don't like snow, and they put you know, five hundred thousand dollars into that. They should take this money and leave it in the roads and bridges. So

states should make the choices, not the federal government. So what's happening now is the federal government wants to control it all. The states don't want to give up their money, and so they have to give a portion of that money to the feds anyhow, for any interstate that crosses between two states, so it's intrust states. There's a lot of politics involved, but the bottom line is raising your gas taxes because they don't have enough money coming in

is their thoughts. But you say, well, I'm going to go buy an electric vehicle, makes sense, right, I'm gonna hybrid the heck with them, I'm not going to buy as much gasoling Well, don't worry, they've got you too. Every electric vehicle and hybrid's going to pay an extra hundred dollars a year, and you're also going to pay a buy the mileage tax, so we're gonna pay a road use tax like trucks do exactly. So if you add that up, it's going to be well over forty

two cents a gallon. And if you're thinking I've got an EV and it's a smarter choice, you're still gonna get nailed. So what are they going to do with all this money? Well, you and I know it'll go into one gigantic pot. A lot of it ends up in the general Fund, and it's supposed to be split two thirds for roads and bridges, one third for trains and light rail, and we know what's going to happen.

That doesn't happen. It ends up going to someone getting a private plane, or someone would like to have a golden toilet. And the problem is that this expense for the wrong thing is what infuriates me. If they use the actual money they had, and there's quite a bit of it into the billions, they could fix the road and bridges, but they're not. Okay. So if I'm not angry enough with that, Volvo and the European Union have made an announcement about limiting speed and I'm just furious

about this. Can this come here? What's the deal behind? Yeah, it's already coming here. Volvo is going to start putting speed limits on their vehicles. So think about this. There are speed limits already on big trucks. They don't want them to go so fast. You can only go so fast with a big truck anyhow. I used to drive

a truck for a while haul our race cars. But I will tell you that you can only go so fast because otherwise we could say the tail wags the dog, the trailer starts to sway, and you don't want to be doing that, and it's also very dangerous. So truck drivers that are professional drivers, without a question, they know, you know there's a certain limit. Well, they have limitters on their trucks and they're already being tracked and so

now by whoever owns their truck. Now they want to do that same type of thing to cars, and they're doing it in China and in Europe as of twenty twenty two. So every vehicle produced by twenty twenty two will have a limitter on it, so that means you can't go over the speed limit, not even one mile an hour. With the speed limit, it will not let you because it's going to be based on GPS information. So if the speed limit is now fifty, you're doing fifty,

which means zero road hazard. Everyone around you who might be doing fifty five. If you're slowing down traffic, someone might pass you. You still won't be able to go faster. And they're also going to put into that anyone that's in a crosswalk, if that thinks something's in a crosswalk, it will actually stop the vehicle because it's going to

make the assumption that's a human where it could be anything. Wow, and no coincidence that Volvo was bought by China, and China wants all of those cars to be electric vehicles now reporting back to them so they can add their speeding or whatever to their social credit score. Oh I got one more thing for you to go with Gelie who owns Volvo, and I do love their cars, but I have to say the owner of Geelie is the

president of China's brother no Gee whom. Yeah. Yeah, well everyone's related if you're making any money out there in the world of China. So yeah, but think about this they're reporting on the back. Now, you know a lot about these social credit scores, and you and I have both ranted about them, and if they're starting to do that here, you know, so go ahead if you want to tell them with social credit scores are I know you've been researching. Oh, we've We've talked about it at nauseam.

The social credit scores well known to this audience, but it still makes me angry. And now on a Friday evening, I'm doubly angry. Thank you, Lauren Fixed the car Coach. Where do we find you online? You can find me at car Coach Reports dot com. Follow me on all forms of social media at Lauren Fix. And I just posted my for minute Friday so you can watch me rant about social credit scores. Cool, thank you, my friend.

All right, thank you? And there she goes Lauren Fixed the Car Coach with information that infuriates me to the point where I need to take a break. Michael Pelka here wrapping up the Buck Sexton Show. Will be right back Michael Pelca in for Buck Sexton tonight. Before we get out of here, I was listening to AOC the other night. Alexandra Kazy Cortez and she said something and made my ears prick up. One year ago, I was

waitressing in a taco shop in downtown Manhattan. I just got health insurance for the first time a month ago. So did you or did you not violate the law that demanded you have health insurance? I want to know was she breaking the law before her her job in Congress gave her healthcare. Somebody in the media should ask that I've got time for a real quick phone called jonas in Austin, Texas. And I always worry about people

in Austin, especially if they're conservatives, because they're surrounded. John, you got about thirty seconds. Can you bring your message home that quickly? Yeah? I think we need to bring the family back. I think that's what do we need to focus on if we do tax reform where stay at home parents who take care of children get the same deduction as when you do when you go through a daycare. I agree this country. I think you're right

and you can't go wrong with focusing on the family. John, God bless you and yours and thank you for listening to this show. We appreciate you. Have a great weekend, sir. I can't believe I can't believe we're already up against it, and I barely got any time. I didn't get to tell you about the gig. If you want to you want to make sixty five grand for four months, you have to eat vegan food around the world. There's trade

offs to everything. People, I didn't get to tell you about the funniest vanity plates the California has rejected you. Did you know there were two hundred words for poop in different languages and California has to look out for all of them. Have a great weekend and as always, test stude on my friends, test pseudom