McCabe Meltdown

Free at eight four four nine hundred Buck. That's eight four four nine hundred to eight to five the future of talk radio buck Sexton. The Trump administration has been accused I heard over the weekend of being vindictive and mean spirited, and that seems horribly unfair. I think it was horrible day for democracy. This attack on McCabe really reminds me of something from a movie. It seems sort of tragic and unfair on the surface. So it does

look vindictive. Should we not take it that way? It feels vindictive just because it was the timing of it which leads one to believe that this is authoritarian behavior or the making of one. Welcome to the Buck section Show. Everybody. Oh Man media was in a meltdown over the weekend about that, weren't they? They're just also upset about McCabe getting fired. There's so much to say here, folks. We're

gonna have some fun with this one. We're gonna really air this one out, you know, so you can take a moment, take a deep breath, stretch out, because we're gonna lean into this. Oh my, here, let's let's start with this. Trump didn't fire McCabe. Does that seem to matter to anybody here? Did do any of these folks who were saying that, you know, oh my gosh, our institutions are all gonna just collapse? The President United States did not fire McCabe. In fact, President United States had

no direct involvement whatsoever in the firing of McCabe. McCabe got fired because of an inspector General report from within the FBID. Now that's very significant, folks, That really matters, because I can tell you this, a federal bureaucracy is going to protect its own until it can't, you know, until they decide you have to be voted off the island. They're usually gonna treat you like one of their own, and they're gonna protect you at the senior levels Oh no, no,

don't get me wrong. Let's not get this twisted. If you're some average Joe Schmoe one of these places, they may they may decide to feed your career into the wood chipper, so to speak. They may decide that you're you're done because it will send a message to the rest. But at the McCabe level, been there for decades, close with everybody, close with Comey. This was Comey's deputy, this was Comey's right hand man, Mr. Six ft nine, sanctimony himself,

James Comey. He of tweeting out Placid Lake scenes while writing anti Trump screeds fame. Uh, this is what we see here that the Inspector General was the one that decided that McCabe has be fired. Now, I don't want to go too far down the road of what McCabe did was so terrible. He leaked this inform, He leaked information and lined about it. That's all we know right now.

I'm thinking that if we were to see, if we were to see what was contained in the report in total, we would we would then understand how does the FBI would get rid of one of its own in this way? But oh my gosh, the media were in a tizzy over the weekend based on this. He got fired late Friday night. You'll you'll call I told you here on the show. I thought he was gonna fire. We were on firing Watch. I even said on Outnumbered on Friday, I thought he was gonna get fired, and he did. So,

you know, always bet on Buck. That's what I like to say, Always bet on Buck. But you know, it doesn't really change all that much here until we get more information, you know, And do I think that this was the right thing. Sure, it makes sense to me. Oh oh, one more thing before we bust out the world's smallest violin for Andy McCabe. Here, let's understand a few things. He's somebody who no doubt jammed up, which is the law enforcement term of art for blanking somebody

over jammed up. Uh, tons of people, for lying to probably him as an FBI agent in his day, as well as lots of other FBI folks, and for just that. That's really one of the one of the favorite charges of the federal government is lying to the federal government. They love to get you on that one. I'm not even saying lying under oath in a court proceeding. I'm

just saying, lying to a federal agent. Love that one, and it's actually something I think should be revisited in the context of if you didn't actually do anything wrong but lied about something unimportant, should you really should you get the Flynn treatment? Oh yeah, that's right. Flynn had to sell his house to pay his legal bills. General Flynn, he served decades in the military. Does anyone anyone crying for him in the media. No, all, they think that's

totally fair. They are exposing themselves. We are seeing how deep the deep state really goes. I would note that some polls came out of the weekend. I think actually CNN might even published one of them about how most people believe there is a deep state. So so we can have academics, right, Snyde pieces about how the deep state in Turkey is a very specific Yet we got an American deep state here, folks, And we already know who some of the compos of this crime family are. Camy, Brannon. Ah,

we'll get to Brandon in a second. Don't think he's gonna escape this one. McCabe call me Brennan McCabe, Sally Yates, we're just getting started. There's a whole squad of folks that are click clapper, Oh gosh, be here all day. You know, struck you can get some of the lower level ones to bruce or there was a clear anti Trump effort at the top level of d J. It's being more exposed with all these revelations. But I just on the plane the smallest violent for McCabe ever. Understand,

he's sent people to prison. We're lying him many times. He's not getting sent to prison. Other people lie and lose their freedom. He's just getting his pension delayed, which brings me to the oh, pull over the we ambulance retiring at fifty full bench and benefits. That's a good deal. That is a good deal. He's not losing his entire

pension everyone. That's not true. He might have to wait now, he might not qualify under the current civil service rules until he's I don't know, uh, sixty two or sixty you know, like normal person retirement age. He might have to do that. Oh no, but you're already seeing a lot of Democrats come out and say that they are willing to hire him. That's how clearly political this is. Right from the beginning. That's how obvious it is that this is just my team, their team. McCabe is anti Trump.

Therefore he is embraced by the left. So the Democrats, what do I tell you? Time and again here on the show. The left takes care of its own. The Democrats make sure that anyone who does bad deeds for them has good things come with it. That sends a very important message, right you, some of you are a Game of Thrones fans. I'm sure you know. Lanisters always pay their debts. The left always takes care of its own. You get book deals, you get media contracts, You get

you know, chancellorships at universities, board seats on companies. James Comey, who is going to write the most sanctimonious giant pile of Tyrannosaurus Pooh? I think imaginable is now the number one selling author on Amazon in pre sales. Why because everyone assumes that he's gonna, you know, slam Trump. There's gonna be more of what we already know. But getting getting really excited for you know, the the early comy years reas a hall monitors like do you have a

pass attention for you? Sanctimonious people don't change. They if they're if they're that annoying, now, trust me, they're annoying in high school too. And I think Comy is he? Is he a New Yorker? I forget is he? I forget where he's Far's in New York or Philly? I don't know. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna I'm putting him on your doorstep. Quinn, he's a Philly producer. Mike is looking at me all a k A. Quinn. He's a Philly guy if I ever saw one. I'm thinking there's some

filling with Comy. And I'm just trying to make him not a New York ais. I'm gonna feel bad about it anyway. So you get this, You get this, uh sense that something terrible has happened because McCay has been fired. Big deal. He's gonna get speaking, big deal, gonna get a big book deal. And what oh he's call me. He's a Catholic school boy from New York like me.

I thought, so, oh, dude, some of the worst, some of the best, but some of the worst are from my same my same general you know, pumpkin Patch, so to speak. Right, we're the same me and Comey and uh you know, you know who else Fitzgerald, the special prosecutor in the Valerie Plame case. Whatever, he not only

went to my high school, went to my college. I think he's he's also he's also a New York Catholic schoolboy, and he's a super hall monitor and a and a head hunter at the d o J. Who else falls in that, But we got some of the best to Scalia actually went to my rival high school here in New York City, Xavier. We all like to say he didn't get into regions, but then people blew us, so we try not to say that too much publicly. Um,

but may he rest in peace. One of the great minds, one of the great legal minds of of all time. Uh So, comey McCabe. We've seen so much of it exposed, but it gets worse, it gets worse. It's not just at the d o J, in the FBI, where they were clear senior officials appointees of the Obama administration, no less President Obama in some cases very close to these individuals who are obviously anti Trump and took actions against the Trump campaign. There's some other folks too who have

exposed themselves on social media recently. We will get in to that, including a former director of my own agency. I'm throwing my my own, my pedigree, so to speak, getting thrown to the bus. We got Catholic school guys from New York City like comey being sanctimonious. Then we got Brennan, former CIA director, who went on a do we say tirade or tirade? Do we go both? People? I feel like people go both the tirade? Right, I say tirade, Some people say tarade, I think, or maybe

it's a sharade. I don't know, sharade, sharade, tomato tomato. What did Brennan say? And what does it tell us about this whole Russia collusion fiasco? And oh, by the way, Vladimir Puttin on one reelection, we got that, We got a lot more. We're gonna talk about China's theft of intellectual property from the US. Here's what he's there. You go, thank you perfectly. Time dropped. We got China talking about that.

We're also gonna get into some discussion of trade and how all this trade war tours or you know, speaking on home monitors some of my conservative buddies on this or throwing a fit. Uh, it doesn't add up, folks, you look at the numbers, it's not that big a deal, no matter how you slice it. It's literally not that big a deal aluminum steel. I'll give you the details

in the numbers. When somebody says it's just gonna start a trade war and be like, yeah, this is a tempest in a teapot, not what people are pretending it is. We will also talk a bit about this Cambridge Analytica situation. Um, I can't give you too much of a preview next running the next break, but just all of a sudden, now Facebook and Data are coming under all this scrutiny when well, let's just say that this is this is very very much a partisan narrative that is emerging about

all this. Keep in mind that it wasn't long ago that the Obama administration was all about minding everything they could online. Obama's digital team was the best in the business. They're so amazing, the the digital whiz kids that he's got and all that stuff. Now it's like, oh my gosh, they're looking at social media profile and information and making political determinations about it. Good heavens, yeah, of course they are. This is this is a surprise there should be a

surprise to no one. But because Trump did it, you know it must be bad. That's the idea. Because Trump's team did it, Now it's evil. Now all of a sudden, the incredible surveillance machine that is the Internet is scary. Wasn't scary for eight years of Obama, who, by the way, I actually did spy on journalists and do all kinds of super shady bad stuff. But you know, it wasn't

a problem that now it's a problem. It's almost like journalists were all at sleepaway camp for eight years and now they've now they've come back and they actually want to do their jobs. In fact, that's exactly what it's like. Um, all right, we're gonna head a quick break eight four eight to five eight four f buck, we have much more show. Stay with You don't get to decide when

to tell the truth and when not to. I'm gonna withhold judgment until Horowitz's report comes out because I don't say what he found, just say, Harowitz is the inspector general. Let's wait and see what he found. Let's wait and see what that lack of candor was, and then we could judge the fact pattern and the proportionality of the penalty of his losing his pension. We can judge all that once we understand exactly what he's alleged to a vain but but make no mistake, the FBI is who

recommended that he be fired. It wasn't crazy House Republicans, and it wasn't a Trump administration. It was his own fellow bureau agents. The facts with regard to McCabe are very important. They basically have said that McCabe leaked classified documents. That's illegal, but then he also lied about leaking classified documents, and so you know the fbire sticklers on this, and they don't tolerate lying from their agents. And so if all that's true, I see no way that he could

continue in his office, and that punishment is appropriate. Does anyone have an argument against what was said there by Trey Gaudy and then Rand Paul. You know, I think those are two of them, two of the Republicans that you can count on to to call bs when they see it either way. You know, I think that Rampaul is an honest and ethical guy. I don't think he's always right, but I think he's honest and ethical. I don't think that he is too clouded with partisanship to

see things for what they are. Um and I feel the same way about Very Gaudy, although I don't know. I think because Gouty's not run anymore, I start to feel like he's he's lost his edge, or maybe I'm just seeing it more. It seems to me like he's a little too like, well, you know, i'd like the New York Times right, nice things about me. Sometimes it's very dangerous for Republicans. They write nice things about you for a day and then they trash you, and your

own people think you're a sellout. You don't want to go down that path. But I mentioned before we went into the break that it's not just d Oh, It's not just McCabe and Comy and all these other senior FBI folks who are a problem. There's a lot more when you look at this, including John Brennan, close confidante of President Obama's and the former director of the Central

Intelligence Agents. And keep in mind, folks, that being the director of the CIA, it's not like rising to be the CEO of a company where like the best person gets the job or somebody with a proven track record. A lot of the time. These jobs, I'm just gonna say it, go to somebody who the president likes and wants. That person in the role was Leon Panetta, some intel genius.

No Obama liked him. He had some background. They put him in these places, right, I mean any number And there have been some really Panetta was actually okay as directors go. I'm from what I'm told from people who were there, and no, uh, there have been some really crap, lousy CIA directors over the years. But Brennan was o Amas Aids the director, and he was known to be very chummy with the press and reputed to want to

get certain narratives out there into the media. And he tweeted out in response to the McCabe firing the following. This is a quote from the former CI director of the obaministration. By the way, the same CI director who was very much pushing the Russia collusion narrative with the Trump campaign in full swing during the election. You know, Brennan was one who was waiving the flags and screaming about, oh look at all the Russia. You know, he was

the one, right, or one of a few. Now we find out what he thinks of Trump and oh gosh, you're not going to be surprised by this at all, are you? Folks? Quote when the full this is in response to President Trump directly on Twitter, this is blue check warfare, blue check to blue check. When the full extent of your venality, moral turpitude, and political corruption becomes no own, you will take your rightful place as a disgrace demagogue in the dustbin of history. You may scapegoat

Andy McCabe, but you will not destroy America. America will triumph over you. I ask you, my friends, at all honesty. Does that not seem like a slightly unhinged thing for a former CI director to write about the current commander in chief? You will not destroy America. America will triumph over you. So we only have a few options here. Are the former CI director in Obama's buddy is losing it or he thinks that Trump is a clear in

present danger of the United States. And if that were the case, what would the former CI director have been willing to do against Trump? While still director? He's holding the line for America. Buck Sexton is tex laugh. I don't know. I mean, at this point, it does feel as if you know it's one you talked to one set of people and they think the wheels are coming off this administration, and you talked to another set and

it's exactly the presidency that they wanted. So but the fact of the matter is, I don't know if our institutions can handle what Trump is doing. We can't seem to see if our institutions are going to survive the emotional spasms of Twitter. The great line, what does that say about our institutions? By the way, if if Trump's Twitter account can bring them tumbling down, they're not very durable,

are they. Now that's also crazy because Trump's Twitter is not going to bring anything telling down, which is when when you look at what's being said some of the narratives that have gained traction on the left, you know that these anti Trump stories, they're almost like bedtime stories now the Democrats tell each other so they can sleep at night. They're just nonsensical. They don't add up their

self contradictory. Did you get Chuck Todd there saying, you know, I just don't know if our institutions can just I don't know if they can survive. Well, if an institution like the FBI is going to survive the Inspector General has to be able to look for misconduct and when it finds it has to be able to punish it. Right, So this is this is not the least bit surprising from that respect. So I just look at this and I say to myself, what are they even talking about

with this? It was an institution operating exactly as it should that fired Andrew McCabe from his job at the FBI. I would notice that what rand Paul said. I'm not sure if that has been verified or not yet. I think that he was my impression from what I've read, and I'm admitting that I haven't read the IG report. Nobody is talking about this has read the IG report yet. Um, but we don't know if it was classified information or not. That he it was classified information, then he has to

be fired. And also then there's the issue of why why doesn't he have criminal charges? But if we're just talking about even uh internal information given to the press that he then lied about that, why would he not get fired for that? It just doesn't it again, it doesn't add up, but it does not make sense. But they are completely as you know, in the tank and devoted to doing everything they can to make the president look bad, up to including embarrassing themselves. They will be embarrassed.

They will be embarrassed if and when we ever find out exactly what the allegations were in that Inspector General report. That much I can tell you because they just see, Oh someone was fired who was working against Trump. It must be Trump's fault. That's not true. That's not the way that this works. Are We got a bunch of calls, so let's take some of them before we move on. I want to get into some calls before we switch topics. We'll start with Dean in Boston. What's up, Dean doing good?

Track by Elizabeth Warren and Ed Markey, So I'll be quick. So this is funny. I'm listening to our own Seth Moulton from Massachusetts who says that he would hire this guy for three days so he can reach his pension. And I stiled, thinking, who retires att with a full pension? And why would someone who has that higher level job decide all of a sudden, you know what I need to put in from my retirement, and I need to get out, and this is the earliest date that I

can get out. I don't know what the did he just put that in and said I gotta get out of gain. Well, it might have been his planning all along, because let me think about if you can get your full retirement at fifty, right, wuldn't you do? What did you take it? I don't know if this was the plan all along. He obviously went early because he was gonna run out, you know, he was trying to run out the clock and and had come under a lot of scrutiny. The thing is, people ask me like, oh, Buck,

do you know what I mean? I was in the c I A. I obviously wasn't a career officer who spent twenty years there because then I would have had to start when I was like five. So I don't. I don't know how the vesting process works and all that. What I can tell you, uh, is that one it is very hard to get fired from these places. You have to do something usually illegal. That's what I always

tell everybody. If you show up on time, if you are where you are supposed to be for your job in the federal government, when you're supposed to be there, and you don't actively break the law, it's still and but you refuse to do any work of any kind. It still takes a long time to fire you. So that's the way the civil service procedures work. And I know that for some of these gigs. Look, some people

have great deals. I could sit here and talk to you about, like UH fireman's pensions in UH California, for example, and some of the major cities California. They are lucrative. They ever, that's the deal, that's what they saw it up for. But they've got great deals. The FBI think has a pretty good deal. I would note that I've read this today and we haven't checked on this, so Mike got a fact check me on this one, Producer, Mike,

if I'm if I'm off. I read today that Anthony Weener, who is currently serving I believe a federal prison sentence. He's in prison now right. Anthony Weiner, who is a convicted sex offender, will get a million what is the equivalent of a million dollars worth of benefits for his pension as a former member of Congress, despite being a convicted felon sex offender. So there are some places where you get great It's a great gig, Dean, if you can get it in terms of the pension. Yeah, worth

one point two millions, worth one point to million. Do we lose Dean or it is Dean just in awe of all the knowledge bombs, I'm dropping you there, Oh, there you go. Sorry, now I've done it. What do I say to the American public that a House of Representatives member who were thinking math has kind of hidden agenda to try and get his name out for the

presidency sometime in the near future. But what does it say that they step up after the Federal Bureau of Investigation kind of internal affairs department and an inspector general, a completely separate agency, decide that this person should be terminated, and he then steps up and says, you know what, I'll hire him from three days so he can get his pension, right exactly? What what are we supposed to

think of our trusted institutions then? And this is this is like the equivalent of saying, well, the FBI's processes don't matter anymore. What matters is getting Trump and what manages supporting people who tried to get Trump. That's what they're saying. Yeah, yeah, alright, Dean shields him and thank you very much for the call. Dean isn't a stute fellow. Charlie in Ocean City, Maryland. Hey, Charlie, Hey Buck, I'm glad you call and shields high brother. How do you sir? Hey?

I was just listening earlier to day on some talk shows and they pointed out there's a report out that McCabe is actually net worst about eleven mill And I'm trying to think I was just a simple bricklayer. If he made a hundred thousand a year in twenty years, that's only two mills. How do you get eleven? Well, his wife is a doctor, right, uh huh, So, I mean she might be making I don't know, I don't know what. I don't know what doctors in Virginia. She

was a primary care physician. I believe she could probably make a half million dollars a year. Yeah, So I mean the man, okay, his pench is what fifty six thousand a year. If you're asking me, how are they gonna have a networthy of eleven million, Charlie, the answer is, I I don't know, um, but it's worth looking into. But you know, they could have family, you know, she could have family money. There's a lot of ways that

people can have money that don't necessarily you know. I but I see this with who is the guy um senator from Arizona who was the majority Harry Reid. How is it that Harry Reid was what could afford living in an in an apartment in the Ritz Carlton, which is like the most expensive place in all of d C. That was where he lived when he was in d C. Where in Harry Reagan that kind of cash? I don't know. Look at their friend Nancy, I mean she well she

married a rich guy. Yeah, that's the old fashioned way marry somebody a lot of money. That's a good way to do it. Charlie Shields simment, thank you for calling in. I'll look a little more into whether or not McCabe. You know, but that's there's always the option of your family money. Uh maybe maybe Dr McCabe writes novels under a pen name and it's done very well. You know. There's all kinds of ways that people make money you woun't know about, but it's it's worth looking, worth looking

to do. I would say this, I'm guessing FBI has financial disclosures and so they probably know a whole lot about how McCabe did or did not make money. Um, so I'm not seeing that is a big issue, but I'll keep an eye on it. I'll make that promise to you. I want to switch gears because Cambridge Analytica is getting a lot of attention. Facebook lost billions of dollars in value today. It was down about five scent

something like that. In trading. I don't pay that close attention to the markets, but Facebook had a very bad day. Everyone's freaking out about this thing, and to me, well a few things. One is that they're freaking out because it involves Trump, so that always automatically, when Trump's arrangement

syndrome kicks in, everything is oh my gosh. Uh. But they're acting like it's a huge surprise that people will use the data they can glean from social media and uh use that for the purposes of constructing political messaging and memes and campaigns and everything else. Social media makes. The reason these places are are so lucrative, and the reason they offer you a service for free is to aggregate your data to then capitalize off of that data. That that is what social media does. That is how

Facebook is essentially a giant printing press. Of money, They take the information about you, they take your activities, and then they tailor advertising to you. And Facebook, by the way, has clamped down hard on just you know, the way that they are doing things these days. And it's their way or the highway. As I've been saying for a long time, we are in these progressive left wing mega platforms and there's been no choice for a lot of folks. You know. People now are well, I'm gonna I'm gonna

go in a whole rand here about something else. Cambridge Analytica involved at the Trump campaign. People are freaking out why. I'll answer the question after the break. Cambridge Analytic UH was birthed out of a company called scl Group, which

is a military contractor based in London. It UH this this data was used to create profiling algorithms that would allow us to explore mental vulnerabilities of people UM and then map out wigs to UH inject information into different different streams or channels of content online so that people started to see things all over the place that that

may or may not have been true. This is a company that that really took fake news to to the next level by powering it with algorithms So that's Christopher Wiley, who helped found the data firm Cambridge Analytica. It's getting so much news media attention right now and people are talking about how it has well. He said that it has an arsenal of weapons in a culture war as I understand it. Here's what's happened. You have different companies that are always trying to find ways to aggregate the

stuff that we're all doing online all the times. These social media platforms, my friends, are like intel collectors on you. Every click, every look, every like, all the stuff we're doing all the time. We just think it goes into some you know, vast cloud and who cares? And sure

that's somewhat true. Although I've been saying for a while, just wait until one of these social media companies decides to release the you know, private chat that some guy had on Facebook with his mistress twenty years ago when he's running for president, Because that's gonna happen. Guaranteed that's gonna happen, just a question of when. And people say, oh, well, you know, they're private company, they can do whatever they want.

What are you gonna do? They violated their terms of service and they can say they changed their terms of service the private company. Unless Congress passes laws to protect people from the exploitation of their private information on these social on these third party platforms, then that's the way. That's the way it's gonna be. But so, here's what

happened with Camera gen Analytical. They are a group that's looking at all this different social media data and they're trying to find ways to create the most well to understand the psyche of the masses really and then they exploit that information. They exploit exploit that information advantage for

the purposes of politics. In this case, it seems that they may have hired a company Cambridge Analytica, and their ties to the Mercers and Benning and this is all, oh my gosh, you know there you mind, you know, the the Obama team back in twelve and uh two thousand and eight, they were doing stuff that people thought, oh my gosh, you know, they're look at how great their digital team is looking at all this Facebook information and data, and everyone's crunching all these numbers all the time.

The problem that, well, there's a few things going on here with the Camera Generalytic. One of them is they may have hired another company to be kind of a front that would have you take a personality quiz and then you answer all these questions about yourself. And I think it might have also given you might have also given that app uh access to your data, your friend lists, your likes, all that stuff. And this is standard. A lot of these apps say you know, can I have

access to? And it lists all the different things. This is the brave new world we live in now. And if you say yes, then guess what that means that that service has access to sure enough all that stuff, which is why a lot of these things that we think are free are free for us. But they do come at a cost. And the cost is your information and your privacy. And that information is now out there.

And if you think it's protected, just start reading about some of the major cyber breaches that have happened, and including places like the government and and others that their whole reason for existing is to prevent cyber breaches. Right there. They're doing a lot of work, a lot of effort to try and make sure that does not happen, and they get breached. So don't think that all Facebook has it. It It must be safe. But they you heard that guy wildy when we started the segment here saying that

they're like weaponizing people's ideas, exploding psychological vulnerabilities. Another way of saying it is, yeah, they're figuring out what's on people's minds, what's popular, and then they're constructing narratives and stories, and maybe that includes fake news, maybe it doesn't. Probably does that will get the most clicks and shares and everything else. By the way, every media entity I know is doing this in one way or another. This is the game now, folks. This is what is going on.

It's only being treated as so nefarious now because it involves Trump and some of the Trump or Trump's associates, people like Bannon and Mercer, who is bankrolling Trump. She's the daughter of the billionaire Robert Mercer. And this is going on in all kinds of ways. I have seen this coming for a while. I've been trying to sound the alarm as much as possible that the Internet in particularly with the advent of the social media platforms and

their dominance in our discourse. I mean, I know people now who are like, well, you know, I'm just gonna build my business. I'm just gonna sell directly over Facebook and I'm like, Okay, you can do that for a while. But guess what happens when Facebook realizes that your company is deriving a vast majority of its revenue from them? Do you do you think that they can know that and then decide that they're gonna use the leverage they have over you to demand even higher rates and more.

You know, we're giving so much power to these things. Facebook is the biggest example, but you know, Twitter, um, Instagram, Snapchat, which I've always thought was kind of garbage, um, but these are collecting information on millions and millions of people

and they're using that. Make no mistake about it. They are using the information they get from your day to day activities, every like, every click, every digital thought that you leave online, and that may not be used against you personally, but it will be used by these companies to get an information advantage. And in the massive digital propaganda wars that are going on right now, social media

platforms are the front line. Um more on camera. Ge Atletic a for you tomorrow, promise he's holding the line for America. Buck sex in his back. This neighborhood is still being locked down right now for safety. Again, we're doing this in over abundance of caution so that we can keep this neighborhood safe. What we process the scene. What I can tell you is based on the preliminary

review we have done at this time. We have seen similarities in the device that exploded here last night and the other three devices that have exploded in Austin starting on March two. Again, this is preliminary information, but we have seen similarities. The big difference in this device again is we believe that a trip wire was used in

this device. Welcome to our to of the Buck Sexton Show, Tough News out of Austin, Texas, where you have a fourth a fourth bomb exploding this time, as you heard from the Austin Police Chief, there as a result of a trip wire, so a more sophisticated device. And now the narrative from law enforcement down in Austin when we're hearing it has shifted away from what was initially it

seemed like some perhaps even hate crime based attacks. So now they just have a madman, a serial bomber on the loose, and they have very little to work with. From what we've been told so far, you've got four bombings. There have been fatalities, there have also been some people wounded as a result of it, and they're looking for

help right now down in Austin. They're looking for someone to come forward from the public, because the analysis of an actual bomb after it's gone off is a painstaking process. It's not something that happens very quickly. You need to find the pieces of it, that shrapnel has to be analyzed. You're looking for any signature that you can find on any of this, looking for d n A, looking for

the components. Using devices, can you reverse engineer the device in such a way it might give you clues about how someone put it together and where they got that information. Maybe if you might get lucky and have some unique component to it that is traceable, right, that's um, that is what I believe. That's actually how the Oklahoma City bombing of the of the Federal building there by Timothy McVeigh. I think they found a VIN number among the UH in the debris and that was the big break in

that case. You see, sometimes when you're looking for a bomber, they make it much easier. I remember during the Fisal Shazad case in two ten, the would be Times Square bomber. He left the car that he tried to blow up, make into a vehicle board and provides explosive device. He left the car in times square, so you trace the car and then you're able to trace the able to find a whole bunch of information on they're able to trace the phone that he had used. He had a

I believe he had a burner phone. He had a pay as he goes cell phone. Um. And then he got to the airport and almost got back to Pakistan. They had to catch him on the plane at the airport. He almost got out of the country, but he did leave clues. He left information that law enforcem could work with, including me. I remember being called in that weekend after the bomb almost went off. Um, he did not. He was not a skilled bomb maker. Otherwise you would have

had a high casualty count that day. But this time around with Austin, it doesn't look like police have have much to go on so far. UM. Here's the Austin

Police Chief on on where the investigation stands. There has already been a significant presence from our federal partners since these events began, and as we reported yesterday, we have over five hundred agents and their teams working on Austin cases alone, and we have additional resources being brought in again by both of those agencies, And as has already been broadcast, there is a hundred thousand dollar reward out there for someone who can give us a tip leading

to the identification of the suspect or suspects in this incident. So they're looking to law enforcems looking to get lucky. Here someone will come forward and say, you know what I've I've got something for you. Or maybe it's someone who just wants the hundred k who was trying to keep silent before mind their own business, so to speak, and now they're gonna step forward, and who knows, we'll have to see. You have five agents working on this case.

In the Austin area. Four bombings as I As I mentioned, and the addition of a trigger device to this one means that this is now something that could have I could have gone off and killed anyone, children, anybody. I mean, it doesn't seem like it is. Target of the first three bombings were package bombs that were opened by individuals. They were left on there I believe, left on their porches, and they were left in what was a predominantly minority

area of Austin. So there was also initially put out there by I don't know if it was the media or and law enforcement or just the media, but the notion this might have been a hate crime. Now it's looking like there's a greater randomness to all of this. The most recent bombing, I believe two people injured, neither of them killed. But the most recent bombing was a uh more well off part of the city and was triggered by a trip wire. So that's just anybody in

the area. People are asking the question about is this terrorism or not. That's a discussion that I've gotten involved in at the national media level and a whole bunch of cases in the past. There's just not enough to go on right now. We just don't know um and anything put out there right now about motive feels like speculation. You know, this, this could be uh this could be

domestic terrorism. Absolutely. It also just could be a completely sick and deranged individual who wants to send bombs or or plant bombs and kill people just because you know, we we don't know. So I don't have much on the analytics side to give you on why I think this person maybe this person is doing this. As to how they find him, this is where you hope that all these different ages. You've got a t F down there, FBI, Austin City Police, I'm sure you get state police. I'm

sure Texas Marshals are all the men. Everyone's FBI. Ever, everyone's in on this one as they should be, um because this is now a city under siege in a sense. You've got people that are concerned about and and rightfully so concerned about just walking around the streets. Right these are essentially I e. D. S going off in Austin, and they have no real leads that we know of, and there's no sense that they're gonna be able to catch this person anytime imminently unless they get some sort

of a break. Now we're hoping that maybe, uh, they'll be able to reverse kind of the surveillance footage from different cameras, maybe street cameras or um in different buildings nearby. You know, this is where they try to piece together whatever they can to just get that one break in the case, because right now it is bleak. It's terrible. I've read the stories of a young man who was killed, you know, opening this. He's with his mother, and mother

was severely injured. They brought this package into their into their kitchen, and just this is it's so the whole thing is so evil and so senseless. So I really hope that they managed to track down whoever is responsible and hold them to account and prosecute them the fullest extent of the law. I'm assuming this was to me

on right on his face, this is a death penalty case. Um, just based on what's going on already, and we'll have to see if there's some kind of a manifesto, possible political motivation behind this, you know, war against the government. I mentioned Timothy with baby before. Someone who's you know, who knows, could be any idea, you know, could be any terrorist or extremist ideology. We just don't know right now.

We don't have much to go on. So if we have anything that breaks during the show, I will bring it to you. We're watching the case very close, Lee, and our thoughts and prayers are with those in the city of Austin tonight. We're we're thinking about you also, um, you know, stay safe down there, and let's let law enforce and do their work and hope they come up with some solutions. Quickly, we'll hit a quick break. We'll be right back. Trump and trade and of course China, China.

Trump talking about what he is going to do with tariffs. But I've been trying to look at this from as many perspectives as we possibly can here in the Freedom Hup. We have somebody who is an actual expert on trade will join us now here were the peace it's up on the hill. How much does trade impact Americans? Not all that much. We have Derek Scissors on the line. He is an international coonymous at the American Enterprise Institute. Derek,

thank you so much. I'm glad to be here. So I really like your piece because you're saying, look, the people that are saying that this is a huge deal, and if Trump does this thing he says you're gonna do, the economy is gonna come tumbling down. It's a little bit of chicken little going on. Yeah, It's the basic story here on trade is if you have very strong, paid trade policies for a long period of time, that can matter even to a really big country like the

United States. But our economy, if you use gross domestic products, is eighteen trillion dollars. Every steal on aluminum product. We import everyone, no exceptions, all countries billion um. You do the math. It's just not a big deal. It's hard for trade to matter to the U. S can have to matter the US over time. Sure can really big sanctions against China matter. Sure the steel tariffs are not

gonna matter. What do you say to people who say, oh, but Derek, if maybe it's only about fifty billions at forty eight billions for stealing aluminium, but there will be all of these reprisals and retaliation. Well, I mean the rest of the world's We have the biggest coconomy in the world, but the rest of the world's economy is

bigger than ours. If we're importing forty eight billion dollars from everybody and everybody's economy put together as bigger than ours, why do they care so much about the forty eight billion dollars? There could be retaliation. I agree that the retaliation will probably be worth about forty billion dollars um. So this is not I think the way to attack the stealing aluminum terraces. What are we trying to accomplish?

And and that's where I would push the President of the administration, like what are we trying to accomplish here? Tell me exactly where you're going with this. But the idea that what we did is really going to hurt us or them or both of us, and then they're gonna do this, They're gonna have this huge retaliation. Why would they have huge retaliation against what really is a

small trade step by the United States. They're gonna talk a lot about it because they want to look like they're they're being tough for their own people, just like President Trump does. But again, their retaliation is going to be small, just like our and was small. And in terms of what China is doing, that is uh that that would go in the category of unfair. Just for everybody listening, Well, what does China do from a trade perspective that gives them an advantage over rivals? That would

rufflesome feathers in the Trans Pacific partnership side of the aisle? Right, the people that believe that if we all just got together and did more trading, everything would be great, Well, we do two things, one of which the administration is looking into and we may hear what they're gonna do about it as soon as this week, and the other one, which I'll talk about a second, but the first one that the aministrat is looking into is they they steal

or or try to push companies into transferring technology or intellectual property. And basically the problem there is American firms are the most innovative in the world. Not in every field, but overall, we have the most innovative companies, We have the most innovative workers, we have the most innovative people. Well, if we innovate on the Chinese say hey, thanks for the innovation, we're just gonna steal it, or we're gonna push your companies saying you can't do any business in

China unless turn over this technology. Um. They we don't get the benefits from that that we should are are Our companies can't sell as many goods because the Chinese are competing with them, which means fewer jobs for American workers. So that's what the administration is looking at right now. It's it's China taking the thing that we do best

and trying to steal the advantages of it. Um. The other thing that they do is they heavily subsidize their their Some of their firms stayed on enterprises in China and those firms don't export because even heavily subsidized, they're not competitive. But it basically means that Chinese market is closed to a lot of American goods because Chinese standard enterprises never lose. You can't outcompete them, you can't drive them into bankruptcy because you have better products, you're a

better company, you're better workers, doesn't matter. They don't lose. So that's the block on the Chinese market that they don't let their stated on enterprises lose, and then if that weren't enough, they go out and they take American and other countries innovation. Now, the issue of technology is actually something I'm going to address later from a national security perspective. But when the president and everyone we're speaking to Derek Scissors from the American Enterprise Institute, he's an

international economist. When the President says that we're getting killed on trade, China is doing all this bad stuff on trade. Uh, he's speaking in very general terms. But what is he really trying to get at? Yeah, I mean that's that's a good question. During the campaign and and sometimes as president of President President Trump has really emphasized cutting into the bilateral trade deficit. So if you can if you

include goods and services. The US has about a three billion dollar bilateral trade deficit with China last year, and President Trump just you know, that really bothers him, and he'd like that to come down to, you know, a hundred billion dollars. He knows he's not going to go away, but he wants an improvement. He wants it to stop rising and start dropping. But does he have a point? Is that a problem because people tell us it's not a problem. I don't think that's the problem. This is

the way I would put in. The US and China have really big economies. You know, you put them together in terms of gross domestic products GDP, it's thirty trillion dollars. If the Chinese were good trade partners. If you had asked me a question, you said, you know, what do the Chinese do that that upsets people who you know, have a very positive view of the world, um like our tv P partners. And I said, I I don't know, and none of my friends know. And we've been working

at this for years and they're great trade partners. I wouldn't care about the trade deficits. What bothers me is what they do the trade deficit is an outcome. So you know, three forty million do sounds like a lot of money. But if China was a great trade partner that was open to American products, that didn't steal American technology, I would say, I know that that's just the way

it is. The story I think the President is getting at is they have that trade surplus because they're not good trade partners, um and and you know what I want is to change their practices. I think the President would just be happy if the trade deficit fell for you know, for whatever reason, the Chinese just buy a bunch of US soybeans, um. So there's a little bit of a split there. I don't think the trade deficit is a problem. I think what China does is the problem.

I think the President really just wants the trade deficit to shrink. And on the issue of UH steel specifically, are we going to be able to see some improvement in you know, US industry and steel output. But I would assume then if it's only fifty billion dollars or importing, there are limitations on how much of an impact this will have in the economy apart from the national security

aspect of it. Right, and so yeah, I mean, if if you apply tear after everyone, you didn't grant any exceptions, you and you've got all steel allans, the limited paris only ten percent. You're not gonna stop importing forty eight billion dollars, which is the total last year. It's gonna drop. It's gonna drop to like thirty five billion because those products got more expensive. So we're talking about thirteen billion dollars more production in the United States. That's not nothing.

But for people who are familiar with this industry, even steel is heavily automated. It's a lot of capital spending to set up a steel mill. They're not as many workers as there used to be. Would it create some jobs? Yeah? How many jobs will it create? I'm afraid not very many. It's also not going to cause the cost of your car or your plane fly to your house to go staring through the roof. That's my point about. You know,

both sides are exaggerating how important this is. But cutting steel imports by ten fifteen billion dollars, it's it's just not going to create very many jobs. Let me ask you what we got you on the phone here. One more about about NAFTA, You've said before that you've had it on my show that NAFTA it is time for it to be renegotiated. So people that kind of roll their eyes look skyward and all that when Trump says we got to renegotiate NAFTA, it does need some some updating.

What would be the best way for Trump to go about that? Right, So, it absolutely needs some updating. It's a twenty three year old agreement. It was path breaking at the time. You know, whether you think it's terrible or great, people tend to agree that it was path breaking. Um, it does need some updating. The world has changed a lot since then. You know, we didn't have digital trade then,

we didn't have trade through the internet. We didn't have people buying things online and anything like the quantities that we have now. So, I mean there's another situation where I think the President is right that it needs updated. I think what the administration is negotiating with to try to modernize the agreement and to say to Mexican Canada, look, the US is very good at services. You need to allow us to be able to sell our stuff digitally

and not have taxes or restrictions or planning games. So that those are good things to try to do. The President also really wants our bilateral trade deficit with Mexico to fall, and that's going to be really hard because the Mexican economy is basically not growing. So if you're just trying to upgrade and improve nafter, you can do it. And if you in the Mexicans and the Canadians don't go along, it's their fault. But if you're trying to get the trade deficit the fall, that's gonna be a

tough sell. Because we're growing faster than Mexico. It's gonna be really hard for them to buy more products from the United States when they're not buying more of their own products. Derek Scissors of AI. Everybody go to a EI dot org to read their latest research. Derek, thank you so much for joining. Thanks to your peace. Thank you. I enjoyed it. Say we're gonna roll into a quick break, will be back in just a few minutes. We're gonna

have Jesse Kelly joining later this hour. Talk about raising young men because he's got a couple of young men that he's raising kids. I don't, so he's an expert on that. I'm not. You'll be joining. We'll talk about that. Stay with me. He's back with you now, because when it comes to the fight for truth, the fuck never stops. As a millennial, I've heard a lot of the stories out there from those of you who are boomers gen xers.

Is Jen why a thing too about how you know, well, when I was going to college, I I was a bar back and I you know, worked as a golf golf caddy over the summer, and you know, you have you have all these stories about how you're saving money for college or or raising money for your college tuition when you're in it, and they make great stories to

tell your kids. And one of the get off my lawn things you often hear from the boomer generation is, you know, kids these days, they're just they expect someone else to pay for it, or it's all it's all taking out debt, and then they're hoping the debt will just be wiped away. I would note that that is a major major platform for the sander Nista left wing

of the Democrat Party going forward. You got a trillion dollar student loan bubble out there, people are just gonna say that, yeah, just we should just have debt forgiveness of it, just forgive the debt. What do they think about what that would mean? No, they don't. But it's gonna get bigger because there's no way people are gonna be able to pay off a lot of those loans um.

But there's a great piece in the New York Time, you know, in the Wall Street Journal at the New York Times, you can't work your way through college anymore, and it just talks about how different the situation is now when you're talking about a particularly a four year private college, but even a lot of these states schools. The difference between what it used to be to go to a place like Yale, for example, very fancy, very elite school, versus what it would be to go to

Yale today. And this is then filters down all the way across the spectrum. So the notion that you could wait tables, you know, you could have some job as a lifeguard at the beach, save money and pay off a semester at college that's gone, you would have to be making well. He gives you this, gives you the numbers here, and I'll walk you through someone numbers. Here's what he writes. This is by Richard West the Wall Street Journal. That's right for all you get off my

law types. You guys, when it when it came to college tuition, I'm gonna say it, you had it easy. You had it easy compared to what's going on today. It is out of control now. And I would also know that you're supposed to get an advanced degree now, just to have one, even if you don't use it. And I know so many people that have j d s. You know, went to law school, and it's like, oh, what do you do? I work in marketing? What do you Why do you have a j d? Heh? You know?

Is you know? I gotta gotta be competitive three years of law school anyway. Here's what Richard West writes in nineteen fifty six as a freshman at year Yil. Here's a Yale man, he's a yearly. I waited tables in a student dorm for about one dollar an hour, ten hours a week. I received a full scholarship. But even if it had ended, I recall that Yale's all in price is amazing. Yale is all in price, including tuition,

room and board, was eighteen hundred dollars a year. And my work while in school during the term ten hours a week would have covered a sixth of that, So you would while you're in school. This is not even paying it off after you get out of school. While you were in school in six you could pay off a chunk of your Yale tuition, and then when you graduate you have even lesson. As everyone knows, you've gotta pay interest on the debt and everything else on the loan.

He goes on. Today, tuition room and board of Yale run sixty six thousand, nine hundred dollars. Now for a lot of people, I know they're gonna say a book eighteen hundred dollars and nineteen fifty six was a lot more than than it is today. Uh, it wasn't sixty six thousand dollars. Might have been I don't know. We could actually look at what the uh what the inflation calculator would say for it. I don't know, maybe maybe five ten x, you know, maybe something like that. It was.

It wasn't almost seventy grand now eighteen hundred bucks and nineteen fifty six wasn't seventy thousand dollars? Okay, so that much I know, no false, And we're not talking about eighteen fifty six. This is nineteen fifty six. So he goes into some of the number crunching here. This is just before we all, you know, hear all the stories. You know, order order trojure my university classes and four fut or snow. And I was carrying on my back

the lumber for my job as a campus lumberjack. You know, I was carrying around paying her off the hard waree splinters in my hands when I was doing multi variable calculus. You know, we hear all these stories. You know, people, you know, are you finished with the sawmill at nine am? And I was on campus at ten am paying it off. Now that's all great, but it doesn't really work that

way anymore. Here's what he writes. Quote today, tuition, room and board at Yale run sixty six dollars working the same amount as I did even at twelve dollars an hour. An increase of roughly one third after inflation, produces income of thirty six dollars, or slightly more than five of the total to earn enough to pay for one sixth of a Yale education, which require an hourly wage of

more than thirty seven dollars. Yeah, not a lot of college kids are getting thirty seven dollars an hour for their job unless they're an s A T hooter maybe um. And I don't know what that markets like these days either, but this is where we start to look at how higher education is just completely out of control in terms of costs right now. I also think the quality has

gone down dramatically. You look at what was required curriculum and a lot of these schools back in the fifties and sixty So for the get off my law types out there, you've got some you've got some stuff, you've got some likes to stand on. Uh. But now you know, you get everyone coming out of school with women in gender studies degree thirty forty fifty, sometimes a hundred thousand

dollars in debt, and this has become the norm. This is now the expectation for a lot of well, this is the expectation, and society is is pushing people into this. It's just assumed that you shouldn't do trade school. You know, it's just and I want to say, assumed a lot of you are like Buck, I went to trade school. I didn't assume that. I'm talking about, you know, the the general cultural thrust right, the uh, the media, the

institutions around us. How do here's a good example, how do high schools generally measure the success of their graduates? What percentage go to college? It's not what percentage get a good paying job right away and start saving for a down payment on a house and creating skills and financial security for themselves. That's not how they measure success. And maybe they should change that a little bit. You know, they should probably have a what yeah, okay, what level

of people are uh coming out here? What percentage of people are coming out and going to college? But it would also be worthwhile to have what percentage of students leave this high school and have gainful employment within the first, you know, twelve months of graduating. If that's what they choose to do, we really need to change this. If if I knew now, or if I knew them what I know now about what it would mean to go away for four years and be told to just study

and better myself and read. Oh my gosh. And I think even spending a year to working or serving your country the military is an obvious choice, but there are other capacities in which I think service would even be very illuminate eating. This needs to be a much bigger national conversation along with school choice. Uh. There are so many places here where conservatives are actually on you know, the conservatives are on the side of innovation and improvement.

It is the liberals who are part of these sclerotic, stubborn bureaucracy that refuses to change, that excuses failure, in fact, always finds a way to transfer the responsibility to failure onto someone else's shoulders. And it's just unwilling to look at what's really happening in education in this country despite all the spending. You know, they're so quick to make fun of Betsy Devas, who's at least trying to do something to help kids in particularly inner city schools, in

in minority uh minority areas with low average incomes. You know, she's trying to help those students, and people want to mock her. I know she's mocked on SNL over the weekend. When I look at this now and I see top to bottom education has become too expensive. It is not better. It is focusing on less applicable skills, and it's inexcusable because technology and the availability of information has never been

better than it is right now. So we've just got to catch up with some of the ideas and policies and use the technologies we have so that everybody's finding their best path, whatever that may be. I gotta roll, no break team, I'll be back. Welcome back everyone. We are gonna switch gears here for a moment and uh get into some some man time. We've got Jesse Kelly with us. He is a former Marine. He is also former Congressional Kennedy. He writes, he does TV appearances. He's

all around pundit and uh opinionated fellow. He's got a great piece up on the federal list. Why a good father prepares his sons for war, and we have Jesse now to tell us why that is. Jesse, thank you so much for joining Good talk to Are you down in Texas? Where are you right now? Coming to us Fry, I'm down in Texas. I'm down in Houston. So I hope you Northeast people are freezing at tests up there

because it's eighty degrees down here and follow me. Oh my gosh, I am refusing to believe that we are about to get hit. Almost I think to the day the first day of spring with the North easter. That just seems like it's too cruel. But enjoy, enjoy your your warmth down in Texas while we freeze up here.

So Jesse, tell me about why good good son prepared, sorry, a good father prepares his son for war, because that's why that's part of the reason why men were created on the men are the protectors of society, not of just this society, of any society, and power never disappears, it just changed his hands. So if we don't have strong men, then you get bullies and jerks who pick

on the week. And that's why you're seeing a lot more of that in this society today because we're rating and raising a connald generation of boys, and we've told them they need to be sensitive and all these other things instead of telling them you need to be a man, you need to protect those weaker than you. And Jesse, you mentioned in your piece a journalist by the name of will likech I believe, who wrote about his experience shooting a twenty gauge, not even a twelve gauge, a

twenty gage shotgun. Can you just give us a little bit of the backstory there, because this is quite this is quite a tale. Somebody sent me the tale. Apparently this Will has a series. I mean, he has an actual series about raising boys. He's got a couple of songs, and he tells the story about how horrible guns are and how scared he was. I guess when he was a boy, just a young boy. His dad just hand him at twenty gauge with no instructions, no help, no

safety classes. The kid holds it up, a from his body, shoots off around into a field. The gun goes flying, the kids scared to death. That's good. It was the most embarrassing thing I have ever read in my life. As far as a fatherhood thing. That's not Will's problem. That's Will's father's problem. Every man should teach his son how to handle a weapon comfortably. You don't have to

raise the Navy seal. Teach your son how to handle himself with a weapon, hand with safely, make sure he respects it, make sure he knows how deadly it is, and that teach him to be fast and deadly with it, because he may have to do one that. I also

had to note that in in this piece. And by the way, so Jesse, you now realize that it is incumbent upon you to write how to How to Raise a Son properly series, right, because we've got the progressive left wing version from this fellow Mr Leitch, but now we need the Jesse Kelly version in in total, I can't.

I mean, this piece is a great start, So I'm gonna I'm just gonna put some more work on your plate, Jesse, along with the podcast, and we're gonna keep hearing the freedom of demanding you launch in the next six months. But tell me, tell me more about will Light and this notion that he's upset that his children are sick or that his his boy specifically because they're white males, are succeeding, and how that's not good. He gets a

call into his teacher, to his son's teacher. Uh, and his wife's go in and sit down in front of his son's teacher and finds out that his kid is doing great in school, that his kid is brilliant and personable and his grades are great, and the teacher specifically said his son was a golden child, and was Will happy. Yes, But also, and he writes us down in the piece, a part of him was really concerned, does his son only have that success at the expense of the others.

Haven't and I quote this, haven't white men already succeeded enough? I mean, I cannot imagine how twisted up and tormented you have to be as a father to get a glowing report about your son and be uneasy about it. That is a mixed up person in science, and he's gonna mixed up as boys if you pass down to we're speaking of Jesse Kelly's former marine and uh you

can follow him on Twitter at Jesse Kelly d C Jesse. I. I really liked the part of your article in The Federalist here where you went into it's not just about don't allow yourself to be bullied. It's also teaching your kids don't allow anyone to bully somebody else. That that bullying. You know, there's all these national anti bullying campaigns, and that's all fine and good. I think sometimes totally they're a little off as to how to prevent bullying. But

bullying is very bad. But the real way to get it to stop is one, as you said, as a father, tell your kids, I better never hear about you bullying somebody else who's weaker than you, because I will ring down the fury. Uh and too if you see, if you see anyone else who is being bullied you, as an honorable young man, it is incumbent upon you to step in and stop that bullying. It is everything that the people praying on the week are the worst people in the world, and part of every man's duty is

to stop that, put a stop to that. And you're right. My sons have been told several times you will never bully somebody, or you will not enjoy it, but you will stop a bully. And if you get in trouble in school or you get sent home, you get suspended for a couple of days. Guess what that's gonna be an enjoy a couple of enjoyable couple of days for you, because you're gonna be in no trouble in my household. A few months ago, my nine year old stop the

bully in school was taken on another small kid. As you can imagine, I'm huge and my son is huge, and he put a stop to it. I've never been so proud of my dad on life, and that extends into adulthood too. That's not just the schoolyard camp campaign. The reason you see so much of this disgusting harassment in Hollywood is because there were Matt No meds to stand there, no man to step in and tell Harvey Weinstein to sit down or he's gonna get touched in

his face. Because all the anti bullying programs in the world are fine, that's good, but there is still no substitute for balling up your fists and smashing it into somebody's nose. Jesse, what are the two or three most important things that you think that right now, every uh young man in America should hear from either father, older brother, guardian, whoever it is that is the the the prominent male

figure in his life. What what are the two or three things you think everyone should be told now, given the direction of the culture, which is obviously not really handling this the way that it should. No whining life is unfair, and it is your duty to protect those who are weaker than you. All right, I like it. We can put that on a we just put that on a T shirt. Actually, Jesse Kelly was I'm with it, my friend, Jesse. Your piece and the Federalist is great.

Everybody should check it out. It is all about how to raise a son who is quote prepared for war, not just in the military sense, but in the being a good person who defends other sense. Jesse, anywhere you want to direct the folks listening to find your stuff for more what you're up to. Come find everything I do on Twitter at Jesse Kelly d C. Every article I do, everything I talk about everybody'll hit. Everything I do is all on there at Jesse Kelly DC. And

I also have a Facebook page Jesse Kelly. If you start it should pop right up. All right. Fantastic, Jesse. Thank you so much, sir for your service, for your time, and for the drinks you're gonna buy me the next time you're New York City. I appreciate it. I got your brother. I'll be there all right, talk to you to Jesse. Thanks man. Alright, team, we are going to roll into a break here for the third hour of the Box Sexton Show, which is going to talk a

bit about China and how they're stealing our technology. You want to hear it. He's back with you now because when it comes to the fight for truth, the fuck never stops. You are now entering the Tle Operations Center. A programs must be kept strictly need to know Team Bucket is cleared and ready for the buck Brief. How China pushes the limits on military technology transfer is the

title of the article in the Wall Street Journal. It should be how China is stealing us blind when it comes to our most critical national security technology are most critical commercial proprietary technology, and how this is not only being done on a scale that would infuriate most Americans if they actually knew what the heck was going on, but it's largely being done out in the open. Let me explain. This was a piece by a memory of Congress Bob Pittinger where he's talking about some of these

joint projects that are out there. I mentioned this to you last week, how uh broad Colm was not allowed to take over quaal Calm. These are very high tech chip manufacturers and telecommunication companies because President Trump was just like, Nope, not gonna happen. There are important national security implications for this technology. We can't let China be in control of one of our most important, one of our most important

companies in that area. Technically, the company would have been owned in Singapore, would have been acquired by a Singapore based company, but Singapore has deep ties to China. The Chinese have a lot of influence to bring to bear in Singapore, and if they had slowed things down or Garne in another direction, that Chinese could indirectly get a major advantage in the race for five G telecommunication technology. This is important stuff, folks, and we think about it

in the data day as well. This would mean you could download an entire high definition movie in a second instead of twenty minutes on your WiFi. Think about what that also means though, for the transfer of military technology and for just communication across the board. This is critical stuff, and yet this somehow he's into major story. We also don't hear much about what the Chinese are really up to in the open. Recently, we've gotten a better sense

of what they're hacking. UH efforts have led to. We're getting we're starting to learn more from our own government about just how intrusive Chinese hacking efforts have been into our systems. But what about the things that are happening out in the open. This is from this Wall Street journal piece. I wanted to share some of it with you and then tell you that it's even worse than Congressman Pittinger is saying here. But here's how he starts

the piece. Quote, for years, the Chinese government has evaded America's technology transfer safeguards and been allowed to vacuum up military applicable technologies from US companies. The Chinese have perfected the weaponization of investment as a legal means to achieve this massive transfer of dual use technology, bolstering China's military modernization. If the US loses its military technology advantage over China and other adversaries, it will one day cost American lives.

And he cites specifically the effort by Broadcom, Singapore based company to take over Qualcom, which Trump shot down. But when you look at what has already happened, what is already going on here, you see that there are US companies that are lobbying against any restrictions on their very cozy relationships with Chinese based companies because they want access to the markets. This is about the bottom line for

those companies. But in order to get access to the markets, guess what, the Chinese Communist Party, which runs the economy as well as the government, will insist on US companies sharing some very sensitive dual use technology. This has happened in many cases as cited in this piece in the Wall Street Journal. Here are just a few of them.

Quote in general, Electric formed a joint venture with Aviation Industry Corporation of China, one of China's premier state owned enterprises and the primary supplier of aircraft for China's military. Sharing cutting edge avionics technology, a v i C now has an enhanced capability to produce high performance aircraft cockpit controls and displays, as well as communications and navigation systems

which it can adapt for Chinese warplanes. So thanks to JEEZ venture in China, Chinese war fighters, specifically in this case, aviators might have an advantage in the future. This is very serious stuff, and I think part of the problem here is that the left and academia in this country do not want us to know. They do not want you to be familiar with the full extent of the

Soviet penetration of sensitive US government agencies. They're basically was a Soviet agent in every single major US government agency at the start of the Cold War and all the way up to those with direct access to the President. The Soviet theft of nuclear technology because of the Rosenbergs is somewhat well known, but how many Americans know that the penetrations of US avionics technology, for example, led to us to miscalculate what kind of advantage we would have

in the air. During the Korean War. We figured that our first generation of jets, never mind even on some of our propeller planes, would dominate the skies in our fight with North Korea. But guess what. The MiG fighters they came up against were flying circles around the stuff we put up in the air. Because the Soviets had stolen our best stuff and used it for their own purposes, they actually had an advantage. And therefore Soviet planes that we went up against in the Korean War had an advantage.

This is how the great game of nation states and civilizations has played out for millennia, and we in this country, I think, are blithely unbothered by what's going on here. Let's time for all of us to wake up on this one. This is where the important I've got more for you from this Wall Street Journal piece quote in ten Ge formed a joint venture with another Chinese company handing over advanced battery technology that could have battlefield applications

such as powering heavy ground vehicles. The same year, General Electric formed a partnership with Chinese government affiliated Huawei to develop cloud based industrial applications for the Internet of Things. This arrangement could result in long term cyber vulnerabilities for the US, in part because, like so many so called private companies in China, Huawei is beholden to the Chinese Communist Party and is functionally an arm of the Chinese government.

Just like I said. Likewise, IBM has systematically transferred high and computing technology to China. By according to a working group of experts in the National Security Agency and Energy Department, China had attained a near peer status with the US in high performance computing. Without a doubt, IBMS technology transfers

have contributed to China's enhanced high performance computing capabilities. This will lead to a severe compromise of our national security as we have a loss of leadership and high performance computing end quote I mean, and there's even more in IBM formed a joint venture with a Chinese company in spur, handing over the capability to manufacture its own computer servers. That same year, IBM established a partnership with the state

owned China Telecom, agreeing to hand over cloud computing technology. Folks, We have US based companies that are handing over the keys to the store, and yeah, they're doing it because they want access to the Chinese markets. They're just looking at their bottom line. But there are clear dual use applications here, and this is the kind of technology that if we actually go to war with China in the future,

could be a major problem for us. Think about a world in which China actually has the technological advantage over us militarily. What if they have the best, the fastest, the smartest in planes, submarines, technology of all kinds that's applicable in the battlefield. That's what we are heading toward right now. If we don't get a handle on this, there's only so much our R and D can do to keep us ahead of China if China can keep stealing our research and development. And yet everyone's kind of

asleep on this one for the most part. We all just want cheap flat screen televisions and all kinds of junks sent over in huge quantities for us to purchase at the cheapest possible price, and companies like General Electric and IBM are just happy to pad their bottom line. They don't see or don't care to see the national

secure the implications of this. But when we faced off against our most recent near peer global competitor, the Soviet Union, it was our technological advantage that was among the most important things We had to keep them in check. Eventually, our economy ran them into the ground, but they were much closer to us militarily than they should have been at numerous points in the Cold War. Because of all this stuff. The Soviets stole Chinese how the second biggest

economy in the world, and it's growing very rapidly. They have embraced a market mentality for the purposes of wealth creation and production. It's just state controlled, but their economy is not going to creater and collapse into nothing. They are looking to supplant us as the most powerful nation on earth, and they're stealing some of our most valuable intellectual property in that pursuit. And not only that, we have US companies that are handing it over to them.

The Trump administration needs to take action here. I'll follow up more on there's a bill making its way through Congress that will discuss In fact, I'll try to see if you get one of the co authors, maybe even the author of this piece in the Wall Street Journalill come on and talk. I've got more team, stay with me. It was only a matter of time before it was gonna happen, and now it has. The first person on record has been killed by a self driving or autonomous vehicle.

This happened in Arizona, and it is the first time. It will not be the last time. But it does have some implications I think for where all this is heading, where all this self driving phenomenon is gonna go. Uh. And first of all, it's just it's tragic, you imagine. I mean, there was somebody behind the wheel of this uber self driving car in Arizona, but they put it on autopilot essentially, and it struck a woman in a crosswalk.

Now here's what I've known all along about this. People say that there are roughly what, gosh, I don't even know, thirty thousand. I think auto fatality is a year something like that, something in that neighborhood. Maybe it's less now I think that might have been the all time high. Um. But the thing about those fatalities is that they are spread out among Oh wow, forty forty thousand people died in motorbile vehicle accidents. I thought it was thirty thousands.

It's even more than I thought. But a vast majority people don't often talk about this vast majority of vehicular fatalities involve driver error, which is not surprising. Um In in many cases I should actually check and see what

the stats are. I think it's just people that make a mistake, much more so than it is people who are impaired or who are doing anything illegal necessarily during you know, people forget to look one way and you know they go through the light or things like that are are obviously a large portion I don't know what the what the percentages are, but a large portion of auti fatalities. But anytime a person dies in a car crash.

And it's one thing that here in New York City growing up was was different than it was in other places around the country. I remember when I got to college, I noticed how friends of mine, all of my friends, pretty much to a person, had at least one of their friends died in a car accident in high school. I mean a high school aged person that they knew had died in a car accident. At worst. Because I'm from New York City, none of us even were driving.

Really maybe some of us. I drove senior year of high school, but that just wasn't a problem for for us to be worried about. We had we had other things to worry about. But anyway, the overwhelming number of cases of a driver of fatalities a driver air but in all those forty thousand or so deaths, the liability for it is spread around to the individuals involved in

the crash, not the car company. Al Right, So if you're in a a Ford Fiesta and you crash into somebody who's in a Prius and there's a fatality in that other car, that's something that you and your insurance companies are dealing with, but it's not something that falls squarely on the shoulders of the manufacturer. I don't know how they're going to handle this from an insurance standpoint. I'm sure there probably are ways, which is why they're

pursuing this. But if any time there's a autonomous vehicular accident that ends in a fatality, it ends up being the company's fault, the company can be sued. I don't see how you have a situation that doesn't essentially turn into the equivalent of one long running class action lawsuit against Uber or against whichever company wins this race for

autonomous driving dominance. And I also know that there are a lot of people that are gonna that are gonna push back against having all of the different vehicles out there that are machine driven, that are run by algorithms, that are run by artificial intelligence. People like to drive. Everyone in my family, all the males in my family, I should say, really like driving a lot. I do not.

I'm fine with it, but I don't enjoy it. Like whenever someone says, hey, I'll drive you, I'm always like, yeah, that sounds good, go ahead. You know. I'm not somebody who fights for the steering row. I just don't really care. I'm also someone who now has avoided I haven't rented a car in in years because I would just prefer to Uber wherever I am, I have no entry. I've had some of the most negative consumer experiences of my life have involved car companies. I hate the whole thing.

I hate the hard sell for the bogus additional insurance, all the little extras they try to throw on. You know, here's your little garment GPS, and if you lose it, it's like a thousand dollars or some I mean the whole thing, right, I hate all that stuff. So I'm a big Uber proponent. I just don't know how Google Uber. This is a massive technology race that's going on right now.

I don't know how they deal with the issue of the liability of if you are relying on computers to do this, you know, if you're relying on computers to be driving vehicles, unless you can dramatically drop down the number, which is part of the argument. I mean, there's a lot of interesting philosophical components here, but unless you dramatically drive down the number of overall fatalities, it seems to me that you have a big problem of how do we pay for all of the liability that we have

as a result of this? You know, computers are gonna fail, and then there's just another And this is not a technology based argument, um, And we're gonna be switching here into a discussion of a movie that I saw over the weekend in a few minutes, The Shape of Water. It was terrible, but I'll give you more than that. But uh, I get a little nervous even with things like elevators. Having been stuck in my fair share of elevators, and I just hate that sense of loss of control.

Even if someone shows me the statistics about driving a car or someone else driving me in a car, that it's much less safe than what the autonomous vehicles will be able to to accomplish in in a few short years. I think there's a part of all of us, that there's a part of us as human beings that just want to be able to have some say, some control over are well, whether we live or die in this case. And even if the technology is better, it's gonna take

a while for us to switch about anyways. Autonomous vehicle as a subject. We'll get into more going forward, but first fatality and uh, it's gonna slow this whole process down a bit, and very sad. We're gonna run to a quick break team. We'll be right back. He's back with you now, because when it comes to the fight for truth, the fuck never stops. This may very well be the most sensitive asset ever to be housed in

this facility. You may think that thing looks human, stands on two legs, right, but we're created in the Lord. J You don't think that's what the Lord looks like. This creature is intelligent, capable of language, of understanding emotions. When he looks at me, he doesn't know how I am incomplete he sees me. I. That was from the trailer for the Shape of Water, which won the Oscar for Best Picture. I felt like I was obligated on

Friday to watch this movie. Plus MS Molly wanted to check it out, and I said, okay, fine, And I remember thinking to myself, how bad could it really be? It won the best Picture for the entire year. Oh boy, I was wrong. It was even worse than I expected. The Shape of Water is about a woman who has

a sexual relationship with an aquarium pet. I'm not even going to get too far into a criticism of the movie being kind of slow, the dialogue being lackluster, and all the rest of it, the whole thing being trite. I'm actually more annoyed about the messaging in this film and also the completely predictable lens that it looks at this situation that has created this this fantasy. But on the the biggest charge what I just said that this is about a woman who has a romantic relationship, has

a love affair with an aquarium pet. For those who would say, oh, Buck, that's not fair. I say, at what point does it become clear? In this movie, which is about essentially the creature from the Blue Lagoon or whatever, or the Deep Lagoon, whatever, that monster creature is gets captured by some government scientists and then the experiment on it.

And this woman is cleaning up the room where they keep the monster, not exactly the tightest secure early in the world, and then she decides that she really likes the sea monster, and they start getting kind of playful. Then she brings it home, plops it in her bathtub, and proceeds to get amorous. I will say, and by the way, you see a good bit of that in this movie that won the Academy Award for Best Picture. Now, I've seen a couple of different methods of trying to

explain this away. I think it is bizarro on many levels, and and I think it is quite weird. Um, I'm not okay with the whole thing. But people say, Buck, look at other fairy tales, even the great fairy tales we were told as children, right, the princess who kisses the frog. Yeah, but the frog turns into a human being. That's the whole point. It's actually supposed to be a human. People say, oh buck, what about Beauty and the beast. You know, it's like she's with some kind of a

large wolf like creature. It's actually human who has a spell on him. All right, that's different. This sea monster that the woman in the shape the shape of water falls in love with, at no point becomes a human being, is actually a human being, is even partially a human being. It's a fish from what we can tell. And then I know the response would be well backed. But it does sign language and it understands her, the protagonist, so well. And to that, I would say, chimpanzees can do sign language,

in fact, can do it quite well. And yes, dogs can understand emotion quite well. And while you know, I'm quite fond of dogs, they are not human beings. And I think that the messaging in this movie is lame as well as a bit creepy. Never mind the fact that who who's the bad guy? Oh, of course a they might as well have had him. He's this white, square jawed government guy. He might as well have had

a big maga hat on. For the entirety of the movie, even though it takes place, I guess in the late fifties. But he's all about you know, the government and God and America at and he's the worst. He is an unfeeling, sadistic, terrible piece of trash. And everyone else in the movie that you might identify as being somewhat of a liberal, even the communist traitor, the guy who's a double agent for the Soviets, right, he betrays his American colleagues. He's

pretending to be someone he's not. Even he has some salvation the movie because well, I don't want to give it all away in case you want to watch it, but every one has redeeming characteristics and qualities except for the white male Christian government you know FBI guy. Basically,

this is what I always have to laugh about. The media hates white males and the FBI by and large, you know, they really are against them for a whole bunch of reasons, except for any white males of the FBI that are useful in bashing Trump or or who are trying to take the Trump presidency down. But but the Shape of Water is just it was a really bad movie. I mean, they should rename it the Shape of Goose Turd, because that's what it was that at one.

Best picture is just more evidence of what I've been saying for some time, which is that the movie industry is in a really weak spot these days. TV is doing well overall, and I think it's going to continue on this path. But the Shape of Water, it's just hollow. The whole thing. It is unredeeming in in every way. Uh. And I just couldn't believe it that that this is what This is not just a movie that I'm trashing, folks.

This is supposed to be the collective wisdom of Hollywood is what is the best movie of Like I said, Big Goose, Turt, We'll be right back. I like to think of myself as an innovator. Team there are times when I have to stop and give myself a little bit of credit for being a trendsetter or perhaps a pioneer of style, at least when it comes to food and eating of meat. So I realized this because I made a ribby for Ms. Molly and I on Friday, and I will tell you that it was seared perfectly

and it was amazing. The dollar cast iron pan that I got myself was one of the better investments I can remember making in recent years. But the next day, I thought to myself, you know, what is one to do with leftover ribby? Oh, that's right, I'm going to

make steak and eggs. That was also amazing, by the way, But then I thought to myself, what am I going to do with some of that delicious thick cut bacon that I have in my fridge that I specifically got so that I could cook it to absolute perfection on Saturday and have a hashtag Buck brunch. Why is it just steaking eggs, my friends, when it could be steak and eggs and bacon. Ah. Indeed, so I went with all three the trifecta steak, eggs, and bacon for brunch

on Saturday. And this is what everyone should do going forward. There's no need to cut out the bacon just because you're having the steak. Maybe just limit yourself to a pounder sew. And with that, I would like to get into some roll call. Team Buck. It's time for roll call, and remember, if you want to be a part of roll call, you can send us a message on Facebook at facebook dot com, slash Buck Sexton or official Team

Buck at gmail dot com. If you'd like to send an email We are also thinking about setting up a special voicemail that we would be able to have recording when we're not on air, and then those of you who have a voice message you'd like to leave so that the rest of the team can hear it, we could do that. So if you couldn't listen live, for example, if you happen to be one of our wonderful podcast listeners, well then we very much could put your audio on air when we do our next live show. First up

on roll Call is Roger. He writes, Buck just heard the podcast uh from the Friday show about Bob Dylan and gurgling with Gergen. It made me laugh out loud. No easy task, shields Hie. Thank you very much. Roger with Gergan and Bob Dylan also make me laugh. Monica next up here, she writes, Uh, this is the husband of Monica and I ate these in Belfast. You asked was their Irish ethnic food? Here it is Shepherd's pie. Okay,

that's I'll take it. Not exactly something that's gonna get me too excited in the world of culinary excellence, but Shepherd's pie is indeed. Is it Irish thrower? Is it English? Oh? I don't want to get the middle of that one. Let's get to Erica, and she writes, I really listened to Thursday's program to get the name of the Progressive Hostility study. Since none of my Google searches found it, I tried again to conduct the exact title and nothing.

Tried Duck duck go, and voila, there was the study. Well, Erica, I don't know about this duck duck go, but maybe it's better for some thing than Google. I'll have to check it out. But the piece that I mentioned was on quillette dot com and it was or I went into some depth about it and just mentioned it, and it was the Psychology of Progressive Hostility. Next up here, Joey Annette, wow Buck, you're right, Sessions did fire me, Cabe. Jeff is a little late to the party, but he

finally showed up with a haymaker. Now he'll just un recuse himself and fire Muller and stop this stupid waste of taxpayer money masquerading as an investigation. Shields high and keep up the good work. Well, Joey in Annette, I will say that I not only called the firing on radio, I also went out there on Outnumbered on Fox News on Friday and said, Hey, guess what, there's gonna be a firing of McCabe And uh, I was correct, So thank you for noting that I was in fact correct.

Next up here, hold on one second, is Philip, and he writes, Hey, man, I'm sure you've probably been told already, but producer Mike was incorrect about the population of Russia. Yes, Philip, Uh, I was in fact basically correct. I said a hundred and twenty million. The population of Russia's actually a hundred and forty million. Producer Mike on Friday told me it was seventy million based on a quick Google search. Do not worry. We will shortly assign him a code read Dick.

Once again, this goes to my theory that even when I think I might be wrong, I'm usually right. Uh let's see, Dale, He writes, really enjoyed your sidebar the other evening about missed a game series near and dear to my heart, So Buck, which brother did you pick at the end of the original game, Dale, I cannot tell a lie. I didn't get that far and missed because I was really young when I was playing it, and some of those puzzles may have stumped me, but

miss was. I remember going into computer stores in the early days of home PCs, or it is of PCs home PC would be repetitive, and there were missed. There were copies of missed everywhere. I also remember really not liking Mac computer uters for a while because all of the video games were for PC windows, and if you wanted good games, Mac was not the choice for you. And then later on people pretty much stopped using their

computers for games. I feel like, in general at all went to PlayStations and these other consoles with the big flat screen TVs. But I did not get very far in missed. I must be honest with you. Now, we've got Pablo who writes listening to your show recently, and you were talking about visiting Vietnam. We're heading there a week from Monday and are super pumped. We're doing Hannoy for a few days in a Cinnamon Cathedral UH hotel and then onto how Long Bay for a few nights.

We're disappointed to miss h some of the stuff, but pumping nonetheless. A Pablo, I think you're gonna have a great time. I love the food. I think it's I just think it's a really interesting place and very very different from other cultures and other countries around the world. But have a great time and let us know what

you think. And for those of you who asked what cuisine I'd recommend to start with, I mentioned Foe, which is the most famous, which you usually spelled p h o, which is sliced beef in a kind of soup slash noodle stew. But the other thing that I really love is a rice pancake called a band saw, So if you can get that, I would say that's a very good place to start. And Boon Cha, which is a

noodle dish, is also really excellent. By the way, one of the reasons I like this food so much, Vietnamese food is that it doesn't use that much soy sauce, so as a ciliac, I can eat most things on the menu. It uses mostly rice instead of flower noodles, so that's just for full disclosure. It's one of the only cuisines that is a an ethnic cuisine that is really easy for people who are gluten intolerant to enjoy. William is up next to here, He writes, quit crying

about being old. I started Tae Kwondo at forty four, after twenty years of army service and over a thousand days in Iraq, and five kids. The five kids are much more challenging than convoy security. William, You're right, man, I uh, I shouldn't be given any I shouldn't be complained at all. I don't know how all you folks out there who are parents, I don't know how you do it. Uh. Kimberly is next up here, she writes, Buck, I love your show, O S S Team Buck, North Carolina. Well,

thank you very much, Kimberly, I appreciate it. Next one here in roll Call is Christie. She writes, I think there's at least one movie in which Colin Farrell does not suck. He plays a hit man alongside a fellow brilliant actor in uh In in Bruges. Interesting film and beautiful scenery. I hope you all have a wonderful weekend. Happy St. Patrick's Day, and yeah us you're allowed to say, y'all we don't mind, Christie, O S S. Member, Well, thank you so much, Christie. Hope y'all have a great

Saint Patrick's two down in Uh? Where were you? OSS member? From where? I'm not clear she was from the South, between which we know Christie. I haven't seen in Bruges, but I have heard good things, so maybe I'll add that to my now very rapidly expanding list of shows that I must check out. So um, with that team, I am going to close up shop here in the Freedom Hunt for the day. Thank you always for being with me. Please uh spread the word about what we do here and see you tomorrow shield Hie