Live From the El Paso Border Crisis

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CBP facility. So with these numbers, with the types of illnesses we're seeing at the border, I fear that it's just a matter of time. Welcome to the Buck Sex and Show, my friends. I'm here in El Paso, Texas. I spent the day with Border patrol and the news I have to share with you is not good. The situation is deteriorating, the numbers are skyrocketing. The border is not secure. In fact, the border, if you know what you're doing, if you have gotten word of our system

and the loopholes in it, border is wide open. I saw surrenders happening in real time today. I saw arrests happening in real time today. Scores, if not hundreds of people in the just few hours that I spent doing a ride along and going to different points along the border. Here, they have set records in the last week thousands in a day along the entirety of the El Paso border sector.

They by this time last year had nine thousand arrests. Remember, even when people claim asylum and initially they that is counted as an arrest because they're crossing, not at a point of entry. When they surrender, they are an illegal crosser. But after being in illegal then they get processed and

put into the system for asylum. And what you have in many cases are people try to come in illegally and just try to get into America and then once captured by border patrol and put through the process, then they claim asylum because why not take that first shot, you get through the whole process. You don't really have to wait. This is unsustainable. The number is going to be over one hundred thousand for the month of March. That's along the border. That's people arrested and detained all

along the southern border. One hundred thousand in one month. That number is far more impactful, far more significant, even than the numbers back in the mid two thousand, say, two thousand and four to two thousand and five, when they would have as much as two hundred thousand in a month along the border. Right, people would say, well, buck,

that's a lot more. Here's the difference. In the early two thousands along the border, what you had were people who are primarily single mail mex Sican national illegal crossers. Now what you have are families. Right, if you're a single male Mexican crosser and you are caught by border patrol, you would be immediately turned around and deported and the process was very rapid. You'd be put back in Mexico.

And in fact, there are plenty of border patrol guys that I've talked to you today and at other times will tell you that they would in the same shift sometimes catch people right, so you know, within a twelve hour period they'd have somebody that was deported back into Mexico and then would try to come back into the States again. There was catch and release, but the catch, I mean the release part of it was very rapid and it was right back across the border. Now what

you have are family units. I saw them today. It is startling what's going on here. You have of women who are showing up four or five children with them, you have yesterday. There were hundreds of women in a processing center that I went to today that is just the underpass of a bridge with some concertina wire and some some fencing. There were space blankets, you know, those metallic looking blankets that they give out that they're just

strewn all over all over the dirt floor. Women with their children coming into the country in large numbers because they know that if you come with your with a child accompanying you, even if you are initially detained for an illegal crossing, you cannot be separated, you cannot be processed criminally, and you will immediately be processed into the asylum system, which means that right now, if you are a woman who shows up at the border from Honduras.

From what we have a few from Guatemala today, and you say that you have a credible fear, you want to claim of SA you have children with you within forty eight hours, they're telling me now. Because the system is completely overwhelmed, they don't have the space to hold people,

to verify what they're saying, to check. They've got fake documents all over the place, people lying about who are their family members, and border patrols thing, look, we're just trying to make sure that no one dies in our custody because they have to segregate them out by communicable disease. They wouldn't show me, they wouldn't let me into those

facilities for obvious reasons. But they have an area for people with measles, an area for people with scabies, and area people with lives, and area for people with influenza, people with you know, H one N one or H one and two or whatever I mean. They're they're separating people out by disease now as they come across the border, and border patrol is not an emergency room. But you have a lot of people that show up. They're not dressed for the journey. They don't understand the risks inherent

and bringing particularly small children through the desert. The coyotes, the human smugglers that are employees of the cartel, which is very important for you to remember because the cartels that effectively run Mexico are making hundreds of millions of dollars off this process. Women now show up with a child, they're incentivized to show up with a child, and they're going to be led into the interior of the United States within forty eight hours. So yes, the austere conditions

I saw that they're held in. Initially, it is it's rough. I mean, you have women with small children. They're basically sitting in the dirt waiting to get processed, and they're surrounded with fencing and concertina wire. But there are no other facilities. There's there's no processing center for them because nothing was set up for this. They're not used to

hundreds of people. They've had hundreds that as many as three or were one hundred people at one time just show up in a big mass and say we are here to claim asylum. Then they have to get processed through the system. And oh, by the way, while that's happening, because all of them have to be taken in, made sure they're safe, made sure you know, our our border patrol. Folks. By the way, you know one part of this that

is a story that you don't hear. I mean, these these men and women, they're not making a lot of money. I mean quite the opposite. They're they're underpaid if anything. And there I looked at it, I said, you know what about I see some some blankets and some toys you know they have, they have DVDs and some of the facilities now with with children's movies on them, And

think where's that all coming from. Members of the Border Patrol are taking money out of their own pocket because they know what it's like to you know, have have kids who are crying, and you know they don't they don't want they don't want anyone to unduly suffer. They're going out of their way to make sure everyone that's showing up is safe and and and they're trying to give them their due process. And their hands are tied. Folks, by the way, for those of you are saying, buck,

they should just turn them around. That's not what the law says. Right now, are asylum laws as interpreted by the courts and therefore, as instituted by the executive branch, are that if you show up and claim a credible fear standard, you get your due process in court. The courts are so overwhelmed by this that it's it's going to be three, four or five years minimum for a

lot of these claims to be heard. Does anyone think by the time that they are heard there will be immigration judges who will say, oh, you're you're a woman and a mother of four who is now living with her husband in the United States. You're you're going to deport you in your whole family. Of course not. They are skipping the entire immigration system this. I understand why

they're doing it. Right, if I were coming from a desperate circumstance in a desperately poor country, you know, I might be willing to roll the dice on this too. I'm not no one saying that they're bad people, but what they're doing is wrong, and it's illegal, and it's a violation of our laws. And I gotta tell you, Congress doesn't seem to care very much at all about this. We do not have the attention on this issue that it should get. Not even close. People were channing, build

the wall. I keep saying, no, first deal with this because all the wall that we have, and they're building new wall here in El Paso. I've replacing the old wall with new wall. And I know there's a billion dollars of funding now that's being diverted for wall building. The wall is essentially a beacon that says come surrender here. The wall is like a lighthouse for people to skip past the system. They show up, they oh, there's the wall. That's where I go. That's where the nice border patrol

men show up. I wave to them. They bring me food and blankets and within forty eight hours. I mean, yeah, the conditions are not good that they're being helping because there's not supposed to be this number of people that are being processed into the system. But it's only two days. If you show up with the kids, it's days. Huge incentive to bring children, which also is endangering these kids, putting them in a situation where they're being exposed to

the elements, they're dehydrated, they're malnourished. There you know, all this stuff is happening. Where is the focus on this? Why aren't people shouting at Congress to change the law so that if you want to claim asylum, you have to do it from the nearest safe country, which means either Canada or Mexico. We need an agreement with those countries to do that, or we need to move infrastructure down to the border such that the immigration courts are

right here. We've got them. They are set up for this, and that's going to be a massive investment. And then we also need clarity on if you can't prove a real, credible fear of persecution. Remember, they're not just skip the immigration line. They're skipping past people who are legitimate asylum seekers. There are people who if they go I've been to the refugee camps in Syria. I know what it is to look into the eyes of families who if they

return home, they will be massacred. They've had men show up to their doors and say the government is going to kill you if you're here tomorrow. Those are asylum seekers. Most of the people that are coming across the border now have been coached to say we fear you know, I fear violence in my own country. When they really want is I want better wages and welfare benefits in America. That's not asylum one hundred thousand a month. Folks, This

cannot be ignored anymore. It's going to get worse. There are caravans now coming from Guatemala from Honduras. As words spreads further south, anybody within driving or trained distance is going to start showing up at the border. Why is there not greater focus on this? I can't even begin to tell you. This is a massive failure, and it

is happening on the Trump administration's watch. I am sorry to say where we were at over twenty million illegals in the country before, We're going to start adding a million illegals a year until we deal with this problem. I mean, how long is that sustainable? All Right? I'm live from El Passos. If you want to call in and talk to me about this, eight four to four nine two eight two five eight four four nine hundred buck will kick the lines open. I got more for

you on this. I mean, I'm I'm just shocked that you know, where, where are the conservatives who are chanting build the wall, saying shut down the asylum scam. That's what needs to happen. We'll be right back. It wasn't just Central Americans that I saw today getting arrested at the US Mexico border here in El Paso, Texas, where I'm coming to you from. Live as we speak. I saw two men make a run for it, and then when they realized border patrol was onto them, in part

because national Guard. Remember where we was told that all the national Guard, they can't help. Oh, actually they do help. National Guard surveillance vehicle caught them making a run for it. Then I was in the border patrol vehicle. We had to pack up our gear real fast and hop in and got hit the accelerator. We tracked down the two illegal crossers and they both wearing bright red T shirts with American flags on them. And they were young men,

maybe in their early twenties, from Cuba. So now you have to understand that there are people coming from as far away as Cuba. This is a long way for those who don't happen to have a map or globe in for them. We're a long way from Quba, We're we're a long way from Central America too, but you gotta cross a whole lot of water from Cuba to get here. But there's an understanding that if you show

up at the border, the word has gotten out. There are NGOs I would know that are telling people about this process that are spreading the word, and it's spreading online too, in social media, and they're handing out pamphlets and papers to people in different places that cartels are actively recruiting, saying come to America. It's easy, and they're right, it is easy. Right now. Forty eight all if thors have a kid with you, forty eight hours, you're in America,

scott free. You're good to go. Two days, folks, that's all I have to spend in custody. Two days. I know people that have spent years waiting in line for immigration to come through for them into this country legally years and thousands and thousands of dollars. Or you can show up at the southern border with a kid, say it's your kid, don't have any paperwork, they don't really know, and they'll let you in the United States. That is the system. I'm not exaggerating, I'm not skipping. That's what

is going on here right now. That's why you have one hundred thousand people who have done it this past month. Hundred thousand. It's a good sized US city each month. Will you start to ask the question, what's too much? What's and they're all staying. Ninety percent of them, you can assume are going to stay in the country. There's no interior enforcement. Nobody wants to deport people that are

in the country illegally, who don't commit Hainous crimes. And in some cases they don't even want to deport the ones that commit Haines's crimes. But we'll talk about the Democrats. Later saw another woman today who was detained, was arrested, couldn't have been older than twenty four to twenty five years old, must have been seven or eight months pregnant, and it looked like the baby could Honestly, I mean I didn't I didn't get to ask her. None of

them wanted to talk to me. We asked the reboard a patrol if some of them wanted to do they want to talk? No, do they want to talk even with no cameras, no nothing, I just want to hear their stories. No that they did not want to talk to me. Some of them were shy or I look, I understand that, and I of course I respect that. And you know, we respect people's privacy who who are

private citizens, even if they've been arrested. We're not gonna disrespect that, but it felt like they've been told not to talk, only speak to border pat That was my sense. That's just my sense. But this woman was in her mid twenties and she must have been third trimester pregnant. You can imagine making this journey. Came all the way from Guatemala, third trimester of pregnant, and was processing. It was gonna be processed. She'll be out probably less than

forty eight hours, probably twenty four. Very very because she's a high priority for them because she's a pregnant woman. And border patrols very humane and they want to do everything that they can to make sure everybody's okay. They want to enforce the law, but make sure everybody was okay. It's hard when you have what is effectively a migrant invasion going on. That's what's happening. If you don't like the word invasion, it's a migrant invasion. It is a

mass movement of people. But that one woman that I saw all day, here's an example of what it's going to be happening. She's gonna be releasing this year the United States. She's going to have her child in the US, all paid for by the taxpayer, of course, and he'll be a US citizen or she'll be a US citizen. There is no realistic universe where she will ever be deported. She has managed to skip past the entire immigration line in less than twenty four hours of actual processing. And

that's all she wrote. Folks. That is the story of your southern border right now. Please please pay attention to this and let's make some noise about it. Live in El Paso, Texas today, my friends, quite a day down here on your southern border. Not encouraging from the perspective of border security, but customers and border patrol is doing all they can. We got some calls, we've got some lines late, let's get to it. Kenny in Austin. Good to talk to you, sir, mister Saxton. First of all,

welcome to the great state of Texas. I hope they're treating you very nicely down there. Thank you. It is a great state. Indeed, everyone here is so nice. I mean the mayor in El Paso today, I interview with him this morning. I'm like, this guy's very friendly. Well, I'm glad you're enjoying your time here. Listen, I'm so glad you're covering this illegal immigration story. I just I want to let you know, first of all, I've been in Texas since nineteen eighty. Illegal immigrants have always been

part of the fabric of Texas. It's been not just welcomed, it's appreciated. We understand that they are very much needed in Texas. The problem you're finding, and what you're going to learn here, is that the Democrats changed the rules of immigration when they've created these sanctuary cities. So the border protection the people that were coming in, the values that they held have changed. It's no longer the people coming from nineteen eighty and ninety and two thousand and on.

The rules changed, and so that that's the need for our improvement on our border security. And you know, I've said this argument for money, So Kenny, I have I have some questions, Okay, can ask you some questions for when you say you say that if you should legal immigrants are part of the fabric of Texas, that said, yeah, of course, why are illegal immigrants part of the fabric of Texas or any state for that matter. I mean, why should people be able to violate the law with impunity? Well,

I don't agree with it at all. I mean, you know, I mean, I'm in Austin. I'm hours and hours and hours away from you. I'm I'm literally in Central Texas. Texas is a very, very big state. At Christmas time, I went to Walmart and I never heard English. I mean, I am smack bab in the middle of one of the biggest states in the Union. And it's just the rules have changed and the well, you know, because no, Kennedy,

I think you raise something. And this is what I've started to talk to more and more Democrat members of Congress and different members of the of the Democrat media, and what I've been asking them is do you think illegal immigration is a problem, because I think the answer from the Democrat Party or they won't usually say it. I asked Jay Johnson, this Obama's former DHS secretary, earlier this week, and he kind of said, well, but at the end he goes, yes, no, people should obey our laws.

You know, they don't really mean it though. I mean, because when you say, well, why why is illegal immigration bad? They just say, well, because it's against the law. But why is it against the law? And that's where it starts to break down from them there they don't agree

with or don't know why it's a problem. And that's where someone like me would come along and say, well, first of all, you have the theft of resources that occurs, right because we're all as American citizens paying into a system, or people that are in this country legally, including you know, green card holds. We're paying into this system that government has resources, it disperses those resources to people, whether in

schools or in hospitals and all kinds of things. And if you are present in the country illegally, you're accessing you're just de facto accessing those benefits without the legal right to do so. And then you get into if we don't have control over our border, how do we even have sovereignty? How are we not subject to foreign influence and forces? Do you see what I'm saying? How is that? How is that the case? I absolutely see

what you're saying. And there's a reason why Nancy Pelosi still has a wall on her southern border in California because the illegal immigration is a problem. And I will quit asking and demanding for our protection in Texas when Nancy Pelosi pulls her walls down. I mean it just it behooves me. The fact that Nancy Pelosi is the Speaker of the House. She represents every single person in America, and she will not afford the protection for Texas that

she gives her own state. Yeah. No, I'm not a Pelosi fan obviously, But anyway, Kenny, I think, thank you. I thank you for calling in from Austin. I want to get some of her other callers. Brent in New Mexico, Brent, good to have you on, Hey, Buck, shield side, shield side, Brent, what's up? Well, No, I'm in eastern New Mexico, which is where you're at. It's about one hundred and fifty miles from me. But to get to my point, it's so sparsely populated where I'm at that that's the nearest

place I can catch an airport from. So I mean, this is the most metropolitan place within driving distance to me. And you're mentioning how one hundred thousand of these people are being processed and released within forty eight hours, and I started instantly thinking where did they go? And on the interior side, where I'm at one hundred and fifty miles away, which is deserted, like what you're looking at there's a real article, Buck, I mean googled Dexter, New

Mexico the illegal immigrant bus. And last month there were seventy Guatemalans fifteen minutes from my house that they found in a twenty by twelve shed with no air conditioner, nothing, and the coyote that was taken was Waltermalan. So there's something going on on this side to push them wherever they go once they're relieve, because I know these all these people don't have you know, airplane tickets once a gee here, do you know what I'm saying? Oh No,

there's there's a whole system in place, Kenny. In fact, there's an NGO here that operates. Um, I'm trying to go see it myself tomorrow and I'm seeing I'm trying to figure out if they will they're willing to talk to me, because what they do is the ICE. You initially get process with customs and Border Patrol and then they hand over to ICE for just some final processing. ICE does not have the ability to hold family units, so they just process some paperwork and then you get

handed over to the NGO. The NGO provides food, clothing, and assistance with travel with bus fare or maybe plane fare or whatever it is to get you to your sponsor. So people, you know, this is the thing. I'm in el Paso. I talked to the mayor of El Paso this morning, Mayor Margot, and the illegal immigrant problem in al Paso is not particularly acutely acutely felt because they

go all over the country. I mean they're not It's not like they just come into al Paso and they stay here because this is the first place on US soil. They usually already have a destination in mind, whether it's Chicago or Philadelphia or somewhere in California or wherever, and so all they have to do is get into the country and then they have assistance to get to that next step. And look, if people want to argue that all this is fine and good, if Democrats want to

make that case, they should make that case. What they shouldn't do is pretend that they're for border, border security and rule of law. And the border is porous at best. Right now, it's really de facto open border and rule of law is a joke. I mean, people are scamming the system left and right. Tens of thousands of them are pretending that they're asylum seekers when they're not. They're

not asylum. Asylum is a specific thing. They're just saying things that they've been told because we don't have the resources to check out their claims initially, the credible fear standard is very low, and they show up and then they get to go to the rest of the country. So, you know, all, if you want to come into this country, and unless you have a criminal record and that comes up,

I will say that will bar you from entry. But if you want to come into the country otherwise, all if you to show up the southern borders, say that you're scared and you're not from Mexico or Canada, and you're good to go. That's all it takes, my friend, that's all it is. And there's a whole system in place. The cartels are making hundreds of millions of dollars. You know this, this is you're you're watching the erosion of national sovereignty in real time right now. And it is

a huge amount of people. I mean, this is a mass migration that we're talking about a million people. That is a lot of people. I mean a million people migrated into Germany at Angola Merkel from you know from the Middle East at Angola Merkel's invitation, and you know, it caused a lot of political upheaval in Germany because people realize when you when you change the demographics so rapidly in any country, there's going to be political upheaval and and and all kinds of issues that come up

with the state and the administration of services. And you know, we're supposed to a country is really just an idea, Brent. And if you have people that show up and their very first action on US soil is to violate a federal law under that under that idea of a country, I think that's a bad start to the relationship. Well, anyway, obviously you can tell them fired up about this stuff happens that they don't have a sponsor, buck they get released.

They just get released. That's what ends up happening. The system. People have been saying, the immigration system is broke. Yeah, have nowhere to go. Yeah, well we're gonna see Kenny. I mean, I'm sorry, Brent. Rather I think that it's uh, thanks for calling in, Brent from New Mexico not far from where I am. You know that this is not this is not fixable by a wall it's not fixable by demagoguery. We really have to decide as a country do we care who comes into the country or not?

Is it? Does this matter? If it doesn't matter, then we need to accept that. But then if it doesn't matter, also, I don't want to pay federal income taxes. How about that? If anyone can come and go as they please, if it doesn't really make any difference, then well how about you know, I'll come and go as I please to America, and I don't want to pay taxes anymore, because what is the value of my citizenship if anybody can have it?

It's a fair question, isn't it. Or rather, what is the value of my living gear if anybody can show up and stay for as long as they want and leave it, by the way, not pay taxes, not file for taxes, be here illegally. We have a whole separate set of laws for illegal aliens in this country. That's not thought of that way, but that's what really happens. They don't get charged with document fraud, they don't get charged with lyne to government authorities, which is a felony,

which they do all the time. They don't get charged with failing to register, for failure to file taxes. They don't get charged for welfare fraud when they do access benefits or not in tight they just don't. And it's not because they're not breaking the law. You ask any USA assistant US attorney down here, they'd say, that's all we would do is process immigration related crimes. That's all

we would do. We have time for nothing else. I asked border patrol that I said, how much is coming across the border right now in this sect in the way of the drugs. They said, when we have one hundred people surrender at once, our visibility and ability to track down anybody that tries drops down to you know why, basically wide open. We don't know what's coming. And people that say, oh, it all comes to the ports of entry, Yeah, that's because we don't know what's coming. Not at the

ports of entry, at least the ports of entry. You have to have them staff, they're people, they're looking. It's very easy now if you get all a border patrol tied down in one part of one sector trying to deal with little kids who are scared and terrified and hungry and need to be taken care of, and you know there is a humanitarian mission here too, that's what border patrol has to embrace. But who knows what the cartels are doing when when one hand is busy with this,

the other hand's doing something else. Anyway, this is this is what I'm seeing down here, folks. It's it's very bad news. I'm gonna come back to DC and make more noise about it. But because the problem is, Congress has to fix this. Who thinks Congress is going to come together and do something sensible on this. I don't think anyone does. So that's why this is going to continue for all of this year, and it's going to continue into next year, into the election year. And what

are we going to do about this? It requires a fix of legislation. Trump could try to do something v executive order, but it would just get jammed up in the courts right away. Maybe maybe people want to start making the case that violating US immigration laws no big deal. But then you need to start making that case because what's going on right now is just a free for all. It is legal anarchy down here at the border for

all intents and purposes. So dozens hundreds of people were arrested today when I was down here, hundreds of them. They can't they can't even bring the buses fast enough. Just breaking the law left and right, arst ar rest, arrest all over the place. You sing this and is not. I know, it's fun, and we're about to do some drop kicks against the liberal media too, for the continuation of the victory lap over Russia collusion. But you know this is an imminent probleming that we won at least

for now on that. We're not winning on this one. You know, I know people have been saying this week, well, Trump, are we tired of winning? Yet? I'm not tired of winning on this because we are losing at the border. The rule of law is losing. I hope you know some of the people I know in DC you're listening. I'm going to try to get them word too. This has to be dealt with. The President has to focus on this. It's only gonna get bigger and worse than

down the line. We're just gonna have as a mass amnesty. Say goodbye Republican Party. If that happens, You're done. We're done. We become some out of power cute political anachronism. Conservatism. Bye bye, you're finished. That's that's what's at stakes. So I just I hope people understand that we'll be right back. Shift is a bad guy because he knew he was lying. I mean, he's not a dummy head. He knew he was lying, and for a year and a half he'd go on and just lie and lie and leak and

call up CNN and others. He should be forced out of office. He is a disgrace to our country. If Schiff isn't gonna step down, who would step down from their Intel role? I mean, if Adam shifts shifty behavior is not egregious enough that he should not hold the post on the Intelligence Oversight Committee in the House. Is it possible for anybody, anybody do it to warrant that? Are there really going to be no consequences for any politician or member of the media for this massive hoax,

for this attempted coup against the president of the United States? Nothing? I'd like to think that that's not the Meanwhile, Shifty Shift is out there saying that other people they're the naughty ones, they're bad play fifteen. You might say that's all okay. You might say that's just what you need to do to win. But I don't think it's okay. I think it's im moral. I think it's unethical. I think it's unpatriotic. Who you know, he doesn't like when

other people do oppo research. Apparently that's that's a problem for him. I was one of the ones saying, you'll remember this, those of you who've been listening to me for long enough, say, the big crown jewel of the collusion theorist for a while was the whole meeting in Trump Tower. People say, oh, I would have called the

FBI right away. No, you wouldn't. If you're in a political campaign and you're up against the Hillary machine and all of her Democrat allies in the media, and someone says they've got damaging info and Hillary, you're gonna hear them out. That's that's what oppo researches. Just think of

what's what's managed. What the left has managed to do here, okay, is to hire a an opo research firm through a cutout that hires a foreigner, Christopher Steele, to pay a bunch of other foreign subsources that he has no way of assessing the credibility of to pull together a document that we now know was totally bogus and then shop that around to both the media and the intelligence community the FBI at the same time. That is ethical according to the Shifts of the world. But somebody wants to

have him they have bad info on Hillary. Um, that's unethical. I'm sorry. There's no standard there, there's just nonsense. Shift got mad today though, play fourteen, and that is the subject of our hearing today. Mister ambassadors, recognized for your open I will not yield, mister ambassador, all of us that I will say, we think you want to allow us to speak of what we can use your five minutes to speak. You attacked me in your opening statement

and everything. I have not had an optunite to respond at all, especially to your statements of what we think, because no one over here thinks that. No one over here, Mistorney, you are not recognized. You're you're a non writer. Yeah, Shift in the on the hot seat. But what do we find out about Nellie or and the dossier research today? Some very interesting stuff they're coming up. Plus Jesse Smill, I think Brennan's a sick person. I really do. I

believe there's something wrong with him. And I watched for him to come out of the CIA and act that way was so disrespectful to the country and to the CIA and to the position he held. And he was not considered good at what he did when you look at what happened and when it happened, and the money that was spent, the millions and millions on the phony dossier, and then they used the dossier to start things and

there was no truth whatsoever. Was a fraud and paid for by Hill or Clintman, paid for by the Democrats and the DNC. It's hard to believe if you wrote this as a novel, nobody would buy it. Trump is right, It's hard, isn't it. But I'm not done with the victory lap over the obliteration of the Russia collusion delusion. I'm not done with the victory lap and I think

that we can't be done until we achieve justice. And the only way to achieve justice is going to be to find answers and to create some accountability somewhere along the line here. There must be accountability for what was done in the media government figures. My friend Sean Davis over at The Federalist has done a very interesting breakdown of some of the newly released documents from a deposition involving Nellie Or with which you testify beyond closed doors

to Congress. Now now we have some of this has been released, and here are some of the most in Remember Nellie Or is the wife of Bruce Or. Bruce Or is a senior DJ official involved in handling Christopher Steele as a source at DOJ and obviously pushing the collusion theory through the very top wrong of Theirpartment of Justice, which is really the most frightening apparatus in the entire federal government, right, the one that abuse should be stamped

out most vigorously is the DOJ. The only thing that comes close, maybe is the IRS, which has also been weaponized against conservatives. You will remember that under the Obama administration. But they pretended like that was no big deal too. Of course, just so happened to deny the approvals for nonprofit organization in an election year, by the way, when Obama is trying to get re elected, Just just so happened to deny people with patriot remember all that patriot conservative,

Those are bad words. Can't can't give tax exempts to those people. I need to investigate them and intimidate them and frighten them. That's what the That's what the Obama irs did, and it was the Obama DOJ his appointees at CIA, at the Department of Justice, at the FBI, they were the ones that we're trying to take Trump down. Sean Davis writes this of Nellie Or. Nellie Or describes how information the dossier matched her own research, which she gave to Bruce, who gave it to the FBI, even

though her specific wording wasn't in the dossier. Did the FBI DOJ use her info in the Carter Page visa application? Or also admits in these documents Nellie Or, wife of Bruce Ort, she did do research on Carter Page on behalf of Fusion. GPS recall that huge chunks of the dossier were about Page and that dj FBI included allegations from the dossier in the FISA warrant application for Page.

Sean goes on here quote Nellie Or also admits in testimony before House judiciary that GPS told her to dig up dirt on Mike Flynn and Paul Manafort, but not George Papadopoulos. Or says she was also instructed to dig up dirt on Milani at Trump and Donald Trump Junior. This is oppo research of a scorched earth nature by

the wife of a senior DJ employee. She's a left wing partisan folks, and her husband at the Department of Justice used his access to launder her completely bull salacious nonsense all the way up through the intelligence community, and

he get a FISA warrnt off of this. I mean, I was joe around the here with my friend Jesse Kelly on Twitter that I'm gonna have to scratch out that part of my resume that says CIA, and I'm gonna replace it with personal growth, with some international travel, you know, two thousand and five, at two thousand and eleven, No no more CIA. After what's happened here, it's not nearly as impressive sounding to some people as it used to be. Hinder, I understand why, oh Buck, is nellie

Or really a partisan? Are you just assuming that I Have I ever been wrong about that? By the let's be honest him, Have I ever been wrong about that? Of course not. Here's what Sean writes. This is all from the testimony. Nellie Or testified that if she had been asked, she would not have done research against Hillary Clinton that was similar to her research against Trump because

she wanted Clinton twin and wanted Trump to lose. Well, I mean, how much more do we have to know about the way this went down before people realized that this was all corrupt, It was all rotten, was all a disgusting fever swamp dream of people that couldn't handle that Hillary Clinton wasn't going to be the next president.

They just couldn't handle it, or they couldn't handle the prospect of her not being the next president, the thought of Donald Trump winning, which, by the way, is America in some terrible circumstance right now because Trump wont know h The economy is good, things are fine, haven't started any unnecessary wars, economy is strong. Border is not in good shape right now. But I will say that Trump I should give him credit for this. I just saw this.

I mean, I've been at the border all day to day, and the President tweeted out the following This is just a few hours ago, right before I came on air. We have a national emergency at our southern border. The Dems refuse to do what they know is necessary amend our immigration laws. Would immediately solve the problem. Mexico, at the strongest immigration laws in the world, refuses to help with illegal immigration and drugs. So Trump knows, I'm not

saying he's not aware of the problem. He just has to keep the pressure on because Congress needs to start forcing Democrats. You know, at least in the Senate, Mitch McConnell has that forced them to take some votes on this. But Senate Republicans kind of week on immigration now. I don't want to get back on the Immigration Is Show. I know we talked about that a lot the first hour. If you miss that, please go back and listen on the podcast, the Buck Sexton Show, which you can listen

to on iTunes or the iHeart app. I haven't plugged that in a while. So, yeah, we know the Fusion GPS, bad things happened there. We know that the dossier was fake. We know it was used, although hopefully we'll find the full extent of how much it was used in the FIES application, which is an enormous abusive power, abusive discretion by people who should know better, who should have known better, and abuse their authority. Trump is now saying, and I

hope it's true. He told me this months ago. He said, Buck, I'm gonna release at information. I'm going to release defies application, I'm going to release this stuff that we need to get to the bottom of. When it comes to the origins of the Russia clusion investigation, I certainly want to see that happen, but I don't think that that can be all of it. I think that there's got to be more here. Newt Nut had some thoughts on this

about what the investigation should be play clip eleven. Look, I think that there are three big investigations coming out of this. One is the deep state effort to really have a coup data. I mean you had from Obama all the way down. The second investigation is since it's exactly the same people what happened in the effort to

protect Hillary. And the third, frankly, I've been urging the news media to create their own special commission because under freedom of the press, I don't think it's a government function. But I think the New York Times the Washington Post should return their Pulitzer prizes. We ought to have newspeople look at how but how did it get to be this sick? I think Nude's right, but that's never gonna happen. It's never gonna happen. In fact, they're they're still doubling

down on all this. The people who were wrong, they don't accept yet that they were wrong. They're not willing to move on there. They have not decided that they're gonna give up on this one entire there's some dead enders on this issue, not just Adam Schiff. Who else do we have on at the top of the Oh, that's right, Eric Swalwell, another person, I mean, his career unless he can change the narrative here shift Swalwell. Their

political careers. I don't know if they ever fully recover, because while they were useful to the left, they're entirely replaceable. They're not media stars. They don't generate tens of millions of dollars of advertising for you know, far left brands. They don't do that. So their position here is a little shakier. Swollwell is still saying stuff like Trump is a Russian agent? Play nine And do you believe the

president right now has been an agent of the Russians? Yes, I think there's more evidence, yes, And I think all the arrows point in that direction. I haven't seen a single piece of evidence that he's not. So do you still believe that the president is a Russian agent? I think he acts on Russia's behalf, and he puts Russia's interests ahead too often of America's interests. Notice how we won't even say at this point, no, he's not a

Russian agent. He'll say he acts on Russia's behalf, to suggest that, yeah, maybe he is still a Russian agent. That's all he's doing. We heard today that the Muller report is about three hundred or so pages, and everyone's saying, oh my gosh, three hundred pages. They're drawing all these conclusions from that. What did they expect it to be five pages? This investigation has gone on for two years.

Three hundred pages, it's not that much. I think the nine eleven Commission report it was more like five hundred pages. Three hundred pages is not that much. They're saying Barr didn't have time to read it. No, he's a lawyer and he's got a staff, and he had plenty of time to read it. And he also knew the underlying findings. This theory out there that Bar and this coming straight from the collusion dead enders that Barr could misrepresent what's

in that report and get away with that somehow. That is really nuts, because does anyone think that that Bob Muller if the report was being unfairly portrayed, or if the if the key findings were changed, does anybody think that Bob Muller would be silent on this one? I don't ridiculous point of view, Absolutely ridiculous. James Comey is a person who has done more damage to the reputation.

I don't know who's done more damage to their respective institution Comey at the FBI or Brennan at the CIA, but both of them have really harmed the organizations that they served for a very long time. They have really really done damage. Komey apparently thinks that he doesn't understand what's going on here. He can't even really process his

playclip one jump. Yeah, I sat down with President Trump, he says, when I decided to just do it talking about firing you, I said to myself, I said, you know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made up story. What did you think when you heard that? I thought that's potentially obstruction of justice, and I hope somebody is going to look at that Again, the president appears to be saying. What he appears to be saying is I got rid of this guy to shut down

an investigation that threatened me. But it didn't shut down the investigation, did it. Komey didn't shut it down at all? So how is that obstruct And oh, by the way, the investigation, you jerk, was of a lie. It was an investigation that never should have happened in the first place. I mean, this really is the Soviet approach do investigations here in America by law enforcement. We're gonna concoct some cockamami scheme. We're gonna then throw all of our resources

at you. And if you object, if you say this isn't fair, then you're guilty because you're obstructing our crazy investigation. That's what you're dealing with with these people. No honor, no integrity, no decency. Here's the piece on I call it for the wrong on John, play too, because here's the piece on Komey's confusion over how this whole process

is supposed to work. Play too. But will you convince in your mind that there was a strong possibility that this campaign, this presidential candidate at the time was colluding with Russia. I really didn't know there was smoke, and enough smoke to justify investigating. What are your questions? But the obstruction piece confuses me. The purpose of a special counsel is to make sure that the politicals in this case, the attorney general doesn't make the ultimate call. But Mueller

didn't make the call to bring charges. So what is he talking about? Mother, We're going to prosecute. So if you don't prosecute, that's not prosecuting comy. You know, these people were all rooting against Trump. They were all dishonest in this process, all right, So I want to get the Jesse Smallllett thing. I don't know how. I don't know how this has gotten even crazier. I had to read through a few times today the latest on the Jesse Smalllett fiasco, because I was like, I must this

can't be sourced proper, This can't be right. He's not really telling us that he may be thought that the two Nigerian brothers that beat him up were actually this is this is in the reporting. I'm just telling you it's in the reporting. Don't blame me. He couldn't have actually thought that they were white guys wearing maga hats. That's not possible, right, He didn't really say that. I mean, we know it's not actually possible, But he didn't make

that claim, did he. Oh? Yes, his lawyers, his lawyer claim on his behalf. We we will get into that and more coming up. We have had to make tough calls on cases throughout my entire tenure. It is fair to say that the police Department is not happy on every decision that we make. I talked to Superintendent Johnson this morning. He understand and appreciates that this was a Class four felony and that although we deal with this every day, the surrounding narrative around it is different than

how we treat any other case. She can try as much as she wants. That's Kim Fox, the prosecutor that made the Jesse Smollett hoax, and any penalty for it just evaporate into thin hair. She can try as much as she wants to justify this, but she's now under investigation, herself going to be under investigation shortly. That's going to happen. What she did is unbelievably unethical. Obviously a case of connections and political bias. Intruding on prosecutorial judgment, and it's

it's truly shameful. She now has had to admit that she did not recuse herself actually, but has had her office say that she colloquially recused herself, which is not a thing, Miss Fox. You either recuse or you don't recuse. It is go or no go. There is not some other option by giving the case to somebody else in her office but still maintaining the ability to make decisions

about the case. All that means is that when she's at the watercooler and she sees, you know, Maggots, who's the guy who actually made the call, she says, you know what, we gotta make this go away for Jessie, And no one knows. Oh, but Maggots made the or Magots or however you say his name, miss Magots, I don't know. Maybe that's I don't know how you say his name. But she said she recused herself, and she didn't.

She lied. I mean, I don't even know if she's going to keep her law license at the end of this, I just want to say I think she's and she should be in a whole lot of trouble because not only did Jess escape Jesse, who was very tied in with elite Chicago democrats. I mean, this guy is connected folks, connected with Michelle Obama, connected with a whole bunch of

people at the very top of the power pyramid. And not only did he escape justice, but he is now going around acting like he is the aggrieved party, talking about maybe even suing the city. City Chicago's demanding one hundred and twenty thousand dollars from him to pay for the cost of the investigation into his hoax. At a minimum, he should be made to do that if he's not going to face any real criminal penalties. But he's taken

it to a whole, a whole next level. This is one of these stories that I had to read a few times to make sure that I wasn't I wasn't missing something. But this is the headline. Smallett's lawyers say Nigerian brothers may have worn white face during during attack. That's right, Jesse Smallett now wants to to make his story sound not quite as crazy. He is saying that two Nigerian brothers that he is friends with wore white face when they attacked him, and that's why he didn't

know who they were. This is completely insane. Was Jesse Smallott guilty? Jesse's my life had not been found guilty by a court of law. We believe that the facts were sufficient to charge and try us to Smalllett for the crimes. Do you consider him guilty? He had not had his He chose this alternative prosecution method. His court has not found him guilty. I believe, based on the facts and the evidence that was presented in the charging decision made by this office, this office believed that they

could prove him guilty. Do you think that he's culpable of falsifying a police report? I think this office, based on those charging decisions, believe that he is culpable of doing that. I mean, like, what, what? What is she even talking about? He chose his alternative prosecution? Can I you know, if I ever get a legal troubles, I got to say, held on a second, I'm I'm gonna choose the alternative of the grand jury charges just go away magically and no one gets to see what the

evidence was, or what happened or anything. That sounds great. I don't think that's a normal alternative. Oh man, this is not how this works. This is not how this works. You do not, as a prosecutor, allows somebody who is as guilty as a person could ever possibly be, based on everything that we know, to walk away self righteously from your mercy. Oh keep in mind, folks, a prosecutor could say if they do, if they want to defer prosecution, or if they just want to not bring charges, they

can change their minds. So why doesn't miss Fox here change her mind and actually bring those charges. Charges are dropped, That doesn't there's no double jeopardy here. She could bring them back up again. She's boxed herself in here. There's no real explanation for this, although, my friend, I mean, we know what the explanation is. Jesse Smallet's connected. And there are people that you know on the Democrat left that really just don't want to see someone like Jesse

suffer more. They think it's mean that Jesse has to suffer more. The same people I would note who have no problem with ruining General Flynn's career putting a felony on his record for an in the moment perjury trap that I'm not even sure was really perjury based on all the facts we know, there the people that think that, you know, Roger Stone should rot in prison for a few years because he lied about trivialities at worst to

the Special Council. Those people think that Jesse Smollet's entire hoax in Chicago that cost over one hundred thousand dollars to the city basically stole one hundred thousand dollars from the taxpayers in the city of Chicago or the state of Illinois. They want, they want to say that this

whole thing they're telling us, this means nothing. Jesse Smollet's lawyers claiming that two Nigerian brothers that he worked with wore white face and that's why he didn't know who they were when he attacked them, that he maybe really thought they were white. How stupid are they going to pretend they think all of us are. I don't think there's any limit to it. I don't think there's any point at which they go no, no, no. That is, in fact too dumb for us to present as a

possible option. Here. Here, here's Martin Pribe, who is you know, he's speaking for the people's Chicago or Playcliff twenty two. It seems to be something very, very dark and suspicious that they would go to this length to just drop a case and endure all this national outrage over it. The police treated him as a victim, long after a lot of media outlets were describing the glaring holes in his narrative. They put their entire they look. He claimed

he was a victim of a hate crime. The police did their their part and they investigated it as a hate crime, as the police should. Hate crimes are outrageous. They put superb investigators who painstakingly looked at every single detail of evidence that they could find, and they presented their case based upon the evidence. And to make us statements like that is totally outrageous. Eternal order of police wants or investig wants Fox investigated for this. The charges

should be brought against Trusty Small. I mean, look, I think that the federal prosecutor should step in and just say, all right, look, we got you on mail fraud. You're gonna say, you know, we can either prosecute this or you can just take a plea. But you're going on the record for being a liar. You're going on the record for being a fraud and a hoaxter and a fake. You're you're not gonna use this to benefit your career.

I just saw today. I think this can't be. Let me make sure this is true before I tell you this one, because I saw this and I should have checked it out right away. Wow, it's true. Jesse Small Today was nominated for an NAACP Award. I mean, come on, come on, really nominated for an NAACP award. That can't be. It's that's USA Today reported this just hours ago. I can't, I don't. I don't even know what to say. Why

is this? Is this like a version of the left with its obsession with intersectional politics and minorities and the oppression of minorities and the impression of the LGBTQ community. Is this is this supposed to be a kind of gas lighting of America, Like we're gonna back this guy even though he's completely in the wrong, just because just because we like Jesse, we support Jesse no matter what, no matter what. I guess I can't even begin to explain.

You know, I have a particular interest in this because I was one the people on this show very early on who was saying this guy's a liar and he is, and he and some journalists when they initially drop the charges were so stupid that they actually came at me like, see, you were wrong. All people are so dumb in the media. Oh my gosh, I would say, learn to code, but they'll never be able to learn to code because they're

not even smart enough to learn to think. And here we are, Oh, this is this is the situation with Jesse Smollett man. He is he is shameless at a level that I was gonna say, you know, I can't respect it, but there's a part of you that wants to almost say, Wow, this guy is indefatigable in his dishonesty. I mean, he will not stop, no apologies, never apologize. He's got Kim Fox catching his back. She should look she should be sparred. I really believe that. I mean

that that would be. She should be disbarred and he should be prosecutor. That's what should happen here now. No Jesse Smallen, in case you didn't think he was enough of a dirt bag, enough of a bad guy, um you know he is. Uh. He is now claiming that the Nigerian Brothers, that the Nigerian Brothers should be like looked at more in prosecutor he's throwing them under the bus. The guys that he paid to, I mean, I don't know.

I mean, if they he paid them to, like fake beat him up, I don't know why if that's a crime. I mean, maybe you could say they're part of the conspiracy. But he's trying to get people. He's trying to get them in trouble. Yeah, look at those guys, they're the real problem this guy is. Oh, he's such a disgrace. All right, So we were updated on Jesse Small, but this is not This isn't going away, folks. We're gonna have to keep keep fighting on this one because they

there needs to be accountability on this. There needs to be a reckoning for just see, he needs he needs to be forced to say on the record that he is a he is a liar, that this was all a faith this is all a hoax, and that you know, a hoax. Hate crimes need to be prosecuted. Laws to the lies rather to the authorities that are in violation of law need to be prosecuted. You know, the thing that makes people lose faith in the justice system the

fastest is double standards. When when you cannot trust that the law is going to be applied equally to all people. Then then then it's no longer about justice. Then it's just a system for political power to be wielded against some for some at the expense of the other. That's all it is. And we've been seeing that time and again. Show me the prominent Republican who's gotten some great, you know, sweetheart deal recently because of his position in their Republican party.

I cannot. I can think of the opposite happening all the time. And show me Democrats, plenty of Democrats, Hilary Clinton, hello, best example of it, who know that they are effectively above the law. This is this is egregious. This needs to stop. It is wrong in so many ways, on so many levels. I certainly hope we can get some some justice here, somehow, some way. All right, team we uh, we're gonna talk about Democrat candidates coming up here, Corey Booker,

Joe Biden, some more thoughts from down here. I almost said the landown under that's a that's a different that's a different place, that's not out passo down by the borders. I'm not not the landown under. I have not seen any koalas by the border that has not happened, although that would be I mean, would it meant that somebody slips some slips some payote instead of mescal and my margarita, which wouldn't be a good thing. Do you smoke payote? I don't think you'd drink it. You know you drink it,

you smoke it. I don't know. I'm a good boy. I don't do any drugs. We'll be right back if I am your president. We are going to bring the fight to the NRA who wants to represent corporate gun owners, corporate gun corporations, manufacturers, more than they want to represent the people. Because this is what they're doing to Americans. They are defending loopholes like that loophole that if a man is convicted of beating his wife, he can find a loophole to go out and buy a gun and

murder her. They are defending not their membership, but loopholes like the loophole that says that someone on the terrorists no fly list in our country can still go to a gun show and buy weapons, or that somebody that's convicted of a violent crime can still find a loophole to go and buy a weapon. Everything that Corey Booker, Democrat presidential aspirant, right, one of the Democrats vying for

the nomination. Everything Corey Booker said there is not true. Basically, I think I think you could actually break down every statement he made. All of it is is a factual falsehood. Lie lie, lie lie. On CNN of course, not that they really care. They're like, yeah, he hates guns, he's one of the good people. Everything he says is not true. Where are the fact checkers? Where are the scathing editorials in the front page the Washington Post or the or

you know, forget the editorials. Where are the fact checkers in the wine and where the pinocchios for Corey Booker on the lies about what the laws are when it comes to guns in this country? Does anybody care? Is Corey Booker allowed to just say whatever he wants about anything? I mean, that stuff is entirely false, not even close to true. But everyone there in that audience, yeah, really wants to get rid of guns. It's just virtue signaling, folks.

It's it's not possible that the Democrats are as dumb as they pretend to be on some of these issues, whether it's guns or climate change or any any number of major policy initiatives that they discussed but never want to enact. You know, we want to talk about guns and we want to stop guns, and okay, do you do you want to ban Do you're gonna ban assault rifles? You want to do that? Can you get all the Democrats on board for that in the House too, everybody's

on board for this, send it to yeah. No, oh oh, you mean you have Democrats in some states where they won't. But I thought this is all about saving saving the lives of children. The only way the Democrats want to save the lives of children apparently is to ban guns, which will save almost no children's lives. But they don't want to save lives by defunding planned parent It isn't that interesting. No interest in actually taking any action there.

But Corey Booker is in a very privileged position. He has a Democrat who is in serious contention for the Democratic nomination, which means that he is going to receive special treatment. They are going to make sure that his path is not strewn with any particularly onerous challenges along

the way. They want to make sure that, you know, they do everything in their power to hold him up, and they want to prevent there from being any particular stumbling on policy or anything else until they know who they're because they're not sure. You see, last time it was Hillary. Last time, they knew that anything that was pro Hillary was good, anything including Bernie. What do you mean to throw me on a bus? Not again including Bernie? That was bad, right, Bernie for the media was bad

because they were so sure about Hillary. This time around, the Democrats aren't really united behind a single candidate, which means that they have to kind of spread around their propaganda efforts. They got to share the Democrat love a little bit here, you know, make sure that they kind of create these different narrators. You know, I'm down here in in Beto country and right here in El Paso, Texas, and he's very he's a very well known guide out here. Obviously.

I still think that Buddha Jedge, I hope I'm saying it right. I still think that Budda Jedge, though, has a real lane to kind of be the the better bedo, the better, the better bedo. I like that that. I think that could happen because it's just not enough Beto Rourke. Yeah, he's got the celebrity and he's got the flash and the sizzle and all that stuff. But oh, I don't know, do you do you need any substance to be Democrat

running for office? Now, look at Ocazio Cortez says the craziest and what the crazier things that she says, the more angry she gets when people call it, you know, crazy, right, and then she says something even wackier. You know, give it a few days. This isn't even wackier. You know, I'm the boss. You're not the boss. I'm the boss. That was my favorite. No, No, you're a freshman member

of Congress. There's hundreds of you. You're not actually the boss that Democrats are so lacking in charisma and new ideas and solutions that the American people would sign on for. You know, I know they're gonna talk about medicare. Medicare for all is great. So is free chocolate cake that you can eat endless amounts of that never disappears. There's enough for everybody and won't make you fat. That's awesome too.

It doesn't exist Medicare for all. That wouldn't destroy the budget, that wouldn't result in a fifty percent increase maybe more in your taxes. That sounds great, that's not reality. But if you point out that it's not reality, she just gets more angry and the press runs cover for her. If you point out to Corey Booker that everything that he said in his little gun speech there was just

emotionally laiden nonsense which just factual falsehood, untrue. Why are you why don't you want to do more to save the children? You know, everyone gets all upset. Why aren't you being nicer to Spartacus? Because I think that people should be held to account. And look look at what they put Trump throwing his way to the nomination. They weren't just seeking always remember this, they were not just seeking to defeat Trump at the polls. They wanted him destroyed.

They wanted his life ruined. They were investigating his family, they were digging up dirt on his wife. I mean, they were doing everything that they could. And it wasn't just for political purposes. It was to destroy his businesses, to destroy his livelihood. That's what we're up against with the opposition. Folks, do not forget it for a second, which brings made a Biden who was out there speaking of saying nonsense and stupid things always room for a

Biden conversation when that's on the menu. We will get into all of that coming up here in just a couple of minutes. Team, stay with me. A really notable woman, Anita Hill, Professor, showed the courage of a lifetime talking about her experience being her ass by Clarence Thomas. But she paid a terrible price. She was abused through the hearing she's taking advantage of. But I also realized there

was a real and perceived problem the committee faced. There are a bunch of white guys, no I mean sincerely, a bunch of white guys hearing hearing this testimony and the Senate you just shared committee. So when Anita Hill, when Anita Hill came to testify, she faced a committee that didn't fully understand what the hell is all about. To this day, I regret I couldn't come up with a way to get her a kind of hearing she deserved, given the courage she showed by reaching out to us.

Joe Biden is an intellectually bankrupt fraud. I want I want us to all be very clear about that. That is my pauson. Joe Biden does not have any principles. He is the classic slimy, change your position, say what you have to say in the moment, only aginist politician. He is v prototype when people think of a politician in this country, someone who just you know, has the big grin, shakes the hands, kisses the babies, smiles and says what he have whatever he has to say at

any moment. That's that's Joe Biden. And I think that this latest stuff you're hearing from Biden, who is not yet running, but he's still considered and most pulling the front runner among the Democrats, which should just shock everybody. I mean, that's Joe Biden. That's your answer. This is this is gonna give us a fresh look at America. This is somebody who Guy couldn't get one percent of the vote when he ran before, but because he was

Obama's VP, now he should be president. Guy didn't do anything. He played this is true. He played more golf than Obama did when he was vice president. And I know people that spent a lot of time around Biden during those years and they were none too fond of him and did not find him president. I will say, just because I'm a fair minded person, the people that I know that's a lot of time around. Biden said that his wife, Doctor Biden, is lovely and very nice. So

at least he did well there. But Joe Biden is exactly what you're hearing in this in this sound bite. You know, now he's trying to do the whole Oh you know, I I should have done more. You know. Now he's Joe Biden, the social justice warrior in retrospect for Anita Hill. Now I have to ask, what is

he really trying to say here? You know, what do you mean, Joe Biden, when when he says that, you know, it was a bunch of white guys that we're questioning Anita Hill during those Supreme Court nominee hearings, what would be the you know, let me just take his premise seriously that we don't just live in a society where adults speak to adults and situations like that irrespective of their skin color or their gender, right which which that's what I believe, that you just speak to people as

fellow adults, human beings, Americans, US citizens, that we just speak to each other. It's not well, my skin color is this, Your skin color is that? So that should factor into whether I get to ask questions or you get to answer them. But let's just put that aside.

Let's take Joe Biden's premise here seriously, which is that there's something inherently wrong, because that's what he's suggesting with Anita Hill, who, by the way, was accusing a black man, not a white guy, a black man of sexual harassment, even though she followed him around and wanted to work with them for years and years, accusing him sexual harassment. And he says that she was abused during the hearings.

I don't know how by people asking her questions about her allegations is cross examining now of a witness to be abused. Because if that's the case, our whole criminal justice system falls apart. If you're not allowed to have people ask you questions to test the veracity of claims, then anyone can make any claims they want under and weaponize them without any hope of a real defense for

the accused. But let's go back to Biden's basic premise here that because there were white Remember this is back during the Justice Clarence Thomas hearings for whether he'd be on the Supreme Court. It was very contentious. People will say that, oh, you know, she had nothing to gain. Do you hear this about Blasi for too? That's a lie, all right. They've had movies and they cast the most you know, the most illustrious and appealing woman in Hollywood

possible to play, Anita Hill. And you know she's she's institutes and speeches, and you know, she says, she's a beloved figure, treated like a hero on the left for trying to take down a guy for making essentially some inappropriate jokes and asking her out a few times, according to her so and then of course she followed him around and everything else, I mean, followed him around in terms of her career. She didn't seem to want to get away from this guy, despite her saying that he

was sexually harassing her. And Biden then says, well, she had white guy's question. So what's the answer, though, I mean, this is why I say Biden is intellectually bankrupt. What's supposed to happen? Would one black senator on the committee have been sufficient? Or would that be a form of tokenism? Would that be just for appearance's sake window dressing on that committee? Would it be only would it be only black members of the Senate. Who would be allowed to

question her? Should they bring in somebody like they did with Blasi Ford who is of African American background in order to question and would it have to be an African American female? I mean, I really, you know, what would be acceptable? He's bashing the optics of that hearing because there were white members of the United States Senate who were men asking need to hill questions. So what should have been the case? What would have been fair? No one gets to ask her question? I mean, do

they have an answer to this? I would wonder, Oh, they'd say, oh, well, Buck, But that's because we don't have enough diversity in the Senate. Okay, But if we didn't have enough diversity in the Senate, then we still had Senate proceedings going on. What are we supposed to do? Not have the hearings? But you see that Biden is just trying to what is essentially an emotional appeal to seem like he's woke Biden. Here, he's social justice Biden. He gets it, man, he's you know, understands the cause.

Now he signed him up for like huff Post, he could live in Brooklyn and tweet about how intersectional he is and all this stuff because Biden knows that he's old, he's out of touch, he's out of date, and not exactly exciting as a candidate. But then he also got into a little more about this. I didn't even know what this was. Playclip five. The Court of common law decided they had to do something about the extent of

the death. So you know what they said, no man has a right to chastise his woman with a rod thicker than the circumference of his thumb. This is English, Jurish financial culture, a white man's culture that's got to change. It's got to change. Notice how Joe Biden, who I will say this is every bit as white as any other white guy of ever. He might be the most white white guy you could ever find. I mean he is at he is at a white guy level speaking as a white guy. That I think is you know,

right right at the top of the list. Right. There's nothing particularly non white about Joe Biden, And here he is talking about the white man's culture and how it has to change. First of all, his rule of thumb story is not even true. So but you know this is this is like when you have people who bash this is like Corey Booker bashing gun laws, just making stuff up, just just fabricating stuff wholesale, just making it up as he goes along. And it doesn't matter though,

because it's for the cause. Joe Biden making up this this rule of thumb story, it's it's all I know. This, This is a this is an apocryphal that it's about the you know, the the the width of the thumb for the rod to beat women with um. But that the white man's culture is holding us back. What are people to make of that statement? I mean, it's a moronic thing to say. It's a moronic thing to say because it's so breaft of any thought at all. What does that mean a white man, white man's culture is

holding us back? How what is white man's culture? And what does he think people when he uses that phrase are taking away from it. It's just such a stupid thing to say. But Joe Biden has been propped up by people for so long because he's just the consummate politician who says he after whatever he has to say in the moment, they cover up for his kind of dumb, you know, off script comments. It's like, oh, it's just

Joe being Joe. No, and the guy's at buffoon, a buffoon who's been wrong, by the way, on every major foreign policy issue it's supposed to be his area. He's been wrong on every major foreign policy issue stretching back into the early nineties. Biden is wrong, wrong, wrong, and now he's trying to be something he's not. And it's just unseemly and kind of pathetic. And this is the best the Democrats have to offer. This is their number

one contender. Kyle talks about getting rid of white man culture. Who's the whitest white man you could ever find. Makes no sense, and it puts healthcare for millions of Americans in some level of uncertainty and also jeopardy. What would happen, I mean, what would happen? What would millions of Americans lose? So it's just to be clear, Republicans do not have a plan to replace about mccare. The fate of healthcare for more than twenty million Americans insured through Obamacare and

Medicaid expansion hangs in the balance. As of this moment, Republicans have not offered a single new alternative to Obamacare. Some people characterizing this as a gift to Nancy Pelosi going into this next twenty twenty election. We get rid of Obamacare, says the Trump administration. Okay, so what's the plan to replace it? We don't know, says the Trump administration. Simply repealing Obamacare without Republicans coalascing behind an alternative would

throw the healthcare system into chaos. That is laughable. You read my mind. I wanted to get your respondent to the president saying that that we will have a plan laughable, noted ha CNN. Oh, there's such serious journals over at CNN, aren't they After perpetuating a fraud for two years? Collusion with Russia? Oh the collusion. Please, after all of that nonsense for two years now, they can't keep that one

going at least in the meantime. And so what they've done is there they go from trashing Trump on collusion that didn't exist, that was the main state, and now all they're trashing amount of healthcare. Let's just start with this. They've got a false premise going, my friends. And the premise is this that you have to come up with an alternative to Obamacare, when what most people would say is how about just get rid of how about the

healthcare system before Obamacare came along. Obamacare didn't make things better. It did not improve the healthcare system. It has made it more expensive. It has for some people been worse. For some people, it is better. That is true in the individual exchange for some people that are affected by previousing conditions, which true preexisting conditions that would price you out of the healthcare market are that's a very small

percentage of the population. Should have been dealt with by Republicans. That is on them. That is a miss. But the way that they present this issue, the way that CNN and the various Libs, the Democrats, the way that they try to they try to make it sound like, oh, Obamacare is this thing that you have to come up with just a better version of Obamacare, when no, there could have just been fixes to the healthcare system made without trying to put us on a pathway to socialized medicine,

which is what Obamacare is. Right, It goes Obamacare to Medicare for all, to single payer, which will also then lead to socialized medicine. That's the pathway, that's the transition. Those are the stages we've already gone into Obamacare. Now we're going to Medicare for all, which is not really a single payer program, right, But then then we'll get to single payer because medicare has cost sharing. Medicare it doesn't cover everything, and it has cost sharing mechanism, so

you do have to pay some for Medicare. But then they're gonna say, well, that's not enough. Then we need single payer, which just means the government pays for everything. And then when they do that, they're going to say the only way to have the necessary efficiencies in the system will be if there is a government control of the healthcare market overall of the healthcare delivery system, I mean overall, So that that's where this is all heading, and I think we should at least we should be

clear about this. But I meanwhile, you know, the left likes to just be snide and act like they've got this all figured out. They leave behind in this conversation that Obamacare was not nearly the success that they pretended it would be. In fact, it dramatically underperformed by their own metrics, And it's really just a vast expansion of Medicaid. That's what Obamacare has become. It is an expansion of the Medicaid program, and then it has these in the

individual markets, these call sharing mechanisms. The reason it didn't go into the employer provided market is because that is popular enough enough people like that that they knew that politically that was a non starter. Remember they were going to tax Cadillac plans and there was all this stuff that was supposed to happen to the Obamacare law, and

they said, no, we're not going to do that. And yet bro Cuomo and Monsieur Don Lament, Bonjean, Monsieur Don Lament, you do not know very much, but you sound like Monsieur Don Lament. So that's all. Also known as Don Lemon. I just like saying his name, and people make fun of my name. All In fact, Don Lemon has made fun of my name. If you want to know Don Lemon first time I ever did the show Buck Sexton porn star name. That's what he said. I said, Don, you are every bit as clever as I thought you

were before I sat down on your set. So there we have it. Play clip four. Our president said today that the GOP will be known as the Party of Healthcare, but it seems to me he left out a word based on his administration's latest move with the ACA, the President will make his party about removing healthcare. This president and party have no plan to provide care to tens of millions if the ACA is gone. Why why? Why? Welcome to the new normal? The President says the GOP

is going to be the party of healthcare. Then why is his Justice Department saying the Affordable Care Act should be struck down? The President has said again and again that he wanted to protect pre existing conditions. Is this another yet another lie from the President? Does bro Cuomo want to know if they're going to cover a weight? Gaina? And like, you know, my latest creatine formula, I don't know.

We'd have to ask bro Cuomo about that one. They're condemning him on healthcare without even knowing what he's going to say. Should Obviously, Obamacare is not going to get repealed tomorrow. We all know this, so there's no imminent danger of an Obamacare repeal. But he's trying to start to make the public case, and what they're doing is criticizing him without even knowing what the case is the President Trump plans to make. This is just pure propaganda, folks.

This is just my team good your team, bad stuff from CNN, which I don't expect anything more from them than that. I mean, come on, these are the same people that brought you Russia collusion for two years. But we should at least call it for what it is. We should know that that's what's going on. They're criticizing something before. They're saying that Trump's cooking isn't isn't good and he hasn't even left the kitchen yet. You know, he hasn't even brought it out. Oh but his food

isn't good. There's there's so much here to pull apart. And I just I know that what we're going to be in the midst of going into this election, which is going to church right now, is the lull, especially because Liberals are running, not running scared, but they're they're laying a little low this week. Most of them, they know that Russia collusion was an embarrassment for any for anybody who has principles or any decency in the media, what they've done for the last two years is an

utter and complete embarrassment. But most of them don't have principles. Most of them don't really care. They would rather just pull the mat out and get the benefit of the upside of doing that, get the benefit of big ratings for two years, and then just you know, hope their audience forgets because ultimately it was all for the cause. Man connect the coast to have a few laughs. It was all for the cause. So that was what they decided to do. But bro Cuomo donement. They already had

their marching orders here. Slam Trump on healthcare. Doesn't matter what he wants to do, doesn't matter what he suggests, what he recommends. Slam Trump on healthcare. We'll be right back. Let's not I be the one who cast the first stone about getting irritable on an airplane. But this story, this one, this one caught my eye today. You have a woman who is being referred to on Fox as the worst airline passenger as a meltdown over not being served pepsi? Do they try to serve her a coke instead?

A drunk woman on board a tap flight just really wanted a pepsi? According to Fox, here the unidentified Spanish woman became belligerent. It's a great word. I love that word. You know that after boarding the Malaga bound flight in Portugal. According to the outlet, Shortly after the woman board of the hour and a half flight, she began taking shots from a hip flask while demanding cruiser of her a pepsi.

When attendance informed her they would only be serving fruit juice on the flight, she became outraged and began and began screaming at the crew in Spanish. She got out of the seat. Her face was bright red, her hands turned into claws. She looked like a demon. El Diablo. She was the worst passenger I've ever seen on an airline, and I fly quite a lot. According to the Daily Mail, oh Man, then she was apparently very inebriated. This lady was out of control. She was drunk, she was aggressive,

she was chucking food. Oh man. She was yelling and yelling in Spanish apparently. Okay, well, I just bring this up because yesterday on my flight down here to El Paso, we sat on the tarmac for about forty minutes, and then we were told that it was because of a paperwork delay. Now, I understand that sometimes there's safety checks and procedures, and there's weather, and you know, there are things that, while frustrating, you have to just kind of accept.

Are you know, as the price of flying, right, there are some things that you just have to say to yourself, you know what. I understand that that can happen, right, the airlines can't control the weather, and if there's a real mechanical failure and they've got a dominiance, I get that.

I want to say flight just like everybody else. But when you have a couple of hundred people who are sitting in uncomfortable chairs, except for the fancy first class people, when I fly for a business eye fly coach my friends, that tells you all you need to know. But we're sitting there for a couple of hours, or sorry for forty minutes, rather not a couple hours waiting for It would have been a better story if it was a couple hours. But then they have to touch back to

the gate. But if it's a paperwork failure, I feel like that's unacceptable. And I always like to remind everybody that if you ever want a feeling of what it would be like to live in a totalitarian state, all you really have to do, all you really have to figure out is you know, what's it like to be on an airplane where you are being held effectively against your will? Right? I mean, you can't just get up and say I'm out of here, I'm done. It's uncomfortable.

Nobody will explain anything to you. Nobody feels the need to really make you feel better. You're just supposed to sit there, shut up and deal with their incompetence because airlines do a lot of incompetent stuff. That's just what happens there. They're unfortunately all these regulations and it's all very geared toward the airline. Somehow we can't figure out this.

I can. I have more computing power in my hand as I do this show than all of the advanced countries of the world, did you know, sixty or seventy years ago put together. But we haven't been able to figure out how to put people on an airplane and not treat them like they're getting a special exam from the Stazi. You know, I think we could do better as a country. I don't know. People, I know you're

gonna say, Buck, maybe you can fly private. Now, this doesn't mean that you can turn your hands into claws and turn into El Diablo and start throwing start throwing things at people and completely freaking out. You know, the demon, the demon style outrage or or or just freak out that we apparently missed on this the Spanish airline's flight. But you know, it does mean that sometimes it feels like when you have no recourse and your subject endless

amounts of frustration. That's what it would be like to live in a country that's not capitalist, where there is no penalty for the bureaucracy and the people around you failing you all the time, where your suffering does not matter. In fact, you're supposed to suffer in silence. So in that sense, I feel like airlines are very instructive. It is your little window into a totalitarian or at least authoritarian society. Excuse excuse you this connect it up to

go to the bathroom. No, because there's a one in a billion chance that while the plane is actually on the tarmac that maybe a comet will strike the tarmac and will flip the plane over and you will survive only because this really very worn out seatbelt that's you know, way too big for you is going to be around. I mean, please, but this is the kind of stuff you deal with. This is really just my anxiety I'm sharing with you about having to fly again tomorrow. Connecting

flight too. That's always fun. Oh gosh, so airline travel folks. Whoever figures it out and makes it better, whoever makes airlines accountable and stop stinking so much, they would be I think my favorite person, maybe only second to robocall ending. Whoever ends the robocallers, that would be amazing. Apparently FCC, by the way, has created huge finds that they never end up collecting, so that's not acceptable. Maybe that's a

story we'll have to hit for another time. But now I've got I've got a roll call coming to you up next, So stick around team like soft butter on warm toast. Time to spread some freedom coast to coast. It's time for roll call. Indeed, roll call time, everybody from El Paso, Texas down here at the iHeart station in El Paso, which is a whole bunch of fun. Very much enjoy being down here. Al Paso is nice

and warm today. And apparently I have been told that next door Warez, which is also known for some other stuff, but next Door Warez is allegedly the home of the original home of the Margharita, So there is that. I will tell you that I recognize that a margharita is calorically and metabolically probably not the greatest thing to be fond of. But man, a really good smokey mescal margarita with some salt on the rim. I could taste it right now, and I'm gonna tell you that's where I'm

going as soon as this show is done. You could say I'm going to Margaritaville, except on the US side of the border. I don't think I'm going to wander into the RS side today. I don't think I'm gonna do that. It did not bring my passport, so I think this time around I'm gonna have to pass on that. But it has been a fascinating day down here, and I'm always glad to get some time with the men and women a border patrol and to get some ground

truth on what's going on here. All right, First up on Roll Call Patrick, remember Facebook dot com slash buck Sex, then if you want to be a part of Roll Call Buck, Greetings from the Buckmobile and the great state of Connecticut. Just to touch on your recent comments about racism, I was a defense contractor in Kuwait for three tours. Never have I witnessed such blatant racism toward TCNs and ex pats at the hands of the kuwaitis they didn't have to fake a hate crime like Jussie because it

happened on a daily basis. But I digress. You should get together with Shapiro and do a show completely with your imitation. He does the best Bernie Sanders impression i've heard. Keep up the solid work. You're doing great, oss Selly. I don't know. I think my Bernie's better. I'll be honest with you if we're really just gonna go there, But I've heard Ben's Bernie. Look, Ben's Bernie is solid. I'm I'm not saying it's not a very solid Bernie impersonation.

It is, but I prefer my own Bernie. What I really want to know is, does Shapiro have a Betto impersonation, like where everyone is just so earnest and they just want to hold hands and talk about like how they're gonna make the future so much better. Um. I want to know if he's got a Betto. But now, Ben's Burnie is solid, no, no doubt about it. My Bernie's better, but Ben is Ben is good, no question. Um, let's see we have uh oh, this one is a link that I can't read on Eric, I can't open it

right now. Peter, hey Buck, it's well past time that President Trunk invokes Did I say Trunk? President Trump invokes i NA Section two one to F and declares asylum

seekers and illegal immigrants inadmissible. The text of twenty twelve F states, whenever the President finds that the entry of an alien or any class of aliens in the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may buy proclamation and for such period as he deems necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or non immigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem appropriate.

Shields High Pete up in Michigan. Well, Pete, this is what was initially cited for the so called Muslim band, you will recall, and that resulted in a battle that went all the way up to the Supreme Court. The Trump administration did win that battle, which I think is important for everyone to know and remember and keep in mind. We were told by so many legal experts, oh my gosh, Trump is so lawless. Until the Supreme Court got to look at it, and they said no, no, he in

fact does have the authority to do this. He does have the authority, and he did, And so there was that it'll go to the courts if Trump tries anything to stop what is currently an unsustainable If you believe that we should have a secure border, what's going on right now is unsustainable. And I don't even mean a secure border that's perfectly secure. I mean even a little bit secure. If you're going to just try to have

border security. We are almost at the point where it's no longer no longer feasible to make the case that we have a secure border. All right, Anthony Rights, Hey, brother, call me. I'm from El Paso. I'd like to show you around out here. Well, Anthony, I'm traveling with my crew, but we will try to reach out as we are getting some drinks out here in El Paso, so I will. I'll pass this along to Hill TV producer Jess and you'd probably rather talk to her than me anyway, which

would make sense. She's she's cool. She's the one that makes sure that I also know where I'm going and what I'm doing when we're out in the field. Brent Shield's eye. You're down in my neck of the woods, down in El Paso. I hope it is informative for your listeners. I'm pretty close to your age. I remember in college the big thing was for all his kids to cross the bridge into Warez and hit the flea

markets and party at the big spots down there. Was a really big moneymaker for local economy at that time. Not that I'm advocating for what we did as college kids, but it's very sad to see how far that city has to teriorate in just the last seventeen years. Hope you enjoy your visit, Brent. Yeah, Brent. Everyone down here is very aware of just what it's like in Warez and how things have been going there. They tell me

now that it's a lot safer than it was. But there was a just last night, an assassination, I mean a cartel hit in some restaurant where they just went in and wasted a couple of people. So that happens just across. When I say across the border, it really feels like it's the same city as in it's a contiguous metro area. There's no it's not like there's a border and then there's you know, a few miles of desert,

and then you get to another city. It's like if you're in if you were in one city and you made a fence that went through the city, that's the separation between El Paso and Warez, although the fence is not entirely complete, which is one of the things they have to get going here. Brittany rights, Hey, Buck, I want to run a theory by you. Is there a chance Manafort asked to be in solitary confinement so he doesn't have to mix with the prisoners in the general

population of the prison. If I went to prison, I'd probably ask from books in solitary I can't hang, Brittany, I don't think so. What you're talking about is more along the lines of what, for example, law enforcement will sometimes be placed in if they are convicted of a crime.

Law enforcement officers will go into what I believe is called administrative segregation or at ad seg I believe is what they call it, and that's where you're not a part of the general population, because if you're a cop and you're in prison, you're obviously a major target and you still have all the privileges of the rest of the prisoner population. But you're not in the yard at the same time as them, I think, and their meals might be separate, washtime may be separate. I don't know.

I'm I'm not a Bureau of Prisons guy, but what I believe Manaford is in is straight up solitary confinement, which is a different situation and a very very psychologically trying one. I mean, he's on lockdown for twenty three hours a day by himself, twenty three hours a days in a cell by himself, that some people have argued is a form of psycological torture. And remember, Manaford is a threat to no human being. There is no one

who thinks Manaford is a threat. In fact, you would be hard pressed to find anyone who feels victimized by Paul Manaford. The only person that is victimized is the federal government and the Treasury Department, which he has paid back in full and then some. I'm not excusing what Manaphort did. I just think that we need to have punishments that fit the crime. And seven years in federal prison and a twenty five million dollars fine on top of that, that seems excessive. And it is only happening

because Manaford is tied to Trump. As we know, Jeremy, the way I've learned to say. Mayor Pete's last name is Buddha Judge as someone who lives in the Greater South Bend area. Mayor Pete is an interesting candidate politically. As mayor of a small blue city surrounded by a sea of red rural Indiana, he attempts to govern more toward the center. Since Democrats are needles in a haystack in Indiana's republican supermajority House and Senate, his only upward

political direction is the jump to president. It will be interesting to see how the DNC receives him, but he is definitely a better candidate in Beto. Just some opposition research shields high. Jeremy, Yeah, Jeremy, I I think that, you know, you gotta look at Mayor Pete's background and his his pedigree of service to the country and his pedigree of um, you know, an academic background that's that's obviously exceptional, and think that he's a more serious candidate

than Beto. Though the word I've spoke to some folks that spoke in pardon me, I spoke looking I'm down in Texas. I spoke people in Texas is like, fuck, that's not what we say either. Um. I've spoken to some people down here who have told me that Mayor I mean that Beto was considered a pretty centrist guy when he was a com we're spending for El Paso, this district, and had been usually a pretty moderate individual.

But now that he's trying to run as a Democrat, because the Democrats are crazy, he's had to be pretty crazy too. So that's a different circumstance than what I think a lot of people were expecting. But that's where we are. Team. That's gonna be the show. From here in El Paso. You can find me at you know, somewhere downtown whatever the most famous places for Mexican food here in El Paso. That is where I will be tonight, if from the El Paso area, whatever the most well

known is. So I'll be drinking. Marguerite is there with my team, with my crew, so feel free to swoop on buy and say hi. I will be traveling tomorrow. The Godfather, Michael Pelko will be in so we'll talk Monday. Until then, my friends, you know what's up. You know what time it is, shields high,