Leilani Dowding - Where's My Vaxx Apology

am pronouncing correctly. Leilani, thank you very much for being here with us. Appreciated. Thank you for having me on it. So I first became aware of your commentary, your punditry during COVID when many of us were locked away. I don't know where you were in the UK during and I was in New York City in Midtown in the

middle of the abject lunacy. I saw the hospital ship floating, floating by my window, literally saw it as it was going up the Hudson because I was living in midtown Manhattan and everything was, you know, lockdown at the end of the world. And then there were some of us who were saying, hey, guys, this is a really crazy idea, This whole lockdown thing, right, and you were very early in that. What's it like now as you look around

the UK? I wanted to fast forward to the current moment when you look around and all these people who did all this stuff, are any of them? Sorry? Do any of them come up to you and say you were right? Like? How is it from your perspective? Yeah, this is the craziest thing. No one has ever apologized to me and said sorry. And I've lost so many friends. I mean literally, I had just moved back actually, at the time of lockdown, I had just moved back from Los Angeles to England, so I was in the middle

of the country in Staffordshire. So I had a lot of friends in Los Angeles who was seeing my posts who were really angry at me. They were so angry at me. I've kind of lost touch with them. No one's ever reached out and said anything, the UK is really free now. I feel like I lost a lot of friends, But then I also made a whole bunch of new friends. And those are people that didn't want to lockdown, refuse to lock down, and kind of very vocal. I met them at a lot of the protests that

were going on and so and forth. And the strange thing is is that in the Uki seems very different to Los Angeles, and right now everyone just is like, we'd never do it again, but yet no one's actually apologized for it. It's it's astonishing at what point for you was at the beginning, because now here we are and it's they just had Karine Jean Pierre. I'm sure you see stuff going on with US politics. Karine Jean Pierre in the White House was just reminding everybody, hey,

COVID's not over. And some of us want to just jump up and scream. We're like, well, what does that even mean? I mean, the common call is also not over. The flu is not over. You know, your vaccines don't stop the spread, they don't work. What is really you know, maybe they work as well as a flu shot and a good year, maybe for about two months at best.

So we're sitting around, Okay, what's really the situation? I remember, for me, the hard break with the consensus or the apparatus was when all of a sudden, Fauci went from masks don't work to on no masks are essential. And that was like April of twenty twenty, right, exactly. So there was that, and the masks were going on in America, I think way before they were in the UK. They became mounta Tree in the US a lot sooner. And

it was all very strange to me. My friend's ninety year old grandma who wasn't in a care home, she was being looked after her in her own home. She had cancer, she has Alzheimer's and she got COVID and she got better. And to me, I was like, hold on a minute, this is supposed to be the most vulnerable and she's got better from it. So what is going on? I need to step back from what the

media were telling me. I need to step back from like this death count that we're seeing on the news every day, and I need to look at what's going on around me and to see a lot of vulnerable people that I knew, or people that would be in

that kind of category, get COVID and be better. In addition to no advice on being getting healthy, doing everything kind of opposite to what a normal healthy person would do, Like you know, in the UK, they were saying we could only leave the house for an hour a day, right, that makes no sense to me. How do you get your vitamin D, how do you get like sunshine, fresh air? Like you need all of that right to be a healthy person. So it was all very very counterintuitive to me,

and I was like, hold on. And in addition to that, I was watching and I always have watched alternative doctors, so like doctor Basha Batar sorry, and then oh doctor

is it doctor Shiva? I was watching right at the start, so I was seeing these other people have a different view and kind of saying like when you when there's viruses around, you need to take these vitamins or these And then obviously vitamins and minerals were then an spiracy theory, and you were like some far right conspiracy theorist if you thought that taking supplements would ever be good for your health and a fresh air and sunlight or any of these things were good for you. And so we

all just none of it made sense. It all just made zero sense at all to me. And that's kind of when I said, let's hold on a minute. You know, what is what is going on here? Did you have the same level of craziness with you in the US we had. I remember it was the playground that was right near my house. You know, the park had some sports field things like that, they padlocked it. They pulled the rims off of basketball courts so that nobody could go out and shoot hoops by themselves or in a group.

They created little circles in the ground and told people if you go to the park, if we happen to have a park that's open at some point, this is where you have to sit for social distancing. We had little foot pedals in elevators where you were in an elevator, right, so this would be like foot pedals in a telephone booth because you know, it's not like there's a lot of room, you know, And did you have all of

that stuff too, I mean, I'm just wondering. Obviously I couldn't travel during COVID, so I couldn't see how it was elsewhere. But in New York it was you did have that. Yeah, we did. So we had arrows in supermarkets, so you had to go a certain way around the aisles so that you were never going in the opposite direction. The playgrounds were all fenced off, even park benches, so there was a weird rule that you could go for a walk, but you weren't allowed to sit down with

a friend or anybody. You weren't allowed to sit down on a park bench, and you weren't allowed to take say a coffee with you or a cup of tea because that even though it was cold, it was like freezing cold. You weren't allowed to take a coffee or a cup of tea because that would class as a picnic. And you weren't allowed to have picnics. You could only have exercise walks. So this is how stupid it got. And I laughed now because I just at the time, I was so like, physically it wasn't COVID that was

what scaring me. It was the controls that was scaring me. And I got physically ill from it, and I felt anxiety. Um it was it was. It was a physical feeling that I felt right from, like this authority just closing

in on us. And and I want, I want to ask you how much of this do you think ties into you know, in the US A lot of the time when we debate healthcare in any respect, people on the left here will say, well, we should just have what the what the British have with the National Health Service because everything is free and it's amazing and that's the line, and my understanding is one that's not particularly true. But also, how much of of of the lockdown do

you think was pushed by or possible? Because your government and healthcare service ours are very much intertwined, more than people realize, but yours are one and the same. I mean, the government is the NHS and the NHS is the government, right right, And so it was persh And then we had this thing where at eight pm on a Thursday night, people would come out and they would clap for the NHS. Meanwhile,

the NHS doctors and nurses we're making TikTok videos. You know, they were supposed to be overrun in the hospitals and so busy, but they had time to make all these like TikTok videos and these dances, and people would couses and clap for them. And meanwhile they were stopping cancer patients from getting their treatments. They were people were too afraid to go into the hospitals because of all the

fear being pumped out. So but having lived in both countries, I would say, obviously, private healthcare it's going to be a lot better than the NHS. Like the waiting list here are crazy what happens if I want to get in if i want to get knee surgery, and I'm living in the UK, I'm just like an everyday guy. I need to get knee surgery. What's that? Like? How long do I wait? Well? Okay, So first of all, you need to try and get a doctor's appointment, right,

and even now it's so impossible. There's like so many backlogs. You have to call up at say nine o'clock in the morning or eight o'clock in the morning, stay in line to try and get an appointment over the phone because a lot of doctors still won't even see you, right, This is the craziest thing. Yeah, and then there's and then you know, and then people can't get their appointments. So what they then do is they go into emergency care. So like you know, your eer, people will go into

the emergency care because they're not feeling well. So then that's overrun, right, So then they've also sacked I think they've sacked forty thousand care workers, so not necessarily nurses and doctors, but the care workers that care for people want they leave hospital, which is then bedlock bedlock the beds, so they're filled with people that could go back to

their house but can't. And this is because of the vaccine mandates, right, And that was the only sector actually the did vaccine mandates because there were so many protests in the UK that they never got round to actually mandating it for doctors and nurses. So it is a mess. But the one thing about the UK, unlike Canada, is you can get private healthcare as well if you want to,

which you know a lot of people do. So I want to ask you about where it all stands now because you started to get into that, like how is the situation when it comes to COVID in the UK. I mean here it felt like we were almost about to get masks back on planes again and then they backed off of it. But we know it always it's always in the back background because these people are lunatics. But something else aline it's very important for your health is a good night's sleep, and you've got to have

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It's phenomenal. You've got a great NiFe sleep, which is good for your health. By the way, and back to health, Leilani, what's going on over there now? Do you guys still you know Novac joke? Bitch? You and I are both been watching the tennis. I saw you tweeting about it. I'm a rafa guy personally. A tennis is one of the few sports you know, my co hosts on radio loves like all professional sports, tennis is one of the

only ones I panny attention to. I love Rafa Nadal, but I do think that maybe Djokovic is just gonna have to be crowned the greatest of all time. He may win all three majors this year leading into the US Open. He's still cannot actually attend the US Open because he has not been vaccinated and the US requires non citizens to be vaccinated before they come in. How crazy and stupid can things get before they have to relent? What do you think? I don't know. I have no

idea what Biden's thinking, Oh the administration. I have no clue what is going on, and it blows my mind. Luckily, I'm a dual citizen, so if I want to go back to America, I can. But to think that so many of my friends can't, and a lot of them can't leave Los Angeles because they can't get back in. They can't, you know, they can't go home and see their parents. They haven't seen their families in you know, three years. A lot of my makes pat phones out there.

They can't get back into the country. So it's it's so insane to me, and to think that this is all supposed to be about health. You know, this is like the fittest guy on the planet and probably and he can't get into America. It's it's madness. But here, like I said, so tell me, tell me what's going on in the UK with regard to these policies. Do they still have some lingering COVID lunacy? So there's no mandates.

They actually never got round to doing vaccine mandates for any jobs other than the care the care workers because of all the protests that went on, because there would have been massive strikes in the NHS and all sorts, and as I said, the NHS is like really overloaded, so they didn't do that. You do see some people still wandering around in masks, and it blows my mind.

And usually they're kind of very unhealthy looking people, and I think to myself, God, you know, you've had three years to take care of your health, but you choose a mask instead. But a lot is coming out in the newspapers as well. Just today it's been announced that apparently they had sections of the army actually looking at the social media of people they considered lockdown skeptic or antibaxes. So you know, like kind of the Twitter files, how

your government was involved. Our army is being said to be involved, so obviously that's the government, the seventy seventh Brigades fighting disinformation. So this is astonishing. So your military intelligence in the UK was looking at COVID dissidents as a possible I assume health and therefore safety threat. And wasn't Peter Hitchins, the brother of the late Christian Hitchins, on that list. Yes, yes he was, Yeah, he was, which is weird because he writes for the Daily Mail.

And I actually had a really bad hit piece done on me by the Daily Mail, and a journalist called me up and she asked me my thoughts on Jock Fitch when this was like a year ago, right when he wasn't going to be allowed into Australia or he was going to be deported, and I think the word refuse nick was going round, so I called myself a proud refuse nick and she asked me about it. That night, my Instagram got taken down, which is probably where you saw me because prior to it being taken down, I

was mainly on Instagram and not Twitter. But yeah, the night that she called me for a quote, my Instagram went down, So I think there were journalists kind of ratting out people as well. So yeah, it's amazing. They're supposed to be standing athwart the power of the state and standing on the side of the people against concentrations

of power. We saw throughout COVID in all Western societies the exact opposite of that that the journalistic enterprise, journalistic apparatus was used entirely as really with a few exceptions, but as an enforcement mechanism. And I mean I've had I had hit pieces written on me too about things like I actually had a hit piece written on me by a political fact checking organization because I said that masks outside outside or I mean side as ridiculous too,

but outside you're completely out of your mind. They're like, no, they're still dispute about this. It's not true to say that. And what's amazing because no one ever goes back and changes or corrects any of this, So it really does have kind of a Soviet feel. I mean the Daily Mail. Wait, the Daily Mail came out, I would assume the Guardian would come after you, but I expect more from the Daily Mail. Yeah, no, it was the Daily Mail, the Mail on Sunday, which is part of the Daily Mail.

But yeah, no, I think they did it about a few people. Actually it was the people on social media have a presence that apparently we're causing vaccine hesitancy and we're causing people to die. Basically how the article went, yeah,

you were killing grandma. It turns out I over here in the US was killing grandma as well when I was pointing out that telling people to stay home for a finite period of time before they have to go back to some semblance of normal life, and also only telling about thirty percent of people who work that they should stay home while everybody else is essential, so they keep going to work and getting sick and spreading the virus. Anyway,

this was an idea that was beyond lunacy. And what one thing that I find has been troubling Leilate is that they were wrong about everything. And yet I feel like everybody who pushed the stuff, they act like everything's fine, like they got it right and we just move forward. And I'm seeing here, I'm still pissed off. I have not let this go at all. Maybe that's no, I

agree with you. I mean when you see people like, you know, I don't know if you know who Pierce Morgan is out, Yeah, viewers right, so he was their trial that came out his mouth like he was an establishment mask foucy guy, wasn't he. I'm sure Piers just evil and he just went, well, you know, when the facts changed, my opinion changed, as though I was like, hold on a minute, Pierce. Facts don't change. Opinions always change. Science changes. That's the whole thing. Like you know all

these people that say I trust the science. Science is evolving. It's not like mathematics where it's set right. So it's like what Piers Morgan says, when the facts change. No, facts are facts. Facts don't change. You just never had the facts right and you weren't prepared to listen to the facts. And that's the thing. And it's all coming out. It's kind of like it's it's change because it's all

dripping out in little bits. And I don't know whether that's because they have to do it that way, because if everyone finds out that if the people that you know believed what the mainstream were saying and believed what our politicians were saying, if they've found out the lies that went on all at once, I don't know what would happen. You know, it would just be so explosive that I think they have to like just drip feed out these little bits and bobs. I have said that

to friends, by the way that I am. One argument that I don't think is I think it's partially correct. Is that a full accounting for how wrong the CDC and how honestly useless and even counterproductive. It was the only argument I could have or I can listen to against basically tear it down to the studs and it's

a complete disaster. Is you know the CDC does you know, provide funding for some you know, for you know, HIV research, and it does things that that are are worthwhile and when it tells people to uh, you know that there's some health aspects that it shares, not very many, but that are good. Basically, what I'm saying is I worry that people won't believe the CDC now on almost anything right.

I mean, that's the only argument against doing a full breakdown of everything that got wrong is then people won't listen to them about anything, including some of the things that they say are are true. I don't know if that's a feeling you have in the UK too, But because the CDC here was an an abject disaster, I mean absolutely, the Centers for Disease Control got everything wrong, especially the vaccine stuff. And that's the funny thing, isn't it.

It's like people. I think they depend on people forgetting and the short memory people have. So you know, it was within like six months of Biden saying literally Biden said this will stop the spread. It will stop the spread, Rachel Matter was saying, the virus will stop here. That's it. Take the vaccine, the virus stops. Then next thing, like six months later, it's like, no one said it stops

the virus. It just makes your symptoms less. It's like, no, wait a minute, But they did say that, and they kind of said that was going to be our only way out of lockdown. And so they depend on people forgetting a lot of it, and you know, forgetting their anger as well that they had. Yeah, I think and I think you're right, and I think you're right as well. I think that it will make people really skeptical. I mean there's people now that are going to be skeptical

of the old fashioned vaccines, not the mRNA vaccines. There are people that are going to be skeptical of all vaccines now because they pushed this one so hard. There's going to be people that are going to be very, very skeptical of big farm and probably you know rightly so to some extent that they don't believe everything that

they get told in the future. Yes, I think the medical establishment also is suffering from and this is really I think a bigger problem than even the CDC or what you'd see with the NIH and the credibility of the entity that the medical field is in a point now where I think out of either habit or hubris. I don't really know what the mentality is. It's pushing it. Doctor's office is, for example, in New York City, where I spend a lot of my time and where I'm from,

originally they require you to wear a mask. Still, you can't go into any doctor's office in New York City without a mask on our. Same thing with hospitals. And I'm sitting here saying, guys, this was all crap, right, you know this, And apparently they don't or they're unwilling to admit it's it makes no sense. And it's a year round rule too. It's not even like a seasonal flu covid thing. They're just like, no masks, we all mask.

Now that's what health means. Are you sick? Yes, they're so shocking to me because, like you said, going back to India, now, I feel like people, although they won't apologize, they see that it's complete enough to madness. And so yeah, it's rare that you see anybody in a mask anymore. Yeah, I feel like in America it got very political. It was like it was so political. It was a sign of who your affiliation was with politically by wearing one or not. It was so it was so strange. Yeah,

did your devotion in America to the mask? I mean, first of all, there were people who literally were wearing I voted for Biden masks and things like that or being a Biden twenty twenty so, and it was all you Democrats were very pro mask. It became an entirely political bifurcation which side of this are are you one? And that that was troubling to me. But but also I was saying for on Twitter, guys, just give it time.

There Fauci's gonna say, actually, we need a double mask because the data will be so clear that cloth masks are worthless. And sure enough, and then I was retweeting my tweet from three months because saying, hey, I don't have a medical degree, but how did I know that they were going to say that double masking was necessary because obviously there was a failure, and there was a point there was a brief moment where they started talking

about goggles. I don't know if you saw this, but they were say yes, because the virus could go in your eyes. Like, I remember all this stuff, and yet I still come across people. A lot of people on planes in the US will still voluntarily mask. And the thing about them that bothers me, I'm actually I'm contemptuous of it. I don't I'm not like, oh, that's okay. Live. Because we went through the they didn't want to live

and let live. If they could, and the Biden administration had the power here again, they would reinstitute the mask on plane rule for everybody, which is crazy, not only because masks don't work. The CEOs of the airlines in this country have all come out to say our hepiphiltrations on planes go down to the level of virus particles. The cleanest air that people are breathing anywhere in their life in a congregate setting, as fout you would say,

is on airplanes. So the place with the most concentration of masking scientifically for a place where there's a lot of people, so bars, restaurants, workplace is the safest place, and that's where they wear a mask. And I just feel like that's a perfect encapsulation of the madness. I lost friends over this too, by the way, did you yeah, anyway, it's crazy. I lost I think I lost half my friends. I really, it's so mad. But I've got to say,

we didn't have the double masking in the UK. So when I saw it, I did take a trip about to Los Angeles and I saw it for the first time. I was just like I had to take a picture and send it to my friends and back in the UK and say, oh my gosh, this is really real, Like people are walking down the street double masks. And I mean in the UK, so people would only have to wear them in the shops. You never actually had to wear them outside on the street. And you could

also self exempt yourself. So I gave myself an exemption. I was just and I didn't even have to prove it. I could go into a shop and say I'm exempt, and they had to accept that as an exemption. But there were so You'd see people and they would pull out a dirty mask from their purse, put it on, walk around the shop, take it off, shove it in their bag, and it's it was so stupid, and I laugh about it now. I was so, like I said before, I it made me physically ill. I got such anxiety

from it. And I've never been an anxious person, but I always know that, you know, you've got to listen to, like your gut and your intuition, and it was just telling me the whole thing was wrong. Right, So I laugh about it now, and I'm glad I can laugh about it now, because the whole thing was just so absurd. It was just so ridiculous. I'm so absurd, and none

of it made sense. I went to a restaurant at one point in New York City and I sat down with a friend and you had the rule, and again I don't know if you had the same The rule was you had to wear the mask, for the trip from the door of the restaurant to the table, and then take the mask off for the whole meal. You did not have to mask up between bites during the meal. But I sat down at this restaurant, and this is maybe June of twenty twenty one, I would think something

like that. I sit down in this restaurant and the manager comes running over and says, excuse me, sir, could you pull your mask up? And I said, well, but I'm sitting like this is the rules are? You know? I can't eat through a mask? So the rules are I'm sitting and he goes, no, no, no, here, we request that until you've ordered your until you've at least ordered a drink or food, you continue to mask at

the table. And I'll never forget. I pointed there was a glass of water on the table already, and I said, that's a drink, isn't it. And his face was just, you know, cannot compute. Yeah, so the water doesn't count. I order a beer and that's okay. The COVID won't come, but the water does it. People. I it changed my you of humanity, honestly, and it's in a pretty scary way.

And with the vaccines the same thing. I mean, you had people that were cheering for folks to get fired from their jobs for something that was that was a complete failure and that never worked the way that they told us it would it would work, and none of them seem sorry. I've seen one guy, he's actually an Australian fitness influencer who did a true Maya Colpa like, I'm sorry to all my fans. I was way too

trusting and got all this wrong. Have you seen anybody who's really come out and said, look, I was a jackass, my bad. No, do you know what? Actually I had not seen anyone publicly in the public eye do it, but I think it was last weekend. I had my

first person say somebody that. It was a friend of mine's husband and we'd go out for dinner and he'd say, I just want every unvaccinated person in my company fired, blah blah blah, and I had to hold my tongue because I thought we're going to blow up and have a huge argument in a restaurant and this is so inappro So he actually messaged me and he said, you know what, I've listened to this podcast and I've been doing a bit of research and I've done a completely

Nutter one eighty and I complete again. So that was the first one. That's my first one. But that wasn't a friend I lost. It just became like we stopped kind of hanging out as helps anymore because it just got really awkward. But it's it's kind of good. So that was my That's my first one. But nothing. I've not really seen anyone publicly, although actually I'm wrong. There was a there was an MP who came out and

said that he's now vaccine injured. And he came out and he said, I think we should have a halt in a suspension of the vaccines until we find out what's going on. And he actually said this is the craziest thing. He actually got suspended because he said, and he quoted in this quote, he said, I think this is one of the worst crimes against humanity since the Holocaust. Now he didn't compare it to the Holocaust. He didn't say it as bad as or worse than, he just

said since And so he got called anti semitic. They said that's an anti Semitic slur, and he's got suspended from his job as an MP. As name as Andrew Bridging, so and he was actually just quoting somebody, so this is the most So there is still insanity going on in the UK, but he was somebody that came out. I mean, actually, there's a doctor, a Sema Holtra who I think on the early days advised people to take

the jobs who father died after having one. And he's done a peer reviewed study and all sorts and he's come out and said it. So there's there's maybe a little handful of people. So we'll come back to this in just a second. I want to ask everybody out there if they've tried the American Giants incredibly comfortable clothing,

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American Dash Giant dot Com. You'll get twenty percent off when you use my name, Buck buc K at checkout American Dash Giant dot Com promo code Buck. So Leilani, you tell us a little bit about Jilo. Where did you grow up in the UK? I know you ended up being on you know your you're a public person, right you now do GB News and you've done you were in the Real Housewives of Cheshire, which I assume is a very part The Real Housewives shows in the US are wildly popular, so I assume in the UK

a lot of people watch it too. You know, give us a little bit of your backstory. How did it come to be? I mean now I see you on GB News, you're talking Vax Ukraine, you're talking whatever. How did you get to do you know what is so weird? I don't know how it happened. It was I've moved back to back to the UK from Lau. My fiancee's a musician, so we were moving to an area called Cheshire, which is where he's from originally. Job he's not just

he's not just a musician. You could you could tell everybody, can tell the folks he's not a guy who's like playing at you know, at the bar for tips. Tell everybody who he is. And so it's Billy Duffy from the Cults. Um he wrote the songs. He's the guitar player from the car. So I never know who who knows him on because I mean I didn't when I met him. I had to, like I did do a Google search. So when Lego Marcus said she didn't google Harrys,

we both googled each other. Right, So, um, yes, I never know who knows or not is a very excellent, very excellent band. But so ok, how do you like living in la by the way? Um? Well, I well I would think I was. I was there eighteen years. I got to do the math on this, but I think I was like twenty two twenty three when I moved out there. Originally, um and at the time I was young, I loved it, and UM then to me,

I started I just started to hate it. I think maybe it was about eight or nine years ago I started to hate it. I thought, if I stay here, I'm going to remain single forever. Um. A lot of my friends had moved back to England, got married, had children, UM. And I just went to see my sister one day and just kind of long to that lovely, quiet, peaceful life that she had, just the normal, wholesome life, and I was like, right, that's it. I want to move back to the UK. And luckily my fiance is English.

But I did meet him out there, but we kind of both decided to come back at the same time. Yeah, even though I'm sorry, it's kind of weird because I've made up in my mind if I stayed in LA I'd be single forever. But I actually met him in LA so kind of doesn't make sense. I always get told by people that you find you find the person when you're not looking for the person. So maybe also when you're like, I'm never going to meet someone in

this town, it's when it actually happens. I think for a lot of people, that's a story that I hear. Pretty yeah, no, it's true. I like in my mind, I was like, right, I'm going back to England. That's it. And so maybe that took the pressure off when we, you know, on our first few dates, I was like, you know, I'm like, so, so, how did the real housewives of sure Thing come together? And what's that like? What's it like to have them, you know, have the

cameras and all that stuff around? Is that does it take some Like I've gotten used to having a microphone or phone me all the time. I'm not really I don't like cameras as much. I just like microphones, but you know, I have to we do the things for the media. Did you enjoy being on that show? What was that? Was that a trip? What was it like? Now? You know what? It's funny. I did kind of enjoy

it at the time. But there was a lot of arguments, which obviously they want drama, right, So I'm not saying it's stage because none of it was stage. I had genuine arguments and resented a couple of people and didn't get on with a couple of people, But they also wanted you to actually like make up. It doesn't look good if there's this constant conflict, and I just I couldn't. I was really different to a lot of them, not

materialistic the way they were materialistic. When I saw the final edit of it and they cut out stuff that's important to me, they cut out saying like my walks with my fianc and my dogs. They cut out my niece, they cut out my sister, they cut out me with my horses. I was just like, you know what, I don't don't want to I don't want to stay in this. They filmed so much, but they really really like just

keep like the worst, nastiest, horrible bits. And actually I feel like it's a good analogy for a lot of the news that goes on, you know, when you watch the BBC or something, and especially during COVID, I'm like, gosh, there's like all these good things going on, there's all these great stories of people getting better, and they're just really focusing in on like the worst thing and the death rates, not you know, the ninety year old grandma who's a lot better so to me, you know, I

think there was a lot of parallels I saw in that as well, when I was doing The Housewives, and then once I'd left it and was back and going just like it is. Actually, I guess TV and the news is like a reality show just picking the worst

out of people. Well, you know, with the with the Internet, there's something we'd talk about a lot, particularly in conservative media here, the places like CNN, which back in the in the nineties and the eighties to some extent, I forget when CNN first came online, but back in the nineties, it was a news ticker, right, so you could turn on CNN to get the news, and so that was

its value. It was just hey, you know, this is what the stock market's doing, and you know, this country is some kind of a conflict and it could be. It always had a perspective and it was it was

Democrat leading, but it was presenting news. But now because of the Internet and there's a million news sites and it's instantaneous, and then there's also social media and the sharing of news there, some of these news entities have had to just go more and more into the outrage machinery and essentially propaganda and manipulation of emotion just to draw audience. Right, So this is where you got into commentary really in place of news at a lot of

places entirely. And it's also why I think people who watch the news too much. And I work in the news, but I always say I tell people listen to my podcast and then go for a walk in the park.

Like people who do too much of this, it is designed to make them unhappy, and it is warring propaganda machines for the most part, so it's like you need some of it, but not too much of it, right, And I think I'm in the US as well, it's not as bad as in the UK because the UK have this like governing body called Offcom and they're supposed

to you know, usually Offcom as well. People write to them if someone's wearing something a little bit too skimpy on like our equivalent of you've got is it dancing with the stars? You have? And you know, so we've got like dancing on ice strictly come dancing and if something someone's wearing something too skimpy, like people in and complaint.

But what's also happened is that people will do that if they don't like what's being said about the vaccines, or if they don't like what was being said about lockdown. They'll be like this is really dangerous, and then they've flood places like gb News with all these complaints and then people kind of get investigated and it's just this whole long drawn out process. So instead of being like this, you know, regular literary body that is balanced it's all,

it's become part of this like misinformation machine. And then you see like the chief executive of Offcom then is going to Davos and speaking to the w EF. So it's like hold on a minute, like this is also intertwined with the British media. It's very it's it's yeah,

it's very different from the US. I think, yeah, well, I don't think you guys have obviously you don't have a constitution, but I don't think that they're the same legal protections for speech, right, I mean, if someone says something that is essentially disturbing the piece in some capacity, meaning that it says something that upsets enough people. I always see these articles in the Daily Mail, which by the way is a new site that I read a lot. Well, the cops will come knock on the or bobbies do

we call the bobbies? Right? Okay, I don't know, we don't do it so much anymore. Yeah, but you know what I've noticed, actually we're picking up a lot of the American terms because it used to be police and cops used to be so American, but now everyone says cops here. So yeah, it is. It is a quick and easy, easy shorthand. By the way, since since we're talking linguistics for a second here, so would your accent

be considered. I'm fascinated by British accents. I've talked about this on radio because they like, first of all, whenever there's a historical piece, So if we're setting a show or a movie an ancient Rome, even if it's made by Americans, we need them all to have British accents, which we just kind of right because they would have been speaking Latin, so why they have to have British accents of the first American accents never but we just

think like, oh, fancy historical British. But then you also have there's like fancy accents up here. Well, oh, I do a lot of things you know that you have the the you know, the like, so the soldier, the everyday soldier is going to have more of I guess a Cockney accent, and so is your accent men Cunian or what what would yours be considering? No, okay, so mine is really messed up. So I'm from the south of England, um, so I would think it would be

considered quite hosh. But then I went to live in London for a bit and I don't know, my accent just seems to keep changing all the time. And then I moved to America, where everyone thought I was Australian because I started to pick up this twang. And I think when English people moved to America they start to sound Australian. Um. And I don't know how that is, but that that does kind of happen. You get before

you sound America and you start to sound Australian. Then I moved back and my fiance is from Manchester, so he's man Keunian. So then I pick up these northern bits. But now I actually live in the middle of the country from Birmingham. I don't know if you've ever watched Peaky Blinders. Oh it's one of my favorite shows. Yes, So it's that kind of act. So mine is just is a mess And depending on who I speak too, I somehow pick up little twangs of things. It's very strange.

It's very strange. I've got a weird accent. And also so can you. This would be kind of fun because most people listen, so we were people watching on videos so they can see you, but most people be listening to this on audio only. So if you were going to tell me in an American like, speak for me in an American accent, your version of the most American accent you can do about um? Why you know, did you spend much time in New York too, or only

Los Angeles? No, just la Los Angeles. Tell me tell me something about being you know, your favorite things about Los Angeles in an American accent. I just want to hear it because I always found it funny when these British actors are cast in American roles and they all so could you guys all complain about how our accents so terrible? We all shound like, you know, we use this thing right, and you all the Brits all make

fun of us. But I see all these guys that come over and they try to do the American accent and they all kind of talk like like their face is really tight. They're like yeah, Now I'm American, you know, so what is your do you an American accent? About Los Angeles living for the audience per second, I'll just have to do it like I'll have to ask with something can I have some water please? And can I have some butter? And then it was basically because when I used to say water, can I have some water?

That'd be like hot and then you'd have to go like water and like yeah, so it was it was rich. So oh, I think I get some bread. I'd say can I have some buttered? Place? And then it's a huh oh, oh butter? Can I have some butter? Okay? Did you find that's funny because your American kind of actually sounds like a valley girl, which I'm sure you're familiar with that concept from Los Angeles and girls who are from the you know, the valley near la um Uh?

Did you find that Americans? And like, did you get tired after a while if people all being fascinated by because Americans are still fascinated by British accents, like we hear one, We're like, oh that's so cool. You know, we don't get that anywhere, Like we don't go to Canada and they're like, oh, speak more in your in your American accent for us A like they don't care at all. So was that something that was a common place for you in La or people just were like, yeah,

it's La. Yeah. No, I think it was norm when I would go to other places or i'd leave La and go to somewhere else that people would say, Oh, I'll say that again, say that again. I'll speak a bit of things. So well, they try and do my accent pretty badly. But yeah, does anyone do Are there any American actors that you've seen who you're like that one that man or woman really pulls it off? Well, you know, like Angelia and Jolie went through a phase or she was always trying to do British roles. It

seems you know some of them. Is there anyone here like that person really nailed it? Oh gosh, I don't know. Actually, I was watching UM I was coming back from holiday and I watched Gangs of New York and I thought Leonardo did a good Irish accent, but that's obviously not English. So I don't know. I can't think because usually if they're that good, it doesn't stand out because I think they're I think they're English until they speak, So let

me do you can you tell right away? I mean so as an American when I hear somebody, if I hear somebody from Boston, from the South, from the Midwest, it's a little harder actually with California unless they have kind of a prototypical and there's actually a Florida accent.

I'm done in Miami now, so there's a it's a Miami accent, not a Florida accent, but there's a very specific Miami speech and cadence that people have which feels almost like a Latin like has almost like a more of a English Spanish crossover, a Latin rhythm to it. Can you tell, like when someone speaks, are you like that person's from Birmingham that can you tell right away? Or is it a little bit hard oh in England? Yes, yeah, definitely,

you definitely can tell. Sometimes. The weirdest thing is that sometimes, or when I was living in America, I would get mixed up between Irish and Scottish just because I hadn't

heard them for so long. But you can definitely tell, I think between like Liverpool Birmingham from down south Cockney, the ones I struggle with a kind of like the Yorkshire and Sheffield, the Yorkshire and Sheffield and Manchester a little bit to some extent because when I met Billy, I thought he sounded like Ned Stark from Game of Thrones. He's like Yorkshire or Sheffield. And he's like, I don't sound like him. I'm from Manchester and he's from like Sheffield.

I was like, oh, you're northern. You all kind of sound the same to me, but there's Newcastle sounds very different, like I can almost not even understand what they're saying and need a translator and they speak so strangely, but like you can definitely tell Liverpool and Birmingham. And yeah, and I know you have you mentioned this briefly and from uh, you know social media. I know you love horses. Has that been a lifelong thing? Or do you do? You do? You do you ride? Do you do you

want to breed horses? Like what's the do you show them? What do you do? So? I show jump a little bit, but just for fun, like I'm not, you know, not professional or anything like that. Um, and I have I have three horses here at home now. Um and I did start I started to ride out that I loved them. When I was a little girl, I was like absolutely obsessed with them. I had little, my little ponies, and then I got a little my dead parents got me a little pony because in the UK, back in the

day kind of it was a thing. There's loads of land that you know, there's a lot of space if you don't live in London, loads of fields, and we just had a little I had a little pony. I probably stopped riding when I was about sixteen, and then back in la when I got fed up with you know, kind of going out and all of that, I ended

up buying myself another horse. So I was probably about had him ten years now, So I was about thirty four, and I got myself a horse out there, and then just the love of it all came back, and I think I just wondered to myself, I wonder what would have happened if I had carried on riding at like sixteen, if I would even have gone to America, because I

think horsey people are a little bit obsessed. And my fiance away says, I'm completely in Nataline saying, because I had one horse and then I moved back to England. I got another horse, and then as soon as we had we moved to a place where I could have them at home. There was a spare stable. I decided I needed to fill it by getting another horse. And you said dogs too, right, so give us what's the hole menagerie here, we've got three horses, We got some

dogs and two dogs. Both my dogs are fifteen now. So I got them when I was living in America, and yeah, they came back with me. One of my horses came back with me, um, and then got two horses here. Yeah, so it's all swim across the Atlantic. That horse must be in really good ship. Slew he flew a fancy horse by a shipping container. But apparently he flew. That's very cool. So yeah, no, no, it's it's it's crazy. They have like um, I think it's it's klm. They have like a whole um half a

section I think for animals that are being transported. So they do have like the shipping container for three horses, and it is usually race horses or something that go on that ship to Europe. But I do have to give you a film recommendation that is near and dear to my heart for a few reasons. Have you seen the documentary about the horse whisperer called Buck, Yes, yes,

I have seen it. I love it. I'm gonna say I think it is great, not just because it's a great name, but it is great because the guy is really he's amazing. I mean, that was a very and for anyone who's listening or watching if you haven't seen, it didn't get a ton of like a lot of press, I feel like, and it was really really good for what it was. And I actually I'm supposed to with my fiance I'm supposed to watch Sea Biscuit in the

next week. We've talked about watching Sea Biscuit for one of our movie nights coming up, so you know, yeah, yeah, so I have to. Can you see that? Actually I think it wasn't here a little race horse apparently a very good Yeah, yeah, very good. But I think he was small. I might be confusing him with an oh yeah, no, we need a little engine that could story here, you know what I mean. It needs to be a David

and Goliath thing. I'm sure he's probably the horror. They're like, Oh, he's just gonna be carrying like you know, moving a card around or you know, he's worthless, and then all of a sudden he kicks all the other horses asses Like. I haven't seen it, I don't even know the story, but I have a feeling that's probably probably where this is going, right. I mean, I don't think see biscuit ends up like smoking cigarettes and not meeting his full potential.

So I think that's a that's a good thing for sure. So where should people go? Leilani defined more of both your commentary, your GB news stuff is great over in the UK. Um. I know you're doing stuff with Mark Stein over there, right, So where should people follow? Yes? Yeah, so, um, I have got new Instagram it's Lanie doubt. You can't I can't use my full name still, so don't grasp me up to Instagram, will report me um and Twitter it's Leilani Doubting. And I also am hosting a show

on a channel called Iconic Um. It's a subscription channel, but some of the shows go out on Rumble and YouTube um, and it's it's kind of it's talking about what's in the news. But because we're not on TV, we're not governed by offcom and we can just speak freely and have people who want to say how they feel and how they really really feel on there. So that's an iconic dot com and it's I see kay like David Ike gotcha? All right, cool, we'll go check

out the lines work. Thank you so much for being with us and for standing strong during the lockdown and COVID madness. It was good to have some additional friends from across the pond on that one. Thanks now you too, It's great like everyone you know, both sides still standing together. Thank you all right. Thanks