Karol Markowicz - How the Left Brainwashes Your Kids

from New York City to Florida, she helped lead the charge. Carol, great to have you on the program. Hi, Block, thanks so much for having me. I feel like we could start with your book, if that's all right, just because right now there are some areas where I want to get conservatives to be paying a lot more attention and the indoctrination. I'm doing research right now that's going to be comparing the brainwashing of totalitarian regimes to what democrats

are doing. Like, I'm actually very deep into this. I'm looking very closely at parallels and things. But that's the first chapter of the book. Tell me about Yeah, so it compares totalitarian regimes to what the left is doing in America. Right now, and it particularly compares where the totalitarian regimes of the past have always tried to sever the connection between parent and child in order to get the child well indoctrinated and to get the parent kind

of removed from the whole process. As you know, I was born in the Soviet Union. This is really personal to me, and I it is a history of my family that I've heard about my whole life that that was always part of it. The removal of the child from the parents was very important, and that's how you got them. Yeah. I remember actually reading in the New York Times. It was a New York Times sort of throwback to their assessments back in the early eighties of

universal childcare in the Soviet Union. And then there were people this is not something that anybody would talk about anymore, of course, but there were American liberals who are like, hey, look at the great universal childcare the Soviets had, and it was a very important part of the Soviet machine because they wanted people to well, they wanted men and women to be able to go do these factory jobs or bureaucrats or whatever it was that they were doing.

So they just plopped all the kids in to train them that this horrific system that they were all in was great, and the parents got to make, you know,

really poorly functioning widgets all day at the factory. So it's funny because you know, my parents, whenever they would read these kinds of stories, would be like, I would love to see one of these people who like these, you know, I mean, my parents didn't say this, but I'm saying it now, like the quinoa eating you know, five dollars coffee every morning at least you know, thirty thousand dollars preschool plus parents, see what this Soviet childcare

looked like, and the people that took care of your children and what they did all day, and the food that they ate, and all of that, just the setting, the grim, gray, unhappy setting that these kids were in. My parents are always like, I'd love to see any of these proponents of the system actually send their kids

to something that looked like this. And yet here we are now, I think seeing more than ever that the progression goes from why are you guys making I've really noticed this a lot more in the last few years than ever before. Why are you making such a big

deal out of this? This is what the left and this is the you know, the Democratic Corps will say whenever we start to recognize something, and certainly when it comes to teaching kids things in school, and you know, meaning whether whether it's CRT or really aggressive radical gender theory stuff, or even the drag queen performances for small children with full grown men with like you know, their

backsides bouncing around in the faces of small children. At first, it's why are you making such a big deal out of this? And then eventually when they do it enough, then they just start to say, yeah, this is what we do now, this is really important to us. Right. It's also the this isn't happening, it's good that this is happening. Like switch, it always starts with what are you guys talking about? This is totally not happening. Nobody's

trying to take away your gas stove. And then you know, Kathy Hokel in New York, it's the other her budget, and it phases out the gas stove. Suddenly it's good that this is happening. It's good for the environment, it's good for your air, you can breathe better, et cetera. And they do this on so many different levels, and constantly there's so much gaslighting. And I have to say that, like my whole life, I've had times where people have asked me, like, doesn't this moment feel very Soviet too?

And it was like the nineties and the Clinton years and whatever, and it didn't, it really didn't. But this moment does. And it's creepy and so just so the walls seemed to be closing in on our society where there's only you can only say certain things, and you can only say them a certain way, and conformity is so important, and the Left is just making our society ever more conformist. And it is very reminiscent of the

stories that my family told very well. This is why with COVID, it has re oriented my whole framework for American politics. You know, before that, I felt like the Cavanaugh moment was a very important political shift that many of us experienced. I know, it's just one Supreme Court seat, one Supreme Court nomination. I was eye open, but it

was opening because you had the entire Democrat machine. I call it the apparatus, right Soviet you know, apparatchicks, right, the apparatus, but the apparatus of the Democrat Party so obviously went along with the most absurd smears and lies about whether you like as jurisprudence or not. A good and honorable guy who just didn't represent what their needs of power, didn't represent what would give them power, and so they just decided to destroy him and feel good.

And Kamala Harris was a part of it. I mean, Corey Booker was a part of it. There are people who are still held in high esteem by the Democrats. What they did was horrific beyond words. I also think with COVID, what we saw was now and now I worried that they would do anything to destroy you know, your your neighbor, or you or your family member if it meant that they could have more power. That's what

Kavanaugh showed us. But then with with with COVID, it was they'll believe any lies, go along with them, either propagate them themselves, or be subservient to them in the cause of the collective. That felt very That felt very Soviet to me. That felt like something that I didn't expect to see in America. All the COVID madness that you and I've talked about so much. So we have a COVID chapter in the book, and you're absolutely right.

And there were moments like, if Donald Trump wants schools to open, then the Democrats don't want schools to open, and the Democrats were against public schools. I mean, when did that happen? How did that shift happen? And it was only despite him, And it's wild to look back at this now and see that their special interest group, allies and the teachers' unions got them to support closing down public schools while private schools stayed open. It was just mind boggling to look back at this and see

that this actually happened. So, yeah, I agree. I agree that it's they'll do anything in the pursuit of power, anything to indoctrinate these kids. And I don't see a bottom here. Yeah, I was gonna ask you, do you think do you believe that a lot of the people Randy Winegarden perfect example, Does she actually believe it when she says that she's doing things for the benefit of children? You, I mean, you and I agree she's not. But does

she think does she think she is? Or is it all just a con a lie, an abuse, propaganda meant in the pursuit of power for the left and for the collectivists. So it's hard to say, especially with her. She's sort of George Costanza. A lie is not a lie if you believe it kind of situation because she now says that she was for opening schools, and once you say that, once you say that, you're Randy Winegarden

and you wanted to open schools all along. She says that she's been wanting to open schools since April twenty twenty, and you believe this, really believe this. I mean, it's sociopathic behavior. She did not want schools to open school year twenty twenty, but it's important to remember she did not want schools to open school year twenty twenty one either.

She wanted them closed for the second school year. And you know, thank god for Ronda Santis and Florida leading the way on opening schools because the rest of the country might be locked down for that year as well. They would have just not had an example to look to and been like, well, this is how it works, this is how schools open and kids get to go back to school. And we don't have to listen to Mandy Weingarten. I want to ask you about the CNN syndrome in a second, Carol, But first I do have

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this morning we're having coffee together. I was like, come on, what do you mean, like I need to fight against the Rashians And I was sorry. She was like, now you're really freaking me out right, like you get like a Zelenski thing going. But oh, come on, that's pretty close. I thought, you know, he's very long, he's down here, and he has like this very gruff anyway, I don't see you actually former Soviet you under you know, like

the the intricacies of the accent. Um. I guess my Fauci and my Zelenski probably sound a little too much alike. But yeah, now if you wear an olive like drab T shirt anywhere, um, you you're apparently channeling channeling Zelenski. Okay, so the CNN the CNN effect. Um. Also, wait before I get to that, what do you think about these wedding bands that are made of So I have a you know, the platinum wedding ring that i'll wear now when I go out, and all that sort of stuff.

I guess I like these just the sort of rubber silicone ring that you wear. It's a symbol. It's just more comfortable on your hand. But she's like, you've never heard its great? I just do you know you young people today? I don't know what you're up to, okay, because well, you know, if if I were to go, let's say, if I was to go whale on my pecks at the gym, which could definitely use some some whaling these days. Uh, if you're wearing like an actual

gold or silver or platinum ring. You know, it can get scuffed up, and it can get kind of you know it, you know, clinks against the metal, whereas with this you can go lift. But then she's like, well, are you just gonna wear it for the gym only, or you're gonna wear it all the time? And this is kind of you know. Look, I didn't even wear a tie at my wedding, So I'm just increasingly approaching this functional comfort for everything in life. I think functional

comfort is essential. Uh, and I for you know, so I'm waging a one man war against the necktie. I will tell everybody's suits are not suits for men. I have custom made suits, only a couple of them, but not comfortable. They're not as comfortable as other things that I can just wear. And I think you're right on ties. My husband is overties. Also, we were just talking about my daughter's having a bottom, so soon none of none of the men and my family are wearing a tie.

Some fun history for everybody listening. The tie is a holdover from the court of Louis the fourteenth, who hired a core of mercenaries from Croatia. They were called the cravati, and one way that they would distinguish themselves. This is when battlefield distinguishing was much more important than battlefield camouflage, which also is why you had, for example, the lands Connects of Germany who had very brightly colored colored clothing and that became in a battle. Imagine somebody with bright

orange and red and green. And they would also wear a very prominent cod piece, which there's a whole Freudian aspect to that, I guess. But the but back to Louis the fourteenth The lands Connects, by the way, saved first Siege of Vienna. Talk about that another time. You know, Christendom was about to get overrun by the four forces

of the Ottoman Empire. But you go to fourteenth cent I'm sorry, Louis the fourteenth and uh, he hired the cravati to be in the service of the French military, and they wore a brightly colored cloth around their neck, which came to be known as a cravat or the French cravat the necktie. And so now hundreds of years later, I'm supposed to have some you know, some portrait device around my neck. On a hot day down in Florida, because people says, it's just ridiculous, It's just ridiculous. No,

that's right, thank you. I like that you think this is because people are like, oh, they're they're horrified of this. I think I think the cutter clothing and looking good and all that is, you know, it is a good thing, right, people should try. But I also think that another one, another one, Carol, women who were telling me all the time, tie you know, another one. No, no, but this is for the ladies out there that we're the super hainful shoes and they're walking out. I'm like, look right there,

you see this is crazy to me. You know, I used to be a single man. I would go on dates and I would I would be told, oh, we're let's get a drinking around the corner. It's two blocks away in New York City. And it's like, you know, oh, well, can we get an uber. I'm like, no, it's two blocks away, we're gonna get a car. They go, oh, but these shoes they got, like the the lubotan you know, the red soles or whatever you like, the uncomfortable shoes.

I love high heels. I'm all about it. And it's funny because I like love posting when I when we go you know, if you've seen me do this, when we go out we get a picture, I'm always like, get the shoes in the picture, and that's you know, it makes a better picture. But also I love my shoes. Turns out there's this like creepy subset online of like men who look for like women's feet. Unfortunate very that

I can't be showing off my shoes as often. But you know, I like the nice shoes and they're not always going to be comfortable, and some of them I refer to as sitting shoes. Sometimes I wear a sitting shoe special events, you know, you can do your ring and your no necktie. You can stay away from the I sound like I sound like a bum. And the more I look by the way back of my self the Carol, then I'm like, wow, this really does look like a Zelenski T shirt. I gotta change this up

a little bit. Um okay, fair, fair enough. Next time, I'm gonna wear a shirt with a collar, because that that's somehow, that's somehow fair. I also love telling people all the time about not that I'm some fat I love history. I'm not a fashion guy. But all of the different fashion trends that actually come to us from the military is is that in itself And there probably is a book about this, but somebody should write it. You know, people walk around in trench coats, like, what

are they cold? A trench coat? Well gee, you know, but I mean there's so much more than that. I mean even the British in khaki and where does Madras come from? And all these different things it's all tied into remains very hip with the kids. Oh yeah, well, of course camouflage is very much, you know, a fashion trend, but there's so much of it. Um anyway, I don't want to turn this into a hole. I do have a fun one for you, so you ready for this one,

and then I promise we'll stop talking fashion. But you're like a very fashionable lady. Whenever I go out, there's like there's a group of us that goes out in South Florida together. We all hang out and Carol and there will be a big squad of of conservative media people. You know, one, everybody loves Carol and two you know she's just you know, she she's got some she's got

some some fashion sets. You know. The rest of us were a little uh you know, you know, I'm dressed like I'm a little I'm a little Zelenski want to be over here. Um yeah, but you're a wife. She dressed his real day. Oh she's amazing. Yeah she knows. Whether that's why you two sit together and you look at the peasants across the table, you know, the guys that we're all out, you know, you know, because you know, you know who rocks the comfortable stuff. Your husband. I

gotta say, he likes to look. He likes to be a comfortable guy too. Where to get I've never seen him in the necktie. Does he do the necktie? Oh no, no, he does not do. Next side, That's what I'm telling you, You and him. He does not care. We have we

have solidarity. So the tricorn hat, though, you know, we always think if someone puts on a tricorn hat, they think, oh, like George Washington, the American Revolution, you know, the So it's fascinate because people think it's the most American of things, and in a sense it is. But the tricorn hat actually comes to us because of Spanish mercenaries fighting in

Flanders modern day Belgium. And they had this wide Spanish hat that would get in the way when they were doing maneuvers with their muskets, and so they began to flip up the brim on both sides so that when they were on parade ground and moving their rifle around, it wouldn't actually knock the hat off their head. And then that became a style, and the British were fighting

against them, saw this and realized that makes sense. They started the tricorn hat, which we obviously got from the British in the first place, and that is now as American is apple pie, except it comes from Spanish mercenaries. So history loving nine year old, I think this is the only one he'll ever want to listen to. But I imagine he'll give you at least one. Well, actually, act, surely that's not what happened. This is what happened, because

that's oh nice, that's fine, that's fair. I will say, if he wants their nerd nerd out, you got to give him the buck. Sex didn't show shields high where we do the real Dracula. The history of lad Drakul from the sixteenth century. Fascinating guy, fascinating period of history. I did the Siege of Malta, the Fall of Constantinople. I sit around doing these things, which is probably why I don't. Yeah, I'll send them to you your if your son really loves history, they're very he would love

to talk about it, listen to it. He's like questioning these history competitions. Yeah, I'll send it to him and and then he can send his critique and you can. You can give it to me gently so that I, you know, afterwards, won't feel sad about myself. But I was going to ask the CNN effect that's coming out, But my pillow, do you have my pillows? By the way, do I need to hook you up with some my pillows? Do you not have them? All right, I'm gonna take

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eight hundred seven nine two three two six nine. All right, so I'd mentioned this, I'd promoted this the CNT effect. Here's what I say it is as somebody who had previously worked, I used to be able to have conversations with liberals about things that I disagreed with them on and I still would be willing to do that, by the way, and I've I've I've co hosted shows with left wing people with self described you know, Marxist um,

I've hoped, I saw, so I'm fine with that. I feel though that now, even still in the era of Biden, it is very hard to have a conversation. And this is why I say it's a CNN effect, because anytime he turned on CNN, it was Trump. There was something Trump related. You know, if if if there if an asteroid hit the hit the Earth and and you know, there was like a barn caught on fire in twenty twenty nineteen. It was like Trump fails to prevent asteroid.

I mean, it was just it was a psychosis. Yeah, that that psychosis, to me, has continued, like even though he's not president anymore. I try to talk to a Democrat about anything and it reverts to Trump right away. It's I do think it's like a mental illness aunt of mental illness, parton can't speak. There's some problem. Yeah, No, I think they were deeply damaged by Donald Trump winning. I mean, you were in New York the day after he won the election in twenty sixteen, right. Do you

remember anything about that day? Oh? Yeah, the day it was there. There were two days I was in New York City that reminded me of the day after Hurricane Sandy hit and Donald Trump's election. Felt. I wasn't there for nine to eleven. I was in college. But the day after Hurricane Sandy and the day after Trump won, the field, the energy on the streets exactly the same. Just shock shock. It was a rainy day. People were walking around as if like a meteor had hit and

it was Donald Trump's fault. It was really just amazing to watch it. It was like their lives had ended. And at the time, I really not that I didn't want Trump to win. I preferred him over Hillary Clinton, but I really didn't like him, and I thought that he was going to be a terrible president. And I just you know, but I was like, all right, well, Donald Trump, on, what are you gonna do? That's you know, that's good whatever. And people were just stunned, and I

don't think that they ever got over it. I think that they just were traumatized by it. They expected to win in such a way that that shock when you don't win something that you thought you were going to win. It didn't go away. They it lasted years for them. It's interesting that you call it the CNN effect because I feel like CNN has you mentioned that you can't talk to liberals anymore, and then it's like, you know, but CNN used to have shows where liberals and conservatives

talk to each other, right, and they can't do that. Yeah, yeah, but they can't do that anymore, partially because of wokeness. Wokeness says you cannot engage conservatives in honest conversation, and that's also what they're doing. They're shutting down the honest conversation that you're saying, but Trump, but Trump, And that makes us finding common grounds so much harder because they only have this one thing that they go to and you end up having to defend Trump and everything he's

ever done. Yeah. I think that it has become a it is a form of a psychosis. Uh, it's some there's something about the circuitry of liberal brains now where it look. It's obviously in the case with everybody, but it's enough of a situation, or it's common enough that I think it is a dominant I think it is the majority of the Democrats that I try to engage

within any capacity. Now, if I say, hey, you know, maybe maybe we shouldn't be teaching queer theory in an African American studies program in Florida, which you know, that just came up and they ended up reverting and not having that in the curriculum, people will say to me, oh, so you know, you just think that like what Trump says about CRT and like where are we doing? Like, well,

how do we? And And that's why I get worried, Carol, because when you see, you know, mass movements like bankruptcy, like so many things, it happened suddenly, it happened slowly, then suddenly right it's it's grows over time. And I've seen a mass movement inside of America where people who think of themselves as very discerning, very intelligent, and very good people actually who are who are leftists, who are democrats, liberals, progressives,

whatever they want to call themselves. I call them commies. And I don't mean that, you know, in a nice way, but they will go along with things now that it's not possible for a human being who is capable of independent thought to go along with And this this has become commonplace. Yeah, you're absolutely right. And are you talking about people like in on Twitter or are these people

in your everyday life? Both? Both? Yeah, because I find that the people in my everyday life, even the people on the left, are way more troubled by where the left is going, even if they are themselves pretty far left, even if really they are, there are so many ways that they are on the left. And then suddenly there are a woman's study degree. What does it really mean when we don't know what a woman is right and

and they're challenged by it. They don't know how to handle it, they don't know what to say, and they don't have the easy line that the somebody online you know, on the internet has, where like everyone who doesn't agree with them as a turf, you know, right, you know, intellectually, I do think it's interesting that it's not a problem for a person who is of the right probably speaking to break with the right on some ague. Yeah whatever, you know, you know, score room, I don't I don't care. Oh,

the Republican Party says, you know, I don't care. I think this. I think they're wrong. On the following. Every single conservative I know has a number of issues where you know, they break with the base or they don't like you know, whether it's they don't like the you know, globalist Paul Ryan Republicans, or they do and you know whatever, there are these areas where they'll just have this, have this separation. And I do think though that the left very much like a cult or a totalitary in a

totalitarian state. There's constant fear of saying the imperfect thing that will get them in trouble with their own side. Right and on generations, by the way, that's more prominent, I think than anywhere else. Well, the whole thing is with cancel culture is that a lot of it was left on left. It wasn't necessarily the left coming for conservatives. I mean it is in some ways like you have to bake the cake stories, you know, out of Colorado.

So they do target sort of you know, non leftists, but for the most part it was like you wrote something that I don't like, and if you're on the left, you end up apologizing. And then it's like when you get into that spiral where it's never going to be enough.

Remember that book Dirt. This This woman wrote this book that was a really celebrated American Dirt, very celebrated book, but then it turned out that she wrote about Mexican drug smugglers and she herself was not a Mexican, so she had to apologize, and I think they ended up actually not having any public relations for the book at all, because you know, she had obviously committed the worst sin in history writing about a culture that it was not

her own. But how a conservative writer handled that, They'd be like, okay, and I so what, Yeah, I did that and I'll do it again. And we don't really care as much about their targeting. But once you bend to them at all, you're going to keep bending all the time. That's what we've seen up to this point. And obviously the progression is always request for tolerance and then push for uh, you know, a push for acceptance

and then demands for celebration. Right, That's it just it always is on the same progression progressives, where at first it's just let's just all be cool to each other, right and that. And that's one of the things that frustrates me so much about the approach of the left is that I think on pronouns, for example, and people

say this is small. It is not small. The same way, it's not small to switch from illegal alien to illegal immigrant to undocumented because you know, now at this point it's like, well, let's just give them documents, like what do we need immigration for? Right? I mean, the whole process is undermined by the language itself, the concession of

I'm going to use someone's preferred pronouns. They have used the desire of people on the right to be polite and to be conned in order to get compliance on that issue, for example, and then people get very confused because they go, hold on a second, why does it feel like we're losing this argument? On the other side is crazy because you're conceding the argument. I mean, every time I see a story about a transgender individual in the Daily Mail and even sometimes on Foxnews dot Com,

it referred to what he is a she. So it's interesting because I think my feeling would have been, in general, use somebody's preferred pronoun But obviously I'm not using they, and I'm not using anything invented, and I'm not using any of the new ones. But You're absolutely right where it's never enough. It's never like okay, I'll use your preferred pronoun Well, now I need you to use the

one that I just came up with today. And I'm no longer the pronoun that you thought I was yesterday, and now I'm something new and now I'm plural and and yeah, it's never it never ends. And the thing is that it's not just people on the right that know this. It's just the people on the left are terrified to be canceled and speak, you know, speak out

and have their jobs targeted. And in some ways they deserve it, right like they let this happen to their side, but it is still sort of hard to watch people not be able to speak. I want to ask you about some lessons from the uh, the married world, Carol,

now that I have entered these ranks. And also I want to tell I want to get us into some uh maybe some hot water by talking about what the kids, and I mean the youth, you know, the young people today need to know about relationships and truth and society and all the right because now that I'm married guy, now I feel like I can lecture everybody and everything just be like, hey, hold on, this is you know when it comes to the young ones, you know what

I mean, the young bloods out there that think that you know, just all a big party. Oh no, I'm here to tell them about other things. But I also want to take I gotta take a moment for our sponsor here, which does incredible work, the Tunnel the Towers Foundation. The Tunnel of the Towers Foundation honors fallen and severely injured heroes and their families with mortgage free homes. It's

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you know. Now there's a great it's unit. Nate Bargatzy, the comedian, God, my favorite. I like to brave about him all the time. He's such a fan. Yeah, I'm a fan too. It's so nice to it's funny because I just it's amazing to see that a brand. The same way today, there are people whose brands in journalism is that they actually do journalism, you know what I mean. Like they're not actually a propagandist or a partisan activist

for one side of the other. They just they'll they'll tell the stories that need to be told, and they don't really care. And look, they're not perfect, but they're that's that's a fair assessment of what their approach to their work is. Nate Bargatzi is just a comedian. He's actually just trying to tell jokes that make people laugh that anyone can laugh at that are funny. I think he does a great job. But he does this thing that you might not have noticed yet about him, but

you hopefully will down the road. All of his specials are super kid friendly, no cursing, no like actually anything. Yeah, really like My twelve year old daughter loves him. We watch like his clips all the time. Watched all three specials. He's just family friendly. It's so weird to be hilarious and family friendly. Yeah, he does such a such a good job. But he has a thing where when you're forty one or four, forty three, you're like, do you

see the re member? You're forty three and you're like, yeah, like I can hang out with the twenty somethings, you know, But like when you're see some guys forty five, you're like, whoa old man? Like get out of here, you know, because your your whole perception changes. Now now that I'm married, I turn around and everybody out there under forty in single, single world, I just I just want to, you know, shake my walker or my my walking stick, my cane

in their face. You know, y'all get off my lawn and say, you know, what, what are all you kids doing out there with the crazy h the messaging and and the look. I'll say, what they're teaching women? In society today about how to conduct their private lives is I think is super destructive. It's super destructive at a civilizational I think that it's something that needs to really be dealt with in a serious way as part of

an urgent conversation. I think that basically to be a Democrat or a leftist feminist woman in America today is to put yourself on an almost certain path to misery. That is my basic contention. Yeah, I have to agree with you. I think that women are allied to more than anyone else in terms of relationships, and I think that they're taught to not ask for what they want, the idea that they can just date around and not

care about it. Women are different than men. And what's interesting to me is that you know it comes from the left, this whole idea of like, why would you want to get married, You want to pursue your career. I've never met a woman, and I think you and I maybe even disagreed on this one, but I've never met a woman who actually pursued a career over a man. I know that there are women who pursued a career

and didn't get married. That happens, but there's plenty of women who didn't or a career and didn't get married. I've never met a woman who was on a good career path who didn't also want to get married. But it just they tell them that it doesn't matter that you can be strong and amazing alone and you don't need a man. What do you need a man for? You could open your own jars. And it's just the

wrong message. And they teach that relationships are lame and boring and only you know, the worst people want to be in them. You want to be single and free. And then when a woman realizes that that's all a lie, a lot of times it's too late. Here's my contention.

I don't know if we've talked about this. I think the show Sex in the City, as clever and entertaining as it was, is it's almost as though the Commies were trying to come up with a way to infiltrate American culture and society, to destroy, to destroy male female relationships from within, you know, to just have the whole thing implode on itself. To me, that show is a very entertaining, fifthy roadmap to misery for you know, as somebody who lived in New York basically his whole life

till I moved to Florida. I just saw it. I saw it all over the place, and I would see these women money go ahead. Yeah. My counter to that would be that eventually all of them got married and

settled down. The lie in that show is that it's so easy to find a right the right person as a woman when you're in your late thirties late forties in that show, and that it's just you know, your Samantha, and you're a high powered PR executive and you marry like the hottest man anybody's ever seen, and that he's gonna just be super all about you even though you're in your fifties and he's in his twenties, and that's going to make sense that generally does not happen. So

that's the kind of lies that that show told. I think that. But the thing is that they all did eventually kind of settle down into relationships, and that's ultimately what they wanted. Well, you know, I guess not to get too into this because it's like, why do I know so much about this show? I mean, main character never really does right as we know. Then, then the movies were made and not that I saw the movies, but you know, she ends up. She kind of does

and she kind of doesn't. But just the the chasing of these career first lives that they have and and the one character who doesn't really uh you know, the burnette I can't really remember um Amery can't remember her name, but anyway, her whole thing, and not like why does Buck still think about Sex in the City. It was very popular in HBO when I was, you know, high school age. Everybody was watching it. I mean it was a show that Beverly Hills nine two and HBO, I mean,

or Sex and the City and HBO. I mean, these were the shows that everybody was watching. And I see all these women. I mean, I remember when I graduated from Amherst and there were all these women who were rushing off to go work at Goldman Sachs and you know, from my class. I remember thinking to myself, like, you know, I'm a guy. If I want to spend my twenties, and I went to the CIA and you know, then did some other kind of crazy stuff, but that was

my choice. But if I if I was going to spend my twenties, um making a lot of money, which is what people going to invest in banking for. This may be a shock and not so much anymore, but this, you know, twenty years ago, is what people were doing. I would assume that I'm mortgaging my twenties at some level, like I'm just gonna burn out as much as i can, get as much worked on, get as far as I can, and make as much money as I can, and develop as much prestige from the competency that I have as

I can. So then at thirty or thirty five, or even forty or even forty five, I can turn around and have my choice of mates. And I just feel like no one ever stopped to tell the women who showed up at Golden Sacks or and not just any big firm or corporate law whatever, at any of these places. Hey, you're twenty three or twenty four. If you do this for the next ten years and this is really your focus,

your life choices are changed forever. Just understand that. Yeah, So here's another way that the left destroys the path to women. If you are one of these women and you go into this high powered, high energy and high earning environment, it would be great to meet a man there, except men now can't hit on you in the workplace because there they'd be sexual predators, and you're not allowed to date at work, and there's all these issues around that. But meeting somebody at work used to make a lot

of sense. And if you wanted to meet somebody who was a go get or a Goldman Sax, there's really not a better place to meet them than at Goldman Sax. So it's again, the left is destroying the idea of relationships for these women when that's ultimately what they're going to want. And I do see a rise in a willingness among conservatives in general now to speak with much more forcefulness about about gender roles and about what's going to make for a long term, happy plan. And you

know what society, right, there's everyone. Look, there's always going to be somebody who just wants to travel the world and write books. And that's fine. It's not that people shouldn't have freedom and choice male, female or whatever, but it's what does society offer as a path that should be replicated in as great as great a frequency as possible to create the most happy, productive and stable society possible. Right, I mean, you know, every policy is going to have exceptions.

Everything in the macro, when you break it down to an individual level, is going to have musications that are different. That's fine. Where people say, well, do you think priests are throwing their lives away or you know whatever, because obviously they don't marry, it's no. Obviously there are people that don't need to go down this pathway. But the other pathway that they're told about, which is just and it's for women, I'll tell you it's for guys too.

It's not good. You know. I think that telling people to spend their twenties partying, drinking, and having sex with as many women as they possibly can, which is what socially successful males are basically told to do, not necessarily as many as possible. But you know, there's a lot of that that goes on that's not actually helpful for and for those individuals. I think later on and people say, oh, you know again, I've been married for two days and

all of a sudden, I'm an expert and everything. But I've known this stuff. I've known this stuff for a long time. I'm coming up on fourteen years, so I can definitely play the expert here. Yeah, men, are lied to also, But again, like you said, the man's window is just wider, and that's the only reason that the men get away with it more than the women do.

There's plenty of men who have been destroyed by that culture and who find themselves alone and maybe want to get married but don't know how to connect, and they spent their twenties just messing around with random girls, and it is harder for them to find the right person for themselves. So one of the other ways that the left tells women that they have to like certain things and they can't like other things, and they just don't think that men get the same message That show madmen.

You know about the ad executives on Madison Avenue in the sixties, there was the character played by John Hamm and he was like this hard drinking, chain smoking, you know, womanizing, just jerk, And all these liberal magazines would write these like tehehe pieces about how attracted they were to the character Don Draper and how they knew that they weren't

supposed to be. But men don't really have that, you you know, you don't really have the like I'm attracted to the cocktail Wagers, but I feel so bad about it. But the left makes women feel bad about what they're attracted to, and that's crazy. What you're attracted to is what you're attracted to. And the fact that you know Don Draper did it for so many women is a sign that they liked a more powerful guy and that you weren't supposed to like him, and you knew you

weren't supposed to like him. Is what the left and force is here. So you used to live in Brooklyn, so you know plenty of people on the left, and you're cool, so you have cool left wing friends. Did any of your cool left wing female friends, to your knowledge, actually think that a guy that was interested in them romantically who described himself as a male feminist was doing himself any favors. I think the ones that I knew knew that any male feminist was likely just China get

in their pants. But you know, I know that there's a wider world where the male feminist does enjoy some you know, perks of being a male feminist. I also I lived on a commune in Scotland where everybody was a male feminist. And yeah, the ones who could successfully argue their case and make it seem like they weren't just after one thing did quite well with the ladies. It's just stunning, stunning the scams that people could pull off.

Do you think that there's a room or a necessity even for the right and for the Republican Party to really start to articulate a family and you know, traditional family values agenda again, I feel like it fell off. I used to hear about this all the time in the nineties. Oh you know that, you know, traditional family. Various people talk about Philish Laughley and how she defeated the Eagle Rights amament, and there was all this discussion of you know, you know, focus on the family, support

the family. It fell off, and it does feel like now the left and the Democrat Party is just at its core run by a lot of unhappy you know, cat ladies with blue hair and nose rings, right, And I think there should be but it has to be done in a cooler way. I mean, social media just changed everything. So now the left has on social media, like you know, polyamory is very popular on social media, and you have these couples like arguing on social media.

How you know, monogamy is so out and it's so outdated and it's like, do you think you're the first people to try this? Like, do you think that throughout civilizations they haven't considered the idea of being with multiple partners? You're not that unique, and yet you think that you come up with this new idea that's going to work for only you and nobody else, you know, throughout history, And the fact is it never works. And that's why

people settle onto monogamy. It's not because we don't have the imagination to consider having multiple partners, is because it's always a fail. And so I think the right should target this kind of messaging and show relationships as being a positive thing. If relationships are always a downer, I can see why the marriage rate is decreasing, but you know, even beyond just the marriage rate, which is a problem, and then the birth rate, you know, declining is a

giant problem. People are having fewer relationships, they're having fewer friendships. All of this is very bad for our society and it needs to be turned around, and it has to be turned around in a smart way, and social media really should be utilized in this pursuit. Do you think I think it's Professor Scott Galloway at Nyu who you know, spits fire about Trump and says a lot of things I think about the right in general that are are

not intelligent and not well thought out. But he does say some things on social broader social issues you know, think I'm talking about. By the way, he's started to pick up a lot of team. He's been on Bill Maher recently. He's there tiktoks and things like that with him. Um, but he talks about what he calls uh por Porsche polygamy, and he says that in the world of dating apps, which you know, everyone's always walking around coming up with their story for how they met their person that is

not we met on a dating app. It's kind of funny right when you realize right now, I mean, it's it's gone to the point where, um, if you're not on dating apps, actually you're almost not in the dating pool if you're a single person, because it's there's just such a there's been such a change, and people don't go to nightclubs anymore the same way, you know, because it works and because this is but you also work, they're not allowed to meet at work anymore, which oh yeah,

they're not. You're oh no, you're you're definitely it's very suspect. I mean I I, for example, I've never dated anybody at a company, never mind like a direct report or anything like that. I've never dated anybody at a company where I have been an employee, with the exception of the CIA. But like that's you know, like that's like

going to a that that's enormous. And you know, there's you want to think about the CIA is if you don't want to see the person you're dating to the CIA again, you never will because you know who knows whether to be said next. But in a you know, even there there were very kind of strict rules about about reporting requirements and things like that if you had a relationship internally, you know, in the same office or

anything like that. I just think that you have this situation where women are being and maybe now this is getting a more contentious territory. Women are being trained to think like men in their dating selection. And you see that so Zi Gallery talks about porship, progresivism, sorry portship polygamy where he says that eighty percent of the women have an interest in only twenty percent of the men.

Basically that you have this and and that women are instead of choosing for things that require more of a relationship. Basis to understand, I know the flip side of this women's but men are so superficial, which brings us to the Yes, men are more superficial about women's appearance than women. That this is the way it has been in all

of human history until now. But you have all these women who are saying I won't get a guy who's under six foot two, and I you know, and I want a guy with a six pack, and I want a guy with like lots of tattoos all over his arms and these sorts of things, And that this is creating a society where thirty percent of men, I think he said this is again from Scott Gallery, thirty percent of men under thirty haven't had a sexual relationship in

the last year. That's main blowing, right, And are the women, I mean, are the women having sexual relationships because if it seems like the eighty percent can't be just sleeping with the twenty percent, right, So you know, it's it's funny. You're right, men do go for looks more than you know women do or have. Maybe that's changing now, but women used to go for security and I don't think that was a bad thing. I don't think, you know, women choosing partners who are not going to be bad

toa is a bad thing. I don't know. I really don't understand the concept that I see a lot on social media now where the woman only wants the guy who doesn't want her, And that makes no sense to me. That's like, I can't imagine liking somebody who does not like me. That just does not compute at all. And that's like what's happening now that they're being kind of trained to like the ones who will never like them back.

I also think that there's this again, there's this desire to treat men and women as though the same, whether it's in sports now and all this stuff, that there's this same enforced sameness that does not exist. Men and women process sexual relationships differently emotionally. I don't know. People say, oh, I know women that could you know they can sleep with a hundred guys, and it's a no, Actually, it

really is just not true. And they can tell themselves this as much as they want, But the psychological toll on women of conducting themselves this way, and I've seen it from plenty of women that I know, and plenty women I know who never get in the number. It would be stunning, I think, to the people in the

rest of the country. The number of really good looking, really interesting and compelling in a whole range of ways women in New York City thirty five to forty five that are not married, we'll probably never get married, and we'll probably never have children. I think would blow the minds of people who don't live in you know, DC

or LA or you know San Francisco. Yeah, I think that big cities have the worst problem of telling women what they should be interested in and what they should be looking for, and how that really doesn't fit in with what women are and what we actually feel and all those other things. You're right, we're not the same. I don't know why we need to be the same. I don't want to be like a man. You guys are just not that great. Yeah, I mean, you know we kind of smell sometimes. Yeah, we all we got

we all got manned thighs. You know which we're not. You know, women and women were constructed for for beauty and aesthetics and and you know the you know, you're all aphrodites. You know you're all God's gift and creating the next generation. And guys, you know we can dress. We can dress like Zelenski when we don't even mean to, and things like that can happen. We already married anymore.

That's right. Um, I didn't say that allowed today. So everybody should go get Carol's book, which you should get on Amazona where you get fine books, Stolen Youth and coming out March seventh. And also New York Post commist Carol Markowitz and also one of the people that helped convince me to move to Florida. So thank you for that, Thank you for coming. We're really happy to have you. I thank you in the acknowledgements of the book. I

thank the Florida Crew. Oh nice, I'm very I'm very honored to get an acknowledgement as part of the Florida Crew. So we're going to save America and Carol is one of the key people in that process. Carol, thank you so much for being with this Sharon's Wisdom. We'll have you back soon. Thanks so much. U