Jacqueline Toboroff - NYC Gets Trumped Up

York girl, though I'm a former fellow New Yorker. Jackie. Great to have in the show first time. Thank you. I'm so excited to be here. So you were actually down there earlier this week at the Trump indictment arraignment situation. Just tell everybody, you know, what's that like, What was the vibe? What was the feel? The vibe was amazing. So Gavin Wax and the New York Young Republicans put it together. This was their second one. The first was in March on the twenty first, I think when news

first broke today. It was the second one. They had Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green as one of the speakers, and it was they invited members to their club, so it was basically all locals. No one was bust in to riot, to arson, to loot, to assault. It was very orderly,

with a couple of exceptions. It turns out after going on to Twitter that New York City council person Shays Say was handing out whistles so that agitators could basically blow out ear drums of people they're protesting Alvin Bragg. But it was very civil, orderly. Everyone was cheering for Marjorie Taylor Green. And again this is in New York City, this is in Manhattan, and there was genuine support. What do you think it means now that it's official. I

mean Trump is indicted, the indictment is out. This is really happening. Just start first with I mean, as a New Yorker, it must be very weird. I mean this is how I feel as a you know, thirty some odd year New Yorker feels weird that this native son of New York, of Queens no less, became president and now he's being pulled back to his hometown to face the most absurd charges I've really ever seen in any criminal proceeding. Yeah, I think the people that were at

this protest today. There were plenty of them that were in support of Trump, and then there were just plenty of them that didn't see how indicting him and arresting him would make their lives any better. You know, I'm a mom of two. I don't know how this improves education. I don't know how this improves crime. I don't know how this improves the illegal crisis, drug crisis, the homeless encountments.

So there were plenty of people there that might not have necessarily been Trump supporters, but they were certainly not in support of what Alvin Brad is doing. Where do you think it goes? I mean, I'm just wondering. You know, there's there's now the possibility the judge will throw the whole thing out. I'm sure there'll be a bunch of motions. I would bet that it will not be thrown out. My assumption is that they're going to let this play

out and go to a jury. The part of this that I have not gotten a single good explanation for yet is what do they want? Meaning? If they were to get you know, usually you have a plead. This is a it's a misdemeanor campaign finance charge right that they've elevated to a felony based upon a nonindicted federal crime that has nothing to do with the local, local state statute at issue about you know, falsifying records or whatever.

Are they going to try to send him a jail, because I mean, what, really is this going to turn into one hundred thousand dollars fine for Trump? Is like buying a soda for the rest of us? Like, what are they think this is going to do? We know the politics of it, but legally it just feels like the whole thing is just crazy. I mean, look, I think it's so clear that these people just hate this country. And I saw that Leezeldon put out a tweet and he said that they are hurting America. That's the point

that they're hurting America. They don't like America. This is this isn't a big deal to them. I'm unsure whether they took his photo for a monk shop, but then there was news that they weren't going to They want him disappeared. It feels like they want him in Siberia. They don't want even though this is happening in Manhattan and there naturally has so much attention on it. It's almost like they just want to they just want to disappear him. It's it's really just perverted and sick. And

I mean thirty four counts. What are these thirty four counts? I mean you've been You're from New York City. You know what's going on here. I mean, rapists and murderers are roaming free. I want to ask you next about how the city, how the city is doing, or we're going to get into how Eric Adams is doing the latest just feel of walking around on the streets there and you know how how we're going to get to to all that. But but just on on this Trump issue.

I mean, do you get the sense right now? I mean you were there, I know, with a bunch of young Republicans club members in New York City. Is it just Trump for you? Or Trump for you already? Like it's you don't even want to see the primary play out? Have you already decided in your mind? Or do you want to see I was voting for I mean I voted for Trump before. I'm one hundred percent voting for Trump again. I unlike some of the other people, I have no issue with dessentists I just don't know. We

have Trump. Things were great under Trump. I just don't understand why we would go towards descantists. So I'm already committed to who I'm voting for. UM. I think really surprisingly that the the Democrats are counting on these suburban moms to reject Donald Trump. I think what's going to happen is the urban moms are going to reject the Democrats. I I see such a repulsion here from moms again about this, the left's attack on women, the crime school.

I just I really think we're going to be surprised by New York City and specifically by the moms. We're gonna come back to that in just a second. But first, do you, by the way, do you have any my pillow gear at home? Like, do you have the slippers of anything? There we go. I knew, I knew that Jackie was going to say yes, because it's amazing stuff. I've actually got here. I've got them on right now. I'm getting over a coal but I've got my my slippers right here, which are amazing, by the way, I

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shows I've done talking about this. But I still love New York and I'm still rooting for New York and I haven't ruled out that one day I would at least spend part of if not, you know, permanently, my my life back up, How is it going under Mayor Eric Adams? Like, honestly, not just I know under de Blasio? The answer was, he's awful top to bottom. He does nothing right, He's an imbecile. Okay, that was de Blasio. What's the honest assessment of Mayor Eric Adams in New

York City right now? Like, walk me the honest assessment. The honest assessment is Eric Adams is a hundred times worse than to Blasio. He was pitched as a moderate. This guy, let me tell you something. From the very beginning, he ran his campaign on race and from the basement, no one pushed back on anything. He barely made it through his primary, and he has been an unmitigated disaster. So I have some numbers here. Within the past two years, crime across the seven majors is up forty five point

forty percent. Okay, rape rape is up six point five percent, and Graham larceny auto is up almost one hundred percent, ninety three point five percent. It's a disaster. Arrests are down fifty two percent of all of the arrests have been downgraded. All of the crimes are downgraded. We are emptying prisons. We have, as I said before, a homeless crisis. We have illegal weed shops sprouting up on every other block.

It's like Starbucks. They're ubiquitous. What else I mean? We have outmigration, we have a wrecking ball to the educational complex. It's a disaster. It's really a disaster. I mean the highlight was the rally this morning. It was a disaster. So I don't understand this part of the equation. Right, you're still in New York. It's eighty twenty Democrat to Republican in New York City, and in that's across the whole city. In Manhattan, I think it's more like ninety ten. Right,

It's Manhattan has become an enplay of comming nonsense. Sadly, it's where I was born and raised. You two, and I'm wondering, what do the people who voted What are the Democrats who voted for Adams say to you, or like, what is the conversation like with him? Do they think he's doing a good job. Well, firstly, voter turnout, as you know, was abysmal. It was very low. So this

is what you get with very low voter turnout. Again, he was pitched by the media as a moderate, so people maybe shrugged it off and thought, look, this guy worked with the NYPD. Finally we're going to have someone who's tough. I'm crime. Don't forget we had some wackos running against him. I mean we had Maya Wiley, we had someone who was head of the sanitation. This is on the heels of garbage piles up to the sky. It was a disaster. So we have Adams, and I

think that people are into camps. There are the people that are deluded and they think everything is great and they live in their doorman buildings on the Upper West Side. And then there are the people that are really galvanizing. And again I hate to go back to this, but it really is. It's the moms you know, things get real in the field once you have kids. And really there's a common phenomenator. Everyone wants a good school and everyone wants to feel safe. And we have neither of

those two things. Under Adams, everything is worse. The priority is always criminals over constituents. What is he focused on? I mean, it's just amazing to me because you know New York it's when and then this is true because you know, I do a radio show and we're on basically five hundred stations or on base really all over

the country. Right, But we always say that New York was the place that the whole country looked to for the Juliani crime miracle turnaround situation that then was replicated in terms of the policing and the strategy in a lot of other places across the country. Right. So, because it worked in America's biggest city in the nineties, going from over two thousand murders in nineteen ninety two three hundred murders by the early two thousands something like that,

maybe maybe you know the low four hundreds. Because of that, people will understand that New York is this symbol right for what could be possible, And Adams was the one thing that I mean, I was still living in the city at the time. I remember the one thing that everybody was saying, other than you know, COVID and Triple Mask and be lunatics, was this guy needs to clean up the city in terms of crime, also in terms of like sanitational the streets by the way, the city

was getting dirtier. It really was that. You know, they'd cut the sanitation budget, as you know, And it seems to me like all he has to do is look at what has worked in the past and have a maniacal focus as mayor on that, on bringing down these numbers, and he'd be not just a good mayor, a national hero and a likely Democrat presidential contender in the future.

It's so obvious. What is he unwilling to do it, or is he not capable of doing it because of the realities of the Democrat Party around him today or whatever. I don't think that's it. I really don't think the Democrat Party believes at this point that cleaning up the city, which includes literally cleaning it up as well as making it safer, is a value that they share with the rest of us. I just I think that that's the

real disconnect. I don't think he would be accepted in those circles if he cleaned up the city at all. I think he'd probably lose his value to the Democrat Party. I mean, right here in city Council, we just had a group I've forgot how many they are a number, but they're part of now the Progressive Caucus. They were literally kicking out Democrats from city Council that did not

agree to completely abolish the NYPD. So, I mean, to your point, I don't know if cleaning up the city would secure him any higher office within the Democrat Party at all. Well, to do it, you'd have to lock more people up. You'd have to reincarceer rate instead of d incarcer rate, which has been the mantra of so

many Democrat controlled cities for a long time now. And I think that the activist and donor class of the Democrats, whether in New York or in any major left wing enclave across the country, they're just unwilling for that to happen right now. Maybe at some level it's there's a stubbornness.

They don't want to admit that they were wrong through the policy change, right, But also I mean to your point about the people who live on the Upper West Side in the doorman buildings, and I know plenty of them,

and so do you. I think that they would rather people in poorer neighborhoods live in less safety, greater jeopardy of suffering from crime, including violent crime, as long as they themselves, meaning the rich people get to feel good about themselves and are getting the virtue signaling points in their peer group that matters more to them. And that's the calculation they make. A hundred percent, I mean, that's

what it is. I mean, look at cnpole just came out eighty percent of New York City residents say crime is a serious issue. Eighty percent. So going back, New York City is eight to one Democrat to Republican and eighty percent or saying crime is a serious issue. Yeah, it seems like this should be the most obvious, the most obvious pathway forward laid out for a may or for administration you could ever find. But also, you know, recently in the city, what was it just over the weekend,

there was that and I know that garage. I've actually spent a lot of time in that area, you know, near in between Hudson Yards and actually where my old studio used to be. And so I've just I've been around there a lot. I know, I haven't, you know, not like super familiar with the garage, but I know it by sight. And that guy who confronted somebody who was coming clearly a career criminal with I think over

twenty arrests already, twenty arrests. I mean, you think by arrest number five you might start to question some of your life choices. But twenty arrests and the guy pulls out a gun shoots him. It's amazing. The guy Musa I believe was his name, the employee he turned the gun on the individual shot him after being shot, So he shot the criminal. It's remarkable. He's not dead. And he spent the weekend chained to his bed at Bellevue under attempted murder charges. Because Alvin Bragg is a pro

criminal psychopath. I don't know how else to put it, Like what I know, he dropped the charges and we're also to think that's fine. What kind of maniac charges the I mean, the fact pattern was very clear. An employee of the place, he didn't bring the gut in there. He wasn't trying to steal anything Like, it's just, well, how do you live with that? How do you deal with that? Jokes on Musa, he thought that, you know, defending himself was some sort of right. It's not here

in New York City. It really Again, it's it's just pro criminal. Every single policy favors that of a criminal over law abiding residents. It's it's really it's terrifying. Quite frankly, it's really terrifying. You don't you go to see It's interesting me because you're actually a lot of people talk about like, oh, we're gonna do you run for city council in New York. You're involved in politics in New York.

So just to be clear to everybody, you're not you know, you're not a mom who's saying maybe somebody else is gonna pick up the tours and try to do something. You're you're actually trying to charge up that hill in this nest of very wealthy commies in New York City. Like you're actually trying to charge up that hill. Um, well, I want to come back to that actually and ask you a little bit about the internal political dynamics and running for city council. And I'll maybe if I remember

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By the way, are you shocked when you because you must be coming across the the Democrat positions and everything because city council, I feel like they have to fake the Democrats have to fake people out at the state level, not so much in New York and California, but you know they have to they have to sound not completely insane um just because of the national level profile those kinds of roles as well. But city council, I mean, you know, you go to a Democrat enclave. I remember

the college. I went to the town. The town council declared that it was a nuclear weapon free zone in the town, like they actually passed the resolution. Like you know, these people can be totally wacko. How wacko is the New York City Council. The New York City Council is freaking wacko. I mean, it's ground zero of wacko. The good news for me when I was running is I knew nothing. I was never politically active before. I had no basis. It's not like I tried this a couple

times and had any sort of clue. I went in guns blazing figuratively, and I truly it was one of the best experiences of my life. I would encourage anyone who is sick of the policies and what's outside their front door, actually inside their front door, to run. It's beyond me why people look for others to lead them. And you know, even going back again to this rally, all the people that were criticizing Gavin Watts, at least he did something. I mean, people need to stop waiting

to be told what to do. You really need to be told by someone to take off a mask after three years, you know, you know, people need to exhibit some sort of personal agency in their lives. Are you coming across Democrat moms who are red pilled at this point? I mean, are you coming across Democrat moms who realize that they are casting votes and have been casting votes for their own kids, especially if they're boys, they're teenagers, to be more likely to get, you know, beaten with

a bottle on their way home by some lunatic. More likely that they themselves, as women, maybe assaulted on the Street's more likely that there'll be some maniac relieving himself on their front door wherever they live in Manhattan, Like this is what goes on in New York. I mean, I'm not you know, everyone can just look at the headlines and look at the reality. There are there Democrat moms who are being red pilled. They're freaking attacking me.

They stopped me on the street. Anyone that lives in my district that recognizes me from when I ran, or that follows me on Instagram, they attack me. I mean, I look, I'm a Republican. I've always been a Republican. In my house. It was when we were growing up, who is more Republican? We never had those awkward family dinners or anything like that, so I never thought it was weird to be a Republican. Quite frankly. That being said, I know my audience, and Democrats seem to think that

everyone is their audience. They always assume I'm one of them, you know, and I'm not one of them. But in any event, anytime I'm walking home from school or I'm going to pick up drop off and I run into someone, the first thing they say is, I can't believe I voted for this person. I don't even care which Republican is running, I'm voting for him or her. They are completely red pilled. I think there was the death knell of CRT critical race theory that really did it for them.

Plenty of these parents were believe it or not, okay masking, they were even okay vaxing. It was really the CRT in schools. They just they've had it. They've had it, and of course the crime. How can you fix the schools the public'sool system. I mean to what we talked about before. In New York City. You have all these people and I know them and you know them. We grew up around them who will defend the public school system like their life depends on it. And then you'll

be like, where do your kids go to school? And they're like, well, I can send them to a sixty thousand dollars year private school obviously. Yeah. Wait, why you say the public school system is great, and you love teachers unions, but your kids. You know, one of the great moments of hypocrisy, if you remember, back to the back to the early in the Obama administration, was when then President Obama was on board with cutting funding for

DC charter schools. If you remember this, so all these kids, including a lot of minority kids, who were doing phenomenally well in publicly funded schools, just with a different approach and not as beholden to the teachers unions, etc. He was gonna cut funding to them, or you know, he was favorable too, I should say, cutting funding to them. And this was in the district of Columbia, you know,

so it's a federal, federal protect it. And his kids were going to Sidwell Friends or whatever, which at the time was forty five thousand dollars a year. And everybody looked at this like, yep, this is this is democrats. This is what they do. It's absolutely true in New York City. So how do you fix the public school system. I don't think you do fix the public school system unless you break up the teachers unions. They are completely political animals. They donate ninety nine point nine percent of

the time to Democrats, Democrat candidates or Democrat causes. They are They're a pack. I mean, they are a political entity and they need to be completely broken up. That's the only way you fix public school education. Like even on the at the city council level, you know how how much of an influence? Well, actually a better question would be even for the mayor's race. For example, could you be elected mayor of New York City if the

teachers unions mobilize against you? I mean, realistically, is it possible? I I think it is possible. So you know, there are fifty one members of City Council creating this body, and they basically they have a lot of influence over the mayor. The mayor like for example, Mayor Giuliani, he knew how to rule the city council. Mayor Adams does not. And within the purview of city council is weighing in on all local agencies such as the NYPD and the

Department of Education. So city Council has a big say in education and Mayor Adams is ultimately the one presiding over it. Again, this educational failure is his. He also installed one of the Banks brothers. What is his name, David Banks, one of his longtime friends. It's a really weird It's kind of like Tammany Hall. You have Philip Banks, who is the Deputy mayor. It was like this newly

created post for him. And then you have Philip. Then you have Philip Banks's brother, David Banks, who is now head. He's the Chancellor of Education. And all three two Banks brothers and Eric Adams go way back. It's a very strange relationship. Can I be saying this anyway? It's a strange relationship, and one of them is presiding over the

educational situation that we have and it's a disaster. So New York City taxpayers spend the most out of any person in the nation, twenty eight thousand dollars per public school student annually, and the prize is being in the bottom half of the nation for reading and writing. That's what we get, twenty eight thousand dollars. That's before you've taken any into consideration anything else special meets children, it's

much more. But yeah, it's amazing because you think about what, let's call it thirty grand just to make it a round number. If people could pick where they wanted to put their dollars of thirty thousand dollars a year for purely educational purposes for their kids. What that would do to the system, And you know, I've seen it. I don't know, do you know. Mike Zernovich really really smart, interesting,

interesting guy, you know Mike. I mean, he's fiery right, like he'll say whatever's on his mind, but he has some very interesting thoughts, you know, he tweeted out recently, look at what we've done on meaning the country has done on constitutional and concealed carry issues, effectively expanding dramatically

the ability of law. And there was a time not long ago, twenty years ago, when that seemed crazy, like, oh my gosh, what do you mean, We're just lucky they're not taking all of our guns, right, But the work is done at the local level. And I think that's what's so interesting. That's why one of the reason I want to talk to you, because you look at things like school choice. School choice that works locally in a city in particular, or even in one state, provides

a model for other places around the country. And this is what Rohnda Santis down in Florida is obviously trying to do with the schools well with everything, which is provide a model of governance that other Republican states can follow. I know you can't do that, generally speaking in New York because of the political makeup, but it does feel like any room to experiment with the New York school system that just shows what works and shows how much

the current system doesn't work could have effect. Right other places look at and SAC which is why they hate obviously, it's why they hate charter schools, and Harlem Success Academy comes under attack from the left, which is insane. I'll tell you the truth, though, there's a big issue that no one wants to discuss regarding school choice, specifically here in New York City, and that is that private schools have lost their independence. You have big government, you now

have big education. The truth of the matter is many of these private schools, if you go onto their website, they have opted into accreditation and what that means is that they are beholden to public school rules. So when we talk about school choice, we really need to understand this shouldn't be a Republican talking point. There actually has to be a choice, and quite frankly, here in New York City, there is no choice. Moms. Here are the

choices for you. You can go to public school, or you can spend fifty to sixty thousand on a private school and have it at like a public school. Well, one thing that I do know is that even my own, my own grammar school which I won't name, but people could figure it out pretty easily. I talked to people recently about it because I got a tour of it, and they've spent I walked past the school. This is actually kind of funny. I walked past the school during COVID,

just randomly. I was up on the upperas side visiting visiting a friend, and my science teacher from when I was a kid just happened. She still teaches there, So we're going back like thirty years or something. Now still teaches there, and she, which is crazier I think about. She says like, Oh, you've got to see this game in this whole tour, and it's amazing what they've done. I mean, they have spent tens of millions of dollars. I mean, I remember we played basketball in the lunch

room where we also had our school play. I'm not kidding. We had one room that was for our gymnasium. They'd roll tables out for our lunch, and now they've got like an amphitheater. It looks like something out of Harvard. I mean, it's just crazy. And I was like, wow, this would be amazing. And I was like, well, you know, I didn't you know, the bank roll would have to be pretty big to be able to send my son here one day. But I thought about it, and I

talked to somebody who has a kid there. She's like, she's like, it's communists now, woke d ei transagenda. I'm like, transagenda, communist stuff. It's sixty k a year yep, for grammar school. This is really this is the crux of it. When people discuss school choice, there has to be a choice, and right now there unfortunately, there really isn't a choice. Also, a lot of the schools are the private schools are looking to unionize. That will be it, that will be

the death knell to the private school. I hadn't even I hadn't even heard that. Really, that's yeah, little Oh I shouldn't. I'm not going to name them, but they're quite a few, you know, I just I have to ask. I mean, this is I was gonna say, can we close on a on a hopeful note here, Jackie. I don't know that's really possible today, given what's going on with the country. But what keeps you there? You know? I mean because because I used I used to talk.

I was a I'm gonna be here when the last skyscraper crumbles and and the and the you know, the hammer and sickle is flying over Central Park like I'm gonna be here, damn it, I'm not. And then eventually during COVID, I was just like you, the people, not the administration. I was like the people that live here and vote here in Manhattan, not sat N Island, not you know, Nassau County in Manhattan are too crazy. I can't do this anymore. I'm out. I regretted it one day.

Since are you thinking about it? Are you there? Are you actually in it to win it till the end? I'm not. I'm not seating New York City. Wow, look at that. No, I'm not not gonna abandon it. I really do. I think we can win it back, and why should give it to them? I love it so much?

Like that's the thing. I love New York so much, and I just love you know, it makes me so sad that that they've done this to that city and the people who say, oh, it's really not that bad all this stuff, that really is actually, especially when you understand when you've lived in another place and you see what your tax rate is Texas, Florida, Tennessee, Nevada, you know a bunch of them, and then you realize that not only are you going through this stuff in New

York City and paying incredibly high cost of living, the highest cost of living really in the country, you are paying the city government for the privilege of being there and the state government for for them to basically spit in your face and act like maniacs and you know, suck at everything. I don't know what else to say, like it's too much, but you're you're not You're not getting You are a honey badger in New York City. You just don't give a what. You are not going

to abandon it. And I respect that so much. Jackie. Where can people go to follow you on social and look at what you're up to on with the columns, et cetera. Yeah, firstly, thank you so much. I really had fun. You can go to Instagram at Jacqueline. For NYC, that's j A c q u E l I n E f O r N YC. Same thing for my website. On Twitter, I'm at j A c q u E t N Y I wrote it down. What did I write down? I think it's ny something like that on Twitter. And you can follow me on Human Events, the Manhattan

Dot Press and that's right. And when your book comes out, come and come and talk about the book on the show. So we're for you on that one. That's great. Save New York City. Let me know how that goes, all right, Jackie, Thank you so much. Great to have you