Immigration System in Failure

The border is a catastrophe. It is getting worse. Democrats are telling us what they really think, at least some of them are, which is that they want open borders. What can we do about it? And Stacy Abrams making some unfounded and deeply divisive and inflammatory claims. We'll talk about what she's got going on coming up on The buck Sexton Show. Buck Sexton Remission, decoding the news and disseminating information with actionable intelligence, No mistake, American, You're a

great American again. This is the bucks Sexton Show. Former CIA analysts, I can speak for three hours without a phone poll. Try doing that sometimes it is buck Sexton. No, it's something The President is certainly still keeping that option on the table. And as he said, as a number of us have talked about over the last several days, this is certainly not the president's first choice. But Democrats at this point, their unwillingness to do anything has left

the president with very little option. Thousands of people that are illegally pouring into this country that are really putting national security at risk, and it's irresponsible the way that that has been ignored by Democrats in Congress, and this president is not going to allow that to continue. If he has to close the border, he will, but that's certainly not his top choice. Welcome to the buck Section show, everybody, Sarah Huckaby Sanders there part of the slow down and

the threat to shut down the border. I have been very clear on this with you. I've brought on experts, I've been talking offline to them as much as I can. And the shutdown border, I've been saying, it's not gonna get this situation fixed even if you did shut down the border. And I know there's this we have a sense of raging against the helplessness of knowing there's a crisis, knowing there's a catastrophe, and not being able to do

anything about it. And even our elected officials in our own government seems unable or unwilling to do anything about it. So when Trump says, well, I'll shut down the border entirely, I can understand that initial reaction of okay, good, he's doing something. Take action better than suffering in silence. But now it seems that they have walked that back, and it's because of exactly what I said to you, which is that this is not going to be an effective

tactic for handling this. This is not going to get the president what he wants. It's folk, but it has It's not a total loss. It focuses the national conversation on the issue. It shows the seriousness with which he's approaching it, and it shows that he is willing to try anything and everything to get this under control. And his political opponents, meanwhile, the Democrats, are on the complete opposite side of this. They do not want to fix

this problem. This problem benefits them. They do not want the President to be successful in ending this massive migrant flow. They prefer the migrant flow to continue. Now, the presidents saying, the White House is saying with him that they're going to give Mexico a one year warning. And he also has said that instead of closing the border, he might just put a tariff on car So you could also say that this isn't a walk back so much. Is

it's a negotiation? All right, Well, if you're not gonna if the government and if the Democrats won't support a closing on the border, what about putting a tariff on cars? What about a tariff on cars that cross our southern border and then use that money specifically to fund additional border patrol and border patrol facilities. Now, I think that's a pretty good idea, except remember the overflow issue and

the processing issue is one component of this. But we don't just want to process people more efficiently who are going to abuse the asylum to get into the country. No, no, no, we want to stop them from getting into the country and stop coming and lying about the credible fear that they have so that they can be in the country. We're not just trying to make this a smoother transition

for illegal aliens coming into the country. We're trying to stop illegal aliens from coming into the country's And that's where we have this break with the Democrats on this. And we'll talk more about immigration the second hour. But I just didn't I wanted to note that the initial my initial sense of this, the White House now shares, and so they're on the same page that I was on a few days ago, which is shutting down the border. It's not going to do It doesn't handle the problem.

You could shut down the border, you still have people that cross illegally, you still have to arrest, attain them, and then process them. So even if they're remember they're not going through legal ports of entry to begin with. So I mean to shut down the border doesn't do anything for them, doesn't do anything to them. All it does is maybe give you leverage with the government of

Mexico and the Central American governments involved here. But they're just going to say their hands are tied and you know they can't do anything, and that's exactly what they're doing. But I want to just switch for a moment here too. The most bizarre obsession that liberals have other than Trump's tax I mean, other than Trump's Russia collusion that didn't happen, and that is a fantasy, and that is Trump's taxes.

We have never seen I see people that are apparently reasonable, well adjusted human beings who when you bring up Trump's taxes, they all of a sudden think that this is the most important thing that we could ever, we could ever see or find out about. You have Pelosi today saying that they're the Congress is going to demand these they want Trump's taxes, and then they're going to leak it.

And you know, one problem I have in this whole get Trump effort is that the federal bureaucracy is not very interested in finding leakers of sensitive and sometimes classified information that hurts the president. Where are those prosecutions? Not that hard? Not that hard to find out who leak General Flynn's phone called the Washington Post? You know, not that hard to figure out these things if you want to.

I think we all know that the people that are generally in those positions, the career bureaucrats, tend to be Democrats. And even if you have a room full of three or four Republicans at the bureau or the DOJ, guess what, one Democrat in that room will shut the whole thing down, because they're true believers. Back to Pelosi for a moment here. Her desire is for Trump's taxes. That's what needs to happen. We're gonna get Trump's taxes, and then all will be

right with the world. Play five, No, Well, the law exist. The law is very clear, the law says, and I'll read it too. The law says of that upon written requests from the Chairman of the Committee on Ways and Means or the Chairman of the Finance or the Chairman Joint Committee on Taxation, that would be either one of

those other two. But anyway, the Secretary of shall furnish shall mountain They should could shell or furnish such committee with any return or return information specified in such request. Isn't it interesting how Democrats when they want to are all of a sudden legal literalists. The law is the law. Every word of the law is to be followed to

the letter of the law. What about immigration, folks, What about all that stuff about how if you're in the country illegally you are to be deported to your country of origin. Where is that? I could read that statute out. It's pretty clear, pretty cut and dry. No. A Pelosi doesn't like that one though. And once you start going with oh, this is what the law says about the IRS, you get down that rabbit hole. Even the IRS doesn't know what the IRS code really says in some respects,

so I gotta remember that. But they really really want Trump's taxes. Sarah Huckaby Sanders is giving the White House's explanation of this year's which she said play six. As the President said yesterday, while his taxes continue to be under audit, he doesn't anticipate that changing at any point anytime soon, and therefore doesn't have any intention to release those returns. But let's not forget grand that the president

filled out hundreds of pages in a financial disclosure. You can see a broad range of the president's business investments, all of the different financial interests through that extensive and very exhaustive financial disclosure form that you have to fill out in order to work in the government, in order

to run for president, and he's done that. It gives you a very good picture of just how successful he was as a businessman, and I think it should answer all of the questions that anybody might have about his financial dealings. I have a question, what the heck do democrats think they're really gonna find? What do they think

is going to show up in these tax returns? You know, I remember when Barack Obama's transcripts were an issue, and hearing from all these Democrats how school records are sacred. You could never there's privacy involved, you know, you know what that was all about. And I was very consistent on this. It wasn't Barack Obama. I do not believe that he was a foreign student or any of this stuff that people have said. I don't know, but you would have can you went to Occidental College and what

the eighties and no offense. Anybody went to Occidental. But it's not an elite institution. And I'm not trying to sound like some person who cares about that stuff, because some of you get mad at me if I do. But I'm just it's not an elite institution. Then all of a sudden he goes to Columbia and then he's the head of Harvard Law Review. It happens real fast.

And the reason that they didn't want to release Barack Obama's transcript from Columbius he was probably a you know, B minus C plus kind of student, you know, really mediocre, middle of the pack kind of student. That's it. And you could say, well, Buck, why would they care so

much about that? Oh, because the mythology around Obama was that he was there, and there were people that were saying this that he was the most brilliant president in the history of the United States, that there's nobody else. And you could make an argument to me, and I would actually be more than willing to hear it, about how grades are not really a reflection of one's intellectual ability. There's a lot of other stuff that goes into it, work ethic, do you care or do you you know?

You know what school are you in, what curriculum are you doing. That's all true. There's a lot of subjectivity in it. But just the the the notion that Obama wasn't the super genius to save all humanity, as reflected in his college records, would have been too much for Democrats to bear. So Obama, unlike other presidents, never and people challenge me on this and say, no, no, no, never released his college transcripts, never kept those secret. Oh

and those never leaked. Huh, Yeah, nobody could sneak into that uper top secret Columbia University, you know, computer system and find those. But you've already had some of Trump's tax returns, which is illegal, leak some of it, and you know, the moment that the Congress gets their hands on the full Trump tax return, you know that it will leak. Of course, it will leak. That's why they want it so very badly. But what do they think

is in here? This is my guess, And I think Trump doesn't want to release it just because they want it so badly now and he looks at them and just and his contempt for the media is probably my favorite thing about the man. I mean, his contempt for the mainstream media is for me, Trump's single most endearing quality. You know that, and his ability to destroy people with funny nicknames is the is the most entertaining thing about the guy. So he won't give it to them because

they're so just oh, they're so desperate for it. But he also I think recognizes that what they want to do is pull apart all of his business dealings, and they may try to if they have more information about, you know, his tax returns, they may try to go after sources of income that he has. They may because this is how democrats do things. I mean, they boycott, they destroy, they take down that. They may try to shame his any business partners that he has that they're

not aware of. They will use this as essentially state mandated because the IRS forces you to give this information. This is state mandated APPO research. Trump says he's under audit and doesn't want to release it when he's under audit, And you know, I don't I don't know, and I'm being honest with you, I don't know how credible of an explanation that really is. I think that there would be some questions about the guy's net worth and who the heck cares whether he's worth a billion dollars or

eight billion dollars. He's got a lot of money and doesn't have to worry about money. So there's this childish desire, I think, among many in the media and the Democrat Party to just find something here to make fun of Trump. You know, look at the orange man with the silly hair, who's not as rich as he says he is. That's really what this and that the press is so dug in on this. Remember, the IRS already has The federal government not only already has his tax returns, they are

auditing him. The IRS is going through and checking through his tax returns. The only reason Congress wants this is to leak it and make a political issue out of it, and leaking it is illegal, and they don't care. See Pelosi will point to the law and say the laws, the laws, the law. But then when we turn around and say, hold on a second, who leak these tax returns? They'll be like, well, you know, it's in the public interest, and I guess we'll never you know, we may never

know where that came from. It's also predictable, isn't it. Democrats in there lack of principles. At least there's a consistency there. And because Democrats are consistent in their lack of principle, they're also very predictable, which is one of the fun things that I get to do on the show is tell you what they're going to do next. And those you who listen to the show enough, no, I tend to be right because I know the other side.

We will get deeper into immigration coming up here. And also some of what Stacy Abrams, who is a possible possible Senate and then maybe even a presidential candidate. She says she might not declare it till very very late, but what she's saying, if you want to talk about undermining democracy and undermining institutions, Stacy Abrams is really in a class by herself right now. Just won't concede the election that she lost just won't do it. That strikes

me as troubling. We'll get into that and maybe a little creepy Joe Biden time, stay with me. Babbler is completely distorting our government. This is not an enforcement agency. A congressional committee don't get to look at my tax return or UI TA. The IRS is gonna have to resist it because it'd be totally illegal. There's no basis for it, and they're not the Irs. They don't investigate tax fraud or tax irregularities or tax mistakes. Everybody got

all upset with Nixon did this. This is horrendous. If Congress, if these politicians in Congress can get their hands on people's tax returns, you know they Democrats and they we have to Republicans tax returns. What if we become It has to be resisted. The president has to resist this for the good of all of us, because otherwise they get immediate person who's too far right, they'll go after

their tax returns. Yep, Rudy's solely right here. If they can get Trump's tax returns, they can get any of your tax returns, and they will one by one, high profile target by high profile target on the right they will take people down. He might say, buck, but I

pay all my taxes. I'm yeah. But they'll they'll look at every deduction you've taken and they'll they'll question why you don't do more teritable or did you do all the charitable giving you said you did, or you know, there's a lot of sensitive stuff that goes into people. They'll see your liabilities, you know, They'll see what you owe, They'll see it. They'll see all kinds of things, see

your losses in the stock market. They'll see your I don't know if gambling losses, going your tax return, but they're gonna know a lot about you. It should surprise nobody that when Democrats get the opportunity to use the most intrusive instrument of the federal government short of the f behind the dj which they've done for two years against Trump, now they're going to number two on the list,

which is the irs. Weaponizing government bureaucracy. This is what democrats do, weaponizing the state for the purposes of status to control. That's what's happening here. Just like under the Obama administration, tea party groups all of a sudden or get all this scrutiny and getting blocked and singled out. When was the last time you heard of a scandal where a left wing or liberals were being targeted by the Highrs unjustly. I can't think of one. So this

is what they do. They force you, under threat of imprisonment to give the government information and then Nancy Pelosi decides that you need more information from the IRS. We're just gonna take it. We're just gonna get it. It's appalling. We got more coming up, teams, stay with me. Democrats continue to show day in and day out that they're nothing but sore losers. At some point they have to realize that they have been beat by President Trump in

the twenty sixteen election. They're getting beat by him day in and day out on issues that actually matter, and I think they're a sad excuse for a political party right now. And at some point they have to decide that they want to actually govern and they actually want to change things and make America better and join the President in those efforts. I feel like Sarah Huckabee Sanders has gotten even more fierce, and I mean that in

the best way. Yeah, she's really kind of lean into this now, and she's just like bring it with the press all the time, and I like that she just says it the way it is. She's like, look, they're just sore losers. They are. They're just a bunch of sore losers. And so many of the Democrat media really invest themselves in the political process in a way where they're desperate to have their beliefs reflected back to them from the power structure. Because they're not intellectually secure enough

to know whether what they believe is true. They just feel that it's really true, and they need to have somebody in the White House who's telling them, yeah, that's right, you're right. Everything you think is good. And that's why they can't really deal with this. But you know, this is all in response to the the Mulla Report, even more damaging than or just more damaging than what we've been told so far. How is that going Let's just let's unpack this for a moment. How is that going

to work, folks? No charges against the president, no additional indictments after two year long investigation. That is where it is. That that is the determination, the final dispensation. It's going to be worse. It's even worse than people thought. It's even how how could that, you know, never mind should how could that even theoretically be the case? Oh, I think I told you yesterday. They're going to do two things, and Mike, we should we should mark this down for

when it happens. All right, this will be one of these things where I say, we're going to play back their prediction. They're going to be two lines of attack. When the report drops, they're going to say that whatever's redacted, that's where the juicy stuff is, that's where the collusion happened,

the black lines that we can't read. And then the other part of it will be they'll find something in the report that, while not criminal, they'll say is essentially tant amount too and they're gonna use very tortured language to do it. Tant amount to a high crime and misdemeanor, and therefore the president should be impeached. I'm I'm not on this. I do not believe that they've given up

on impeachment for the president. I keep saying this. Then again, I'm also not entirely convinced that Hillary Clinton's not going to run, which I know is hellow, but I know it's sounds crazy, But you know, she's she just it's an outlier prediction. I mean, I'm betting. If I'm betting on Hillary to run, it's like I'm betting on the horse that you know looks like it could be. You know, it's it's not gonna not even gonna place or show or how does that, Mike, I haven't been in the

track in a long time. It's not even coming the top three, right, I'm taking a long shot bet, but I think it's a bet I might take big Hillary. With this this crop of Democrat candidates, that there's no front runner, there's no one who really stands out as the one that you know is electable, or any of that. You know, they might just say, especially if they go with the impeachment route, because then Hillary becomes part of the narrative where they will undo the unjust result of

the twenty sixteen election. The only way to restore justice if you believe that Trump stole that election, is to em place Queen Hillary on the throne. Yes, Queen Hillary, that's what they're gonna say. Mueller's team is Mueller's work rather is not yet done, in the sense that Democrats are hoping to squeeze more out of it. It's the only thing I'll not that also keeps some of them

from criticizing him even more harshly. It is obvious is that Muller was very aggressive with all the people around Trump, was very aggressively trying to get Trump. But it wasn't enough for the Democrats because they're crazy. Giuliani, Rudy Giuliani, who I've been fortunate enough to sit down with a few times in the last couple of months to talk

to him about this whole case. Here's what he says about this whole the situation right now of the Mueller Report and the team and where it's all going Play nine. It makes the point that we've been making for two years. Despite all of the media reports about how holy and sanctimonious the Muller team is, there are a bunch of sneaking, unethical leakers, and they are rapid Democrats who hate the

President of the United States. And I can't tell you how much false information they leaked during the course of the investigation, how many people were going to be indicted that didn't get indicted, how many blockbusters were there, starting with Papadopoulos and ending with Cohen, who turns out to be a serial liar. How could you have any confidence

in this? This is why a full accounting of what the Muller team did, not just the full report, but the full accounting of how they got the investigation going and started that needs to happen. Komy, you can sense that sanctimonious giraffe Comy is a little bit on edge.

I do think that he has some recognition of the fact that if they go back and look at what really happened in the FBI under his watch and the politicized decisions that were made and how all that went down, that things could think could not be so great for

the gymster. I think that he might find himself in in some rough seas very quickly, Which is why we should look into this, which is why we should absolutely do everything that we can to hold them to account, to find some way to get us closer to real justice, which would be in end to all these witch hunt tactics and some final accounting of what really happened here and how the investigation got going and who was behind

it and what they were really trying to do. We deserve that after two years of being dragged through all this. So yeah, I want them all report to come out. It's going to come out. You know, it's not going to be some bombshell. There'll probably be something. Like I said, they will be focused on the redactions, and we'll be focused on something that they say means the president's a bad guy, even if it's not criminal. That's where this is all heading. Mark my words. Team, we're back in

just a moment. You can't shame me into pretending that what happened should have happened. Because in the state of Georgia, black people faced hour long lines up to four hours waiting to cast their ballots. Fifty three thousand people were held hostage by a system that a federal judge was racially discriminatory. Fifty three thousand people, ninety percent of whom were people of color, seventy percent of whom were black.

I live in a state where one and a half million people got purged, including six hundred thousand right before my opponent threw his name into the ring. They rejected absentee ballast at an unheard of rate. And so, in response to what I believe was a stolen election, and I'm not saying they stole it from me, they stole it from the voters of Georgia. I cannot prove empirically that I would have won, but we'll never know, because, you see, voter suppression is as old as a merit.

She's playing with fire here, folks. That's Stacy Abrams at the National Action Network conference. National Action Network, of course, the organization run by Al Sharpton aka the Reverend Al Sharpton, a man who's of integrity and odious record. I'm sure you don't need me to go into much detail about We've got Stacey Abrams here straight up saying that the election in Georgia was the gubernatorial election was stolen from her,

stolen from her. She will not concede that Republican Brian Kemp defeated her, even at this stage of the game. The election was back in November. It's April, and even though she claims that there were, you know, fifty four thousand votes that should have encountered or weren't counted, she lost by more than that fifty four thousand votes, So you know, she would have lost no matter. There's there's no scenario mathematically in which she doesn't lose, based on

what the rules are and everything that we see. But this is what democrats do. You know. I'm sorry, but it's another instance of how they don't have principles. They just have feeling and a desire for power. Because we heard this, all this stuff about right before the presidential election in twenty sixteen, how Trump wasn't going to accept the results and Hillary never accepted the results. And now here we and we were told that was undermining our democracy,

and people are just repeating this mindlessly. Oh, they're undermining democracy. There, undermining democracy. What does that even mean? Now they're doing that, Are they undermining democracy? Oh? No, of course not when they say an election was stolen. What they're doing is bolstering democracy. They're making it stronger, They're making it more robust.

Stacy Abrams thinks that she's going to run for president, that's what people are saying, and she or she may run for a Senate seat again in Georgia, people now can be entirely constructs of the media and win higher office. We know this. That is part of the power of the media still has. Stacy Abrams has yet to win elected office, and yet she has given the imprimater of the mainstream media in such a way that she's considered a serious candidate for any office, including the presidency, even

without ever showing the ability to win anything. And this is very divisive rhetoric. She's using about this gubernatorial election, very clearly saying that it was racist, it was racist, and intent racist and outcome. Better be prepared for more of this, you better expect going into twenty twenty. You know, they've been a little quiet. The left is backed off.

The Trump is a you know, basically a grand Wizard of the KKK, and the you know, the White House is operated by neo Nazis now and I mean they've they've they haven't reputated it, to be sure, and I'm and I'm not even saying that they don't still here and there bring it up, but that's going to be

very main point of attack. You're gonna hear a lot of that from the Democrats, that Trump is an evil, terrible racist, a bad, bad man, because that's just one of the things that they know will make some people cheapish to vote for Trump, because you know, no one wants to vote for a racist. The fact that Trump is not a racist, and I think any fair minded

person could be convinced of that. On the facts does not change that there will be this perception, this social perception, that to vote for Trump is to cast a vote for a racially divisive and therefore unacceptable figure. And so the swing voters in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Florida, that's what the Democrats are targeting here. That's really the whole game. It's it's amazing that the whole election comes down to that,

But that's what will happen, almost almost assuredly. But Stacy Abrams is getting such a pass on all of this. You know, For just one point that I wanted to make here before we move on to something else, she says, black people faced hour long lines, up to four hours waiting to cast their ballots. Also, a lot of not black people were waiting in those same lines. The line there was no segregated line voting or anything like that. There are people of all different ethnicities and backgrounds voting.

I actually spoke today. I interviewed a congressman on Rising who represents a majority minority district and he's a Republican. But there are lots of folks that were in those lines. And long election lines are not some unique thing for Georgia and those districts I would note where you had a higher percentage of African Americans waiting in those lines. Those elections are run by at the county level. Democrats are the ones that are in charge of that. Democrats

are the ones that are setting up those elections. So who's doing the suppression there? I mean, what this? This is just demagoguery that she's offering them. This is pure and utter demagoguery, and no one calls her out on it. It's just like with Alexandriocazio Cortes. She's allowed to say whatever nonsense pops into her mind and they will find some way to clean it up and make it seem like it's not so bad, or or they'll just ignore

it altogether. They will not challenge these people. They will not challenge the favorite Democrats on the left, whether it's Betto, Robert o'rouric, Robert Francis, o'cazio, Cortes, Stacy Abrams. They don't get asked the hard questions. And you know, I know we're going to talk about Biden later on in the show. I know because I determine what we do on the show. But what's happened to Biden is he's just getting put out to pasture by the radical left that's taken over

his party. That's why it's there's so much traction behind this, you know, sniffing, touching, feely feely stuff, other than the fact that it is creepy. But this is coming from within his own party. This is from the left because the the most whacko progressives have really overtaken the Democrat Party. And that's yet another another symptom of it. The Biden situation right now is indicative of the power that the woke social justice left has in the Democrat Party apparatus overall.

And it's also why someone like Howard Schultz, former CEO of Starbucks. Oh, I know, he's doing a town hall tonight at Fox News, and good for him for being willing to sit down with you know, I again, I've I've never seen Martha mccallumber Brett Bear ask an unfair question. I've seen all the other you know, the CNN, MSNBC anchors, They've all asked unfair questions. I've never seen Martha or Brett ask a question that I thought was out of bounds or I'm not saying it hasn't happened. I just

have never seen it. But I do think that's indicative of how fair minded they are with the questions they ask. But Schultz just realizes that, you know, you can't have a twenty nine year old former bartender with a not even a tenuous grasp of economics, a non existent grasp of economics in o'casio Quartez. You can't have her reorganizing a few trillion dollars of the economy. You just can't do it. This is a terrible idea. And say what you will about Schultz's politics, I'm sure he's a nut

job on climate change and all kinds of stuff. He does understand how to read a profit and loss statement. He does know how to read a balance sheet, which really separates him from a lot of the progressive left these days. You just think that it's all just a question. If you will it, it will be the way you want it. It's not the way the world works. It's not the way it's going to work either, no matter

who's in power. But so this we'll see what ends up happening here with Stacy Abrams, I'll talk to you more about Joe Biden later on in the show. Well, we'll save creepy Joe today for for hour three. I don't think we have to dive too deep into that one right now. It's he's got his video out. If he could say that nothing has happened, I'm sure he would, but it's really hard and there's video and there's photos. You're not really it's not alleged at that point, is it.

I mean that's why al frank look al frankin's all. The only reason he was toast was because there was photo of him groping somebody. If it was just an allegation, they would have let him stay. There's photos of Biden being a creepy, gropy weirdo. We got more coming up. There's absolutely a crisis on the border, without a doubt. There's a national security crisis, there's a humanitarian crisis, and

there's what we like to call policy crisis. You can ask any expert from anyone that has vidicated their life to board security security of this country. They will tell you that we're almost beyond crisis. We are immigration system

is near failure, near failure. It's interesting that you had there the acting Chief of Border Patrol in the Laredo sectors say that because the first line of my piece last week on the Hill dot com reporting on the border was the immigration system is at the border is failing. This is failure. This is not a system that is just having some has some kinks that need to be worked out. This is heading toward catastrophe. In fact, the acting ICE director described as the ICE director is describing

it as a meltdown. I know you can make some jokes with that, but it's a very serious issue. Play thirteen. It's a It's an absolute crisis down there. It has humanitarian aspects, it has border security aspects. This policy can't continue. He talked about the overcrowding, the systems in a meltdown. It's just getting worse day by day. CPP reported yesterday they have over twelve thousand people in custody. We're maxed out in ICE capacity. We're looking for more detention beds

across the country. The system is over flowing. Nearly one hundred and thirty thousand families released into the interior the United States just since December of last year, So the systems in a meltdown. One hundred and thirty thousand families that means at a minimum, at a minimum, since December two hundred and sixty thousand people who are not legally entitled to be in this country and will not receive asylum, but will just stay in the country as illegals. They

are now here for good. And some of you're probably seeing buckets. It's more than that. Yeah, some of them are showing up because I saw it three four kids with them. You're having adult males with three or four children. They show up with adult females three or four children. So, you know, a rough a rough estimate, it's probably two point five would be a fair guest for how many numerically speaking or coming across. I know, there's not such a thing as you know, half a person, but you know,

you probably have a little over two on average. So you know, let's call it three hundred thousand, three hundred thousand people led into the country, maybe three fifty. That's a lot, folks, that's a lot. And then that's being added to the pool of twenty million they're already in the country illegally. You know, when when is it? You know, I like to step back and ask, when can we all agree that it's it's actually too much. When is it apparent that this is no longer a sustainable and

acceptable way forward. You know, at what point in this whole process are we allowed to look at the Democrats and say, okay, do you guys at least are you are you with us now? Do you agree now that this is too much? Do you agree that we really have reached this point? And I don't think that they have an answer how much is too much? There's no such thing. They don't think there is such a thing.

I also want to know, you know, as I'm someone who's currently dealing with the very labyrinthine visa process of going to a foreign country and just filling paperwork with more paperwork, with more paperwork, I want to know the people that are stuck in the legal immigration process right now.

I wonder how they feel about this. I wonder how those who have been playing the rule, playing by the rules, and trying to come into this country the right way and spend a lot of time and a lot of money they could just I wonder if they would take the deal of well, I'll just show up at the border, I'll be processed. Gotta have a kid with you, but I'll get processed within forty eight hours and I'll be letting the American interior and no one. I'll never have

to worry about this again. If I ever run into a problem, I just tell Immigration, I'm waiting for my court date. I'm waiting for my court date. After four or five years, are waiting for your court date? You know what, It's not going to be a court date. There's going to be amnesty. That's where this is all heading right now. We are not heading for a secure border. We are heading for amnesty. And some on the left are being honest about this. When leftists tell you who

they are, you should listen. And you're hearing voices now who are coming forward because they think the political winds have shifted in their favor. You're hearing voices who are coming forward specifically to advocate for decriminalization of illegal immigration, which is just a fancy way of saying open borders. Here is Julian Castro of the Castro Brothers play eleven. Instead of building a wall or closing the border, we

should choose compassion instead of cruelty. The feeling from this administration is that we are in a full blown crisis and that they are overwhelmed by it. Do you think that I don't believe their narrative. I don't believe the BS. We should decriminalize people who are coming here crossing the border. We need to increase the number of refugees that we

take into this country. And if we're not careful, if we don't get this right, in twenty or thirty years, this nation is going to be begging for immigrants to come to this country. We're taking in a million immigrants a year right now legally. If we don't get this right, I mean, everything this guy says is wrong. Everything this

guy says is a lie. A million a year legally. Folks, you know, there is an argument to be made that that's actually a lot from an assimilation perspective, And people say, PACA, You can't say that. Why Why is endless immigration considered a good thing? What other country is doing this? Point to me, you show me a prosperous, socially and politically cohesive nation state that has an open borders policy or a near open borders policy, and you know, show me

that and then I'll change my mind about this. It does not exist. We're the only country in the world that is expected to just take in population of immigrant after population of immigrant illegal, legal, I mean, just just masses and masses of immigrants into the system and not chosen,

by the way for skills, for abilities. Some of them are, I know, but overwhelmingly it's illegals and family reunification, which is just chain migration, same thing, right, you know, one person gets here and then that's I'm gonna sponsor the next ten members of my family to come here. So really, when you let one person in some cases you're letting five, six,

seven people in. That's what ends up happening. And this idea that we have to take more asylum seekers or rather more refugees, well, we've already taken a few hundred thousand of them, and how many are we supposed to take? And they're not refugees. They're not refugees. There's just the lies that people trot out there so shamelessly. I mean, this is somebody who you know, Castro is one of the brothers I think is running for president. I think

it's this one Julian. But you know that they're making this case in this way. I mean, this is where the Democrats are, This is where the media is. The media just loves. They take every opportunity to preen for the cameras on the issue of illegal engration. Oh, I just we just you know, we need more people to do menial labor for us or else what will we ever? Do you know, who's going to make sure the country

club still looks nice. These are the people that are going on MSNBC and acting like there's no problem here. And you just add this into the list too, of what they've lied to you about what they have not been willing to tell the American people. The truth about the truth is that we have a crisis on our southern border. That is the truth. It has been the

truth for months. It has been obvious four months. And yet what's the response you get from Democrats to pretend that they can just either ignore it or that now that it's too late for them to take action, they want to just swoop in and say, you know what, let's not fix it. Let's just turn this whole let's just flip the whole table over. Let's forget about enforcing immigration law. Let let's forget about the rule of law

at our southern border. Period. Just this story. We're going to stay on it because it's not going anywhere except well, as I've been telling you, it's going to get worse. It is going to get worse. You're gonna have a million. You're gonna have a million of legals in the country this year during the Trump presidency. I don't I wonder what the political ramifications of this will be. I don't know if this will be held against Trump by his base, or if there'll be a sense that, my gosh, this

is even worse than we realized. And Trump has been right all along because on the border issue he has been right. I mean, his instincts are correct, his policy choices on this have been the right ones. But the judiciaries against them, the media is against them, the Democrats are playing defense for illegals all the time. He doesn't have enough power to go it alone. So I don't know how this gets fixed, and I really firmly believe it doesn't get fixed. If the drugs don't stop, Mexico

can stop them if they want. We're going to tear off the cars. The cars are very big, and if that doesn't work, we're going to close the border. But I think that'll work. That's massive numbers of dollars. So if we don't see people apprehended and brought back to their countries if we see these massive caravans coming up. For the last three days, it hasn't happened since I said, we're closing the border. The only thing frankly better but less drastic than closing the borders to tear off the

cars coming in. And I will do it, just like you know I will do it. I don't play games. We're going to give them a one year warning, and if the drugs don't stop or largely stop, we're gonna put tariffs on Mexico and products, in particular cars. The whole ball game is cars. I don't know this is gonna work. I wish I could tell you otherwise I don't.

I don't see how this is going to work. The Mexican government, maybe we'll be willing to divert caravans and do some assistance to prevent migrant flows, but they're not gonna They couldn't stop all the migrants. Remember, they're being suck snuck into the country, or snuck at least to the border by the cartels to begin with. They couldn't and I think wouldn't try to stop all of that I don't believe that they will try to stop all of that. And when he says that the drugs have

got to stop, I mean you know that. I mean, the cartels could care less about any of this. In fact, even if you were to shut down the border for a few days, which I believe is what happened after the murder of DA agent Kiki Camarena, which was memorialized in the show Narcos season four, I believe that the border was close to or more or less shut down

for a few days. All that does is drive the street price off as soon as the spigots are back on and the drugs are flowing, because people still want their drugs, so you're not going to starve the cartels, I mean the cartels. One of the problems back in the old days with Pablo Escobar that's been written about

is they had this issue of spoilage. The cartels had to deal with the spoilage issue, not of their product, the product they could always move very quickly, of their cash, and that they were losing millions of dollars because of rats eating these stacks of hundred dollars bills that they were just burying underground for the Median cartel. The rats were eating the cash. So I do not think that

you're going to starve the cartels anytime soon. Shutting down the border, they'll just mean that they'll find other ways. I mean, they get in illegally anyway. It'll be harder for the for sure, and that they'll they'll suffer a little bit. But I don't think that will stop. You know, the other part of me, they'll feels like, well, at least Trump is using the leverage that he has and is getting serious about this, and it has decided that this is not going to be an issue that he

allows to just linger on as is. You know, you want to get Mexico's attention, stop on tax remittances from getting sent back into Mexico. You want to get the attention of illegals in this country, stop on tax remittances from getting sent back to people in the home country. You know, we should not be subsidizing other countries economies, and that is what we are doing. And people who say, oh buck, they you know, the illegals do the jobs Americans want to do. There's been so much brainwashing, so

much propaganda on this issue. What do they think, I mean, I just wonder, you know, for many of the illegals who are here, who are doing uh, you know, what would be menial labor, unskilled labor, whatever the preferred terminology is, what happens when those people get into their late sixties, early seventies, early eighties, there are millions of them. What happens then? Do they get Medicare? Do we add them to the Medicare roles? Do they do so we pay

for all their their healthcare? Is that what's supposed to happen? Um? What's their retirement? Do they get Social Security? Some of them will have been living here for thirty maybe forty years at that point, So do they just get Social Security Medicare because they're here? Or what do we do? Do we deny them federal benefits as old people? I mean, we're we're humane. Americans want people to be okay and to be safe, but we're also don't like being taken

advantage of. Does anyone does any Democrat have a plan? Oh, they do have a plan, they just won't say it yet. Amnesty. The plan is amnesty. That's it. That's always been the plan. Everything else from the Democrats, every other effort, whether it's US a quick surge in deportations, additional funding at the border. Those are head fakes. Those are chips that they're putting on the table so that they can win the whole pot.

In the whole pot is amnesty. They just want amnesty and then and then it's all over, folks, because once you amnesty that many people think about the political incentive to try to give them the vote. Democrats are going to pass that up. No chance they will, no chance. This is going to be a test of Trump's deal making. And this is going you know, I'll say this for him. At least he's flipped over. He's flipped over the log,

so to speak, so we can see what's underneath. I mean, we now realize how corrupt and how rotten the immigration system and how much exploitation of it goes on with with illegal immigrants. We finally understand this now. I think it's taken us a long time to get there, and the national conversation has shifted dramatically. I don't want to leave out that there's the possibility of a major deal

with China. Gonna talk about China espionage in the third hour that's coming up, and this story out of marrow lago. But remember Trump has made one of his signature issues getting a major trade deal with China. That'll get them to be a more substantive and well scratch substantive, a more fair minded trade partner. That's what That's what he's trying to do. That's what he's trying to accomplish. Here's what the President says about him. It's gotta be a good deal. Got to be a good It's gotta be

a great deal. It's gotta be a great Look, we've been losing over many years, four or five six hundred billion dollars a year. We're losing a few years ago two hundred routine lead to China. We can't do that. We're gonna turn it arrests. Gotta be a great deal. If it's not a great deal, we're not doing it. But it's going very well. It's a very complex deals, very big deal. It's one of the biggest deals ever made, maybe the biggest deal ever made. It'll be a great

deal for our farmers, technology, into actual property, theft. Everything is covered. There's not a thing that's not covered. We could have made a quickie, but we're in a very good position. Our economy is way up. China's nut way up. Could either make a very good dealer, We're not going to make a deal at all. This is not an an errant or a throwaway point at all. The fundamental problem with Obama's approach to the Iran deal was it

was get a deal no matter what. Because Trump actually knows how to how to get deals and how to negotiate. He understands that if you are not willing to walk away, you are not negotiating. You are just haggling over the price. Right. You need to be able to say I'm not going to buy at any price because of X, or I'm not going to do this because of why not. Okay, I'll do it, so just you know how much do

you want from me. You don't walk into a used car lot and say I'm not leaving here without a car, sir, because then they've got you. And that's what Obama did with the irandeal. So Trump may not get this China deal done, but if he does, I mean it could be really momentous to becoming I think you'll see a big surge in well, certainly in the markets, but just also in confidence in the direction of our economy, and this could be a really big win and I hope

it's the case. And I know that US Trade Representative Robert Leitheiser and the Chinese Vice Premier are hammering this out this week. But just remember this. They said Trump was crazy for even trying this. I mean, they've been suggesting all along that Trump had no idea what he's doing. And I really do believe he's gotten closer to a major major agreement here with the Chinese than any of his predecessors could have dreamed of. This didn't start with

Jesse Smollett. This started when we wanted to try and make sure that when officers received the battery and the performance of their duties, that the felony charges would be placed. And we continually had problems getting those charges approved, and they were continuously denied, even though that's what the law requires.

The difficulty that State's Attorney foxes imposing our assistants to get us felony charges on dangerous criminals, and many times the hoops that we have to go through to try to get a felony charge, and then most of the time they're either not approved or the charges are dismissing court without an officer's opinion without notifying the police agency

or the police officer themselves. So basically, in essence, she's putting criminals back on the street, either during the process or not charging them at all, and allowing them to go back on the street and commit their crimes again. So what we have here are some police chiefs for the City of Chicago and its environs who have stepped forward to say that they have no confidence in state prosecutor our County States Attorney Kim Fox. Here's the Chicago

Sun Times with the latest. The end of the Jesse Smollett prosecution was the straw that broke the camel's back for a group of suburban police chiefs set to gather Thursday afternoon with members of the Chicago Fraternal Order of Police to announce a no confidence vote in the leadership of Cook County States Attorney Kim Fox. Dwayne Milemma, head of the North Suburban Association of Chiefs of Police representing more than thirty departments, said a no confidence vote taken

Tuesday was unanimous. In a letter sent to Fox, Malemma, who is police chief in Park Ridge, expressed concern over Prosecutor's refusal to file felony chargers in certain crimes. Quote. The abrupt dropping on the sixteen indictments against Empire actor Jesse Smillett during an unannounced court hearing is the latest and most egregious example of the failure by you and

your staff to whole defenders accountable. This is quite a public mutiny against this prosecutor, because you have to keep in mind that police and prosecutors you are working very closely together. The department and the distric Attorney's office are generally very collegial, and they don't unnecessarily air out this kind of dirty laundry. But what Kim Fox did, and we all know it's because of connections and person her personal feelings about Smallad and her personal feelings about it.

What Kim Fox did was egregious. To borrow a word from the fraternal Chicago Fraternal Order of Police. It was just too much. It's too far that the law was

not going to apply to Jesse Smollett. And then that little punk would turn around and suggest that he was still innocent, that he has no compunction whatsoever about perpetuating this lie, that there's nothing in him that has that the dignity and the respect and the self worth to take responsibility for what he did and view what had happened in terms of the charges getting dismissed for reasons of pure bias. I mean, this is just pure bias.

But instead of thanking his lucky stars and saying, wow, I'm this is amazing and I'm so sorry and never have it again, he went out and started lecturing us. He went out and thought that this was a time to say that those who were you know, didn't believe him should have And then he's been honest all along. I mean, this guy's sick. He's really got a problem, and that there would be any people in the Democrat power structure that would step member. They're not standing behind

him to say, all right, be lenient on him. They want him to get off scott free. They want him to suffer no consequence, zero non sequences whatsoever as a result of this, at least no legal consequences. And that was just too much for these cops. And I'm sure that if you were to look into some of the other decisions that are being made here by Kim Fox based on what these officers are saying, there's you know, she's dropping felonies against people that shouldn't shouldn't have the

felonies dropped, you know. But this is this is where you start to get into a social justice element and a social justice application of the law. This is where you start to hear about how the criminal laws are inherently racist or are enforced in racist ways, and therefore there needs to be a rebalancing that occurs in the prosecutor's offices, and you go down a very dangerous path here.

You know, there are some things that we should we do as a society, and we should as people all agree on and laws that prevent murder, assault, rape, theft. These are foundational agreements in a civilization, in a society. These are things that no matter who you are, where you are in a society, you should want the state which claims for itself a monopoly on violence, a monopoly on force that is a defining characteristic of a state, that they will protect us and on these courts. We're

not talking about campaign finance here. We're not talking about you know, tax return issues, uh Trump's tax returns. We're talking about those clear cut law enforcement issues, real felonies for real criminals. You're not going to enforce those because there's a disparate impact on one ethnic group or several ethnic groups in society, you're going to start to scale back the prosecutions you're doing. This has happened in places. This is what's going on. This is what happened in

Broward County. We are where you have the Marjorie Stoneman

Douglas shooting. The decision was made that these school discipline policies that would result in criminal referrals to police because people would bring knives or they would have punched somebody or they that was having a two negative an impact on minority students, particularly black and Hispanic students, and so they wanted to eliminate criminal penalties as a means of achieving greater You guessed its social justice and uh, you know, Democrats, this is where we have. This is where there's a

real once again, you know that I mentioned abortion. There's someplace we have a real separation. And you know, I don't care what skin color somebody is, I don't care what religious background, what economic situation they're in. All of us, all of us must be held to account for felony

violations of the law. I mean real felonies, felonies where there's a victim, where someone's been hurt, where damage has been done, not mallem prohibitum, which is just when the state says it's bad, but mallem in say legal terms for bad because you know it's bad. Kim Fox, I can tell you this is letting people offer things that are mallem insay that are bad and you know it's bad.

But I'm sure it's a lot of drug stuff, but people that always you know, I disagree with the notion that people shouldn't be held to account for selling illegal drugs because even though I believe in marijuana legalization, marijuana, marijuana can't kill you, can't do it, can't do it. No one's ever overdose, No one's ever died from marijuana. People die from cocaine, opioids, heroin all the time, all the time. If you're selling those drugs illegally to people,

you are putting human beings lives at risk. I've had to mention before that I'm always a little irked when I hear, particularly in the hip hop community, there are people that talk about how they used to sell crack to make, you know, ends meet, and this is almost a point of pride and say, well, when they were selling crack, did they ever ask that people they were selling crack too? If you know, they ask women that bought crack for them, is are you sure you're not pregnant?

By the way, do they ask women who bought crack? You know, are you selling your body or doing other really desperate things to get the money for this crack? Selling these kinds of addictive drugs is not something that should just go unpunished because a lot of people make

that decision. I'm sorry. And for Kim Fox to have the Fraternal Order of Police turn on her like this, I'm I'm sure the more you dig into this, you just find out that, you know, she's been giving people a pass because she's a She's a leftist and a social justice true believer. One more point on this. A reporter today, I watched the press conference that they gave, that the police chiefs gave, and a reporter said, why

aren't there any black police chiefs on the stage. I heard that question asked, and I don't an I don't have an answer. And I heard the answer they gave, which is that the police chief said everybody was invited. Some people showed up, some people didn't. I really hope that in the city of Chicago, because I know it's not true across the country. I know it wasn't true

in the NYPD when I worked there. But I hope that the city of Chicago now isn't being polarized along racial lines where some people think that the law shouldn't apply even when they are violations of it, just because they view it as hurting their side, hurting the side of the left, minorities, Democrats, and so you know, it's it's in a sense the OJ effect, Right, Why wasn't OJ guilty because of racism? But OJ killed two people?

So why wasn't OJ guilty because of racism? Is that what we're getting at here is Jesse Smolett not just not guilty but let off entirely because he's black and openly gay and therefore a victim and therefore special. This erodes confidence in the justice system. This erodes some of the most important things that we agree on as people in a society, which is that we're all bound by laws and we are all to be held accountable for

serious violations of law, at least held accountable. I'm not saying Smollett should have gone to prison for twenty years. The guy should have had to take a guilty plea and it should have been on the record what he did was wrong, and he should have to pay for every cent of that investigation in Chicago and probably spent a couple weeks in jail. That would have been what

I would have given him. We'll be right back. I think it's more so that like their students on this campus who don't feel comfortable with it, and so then it doesn't really matter what other students think if it makes some uncomfortable. Colonial is kind of a touchy word. Um, I did sign the petition. I do understand that it is offensive. Yeah, well, I think the word colonial like evokes an image of like white men coming to take people's land. Colonial thing is like a little white supremacist.

It's a little white supremacist. George Washington University. This is right here where I am in the swamp in DC. One of the most expensive schools in the country. By the way, George Washing University is having a bit of its own controversy because they want their students are voting to remove the colonial's nickname from their school mascot. This is where this is where there's an I think an

important takeaway. These social justice obsessed leftists can only think what they think because they have either a very limited or very narrow understanding of history. These social justice leftists are completely and utterly incapable of telling you, you know, colonial history, telling me about the colonial period, tell me about colonial societies. You know. If I were to ask them, for example, were the Aztecs of colonial people, they would say no, of course, not, oh really, because the Aztecs

enslaved millions of people. Were the Mayans in the New World of colonial people? Well, of course they were right. They colonized other territories, they took people over the is the is the entirety of the Islamic world a colonial project? Oh no, buck, that's not. Islam is a non white, predominantly non white religion, and they're not, oh really, because it was built on expansion, conquest, and conversion, often by

the sword. All of what is now the Islamic world was formerly the non Islamic world, and much of it was taken by force. So isn't that a colonial check? If they knew anything about radicalism, I think that these leftists would understand that in current jehatish propaganda, they refer to southern Spain, and I mean on the internet, in the chat rooms today among the Jihadis, they'll refer to southern Spain as Andalucia because it used to be territory of the Caliphate. So that and they have not yet

given that up. They have an irredentist tendency. They want that land back. So and who else is colonialists? I mean, when do we go back, When do we go back and say, well, they were here, They were here first, they have the land first, There are different native peoples. One of the reasons why we don't know who conquered who is because they didn't have written language, so that slows things down. They also hadn't mastered the wheel in

the New world. But nonetheless, what was I'm just talking about the civilis the technological progress, folks, It's just just a fact. So what are we to make of this? I mean, why is colonial inherently offensive? Because of that? So is the entire let's say, fifteenth century to twentieth century. Is that just an offensive period of time? I mean they don't really think through this. They're stuck in this

just deeply superficial understanding of history. This is like when I try to tell people about the white slave trade, meaning the slave trade of whites in the Mediterranean. Oh, buck, you know that's not a really it was millions of people, lasted hundreds of years in terms of geographic scope and raw numbers larger than the trans Atlantic African slave trade.

You had Muslim corsairs from the coast of North Africa all the way to Istanbul itself who would sail as far north as Ireland, as far north as Iceland and sees people from the coasts bring them to North Africa to die in the minds or the women to be used in harems as sex slaves. That went on for a couple of hundred years. They don't even know the full extent of the numbers. Oh, there are whole societies that lived in fear and terror of being too close

to the coast because of that happening. Now, I'm just I just think that's an interesting part of history. Oh, it's, by the way, why we went to our first foreign war, which you know from the recent surgeon interest in the Barbary wars in this country. We went to war with

Islamic states because they wouldn't stop enslaving us. So, you know, so we're gonna say this is it's it's offensive, Why it's offensive, how it reminds me of you know, Lord jeff the mascot from my own school, Amherst, Lord Jeffrey Amherst, someone who allegedly gave small smallpox infected blankets to the Native Americ But they didn't understand microbiology then, So I don't know how they would have known that the blankets had smallpox. I just I don't People have said it

was the first instance of biological warfare recorded. I don't know. I need to see the records. But now we're not the my college is. You know, we're not the colonials. We were the Lord Jeffs who was a colonial overlord. So this kind of hits close to home. We're the mastodons. Does that that sound like a fat cow? That did not sound like a mastodon. I gotta work on my mastadon noise. But then again, who knows if a mastodon makes a noise in the ice age and there's non around,

did it happen? Existential? What? All? Right? Our three coming up your team in just a moment, we have much more coming your way. Stay with me in my career, I've always tried to make a human connection. That's my responsibility. I think I shake cage, I hug people grabbed men in a boom by the shoulders and say you can do this, and you our social warms have begun to change, They've shifted, and the boundaries of protecting personal space have been reset. And I get it. I get it. I

hear what they're saying. I understand it, and I'll be much more mindful. That's my responsibility, my responsibility, and I'll meet it. That was the Biden Maya Culpa video that he's put out there, Biden deciding that he is not really in a position to fight these allegations. He's just in a position to say sorry. He's in a position to tell people that he's not going to do this stuff again. I've tried to be fair to this. I know we've covered it a few times here on the show.

I've tried to be fair to creepy old Joe. It's not it's not criminal. Shouldn't we talked about in that way. It's not assault, it's and I also I don't like this when people say, oh, if you try to hug somebody and they don't want to hug. You know, if it's an honest mistake, that's not assault, that's just miscommunication, right, I mean, there are there are some lines here of

good faith that we have to maintain. You know, whether you're a guy in a first date who leans in for a kiss and uh, doesn't work out your way, you know, as long as when the person leans away, you go, oh sorry, You know, you don't decide to or if you're going to hug a colleague because you think you're at the hug stage, but you're really just at the handshake stage. Ever, Come on, you probably some of you aren't huggers. Some of you probably are, but

you've probably been there, right. I'm always like, uh my, there's some people you know you can hug in the office, and there are other people you're like, is are we are we at the hug level yet? And then if you want to be very European, very French, who can do that? Is a kiss? Ons a cheek kiss? One kiss too? Oh buffet, I gotta go to Paris, man, it's been too long. It's been too long. I can't

have any quests. Song, which is just so disappointing. But Biden's obviously got an issue here because the Left is able to cover up for a lot. But when you become a point of mockery, when you are someone that is going to get made fun made fun of in a way that they can't make go away, that I think is a real drag. And that's that For example, with Elizabeth Warren, Elizabeth Warren's hold you know DNA debacle. Uh, you know that that wasn't criminal, It wasn't some some

big deal, It wasn't that she did something terrible. It just showed really really bad judgment. And when you're showing bad judgment in that way, there are people who won't be able to get past the fact that maybe they don't want you to have the nuclear codes. You know, Nancy, Nancy Pelosi is trying to have it both ways here. She's still saying, oh, well, what Biden did is not great, but it also isn't the worst thing in the world. It's well, I'll let let Nancy Pelosi speak for herself.

Play three. I don't think it's disqualifying, because I don't I think it disqualifying as with what your intention is. I do think this about communication in general. Beyond this, I'm a member of the straight arm club. I mean, I'm a straight armor. Just pretend you have a cold and I have a cold. Yeah, Nancy not exactly the warmest person issue, you know, Nancy. Nancy really likes to treat everybody like the help I think, and that's that's

her approach to life. But she's a progressive Democrats as she gets away with it. Speaking of progressive Democrats who get away with things, ooh, smooth transition, buck. Some of you may recall that I interviewed a Lissa Milano, whose finest work as an actress came when she was about thirteen years old and was in the timeless classic Commando starring Arnold Schwarzenegger. But Alyssa Milano is someone who's been

now and I've just been in movies. Most well known, I think for the show Charmed, which is about witches, which makes sense. And I sat down to interview it at her home. And she didn't realize that I was very conservative because I worked for The Hill, which is mostly staffed by liberals. And so I sit down with her and as I told you, the omen of all

omens to begin in an interview. We're in this ornate living room in this canyon north of Los Angeles, gated community, gates on gates on gates, and security guards and the whole thing. And I sit down and this decrepit little chihuahua comes kind of limping over and urinates. This is right. I mean, the cameras were all set up in row urinates, you know, about two feet from my foot, just decides to just lift it's a little tiny wrinkly leg and

just let it rip right there. And that was pretty much all you need to know about how that interview was going to go. You know, I just sat there because over the court she's looking at I could tell she goes, oh wait, he's he's not really, he's not a journal journalist. He's a he's a person who thinks and asked questions for himself. That's not I don't like this. She did not really enjoy that and complained I was entirely professional in that interview. Every question I asked her

was fair. I didn't interrupt her, and she complained after That's why I really don't mind going after a bit on the because because that's just cowardice. I mean, that's just nonsense. She tried to come. I mean, she trying to complain to my bosses, which is hilarious. They could care less. Um, and these aren't even my radio bosses, who are the ones that I really care what they think? Uh, you know, trying to complain at the hill, and you know I just said, I'm sorry. You know this is

not only am I not. I mean, I would never even apologize in a million years. But I'm like, I'm not even gonna take this seriously. This is just a baby. She's just a big baby, but not not particularly bright. By the way, if we're if we're gonna have this conversation with politics, I'm allowed to say things like that

because it's true. But she's one of these people who's trying to organize a boycott against George Georgia, the state that I was just in earlier this week, and State Rep. Dominic Larcia had a let him have a testy back and forth with her when she's you know, she's down in the state of Georgia trying to cause problems. Here's because they want to restrict abortion. Good for you, Georgia, by the way, good for you. Here's how that wentstrict of Georgia. I worked in Georgia. I don't think Georgia.

There's thirty people out find that do vote in Georgia. That I was going to don't interrupt me, that I was going to escort in that they wouldn't let me escort Georgia. No, but the people that work on my crew, the ninety thousand people that the entertainment industry actually employs, do so thank you. What's your NA district one? Nothing? I just answered. The men voting on what's going on

inside her uterus? She says, well, what they're really voting on is a heartbeat bill that would forbid abortions after a fetal heartbeat is detected, because a human being doesn't have two hearts. Human being has one heart. So if you have two hearts, you know what, you have two human beings. So this would be no abortions after six weeks.

And Alyssa Milano is obviously an abortion radical, I mean, believes an abortion for all nine months of a pregnancy, for any reason or no reason, and is trying to inflict that belief and that as a legal regime on the State of Georgia. I hope the state of Georgia is able to stand its ground and continue on the right path. Here. Yep, Lissa Milano. Not a very good actress, not a very good activist, but there you have it. She's trying to tell other people what to do in

their states, and she's running around. This is how unfortunately, people that are used to getting a lot of attention, especially as they age a little bit, and aren't quite as Let's just be honest, this is Hollywood not quite as marketable perhaps as they once were. This is a way of staying relevant, This is a way of burnishing one's brand. And I just wish people would treat this with the moral seriousness it deserves and not just use

it as a grandstanding opportunity. But we're talking about actors and actresses here, folks, So that's not going to change. This is turning into quite a story here. FEDS are investigating possible Chinese spying at Mara Lago and Cindy Yang, according to sources. This is published in the Miami Herald today. So here's what's going on. He got the FEDS looking at the possible Chinese intelligence operation targeting Donald Trump and

his private Palm Beach club mar Lago. The counterintelligence probe was quote turbocharged on Saturday when US Secret Service agents arrested a Chinese woman, yu Jing Zang, after they said she tried to enter the club with a bevy of electronic devices, including a thumb drive infected with malicious malware. The ongoing investigation has recently focused on Lee Cindy Yang.

Yang is a South Florida massage parlor entrepreneur who has promoted events at Marlago with ads targeting Chinese business executives hoping to gain access to Trump and his family. The investigation, spearheaded by the FBI, began before The Herald revealed Yang's business of selling access last month, and focused on other Chinese nationals doing business in the region. Before her arrest,

Zang was unknown to federal authorities. Now investigators with the FBI Counterintelligence Division South Florida trying to figure out who Zang is, whether she's involved in a possible Chinese intelligence mission, and whether there are links to Yank social events at Trump's Moral Lago. Huh. And this is this is very interesting. People are looking at this now and they're wondering what the real extent of this espionage, this spying. Maybe you

know alleged espionage. We don't really know, but here's here's what I can what I can tell you without any without any doubt, the amount of spying that is going on involving China and the United States is mind blowing and it's happening all the time. And the Chinese, much like during the Cold War and the era of the US duking it out with the Soviet Union, the Chinese, I think, recognize the stakes and have an understanding of

what they're trying to accomplish. And we take this view as the hedgemon the United States, the one true global superpower right now now, we don't want to cause any rifts. We don't want to rock the boat. We don't want any issues, you know, we just want to honestly get along with China if we could, I mean, if the US had its way, we would. And because we've been doing this, we've been doing this for decades, We've helped the Chinese, We've done all kinds stretching back to the eighties.

And really the Chinese growth explosion has occurred in my lifetime. It's really over the course of the last almost forty years that they went from a seventy billion to a seven trillion dollar economy, and they are now churning out products and services and in a way that is I think hard to fathom. One of the reasons why I'm so interested in going to China is to see this for myself. Buck goes to China to be like Nixon

goes to China, only cooler. But the fact is that while we were trying to deal with the Soviets, who were our most recent near peer competitor on the global stage, they were very aggressive with their espionage efforts against us. And in the early stages we did figure it out, and my forefathers at the CIA, and you know, this was really the whole This is the existence of the CIA in the intelligence community for the first fifty or so years of their existence was all about combating the Soviets.

I mean, that was the one and only real concern at the highest highest level. And all the different iterations of what fighting the Soviets meant, you know, the conflict over the Third World, the proxy war is everything from Angola to Vietnam, to Cuba to Nicaragua to you name it.

But we had, at least for the first decade or so post World War to this attitude of you know, we should try to be friends with the Soviets are intelligentsia, our journalists, a lot of people that work at the State Department, a lot of people that were up high in the government bureaucracy. They really didn't see Russia or the Soviet Union at the time as a threat. They saw it as a partner that just had to be wooed. Meanwhile, the Soviets were stealing everything from us they possibly could,

and preparing to overtake and if necessary, eradicate us. And I worry that we haven't really learned that lesson in our dealings with the Chinese, and the more I see in Chinese strategy visa the United States, the more I've got to tell you Trump is right on this issue,

and he does not get enough credit for it. Trump's approach to China, which is that we need to get into it and get tough and show some teeth on this stuff, and stop letting the Chinese stealer intellectual property, you know, rip us off on trade and grow rapidly. I mean, if tariffs were such an incredibly stupid and self defeating idea, Somebody tell me how the Chinese government with its state sponsored corporations, which is what it has

state state enterprises, state sponsored enterprises. Why they've been able to become now Fortune one hundred companies, Why they've been able to grow at a pace that blows every other country in the world really out of the water, every other major country. If it was so dumb for them, if there was no benefit from what they were doing, well, then why have they been so successful and why do they keep doing it? Trump instinctually understands. And this is

where you know he does. This is another place Trump does not get credit for because he's Look, he's a shark. He's a business shark. And I don't say that in a disparaging way. I say it in an objective and honest way. You know, he looks for opportunity, and opportunity is often getting a better deal than the other guy, which doesn't mean that you're cheating him. It just means that you are using your leverage. He understands that process.

He's been doing this for a long time. And some people say that he's been too rough in his dealings. You know, whaham boo who whatever truth is. Trump sees

what China's been doing. The United States and he understands that in this case the sharks on the other side of the table, and that our governments on both sides of the Aisle, Republican and Democrats, stretching back decades, have taken this approach to China of everything we can do to help you, and we will not punish you, We will not take real action in response to your aggression, to your theft, to all the things that everyone knows is going No one denies this is happening, which is

I think is so fascinating. I mean, no one, no one says that this is not a thing. It's just a question of how do you respond to this thing? How do you respond to what's going on here? And administration after administration is said, well, you know, China's an important trading partner and it's really a chamber of commerce

view of how to deal with the Chinese. And now we're seeing that there might be some sophisticated or semisophisticated spying operation going on involving Mara Lago, that there's I mean, I don't know how much I can or should get into what is known about the way that governments like China operate in terms of their espionage efforts abroad. I mean, some of that I think has to be kept kind of quiet so the public can't know about all of it.

But it is widespread. And I don't know what they're going to find in this Mara Lago probe, but it's not something we should just skip past and assume the authorities have a handle on this one. There is still I think, a very there's not enough of an imperative. There's not a sense of urgency. That's the word I was trying to find. There's not enough urgency in dealing with the aggressive offensive maneuvers of the Chinese government visa

of the United States. We still think that we can take this, Oh, it'll all just be okay if we're nice to them attitude, and that's not going to work. Trump is taking a different approach, but we'll see. First of all, hopefully Trump has four more years after the next two or he's got whatever six more years. But if you get a democrat in there is going to lie down for China. We may lose whatever advantage we

have now and never get it back. And I mean that, and we better wake up about the Chinese espionage effort because it is the most sophisticated, wide reaching theft of intellectual property, the most sweeping information grab in the history of nation state to nation state spine. There's nothing that even comes close to it. The only stuff that you could even talk about, really in the same same paragraph would be what the Soviets did to us, And what the Soviets did to us was extreme during the Cold

War in terms of theft of information. So we will keep an eye on this one team, and I'll have more for you as we move along. I don't think I ever gave you my final words on the Lost

City of the Monkey God. I may have mentioned this, but it just came up again recently because I was thinking about where I might be traveling in the next few months, and there was there was one place particularly came up that would have required malaria medicine, something that I've had to take several times in the past and very much want to avoid having to do again. Although if it's take the medicine or get malaria, trust me,

you want to take the medicine. It's The Lost City of the Monkey God is about an archaeological expedition to Honduras, and it's in the last ten years or so to find what was known as a Sidad Blanco, the White city, which was a Maya like civilization in an area of Honduras called Musquitia, which is incredibly rural, unexplored and almost like a lost area of the world. There's really nobody who goes in there, with the exception of some drug traffickers who might put down in the jungle in their

trek from South America where the cocaine has grown. Cocaine has grown primarily now in Peru, Bolivia, Ecuador, Colombia. Those are the main countries, and I think a bit in Venezuela too, although we don't have great visibility into that. And yes, I know some of your saying, buck, they don't grow cocaine. Cocaine is the drug. They grow the coca plant, which has been used in native ceremonies, in

medicine stretching back for hundreds and hundreds of years. Anyway, that's back to Honduras where the Lost City of the Monkey God, the title of the book, which is a

very popular book now. It was okay. The most dangerous stuff that they faced though in their journey, was the the day to day of being in a jungle, which is a reminder that the people that always think that, oh, if we're just in harmony with nature, like nature just wants to be our friend, just wants like take care of you, and just they've watched Avatar one time too many.

Nature is very destructive if you live in a lot of natural environments as a human being, if you try to do it alone, your chances of survival are quite slim. And the jungle is one of the toughest places to hack out a living, one of the harder environments in which to do that. I mean the deep, dense jungle of Honduras. So they have to deal with a fair to fair de lance snakes, which are a kind of pit viper that are very very deadly, and they have a few examples of that in the book when they

see them. And they're also aggressive. Some snakes, coral snakes, for example, are not particularly aggressive. You have to agitate them. Other snakes are kind of territorial and come at you like the fair de lance. And then there's the scariest thing, and this is what always bothers me about going to third world countries, is the leashmaniasis, which is a parasite that you get through the bite of an infected sand flea,

and the sand flea puts this parasite in you. And leishmaniasis has a few different variants and can be incredibly debilitating. It can be deadly, and it can be disfiguring too. There's a leashmaniasis strain that some of the people on this expedition acquired, including the author, that was very, very hard to treat. You can't really eradicate it. You suppress

the parasites. But if it were to overtake your immune system, because the immune system can hold the parasite and check somewhat, it eats away at your mucosal lining of your nose, your mouth, and essentially your face. And that's they call it white leprosy. It's terrifying stuff. I'm trying to avoid. You know, I did that, that adventure travel stuff in my day. One day I'll tell you guys the Africa stories.

But I don't know I've I've so far kept my Africa adventures to myself, at least having made them very public. But the other places I've been, you know, some places in a rock, someplaces in Afghanistan you have to worry about malaria, But in any third world country. The thing that always kept me the most on it just just the prospect of getting disease. And so I might be traveling to Asia next month. We're trying to get this all squared away right now. And I was thinking about

doing some after I go to to China. I was gonna say, maybe I'm gonna go into Cambodia and I want to go to Laos and I want to do some And then I'm like, yeah, you know what, I think I'm gonna go to like Hawaii instead. I don't know, I don't have the same Maybe maybe I'm just sort of I don't know what's happened. I just I used to have this this I was gonna say, the travel bug, But that's exactly what I don't want. I used to have this desire to go to really interesting, crazy places.

Now I want to go to places where I can drink the water out of the tap and the food is delicious and everything is clean and safe. I think I've gotten whimpier since I left this Cia man. I was down of the border. I was thinking, would I would I go and travel to Honduras to see what's going on with the migrant caravans. Would I do that, and I don't think. I don't think these days I'm going to rush to do that anymore. So I'll stay on the US side of the border for the most part.

I'd cover the cartels as long as they were in cities and places where they actually have good tacos and Margarita's roll calls up. Next team, We'll be right back. It's time for roll call. Roll call time, everybody. You know what that means. It's time to get into the call of the role, one of my very, very favoritest parts of the entire show. And I don't know why I feel the need to get into radio voice. We

do roll call, he oh, roll call, everybody. Come on down Dude Bob's Waterbed super Imporium for your latest best deals on waterbeds. You know I've never been on a waterbed, I can tell you. I do know that some leases for apartments in urban areas explicitly deny your right to have a waterbed, which kind of makes me wish maybe I could try a waterbed at some point, but I don't think they'd be very comfortable. I just think it will be an interesting novelty of sorts. But it's all

it's all fun and game. So you punch a hole in your waterbed and it squirts that water all over the place. That's no good, buck, get a grip, all right. Tommy is first up here at Douglas Murray The Strange Death of Europe. Here's a YouTube clip very relevant to our border discussion. Well, Tommy, And by the way, if you want to be a part of roll Call Facebook dot com slash buck sexon, just go to the message icon, send me the message and you can get on the show.

And also, if you're listening to this and you do not already, please follow me on Twitter and on Instagram. I'm on the gram. Everybody Instagram buck Sex the only one that I believe is on Instagram. There can be only one. There can be only one, and it's more like that, actually, Highlander Tommy. Yes, this is an interesting clip. I will take a look at it. I would say that if you want a book on the subject, Bruce Bauer, I don't know if it's Bauer or Bau or Bawer

or a book called While Europe Slept. He published it quite a while ago, maybe fifteen, oh, no, two thousand and six, I would recommend it to you. It's about how radical Islam is destroying the West from within, is the subtitle, and I think it is a book that you would very much appreciate and enjoy. Let's see what we have here, Sheldon. Next up, Hey, Buck, great show as always. Yes, Uncle Joe is a creepy old man, not the biggest problem. Can you please give more details

about Joe his son and the Ukrainian natural gas company. Well, Sheldon, my colleague at the Hill, John Solomon, is the one who broke that story. And what I can tell you about the story is without pulling up the details in front of me right now. Essentially, Biden's son was on the board of a Ukrainian gas company. Biden's son and a company that or in a maybe a shell corporation or some kind of a partnership that he set up,

was getting really big payouts from this. And that's where the graft and the theft of you know, public funds and all that. In the former Soviet Union in Russia and the former Soviet States, it really occurs around the natural resource companies. A lot of these guys who are billionaires now who own sports teams in the US and

in Europe. They made their initial money by the privatization of the state industries in the Soviet Union around things like, you know, natural gas, oil, you know, iron ore, things like that. Whatever, the potassium, whatever the important minerals are that they needed in that country. I don't know if any That was a very faint borat reference that maybe one of you got, but it just sort of came out. So I food, Yes, we have the best potassium. Uh yeah, No,

Uncle Joe's creepy. It's not the end of the world. I'm not going to pretend like it's the end of the world. I just I talk about it, mostly because of the hypocrisy of the media and the fact that it's fun to point out that Biden likes to go your hair smells so fresh and so clean. So creepy, isn't it. It's so creepy when he does it like that. Biden,

Why are you being so creepy again? Tom My main Man, Schiltz Hi Buck love the show and have been a faithful listener since I found the show during the primaries, But the sudden flood of ads on the app are obnoxious. I'm sure it's out of your hands but the ads have jammed in the middle of a word so times. Anyway,

I still gonna listen. Keep up the fight, Tom, Your voice has been heard on this one, my man, and the people that make those decisions listen to the show, and we'll make sure that we try to at least. I can't tell you that there'll be fewer ads on any specific platform, but at least they won't cut off the dulcet tones of Buck Sexton's voice. Here everybody my apartment smells of rich mahogany. Roger rights final funeral oration for Pericles and monologue of Henry the Fifth shot coffee

out of minos. Thank you, Roger. That's the point. I'd like to keep you all on your toes. And you think, oh, I'm just listening to Buck. He's gonna talk current events and politics and political philosophy, and then whoa, you just got crazy. I just snorted some coffee out of my nose. Gotta keep you on your toes listening to this show. I can't just get all comfy like we're in some kind of a you know, one oh one politics class. No, that's stuff. Keith next up in the mix here. You're

absolutely right spring Steen sucks. Keith. You know, you and I, my friend, are among the enlightened on this. There are so very many other people, and they are entitled to their wrong opinion. Who love the Boss? You know? They think Boon in the US say ours both. They think that that's like a great song, timeless and really pro American if you listen to the words, though it is not,

in fact really a pro American song. And Springsteen has the politics of Alyssa Milano and the common touch I think is a little overrated with Springsteen too, And the guys He's not my thing. He's not my thing. I just I know some of you like him. I'm sorry. I know I'm trolling you a little bit with this, but you know, then again, if you knew all the different music acts that I listened to, you'd make fun

of You'd make fun of them a lot. So I mean, is there some T Swift on my playlist for working out? I don't know. Can neither confirm nor deny that information is classified and you're not read in to the T Swift program. What's up, Jared Jared Wrights? Oh wait, sorry, Jared, that one got cut off a little bit. Isn't the

Zucker style in style? I would say to you, my friend, the Zucker style is never in style because Zucker hates America and freedom and he likes to unbutton his shirt down to his navel to give us a nice open view of that stuff that's going on there. Okay, next up here in the in the roll call, remember Facebook dot com slash buck sexton, Michael Buck. I'm afraid of the economic strain that closing the border will create, and that it won't actually stop the asylum seekers from getting in.

Is it possible Trump is threatening to close the border to get the media to port on the crisis, not saying he won't do it and that he's not justified to do it. I want Congress to act, but history and my cynical side doesn't think they will. I give Trump credit for trying to get Congress to act, we need to point out that it is really Congress's responsibility and the Republicans need to step the hell up and

back Trump's play shields high. Michael. It is Congress's responsibility, but we know they're not going to do anything about it, and they won't be held accountable. And one of the problems of Congress is that their collective responsibility, and they like it that way. That's why they don't like to take tough votes. Their collective responsibility is essentially a shield against meaningful criticism. So that's something that we have to deal with as a society and look at more thoroughly

in our political system. At lease, Hey, Buck, I was just listening to you live from El Paso. I really hope you'll post some of your findings. People need to know what is really going onto the boarder. Well, at least I wrote at The Hill dot com last week. If you type in Buck Sexton and the Hill dot com, I wrote last week on the border what I saw

down there. As of now, I should be joining Tucker Carlson tomorrow night during the eight pm Eastern hour on Fox News to talk about what I saw at the border, which I think will be a very interesting discussion. Now that might change based on the news, so I'll let

you know tomorrow if that gets canceled. That often happens in the news cycle, And I think I may be doing Fox and Friends this weekend as well, also on the border, so there'll be some opportunities to be to get the word out even beyond the Hill and on this show, which I appreciate. But the long and the short of it is, the border is worse right now then it has been probably ever. The border is the

worse right now it's ever been. If you are somebody who does not want illegal entry to happen in the United States, if you do not believe that people should be able to game the system and stay in the US in death, definitely, most likely forever, the border is worse than it has ever been. And this is happening under a president who ran on completely changing the game and finally doing something about the border. So I would be lying to you if I didn't say this is disheartening.

It is disheartening. And I know the President Trump is very focused in on this. I know that he is trying to find some way to take action, but it may be beyond his control right now. And if it falls into Congress's lap, we know the Democrats are simply not going to be helpful on this. They just have no interest in stopping the flow of illegal migrants into the country. This has become a central political platform for

the Democrats. I mean, this is something that really really matters to them, that they view that they view their party as the champions of immigration and immigration in particular from what are predominantly non white countries, because they believe that the American people owe the developing world, which is generally speaking the developing world as non white majority countries, we owe them, and therefore this is payback. This is

kind of like a global version of reparations. You know, the whole world should be able to come into America because of the rapaciousness of American capitalism and imperialism. It's a crazy ideology they've got, at least, but unfortunately it's the one they've got. Tomorrow, We're gonna have a freestyle Fried. They might have some friends join in on the show just to mix it up, so we'll see how that goes. But you know the show is going to be awesome.

Please do share it with a friend this weekend. How about an early Christmas present for mister buck Sex and get one friend of yours to download the show. That is my biggest favor I can ask if you get one person download this radio show and then after it's be like, is this not the smartest, most well informed radio show or podcast you have heard? And if they say yes, then I want to hear about it. If they say no, well then let's pretend that it didn't happen.

But at least get them to listen to it one time. That's gonna be it for today's show team. Excited to talk to you tomorrow, same time, same place. She'll tie