Horrific School Shooting

future of talk radio. Buck Sexton, Welcome to the Buck Sexton Show. Everybody. We have news still breaking here as we go on air. We're getting more and more information as it comes through on the wires and various channels and everyone who's covering it of a horrific school shooting in Broward County in Florida. What we know so far is that there is one suspect, he is in custody,

fourteen victims, according to Fox News. CNN says at least two dead, and some sources have been saying for a while now that um that there were multiple fatality so we might expect that there will be that that number of two dead will grow in the hours ahead. It's a tough a tough day, a tough night for the whole country, and thoughts and prayers go to the families of those affected. UM I want to walk through with

you what happened here. We'll try to find as much as we can a sense of how this unfolded and also what could have been done, if anything, about it. I don't take the approach that others do sometimes after terrorist incidents or after mass shootings like this, and pretend that there's an answer, that there's a solution that's just waiting out there if only we had the political will. You can expect there will be a lot of grandstanding from some pretty shameless politicians on the left about this.

They will make this about gun control. There will be slightly less partisan, but also some rather acrimonious discussions about mental health and what could have been done there. Here's what we know from this, from what's been reported so far, and like I said, fourteen victims, two dead. There have been reports of as many fifty injured, but we don't know the extent of those injuries, and that is not

a not a confirmed number. So this was in Parkland in in southern Florida, Broward County, north of Miami, and you have a situation where a student, a former student rather of the school, nineteen years old, and he has been identified as Nicholas Cruise, he went on campus and engaged in a mass shooting of students, some of whom he might have known quite well. We don't know, but he definitely was a student at the school. He was

known to some of the students. And now we're trying to ascertain what the series of events were that that occurred here. Now, I I'm going to play some audio for you that is from the moments of the actual shooting. I will tell you right now that it is. It is very disturbing stuff. When I heard it, I was I was honestly wrestling with whether or not we should even play it on the air. But I think if we're gonna talk about this issue in detail, and we are,

then we have to. I have I feel obligated to present you with the fullest picture I can of what happened here because we're also going to be discussing what could be done, if anything, about it. And the more we the more we know about how this heinous killer went about his plot today, the more likely it is at least that we can try to come up with some means of preventing the next one. Although like I was, like I said at the at the beginning, very tough

to stop this, very difficult to do. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to come up with new ways. And we are certainly going to remain vigilant and try. But this this is a warning for audio that I'm we're about to play it. It is from a student who is hiding under a desk at the high school here in Parkland, UM Marjorie Stoneman Douglas High School. And this is so if you if I just want to give you a warning about it. It is disturbing. And

here is the audio from the incident. So a lot of a lot of gunfire, a lot of screaming students trying to hide, students running for their lives. UM, it was terrible and terrifying. Here is a student eye witness to these events today on the third floor. He ran to the staircase. But then everyone like kind of paused and we all started running back. I was being like pushing and pulled through the hallway and he ran into

the classroom. In the minute I got into my classroom, I heard gunshots, like multiple rounds from I'm not sure what gun let me stayed in there for I don't remember how long, really long time, and the police came through the hallway to get us, and in the hallway saw a big pile of blood like kind of smeared

as if they were dragged away. And I saw two girls probably dead in the hallway, and then coming down the stairs there was some more blood and outside of the building there was another guy and I think it was a teacher who was pretty sure was dead outside. And what did you see that You said that you were inside and I was inside. Not just one gun shot, it was multiple. It really loud because it was right

outside my door. And like my teacher didn't let us out even when the the firearm did go off, which is lucky because then we could have really gotten hurt one of our classmates. But I saw basically the same thing as her. And there was just a lot of blood everywhere, and there was bodies kind of just everywhere. It's gross. And he saw a lot of Yeah, there was like I think there's four of them. So I

thought when you were getting out of there. Well, I remember my fund crying behind me, and I kept trying to tell her it's going to be okay, we're gonna get out, and luckily we did get out, but it was kind of scary and I didn't want to look at anything. So yeah, that was my thoughts. When your parents are here now, yes, okay, I'm just sure you're gonna give them a big from here. Now, it is believed that Nicholas Cruz, the alleged shooter, the alleged mass

murderer here, pulled the fire alarm himself. So he had been previously banned from the campus from this high school, and he came back, pulled the fire alarm, and then as students began to exit, and there was Now this is where we have to coordinate with the reporting from earlier than the day. But there were reports that they had already had one fire drill or one drill of

some kind of I don't know. That might have been misreported because they may have thought that this drill, that this this drill that where he pulled the will will will disentangle this throughout the show. We'll make sure we're up to date on it, but it is believed that Nicholas Cruise pulled the fire alarm and then when students were filing out or or leaving their locations is when he started shooting, which is a means of getting them all out of the classrooms and perhaps making it easier

to create a mass casualty event. Some students did shelter in place once the gunfire started. You heard that audio of the scene as it was unfolding. We know that this student had a background, that crews had a background of mental illness, that he was a problem. He was on the radar of of the school authorities as well

as I believe local police. There was discussion also of his involvement in a forum where there was talk of how to build a bomb, and that was one of the reasons why the police were although I think this was also this is also likely protocol on any mass shooting event. But as they were going room a room, there were concerns. As they were trying to clear out the building, there were concerns that there could have been

a bomb emplaced. We have nothing on motive yet, we have nothing other than just the obvious right psychopathic killer shooting a bunch of students that he likely knew, or at least a school that he certainly knew. Um, we don't have anything specific on the motive yet, we will learn a lot more because of social media, because of the online footprint that is left by by everybody now these days, we'll have a sense as to what this shooter's mentality was. Perhaps he may have even left a manifesto.

All of that remains to be seen right now. We first and foremost turn our thoughts to those affected by this. We try to grieve together as a nation. Um, this should not be turned immediately into a political event, but of course that's already happening, already calls for gun control. And then there's a discussion to be had here about what any security failures occurred, what if any procedural responses

need to be changed, what what could be done? And I come from the perspective of there's not always something that could be done. Sometimes the bad guys just sometimes they get through. Sometimes evil wins the day, and this is one of those cases. So we will look at this together. If you have any thoughts, by the way, if you have anything you'd like to share with the rest of the team, I would very much like to hear from any of you out there, any of you

with law enforcement background that want to weigh in. We're gonna talk about the school, what we know about security that was in place there, and and then get into some of the discussion right now about so what now, that's what that's what we turned to. What now? Eight four four five eight four buck. We have a whole lot more and uh, I'm thankful that you're with me. We'll be back. We've had approximately fourteen people transported to

area hospitals with varying degrees of injuries. They are all multiple casualties, though there there are folks that have lost their lives. I don't know their number right now. It's a fluid scene. Right now, we have multiple swat teams clearing all the buildings. If anybody knows anything about Stoman Douglas High School, it's one of the biggest schools in Broward County. It's huge. It's a huge campus. So we have multiple, multiple squat teams clearing every building to make

sure that there are no other shooters. Um, we have a shooter in custody. Uh. So there you have law enforcement telling us some of the background of what happened today. We are awaiting a law enforcement news conference. We will take some of that live for you here on the show once it starts. Get the the updates on what happened here. But some some key data that has added into the discussion from that law enforcement officer. First, the size of the school. This uh, this particular high school

um where the mass shooting occurred today. Marjorie Stoneman Douglas High School has almost three thousand students and it has multiple buildings, so it is a very large campus. It is more the size of a college than a standard high school. It is in fact larger than the college, almost double the size of the college that I went to.

So it's a big campus. Now that matters because we do know that Broward County, which is the sixth largest school district in the country, has armed security officers who are on site at high schools. So there was someone who was armed. We believe this is based on what's been reported so far, there was someone who was They're on the on the scene. But the scene is very large, right, I mean, it's it's a place that you know, if

you're in the wrong building. You probably had no idea initially that the shooting was going on, or maybe you heard the fire alarm that was pulled and nothing else. Um, But there was armed security. So what will come into play here, I think is where was armed security when the shooting started? Um? Was that person here or she able to respond effectively? UM? What was I'll be very

interested to know what the immediate procedure was there. It could have been multiple armed personal and campus by the way, I don't know. UM. And when once we start talking about prevention of these incidents, I mean, I'm always an advocate. For sure, it's good to have uniformed officer. It creates a sense of security for the students. It's good for also students to know, you know, there's somebody walking around in authority with with with a weapon. UM. I'm I'm

a believer in sealed carry. Uh. In these circumstances that you know, you want to have somebody who's armed and visible on campus. And remember its campus of the size remember a three thousand, three thousand young adults here, right, and and then you add faculty into it. I mean, this is a substantial, substantial physical facility. So that's why having armed security, I mean, it's makes makes absolute sense. So then you'll get into Okay, well, how much armed

security was there. But I'm I'm a proponent if we're going to talk about prevention, if we're gonna talk about having a shot at stopping these kinds of things um or or at least catching some of them in progress and lessening the casualty count, I think concealed carry is a very very important part of the discussion. You know, you don't want the bad guys to know, or in this case, the bad guy to know who has or may have a weapon. Now, this student had familiarity with

the school. He may have known exactly where and I'm I'm surmising here, I don't know this, but he may have known where that uh, that security officer, that armed personnel on campus would have been at this time of day. Or he might have gone for the building that is furthest away from that area of where we could have expected a response. It also seems that the student, uh sorry, the former student Cruise, the shooter may have engaged in the shooting and then thrown down his weapon, thrown up

his hands. And because he was found and about a mile away, is that I believe it was a mile away from the school grounds roughly. He was not found on school grounds. He was caught, Yeah, he was caught in the police perimeter that they had set up that at one point I think included a walmart and and multiple facilities well beyond the school perimeter. So they created

a lockdown zone. And I have to say, if law enforcement had not done that, it seems to me there's a real possibility this this shooter may have been able to walk and if they had just gone immediately to the perimeter of the school. So we actually have here, Can we go to the public safety from the bottom of my heart for your efforts out here today, UM, the FBI and the browd Sheriff's Office will be doing the crime scene investigation and the follow up to this horrific,

horrific incident. As I said before, this incident and truly makes me sick to my stomach. It's it's us catastrophic the they were set and to say that the seventeen people lost their lives, uh, twelve people within the building, um, two people just outside the building, one person out on Pine Island Road, and two people lost their lives uh in the hospital. There are people that are still undergoing surgery and just Pray for this city, Pray for this school,

the parents, the folks that lost their lives. It's a horrific, horrific day. Because I said before, my my triplets attend graduated from Stone Douglas High School, and uh, it's just horrible, absolutely horrible, and uh we will we We continually ask you in the media to continually put out the message

if you see something, say something. If anybody has any indicator that someone's going through a behavioral change on their social media, that they were disturbing photos perhaps bombs or firearms or just you know, videos or pictures that are are are just not right, that there's something, please make sure law enforcement knows about it. We're already you could follow us on Twitter. We're gonna put out numbers where people can can possibly call and what have you. Sara

phili keating Fox News. Are all of the victims, all of the wounded and fatalities students or is it a mixture of students and teachers? And can you give anything on motive? At this point we don't know because you can given to report. Can you move about keeping area? You can you go back there and do that? There was really very conscript did you get back to whether they're students teachers, a mixture of both. The mixture. I don't know if there any teachers, but there will be.

You know, there's certainly students and certainly adults. I believe there will be once so our investigators are that's a great question. Our investigators is certainly began in the dissecting social media and looking at the website and the uh Nicholas at the spellers named in I K O. L. A. S. Crews was the kill. Uh. He is in custody and we've already began to began to dissect his websites and the things that social media that he was on, and some of the things have come to mind are very

very disturbed. Do you have wounds injuries? He's nineteen years old. Uh, he was born in September. He was a former student of Douglas High School. Uh. He got expelled for disciplinary reasons. I don't know the specifics. I think he might have surfaced at Taravella High School. Was still trying to confirm that. Uh. And this morning when he woke up, whether he was a student or not, I don't know, because the number when either had whether or not we heard that, and

we have to go and do a break here. We come back. We'll continue with the Sheriff of Broward County updating us. But you heard that chilling figure. Seventeen dead in this Florida school shooting, more than were killed in Columbine. We'll be back in a few minutes. He's holding the line for America, Buck Sexton his back. Well, Unfortunately, we're

seeing it was much more frequency. The number of school shooting incidents just since the first of the year is astonishing and so uh the new normal in some respects. It's going to require a lot of new training in terms of how to deal with this new training. That's Police Commissioner Bratton, well known to us here in New York City. New training. How um, I don't know what training is going to do here. Really, there's already a lot of active shooter training that goes on with law enforcement.

These schools have drills for evacuation shelter in place. This former student nineteen years old was expelled. We've gotten more confirmation Nicholas Cruz, the shooter void of saying alleged all the time, that's a legal, you know thing. But the

shooter here, the mass murderer killed seventeen people. Likely that number will rise because over fourteen were taken to hospitals and they were shooting outside and shooting inside of the school building or school buildings, and adults as well as or teacher's faculty staff as well as students were killed

by the shooter. Looks like he pulled the firelarm to get them to uh leave the high school classrooms, uh not shelter in place, try to get people out into the hallways where he would just turn it into a shooting gallery. Many of you are familiar with your own high school, laout, I'm sure it's the same here. Usually you've got straight, long hallways, not a lot of not a lot of cover and depending we don't we don't know. I don't believe we've found out what the firearm was

that he used here. We don't know if it was a long gun or a handgun. UM. Some of you may be able to tell from the the on fire in the audio, but UM, I don't have that. I don't have that capability right now, So where I I

can't tell you that. So we don't know. Uh. Other shootings, just by way of comparison, Columbine massacre, which really was the first in many ways, I think the first, very well known of these school shootings that got a whole national conversation started on gun control, gun violence, the so called trench coat mafia, these uh ne'er do well, evil, you know, hateful students that just wanted to kill as many people as possible. I think thirteen were killed in Columbines,

so seventeen were killed in this shooting. More more people were killed by this one individual today than by the individuals the shooters in the trench coat mafia, the so called trench coat mafia, the Columbine massacre, and back in the Virginia Tech shooter at the Virginia Tech campus killed already three. So this is um a terrible day for Florida. I I wish well, we wish first and foremost this would just never happen. It does seem words come to

mind like senseless and hateful and evil. Those are all accurate, but they're not in any way. They don't fulfill our need to feel like we get answers here, or we have any sense of how to how to stop the next one. It's are this is already being politicized. I'll

tell you what some of those arguments are. And look, it's a public policy matter, so we will have to deal with that too, But for now, it just feels like it's it's very raw and I can't imagine what the families of the seventeen killed or are going through right now. And there's just there's nothing, you know, words words fail me on this one. Folks. This is uh, this is a tough day. I appreciate many of you are calling in and I encourage you to do so

and just share, just share your thoughts. I mean, there's let's all just get on the same page here. There's there's no there's no answer, there's no there's no way to bring these people back. There won't be any real justice here. Sure, this shooter might get multiple life sentences, maybe he even qualified for the death penalty, but that won't bring any of the dead back today. That's not

going to save anyone. So, um, there's a hollowness to these conversations that mimics very much what it feels like after a mass casualty terrorist incident. Well, I do think that in those cases there's more of a of a of a policy discussion to be had. There's more action that can be taken with this someone who just was I've chosen the path of evil. I mean, there's social media postings now that are out there that purportedly show

Nicholas Cruz the shooter. He's got a lot of He's got a lot of nah wives in his hands, he's got a lot of He's got photos I believe with firearms too, though I haven't seen those, but I thinking one he's kind of taking a wolverine like posture with some folding knives in his hands. I mean, that's he's clearly uh uh. You know, it's a messed up guy. And he got expelled from his school and made threats against students. But wasn't it enough to lock him up?

I'm guessing probably not. I'm guessing if you look at his record, he'd say there's no actual criminal activity before this where you could get any kind of meaningful sentence against him. And I don't know, maybe he's maybe he bought his firearms illegally. We we don't. We don't know the full extent yet of the preparations um and whether

he could have been it could have gotten him. But you know, I feel uh, and I was on the I was on Fox before talking about this, and I'll be on Fox again after I finished the radio show tonight, and I know I'm gonna get the question, um, you know, And this is where I try to look at it from the prospect of the Intelligence Division of the NYPD, which yes, worked on mostly terrorism, but just also any any strategic threat to the city of New York, to

its inhabitants, and to its environs is something that would fall under our purview. And we were in terms of prevention, you know, using the tools that are disposal to stop things before they happened as as much of the you know, as much on the forefront as we as we could be. And it's just very hard when you live in a society where rule of law means you can't just lock somebody up because you think they're you think they're nuts,

you think they're crazy. Um, that's not enough. Usually very hard to get somebody committed to a psychiatric facility if they have especially if they haven't committed any crimes, very difficult to do. And in this and and and then you also get into, uh, you want to talk about maligning a group that you know is overwhelmingly non violent and people with mental health issue is like a depending on how you how you look at it, it's a quarter or a third of the country have a clinical medical,

clinical medically diagnosable mental health issue of one kind or another. Right, I mean this, you know, mental health is like is like physical health. It spans a huge gamut, and so to talk about it as though mental health issues, it's it's insufficient. Not only are our solutions or proposed solutions to this problem insufficient, our language for discussing it isn't enough, and it just creates a frustration. A lot of the

things we talked about here on the show. I feel like, you know, if if if we took if the government took the or in some cases we as individuals a citizens took the appropriate steps, we could make a real difference and and make things better. I don't know what that is here, and I wish I did. And it'll be disheartening to see so many, especially people with large platforms and followings and politicians and people who have a

responsibility the public discourse to be better than this. It'll be disheartening that they're gonna say that, Oh, you know, anybody who doesn't immediately want some kind of a gun band or you know that there a a coward and they they're bought off by the n r A. I mean, the the level of a vitriol and nastiness that is displayed after all these events against people who have nothing to do with the event. They're just not in favor of policies that wouldn't that would not have prevented it,

and would infringe upon rights and freedoms. You know, that's that's unfortunately become a part of the rhythm of all this. So UM, I appreciate that all of you we got, we got every line lit and I want to hear from you, so thank you very much for that. And as we take calls, just know that we'll be opening up spots for you to call in eight four, four to five. Let's let's take some of your thoughts on this. Herb in New Jersey, Herb, thank you very much for

calling in good, good evening. Buck. Um, you know it's it's uh tough circumstances, my friend, I know, yeah, but um, you know, let's um let's take a concept from your motto shields high. Um. You know, the shield doesn't work unless it's held properly. And uh, I'm all for this concept that um UM based on in Local Apprentice. The same way you would want to protect your family, your children at home, UM, you would, you would expect that they would have the same protection when they're at school.

So why not take a select group of volunteers, administrators, UH, support staff, and teachers, UH, screen them, train them in the proper and effective use of firearms and other defensive techniques, and turn them into a school based active shooter response team, just like you do a q RT in the police.

Well you know her, but I well, one of the one of the facts that comes to mind right away about this particular shooting that's different from some other instances is that they're there are as far as I understand it. I'm sure we'll get more information. There are armed personnel on the campus. So are there enough? You can have two or three, but on a campus that big and that far reaching, are they really enough? Well? That's that

was exactly the point. That's why I said, I don't know the full square footage, but I mean, we've been doing more research here to figure out what we're dealing with them. When you're talking about multiple buildings and three thousand students. I mean, you know, that's that's a huge that's that's a that's like a college campus. That's a

college size campus. And so shooting, and assuming that this occurred mostly in one building and then outside and on the street, if you weren't in that building and nearby at the time of the shooting, now you're just talking about, um, I think you'd have to agree her mitigating casualties, you're certainly not able to stop all casualties. Well, of course, that's it's always gonna be the case. Look, the shooter is always going to get the first shot off. I mean,

it's just the nature of the beast. Uh. The question then becomes just how far do you allow it to continue? And if there's no shields to stop it, then it's going to continue un mercilessly until shields do arrive. Look,

I agree, I agree with you. I mean, and I think that I think the shields that are hidden, if we're gonna continue with the metaphor here, are oftentimes even more effective because that just puts the shooter in a very different you know, the bad guy here in a very different mindset to not know you know, you know,

it's it's one thing. If the guy wearing the uniform and walking around with a with a glock on his hip, you know that if you you know that guy is not around, well then you know you're probably the clear because I'm assuming the school is a gun free zone, right, But if you know Mr Mr Smith across the hallway who teaches geometry actually has got a you know, a three eight auto on them or something, I mean, you've

actually you've got something you can work with. Absolutely, And if it's made very clear that this school is protected by an active shooter response team, I think there would be a lot fewer attempts made because shooters are by definition towards Yeah, I look at that may. You know, I want to talk solutions as much as possible, and that's the only thing that I can think of that

would that would help in these situations. Herb that that's a that's an actual policy that could be implemented, right, an entire gun band and thank you for calling it her from New Jersey. Um. And you know, and an all out ban is just not it's just not feasible. It's not gonna happen. Um, even if the government try. First of all, the government tried to make it happen. The CONSEQT with the ramifications of that alone would be frightening, as I think everyone knows, um and short of an

all out band, you know, stopping. We don't even know what this guy used yet, and there's people already who are out there, and we're gonna you know that the politics of this is what we'll talk about more in the second hour of the show. I just want to get on the details. And as I mentioned before, seventeen dead in this Florida school shooting and dozens it appears dozens wounded. We don't know the full number just yet. UM at least fourteen taken two hospitals in the area.

Two died at the hospital, so we we could lose more. We don't know. The shooter is in custody. The shooter has been identified as Nicholas Cruz, nineteen years old, expelled from the Douglas High School here down in Florida, in Broward County, and you know, has a social media profile of somebody who who is disturbed. That's that's clear, he's disturbed. They knew this guy was bad news. What do you do? Eight four to five, We're gonna continue our discussion of this. Folks,

thank you for being here with me. I'll be right back. We're still covering breaking events here in the aftermath of a shooting at a school, the Marjorie Stoneman Douglas High School in Broward County in Florida. Seventeen killed, more wounded. UM, the sheriff is now I'm now seeing Oh gosh, I'm not saying this alert right now? Do you see this? Uh? Suspect had an a R fifteen and multiple magazines. So we have a process in place that gets initiated, so

there's calm, collected care that our patients received. Can you tell us anything about the fatalities at least their ages? Do they do you believe their students, possibly people that were working at the school. We prefer not to comment

on our patients and respect for our patients. Should we talk about just personally, I mean, seeing the sort of thing knowing that they I mean just as human beings outside to these doctors, you know, treating these people who have come in here after experiencing what it's not the worst event of their lives, and you know, having the responsibility of treating these people and you know, ensuring the best outcome that they can have. I mean, how does

that affect you all? Um, just as human needs. Well, we will do this every day. So what we saw today we have penetrating triala not penetrative troublem level to trauma center and that's what we're doing every day. And so fortunately for everybody, we were located very close to the high school where this shooting happened. So unfortunately for everybody, they brought the statis to our hospital and we were able to do a great job to to do the

right thing. You um, the suspect was brought here. I know you can't say much about some of the trauma surgence of the jus there's a medical condition or whatever. But for for a lot of people at home, you know, they might be surprised that the suspect was being brought he how do you guys kick in the epocratic oaths and do your job and knowing witness guy's intentionally is accused of Every patient that comes in gets treated as a patient and we take care of them medically, and

that's what we do. Was there any particular reason why he was brought to this facility versus one of your other facilities in the hospital system because of the occasionally they have to go to the nearest probal facility and we were the nearest Caber facility. Is this the biggest mash of passion for you can remember Quota hospital? Yes, and you're expecting worn victims. We cannot combient you can? Can you tell us if it was a large caliber

small caliber? I mean if you elaborate on a cotton l do you know the update on conditions for what the other hospitals the patients are right now? But the six pas we've got our stroll here whatever, uh you know, are any And I'm still in surgery that decurgeries go on after the inter we still have three patios and the operatings over it all there in the industries under some kind of surgery can describe what those assumes are,

I guess not as serious and being supports. Their demeanor was like I mean, I know it's obvious to describe it for us. Well, I mean, I prefer not to comment on a specific patients demeanor, but you know, as a human being, you could imagine um that they would uh huh be being shocked or you know, be emotional about the whole situation. You describe you think that coming in partiament. I think they've asked the doctors all that.

I mean, yeah, I mean the press questions that are not able to the doctors are not able to Can you walk through what's the next for these patients, specifically the three and critical food stable in their in terms of services iderstand chaplains are now here? Are you gotta have successful argers, They're gonna re covery, They're gonna go home,

Thanks very much. Alright, So we had a press conference there with some of the trauma experts at a nearby hospital, and as you heard one of the doctors say, lucky that was so close to the Marjorie Stoneman Douglas High School. Because you know, seconds count in in trauma situations like this, We're gonna get into um, so we're gonna continue to cover this coming up for the next hours and say we're gonna get into more of this. He's back with you now, because when it comes to the fight for truth,

the fuck never stops. There was set to say that seventeen people lost their lives. Uh, the twelve people within the building, yeah, uh, two people just outside the building, one person out on Pine Island Road. And two people lost their lives in the hospital. There are people that are still undergoing surgery. And just pray for this city, Pray for this school, the parents, the folks that lost

their lives. It's a horrific, horrific day. That's a sheriff down in Broward County giving us a sense of just what what happened today? What what this mass shooting with the death count is so far, it is a UM, it's a tough day for the country, really bad day for the state of Florida, and a tragic and life altering one for the families of those families of those killed and the families of the wounded as well. UM. Just to give you a sense of where this stands

in terms of US school shootings. In the Columbine shooting, thirteen were killed. I believe that includes the two the two shooters in that number, although I'm not sure. Today in Florida, in Parkland, you have seventeen dead so far, and you had eighteen killed back in nineteen sixty six at the University of Texas. Twenty seven were killed at the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre. In twenty twelve, and in two thousand and seven, in Virginia Tech, you had

thirty thirty two killed. Columbine was thirteen. Thank you, a producer might just made sure that my stats were correct. Column was thirteen not including the shooters. Thirty uh two students one teacher. Twelve students, one teacher is what we have in in Columbine. Yeah, so the deadliest ever was Virginia Tech in two thousand and seven. So far, um, this is this is a tough day for the country, and unfortunately it's already very much being politicized, which this

follows an all too familiar script. We understand what happens now, you will have some sense of universal sympathy and outpouring of support from the American people for those in the in the Browered community and Brower County community, and and then for the folks who were directly affected by this.

But then this will turn into a political fight and and it just and it gets into a really nasty one too, because on the one side of it you tend to have individuals who seem to believe that those on the other side don't really want to address the problem or don't want to make this go away. There no such thing as a as a constituency that exists this country that does not want to end school shootings, and we are all on the same page when it

comes to that. It's just a question of what's feasible to do in response, and also what the costs would be and whether it would be effective. So can we do it, should we do it? What's the cost of doing it? Those are the questions when you want to look at trying to address something like this was very, very difficult to do. You had Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut who was pushing for gun control immediately after, I mean with with within within hours. I mean it was

right away. It might have even sooner than that, within minutes, excuse me, within minutes of the shooting, senator from Connecticut's pushing gun control. Turn on your television right now. You're gonna see scenes of children running for their lives. This happens nowhere else other than the United States of America, this epidemic of mass slaughter. We are responsible for a level of mass atrocity that happens in this country with zero parallel anywhere else. Uh, it's wrong that this doesn't

happen anywhere else. It actually has happened, and including in very developed, in otherwise safe European countries. There have been mass school shootings. There was a very well known school shooting in Scottland. This is just off the top of my head. I'm not I haven't even pulled the research on this yet. We had there was one in Scotland. There was one in Germany. I think even I was

thinking was a preschool um. There was the Anders Brave Vick shooting in Norway that was at a camp but just mass slaughter of young people at a camp um. So this does happen elsewhere. Now that that, I just don't know why. If we're gonna have a discussion about it, and you're a United States senator, you're supposed to know what you're talking about. I don't know why they have to make stuff up. I don't know why it's okay

to fabricate things as part of this discussion. But they'll say it is that they will get past the facts right away. They're in They're in a post fact debate pattern here that they're emotionalizing the moment, using this as a means of trying to advance a an agenda of of gun control. Look, if I really believe that any of the measures that are talked about after these school

shootings would would reliably and realistically stop school shootings. I would be very open minded to it, if not outright in favor of it, I just know it won't and the facts, the statistics, and logic all back up my position. And on the other side of it, this has become, unfortunately a debate that really doesn't have all that much to do with guns. And this is why you see

the nastiness that the progressive left in this country. The Democrat Party opposes guns as on the one side, a massive exercise in virtue signaling they're the good people who don't who don't want any more violence to continue. And also their opposition to guns and the Second Amendment as a general proposition is really opposition to the kinds of

people who are legal, lawful, law abiding gun owners. They have a disdain for those in this country who are believers and supporters of and those who actually practice there right to bear arms, engage in their right to bear arms. So it's opposition to guns in the political context is really opposition to gun owners. And that's why you have idiot celebrities who will tweet things after an incident like this, and I saw this one today. You know, the n

r A is a terrorist organization. The Interay has nothing to do with this, and it's reckless and irresponsible to say that they to to even bring it up in the context of a shooting like this. Um, there are some other gun control options that I'm sure they'll be putting out there. Oh, they'll talk about background checks. I need the background checks will certainly come up as well. We all to say enough is enough. Uh. The question is, once you get into the investigation, how did the shooter

obtain the weapon? Was it a high caliber weapon? Was it obtained lawfully? And if so, that ought to have people to start thinking about such things as background checks on the purchase sub a gun and the question of an assault rifle if in fact this is I don't know those details. So there's a Senator Nelson of Florida and he is saying things like is it a high

caliber weapon? I don't even know what he what he thinks he's saying there, really, I guess, I mean, maybe he's referring to whether it was a rifle versus a pistol. But as you all know, because this is an audience that is very familiar with firearms and and and weaponry.

Thirty eight will kill you the same way that you know, uh, two to three will kill you, the same way that a seven six two will kill you the same I mean this is this is not really a relevant means of trying to address the problem, but they'll bring it up. They'll talk about it nonetheless. The notion of a background check. Okay, so this nineteen year old who was expelled from school, I don't know if he bought his gun legally or not. I don't know if he stole his gun. So we

can't really address that question here. But we already do have background checks in this country. There's a national Instant background check system NICKS. It's called the NIX system is in place. People will say it's not perfect, but it works most of the time, and we have background checks, so they want to do more background checks. It doesn't appear to me to be the case that would do anything.

It's worth noting that in the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, that shooter stole his gun from a family member, so the background check there didn't really have any particular meeting because it wasn't the gun wasn't bought, purchased, or owned by the person who might have failed the background check. So that's there. Yeah, I mean this. I'm waiting for them to come up with something that is applicable here that actually might have done something. Um, you had Jake

Tapper at CNN offering this up. You know, I'm old enough to remember when images of twelve and fourteen year olds walking out of schools with their arms in the air because there's an active shooter situation didn't happen and show up on my TV every week or two. What do you say to the parents out there who are frustrated and who say, Senator Nelson, we thank you for your thoughts and prayers, but we actually need more than thoughts and prayers. This is a crisis in this country,

crisis to be dealt with. How crisis that we can respond to in what way? Um, that's what needs to be answered here. We all understand it's a crisis. Well understand it's terrible, it's tragic. I will be updating you with the latest here right after this break. We we know now that the sheriff has Ah has confirmed that it was the shooter had an a R fifteen and multiple magazines, and that's what was used in the shooting. And we know that. Let's now well, well we'll look

at what else we can put together here. I'm very curious to hear your thoughts. I welcome your thoughts. A better way to put it on what happened today. I don't have the answer. I don't know anybody who does, but it's certainly something we have to talk about and think about and reflect on. Eight four four nine hundred two eight to five eight four four nine hundred buck. We will be back right after this break. We had countless magazines, are multiple magazines, and at this point we

believe we had one a R fifteen rifle. I don't know if he had a second Leacond. Right, So you have the sheriff saying he had a lot of magazines in our fifteen Air fifteen rifle on him. You can you can bet that this will soon become a discussion about a national assault rifle ban. Um, that's going to I think that's going to be where the the press takes this. I'm seeing on seeing lots of pictures of the Air fifteen is you know, Air fifteen is a

very popular rifle. Millions of them are owned across the country. UM, and now they're listing all the places where it was used. Park Land today, the Southern Springs, Texas shooting, the Las Vegas shooting, the Pulse Nightclub shooting, San Bernardino, Sandy Hook, and Aurora, Colorado all used the a R fifteen. They are building a case right now in real time for

an assault weapons ban. I know a lot of you would probably call in or email me and tell me an assault weapon is a made up term, I know, but legally they have actually instituted assault weapons bands in certain states as well as at the federal level previously, and they describe it as and they go through the characteristics as you know, of what it is. Some of them are cosmetic, but it is now a legally describable category, even if it's not really a firearm category. UM. But

that's where we are. Shane and bel Air, Ohio. Shane is a school teacher. Hey, Shane, Hey, how's it going back? It's all right, Mann, thank you for calling. Yeah, I just wanted to weigh in on uh. I know. One of the issues that we deal with in Bellaire, Ohio is a fact of funding for resource officers that are able to be in the buildings and the response time of our local police to be able to get to

the schools. You know, one of the things I don't know that you're ever going to completely stop the nut jobs out there that are coming across and you know, trying to take out soft targets. But the best thing we can do is try to eliminate the response, you know, minimize the response time. And I know that several of the districts in southeastern Ohio have actually started arming their teachers and even posting out in the front about their

teachers are armed, don't come into our school. What do you as a as as a teacher yourself, what do you think about that? Do you think teacher should be armed? Well, it's I think that there are a hand I don't think that every teacher is, you know, capable of handling a firearm, but I think that there's a select few individuals, you know, that are out there that are willing to take on that task to protect the students. I mean, that's that's my job as a teacher, to try to

protect my students as best I can. Walking ourselves in a room isn't exactly cutting it, you know, we're just we're sitting ducks there, you know, to be able to take a stance, to be able to defend our students and eliminate the again, minimize the response time. Yeah, you know, I aggreciate. I want to ask you though about because you would I assume this is something you'd be somewhat familiar with if you have a student who is I'm just wondering what the procedures are. I'm sure they very

state to state. But if you have a student that you think is really disturbed, you know, I mean, you have a student that you think is you know, torturing animals on the weekends and do it, you know, and and posting videos that are are really making you think he's violent, has violent attempt, but hasn't broken the law. Right, Well,

I mean, obviously torturing animals, we're breaking law. But you know what I mean, I mean, you've got somebody who, as you think, is sick in the head and and as a and as a danger, but hasn't yet actually broken the law. As a teacher, what are your obligations and what are your resources? What could you actually do well? In our school district, we have, uh, several different things in place to be able to attend to that situation. One, we have a student Services that if we start to

recognize those things. I'm a mandated reporter in the state of behind Us. So anything that I noticed in in that type of situation, I have to report to my superiors and also to you know, if it's a in a result of a child protective situation, I have to call the CPS and notify them. In the case that you're describing, you know, obviously I would bring my concerns to student services and see if the counselor down there

would be able to work through that. And obviously we would be discussing that in our building leadership teams talking about you know, we need to keep an eye on this kid, he's been acting this way, and you know, identify those kids so that you know, we can keep an eye on those types of things. So there's there's reporting procedures in place, but you know what, what do they do with it. Let let's say a high school aged kid that everyone thinks is is a risk, but

can't be incarcerated because he hasn't broken the law. I'm just one. I mean, it sounds to me like your report they can know, but not much that they mean, they can kick him out of the school. They kicked this guy today who's the shooter, out of the school. But then where does he go? Yeah, and that's a very good situation. The exact thing actually has made national news in our our little town of Belair. Uh a gentleman by the name of Nathan Brooks back in I

believe you know, all the teachers saw warning signs. They reported it. The kid was just off his rocker, and he ended up going home and the potating one of his parents and stabbing the other one multiple times. And he's got a lifelong sentence. You know, what do you do? You know, teachers knew that it was going to happen, you know, and he was he was going to take out several more students, but ended up turning himself in. What do you do is in that situation, you know,

our hands are kind of tied. But Shane, can I just ask you to teacher? I mean, you know, I don't know if you've ever been around this yourself, but you feel like you know, you know when you know when a kid's a threat. I mean, you have a pretty good sense of it. Yeah, there's there's definitely you know, just things you know, if you pay attention to your

you know your surroundings and the people around you. You know, just even when you go to a restaurant, you just kind of know where to sit and who's acting funny. As a teacher, you know that second nature you pick up on those types of things, and that's you're burying your head in the sand. You'd have to be an

idiot not to. Yeah, I mean I figured that. I figured you have a good sense of who's you know, who may be a problem, who's not um And look, I'm sure most of the kids you deal with the really nice kids, but you know, I'm obviously there's there are rare they're they're there are rare exceptions here and there, and you know, I'm sure you're attuned to that. Shane, thank you for calling in and sharing a an educator's

point of view on this. I really appreciate it. Shields High. Uh, we got more calls in on this one, and we'll be taking them. So they're gonna go for the Uh, they're gonna go for a RS. I think that's that's what's gonna happen. Next. We're gonna say there needs to be a ban on sale of new air fifteens. Maybe they're gonna push for all the Florida is pretty pretty strong on gun rights. They may try something there, but I don't think they'll get very far on a magazine

limitation or something. But this, it's gonna be the same exact playbook, the same storyline, the same political fight that we saw after Newtown and some of these other incidents. Uh, and we'll see um. I think that this is the first time also that Trump has really had to way in while he's the president. While he's uh as in the United States, weigh in on whether or not there's gonna be anything that comes from a legislative side here. Um. And by the way, in the third hour, we're gonna

switch up topics because it's only so long. I think I can handle this before it's just too much. We'll be back other shows. Just talk at you in the Freedom Mud. We have a mission. We fight for the truth in a team effort and buck us back with our next play. Thanks for staying with me, everyone. We are bringing you breaking news here on this school shoot footing in Florida, and we have seventeen dead thus far

as expected. The number will likely climb higher than that, given that there were over fourteen people taking to the hospital somewhere dead on arrival at the scene when police arrived at the scene, so we are waiting to see

if that casualty account goes higher. We know one shooter identified as a Nicholas Cruise, nineteen years old former student, and looks like he started shooting outside the building, came into building, pulled the fire alarm, and then turned to turn the hallway of one of these buildings at the Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida into a kill zone.

And there were armed security personnel at the school, though not clear how many or how close they were to the initial incident, and they then created a perimeter and the shooter was captured off school ground, so he almost got away. So we'll be looking more at the response with this. But I wanted to note that there are already stories that are coming out from eyewitnesses, people who were there during this horrific event. I there are stories

of of heroism as well. I mean, it certainly is reassuring to have all of our law enforcement personnel on the scene and doing everything they can to tend to the people there, and also first responders, and you even heard from some of the surgeons who were trying to save lives of the wounded. But there were some there were some heroics as well during this incident, including uh Is believed by a teacher. Here's the first person account

of how one teacher responded during the shooting. We all got upstairs and into our classrooms, and when he tried to unlock the door, me and a couple other people ran in, and as he was closing the door, he was actually shot and killed right there. And the door was left open the whole time, so as he walked by, the door was open. He could have walked in at any time, and we just had to be as quiet as possible. So he he ran back to open the

classroom for you guys so you could be safe. Apparently, So when we ran in, yeah, he was about to close the door to the door after they had gotten back in. He was trying to lock the door to keep the students safe. And before he had a chance to close and lock the door, that's when he got shot. So a teacher was killed trying to lock the doors so the students inside would be safe. Oh man, So heroism, but heroism that ended in the you know, the life

of the hero lost in the circumstances. Look, it's it's a it's a very it's a very tough day for the country. There's no there's no words that we can say here that will that will change any of that. And we're just giving you the details as they come out a R fifteen multiple Maggazines. Political debate is already

it's already begun. I mean, I almost hesitate to tell you what's what some of the stuff that's being said on on social media right now, just because it's always a bit of a shock how how hateful people can be. After something like this happens, you would think that there's a normal, decent human impulse to just toned down the nasty rhetoric and the name calling and all that stuff.

But now you get a lot of a lot of people, including those with big platforms and and large followings, who will be saying that this is the fault of those who support the Second Amendment, this is the fault of gun owners, this is you know, any number of things, and that's that's not constructive at all, as we know, it's it's reckless and it's irresponsible. And yeah, by the way the gunman was we have more information of the gun was wearing a gas mask and may have had

smoke bombs on him as well. So it seems now we have a gunman wearing a gas mask with an a R fifteen, multiple magazines, and they believe he may have been carrying smoke bombs too. I would note that the footage of the shooter when we saw him being taken into custody, the footage showed him without any It didn't seem to get any tactical gear anything on him. So he may and this is just my analysis, this

is not confirmed. It seems to me that he may have shed his gear and tried to uh and tried to escape on foot without the stuff, or maybe he was shot and in exchange with law enforcement and then they, you know, he dropped his rifle. Then I don't know, but it didn't seem like he was in the photos. It didn't seem like he had anything like a flak vest or a tactical vest on. Certainly didn't see any smoke grenades attached to him. Looked like he was just

wearing a T shirt. Uh. We had this nineteen year old Nicholas Cruz, who's in he's in custod he's alive. And here we are. We have had eighteen school shooting so far this year. That's a number you're gonna be hearing a lot. Eighteen school shootings and about a hundred a hundred and fourteen, is that right, Mike? From starting? A hundred fourteen school shootings total since Sandy Hook in twelve, well, one forty two I'm sorry, one forty two, hundred forty

two shootings since Sandy Hook, So you're averaging. Let's see here you've got since twelve, so six years, and in six years you've had a hundred forty two school shootings. So you know you're you're looking at a little over twenty over twenty year between twenty and thirty a year, let's say, let's call it. And you've had eight team

so far this year. So this has been a particularly bad year so far for school shootings, and we may have to get into a national discussion about whether there's a just this is a copycat effect at work, that the disaffected, the the angry, the evil, those who for whatever reason, have it's even tough to get in the psychology of this and how how someone could ever be so so angry, so hateful, so vengeful, so completely lacking in any consideration or or a thought for his fellow

human beings going to a school and just start shooting much innocent people. It really defies imagination. It's hard to think of how somebody gets to that point, and yet it is something that happens with some ah some frequency. Now, um, anyway, I wonder if you have any thoughts on this, folks. I know we've had a lot of calls coming in and out throughout the show. Do you think that there's a I think there's an Do you think something has changed?

Has this gotten worse? Is this just our perception of it is because of the reporting of it, or are we in the midst of a a school shooting wave that has gone from being a very unfortunate fact of of life in this country to being an epidemic. Is there a sense of additional urgency because of the scale of the emergency here and and the speed with which

these incidents are happening. I don't have answers to those questions, and I'm wondering if you have thoughts on it or just anything that you want to share with with everybody listening about you know, what do we do now? What are we? What are we to make of this? Eight four four n eight to five on the lines eight

four four nine bucks. I am going to tell you right now, I can't really, you know, it just becomes emotionally and psychologically taxing to delve into this for the full three hours, and the next hour we're gonna change out. We've got some guests joining, We're gonna change up topics. If I have important breaking news, I will share it with you, but we will we'll move on to some other things in the third hour of the show. I just I don't think it's helpful or useful for us

to go beyond the analysis that we have already. We've already been engaging in here for the third hour um and again lines lines are open. We'll be right back. So no updates yet on any more casualties from this mass shooting in Parkland floor to the school shooting. Shooters and custody identified as Nicholas Cruz and wore a gas mask, had an a R fifteen. Multiple magazines pulled the alarm as he entered the building. He entered shooting, he had already shot people outside and then shot as many as

he could inside. I'm wondering, you know, we we don't yet know, um, what exactly circumstances were of his capture because he's in the hospital. What do we know if he was shot? Was he We don't he was not shot, right, We don't know. I mean, if he was taking the hospital, I mean he oh, it's it's just yeah, it's well, So we don't know. He might have just been taken because he's being taken to the hospital to see but they also may have been taken because he was shot.

But see, if he was just taken there, he didn't seem like he was from the video, like he was bleeding out or anything. So that strikes me as I think he shed all of his gear and thought he was going to get away with the rest of the students, and then they finally some of the students knew who he was, and they they gave a description and they finally got him. I mean, the cops got him. Um,

but I want to know how the apprehension happened. We have really very little information right now about how they actually apprehended the the mass shooter here and oh, gosh, all these this is one of these things. This is the It's terrible just thinking about the casualties, the families, what these kids went through. We have audio of the

actual shooting, kids screaming um. But then you also have all these you know, young people afterwards who are just a lot of them are are literally in shock, and they are in a state of shock. And then they come together and start sharing stories and people will be telling what their first hand experiences were of their shooting, and you'll hear it and you'll see it. And I know there were kids who were in closets, tweet hiding in closets and hiding under desks, who are sending messages

to their parents during the shooting. It's it's just terrifying. I don't know. I mean, I don't you know, I can't imagine. Um. Here we are not a lot of not a lot of solutions, folks, not a lot of takeaways from this that would be I think that would be helpful or realistic in terms of stopping the next one. But let's see what you all think. Felix in Pennsylvania, Felix, always good to talk to you, my friend. What do

you think? All right? Buck. You know, I'm fifty eight years old, okay, And as I reached back with my memory, I just do not recall there being these mass shootings years ago. Prior to column bind whenever you had shootings, people usually had specific people that they were angry at.

There's a period where there was a post office shootings, and yeah, there was the expression of very I mean very you know, flippant and not pretty move when people say you're going postal right, meaning that you were head gone nuts. Yeah, but you know, they usually went in and they had one, two or three people that they were angry at, you know, and they didn't just go in there and shoot everybody. Uh. These mass shootings to me, for some reason, it just seems like it's been since

I would say column buying or something like that. Otherwise, prior was rarely did you have the situation. There was that one in Texas like in the nineties sixties where the guy was in the tower. Yeah, I mentioned I mentioned that one. Yeah, University of Texas six. Yeah, and there was really I think no reason for that one. But aside from that, generally speaking, shootings, you know, during that period of time, they were just angry people that were angry at somebody, you know, and and what after

a specific target. This just makes no sense whatsoever. Yeah, it seems like in these mass shooting situations. Oh my gosh, is that what I'm sorry, Felix, I'm okay. Well, uh my gosh. I thought I just saw a video flashing up on the screen when we were on air, and I saw somebody enter a room. Uh you know this

is on TV. You saw somebody enter a room and it was footage from inside the school within within a R and just for a second that, oh my god, but it's actually you can kind of it was law enforcement, thank god, entering the room to make sure the kids are okay. For a second there we had cell phone video of somebody entering a classroom with the a R. I mean, you could basically tell from away the guy walked in that his law enforcement. Then he gets closer

you can see anyway. Sorry, I just had a I just had a moment there where I was I was watching this in real time around the phone with me, you know. I the numbers when when they talk about shootings in the United States versus other countries, you've got to take into account how large the United States actually isn't how big it's population is. I'm sure dwarfs West you know, all the countries of Western Europe put together, you know, so that's pretty noncesical when they make those

kind of comparisons. Yeah, well you have to certainly account for population. One of the problems when you look at what the with the New York Times when they've I've seen some New York Times compilations of of mass shootings and looking at the data and that they won't take population into effect, and they'll say things like, well, you know,

we don't have uh, this doesn't exist elsewhere. And look, we have never had a mass shooting on the scale of the Beslan school masker for example, which I know it was a terrorist attack, but it was at a school. And when you when you look at islands in schools around the world, First of all, there have been student on student shootings elsewhere, and there have also been horrific acts of violence specifically targeting schools and school aged children.

So it's not unique to us. And when politicians say that it's not true. But I will say that there's a from from what I'm seeing on the statistics here, there is a surge in school shootings this year, which I I can't I can't come up with even a working thesis right now for why that is other than there's a copy cat effect now with social media. I think that these these vile, malcontents, uh see this as a as a means of you know, they'll kind of achieve some level of fame and they'll be able to

you know, this this guy obviously he's not dead. He didn't go down shooting in this one. Um, but Felix, I don't know. I don't have a I don't have a good read on why things have gotten worse with mass shootings in recent months, you know. And also too, it's just this guy wasn't even supposed to be there. He was expelled from school. Uh. These things just they

make no sense, you know. And like when people talk about possibly you know, teachers that can be trained and you know, want to be armed, they should be back when I grew up, I mean, you know, there were you were allowed to have guns on school property. This is another new thing, you know, and you're leaving people completely defenseless. Yeah, this is a gun free zone. Yeah. And you know another these are all happening and quote gun free zones. Felix, thanks for calling her from Pennsylvania. Man.

Always good to have you on board. Uh, this is a gun free zone, and it's clearly not a gun free zone for the bad guys, as we've discussed many times before. Um, it's just a gun free zone for anybody who might want to either go hunting after school or defend themselves in school. Ah. And it's not it's not enough. I mean when you when you look at the real logistics of the of the actual assault here,

this guy has a has a semi automatic rifle. This guy Nicholas Cruz, and he's just going and he's just going from mash mass casually he's gonna shoot his people as possible. You you're looking at casualty mitigation in these cases. Even even if you had had every single teacher in this school armed, I don't think that you would have been able to stop this guy from killing anyone. Really, I'm just being realistic here, but you may have had instead of the seven team dead that we've see now,

you know, you may have had three or four. And obviously that would mean that there are a whole lot more people that would be going home tonight to their families, um than currently are. So you know, you're looking at

casualty mitigation, not elimination. So, uh, because I don't know what you're I don't know how you're gonna stop, you know, unless this guy was going to decide to take on armed security himself first and foremost right to try to take out security personnel to leave the school even more defenseless. And I hate saying this, but there's a part of me that also thinks this guy is an a R multiple magazines. It's got a school of three thousand students. We're you know that it could have been it could

have been worse as terrible as this was. I mean, and it has been worse than the sense that there have been school shootings with higher casualty accounts, So that that is that is uh just a factive history at this point, folks. I'm just it's very troubling. I'm I'm I feel um, I feel like analysis of the situation right now it's just insufficient. It's uh, not not enough answers.

I'm gonna be doing a lot of research and looking into everything I can tonight to try to figure out if there's if there I like to talk about solutions. I like to talk about making how we can make things better, how we can at least lower, if not eliminate, the risk of these kinds of incidents. And right now I just feel a sense of sadness and frustration, and that's that's what I'm kind of overwhelmed by that Right now,

I'm going to take a break from this though. We're gonna get into some other topics kind of the third hour. I hope you're okay with that. We're gonna move on to just some other news the day and things on my mind because I think we all need that. We'll be back. He's holding the line for America. Buck Sexton his back. Welcome to our three of the buck Sexton Show.

I told you we would move on from the topic of We've spent a couple of hours that already talking about the school shooting in Parkland, Florida, at the Douglas High School. There seventeen killed. We will um, We're gonna get into some other topics this hour. An update from our friend Annie McCarthy on the situation of the dossier

and the Democrat memo and all that Russia stuff. Also got Adam Crado joining from the Free Beacon to talk about um well Iran positioning a whole lot of missiles in Syria pointed at Israel, as well as a story that may lead to Al Jazeera that anti American network paid for by the government of Cutter might have the Registers of Foreign Agent tell you about that, and also some weird spying operation that they had going on in

this country al Jazeera did. And then we'll get into some just of your your thoughts here on on roll call. Just an update I had said, based on my but based on what I'd seen from the arrest videos of Nicholas Cruz, that it seemed to me that he likely had ditched his gear and had tried to get away as a as a student, trying to pose as just

another student fleeing the terror. And I saw that that has been there are sources now confirming that to reporters that that was in fact the case, that he he ditched his gun and his gear, whatever he had on him, his gap, he had a gas mask, they believe he had smoke grenades. He got rid of all that went down to a T shirt and you know, probably jeans or whatever, and trying to just escape, like the right

propose as a fleeing student. And because other students I assume knew who he was, knew who the shooter was, law enforcement was able to um get him before he could get outside the cord. The cord and they had set up and so that's how he got him. Also means this guy really thought this thing through, and I was he was trying to get away. He was trying to get away. Um anyway, So if you wouldn't mind, folks, I'm gonna switch gears here for a second, just because

I I kind of have to. Um. If there's anything else that breaks I promised this hour, any other important news about this, this terrible event, I will bring at your attention. Okay, you know, mind immigration, it's talk about immigration for a few minutes. Let's uh move to something else here. So you have the Senate in the in the midst of trying to get a deal. Here, here's my short version of where I think all this is going.

It's not going anywhere. It's not going to be an immigration deal because the Democrats only want a full scale and total amnesty. They they have no interest and anything that could prevent that. That's where changes to change. Migration changes to interior enforcement. Changes to any existing either enforcement priorities or immigration structural immigration issues are just gonna be

completely unacceptable to the Democrat Party. They're gonna say no way, because they want eleven million legalized that are currently illegal. M Paul Ryan is trying to sound hopeful on this issue. Here's what Here's what he had to say. We have a problem that needs solving. We want to solve doctor, but we also want to solve DOCA in a comprehensive way such that we don't have a doctor problem in

five years. The President did a very good job of putting a very sincere offer on the table, and that sincere offer that he put on the table should be the framework through which we we come together to find a solution. We want to find a solution. Our hope that our Democratic colleagues are more interested in finding a solution than preserving an issue for campaigns. I don't think that that's going to be the case. I do not think that we will have UM Democrats trying to seriously

find a way two uh. I do not think the Democrats will have in any way, shape or form a serious deal that comes out of this UM. They don't want to deal. They don't want to deal. And Tom Cotton chimed into the Senator Cotton to let everyone know that Trump is this is as good as they're going to get for the I mean, on the Democrat side of it, in terms of an offer from the Republicans. This is it, folks. The President's Framework Bill is not

an opening bit for negotiations. It's a best and final offer. It's going to encourage more illegal immigration. We know that. So we have to cure our southern border. Ire bill provides the money and the legal thority and do so. And it would create a whole new pool of legal immigrants who could legalize their families to include the parents who created the problem in the first place. That's why we have to end the practice of extended family chain migration.

That's right, you gotta en change migration. See, that's a long term immigration issue. Yah, there's a lot. That's because that's immigration policy. That's not even that's not about illegal that's about legal immigration. That is shifting the framework of who we bring into this country and who gets to stay, and what the grounds are for permanent residency and even citizenship in this country. And Democrats don't want to change that at all. They have a system that works for

them right now, which is illegals get to stay. Illegals are increasingly important political constituencies in New York, in Chicago, in Los Angeles, UM, they are really they really determined politics in those plays is because you can't go against the legal community or you will no longer be an

elected official. And then on the immigrant on the legal immigration side of the equation, you have h a large proportion of people who come into the country from poor, developing countries and they bring family members with them, and it just creates constituencies of voters for the Democrat Party that are going to be multigenerational and stretching far into

the future and have a tremendous impact. Right the Democrat Party is dedicated and it's a decades long project to the demographic change of this country in favor of state is um and the ideological left. That's the plan, that's the goal. So when I think Trump's opening offer here shows as much as originally I was a little concerned because I thought it was too too favorable to the other side based on his promises are in the campaign. What this shows is that that is in fact the

Democrat plan because they won't move on this. There won't be any part of this that is in fact acceptable to them. They will walk away, they'll use it as a mid term issue, and they will continue on as is. That's my prediction on this. There will be no deal on immigration, despite Republicans being fair minded and operating in good faith on it. All right, we're gonna have Annie McCarthy joining us here in just a moment. You're gonna want to hear what he has to say about surveillance

and PISA abuse. And if there are any additions, any breaking news on the school shooting, I promise we'll bring that to you as well. Stay with me, alright, everyone, So, there's still a whole lot of unanswered questions as we know, and it's gonna be that's gonna be true, I think for months, if not years to come about what's going on with the whole Russia collusion narrative, the FISA abuse allegations,

all of that. And we have some some new developments though that I wanted to work through with our friend and expert on these matters, Andy McCarthy. He is, of course, of National Review and he's a former Assistant U S Attorney for the Southern District of New York Andy. Great to have you on, but great to be with you. All right, So I know you've been you've been addressing this for a few days now. I just want you to to explain to everybody because I think it's a

critical point. There was a lot of oh, Carter Page, what wasn't part of the Trump campaign when the surveillance was going on at least from what we know of, or they started it before he was Trump. And and what you've been telling folks is and I think this is really important for everyone to hear. Once you once you get somebody up once, once you've got the miked up, so to speak, you get access to a whole lot of stuff current, future and past, right if they have.

If you're up on somebody's communications devices, you get all the forward going stuff, of course, but if the person has or email restored texts, you get those as well. So I might operating theory on this, and we have to have these I guess guys like you and me, Buck, because we don't have the current information, but we do we've got been around the block enough times to kind of know how these things work, and what these guys

were probably thinking. I believe that they thought the mother load with respect to Carter Page was not going to be as forward going uh communications, although I think they were very interested in those as well. I think they were hoping to get communications that he had while he was with the Trump campaign. So the the sequence of events is they go up on, we should go up on they begin their surveillance on his communications devices, whichever

they were in October. It was I think October twenty one, UH he had parted ways or the campaign the Trump campaign had parted ways with him in mid September, after these press stories came out about the Steel dossier, which talked about him in the context of his h of his trip to Russia. The Trump campaign decided he was a hot number at that point. He was never that important to them anyway, so they kind of formally cut

ties with him. But what I think the investigators were hoping was when they got up on his phones and his his email and text and whatever else in October, that he would have stored email and texts and they would get the Trump Russia communications to the extent there were any, And I think that probably turned out to be a dry hole. But I imagine that's what they were thinking. How how believable do you find it? Andy?

At this point, um and forever and listening case you and he was a federal prosecutor for over twenty years, so he's he's got a sense about these things. How believable is it at this point that there's like, actually, apart from the dossier, really solid information on carter Page that would justify the kind of surveillance that they were doing outside of in the well, I mean, counterintelligence is a lower standard. But do do you think that they

were were they playing games with this? I mean, do you or do you think there really was information that would be damning? Because I just feel like if carter Page was really up to shady stuff, Andy, how come no one's even whispered. We haven't even had a leak of a theory of a criminal charge against carter Page. Yeah.

Not only that, Buck, he's suing people for libel. So you know, if there's something out there were about him, he's certainly inviting it to be disclosed, since you know, the truth would be a defense, uh to any of his libel claims. So I think you're quite right you know, I've I've tried to point out to people, but that when you're dealing with an American citizen or what they call in the federal law a u S person, which

is citizens, then lawful permanent residents, green card holders. But when you're dealing with somebody in that status, FAISA has a more demanding test for surveillance. You have to show not only that the guy is engaged in clandestine activities from which it's fair to conclude that he's acting as an agent for a foreign power, you also have to show that those clandestine activities undertaken on behalf of that

foreign power are probably violations of federal criminal law. So it's not enough to just say he was furthering Russia's agenda. You have to show that he was doing something that was in violation of federal law. Now, you always have to caution that the FBI knows a lot more than I do, and the intelligence community generally knows a lot more than I do. But but that said, um, the the stuff that's in the Steal dossier lays out some

potential prosecutable crimes. I'm not aware of anything else with respect to Carter Page that does that's not to say it's not out there. They could know more than we do, but that certainly seems to me like it's the likely source of it, and it wouldn't it be incombent then in on the FBI to try to find a way to get some of that information out there. I mean, there's it just feels like they're playing this big, big game of hide the ball now from the American people.

And as you know, it's national security information, classified information. It's always a balancing act, right, It's not just oh, it's classified, so we're gonna just keep underlock and key forever. In fact, a lot of information over time is by law declassified. That's the way it's supposed to go. So the public has a right to know in time, just

can't know right away. To me, it seems like if the FBI has got more on this guy, we need definitive proof that they did, because otherwise this whole thing just it really does look like a sham. Yeah, well I don't. I'm a little bit um. I'm willing to cut them a little more slack than that, but not much.

So here's here's what I think happened here. I believe that they believed steele Um and if you, if you, I think it's very hard in to put yourself in the shoes of what everybody was thinking in the autumn of But if you believed steele Um and you saw what he was alleging, that would be very very alarming. If if even half of that was true, it would

be very alarming. And I think steele came to them with credibility because he had cooperated with them or helped them on the FIFA soccer investigation, and they thought well of him, so they overlooked the fact that they couldn't corroborate his sources, which to me is the biggest uh default in this whole escapade. Because I'm I'm less as bad as the issues with respect to steals biases are.

I'm less concerned about that than I am about the fact that his sources are anonymous Russians who are three and four hearsay levels removed from the events that they supposedly saw. That the judge was asked to rely on the probable cause. So I think that's the bigger problem. But I think what happened here is they believe steal and in some ways Buck you know, you know, with counterintelligence.

I think these guys think they're playing with the house money in the sense that when everybody when when prosecutors and investigators are in a doing a criminal case, if they go to get a warrant, even though it's just them and the judge, when they go to get the warrant, everybody knows that everything is eventually going to be disclosed. It's all gonna be handed over to the defense lawyers and the defendant, and the court's gonna pick over it.

So that keeps you on your good behavior because you know down the road someone's gonna be checking your work. And I think here they they're operating under the cloak of counterintelligence where everything's top secret, and they believed Hillary was going to win. So I think that that makes

you sloppy. I think that you know, they were I'm going to cut them some slack, that they were legitimately alarmed because they thought Steel was a credible guy, that at least some of what he was telling them was true. But they were operating around the edges. They were getting a little creative. Yep, yeah, yeah, I think so too. And you just want more for you on the on the Democrat memo, I don't really understand that the process.

I mean, I I know about how classified information works, and I know about how the executive branch processes work, but I don't. So so the Congress, you got, the House Committee voted to send this Democrat memo through, but now the FBI and the White House have sent it back and said there's too much classified in it. So and other Democrats are saying that they won't release it or what are you what's going on here? As far as you see it, it it seems to me like there's

obviously games being played here. Yeah, I think there are, But this is one of the issues, but where it's more of a legal I mean, a political thing than a legal thing. So there's this congressional process in the House. The Senate doesn't have this, where the committee can vote to declassify something and then in their rules it gives

the president five days to weigh in. Now, when the President says I object, that doesn't have the force of law, because Congress has full immunity under the Speech and Debate clause. If they want to, if they want to express something that's classified, Uh, they can do it and they can't be prosecuted for it. But of course, no congress person is going to want to do something that looks like it's damaging to the country or looks like they're exposing

classified information for no other reasons. So it's kind of a game of chicken. I think what happened here is that the Democrats laced their letter with a lot of message and sources stuff, knowing that that would be objected to, and then they were hoping that from the objection they'd be able to say that they are memo was being suppressed by Trump. But did the Republicans in the House. Did the Republicans in this House committee any say it was? Okay?

They must have, right, unless it wouldn't have made it out of the committee, because basically they said, we're not falling into the trap here. Okay, sure, fine, put it out, and then they put it on the President in the FBI and the Justice Department to object to it. Now that makes sense, okay, Yeah, So it was kind of a poison pill situation, which I'd assume was the case. Yep, do you think it's gonna come out? Uh? Not in the form that they the Democrats want to put it

out in. But you know, as the Republicans of the Committee, including Noon Has say, uh, they sure hope it comes out because they think it will show what what complete nonsense it is, that it doesn't really have anything to do with the main issue, which is did they use the dossier to get a warrant? And did they corroborate it? And on those issues, I don't think the Democrats are gonna help themselves much with this letter. Any what's your

next piece gonna be working? Folks go to find it. Well, I'm working on something with respect to Susan Rice's mysterious email that we learned about the last couple of days, and um tomorrow and nash review dot com everybody, and he just real quick, do you think it's shady? Because I think it's shady, it's sad, yes, and he agrees it's shady. Now I feel I've been saying all week you don't write yourself by the book twice in an email your last day on the job unless there's been

some not by the book stuff. So I feel very confident now that you're on the same year, on the same train as I am on that one. Andy McCarthy, everybody, the one and only follow him on Twitter check out his stuff on Nasha review dot com and you thank you so much for making the time. Alright, team, we're gonna roll into a quick break. We'll be right back. Hey, team, I wanted to flag a story for you that has

got some really interesting dynamics at work. It's by Adam Crado, who is a senior writer over at the Washington Free Beacon. Here's the headline, cutterback spy operation on US Jews puts Al Jazeera in congressional crosshairs. Quite a title and quite a story. We have the author with us right now, Mr Adam Crado. Good to have you back, sir, Thanks for having me. I appreciate it. Buddy. All right, you got you gotta tell us. We're workers through some of

the details and then we'll get into the implications. But what is going on here? This is quite This is quite a tale. It really is quite a tale, and it's um one of these truth is stranger than fiction type tales. We have Al Jazeera, which of course everybody knows is a state funded news organization. The Qatari government UH funds Al Jazeera and necessarily Al Jazira tows their line and one of their pet projects for quite some

time has been UH anti Israel documentary. So what Al Jazira did very quietly about last year, and we're just kind of finding out the details now, is that they hired a molar too and sent them into Washington, d C. To essentially the infiltrate pros Rael organizations and UH try to find pro Israel officials supporters in compromising positions. Now, look, really what they found is not all that shocking. That pro Israel people want to stop boycotts of Israel, they

want to combat anti Semitism. But it seems that what they've done here that you know, when you record somebody through a peepole camera, everything starts to look kind of sexy. And Alta's area has begun sending letters now to a lot of these organizations telling ram, well, we've got you

on videotape. We need you to respond to these allegations that there is Jowish influence in the US government, that pro Israel Jews in America are working on behalf of the Israeli government um to stop boycotts of Israel, all these kinds of lines, and what we're seeing now is that this is can amount to cutter a foreign government running a spy operation on American soil, targeting US Jews. Let's not lie. That's what this is. This is not

a news outlet doing an investigation. This is a propaganda network. This is a state run network operating at the instruction of the government. So this is actually causing quite a bit of trouble for Al Jazeera now that there is a push Incongress to get Al Jazeera to register as a foreign agent, which is what it is under Farah,

the Foreign Agents Registration acted. This would really put them in line with our art is now under FARA right in the last twelve months, I believe exactly what I was going to see, exactly what I was gonna say. Ye RTI, the Russian UH funded propaganda network is forced recently to register under FARAH, the chi comm newspapers, the communist propaganda registers. As such, there's no reason that Al Jazeera should not be put in the same category, especially

after they're spying on American juins. This is astonishing. We're talking about Adam Crado of the Washington Free Beacon about this. It seems to me that the most likely way they would have approached this, Adam, is that these Al Jazeera journalists, so under the cloak of being investigative journalists are effectively doing oppo research and spying on American Jews. Right, That's that that would be how I actually that's how they've

presented this, right, yeah, yeah, precisely. I mean last year I caught wind of it actually kind of when it was taking place in others, just because I tend to circulate and report on these communities. But apparently there was at least one mall that was all around town secretly recording people, uh infiltrating under false aliases and names into pros and out organizations, and um, it looks like they entangled quite a few people. In my my gut instinct,

um is I suspect they don't have that much. I mean, they can spend this. It's you know, conspiracies with Jews and government are always kind of sexy for the anti Semitic conspiracy theorists, But my my gut tells me they probably don't have much of it. They've really stepped in it year because is exposed to themselves as operating on behalf of the anti Semitic Tatari government, which as you know, fund much and brotherhood of a moss Front exporter of

Taylor financing all these types of things. You also have the main story up right now on the Washington Freebeacon website, Iran back terror group claims half a million missiles aimed at Israel. I was updating folks yesterday on the drone that was shot down over Israeli airspace, and also just the general situation of Syria right now, which is a is a mess. Despite the losses, Isis has sustained what's going on with with Hezbollah, what's going on with Iran

and the half a million missiles. Yeah, you know, I tried to tell um people quite often whenever I get really the chance and they ask me for my take on national security and funning policy in these types of things.

I think this is really the biggest untold story in the Middle East right now that, as one person put it to me, under the cloud of war, are under the fog of war that's going on in Syrie, and yet in all these other places, Iran has really been able to secretly and UH covertly UH move advanced missiles

into the region. They've got weapons of workshops on the border with Israel in uh hamas control territory and on the northern border where his Bolla operates, between Syria and Lebanon, they've been able to stockpile at least seventy thousand new missiles. This is on top of about a hundred and fifty thousand others, and they say within the next year they'll be able to amass about half a million advanced missiles

on Israel's border. And this is really part of an Iranian strategy of bombardment that um, if they are to get in any sort of direct conflict with Israel, they can blow the whistle and their terry proxy groups like his Bola and others will come in and barage Israel. It's a frightening situation. I'm really not sure what the Israeli government does. Uh. I would advocate preemptive bombing here

the destroyed these cashes, but that that itself. I have to say, I was somewhat surprised that Israeli air strikes inside Syria targeting both Syrian and Iranian and people don't

understand that they're actually Iranian installations now in Syria. It's not just like a handful of Iranians who are providing assistance or you know, there's there's that that Syria effectively has become an Iranian launch powder and Iranian forward operating base for operations against Israel got very little attention from much of the media. I mean, they're shooting down what they believe could be a in Iranian knockoff of the

Stealth drone, the Sentinel drone. That's what the Idea was reporting that the US lost to Iran back in twleven. The Iranians are flying that in Israeli airspace. They have to shoot it down, I think with an Apache helicopter. Three attempts to shoot it down originally failed, and barely a peep about it here in the media. Adam, what's going on? Look at surprise, it gets easy to ignore.

These stones are out of his convenient stories about um at least from a foreign policy and angld Russia's involvement in Seria much sexier given the domestic coverage here in the United States. But I've actually been learning about this for quite some time that the real untold story is what's happening on Israel's northern border with Um. Hens Baula, the former recently resigned Prime Minister from Lebanon, when he was leaving and fleeing to Saudi Arabia said, I can't

learn this country. It's completely controlled by his Bola and Iranian agents. It's impossible. Yet, um, the Trump administration actually, quite shockingly and disappointingly continues to provide arms to the Lebanese armed forces, which really is just the fact of his Bola. So there there's a very complicated and similaring situation that is only getting worse on Israel's northern border.

And I really see no other ways for this to end except in war unless the Trump administration, in certain news rallies take some steps now literally down we should have done it months and months, if not years ago, but steps immediately to kind of mitigate it. Adam Crado is a senior writer at the Washington Free Beacon. You can read his latest on national security and everything else they're covering over there at Free Beacon dot com. Adam, uh,

some really great reporting. Thank you so much for joining us. We appreciate it. Thank you. I'm always my pleasure. Alright, seem we are going to roll into a break here. When I come back, we will get into a bit of maybe some roll call some Valentine's talk we've gotta been a been a heavy day, and I think we can take a breather here at the end to think about some more pleasant and happier times. So we'll be back in just a few Well, team, that's gonna be

it today in the Freedom Hunt. Gonna be closing out the show here in just a couple of minutes. First, Uh, you know, I sent Mrs Molly some flowers in her office today, and I just want to say, I hope all of you have a a good Valentine's Day. It's been a very it's been a very tough day in

the news cycle, tough day for the country. But you still need to go home and kiss and hug your loved ones, and you have your own private or you know, your own version of a of a Valentine's Day, if in fact, you even in general, think that Valentine's Day is something that we should all give into. I sit here and I'm like, you know, why is it that we have to send chocolates and flowers and all this stuff. It strikes me as a little bit more commercial, uh

commercial than I would like to commit to. Right It's but you know that again, the same thing with with ring buying from what I understand. You know, you got to learn about the Four Seas, and you gotta. I don't worry. She doesn't listen to the radio show, so she's not gonna get tipped off with anything. I am just your Valentine's Day. It's fine, all right. Look, if you're just sending flowers, it's fine. I get it. Um. No one really spends much time commemorating the martyrdom of St. Valentine.

He was a Roman priest, was beheaded in the third century. Um. But there's a lot of back and forth on what the the true history of St. Valentine is. Today is also ash Wednesday, as you know. So there's just there's a lot a lot going on on the calendar. So I thought I would just get into a bit of a bit of roll call, because let's do that wet oh no, whoa hey, crying chop, We'll take that team buck.

It's time for roll call, So let's get it going. Sorry, first we've got t J who writes in he sent me a stand with Rand from Rand pack dot com. Rand Paul, this is about and he said, did Rand ask your permission to use this? Well, t J. Rand did not, but I give full permission. But I think stand with Rand is obvious enough that I can't pretend to to copyright that one. Greg has one for me next on the roll call here, Well, question for you

and maybe discussion on your show sometime. Do your viewers think if Trump were not elected but someone like Jeff Bush or Marker Rubio or whoever we're elected president, that we would have the economy going like we do now or even better? Do they think we'd be seeing the uncovering of the corruption and the takedown of the deep state like we're witnessing. Thanks from Greg. You know, Greg, it's a very interesting question, and it's one for which

there can't be a definitive answer. Right. We know that there's there's nothing that we can do to prove what did not. We can't prove a historical negative. We can prove what would have been had another Republican been able to defeat Hillary Clinton. I will say this, tax cuts, such as they have been pushed forward by the GOP thus far, that's pretty mainstream, pretty standard go Op stuff.

That's not it's not really anything that's uh shaking things, shaking things up too much, you know, it's not really changing things up from what we would expect from the GOP. And I think the tax cuts are pretty much right in the center of the Republican parties mantra. So you got that as where whether we there be other things going on, I don't know, you know, whether other things necessarily would be different, better, the same tough to say.

I I mean, you certainly wouldn't have the media operating like it does right now. So yeah, I just I think that the the part of this that's definitely different is the way that Trump has exposed the media and the the true depths. Look, we know, we've known that the media is biased for a very long time now.

I grew up in an environment where because of the Internet and talk radio, there was finally a CounterPunch and there was a counter argument that was out there, and the rise of Fox News to become the number one cable network. But you know, you knew the media was Democrat was left. You didn't know that they were hysterical about it. You didn't know that they were unable to keep their grip on reality when you would have a new kind of president and new presidency where their power

no longer was what they thought it was. So that's something that I think is very very different about the Trump administration from what you would have seen in any other administration. And then we could also we could continue this could be an all night discussion. How is Trump different from how other presidents would have been? Uh, name name something. Really, there's a lot of stuff that is

different about Trump. But I'm one of the first. Oh I'm not the first to say this, but I'm I'm free in admitting that he has exceeded my expectations so far. And I've thinking he's doing a really, really good job. And I just also do love what so many others saw early on, and uh, that is that Trump was going to be the greatest irritant to the American left, certainly since Reagan. I mean, nothing bothers them as much

as Trump. And that's that's worth a lot. There's there's a currency to that, there's value to that, all right. Next one, we have Bob, who writes its been a while since I saw a movie in theater. I saw one on Tuesday, twelve Strong. Highly recommend for Team Buck Shields high. Thank you, Bob. I want to see twelve

Strong too. I tend not to say that I'm going to see something in the theater, because it's usually it's not that I am intentionally lying about it, but I find myself saying, oh, wait till it's on demand, and I'll wait till I can buy it and watch it at home. My couch is very large, very comfortable. It's not not not much to look at, but man, I mean it could. It could comfortably sleep to maybe three, and the couch is just a sanctuary. I've got a big flat screen on the wall, and it's just there's

no movie theater that I can compare. I just don't know what else to say. I wish, I wish I was somebody that still got excited about like standing in a ticket line and paying eight dollars for a bunch of popcorn. And Nope, I'm I'm a watch it at home guy now and and increasingly I really I Some people I know watch cable so that they have sports, live sports. That's the big advantage of that's the big draw for them. I basically watched now on demand stuff,

and then I watched news for on the cable. That's it that I don't. I don't really watch cable TV other than that. So you know, my my habits have been changing with us over time. I remember going to the movies, my brothers, my dad, my mom, you know, my sister. Back in the day, we'd all we'd all go see movies as a family. Now, I think if the six of us were all adults now, but if the six of us tried to go see a movie in New York City, I'm just realizing this is crazy.

I think about it would cost a hundred bucks. It would cost a hundred dollars for us to see a movie in New York. Tickets for movies here are like seventeen or eighteen dollars, and there's six of us, and then you know, I had a little popcorn and some soda and you're at a hundred dollars to see a movie. That is just when you can own it or or you can download it and watch it at home for like seven usually maybe ten something like that. So I but I will see the The twelve Strong because that's

a very important story. I want to check it out. Amy next next one app here on Keep One to see Team Buck speaks on Roll Call, Hey Buck Shields high question. Remember when the Obama is ration Surverill reporters like Rosen and his parents. Whatever happened with this, How does this time to surveillance of Trump, of the Trump campaign? How rampant was this surveillance abuse? What does it say about corruption the FBI? Well, Amy, it's uh, it's kind

of complicated. It's very different. It wasn't a FISA warrant with Rosen. It was just a typical criminal warrant. What they did was they they broke an unspoken agreement with the media that they won't use criminal proceedings against journalists to find the leakers. The administration said, you know what, We're gonna find the leaker, and we're gonna do that

by going after journalists records. And I know that's what they did with the Associated Press, and I believe that's what they did with Rosen as well, though I'd have to familiarize myself with that case. Again. That's gonna be it for today in the Hut. My friends, please do check out bucks Extion dot com. Also follow me on Facebook at Facebook dot com slash buck sexon. I post there throughout the day. It's also where you can write me messages. Until next time, my friends, Shields High