High Stakes Poker

That's eight four four nine hundred to eight to five The Future of talk radio. Buck Sexton, Welcome to The Buck Sexton Show. Everybody, coming to you live from Savannah, Georgia. Thank you so much for hanging out with me today. We've got a freestyle Friday in effect, and I have a lot of news to talk to you about. We're gonna deep dive into what's going on with the UH the tremendous announcement we had live for you on the show last night about North Korea negotiations, negotiations over North

Korea's nuclear program. But we also have some information that just I'm trying to see when this broke to make sure I don't Yeah, just in the last few hours that Trump not content to look just at the issue of global trade and tariffs and take on China for its manipulations of currency and markets, but also UH to add North Korea into the mix. And then today Trump lawyers, according to the Wall Street Journal, are seeking a deal with Muller to get the Russia probe to finally finish up.

This is high stakes poker, my friends. This is big. I mean, this is the president of the United States who is going against all the conventional wisdom on trade right now, and it's like, this is how it's gonna be. Who is perhaps going to negotiate one of the most important and momentous national security diplomatic UH detons in decades with North Korea. We'll see, We'll see early. I know, I'm not. I'm not. We don't celebrate too early here

in the Hut. One of our maxims. Don't celebrate too early. You know, you never want to be the guy gets tackled on the two yard line when you think you're gonna when you think you're in the end zone. No no, no, um. But then on top of that, Trump is willing to deal on the issue of his own presidency. I mean to put the presidents eat a sense at stake by saying, you know what, I'll sit down with Mueller. I've got nothing to hide, I'm not scared. Bring it Mueller. Wow.

Assuming this is true and this is gonna happen, Uh, this is Trump really just calling out all of yes, I'll say, at the haters, the doubters, the underminers. Not sure that's really a thing, but we could, we could make that a word. I love how with the internet these days, you just start using a word enough and it becomes a word. They add it. So, you know, the the undermining of Trump by all these different individuals if he sits down with Mueller, which I will note

I think is a very bad idea and precarious. But then again, what do we what do we see from Trump time and again people are like, oh, that's such a bad idea, and and then he does it, and then all of a sudden they go, you know what, that wasn't that actually wasn't a bad idea. And today, for example, we've had Democrats talking about how bad add the tax cuts were. I mean, Nancy Pelosi was acting like the tax cuts were the were the equivalent of, uh, some sort of war on the poor. I mean, it

was just nonsense coming from her. And then today we see that the jobs are up for for the month of February. Jobs are thousand, folks. You've got over a hundred and fifty five million people employing the country right now, and manufacturing has added two hundred and sixty three thousand jobs since Trump took office. The Dow was up today four hundred and forty one points. What happened to Oh, China, the trade, it's gonna it's all gonna fall apart, tax cuts,

It's terrible. He goes with what he thinks is right, and then we see what the results are on Mueller. Look, I understand the risks here, and I've been saying all along. Mueller likes to get people for minor and frac actions, and he has a long history of doing this. And he may decide that he's going to stare down Trump on this one. But you know what Trump is like, bring it, he will see. He sounds like he's willing to sit down with Mueller himself, and despite all of

the legal evidence to the contrary, he does not care. Um. He's decided that he is going to sit down and have his say if this Russia nonsense will come to an end at some point if the Mueller pro will agree at least that the Trump portion of this has to stop at some point. Oh my gosh, this is

going to drive Democrats insane. But once again we see the negotiator at work here, because if in fact they are meeting the Democrats, the Trump opposition all about just getting to the truth of this, that the President would sit down and speak the special counsel himself, that's something they really want, right They've They've been assuming, I'm not gonna lie to you. I've been assuming that Trump would

never do that. If he does it, and if there's nothing there and then Mueller has to wrap it up within sixty or ninety days or whatever the agreement would be. Is that is this a bargain that the Democrats that the Atom ships and the Polo Seas and the Schumers, we're you know, will they take this one? New York Times, Washington Post, all these media outlets that are completely invested in the implosion of this presidency the end of this presidency?

Are they going to advocate for against us? Do they want the truth or do they want an endless They want an endless investigation that just grinds on, and that's the purpose of it. The process is the punishment. I think we all know that they do want the process to be the punishment. But are they willing to make a trade one one chance to get the president in

legal jeopardy? You notice notice how Trump is forcing their hand here just in the responses to this offer, which has been floated to the Wall Street Journal here and is the main story on on the Drudge Report as I'm on air. Just that he's put it out there will expose some of those who as, oh no, no, the Mueller probe it has to just keep going on and on and on. Oh no, he'll be done when he's done. Well, is this about finding out if the

president included with Russia? Or is this about a special counsel that just exists to exist and has really just become a machine of petty prosecutions for the gratification and amusement of scorned Hillary voters. That's what the Mueller Special prosecut You should our special council is all about. This is what makes Democrats feel happy, safe and warm at night that Mueller's out there, uh, bringing felony charges bankrupting people.

I'm one who likes to remind everyone of this. It's this is not without real pain and cost, even for those who are completely innocent of any wrongdoing, including process crimes. I gotta sell your house, gotta empty at your bank account, tens of thousands of dollars to have legal representation for just one of these hearings. Think about if it dragged on for months, so this would be this would be

quite a showdown. Trump v. Mueller. And you know why Trump is willing to do what I think because he's just if he does it, well, I'm still concerned because what happens if Mueller then says that the president has has lied under oath or in this case, we line to federal investigators. And what if Trump says, no, I didn't. You want to talk about a constitutional crisis? Folks? How does that play out? And can the president even be

guilty of obstruction? People that I know in respect in this area of constitutional jurisprudence say no, no, he cannot. So what the heck is going on? There? Is this just a political exercise. We will have to wait and see. But what a week look at what this president has piled onto his plate tariffs. That's which is really about staring down China nuclear negotiations, which is about staring down

Kim Jong un North Korea. And and he's literally gonna stare down Kim Jong I mean, they're gonna be sitting across the room from each other and then staring down the mollre probe. You know, it starts to make more sense when we think back to the earliest days. And you know, one of the things that I try to do differently than a lot of other people who do radio, which is I I do as much work in research as I can to know as much as I can, so when I'm on there, I am never wasting your time, right,

That is an absolute goal that I have. But I also know that I don't know everything. I learned so much from all of you who listened to this show, and I try to be I try to maintain a degree of humility and knowing that sometimes they're wrong. Sometimes I don't know things and sometimes I didn't see things coming. And I remind myself of that because I think it makes me a better analyst going forward. I remind myself because I want to bring the best that I can

to you. Every single night here on this show. And that means being uh self critical one necessary. It means holding myself to account, and it means having a memory of what I've said and what I've believed to be true or what I've put forward here on the show. And when I start to think back to the early days of this whole Trump phenomenon, it's not even enough to call it a wave. I mean, it is a phenomenon,

and it's still truly hard to believe. Hard to believe is a phrase that people throw around for all kinds of things, but this is still hard to believe. There are days that I wake up and I said, Trump is president. And I don't say it in a negative way, I just saying, and it's hard to believe, given what we were told in the Hillary apparatus and a lot of you listening to this show. And I know this because you called and you wrote, and you told me

very early on you saw it coming. But I think back to those early days, those early moments of this uh this Trump phenomenon, and I remind myself, or I remind myself and think back to how it all seemed so impossible and improbable, and yet he told us all along, what was what was happening, what was going to happen. There was almost a surree little confidence that Donald Trump had in his run for the presidency. It felt like

it could not be real. But then when you would go back and hear what he said and hear what his plans were, you think, well, this is and now that he's presidency, well this has been the plan all along. This is what he's been saying all along, right, And I try to remind myself of that, because we have a president who said that he would drain the swamp, he said he would build a wall, he said he would be He promised to be a disruptor, to be different.

And what was unique about him and separated him from the other I can't remember I was at sixteen seventeen candidates, was that he wasn't going to do it the way that everybody else did. He wasn't going to listen to the conventional wisdom. He didn't decide that he would just sit down in a room, and whoever seemed the smartest at that point in time would be the person who was basically making the decisions as commander in chief to be disruptive means you have to change what is in repetition,

should you have to change what is expected? And that is what Trump is doing. He is fulfilling promises by breaking with the traditional way of doing things. Is he right on all of them? I don't know. But do I think that he's earned the right to at least have our patience and good faith with some of these maneuvers. Absolutely? Absolutely.

If I've learned anything from trying to analyze and understand the Trump way in politics, to understand the Trump world order that we are in now, it's don't underestimate this guy and don't think you know better than he does. China, there you go, Thank you. North Korea now, Mueller, it's quite a week. Quite a week. I want to get more into the aftermath of that. North Korea is uh, come out up here in just a few minutes. And also, oh wait, it's Friday, so John, you know what that means?

Hit it action movie. People keep asking if I'm back, and I haven't really had an answer, but now yeah, I'm taking on back. Quote you ever like to be dead? Friday's Friday? Don't kung food? I know, kung food eight four four to five. Buck your thoughts on any of these huge hot topics or action movie quotes, were recipes for the best possible hush puppies or Jambalaya, any of the above. Colin, let me know. We'll talk be right back. Well,

it's a deflection. Of course, it's a deflection. Willie comes Stormy, Well, yes, of course, Stormy, So tearriffs and North Korea, all the distract from a president that didn't go through the proper channels are used the proper interagency processes once to change the headlines from Stormy Daniel what it is? I mean, Joe Scarborough should really stick to his favorite pastimes shouting at maids and limo drivers. You know, not good analysis from this guy at all. He really thinks that this

is all the distract from Stormy Daniels. Nobody cares. I have yet to meet a person that cares about the Stormy Daniels thing, whether they believe it or not. I just haven't met anybody who was focused on that when when we're talking about trade with China North Korea, this is about trying to stop a nuclear war from happening. And no matter how much you think Trump has his flaws or whatever, I think that he takes that seriously. Scarborough. Wow,

that guy amazing. They gave him a show over at MSNBC. I think that for uh, you know, for a certain kind of republic in you know, they they identify with Scarborough because they're like, yeah, I always want to look like I just came off the beach from Nantucket too, and I don't have to really read or know anything. But if I just sound like the guy who sits at the cool table in high school, then people will believe me. There's that and on you hat Acosta as well.

We're gonna get into some of the haters everybody, and then I'll talk to you about the real analysis. Michael Oslon will be joining us from the Hoover Institution. I will say this because I actually have a background in national security analysis. As you know, uh, I know who knows their stuff. And the people that come on this show, particularly in the realm of any anything national security or security related. You know, they aren't guys like Andy McCarthy,

Gordon Chang, Michael Ostlin. These are people who are at the top. There are people who when they speak about these issues, they you know, they share a lot of important insights and give a tremendous drawn, a tremendous depth of information. So Michael will be joining us later to talk about what's going on here with this North Korean negotiation. I'll give you my take on it as well. But you don't need me to tell you. Don't but I'm

gonna tell you anything. It's fun. Don't let Joe Scarborough. Yeah, don't let him shout at you like he shouts at bus boys where they don't bring him his ship is fast enough. Uh, you know, and don't listen to Jim Acosta either. Clip eight play it, clip eight play it. We were hearing from senior administration officials, uh, that that they were basically cautioning the president against this, that this

was not going to be their recommendation. But Trump being Trump, Uh, it is not unusual for him to defy his advisors and decide to go with a bold move like this. The potential ramifications, all all this. You know, we can't overstate. Obviously, this is not reality television. This is not The Apprentice. When the President United States decides to me with Kim

Jong un about denuclearizing North Korea, this is deadly serious. Yeah, we know, we we don't need you to tell us there, chief White House pundit for CNN that this is not the Apprentice. But thanks for that, Thanks for that. Oh gosh, it's really amazing, isn't it. Um. We'll get into it's more of the North Korea stuff in just a second. Here what it means why the left is obviously so deeply committed to making it seem like this is a

huge mistake. Can you imagine if Trump is by the way, if I think about if he runs the table this week and he's he happens to be somewhat even a little bit right on the China tariff's issue, and then on North Korea and Mueller, just an extraordinary evening and of course opening the door to the big question President Trump can truly solve this problem, that would be going down as a great president. And there's no way around that.

That is the reality here. Somebody pull over the we ambulence, you can tell, you can tell they really so we are. We're actually in a discussion, your folks, about a pathway to avoiding a military strike that could result in catastrophic life. Right, that's what the serious people, That's what you and I are thinking about here, And how can Trump, How can

this administration achieve that? Meanwhile, in some of the Democrat corridors of society, the left wing progressive types, uh, their biggest concern is that if Trump pulls this off, then it will be so clear that one they've been wrong about him all along, but particularly the issue of national security, he will be as Aaron Burnet just said, they're a great president, and she said it almost like it was an admission of some calamity that would be followed it.

I mean, it's like so sad, like if Trump stops this terrible situation in North Korea, like what's gonna happen to America? Because then he'll be a great presidents like exactly ex Actually, he'll be a great president. Yes he is. He I think he's going to be. Yeah, there's there's

some rough edges here and there, there's some stuff. But you know, maybe part of the problem is that in the past we have put so much stock on the president sounds, presidential, comes across as presidential all that that we lost sight of, well, what really affects you and me and what really affects the world around us. And I think that that's going to be a big difference we shall see with Trump. But yeah, that's it actually reminds me of what was going on with some Democrats

in Congress, and this was I saw this firsthand. There were some Democrats in Congress during the surge, which I know many people listening to this show right now we're a part of and thank you for your service. And I know that the Iraqi people also thank you for

saving their country from descending into the seventh circle of hell. Uh. But during the surge there were Democrats who could barely high there uh agitation with the fact that the Bush administration plan to surge troops into Iraq to stabilize the country and to fight counterinsurgency the way that it is supposed to be fought, that it was working, which meant less violence against the Iraqi people. There was a drop in violence. That's how you know it's working, and also

less casualties for US troops because it was working. And I'm talking when you were evaluating, you know, after a period of months. And there were some people have yelled at me for saying this. I do not care because I was there. I saw it. I remember, and there were some Democrats who I'm not saying they were rooting. They weren't thinking in their heads. And these are as

a congress, some very well known ones. I'm not saying they were thinking out loud or saying out loud, oh you know, it's a bad thing that we're seeing us less violence in Iraq. But they were thinking, darn it. Trump's whole thing here, this whole gamble. Remember it was like they said, he was gambling his presidency on it. It's working. And you sense that same, that same idea here with some of these media folks and some of these Democrats, as Trump may have it may being the

operative word, have set in motion the biggest diplomatic victory. Well, we'll have to see. Like I said, no, and I keep saying it, don't celebrate really very important thing to do. We don't. We don't spike the football until it's time, and then we spike it hard. But just to give you a little reminder what it was like here, this is what the media was saying before the announcements. We we pulled together a representative montage. We need a montage.

I haven't watched Team American a while. Great film. See it's it's so great. I won't even clote a movie it's a film. Uh North Korea, North Korea. Here we go it this clip one. That is what they were saying before the meeting that Trump announced yesterday. This is what they were sounding like when it came at Trump and foreign policy in North Korea. Play one. Tweets like this,

essentially poor gasoline on that blaze. President Trump is goading Kim Jong un to testament, I do worry about what his boiling point might be in the face of some of these, uh, inflammatory tweets and statements at the present makes this It's just how the snowball effects starts. It's very easy to get into and quickly. None of this normal, None of this acceptable, None of this frankly stable behavior. None of this is normal. Um, that's what they were

saying about it. But I should have just read the montage myself, as you could tell there. I'm sorry if I talked over some of that, but gosh, it is. It is pretty made. It's christoff from the New York Times. If you speak like this and then everyone thinks you're so much smarter than they are. If you think that that doesn't sound like Nicholas Kristof, go listen to some Nicholas Kristof you like Buck, You're amazing. You've got the Irish gift of mimicry. Hey, lad um. Anyway, this is

what they're saying now. So that was beforehand, right, that was with the tweets. And he's going and Kim Jong own into a ward. Oh my god, it's gonna be terrible. And and here's what they were saying once the announcement was made, to have our own madman who could potentially blow up the world. Trump. Yeah, I was thinking of Trump when I said that all of the summits are dangerous. Any president could have sat down with Kim or his father. Why has no suiting American president ever met with a

leader from North Korea? Should I take that to mean that this might be a particularly risky or even an unwise move. All of the rhetoric and the insults, the taunts, the nuclear button mind is bigger than yours, all of that which has been a real crisis, even those who really were yearning for talks. I think that this is conferring legitimacy on Kim Jong. Oh. I know it gives me a headache. Two, But here we are dealing with

it together on the I think this is important. On the Rachel matt Out point about and look like I always do say, I call balls and strikes credit words, matt I was smart. Don't underst me, Mattow. She just panders, but she's smart. There are some left wingers that you'll see on TV. They're just they're just dumb as dirt. But for whatever you know, they are on TV because of any number of reasons. We can talk about another time.

Matt I was smart, but panders and is disingenuous with many of the things she says to that audience because she's looking for ratings and actually her ratings beaten CNN by a lot. That tells you something by a lot by like Miles and Miles. Uh. But to her point about no previous presidents done that, and she's very snarky about it. She's like, Oh, I'm just gonna be snarky about this. I wonder write no other president has done this. Well, First of all, there have only been three presidents that

have really before the Trump administration. Before President Trump, I've really even had to reckon with the possibility of a nuclear North Korea, never mind an actual North Korea. Right, So you've got the Bush administration trying to negotiate their way through it with Kim Jong Ill, Manteline I'm sorry.

Back before that, the Clinton administration trying to negotiate with Kim Jong Ill and Maddelin Madeline Albright running point on that didn't work out, big, big failure, massive fail as the kids say, thumbs down, as the old millennials like me would say, um. And then you had the Bush administration, which, as much as I know, we find many things about President Bush to be admirable, and also on North Korea, massive fail They did not. Now, they had some policies

that were right. I'm not saying that it's it was all for nought. They had very smart people, think about it. The Clinton people had smart people trying to handle this. I mean, I think Madeline Albright was way overrated for a bunch of reasons. But you know that there were there were there were people that were looking at this in sanctions and these are the right moves. But if the point of that was to stop North Korea from

advancing its missile and nuclear programs, that is they were failures. Okay, So Clinton failed, Bush one failed, Obama failed, I'm sorry. Bush two failed. Obama failed. So you look back at this now and you say to yourself, Okay, you've only had a few presidents that have even had to think about a nuclear North Korea. So I mean to compare it to like, wow, look at Jimmy Carter North Korea.

That's irrelevant, okay, because the reason that we can't ignore this is the possibility of the complete emmolation of a city. That's not something you can just write off. That's not something you can say, you know what, We're just gonna figure out this problem is some other time. No, And that's why there's been an urgency to this, and we are working on a timetable. We are working on a

clock here. And so we keep being told by both sides of the political aisle that they're getting North Koreas getting closer and closer to definitively I don't even know if we know what they have quite honestly, right, I mean, you know there's that, but to definitively have an i CBM that is nuclear tip, that is nuclear cable that could hit anywhere in the continental United States, and then they'll try to get more of those missiles, a missile

threat that could defeat our countermeasures, and then you're relying entirely on to terrens and we're hoping that North Korea is not crazy enough to try something. We all know that we're running out of room or running out of road here to work with. And the Trump administration is looking at this and saying, well, what's been tried in the past. This is and this brings us back to the matt Out point there, the snarky well, why did

ever a president not doing this? Because every president has failed thus far to actually stop the program, never mind you to eradicate the nuclear program in North Crere. I just mean to stop it for a considerable period of time, and to stop the missile program and to get compliance, meaningful compliance with the career. Whe they've done in the past is pretending to negotiate and then just you know, psych I mean, it is Lucy with the football, my friends. It is just a total all the whole thing, a

total scam. Oh yeah, all of our agreements, we we renounced those. Sorry, thanks for all the food aid though, suckers. That's what they're saying to the international community. So um, that's what I think we have to keep in mind. If we're gonna be judging the Trump administration's ability here or Trump Administration's decision making to go forward with this. It's different, but you need something different. This brings you back to the very beginning of the show. Disruptive, a

change from the norm, outside of what is expected. Isn't that what Trump promised? And isn't that the reason that he is president right now? If we wanted somebody who was going to do what the panels of analysts that you know, ABC and CNN and etcetera, etcetera wanted him to do, wouldn't it what I mean? And assuming it's a Republican you know, we we could have had Kasik yikes, But there you go. We could have done that, but

we didn't, did we. We've got a president that takes a different approach, that doesn't care what the consensus opinion is. He cares what he thinks the right move is on these issues, and he's going with it. And I think that we should see what happens. Let him play it out. I mean, he's going to eight four four to five eight four four, buck, we will hit a quick break and we'll be right back. Cavalier threats to start a

war are dangerous and shortsighted. I am worried about some of the recent actions from the new administration that seemed to raise tensions. Our allies are now expressing concerns about America's credibility and reliability. And by the way, picking fights with Kim Jong un just puts a smile on his face. Wow. Actually, we do not need to hear from Hillary. I want to note what was Hillary's to take us back to

another time that we will all remember quite well. Hillary was Secretary of State for what four years something like that. What was her big accomplishment as America's chief different in those four years, other than flying all over the world establishing foreign contacts so that there be even more people able to buy influence that she was peddling via the Clinton Foundation, what what did she really? What did she accomplish?

In fact, I recall when asked some of her State Department spokespersons drew a blank, and I thought it was very unfair that those spokespersons were criticized at the time for drawing a blank on Hiller's accomplishments. It was an air fault. Hillary had no accomplishments. Right, There's nothing you can do about that. That was just the truth. In fact, the silence was the ultimate truth when it came to Hillary's ability to get deals done as America's chief diplomat

under the Obama administration. And don't even get me started on BEng Ghazi. And we'll just talk about that for the rest of the show. Uh. And then there are others from the Obama ainistration that have come out of the woodwork to criticize this, including h MSNBC's Evelyn Farcas

play clip three. And if what they really will be satisfied with is respect and normalization, great, we can give that to them, but we have to maintain the pressure because remember what got them to the table, the sanctions and unfortunately, probably some of the bluster coming out of the White House. WHOA, look at that. Look at that. She's admitting it, folks. She's like, ah, it's just like so upsetting. But like Trump was, maybe maybe Trump's like

an evil genius. I know, I know it makes them sad, that makes them very sad. But I give her credit miss Farcas for admitting that, in fact, Trump's approach here, while breaking with the foreign policy orthodoxy, was in fact perhaps just a little just a little bit, a little bit, a little bit of the fuel to get this whole

thing going. You know, when you have a regime that is, in fact, in a sense, a necrocracy, it is ruled by the dead because Kim Jong UN's grandfather, Kim Il sung, is still considered the the father of the state, and it's still really the North Korean command or in chief in a sense, not not really, but in North Korean h propaganda, Um, he's still officially the the supreme leader.

And when you're dealing with that, and you have someone who is the leader of the free world who is finally willing to push back on that, you know, everyone right now is assuming that Kim Jung un is just

trying to play us. But what if there was a realization that they couldn't keep the propaganda going, if they kept this if it was you know, Kim Jong un standing up to the world, staying up to America all the time, and doing so fearlessly, and you know, if you've ever seen North Korean propaganda, it's its own whole area of study. Uh. But what if it made the regime look weak that somebody was willing to say things like Kim Jong un is a little punk and we're

not going to stand for this anymore. That's a form of pressure in and of itself. Right, It had been the traditional conventional wisdom that you can't you can't talk tough to Kim John don You have to say things like the the international community will come together and in bonds of in bonds of trust and legality to slowly eliminate the rogue behavior. No, no, no, Trump is just like, no, we're not standing for anymore. This guy's a punk and a coward, and he's gonna get it if he doesn't

watch it. And sure enough, now they want to talk. So maybe it's maybe it is all a head fake. But I gotta say, you start adding up the the data points here, and it looks like maybe as ms fark Is just admitted it was some of Trump's bluster, I know. Good stuff. Welcome to our two of the Buck Sexton Show. Thank you so much for being here. I've got news talk to you about. As I said, we are doing a bit of a deep dive into the talks that Trump is gonna have with Kim Jong

un of North Korea later this hour coming up. Actually just at the bottom of the hour, so right around UH well, and just a little bit, we'll have Michael Oslin joining us of the Hoover Institution. He is an excellent UH security policy analyst on all East Asia issues. You'll want to hear what he has to say about where this is all going and what it means. And and then the third hour today we'll get into some stuff that comes to mind talking about my Savannah trip.

I'm down here in Savannah, Georgia, broadcasting live from our I Heart affiliate, So we are gonna be talking about that. But first I've got to give you just some updates here on a on a breaking news story that a veterans home in California is on lockdown, the reports of shots fired and an our man uh taking three hostages according to Fox News here during active shoot shooter situation at a California veterans home in Yunville, California, at the

young Ville Veterans Home. I do not have any additional information right now. Then SWAT is on the scene and they are trying to deal with what they what is a hostile situation right now. If we get any more breaking news on this one, I'll bring you up to speed. I don't have any word on casualties. Obviously, active shooter situation puts everyone on edge. It always puts everyone on edge, and that this involves one of the um larger veterans homes.

It's got veterans who more than a thousand veterans uh stretching back all the way to World War Two. So are our thoughts and prayers are with all those at the home, all the families of those at the home, And as soon as we have more on that, we will bring it to you. I have an update on another active previous shooter situation. Pardon me, what happened in

Florida at the Stoneman Douglas School. I have said to you and I stand behind this, and I think it's been proven increasingly correct with time that whenever we thought

it couldn't get any worse. From the perspective of what law enforcement involved in this scenario, right, I don't like to just say law enforcement generally, because we've got hundreds of thousands of law enforcement officers across the country doing a phenomenal job, putting their lives at risk every day and making this an incredibly safe and prosperous country in

the process. Right, but law enforcement involved in this shooting was in some cases absolutely uh appalling in their behavior and in other cases, which I'll talk to you about as well, very admirable. So you know, there you get both sides of it with the Stoneman Douglas shooting law enforcement response. But I was very critical of officer or deputy.

He's a deputy in the ship, Brown County Sheriff's Department, Deputy Peterson's actions and some of you, as you are always you know, I am always open to good faith arguments, challenges, critiques, you know, calling if you think I'm you think I'm off. I want to hear from folks out there. I think that I'm off, I think that I'm getting something wrong. Always doesn't mean I'm gonna agree with you, doesn't mean I'm gonna let it slide on air. But I want to hear from you and some of some of those

you listen. So I thought that I was being too hard on Peterson. Uh, now that we have more information, I'm I wasn't being hard enough on Peterson. A couple of very important points here about the Stoneman Douglas shooting in the law enforcement response to it. One is that it is in fact and was before this. Broward County Sheriff's Department policy that during an active shooter situation, you go and confront the threat. That is what armed law

enforcement is supposed to do. That is the policy. So people who were initially saying, oh, no, the policy as a perimeter, it's not their fault. They're not trained for it, that is false. Broward County Sheriff's deputies are trained and expected to directly confront the threat. Obviously that's what should have been done, and that was what they were supposed

to do. Now, once we heard about deputies on the scene who didn't go in, who were waiting outside the school, we knew there would be some maneuvering on their part to make it seem like it wasn't quite as bad as it was from the perspective again of their actions. And we even heard Peterson, I think through his lawyer, Deputy Peterson say well, I wasn't sure if a shooting was happening inside or outside the building, which you can

go back and listen. When that was the I said, I don't believe that, no way, I that's not even issue of training. Right, Every single oneting listing is like I would know if the shooting was inside or outside the building, it's not that hard to figure out. Uh. I said that at the time, and now we have the audio tapes. Now that this stuff is is disturbing, We're not going to play a lot of the news networks and shows and everything. I've just been running the

you know, terrified calls being made. That's not where we are past. Far enough past the event, and enough other people are doing that right now that I don't find that to be necessary at this stage. If it's out there,

it's on the internet, you can hear that. But this the response and analyzing law enforcement response so that if this comes up again, UM, everyone is very clear about what needs to be done and also what the expectations of the of of the community, of all of us of civilians would be in this kind of situation, it is important to look at the response. So that's why I'm gonna play coming up here and into a second, a short clip from officer Peterson's nine one one call.

This is in the initial moments, and Miami Herald has done some very good reporting on this. This is the initial moments. They've got a timeline now, uh and the nine one one calls have been released, but this part of it gives us some very important information. Play clup eleven. You're not put the twelve undred building daily away at good point, Stay away from building, stay away, stay five five hundred feet away from the building. My friends, come on, I know you know this, but wow, five ft away.

There is an active shooter inside the building. And he obviously knows that that's what's going on, and he's saying stay five ht away, which is against policy and against their training. Uh, this is a disgrace. It's a good thing that he resigned, because otherwise he would have had to be uh dragged into a public I as well. It actually doesn't even I was gonna say it could be dragged into um more of a of a hearing

than he already was. But it doesn't matter. We all know it's being tried in the public in a sense. Now we're all seeing this. It's really distressing though. Um it was as bad as we thought initially. He waited outside shootings going on inside. Kids are getting killed. They have no defense, they're defenseless. There's an active shooter. He's on the scene. He has trained, he has law enforcement, he has sworn to uphold lawn to protect the innocent

and didn't do a darn thing. We know that other law enforcement showed up at the scene and was appalled at what the Brower County Sheriff's Department was doing. They're like, well, what are you guys doing? You know they knew. And then there's another part, And I'm almost mixed in my feelings of this one because on the one hand, it is a reminder of what law enforcements country is really all about, so that's good. On the other hand, I'm

annoyed that they're getting in trouble. But you had to swat team members detectives Jeffrey Gilbert and Carl Schlausser, who rushed to Marjorie Stoneman Douglas High School the moment they heard there was an active shooter there. They just went They're just you know, wheels up inbound hot and they got suspended. I know you're thinking what to swat members running running towards towards the gunfire. Exactly what we expect

and know our law enforcement across the country does. And these guys have additional training and tactical skills to make them even more effective at confronting that threat. But they are emblematic of what American law enforcements all about. People are in danger, they're is a criminal who is harming innocence.

We're on it. So in that sense, it's okay and that that's what we're that's actually forget about this Peterson Deputy Peterson for second American law enforcement every day, time and again across the country is represented by detectives Gilbert and Schlauser. But they got suspended because they disobeyed orders. I mean, you know, we we can't let that one slide there. They're disobeying orders to go to the scene. Miramar Police Department spokeswoman Tanya Ruez said it quote created

a danger for the officers who were responding. Well, now that we know what those some of those responding officers were doing, I'm not really sure how we're supposed to take this one, folks. You created a danger for the officers who were saying stay five feet away from the building where there's an active slaughter going on, where students are bleeding out. Remember, every second counts. These are trauma wounds, they're dying, students are dying from blood loss five feet

from the building. As you all know, that's pretty far. That's not take up, you know, take cover and see if we can. I don't know, I don't know if officers would these officers probably wouldn't get into a stack and kick in the door, but try to tactically maneuver their way in the bill. No, No, that's that's like whoa, you know, we gotta let's let's go way way out there. Make sure we're nowhere in harm's way, five D free

from building. That's insane. And you got these other officers from Miramar Police Department who were like, there are people in danger. This is what we do, this is how we roll. So God bless them. I mean's it's it's good here. And and the that other the other police department that was on the scene that was disgusted by the actions of this. You know, we're all very thankful to them. Were representing what actual law enforcement this country is all about and how they do their jobs day

in and day out. But getting back to the failures here, you know with the FBI, the tip line, the FBI has said, yeah, we failed the we know they're gonna revamp the way they approach the tipline and some capacity who knows what that really means. But they dropped the ball many times. Um, I I have a you know, I'm less clear on what local law enforcement with with the passage of a little more time now and thinking about it, you know, Broward County Sheriff's Department, and I

guess they could have pressed charges for the threats. They could have tried that maybe, But the actual response that day from what we see and what we now know, and if you listen to those audio tapes, you'll hear it. They had cops on the scene exactly what was going on. They just didn't want to go in They just didn't want to get shot at. Deputy Peterson just didn't want to get a shot at. That's it. That's what you

take away from this this audio. And I know a lot of law enforcement law enforcement folks are hearing this and they're just saying, you know, that's just it's it's such a bad it's such a bad situation for all the other folks that were on the scene who wanted to go in there and wanted to be the ones that put themselves in harm's way to take those risks to protect people who had no chance of protecting themselves, and I know this is an issue people get very

passionate about. I appreciate that, I understand it. I feel the same way. But I'm looking at the response. I think it's important and we know what happened there. I also want to know when we can get and this is a diversion of digression from Stone and Douglas, but I'd like to know when we can get actual information on what happened in Las Vegas. Were speaking about active shooter situations. The more I'm looking at that, it just

keeps getting weirder. What's going on? I get no real information about so much that that have the nine one one tapes from this have been released, I might have missed them, But I feel like there's still a whole lot of information that we have access to about Las Vegas we could have access to that we haven't seen yet. What's going on there. Just that's something to think about, something we'll tackle another time. I'm gonna roll into a quick break. Your team will be back in just a moment.

You've appointed someone outside DJ. Are they actually a special counsel? And I think that matters because that individual needs have resources, need to be able to go to the grand jury in Washington, where most of this stuff took place. So you can subpoena evidence documents, bring witnesses in, if you need search warrants, you can do that. Remember when Hillary was investigated, they didn't do any of those basic administrative steps.

It was basically a proform investigation, a real investigation. Here if if this guy goes after this the way Mueller is scorching the earth, and you'll have a flurry of indictments based on what we already know. As Representative Rhonda Santis, I think he's totally correct here. If you applied Mueller tactics to a Hillary investigation, if you set up a second special counsel, which in effect I would not my friends,

would really be a special counsel. To look at the special council, there'll be all kinds of people that would be in jeopardy, and I think in legal jeopardy. I think it also would be fair play because the way this is going right now, it just continues to drain resources and just ruin the lives of people caught up in the investigation. And you'll notice something about them. They're all Republicans, all tied to Trump. This is partisan warfare. That's what the Muller probe has turned into. That is

what it is. This is the deep state's revenge, so to speak. And I think we're all sick of it. And if the shoe were on the other foot all of a sudden, or I guess we had shoes on both feet here, if there are two special counsels, you

know what I'm saying. If that happened, then maybe in the future Democrats would be a little bit less sore losers and wouldn't go for the legal option to remedy their political disappointments, wouldn't just try to weaponize the law and the d o J in order to get for themselves what they could not get through a free, fair and oh be election speaking free for an open election.

By the way, what I'm a Putin When Putin had something very uh interesting to say, this is through a tred it always it sounds not nearly as as tough guy, you know, as you would expect, right Putin shirtless carrying a rifle, three bears slung over his shoulder, that he's taken out himself, right, the whole thing. Whatever he does. Through a translator, it's like, yes, I will make sure that Vladimir is the biggest, strongest man. It's never really as scary as it should be, but this is putin

through a translator. Fourteen. You mentioned a number of names, some individuals. Can you're telling me that they're Russians. A so maybe being Russian, they're actually working for some kind of American company. Perhaps one of them used to work for one of the candidates. I have no idea, but these are not my problem. Like I have no idea, these are not my problems. Oh lad uh, you funny man. You so. I do think that the second Special Council would be very useful, and I think that we should

get it going. I think the representative to Santists makes the critical point there that we should see how the Democrats like it. When all of a sudden everything just turns into an examination where the facts are not what's really or rather crimes or not what they're really concerned with finding crimes that they can pin on political enemies is what they're trying to do right there, trying to create the conditions for violations of statute that then allow

for retalent. What's just political retaliation on the Vladimir side of things that they're the some kind of American company. These are these are not my problems. I think he's just trolling. Look, he's if if you were here, what would you say at this point, Well, maybe we will be easier with Hilary, you know, I don't know what would you say, maybe a moving of middle Um. I think that at this point in time, we were starting to see that the Democrat narrative is fraying at the seams.

They're getting desperate. That's why Trump wanted to stare down Muller in the first place. That's why we have a situation where finally, finally, um, there may be a breakthrough on North Korea, on the Mueller probe, and with China's unfair trade practices. Um, we will see, we will see. I have my I have some predictions in mind here. Oh I just realized. Sorry, I thought we were going to break there for a second, and we didn't. Because I'm in Savannah, so my timing is a little off there.

So if it sounded like I was dozing off, it just because I was like, am I to stop speaking? And I need No, I'm not gonna stop speaking. We've got our friend Michael os Lynn joining us from the Hoover Institute, and he's gonna talk about North Korea a bit more, and then third hour Obama on net licks we'll talk about that and a whole lot of other stuff.

I think it is a diplomatic shock and awe, and I think that it's because North Korea number one, is very close to achieving its objective of being able to deliver nuclear warheads to targets in the United States via ballistic missile UH and they want to buy time to get across that finish line. I don't think Kim Jong un acceptment expected that the President was going to take up his offer. I think he believed he'd get the usual response of six months of diplomatic preparation, nine months

of talks that would go on forever. So that's a former US and BASSI United Nations John Bolton saying that we may have knocked Kim off balance here, perhaps with Trump saying he would accept it so quickly. A lot of different analysis coming in on this one and obviously a momentous event here or or is it that's were this all comes down to you to help us work through some of this. We've got Michael Oslin on the phone. He is the UH inaugural WILLIAMS. Griff's Fellow in Contemporary

Asia Studies at the Hoover Institution. He specializes in global risk analysis, US security, in foreign policy strategy, particularly in Asia. Michael, great to have you, Thanks for having me. Book are what what do you make of this? I mean, just give me at first, your your thirty thousand foot view of what we found out about US North Korea South Korea diplomatic relations in the last forty eight hours or so. Well, honestly,

I think this is actually what both leaders wanted. I think from the beginning the Trump administration, I don't think they actually wanted to go to war. I think what they felt, rightly is that eight years of inaction by the Obama administration and failed policies on the part of previous US administrations had left the US with almost no leverage. So they ramped up the pressure. They increased sanctions. They talked about war and fire and fury and bloody knows.

And that gave Kim pause because he had never heard a U. S president consistently talk like that. On the other hand, go ahead, Kim Jong un pressed ahead with his nuclear and missile programs, ramped it up to the level where the United States seriously felt it either had to talk or it had to go to war. And so he got what he wanted, which is a sit down with the President of the US and the possibility of getting much bigger prizes. Now there's a lot of analysis.

We've been playing some of it here on the show for people saying this is, you know, clearly just a ploy. How could Trump for this? Of course there are other people that take a more pro Trump you saying this is a breakthrough that Obama didn't manage in an eight years. First, let me just ask you about that. How how do you assess the change here from what we had seen for the last eight years or so in terms of

the Obama approach North Korea? Is it fair to say that this is something new and different or is this just more of the same. Well, I think that it has been something like we might call it an Obama plus st ategy. What you know, the Obama administration adopted this policy of strategic Patients, which was basically a free pass for the Kim regime for eight years to build up its weapons systems. Uh. Now, they did do some sanctions,

they did talk about working closer with with allies. They did do shows of force occasionally, but that's what all US administrations have done. I think with Trump it was that questioning of the madman theory, would he really go to war? Does he? Is he really so unpredictable that it might be a bolt out of the blue. Now you combine that with much stronger sanctions and absolutely much stronger rhetoric, and in a sense it it is something new.

But I think the number one thing to remember when dealing with the North Koreans is never ever underestimate them. It may well be that Kim Jong un got nervous, and it may well be that he thought, you know, I better try to strike a deal before all the time runs out. But this is a regime's not forget that has survived for sixty years because of how wiley it is and how smart it is in negotiating its own survival. Uh. They don't do anything out of panic,

at least we've never really seen it. Uh. They dance right up to the line where you can't turn back, and yet they always drag themselves back from the abyss. And I don't think there's any reason to believe that they've changed. So the Trump administration may well feel that it is its pressure that has brought Kim to this point, but that doesn't mean that Kim is necessarily on the defensive. They may come up with some sort of massive raikivic like plan that will seem too good to pass down

or pass on. That would include very quickly getting United States troops out of the peninsula, normalizing relations with North Korea, recognizing them as a nuclear power, and the like. Uh. If Trump takes it, it's a worry because this needs to be negotiated very very slowly, with everybody understanding what the implications are. And of course, if Kim comes in with this grand bargain and Trump turns it down, then Kim gets to turn to the world and say, look,

I was the one who wanted peace. I offered this grand deal, the Americans turned it down. I'll never give up my nuclear weapons. We're speaking to Michael Oslin, who is a security expert from the Hoover Institution. Uh. Michael, people have been also putting out a lot of unsolicited advice to the president in terms of what needs to happen between now and this proposed meeting, which is supposed to happen in May. Right, that's what we've been told.

What what do you make of that? Do there have to be preconditions, specific preconditions for this meeting that we could already assess, or do you have to kind of see what the North Koreans come to us with first? I mean, how does this dance between now and the day of actual talks have to go? Yeah? Well, I think that horse has left the barn. Trump already agreed, and I don't think you can walk back and say,

by the way, here are our preconditions. Kim will walk away and say, you know, I'm not going to do that. So I think that the president, you know, publicly sending the South Koreans National Security advisor out to say, hey, Kim offered, Trump accepted, and then the White House confirms it means you've already given up that question of of of preconditions. Your question, I think is very right on the idea of speed. Here. This is happening very very quickly.

We're talking about this potentially taking place over the next two months. Two to three months at most is the timeline they've given us. Usually these things take years to to put into place, and you have all sorts of negotiations at lower levels, working their way up the chain so that when it gets to the presidential level and it gets to the level of of a summit, everything

has been worked out. The danger here is that nothing has been worked out, and there's certainly no time to work anything out in a methodical, sort of measured way. Either it's going to be a dramatic hail Mary to solve the Korean crisis, or they're going to go into the meeting without or both sides will go into the meeting without any real idea of of where they're gonna go with this. Again, I think the North Koreans definitely no, they're going to press hard on getting rid of sanctions.

They're going to press hard for some type of recognition for getting troops off the peninsula, all in exchange for probably largely unverifiable uh freeze on their nuclear program, or at least we can never be fully sure that they will have lived up to their words if this comes to not If let's say there's this meeting and it's a propaganda victory for the North Koreans, we don't get anything that's acceptable from our end. Really, from the rest

of the world's end on this one. Are we on a march toward military conflict with North Korea if we can't figure this out this time around, Well, I I don't think you're ever on a march necessarily because you can't figure it out. Look, we've been dealing with North Korea for twenty five years now, I'm the nuclear is 're now we failed, you know, we've failed to stop them from getting a nuclear weapon. So we're in a new era. But I I am of the school that

thinks that deterrence is not yet completely useless. You know. Hr McMaster, national Security Advisor, has indicated his belief otherwise. I think that the regime in North Korea certainly understands that it cannot win a contest with the United States, and since survival is its number one goal, it's it's it's overriding goal, and it's it's always going to be careful in terms of pushing us into some type of

military conflict. Um. But I don't think also that walking away from the table from this meeting without having solved anything means that you're back to square one. This is obviously a breakthrough of some kind, and we've seen it before. The North Koreans have proposed the nuclearization talks before the logic of diplomacy is that we have to follow up, but you have to be extraordinarily successful. But you're right, Buck.

What this does give and what can never be taken away, is that this gives Kim Jong n a massive propaganda coup. When you sit down at the table as a equal to the North Korean president, which is you know what the diploma, diplomatic protocol will be, uh that legitimizes him in a way no US president has been willing to do.

If the Trump administration is making a strategic change because they think this will actually get more cooperation towards the end goal of the nuclearization, that that's fine, but they've done it with such rapidity and so precipitously that you haven't prepared allies, you haven't prepared the U. S. Public. We're not sure if all the different parts of the U. S. Government have weighed in with with what they think this means.

So there are a lot of risks here, but obviously it's a gamble that the President feels he's well placed to take. Before we head off here into into the weekends, Michael I wanted to ask for your rosiest but realistic UH scenario here and meaning, if things go as well as they could realistically be expected to with this meeting, based on North Korea's red lines, and what it would what it would need for there to be some kind of a bargain here, What would that What would that

look like? What would a huge Trump I'd like to establish now kind of where the goalposts are for what is Wow? Trump just managed to pull off the greatest diplomatic national security victory since the end of the Cold War. Yeah, I think he has to avoid the raky Vic temptation to try to solve this in one fell swoop, as

Reagan did with Gorbachev. In Rekyvic, I think the most realistic and best case scenario is that they come away with an agreement to now can begin very serious high level talks about the nuclearization where the US has given up nothing, has not agreed to remove any of the sanctions, and quite frankly, all you can do is play that out. I think we know that the North Koreans undercut almost any deal they make. We know that they play for time again. I think the logic of diplomacy is that

you have to see where it goes. But given that it's at this level, any talks from now on we'll have Kim Jong UN's stamp on them, so to speak. So if they come away saying we are now going to begin a serious round of negotiations and the White House reserves the ability to uh to put on more sanctions or do other things, you know, I think it's better than them walking away saying, well, we failed and now let's prepare for war, or that they rush into a deal where no one is really sure of what

the implications are. Michael Oslin is the author of the End of the Asian Century, which is available on Amazon for you folks who want to do some deep dive reading on this on your own time, and he's also a fellow at the Hoover Institution. Michael, thank you so much for joining us anytime. Buck, Thank you, Tim. We are going to roll into a quick break here. We are going to come back and get into a bit of a freestyle because it's the third of the show soon,

So stay right there and we'll be back. It's a little bit of political tumult out in California. This is of the fun kind, though, because you got Democrat on Democrat issues. Latest is that our our may man, our home slice. Bernie Sanders, what do you mean? What are you talking about? The Republican show? Don't talk about me? What about it? He refuses. He refuses to endorse UH Senator Diane Feinstein in advance of her primary in California. I see, I think this is a this is a

harbinger of things to come. My friends, Here's why, Horbinger. Why are you using those words? What is that supposed to mean? Horbinger? So Bernie is the left wing darling of the elected poor, the Democrat party. Right. Bernie is where the Democrats were emotionally in the last presidential election.

I had so much fun at CNN whenever they would occasionally allow me to be part of a post Democrat debate panel, just looking at all the all the hillary Bots, all little Hillary supporters, and say, we all know that Bernie is the authentic one, right, authentic baby, real, the real deal. We all know that Bernie's what the Democrats would like to vote for, but instead they're going to vote for How wow, Hillary, she's the best, She's amazing,

and they went with Hillary. And now we all know what happened, and they wish they could have voted for Bernie. But the Democrat left is going to reassert itself. And let me tell you, there is nothing better that I can think of for the Republicans that the Democrats could due to themselves. Then actually let the American people what Democrats really want and think and believe you see, fine Stein is the and now keep on, this isn't when

I say old school. I think fine Stein and Senators are are pretty close in age, right, They're both They're both up there. But fine Stein is the uh, the more centrist model of left wing Democrat. At least she's viewed as being too conservative because she has voted this according to the progressives in the Democrat Party, because she has voted with Trump. This is what they say thirty percent of the time. So she goes against Trump seventy

percent of the time. Not that's not progressive. And keep in mind these are things like you know, we're talking about every vote that she has, right, so you know, with the defense budget, you know, you look at all these different votes that senators will will take in any at any point in time, and sure enough, Diane Feinstein is with Trump three out of ten times, and that is too much for the Democrats. So there's gonna be

a little bit of a progressive feeding frenzy. Uh last year, I'm sorry this year, well maybe there was one last year two. But there's the progressive feeding frenzy that's coming up. And I think this would be absolutely fantastic for the Republicans in the midterms because if if the American people see that it is in fact the left wing uh, social justice warriors that have become the ideological the ideological vanguard of the Democrat Party, the American people are are

going to run from that. So I want more. I want Bernie like fun Fun She's practically right wing. That's crazy, you know. I think that's way better because what you get with the Hillary fine Stein win the Democrat Party is meant it's really this much of the same him left wing stuff you'd get anyway, but they pretend to be more sort of centrist and down the middle and

technocratic and reasonable. Right fine Stein, And look, I think on something's fine Stein is more reasonable than say Bernie Sanders. I'm not I'm not gonna pretend like there's no differences, but I'm much more concerned about a a fine Stein surge in the mid term or people, I shouldn't say fine Stein surge, but Democrats, especially in purple states that are you know, They've got this guy in Pennsylvania's former marine.

He's telegenic, you know, you know these are formidable candidates folks, right, these are people that they're Democrats and they people can say, you know what, I'm gonna give this guy or this gall of shot. They look like they know what's up. You're gonna have Bernie Sanders style candidates in a lot of these races, or Bernie Sanders approved. It's gonna be a wipeout for the Democrats relatively speaking. I mean, it's

probably gonna be pretty close no matter what happens. But I like to get excited about the my political prognostications that everyone's gonna for get me. Remember, I'm gonna write a film. I'm gonna record it. Okay, Bernie, you do that. Our three coming up Stay with me team, Welcome to our three. Our Freestyle Friday is continuing here. Gonna be talking to you about violent video games, then share some thoughts.

All my time down here in Savannah and visiting with some of the UH fantastic sponsors of the Buck Section show, as well as getting to get a tour and hang out with some of the folks here at w t k c UH, which is the station or I Hard affiliate down here in Savannah. So I'll get a note some of that, and then we'll finish up as is our custom team with roll Call. But this is something that came across my radar and it fits into the category of just when is it gonna stop? You know?

I am a Netflix and nap kind of guy on the weekend. Now, Netflix and nap is Netflix and then taking naps Apparently Netflix and chill means something else, which I have found out. So there's that. But I'm a Netflix and Nap kind of go on the weekends. I love watching things on demand, and yeah, I read as much as I can on the weekends too, because that's when I do a lot of my additional research for this show for podcasts, and I just also love reading.

Um I love reading, and I'm not afraid to say it, but you know, I'm somebody who enjoys some good netflixes. I just burned through Ozark with Ms Molley. We loved it. I really like that thought it was very well done. And if if somebody likes the show, um breaking Bad, I think Ozark is a very good not as good as Breaking babb It's a very good similar genre. But

you know, Netflix is doing great stuff. They don't get you know, some of their shows or strikeouts, but they they definitely get on base a lot, and they've even hit some some home runs. And then I see this and it just makes me frustrated, folks, As somebody who works in the media works very very hard and tries to put out the best content possible all the time. It could be that we lived in a world where

content that the best content would win out. But instead, what you have a lot of the time is that the platforms are dominated by by political interests, meaning that there are people who have their own versions of what

they think politics should be. They make the decisions about what shows are on what shows aren't, and that's how you get abominations like bill Ny the Science Guy on Netflix, which was the worst, least funny, least informative, steamy pile of yak crap I have ever watched on any Netflix, Amazon, any of these new platforms ever period. It was unwatchable. I mean it was you know, gosh, I have like had flashbacks to try to watch this. It was terrible.

Now I find out that Netflix is thinking about having Barack Obama appear as the this is from CNN as the on camera moderator of a new series, or he might stay off camera as a producer of a show about uplifting American stories. Or maybe he'll do both. So Obama is about to become quite a force on Netflix. Now, a couple of things on this one. It's a great show. We're gonna tell stories about my background, how I saved the world a sport brother. So there's that. Uh. But Obama, look,

I I give credit where it's due. He knows much better to control the culture. He will be much more influential as somebody who is on Netflix. We're pushing show is on Netflix. You know, that's the way that the the upcoming generation starts going hard left. That's the way that they mold minds into being progressive social justice warriors, not by having another you know, Obama doesn't need to appear on CNN or MSNBC. Brop rop broop blop Ryan.

He's done plenty of that already, eight years of NonStop coverage and the Obama's amazing. This is the most brilliant man in the universe. Oh no, it's hard for me to talk to you people because you're not as smart as I'm I'm really smart, and I'm amazing and perfect and basically demigod, So you may worship my feet. Uh So he already had that, right, So now he's maybe

gonna be doing the Netflix thing. Uh But I I take this very seriously, folks, because the influence that he could have in the culture is much more than the influence that he would have as just another former president talking head. You know, you see how this this happens. Now, the Clintons understood that, especially given their look. The Clinton

Foundation in a sense was brilliant. I mean, it polluted charitable giving and it's disgusting to use charity as a vehicle for self advancement and all kinds of kickbacks in favors. Don't even get me started on uranium one, but no on all the other things as well, the open stuff that was going on, not even just the stuff we haven't yet found out the full details of. I think that's a total disgrace. But it was brilliant from the

perspective of the Clintons. You basically get to have a tax free marketing campaign for the Clinton brand, right and and and you get to burnish your brand by being involved with a charity and running a charity. So it was brilliant stuff. It's just the Clintons are grasping and disgusting and so they they made it too obvious what was really going on. And that's also why the Clinton Global Initiative shut down after Hillary didn't win. All of

a sudden, people don't care abou charity. They were given so much money, but then Hillary is no longer going to be the president and they don't care about charity. The donations dry up, they have to shut things down. Oh almost like the whole frigging thing was corrupt, but the Clintons had their charity. Obama, I've been I've been saying this for a while. Actually, he's going to be

a major force in the media, you know. He They're they're going to make Obama a crossover of political and cultural importance, and the left will do everything they can to elevate him. And the left is very powerful. He look at the HBO, left wing Netflix, left wing Amazon, left wing we don't control any of these platforms, folks. I mean, when it comes to like heavyweight punchers in the media realm, we really We've got Fox News Talk Radio, thank you very much, and you know, some some websites,

but we don't have the platforms. And you know, they're going to get the same information dominance that they had in the past, in the pre Internet age, because they're gonna control all the major portals. You're already seeing this with the social media platforms, but they're gonna use I mean, Obama is going to be the new Democrat media brand

in a sense. He's going to be political, he's going to be cultural, He's going to be you know, all of the uh, all of the media reverence and you know, the the intellectual political stuff that they imputed that they kind of pushed for the Clintons. Obama will have all of that, but also the you know, the media reach and savvy and relationships of you know, Ellen and Oprah and I mean, I don't know who's you know, really big these days, but you know, he might be a producer.

I'm just saying that this is both something to be aware of where area of because I think it will have a real impact. And also now I'm just gonna come to you. Now, I'm just gonna complain for a second. I'm just upset about I'm just upset about this. Okay, Like I like watching Netflix, and when Bill Night came on, I don't mean to harp on that one, but I'm going to it was like, Netflix, you really gotta do

me like this. This is how it's got to be. Now, Bill Ny the not funny, not even real science guy. He's he's a mechanical engineer. Okay, he runs around in a white coat. I don't know a lot of mechanical engineers that wear a white coat. Um. But then, and look, if the show was good, I would admit it. I admit when the left is doing something well, and I usually want to either steal it or copy it, or you know, find a way to do it on our side. Yeah,

you know, enough with the think tanks. How many of these right wing billionaires are gonna be running around and and you know, sending big check. We we've got things. We've got wonderful thing tanks the right wing. We've got policy. We were good there. We need competitive media outlets, and I don't just mean news. I mean I mean entertainment media. You know, we need to I know this gonna sound crazy.

We need a Netflix of the Right. And by the way, we can get that, they could license TV shows that are you know, more in in the realm of what you know, traditional America would like to see, our traditionalist Americans would like to see. You know, it's it's not all about the transgender struggle and progressive social justice issues,

which is what you see on Amazon and Netflix. You know, we could actually get some older shows that actually that show, uh, you know, traditional struggle of good versus evil, I don't know, stuff like that, and then create some new content. I mean, people keep talking about it, but it doesn't happen, and there's really no excuse now. So I'm putting out the call to all the billionaires who listened to this show. All I don't know, maybe one or two of you

have no idea. Uh, we need a Netflix of the Right because you're seeing this with Obama, they're going to bring him in. They're gonna bring in you know, Chelsea Clinton. It's just the media political apparatus, the entertainment political apparatus, is going to shut us down and drown us out unless we get savvy. We're gonna talk about speaking of media.

Violent video games coming up after the break. Violent video games not something that I spend much time thinking or talking about, but I know that it often comes up when there's one of these terrible shootings, school shooting, or any number of mass casualty shootings, and I usually think to myself, you know, that's just not that's not a solution, clearly.

And I don't think that the people that are opposed to violent video games say it would solve, but they just think that it would that that there are deeper cultural roots to the problems of some of the violence that we see in our society, and and I get that, but I gotta say, you know, I grew up this is a part of my life. I don't talk all that much about. I grew up playing a lot of video games. I read a lot of books too. I played a lot of video games. I was I went

through a phase. I'm one of four. I've got two brothers, and I have some cousins also who are are close to my age, you know, guy cousins and man, we all we played video games, and I remember all these different systems. Uh, I had Sega Saturn. My mom was great, you know, she tried to spoil the kids a little bit sometimes when she could. And at Sega Saturn and Turbographic sixteen Nintendo obviously, I mean Duck Hunt Duck Hunt

for Life game was amazing. Uh. So many of these different consoles over over time, and and then eventually PlayStation. And I've told you before about fond memories I have of playing Sid Meier's Civilization and games like Medieval Total War that I think actually have a really useful impact on the way that people think about strategy. I mean at a young age and you learn a bit of history, especially Medieve Total War. They've based it on all these

different military units completely accurate. The uh names of the provinces at this period, the I Medieval time, very accurate. So you know, if you play that game, you know what you know what a ghazi is, you know what a janissary is, you know what gendarme comes from a French term. This is all. Yeah, these are all historical, uh data points that are useful and it's fun to

play these games. But when I think of games, that's kind of what I think of maybe Street Fighter two and and I'm not somebody who's in favor of banning video games. I'm just opposed to censorship. I tend to the more libertarian side of arguments whenever it involves content. But I gotta say this is just I'm not advocating for a policy here. I'm just saying. And if you're going on this weekend, you're gonna be playing a lot

of games. I get it. But this montage that they played at the White House for Trump, when they're having the discussion about video games and violent video games, it's the most violent stuff I've ever seen. I mean it was crazy. I mean you get people up close and personal with hatchets literally lopping off heads and anatomically correct and there's blood spurting everywhere, and it's it's a mess. And I'll say, I do I have my limits? I mean, there are there are shows that are too violent for me.

There are movies that are too violent for me. And I grew up watching a lot of action films and stuff. But there's different you know, there's different levels, right, There's something very different about let's say, as you know, I love action movies, but Commando, you know, layoff, lit off some steam. Bennett, um My Schwarzenegger was not good there, but we'll just let that go. Nudolf's no, I can't

do it. I can't do it at all. It's because people think of schwartzening gob you know, because of Conan O'Brien och the gobintor. That's not really how he sounds in movies though, so um sometimes he does get to the choppa, but that's different with Schwartzenegger running around wearing just a tactical vest nothing nothing underneath it and short sleeves obviously because that's how he rolls, and firing an M sixty one handed from the hip on a full run and moan dudes down from two yards away and

none of them can hit him. By the way, if you haven't seen Commando, this is actually what happens in it. That's very different than say the movie Saw or Hostile or some of these other I think they call them torture porn. Uh, these other incredibly violent and really depraved movies out there. I'll tell you, I was actually on a first date once, and a young woman that I

was on the date with. There's many many. This is over a decade ago, said that, you know, her favorite movies were all of the Saw movies and Hostile, and I just remember thinking, I don't know if this is gonna work out, because I thought that was a little intense, you know, I thought that was a bit much. Uh uh. But you know, there there are limits for me. And I don't think that that means that necessarily it translates

into policy. I'm just telling you that I was a bit I was a bit surprised and a little taken aback by just how violent some of these video games really are, and it was a surprise to me. I feel like I'm I'm out of touch with some of these things because I gave up playing video games really after college. Not that I got any problem with I mean, you know, they're still fun. I still I still think I'm probably pretty good at them, played a little bit

here and there. But things have changed with them, and they're so hyper realistic now in the graphics and the first person aspect of these games also, it's so it's already so close to virtual reality. I feel like that's one of the reasons why virtual reality hasn't taken off more, because you play these first person games and you're already it's like your storm and the Beaches of Normandy there right in your head. I mean, you're you know, all these different call of duty games and I didn't play

much of those. Um trying to think of my my my real first person shooters, uh, you know, Awakening, that's a good way to put it. Was Golden I on the Nintendo sixty four. I played that with my friends when we were in maybe early high school so much, and that was a great game at the time, and that was my first time. I was like, Wow, first person shooter is really But that's if you look at that now, it looks like it's from another it looks like it's from the Stone Age or something. It's not

not nearly as advanced of stuff I have now. So I just looked through this montage and it's up on different sites that they showed the president, just with the most graphics stuff from video games you could find. And I gotta say, I was a little wow, that's actually really violent. I was a little uh you know. Taking it back is actually a nautical term for when the wind shifts and it hits the sale at an angle that all of a sudden kind of makes the boat uh slow or even feel like it comes to a

stop taking it back, but I thought it was. Yeah, it's a little much, a little more than I had expected. I will say that, and I don't think that necessarily factors into any policy recommendations, although it does make me think more about what is going on in the culture. You know, some things I think we can we can at least advocate for a certain level of decorum and taste. And you know that that's and so I guess that's what I'm doing. I'm not saying band super violent movies

video games. I'm just saying I wouldn't let my kids play the most violent video games. I would hold off on that until a little later on. I don't have kids yet, so this is easy for me to say. But you know, I'm thinking about what that would be like, and that's the volent video games. I would pretty much put a put a hold on that. You know, there were movies I was allowed to see action movies that were rated are but you know, I didn't watch a lot of at least not till I got into high school,

and I wasn't allowed to watch things. You know that came out in the theaters and everybody, if you remember basic instinct, very violent very uh graphic movie, not just with violence, and I wasn't allowed to see that, you know, with there are limitations, There are limitations that uh certainly were in place when I was a young you know, a teenager. So I've just changed my thinking a little bit.

On the video games. We've come a long way from sid Meier's Civilization, where the worst thing you'd see is Montezuma getting really upset at Genghis Khan. All Right, we'll hit a quick break, we come back. I've got some thoughts from Savannah and then some roll call. Stay with me. I have had a great time down here in Savannah, Georgia. I love this place. I'm gonna find every excuse I

can to come and visit. And also want to thank our I Heart affiliate here uh W t k C. They have been so generous and and warm and and help me out here making sure that I've got a great studio for my my days visiting in Savannah, and so thank you to all all the folks here. And also just had a great time visiting with our friends at nine Line Apparel and Black Rifle Coffee. Got to hang out with both of them. And actually I'm hoping that tomorrow I'll be able to get out to the

nine Line facility again. UH. Today I took a tour with the CEO and some of his uh, some of his corporate officers who go check it out. UH. Tyler Merritt and his crew also got to see Evan Hafer of Black Rifle and Matt Best because they've opened up a franchise inside of the Nine Line Apparel store. It's an incredible facility. They've got out here just outside of George, outside of Georgia, outside of Savannah, about fifteen twenty minutes from downtown maybe twenty minutes and UH, it's a really

cool facility. So I very much enjoyed getting to see all them today. And some members of Team Buck showed up. I just want to say thank you so much to all of them for deciding to h to make the trek. Some of you were in the neighborhood. Some of you drove quite a bit. I saw some uh, I saw some freedom hut T shirts in effect. And to those of you that made made the trip, I really do appreciate it. And you made me look good in front

of Miss Molly, who was with me today. She came out too, and saw everybody out at the nine Line store. So all in all, very very successful day. Really enjoyed myself. And tomorrow morning, Saturday morning, I'm planning on going out again to the nine Line facility. It's they've got a factory, they got a store. It's incredible, folks. If you're within driving distance, they're gonna be basically throwing a big party tomorrow and I'm planning to be out there tomorrow Saturday morning.

I'll get there around probably nine thirty am, so that's the plan. So if you wanted to just go check out some great gear, Matt Best will be there. There's probably gonna be a line of like four thousand people just to see Matt, and uh, that's just gonna be really fun, so you can come check it out with all the rest of us. They had today a bouncy castle for the kids, so it's a family event. They

got a bouncy castle for the kids. They had Clydesdale Horses, drawing horse drawn carriage, taking people on carriage tours, all kinds of food trucks with delicious food, barbecue, burgers, you know, you name it, and they really do it right. Man, these guys, the Black Rifle and nine Line guys know exactly what they're doing. It was a really fun event today and I got to drink some delicious ice coffee.

Miss Molly was so happy. She goes, I don't think they're gonna have almond milk, because you know, she doesn't really drink the cow milk and which I just prefer to as milk because that's true. And hopefully miss Molly is not listening to this because she might yell at me. But they have almond milk at the nine I mean well at nine Line Slash Black Rifle because it's delicious coffee and they want to make sure that all their customers are happy. So really good time today, and I

think those folks as well. So it's it's We've got a whole whole squad of of thanks that I'm giving out W T K s C. I heart um affiliate here in Savannah, Georgia. Also nine Line and Black Rifle. And then just a quick before we get into some roll call, a little a little fun story where you I took a drive. I'm pulling a Tom Friedman here, but this this is actually a good one. I took a drive over here and I took a an uber

as is my as is my habit. And the gentleman who drove me over here was really insightful and and nice and friendly dude. And you were talking a little bit, and I think he was surprised because I have some I have some knowledge of some places of the world that are surprising to folks. So when he said what when he started talking, and I said, you're from West Africa. You're You're from Nigeria, aren't you. And he says, he, oh, yeah, how do you know? I said, well, what part of

the country you from? And he and he told me, he said, I'm from the southeast. I said, oh, you must be Ebo and he goes, you know my tribe to I said, sir, I'm a man who knows many things. And we had a great conversation about politics and I love it. This guy told me that I'm not gonna use his name just because you know, he's a civilian. I'm I'm not I wanna bring him in this, but he might be listening because he downloads. He's now a

subscriber to the Bucks Exton show. We by the end of our ride, I turned him into a subscriber, so you know, here we have a legal immigrant to the country who is highly educated, highly motivated, really great conversationalist, fun guy to talk to. And he is a Republican, my friends, that's right. He's like, what is it with people that are hating on Donald Trump? He's like, you know, people tell me these things about how he's racist. He's like, he's not racist. Why do people say this? And I

was like, I don't know, man, it's crazy, isn't He go? Yeah, because what's with Hillary? Hillary is no good. I'm like, I know. He's like, it's I'm not saying that she's inhuman or anything. She's just not very not particularly easy to relate to as a human. I said, yeah, that's very student analysis, my friends. So we had a really good chat. But I was just great to talk to

somebody down here in Savannah who um is representative. I think of this new type of Trump voter or new type of Republican people that are like, you know, what, the economy is good, things are going well. You know, you can't trust the mainstream media, you can't trust some of these big outlets. And I said, sir, I couldn't agree with you more. Man. We had a really a really fun chat. So it's as you can get a sense, I think from my tone, it's just been a really

good visit, uh down here in Savannah. I'm a I'm a big fan of this place. I'm a big fan of New Orleans. I mean, I'm gonna be hitting up Austin pretty soon, definitely hitting up already on the schedule those of you who are listening on Whoa, Whoa. I will be out in Fort Wayne, Indiana in about three weeks for Talk Tank, which is an event that that

that excellent affiliate Wow Oh, will be putting on. So if you can come to that and I'll be hanging out all day, So if you want to chat, no miss Molly for that one though, Miss It was kind of a special treat for the folks today that came out from the team, including some original Saturday Squad that Miss Molly was in effect. That usually doesn't happen, but she sure enough was there for this one. So a

great time down here. As soon as I'm done with the show, I'm gonna be hanging out with some of our friends from the veteran community who are involved in Black Black Rifle Coffee and Nine Lines. So We're gonna have quite a night. I'm glad I do not have a radio show tomorrow morning, because that would be pretty tough. And that's uh, that's that's my story, and for now I'm just sticking to it. It should be fun. I'm

gonna go into a quick break. When I come back, we will do the actual roll call that I promise you we would do, so we'll hear from all of you. So stay with me back in just a few quick minutes. Alright, live from Savannah, Georgia, w t k C. This is Friday, Well Freestyle Friday roll Call. Hey, teen Buck, it's time for roll call. I feel like that music gets us all fired up and ready for the weekend, at least

for those of you that that dig it. Some of your probably like, Buck, why don't you stick to the classic rock? My friend? You should probably not play too much dub STEFP. People might be like, that's not really my thing. Um So first up here, Oh wow, that's great. We got Eric who sent me a photo of the two of us hanging out at the nine Line store here in Georgia because he just posted this up on

Facebook said thanks for taking the time, brother. Sorry, I couldn't stay and talk, had to pick up my daughter from school. While Eric, I totally understand my friend. Thank you very much for coming out. Um, and let's get to uh the next one here, because other than that's just a photo. Was a great photo, Eric, Great to meet you. Uh, Seth Rights, hey buck podcast listener here. Just worry to let you know that I enjoy your

occasional rants about things that bother you. They're educational and hilarious. Well, Seth, first of all, thank you for your note. And since you've opened the door, I'm going to walk through it. So I happened to check into a hotel here in downtown Savannah. The hotel will remain unnamed, but they told me when I'm checking in, oh, there's some construction going

on inside the hotel. They're doing some renovations. And I said, okay, well where is it and they said, well, it's kind of in a few places, and and I said, well, I'm just gonna tell you right now, I am a grumpy old man when it comes to unnecessary noise. And this is gonna be a situation where I'm gonna need you to put me as far as possible from the noise. And the young woman at the front desk, I mean, I think actually she's my age, but I'm just gonna say.

The young woman at the front desk said yeah, yeah, sure, sure, whatever, and kind of hustled me through the check in processes, and well, I think we're gonna have And I said, you know, maybe we should take a little bit of a peek here and see what what rooms are available. She says, no, no, I think you'll be fine. I said, well, why do you why do you take that opinion? Well, because we're totally sold out, so this is your only

room option. M So I go up in. Sure enough, I get to the room and it sounds like someone is taking a jackhammer to the wall, and I said, you know, this is not really gonna work for me.

It's not really what I signed up for. So I go downstairs and I have to go through this whole thing of Look, I'm I am unfailingly polite for the first few exchanges when I'm annoyed about something, but I know that there's a place that they can put me that's not there's no way that this place has no rooms that I just I refuse to believe that it is a hundred percent occupied, and sure enough I got to get somebody else to come out, and they had

to do the whole you know, clack clack, clack, clack clack, you know, pressing all the different buttons on the computer. And yes, indeed, oh there's a room that's far far away from all of the noise that they could have given me. So my thing that annoys me is whenever you are trying to change either your hotel room, your plane ticket, whatever it may be, and the initial reaction is to tell you that there's nothing they can do, and then you find out because I know that that

is true. Sometimes that is true something on planes, it's often the case, right, I feel bad or the well, actually that's not true. I rarely feel bad for the people that are dealing with you on an airline, because the airlines are they needed, they need a swift kick

in the bottle a lot of the time. I'm just gonna say it, but I do feel badly for the man or a woman that stands there and has all the all the rage directed at them when they are flight cancelations and everything else, and people think that they can move them and they can't. But when they can when you tell me there's no other seed option, or when you tell me there's no other room option, or there's no other table at a restaurant, and then I have to find out that that wasn't true, which I

basically always end up finding out. Can't we just skip that step? Can I please talk to your supervisor? Can I please talk to your manager? I don't want to do that. I'm a very reasonable guy, you know, a little curmudgeon ly, but very reasonable. So there you go, Seth. There's one thing that that bothers me a little bit. Um that would be oh, oh, now you I mean, I know I'm completely interrupting our roll call here for

I'm interrupting our previously scheduled programming. Another thing, folks, I don't know how else to say this, but the things that go in your car, that you hang from the dashboard that you think smell good, you become accustomed to it because you're in the car for a long time and you think maybe it smells nice. But for anyone who's not spending that time in the vehicle as much

as you are, it is an overpowering smell. And I don't actually necessarily want to get into a vehicle and feel like I am being face dunked into a tank of pine needles and lemon. You know, I don't need that. It's not good. So the smell that you want in a vehicle, it's just clean vehicle smell, which doesn't really smell like anything, and that's what you want. I am

very opposed to. And I actually know people that will tell you those chemicals they used to create those smelly tree things that they put in cars are very a are are noxious, They're not good for you. I'm not sure if I take that route. I just think they smell bad. And I go in some parts of the country and they're very common. I just go, mmm, I don't understand this. It's a little overpowering, particularly the the the fruit smells. So that's another thing that annoys me.

And I don't really need to feel like someone's taken cherries and shoved them up my nose and his fear. Especially you're in kind of a long drive. That's not fun, all right, that's an I'm gonna setsy. You open the door for me to complain, and I'm like, here I go. Next up Erica on roll called buck. I think you belong in the South. Your love of y'all boat choose kindness, keeping a casual is very much in keeping with the low country style oss in Charleston. Enjoy Savannah. Well, thank

you so much, Erica. I love Charleston too, So I'm gonna find we have an affiliate in Charleston, so I'm gonna have to come down there for a market visit and go visit. Are are great affiliate in Charleston. And but it's funny people in New York actually often say that I seem I have a somewhat Southern I don't know I was. I don't know what the word would be, vibe maybe even though obviously I don't sound Southern at all. But the name is Buck and so that's you start

with that. I do like boat shoes, I have long, kind of poofy, floppy hair. And I used to wear Sear sucker pants just all the time because I thought they were comfortable. I didn't realize that was Sear sucker pants and flip flops actually, which I have since found out is like southern fraternity boy standard issue. But my family is partially from the South, so maybe that's where I I get some of my dad's side of the family has a whole lot of Kentucky and Virginia in

the background. So there you go. Um next up here, Duke, he writes, Buck, you're right. Even when you think you're wrong, you're right. Trust Trump. I voted for McMullen. Oh, Duke, buddy, Hey, look, we all make mistakes, my friend. I would not have made the McMullen move myself. I I had Evan on radio. I was very fair to him as a as a radio host. I think I asked him questions. He's clearly, uh,

an intelligent fellow, and I think he's well intentioned. I think with the anti Trump stuff, he's gone way too far and to the point where I can't even have a based on his positions. I can't even have a constructive conversation with them. And he gets a little came esque with the you know, the country was founded on the principles of honesty and integrity and Trump is destroying all of it. I'm like, you know, let's let's try to look at let's try to look at big picture here.

So that's uh, that's where I am on all that. Um stand next up here, and uh, he writes, Hey, Buck, I've really been enjoying your show in Austin, Texas well. Stand speaking of wonderful affiliates and visit it's uh. K l b J in Austin is one of the radio stations that has been kind enough to add the freedom HUD to add the Buck Section show to its lineup, and we are honored, and I really hope that the folks in Austin are enjoying the show. And I I will admit I have yet to go to Austin my

whole life. I've spent so much time in Dallas because the blaze, so a lot of I've logged, you know, lots of man hours in Texas, but just not in Austin, which is a place I really want to go to. So I'm gonna go check it out. Actually, I'm gonna go check out k l b J in Austin as soon as I can. Will do an event down there, Barbecue, Barbecue and Buck. There. You know what, that's the name of our event right there, Barbecue and Buck. We just stumbled on it. We're geniuses, folks. See what we do,

see the magic that we make happen. So there we go. Thank you so much. Dan. Please spread the word to your friends in Austin too to tune in on on k l b J. And that's gonna be it, unfortunately for the show. For this Freestyle Friday, I think we've we've covered a lot of territory today. I hope you've all had as much fun as I have. I am gonna be go meeting up with some folks and friends on the waterfront here to go chill with some of our Nonline and Black Rifle and Miss Molly and the

whole squad. So I'll try to put out some photos tonight. If you see me on the waterfront team down here in Savannah, come by and say hi. Maybe we can drink some mescal together. Until next time, from down in the South Shields High