Hate Crime Hoax Exposed

American again. The buck Sexton Show begins, analysts, he's a great guy. Now they are looking for two suspect who are apparently wearing make America Great Again hats. We don't know what happened to Jesse, but what we do know is that racism is alive and well in this country. There is real evidence of people who have done these

crimes who cite that the President has inspired. Then Senator Corey Booker said, the vicious attack when actor Jesse was an attempt at modern day lynching a Hollywood star who's black and gay and now the victim of a heinish crime, not of that attack at a star of a TV show, Empire. Jesse Smollett from the hit show Empire was attacked and beaten early this morning in Chicago, and police say it could be a hate crime. I'm so shaken by the story. I know he walked himself to the hospital. Do we

know how he is now? Connect the dots. This is what happens if you are in a position of power and you hate people, and this is America. In twenty nineteen, he opened up about what he's learned and the bigger message he wants the world to hear. How can you doubt that? How do you not believe that it's the truth. And then it became a thing of like, oh, it's not necessarily that you don't believe that this is the truth. You don't even want to see the truth. Welcome to

the Buck Sexton Show. Sorry, we had to start out there with just lies and falsehoods and more lies and more, all of it false, all of that stuff that we were being told there by the media, some of the biggest platforms in the country, some of the most self loving journals around, big big fans of spreading this hoax around there. That's what they did. Man, it is interesting to be right here, I am. Let's just do a quick count of where we are team versus where the

mainstream media is Cavanaugh, Covington, Smallett. Can they point to any conservative hoaxes in the last year. I just wanted to where's the big conservative hoax? Or we were on this show. I was like, well this happened, and no, it didn't happen. My bad ah was never never brought up. Didn't happen? Did it? Yet? Here we are, there's so much going on here. Oh, we're gonna have some fun on this story. So smallt was. Smallett was arrested taking down a court Today, he's out on a hundred thousand

dollars bail. And you had a member of the Chicago PD, I believe it was Police chief came Eddie Johnson came out today and he lets Smollett have it play eleven attempted to gain attention by sending a false letter that relied on racial, homophobic, and political language. When that didn't work, it's let pay thirty five hundred dollars to stage this attack and drag Chicago's reputation through the mud in the process.

And why this stunt was orchestrated by Smolette because he was dissatisfied with his salary, so he concocted a story about being attacked to put the national spotlight on Chicago for something that is both egregious and untrue. Is simply shameful. I'm also concerned about what this means moving forward to hate crimes. Of my concern is that hate crimes will now publicly be met with a level of skepticism that

previously didn't happen. Now, let's just look at some of the details before we go too far to the analysis here. Let's do some of the details. Smolett. I guess that is how we say his name, I've been Smolett Smolet. Perhaps if we wouldn't get kind of a French vibe there messieurs Smolet. But no, it's it's Smolette. He has engaged in, according to police, now two to hate crime hoaxes.

One was sending a letter to himself with threatening, threatening stuff and racial slurs, and then this even bigger hoax involving a three thousand dollars plus payment to two brothers who were helping him to stage in attack. Some details that I think you should know about, though. One is that Smolette paid the brothers with a check. That's right, the thirty five hundred dollars was paid via check. Now, I'm not some arch criminal, Okay, I'm not somebody that

you know. I don't even like getting a speeding ticket. I stay inside the law. But I'm telling you this much. If I were trying to engage in some illegal activity of this kind to stage some kind of an elaborate hoax, I think I'd pay cash. I just think that's a better move than to leave an obvious financial she'll trail to your co conspirators. I'm just putting that out there. Probably a good move. Also, since since we're gonna break down, I'm sorry, this is the dumbest hate crime hoax that

I that I've heard of or seen in years. I mean, there's some very dumb ones out there, but this one is. Wow. Smolette is not exactly an evil genius. So he paid these kys via check. I wonder how he's gonna explain that one to the cops I saw today, As lawyers say, he's looking forward to clearing his name. Yeah, how are you gonna do that? Exactly? But the two guys that he the two brothers that he paid to help him in this attack, which is also I would note, an enormous,

an enormous mistake. The osund Row brothers, Olah and Abel, they went into a hardware store and bought masks, red hats, and rope for the quote noose and they did this on video. I've also heard that they had the magazines that they used to cut the letters out of to create there. But I'm sure there's DNA in it, by the way, I mean, if they're showing up on video buying this stuff, they probably paid with credit card too. I mean, I just these guys. This is the most bumbling,

buffoonish hoax hate crime imaginable. And yet look how long it took for the media to finally turn this around. Look how long before they were willing to say, you know what, maybe we made some kind of a mistake here, maybe there's maybe there's an issue. And now they're saying, well that the Democrats who were initially jumping in are saying, ah, we might have made we might have made a little

mistake here. We might have Kamala Harris Kirston Jilla Brand, who I really enjoyed Tucker's monologue last not on his show, on Kirston Jill brand Worth going back and seeing if you haven't worre Mache's just a nasty phony, just an out and out phony. But Democrats don't mind that kind

of stuff. But Jilla brand and Harris and Booker, they've all come out and sure enough after saying that this was terrible and oh it's Trump's fault and all this stuff, now I'm like, yeah, you know, maybe you know, maybe we should have waited a little bit, Maybe we should wait for the facts. Now, Oh, wait for the facts now. Okay, okay, that's interesting. Let's give you some more facts. Since they want to wait for facts, here's the police chief, Eddie Johnson,

talking about more of the stuff that they have. Play eleven. Oh, I'm sorry, Play ten. This case, in particular involved hours of video evidence, which, when combined with old fashioned police work, uncovered the truth. These detectives deserve all the credit in the world for carefully analyzing the leads and the evidence for weeks before coming to their conclusion. I'd also like to thank the FBI for their helping this investigation. I only hope that the truth about what happened receives the

same amount of attention that the Hopes did. I'll continue to pray for its troubled young man who resorted to both drastic and illegal tactics to gain attention. We know that it won't receive the same amount of attention though. We know that the multi billion dollars news media apparatus in this country is going to find a way to quickly, as quickly as possible, move right past this story because

their audience doesn't want to hear about this. Their audience want to be told, hey, crimes are rising, Hey crimes are rising, And I say, wow, where on what time frame? What kind of crimes attributable to whom? When you actually look at the numbers, what you find out, by the way, is that the single single group that suffers religious group that suffers the greatest amount of hate crimes, for example, is anti submiticate crimes. But the left is not that

they don't turn those into national news stories. Generally, this is a national news story, a black gay actor attacked by Trump's supporters. It couldn't have been more perfect. It's it's like this was concocted, this whole story by a couple of you know, undergrad film majors covered with hashtag resistance tattoos in some you know coffee shop in Los Angeles.

I mean, this should not have ever even nobody should have ever thought that this was a good plan and this made any sense, and that Jesse Smollett, who or Smolette who is an actor, couldn't have come up with a more convincing story. I don't know, I haven't seen him in the show Empire, but you can't be a very good actor. I'm just guessing the cops thought that this might have been a hoax from the beginning. They

tried to give him the benefit of the doubt. Play thirteen here, John Well, to be perfectly honest, from the very beginning, we had some questions about it, but as I said, we gave mister Smolett the benefit of the doubt all the way up until that forty seventh hour of the forty eight hours, we could hold those two individuals because we just didn't have the total package to

support that it was a hoax. So when you heard me coming out saying we are treating him like a victim, that was the truth, because at that time that's what he was speaking of. Victims. You know who Smilette victimized here, not just the millions of Trump supporters across the country

who knew that their reputations collectively were being tarnished. You know that this was always meant to be a judgment on all of us, those who vote for Trump, who support Trump, who believe in his promise to make America great again. We were the bad guys. That's what was at the heart of this. But the people that really suffered are the people of Chicago, with the over a

dozen law enforcement officers who were assigned to this. When you have a city that has a terrible violence problem and a very high unsolved murder rate to bring those kinds of police resources, I've seen estimates that this might have even cost in terms of police man hours, hundreds of thousands of dollars, hundreds of thousands of dollars spent so that this clown Smolette could turn himself into some kind of cause celeb turn himself into not just a celebrity,

but that rarefied and oh so desirable on the left, victimized celebrity, special category, social justice approved celebrity. Oh what could be more wonderful than that? But he was upset. He was upset with his salary on the show and thought if he got more attention, he would make more money. So Smolette is a narcissist, an idiot, and a bratt Think of how many people rushed to his aid to believe him, to run interference for him. Think of how

this became a national news story. None of the kids who have been shot in chicag I go in the last thirty or sixty days, none of them have turned into national news stories. Lives lost, family shattered. That that doesn't get the media's attention. This a guy who I also read today, created his own wound. I mean that

little scratch on his face. If two guys poured bleach on you and put a noose around your neck and manage to do that, and we're trying to hurt you, I think you'd have more than a tiny little scratch on your cheek. I mean it looked like he cut himself shaving. Whose terrible attack. You know it was all a lie. It was all a lie. And I know that there are other things in the country we should focus on, and we will shortly, But today is when

the whole thing finally came crashing down. So you'll have to excuse me if I have a moment here to just say, isn't it good to be right? Team? You listen to this show. I don't have a I don't have a hundred reporters. I don't have some huge newsroom at my beck and call and everything else. I just read and think and analyze and bring all of the knowledge and all the assistance that I can from all of you who listen into that process. And somehow we know.

We knew this was garbage. That's why we kept doing the Jessie Small and updates as we went along. Year up, it looks pretty bad. So we were right and they were wrong. The fake news can't figure it out, but we can. We should do a little victory dance, and you know what today is victory dance Day. We'll be right back. Can we be honest? But to certain groups of people, even if they were skeptical there, like they said,

I hope this is not true. Black folks, gay folks, people are like, oh my god, I hope you know why. And you know why black folks, gay folks say that because they are real victims of well, because there are real victims of homophobia and of racism, but also because unfortunately we tend to all be painted with the same brush when one person and does wrong. And that's why we always say that when something goes wrong, is we hope the person is not black, We hope the person

is not gay. Yeah, I don't agree with a lot of people that are out there saying that this, this hurts the victims of real hate crimes, because real hate crimes are crimes, right, great, No one, no one hears a story about you know, some some bad person somewhere who are you know, No one hears a story about some bad person who attacks you know, a woman because she's you know, wearing a her job or because you know, and says, well, that can't be true. And if it

is true, everyone wants the person punished. But those are those are real. And look, there are a lot of hoaxes out there too that involve things like that. But you know, though those are real things. I don't. I don't agree with this, This completely implausible story that Jesse Smollett, you know, fool the media into into believing somehow now undermines everybody. No, you know, if someone says something terrible and racist and punches somebody in the face outside of

a restaurant somewhere. My first reaction is I'm like, oh, that's terrible. You know, I wonder did the police get them? What happened? When someone says that, you know they had two Maga hot wearing noose carrying you know, this is Maga Country yelling guys in Chicago at two o'clock in the morning. You know, No, it just wasn't incredible. It was incredible. Don Lemons also he said that he's been texting, you know, he's over at CNN. I used to dude, Don show a fair amountain then I wised up. It's

texting frequently with Smolette. Doesn't that impact the coverage? I mean I always say if someone's a friend, not because I'm like the person's my friend, but because I want you to know that if there's someone I have to talk about here on the show that I have any kind of personal relationship with, I think you should at least know that. And as you know, I also don't trash my friends. I have a rule. I don't trash friends on air, but or even particularly harshly criticize them.

That said, why is it okay for Don Lemon to have a personal relationship with this guy and do stories on him night after night on the show. I'm just wondering, well, where are the journal is John? Is Don Lemon a journalist? Is any mean Don Lemon? Is he a journalist? Does CNN have a Can they give us an official ruling on that? I mean, he's obviously not, but I just want to know if CNN is delusional enough to think that he is. Eight four four nine hundred two eight

two five. Let's open up those lines, team, tell much to think about this small Lett situation. Eight four four nine hundred two eight two five eight four four nine hundred buck light him up. I know, Jesse, I love him. We have to understand this is happening for a reason. Why all of a sudden do we have people unable to study well, black, unable to mo alan while black, unable to have a picnic while black, and being attacked. It's coming from the President of the United States, Dog Whistlin.

Every day he's separating and dividing, and he is basically embolding those folks. This is the problem with the approach that the Democrat politicians and the media take to these situations where they just say, well, we're gonna go all in on what we want it to be, what we want to be true, and then if we're proven to be completely and utterly wrong, which they have been, yeah, maybe we'll walk it back a little bit, or we'll

just move on to something else. And the media will say, Okay, maybe we got that wrong, but you know, no big deal. The problem is that there is lasting damage that is created from the propagation of the lie. There you had Maxiine Waters, very well known member of Congress. I believe she's on the now. She might be running the finance I ever forget, not not the oversight Committe, it's some kind of financial committee. I forget what a producer, Mike,

we let me know what it is. She's a She's on a pretty important committee in Congress now because the Democrats obviously control the House. But she just went through this whole thing of essentially telling any any person listening, and I think it would resonate, particularly with Black Americans, that you know, you can't quote study while black, have a picnic while black. All these she says all these things, and it's reckless for her to say these things because

it's just not true. What she's saying is not true, and Jessie the the lie that he told. Even if it were true, it wouldn't prove all these things that she says. But people will hear Maxi and Waters using this incident in order to create this this storyline about how America is still so racist. I mean, the left is so invested in making Americans believe but we are a uniquely and deeply and irredeemably racist country that there's

a desperation to find racism all the time. I would just note that if we were so racist, it wouldn't be so hard to find real instances of national news level racism. They would not have to make it up. And that's why I read do You Last No? Earlier this week that string. She's the House Financial Services She's the chairman of the House Financial Services Committee. Maxie Waters, Yeah, that was the one. So I read you that string of hoaxes because I don't want any of you to think,

because you'll hear it in the media. Oh hey, crimes are on the rise and hoaxes are rare. M Actually not true. Why would there ever be a hoax of this kind? It's so strange, how many hoax burglaries. Do you know of how many hoax you know? Go down the list where where do the hoaxes occur? Usually where there's some political incentive, which then to among the dumbest questions of all that will be asked now and you will see people asking this question. I guarantee it. Why

would he do this? Why would JUSSI do this? He has he has nothing to gain. Where have you heard this before? By the way, he has nothing. Oh, just like how Christine blasi Ford, another fabricator, had nothing to gain. Hm, she had lots to gain. Actually, as we know, Smollett clearly thought he had a lot to gain from this, and for the first few weeks he did national news story sympathetic anchors, He sat down with Robin Roberts at ABC, and you know became he became a trending topic on

social media. Everybody was you know, he had he had future president or current presidential candidates jumping forward to come to Jesse's defense. Everybody knows that this can also result not just in the elevation of your profile, but the acceleration of your career and the enrichment of your bank accounts. Look at Colin Kaepernick. Colin Kaepernick was past his prime

NFL quarterback. The people that I know who know football, that I trust, I've talked about this many times before, and they're like, the guy, he just wasn't that good. And he was doing something with his taking of the knee and his pig socks for cops. He was doing stuff that alienated the audience. And guess what, No one has a civil right to be a professional football player. No one has a guarantee that they get to be a multi millionaire athlete. It is entertainment. If your movies stink,

you don't get to be in more movies. At least you shouldn't be If people don't want to watch you on a football field, doesn't matter how good you are, you're a liability. And Kaepernick wasn't that good. Pebel didn't want him. Oh but then he turned into a social justice hero and now he's a major Nike figure and there's all these campaigns out there for millions and millions more dollars because of essentially his agitation. No policy has

changed because of Kaepernick. Then nothing, There's been no benefit of what Kaepernick has done. Oh, he started a conversation on race we have conversations on race all the time. I mean, that was one of the one of the most insane things of many things that Attorney General Eric Holder back in the Obama day said was, you know, we're cowards when it comes to race. We don't have talks about race. The left wants to talk about race pretty much all day, all the time. If you turn

on MSNBC or CNN. Other than the Russia collusion delusion, their favorite thing to talk about is race number one. And I was a contributor at CNN. I knows I come to you, I come to you with with with stories of abuse and gas lighting and all kinds of stuff from being over there. But I remember when the Black Lives Matter movement based on Mike Brown and all that that was really a that was the biggest news

story in the country. They were running stories on it all the time, and they couldn't get enough of it because they thought their audience couldn't get enough of it. Meanwhile, the fact that Mike Brown attacked a cop and got shot after he you know, robbed a store a few minutes before. I mean, the guy, the guys who the guy is a thug is apparently know how to say that.

That's not they don't like even though thugs come from the Thugy cult in India, occult based on strangulation that some estimates go as high as killed in the high hundreds of thousands of people. It was a religious cult. It's actually the Thugy cult in India is the loosely the basis for the evil cult in Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom Boom, Did your mind just explode? But the Thugie cult was nineteenth century and the British authorities were the ones who rooted it out. But that's

where the term thug comes from. And we're not supposed to say thug though, So you could say Mike Brown was a hooligan? Is that better a ruffian? You know, a vandal? You know, I don't know. You have to sort of pick your your term. That won't all of a sudden be oh, you can't use that term. He was treated like a martyr of some kind of movement and CNN would run these stories night after night after night.

It was it was they were complicit in racial Mike producer Mike comes up with a good word for him, Well done, Mike, a criminal Mike Brown a criminal who got shot. Thank you, Mike, well played any time. Yeah. So they they held this up as oh, you know, this, this movement and it's going to change police relations. This was when you had the first black president in office, and yet still we're told, so the country is so racist,

it's so terrible. And I would just say, as I point to these hoaxes, if the country's so racist, why must they elevate a hoax in this way? Why must the left do this? If the country were so racist and police were so racist in particular, why is the center of the biggest political movement about police violence an individual who was lawfully shot by an officer defending himself. That that's that's the that's the person you're going to

build a movement around. And again, the agitation here is clear that the purposes of this is not to create some kind of harmony. It's to keep people divided. It's to keep people angry with each other, and it's to feed them these narratives of victimology and suffering and hatred that are very appealing to people. Why is Jose Smallett as a victim appealing well, because then then he gets to get all the sympathy from the media, and he gets to tell his story. And you know, why would

he lie because it benefits him to lie. Why do people like to hear these stories of victimhood because they will translate it into their own perceived victimhood. Oh, this has been unfair to me, that has been unfairming. Here's the truth is. Life is not fair, never has been, never will be. Everybody, at different times and in different ways, has been on the wrong side of an unjust situation.

But we also, all of us, myself included, make bad choices, sometimes get a little lazy, don't do the right thing, don't do what we know we should do. Sometimes you do enough of that and your life trajectory starts to change. Sometimes you you start to see, yeah, we all make mistakes, right, but you make enough mistakes and you've got more of a of a macro level problem on your hands. Right.

You know this is this is It's like the difference between binging on you know, a dozen donuts and eating a dozen donuts every night before you go to sleep for about six months. The latter is going to actually have an impact in your life. It's not going to be very healthy for you, right, you make bad decisions. Don't donuts? Sounds so good? Right now, I'm really hungry. You make bad decisions and you have to deal with

those decisions. But what if, what if I could tell you that there's a story, a story that I could promote to all of you listening that would make you think that, No, it's not that you've made any bad decisions, or that you would have made better decisions. It's not your own lack of discipline, or or or just bad luck or any of these. No, no no, it's none of that. There are bad people out there, Trump supporters. There are bad people out there who are the cause of the

disappointments in your life. There are bad people out there, the other here, the patriarchy, white male Christians, Trump supporters, MAGA hat wearers, and they are the reason for your disappointments in life. It's not in your hands, it is it is those other people that are unfortunately individuals like to hear this. It frees them from the uncomfortable every and I mean this for whoever you are. It's always better.

You know, whether it's you think you're being victimized by you know, your boss at the office, or you know your your your social life is not what you think it should be because of it's it's just like envy, right. The politics of envy are so powerful because we all see people that are spending more money on a yacht than we'll make in a lifetime and say, is that

guy really so much smarter than me? Well, when you look at identity politics, and you add into those identity politics the victimology narrative, and you look at and this is at the heart of intersectionality. All these different groups are pressing each other. It's not that any group should sit down and think to itself. First of all, do we want to even be judged as a group? Aren't we just individuals? Aren't we all just human beings with goals, aspirations, hopes, loves, desires.

Do we have to be always thought of as in this group? But even if you're going to think about it as a group, isn't it more comforting? Isn't it easier to be told that whatever's going wrong and wrong in your life, it's because you're part of this group, and it's because there are other people that are holding

you down. It's a seductive narrative and it's at the heart of the current obsession with victimhood in this country, and also understand this victimhood is a means of not just achieving for oneself a kind of immunity and an excuse, but also claiming victim's status is a way of seizing power from those that you think should not have it, especially people who seek to be ethical in their doings. Nobody wants to be victimizing somebody else. Guilt is a

very powerful tool in our politics as well. All of this factors in to this mess that is the Rushi, the Jussie Smollett hoax. All right, team, we've got a lot more so. There's an IRS analyst that was the latest deep state clown on the scene. We'll talk about what he did. I've got some mccave thoughts for you. He's a bad guy. Knows rise there and and so so much more. Show. Oh, and I hate crime against

a conservative that you'll hear about here. In fact, we'll bring you up to speed with the latest on it that you probably won't hear anywhere else. Happened in UC Berkeley. Somebody got really badly beat up because he's a conservative. Have you seen that on CNN tonight? I don't think so, but don't be watching CNN. We'll be right back Kenny and Boston, my brother from Boston. What's up, Kenny, Hey

Buck A long time no talk. It's great. You make up a good point here with the him being stupid, but I'm kind of really this is really bothering me because I can't think he could be that stupid. Now, he wanted to be on camera, You wanted this thing to be on camera, but he chose two black dudes and he calls them white dudes and report wouldn't that

have been seen on the camera? Why is he It's almost like he wanted to be caught where he's deliberately being sloppy and um because even now he's still denying and vowing to fight these charges and exonerate his name. And then also what about that manager or agent that he was on the phone with. I don't hear anything good good point about the manager or agent. Was he in on it or was it just he got pulled

into the hoax? Unknowingly right, he might have gotten a call from him where he did through this whole thing, but you know who really knows. But I would say this to you, Kenny, to your theory, which which I think is is well thought out. What if, though, what if Jesse's Smallett is just really, really dumb? Just just leave leave that open as a possibility, leave that opener. What if he is in fact? Because you're right, I mean, it's so stupid that it's hard to believe he could

be that stupid. But what if he is, It's possible. And as to the pronunciation of his name, we always talk about the pronunciation of the last me, but what about the first name. It's spelled with the You shouldn't he be called juicy? You know, I was always thinking, you know not. I'll see it's a juicy right anyway. Yeah, I don't know that joke. That joke kills on the South Side. Thanks for calling, Kenny, could to talk to you, man? Uh, could talk to you? Oh man, it's already next hour time.

So the deep State, it's a thing. What have they been up too lately? Well, we have somebody who gotten quite a bit of trouble or could be in quite a bit of trouble based on his desire to take down Michael Cohen, Trump's lawyer, with confidential government information leaked to the press. What does this tell us about things and also what's the latest on the Mullaprobe team. Strap in an hour two is gonna rock it. He has to make a decision. Is he going to be the

people's lawyer or is he going to be the president's lawyer. Clearly, this president regards the attorney general as one of his minions. He has no respect for the rule of law, in fact, utter contempt for judges and the judicial process. And he has denounced relentlessly and unstintingly the FBI and other law

enforcement absolutely unpressman it shattering all the norms. William Barr is a professional, at least he should be, and he's going to have to stand up and speak out for the Department of Justice and the rule of law, and that will make his ride a pretty wild one. Oh, I'm sure denang Dick is really gonna sway Bar one way or the other with his usual slimy antics there the people. Will he be the people's lawyer or one of Trump's minions. Look, Barr is a guy who has

done this before. Okay, he's been to this rodeo before. He was well respected then, he is well respected now. He obviously can do the job. And that's why even the lunatics in the Senate on the Democrat side could not come up with a real rationale to try and stop him. So he's now the Attorney General, and thankfully, it looks like we are heading into the end of the Muller nightmare. Although it's, as I've said, not going

to result in an end to investigations of Trump. It's not like they're going to just say, Okay, you know, well, we're gonna move on to other stuff now. Nope, They're gonna keep drilling down and drilling down because when they can't win the argument, they figure they can win just through harassment, which is the point here, just through harassment. So we'll see if the Special Council ends next week. I've been telling you that for a while. It looks likely a lot of people have reported on it, and

it would make sense. But in the meantime, got some other updates for you. Roger Stone. I have to tell you, I kind of like Roger, you know, every time I've talked to him, interviewed him. I like Roger. I like Carter Page too. Carter Page are really really nice, friendly, unpretentious dude, and Roger Stone look He's a character for sure, and I bet if you get on the wrong side of him, he's not very pleasant. But I kind of like Roger Stone. Oh I'm a pundit. I'm allowed to

like and dislike people. I don't have to pretend to be neutral. And it's pretty amazing the career that he has had in politics, stretching back for many, many decades. Well, anyway, Roger is whereas a political operative. At least Roger is not able to speak publicly anymore about his case that just came out today. Federal Judge Amy Berman restricted Stone's ability to speak publicly about his case because she says Stone posted and then removed a photo of the judge

on Instagram that had crosshairs. Now, Stone said it was a Celtic cross but had crosshairs behind her head. So he gave a formal apology, or rather, his lawyers wrote up a formal apology for him, and I guess we're moving past the matter now. But Stone is no longer so I'm glad we got an interview with him when we could over at Rising. I should have had him on radio. I didn't even think about that. But Stone is no longer going to be able to tell the

public what he thinks about the trial he faces. I'm gonna tell you this, and I spoke to a Democrat lawyer recently off the record about the like he thinks that Stone. He agrees with me because I said, I've read the stuff. I think if Stone fights this, he won't beat all the charges, but he will beat some of them. The witness tampering charge is bull. It's a

bull charge. He can beat that. But the ways, the way the federal prosecution works is if even if he beats that charge, but he goes to trial and other charges and they get I mean, he's going to prison for years in years, So is he really going to see Is he going to see this all the way through? Is he willing to see this all the way through? Well,

we'll have to see. But I do think he'll beat you, mark my words, if this goes, If this goes all the way, I think he'll win on the witness tampering charges, which will just show you, even though it means that Roger will probably go to prison on the lying under oath part of this, it'll show you that the Special Castle was looking to just crush anybody around Trump and that even when they had other charges that they could have made, that they were trying to do the count

of endless counts. They were trying to stack the deck against him. Then one other thing, that's that's in the Muller deep state anti Trump investigation world. That it's a little bit of a rough transition there, but hey, you know it's live radio. So federal prosecutors have charged an analyst with the Internal Revenue Service for illegue disclosing confidential reports about Michael Cohen's bank records. This was to show that Cohen was trying to profit from his access to

the Trump White House. Now you might say, buck, who really cares about this guy John Fridy, IRS analyst, Which you know, Hey, I'm in Delaware as an IRS analyst. Why are we talking about this guy? Well, because yet again we have a federal bureaucrat, another one of these government employees who was willing, was willing to throw his career and perhaps his freedom away just to get a little pad on the head from some journos at the

Washington Post and the New Yorker. And assuming this is true, again, assuming that this is true, you know, that's that's what I think we all need to keep in mind here. It's possible that's not true, but it's probably true. Why is it that you didn't have this? I speak to you often about the mentality in the federal government that is statist in its inclinations and therefore favors Democrats and favors the system in general. So with all of that, why is it that we expect that there'll be these

kinds of leaks against Trump? More deep staters that are deciding to take a an opportunity to just put something out there in the news to take down Trump. Look at that that woman who what was gosh, she had to vary. Her name was like Victory Champion or something, right, what was her name? Reality Winner? I think it was is that was that her name? And look, my name is Buck Sexton, I know, but Reality Winners quite a name.

I think she didn't. She get five years in federal prison for leaking the classified information because she thought that it proved Russia collusion or something. I mean, people are hysterical inside the government, and they will abuse. These hysterical leftists inside the government will abuse their sensitive and classified access illegally as long as it hurts Trump or someone around Trump. You just did not have this during the

Obama years. Nobody was risking their freedom to try to damage Obama in the news cycle for a day or two, and nobody in the federal government was doing that. They just weren't. And of course Obama was horrible on leakers, as we know. He was the worst abuser of the Espionage Act in in American history and the most aggressive president in dealing with the in going after the press probably since FDR and Woodrow Wilson, so going on a hundred years. But the media, you know, they loved Obama.

He could do no wrong. So they weren't particularly they were they were strongly worded letter that's not very nice Obama, but they didn't do anything serious. They were they certainly weren't opposing the administration based on that. But this guy who is now charged with leaking the tax tax information about about Michael Cohen, You're you're going to see more of this. You We should all expect, I fully expect that someone is going to leak Trump's tax returns at

some point. It's just that they're waiting to see if the process, if now the Democrat Congress can get it. But if if they are stymied in this. If they're not able to leak Trump's tax returns, two things will happen. I think I'm making a prediction. I don't know. Somebody will just decide from within the IRS, from within the government, to violate their ethical and legal obligation to get Trump's tax returns out there. And what we will see is

a total nothing burger. It's gonna make the Mulla Report when it comes out look like you know, the Godfather series. I mean, it's just gonna be so boring. There's nothing in Trump's taxes that is worth anyone's time. I assure you. I think he doesn't want to give it out to the public right now, just because he doesn't want to, because they keep telling him he has to, and that's his Trump's way. But you're I think somebody is gonna

leak from within the IRS. Someone's gonna leak Trump's tax returns, that's my and the press is gonna say, oh, look at this, we just happen to have the tax returns. People are willing to risk prison to embarrass this president, and think about that, not to expose wrongdoing, to embarrass this president or anyone around him. That's how Trump's derangement syndrome has infected the federal bureaucracy. We'll be right back.

You might be wondering who is getting yelled at in this way and where are they're getting yelled at in that way? You know what neo Nazi was marching through a public square somewhere and people started understanding, Oh, it wasn't a neo Nazi. It was a conservative intellectual of Indian parentage and an immigrant to this country and a Dartmouth alum who was at Dartmouth College. Oh, Dartmouth students, it should be a shamby of yourself. I mean, these

college kids are there's such idiots. You know, the conservatives don't do the idiotic stuff. They just don't. And the numbers don't support this idea that everybody's liberal when they're like twenty every No, it's not true. It's just that there is a greater cultural acceptance among leftists to act like maniacs because they view the other side as immoral. They emotionalize all of these topics. They don't think that there is a good faith argument to be had with

the other side. You know that that's what's going on here. That's what's really happening. They just refuse to engage with the other side's ideas, and that denish Jasuza is getting heckled at his own school. I mean, you know, I can't. I can't get into this too much detail. But my own college used to like to invite me to speak Amherst haven't since I've become a conservative in the public eye. Nothing crickets, no interest in having me come to speak.

I was invited at least three times, maybe four times when I was in the CIA, come tell us about foreign policy book, and I did. I was happy too, at least once or twice. Now though my own school, my own alma mater, ashamed of my conservatism, no doubt, which is amazing because you think about the campus and there must be a healthy percentage of students who, even

if they won't tell anybody, are conservative. But they don't get to hear their views reflected back to them, or they don't even and for the liberal students, there's always a part of that feels kind of bad. I'm so much better at making liberal arguments than liberals are making conservative arguments. They don't even know, they're not even exposed

to it. The one good thing that our team has going for us, which is nice, is that we have to be able and to be a conservative on a campus these days, or to be a conservative in media, in academia, in law, in entertainment. You go down the line. If you're going to be conservative in any of those areas, you better be able to handle yourself and know the issues and be able to make the argument, because otherwise they're going to chew you up and spit you out.

Whereas liberals look at AOC, look at Okazy Cortez get you get to go through life and ignoramus with everyone patting you on the head telling you how smart you are when you're an idiot. Well, you don't know anything, but everybody around you likes the things that you say that you've learned to say, that you parrot from hearing other people say, most of whom, also, by the way, don't know anything. And it just becomes this big echo chamber of Oh, that's great. Whose streets are streets? Let's

fix climate change? Social justice now, yeah, all that stuff. You don't have to even know anything. Oh, it's just these things that people say, Oh, you know, the dark money in our politics, and what are we gonna do about Citizens United. I'm always amazed at how people in the media, never mind college kids, they'll bring up Citizens United and they don't know anything about it. I'll say to them, So you agree with Citizens United, You agree with the idea that a book because this is what

the government's position. This is what the government's position, the Obama administration's position was at the time. A book should be able to be banned, A book should be able to be banned in a sixty or nine any day window or whatever it was of an election, that that doesn't infringe on the First Amendment. You think that that's because that was the that was the government's position on that. No, that's not a good idea. Buck, oh okay, but a movie should be able to be banned. But buck corporate

money from overseas, that's all. They don't know what they're talking about. They say things about big money in politics and say, okay, so yeah, you know, the libertarian Koch Brothers give money to conservative causes, and there's a few others out there that are very wealthy who support conservatism. Why is that so strange? You know, there's sorrows, there's Tom Steyer. There's you know, all kinds of billionaires who come out and and support left wing causes. So what

is this idea? The left will say things like we need to take money out of politics, and then you'll say, well, what about all the money you get from X, Y and Z sources? What about the money you get from unions? From the union, Uh, that that doesn't count. That's not bad money, that's good money. Oh okay, I'm glad we've established that. So a really interesting chart. It's actually what got me thinking about all this. And it's from some kind of a study group I don't know. Unfortunately it's

cut off here. We've got shared with me today though, and it's that forty three percent. Sorry, Voters Study Group twenty eighteen. I obviously have to give you the source otherwise I'm just making up numbers. Voter Study Group twenty eighteen.

And it said that it did a did a big poll and says that forty three percent of Democrats versus seventy percent of Republicans think that people should be allowed to express unpopular opinions in public, you know, like Dnish Dasus at a college campus, even those that are deeply offensive.

A similar proportion of Democrats, by the way, openly support speech restrictions, so getting close to half of Democrats or sorry, forty percent of Democrats think that there should be speech restrictions, and only forty three percent of Democrats think that you should be able to express unpopular opinions in public. These

people are authoritarians. They because they haven't been exposed to those who disagree with them, because they just they slam on Fox News, they say, the Wall Street journalists, you know, garbage, and it's all but the rich plutocrats, and you know, every conservative website is just conspiracy theories. Because they create this false narrative for themselves. They never have to challenge

any of their assumptions. They never have to really know anything, which I would think would eventually start to feel kind of hollow, right, I mean, to just surround yourself with people who always agree with you. I mean, I work with Libs at the Hill, liberals because they're my colleagues. I work with liberals at the Hill. I have my whole life lived in the bluest of blue parts of the country Massachusetts, New York, Washington, d C. So I've had to deal with liberals all along. I know many

of you have had the same situation. Even if you haven't, you had to deal with it through the culture. You've had your assumptions challenge, You've seen Christianity being dumped on. You've seen Republicans and Trump and being treated terribly people that are pro life. The media thinks you're some kind of troglodyte. If your pro life, you know you've dealt

with all of this. Liberals don't have the intellectual resilience and honestly, the intellectual dexterity and fortitude to handle the ideas of the other side, not the same numbers that Republicans do. So we can take some comfort in that. I guess that's a good thing, and I do kind of wish in a sense that it would change. I wish Democrats would just get with the program a little bit here, but I Am not going to hold my

breath on that one. So this video goes viral, the mob attacks, and you would expect that the mainstream media would be responsible enough to pause, recognize their dealing with a student, investigate and make sure that they have the facts accurate, that the story that they tell is accurate. But they didn't pause when it came to Nicholas because they wanted to rush out, and they wanted to jump

into the mob. Give the mob a megaphone so that they could attack this boy because he was white, was Catholic, and he was wearing to make America great again. Cap think about what this young boy is having to deal with at age sixteen, when the entire world saw him the way the media portrayed him as literally the face of evil. It is inexcusable, reprehensible conduct by the media,

and Washington Post led the way. Amen. Great stuff from the attorney for Nicholas Salman, who is going after the Washington Post, and I hope he gets a big judgment against them. Few reasons why. First of all, Washington Post is a dumpster fire of liberalism. But start we can put that aside for the moment. How will this ever change unless there's accountability. You know, you'll notice this is

kind of a recurring theme right now. There must be accountability for libs, for social justice warriors, for oh I want to be a victim people, and for super aggressive left wing maniacs. There must be consequences when they break the law, when they slander people, when they destroy people, when they create a social media or real life in person mob to go after people. We can't let this stuff go. There is a an obleegation on us to enforce some norms of decency, some norms of honor and

integrity in our society. And I'm sorry that libs just throw all that stuff away and don't really care about it. You know, it's whatever gives them the advantage in the moment, whatever the political advantage is. But we are not going to just sit idly by and allow this stuff to happen. All right, We're not going to hand our country over to a bunch of left wing activists who think that they can destroy high school kids to make some kind

of political statement. It was disgusting, it was disgraceful, and just like what we saw with the Kavanaugh hearing, a lot of people who were paying attention to what happened with Covington Catholic, a lot of them recognized that the left wing mob is not just something that comes after people like me or you know, the people at the time of the conservative media ecosystem at Fox or you know,

It's not just people like us. It's anybody. If you find yourself in a circumstance where the left can capitalize off the destruction, the utter destruction of your reputation, your career, your livelihood. They'll go for it. Then the social media mob, let's it rip. And a lot of these journalists, what you see is that they think that they can just sort of do journalists had on, journalists had off. Oh I'm publishing in the Washington Post. Oh, I'm just tweeting

stuff out on Twitter. Sorry, doesn't work that way. Anything that you publish under your own name, anything you're right under your own name. When you're a public person, a journalist, somebody who is in the public eye, you must be held responsible for. And the Washington Post was responsible for a smear campaign a bunch of against a bunch of high school kids. You know, the same media, and you

know this is just it enrages me. The same media that complains about how, oh it's Trump has said, we're fake news and Trump is so mean to us, and why is Trump lay He's what he's doing is so dangerous. That same media apparatus doesn't expect that, or rather isn't willing to afford a bunch of high school kids not just a benefit of the doubt, but basic journalistic standards indecencies. So I hope that Sandman and his attorney, his attorneys are able to just flip the Washington Post upside down

and just empty out their pockets. I really do. I really do. Um there's there's more, by the way, because I think there's there's more lawsuits according to the Lord, that are going to be filed. I even know some of the people that are going to get sued, And I understand, you know, there there has to be consequences to this stuff. You can't just go out there. You know, why didn't I jump on that? I saw this story, I didn't jump on this bandwagon. Didn't seem right to me.

Something was up, not all the facts, too obvious that the media had constructed this narrative for their own purposes. I didn't fall Isn't it interesting? You know, you listen to conservative media. If you're listening to this show, you listen to a conservative who's got a syndicated radio show obviously across the country. But did I get Covington Catholic wrong? No? I did not. Did I get Jesse Smollett wrong? No? I did not. Did I get the BuzzFeed debacle right

before Covington Catholic wrong. Mmm, didn't buy that one either. Did I get Kavinall wrong? No? And I'm not pretending like I'm the only one. A lot of my fellow conservatives in the media saw these things for what they were as well. Not all of them were as vocal as I was. But why do I keep being right?

And the Washington Post with its you know, hundreds of millions of dollars of assets, and the New York Times was it with its thousand plus writers and editors and everything else, and C and N with its you know, it's gold plated toilet seats. I mean, you know, why can I figure this stuff out? But they can't? Does that ever? And when I say I, why is it that you can figure this stuff out? Too? And they can't?

You knew? If you didn't know, you wouldn't be listening to the show because what I said about Smaller would be so offensive, right, what I was saying about Cavana will be oh, you know, no, you know, And that's why you listen to me. But isn't it isn't it amazing that when you line up these these inre and don't even get me started on the Mueller probe and lack of collusion. I mean, obviously a lot of US

conservatives know that that's total bullcrap. But why is it that they're allowed to keep being wrong on these issues and yet their judgment, in fact, their judgment is supposed to exceed mine and yours. They are the smart people who know all the things, with all the editors and the fancy you know this, that the other thing in their offices, but they keep being wrong and they do real damage to normal people. There are hundreds of lawsuits

that are likely be filed Playlip five, certainly hundreds. The good news is is that we have two and a half years to identify and file lawsuits against the wrongdoers.

And we got a lot of work to do because the social media and mainstream mob of bullies was extremely large in number, and they were very vocal, and the mainstream media, like the Washington Post gave them a megaphone to go out and to shout to the world that this young boy had instigated this event which he did not, had engaged in behavior swarming around mister Phillips which he did not, had blocked mister phillips ability to leave the scene,

which he did not. He was a child. He was he was accosted by adults, accosted by adults, adults who I would note were acting horribly. And if you go back and you read that media coverage, there was no effort to be honest about this. The New York Times did a profile of the black Israelites, had referred to them as street preachers or something. I mean, it was a puff piece on a bunch of adults who say the most horrific racist, anti gay, you know, go go

down the line, anti white. Just these people are. They're scum. They're scum people, but the Times wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt. I wish I could just go into the newsrooms in these places and sit down and be like, who wants to debate this with me? Who wants to have this conversation? Oh? You know, we just we just do the news and in journals, and journalism is rotten in this country. Journalism needs to be rooted out and planted a new That's one of the

lessons of what we saw with Covington. So I'm very happy to see that there's going to be some legal action here. I don't know if they're going to be successful. I certainly hope they will be successful, but we can't. This is just like the Jesse smaller thing. You know, we are conservatives, we have lives, we are we are good, decent people that try to do the ethical thing, that like to show mercy and forgiveness, and but we can't just get slapped in the face all the time and

do nothing. We can't allow the system such as it is, to always undermine and destroy people like us. I'm sorry, you know, I'm not saying that we have some persecution complex and oh we know, woe is us whatever, But you see it happening from the media perspective, it's just reality. They are trying to destroy their political opponents however they can. They're trying to sell a certain kind of narrative to their largely delusional audience. Whether it's on Russia collusion, or

Covington or Kavanaugh or you name it. It's wrong. And I hope that there is some justice for Covington and in that for all the rest of us as well. A bunch of let that's right, just like you're damn Donald Truck. Look all these dusty crackers with that racist garbage. One. Look at these dirty cracks. Look at these dirty crackers. The Black Israelites said to the Cummington High School students, dirty crackers. Anybody anybody find that offensive? I wanted to

play this before we got into the break. I just got so caught up in the moment that I skipped over the clip dirty crackers. They said, that's remember, the Black Israelites are the people along with that guy um from forgetting his name now, the Native American activist guy. They were the ones and all of you're yelling his name because you remember, and I just blanked on it for a second, but they were the ones that the

media was siding with against the kids. You know that there really is this this deep seated disdain on the left for people that fall into certain categories. If you if you are a white kid who goes to a Catholic school, which I assume you have to pay, it's not a public school. A white kid goes to a Catholic school who supports Trump, they think you're the enemy.

And there's no, Oh, we're gonna give them a little bit of leeway because their kids and no, no no, because they're just gonna grow up to be big maga supporters later on, right, so they they figure might as well take care of them right now, might as well decide to ruin their lives as as quickly as possible. It's it's a troubling circumstance, to be sure, by the way.

I didn't want to skip over because obviously this is a major news story, and in what we have to find out more about the facts of the case, such as they are. But from what we understand right now, there was a plot that was stopped from a white nationalist who was trying to just trying to kill a whole bunch of people. He was in the I believe in the Coast Guard. Right, Yeah, here we go. I'm Drea. This is a from the guy I'm dreaming of a

way to kill almost every last person on earth. According to this Coastguard lieutenant and self identified white nationalist, Christopher Paul Hassan is his name, he wanted focused violence to establish a white homeland and said I'm dreaming of a

way to kill almost every last person on earth. The indictment of him says the defendant intends to murder innocent civilians on a scale rarely seen in this country, and they're holding him on Roman not letting him out, and he also bought a stash of steroids and narcotics, apparently to make it easier for him to sustain wounds, probably bullet wounds when he went on this spree. There are evil people of all kinds of ideologies and backgrounds, that

much is for sure. This is somebody who, assuming the facts that we have here are true and so far there's no reason to believe that they're not, should spend the rest of his life in prison, no question. I think it's it's interesting me also that you know he's somebody who he stockpiled all these weapons, that went through all these procedures. I'm wondering what the how they got him. I didn't see that today. I'm assuming they probably got an informant near him, but maybe they had something else

that tipped them off to it. But now you're going to get into this discussion. As always, this is where it always goes of. See, the real threat that we face is from white nationalist domestic terrorists, not Islamic radicals. This is what they always say. And to this I have to I have to always take a moment, take a beat, and say, okay, let's go, let's go over

this again. When a white nationalist decides to engage in an active mass murder, he, based on the history of this and cases in the past, overwhelmingly is acting on his own is acting based on a sense of perceived you know, heightened grieving, and is sociopathic or psychopathic. And it's a terrible event. We should stop them, and if we can't stop them, we should lock them up, or more than lock them up as soon as we catch them. Anybody who does this. But if you're going to compare

and this, I already saw this happening today. And you know, Corey Booker recently said, oh, the real threat in this country is from white nationalist terrorism. The moment you dig into it and you look at the numbers for the last twenty years, it is not even close. How many more people have been killed in this country by Islamic radical terrorism than any other form. It is not even close. How much more in terms of resources and security procedures. And you know we have a TSA not because of

white nationalists. We all know this. We've had to dramatically change and have changed US foreign policy, spent trillions of dollars overseas trying to root out Islamic radicalism, and when an Islamic radical acts in this country, they do so with a a belief that is supported by tens of millions of people around the world based on the numbers based on the Pew polling, and is often supported by entire nation states, places where there are millionaires and billionaires.

That's right, who will send money to these kinds of groups, you know. So it's just in terms of scale, sophistication and threat, it's not even close. Was this Coastguard lieutenant a serious threat, a real problem, and a just terrible human being? Yes, all of that is true. Is a good work by the FBI to take him down, Absolutely fantastic and they should be praised for this. Does this

mean that the real threat? If you're gonna ask me, as a former counter terrorism analyst, somebody actually did that for a living. It's the real threat now, white nationalism and not Islamic radicalism. No, that is fall The numbers do not support it. Nothing on a strategic global level supports it. So let's just understand what's real here and

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I understand that that's where they want to take this. That's going to be the overwhelming media effort around this issue, around the issue of Sanders candidacy. I'm here to just remind everybody that this is a guy who, as an adult. I'm not talking about going back in time and digging up old tweets or you know, talking about herebook photos or any anything like that. This is a guy who, as an adult and somebody was already in public life,

decided for the old tweets. I'm in for people that were teenagers then, which would not Bernie Sanders would not count in that. In that regard, Bernie Sanders is somebody who had a very clear sympathy with a system that had enslaved hundreds of millions of people around the world for decades, and a system that had created that had been propping up the Soviet Union and communism a true mortal threat to the United States and some of the

little satellites of that Soviet Communist menace. Bernie Sanders was quite fond of them. And we should, we should. You know, this is all fair game, folks. He was an adult, he spent time there. This is like when what's his name of, Deblasio Kasa Virham, Deblasio Warren or sorry, Warren Wilhelm build a Blasio, same guy, and when he went I think too, I think it was down to Nicaragua to hang out with the Sandinistas. I mean, these people

who do this stuff, think about that. Of all the places you go in the world, Bernie Sanders honeymoons in the Soviet Unions. That is an utterly bizarre thing to do, especially at a time when you remember the culture. I mean, hey, I saw Rocky four right, it was very clear who was on our team who was on their team. You're gonna go over to Sylviet Union to come back to the great great transportation and breadlines are wonderful because you're in the line and then when you wait for six

seven hours, the stale bread waiting for you free. This is disconcerting because I do think that Bernie is going to be, at least for a while, their front runner. They may have to switch somebody else out for Bernie as Moore comes out about him, and I do think people keep saying, well, Trump is I'm sorry, seventy two, who is not seventy seven? You know, he's even older. He's even more past the red line of being able to carry the presidency based on energy and the decision

making processes that do take it out on people. Play clip sixteen here this is burn. I remember, for some reason other being very excited when when Fidel Cashtro made the revolution in Cuba, and I was a kid, and I remember reading that and it was just seemed right inappropriate that poor people were rising up against rather ugly rich people. And I remember it again very distinctly, a very distinct feeling. I was watching the debates, you remember

the famous Nixon Kennedy debates. That was the first time in the presidential candidates actually debated, and I was becoming increasingly entrusted in politics. Didn't know much, but was interesting. I remember sitting in the student lounge at our dormitory watching the debate, and at that time we could talk about Cuban. Now, I was very excited and press play the Cuban Revolution. We should deal firmly with Fidel Cashtro and Nixon was playing the role of hey, you gotta

be patient. You know, you can't do these things. You gotta negotiate. What of course, what he was upset about is that secretly they were planning the Bay of Pigs invasion right then. So he he was the liberal and Kennedy was playing the conservative. And actually you know they're When you read novels, people say there's a sick feeling in yourself. Usually I'm sufficiently unemotional not to be sick, but actually got off in the room and almost left

the public. You can't criticize Cuba, or Bernie might puke on your shoes. That's that's a that's a conversation that some of my friends who are Cuban, who are true refugees by the way, from Cuba, people who had to flee. I know people that their families, lands and property were confiscated, that they were under under real threat of torture and imprisonment and even execution if they weren't able to get out of the country. And I wonder what Bernie would

say to those people. Well, we have some sense of it. In that clip he said, rising up against the ugly rich people. Why is it if if we're supposed to get Sweden, if the Democrats today, the Occasio Cortez is the Elizabeth Warrens. If the left wing socialist Democrats in America are promising Denmark for us, why do they still

have a sweet spot for Cuba? What is it about a country that imprisons people for their politics, imprisons and persecutes homosexuals, has executed political prisoners by the thousands, stretching back into the early days of Chegavara and the revolution in Cuba? Right, what is it about Cuba that still strikes this chord where there's some degree of fondness in the hearts of American democratic socialists. You know, why is it that the only people who look at Venezuela and think, WHOA,

Let's not get too involved there. Let's not even send food to starving people. I'm not talking about military force. Let's not even send humanitarian aid. We should because that will obviously make the regime look bad. If America has to feed the people, right, and that's going to help push this coup along they call it. I mean, the

last election was a farce. Maduro cheated. We're supposed to believe at institutions, We're supposed to believe that you can't cheat and get away with it, at least in this country. But in Venezuela they'll say, oh no, that's that's just how they were doing things there. Maduro he had to play a little dirty, but he's still the president. The only people that come to Maduro's aid in this country are the leftist socialists. Why you know, I think it's

worth asking these questions. It's one thing to say I love Sweden, I love Denmark. I want America to be like those countries. Right If Bernie wants to be the mayor of Stockholm and sit in the White House when he does it, that's that's one thing. But you'll notice that when it comes to Nicaragua, when it comes to what's happened in Venezuela and now for decades with Cuba, the left in this country has a fondness for those for those nations. And I don't mean for the people,

I mean for the regimes, for the governing systems. I'm sorry, but to be able to go back and to hear somebody like Bernie Sanders praising the Soviet Union, openly longing for the days of Cuba's revolution against the quote ugly rich people. Why why should we think that his mentality has really changed that much. Because he's old now and a little cookier. It seems a little a little more like the like the crazy grandpa that you gotta make sure it doesn't wander out into the snow in his underwear.

I mean, what is it about Bernie Sanders? Now, that's so he's talking about free healthcare, he's talking about soaking the rich with taxes. What qualifies as rich? By the way, that's always a This is like when people say, do you believe in climate change? And this is a nonsense question because even if I do, what do we do about it? And how much climate change? How much climate change am I supposed to be worried about? Here? To

what degree? When you say that you're only going to tax the rich, which Occasio Cortez and Warren and name a Democrat who's not an establishment kind of Wall Street Hollywood friendly. Although Hollywood is actually very behind Bernie Sanders. There's a lot of big money in Hollywood that likes Bernie Sanders, but they all want to tax the rich more in order to fund these enormously expensive social programs. And so I do think we should ask the question. Okay,

so given that reality what makes somebody rich? Are we really going to walk around and pretend that somebody who makes twenty million dollars is the same financial footage as somebody who makes two hundred thousand dollars. And how do we pay for all these programs that they talk about?

When if you took every dollar that is made by people over ten million a year in this country, you just seized all of it, you wouldn't be able to fund the stuff that these democrats are talking about because there aren't that many people who make that much money. The money is in the middle class. The money is in folks who are just showing up, doing jobs, paying their bills, and doing things the right way. And when I mean the money from a from a taxation perspective,

that's where it really really moves the needle. So what they'll try to do, what Sanders is going to do is one tell us that it's not fair to point to Venezuela. It's not fair to point to Cuba and say that's socialism for you. This is where socialism leads because look at these European countries. And he's going to hope that people don't pay attention to one the the bureaucracy in those European countries. That would be like trying to make socialism work in you know, Rhode Island or Maine.

All right, it's not making it work in a country of three hundred and twenty million people start start with that, and we're talking about countries like Denmark and Sweden. These are these are the size of a US state, one US state, and not even the biggest ones. So he's hoping that people don't pay attention to the scope and scale of the projects that he's really talking about. And he doesn't want to dig into the fondness that the left has for all of these socialist regimes, which just

keeps coming up. Right, they there were New York Times articles praising Venezuela in twenty twelve. Maybe they're gonna make this whole thing work. And I think that in an era when we're told that there's somebody who might be doing Russia's interest, right, Trump is he's Putin's puppet, and all this stuff is Sanders a communist puppet because he used to like communism a lot. Now he says socialism. But if you were going to get a communist to

be the president the United states. Wouldn't he have to say that he was a democratic socialist first? I think it's fair to ask the question. AARP is a very well known organization for seniors, but if you dig a little deeper, you find out that aarps pretty left wing. They support things like government run healthcare, They are not strong on our southern border. They want higher taxes for

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strong military. You need to check out AMAC. Join right now at AMAC dot us slash buck. That's AMAC dot us slash buck. I know that everyone's focused on a hoax hate crime today, but turns out there are in fact real hate crimes out there, as you no doubt already no, but they're not always against individuals who are in a protected group. It's not always the intersectional left that is somehow being attacked. Sometimes just being a conservative can get you punched in the face. We have Benny

Johnson with us now. Benny is the creative director at Turning Point USA, formerly of The Daily Caller, also a colleague of mine from the Blaze days. Mister Johnson, great to have you on. Hey, thanks, Buck, appreciate it. So you have this video you've been sharing of, Well, tell us what happened first, then we'll actually play the audio. I wish people could see it because it's vicious, But tell us what happened. Sure. So Turning Point is a

young conservative engagement organization, nonprofit. We make sure that conservatives across the country and on campuses all over the country all have opportunity and access to free market ideas and free market content. And so one of our one of our students, member of our organization, was on the campus of UC Berkeley in California, a particularly liberal campus, and was merely tabling. It's something that happens normally on a

college campus. You share material and ideas. This is just a free speech ideas and zone and a angry leftist of whom we do not know the identity of just yet and cannot confirm if they were an actual student at Berkeley. But an angry leftist came up and assaulted, committed a violent act against one of our students, punched him in the face, cause quite a bit of damage. Um,

and it's a horrific, horrific violent act. Now, Benny, we're gonna play the audio from this play at John Jesus Clay what oh so a lot of profanity here, because what's happening is you got the Turning Point USA kid, and you go to Benny Johnson's Twitter account and you can see it. He's he's been sharing it. You got

a guy from Turning Point. He's just trying to get get young conservatives to sign up, and some considerably larger dude comes along, clearly and deranged leftist assaults him and then land's a really nasty punch right right in the kid's face. Benny, how's he doing, by the way, and how's he how's the young man who was attacked reacting into this? Yeah, it's it's bad. We're keeping his identity, is making sure that he is safe right now. But I've seen photos of the injury. It's a very very

bad injury. It was a very very bad punch. And this is again on a college campus. And the victim here, who's a victim of a politically inspired hate crime. You have to call it that. That is exactly what this is. He's being targeted for his personal beliefs. This is a hate crime. This victim was merely saying that he is a conservative and being a mouthpiece for some conservative ideas on the campus of Berkeley. That is all of the information we know right now. This is not a fight,

This was on instigation. This was not a violent riot. This was just a young conservative saying something conservative on a college campus. And what does he get for it? Pulled off and punched in the face to the point of a horrific personal injury. It's really bad by Berkeley right now. Buck is actually asking for any information to identify who committed the violent act, they said in a

statement just released now, but they strongly condemned this. And then Berkeley is a campus that believes in commitment in freedom of expression, So we afford to working with the authorities and bringing justice to this hate crime. For this hate crime against political opinion. I remember when the coxin on my crew team in college, who was a very small guy. Because coxins have to be because of the

weight in the boat. It's important you get somebody who's and oftentimes it's actually have female coxin on an all male crew team. But I remember he got he got debt by a person he had never talked to and had never met at a party on campus. It's a good thing I wasn't there. He was a good friend of mine and I would have had to take matters into my own hands. But he got decked out, broke his glasses, gave him a black guy. And it's just I bring this up, Benny, because I cannot. I mean,

that's a personal experience. You're now spreading what happened here on UC Berkeley. I can't think of an instance where a conservative student has walked up to a crazy lib on campus, which obviously there are tons of them, and punched one of them in the face. I can rattle off lots of instances of people who were punched for

being conservatives. Yes, at turning point, we are actually producing right now a long video that shows the instances of violence, just the notable instances of violence over the last two years from the left there are major instances that made national news. For instance, the young Maga hat wearing kid who was just a teenager at a water burger had

his hat taken soda thrown in his face. A pro life supporter in Canada had her phone kicked and herself like kicked across the face by a pro choice activist. And then just dozens and dozens and dozens of Antifa incidence of Antifa islands that cause major injury, major damage to businesses and to the public sector. And a lot of this violence is directed at police, a lot of

this violence is directed at at the authorities. It's it is absolutely impossible to make the case that there is that there's an equitable level of violence between the right and the left. The left has an enormous amount of incidence of violence against innocent people generally hate crimes because of political opinion. Benny, Where can people go to see the work you're doing a turning point and also to follow up on this story. Yeah, so I'm going to be I'm going to be on Twitter very active about

this in the next twenty four hours. Is things develop, we are going to be looking into pursuing all actions in order to defend our campus representative. And as of right now, what we're looking at bucks to bring justice and identify who the person was that committed hate crime, the committed this act of hate political hate crime, and so they can go to Turning Point USA on social media, maybe go to Benny Johnson on Twitter. All right, Benny, stay on this one man, and thank you so much

for calling in. Good to talk to you. Thank you. Buck. Team will be right back. Such a bunch of snowflakes in the mainstream media. I mentioned this yesterday. Sarah is Gert somebody whom I know, and in fact, those of you who used to watch real News back in the day, we'll remember Sarah had shorter hair, perhaps a slightly different personal style, but she was a not frequent but she

had multiple appearances on real News. On the Blaze TV, which was the best obviously other than Glenn Show for those of you who are glennback fans, was the best show ever to be in my opinion, on the Blaze TV, which was Real News. That panel turned out to be a young conservative all star panel, just not everybody knew

it at the time. But we've all gone off to do bigger things in the media sphere anyway, Sarah Sarah Izger is getting all kinds of heat and hate from the left because she has worked for Republicans and now she's in a position of being an editorial editorial position in the CNN newsroom going into twenty twenty, and they are freaking out. In fact, the DNC bunch of cry babies over there, they're freaking out. Two. The Democratic National

Committee has sought and received assurances from CNN. This is from The Daily Beast today that the network's new politics editor, Sarah Izger, will not be involved in the debates that

the channel hosts and moderates for the Democratic Party. The assurances were provided after the Committee express reservations to CNN over Iger's history in Republican politics, and after officials at the committee raised concerns over her alleged connections to a now retracted Fox News story on the debunked Seth Rich conspiracy theory. Guys, this is pathetic, But this really shows you who the mainstream media is. What a bunch of whiny,

delusional cry babies they are. Oh, I'm sorry, Candy Crowley is a nonpartisan debate moderator. Remember or who did call it a terrorist attack during the Romney Obama debate, remember that, or mister Robin who did call it a terror You know? Nope, sorry, Candy, he did not. Obama did not call it terrorist attack. But you know, fake Tapper, what about him? Guy worked for a Democrat congressional aspirant and even worse than my view, was part of the organization that became the Brady Campaign

to end gun violence. That's right for an anti group. Oh yeah, he's so nonpartisan. George Stephanopolis was a Clinton White House aide and he's one of the most revered anchors in mainstream media. I mean, it's sold. These people are full of it. That's why they have to hide their little pampered anchors from having to have these discussions in places where they can't control how much time, who's there, who's showing up when they go to commercial. They'll never

do it. They will never do it. The mainstream media knows that there their days are numbered with at least the the patina, the veneer of journalistic integrity that they've been clinging to for all these decades. That they know that their their time I think is coming to an end. And I read this a very interesting producer Mike actually flagged it from me, this interview with Barry Diller. Some

of you might know Barry Diller. He was ahead of I forget Paramount Studios, I think or one of the big Hollywood studios then was He's He's been head of IAC, he was on the board of the Washington Post. He's a big mover and shaker in the media world. Help found Expedia. I think or was involved early on with Expedia. Anyway, he's tender. You know, hey, swipe left, swipe swipe right.

You can thank Barry Diller. He was just saying how it used to be the in this interview that the Hollywood studios were the biggest thing, and the network television got kind of bought up by the studios. But it was all part of this system. Right now, the system has changed. Now the big kids on the block are Google, Amazon, Facebook. Now Silicon Valley has more control over the content funnels than anything than anything else in the whole game. So

this is all shifting. And that's why I'm trying to tell you early on that the Netflix is and the Amazons and the you know, these entities are going to give the left and even greater leg up than they've had in the past, unless we start to hold them to account for their biases and also consider, you know, alternative means of well, alternative platforms. Quite honestly, you know, nobody wants to believe this, but you know, Twitter bands conservatives.

It does not ban liberals unless they're making death threats, and even then it rarely bans them. Nobody believes it, but it's true anyway that the DNC is so scared, like a bunch of little shivering snowflakes, that they can have Sarah Izger go work at CNN. I mean, I like Sarah. She's a nice lady. Kind of feel bad that she's going to be in the lions Den over there because she's gonna find out real soon not a

good place, not an honest organization. And there's some good people there, but a lot of bad people, and the bad people are the ones running things. Now. The show ain't over yet, folks, keeping it real, It's time for roll call. That's one of my favorite role call indrows of all the ones we do. Quick note for next week. Some of you are probably familiar with SEPACK, the Conservative

Political Action Conference. It happens annually in Washington, d C. Well, this will be the first year that I make an appearance at Sepack. I will be as of now at least debating the issue of Syria withdrawal on the main stage at Sepack eight thirty am a week from tomorrow. So that is, let me get the calendar out here. February twenty no March first, March first. Forget about February

March first at eight thirty am at Sea Pack. So if you're planning on going to Seapack, if you're in the DC area, definitely look look out for me on Friday. I might pop into support some of my buddies who will be giving speeches as well in those days, and I think the debate over the Syria situation will be very interesting. So if you can show up for that, please do and look for me at Sea Pack. I want to see some members of the team, especially those

of you who are Team Buck Campus Squad. All right now, with that little bit of necessary self promotion, Joe Facebook dot com slash Buck Sexton. To get in on this, Joe writes, you must watch Firebirds Shields High from Oss. Joe, Joe, I am not familiar with this fire John do you know fire birds. I know not. I know not the Firebirds, so i'd have to I don't even I know. It's a car that I think used to be kind of

like a badass American car driving a firebird. Yeah, it's kind of like a is a Firebird kind of like a poor man's Mustang? Or is a Mustang kind of like a poor man's Firebird. I don't know. It's one or the other. And some of the people that actually know cars in this audience are are just yelling at the at the radio right now. They are. They should be discussed with me that I don't know the difference. It's it's a fair point, Jim writes. Role call okay, Jim,

We'll hear. The continuing hate crime conspiracy continues after the indictment of Jussie. He orchestrated the hoax and the regressive media, the propaganda arm of the Democrat Party accomplices now take offense at being outrage that it affects black at being caught, rather being outraged that it affects blacks and gays, never mentioning the hate crime of false accusations against white people, Trump supporters and and others. The real enemy here are the liars in the media, and until we have a

constitution loving network, we won't make real progress. Fox is not the solution with the boys running the show, allowing Shep and others to remain. So you're saying that what does accomplice not take offense at being caught being outraged? Never mentioned the hate crime of false accusations against white people. I mean, yeah, we've been talking about the Smallet hoax here all along. It really is a hate crime against Trump supporters. The hoax is a hate crime against Trump supporters.

Brian writes, don't stop your astute analogies because a particular dislike a particular listener dislikes them. Brother, your analogies are ammo for many of us to win obvious discussions with our liberal friends. All right, Brian, I like it. We will keep some of the analogies going. I'll just try to keep them at a high level. So it's important to keep the analogies good, and that much I think we can do. Michael writes, the reason we knew it was a hoax from the beginning is because we know

how absurd it sounded, and it sounds over the top absurd. However, to the left who think hate crimes are on the rise. It was on a par with the fantasy that they think is going on in this country. Are the lives actually delusional or are they lying about it to gain power? Michael, very important question. I would note that the hate crimes are on the rise is a talking point that is never able to on the rise and on what time frame? What kind of hate crimes? What a degree of hate crime?

Talking about people that say something mean to somebody in a protected group. Are we talking about an actual crime? This is a talking point kind of like walls don't work that the moment you dig into it, you find out that's kind of a dumb talking point, isn't It doesn't really mean anything. Hate crimes are on the rise in the last thirty days, in the last year, sixty years, ten years. I've dug into hate crimes as listed by the FBI, and first of all, a lot of what

are considered hate crimes aren't really crimes. A lot of them, about twenty or thirty percent, are in the category of verbal harassment or some form of vandalism, which is a crime, but is not something that usually you know, it's not the property damage that people are so upset about. Usually it's the message. So this thing you hear from people better, well, hate crimes are on the rise. They said that hate crimes were on the rise during all of the Obama administration,

that hate crimes are on the rise. After every major Islamic terrorist attack in this country. I keep hearing about a hate crimes are on the rise, and then I look at the statistics and it doesn't bear it out. Hate hoaxes, I would argue, are definitely on the rise. So there's that, Lisa buck in the vein of the transgenders in sports thing. I still wonder why the feminist left is forcing us to choose men over women. Isn't

that completely counterintuitive to their ideology? Their identity politics will end up destroying them from the inside once they actually think about what they are pushing. You can't have both female empowerment and then let men compete against them. Shields higher, Lisa, It's true. I think that the feminist movement in this country has gone so far left that it is willing to sell out women, which is an amazing state of affairs.

But that's what's going on here, and what does it mean to be a woman if a man can, purely based on psychology, claim to be a woman, and everyone, under pain of social ostracism and maybe even government sanction, everyone is now supposed to say, yes, that's a woman. What does that really mean? What does that really tell us? The feminist left has no answers to this, They just simply don't Steve Rights, Heybuck love the show as usual. Steve,

the show loves you as usual. Listening to the podcast from yesterday, especially on the Navratilova dismissal from the LGBTQ community, and just wanted to note that Martine competed versus Renee Richards, a transgendered male to female athlete who was allowed by the New York Supreme Court to compete in women's tennis played from nineteen seventy seven to eighty one with I believe no titles and coach navratilover to two Wimberland titles

after eighty one. So maybe Martinez speaks with some confidence on the issue, just saying shields way high. Well, thank you, Steve. Now, there are some sports where brute strength and speed and physicality are going to be an enormous advantage. Tennis, it's an advantage but it's not quite the advantage that it would be in say, track and field, boxing, MMA, football. You know, you go down the list, basketball even you know, there's less physicality in tennis, and so you have to

be at a certain skill level. You know, you could take the strongest man in the world, I mean, actually the strongest man in the world, like the guy who plays the mountain on Game of Thrones, and put him on a tennis court and a decent high school female tennis player. I'm sure we'll kick his butt, right because but if you put that same guy in an MMA ring with any woman in the world, he's going to win by a lot and it would be terrible and

scary and the whole thing would be awful. But that's the difference I think that we need to keep in mind. Not all sports are the same when it comes to the strength and speed advantage. Next, here we have George, who writes buck so glad to see your smiling, rational, intelligent mug on the news panels Shields High. Well, George, thank you so much. Man. I'm not even sure what panel I was on Reason Oh, that's right, I was on Fox on Shannon Bream Show. For those of you

who like to know these things. Shannon Bream is one of the nicest people you'll ever meet. I don't really mean that, and I know that she probably is not going to hear this show, So this isn't I'm not

kissing up. I just I like to tell you who's nice and who's mean in media, so that when you can make these choices, when you're flipping through the channels, you're like, not only is a good show, I know this is a nice person because Buck would never never tell me otherwise or never you know, lead me astray on this, Sean, Right, Buck, I love your tangential history,

deep dives, and movie talk. I believe it to be beneficial to any audience that invest time with a talk show host to occasionally get a personality perspective outside the normal daily grind. Rush does it too, Oss, Thank you, Sean. Well, if Rush does it, the Wayne Gretzky of radio, the Lebron James of radio, perhaps to be the Zion. What's that guy's name he's supposed to be like the best,

like the new Lebron, the Zion. I can't remember his last name, who apparently just hurt his foot, but anyway, Yeah, if Rush does it, what's got to be good. So I'm glad that you enjoy a little bit of a peek behind the personal curtain here. And I really do feel a sense of connection to everybody who listens to

this show, like we know each other. This is why I can always tell when people who are familiar with me, this doesn't happen like it doesn't happen a lot of months of Oh I I walk into the mall and everybody says hello. No, it's not that at all. But people who sometimes watching a Fox or enough you used to watch enough CNN that they know who I am. They see me and they're like, oh, you know, there's that person I've seen on TV. When I see somebody from Team Buck and they see me on the street,

we got a handshake, high five, or hug. It's one of the three. Always, you know, we gotta stop and talk and chat because it's it's just a different feeling when you really spend time with somebody on radio. I mean, radio is a tribe. Everybody who listens to this show is, at least for the time they're listening, I mean, they're they're part of we are part of a tribe. And it's fun when you get to see people who are in that you know are in that mix. I can

always tell. So that's going to be it for today in the Freedom Hut, my friends, we do have a fantastic show plan for you tomorrow. So with that, I bid you adieu and I wish you shield tie