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hear from you. My favorite part of the show is hearing from you. So the telephone number market down is eight four four nine zero zero Buck. That's eight four four nine zero zero two eight two five. We've got a great show lined up for you today. I want to talk about the the latest stories coming out about Google and their lies. I'll talk a little bit about

the latest with Alexander Accascio Cortez as well. Of course, we'll be focusing in a large part on the shutdown, which is dominating the minds of the media at the moment, and we're going to get into why specifically the media needs to keep pumping up this shutdown. CNN obviously carrying a shutdown clock live on the side of the screen there. I'm not sure how many of you actually watch the NN anymore, but for those of you that don't, that's

what they're doing. I'm talking about the March for Life which is coming up as well as well as that Gillette, advertisement want to hear from all of you guys about that, And if you haven't heard about it, well, we'll get into it with my good buddy Terry Shilling in the

next hour as well. But for now, I want to I want to ask you guys the question, who would have thought that a conservative journalist hopping her house's border wall and erecting a caravan on her lawn would only be the second greatest troll that Nancy Pelosi was on the receiving end of this week. Yes, that's right. You may have seen the images and footage of the conservative independent journalist Laura Luma highlighting the new Speaker of the

House is hypocrisy over the past few days. She has a wall on her house and you're not allowed to go into her house. But that pales in comparison to what happened between Miss Pelosi and the President of the United States Donald Trump today. Due to jet out of town on a military plane earlier on to Brussels, Egypt,

and extends Afghanistan. Miss Pelosi and her Democratic delegation were grounded by President Trump following her own petulant attempts to stop him addressing the nation in a State of the Union address in just a few weeks. Yes, Miss Pelosi, if you want to be childish, if you want to play politics with the apparatus of the state, two can play that game. It seems. A terse and frankly hilarious letter was sent out by the White House today for

Nancy's attention. I'll read it to you now, Dear Madam Speaker. Due to the government shutdown, I am sorry to inform you that your trip to Brussels, Egypt, and Afghanistan has been postponed. We will reschedule this seven day excursion when the shutdown is over. In light of the eight hundred thousand Great American workers not receiving pay, I'm sure you would agree that postponing this public relations event is totally appropriate.

I also feel that during this period it would be better if you were in Washington negotiating with me and joining the strong Board security movement to end the shutdown. Obviously, if you would like to make your journey by flying commercial, that would certainly be your prerogative. I look forward to seeing you soon, and even more forward to watching our open and dangerous southern border finally receive the attention, funding, and security it so desperately deserves. Sincerely, Donald J. Trump.

That is some top level trolling from the President, But as with most things he does, whether or not you see it or whether or not you get it, it had a meaning a message to it. No, Miss Pelosi, you may not grandstand on this shutdown while refusing to

negotiate and hot footing it out of the country. And no, Miss Pelosi, just days after your Democrat buddies returned from sunning themselves on the beaches of Puerto Rico at the behest of lobbyists, you may not use the military to travel around the world, no doubt wishing to grandstand there as well. In other words, not so much you're fired as you're grounded. Of course, President Trump offered Miss Pelosi the chance to fly commercial for her trips. We'll see

if she takes them up on that. But what is effectively turning to a tip for tat between the two biggest political figures in the country right now was only finally called childish when it came to CNN analyzing the President's moves today. Now we know that historically the President of the United States isn't actually obliged to perform a State of the Union life from the US Congress. He could simply send a letter or a video or perhaps

a series of tweets. But Miss Pelosi's attempts to stop the President addressing the nation from the pulpit of the legislature, you drew no such ire from CNN, though that was reserved purely for President Trump. Let's play clip nine if we can well, our nation's capital has officially become a playground Brook. The President has responded in sort of a

childish way, is the only way to describe it. To the House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to her letter, essentially saying that the say the Union will be postponed or she asked that to be submitted in writing if the government is still shut down. This is the letter right here from the President. The Press Secretary Sarah Sanders, I guess, in lieu of having actual briefings here at the White House, just tweeted this out it, says Madam Speaker, due to the shutdown, I am sorry to inform you that your

trip to Brussels, Egypt, and Afghanistan has been postponed. We will reschedule this seven day excursion when the shutdown is over and lighted the eight hundred thousand great American workers not receiving pay. I'm sure you would agree that postponing this public relations event is totally appropriating childish, says Jim Acosta. I think I agree more with Senator rand Pool on this. On let's play clip four. I think that's a real

affront to the American people. And what I would suggest is that Sarah McConnell's in charge of the Senate, let's host it in the Senate. If this will be the first time in history that the House would deny a president the forum of speaking. If she's going to do that, let's hold it in the set. So where do you stand on all of this? A new pole shows, for whatever those are worth, that the President is actually losing some support from his base over this shutdown? Is that accurate?

Is that fair? Are you one of those people I want to hear from you? Eight four four nine hundred two eight two five, eight four four nine hundred buck or do you think all is fair in love and Wall? Yes, I said wool as in border Wall eight four four nine hundred two eight two five is the number either way.

One thing I found particularly intriguing is that in the same parts you know, they've been pumping them out all week, only about twenty four percent of Americans say that they've been affected or had a family member affected by the shutdown. Could the Democrats be shooting themselves in the foot here in a much larger sense than just the tactics surrounding

this particular shutdown. Could they be proving the I guess hard line libertarians right the ron Poles who have been saying for decades that government is bloated, far too big, and pointing to plenty of evidence to back that up along the way, showing that government is too large. That's what the Democrats are doing here, and that hardly anyone notices when it is shut down, apart from the government workers,

many of whom are apparently extraneous. You know, I've spoken to a lot of people in this administration over the last couple of weeks, in departments all across Washington, DC, and they tell me they're actually finding that the staff that are in attendance, you know, the workers that are needed to keep the department sticking over, are actually finding it easier to work and getting more done because they're not being stopped, thwarted, frustrated by careers, people who have

made their careers in government, people who do not back this administration, people who are there for the sake of a job rather than there for the sake of the service, and certainly not for the sake of doing the administration any favors. That's what I'm being told, and there was a very interesting article along those lines in the Daily Caller this week as well. But those are just my views. Again,

I want to hear from you. Eight four four nine hundred buc okay eight four nine hundred two eight two five. We're gonna go to a quick break now. When we come back, Alan Bakari, the tech editor of Breitbart dot Com, will be joining us to talk about the latest stories Visivie Google. It's fascinating stuff. You've got to hear what these guys are doing and more importantly, how they're miss leading. It seems. More importantly, I want to get to your calls as well, so make sure you get on the lines.

This is the buck Sexton Show. I'm Raheemcassam will be right back. Welcome back to the buck Sexton Show. My name is rahemcasan guest hosting live from the Freedom Height and Washington, DC. I love that the call boards are lighting up already. Just hang there a moment. We've got Alan Bacari on the line, the tech editor for Breitbart dot Com. Alum, good evening to you. A going to be very very well. Where where in the world are you right now? Alam? I'm partly in London. Thank you

for joining us so late in the evening. There not at all, Alam, So walk us through these phenomenal Google exclusives that you guys have been breaking over the past couple of days. Um, you you have. You have effectively found that Google, the Google CEO, has been telling FIBs perhaps over what he told Congress regarding the company's intervention in search results. Is that right? Well, what sum up I told Congress under oath last month was that Google

does not manually intervene on any search result. What I found thanks to a leak discussion for it from inside Google that was passing me from a source inside of the company that we published yesterday and Bright Art News is that Google does regularly engage in manual interventions on most of its platforms in including Google Assistant, Google Home, occasionally, It's main organic search engine, and also YouTube. What we found was that YouTube actually adjusted search results for, among

other things, abortion and abortions. When you search for those terms on YouTube. Now what will pop up is a bunch of left win propaganda, essentially from buzz seeds from the John Oliver Show from CNN, and those are all verified, handpicked sorces by Google. And one of BS sources leaked to us a message which showed that Google made an adjustment to a fire to a blacklist file that it

keeps on controversial YouTube search terms. So whenever it wants to promote the mainstream media the file left media in a certain search result, they will add a first term to this blacklist file. And the result of that change was that numerous pro life videos which previously featured in the top ten search results for abortion on YouTube disappeared from the top ten. Even more incredible is the circumstances

under which that happened. The change was made to the internal fire that adjusted the search results a few hours after a Slate journalists got in touch with Google's press tin to complain about the prominence of pro life videos. So Google actually did this in response to a lesson why the complain there there's too much pro life content in the search results on YouTube. Wow, there's a lot

to unpack there. And there's there's a whole load of these blacklist search terms that appear in your article, which is entitled for those who are looking for it, the

Smoking Gun. Google manipulated YouTube searches for abortion. Maxine Waters and David Hogu tell us a little bit about the other search terms and what has been you know, effectively covered up or or you know, buried by Google across their platforms, and then talk to us a little bit, alum about the implications of this for Google and specifically the Google CEO. I mean, if he was lying to Congress,

let's say, that's a pretty big deal, isn't it. It certainly is a big deal, aren't By the way that that quote the smoking gun that we have in their headline, those aren't my words. That's what a Google employee said about the company adjusting a search resolves. It was in the leag message past to us Google's own employees. They're calling as a smoking gun and like as as you said, there are a whole number of other search terms that we released as part of the league. So they also

adjusted search terms for Maxine Waters, the Democratic congresswoman. They adjusted search terms for David Hoggy, progressive anti gun activist. They're adjusting search terms, ways did and another post in the thread. So it isn't just on YouTube. Google about has huge teams. Those are the words of Google employee.

Huge teams moderating search and Google Home, Google Assistant and organic, Google Search resolves and super According to his post, sometimes that involves training automatic classified for algorithms that will automatically moderate the results. And sometimes it will just involve like a manual action just going in and changing them. And said they do that on search terms that are prone

to a hyperbolic and controversial and offensive concept. Obosina, I'm not entirely I'm not a tour confidant in how Google defines those terms hyperbolic, controversial, offensive. You know, the far less company in Silicon Valley, They're going to define those terms very very broadly. The implications, Yeah, it talk to us about pahi and what it means. Yeah, in terms

of the implications, you know, I'm hesitant. I'm not a legal expert, so I'm hesitant to say this, you know there's something some crime committed here because you know, I don't have the legal knowledge about myself. I'm just a journalist. But you know, Senator Josh Holly asked the person on Twitter yesterday, is this persury? I mean, that's it's certainly, you know, regardless of what it is or it isn't,

it certainly looks bad. And that's that's a question. That a new senator is coming in the former County General of Missouri, so well, I mean, hold on, alum, I this seems like a pretty big deal. And I've been through this story and I've looked at your sourcing and I've looked at them, the quotes and the links and all of the comments and things that you've taken out of the out of the blacklist. It all checks out. I've got a pretty keen eye for these things, having

been an editor for many years. Why am I only seeing when I Google this? Why am I only seeing this story on bright bar and the Daily Mail? Where where is the coverage in all the tech mags, the tech blogs. Where is the coverage on the mainstream news, Well, I mean the tech blogs. I mean they're essentially pr for Silicon Valley at this point. You know, Silicon Valley companies, you know, do a great deal to win their favor. I think the headline at Diverge yesterday was a story

about epexe. This has happened before, we ep yes, like online pet that right, the big story at the left wind texture outlet. I think the same deal with Past Technica, Rico Tech Club, all these all these outs that are supposedly there to hold Silicon Bag to accounts, but are really just ignoring any wrongdoing that their engage in at the moment, and that's happened before and other Google stories.

We relieve they just don't care. And you know, I think it's partly because you know, they're in bed with the tech cameralis there's off partly because they agree with censorship, they agree with blacklisting. You know, these duds are all leftling journalists. In fact that they have any criticism of Silicon Valley, of any of big tank it's usually that they're not censoring enough. Normally the headlines are you know, Why is an Alex Journ's band? Why Why isn't this

all that conservative commentator band yet? That's that's the agenda of the left wing tech press and those of the maintor immediate as well. Alum, we've got about thirty seconds to go here. Just just walk us through why this is important. Do a little reset for us. Why should we be paying attention to the tech sector? Well, Google, for which is what the story is about. Is you know, the most biggest search engine on the Internet doesn't really

have a competitor. And if Google starts, you know, link with elections and fiddling with politics, they can have a massive impact on voters and the outcomes of elections without us even noticing. Because there's no paper trail, there's no there's no other sight, and there's nothing we're to keep these companies in check or even know when they're doing what I'm doing. It's extraordinary. Staff, Alam, Just tell people where they can find more of this work from you. Yeah,

you can find all my articles at brightbat dot com. Right, but Patty can form me on Twitter at Libertarian Blue. Thank you, Alan Bakari. This is the Buck Sexton Show. I'm Raheem Kassam, stay on the lines one your calls after this short break. Welcome back to the Buck Sexton Show. I'm Rahem Casalm here in the Freedom Hut in Washington, DC. Coming to you guys on the phone lines now eight four four nine hundred Buck eight four four nine hundred

two eight two five. I'm going to take your calls all throughout the show, right up until nine p m. Eastern Line one. Bill is in West by God, Virginia. Bill. Are you with us? Yes, sir? Hey you doing that? Bill? Thank you? Hey? This shotgun could end really quickly if these union members you know of the the government union that if they get ahold of their government or their their leaders, are union leaders to go to Congress because Congress probably owes these the unions a deal for supporting

them and the elections of Hit and Toll. Hey, we want to be paid, you know, tell Congress, well, you guys are being paid, why not us? How quickly do you think that would that would speak things along? Bill? I think it would be quicker than anything. And there's the Congress and the union leaders are using their membership as paused in that there there's just cheff in the heck out of their members. How long has it been Bill since since labor unions? I mean, I'm speaking from

a UK perspective. The labor unions are so very PC and and and uh you know, establishment left rather than rather than what you know, you used to have effectively, which were which were pretty strong and fierce advocates, albeit most of them on the political left. For as you say they're members, how long has it been since since they were really useful for their members? Well, they're shaft one right now that you're right. They haven't been in

the forefront for their their members at all. They've they've suck it to them and at it. I just can't believe if I was a member, I'd be on my leadership to go after Congress after we put our money into membership dues to support of the people in Congress and their elections, and at I'd say, hey, we don't want to do without money. You guys, aren't you guys? Owe us Bill in West Virginia, thank you so much for the call here on the Buck Sexton Show. Let's

go to Tony in Harrisburg. Tony you with us, Yes, I'm here right, You're doing a great job. You're my favorite filling for the buckster. Oh, thank you very much. And Tony your checks in the mail. Yeah. I just want to let you know that this is one person who is so it's just so proud of our president. President Trump is a breath of fresh air, and people

just are not used to his intractable uh confidence. You know, typically when the Republicans are in the White House, you know, they they try so hard to be liked by the Democrats who may be in charge of the House at the Senate at the time, and they just uh you know, power in in in fear, you know that they may not be liked or accepted by the left. And Donald Trump says, I don't care, you know, I don't I don't care if you liked me or not. I let

me play Devil's advocate. Unplay devil's advocate, Tony. I mean, you know where I stand on next But but but we will play this game anyway. Um And I do, by the way, want um people who disagree with me and Tony Um to call in. I want I want anti Trump people. I want people who think this president's intractability, as Tony puts it, is a bad thing. I want you to call in as well and make your case. That's that's fair, and that's how we do things here.

Eight four four, nine hundred buck. So get on the lines, Tony. What do you say to the polls that have come out that show actually President Trump is taking a little bit of a hit amongst his own base over not the shutdown as in and of itself, but now the length of the shutdown. I would say my response is, I don't trust the polls necessarily. I think that, but Tony, they got it so right in twenty and sixteen. Exactly.

I don't trust the polls, and even if they are trying to do a sincere job of reflecting the public sentiment, the public is not Donald Trump. The public is not used to having this kind of intractability there they are, you know, they're used to having to try to go along to get along, and that's the natural reaction, you know. But Donald Trump's not having any of it. So I would say that, you know, he's not like the majority of Americans. He has a confidence and a resolute spirit

that most people just don't have. So he's staying the course and it's going to pay big dividends in the end. Tony in Pennsylvania. Thank you so much for the call. Here on the Buck Sexton Show Line two, Charlie is in one of my favorite places, Ocean City, Maryland. Charlie, you willis. Yeah, I'm here in Ocean City, Maryland. We're blue. Anyway, when I heard about Trump grounding Pelosi, now I kind of gathered that she was either boarding the plane or

getting ready to or or something. Right, she was on her way, well, on her way. There was a bus. There was an air Force bus that was being loaded up with the congressional delegation. It was, it was already on its way, and I think it did a few laps of a few laps of the Capitol Hill and came right back. Well, I would love somebody to have their smartphone and record her reaction when she couldn't do what she wanted, because these politicians do not understand. Trump's

a builder. I was in the building business all my life, and I understand he operates on common sense and he's not a politician. And that's what I really really enjoy about him. He expects things done. So you you were, you were gleeful about the tip for tat nature of this Pelosi saying, you know, we're gon we're gonna stump you from doing the State of the Union or or you know, recommend that it's delayed or what have you. And I guess maybe you agree with me, maybe you don't.

Maybe I'm being unfam maybe I'm not. But I guess the average Republican would have sort of taken that on the chin or try to find a compromise, or apologized or demurred away from the argument. President Trump and his White House said, m okay, you want to play that game. You're not going anywhere. Yeah. Well, I've heard suggestions that he can kind of hold not a rally, but kind of like that and give the State of the Union

address in there. That is that is entirely true. There is no there is no obligation for the president to give a State of the Union address to Congress. It just happens to be a tradition, I believe, starting with Woodrow Wilson in nineteen thirteen, but before that, I believe the president really only submitted a letter or a written report to Congress. How about how about my idea there, Charlie, what about a series of tweets He's actually learn at

that and I guarantee you with Pelosi. I've seeing her face when she was shut down, and now if our president tweets on that oh Man sheet, she'll blow her mind. Well, we're going to be talking to Laura Luma later on in the program as well. Laura trolled Nancy Pelosi this week by jumping her border wall around her house and erecting a migrant caravan on her lawn. And I'm looking forward to speaking with Laura about that. I know she's

got some more plans to highlight the wall hypocrisy out there. Hey, Charlie in Maryland, thank you so much for the call here on the Buck Sexton Show. The phone number here if you want to be part of the conversation is eight four four nine eight four four nine hundred buck. You might notice that I do read that out a lot.

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live from the Freedom Hut in downtown Washington, DC. Quick break. Now, when we come back, my bestie Sarah Sealup, a publicist here in Washington, d C, on the line to discuss one of my favorite subjects of this week. Alexandria Ocacio Cortez, will be right back by now. You guys would have heard of the Global Verification Network, the only DUELS certified veteran owned background investigations and vetting company. You can find them at my GVN dot com or you can call

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from the Freedom Hut here in Washington, DC. My name is Rahem because I'm filling in for Buck Sexton today. Joining me on the line now one of my favorite publicists in Washington, DC, Sarah Selip, joining us, Sarah, good evening. Well, we'll see about that, you know, we'll see how the

interview goes. Sarah. I wanted to get your thoughts on Alexander Occassio Cortez because everyone's talking about her, but actually we're talking about talking about her, We're not actually talking about what she portends, what she means, the threat which

I think she pretends for the United States. And I want to play I was on Fox last night, and of course you know me, Sarah, I want to play a clip of myself from Fox last night and get your response to it, because I think people are missing something here, or at least conservatives are missing something here. They want to laugh at her and joke about her and dismiss her. And we did that in the United

Kingdom to a man called Jeremy Corbyn a few years ago. Now, Jeremy Corbyn is the leader of the Labor Party and is in a very very close situation, as people have probably seen with regards the whole Brexit scenario to actually taking over the reins of government. Let's play clip eight. We have had in charge of the Labor Party now a hardline socialist Jeremy corbyt and you guys need to

take Alexander Arcassio Cortez. The Democrats need to take a more seriously and treat her as more of a danger than Conservatives do, because actually what Jeremy Corbyn has done in the Democrat Party, in the Labor Party, rather, he cannot get his party to take power. Even if he won an election, he wouldn't hold the confidence of Parliament

at the moment. And if you allow somebody who's clearly read rules or radicals, and who's clearly well versed on Mark Lilla's once on future Liberal to take over both the cultural and she's very good at the cultural take of both the cultural and the policy orientation of the party.

You won't get those reins back. Now, that was my warning to the Democrats, but actually the warning for the country I think is, you know on the Black Swan events, Sarah, that somebody like that does come to power, it's it's it's a pretty dire situation, isn't it. Yeah, absolutely so when it comes to something like AFC, you see that she has a perfect grasp of what it means to take the lead of the cultural aspect. You see it every day with social media, the fact that she's likely

trending in all times. She will tweet something and all of a sudden she's everywhere. I mean, she has a better grasp on it than most of the people in Congress. So you know, when you have a freshman congress person come in and you know they're not really acquainted with the policy, but they have a mastery of reaching their constituents and new voters gen Z, you know, there's kind of sort of a threat to the rest of Congress, like how are they going to a doubt it? And

that's how she rises to power. So what I was thinking last night as well, before that panel, you know, not particularly in the weeds on policy or process really good at populism. It reminds me of someone who took over the Republican Party a couple of years ago, and you know, we've seen how that's gone. That is, given Donald Trump hergemony over the right now, I perhaps I believe that's a good thing because I am a Trump style nationalist and have been for a great many years.

But for the Democrats who want to keep their you know, control of their party, AOC as we know her now poses a massive threat in that sense, doesn't she right? Absolutely so if you look back, even going beyond Trump to the Obama campaign, he was probably one of the first people to actually adopt social media as a huge campaign platform. And you know, with conservative they obviously understand what's going on. You know, tweets are, from the pr standpoint,

extremely valuable. If you misspell one thing, people will write thousands of articles about it, like Hamburger exactly, or coves or whatever the nicknames of the day. Yeah, yeah, it's I think. I think the Democrats are in for a really rocky time with with AOC. And actually it makes me concerned that the future of the country kind of rests on whether or not the Democrats can weed out the extreme miss within their own ranks. I don't perhaps

you know, I don't. I don't take great, you know, great comfort in that happening, given given where these guys are going at the moment. But you know, let's talk about that cultural element to this. She's massive on Instagram. She says horrendous things like run a train on the progressive agenda and by the way, ladies and gentlemen out there, if you don't know what that means, do not look it up. Okay, just no googling that right now, or do it from a private private session in your browser. Um,

you know she but she gets it. She gets how to connect and more than anything, Sarah, she gets how to pretend she's Alexandria from the block right exactly. So she's just so relatable. Whether you're you know, a Democrat or Republican. Everybody admires how she takes a hold of social media. You tune in to watch her instant part recipe you want to cover the next lipstick that she talks about, which when she released it last year, saying this is my favorite listig of all time, It's fought

down within minutes. She's a perfect mix between an Instagram influencer and a politician, and that's what works so well for her, and it worked well, you know, it's worked well for a lot of people. That reminds me of Nigel Farage. Nigel had this tie and this coat in the United Kingdom where the tie said I legitimate, non carborundum. It means don't let the bastards grind you down. And when people saw him wearing that tie, that tie hold

out online across the board. And the same thing with his camel head coat, which Sarah, you probably see me wearing quite a lot. It comes from the Nigel Farage school of fashion and and same that way. You know, the these this European style populism is now making real, real inroads into the United States, and both the Republican and the Democrat establishments have been caught with their pants down on these things. Where do you see AOC going just in the last minute or so we've got with

you here over the next couple of months. I think most people are a little bit obsessed, and I confess to being that way myself, So I really want to understand where you think she's going with this. I mean, you see the same thing from a fashion perspective from Kate Middleton and Meghan Markle when they would sell out items in minutes on Jake Crue, Maximara Barbary, etc. Etc. But with ASC it seems that she's on an upward trajectory. Consistency has been her thing. She stayed almost exactly the

same with messaging. She will reach out to the same people in the same way, or attack people on Twitter in the same way. It just works for her. It doesn't work for everyone, and even for the Democrats. But she knows what she's doing and she knows how to master all of the platforms, so I don't see her stopping anytime soon. Sarah, just tell people where they can find more of your thoughts on all things political and cultural. You can follow me on Twitter at Sarah sellip esk

lip of computer. It's my last name Insard within each Sarah Selupa. Thank you so much for joining us. I think I might make you our cultural correspondent here whenever I'm guest hosting on this show. That would be amazing. I would love that. All right, Sarah sell out with there, ladies, LL make sure you're following her on Twitter. The phone number here is eight four four nine hundred buck eight four four nine hundred two eight to five one more

of her calls. In the next hour, we're gonna be talking to Ned Ryan from American Majority, Jenkins, Republican strategist, Terry Schilling from the American Principles Project, and of course you guys. I'm Raheem Kassam. This is the Buck Sexton Show live from the Freedom Hut. We'll be right back after this short break. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to the Buck Sexton Show, broadcasting from the Freedom Hunt here in Washington, d See. My name is Rahem Kasam,

filling in for Monsieur Sexton this evening. The phone lines are open eight four four nine hundred buck eight four four nine hundred two eight two five. In case you missed the first hour, I think it was good. We talked about Google and the FIBs that the Google CEO may may have ended up telling Congress about whether or

not they intervene in individual search results. Big implications there, given that you know that is a search engine monopoly really and they shape the entire the entire Internet people's research. What it's going into your news, what you're consuming is news, et cetera, et cetera. Talked a little bit about Alexander Accassio Cortez with my good buddy Sarah Salop had some great calls from you guys. So don't let me down

this hour either. Eight four nine hundred U c K. I want you to tell me if you think I'm wrong, if you think I'm right. We opened with this latest troll I think from President Trump perpetrated against Nancy Pelosi, pulling her off the military bus about to go on a little trip, a little trippy trip across to Brussels, Egypt and Afghanistan, and after she played politics with the State of the Union, President Trump said, no, no, Nancy, you will not be taking a military plane abroad. He

will stay right here in Washington, DC and negotiate with me. Well, he can't force her to negotiate, but he can ground her. That's exactly what he's done. I'm want to bring in my friend Ned Ryan, he's the CEO of American Majority, which you can find out more about American Majority dot com. Ned. Good evening, thanks for joining us, Hey, great to be

word rahem Ned. I think I did a good summary there of what's gone down today, But the bigger picture is CNN's upset that we're still in shutdown here in DC. I've got to tell you I haven't really noticed, right, No, No, This has been one of the arguments I've been making raheem outside of DC, outside of the Aselic Corridor, most of the American people have literally not been impacted one bit by the fact that eight hundred thousand federal government

employees have been sent home, are being furloughed. And I think it begs the question if about forty of the federal government employees have been sent home and most Americans don't even notice, why aren't we having a conversation about the size of our government? Because I would make an argument, and I think the longer that the shutdown goes on, the stronger the argument becomes. Do we really need as

much government as we have? Do we need to have nearly two million federal government employees we're spending one hundred and thirty six billion a year on Do we really need over four hundred and thirty department's agencies and sub agencies? And I think this shutdown is making a very compelling argument that in fact, we don't in fact, our lives are not affected by it, and in fact, our government needs some serious reform and we need to start thinking

about shrinking it. Good point, well made. I want to make the case also that you know, there are obviously the majority of those eight hundred thousand people affected by this government shutdown will be good people, you know, right, they are normal, ordinary people, and my heart goes out to them that they are going through this. But at the same time, you know, government work comes with benefits

and it comes with pitfalls. You know, it comes with some level of security in some senses and a level of insecurity in others, and it should be no different from from you know, having the insecurity that you have in a job in the private sector or if you're a contractor or so on and so forth. There is no you know, you are not owed anything by the taxpayer.

You have opted to do that job. And again my heart goes out to you if you're one of those government workers who don't know where the next paychecks coming from or when it's going to come. But at the same time, you knew that, didn't you going into this thing. And and ned I also just want to put to you this um you know, the science of government argument is a really good one to be raising right now.

And as we approached the thirty day mark of this of this shutdown, are the Democrats shooting themselves in foot because of course they love big government. You know, put what Bill Bill Clinton, bill government, Bill Clinton said about the era of big government being over aside for a second, because that didn't happen. The Democrats are sort of leading Americans down that path to going old. I mean, we don't need all these people, no, I think so absolutely.

I think that the longest thing goes on, they're actually making arguments to show again we don't need as much government as we have. And the thing I'd pushed back a little bit on with you Raheem as the fact, you know, I understand you know that people are not getting paychecks. Let's also remember that many times when these shutdowns end, federal government employees are made whole. At the same time, the ones that really suffer are the government contractors.

They're not made whole. You know why, because they're private sector companies. They're not going to be bailed out and made whole by taxpayer dollars. And the other point I would make on this is we now have the most job openings that that we've maybe even had in our entire history. But it's five six million job openings. I would make the argument again, let's have the conversation about the size and role of government at the same time.

These eight hundred thousand people market forces. If we truly believe that there are market forces and we're now seeing that, maybe perhaps there's a potential to have a market force say hey, we don't need as much government. There are five to six million job opportunities for those eight hundred thousand people where they could actually go into the private sector and actually really experience what it means to be in the private sector. Because I'm telling you, Raheem, I

have been in DC about twenty years. I can guarantee you that there are many federal government employees. First of all, it's redundant. There's a lot of overlap. I don't know if you saw the Daily callerpiece just a few days ago in which somebody was making the argument and really explaining what a lot of these federal government employees are doing day to day. It's about process, it's about new

task force, it's about creating new agencies. All they're seeking to do is put in time, get their pay, and expand the role of government. I think we need to have a serious conversation. And I'm sorry that they're a part that they might get caught in this, but the future of our country. We're twenty two trillion dollars in debt. We are now looking at annual deficits of a trillion in twenty years, raheem. If we do not stop this, we're going to be talking about forty trillion in national debt.

Debt is unsustainable. No country, not even the United States, can sustain that. That's true. No countries ever sustain that level of debt. Okay. So with all that in mind, ned, what should this president be doing in your estimation? And how long does this go on for? I think it goes as long as it needs to. I mean, what we're really this is the amazing part to me, Raheem. We're talking about one eighth of one percent that he is asking for in regards to funding this five point

seven billion for the wall. Democrats in the past five years ago voted for forty six billion, eight billion specific for a wall. They're obviously deeply hypocritical. I think Trump holds out as long as he needs to until they come to the table and they negotiate. In fact, I think that he should even go to the point of saying, under the Immigration and Nationality Act, if you guys will not negotiate with me, I will shut down the entire

southern border until you've come to the negotiating table. I think this is his chance to go and just say we're going to have this conversation not only about the wall, but we're going to actually reform and fix our immigration system, which I would actually argue with him is so broken

as to not even really be a system. And the other thing I'll say about this, in regards to the State of the Union, Trump should go down to the border and he should find the biggest venue he could find, fifty thousand people, and he should get his State of the Union address live on television in front of fifty thousand people and blow the socks off Nancy Pelosi. That would be awesome. That would indeed be awesome, But it

also is a little predictable. And this president, I mean in the sense that we're all predicting it right that he should do it. This president tends to pull things even further out of left field than that any any I mean, see, I was going with the whole from Air Force one. I don't care well I was. I was thinking, you know, to do a Twitter State of

the Union, you know, whatever it takes. And I think the reason when you're winning, when you are winning a debate, you put your opponent out there to basically hang themselves, to basically undo themselves. The fact that Nancy Pelosi is I think deeply concerned about giving Trump that platform for the State of the Union to actually go directly to the American people and again make that argument why we need to have the wall, why we need to have

immigration reform. She's not winning this debate, but I think what she's done is actually going to put Trump on steroids. I think whatever he's going to do, it will magnify his audience tenfold. And so I think what she's actually done is not only shown that she's not winning the debate, She's going to make Trump's speak wherever he gives it,

that much more powerful. And I think with a really much begger audience, ned Ryan, tell tell our audience where they can find more of your work, tweets and and anything else you want them to see and things you don't want them to see. Well, you know that they can see whatever they want to see, Ned, Ryan any d r Yu on r yu and on Twitter. American majority. Dot org actually is where they can find out more about our sorty trainings. Um but yeah, no, Christ said

dot com. Yeah, but you know what, American majority, they can google it, they can find it. Don't google it. We don't use Google anymore. We use duct go. I use duct dot go yea, yeah, I use ductorgo. I don't Google. And I wish I could have talked about Google some more. But they need to be broken up. Alphabet Inc. Needs to be broken up for the good

of the American people. Well, I'll tell you what next time, next time I'm in this hot seat in the Freedom Heart, You're going to come on and talk about the dominance of these nefarious tech companies. But Ned, thank you so much for joining us here on the Buck Sexton Show. Thanks for him. Eight four four nine hundred buck eight four four nine hundred two eight two five is the number here? Was Ned wrong? Was Ned right? Did I

ask the important questions? What would you say to this president if you had his ear for just a moment, who knows. Maybe he's listening this evening. Good evening, mister President. If you are right, we're gonna go to a quick break now. When we come back, Jen Kerns, I'm gonna be talking more about this shutdown, but I want your calls to get on the lines and be on the triggers. This is the Buck Sexton Show. I'm Raheem Gassam. We'll be right back. Welcome back to the Buck Sexton Show.

I'm Rahem Gassam, broadcasting live from the Freedom Heart here in Washington, d C. We're talking all things shut down this hour. If you want to have your say, eight four four nine hundred buck eight four four nine hundred two eight two five is the number here. I'm joined now by my good friend at Jen Kerns, Republican strategist Jen. Good evening. Hello, Raheem, how were you, Jen? I'm fine. I'm so excited to be talking to my brother from

another mother. Jen. We had another one of our brethren on the line a moment ago, Ned Ryan was joining us to talk about all of this and where it's going to. Let me get your thoughts right now. Ned's position is that it's good the shutdown is good in the grand scheme of things, because it is showing a lot of Americans how little government they actually need in their lives, how a little these federal workers, and no offense to them on a personal level. We're talking about

the institutions that they represent being bloated. They are unfortunately caught up in all of this mess. But how little that is actually needed. And where is this going to stop? Ned says It'll go on as long as it needs to. Yeah, I would agree with that. And I think President Trump here is showing his reaganesque side, you know, as Ronald Reagan, who he had a total of I think seven or

eight shutdowns. I think it was eight during his eight years, and you know, he didn't care what people thought, he didn't care what the press set And I think that is very much a page that that Trump is taking yet again out of the Reagan books. And look, if you look at the core issue of this, you know, the mainstream media today is trying to make everybody think that the American people don't care about border security and

that Trump's numbers are actually coming down. And I looked at the various polls that were out today, the Washington Post poll, the Marist poll, the NBC News Washington Well three journal polls give you. Those were all the same polls that had Hillary Clinton up eighteen points on October sixteenth, twenty sixteen. They all said she was going to win in the landslide. And how that changed in a period of two weeks. I look at the other poles. Does

that really matter here? If you look at the Rasmusan pole, they were one of only three posters that got the twenty sixteen elections, right, I think they're the most accurate. They showed that an overwhelming number of Americans are concerned about border security, and in fact, one out of four Americans, even during the shutdown, would contribute their own money to

build the border wall. You have other poles. Out AP poll which has slightly center left, taken just before the shutdown, shows border security has now moved into among the top five concerns for the American people. You look at the Gallup poll, which is a gold standard and polling reported that border security had actually moved into the top two concerns for Americans just after the twenty eighteen mid terms. After Nancy Pelosi won back that gabble and finally an economist.

Yugov poll shows that a whopping sixty two percent of Americans actually view illegal immigration not border security. The actual word used was illegal immigration as either a very serious problem or a somewhat serious problem, and only seven percent of Americans seven percent believed that illegal immigration was quote not a problem. So that shows me President Trump has the win in his sales here. He can let this go on for a protracted battle if he wants. What

if the cases I'm just playing devil's advocate here. What if the case is actually I don't know if I'm playing devil's advocate, maybe I do believe this. What if the case is that the public season right on the issue but wrong on the tactics. Well, look where we've seen the American sentiment really has not changed that significantly on President Trump. And look at he has been right on virtually every issue since he was sworn in as president. You look at the economy, You look at the stock

market has gone to record levels. They said the stock market was going to tank within seventy two hours of his inauguration, didn't happen. You look at jobs. He's brought jobs back to America in every sector, Women's unemployment down seventeen year low, Overall unemployment down seventeen year low, African American unemployment down a fifty year low since they began

recording the rate. So you can look at this and say, you know, the American people, you know, it has shown up in polls that they don't like how he says something. They certainly like what he's actually doing, and I think that sentiment will start to come through in the polls here. They may not like this tit for tat sending letters back and forth between he and Nancy Pelosi, but at the core, they do like that border security, as I just said, and they do like that he's standing tough

and standing up to the position. And look, anyone that's surprised that the government is shut down right now has not been paying attention. He ran on the concept of draining the swamp, and that is precisely what he's doing. I think it's a secondary battle here. I think he did shut the government down over the border wall. But secondarily, this does fit, you know, the list of a hundred things that he wanted to check off his campaign promises list.

This does fit one of those items in there that he's going to check off and say, look, I kept my promise to the American people. I went to Washington, DC, and I helped drain the small Just funnily, Jen, I want to ask a hypothetical question here because I think in late December let down first loomed and the bars in on Capitol Hill started serving shutdown cocktails. I had one of them. That was before my dry January. By the way, I'll talk to you guys about that a

little later in the program. But when that happened, I guess we thought, hey, you know, this will last a week, two weeks, maybe a little longer. We're going on some time now, an unprecedented amount of time. Now in your estimation, I mean, you've seen this stuff, you study very closely. How much longer can this realistically? I don't mean you know, theoretically, in a in a you know, if he needs to do it since, but how much longer do you think the White House allows this to go on before having

to change tax somewhere. I truly believe Raheem dieted go on for sixty five or seventy days without President Trump losing much in the polls. I think five to seven points max. And look I've studied this for fifteen years. Yeah, and look, you didn't see the Democrats crying in their beers at the Capitol Hill bars when Barack Obama closed down the government in October twenty thirteen. You know, it's so funny. Democrats are so up in arms over this and they hate it because Trump has done it. But

look at the history. Barack Obama shut down the government in twenty thirteen. His shutdown was actually worse than President trump shutdown. His was a complete shutdown, whereas Trump's is only a partial shutdown. By the numbers, Obama furloughed far more employees, more than eight hundred thousand workers under barackton you've got to jump here. It's a hard break. So that's all music. And yet more than a million asked

to work without pay. So thank you, Jen Kearns. This is the Buck Sexton Show, Live from the Freedom Hind, Washington, d C. We'll be right back. Welcome back. It's the Buck Sexton Show broadcasting life from Washington, d C. The phone lines are open eight four four nine hundred eight four four nine hundred to eight two five and speaking of which, want to go to line one. Anthony in Pennsylvania. Anthony, are you with us? Yes, I am, sir. How you

doing that doing well? Sir? Take us away? Yeah, all right, you've got the mic, Anthony, go ahead. I think Donald Trump is at a maker break point now. He must stay the course because if the Democratic Party, having just taken the House, realizes that they can roll him over

on this, then the wall will never get built. This would be a harbinger of persistent defeat, this of course being you know, the wall and the border security being probably the primary thing now this administration is concerned with. If it rolls over on this, Anthony was saying, don't roll over and everything else, then all President Trump has to do is say I took an oath to preserve, protect,

and defend the Constitution of the United States. And even places that don't teach the Constitution anymore, they teach children to memorize the preamble and feel that they've studied the Constitution. The preamble of the Constitution states that we the people to provide for the common defense. And that's exactly what he's doing right here. He's providing for the defense of the nation. He's providing for enforcement of the borders. That's

a federal function that's enumerated in the Constitution. That's not discretionary, that's mandated. So what he's doing by insisting on this border defense is merely upholding the oath that he took as president. You know, I think about this quite a lot. Antony. I think it'd be a very good point, because on the run up to the twenty and sixteen election, we would hold over and over again that Donald Trump doesn't know anything about the Constitution. Donald Trump doesn't know anything

about America. He's just he's just a loudmouth New Yorker who got a big donation from his dad. And it turns out that whether it's intentional or just as as as a consequence of nature, he seems to be the only one, even sometimes within his own party, who is actually sticking to what is required of him per his oath.

When I was very young and I was in school, I remember there was a poem that I read and it was called mean And I see, the most stupid thing that's ever said about conservatives, right after using the word hateful as an adjective, is mean spirited. And I remember this one passage from a poem. I can't remember the author the poem's name was mean, and I will never forget. Mean is the coward's favorite game in which the winner shifts the blame. And that's what the Democrat

they're doing. We see, you know, Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer ed al say never a dime, not a dime, We won't give one penny for the wall. Then the CBS Evening News comes on. You know, Donald Trump refuses to compromise on the border security, and mean is the coward's favorite game in which the winner shifts the blame. And it appears the willing accomplices in the mainstream press are allowing the Democrats to shift the blame. Oh I love that. Thank you for the call. Anthony there in Pennsylvania.

Let's go to line too. Jim is in Boston. Jim, good evening, Good evening, raheem, thank you for taking the call. Absolutely just a frame of reference. I actually used to work for Speaker of Ause O'Neil years ago under him and Reagan, and what was interesting was they could read to disagree on certain things, but it was all about

getting business done. And unfortunately today they're so polarized. So my thought is, or my suggestion to President Trump would be to hold out until March, when the debt ceiling has to be raised, and use that as a leverage point again to actually force them to start negotiating in good faith instead of turning around and saying we're not going to do anything. Now. For those of us Jim like me, I will confess who don't understand the process

that that would that would entail. Just walk us through what happens in March and how the president could could leverage that. As you say, so, he's got They're going to need to pass a bill to increase the debt ceiling. The government a run out of money, and very much like letting Nancy Pelosi not fly on government planes, He's going to turn around, with the Senate's help to say, hey, listen, if you want to do this, you need to get my buying. You need to also get the buying of

the Senate. And now we really need to solve this problem if you want to keep the government actually going and raise the debt ceiling so that the government has money. And if they're going to play this game of chicken

with him, whoever swerves first is going to lose. And I think Democrats are so ingrained in keeping their base with the power of the purse, they're going to have to turn around and say, listen, we need to make a deal here and for five billion dollars, which is a pitting they're going to have to come through, especially when you consider that all of these knuckleheads have have gone ahead and voted for massive um you know, border funding in the past, and now just because the name

in the White House is Trump, they're going to stand against him. I think the only way for him to do it or get them to take notice is when it comes down to they need him. With regard to the debt sailing, Jim would I would love to connect with you if you hang on the lining and try and get one of our producers to get get your details so I can I can connect with you off off air as well. It's Jim in Boston with an absolutely fantastic call pointing out some extraordinary things there about

the debt ceiling. Extraordinary in the sense that when I asked the question earlier about how long the president can keep this shutdown going, Jen Kerns told me effectively up until much she said, another another thirty days or so, without really seeing much of a problem in sure enough. That takes us into Jim's theory there that we can take this right up until the dead ceiling has to be raised again. Maybe that's the plan. Maybe that's been

the plan all along by this administration. More leverage their way comes. Who knows. Eight eight four four nine hundred bark, that's eight four four nine hundred two eight two five is the number here. And I tell you, the quality of the calls today, just like every day that I'm the guest host of this show, is supremely high. I hope, I hope you guys all know how much I appreciate it and how much I learned from you guys out

there as well. So if you're, you know, a first time caller, never called in before, now now's the chance. The bar. The bar is set high, and I think I think that should be something we all reach for. And I agree with Jim as well when he said that, now we used to actually talk to one another, and that's what I aim to do with these shows. That's why I aimed to do yesterday with my Democrat opponent

on the Laura Ingram Show last night on Fox. Mostly because I believe the arguments and the right is on my side, and so I go into it with that level of confidence. But also because what what does it help us to be at each other's throats all the time, to reject the idea of understanding one another and where we're all coming from. You see, when I talk privately to people about these things, we seem to be able

to do it like grown adults. It just so happens that when the cameras are on or the radio Mike's heart people want to grandstand and pull back into their own little corners. Well more people have been doing today on Capitol Hill. Alexandro Accassio Cortez once again. And she does know how to get coverage, and she does know how to get coverage out of me. She said, she

goes a hunting in the Senate for Mitch McConnell. Can't find him, can't find him in the cloakroom, can't find him on the floor, can't find him in the office. Nowhere to be seen. She went to the wrong place. She was supposed to go to the Senate Majority leaders office. She ended up just going to the general Senate offices. But I suspect that she knew that, and that she was doing that to get the coverage of her walking around the Senate going where's Mitch, Where's Mitch, Where's Mitch?

And sure enough, here I am playing right into her hands giving her the coverage. This is the Buck Sexton Show. I'm Rheim because some were broadcasting live from Washington, DC in the Freedom Heart. We're going to take a quick break now. When we come back, Terry Shilling from the American Principles Project and more of your calls, we'll be

right back. Welcome back the Buck Sexton Show. I'm Raheem Kassam, broadcasting live from the Freedom Hunt in downtown Washington, d C. I realized earlier I didn't tell you where you can read it more from Jen Kerns. Let's at Jen Kerns k e r n S on Twitter and Jen Kerns dot com. She was the Republican strategist we had on earlier in this hour talking about the government shutdown. I want to pivot now to Terry Shilling. He's the ahead

of the American Principles Project and a dear friend of mine. Terry. Good evening, Hey, Raheem, thanks for having me and I'm excited of the year. Well, thank you for being on. I realize you're in mid transit at the moment, so I'm grateful that you can join us. It's a short segment we've got at the bottom of this hour, so let's jump right into it. The March for Life is tomorrow, Terry, what's the March for Life? It's the biggest pro life

of then the country. Every year, around the anniversary of the Rogue Way decision, hundreds of thousands of pro home so active go to washingt NBC to show Congress and the President that the right to life is a fundamental issue here and that we need to protect everyone from conception until natural death. So I have seen this now for a couple of years. We don't really have anything like it from back where I'm from, and I suppose there's the similar things in France, A couple of other

countries do it. But I mean, this is a vast, vast thing, massive, massive numbers, huge array of events around it. But even still back in twenty seventeen, I believe the Women's March, the leftist pink hatted March, got around two hundred times the level of coverage than the massive, massive March for Life did. Terry Waite is that it's just because we obviously have a slanted media across of century, and you know they don't like to cover the March

for Life and how many people show up. But the other reason, I think, though, if I'm being honest about it, that the March for Life happens every year and hundreds of thousands of people come, and I think that the media has probably just gotten used to it. It's it's not abnormal for hundreds of thousands of people to come in January to March for Life. It was something more newsworthy, I think as a restaurant. Oh, I'm not saying the Women's March wasn't newsworthy, don't get me wrong, but two

hundred times more newsworthy. No, I think that's a fair criticism. It is Terry. We we shot in time, and I want to get to your toxic masculinity. If you don't mind, let me just get the producers to play this clip from this Gillette advert that came out this week against masculinity? Is this the best a man can get? As well? Problem we can't hide for harassment is taking off. It's

been going on far too long. What I actually thinks she's trying to say, making the same old excuses, but something finally changed allegations regarding sexual assault and sexual harassments once, but she says, and there will be no going back, because we we believe in the best in men. Men need to hold other men accountable. Well that's a Gilette advert. If you follow me on Instagram, you'll know that I immediately threw my Gillette razor out terry. Is your masculinity toxic?

And can you be better? Oh? Man? You know, I think the big problem with that ad is that it wasn't written by men. It was written by radical feminists, who you know, have always looked down on masculinities. And I think that, you know, obviously the stuff that they label or lay out in the ad does need to be addressed. And but I don't think that that's a product of masculine I think that that's a rejection of masculine. You know, a masculine man does not objectify women, A

masculine man doesn't bully people. A masculine man actually stands up for women, and a real man stands up to bullies. And so I think the heart of it is it's interesting, but it was just written by the wrong people. I could write a much better ad that'd be more effective, it would get the point across. So maybe that's a project you and I should work on our heam or we could not and say we did. This is a

great radio terry. It's it's one of those things. I mean, we've seen a lot of people now tossing out the Gillette raises, some people even saying they won't consume any Procter and Gamble Goods products anymore, which is a very difficult thing to achieve, actually, when you consider just how much that company owns. Is that the right response to this? How do you? How do you feel? And do you own any gilette products terry? You do you now or have you ever owned any gilette products terry? Have you?

No shames? Sir? I look, I've been I've been using the Dollar Shape club for the past ten years. Is not an advertisementility? No, no, no, I'm not average. I'm sorry they should give you money though, um, but no, listen, I haven't used gialette and I think already guys have swift from gilette products to the Dollar Shape clubs. So they knew they had to do something really controversial to get the whole country talking about them. Yeah, most of my friends are just choosing the next beer now over

Gilette raisers. So well, we'll see how that works out for them and their wives. You have some very very curious friends, my friends, and I suppose they're friends. Yeah, I suppose they're friends by proxy for me, which should should be worried about. Terry, tell Alreudience a little bit about the American Principles Project and where they can follow

your work. Look, we're a very simple group. We work on federalism and families, so we get the federal coming out of the way that the family can throw up and prosper and allow for maximum amount of liberty and freedom. And we can find us at on the web at APPFDC dot org and we'll be coming out with some really interesting reports here pretty soon making the political argument

for creating strong families. Strong families tend to vote more with liberty and mind and a conservative and you know, weak families tend to vote as liberals, and so I think their way to turn the centure around is to encourage and strengthen more strong families. You hear that, ladies and gentlemen, Terry Shilling just called your families week. If you're a liberal, what are you going to do about it?

You're gonna get on the phones eight four four nine one hundred buck eight four four to nine under two eight two five and let Terry have it. We're up against the break here. But when we come back, do you want to talk to you about my latest column for the American Spectator magazine. It's about this dry January I've undertaken, and of course more of your call, So stay on the line. I'm Raheem Kassam. We'll be right back. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. It's the bug Sexton Show.

I'm ahem Pusam, broadcasting live out of Washington, DC, and I can't believe two hours have gone already, just the last hour to go here. But I don't want to leave because it just started snowing outside again, and I tend to I'm a walker, and I tend to like walking the I guess it's like a forty five minute walk home for me from here, and now I'm going to do it in the snow, which will be extra fun. I might just hang around here in studio and wait

till it subsides a little bit. See if anybody tries to kick me out of the building, maybe we'll just sleep here overnight. I've got to be back here at the boarding anyway. Right the phone lines are open eight four four nine hundred buc K eight four four nine hundred two eight two five. We've been talking about the shutdown in the past couple of hours. Also, if you

miss the first hour, do go back and listen. Lots of interesting stuff in there about what Google's up to behind the scenes in suppressing conservative information now as it turns up in search functions, not just on Google dot Com, but on all their other products as well, like YouTube. Really interesting stuff there from my friend Alan Paccari over at bright bart Tech, who actually got a leak from inside Google about all of that. So make sure you're

plugged in and understanding what's going on there. We talked a little bit about AOC Alexandra Accacio Cortez two, and the story of the day is that despite our next guest, who is none other than the conservative independent journalist Laura Luma, despite her bounding over Nancy Pelosi's home wall and erecting a migrant caravan type situation dally on her lawn wasn't the worst troll Miss Pelosi has gone through this week.

That accolade belongs to the President of the United States, who today revoked her military plane that she was going to take to go to Brussels in Egypt and Afghanistan. I'm a very stable genius. He is a very stable genius. By the way, mister producer, I love when you guys do that. So any time you want, you jump in with mister Trump. In my ear, we've got the phone lines open, and we've got some callers on the line, so I want to go to them now. Line one.

Charles is in Indiana. Oh, good evening to you. How are you doing. I'm very well, Charles, take us away, okay. I'm a retired Fort certain US Army twenty four years Well, thank you for the ideal for the president. There's a stadium in Washington, d C. Let's do the State of Union in the stadium. Whoa, oh, hold on water, open access to the public. As a matter of fact, that's the way it should be. It's the state of the Union.

It's it's our union. Now let me ask you this, Charles M filling a stadium in Trump Country might be easy? Is that so easy in Washington, d C? Well we can just move it to Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis. Yeah, well no, I agree with that, but but fill it because I would drive towards it. It's um, it's I think it's an idea at least from what I hear that is in the mix at the moment. Either a rally type or, as you say, a stadium type event where the president takes the state of the Union to

the people. It would send quite a message, wouldn't it, Charles? You take it to the enemy. Absolutely, Charles, thank you, Go ahead, go ahead. Our president is a lion. And what I'm going to say is to survive in a nation of sheep ruled by wolf owned by pigs, you must become a lion. He is our lion. Charles. Inspirational stuff there. Thank you so much for the call. Let's let's ask Donne in Alabama what he thinks of it all Dawn, Good evening, Welcome to the show. Good evening, raheem,

how are you doing the night? I'm all right, I'm well, thank you very much. I'm I'm embracing myself too. Yeah, oh, I know, and I love I tell you what. I love Alabama and I love the Alabama accent. I'm not coming onto you. I especially like it on women. No, let you understand my male thing is good. So go

right ahead, don take us away. Yes, sir, I just wanted to remind this country, and you know, those of us that think about little things, our penny, the smallest denomination that we've got as God on the top of it. In God we trust. We've built this country based on that. I know I'm opening a kind of worms here, but if you look at the wall that we've got that we're proposing that Trump wants to build for us, we are allies of the single most important nation on the

face of this earth. That city has a wall around it for a reason is to protect us. President Trump said, the ones you love, but also your enemies, to keep them out. This extension of our border, in my heart, I believe is an extension of that wall in that city. And I know you know where I'm talking about. Um, Well, I've been I love my country. I love my country. But I'll tell you if I reach in my pocket right now, I gotta pay in my pocket, and I'll

give it to President Trump. If it's my last one to build this um, well, you know, don't I often joke. I often joke because I'm I'm a British and I'm a British citizen, and I am a conservative, and in in Britain, being a conservative means you would technically or

should be a monarchist as well. So I often joke with my American friends, who are typically Republicans in this in the stricter sense, not in the party political sense, but in the sense that you are a republic I often joke because most of them are are God fearing Christians as well. I say, it's not the Republic of Heaven, it's the Kingdom of Heaven, and therefore that's why I Brobodochus.

But it also applies to what I mean. I'm kidding, But it also applies to what you're saying, right, I mean, when you think of the pearly gates, and you did open account of worms with God, so I'm going to run with it. When you think of the pearly gates, the pearly gates have to be you know, attached to something. They're not just It's not just gates that means heaven is walled off, right, I mean heaven is walled off

from sin and sinners. Correct, Yes, sir, absolutely. And if you you mentioned Google earlier, and I know I'm stepping out lamb right here, I may regret it, maybe not. But if you google law on the present, google now that the things that comes up is about a building. You know, your home. You got a door in your home.

You can walk your door to night. You're not gonna let some stranger just walk into your home and say, hey, I need a cup of water or a meal to eat, you know, unless you unless you are willing to let them in. But they need to knock on the door first. You know, you don't just walk into somebody's home and expect them to give you what they've got. Somebody the shirt off my back, but don't take it from me,

you know. And isn't that I mean, I've I've That's exactly how I feel about Americans in general, perhaps the most generous people on this earth. But don't you try and take something from them. They'll give it to you, but don't you try and take it. Don't In Alabama? What a great call line to Noel? Is it? Nolan, Virginia Beach. Yeah, hey, no, how's it going? Oh? Pretty good? Well take us away. It's good to see the freedom

huts in good hands. And as far as the Democrat, the Democrats trying to beat Chump, they're not going to beat him because he can wait them out. And they're impotent already because just like Republicans they before, when the Republicans had the House, Democrats had the sent they weren't able to get anything done. So I mean, they're not going to beat them, no way. So I mean, is it but is it? Is it an impasse? Or is the White House in charge? Well? I think the way

I was then in charge. But I mean, the Dems are trying to say, okay, we're just going to deny him the funding. And like I said, he could do the emergency declaration and take it from there. But and he's trying to go the right route. But you're the only thing transigent Democrat, that's what he expects. You know, you're not gonna get anywhere. Do you think the National

Emergency is coming? I hope so, because I mean, I mean, I just find it hard to believe that the public can't after seeing all the pictures of the demon's partying in Puerto Rico. They're not mad at them, and they wanted to go partying in Davos as well. And the World Economic Forum this week too. Noel in Virginia Beach, thank you so much for the court God. I love these calls today, ladies and gentlemen. Keep them rolling in eight four four nine hundred b U c K eight

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time being. We've got Laura Luma joining us in just a moment. Quick break. Now, we'll be right back with more Buck Sexton Show in just a moment. Welcome back to the Buck Sexton's Show. My name is Jerehim Kasam, filling in for the Great Buck here today in the Washington, DC studios. It's snowing outside again here in DC. The government is still shut down. Nancy Pelosi is grounded by President Trump. But as I said in the first in the first segment of this show a couple of hours ago,

it's not the only time Nancy Pelosi's been trolled. This week. I'm delighted to say we have on the line joining us now a good friend of mine, somebody whose work I have both followed and supported over the years, conservative independent journalist Laura Luma joins us now. Lura, good evening, Good evening, Thanks for having me Raheim. Hey, absolutely, Laura, you are doing God's work out there, not least in

trolling Nancy Pelosi. Tell us a little bit about what you did this week in you know, just a humanitarian action, I thought, right, yeah, So, you know, Nancy Pelosi of course, has been very stubborn with President Trump and isn't budging at all when it comes to approving five billion dollars in the budget so that we can have a wall built, because you know, we have an absolute humanitarian crisis and

everyone's welcome here. And Nancy and Chuck they want open borders, and you know, they believe that asylum is a human right. And so I decided to go to California and I drove to Nancy Pelosi's multimillion dollar Napa Valley mansion and I met a little alien amigos, and we decided to hop her fence and make a sanctuary in her arts

because everyone is welcome here, you know. And we had a little fiesta and Lacasta day Nancy, and it was really wonderful, and we pitched a little tent and we wrote on the tent in red letters, immorality, because you know, walls are an immorality, all right, and that's Nancy's favorite words. And so it was really nice. You know, I met

these these illegals. They were from Mexico and Guatemala, and one of them even told us they had a criminal record, So you know, it doesn't matter though facts don't matter. What matters is morality, and walls are in immorality. So everyone is welcome here, even Ms thirteenth. We said that last week. No, that it doesn't matter if she gets everything faction correct, as long as she believes she's doing the moral thing. Do you think that relativism is bleeding

into the Democrat Party at large at the moment. Yeah, I mean, it's just it's just an absolute absurdity at this point in time. And I think that I think that it's not even they're not making an effort at all to conceal their hate. True. I mean, what they're doing right now, every single move, everything that they're doing is out of spite for President Trump and just pure partisan politics. So even if it goes against the security

of this country. So, I mean, we're at a point now where if Donald Trump were to say, you know, I you know, I would like to I would like to deport this individual because what we already thought, right when Donald Trump, for example, when he deported a Nazi, an actual Nazi from New York City right and the left criticized him because ICE is the groups that deported

this Nazi. So Donald Trump literally deported a real life Nazi from this country, and the left was complaining about it because they wanted to demonize him for supporting ICE. So no matter what he does right, whether he's supporting Nazi, supporting terrorists, finding the cure for cancer, finding the cure for AIDS, the left in this country is just hell bent on making his life misery. Of course canceled. You know, the State of the Union a judge, you didn't want

a President Trump attending. Yeah, but now her junkards, her junkard has been canceled. Now, Laura, I want to put this to you, and I mean it in a in a in a complimentary way. Okay, Um, you are gas lighting the left like Alexandra Accassio Cortez gas lights the right. You have this ability. I mean you have been deep personed across Twitter and and Patreon and all these things.

You have been had your accounts banned and removed. You famously handcuffed yourself to Twitter HQ to highlight the assault on conservatives that the Silicon Valley is undertaking. But you still manage to trend on Twitter, and you manage to trend on Twitter this week as well. You know, is this really going to come down to the things that you're doing, which is you know, effectively fighting a mass culture war and attracting mass attention to these things with

direct action. Yeah, that's exactly what my plan is, because of course you're right. I have been banned, I have been depersoned, and there is an active assault on me and many others in this country who are conservative, and an attempt to silence us so that we don't have a voice and you know, not even just a say on social media. They're coming after us financially, they're trying to get us banned. But I'm not going to go away. So every single time they try to silence me, I'm

going to take it up a notch. Right, And when I handcuffed myself to Twitter, the left row articles like death of a Provocateur and they said, well, Laura's done for her, her career is done, She's going to fade into irrelevancy. Well, I don't call trending number one on Twitter and leading an illegal alien caravan into the speaker of the House is front lawn in other words, the third most powerful politicians in this country's front yard and

getting illegal aliens to try to open her door. Being irrelevant, right, And if I'm so irrelevance, and why are they so obsessed with me and writing articles about me every single day? Agree more, Laura, Well, see it's only January. It's only January. Wrecking kicking up twenty nineteen. I filmed a video in my bed a couple days ago when I said, stay tuned. You know, my next video on my first video of the year is going to be talked about on every single news channel. And what do you know? It was

a trended number one. And this is only January. My goal is to trend number one every single month this year. And come on, come on, give us, give us, give us a little hint. Where's the next one? I don't know. I have a few more fiestas to throw. You know, there's a lot of rich democrats to have really nice classes. And I got a lot of the megos. I met a lot of people. I was down in the border in Mexico. I met a lot of amigos who are coming.

We got forty thousand people right here. I got to put these people up in some place, you know, they need sandwiches. Laura tell, tell the audience, Laura, tell the audience, because I'm sure everyone out there right now wants to follow you, but it's kind of difficult. Where can they still follow you? And how can they support your work? Yeah? Right, So you can subscribe to my website, Laura Lumur dot us.

And then you can also follow me on Instagram at lumured because that's what Nancy Pelosi had happened to her and she got loomar. And you can support my work on PayPal still PayPal dot me slash Laura Luma. But I'm kind of in a place where all these companies are banning me, and so if you don't want to support PayPal um, you can mail me a check the old fashioned way, right they have. That's what it's coming to move me. They have tried to move me into the stone age of using snail mail. But you can

send me a nice note. Just don't send me any like Rice and you know or anything you know that would kill me. Just you send me money in nice letters. I'm gonna say I don't have much money anymore, Laura. I'm impoverished. Now I'll send you a box of chocolates, Laura Luma, Citizens chocolats. Yeah, citizens, exactly. You're the only You're the only You're You're the only Rocke email ever write notes too, That's for sure, Laura Luma, thank you so much for joy to us here on the Buck

Sex did the show. Remember, ladies and gentlemen, that's Laura Luma. L O m E. Make sure or if you are able to, you are imbibing of her work and supporting her work. We need frontline fighters like Laura, and I'm proud to say I've been supporting her for a while. We'll be right back after this short break. Welcome back to the Buck Sexton's show. I'm Rahemcasan, broadcasting live from the Freedom Hut in Washington, DC. Coming back to you guys on the phone lines. Now, we'll start with Paul

in upstate New York. Paul, good evening, Good evening, Rain. You're doing a great job in buck Well. Thank you very much. I appreciate it greatly. Paul, the Mike's yours. Okay, I barked end in a place that I know several Trump supporters, and I heard you say earlier that his support waned a little bit with him backing off on you know, that's what we're supposed to believe. The Poles are telling us. Yeah, Pauls are full of it. I've never heard I've never heard more support in my entire

her life. Wow. I even hear it from I even hear support from people who didn't like Trump that they believed that he should stick to his guns because this is what he ran on. We have a we have a senator in upstate New York who she has a tendency not to tell the truth. And her she promised, you would serve four years if you won election. By the way, there's no way I would vote for her. But she won, and two weeks after she promised it, she's throwing her head in the ring running for the

president United States. So that means her first thing she did was lie before she ran. But Paul, But Paul, she felt the divine providence, you know, the hand of history on her shoulder. You surely can't you know when when something like that intervenes quite clearly. Oh yeah, I'm standing at a church parking lot because they just helped out at the church. Well I didn't help out the church I'm picking my son up from he was in

the church with a boy Scout meeting. Yeah, and uh, I went to the Believe me when I tell you there is no divine intervention for her. It's the other It's it's the other end. It's the other end of that spectrum that she's going to end up in. Who oh boy, Well, Paul, thank you for conveying your your patron's views to us here on the Bucks Exton Show. You heard Paul. There, ladies and gentlemen. The support increasing

and intensifying for President Trump during this shutdown standoff. Let's ask Ruth in Illinois Online three what she thinks about this all. Ruth, good evening. Hi, nice talk to you. Great to talk to you, Ruth. It's all it's all yours. Take us away. Hello, Yeah, go right ahead, Okay. I just mind his say in regards to the letter that the President wrote to Pelucy. They're calling it childish. I see, checkmate. And why he's respanding in kind? He's he's to me

that was a response she should have gotten. And why why do you I mean she tried to stop him or may well end up stopping him. Giving the State of the Union address from Congress in a couple of weeks time. Why do you think that President Trump responded in kind rather than just saying, well, we're going to go give the speech anyway. Do you think this is a show of force and a show from his end

that he ain't backing down anytime soon. Well, it seems to me that he had said it one time when she looked like she might be the speaker, that he said he would like to get along with her, and he would very much try to do so. But yes, you warned to play games, he could play the massle. He did say that. He did say that, I recall that. So you're fully behind this. How long do you foresee the shutdown going on for? And and how does it affect you? Does it? Does it make you more in

his corner less in his corner? How do you? How do you? How do you process this? Well? I I have barn his carter, so it's I to say. But I definitely am still there, and I am I think he's our only hope anyway. I mean, I just don't see um the other side getting in completely in control like President and the Senate would be the worst thing that could happen. To our country. Okay, so Ruth one one word answer to this. Does he win or does he lose? On this? He'll win Ruth in Illinois predicting

it there. Thank you very much for the call here on the Buck Sexton Show. Um, I have an article out in the Americans say today that actually I wrote last week and only managed to get around sending it filing it to a reputable outlet yesterday. It's called because I was having a little fun with the title, Here's how dry January makes me better than you, little little little dig there. But it's it's effectively a thousand words.

Also that sounds like a lot, but it's about a four minute, five minute read about a process that I go through every year now, which is called dry January. It's a very British invention which began in I think twenty thirteen. I picked it up three years ago where I said to myself, look between the December Christmas boozy parties and well the rest of my boozy life, I

needed a detox period. And not only did I need a detox period this year because I went especially heavy in December, but I needed a detox period because the year last year was very very very difficult. I mean I was on a plane almost every other day going somewhere else in the world to meet some political leader or whatever, you know, just just doing the day job. And I would medicate with poor sleep, lots of booze, poor food, etc. Etc. So towards the end of last year,

I decided, Okay, it's time to get in shape. And I've become a little bit evangelical about dry January and my little fitness kicks. So I wanted to I wanted to write about that. I'm thirty two years old, if you're wondering, but I felt like I was fifty five years old, if I'm honest with you, between the between the cigarettes and the gins and the wine and everything else that I was doing. So this month, I, on

January first, gave up smoking cigarettes forever. I will still treat myself to a guard and a pipe from time to time because you don't inhale those and there are fewer chemicals and so on and so forth. And this is where I get some of you tweeting at me saying, no, that's not true. It's a myth, but that's the way I'm doing it. But no more cigarettes for me. And gone off the booze for January. Now, I thought it

would be very, very difficult. It usually is quite difficult, so difficult in fact, that I give myself three cheat days in the month if I really need them, on the basis that I give fifty pounds sterling, which is about seventy ord dollars to charity per day that I cheat. Now, I'm delighted to inform you that I have cheated zero days this month so far, and I intend not to at all, what with fewer than two weeks left to go.

But I wanted to, I guess I wanted to extol the virtues of it to you guys, if I might for a moment. You know, you lose weight. The average dry January participant loses I think about four or five pounds over the course of the month. I've lost more than that because going to the gym every day. At the moment as well, liver function improves, chances are getting cancer declines almost immediately. And you know my experiences with it. Yeah, okay, I struggled to sleep a little because I was using

alcohol as means by which to knock me out. I've had a little a few withdrawal symptoms, get a little bit twitchy here and there, and I am hungry a lot, But I guess that's probably partly because of the workouts

as well. But I suppose my favorite part of it is that, you know, well, come February first, quite frankly, which I intend to call wet February, but come February first, and especially during the Christmas period, where you've got all these parties to go to and family to see it, etc. And the egg nog and the wine and the champagne and the beer is flowing, you can be a little bit more loose about it, or loose about it without feeling as guilt because you know that you're getting that

detox in January, don't you know. If you want to read my column on it, it's up at the American Spectator, that spectator dot org on the world Wide Web. It's called Here's how Dry January makes Me better than you. It came out a few hours ago, and he's getting good reception from my friends. A couple of the Puritan in the comic, A couple of the Puritans in the comments section say it's a disgusting article. It shouldn't even be there talking about hole horrible things like booze. But yeah,

I just want to talk about that. If you don't mind, and if you do, sorry too late. We're gonna go to a quick break now. When we come back. Ian Walters, who's one of the execs at the American Conservative Union, they've got a big conference coming up called see Pack, the Conservative Political Action Conference. It will actually be my tenth See Pack this year. If Ian allows me to attend, we'll ask him live on air, put him on the spot.

Is henna? Is he gonna let me in? I'm looking forward to talking to a good buddy of mine, Ian Walters in just a moment, stay too. We'll be right back here on the buck Sexton Show after this break. Welcome back to the Buck Sexton Show. I'm Rahee Kasam, broadcasting live from Washington, d C. The last few moments here, I wanted to spend it with my good buddy, Ian Walters, the communications director at the American Conservative Union. Ian Good evening him, how do you do, my friend? I do

very well. As you know, I m You've got Seapack coming up, which I know elicits great excitement and nausea within you. It's architect check mostly true. Tell us about Seapack, tell us why people should be involved, And as I promised the audience I would do, I want to put you on the spot and say, it's going to be my tenth year attending Seapack. Will you let me in the front doors? We'll have to see how you behave for the rest of the rest of the buck Sexton show.

My gut says, and I'm not my gut is not often wrong that there will be a Rahim Kassam sighting Seapack in all right, warm or another. So tell us what is seapack Ian Well, thank you? What is Seapack? Because we've got very little time, so you stop flattering me and start start pitching Seapack. What is it, who's coming, what are the speakers? Who are the speakers you've announced so far? And why should people take the what I call Well, I was born into a Muslim family, right,

and I left Islam ten years ago. But the pilgrimage I do every year is to Seapack, And why should other people do that pilgrimage? Nah? Well. Seatpack, of course, stands for the Conservative Political Action Conference and it's the largest annual gathering of conservatives on the planet Earth. We've been putting this together since nineteen seventy four and it's where Ronald Reagan got his start before he was president.

And the event was really founded as an avenue for Ronald Reagan's style of conservatism to have an opportunity to go mainstream and to bring people together conservatives of all stripes. And we've remained true to that vision as much as we can. It is overwhelmed in the past fifteen years with students. We're somewhere between fifty percent and fifty five percent every year, with a lot of college students who are very excited, who are active on their campuses. That

being said, this is an event for everybody. Oftentimes people will come up to this all who can go to Seatpack. Can I go to seapack where hem? Everybody can go to sea Pack And all you have to do is go to seapack dot org and get yourself a ticket, and we want to have all of your listeners and friends there this year. One of the first speakers we announced was broadcast legend Mark Levin his wonderful wife Julie Strausse.

Levin gave a presentation last year on immigration and what activists have to do in order to save the republic. And Mark is very sophisticated and understands that young people are often the battleground, that a lot of the fights conservatives fights are generational. Uh my folks, UH fought the fights of their generation. You and I are fighting the fights of our generation. And uh and my kids and God willing one day your kids will will will fight

the fights and we'll pass the torch to them. Don't you don't you wish that stuff on me? Oh oh, come on, she'll be She'll be a lucky girl. That's spression, but one of the wonderful aspects of it. And if you were to just read the mainstream media press reports of this thing, you would get the wrong impression. You would think that we were all dancering around with horns and tales and doing god knows what. But the fact is I am doesn't get reported. Is what a fantastic

and positive and good energy type of eventnesses. There's a very you know, the professional term would be, well, it's a great networking opportunity, which is, but on a human level, it is a designed specifically to remind conservatives of all stripes that you're not alone, and that throughout the year you ought to stay in contact with each other, share resources, and that when we work together we can we can achieve great things. And especially when we take on the left.

Our registration numbers are up significantly this year, and folks have asked me, well, why do you think that is? And when it's all said and done, we'll do post events surveys and have better data on it. My sense is that something happened um in Laton twenty eighteen with the Brett Kavanaugh hearing in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee, where conservatives understood what the left was about and that

they were about destroying and pushing off the grid. The folks that are in alignment with you and I and I think we're enjoying a moment in American conservatism where we're getting over petty squabbles. We understand what's at stake, we understand what the other team is seeking to achieve, and we're ready to fight. We're ready to do it

with smiles on our faces. Well, look, Ian, that's all well and good, but when the bloody hell is it February twenty seventh to March second, that's February twenty seventh to March second. We are forty some days away from this extravaganza. It is a four day event. The first day is dedicated to activism training, where we have the best campaign trainers and media trainers in politics assembled and all of our attendees are welcome to learn from these

guys take notes. It's a dynamic classroom setting where you get equipped with the skills that you can take back home to be successful in your communities and figure out how to organize people to stand up for what you believe in. Look, you know people will be thinking, Raheym, why have you just let somebody on to advertise for the last segment of this show? And the truth is because I really truly believe in it. I love it. I don't receive any payment or inducement to do so.

I have been going now this will, as I say, be my tenth year in attendance and whether as in the past couple of years, and I've spoken there, but I've also learned so much from attending the events and attending the panel discussions, meeting people. I can honestly say, with my hand on my heart, Ian that without seapack in the American Conservative Union. There would be no Rahem kassam. Now you now you have to wear that around your neck unfortunately for the rest of your life. But you

know it's true. I would have made never made the friends, never made the inroads I've made into conservative media and political spheres were it not for what you guys do. So we've got about five seconds left, so just say thank you and goodbye and thank you goodbye, and I hope that all of you will join us. Go to seatpack dot org to learn more. That was Ian Waltz as a great friend of mine and a wonderful musician. By the way, if you look him up online you'll

find more of his work. And of course you know you can't spell Walter's without wall, so we love me even more. This has been the Buck Sexton Show. I have been and will remain. Raheem Kasam. You'll be joined by the best a man can get tomorrow, Buck Sexton. I want to say thank you to the wonderful, brilliant production staff of this program. They're absolutely brilliant, and you guys all have a great evening.