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coding the news and disseminating information which actionable intelligence? Or make no mistake American break You're a great American again. This is the Bucks Sexton Show. Homes CIA analysts. I can speak to three hours without a phone call. Try doing that sometime. If you ask them what can we do for you? What can we get you what you need? To a person, no matter where they work across this country, they say the same thing to me, stay home, Please

do what you can to keep cases down. So my question is how many of us who say we love them don't really show that love. My message for all of you on this day is show the love. Do what you can to keep cases down. Your choice isn't just about you. You know now that it affects others, including maybe them, And how about our government get them the damn ppe they need. Have it made in this country. Remember Rosie the Riveter. These are desperate times. Everybody says it.

How about having desperate times call for desperate measures. Really, America can't muster making gowns and masks when we made aircraft carriers and be twenty four bombers. Also, here's something else that would be really great for them, a new bill in the House from New York Congresswoman Carolyn Maloney. Now, the bill would forgive student debt for all healthcare workers who are literally putting their lives on the line to

save others. There's precedent for this. We do it for the military, and we should, oh my so much to work here there. Welcome to the buck, Sex, and show everybody appreciate you joining. Well, that's starting to get a little sunni or a little warmer here in New York, thank god. So that'll be helpful hopefully wherever you are

across the country. The weather is improving, when your own lockdown, when the country is in as difficult as a position as it is right now, anything that you can look to as improvement, you got to celebrate a little bit right, so better whether even the small things you have to become appreciative of. But here we have not the Governor Cuomo, but in fact bro Cuomo, the CNN anchor who managed to turn his own case of COVID nineteen into a piece of performance theater, as we saw when he emerged

from a basement on CNN. And we all know that he had already left the basement, gone out, and he was infected with COVID nineteen. And here he is lecturing the rest of us. If you care about nurses and first responders, if you really want to help them, you know what you'll do. Stay home, stay home. We're now on two months of staying home. We're gonna get to what three months of staying home? Four months of staying home. At some point I'm just going to say no, I

think a lot of other people are already there. In New York we have a greater risk than other places across the country. Not every place, but New York has been, as we've discussed many times, particularly hard hit by this. But now we reach this stage where we understand what the economic consequences are starting to look like. We haven't seen the full scope of it, and I've just got to say, the hypocrisy from bro Cuomo here is pretty stunning.

This is someone who just like George Stephanopolis, when he's been seen walking around, you know, without his mask on, and he's lecturing everybody else about how he needs to how they need to be wearing masks. This has become a big exercise in virtue signaling for people, you know where where your mask be a good patriot even though wearing masks outside all the evidence, all the data shows

that it is not in fact necessary. I mean for some of you, if you want to do it, that's up to you, but it's not something that people should should certainly be legally obligated to do in public. And so this is where I've got to say, it's it's time for us to start having more frank conversations about what we really think is going to happen here. It's easy to lecture everybody about how just stay home protect our frontline healthcare workers. What does the rest of society do?

We can leave until when when does lockdown end? What are we really going to do if lockdown can continues for another six, nine, twelve, eighteen months. We were told all along that we would not get to this point. We were told that this was about flattening the curve,

making sure that hospital capacity was not overwhelmed. Now we're being told that it's we have to live in this really perpetual state of lockdown until the vaccine comes along, and who knows when that will be, but we'll be in this perpetual state of lockdown until the Libs decide that it's okay. And increasingly, I've got to say it feels like it's going to be right around mid to late November twenty twenty when really we can start talking

about the lockdown's ending. I wish it weren't the case that it were this blatantly political, but I think we've gotten there already because you can't make the case there is no case that we would be wise to continue doing what we do given what we know about the virus.

I mean, here is now, there is Bro Cuomo. Do we even lift Bro the CNN anchor who has managed to become more prominent over there than ever based on a whole bunch of things, including threatening to throw a substantially smaller weaker man down a flight of stairs in a crowded public restaurant in the very fancy vacation resort of Shelter Island, knowing that he was on video and really showing everybody what a tough guy he was. Some

conservatives thought that that was a good reaction. No, you can mouth off to somebody when they mouth off to you in public, But to square off against them when you have your wife and kids nearby and they're clearly not a physical threat to you, and to threaten to throw them down a flight of stairs when you're a public figure, when they've made no physical threat against you, No, I think that was crazy, and I'm surprised that that people look at to each his own, but I'm surprised

that people thought that that was a normal response. If someone threatens you, yeah, then you then you can threaten them back. But if someone just calls you a name you don't like, I could call names I don't like. All the time people say stupid, mean things to me. I honestly, I'm gonna fight you. So that's what that's what idiots do. I'm gonna fight you spend well, especially online on Twitter, right, I'm never going to see these people, know,

what are we really gonna do? Although I do think the Bucks exit Alex Jones charity boxing match would probably be that would probably be quite entertaining for folks. So anyway, the the problem that we're running into is that they're moving the goalpost, pretending to like they're not, and there there is no exit plan from the lockdown for the libs. They've set all these different uh, these these different trip wires,

if you will. They've put in place all of these benchmarks that we have to hit that they know we're not going to hit. So then it just turns into their discretion because what's gonna happen is they're going to start to have to waive certain benchmarks and say, Okay, we're gonna ease this, We're gonna ease that. You know, California is moving to open retail stores next week. You know, there's all this good news, and then there are still people that are, oh, no, coronavirus. We can't leave, we

can't go outside. But if you look at what's happening around the world, there's good news from the perspective of opening back up societies. Germany's opening up. Italy is in the stages of reopening Spain places that have been hit terribly by the disease. Are saying, look, we we got to start living life again. So why is it that America is the country that we're all a second wave and we can't go outside. Here's Governor Cuomo in New

York and unfortunately, New York really is the template. Was used as the template for how the rest of the country needs to respond to this virus, which was wrong. But New York became the test case that everybody else had to rely on for their own reactions, and the data coming out of New York, we extrapolated from that what we should do for the rest the rest of the country. And it was a mistake. It was a mistake. Here's the governor of New York State telling us all

reacting to this stunning bit of news. You remember, we're told a lockdown is saving a lot of lives because lockdowns are preventing the spread of disease. Meanwhile, if you look at charts of different countries, every country has this. You know, you see a big spike in cases and then the drop off in cases. Now some you know, the numbers are different because the population sizes are different.

But whether they've gone with extreme lockdown or minimal lockdown like in the case of Sweden, the curve seems to be pretty much the same. So where is the where's the real benefit that we see from these lockdowns? It's always been assumed that if we do what they say with this, there'll be far few will is it far fewer cases in the long run or far fewer case there's week to week and extending it out because this is the concept that the people that are the lockdown forever.

This is what they don't understand. If you have a six month long run of this virus, and let's say you do the bare minimum of mitigation and you end up with one hundred thousand dead, which is it looks like right now we're heading for one hundred thousand dead between now in August. Whatever the models and the models keep changing. Who knows, the models are wrong all the time.

But if you're one hundred thousand dead, if we did extreme mitigation for let's say eighteen months, So if we kept the lockdown going for eighteen months and you still end up with one hundred thousand dead, have you really limited the infections or are you just slowing the speed with which people are becoming infected? Now? It's tough to answer that. They would say, well, no, you're at one hundred thousand and not two hundred thousand dead over the

same period of time. But is effectively everybody going to get Is everyone going to get infected with this over time, because then the mortality rate is very likely to be whatever whatever it is for the disease is what it's going to be over the overall population. Are we heading for actual slow speed herd immunity or do we think that somehow we're going to just stop the disease because the initial program it was fifteen days to slow the spread,

not to stop the spread. Now we've got people suggesting that we can stop the spread if only we stay home. This is where Governor Cuomo has got a problem though, because people are staying home and they're still getting infected. Play clip three. This is a surprise. Overwhelmingly the people were at home where there's been a lot of speculation about this. A lot of people again had opinions, a lot of people have been arguing where they come from

and where where we should be focusing. But if you notice, eighteen percent of the people came from nursing homes. Less than one percent came from jail or prison, two percent came from the homeless population, two percent from other congregate facilities, but sixty six percent of the people were at home, which is shocking to us disproportionately older, but by the way,

older starts at fifty one years old. Two thirds of people that are hospitalized with COVID, and the most recent, the most recent weekly data they have two thirds of them were on lockdown or staying home and they're still getting infected. So either you look at this and you say there are only a few possibilities here. You have people who are in the very limited travel they do, going to the grocery store, going to the pharmacy, still even doing that once or twice a week, getting acted

in numbers that are large enough to be concerning. We're still seeing a steady stream of infections here in New York, and then across the country you have more and more people who are still getting infected. But we're home. The cell phone data has showed that over ninety percent of people have been adhering to the lockdown based on the GPS monitoring that money it's monitoring. Talking about the master

valence state, we're already had a master valence state. It's just until somebody figures out how to really harness it and really use it. Well, they're called social media companies, buck, But this is where we are. We still, even with lockdown, have three hundred thousand This is from doctor Scott got Leave, three hundred thousand new cases a day. So all these people are saying we're saving all these lives through the lockdown. I mean we're going three hundred thousand cases a day.

How many cases day will we get if we went to work but still try to limit mask gatherings and took some of these, Oh, it will be a million a day. It will be ten million a day. And even with the lockdown. I mean, this is the people part of the false choice that's set up here. And I know this is all kind of it gets so conceptual and what's going on, But our society is at risk. I mean, our economy is dying. It is dying right now. I have the unemployment numbers and we'll talk about that

at a moment. But the people who don't want to reopen keep saying that people will die if we reopen, and you said this, well, people are dying right now, even with the lockdown, and we're having this enormous societal not just economic, I mean, our whole society is bearing this tremendous cost. And people won't soon forget the images of parents arrested in front of their children for going to play in a playground and law enforcement officers going

along with it. My friend, I know that you do not judge the whole community of hundreds of thousands of law enforcement officers across the country of the actions of any one, two, or a few dozen. But perception is a different thing from reality here, and we've had a few very bad looks of over zealous, over aggressive law enforcement with regard to the social distancing and the lockdown stuff. There's going to be a cost to that as well.

There's a lot that's going on here that is damaging to our society, damaging to our ability to feel good about who's in charge of this country at the state, local, and at the national level. And can we trust the bureaucracy?

The answers, no, you cannot trust the bureaucracy, And they've lied to us and they've been wrong, and now they're getting more as their theories fall apart, and as the data is increasingly not supportive of their positions, they're lying to us, and then they're getting more aggressive, right so we see that they've been wrong, and then they say, oh no, we weren't wrong, and the models don't really matter anymore. They keep shifting and changing. Meanwhile, people are

getting infected across the country. The economy is in free fall, and they act like we've gotten we've done some huge public service by locking down most of the United States. Europe is opening up. Are they a bunch of murderers? Are they a bunch of barbarians who don't care about

grandma dying? They're opening up? Sweden never really closed, but if you want to, if you want to start having people, you know, open up their flower stores and times and time for Mother's Day, you know, clothing stores open up, furniture stores, allow people to start going into offices providing different services, you know. And I'm not saying don't wear masks inside. I'm not saying don't wash your hands, and

we shouldn't protect the vulnerable. But what option are these people that think that it's it's so brave and bold to go on TV and say stay home, how long? How much longer? What are we trying to achieve. Give me the benchmarks about test and trace are absurd, they're insane. But it's all ultimately about another thing. And you know what it is. Who's going to get blamed. There's going to be death from COVID nineteen for the rest of

this year. It's one percent guaranteed. So now the discussion about reopening is really about who's going to get blamed for those deaths, not about how we stop them. You're in the freedom hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Call these people warriors, and I'm actually calling now, as you know, John, the nation warriors. You have to be warriors. We can't keep our country close down for years and

we have to do something. And hopefully that won't be the case, but it could very well be the case, and you won't be lucked in a house. And some people should stay if you're over a certain age. I mean, you see that right elderly people or especially elderly people with the problem where they have a problem. It attacks these people viciously, and I think they will be staying back,

and we're strongly recommending that they do that. We're saying over sixty, and especially over sixty if you have diabetes or heart problems or whatever problem you might so, but we have to get our country open again. And you see it. Look, you cover it. People want to go back. You're gonna have a problem if you don't do it. If you don't do it, you've got a very help.

We've got to go back. Trump is right. I hope that he's learned from listening to people who do not have not just the best interests of you know, the White House, but the American people do not have the best interest of the American people at heart. The left views this all as an opportunity. Unfortunately, thanks for listening to The bus Essence Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcast if the iHeart Radio app or wherever you get your podcasts evicted at this time through no fault

of their own. You know, my grandfather used to say, if you have your health, we can figure out anything else. We can fix anything else. If it's about money, we can we'll figure it out. But you have to have your health. That's why public health versus the economy, I don't see the trade off. Is it as easy as we can just ensure that everybody has their health. There are some very important. It's it's very important for us to understand. It's very important. False notions at the heart

of the lockdown consensus. They can't say people from getting this disease. They've said that, oh, we got to do this because he'd say, oh, well, they're they're mitigating it. It's meaning so few so far fewer people are getting this. Really are fewer people getting it in places like New York because a quarter of us have already been exposed

and have antibodies, and a lot of the most vulnerable people. Remember, your vulnerability to the disease isn't just a question of how badly your body reacts to it and how much it overwhelms your immune system. It's also the initial infection. So a lot of people who are particularly susceptible, clearly in New York and some other major urban areas, have already gotten the disease. So at some point, I mean, we talk about her immunity and nobody ever really thinks

this through true. Herd immunity means there are so many people with antibodies to the disease that there are not enough vectors of spread that even those without antibodies are at real risk of getting it, and for certain diseases, for something like like measles, for example, which is hyper contagious. I mean, I don't really understand the mechanism of why, but measles. It's like, if you're this is why they've even had these These people have done these parties for kids,

which I do not recommend. I don't have kids. I don anything about this stuff. But they'll have a party where one kid with measle shows up and all these other kids and they all get measles, right, I mean, this is what this is what ends. And it's like, if you show up, you're you're pretty much getting measles. The spread of the disease is much more difficult if there are people who have immunity all around you. Even if you don't have immunity, that's the basics of herd immunity.

And for some diseases it's it's more like eighty percent four measles, I think it's over ninety ninety five percent if you're going to have true heart. That's why the lowering of And I'm not getting into vaccination debates, and don't start sending me all that stuff. People I love you, don't start sending me all your vac stuff. But that's why when their vaccination level from measles drops down, there's all that people get all concerned. Just from a herd

immunity standpoint. They're saying, you're you're creating greaters. And this is why whooping cough and measles in recent years, they've been outbreaks in places. Okay, and now we look at what the lockdown consensus is promising us, which is that they're able to protect our health. But are they really we're doing exactly what they're telling us to do. We've been doing it for two months. How protected are we?

How much has it really worked in New York? Or had the virus already spread far and wide and the most vulnerable And we can't protect nursing homes. We've been talking about that. The authorities made, not just bet made the absolute wrong decisions about how to protect our seniors and nursing homes. So they keep taking this position of the moral high ground like they're you know, if it

saves just one life, they'll protect every life. And then we think about it, well, but you're not protecting every life, not even close. We're losing a lot of lives and suffering massive economic consequences and losing our constitutional rights, and honestly, at some point, what is the purpose? Why are people are going to start to say, why am I getting up and doing this every day? And this is what we're going to see? A spike and drug abuse and

suicide and overdose and all these things. We're still locked at our homeless what forever? And I hate this stuff when people say we're never return We're never returning to normal. You know what, shut up if you're saying that we're going to return to normal. All right, we had fifty million people die from Spanish influence in nineteen eighteen. You know, nineteen eighteen was followed by the Roaring twenties. We're going

to return to normal. I hope the cost is nowhere near and I don't believe it will what it was in nineteen eighteen. But you know, if we can survive that, we are going to get through this and return to a place where people can gather and people can do things, and you know, maybe, just maybe there there'll be a

few benefits of this. You know, the silver linings of it will be pretty substantial, like, for example, the lunacy within the scientific community that they need to focus billions and billions of dollars and have all these conferences about climate change because by the IPCC projection, the inter Governmental Panel on Climate Change at the UN, by their projection, we might be two degrees celsius warmer in one hundred years,

and that will destroy the planet. Let's worry about not having a pandemic disease destroy modern civilization like now and for the next ten years. How about that that would be a better usage of time. You know that, you who've been listening to the show, I've made this point many times before. There are real this is people know I've been bringing up antibiotic resistant bacteria and really frightening

stuff that's out there. I have mentioned pandemics way before this actually happened as what I'm scared about or what keeps me up at night, anybody with a passing familiar And you know, how do I know that stuff. I'm not a scientist history. I know more history than a vast majority of scientists that I can tell you because

I love history and read it all the time. And if you understand history, you know what the real risks are, and you know what the real risks are not and the people that are claiming we're all going to run out of food or that the world is going to melt because of co Two. They've been wrong in the past, there will be wrong in the future, and there are reasons why they continue to allow their brains to make these same errors and try to push all the rest

of us us into believing them as well. But back to the governor here health, we should protect human life. I don't care if a person is old. You know, I'm old by your definition. I still think I have a value. Right My mother's old, you know, she's the most precious person to me. So protect every life and I'm not going to trade off public health, and We'll figure out the dollars and we'll figure out the economic impact. You know what Venezuela looks like. You see the news

footage of it. I'm sure sometimes Venezuela is a is an impoverished socialist narco state and is run by narco traffickers. This is what you know. We have all these people who don't even understand how poor the country is. Because the reason that Maduro and his thugs are even able to feed themselves and pay the army and stay in charge is because they're selling cocaine and heroin on the global market. Yeah, that's right. You know you don't see a lot of that, and I do want to spend

some time. I want to deep dive into it. So and Producer Mark remind me on this one, and maybe we'll get one of our many spec ops friends to join. You know, it actually be great if we can have. Maybe we'll reach out to Jack Carr, whose book is doing so well right now, Savage Son, which I'm listen. I am listening to the audiobook of it, and it's what I do when I'm doing chores and things like that. When I say chores, that doesn't sound manly, right, is there,

Proucer Mark? Is there a more manly word for chores household tasks? There we go doing my household tasks, thank you. I mean it does sound a bit like I'm a butler. Oh hello, I'm doing my household tasks. But it's better than chores. Choice sounds like, oh, I'm just gonna go do my chores now. But yeah, I listened to Savage Son.

It's it's excellent so far. I'm a few chapters in. Well, maybe we'll have him or we have so many people from the spec OPS side who could talk to us just about I mean, how how crazy it is that this guy is. I've just seen the beginnings of it. I'm going to dig into more. I'm gonna talk to some friends in the community too, to see what's going on here by this guy who is SF who wanted to have a coup, basically be a one man coup

against Maduro. I mean, I joke around with friends of mine all the time that, you know, when I had enough agency and spec Ops guys all drinking together, you know, hey, you've got enough enough brain power and firepower here to overthrow a small country. But we're kidding. It seems like maybe this guy didn't think that that people were kidding when they talk like that. So we'll we'll get into

that tomorrow. I think that's a fascinating situation. But but I bring up Venezuela because the way that Cuomo talks about things, if you have your health, you have everything, well, you know, it's really hard to stay healthy when you don't have an economy. It's really hard to stay healthy. Think of all of the people out there right now who don't have COVID nineteen but have serious health problems. And what happens when they can't get routine medical care.

What happens when they have to wait for chemo, for surgeries, for all kinds of heart procedures, which is happening all over the country. What happens to your health when you are told to stay indoors, not see your loved ones, not enjoy life. Okay, watching Netflix and eating ice cream is fun for a week or two, it has now become sad. We don't want to do this anymore. Well, we want to do it sometimes, but we don't want to do it all the time, all right, which is

basically where we are right now. You cannot have a healthy society if you do not have a functioning society. Ask any prisoner. Take a look at anybody who's ever been sent to federal prison. And I mean, it's a stark reminder of really how brutal prison life really is

psychologically and physically. And I don't just mean because of the possibility, the high probability of being assaulted and physically abused inside a prison, which says a lot about our state and instability to protect people that are in its custody. Conversation for another time, but if you find any if you look at anybody who's gone into federal prison, they look I mean, they usually lose a ton of weight, their cheeks become sunken in, their eyes become lighter. I mean,

they just they look worn and defeated. We're doing this to ourselves increasingly as a society. We're making people worn out and defeated. Can't see your family, can't see your friends, can't do your job, can't really go out. And let's be honest about this. Going out with a mask outside is better than nothing, but it's not great. It's not great. I want to breathe fresh air. I don't want to be sucking in some cotton mask made in China, thank you very much. That's not what I that's not what

I want. Oh, but it's fine, and you have to do it to protect other people. You know. Cuomo is representative of this mentality that we have control over this. And this is where you get to a fundamental philosophical distinction between the lockdown consensus and the Reopen the reopened movement. The lockdown consensus suggests that if only we listen to them, lives will be saved, and that's all that matters. The reopen.

The Reopened movement is saying lives are being lost. You can't stop the spread of this disease, not even close. And you're destroying everything around our society by doing this lockdown, and you've changed what the initial mission is and you won't give us an end date. When is enough enough? And now we're hearing, oh by about the second the

second wave. Here's a little fact that if there's going to be a second wave, because we start living life normally again, there will be a second wave in June, or in September or in January. It doesn't matter. It's coming if what we're doing isn't enough, meaning if the mitigation and if we're not able to get therapeutics and get research going that would prevent a second wave. If what we're doing isn't enough, it doesn't matter if we open next week or next month. The second wave is coming,

my friend. Now, I don't think it is. I don't think it is. Remember this too, what happened to the Spanish flu. We didn't beat it, we didn't even understand. This will give you a sense of how well this is a whole other conversation. But we think that our medical Our medical world is so advanced and so sophisticated, and really, I mean you go back one hundred years, and our knowledge of medicine was primitive, and I mean around the whole world, I mean, the smartest doctors, our

knowledge in nineteen twenty, nineteen eighteen primitive, we were. We were at the basics the early phase of medical knowledge. And yet the Spanish flu faded away. Now, how did that happen? A lot of people got infected, a lot of people had immunity, and then the human race just moved on. We will get past this, It is a guarantee. In the mean time. What we're trying to figure out is what kind of countries and societies and lives will we be able to lead now and after this thing passes.

And as I've been telling you, lock yourself up and hide from all of this, for everybody, for some people that have particularly high vulnerability, but also remember that the people that have particularly high vulnerability, If we could focus energy and protection measures on those who do feel they're at higher risk, wouldn't we then be in a better position to make sure that they're living fuller, better, longer, healthier,

happier lives. Right, if we did have procedures in place to make sure that you know, if you're going to go to a nursing home to visit your loved ones, gosh darn it, you know that we're going to check and make sure you're totally clear of the virus, and that we have the best measures in place, and that you can if you are going to go and see your loved relatives there, you can do so without endangering them. That kind of focus and those kinds of procedures would

make things better for everybody. But instead, what we have is this slap dash approach of well, you know, we're going to protect everybody, but we're going to send New York, New York State, it's going to send people with COVID nineteen back into the nursing facility and tell us all that they care so much about protecting lives. Cost doesn't matter,

Cost doesn't matter. Huh. Interesting for the State of New York to say that, especially given that they were unwilling to make additional to take additional precautions and procedures in order to protect those who are most vulnerable from this. The moral blackmail we all face on this question is going to be massive. People don't want to admit that they were wrong. They want to have that They have this need to believe that the scientific consensus is accurate

and will protect them. And they also do want to use this as the ultimate issue. This from a purely political perspective, put aside all the human death and carnage and the terrible stuff that's going on here. Just from a purely political perspective, this is the biggest opportunity the Democrats could have possibly been given by circumstance, an economy that is crashing and all this blame that they're trying to put on Trump so they can put forward a

pathetic Cannian. Joe Biden's a pathetic candidate for the presidency. We all know that. But they might get it. They might get it done because of circumstance, and they're not letting that go. You're in the Freedom Hut. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Look his astory. There's nothing I can do to satisfy the media, the Democrats for the fakes. And I understand that we did the greatest mobilization and history with the ventilators, and I don't think

there was a story. What a great job we did. Now we're helping Germany, and we're helping many other countries France, Spain and in Italy by the way, and Nigeria sending two hundred and fifty to Nigeria ventilators and too much ago we didn't have any ventilators for ourselves. We were the coverage were bare right, there were people have no idea. There's not a thing I can do to satisfy the fake news, and there's not a thing I can do

to satisfy democrats. It's true. Just look at the ventilator story. And we were we were in a national mass panic over our ventilator deficit. And now we're like the ventilator superpower of the planet. In fact, we are the ventilator superpower of a planet. You don't see a lot of stories about that. To you, not much less interest. Trump wasn't using the Defense Production Act. I saw so many

journals making that case. And then he did use the Defense Production Act and we got plenty of and he already had been negotiating with companies, and we got plenty of ventilators. Now more than we need. We're giving him other people. Oh but Trump didn't He doesn't act fast enough. They say these people are full of it. Thanks for listening to The Bus Sesson Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the iHeart Radio app, or wherever you

get your podcasts. Are we going to see a fourth simulist or do you think you're going to wait and see how the first three are working? To people ask me, I remind them that we have no money. We have no rainy day account, we have no savings account. The three trillion that we've already passed out is imaginary money. It's being borrowed, basically from China. So the irony is we got the virus from China, and now we're going to be more dependent by borrowing more money from China.

The only thing that recovers our economy is opening the economy. It's not a lack of money, it's a lack of commerce. If you let people have commerce, if you let them trade, if you take them out from forcible home arrest, our economy will recover. But if you keep everybody out of your home arrest and say you cannot practice your business, you cannot sell your goods, they will continue to be

economic calamity. And all these blue state governors who don't want to open their state delly are clamoring for federal money to bear him out because no state revenues coming in, don't have any money. What could be more straightforward than what Rand Paul is saying? And yet it feels like Rand Paul here is a breath of fresh air. You know this. I've always thought that Senator Paul was a guy who does does believe what he says. I mean, he is a believer in the ideology of limited government

and and liberty. I'm wouldn't even call I wouldn't even call libertarianism because Rand Paul is not really a classic libertarian in some ways, but an ideology focused on liberty and limited government. I think Rand Paul's a believer. I've always had a, you know, not a personal soft spot for the guy, but I feel like he's been because

I mean, I don't know him. I've only interviewed him a couple of times, and in interviews, I'm gonna say he's kind of like, well, you know, it's sound like I'm a little bored, and you know, he's not really that. He doesn't really love talking to the media. I get the I think he likes TV. Don't think he really loves doing radio. But he's he seems to me like a principled politician. Now that doesn't that's not the same thing as saying someone's perfectly principle. That just means that

for a politician. I think that rand Paul does stick to stick to what he believes for the most part, and that's impressive to me, or at least it's noteworthy to me. But look, he's saying, we can't. There is no restoring the economy without getting back some of the reserves areaIn the economy without pulling back on these lockdowns. There's no way we can do it. There's nothing that we can do that will pull back the law that will restore the economy unless we pull back the lockdowns.

And that then gets me to you know, I had a very interesting exchange on Twitter, so it's public, so I'm not I'm not, you know, but betraying any kind of confidence or anything. I mean, I never would, but I had an instrink back and forth with somebody who is a He is a guy who founded a very large I believe it was a genetic research company. But his name is Balaji Srinivazen. And I know about this guy,

or I think it's actually pronounced Balaji. We have a mutual friend told me this guy is really smart, and he's a little bit more of a He doesn't believe that we should have the country lockdown forever, and he understands the pain that people are feeling right now. But he's a pretty pro lockdown guy. And so we have this exchange. I wanted to share with you about the different you know when you deal with someone on this issue who it seems is actually smart from the other side.

Here's kind of how this goes. You had Bethany Mandel, who some of you know is a conservative conservative author and writer, and she wrote the following, and this is an exchange that all happened. I thought this is worth sharing. In this, she wrote, you can call me a grandma killer. I'm not sacrificing my home, food on the table, all of her docs and dentists, every form of pleasure, museums, zoos, restaurants, all my kids teachers in order to make other people comfortable.

If you want to stay locked down, do I'm not. And then sure, it doesn't mean it won't be done responsibly, but I am just I am done. I feel lied to about the terms of this lockdown, and I regret ever trusting that it would be done responsibly. I think she's right. I mean, I think that's a that's an appropriate response to the lockdown response. I think that this is well within where we should be given what we've

been put through as a country at this point. And what they've said is now, this gentleman, mister Balaji Balaji came forward and you know, look, this is where it's so rare to find some on the other side. So someone who's pro lockdown, who's who's smart and not a shrill screaming you want to you want to kill Grandma maniac.

So this is why I wanted to share this with you, because I keep giving you, I keep having people on the show who are generally speaking with me and being skeptical that the response was necessary of the national lockdown at least, and that you know, there's no politics involved in this with the anti Trump side, But here's how the other side approaches it. Those who are trying to at least engage, well do you agree with this or not?

At least they're trying to engage. I wish people ask me often, why don't you have liberals on the show disagree with you because it just escalates. And if you have on radio people who all of a sudden are shouting or trying to talk over each other, it's just bad. It's bad. And also you know, it's you have limited time and to have a debate format and radio, especially if you're going to have the host, I mean, I determine what the time is, right, I determine how much

people get to speak on this show. Like radio, the host of a radio show is the king of the kingdom, and so to have somebody else on if you're going to debate, um, this is why. Like one of the one of the cheapest things is when you know they love to some hosts love to do this. They'll take a call from someone who's clearly you know, conservative, will take a call from a host who's a guest rather who's clearly an idiot and not actually up for the debate of challenging them and just yell at them and

call them an idiot on TV. You know, this is a little bit like, uh, the the conservative radio equivalent of somebody who wants to watch those videos of like the jackass guys back in the day, who would you remember those guys Mark who would like light m eight s in their underwear and do crazy stuff like that. You know I'm talking about. Yeah, of course the jackass guys. Yeah,

the jackass guys. You know, yeah, I mean you kind of watch it, but you know, you know it's really not you know, and just having somebody on air anything an idiot. You're an idiot, You're dumb, you know, yelling at people and being it doesn't help anybody. It doesn't help anybody, and it's cheap, it's cheap theater. So I want this guy, Balaji. I mean, I can't get them to join me on Well, actually you know what, I'll

ask if we'll join me on radio. I feel like he'd say no, but I'll ask him if he'll join me on radio. We'll see um. But he said, one problem with this logic then this is in response to bethany One problem with this logic is that the economy is other people. So if older people stay home along with millions of cautious people, plus many tourists and business travelers, you don't actually get the economy back. Other countries have

contained the virus. It's doable. So he's saying, we need to get to full on containment and then we end the lockdowns. I think that that's almost impossible, and if we wait that long, the economy will be dead. But this is actually where the debate is among serious people. So I responded to him, and I said, when people see lots of folks who are low risk under fifty going about their daily lives just fine, other people will

become less scared and economic activity will grow over time. Essentially, let people who are at low risk and who are willing to take that risk engage in more activity, and not just economic activity, engage in more of day to day life. Okay, Balaji wrote back to me, over fifties are thirty percent of the population andicantly more of the net worth. If you add in folks with pre existing conditions, a big chunk of the US, white collar folks, foreign tourists,

that's a big chunk of the economy. I guess we'll see. Now, see you notice that's that's a signal when you're in this world of fighting. This guy's a blue check with a with a pretty big following. You know, I'm a blue check with a big following or pretty big following, whatever reasonably considerable following on Twitter. And but when someone says something like I guess we'll see. Oh oh, you mean they actually want to have an exchange of ideas because they know they don't know you're one of my

recurring mantras here on the show, my recurring theme. Some of you may not like the mantra term, right, but some of the recurring themes that we have are things like no one can predict the future, and people who tell you they can are lying to you. Thinking that their analysis may be good about the future is one thing, but if they tell you they can see the future, they're lying to you. So the fact that he just said, I guess we'll see. Man, Okay, Well, now here's someone

unlike the you want to kill grandma. You know, you have so much that you want grandma to die. You know, it's usually grandma too, not grandpa. I think that's a very interesting but it's always you want grandma to diet. It's become the line, which is a horrible and stupid thing to say. I mean, I love my grandparents very much. Unfortunately they've all passed along a long time ago. But this is just when people are trying to shut others

down through a loud moral blackmail. So to his points though, to his points here about how over fifties or thirty percent of the population, that's a fair point, and that there's a lot of wealth concentrated in the over fifties as well. Okay, but let's now, let's now look at this for a second. If people are returning to work who are at low risk and therefore exposing themselves, many of them already have I mean, I think it's fifty fifty. I have antibodies, And that's just a guess. I don't know.

I don't I think it's fifty fifty. Given the situation that I was in here in New York during the maximum spread of the disease, a lot of people under fifty already have antibodies. If they return to work, they will be possibly exposed, but then they will get antibodies. Maybe they'll get sick for week or two, and a very very small percentage might end up in the hospital and being really bad shape. But it's a very small percentage.

But that means more and more people, as we're in the reopening, we'll have anybodies, which means that the vectors we start getting to this herd immunity concept, the vectors for the spread of the disease are fewer, and then you have people who perhaps are in their fifties and maybe even going up in their sixties, who start to feel more comfortable because it's less likely that the younger people that are already out there and working, it's less

likely that they'll be a high risk of contracting the disease from them. And you see there's a snowball effect. I would also point out that we already have essential workers who are going out and doing their jobs. So we've taken a segment of the economy and said, well, that part of the economy is going to still go. It's not like we're in a true lockdown, and there are some risks to those essential workers and to people

that are coming into contact with them their family. This is how we get to continue spread of this disease even though we're all supposed to be on lockdown. But see, my point is if we add low risk workers into the mix here to the essential workers, we start we're expanning the economy. We're returning and getting closer to normal. And then he gave me a graph of the percentage of age percentage, which was just a helpful data point,

and we clarified that. And then I said, as for waiting until new infections are zero for reopen, which is this is where I have a disagreement with mister Bology. Sixty six percent of New York Hospel admissions, as we talked about here earlier in the show, we're from people locked away in their homes. The virus is still spreading, and the virus is still going up in many places

across the country. So unless people believe that we're going to go to an even more extreme lockdown phase than what we're already in, which to me just sounds completely insane, we're never going to get to full containment of the disease, are our current projections a country this size, of this many people we have to, you know, and unless we're gonna say there's no such thing as essential workers anymore.

No no one unless you work in a doc, unless you work in a hospital and you're trying to treat COVID patients, everyone just stay home, and we're just gonna, like, you know, live on the food you got in your fridge for a week or two or a month. Now, a lot of people say, buck, I mean, people don't have food. I know. That's why it's crazy. You can't do this right. You can't actually completely freeze the economy

or people literally will go hungry and starve. So, uh, you know, that's that's why I that's what I gotta do. And then I also said to him, docs, I've spoken to say with velocity and scope of Oh no, I asked him about your thoughts on test and trace and he said docks. And I said, Docs, I've spoken to with about the velocity and scope of existing spread and deploying tracers across the country to hotspots, this is going to be minimally helpful. I'm gonna be right on this one.

This test and trace theory, this is, this is absurd. This is not gonna work. I mean, people that are saying it's gonna work done what we're talking about. We also have many empty testing facilities, I wrote, all over the country already, and with asymptomatic spread, it seems unless we're going to force everyone to get tested every two weeks, the value of a national testing surge will be limited. So you know, this is and and then we had a nice I said, you know, thank you for your time.

He said, thank you for your time we had. We had a kind of a nice close And so, you know, this is if you really want to have a debate with somebody about what's going on, this is where it is. Can we get to the point where we fully control this virus and there's almost no risk of going outside, and can we do that without destroying the economy and

ruining our society? I say no. Some people say yes, and they'll point to particularly other countries that they say have controlled the virus very very well so far, Australia being one of about Australia, remember where they're on the flip of us see in terms of their seasons on the flip side. I'm wondering how well they'll do this summer. And also some countries have a much less dense population.

And you know, there's just certain things about America that it's going to make it very hard to fully control the disease. And we're losing you know, I haven't even mentioned you yet because I got all fired up about this, but we've got three point two million people who have filed for unemployment for the first time last week. That brings the total number of jobs lost during the coronavirus crisis to thirty three point five million. We are heading

to forty maybe fifty million lost jobs from this. Now. I saw this on the Wall Street Journal, I believe was the Wall Street Journal. It was a poll that said seventy seven percent of laid off workers think that they will return to their old job after the stay at home orders home. Well, you know that we're getting close to eighty percent of people think they're just going to take their own job. This is where I have to say, I hope they're right. I am pretty confident

they're wrong. The costs that have been that have mounted for these businesses, and also what the businesses will be able to operate at even when the lockdowns end, it's going to be a very meager income stream for a lot of businesses once they open their doors. This is going to be a long, drawn out, phased in process no matter what. And that's if they make the right decisions and stop saying, oh the second wave and we're

all gonna die. And you know, if they take if they take the right path here, it's still gonna be painful, it's still gonna be difficult. So I don't think that eighty percent or so of these of people who think this, I don't think they're correct. I think that they're gonna be a lot of lost jobs and jobs that aren't coming back because they are industries that won't be able to sustain even when they reopen, won't be able to sustain the workforce that they once did. What do we

do with that? But for the forever lockdown crowd, we are not South Korea, we are not Australia, we are not Japan, and no one can even figure out what they've done that we haven't done that would let us even try to get to the level of virus control that's so far they've had. I mean, people will say test and trace, but that doesn't make any sense. Asymptomatic spread is fifty percent of the disease. You're going to

test and trace three hundred and thirty million people. Think about this, Think about the infrastructure and the resources and the cost of even trying to do this. It's just not even gonna Meanwhile, we're getting three hundred thousand infections a day, you know, one tenth of one percent of people are actually getting hospitalized, and we're dying from this, which means you're getting every day, you know, every few days a million more people who are gonna end up

with antibodies. Every few days, a million more people we're gonna end up with antibodies. I mean, it seems like we're just heading toward a her community. We just won't talk about it that way because we want to pretend that we can just save lives across the board without the economic costs. It's all very complicated. I mean, I'll admit that it's all very tough. And as mister Balaji says, we'll see you're in the freedom hunt. This is the Buck Sex and Show podcast. All right, got some good

news to share with all of you. You know, we talked about the story of Texas stylist Shelley Luther and who said that feeding her children was not selfish and that the people who worked for her who were going hungry themselves so they could feed their children and they wanted to go back and start styling people's hair again, they were not being selfish by doing their jobs. Well, darnatt, Texas is still Texas. It turns out, the Supreme Court of Texas has decided to order the immediate release of

jailed Texas Salon owner Shelley Luthor. She was sent ince to a week in prison by a judge who really did not do himself any favors in the way that that whole thing came out. And she now has a gofund me page that has raised five hundred thousand dollars for her. Yeah, still America, my friends, Still Texas for sure. She is released. Now, she has been released from prison. She's not going to spend seven days there. And these judges in the Texas Supreme Court said that the punishment

was excessive and the jailing was unnecessary. This is off from the local affiliate down in Dallas. No Texan quote should face imprisonment for peacefully resisting an order that temporarily closed a lawful business and drastically limited their ability to provide for their family through no fault of their own. God bless Texas. My friends doing the right thing, showing the country how it's done here, and God bless these judges for making the right call. That's what we like

to see. It does feel like America, after all, doesn't it. Thanks for listening to The Busson Show podcast. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcast, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, Team Bucks Special Treat today. And I've been trying to get this guy on the show for a while, but you know, he's got beautiful weather,

he's got to go out and serve sometimes. He's got his own fantastic three hour radio show on a wonderful station in San Diego that we now share KFMB, so, I mean, the best San Diego station that's out there, and he's doing a great show. He's also on the First which is on Pluto TV, where you can all see me and you can see Jesse Kelly, you can see Mike Slater, the one only Mike Slater of the MIC's later show My Friend. Finally, I'm glad that our

people were able to get through to your people. Yeah, right, like I have people. Welcome to my kitchen, Buck, Yeah, it's it's quite are I mean, it's funny because your kitchen is like twice the size of my New York apartment, which is yet again another reason another reason why I should be moving from New York City right away. Let's talk about Callie first. Go ahead, go ahead. I just say I think of you often. I'm not kidding because I think other than maybe like an Iowa meatpacking plant.

You might be in the worst place in the country right now, literally not only New York City. But you're like, like I can see behind you. You're like in the densest part of New York City. What in the world, Like, can you go outside? Like what do you do? Right? I can walk my dog through Times Square in less than three minutes from where I am on foot. That's

how close I am to the epicenter. And by the way, Time Square that area was the biggest outbreak of any zip code in Manhattan of the Five boroughs was Time Square. So basically I mean I live next to like the most hot zone in Manhattan, although there's other bigger hot zones in the Five Boroughs. And yeah, it's the most

densely packed part of the whole city. And during the maximum spread of the virus, I was on the subway because I do two radio shows, as I think you may know, I was on the subway four times a day, and it's one of the three most crowded subway lines. So to your question about whether I was at a high risk of acquiring this, it's like I was running an experiment saying, Hey, guys, I really want to get

COVID nineteen. That's what I was doing accidentally. But you're out there in sunny You're out there in sunny California, so tell me this. You know, people have been Honestly, a lot of people have been somewhat befuddled. Although I think you your weather, you're inherent social distancing of being in a car versus being a mass transportation And I would also say you're kind of generally healthier lifestyle. I know you guys have like pet therapists and do a

lot of like yoga and the sun. But yoga and the son is good for you, and and it's certainly less likely to get COVID nineteen than you would being indoors on a crowded subway. So how is California doing right now? Gavin Newsom saying that they may actually open up stores what next week? Getting Fridays the plan? And now there's a whole drama there, because classic Gavin K. Newsom, classic politician, is just like, oh, I think yesterday or Tuesday. He said, we're gonna open up stores on Friday and

we'll tell you which stores on Thursday. And it's like, well, geez, Gavin, Like, if you're a business owner, you don't. You can't just be like snabbed your fingers and open up twelve hours later. We need a little more advice. So we don't even know yet exactly what the details are on who's going to be allowed to open and whatnot. But I think San Diego in particular has done a really good job. I mean, our our healthcare capacity, we're like way under

the healthcare capacity of line. People have done a good job kind of staying put. But I also think people are ready to get back out there and get back out to the beach. Are your beaches open right now? I mean I know that near you. What is it to Lahoya? Is that where one of the places where they have those really beautiful beaches? I mean, could if I were out there visiting Shay Slater, could I go? Could I go to the beaches of Lahoya? Or are they shut downs? I don't I don't even know if

Buck Sexton could afford a house on the beach. Definitely, not not even close. Dude. I live in a one bedroom man, are you kidding me? Producer Mark needs to get me a guest bed. He actually has a real home. Far away from the water. But yeah, no, you can go. You know, you gotta move. You gotta be moving, you can't sit down all that stuff. But what's encouraging is our sheriff's actually done a pretty good job, even though

he's pretty question simble on a lot of things. And the Riverside County, which is just north the San Diego County, he just can't put out with a statement yesterday, I think, saying he's not going to turn Riverside County into a police state. He's not going to enforce you know, businesses who aren't doing their whatever they're supposed to do properly. He's going to trust the people to make the right decision and that has to be the proper posture moving forward.

I know you've talked about the salon owner out in Dallas, Luther seven days in jail, Like, what are you lady talking about? You know, they've ordered her, they've ordered her released. They've ordered her released. Oh yes, thank good. I mean they just ordered ad Like, what is that? What is the point of that? What are we even trying to prove with moves like that. Luckily, our law enforcement here is doing a pretty good job. And Orange County so that was a couple of days ago Gavin Newsom ordered

Orange County beaches closes closed. It's like like a punitive measure, like Orange County people, you didn't social distance enough, so I'm going to order just your beaches closed. But again checks and balances, the local sheriff and Orange County said, listen, I'm not going to enforce that stuff. You can go on the beach if you want at different times, and they're not cracking down on it like Gavin Newsom would want at least, and that's good. People are being pretty sensible.

I just feel like that's also it's so much more American to have people in positions of authority on issues like this say hey, guys, well I'm gonna trust you all to be responsible and I don't really even have. I mean, the legal authority for some of this stuff

is questionable at best. But they're just saying, look, I mean, we're this is a public information campaign, not a demand at at gunpoint campaign to do everything they say, especially given how much this stuff has been shifting in recent recent weeks, where you know what's safe, what's not, Where the information is actually taking us, Uh, you know, Governor k Newsom. It sounds like he hasn't been I mean Cuomo has now has has now gotten the buckster upset

with a lot of stuff that he's done. I mean, he's made some horrific decisions, and notably the stuff on nursing homes is just I can't believe with the incompetence has Newsom. You know, I'm thinking that the Democrats are gonna have to backfill somebody for Biden. And it's not I don't mean in a VP sends. I mean they're gonna just say, oh, it's not gonna be Biden. We've

been hearing this about Cuomo for a while. Newsome people also have been talking about a little bit is he you know, is he coming out of this whole situation looking pretty good? Maybe because California just is inherently a better off state to handle this because of what I said, you know, the weather and the things that you all about. Um,

but Houn's Newsom doing? What's the report card? Well? Yes, so, first of all, Newsom slick, right, and he's appreciating but like he's the slick politician, younger kind of hip cool, people love him, the gentle pre pandemic like people fall for his thing. You know what I mean. He's got like a kind of slick stir is smooth like I would I would buy. I would buy a vehicle or a gently used kitchen appliance from him, no question. God's goodness,

So it's worth for a long time. And listen, this is a conservative who has no love for Gavin Newsom. I think he's done a pretty good job. I'm giving a lot of grace. The name of the game for me this whole time has been grace to everybody, the politicians, to your neighbor, to everyone, because no one, like you said, no one really knows what's going on. We're starting to get a little better handle, but there's still so many unknown So a lot of these politicians I can give

a lot of grace to. But Gavin, there's some things done a pretty good job. Again, they're computatively shutting down the beach. Maybe he's holding onto power a little longer than he should. I think he needs to loosen the reins a little bit. But it looks like he is as he talked about kind of opening up businesses. I think he's an okay job. Now. The one big thing that we're gonna have to start getting some answers for it.

Is he spent a billion dollars on masks from China, and I know speed was important, so you've got to kind of balance that out when you know everyone is in full panic vote. But now we're getting reports that mask across the country from China like aren't even close to the N ninety five standards. It's like like fifteen percent of what the actual standard is. So one day we're going to find out the quality of these masks

that he bought for our billion dollars. And I'm sure there's I'm sure it's going to be like ten times the cost of what the masks normally are. But you know, he had to act fast and we'll see it. But that's like the one kind of big glaring thing that Gavin Newsom has done maybe wrong. Look that's from a conservative point of view. That's a pretty pretty strong report card. I'm seeing here, I think. So I'm seeing here the California. You know, Los Angeles has what over eight thousand, Los

Angeles County has twenty eight thousand. I know you're in San Diego, but twenty eight thousand confirmed cases, about thirteen hundred deaths, California is a fraction overall. What is a fifty four thousand confirmed cases for the whole state, and now that's confirmed cases with testing, right, that's not taking into account the urology extrapolation of how many people have antibodies to this. But you guys are at a fraction of the deaths that we have here in New York,

you have a larger population. It feels like California, you know, as much as the politics of it would dictate it opening much more slowly. It looks like you guys are coming out of this thing. Okay, am I missing something? Now? It's pretty wild And what's frustrating in the name of unknowns is we may never know why. We did a segment a while back about super spreaders and how a city can do all the things right, but one super spreader, I think in South Korea he was known as case

thirty one or thirty three or something. That one super spreader can like sneeze on a door knob and all these people get it and it spreads like crazy, and people are gonna look at all different areas in the country and around the world, and they're gonna try to come up with reasons they're like, oh, you know, the Italian's kiss on the cheeks, right, or this country doesn't have good healthcare, or people are gonna try to find like race angles or socioeconomic angles or whatever. People are

always gonna try to explain it. And honestly, it's especially because it could just be New York. I mean New York super dead, so that's kind of like something. But people be like, oh, there was just a couple of super spreaders and it just spread it way more, and there's really no answer. It just kind of happened that way. Well, you know, they be calipointed. There weren't a lot of

super spreaders. New York is in a sense thus super spreader because the evidence that they're they're point of view today on the front pages of a bunch of newspapers is that New York cases we essentially created this. You know, the Petri dish of New York was overflowing, and then travel from New York once it had spread all over

here to the rest of the country. See did outbreaks in Louisiana like for Marty Graf for example, seated outbreaks in Florida, in Michigan, in places all across the country, so one place, you know, you're talking about it on an individual level where one human being could end up being responsible for it. And then there was a I think there was also a case in South Korea somebody who went to a went to a church. Is that

is that the same? And then this might be a different one went to a church and like one hundred people in the church ended up getting infected somehow for whatever. Yeah, you know, so can you make like, so what kind of grand conclusions can you make about that area in South Korea about there's sozio economic levels or culture or whatever, when it was just like someone who went to church and sneezed a couple of times. What do you think?

What do you think is though it's hard to make conclusive state, what do you think of Governor Pritzker of Illinois saying, yeah, no church until there's a vaccine. I think people were like, what you know, settle down, settle down, Chubby Beelzebub, like, what are you doing. There's a couple power trips out there that we're seeing, right, So the the Harvard judge from in Texas that we were just talking about, like, that's a power trip. Move man to put that guy for seven seven days. Put that one.

There's another power trip move right, Like, if other businesses can have people keep their distance, then why couldn't a church also people keep their distance. That makes no sense. Why single out churches? I don't get that. I think that there's a hostility among people who love power of the state to the You know, they always talk about separation of church and state when they want to bash the church, and now all of a sudden, when the state has taken on all this power for itself, churches

are the the whatever whatever essential is. Churches are the opposite of essential to these people. Yeah, wow, that's interesting. Okay, so this is good. We need to keep them keep an eye off for the cincinnatiss So who are the cincinnatis is out there? Who are going to are you refer to the Roman general who is out Is this a Roman general called out of retirement to save the republic? Thing? Is that? Is that what we're going That's what I'm

talking about looking at you. One of his story, as you know, is he gave the power back, right, So who are the governors who are going to give this power back once they've had a blood lust taste for it? In a way that they haven't had in their career. Certainly, will they give it back to the bloke I think

you talked about it was like, no, he's not. And let me just reminder we're talking to Mike Slater, who is the host of the Mike Slater Show KFMB, the greatest radio station in San Diego in San Diego County, which I'm also on. So the two of us are on it, which clearly makes it the best radio station anywhere. By the way, like we just for people who don't know, I have been riding your coattails for like ten years now. I think I think everywhere you go, I end up

following you. So I appreciate it. Well, I was going to tell you, I mean, now I'm jumping to the head. I was gonna say, we hit the first on Pluto TV. I have managed to put together you have like two of the nicest, funniest, best people on radio with Jesse Kelly and Mike Slater. And you know, I'm just like, everybody should be watching this. Everybody should listen to this lineup. I mean legitimate For those of you you don't know, listen to my show. Mike Slater is one of the nicest

pa it has been since he started the blaze. He's actually so nice. Did At first I was like, is he really this nice? Turns out he actually is. He's that good of a guy. Yeah. I'm throwing it out and thrown it all your right now, are you handling it up about that buddy? Nicest guy on radio, very talented, great show, the Mike's Later Show. You should all be checking out of listening. Here's a podcast too. You can

listen to Mike's Later podcast. Let me ask you this, when when do you think are we breaking the damn here? Are we breaking the damn in in the reopen nationally? Or is this going to be a grind it out state by state, phase up, phase down fight? What are you seeing? Okay, Yeah, here's here's what I think. Who knows right? I've always thought, always thought the last week or so that it is going to be kind of like a bell curve and people are going to be able to make up their own minds and people are

going to go into their own categories. How much time do we have? Do I have two minutes to explain us? About a minute? He got a minute? I can only give you a minute because we got a station break go ahead. So in technology adaption people, there are people who by the first iPhone as soon as it comes out, and then there's a certain percentage people who can't wait a little while. And then there's a certain percentage people

who wait until they really need one. And then there's a certain percentage people who don't buy an iPhone until there's no more flip phones. And it's a bell curve early adopters who can google that a little more. I think that's the same thing here. I think a very small percentage of people want to go out to concerts now a little bit more. People are like, I'm gonna wait a week or so, and then you have me who's like, I'm gonna kind of la wait like a month. I got a two month old here. I don't want

to push anything. I don't wait like a month. And then there's some people who write play are like, I'm not really gonna go anywhere for a while because I have health issues or I'm older or whatever. So I think it's like a natural bell curve distribution of when people are going to go, and people are going to make up their own lines based off the information we have We don't need gavinue From or any governor telling you you are allowed, you're not allowed, you can you can't.

I think people are all adults and wise enough to do that by themselves. If I come out to San Diego so we can hang out with the fine people in the audience of KFMB, can you also teach me to surf. I'm not the best serve, but I can definitely treat you to a green smoothie. Maybe that's the California kale smoothie. Is what's keeping us healthy out here. Maybe that's it. All right, I'll take it. Mike's Later Everybody check out the Mikes Later show. Good, They're very overrated. Yeah,

Mike Slater's show. He's on What time Eastern time? Are you on KFMB one neon to three pacifics so three to six Eastern time, three to six Eastern time. Check him out and mister Slader, great to talk to you, sir. You stay safe out there. God bless you and yours. We'll talk soon. Remember I appreciate him. You're in the Freedom Hud. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Man,

it was great to talk to Mike Slater. Although I gotta say producer Mark, I thought I thought he was gonna be like, dude, I've been surfing like he he seems like he could be in Point Break with Keanna Reeves. But he's actually not a surfer. I mean not everyone who lives in San Diego surfs. You know that, right, I guess, I guess, But he is what I said before,

I really mean that. I want to reiterate it. He's one of the nicest, best dudes in the radio business, which is full of a lot of not nice people who you know who are who are terrible. Actually, Mike's Later and Jesse Kelly are like two guys that you'd want to be friends with and you'd want as neighbors, you'd want them coaching your kids little league team or

football team. They're they're just great dudes, and so it's it's an honor, honestly to be with them on Pluto TV the first along with along with Data Lash, who was a longtime friend and colleague, was fantastic. So anyway, if you haven't checked out that content, please do, meaning Pluto TV the first with Slater and also you can listen to The Slater Show. And I want to thank to find people San Diego. For listening to this show on KFMB, You guys are great. We are so honored producer.

Even producer Mark was excited when we picked up San Diego. That says a lot. Thanks for listening to The Bus Sesson Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. One thing I like to point out is the number of criminal cases and investigations brought against Republicans that quite clearly would

never have been brought against Democrats. Off the top of my head, you've probably heard me say this before, but you can think of Scott Walker in Wisconsin and the efforts to use the John Doe laws of that state to silence and destroy people around him to take down Scott Walker, who upset the public sector unions and the

Democrat apparatus of Wisconsin. No charges agains. Scott Walker didn't do anything wrong, but they were abusing There were prosecutors there as state prosecutors abusing their authority to go after him.

Rick Perry in Texas, there was an effort to criminally investigate Rick Perry for abusive authority because he was going to withhold funds from a prosecutor who would not step down, who had been arrested herself for drunk driving, but they wanted to prosecute that as a felony misuse of his official position, and they had to drop back because it

was so stupid. Governor Bob McDonald, who state authorities had no interest in going after, but federal prosecutors, no surprise there, went after him on the theory that even though he had received or had given no benefit of his public office, because he had hung out with a rich business man who had given him and his wife some gifts, literally just hung out with him, had him at parties there at the governor's mansion, he should face eleven years in

federal prison, and his wife should also, who had no elected office whatsoever, she should also go to prison. Federal prosecutors a lacomie, if you will, the way that they do things. You know, that's can you think of any similarities? Oh, and then Donald Trump and the Russia collusion, I mean, of course that's the biggest one of all. Right, that's like the the mounts Olympus of all abuse of prosecutorial authority cases for political political means. But you will also

remember the Chris Christie case. The Chris Christie case. This was, oh, this was reported on endlessly, endlessly by Democrat media as a major, a major story, I mean, a fascinating tale of abuse of power. And you even had Laurence O'Donnell, the blowhard host of The Last Word on MSNBC, say that a because a ninety one year old woman was delayed medical treatment because of the traffic jam that high

level staffers, Chris Christie staffers caused. That it was the quote the Willie Horton moment of Chris Christie's presidential Campaignever, Chris Christie was running for president at the time, and O'Donnell said, quote, I haven't been able to get the name of the ninety one year old woman who was delayed medical treatment that day because the traffic jam had eventually died, and we don't know whether she died because of a delay and treatment. But in politics, that's not

the way they played this game. So he didn't even know. He didn't even know. If you know, this woman could have been dead when they picked her up and took her in the ambulance. That can happen. She could have been done on a Bible. She could have had a condition. There was nothing they could do. And you know, he's ninety one years old. He doesn't know. All he knows, though, is that this is the end of Chris Christy's presidential campaign because of a traffic jam that was caused by

some of his aids. And this was report. MSNBC really leaned into this one. They treated this like it was a fascinating political tale, and Bridget Kelly and William BARRONI were sent to federal prison for this for causing this traffic jam. Now, producer Mark lives in New Jersey. Producer Mark our traffic jams near the Lincoln Tunnel or the George Washington Bridge a rarity. They're almost always happening right now. No, but in a normal situation, there is almost always traffic

in both of those tunnel bridge no matter what. Yes, pre pandemic. Anybody who knows the George Washington Bridge or the Lincoln Tunnel to get from New Jersey into Manhattan would tell you the moment that you start getting close, you kind of hold your breath. You're like, please don't have this speech there, because you can. This has happened to me a lot when I used to drive in from Washington, DC to come visit my family in New York. You can make great time for four hours and you know, oh,

I made it from DC to New York. And you get within sight. You can see Manhattan, you can see it, it's right there. But you get stuck at that Lincoln Tunnel and my, oh, you can sit there for forty five minutes an hour like it's nothing, like, it's nothing, just sitting there, same thing that George Washington Bridge. Right, you can sit there all day. Man, there's nothing you can do about it. Now. The theory here was that these two aids to Chris Christie Bridget Kelly and William BARRONI,

they created this traffic jam. They were guilty of federal crimes. They got sent to prison for a federal fraud and federal wire fraud. You know what. The wire fraud was writing emails to each each other to create This is when the federal government they can use all these statutes to just hammer you. But writing these emails constituted a use of wire fraud. And yeah, that's what they did. That's what they did. They charge them with Federal crown

sent them to prison. Well, guess what the Supreme Court has thrown out the Bridgegate convictions and Justice Elena Kagan, who I will say, Elena Kagan is a liberal. She is a liberal, and she's on the Supreme Court. Elena Kagan is a smart lawyer. Elena Kagan is smart. I see, I admit what's true justice so to Mayor, for example, is a third tier lawyer and is just not at the level of understanding and comprehension of the law to be on the Supreme Court. Both liberals, but one of

them very smart lawyer. The other one. Now, Kagan here wrote that not every corrupt and now I believe it was. Yeah, it was a unanimous ruling. It was a unanimous ruling. So I will give credit to every answer to everyone on the court that they made the right call, which this is. But it's also of course it's a unanimous ruling. Federal wire fraud for writing an email to start a traffic jam, Now this is this is the kind of act that, yes, people should be held it's a stupid

thing to do. People should be held accountable. But this is something you get fired for. This isn't something you go to federal prison for. Starting to think of all the people that you know, during protests will stand in the street and block traffic. You know, yeah, should they maybe be arrested in process because they're actively personally blocking traffic? Sure? Do you send them a prison for four years? I mean, actually I kind of think sometimes we should. But still

federal crime, that's what they're saying. And here's here's what the Selanna Kagan writing for this in this unanimous ruling. Here's how she put it. Quote not every corrupt act by state or local officials is a federal crime. Because the scheme here did not aim to obtain money or property, BARRONI and Kelly could not have violated the federal program fraud or wire fraud laws. End quote think of how and look, you know, give credit and the libs on the court even so am I or all right, I'm

gonna minute. He's not a good lawyer, but you know they did the right thing. Even Ginsburg I think I had to call in for the oral arguments recently. Um there was this Babylon VP's about how they're trying to lock Ginsburg in Um not carp is it? Well, what's the thing that they put in Star Wars? They put you? Is it carbonite. You're not a Star Wars guy, No, sporing to me. Wow, and you still haven't watched the Mandalorian, have you? I have not. But producer Nick is telling

us it is carbonite. Producer Nick, He's he's a he's a Star Wars buff. I know, yeah, carbonite. They're trying to lock. The joke and the Babylon Bee is they're gonna lock Ginsburg and Carbonite because and anything to make sure that she's okay, you know, she's still on the Supreme Court, especially, I mean, if Trump wins reelection, They're they're not gonna I mean, I don't even know what they're gonna do, but you're gonna see Ginsburg show up and this she'll be like the first, you know, cyborg

that's ever been created. They're gonna whatever implants they have to put in the you know, the technology twenty first century sci fi stuff. Whatever they gotta do, they're gonna do. That's how much they value having a Supreme Court as a super legislature for the left. But but let's go back here to the moment to the throw out here, and they mentioned the Governor Bob McDonald conviction, which was also thrown out by the Supreme Court. These are Republicans.

You think that's an accident. These are either Republican operatives or Republican polity titians who are over zealously prosecuted by the Feds. Oh, you mean the deep state has been around for a long time. You mean the deep state isn't just some new thing against Trump. Mmmm. That's right. If you're a lib if you're a Democrat, you get to you get to exist under a different set of rules. That's just That's just the way it is. That's what we see happening time and again. But this is the

right move. How can you how can you be guilty of fraud and wire fraud for just doing, you know, doing something within your power? It is, it was within their powers to do this. They said that they called it a traffic study or something, but it was essentially a really dumb prank. And by the way, I don't think it's a funny one. I think traffic is not funny.

I think it's really frustrating. And I think, you know, I don't want to know what producer Mark would do if you put them in traffic for two hours because of a prank and then you handed him a baseball bat and said, those are the people responsible. You don't want to what you know, it would not be pretty. It would not be pretty. He's gonnamit. It would not be pretty. So I understand, right, I understand. It's very frustrating, But yeah, they should be fired. They should be fired,

and their reputation should be damaged. Federal prison. Where what's the fraud being a moron? If being a moron is a federal fraud and writing in an email about your being a moron is a federal wire fraud, we better really start locking up some politicians all over the place.

This was absurd. The fact that federal prosecutors took it to this extent, the fact that that a judge allowed this to happen in the first case, a unanimous, a unanimous overthrow of this from a Supreme court just goes to show you, folks, there are a lot of political hacks and activists wearing robes and prosecutors all. You know, judges, robes and prosecutors are not like a normal robe. Hey, check out, not like that. I'm not a rope guy. By the way, I go to a hotel and I'll

put on the robe. Just because I feel like you got to if you're really getting in the whole tell vibe. But I'm not a robe guy, never half been. Um, where was I? I just got confused for a second. Yeah, so they had to. Uh. I was thinking about a time when you could actually go to like spas in these places and you could live normal life and wear a robe. And you can't do that anymore. So a

win for justice here. You know, these people, their reputations are ruined, their lives are forever, forever marred by this. But there shouldn't be in federal prison and even all the lives in the Supreme Court degree. But remember my initial premise here, where are the Democrats who are unfairly,

unfairly distrodered. The only one that can come to mind, maybe for some of you, is Blogoyevich, who is clearly kind of a corrupt guy, but who who has come to Blogoevic's defense for overreach of the government Trump and Republicans. It's not Democrats that are saying, yeah, you know, Bligoievic wasn't really that bad. You got a raw deal. They like the same people who want to control every aspect

of your life now under the pandemic. The same people who want to tell you, you know what you could eat and you have to recycle and no plastic bags being used and all this stuff. Those same people like that the state, the big s state, is able to crush anyone they want, using the courts and using the prosecutors weapons. That's not the country I want to live in. If you're going to go to prison, whatever you did

should be able to be in one sentence. It should be clear what you did, why it's bad, and why you need to have your freedom taken away. It shouldn't be some combat. It shouldn't be like the Logan Act, for example, which they went after Flynn on right. It shouldn't be some bullcrap that we all know is ridiculous. Say you haven't bridge Gate slapped it down. You're in the freedom hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. We have a huge crisis here. We haven't had as

many people unemployed since the Great Depression. Stores, businesses are closing all the time, More people are being laid off, people are being have trouble in every way economically. We need big, bold action and Speaker Pelosi and I are working very closely together on putting together a very strong plan which you will hear shortly. The people like McConnell and McCarthy and even Trump who say let's wait and do nothing, well, they remind me of the old Herbert Hoovers.

We had the Great Depression. Hoover said just let's wait it out. It got worse and worse. We need Franklin Rooseveltian type action, and we hope to take that in the House and Senate in a very big and bold way. The progressive transformation now they will try because of the crisis we are going through is inevitable. Right, this is

what the fight is going to become. We have the reopening fight, but we also have the what does the government do as we're trying because the reopen is not going to be easy, it's not to be clean, it's not going to be fast. So how much of a role does the federal government take in this whole process.

That'll be interesting. We'll have to see how much of a role does the federal government have to prop all of this up and make sure that industries that are battered by all of this, that entire sectors of our economy that are their own life support, they're not going to come out of life support, so to speak, hopping around doing backflips and everything's gonna be fine. They're gonna be limping. These sectors are going to be barely able to move even once they're able to start some business again,

they're able to re engage in commerce. But the Great Depression was exacerbated and elongated by the New Deal and by FDR. It lives always fight on this, They say it's not true. There have been exhaustive studies of it. If you know, maybe this is something. There's actually one author in particular I'm thinking of that I'll reach out to on this and see if she'll come on and just make the case, because people need to understand that this the the New Deal made things in the Great

Depression works. It did not actually take us out of the Great Depression. So I know it's history, but the history is going to be informing policy right now. And that's why they're saying, well, you know, we need FDR type action, not the internment of people into camps. Well, I'm glad that Democrats will agree with that, right. Their hero FDR just kind of always gets a pass on that one. I also remember that he's still a hero

to Democrats. And as we're in this era right now of more government control, more government power than we've ever seen before, how unthinkable is it really that they would try to force people, force people off of their land and start telling people under the quarantine rhetoric, right, under the quarantine rhetoric, you have to stay in this place that we tell you have to stay in. We're not there yet, but I didn't think we'd be where we

are right now. And that was even a month or two ago where people are saying, yeah, we'll just stay in lockdown forever. One more thing, My buddy Kelly mckinetti had a great response. You know, she's now White House Press Secretary's doing a great job, and she had a response to an assault, a verbal assault of course from one of the reporters, just trying to undermine her early on in the job, make her look foolish. And this one was this was a fun This was a fun one.

Play ten. Yeah, previous life, before you were Press secretary, you worked for the campaign and you made a comment, I believe on Fox in which you said President Trump will not allow the coronavirus to come to this country. Given what has happened since then, obviously, would you like to take that back? Well, first, let me note I was asked a question on Fox Business about presidents travel restrictions.

I noted what was the intent behind those travel restrictions, which is, we will not see the coronavirus come here, we will not see terrorism come here, referring to an earlier set of travel restrictions. And I guess I would turn the question back on the media and ask similar questions. Does Vox want to take back that they proclaim that

the coronavirus would not be a deadly pandemic. Does the Washington Post want to take back that they told Americans to get a grip the flu is bigger than the coronavirus. Does the Washington Post likewise want to take back that our brains are causing us to exaggerate the threat of the coronavirus? Does the New York Times want to take back that fear of the virus may be spreading faster than the virus itself. Does NPR want to take back that the flu was a much bigger threat than the coronavirus?

And finally, once again the Washington Post, would they like to take back that the government should not respond aggressively to the coronavirus. I'll leave you with those questions and maybe you'll have some answers in a few days. This is where you do narrative voice, a narrative voice that they do not want to take. And they're not going to have answers to those questions and they will not

be taking that back. All right, let's get let's get some roll call going here in a moment with producer Mark. Thanks for listening to the show past. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcast, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, team Buck, it's time for roll calls. Yes, we have our tunes back. That's what I'm talking about,

Producer Mark, That's what I'm talking about. I also want to tell you that I watched the new Jerry Seinfeld stand up special last night with the Snow Princess and I would have you seen it yet? Yes, I watched it last night as well. Look at that we're so sympatica god. And I finished Waco. What do you think he was? Fantastic? Fantastic? All right? I mean ATF they make APF look like like a Mexican drug card doll. Or something that's really bad for the af and then

they don't make the FBI look good at me. I don't know if you've seen the end there, but they don't know. I haven't seen the end of yet, but I mean I know what happened. So but at least there's the one guy and the FBI is like, maybe we shouldn't just the way they portrayed there's that guy, the negotiator guy. I don't want to ruin it for you, but the way they portrayed he looks really good, the negotiator guy, and the other guys look the technical guys

look awful. Oh of course, well you know that's coming. And also you have to remember that in the beginning of the show, it's based on two memoirs. One of the memoirs that the show is based on is the negotiator guy. Yes, so it's not surprising. And he's like, I got an idea, maybe we shouldn't just kill everybody, And they goes like, no, we have all this cool gear, we're hardh speed, we gotta go in there and shoot

everybody and everything. And he's like, but maybe we could d escalate for you know, You're like, uh, I think the d escalate guy might be onto something in this case, right, But yeah, yeah, I think I would have decided with a negotiator there. Yeah, the negotiator and the negotiate I was like, wait, I got on a da. Maybe we don't have to like absolutely create a catastrophe here and then and then the other FBI guys like, why are you search a whimp? Let's go in there, Let's blow

everything up. You know, It's like, whoa those FBI guys are you know what else? No, Princess, we watched two things last night, um, and it was her choice. We watched the Seinfeld thing, and I will say, I'm obviously the worst thing you can ever do is try to take a comedians jokes and tell them because it never that's that's always like people will never want to talk to you again when you do that, because you just

ruin it and it's not funny. But I think you can refer to the general topic and his thing about about porta potties. I mean, I was it actually like it was hurting me on the inside. Yes, that was like the funniest thing that I've I mean, because it was so some of his stuff about cell phones was really good too. But the porta Potti thing was was you know, I thought he started out a little almost like he was kind of nervous, like he hasn't done

a long time. Like the first five minutes of the Seinfeld stand up, I thought were he you know, he was kind of getting maybe maybe that's true a lot of stand ups, but he was trying to get into a rhythm and it was a little yeah, the audience a little bit. He was warming up himself. Yes, it felt it. FA's right, it felt like he was kind of warming up to himself whatever. But when he got going, I gotta say, it was was really good. He still

has I still yeah, he's still. I mean with the porta potty thing, that was so funny that like later on I thought about it to myself and still kept kind of laughing. Um, and then on oh well with Waco. The other thing that snow Princess wanted to watch was a Diehard, which she had never We were looking for someone to watch kind of late night, you know, it was just passing out and she's like, I haven't seen die Hard. I was like, we could always watch die Hard.

But in course, of course, in die Hard you have Special Agent Johnson and Special Agent Johnson who are like the quintessential jerk FBI agents in it. It's really funny, you know, especially when the guy it's kind of like the Waco guys a little bit. You've you've seen Diehard obviously, of course, yeah, I remember the guys like, yeah, we'll go in there hounding heavy. You know, think about thirty

percent casualties for the hostages. I can live with that, And everyone's like, what it's The Waco guys are a little bit like that, you know, there's a little bit of they're like, hey, you know, half the half the people may die in the shootout. We're going to start here, but you know, you gotta break gotta break some eggs to make an omic. I mean, since you know what the eventually happen. The Waco guys were worst of that technically. Oh yeah, oh no, no, it's really bad. It's really bad.

Um So, and you know at Ruby Ridge, the Weaver family at Ruby Rich they got three million dollars from the government. So it's not like you know that that thing was bad. It was on a much smaller scale, but that was a bad shoot too. Anyway, all right, let's get to uh, I know, we get all excited about this stuff. I will say, though, I had one. I ordered from some gluten free burgers last night from a restaurant that I want to try. And you know when you read the when you read the reviews and

you're like, maybe these people just don't like the place. No, they were right. I turned to snow Princess, I was like, do you like I was kind of like, do you like your burger, honey? And she's like she's trying, and I'm like, no, you don't. But hey, we put some money in the local economy and people are still working. And you know she doesn't order a regular burger. Oh no, she had a regular one. Oh, I had a gluten free. So the gluten free and the regular burgers all sucked.

Both that yeah, both bad. So that was a that was a miss. Swinging a miss from the buckster. All right, we got roll calls, so we gotta do it. And and the producer mark here it is Greta always like that name. Yes, Wisconsin is the Badgers, and our main college rivalry is the Minnesota Gophers. Oh gosh, Gophers. Oh yeah. In my opinion, the real Midwest beef is between Wisconsin and Illinois, though unfortunately I live about a half a

mile from the Illinois Wisconsin border. Around here, Illinois residents are generally referred or commonly referred to as FIBs, effing Illinois bastards. WHOA, that's pretty intense Midwest beef, is it? That's funny? Their next line is Midwest beef is intense. I didn't know that. Yeah, I guess there's nothing better to do than eight on each other. Where I come from, nobody cares about Mainland Michigan. The the the how do we say it, the up, the up upers. The up

is cool. And yes, we all sound like that, although we like to pretend we don't. Oh yeah, we all sound like that, do you. Oh youup is great? Oh gosh, it's a great place. Uh. And I didn't know that there's any I can't imagine people in the West having all this beef with each other. But I do know, for example, from d the NFL, which is the one sport that I have made an effort in recent years to really watch regularly, that the beef between the Vikings

and the Bears is substantial. Yeah, and the Packers and the Bears and oh, the Packers and the Bears, and the Packers and Bears and Packers and Vikings even bigger actions. Yes, yeah, so you can kind of you can kind of sense that. One the weird thing for New York is our is our New York Football Giants play in New Jersey. Their stadium is in New Jersey. So to your New York Football Jets, yeah, well, I mean, come out of Jets. Technically, the only New York football team is the Buffalo Bills.

Good call. I'm gonna I'm gonna tell snow Princess is from Buffalo, So I'm gonna tell her that that little bit of that factoid. I am pressed her in the early days by telling her that the Google Dolls are in fact from Buffalo and are one of my favorite nineties rock bands. And I don't care what people say about that. The Google Dolls are great. I have a friend who was obsessed with them. They're great. Yeah, they're good. Their songs really stand up. I mean they're really catchy,

you know, good musicians. Anyway, Matthew writes, Hey, Buck, I just saw a local restaurant called Publano's with a huge crowd outside. Turns out they've organized and an event focused on a special day. They're having all out held outside with social distancing encouraged. I'm assuming if it's if it's Poblanos, it was probably a Sinco de Mayo party. Not to like, but I mean right, yeah, if this was sent this week, then yeah, it has to be. Yeah. I love the

ingenuity in their persistence through the crisis. It's truly American strong. North Carolina is sick of the quarantine. Shield tie Buck, please continue to keep us safe and warm at night, Matthew, That's what I'm here for, Shield tie Keeping you safe and warm at night, That's what we do. Randy, hey Buck, don't feel bad about your nerd trophies. Thanks Randy. I want producer Mark will make sure that I'm kept in check with my nerd trophies. I competed in some chess

tournaments back in the day. I didn't get no trophies, just a piece of paper. Only one girl was ever impressed by my chessboard prowess. Lol. I feel a little gross after reading the last sentence. Shields High. You know, Randy, chess is I like chess? Actually, I think chess is a fun game. It's a fun game to play with somebody because you really you know, you can get super intense about it, or you can play more relaxed chess.

My preferred version of playing chess with someone is with like a nice glass of mescal or to kill in the rocks, or a nice red wine in hand. You know that's the way to do it. Maybe play some tunes, sit back, relax and let cat Stevens, let the cat purr. You know that's that's what you want to do. It sounds offensive to people who play chess competitively, I know, right, the people that are really into it, or chess nerds. I want a bishop tonight six. I will take your

rook with my bawn. I don't know why they're all Russian, all of a sudden what they are, because we all know the Rooskis are good at chess, right, Sure, I to feed you. I will crush your keying and take him from you just like that. No, that's exactly how they sound. I'm sure that's exactly how they all say. Going to the park, even you'll see some guy they're named Igors like I will play you in speed chess. We will we will play for money, or we will play for who will cut off their finger. I feel

like this was a storyline on the Nickelodeon cartoon. Hey, Arnold, there's something about chess. I've never seen that cartoon. I even heard of it, so I'll have to take your word for it. He really are old. My name is Suragay. I will take your house and all of your money if you don't win this chess match. That's how it goes. That's how it goes. Chris Buck love the show. I'm slow so it took me a bit to realize. Oh okay, Chris, thanks so much. Man covid has now replaced climate farce

as a means of establishing nearly full so control. Oh. I think he slowly realized that, not that he loves the show now and now I get it. I was like, okay, if it takes you want to love the show. As long as you love the show, I'm happy. Clearly the host will slow to realize things too. Wow, it's like that. It's like that. You guys could all read you guys should write it now and tell producer Mark he has

to be nice to the host anyway. It gives them cover, since even one life loss is too many, except of course baby booh gosh, baby butchering, which is life saving to them. If this doesn't wake people up, nothing short of a police state will even then it will take years. Yeah, I know they've they've there's been an ideological shift toward

lockdown and the collective lockdown. The collective is lockdown consensus that this this can give them everything that they normally want and can't achieve through legislation or through constitutional means. There has been that shift that has occurred, So we need to keep that in mind. We need to remember that. Becky hey buck, how do we use a nation charge the governors with treason who are not opening up their states, holding people hostage and not letting our countrymen live free lives.

They're withholding freedom from citizens. As you know, my state has been opening up in increments, but feel as slow as heck, and my states started opening the very first group of states that opened, we still have not been able to go shopping at a department store for necessities

such as undergarments. Also, how the heck do we get Nancy Pelosi out cannot barely stand abiding in the same country with this lying, devious, more than privileged excuse for a house speaker, Nancy Pelosi, she's she's a master legislator. She's gonna just you know, she's Trump is Trump is the devil. And you know, I don't know, man, how do you get rid of Pelosi? You know, tell the

Libs to stop voting for the worst person ever. And treason, as you know, is giving aid and comfort to the enemy under law, So you can't get any these people for treason. And you know, I think that um, some are not opening the states up because they are really really worried. But a lot are not opening them. And I mean this citizens as well as leadership and political leadership, but a lot are also not opening it up. I think for the political reasons of control and economic suppression.

Right an economic suppression is in a sense very much tied to control, because if you continue to suppress this economy, it means that you will be able to rest control away from Trump and have control yourself. That see word keeps coming up for a reason. It's very central to the left's thinking. The Libs are obsessed with it. You're in the freedom Hunt. This is the Buck Sex and Show podcast more roll Call here. Jonathan writes, Hey, Buck, if it makes you feel better. No one can whistle

with a mask on Producer Mark. I think that's probably true, isn't it. Maybe they can and you just can't hear it as much, right, but so it would be a stifled whistle. But can you even I feel like it would be difficult, would be you know, I mean not that I'm good at whistling, like actually can't whistle. But that's not why I hate it. Whistling is an auditory violation and it's terrible. No whistling, I know. See, I knew he was gonna do that. He's just being he's

just being mean. Now he's you know, Prucer Mark is just running around spiking the football in the end zone with his whistle at the end of the show because he knows I'm happy that we got through another fantastic show and so he can get away with his nonsense today. But you know, it's as long as you never do and I'm don't do this one on the show because people people will their ear drums will explode, or at

least mine will. The thing where people put the fingers in the mouth though in the football stadiums that I don't know. I can't even do that. The person that is near you does not want their ear drums blown out so you can make a stupid whistle sound. Don't do that, folks. I've happorting events too. It's just it's not that I mind the whistling, is just don't do

it next to me. It's just super obnoxious because it really is only loud to the people right next to you, and it's super loud to them, and no one else cares. I don't know why people think that's cool. That should be banned, banished. It should get you like you should be treated like the person of Master Square arden who throws his hot dog on the floor, you know, in front of it or you know, I mean on the basketball floor or on the ice, yes, which is where

they play hockey. See, I know some things. It's where they play hockey on the ice. True, you know, Producer Mark, I will tell you I actually tried, and I know it's on Disney Plus, so I will watch it. I tried to convince No Princess to watch Miracle, and you know what, you don't want to watch it because we were so tired that you wanted to watch the whole thing through. Okay, watch it. I'm excited for that, so

we're gonna take a producer mark recommendation there. Instead, we watched the first thirty minutes of Diehard and fell asleep to Lula likes Diehard too, though she's into it. She's like, yes, die Hard, all right. Michael writes, Buck, I really liked your segment with Andy Dean. I used to listen to him on radio every day back in the day. Hearing two big brains discuss politics and policy is great content. She'll tie from Austin KLBJ. Austin, what is up. Great

to talk to you, folks. Thank you so much for listening. I really appreciate that we've had a lot of growth and team Buck Austin for the last couple of years. And KLBJ is a fantastic station and we're honored to be affiliated with it. As for Andy Deane Andydine and I become friends over the years. He's a really sharp guy,

really smart dude, and we just get along. And you know, he was a very solid radio host in his own right when he was on the air, and you know now he's been doing more entrepreneurial business stuff, but he occasionally does some commentary. He used to go and see an n a fair amount as a Trump surrogate back in back in twenty sixteen. And you know, Andy and I we just look, he's he's smart, no stuff, and we respect each other and we get we have good conversations.

And so I got nothing but high fives and good feelings about Andy and anything I can do to help him here, and we're gonna get him on the show more. I mean, he's somebody that I think should be his voice should be heard by more folks. Rob, Right, So you missed the most obvious flaw in cuomos. You might kill someone if you don't wear a mask. Speech. If I go on in public without a mask and someone dies, they were almost certainly at risk. So if they are out,

they put themselves at risk, not me. I say, mandatory masks at essential places like the supermarket anywhere else you go there, you take your chances, Rob, interesting theory. Thank you for writing in Edmund. So it's been shown that using antibodies from people that had COVID nineteen to cure COVID nineteen works. Why can't the government pay people with anibodies to donate their blood for making these cures? Several million people have the antibodies now, Edmund, I don't think

it's that clear and that effective. I think it's considered helpful. This is also the fancy way of saying it's convalescent plasma, but it's just antibodies in the blood being pulled out and given to somebody else. If you're really too far gone. Part of the problem is by the time people get to the hospital, they're often too sick and too far gone for really any treatment to be very effective. And other people who aren't that far gone aren't that sick.

It's hard to tell if they're getting better because of the treatment or if they were going to get better anyway. But Edmund, I do appreciate you writing in and sharing thoughts on this one. And let's save the red. We've got some more great roll calls here. Let's say those for tomorrow. We've got some fantastic guest lineup for tomorrow too, so it's gonna be a great show. My friends. Please do pass the buck. Tell somebody just do me a favor. It really is a favorite, and I really do appreciate it.

Tell someone you know, text them, email them, send them a link to the buck Sex and show. Say you gotta listen to this guy on radio. It's really worthwhile. That is my early Christmas and Birthday present this year, so for me and producer Mark, although for him it's a Hanakah present, but that's you know, you guys already know that, all right, everyone, thanks so much for listening. She'll tie