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Firing Up The Defense Production Act

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Season 4, Episode 55.


Democrat Governors from across the US are praising the Trump administration for it's covid-19 response and cities are trying to figure out if they need to shut down. David Harsanyi joins. 

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You are entering the freedom much is the shelter in place order coming to New York City? Will it be followed with different orders like it in cities and perhaps towns across the country. Plus, how is this economic rescue package coming along? Is the Department of Defense going to be called in? And I've got at least one idea to try to help ease this period for folks who are on the front lines. We got that and more

coming up on The buck Sexton Show. This is the buck Sexton Show, where the mission or mission is to decode what really matters with actionable intelligence. Make no mistake America, You're a great American Again, the buck Sexton Show begins, He's a great guy. No. Well, from the buck Sexton Show, everybody, thank you so much for being here. Thank you for joining me during what is clearly a very challenging time

in this country. We are in the midst of a pandemic, or at least pandemic preparations the likes of which we have never seen before. Understandably, people are deeply, deeply concerned about this. I don't think the word concern even really covers the feeling right now of a lot of folks across the country, and I mean this in all seriousness. So I'm going to try to stay with my overall promise to you that I will limit to degree that

I can unnecessary partisan commentary during the show. Now that doesn't mean there won't be any, because there's always and we're going to be in this for months, Okay, I meaning that there's going to be this problem. I don't know what degree, but coronavirus is here for months at a minimum, maybe not to the same level we're seeing it now with a different and we're going to walk through all this together or give you all the latest

on everything. But this is a moment in time when we can take a step back and be people first, before we are politicos, before we are partisans. There will be some pushback that'll have to do, and that'll even come today against anyone who is lying about the President, trying to make it harder for us, trying to make things more difficult for the President's response team to do everything they're trying to do. But overall, we will be in a position I think where we can say, okay,

let's focus first here on what's really happening. What we know is going on. You know, I'm here in New York and we're about to in the next twenty four hours find out because de Blasio, the mayor here, has said that it'll be that time period when he determines in consultation with the state, because really the city doesn't have those full police powers without this dates say so and you'll quarantine powers are very tied into police powers.

Public health authorities are at the state level. You know. It's not like a city can decide, oh, we're a Corona free zone, so we'll do whatever we want. But we might have a situation like what they have in San Francisco where you're just not really allowed to leave your house unless you're considered a central personnel or you're going to get food or medicine. That's it. Forget about social distancing. This is the end of socializing, and I'm going to try to strike as much of a balance

as I can as we go through this. I'm hopeful that within a few weeks we will feel much better about this whole situation than we do right now. We'll feel like, at least it's somewhat under control. I am hopeful about that. I can't guarantee it. Obviously, no one can guarantee much of anything these days. The economy is in a terrifying spot. Now, how frightened should we be of the virus? That really remains to be seen. We

have to see what the numbers are. But if economy stays like this, We've never been through something like this before. This isn't one sector dragging everything down. This isn't one aspect of our fiscal policy that's causing all kinds of problems. We are going to be in for a terrible economic ride here across the board, because we are in the midst of what is effectively a total freeze on the economy. Is this is going to be rough. The economic side

is definitely going to be rough. There's no question about that. And I think that you can even see and I'm sorry. As I sit here, I'm sometimes force myself to pause because I go, oh, I just touched my face. I can't stop the You know, I only do it when I'm home. But when you realize how often you touch your face, then you realize how much more you need to wash your hands. It's tough to escape this stuff. It's with you all the time. It stays in your mind constantly, so to give you a sense of just

how bad the circle umstances really are. Right now. You have people who are very quick and having very quick to be deeply critical of the president on everything, and I would say, in many cases unfairly critical of the president. You have some of those people coming forward to say, Okay, let's actually handle this as adults, and the President's doing a good job. Here is a Governor Cuomo of New York for example, play clip three. This government has done somersaults.

It's performed better than ever before. I am telling you this government cannot meet this crisis without the resources and capacity of the federal government. I spoke to the President this morning again he is ready, willing and able to help. I've been speaking with members of his stash late last night early this morning. We need their health, especially on the hospital capacity issue. We need FEMA. FEMA has tremendous resources. When I was at HUT, I worked with FEMA. I

know what they can do. I know what the Army Corps of Engineers can do. They have a capacity that we simply do not have. I said to the President, who is a New Yorker who I've known for many many years. I put my hand out in partnership. I want to work together one I need your help. I want your help, and New Yorkers will do everything they

can to be good partners with the federal government. I think the President was one hundred percent sincere in saying that he wanted to work together in partnership and a spirit of cooppudence. He has taken evidence that his team has been on it. I know a team when they're on it, and I know a team when they're not on it. His team is on it, been responsive late at night, early in the morning, and they've thus far

been doing everything that they can do. And I want to say thank you, and I want to say that I appreciate it. All right, What is he really referring to in terms of the imminent fight ahead? I mean, that's the governor of New York. New York just because of population density is now they're the most cases in New York, and we are going to end up having

the most fatalities here. And this will also be viewed, I think as a test case, because if social distancing and the policies that they're putting in place can work here, they can obviously work anywhere. A lot of you listening to this live in parts of the country where there are far fewer cases, there's far less human population density

to worry about in the first place. So if it can work in New York, it'll obviously work out in Indiana, Texas, Utah, Minnesota, you name it, right, a lot of places where this will be able to be much more easily, I think put into effect. It's going to be painful for everybody, but it's more difficult here than it is in other places. So then that brings me to the hospital bed issue. Here's what we're being told the fifteen days to flatten

the curve. Everyone's been crunching the numbers on what's happening in Italy, and flatten the curve has become a phrase, almost a rallying cry now for people who want there to be very serious, immediate, severe measures taken to avoid the fate of Italy, which is really what everyone points to right now. And I would note that Spain and France and Germany, it's not clear how far behind Italy

they are. But what happened in Italy was you had too many infections too quickly at the same time, and the hospital system is just overwhelmed, meaning they do not have enough ICU beds, they don't have enough medical practitioners. A lot of their medical practitioners got COVID nineteen, a lot of them came down with the disease wuhan virus. Again, I'm gonna call it the different things, because there's a lot of things that we can call it. But that's

that's what ended up being the case in Italy. And we can see that and look at the projections of infections there on a time graph, number of infections and number of a number of days that have passed, and we are considered to be about eight to ten days right now behind where Italy was before their crisis completely exploded. Or perhaps we're even eight to ten days behind Italy period.

I mean, it depends on how you're going to line up the numbers, what part, what part of the north of Italy we're talking about, or if we're just talking about some cities, some sections, so we're not far behind them. And we're trying to make sure that we don't have a situation here where the ICU beds are all full, because then people show up and they say I can't breathe. If they're in the high risk population. I'm having trouble breathing. I think I think I have COVID nineteen. What can

we do about this? And the response will be We're going to do everything we can, but we don't have If we take somebody else off a ventilator, that person's going to die. So you get into this really horrible, inhumane, but unavoidable first come, first served to the ventilator situation, which is terrifying to people. So we are trying to avoid that here, and that's what the flattened the curve mantra is all about. We have efforts being made now to get ahead of this. The Army Corps of Engineers,

Department of Defense. You know, the military has an ability to set up field hospitals that may be happening. Now, there's a lot of discussion about taking perhaps empty university space, because the universities have all been emptied out across the country pretty much, taking them and setting up additional hospital bed setting up additional facilities. As I've been saying, this is considered an all it is an all hands on

deck situation. Now we know now we know that this disease is more dangerous than the flu, it is more severe and it's very, very highly infectious. Stars years ago was terrifying until we realize that you really weren't able to pass on Stars unless you add the extreme symptoms

of Stars. The problem we're having with COVID nineteen is that they think now people are not only do they not know they're infected, but they're they're spreading the infection while not having any symptoms, which just means that no matter how judicious a person is about public announcements, that everything else, unless they social distance, whether they have symptoms or not, they may be spreading the virus to other people.

So that's that's where this is right now. And you know, then there's the troubling analysis that we saw that you're seeing probably this morning about how long this is going to last. I want to get into the timelines a little bit here, and also just to a promise to you, we're going to talk about some other things today. I will always take any suggestions for just or history, deep dives or subject matter that you want me to address here on the show, because we're in for a long haul,

certainly weeks, maybe months. This story is not going away. Journalists are not chasing anything else. There's not a lot of other information gathering going on out there right now, because this is the single biggest problem facing all of humanity. Not climate change, by the way, but I'll try to keep the climate change snark to a minimum for now.

Glad we had the community of world scientists focusing for the last decade on something that's a non problem, when a problem like this was sneaking up on us and people knew, which was just a matter of time. And now here we are facing a depression and I don't even know how you can describe the disruptions of life that we might be under. This is also where I tell you we will get through. We will be okay. I'm here for you, you are here for me, and in the end we're all going to be all right.

But it's going to be a rough ride. You're in the freedom. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. I mean, look, this is just coming back to where this conversation started. After the press conference, I hear with Sanjay Is saying about Tony Faucci giving you a little bit more wiggle room than others. But if you look at the big picture, this was remarkable from the President of the United States.

This is a nonpartisan. This is an important thing to note and to applaud from an American standpoint, from a from a human standpoint, he is being the kind of leader that people need, at least in tone today and yesterday, in tone that people need and want and yearn for

in times of crisis and uncertainty. When a CNN political analyst, that was Donna Bash at CNN is saying the president's leadership is needed right now and he's doing a good job, and I mean this in all honesty, you know, it's serious. I haven't heard anything like that from anybody who works for that news organization. In over three years, I've heard a completely consistent stream of the exact opposite, actually, that President Trump was a traitor and horrible and ruining the

country and a threat to democracy. And now we see what is effectively a threat to humanity. And it does remind us all of what a bunch of petty nonsense the country was put through for years. You know, we could have been focusing on real problems, real challenges, things like infectious disease, dealing with poverty, dealing with upward mobility. We could have done that, that could have been where the media's attention was, but no, instead it was just

a steady stream of Trump hatred. They do bear responsibility, not just for crying wolf, which certainly slowed some of the recognition that the country had about the severity of this, because the media says everything Trump does is horrible, and they say anything that challenged any challenge that Trump faces he's not up to. So that affected the analysis that many of us did on whether or not this should be taken as the pandemic or expected to be the

pandemic that it is. And then you also have the reality of the media using its focus of the public's attention, which does direct things like resources, which does have real effects. That focus of the public's attention that could have been put to productive use, but instead was put to anti Trump't arrangement purposes that were a complete waste, a complete waste of everybody's time, a total, utter, shocking waste, and it's appalling. And they've advocated the responsibility they have the

American people. Now, all right, I'm getting a little more political than I meant to, but I do have to. I also want to say, you know, thank you to Donna Bash for I know it's spelled Dana, but it actually has pronounced Donna. Thank you to Donna Bash for being honest about the situation. People need honesty right now. We need truth. We don't need partisan hacks. We don't need people that are trying to score cheap points. And this is why I know for some of you it's

like nails on a chalkboard. But you know, when I play the Cuomo audio for you New York, when I've played Newsom saying that Trump's administration has been really helpful, I think it's necessary that we encourage truth telling from all signs and from anybody right now, and to the degree that we can put partisanship aside. So I mentioned the fight to get enough beds in place, and we're going to know really quickly if their projections and everything

that we're being told about this are true. We're going to know in the next two to three weeks. We're going to know if what they've been saying about how desperately we need to stop the spread of this is accurate, So meaning and that the numbers that they're projecting are they coming true. Because we're doing all this and we're going to we're going to extremes here. You know, this is we're effectively shutting down our economy in order to stop what they say is the curve, or you know,

from stop the spike and flatten the curve. There are some challenges that that comes with that are not even really thought through, I think at this point, one of them being that eventually people are just going to non comply and the state's gonna have a very hard time telling people that you don't get to live your life when you have a ninety nine percent chance. This is just reality. I'm just saying it. You don't get to live your life because there's a ninety nine percent chance

you'll be okay, but there are other people who won't be. Eventually, people are going to say I'm going to take the risk. That's what's going to there. So we'll get into this and this is setting up something of a of an intergenerational tension that everyone's picking up on right now as well. But the fight over beds and preparation for the spike that is right now. You have to remember we are

up ten times in a week nation. Why the case is here, we will be up five to ten times the number of cases next week as more testing happens, more cases will appear, and as more cases appear, there'll be greater anxiety about just how widespread this disease really is. So we have to focus right now on that fifteen day now thirteen day period that the President has been talking about. Thanks for listening to The bus Essen Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the iHeart Radio app,

or wherever you get your podcasts. Now, this is where I have to take a moment to tell you that sometimes the press are, in fact the enemies of the people. That's a real thing. Some journalists right now we're doing excellent work and we need them to be bringing us facts and story. So I'm not I'm not using this as an opportunity to be smirch all journalists. Far from it. I mean, I technically I work in the media, so I'm in some ways part of the extended journalist family,

I guess. But the New York Times when with a story right now, when people are at this degree of extreme unease, and remember panic, the word that I think, I don't know if I've explained on this show. Interesting derivation of it comes from the Greek god of the woods, pan who had the legs of a goat and little horns and play to flute. People know the pan flute. Panic is comes from panic coasts in ancient Greece, which was the feeling you had if you were in the woods.

And they're not sure if it's if you saw Pan because it was a terrifying and scary situation, or if you're just in Pan's realm, the woods, away from civilization, away from you know, your family and your protectors, and so you have extreme anxiety that that comes on. That's that's where the word panic comes from. Much. I think is interesting because you're hearing it constantly right now. But we are in this this moment in time where things are particularly uneasy. I think that's a gentle way of

saying it. And I'm right in the middle of it. Him and I am doing the show right now from midtown Manhattan. Why I could walk over to Times Square in a matter of minutes and it would be empty. It looks like that scene from Vanilla Sky, one of my least favorite movies of all time. By the way, I put Vanilla Sky in the ten worst movies I've ever seen, maybe even the five worst movies I've ever seen in the theater. It was god awful. But there's a scene where Time Square is completely empty. It's like

a dream sequence. It's like that right now. I mean you might see a handful of people walking around, but usually you would see hundreds, maybe a thousand or two. Right, you could see a lot of people in Times Square. And because people are scared, so we're trying to get ready for the influx that is according to all experts. I don't know an expert who disagrees with this. I

haven't seen one. I should say he influx of people who are infected with COVID nineteen and are having trouble breathing, and they send day they go to the hospital and they need really serious help. And it's not like they go in, they get patched up, and they get there out in a day. They're going to be on ventilators for a couple of weeks, two three, four weeks, so that each ventilator that someone gets on has taken offline

for a long period of time. And the President was on a conference call with governors from around the nation, and this is what the New York Times reported, Trump to governors on ventilators, try getting it yourselves, and people were reporting this as wow, how could he, Oh, he's so awful. Respirators, ventilators, all the equipment, Try getting it yourselves, And there were people the New York Times you were sharing this like this was an appalling thing for the

President to say. Well, he also said, the full quote is we will be backing you, but try getting it yourselves. Point of sales much much better, much more direct if you can get it yourself. This was treated as yet another another moment to criticize the president when all he's saying is do everything you can. I mean, the federal government's going to help you as much as it can. But guess what, the federal government's not perfect, doesn't have all the resources it needs right now because it just

draws upon the resources of the people. We weren't ready for this. We're not really prepared for this. So if the states have a better way of getting some of this, they should just do it. You know, if you see something on Amazon, are you going to wait for the state authorities to deliver to your door. You're just gonna

say I'm gonna buy that. That's all he's saying, and it was reported on as the presidents being, you know, unfeeling, and he doesn't care and in all this other stuff just just pure and utter garbage on the President notably annoyed by this play clip twelve and yesterday, I gave the governors the right to go order directly if they want, if they feel they can do it faster than going

through the federal government. Now we've knocked out all of the bureaucracy, it's very direct, but it's still always fast to order directly. And I gave them that was totally misinterpreted by the New York Times on purpose, unfortunately, but yeah, they did completely misinterpret it, and they used it as a cheap shot opportunity against the president. And it's really it's really appalling. But that's where we are, and that's

that's still going to continue to happen. People view all of this as an opportunity, an opportunity to score political points against administration that they hate. That really gave us. I mean, the first three years of Trump were the three best years in this country in my adult life. I honestly believe that I knew it wasn't gonna last. I knew we were going to have a war or something. I know it was going to be this, We're going

to have a massive recession. We're going to have some problem that came up, you know, have a socialist takeover of the country. That was a concern. It looks like that's not going to happen. Biden crushed Bernie last night the primaries. Here we are our Biden is going to be too old for the job, not very bright, not very impressive. Biden is supposed to be the savior of the country. Well, we'll get to that later. Let's focus on Let's focus on what's going on right here, right now.

So you've got just by the numbers, so I can really make it clear to you why there's such a concern right now over hospital beds. You've got over one hundred and eighty thousand people across the world who are confirmed to have COVID nineteen, and you have at least wuhan virus. By the way, please don't tell me to call one thing. I'm just there's a lot of things people are calling it. I'm not not calling it wuhan virus because it's just COVID nineteen is easier to say.

But you've got at least seven thousand deaths around the world. That's gonna be a lot. It's gonna be a lot more than that. And now, yeah, bad flu season, we'll kill sixty at eighty thousand people in the United States alone, So that's real. But this is different and worse than the flu. We're there. I was really hoping that was not going to be the case. I was really hoping we could sit here and just say it just the

flu part two. But it's not. No one now who studies this, no one now who looks at this is claiming otherwise. So you know, this is where we get to the shelter and place declaration. That looks like it's already happened in San Francisco. It looks like it may happen here in New York City. New York State has

seventeen hundred cases. And I know you guys live in different states, but this is now going to be the test case for because we're gonna have the most the most people confirmed to have the disease, and you're going to see the greatest influx of resources probably in the

hospital system here because it's going to need it. Seventeen hundred cases probably by the end of the day, it'll be closer to two thousand, almost a thousand cases in New York City alone, and a rough estimate is that whatever we think the number is, it's ten times that number. So if we think there are a thousand cases of New York City, they're ten thousand cases in New York City. If they're ten thousand cases in New York City, meaning people that actually have the disease, a lot of them

don't know it. Most of them don't know it. They're walking around, they're infecting people. Now, there's eight million people eight point five or so a million people in New York which means that obviously a lot of people don't have it. But ten thousand, if you spread it to two people at a time, and they spread it to two people and they spent it at two people, exponential growth means that you're going to have roughly half the city in a pretty short order of time that has this.

That's what would happen if you just allow people to go about their lives and do everything. So we are hoping to bring down that number so that there are enough beds because when we get to ten or fifteen thousand people who are hospitalized with this, which will happen relatively quickly. Based on the numbers. We're already seeing their need to be their resources in place to treat them. So we are right now waiting for the onslaught. I mean, this is a little bit like we're in the front

line of an infantry battle. You know. We're in the front line of the phae Lex and we can see the enemy coming over the crest of the hill across from us, and it is big, and it is a scary looking enemy, and we have to just sort of wait for it. You know. I've been talking to friends about how the city after nine to eleven we were scared, but we also knew right away. Many of us, I think had a change in mentality to Okay, now this mean,

this means war. And when you're fighting against a human enemy, no matter how terrifying their tactics and how evil they may be, as al Qaeda was and is, you know that they're vulnerable. I mean, to borrow from Arnold Schwarzenegger and the Predator movie, if it bleeds, we can kill it, right. It's one of his better better lines than what is I think arguably the arguably the five one of the five greatest action movies of all time, if not number one.

If it bleeds, we can kill a human beings bleed, so we know that we can take out any human enemy if we just have the skill, the grit, the determination. Viruses don't bleed now they can die, but we can't go really and steek them out to eradicate them. We are playing defense. We are on defense inherently when we're dealing with a viral pandemic like this, and that feels bad, that feels even more uneasy in a lot of ways. There's not going to be any revenge here. There's not

going to be any justice. No one's ever gonna, you know, kick in Vin Laden's front door and shoot him in the face because he gave us a virus, right, I mean this is there's never gonna Yeah. I'm going to talk about the situation with China, which is complicated and really bad, but there's no one person you're gonna be able to point to and say is responsible for this, And even trying to hold one nation state responsible will

be a very difficult thing. And what would that even mean because it's really the regime, it's the Chinese Communist Party that you would blame for this. It's not the people of China, and we have the same issue with Iran. It's the Iranian regime that is our enemy. Or Ron's dealing with a terrible outbreak there. It's not the Iranian people that are our enemy. So we are at this point in time when we just have to do everything

that we can make, all the preparations possible. You know, for those of you that are fans of the Lord of the Rings trilogy, this is the viral pandemic equivalent of Helm's Deep and we are just trying to put a sword in everybody's hand who can swing one, and hunker down and get ready for it, because that's what it's about to hit us. It's about to hit us

really hard. Those even that are still skeptics, I think there are very few of them now, but there are some who listen to this who I know are still skeptical of how serious this is going to be. We can sacrifice two weeks of economic activity and all this stuff. We can sacrifice two weeks in order to find out if the projections of the experts are right. We can't take a gamble and assume the experts are wrong and let this thing go on without these measures for another

two to three weeks. That's the truth. That's where we are. One of them we can cover from the other one is catastrophic. And thinking about what a great day it would be if I have to sit here, and I mean I'll be laughing and slapping high fives a producer Mark and Man, they were crazy, they were so they were way off, you know, Samson Nite. They were way off. But I think that's a one percent chance at this point.

I could be wrong, but I haven't seen a single expert make a case that we're not about to see a big surge. Now, there are some variables. I want to give you some positive notes here, because I know on the Drudge Report there's this get ready for eighteen months of social distancing story. I saw that too. I read the whole thing. I'm reading all I'm reading the catastrophists and I'm reading the slightly less catastrophists, because that's

really all there is these days, versions of events. But I want to give you some of the up some of the possible positives here and some of the upside, and then we'll talk a bit about also the generational issue. In fact, maybe i'll do the generational issue first, because that's going to play a very large role in how the fight against Wuhan virus. And then we'll get into

the situation with China, how we even got here. And I think this is going to play into the long term relationship between US and China in very troubling ways. If this is as bad as some people are anticipating, there's going to be a backlash against China and the Chinese government from the whole world, but from America in particular, because they are responsible for this situation in many ways. You're in the freedom Huh. This is the Buck Sexton

Show podcast. Now we're going to find out if everything has a risk, We're going to see but if people do what we're telling them to do, what we're asking them to do, you're going to see the saving of a lot of lives. Now, boris in UK yesterday you so what happened. It looked like they were going to get a different way, but that he went a way of similar. I guess similar. I don't know exactly, but I would say we had a conversation yesterday similar to

what we're doing. So a lot of people seem to think this is going to be a we are looking to save the maximum number of lives. Everything else is going to come back. A life is another going to come back, but everything else, our economy is going to come roaring back. You're gonna know, We're gonna know, We're gonna all know that day. Somebody was asking about the day, when will you know? When will you know? We're gonna know all of a sudden, we're gonna say, Wow, that's

looking good. That's looking good, that's looking good, and we're going to be on the other side of the curve. And that's the day that we look forward to. He's right, the day will come. But right now, it's all about life preservation. And life preservation means focusing on protecting, but also increasingly it will be focusing on treating the more vulnerable members of our population, particularly the over seventy age group. Over sixty is in higher risk. Over seventies and very

high risk. I think the Italian data shows that if somebody is over ninety then have a about almost a twenty percent chance of dying if they get this, which is which is very that's very high. Right. It means if you have five people in their night, you can do the math. Obviously that's scary. So there are a lot of people who are deeply concerned about this, and at this moment in time, particularly if you have anybody in your life that's vulnerable, you understand what the what

the risks are, and what's going to add. And you've you've heard this from the president himself. I mean, he's he's concerned about this, he's worried. So those who think that this is some media plot to destroy Trumper, and I think that's by the way overblown by the people people that do want to destroy Trump. But they're saying there's this consensus of people on the right who think that this was all a hoax, that's all been a lie. No one's thought that. We're just trying to make good

decisions as we go through it. But here here's what the president himself. If you think, because I did get a lot of I got a lot of messages last week, Buck, I think you're drinking the kool aid. Buck, I think you're too worried about this. Well, here's what the President of the United States, who doesn't back down to anybody and is not scared of anything. Here's what he's saying

about this play fifteen. Last night, the FDA announced groundbreaking new policies to further increase testing were very substantially so all states can now authorize tests developed and used within their borders in addition to the FDA. So the states are very much involved. They have been involved from the beginning, but we're stepping it up as much as we can, and the testing procedures are going well and within a short period of time, all of the private labs who

will kick in. This's never been done before. Okay, sorry, I actually call for the wrong clip. That's not a producer, Mark. I meant Mark fourteen on what he's asking everybody to do, but that was important on the testing too. Our guidance yesterday urges Americans to take action for fifteen days to

help stem the outbreak. So it's a fifteen day period, I guess, so now would say it's the fourteen day f fifteen days from yesterday, and we're asking everyone to work at home if possible, postpone unnecessary travel, and limit social gatherings, to know more than ten people. By making shared sacrifices and temporary changes, we can protect the health of our people and we can protect our economy, because I think our economy will come back very rapidly. So

it's fifteen days from yesterday. We'll see what happens after that. If we do this right, our country and the world frankly, but our country can be rolling again pretty quickly, pretty quickly. We need some optimism from the commander in chief, which is good, but you're hearing it from the man himself. This is go time right now. Everybody, Thanks for listening to The bus Esson Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts.

The millennials are incredibly good about getting information out in a clear way, but more importantly, they are incredibly good about understanding how to protect one another, how to protect their parents, and how to protect their grandparents. Right now, we need the army of millennials out there doing everything that they can to protect themselves from getting infected because we know a lot of their cases will be mild or asymptomatic, and making sure that they're doing every single

precaution to protect their parents and grandparents. So that was the Coronavirus Response Coordinator doctor Deborah Berks, who's saying, look, we need to make sure that the young people don't think that, because this is less likely to have serious impact on them, that they should just ignore the quarantine orders, ignore all of the massive steps that we're going through right now. I mean, there's all this photo and video evidence.

Not that they're making a criminal case here, but there's all this stuff out there from Clearwater, Florida, other spring break hotspots in Florida in particular, where people are just deciding that they're gonna go and party and they don't really care, and that's the way it's going to be.

So there's this big focus right now on younger people, people in their twenties, people in their thirty You know, I'm kind of right in the in between zone, almost forty, so not really on the young side, I'm not really on the high risk side. I'm sort of somewhere else in the middle. So I feel like I'm a fair a fair arbiter in this process of what's what's right and what's not. Here's the Surgeon General also directing his attention to millennials and the need to have them play

ball with all these different restrictions and orders. Play twenty one A question I often get asked is why should young people care about the spread of coronavirus. Well, we know that people with underlying medical conditions over the age of sixty are at highest risk. But they've got to

get it from somebody. And it's why during our fifteen days to slow the spread initiative, we're encouraging young people to avoid large gatherings of ten people or more because we know that if you get coronavirus, you're at for spreading it to someone else. All right, let's see if they will abide by that, certainly for fifteen for fifteen days,

it seems like a completely fair and realistic request. What happens if the reports you're seeing that this social distancing is supposed to continue to take place well into the fall, well into next year. What of twelve months from now? The government is still I don't think this will happen. But let's just talk about it for a second, because there are experts who are saying, bare, here's the funamount

of problem, folks. Let's say let's say we have perfect lockdown, which we don't, but we have perfect lockdown and we see the number of cases, the number of fatalities start to go down. Let's say it goes down into the hundreds, which would be a miracle. But let's say it does that. In this country, active cases testing is everywhere. All right, Now we go back to normal life, Boom, all of a sudden, you could have another massive outbreak of this

disease here in this country. And so that's why we're going to be dealing with moderated I think, you know, modifications to these measures that are put in place right now, we're not going to be able to deal with. You know, we're not going to have like victory day here anytime soon. Millennials are going to get tired of this. They're gonna say, so, I don't get to have a wedding, I don't get to go outside, I don't get to live my life, I don't get to work. Because the older generation feels

like they're at higher risk. I'm just saying this is this is a risk that people are This tension is already being written about Wall Street Journal an editorial about it today. We're going to get to that point and eventually that's why there there's limited time here. There's limited time for the economy, and there's also limited time for compliance. People who are saying we're going to do this for

a year. No, we're not. You know why, people that are at relatively low risk, you've got three maybe six months to really get this thing under control before they're just gonna start saying, you know, tough, what are you gonna send the cops? You're gonna rest everybody under thirty. This is gonna be get It's gonna get bad. So

keep that in mind. That's why there's this desire, I think, to go specifically to millennials and try to get them to take a different approach here than some of them are where they're just saying and there's this videos of like the girl who's licking the toilet seed, and there's a lot of really stupid stuff going on around there.

There's all these guys who are on spring break who you know, look, I get it, they're nineteen or twenty, but they're like, I mean, I'm not like in the high risk category, and like all my friends are here, and so I just want to like party this, you know, spring break, and I don't really care. And I mean I understand, I mean I wish that everybody would just go along with the plan here for a week or two.

But and I know those of you that live off the grid or have been preparing for years and years, and you've got plenty of food, your own supply, fresh water, not don't have a lot of neighbors around you, aren't relying on state services. Congratulations. The reality that you were warning all the rest of us about, especially as I sit here and I am surrounded by skyscrapers in Manhattan. The reality is the reality that you've been warning about is actually coming upon us right now. So I know

people mocked, people made so many jokes. And I was part of preparedness campaigns when I was at the Blaze, some of our very excellent sponsors telling people just get ready, get ready for a situation just like this, and now we're in it. So I can't help but think about that for a moment, that there was so much Oh, the live media love to ooh people that they love to poke fun at anybody that believes in personal preparedness.

And they're not laughing now, that's for sure. I did have you a play that testing the clip about Donald Trump saying that there's testing that's going to bringing in private labs. That's a big that's a game changer. I mean, they should have gone with that as quickly as possible. The CDC mistakes right now, we all know the CDC messed up with the testing, and initially it got so much attention because they thought they could blame Trump for it.

But I mean, if Trump's telling the head of the CDC, all right, let's get that test out, guys, and the CDC makes a faulty test, is Donald Trump's supposed to design a test? You know what's really fair to ask? What's really the reality of that situation. So I look at this now and I said, oh, there's also the Defense Production Act that has been invoked, which is a

made this just got this just broke today. This means that the federal government will be able to say, all right, we want masks, we want whatever it is that need to be, you know, ventilators. They're gonna able to fulfill those contracts. And it's going to be something that the government now can essentially just write checks to get stuff done and probably set up their own facilities. This is like you know, Ford Motor Company switching from making model

teams or whatever. I don't know what they were making, but you know that's a Ford car from back in the day. Switch from making sedans to making bomber planes. That's what this will allow for. This is the federal government now getting in a position to ramp up and do its own production effectively be the is state. This is state capitalism now on this issue, on this one sector. This is state controlled capitalism at work, which is a

good thing. Leveraging the private sector, having the federal government writing the checks for it. This needs to happen right now. This is a temporary measure. All the people, and I know there's a lot out there right now who are saying the universal basic income has won, because now even Republicans are saying no, this is an emerging see measure.

It's like the things that we did, the things that we said after nine to eleven, and the things that we did as a country were not I mean, in some cases they ended up extending longer, but they were not supposed to be all permanent measures. In extreme circumstances, there are certain things that the government needs to do that it would not be appropriate or wise for it to do under normal circumstances. We are in as much of an extreme as you will find when it comes

to a pandemic. We have faced nothing really like this since nineteen eighteen, and that's where we are, so we might as well understand that and accept it and make the best of the situation we can right now. And that's what I'm hoping that these next couple of weeks we show a real, really impressive national resolve our first line responders, our medical community, also the people that are

delivering food in our food chain. I mean, if you want to see true hysteria that will come if we have disruptions to our food supply, if the Internet goes down, electricity goes off, people. You know, I don't think we're heading for any of that, by the way, I really don't. But the people that are making sure we don't head there,

they deserve our eternal thanks and gratitude. And you know, it's a real reminder that you know that person who's who's bagging groceries for you these days, But but any day, they're doing something that's necessary, they're doing something that helps society, and right now they're doing it at personal risk. This is why I was saying yesterday and I did last night. I ordered in some food. I'm trying to get in some orders from restaurants that I think might close soon,

but haven't closed yet. And I'm just I'm tipping everybody double what I'm I'm a pretty good tipper. I believe in tipping. Woe. I'm a double everyone who delivers. Whatever my usual delivery thing was in the past, double every time. Now it's a little thing. And maybe it's a gesture. Maybe it's just see. I wouldn't say it's not virtue signaling,

because it's actually virtuous. It's the right thing to do, and I want other people to do it too, if you can, if you can afford it, if you live in a place where there's a lot of food delivery, or if you're trying to do everything you can to make sure that this continues on as is so well, continues on, and they'll at least be some ability for the restaurant community to bounce back the economic catastrophe that's

unfolding right now. If we didn't have a disease that was threatened to kill large numbers of our fellow Americans, the economic calamity would keep us up late at night. So look, this government has its hands full. We have not faced anything like this in my lifetime. But I want to talk to you about the China situation, of the Chinese role in all of this too. We'll get

to that. You're in the freedom hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast putting out information which was false that our military gave us, and then that was false. And rather than having an argument, I said our phrase, No, I don't think so. No. I think saying that our military gave it to them, I think that that's pretty straightforward. And I praised Donald Trump for standing his ground there as the leader of this government in this country when the press seems to just want to play along with

Chinese government propaganda our press. David Harsani joins us now. He's been writing about this. He's senior writer at National Review. David, thanks again, always, thank you. Um, what the heck is going on here? Why are we hearing all of this Chinese propaganda, all these Chinese government talking points from our press. They can't be I actually know. I can never say that there are a lot of really dumb journalists, but

I'd like to think that they're not this dumb. But it seems to me that if they're not so stupid as to believe what China is putting out, then they're almost rooting for Trump to get more blame than China. What is going on here, I don't know. I mean, I think part of it is obviously this ingrained necessity to blame Donald Trump for everything that happens. It's destructive and it's I think rendered the press in many ways, you know, or many people in the press useless, useless

to us in any real way other than entertainment. And that's that's a disaster in many ways, because these are the times right now that we actually need good journalism and we don't have it. So I think that that's one of the driving parts of it. I'm not sure

about the other parts. I mean, I see people. I mean I see people, and I don't want to go through names that I see journalists and columnists, some of them who have written literally written books about the evils of communism, just repeating Chinese propaganda right now about how I don't know. Somebody who wrote a book about the famine in Ukraine, who last name rhymes with apple soum. Yeah,

I mean, fantastic, fantastic historians. She wrote a book on the Gulag, you know, she wrote a book on the Iron Curtain, and it's just um I just don't get it and h but anyway, I don't have to get it. All we have to get to is the truth, and the truth is Yeah, well let's get into that. What

in China do here? Well, first of all, you know a lot of these what's name I forget, zoonic diseases, stars, this one, many many others actually you know come from China because you know, it jumps from animals like bats and snakes, and they're not always exactly sure, but it's because there are these wet markets in China where you have you know, animals that are you know, you know,

unsanitary places. You know, Yeah, you basically pick out your civid in a cage and it's like cramped, horrible conditions, and other animals are you know, excreening on it from cages above it, and they're like, you know, lop off its head or whatever, and they hand you some civid kebabs. I mean that's I've seen video. This is what they actually do. Yeah, it's it's not good. And you know, I mentioned today in a column that I think you know once you're I'm a big fan of free trade.

I think that China has lifted millions of people out of poverty because they've allowed some free trading capitalism. And that's all wonderful, but if you're going to join modernity, you have to do things like you have to stop eating bats and possibly killing all of us with some disease that jumps from you know, a bat, to to to Saint Louis and to New York, etc. M you know.

And if the communist government they are spent as much time educating its populous and trying to deal with these kinds of issues as it does suppressing their speech, as it does with baganda, as it does with secrecy, we wouldn't have this trouble. And no one would be calling a China virus because they would Chinese virus or what it flew or whatever, because they wouldn't have to. I don't like Chinese the term Chinese virus. I think it should be called China the Chinese communist virus, or Chai

con virus, something like that. It's not the Chinese people. Chinese people in large part are victims just bad authoritarian governance. And so just as a reminder of everybody, the World Health Organization, on January fourteenth of this year, put out the following tweet from their official account. Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human to human transmission of the novel coronavirus identified in Wuhan, China.

That had to be a lie. I mean, I know it was wrong, but they had to have known them. There's no way. Well, yeah, I mean we now know, and we don't know everything because the Chinese government has i think expelled a bunch of journalists and obviously always as always being secretive, but the Chinese government stop doctors from communicating about this. Initially made some or one doctor or more doctors apologize for for for panicking. Now listen,

I don't think panic is a good thing. Obviously, you don't want that. I think you know. Initially, I'm sure that it's it's a it's a confusing situation and you're not sure what's going on. But once they already knew, they were still allowing people from the Uan province to move freely in and out. I think they think the Wall Street Journal said five million people were moving about.

The Chinese did nothing about that. They were making still making doctors apologize for for sharing information with other doctors and you know, creating worry about this, et cetera. You know, it goes on and on, so U And now you know, we're heaving numbers like China has done a good job in stopping it, and we're using their numbers and news stories as if they're facts. There. We don't know. Chinese

lie about everything. We don't know what's going on in China. Yeah, I mean, do you have any faith that they've really been able to control this as much as they're saying right now, it sounds like they're telling everybody, Oh, we're we're pretty much going to be good here. Yeah, I don't. I don't know who to trust. I mean, it seems

to me that they have some control over it. The methods they use sometimes to get to get that control, I'm not you know, are you've seen some of the video of them dragging people away, soldering doors close, things like that. I don't know what's going on there, And maybe they have or maybe they haven't, but certainly we should not trust what they have to tell us. And you know, like I saw a Bloomberg story just now, you know where Bloomberg says China Europe has now has

more cases than China Are you kidding me? You have no idea I'm any cases they are in China. I mean, I don't trust what China is saying. You can't make definitive statements like that we were in particular, seems to be a little too not just the guy, but the it to me, the news organization always a little bit too China friendly in you. Let's be honest. I mean again, I am a huge free trade guy. You want to bring Chinese money here, I'm all for it, But you

have news organizations I'll say the Atlantic. Wait, David, can you hope for one second? I want to come back and the guys stay with you one second. We'll continue this conversation with David Harsania on China. Thanks for listening to the bus seton show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts.

All right, So we're talking to David Harsani about China's role on all this, and we're talking about the media, the coverage of this, the strange affinity that our own national news media seems to have for Chinese Communist Party talking points through state media. What were you saying, David, right before we took a pause there on the role that China plays in our media, and you were about to talk about the Atlanticum, let's show the Atlantic for now.

I think the Atlantic has been terrible on this, but let's show that for now, because I don't really know exactly how they get their money, but there are a lot of organizations in this country that have a Chinese money and Chinese investors behind them as well as others, and they're probably worried about insulting certain people, and we can't really have good transparency. Are a good debate about

this as long as that happens, I don't. I don't know that that's the fact in every case, but I think that that might have something to do with the way certain people are talking about China. I mean, I know for a fact that you know, behind closed doors, I've been told stories about back when the Saudis were considerably more powerful, when oil was you know, one hundred dollars plus a barrel. The Saudis would tell you they

were investors in different news organizations. And if the Saudi royal family said lay off the whole Wahabism is our main export, not oil, Guess what people did it. Yeah, well, it's not surprising a Chinese would have the same kind of sway and some of these news organizations, right, And you know, it's weird because and I want to stress because I'm sure there are some racists out there who now you know, are you know, say stupid things about

Chinese Americans, et cetera. But there's always stupid racist saying stupid things about everything. So I mean, right, we can't we can't hear all our talk about China simply because there are a few idiots out there. They're gonna be idiots no matter what you do. But the Chinese people themselves are incredibly successful. Right. You think about Taiwan, or you think about Singapore, or you think about Malaysia, even where there are many Chinese people were here in America.

It's not the Chinese people that's that's the problem. It's it's think about Hong Kong, where and what the Chinese people are capable of. If they were be allowed to do those things, they wouldn't We wouldn't have to worry about them in that way. It's the communist government in China that's now the problem. And I think it's important to make sure that we talk about it, and some people in this country don't want to talk about communism

in that way. Now, of course, the Chinese government there is not exactly purist, you know about their beliefs, but it's still an authoritarian place that acts in ways that to me are inexplicable. Sometimes I don't even understand why they do the things they do when they could become just an immense powerhouse in this world in a good way. So it's, you know, it's something we were going to

have to talk about even after this is over. I also think that we're going to see some of the cultural differences at play and dealing with this and in a sense, and this is I'm sure that there are some socio you know, socioeconomic or sociological studies to this, but I do get the sense that the Chinese people overall are less likely to revolt against government dictates an action than Americans are. I don't think we've got that

long here, David. Before people just start saying, I don't care what risks put some people in I've got to live my life. Do you think that we're going to hit that in a few months. Do you think that we've got a year. Sure you're saying, yeah, I think that Americans are not going to be inclined to stay in their homes, yes, you know for six months, right, yeah, yeah, I mean at some point does people make that determ

and the no matter what the government says. I mean, you know, we're only going to be able to right now. The cops are kind of showing up that they see people doing the big gatherings. I think there was a wedding in Brooklyn. They showed up. They're like, a right, everybody, come on, you know, we get it, like you're not bad people, but like, we can't do this right now. Eventually America. I mean in China, it seems like there's you know, no one's telling the authorities at least that

we see. I mean that's obviously we don't really see a lot that goes on there, but we're not seeing anybody saying no, sorry, like Chinese secret police or whatever, like you don't get to tell us what to do. And that's going to happen here. We don't. Americans are going to say, look if we lose four or five percent. I mean, this is crazy to think about, but I

do think it's reality. In six or eight months. If the economy is in a depression and we're told to stay in our homes, Americans are going to say, if we lose four or five percent of us, like, that's just the way this is going to be. We have to go forward. Yeah, I absolutely think at some point people make a cause, you know, cost benefit analysis in their heads, you know, whom lives lost, things like that.

I mean, we do that anyway quite often. You know, we think, think about driving, right, you lose I forget what it is, forty thousand people a year in accidents. We still drive. We don't have five mile per hour speed limits. I think people can get used to any kind anything, right, and then they go on with their lives in some way, especially people who are younger and feel like they're safe. You see that now. I mean there are the pictures of the beaches on Florida packed.

You know, I went out here. I live in a Yeah. I also noticed that. You know, some people are blaming, like Fox and conservatives aren't taking it seriously. But I'm in a super liberal place that went out, uh, you know, and tons of people are out. They don't seem very nervous about it. They're in the supermarket. There's no social distancing that I could tell. And so I wonder if

if some people have already made that determination. A lot of people, right, and I think that in time, you know that that's only going to be a more difficult fight. What is the what are the biggest moves that you think the government through right now on the economic side that will be helpful. It's difficult for me to say that, you know, I mean, obviously this is You're supposed to have all the answers. That's why I bring we bring

you on the show, Come on, give something. I know, I know I noticed that people seem to think they have to have answers for everything. But I'm not one of those people. I do not have a good answer

for that. Obviously. I would say this when you had the you know, the recession to thousand and seven and eight, it was a very different situation because a lot of companies did the wrong thing and a lot of people did the wrong thing, and those you know, there's something wrong with the economy, and you know it needed certain things needed to happen. Certain people need to go out of business. This is some existential threat that is no

one's fault. It's not like the airline companies did something to deserve this, or anyone did something to deserve this. So it's a different situation, and bailouts are a different situation, and sending money to people's a different situation. I wonder how much of an effect that's going to have, really though, If this it drags out for a few months, I don't know that you can save industries that just basically have to shut down for three, four months, five six months.

I just don't know how to come back from that very quickly. Yeah, I also wonder, you know, we've been talking for a long time about how large the national debt is. I mean, if we're going to start just adding a trillion here, a trillion there, a trillion here, a trillion there, with an economy that's effectively on pause, and that's a gentle way of saying it, do people

we are to get closer to that. I'm not trying to add to the hysteria that's out there right now, but do people start to get closer to that point where they say, you know, maybe the dollar isn't the reserve currency anymore, maybe there is a huge run on gold or treasury bonds, all of a sudden, you know, aren't the safe haven? I mean, can you are you worried about that? Or you think that's too far? I'm worried. Yeah,

I'm worried about that. I'm worried about that. But you know, I feel like we don't really know yet what we have in some sense. I think it's bad obviously, no matter how you look at it. But I do wonder how how it's going to look. I don't ever want to diminish this or it's not. It's scary and all that, But when you look at like some of the countries that have flattened their curves, you know, and dealt with it,

you know what we can't. We don't know the bad that can come, but we also don't know the good that can come. How fast do we get to a vaccine? Maybe there is a way to admitigate the effects of this thing? Is Yeah, can I talk about the most positive for it? Because I feel like I'm like depressing myself today on the show because all all the headlines this are so bad. The stock market's like and below twenty thousand on the Dow. I mean, this is this

is rough stuff. What's what's the Harsani, we're all going to be okay. Scenario not scenario, but what's your best case to make that we're all going to be okay? I just go quickly. I want to say. I read some thread yesterday that was just horrifying, right, So I'm in bed reading it on my phone and I'm like, oh my god, we're definitely all going to die. It's the worst thing. And then I turn to the next thing I read and it was like much more positive. I'm like, it's going to be okay. And I'm on

this roller coaster now for weeks. It's like we're all going to die. We're all going to be okay. My view is that you know that we as humans, and we especially as Americans, learn quickly how to deal with

these things. We have a kind of massive economic strength and the type of people and I don't want to sound idealistic, but I actually believe this to be true, that we'll quickly figure out ways to mitigate this thing, and that, you know, my my rosy scenario is that we're going to get over it because we will, because we have to, and that because there was no I mean, it depends how long ago is. Obviously, but because there's no reason for the economy to be in bad shape

other than this thing. Very quickly, people will rebound and come up with what you know that the economy will start growing and people will you know, bouncing back, I mean, and people will will be much you know, will it will sort be a way to spark the economy and hopefully, you know, things rebound rather quickly. I think we might be in a situation where the very in recent years vilified pharmaceutical sector might be People keep talking with the

vaccine vaccine. You can't rush it because if you rush it, you might end up killing everybody you give the vaccine too. So there's no there is no rushing it, right, I mean, they're doing it as fast as they can without tak Yeah, we're right. And and by the way, for those who are saying, oh, well it's just worth the risk, well you could actually start creating strains of effectively supervirus too.

Like there's actual risk that if you give people the wrong vaccine, then that disease will not only take hold in that person, but also might mutate with in them. So I mean, there's real because you can't really I've been reading about vaccine stuff NonStop in recent days. But therapeutics meaning keeping people's lungs from effectively, you know, drowning

from the inside out from this disease. I think Gilead Pharmaceuticals has something that's already been used for other other viruses or testing that if we get a therapeutic that just prevents people for having to worry about hospitalization and dying, which would effectively make this like the flu um Well, I know the flu kills people too, but it would make it, you know, a lesser extreme on the virus spectrum. Pharmaceutical company might be in a position to kind of

save the world and maybe civilization. Dad, Oh yeah, I mean they do that all the time with other diseases as well. I mean, you know, we basically, you know, ease is no longer a death sentence, et cetera. I mean, I don't know that people understand. You know, there's a vilification of pharmaceutical companies and their profit monitoring. Without the profit motive, you're not getting any of this stuff. So it's ridiculous. You know, I'm not saying that pharmaceutical company

is always you know, acting your best interest. A lot of rent seeking, a lot of stuff like that. But overall, of course they're they're amazing, and yeah, you know, there's a lot of talk and I don't know specifics, so I don't get into it. But in South Korea that they have found sort of a like a cocktail of of of drugs that help mitigate mitigate, uh you know, in fact, yeah, and that's so yeah, yeah, so therapeutic stuff.

I mean, I think we're you know, I have faith that we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna do those things because we always do. Right, It's not the first time we have to deal with the disease. So but right now, I think it's important that people stay away from each other so that we don't really overwhelm the system. I think that's the main source of you know, uh, you know that's the scariest thing because you know, the ventilators,

et cetera. So we might have to we might have to like brand your segment, you know, weekly David Hope from HARSANYI, you know, pretty I'm usually pretty optimistic, it's in general, but when you don't know, you know, you know, this is something outside the norm, right, you know, you don't know what's going to happen, and we have to

be really careful. I think at some point you're right, you know, you can sink the economy to the extent that you're in the depression, and then people aren't going to want to do that who feel relatively safe, and that's going to be a problem because you're going to end up killing all your grandparents, etc. David Arsani, Everybody, Senior writer, Nash Review. David, thanks so much as always, Man, we'll talk to you soon. Thank you. You're in the

Freedom High. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. So I wanted to tell you some interesting backstory on how we got to the point where the Chinese, the Chinese government was allowing for these these wet markets, and the more you learn about them, the more just stunning the whole situation is. And it stretches back to the nineteen seventies.

The Chinese Communist Party used to be used to be in charge of all agriculture right and the result of that was that there there was mass starvation and they had ideas like the Four Pests campaign, which was taken during the Great Leap Forward nineteen fifty eight to nineteen sixty two, where they were trying to get rid of all mosquitos, which I'm actually down for that, but turns out mosquitoes are necessary sparrows, rats and flies, and they

you know, they thought that the sparrows were eating too much grain, and so they're going to kill all the sparrows and they'd have more food. But as a result of that, the population of locusts got completely out of control and swarmed the country and resulted in deforestation and famine and just complete and utter calamity. Terrible ideas from Chinese Communist Party, things like that, the four Pests campaign, and it's just a horrifically stupid idea. But the Chinese

Communist Party had lots of those. So they turned over agriculture to private interests in the seventies, so allowed for private farming. But then this was consolidated into some private industries, probably people who were connections in the Communist Party effectively gave them, you know, state sanctioned monopolies to produce food. And so at the local level, the Chinese peasants started raising exotic animals, not that exotic at first, things like turtles, snakes,

small reptiles. They actually were taking in wild animals and then breeding them for food and creating their own little cottage industry of exotic meat essentially. And then this grew over time and it became culturally ingrained in some parts of China, and you started to also have these markets where they would bring all these animals that are not to masticated, that have not been bred for this purpose. They're incredibly unclean circumstances, and you can see photos and

videos of it. It's it's pretty grotesque, but you know, they'll have just cages, the top cages, and there's just

i mean, there's a waste everywhere. And they also then started bringing in truly exotic including endangered animals, and you'd be able to go to some of these wet markets and they would buy you could buy civets, which are threatened species, tigers, you can buy all these really rare animals at a premium for food in these markets because it's easy to hide them among the shipping in of all these different rare animals that nobody would and the Chinese government kind of turned a blind eye to it

for a long time. I was like, okay, well, this is just you know, a way that people are making money and you know, not not really a big deal. And then in the year I think it was the early two thousands, they basically said, okay, well this is now a natural resource of China, and so the government sanctioned the continued trade in these exotic animals for food again, and they would bring them in live. They're not even bringing it's not like they're just trading. You have to remember,

they're not bringing meat to the market. They're bringing them in live animals in cages. That's why they call it a wet market, because they killed them right there. I mean, this is Look, it's it's uncivilized stuff that's going on. I mean, this is not good and it has obviously resulted in a any Look. I know people could talk about American factory farming on it, but you know, we're talking about domesticated animals that we all eat, and there's a sense of you know, you know what diseases you're

working with in that animal population. Zooonotic transmission is so much easier when you're bringing hundreds and hundreds of different kinds of animals alive into cramped conditions and then having people handle them and then eat them. So this is this is China's The Chinese government is responsible for a lot of what has gone wrong here and we will not forget that. Thanks for listening to The Bus Sesson Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the iHeartRadio app,

or wherever you get your podcasts. Bernie Sanders suspends his campaign. Everybody, you got some political news for you today, I know, or take a little break from the gloom and doom of the world is collapsing all around us. Bernie Sanders suspending it because he can't win. And we all know that at this point Bernie Sanders not gonna be able to make it happen. Cannot win. There's not going to be some last minute but I don't even know is there going to be a Democratic convention? Are people going

to show up to this thing? Is? You know, who knows where we're gonna be with all of this? But Sanders is quitting the race, and that then is I think all that you need to know about where this

Democratic primary is going. It's gonna be Joe Biden. I just it's so amazing to me that we were a country of three hundred and twenty million people and the Democrats have so many, you know, so many very wealthy, very influential, not just politicians, but people who are who are vocal Democrats, and the best thing they can come up with is the least to manage, imaginative, the least inspiring, and the least confidence building at a time when we

really need a lot of that in our leadership. I've said this in the beginning, and I continue to say it now. I am thankful that we have Donald Trump handling this crisis and not Joe Biden. I'm not saying that Joe Biden wouldn't want to. I think any politician would do their best with this. I think I think that Donald Trump honestly is more capable and is a better executive than Joe Biden. Now I could be wrong, but I'm pretty confident that I'm not. But yeah, Bernie

is out. After all the all the talk of how you know, he was the candidate who's going to win and he's going to be able to beat Trump, and he about a month ago was almost inevitable, it seemed, winning those early states, Biden having terrible showings. But in the big Democrats strongholds, they really they they just want a return to Obamaism. I think that's what it ultimately comes down to. They want things to go back to the way they used to be in their minds when

Barack Obama was in charge. And the closest thing that they can have to that is Joe Biden as President of the United States. Who's his VP going to be? Well, that will certainly be interesting, won't it. Now A lot I've been saying that Hillary would be an interesting choice for him, and you got a figure that she'd have a lot of But you know, maybe given the direction

of the country right now, they'll want someone younger. Maybe they'll want someone to represent the the younger generation and bring a different age perspective and dynamic into this situation. So I mean, last night, Ohio didn't even have its primary. I think they pushed it to June. He had Illinois and a handful of other states that did have their primaries. No one's even really paying attention. It's going to be Joe Biden. Joe Biden is going to be the Democrat

nominee for president. It's amazing here we are. This guy's been running for president since the eighties, and I guess in a sense, maybe his persistence, his just dogged persistence in the face of what I think others would consider to be good judgment. Maybe it's paying off. I also, and not to bring this back to our primary discussion right now, which is not just here, it's everywhere, right.

I mean, there's nothing, nothing even comes close to the Wuhan virus in terms of our attention and urgency and the economic fallout of it. The risks to our vulnerable populook risk to all of us, not just the vulnerable population. As I've been telling you, healthy twenty five year olds can die from the flu, so that means they can definitely die from this too. I think these people who are thinking, who cares if I get it are really being dumb. Would you say that about the flu? Oh yeah,

there's a flu string going around the office. I'm gonna go in there and just get it, because you know who cares? I'll probably be okay. Anybody who's had the flu, and I have in recent memory, you really don't want that. I actually got the flu, and I started my syndicated radio show like about a week or two before it was it was miserable, so I remember what that was like. We have these these two candidates out Trump and Biden,

and their look. They're both in the high risk population, and they're gonna be out there, They're gonna have to be interacting with people. They have to keep doing their jobs. And it's gonna feel like a national political crisis if, in fact, one or both of the leaders of their respective parties comes down with COVID nineteen. And I do think we have to take that possibility seriously. I know

they're taking it seriously. They're taking the temperature of journalists as they go in to the briefing room for the

White House now in the West Wing. So you know, this is gonna be a political campaign unlike anything else we've ever seen, because people are already talking about the possibility of online voting, and now you're really you know, when you got paper ballots and people showing up hacking and you know, the Russians and all this, that's that's a lot of honestly, a lot of hoopla, a lot of whatever. If you're really going to do it all online,

that gets a little trickier that than me. And could we even set up this cyber infrastructure and in order to do that, Now people are gonna say, oh, that's not going to happen. Well, we'll see. I don't think anybody thought a month ago that there was going to be a shutdown of schools, hotels, restaurants, everything shutting down basically except for a critical life services. So Bernie Sanders is gonna be out there, get back to the political thread here for a moment. He looks like he's finished,

and I can already see where this is heading. I think a lot of you probably recognize this at this stage too. You know, the Democratic campaign is going to be this summer going into the fall, a new new Deal. They're going to say this is like the Great Depression and World War Two, and we need a new deal. And all the analysis, all the research that shows that many of the government actions taken during the New Deal

worsened the Great Depression. That will all be suppressed, forgotten, refuted, ignored, and they're going to say that what really needs to happen here. They're going to be running on a platform of the most massive government expansion of our lives, and with that a lot of socialism. Crisis leads to radical change. The Democratic Party has been getting ready for radical change for a long time, even though Bernie Sanders would not be the standard bearer of this. And look back at

Franklin Delano Roosevelt. He's somebody who the left, you know, reveres, even though put Japanese Americans in internment camps and did extreme things during World War Two. He is revered mostly not because of his actions in World War Two so much as the New Deal here at home. And when you look at that, that enormous expansion of the government, the Democrats are not going to be able to help themselves from trying to use this crisis as an opportunity

to do that all over again. Take what was done one hundred years ago roughly, I mean a little, you know, a little less than a hundred years ago, but ninety years ago with the New Deal, and go forward with a dramatic expansion of all of the aspects of it that they think can you know, and they'll talk about gray. You'll be hearing about green jobs and how the government should be paying people to put solar panels on rooftops everywhere.

And you know, there's gonna be all this stuff. We are going to be having a replay here of some of the debates about government and the role of government from crisis periods in the twentieth century. We're gonna be replaying that now, so you heard it here, My friends, Democrats are going to be advocating for a new new deal, and I don't think they're gonna call it the Green New Deal overall, but they're they're going to have some

role out of it, some name of it. And Joe Biden, who they claim as a moderate but is actually not moderate on his positions at all, because he's where the Democratic parties. The Democratic Party is not moderate. Joe Biden is going to be advocating for a massive expansion of government and you know that is going to be that that's going to be the platform. I mean, they're going

to go forward forget about this, you know. So in a sense, it'll be a return to Obamaism insofar as what would Obama do if he were faced with this crisis right now? We saw that they did in the two thousand and eight financial crisis, just turn it into opportunity to expand government spending all over the place. I mean, Obama spend trillions and trillions and trillions of dollars on items that the Democratic Party have wanted for a long time.

So Biden is effectively going to carry that mantle now as he's got he's gonna even better crisis if he wins to remake the American economy, expand government dramatically, and turn us into a European style social welfare state with very you know, centralized control of the private sector by the government. So there we go. I would also say, I meant to tell you about the good side, and I kind of skipped past it. The way this gets better fast. If we're pretty good about the lockdowns, we're

gonna be okay. It's not gonna be fun. It's gonna

be very scary for a while. But the only way that this gets like we're celebrating in the streets and everything's gonna be cool is in the next let's say, three to six months, would be if they develop some ways of treating this where you go to the hospital if you can't breathe, they give you the drugs, and you know, you have a even if you are in their critical risk population, you end up having a you know, you know, if you have a ninety nine percent chance

of survival with the treatment, with the anti viral drugs that they can give you. If we get to that point, things get better really fast. And you know that's so if there's ever been a time when we could call together all of the best minds in the world on microbiology, virology, you name it. I mean, whatever, the epidemiology. The people that have real expertise in this, we need them to come together like the like the Avengers and just do every and the big pharmaceutical companies we need them to

come up with something here to deal with this. We need all the expertise of the world brought together on this one. I mean, this is the closest thing I've ever seen or felt to that moment in the movie Offering arm and Getting where they bring together all these guys and they have to drill into the asteroid and

you put the nuclear device into the whole thing. We need a team of like the best deep core drillers in the world, except they're the best virologists in the world, people that study this and come up and team up with the smartest multinational pharmaceutical companies and have some treatment for this. The treatment is much more likely to come online quickly than a vaccine is just not going to come on lunk quickly because the risk is too high.

As I said that, you're going to kill people by giving them even if the risk is low that you're going to kill people who wants to take the possibility that you're going to give them a heightened form of this disease and you might not find out for thirty or sixty days after they get it, and you're gonna give it to millions of people. I mean, it's just not they need to be sure that's what they're going

to say. We might get to the point. I mean, I wonder when people just want they'll want to take the risk themselves and just say, you know, eject me. I don't care. I don't know. We could we could be heading for those kinds of extreme measures. But let's just I am hoping that there will be within sixty

days a breakthrough on the treatment of this. Not a cure or not a vaccine, but a breakthrough on the treatment of it would be a huge sigh of relief for the whole world right now, particularly here in the United States. You're in the freedom hunt. This is the Buck Sex and Show podcast really does stun me to what degree the democratic establishment continues to ignore the needs and the ideas of younger people and if elected president. By the way, it's not only that we're going to

fight for our agenda. We're going to involve the young people in the decision making process in a way this country has never seen before, because this is a great general So those are nature achievements. We've changed the political dialogue in this country. We are winning overwhelmingly the support of young people, and they're all gonna be told now go vote for Joe Biden. The Bernie Coalition is going to be handed over to the Democrat establishment, as I

think was really just expected and planned all along. None of this really surprises me. I think this is this is really what we should have been thinking all along was going to happen in a way. I mean, it's easy now, hindsight's twenty twenty. It's easy to say that. But it all makes sense, doesn't it. Oh yeah, sure, we're all radicals, but we're not really gonna let this

like crazy old socialist. We're gonna put it in the hands of a too old for the job career machine democrat politician like Biden, not the guy running around talking about revolution going to be a revolution, yeah, Bernie style. Also, we heard from the govn Well, how'd heard from him in a long time. But he has a couple of pet donkeys that he's hanging out with. And here is his message to all of us who are stuck in

quarantine play twenty. See. The important thing is that you say at home, because there's a curfew now, okay, no one is allowed out, especially someone that is like seventy two years old. After you're sixty five. You know a lot of our house and in my California. So we stay home and we eat here. Right. Oh yeah, there's yummy, and it's the whiskey, and there's Lulu. Lulu love scarrots, whiskey love scirrots. I just said my little bit of Bigan food. Oh that yummy. Oh see, that's what we do.

We don't go out. We don't go to restaurants. We don't do anything like that anymore. Here we just eat with whiskey and b Lulu. We have a good time be getting entertained. Look at the beautiful smells she has. Oh yes, oh yes, the youngest. We have a good time eating you together, so much more fun than going outside. No more restaurants, okay, no more restaurants. Forget all that company gatherings, restaurants and orders days out of the window. You stay home, you stay home. You stay home with

the donkeys. You stay home with them on your feet. Whiskey and Lulu the best of the things that you can. Uh. Yeah, Schwarzeninger seventy two. Man, I spent so much of my youth watching that guy in movies. It was It's incredible in retrospect. I watched them in The Terminator Commando Predator. I watched them in total recall. I feel like no one watches that one anymore, but I watched that movie a lot of times. We I own these on VA my brothers and I own these on VHR. That's why

I'm such an action movie junkie to this day. But he's saying, stay at home with your donkeys. I don't have donkeys. I wish you could see the video. The videos amazing. He's got these little donkeys with him, Which is like producer Mark, if I gave you a pet donkey to take home, would that keep you and missus Mark? Wouldn't keep you guys company? Or would you rather not have livestock in the house right now? I'd rather maybe

a dog? You go dog first, Yeah, But if your only choice was a miniature donkey or nothing, what would you take um, maybe maybe the donkey right now because the wife's still on Long Island, so I'm a little a little lonely, so you're solo. Yeah, see this like I took my parents Frenchie Tlu. Lulu is the name

of his donkey, which I think is pretty funny. We've got Telu for Telula and those of you that watch on the on the Pluto TV stream the show Pluto TV channel to forty eight, the first those are you who have it's a free app. Guys downloaded. You can watch the video of me doing the mobile Freedom Hunt the Quarantine Freedom Hut, but to lose sometimes appears in the shot she likes. She also likes to walk over and put her belly on my feet when I'm doing

the show. That's like her favorite position for whatever reason. I don't know why, but she likes to do these things. But it's nice to have a little, a little furry companion, except when she wakes me up because she wants the producer Mark not only I told you about the headbutting the food bowl, which is crazy, and now I've learned I've got to have a very precise mix of dry and wet food for her in her bowl or else, she'll start headbutting the bowl all over my apartment like

a bowl. I guess she is a bulldog with us for different reasons. If I have any door to any room in the apartment closed, she'll wake me up and she'll scratch at the door until I leave it open. She wants access everywhere. Nothing is allowed to be off limits to her. That's every dog. You can't close doors. Yeah, they don't like they don't like closed doors. I don't know how. Yeah, it's she if I if I try to close the bathroom she doesn't obviously go in the

bathroom for any important reason. We haven't trained her to like sit on the potty yet. But if the bathroom doors closed, she will scratch it and make me open it. I'm like, what is this? You mean you don't like going to the bathroom with your dog? No, see, I like to close the door. But but more to the point, even if no one's in there, she just insists on the door being opened. She wants for That's what I'm saying. She wants free access to every room in the apartment

or else. She'll drive me nuts until I do it. You know, I don't know, I think she's maybe it's just she's very French, but this is the way we're doing it. She's very curious. Yeah, we got roll call coming up. Thanks for listening to The Bus Sesson Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the iHeart Radio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, so we got to do an on air. I mean, I don't know if it's it's not a correction, because we're just

telling you what had been reported. Axios has now retracted that Sanders suspended his campaign. So as you hear this, you know, maybe maybe that that will be unretracted, but now it is retracted. So look, Bernie's not going to be the nominee. He might as well quit. The whole thing's a joke at this point, and honestly, nobody cares because we're all stuck indoors and hoping that humanity doesn't come to an end. I'm just saying, let's do roll call.

Everybody's the show ain't over yet, folks, keeping it real. It's time for roll call, all right, Roll call Facebook dot com, Slashbuck Sexton or Team Buck at I heart media dot com. James kicks it off. For us. James is a great name. It's actually tactically my first name. Learn something new every day on this show. You know that the end is near when Tom Brady isn't a Patriot. St. Patrick's Day and bars are closed and March madness is a virus sanitized shields hie. Yeah, man, you guys all

know I told you I did shows. You're probably like book you will selling you four Like I was like, guys, the country we're in great shape. Things are amazing. You know three months ago, six months ago, nine months ago. That's kept telling you. I kept telling you. You You know it is true. Brucer Mark, wasn't I telling people things are as good as they're gonna get in this country For a long time, I was a happy man. I was telling everybody it's not gonna last forever. Yesterday something

great happened. What was that? Tom Brady left the Patriots. Oh yeah, so there are good things. I guess that still go on. He's going to the Buccaneers. Yeah. Do you think they're gonna have like a like a four and twelve season? Now? No, I think they'll be pretty good. I just don't get why the Buccaneers, I mean, how many years could he possibly have left. I mean, the guy's in a machine. I could see him playing till fifty. He said he wants to play till he's fifty. That's

kind of amazing. Yeah, he's forty three now. But I mean the Buccaneers they're an okay team right now. I don't know how much better Brady makes them at this point in his career. Yeah, that's a fair point, all right, Kelly Buck. I've been a loyal listener for about three years, and I never miss a podcast. I was mowing the lawn today and met a neighbor named Rose from the Philippines. She's from the Philippines and has only been the States

for about a year and a half. She told me she applied for her visa to come to the States when she was seventeen. She waited twenty four years for it to be approved, and even turned down marriage proposals because it may have affected her place in line to come to the States. She's single and living with their sister at age forty two. She had nothing good to say about those who cheat by claiming asylum and is a incense by their claims of rights. She says, what

rights do they have when their lawbreakers. From the start. It was a very enlightening conversation Shields High Kelly I brought this up many times. Legal immigrants who go through a real struggle to get into this country and be able to stay here have you know, they have this feeling that they're chumps because they actually did it the right way. They did the way this country asked them to, the people of this country asked them to. So I'm

glad you were able to have that enlightening conversation. It's not surprising that somebody who went through all of that process feels that way. And it's just a reminder to all of us that you know, the rules either apply. You know, the laws, either the law or it's not.

It can't be this both ways or only sometimes. And there's a lot of lawlessness in immigration law specifically, and the open borders crowd is going to have a really tough time explaining why we shouldn't have control of our borders when it seems like border controls may have been one of the few things early on we got right

in dealing with this pandemic. Tim Rights, why doesn't the president require ten or twenty billion dollars for border wall and enforcement in the bill being hammered out with the House Democrats. It's being larded up with so much ridiculous fever swamp dreamlib fantasies. Trump should say he'll sign it when they put it. When they put in border enforcement and wall funding, we could help the economy by creating

jobs too. Canada just closed their borders to any nonresident, non citizen folk, so border security must work to controls zoonotic disease and pandemic migration. We should certainly follow Canada and Europe's lead, since Libs always want to emulate both and gain some control over our borders and not waste a good crisis shields time. Yeah, Tim, yep, that's true about the borders. The President is not going to be able to try to slip him in the Congress right now.

They're just look if Republicans have to be the bigger the bigger people on this one, or you know, take the high road on this one by not larding it up. I think that we just got to get this thing done and get it done properly. We need emergency financial measures to keep this country from collapsing. Doug Hey Buck sobering insightful and entertaining podcast last week. Thank you. With some downtime, I have been able to go back and listen to pass podcasts from the Freedom How I missed

last year? Wow things Now that things have played out, your prognostications were dead on Mueller, impeachment, Democrat candidates, you name it. Not surprised but even more impressed. Good job. Thank you very much, Doug. I will say my anything that had to do with national security investigations or just national security in general. Notice how I was not panicked about the Kurds in Syria. I was right. I was not. I was correct at every and look, I'm not sitting

here to talk about how wonderful I am. I don't do that. Other hosts do that. I wish people would recognize it's kind of weird, but other hosts are always talking about there's only one host who should walk around being like I'm the most amazing at this and we all know, we all know who he is, and everyone

else should should have some serious humility. I think, no matter how rich or famous you may be, but I've been right on everything having to do with them other probe from day one, from the very beginning, even more right than some of the people who Now you know, I tweeted out to I haven't heard back from from Hugh hugh It, I tweeted out, and look, I'm not I don't have any problem with you, Hugh It. He seems like a nice guy. I've never met him, but I mean, if I've heard, he's a nice enough dude.

But you know, he came at me kind of hard when I said that the indictment of the Russian troll farm was a PR stunt and was going to go nowhere. And it was and I was right. And he's a constitutional law scholar who taught at Harvard. I don't even have a law degree, but I know more about national security than he does, so I was right. So there's that anyway, Ryan, hey Buck, serious questions about the Chinese virus. From what I'm readying, they're a little reading, it says reading,

and it's not my fault reading. There are a little over seven thousand deaths worldwide. I believe it started in November of twenty seventeen. However, when you look at flu deaths, we're at one hundred and nine thousand globally for twenty twenty. Am I missing something. Why. The mass hysteria over something that is killing not even ten percent of what the flu has in a short time frame got my shields of skepticism real high on this one election year hysteria

look ryan important always to ask why. And I think people that approach any of these questions in good faith are well within their rights to continue to ask for more information and more more of a really a justification for our we we're taking these steps. So here's where it's at. The flu, we take no precautions whatsoever really as a society to avoid We essentially have like free flowing flu all over the place, and you just hope

you don't get it. But this disease is ten times as lethal, maybe twenty times as lethal as the flu. So you're gonna have a much if you do that, you're gonna have a much much higher body count. There's also the belief right now in the scientific community that it is more easily transmitted than the flu. Now you know, who knows, that might be adjusted, but so you might have a higher number of infected in the overall population

and a much higher number of deaths. And remember the death's number isn't from a structural medical standpoint isn't necessarily the thing the only thing that you have to focus on. There's also ICU admissions. People that have to be in the ICU for three or four weeks on a ventilator because they get COVID nineteen. They are you know, that's a huge drain on the system. And we need to give people that care, obviously, but we can only give so many people that care. There's only so many beds.

You know. This is where the sander Nistas and the promise of universal healthcare and free healthcare for everyone. Okay, everyone gets free healthcare according to the government. What happens when you have a thousand and six people and you only have ten doctors for them. What happens you have ten thousand people that need icucare and you've got five thousand ICU beds. You're going to wave around the Bernie

Sanders proclamation that everybody gets free healthcare exactly. So this is a lesson for all of us in that regard. But to really get to the meat of your question, if we wait on this, by the time we know that all these estimates are correct, as in ten to twenty times a fatality rate higher transmissibility. By the time we get there, it's too late and you won't be able to stop the collapse at least temporarily of the

healthcare system and mass casualties. You know, tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands dead from this in a month. So that's where we are. As I've been saying, if a few weeks pass and you know, who knows, they're Oh. One other part of possible good news. Something we really need to find out is do you have immunity to this if you get it and you get through it. They won't. They won't confirm that yet. I'd like to

think the answers yes, they're saying they don't know. Well, then what we might have to We might have are a lot of people who will be immune to it when they recover, and we're going to need those people, especially if they're younger and healthy, to really step up and help out with every you know, do a lot.

And it's going to be and I'm hoping there'll be millions of people that if this spreads the way they say, it's going to the young and healthy who get it, and there there could be you know, there could be millions of them would be able to be out there and you know, continue necessary services and do things for the rest of the of the of the vulnerable population that we really need to keep sequestered away. But yeah,

we can't. We can't take the risk right now. Is essentially the answer to your question, Ryan, because if they're right, it's going to be catastrophic, if they're right, that the numbers are going to spike in this way and overwhelm the healthcare system, because remember ten ventilators, twenty patients who need them, they show up, guess what, no ventilator. You can't breathe. Maybe you've got hours to live, maybe maybe even less. So you're just you're gonna people are gonna die.

That's what's gonna happen. They're just not gonna have what's the doctor gonna do. Pull the ventilator out to one person, let them die so that somebody else gets a ventilate. I mean, this is this is what is happening in Italy. So that's where we are. Italy has made this whole thing very different in a lot of people's minds because we're seeing this play out. We have real numbers. We trust the Italian government's reporting on this more than we

trust a Chinese government. And Italy has a you know, first world healthcare system, very developed, similar to our own, you know, world class doctors, serious medical facilities, and they're completely shell shocked by this. So that's what really that looked Italy was. The change for me was oh, okay, no, this we're about to get hit with a tidal way. This is real, and I look, if I'm wrong, just stay with me, your team, as you have, many of

you have now for years. And I'm going on and it'll be this tune the ninth year that I've been in this business, and I think the eighth year I've been doing radio. So some of you've been with me a long time, and you know that if I'm wrong on this, not only will I admit it, I'll be thrilled. I'll be doing a little buck dance here in the Freedom Hup, going wild if it turns out that this is not nearly as bad and all this stuff was

a you know, excessive and everything else. As I've told you, I think the chance of that happening is about one percent. Dan dear Buck, thanks so much for sharing your wealth of knowledge with all of us. To tune in love your show most out of any on the TV or the radio. I ran out of current podcast to listen to, so I was listening to some oldies but goodies, and I was listening to podcast entitled The Impeachment Turkey's Cooked. I'm sure you remember what you said that day, approximately

twenty one minutes in. I just in case you don't remember, you were talking about things, We're going so good for our country, but you had this ominous feeling that something bad was going to happen this year. Well you were right, some profit you turned out to be. Just wanted to remind you of that. Thanks again for entertaining us and lighting us. You are the best. That's kind of what I've been saying. Guys, I knew that, you know, Mark, can we pull pull, Let's pull from that, you know,

twenty one minutes in on the Impeachment Turkey's Cook. Let's s's grab that audio for tomorrow, just so I can hear back what I said because I had this feeling. I remember, I had a feeling before nine to eleven, and I'm telling you, like weeks before nine to eleven. I'm not trying to say that I'm have premonitions or something. But I remember thinking, you know what, my generation and we're all just we're all just running around. We're kind

of superficial. We're just partying. You know, what's our great fight? What's our great struggle? You know there's you know, the stock market, you know is seeing well. I mean, actually there's a big tech tech sector collapse. But you know, overall, the economy was strong and we didn't have any enemies, and there was just a sense of an almost blase euphoria.

And I thought, what what? And I wasn't thinking that something terrible is going to happen that by the way, that I won't say that, but I was thinking, like, man, we just don't there is no fight for this generation. And then the planes ran into the towers in the Pentagon a few weeks later. I mean, I'm really and I'm like, oh, my generation certainly, and the generation above me and the generation above that, we certainly have a fight on our hands. And we did. You're in the

Freedom Hud. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. All right, we get Jack. It's really one of my favorite names. I think Jack's a great name. You ask for feedback from listeners around the country. I find myself in the disappointing position of being in ground zero for the Commonwealth of Virginia. Williamsburg has nine confirmed cases and one death. The schools have been closed for two weeks to start with. Most government offices closed at noon on Friday and will

be closed Monday. Local businesses are feeling they hit. Grocery stores have some empty shelves, but not overwhelming numbers. In my neighborhood, more people are walking, which can't be a bad thing. I'm working on my woodlathe more. Never let a crisis pass. Yeah, Jack, I want to do more of that. You know. Tomorrow in the third hour, I'll talk to you about how I'm gonna try to make a list and actually put it up on the wall of what do I want to accomplish during this time

of social distancing? What do I want to accomplish? And by the way, another thing that I've been saying or thinking about I'm gonna do. I'm gonna start doing it. Team. I'd like to do some Facebook live with all of you, or I just sit and we hang out and talk. You know, this will be our way of dealing with social distancing. It's easy obviously, I've got to set up at home where i can do this now, so some of you write to me and let me know. You know,

is the best time in the evening. That's probably when I'm most likely to do it, you know, maybe around seven Eastern so anybody's done with their workday. I know a lot of people are working from home now, but that I don't want to interrupt family time. But you know, there's also everyone's home all day with their families, so maybe and you're not seeing family that you're no living here any works, you're not traveling, So I don't know. I'm just trying to think of one of the best

time is to do this. But I want to have more interaction with all of you, and I also want to start. I'll pull together the ten books you must read during quarantine. How about that that's a good a good thing for us to have. I'll pull some of them movie books I've already or books I've already read, others, won't. I mean, I'll tell you that one book that I've already set aside for my quarantine, and you're gonna say, I can't believe you haven't read that, And I'm that's

why I'm reading it. Guys, I admit there are some weird book gap book book gaps, gap books, book gaps that I've missed. Buck Speak English Good Moby Dick, never assigned it and never read it. I'm gonna be read movie Dick while I'm in self quarantine, and I'll tell you what I think about that one. I'm obviously watching a fair amount of shows. I've gotten into this show

the Boys, and we'll talk more about this. I mean, guys, I think this is important for all of us, and I want to hear from all of you, and I could see more people writing into Roll Call. Please do that.

It is Mike. You are my connection to the outside world right now, all of you who listen to this, who write in, who watch us, and we're just gonna try to find more ways Producer Mark and I to you know, have community, and you know you can always address something directly, you know, to Producer Mark if you want a Roll Call to to get one of his salty answers. So you know, guys, reach out to us. We're gonna be reaching out to you every day and

we'll be back here tomorrow. We're all in this together. Shields High

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