Evil Strikes New Zealand

really matters with actionable intelligence. Make no mistake American, You're a great American. Again the buck Sexton Show begins. Remember this was an attack aimed deliberately at Muslims. A live streaming the massacre via a camera mounted on his head. We are not showing any of that video at this point, but I have watched it for the sake of our reporting. It shows the gunman driving calmly toward a mosque playing music, talking to himself saying, let's get this party started. He

then takes weapons from his trunk. He walks toward the mosque, which was filling up for Friday prayers. He opens fire, gunning down at least two men at the doorway. Then he walks inside, he shoots every single person he can see. He reloads several times, and at one point goes back into a room where two large groups are laying on the floor, many of them clearly already dead, some just wounded, and he walks calmly around taking kill shots, finishing off

his victims with head or body shots. It's a tragic day for the whole world today because of what has happened here in New Zealand. People are understandably rattled, shocked, outraged, furious. Forty nine people dead at prayer, forty over forty people wounded, and clearly this is one of these national international news stories that is going to force a lot of conversations,

some of them constructive, most of them not. Though within minutes of this incident first coming up, within minutes of this first becoming something that people were talking about, there was an effort to begin to pin to pin blame

to find. You know, the blame should be pretty straightforward in these situations, and I think you all know that it is the shooter, the terrorists, the person who engaged in these violent acts is the person that we all should first and foremost think about as the one deserving of blame. They're now in There are a few people in custody in New Zealand. But we didn't even have

the details in fully on this. We did not have all that much information when it came about that you had some of the most prominent Democrat politicians in the country deciding that they would find a way to make this about Trump, that this was Trump's fault. Now, I read through the entire manifesto of the shooter, as is becoming a custom of people in the media. Now, I don't know how useful it really is. I don't know

that it will work. Although there is some research to show that these mass shooters crave fame and attention, and so the more you give them, the likelier there'll be other people that follow when their foots steps. But so I won't name him. I don't feel particularly strongly about naming one way or the other. But there's there seems to be a movement among people in the media that I respect, and then I think have good judgment to try to avoid just repeating over and over again the

name of the person who is responsible for this. And I did, however, read the manifesto, and there are parts in it that were seized upon immediately by Democrats and by the mainstream media in this country as a see this is tied to the right. The guy said that he did not like Trump's policies at all, but he likes Trump as a symbol of white nationalism something along

those lines. He also had a bizarre reference in his manifesto, which has been making a lot of This reference in particular, has got a lot of attention that I to Candice Owens, who I know her work. I know Candice a little bit. I've worked with her before. She has nothing to do with targeting Muslims or violence or any I mean, it's just the guy might as well have said, you know a person whose work I really admire is you know, Luciano Pavaratti. I mean, it has nothing to do with anything.

But people seized on that and they tried to say that this is just indicative of the way that the right wing is fanning these flames of resentment and violence. You know, let's let's now take a look, let's step back from what the media narrative is of this and try to get to a bit more of what the truth is here. There are billions of people in the world.

The truth is that mass shootings on a percentage basis around the world are actually are actually quite rare, and that a shooting like this by a self described white nationalist, as horrific and deeply disturbing as it is, is fortunately also very rare. This shooter viewed Anders Brevic, who was the shooter in Norway some years ago, as an inspiration for him. Bravick was, I think almost a decade ago. Now this is a rarity. Doesn't mean it's not horrible.

It doesn't mean that there won't be and should not be follow on consequences and conversations to this. But the effort to make this somehow Donald Trump's fault is just unfair in every respect. The media and the people in the media who are the different different outlets who are taking this as an opportunity to score cheap points against President Trump, I think they do a disservice to everyone right now because there are some things that are not

political at all. There are some things that aren't about where you stand on the US or any other political spectrum. Really, it's just about being a human being, and no person who was decent, who is moral, who is in his or her right mind has anything but contempt for somebody who would go into a house of a worship, a house of prayer and gun down completely innocent and totally

helpless people. Instead of uniting in this country and condemnation of what happened here, there has been a very clear immediate backlash against anybody who is a political target of the left. They are playing this game that I've seen many times before. Whenever there is jee hottest terrorism, they immediately want to explain to us all that gee hottests are a very small percentage, that this is not the

true Islam, that has nothing to do with Islam. And I actually think there's a much more in depth conversation to be had about whether it has to do with Islam or not, and whether you know that there's there's real discussion to be had there, and the left never wants to have it. They say even bringing that up is racist. You know when Obama said famously, the Islamic State is not the Islamic North State, Uh, you know

that that's that was a very debatable proposition. And there are a lot of groups all over the world that seem confused and regimes that run whole countries that seem confused about what the true Islam is. Um. That's not to say that Muslims around the world are all radicals, quite the quite the opposite, ninety nine plus percent of them, or just folks like you and me just trying to, you know, take care of the families, feed the kids,

go about their day to day lives. But an ideology of over a billion people is going to have, Unfortunately, even with a very small percentage, a large contingent of radicals that can be very disruptive, as we saw as we have seen in recent years, and horrifically destructive as we saw on nine to eleven. White nationalists as a as a terror group are in my view, exaggerated as a threat in most public discourse and most of the news media's mind. And the notion that Donald Trump is

somehow a white nationalist. I mean, this is a guy who is born and raised in New York City and no one ever thought he was a white nationalist until he ran for president. And now they really think this. I don't know if they believe it or if it's just useful for them to pretend. On the front page of the Washington Post right now, Trump downplays the risk of white nationalism. Quote, it's a small group of people. That's what the Washington Post is saying. The truth is,

it is a small group of people. You know, I work in conservative media. I know a lot of very hardline right wingers. A lot of them are my friends, and we all have absolute contempt for white nationalists, neo Nazis, anybody like that. We think that not only we have contempt for them, we think they're losers. We think they're idiots.

They don't know anything. Their ideology is really just based on resentment of everything because their lives aren't what they think they should be, and so they look for answers, they look for explanations for that. But there is no global support for white nationalism. There is no global threat of white nationalism taking over a country. You know, Look what you have in Iran, Look what you had in the Islamic State in Syria, Look what you had an Afghanistan.

In these other plays, white nationalism is not about to take over a country and maybe get nukes. And these are not equivalent forces for global destabilization and for violence and causing violence around the world. They're not even they're not even close. But right now, what we are being told is that President Trump is in some way partially responsible for this, and it's so deeply destructive and the people who are saying it should be ashamed of themselves

because there's nothing to back this up whatsoever. But they know that the hatred of this president is such that they won't even give him. They won't even give him the good faith of what is obviously the case that President Trump hates what happened in New Zealand, despises this shooter, and were it in his powers, commander in chief would have done anything and everything to stop this person. But of course this was on New Zealand, so I'm not on us soil, and that they don't believe that is

deeply troubling to me. That the left thinks that this is an opportunity to tear down this president, and that's really their first inclination, and not just President Trump. By the way, there are other targets that have also come under attack from the left that I have nothing to do with this, this terrible event, this mass shooting in

New Zealand, Alexandriocazzio Cortez has written. She wrote on Twitter that thoughts and prayers is a reference to the n NRA's phrase used to deflect conversation away from policy change during tragedies. That is so insidious and incorrect and stupid, it's hard to know where to start. Thoughts and prayers, Congresswoman Okazio Cortes, is a reference to thoughts and prayers.

It's a reference to people wanting to send you know, their their prayers of God's grace and support and help to individuals in a terrible circumstance and to the families left behind. And it's an expression of basic human solidarity and goodwill and decency. Thoughts and prayers is not an NRA phrase used to stop policy solutions to stop gun violence. New Zealand has almost no gun violence as a country, has less than less than fifty murders a year in

a country of five million. There's almost no gun violence in New Zealand anyway, So what is the what is the policy solution supposed to be for a case like this? Don't allow a mass murderer to be a mass murderer and to ever exist in the first place. I mean, as manifesto is a rambling and incoherent mess of bitterness and hatred and disdain for his fellow human beings. And yet we're supposed to think that he is connected to American conservatism or he doesn't like conservatives. He even says

in the manifesto he doesn't like Trump on policy. He says in the manifesto. I read the whole thing today, about seventy pages. He's a racist, He's a true white nationalist racist. He's a disgusting discredit to humanity. And he killed all these people today of the mosque, and it's horrible, and I wish that somebody had been able to interview

even sooner. It is worth. It is worth I think, noting that the reports, at least so far that I've seen, or that a Muslim meant who was a legal gun owner did manage to return fire on them and may have saved a lot of lives in the process. So a Muslim hero, he'd step up here. I just wish he could have been there at the very beginning and stop this whole thing and put two in this shooter's head before he was able to hurt anyone. But there was there was action, there was heroism, and you know,

I don't know. I've thought about whether I would watch the video I've just seen so many of these terrorist videos and beheadings and tortures and everything, and it stays with you. And I think we all know, and I think that the shooter wants us to watch, And I don't know if that really adds a necessary context to it. There are no solutions. I don't have any solutions for you. People say in back, you worked in counter terrors, and what should we do. There's evil in the world, my friends.

There are evil people who will do evil things. Sometimes it will be in the form of a mass shooting. Sometimes it will be in the form of a bombing, or it will be a militia that goes into a village and slaughters everybody, or it will be a systematic torture of political opponents. Or there is evil in this world. The choice that we make every day is in our own way. Do we fight against it? Do we do what we can to make sure that evil does not triumph.

You have a role to play in this. I have a role to play in this, all of us do every day. Are we kind? Are we decent? Are we honorable? Do we treat each other well? Do we stand up for one another? Do we show bravery? Do we have integrity. That's how we fight evil. Doesn't mean you're going to eliminate. It doesn't mean we're gonna win every battle. But we do the best we can. And to those on the other side of the world who are mourning right now,

we do send thoughts and prayers. We'll be right back. And who is going to be the boogeyman of the next ten to twenty years. Who's going to be the great rival to the United States in the eyes of American society China? That's right, And so what do you think the attitude is going to be over time for the shrinking in secure, a white majority that's losing their jobs, for let's say, Chinese Americans or Asian Americans. I don't.

I'm like I personally, I said to a group at Harvard, I think we're one generation away from falling into the same camps as the Jews who were attacked in the synagogue in Pittsburgh, like just a couple of months ago. It's like, we're probably one generation away from Americans shooting up a bunch of Asians saying like, you know, damn the Chinese because there's a giant cold war. Even more with China That is the great danger that I fear that my children are going to grow up in. That's

Andrew Yang, who's a presidential candidate. He's concerned that the competition with China is going to lead to people going in and shooting, shooting Asian Asian Americans, shooting up Asian churches. You know this, This is not helpful. I mean, what you're hearing from people now, what you're hearing from Democrats is not in any way adding anything into this conversation that will help avert something like this in the future, that will help heal. This shooter wanted to create divisions.

That is what he wanted to do. It was explicit in his very manifesto. And by acting like this is somehow the fault of conservatives in America, they are giving the shooter exactly what he wanted to accomplish from this, other than the horrific mass carnage. This guy was a terrorist. Let's not give the terrorist what he wants. We'll be back.

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engage in terrorism on a global scale. It is a very small group of people, but the President gets a lot of a lot of heat for this. People want they want to believe that there is some connection to President Trump. They want to believe that he is because of his rhetoric. You know, he's the reason that this is going on. He said, I think it's a small group of people that have very very serious problems. Yeah,

that's right, that is true. And I've been seeing and i haven't have watched some of them because I'm on air with you, but there have been some panels on CNN in the last hour where they're just all coming up with ways that you know, Trump's rhetoric inspires this and Trump, Trump gives cover to these white nationalists. And you know, Trump has said that white nationalists are losers. He says that they're they're a joke, that there are

bad people. It doesn't matter what he says, though, they're still going to take this position that Trump is in some way a white nationalist sympathizer or you know, he's created this this new environment where white nationalists can thrive. And I'm gonna just note that whenever, whenever we talk about radical Islamic terrorism, that the script is entirely flipped. It's it's not the fault of the ideology, it's not the fault of anyone on the left for being weak

on dealing with radical Islam, you know. And in fact, they'll often say that the reason for radical Islamic terrorism is because of the insufficiently what's the word, the the insufficient desire to cave in and do what Islamists want, or the inability or the unwillingness of European countries to better assimilate their European I mean, there are Islamic minorities in Europe. That's that's always a part of that debate

as well. So I don't have much more to share view on this shooting, because, you know, the Prime Minister of New Zealand says that gun laws will change. New Zealand already has pretty strict gun laws. They don't have a full registration the way that the way that Australia does. Keep in mind that you won't read this in the news coverage of this at all, but Australia's buyback program is always listed as being so successful after a mass shooting in Australia. They did a buyback, a forced buyback,

which is confiscation with compensation. That's what that is. And yes, there was a decline in violence in Australia. But guess what. There are now more guns in circulation in Australia in private hands than there were before the buyback program and there is less violence. So someone would need to explain to me how the buyback program is the cause for this drop in violence when there are even more guns

now in private hands. Look, there's the emotions that people have after a mass shooting like this are such that they want to take action, especially people who believe that their political positions are an extension of their goodness or their worthiness as a person. And they also it fits in with a view of how we should relate to our states, how we should relate to our federal government, such that guns are a little private rebellion in the

hands of citizens. Every gun in the hands of a law abiding citizen is a private rebellion against the authority of the state. They know that, and people are uncomfortable with that. A lot of people do not like that. The left in this country has really made guns a dividing issue for culture as much as for the Second Amendment. The manifesto writer understood this. In fact, he wants this

to create. In his manifesto, he said he wanted this to create a Second Amendment battle in the United States that would further divide the country and would lead to inflict and civil war. Here, I mean the guy's a loon too. Let's remember that. I mean the guy's a loon. But there's now this big debate, this big discussion about gun control and what we can do next for gun control. And I'm sure Democrats will seize on this. And I'll tell you this as well, Nothing in this country I

think will change. It's just not going to Why also would anything, Why would our laws change in response to what happened in New Zealand. There are still calls for this from Democrats because it's such an emotional issue today and because people are obviously so psychologically wounded by this.

But what exactly are we supposed to do. We have different laws than New Zealand, we have a different gun situation, we have a different constitution than New Zealand, and yet we're still going to be told that there needs to be immediate action, and if you stand against it, if you think that action that will help no one and will infringe on rights is a bad idea, they're going to say you're a bad person. You're a bad person. That's where this is all going next. Because there are

a gun control efforts from the left. It's not just about the guns. It's about their contempt for the people who own guns. They don't like gun owners. It is a separation between right and left now in this country. If you own a gun, the overwhelminglihood is that you are more conservative and more likely to be conservative. That's just the way it is. I want to switch to the border just for a second here, because we got a whole bunch of other topics. We'll talk about Beto

klobishar more Democrat candidates out there in the mix. We'll have the latest on the cheating scandal with my friend Jesse Kelly. He'll join later on the show. Just we're gonna need to lighten things up a little bit, right It's it's obviously been an emotionally draining day in the news cycle, and I know it's Friday. We're gonna have Jesse join us. We'll have some fun. We'll do some roll calls, so things will definitely move in that direction

as we move along in the show. But I have to know this was a piece today in the Daily Mail that Trump's border agency. He says he has built zero new walls, despite claiming otherwise for months. As a president prepares to veto, lawmakers attempt well, he did ardie veto. So the veto happened. The presidential veto happened. But now you are starting to see US Customs and Border Protection just coming out and saying, look, people should know what's really going on here. And there is not new barrier

that is going up there. There's better barrier where there already is some kind of a physical structure to prevent illegal crossings. But there is not, on a massive scale, a lot of new barrier construction that is happening. It's just not happening. And this is where a president Trump's salesmanship, I think can be a little bit of a little bit of a liability because he wants to say that it's happening, because he wants to keep people engaged, and

he wants to build the wall. And I think that he given him is given his druthers, he would follow through on that promise, but it hasn't happened yet, and I don't believe that we can be supportive of the presidents saying that it is happening when it is not. That's why when he tweeted out that wacky nut job and Coulter, who still hasn't figured out that despite all odds, an entire Democrat party of far left Democrats against me, including Republicans who are sadly unwilling to fight, I am

winning on the border. Major sections of wall are being built and renovated, with much more to follow shortly. Tens of thousands of illegals are being apprehended at the border, and it's just like responding, Okay, tell me where this new border fence is. Give me the latitude and longitude. Tell me exactly where the new border fence is. I gotta tell you on this one. Miss Coulter raises a very important point, and we need the President to stay

focused on this and follow through. We also have a whole lot more show coming up for your team in just a moment, so stay with me. Today's votes cap a week of something the American people haven't seen enough of in the past two years. Both parties in the United States Congress standing up to Donald Trump. In two days, Congress has delivered three three major rebukes to the president and stood up for transparency, accountability, and the constitutional powers.

I'm sorry, my stomach just turns a little bit when you've got Chuck Schumer talking about transparency, the separation of powers, as if he cares about any of that stuff. This is what the Republicans that voted against Trump and with the Democrats on this resolution, this is what they've done. They've given the Democrats a victory lap opportunity here and

for what it's certainly not smart. It's certainly not smart from the perspective of enacting the Trumpet agenda, and it gives Chuck Schumer this moment where he gets to point out the divisions on the Republican side. Look, Trump's already he's vetoed this thing, so it doesn't doesn't go anywhere,

It doesn't mean anything, doesn't do anything. But I find it just beyond beyond irritating when you have someone like Chuck Schumer who gets to have some fun at the expense of the fractured Republican Party, because you've got some Republicans that their first concern, really and truly is how they how they appear, not just to their constituents, but

to the media. I think you get a lot of Republicans that don't really don't really care as much about what this means for them back home in the short term as they do about what the what the mainstream will say about them. And then that brings me to this, and this is courtesy of our friend Sean Davis over

at the Federalist that Bill priests tap. The top FBI counterintelligence official told a federal court last August in a sworn declaration that John McCain passed the Steel Dossier to James Comey on December nine, twenty sixteen, and that the FBI briefed Obama on it even though the FBI had

not verified its claims. The Steel Dossier was an orchestrated media opposition operation, Sean writes from the beginning, and that everything done by Clapper and Comy was done to provide media in an excuse to publish defamatory claims to damage Trump.

I think that that is all correct. It is absolutely insane that James Comey took it upon himself in an intelligence briefing to present an unclassified, unsourced, unverified document to the President United States saying that he had Russian prostitutes engaging in all kinds of reprehensible behavior with him, you know, I mean, you know, gross things that was only done to create the perception that this is real. But I

also have to wonder. I know that some people get very touchy about this, but John McCain, Why did John McCain pass the Steel dossier to James Coomey in December of twenty sixteen after the election. What is John McKinnon. Did he really think that it was real? Did he did he think that that was something that should be should be done? I mean, why would he share opposition research on the President United States with the FBI director

at the time? And why haven't we heard more about what Obama knew about all of this, which he definitely did. And you they always keep Obama out of this situation. They always pretend that Obama had, you know, no knowledge, didn't order anybody to do anything. And I didn't didn't know a thing about this old dossier. And I'm telling you, the behind the scenes here with these Democrats was unseemly.

Doesn't even begin to cover it. But I also stopped and thought to myself, McCain at so many different points was willing to abandon his side at a at a key moment to help the Democrats and the aftermath of the election defeat of Hillary Clinton by a Republican nominee, that McCain would pass this to KOMEI Why didn't McCain. Let's really ask this, If McCain had to steal dossier, why didn't he call for a private meeting with the President United States himself? Man? Demand wouldn't that have been

the honorable thing to do? It was already out there in circulation. There's not some sources and methods concern, there's no I mean, it's the presid the United States. He can see anything. But this is an unclassified document that's circulating among the media and circulating among the media as part of a plan by the Democrat operatives that created this whole thing to defame and destroy the President United States. Why wouldn't McCain say, mister President, I need to talk

to you about something and sit down with him. Because if he believed this was real, why wouldn't John McCain do that? Why give it to James Comey? And be a part of this scheme, this scheme to nullify the election defeat of Hillary Clinton by President Trump. Why everyone I know in politics feels very they're very passionate feelings about John McCain. I know people that all they ever want to talk about is his honorable military service in Vietnam,

and you know, nobody questions that, nobody disputes that. I also know a lot of people who feel like his legacy is one of turning on Republicans at key moments and not being somebody that has owned I could count on. And also you want to talk about people that surrounded themselves with bad individuals from it during the campaign. I've heard his campaign was it was an absolute mess, and

people have told me he was also. I won't I won't get further into it beyond that, but McCain sure enough shows up in this circumstance as someone who was part of this whole artifice, this whole scheme to create a Russia collusion narrative where there wasn't one. This was all just made up whole cloth. There was nothing, There

was nothing there. They they made this like a fairy tale, and then they weaponized the intelligence community and the collection platforms that it has all because they were so so upset that Hillary Clinton wasn't going to be the president of the United States. This is the biggest scandal of my lifetime. And nothing you know, Monica and and you know,

you name it. I mean, there's there's no scandal that I have lived through an American politics that comes anywhere near what's going on here, and that the people who are at the heart of it not only won't be punished but are going to be celebrated as some kind of heroes when what they did has torn at the very as the very fabric of this country as a place that has rule of law that isn't based in politics, that isn't based in what political party you happen to

be a part of. It has undermined that in profound ways. And there will be no accountability for the men that did this, and Trump and his presidency. Who knows what would have been different if he hadn't had to carry around this burden. Who knows what would have happened if he had not been in a situation where he had the Special Counsel harassing him, haranguing him and the people

around him. The Legal Bill the anxiety, the lost sleep, the prospect of all of this just destroying whatever feelings of goodwill he could ever have from the other side, or that the other side could have about him, and McCain was involved in it. I think that I think that people will look back on a lot of what John McCain did as a politician with far greater criticism than we have been allowed up to this point, when we have a bit of distance and honesty. Our two

is coming up. Whether you like Donald Trump or you dislike Donald Trump, the one thing that I think we can all agree on is that Donald Trump has made American journalism great again. The other thing we can agree on is that the media is not the enemy of the people. At CNN, our core mission is to tell the truth, to hold those in power accountable, even when it's uncomfortable, especially when it's uncomfortable. Last November, we made the most uncomfortable and the easiest decision of my career.

We sued the President of the United States for taking away the press cidential of our chief White House correspondent, Jim Accosta, all because he didn't like the questions that Jim was asking him. We didn't pick that fight We didn't want that fight, but the decision to fight for our right was easy. That's CNN chief Jeff Zucker, in a moment of preening and delusion, or a few moments of it, talking about how Trump has made journalism great again.

I think that's quite the opposite. I think Trump has exposed American journalism for the shallow cast of nasty, want to be cool high school kids at all just want to sit at the same table. Because I think that's what it really is. And I think that they have not learned any lessons. They do not care that the general public doesn't believe them, does not trust them, does not think that they engage in their profession honestly, and the public should not think that they engage in their

profession honestly because they don't. They are activists pretending to be journalists. And then CNN's Zucker complains a bit more about this seven. The President has treated our CNN journalists with disrespect on more than one occasion. The name calling and the insults are sadly something that has become the norm when covering him. We don't like it, and it is wrong. What we do has never been more important. This administration need not like what we say, but they

should respect our right to say it. The President has treated our CNN journalists with disrespect on more than one occasion. The name calling and the insults are sadly, yeah, we get it, we get it. So we heard, we heard that. So is he just is he just completely delusional? Because CNN journalists have been not just disrespectful to this president. CNN journalists have been at the heart of the effort

to destroy this president. CNN journalists were the ones involved in the early days of leaking the meeting between come and Trump about the dossier that Big Bag oh Lies known as the Dossier. They were hoping to turn it into a news story and they have been running with it ever since. SNI has had to fire journalists for fabricating news stories about Trump and the people around him,

doesn't seem to phase them one bit. I guess how many news how many journalists has seen have to fire for a hit piece on Obama, This pretense that Zucker there. We try to hold people to account, Well, they'll hold Republicans to account. They'll do more than that. They'll do everything in their power to destroy a Republican. They will

try to ruin a presidency. They drunk with power and their own self righteousness, are willing to lie, are to stack the deck against a president, whether it's in a debate or just in their day to day news coverage. They will take an activist role in this whole situation. And then there's this latest addition to the many, many complaints of journalism about Trump, that he puts lives at

risk placlip eight. This administration has made it abundantly clear that they do not have respect for or tolerance of a free and independent press. They call us the enemy of the people. They limit our access, They selectively grant interviews, most often the outlets that have assured them that they will follow the script. Quite literally, they put our lives at risk with their words and their actions. That's just insane.

They're not putting CNN journalists lives at risk anymore so than journalists who are spreading lies about Trump and his supporters are putting lives at risk when they are saying the president's a trader, guilty of treason, which they have done. They've asked this question. They they've gone on TV and said is the president a trader? Well, wouldn't that mean that if you voted for him, you've supported a trader.

What if you still support that trader. They take no responsibility for the toxic politicization that they have engaged in and the political advocacy that they've done under the falsehood that this is journalism. They take no responsibility for this whatsoever. I mean, that's the head of CNN. He's one of the most powerful people in the news business in the world. And you know, do you get the sense are we supposed to believe that CNN is fair to the president.

The head of CNN is out there trashing the president on a regular basis. Trash is Fox News as well. And let me tell you, in a state run media environment, you don't have one outlet that is favorable to you know, favorable to the regime in power, and then a hundred that are just trying to destroy the regime in power all the time. That's not all. That's not an authoritarian

regime situation. No. What's much It's a much greater threat to your liberty is when you have a united front of support for the regime from all of the different media outlets that will cover up the abuses, that won't dig deep that don't want accountability. That's a far greater threat to liberty and freedom than one media outlet that

gives voice to half the country essentially. I mean, I do believe I wish that there were there was another channel like Fox out there, just so that we'd have more bandwidth, so that there'd be more shows, there'd be more of a conservative voice and even more diverse Republican and conservative position in this country. You know, maybe maybe a little more libertarian flavor in some of there too. You know that I think that would be great, But

we don't have that. But we have is a vast media conglomerate that all works together, that's really just a wing of the DNC and is doing everything it can to destroy a presidency. And I know some of these people, so I know that they want Donald Trump's children to go to prison. They want people like Manafort to die in prison for tax fraud. They think that's a good thing.

I mean, what happened. And you know, we've actually actually got a Democrat, a Democrat former federal prosecutor come on Rising today and he was willing to admit and I give him credit for this, that what the Cyrus Evans in New York State did by adding the Manhattan District Attorney's office by adding charges when they're already two guilty either verdicts or please from men Afford and two other federal trials for a seven year old man is just

the most blatant politics imaginable. And what you know now from the Manhattan District Attorney's Office is that if you're a high profile Republican, you're not going to get a fair shake. If you get you can't. Look what happened to Gennesta SUSA. That was Preet Barrara. Oh where did Preet Barra, the US Attorney for the Southern District of New York. What did he do as soon as Trump got rid of him? Oh he went to work at CNN and to start a podcast. That's right, he's a

left wing media guy. Well, he used to be able to determine how many decades you go to prison for for white collar crime. That was his job. And Preet was a big fan of purp walks for white collar criminals, people who were not in any way a physical danger to anyone. Berrara really wanted to parade them around. Why because it made him look tough on white collar crime, and that's what he really cared about. That's what really

got him excited. These people have no appreciation for how much damage they're doing to the good faith that a lot of us would like to have in these different institutions and these mechanisms of government, and yes, in the media, I would think it was a fantastic thing if we had an honest news media. I mean, I can tell you that even well, I was going to tell you some stories about some of the stuff I deal with the media, but I don't have to hold on some

of that. But the assumption, the assumption is that when you're in a newsroom, you're dealing most unless you're at Fox or maybe the Wall Street Journal a few other places, but when you're in your typical newsroom, most of the people in there are woke left wingers, and so they don't just disagree with your point of view, but have

this professional approach what they're doing. They think that they are on a mission, a mission from the depths of their own self righteousness to destroy people who are on the other side, including people who work with them, who are colleagues of theirs, who are good people and who are just trying to do their job. You know, you cannot trust libs in the media. Unfortunately, I wish you

know some of them. You get to know well enough you can maybe trust, But in general it's a very unwise thing to do because they're zealots, they're true believers, and they control that they control the narrative, they have the most outlets, and then they get Zucker to get up there and wind for them, talk about how their lives are at risk and Trump is so terrible and how could he do all these bad things? And Jim accost some kind of American here, and now you've got

to be kidding me, right, this is a joke. Unfortunately it's not a joke. This is how the mainstream media, all these pampered millionaires, this is how they see themselves. There's a legal sentence, and there's a sentence of shame. Anytime he walks into a green room, which we have here at CNN for the next twenty years, when every he gets out, he cannot look at a single member of the press, court, a single politician without shame. He can't walk out of a room again to regardless of

whether he gets out of a jail, without shame. People in this town are going to dishonor him. So that's one of the favorite national security analysts over at CNN, Phil Mud talking about Maniford, and notice the real sense of sanctimony but also vindictiveness, talking about how Maniport will feel shame. He's gonna feel shame. Can't go into a green room with that. And this is the greatest fear for people that really like your CNN is you're not

going to be welcome in the CNN green room. Oh oh, that's really that's a scary universe to live in, right, you can't have that. Paul Metaphord's going to prison for seven and a half years. He's a seventy year old man. He's going to serve that seven and a half There's now the possibility of additional state charges hanging over his head. They're doing that just so that the president can't pardon him. So that's an end run on the president's pardon power.

It is explicitly and obviously political. It's disgraceful. What exactly did Manaphort do that makes feel Mud so angry at him? What? What? What is Manaford's great crime? Not paying his taxes? I mean, he's making twenty five million dollars of restoration payments to the government. Okay, so he's paying the taxes and then some I think that in most tax cases that should

be I that should really be sufficient. I mean, if you can make the government whole and you can pay massive fines on top of it, maybe a six months and it's just as kind of a you know, don't be naughty. But seven and a half years they hate manap it because he worked for the president. He has become a scapegoat for all the rage they have and at also, I think all the intellectual insecurity that they try to suppress about Russia collusion that never happened, it

didn't exist. But Manaford is now a convicted felon facing almost a decade in prison. So he's the one to direct all of their anger to. You know who else should be a convicted felon and in prison, or at least should have faced the possibility of being a convicted felon in prison. Hillary Clinton, I've not forgotten this. Why should we accept different standards of justice for the right and the left. Why should we accept that Democrats get

away with everything Republicans don't. Just it's not just that they don't get away with anything. They're destroyed for nothing. I don't think we should. I don't think that should be acceptable to anyone. Lindsey Graham brought up the possibility of maybe taking some action on this when it comes to Hillary Clinton. Play clip one. Any American out there who did what Secretary Clinton did good be in jail now. The question I want to know is, does anybody other

than me believe that. I don't ask you to believe me. We let Muller look at all things Trump related to collusion, and otherwise somebody needs to look at what happened on the other side and find out if the FBI in the DOJ had two systems, one supporting the person they wanted to win, a one out to get the person they wanted to lose. Some of these people have been fired for lying, and it's now time to have a special counsel looking all things twenty sixteen, not just Trump.

How about some accountability for the other side. I can already tell you that the plan is to let, for example, McCabe, who was acting FBI director, who is clearly a Hillary partisan and a bad guy, let him just fade off into the sunset and not bring any charges against him he lied under oath. I thought lying under oath was a heinous crime. I thought you should never lie under oath because you're going to go to prison for it. But not if you're somebody that was playing for the

right team. This has gotten to the point where it is not just too obvious to ignore, but I think it's too dangerous for us to ignore. I think that the willingness of the Democratic Party he used a legal system as a weapon against their political allies, has to be met with a commensurate response. And yeah, that might

mean a special counsel on Hillary Clinton. Why not. We've just found out this past week, based on the LEASA page closed door testimony, that the decision was made very high up in Lauretta Lynch's DJ that they were never ever going to bring charges against Hillary Clinton, didn't matter what they found in the investigation. The investigation was all for show. It was a sham. We just found that out.

So since that now is a matter of record, that now as a function of testimony from somebody who was under oath, and who would know, what else can we find out. I'm hoping that President Trump is holding back for example, the declassified FISA application or the declassification of the FISA application on Carter Page and more of the

Russia Investigation origin documents. I hope that he's hanging back on that in case they try to pull some nonsense with the Muller probe, in case they decide that they're going to, even though they don't have any charges against him, they're going to take some kind of action men to undermine his presidency, make him seem like he's a bad guy, because what he should do in that case is unleash what he knows, what he has access to as a

commander reprief about what happened there. And I really do believe that it would be a jaw dropping moment if we found out how much these guys in the most sensitive positions in law enforcement in our government. I think it will be a jaw dropping for us to find out just how much they were abusing their power and

going after Trump. I really do. I think that this is one of those moments that it will be hard for us to take in at first, so because it'll be so overwhelming and so obvious, and it'll be hard to believe even when we have the evidence that we know we should believe it. I want Trump to release that information. I want Trump to put it out there, but he may be he may be holding back on

it until he needs it. You know, it's essentially the bazooka he's keeping the media bazooka that he's keeping in his pocket in the case that he might need something to talk about. So, you know, I want to discuss presidents with you coming up here in presidential candidates, because you've got some very how should we say it, I've got some real losers on the Democrats side, they're already in the mix, and I just start to think more and more about how I think that people don't even

really know what they wanted a president anymore. I think the rules have changed about what's acceptable for a president, and what certainly the Democrats and the Left desires in a president is now kind of fuzzier than it's ever been. They kind of just want an emotion, not a person. Her campaign was shaken up in the early days by multiple reports, negative reports of how you've treated some of

your staff in the past. Your answer to that, which you've given many times many people have asked about this, you said, look, I can be too hard. What's too hard? Well to me, If you are a boss, you have to have high standards, and that is what I have always had. And that doesn't mean it's a popularity contest all the time. And so I've had high standards for myself, high standards for our staff, and mostly I'm going to

have high standards for the country. But one can always do better, and that means you want to be sure that you are listening to people if you know they felt that something was unfair or they felt bad about something. But I still think that you have to demand good product when you're out there on the world stage and dealing with people like Vladimir Putin. Yeah, you want someone who's tough. You want someone that demands the answers and

that's going to get things done. Yeah, that's that's Klobischer running for president there. And I wanted to really get to the end because you know, you got you gotta have her hear it, her say it. You got to hear it from her. Uh, that's right, She's gonna take care of Putin. Maybe she'll throw a hairbrush at Putin. Yeah, maybe she'll make Putin eat salad with a with a hairy comb and then make him clean it off in front of her. It's so gross. It is so gross.

Amy klobashchar famously famously abusive to her staff, nasty, nasty person when it comes to what I was working for, And I always think it's it's so it's so cute when people after they've been accused by a lot of their former staff of being really terrible to work for, and then they'll get some group to come forward that is all looking to advance themselves most like, I'm sure some of them probably think that she's actually nice. You know. Usually a mean boss isn't mean to everybody. It's very

rare and that's why. And usually mean people aren't mean to everybody. So it's really the absence of mistreating any employee, I'm sorry, the presence of treating mistreating any employees is all you have to find. Because if you're mistreating any employees,

then you're a bad employer. You're always going to be able to find usually some people who feel like you weren't that bad, you know, And this is kind of a version of you know, even even Hitler loved his dog, right, I mean, people always everyone has some kind of level I think that's a Bill Mark quote, by the way, But you know, as people have some level of humanity and kindness, even the very very worst people. So just because somebody isn't terrible that everybody doesn't mean they're not

a terrible boss. But I was thinking about this a little bit today because with klobaschar on this huge group of all the different candidates out there, and Bajo, who just like I just want the whole country to hold hands, close their eyes and feel the power of the power from within where your power center is. Uh, you know, with all this stuff that's going on, I think it's fair to ask, what do we really wanted a president? You know? I used to say that what we want?

And look, I'm going to support Trump for reelection obviously, so it's not it's not that important to think about this in the immediate term on the Republican side, But I do think that it shifted someone. I think that our perception of what a great commander in chief would be is very different these days from what it would have been when I was at least a young kid, you know, in the era of Reagan. I feel like, now you want somebody who is a fighter on social media.

You want somebody who is very much I you know, I don't know what the Democrats really want, and I think the Democrats don't really know what they want. They want they want a set up policies. But is character even important any more? Does character matter? How can we as a country, given recent presidential choices, how can we say that we think that character is an important presidential trait?

I mean, the Clinton machine was premised on the eradication of character as something that is necessary for anyone to run for for public office. That just I think it's interesting we've changed on this without really stopping to think about how much we've changed and how, you know, and what we've changed. And that's just that's what I get

from the klobaschar fiasco. Where Why does she think because she's a Midwestern senator and maybe she'll be able to bring this is just a profile raising exercise for her. I mean, I'm not going to say it's to sell more books, because I don't think she has. Actually everybody these days has a book. You know what also bothers me. You know, I'm in a mood as a Friday of

a letter rip. Why is everyone okay with other people writing books under their name, and why do I You know, there are a few areas where I'm an odd duck and I know it, and I get shouted down by people, even people I like in respect a lot. They think that I'm totally crazy. But you know, these these politicians, they have these books that they put out and this has become commonplace. The politicians put out of a book. And I'm not saying none of them write them, but

I think almost none of them really write them. Maybe some of them consult and they work with the ghostwriter. Why isn't that plagiarism? You know? This is where you know and you see. This is on the issue of plagiarism and books. On getting rid of recruiting. Remember, I'm fine with college athletics recruiting as long as you're not

going to change the academic standards for the admission. So if you can find a straight A student who's also you know, a world class defensive lineman, great, you know, take them for your school. I'm not saying you can't try to find I'm just saying the system as it works right now, where you can override the overall academic system in order to get a certain kind of athlete. I think that that's crazy. I think that, you know, there are some other areas where I'm I'm alone, John,

what was I talking about just second ago? I just lost my own train of thought on that one where what was I saying I'm crazy? On anyway, there's there's a lot of oh, writing books, writing books that that it's okay if you pay someone else to write a book under your name, that's somehow that's not a not a big deal. I don't know why we think that this is a normal thing to do. If I kept publishing editorials under my name that I paid someone else to write for me, wouldn't people think that I was

not a very good writer. And that's a strange thing, a strange thing to do. And this is where we get into the conversation also about what's going on with this school system, that school school system scamming, the emission scams, where I take the point of view that there's a lot of very shady reasons that people get into school. There's a lot of ways that people gain the system. So why are we so outraged right now that this

particular system, which is more brazen than others. I admit that but that this particular system existed in the way that it did. I just I would note this is all. This is all where people break from me and say, oh, Buck, you just don't really understand what's going on. You don't understand what's going on. But I think I do understand. I think I know what's up. I think I know what time it is. What kind of president do you want, Well, maybe you want a president who just like connects and

you know, was in a punk rock band. But also it was like the hunky o pair on the Upper West Side that everybody wanted to hang out with. Yeah, he was an opair of the true story. He was an opair on the Upper West Side of New York City. So Becho and Betto and I were in New York at the same time. But speaking of Betcho and what you want for a pres if you're a Democrat, what we want is for Trump to win another term. Although I would like to have a little more focus from

the Trumpster on enacting the agenda. I think the Trumpster lacks a little bit of focus. I know he's got a lot of the Russia collusion thing drags around him, and there's a lot of stuff I know I'm not trying to be unfair to the man, but the agenda is not nearly as as enacted as I would like to be at this point. But this was interesting. This was from a Reuter's profile today on Peto quote. Arguably, there has been no better time to be an American

politician rebelling against business as usual. There is no indication that O'Rourke himself ever engaged in the edgiest sorts of hacking activity. He was a hacker, breaking into computers or writing code that enabled others to do so. Still, it's unclear whether the United States is ready for a presidential contender who, as a teenager, still long distance phone service for his dial up modem wrote a murder fantasy in which the narrator drives over children on the street and

mused about a society without money. You know, I've I'm in a weird spot here with some of this stuff, folks, because I've been saying, you know, you can't hold against people stuff that they said ten years ago, and and I agree. And I'm not saying Bettos should be fired from a job or that he should be kicked out of the public square for this stuff, but murder fantasy where the narrators running over children on the street. That's a weird that's a weird move. They the long distance

cell phone service thing, that's nothing. I mean, everybody who's my age, You guys all remember Napster and what was the LimeWire which everyone was just downloading all kinds of stuff, including a lot of naughty stuff, a lot of I was he was astonished at how much how much porn was on the shared Amherst College server. And I of course never watched any of it, but there was all this port on the server, and I guess they just

didn't know how to like get it all out. But people would would upload stuff to the to the college server that was portgred. This is a lot. This is earlier in the early days of the Internet, and there was all kinds of stuff on there, you know, some really really funky, funky stuff. So anyway, children on the street getting run over sidey without money. I think betto is kind of a weirdo. But a weirdo is no

longer a problem when you're running for president. In fact, we've really changed the nature of what opo research can be at this point. I mean, unless you have and Bettos duy. People are going to point to that when he ran across the median and ran into another car, unless you killed somebody and something like that, which he did not. He did not severely injure anybody, including himself. But unless you're talking about a situation like that, just

just doesn't move the doesn't move the needle. It's not going to prevent him from running, it's not going to prevent him from from possibly winning. So we have we have very much changed. You know that that that Amy clovischar could be known as a serial abuser of staff and to make people clean off the comb that she ate a salad with, which is still just the grossest thing.

You know. It's I don't know what it is about using a comb to eat your salad, you know, but you know, you find a spoon or a fork, for heaven's sakes, it just strikes me so gross. But betto being a weirdo who was a hacker and wrote murder fantasies that where people are running over children, none of that's going to even that's not even gonna register. Folks. We are in a brave new world where we're weird

and crazy seems kind of an asset. I'm Don blank chef candidate for US Senate, and I approved us message. Politicians are running a lot of crazy ads. They blew up the coal mine and then put me in prison. Now they're running the ads to say the coal mine blew up and I went to prison. There's no surprise there. But if you want jobs, if you want to end the drug epidemic, and you want to protect you unborn, you need to vote for me. One of my goals as US senator who will be to ditch cocaine Mitch.

When you vote for me, you're voting for the sake of the kids. So that's Don Blankinship, and that's where the whole cocaine Mitch joke comes from. Right. So when people some have asked me, Buck, why do you called cocaine Mitch? And why are there all these memes about cocaine Mitch, because it comes from this ridiculous ad from now failed Republican Senate candidate Don Blankinship. So one this gives us an opportunity to play that ad, so you can hear it again because it's kind of fun. Coquerine

Mitch gotter rout of Coquine Mitch. And then there's also a news reason for this, which is that Don Blanketship has sued not a twelve million dollar defamation lawsuit against the biggest media outlets in the country. Don Blanketship has filed a twelve billion dollar eleventy billion dollars, a twelve

billion dollars defamation lawsuit against major media outlets. Now they say it's or he says it's because dozens of news outlets and media personalities referred to him as a felon back in twenty eighteen when he was running in the West Virginia primary. Now Blanketship was the was the CEO formerly of Massey Energy, and he did have a little stint where he went to prison for a while, but

he was acquitted of all felony charges. Turns out, so look, I don't think he's kint a twelve billion dollar case, but I wonder if he won't get entirely laughed at a cored all the merits based on that he's if he's not technically a felon and they're all calling him a felon's that is the kind of thing that is actionable sometimes in a in a defamation case for what I understand. I mean, defamation is usually very hard to prove, especially if you're a public figure and you're running for office.

And remember, you don't really prove it. You just kind of have to convince a jury. And it's a civil issue, but defamation can be very hard. The cocaine Mitch thing is because Mitch McConnell and Transportation Secretary Elaine Chow, who I'm just this is what blanketship. Blanketship referred to are as quote, a wealthy China person. That's what he said, and he referred to China people on in his ads.

I mean, this guy is really out there that they owned a shipping company that McConnell's wife or tied to a shipping company, and some in the shipping company I think there was a cocaine seizure, and so he was saying that Mitch is tied. It's just crazy, and that that a guy who would accuse the speaker of the I'm sorry, the Senate Majority leader of in any way being tied to drugs. There are some people in the Senate who I could see, maybe even decades ago, being

tied to drugs, probably not today. Mitch McConnell is not one of them. I think he's probably the most straight edge guy that you would find in the Senate. Well, Mike Lee is a little more straight edge, but Mitch McConnell's pretty straight edge. And I just think this whole thing's got a funny And now you know, if I refer to cocaine Mitch, I am not, in fact suggesting that he is the second coming of Pablo Escobar and has been part of some incredible plot to be the

most powerful Republican senator of his generation. No, no, no, it was all a joke, a joke from this guy blanket Ship who I'm sure. I'm sure some of you know a bit about a bit more than I do. But it's looking very unlikely that he will. I know this for sure. He's not going to get twelve billion dollars. I just wish I could see how they came up with that number. Not five billion, not ten billion, twelve billion dollars in a defamation lawsuit. Very very unlikely to

see that. And keep in mind that there's a there's a large two hundred and fifty million dollar defamation lawsuit by one of those students from Cummington High school. I don't know how much money he's actually going to get, but it's that's a lawsuit that they better take very seriously because I think he does have a case. I think he does have the ability to get damages from CNN. He's not a public person. They were reckless in their reporting, along with other places Washington Post. So he may be

a very rich young man, which would be great. Maybe he'll start a conservative free speech foundation with his millions and millions that he is definitely owed got. Jesse Kelly joining shortly Team stay with me special Friday treat for all of you listening. My friend that the tallest conservative man I've ever met, Jesse Kelly, is joining us now. He clocks in at at seven to six I think. But he's also a fantastic radio host and podcaster in his own right, host of the Jesse Kelly Show. He's

down on KPRC in Houston. That is his radio station. You can follow him on Twitter if you want to be highly amused. Mister Kelly, great to have you six foot eight. Buckets six foot eight, but it's seventh sick. Did you count the ego exactly? There you go. That's what I always say. I'm six feet tall, but you throw the hair in there on a good day. Six one son? What's up? So, so, Jesse, tell me, tell me a bit about your take on this, on this

college admission scandal that has rocked to the nation. You must, you must watch this with a much amusement. I do well. I mean, you know, I'm pretty pretty highly educated. I don't like to rub my education in everyone's space, but I have almost three years of accredited community college credits, So I mean, I don't. I don't. I don't want to make other people feel bad, but so I've got I've got some pels in the wall. Let's just say.

And I look at this and all I do is laugh like I don't find it scandalous, even buck, I'm sorry, I don't. I don't see what the big deal is. Rich people pay money to get their kids access to things that poor people don't get access to. That's called the history of the world. Yeah, yeah, I get it was a scam and this kid didn't get in or that kid didn't get in. The how does this anymore scandalous than Harvard not letting Asian kids in? And it's

the same thing. That's what universities do they screw some deserving kids over in the favor of the undeserving, and they do it for nefarious reasons. That's the college university system. I thought it was pretty amazing. When I'm with you, I can't get nearly is. I find it more kind

of amusing and and telling that anything else. I mean this is I also have been saying on radio this is not the only one of these scams in college that there's no way that this is the only one of these there's this has been an underground industry for I'd say the last at least the last ten, maybe the last twenty years that nobody's really thought much about.

So I'm sure there's more of this. But when I've I've said to people, you know, do we really want federal criminal charges against somebody for giving a check to the uh, you know, the men's swim team coach or something, or the track and field coach. And people act like I'm I'm defending a mass murderer. That they really get mad at me. How dare you the deserving spots? I'm like, the deserving spots they go to idiot kids whose parents

donate buildings. They go to minorities that are a standard deviation in terms of their SATs and grades below the average for the class they go to. Uh, you know, they go to people for all kinds of reasons, and the whole athletic recruit thing, I would say is subject anyway. So you know, I think it's kind of people freaking out about nothing, but they thinking I'm the crazy person. Yeah, that's because people adhere to the old waves and they don't realize that the just how much awful things go

on behind closed doors when it comes to universities. And you know what's funny you brought it up about how this isn't the only one. I guarantee you one, there are lots of people out there sweating bullets right now because they have done and or are doing the exact same thing. I mean, they didn't get busted, they didn't get swept up, and this is one. They were in different universities to doing different things that just they're just

waiting for the shoe to drop. This is what happens. Man, Kids who don't rate get into great colleges because he can swing a baseball bat or throw great passes. That this is This is the university system and on top of that, we need to have a completely new discussion about the university system at all the United States. Why does every kids feel like he has to go to college. There are a bunch of kami trade in camps at this point in time. I'm not going to push my

kids for college. If you have something specific you want to go for, fine, But we have all these kids graduating in four years with one hundred thousand dollars and the students loaned it, and they're bigger morons than they

were going in with middle life skills. There's actually a piece from Heather McDonald of the Manhattan Institute that I read today where they gave and this was at elite schools, they gave students a basic American history test when they entered as freshman, and then gave them the same the same test when they left as seniors. They did better as entering freshman. So essentially, all the drinking and all the wheat smoking for four years did not in fact

make them smarter. Of course, you know, I went to college for one year when I got out of high school, like a real college, not the community college version, and I got a zero point zero grade point average. My first semester, I drank and partied like you would not believe. I was easily way more dumb when I left them when I got there. I did not get any knowledge about the real world until the Marine Corps, until she

started reading books and things like that. There is an endless world out there of knowledge that you can get where you don't have to spend twenty five thousand dollars a year to get. I think you raise a very interesting point, which I know doesn't surprise you, Jesse, because you probably recognize all of your points is very interesting.

But we are at a time when you have greater access and easier access to information, to self teaching, to learning about things on your own that at any point in human history, it's not even close, right, And there's no question if you want to nerd out sometime and I don't know if Jesse would ever do this, guys, but those are you listening. If you want to nerd out, you can watch. There are whole lectures by revered Yale professors online that you can watch. I mean, there's whole

courses that they put up for free. You can want this stuff and can learn. You can see all the stuff that they're doing. This is all free, and yet while that's going on, the price of four year college tuition goes up and up and up. I think that these places are operating kind of like quasi government backed cartels, and there's just so many bloated administrators, and you've got a lot of professors that are teaching two hours a week. I mean, I think there's a scam on that side

of it that nobody ever focuses on. Well, yeah, and you're right about the wealth of knowledge at your fingertips. I mean, I've got two sons. They're eight and ten and a million times a day. Now, you know, they'll want to know about this or that. Shockingly I know is it may be to your listeners, I'm not all knowing and we don't know. We stop. Okay, let's stop, go to the computer, let's google it, let's watch YouTube video,

let's figure it out. There's no question you have that is not a quick Google search away from finding the answer to and endless amounts of reading material. The knowledge is out there. You don't have to pay and go do it, and I'll tell you something else. We're going to see a flip to this system. One of these days. Soon, the corporations, the businesses in this country are going to figure out quickly. You don't have to wait for a

kid to be twenty two. Talent is talent. Go snatch up a high school graduate, beg him sign a contract that he's going to stay for so many years, and give him me on the job training he needs right in your place, and skip the whole university racket. I don't think that four year college degrees are are worth as much in actual skills as our society pretends that they are. I just think that they are a credentialing system, and when they're trying to sort people out from each other,

they they set this bar up. But I also would note that the bar because so many more people are going to four year undergraduate schools, and now the bar keeps getting higher, and now you got people that are supposed to get advanced degrees, master's degrees, all this you know, MBA's jds, all this other stuff. So I think it's

kind of out of control. But Jesse, I need to I need to ask you, because you are a Texan and not far from ground zero of Beto Mania, what is your take on the men, the myth, the emo songwriter Beto roork Let me let me preface this by saying I can't stand him. I cannot stand in his voice. I don't like watching him speak. I don't like anything about Bedo O Roorke. So everybody stayed your hate man.

Bedo Rourke is a phenomenal candidate, an absolute superstar, and somebody that Republicans should fear a lot more than they do. He is the next Obama. You can laugh at these morons doing their Beeto songs and things like that. Have you seen any Elizabeth Warren's song or Kamala Harris songs. That's the exact kind of idiocy that Obama could inspire him. People. He came within three points of beating Ted Cruz in a year where Greg Abbott beat hit opponent by double

digit The guy is a tireless worker. He's gonna have Obama behind him. He's got national name. I d can raise money, his family has money. He's not gonna beat Trump. If the economy stays this way, nobody can. But you watch out for this guy. He is going to be trouble for us in the future. Wow, you think he can make it all the way through? Oh? I think he's In fact, I've been telling him as the Democrat nominee for six seven eight months. He was about a month into his Senate run and I was the first

one to call it. He came out hard anti gun in Texas, which means you're not really running to win in Texas. You can't do that. But I knew right then he was running for president. And I'm telling you he is going to be a contender. He's going to be the nominee. Huh, Jesse Kelly Man dropping a marker here on this one. I'm messing around, really saying that. Bettos.

I said this yesterday. And you know, we had our mutual friend Rahim Kassamon, and he takes your your a version of your point of view, at least where he agrees that he's While he's goofy, he is formidable. And you know, in the era of AOC, another politician that I know you must have some thoughts on in the era of AOC being a goofy, Ignoramus seems to be an asset. Yeah. Look, he understands very much the two thousand nineteen Democrat voter. He does on his website, he

did his campaign, launched, launched his website. He has merchandise for sale and not a single policy position. The man knows exactly what he's doing. It's brilliant. It's brilliant, and he is able to for whatever reason, just because you can't see it and I can't see it, for whatever reason, he is able to inspire some kind of loyalty and enthusiasm and people that makes them want to lay down in traffic for him. That's the same stuff Obama used

to do. You remember we used to make fun of all those idiots that would go to Obama's speeches and they'd pass out because they were so excited and all that stuff. That's Beto Aurora, I'm telling you fear this guy. Yeah, and the left wing mind these days really does. That is what they want. They don't want someone to come in who's a technocrat who has sound policies and ideas, even if I don't like them, at least they're sensible.

I mean, they don't want someone like Howard Schultz who's gonna say, you know, we can't actually at tax millionaires at ninety percent and expect us to have any kind of product productive economy. They don't want him. They want somebody they can pass out at rallies and that they can think is some kind of a messiah. So, Jesse, I think I think your analysis this one to sound before we let you get back to all things Texas. Kamala Harris, by the way, is it Camela or Kamala?

Because I hear it both ways, and I feel like since you're so close with her, you would know. Well, obviously, as everybody knows, we're super tired. I mean, I'm sure she has a crush on me too. I mean we're just not talking about it. I call her Kamala or kay, you know for short, But I mean everyone else can call her what holla, what they want. That's just her and I and our kinship. How's her? How's her campaign coming along? You think? I just I think she's too

boring to win. Well, she's clearly the media darling though it was the thing, or at least she was before Beto got in. I think he's gonna take that from her and that was going to carry her far. You saw them swooning over a buck. They're going shopping with her. We had Medium members bragging about helping Samala Harris pick out a new jacket to buy. So that alone is going to get her a long away look. She does. I joke around a lot because she does have the look.

She speaks really well, because of her background, she's she has a lot of things the other candidates don't. I mean, Elizabeth warrens a terrible candidate. Coloba shar is a terrible The Democrats have some really bad candidates. I actually think Kamala is a very good one. And head Beto not gotten in out of said she's going to be the nominee. But we'll see you now what happens when Kamala asked you to be a part of her campaign? Jesse, will you will you for your fondness of Kamala? Will you

will you sell out your country? Absolutely in a heartbeat, I mean the heart ones with the heart once book. I can't. I can't do anything about that. He's an honest man, folks. Jesse Kelly the one and only KPRC down in Houston. Listened to him on radio there. You can follow him on the Twitter look for the Jesse Kelly Show. Jesse, my friend, great to have you have a fantastic weekend. Be good brother. An interesting story today

to put in the free speech wars category. Guardians of the Galaxy director James Gunn was fired by Disney some months back because of offensive tweets that were unearthed of his that made light of pedophilia and rape from a decade old I think they were a decade old. So this is a guy who they did the whole tweet deep dive thing, and they were able to dig up some stuff that was bad enough on him that he

was then fired from his job. Well, it turns out that now after the interceding or intervening months, he is back on. They have rehired him, and he's also attached to the upcoming Suicide Squad sequel for Warner Brothers, and after that, Guardians the Galaxy three will commence. I thought Guardians of Galaxy one had some good stuff. It was a little a little too a little too noisy on screen for my taste. It just was a little too much stuff going on sometimes. But I thought there were

some good things in Guarding the Galaxy. I have a I do like Chris Pratt, and he's does a good job. I liked him in Parks and rerec I like him now as as a leading man. He does a good job. Suicide Squad was an unbelievably bad movie. Though Suicide Squad was a shock because how hard can it be to make a movie that, you know, how hard can it be to make a movie about that kind of superhero stuff that's at least watchable. I'm not saying it has to be Citizen Kane, but can it just not be

horrifyingly terrible? That is that really asking too much? Apparently, answers, Yes, it is. It is asking. It is asking too much to have a reasonable viewing experience with Suicide Squad. I mean, will Will Smith in it was terrible and anyway, it just was bad. Man, The whole thing was bad. Anyway, enough of my movie reviews on the free speech issue.

You know, now we're gonna start to see this happen, and I wonder how we should react to it because he's a leftist who has been reinstated by Disney, which is a liberal run company, I mean the executives at Disney or liberals. And he is a leftist and he is now reinstated in this and so does that mean that the old model of apology and contrition and then you can keep your job and you can move forward in your life. Is that coming back or is it only coming back for leftists? You know, there was such

a frenzy and it's worse. It's been worse in the last twelve months than it's ever been in my lifetime. A frenzy of find something bad that someone said and destroy them, destroy their livelihood, you know, destroy their reputation. There's been so much of it that I think that the left realized they were going to be in a in a mode of self consumption unless they tried to figure something else out. But they didn't want to give up the standard that they had put in place because

it's so useful for trying to crush conservatives. It's so useful for them to weaponize against their political opponents. Now we're seeing a high profile leftist get a second chance. I think that this will just be used to say, see the next conservative if they go after they'll say he wouldn't even apologize, and they'll hope that we take the bait and start apologizing again, because I still think

they'll Prince Jeoffrey Us. I think that if you're a conservative and you say I'm really sorry for what happened, unless I mean unless you are, I hate you know, I've got some never trumpers, some blue check never trumpers that come after me and say, you know, you think you should never apologize. Obviously, if you stepped out a line,

you know you should apologize. That guy, Congressman Gates, you know what he publicly tweeted about about Michael Cohen and his wife and how maybe his wife would cheat on him when he's in prison. I mean, that's just out a line. It's just not okay. And he apologized for and that's the right move. It wasn't the right move because the mob said he should apologize. It was the right move because it was a dirt bag thing to

tweet and he knew it, and he stepped back. I mean, he got a lot of heat and he stepped back. But you know that's that's when honor calls for an apology. When you should apologize for something, Not when you make a joke that is a little offensive or lands the wrong way. Not when you you know, made comments ten years ago that were politically incorrect. No, No No, that's that's just caving to the mob. We'll see if John, did you see Guardians the Galaxy too? Yeah? I didn't see

it either. I don't know. It's a little just look, look a little too noise at me. I came to there making Guardians of the Galaxy three, and the best thing in Guardians of the Galaxy was the little the little tree, you know, root or is it grout or root? I don't know, I guess it grout. Yeah, that was the best thing Guardians and Galaxy for me. I didn't like the raccoon as much as I wanted to. Whatever his name is. He found him. That Bradley Cooper who

does the voice for that too. It's such a weird what a weird call, you know, learns that the new every day. But we'll see where this goes in the free speech wars. The left will now start to take contrition from some on their own side. I wonder if I'll do it on the other side. Roll call coming up like soft butter on warm toast. Time to spread some freedom coast to coast. It's time for roll call Facebook dot com slash buck Sexton for roll call action where I get to hear from all of you over

the weekend. I am planning, I don't know about you. I'm planning on lame pretty low this weekend, going to try to regroup and recharge. Been quite a week, friends, A lot of stuff going on, a lot of things to handle. You know, sometimes it's just not your week. This week just wasn't my week. But we got good things to hear from all of you, good things to read. That's fun. Matthew rights buck. As a trucker and managing

a small trucking company, I welcome automation. There is a severe lack of drivers and the insane level of logging regulation we are under makes it very difficult to get loads moved in the time shipper's desire. Just having a truck that can drive interstate and highways between cities while the drivers sleeps would be a major benefit. That still leaves us skilled drivers to handle the difficult in city

pickups and deliveries thanks to the great show shield Tai. Matthew, see this is this is why I always appreciate the expertise from this audience of people who really know these issues because they're living these issues, are dealing with the reality of the challenges that we talk about on a

daily basis. And you raise a great point about essentially the ability to have drivers who would be it would be really a partially AI partially AI situation not entirely, so that way they could sleep overnight, and if they're on highways, you know, they could eliminate the need to stay up for highway driving, which is obviously a huge

portion of interstate trucking and travel in general. So you know, you see, this is what we can't tell right now, which is how well the technology can be integrated and how people can continue to have jobs with the technology anyway. But you obviously have a good sense of that, and I think that's a very interesting, very interesting idea you have there, sir. Thank you, Amy, writes Ha. The movie references Archimedes in Disney's Sword in the Stone that was

from yesterday. Also, thanks for not hammering my Senator Mike Lee for voting his principles. I like that someone in DC is wanting to do that. Mitt Romney, however, does not have a constitutional foundation, as shown by his governance. Feel free to take a swing. We all know he's a progressive and highly political you know, Amy, I think that there are people that in the Senate who believe that what they did was trying to turn back executive

over region, and there were definitely good faith arguments about that. Yesterday. I was a little frustrated about it, and probably a little more harsh across the board about the senators that voted in favor of the resolution of condemnation that I

should have been. But the president needs all the help he can get these days, and I do think that Republicans suffer from a bit of a grandstanding complex and a self righteousness complex, where when it's really important that they're all, you know, trying to run the ball up the middle together, some of them will say, no, I'm not going to because I'm so special, and that's not helpful. But Mike Lee, he may in fact sleep on a

bed with sheets made from copies of the Constitution. If I found that out about Senator Mike Lee, it would not surprise me. I've interviewed Mike a bunch of times, haven't interviewed him in a while, though, should probably try to get him on one of my shows. Adam, Hello, Adam, on the Trump's first veto. It reveals for all that we have a single party establishment. Both party elites work only for themselves, and there's little, if anything we can

do without tremendous cost to ourselves. Dark times shields high Adam, the political elite is a real thing. There are certainly real concerns about what Kennon should be done by those of us who have to live in a country where the laws are written by generally self interested men and women. There has not been as much movement on the Trump agenda as I would have liked in these last two years. There's no question about that. Congress has played a role.

I think a lack of focus from the White House, or perhaps a focus on some of the wrong things, has played a role. And now we are heading into a very bitter election season with incredibly important consequences. Whether the country will be socialist or not is essentially what is at stake, and that's going to be a tough time to make the case. Well, you know, I don't really like socialism, but I wish Trump had followed throwing even more of US campaign promises. I'm not sure that's

going to be a sound way to approach it. So I think you'll see a lot of Trump supporters willing and desiring to give him another four years. As for what the Republican Party will do, it is true, and you're seeing more of this lately, people repeating this. Politicians

will always disappoint you. They will always disappoint you, even the good ones, even the ones who are trying, because they are men and women, they are flawed, they have their own interests, and the system itself is such that I think it grinds down even the best men and women. I think that the swamp has a kind of toxic effect, and it certainly weak is the backbones of many a member of Congress. Chuck, all right, did you notice that

the Spanish version says betto for all? And he sent me a link to something Beto o'rourkey, Chuck, I did not notice that. I did not see that, Chuck. But your Betto is gonna push a lot on the fact that he is bilingually speaks Spanish, and that will certainly be something you're hearing a lot more of or from him on. So there you go, Mark Buck. The only thing better than Hillary doing single nasal breathing yoga is

the Betto impression, followed by de Blasio Wilhelm. Even my nine year old loss it with the Hillary single nasal breathing yoga impersonation. Thanks Mark, I don't even remember. Obviously, we've done a lot of Hillary stuff on the show. I don't this single single name. We gotta, we gotta John. Do you remember that Hilary single nasal breathing impression? I know I did it. I just can't remember what I did. Some days, I'm I'm overtaken by a bit of wackiness

that can kind of happen. Tends to be more I was gonna say tend to be more on Friday. I'm not even sure that's really true, Mary, Rights, Buck, you are right about recruiting for sports in college. Only a small amount a small amount go on to go pro. The ones that don't need to be able to read and do well in school to have a career after college needs to start before college. It needs to start

in school, Mary. People sometimes say, here's an unpopular opinion, and then they share an opinion that most people that they want to agree with and will agree with them on. You know, here's an unpopular opinion, folks. I really respect the constitution, right, No, Buck, that's that's not an unpopular opinion with people you're talking to, But a lot of a lot of media folks do that these days. My position on ending college athletics recruiting is legitimately an unpopular opinion.

There are some people who agree with me, but there are a few and far between. From what I can see and the editorial I wrote today in the Hill people, I can tell a lot of people that commented on it didn't even read it. They just think there's kind of this like, oh, whatever, nerd, you know what, you're such a nerd, Why do you not want sports. I've

never said we shouldn't have sports in college. I just think it's so funny that the culture is such that right now we're supposed to think it's normal that if you are a great water polo player, you should maybe get into Stanford even if you don't have great grades. Why who the heck cares about water polo? And for the really big sports teams, really football, basketball, maybe put a few others in there that do draw major crowds,

that do get big NCAA ratings. I think that those students should be treated as semi pro athletes, so that they would be essentially athletic Academy admits, and they would have still they would still have access to the same classes and everything else. But we should just be one less exploitative of people in the the nc double A, which is what's going on right now. It's a multi

billion dollar business. And if one of these NC Double A players, you know, takes a ham sandwich from a booster, we are all supposed to get so outraged that this kid who doesn't have any money and is an incredible athlete, you know, and people are making a lot of money off of his skills. You know. I think that's a big problem. But also D three schools recruiting is just ridiculous, and I don't care. I don't care anybody because I went to a D three school and it was bizarre.

There was no reason for they were recruiting for team. They had dozens of different teams. They're recruiting for the women's softball team, they're recruiting for the men's crew team, they're recruiting for the you know, the lacrosse team, men's and women's. If it, why, why can't we just have people show up? The school of sixteen hundred kids show up. Each sport has tryouts, They last a few days, You

play your sport, and you know, you go about your life. Man, I just why can't we do it the way they do it in high school? I don't understand people. I keep in mind that people are getting into the school that don't have the academic skills and then they struggle, and there's a lot of bitterness from some of the especially the big sport athletes who don't do well in school. But Mary, I appreciate you are the one of the very few that has reached out to me today and

that has agreed with me on this at all. I got I didn't get dragged on this today, but I definitely people were just, oh, whatever, shut up, nerd. Sports are cool. It's like I played sports in college. I played sports, and I love sports. I'm not anti sports. I'm anti people cheating the system by being great fencers, which is not exactly a highly competitive sport in this country. And hate to break it to you, not a lot of people spending hours and hours a day doing fencing

so that they can get into Harvard. Okay, I think that's just stupid anyway. And then I think that the big sports at the big school should be semipro. Don't And I don't understand why this is such a oh oh, and here's the crazy idea. And the universities and collegists auld first and foremost be concerned with educating students. Wow, it's not insane. They're educational institutions. Maybe they maybe they shouldn't.

I mean, you think of a lot of these schools and you you name them, and people immediately think football or basketball or you know, whatever sport they're best known for. That's not which that's not good. Schools should want to be known for being great, great institutions of learning. And I know I do sound like a hull modern or nerd here, like, oh, schools wan be good learning? But it's true. Schools are about learning. Why is it so

hard for people to understand and believe schools are about learning? Anyway? Seeing I've been thinking of this for a long time, but the American culture does not want to agree with me and telling people that, you know, Texas Tech is going to have a great football team even if they don't break academic standards for students and recruit like a professional team, they don't want to hear that. I mean, they'd still have great football. They still have great football

games to watch. What's the difference. But people, you know, people don't want to hear what buck as to say on this one, except the ones who want the truth. We'll be right back, and we're back with Roll Call Part two on our Friday show. Here the way, take off the weekend, everybody. I hope you've enjoyed hanging out with me today here in the Freedom Hut on the

buck Sex didn't show. You know, it'd be fun one day to just do like a third hour where I get to just be one of those radio hosts who's like, hey, bringing you the smoothest hits circa nineteen ninety three, you know, and just like play the music and be the guy who you know, the original on air? They said, right, John, isn't that how like radio? That's what people used to do, And then talk radio started really in the well, I

forget what it was. I should so much should write a book about the radio industry, because there's really no place to go to. Are there books about the radio industry? Really? Oh okay, we'll see that's not something I've ever seen, so I don't have to learn about this. Like people bring up Bob Grant and I'm like, I don't know who Bob Grant was? Am I supposed to move Bop? I mean, I know he's a radio host, but I don't know anything other than that. So I gotta I

gotta learn some of these things. Let's see we have, Aaron, college sports need to be suspended for ten years to give everyone involved time to find a new career. Afterwards, it can be restored on a commertly, completely non commercial volunteer basis. No paid coaches, no athletics scholarships, no broadcast of games, no charge for admission. Aaron, you know that's a pretty radical take, but I can you know how

I feel about this. I think that college sports in general are completely out of control and that everyone needs to get a grip and this is just it's just too much at this point, like it needs to not be what it is, and there's a lot of complexity to it. It's different at the D one the D

three level. I think that you know, athletic scholarships, if you're going to do the semipro league in the university, call them scholar or you know, sports academy admits, so people that are there primarily for sports but also are being taught and going into class. I just think there are ways to structure that are different, you know, think about it this way, my friends. I mean, our university system is really based on the European university system split

this out there. Yeah, Oxford has sports clubs. You know, there's a soccer club team, and there's rowing teams and there's But Oxford and Cambridge don't have a few dozen, highly recruited, highly competitive sports programs that have enormous stadiums that they play in and you know, ten tens of millions of dollars on facilities now that they don't have that,

and it's okay. They still have lots of sports leagues in the country, and you know, I think people increasingly should if you want to pursue first of all, if you want to pursue professional sports, then there's a lot of argue. There's a lot of argument made that with the exception of football, you really want to do it by the time you're eighteen, you're basically ready to go pro by eighteen, so and in tennis, for example, it's a lot earlier than that. I just think it needs

a rethink. And you know, that's such a big system, there's so many people that make money off it. Nobody really wants to to change it. But I think I'm right on this one. I know that I'm a little bit of a sports flat earther. But I'm telling you the Earth is flat. I'm telling you this is on this issue. Don't don't quote me. Oh my gosh, this is like media matters of book Sucsten's a flat Earth or no. No. I just meant I was taking the analogy further. Darn it. Joey, big fan of your radio show.

I hear you are a dog lover. I have a Belgian Shepherd, a TerVeer in best dog ever. What do you think about the breed? Well, Joey, thank you so much for being a fan of the show. I do absolutely love dogs. I think dogs are one of the great joys in life. I think that dogs are great companions, and if I had a more set schedule and a little bit more time and resources to devote to it, I would get a dog and a heartbeat, I do

plan at getting a dog one day. As for Belgian Shepherds, if they are the dog I think they are, which I think people sometimes confuse with Belgian Malinois, But I'd have to look up the specific breed, but I'm sure Shepherds are usually great dogs. Team. That's gonna be it for the show today. Thank you so much for listening. Really Please do have a great weekend, rest up, take care of yourself. We'll talk Monday. Shields Hie