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were planning on. Donald Trump is not president anymore. Democrats have control of the House and the Senate, you know how this all goes. And we haven't heard from Trump in a while, and that is meant that the media has been able to construct this narrative of a Republican Party that is about to either go into tremendous fracture, a GOP civil war as they're calling it, or that

will just start to fade into irrelevancy. Donald Trump showed up at Sepack, I was down there in Florida, and and here's what he said about what it means right now for the GOP. What is the GOP play sixteen? The future of the Republican Party is as a party that defends the social economic and cultural interests and values of working American families of every race, color, and creed. That's why the party is growing so rapidly, and it's becoming a different party, and it's becoming a party of love.

You have to see outside the streets. I mean, there's such love the Flags Party of Love. That was Trump being Trump. But I do think that that ultimately we should start to embrace the idea that the Republican Party is about making this country better for all people, and that our ideas are in fact rooted in care and consideration for our fellow human beings. Right. I want safer streets for everybody, want better and cheaper healthcare options for everybody.

I want things in this country to be working well for all the American people. I don't have an US versus them mentality. I have a what's best for all of us mentality. I think the Republicans shouldn't shy away from verbalizing that because the other side says Republicans are racist, they're classist, they're evil, they're misogynists, you know, the xenophobic.

They have all these things they always say, and that's actually the opposite of what the Republican Party is all about that's the opposite of what it means to be a conservative. I also agree with the Great Ronald Reagan when he says, when he would say this was not a one off, that you shouldn't walk away from the term republican and only embraced conservative. Conservatism is the belief, that's the ideology. But the home, the vessel for conservatism

in American today is the Republican Party. And if you're wondering, what do we say for, what's the point of it all? And I get that frustration. I know, we see what's going on with Biden, and you know, Hiden Biden, he's out of the basement now in the White House, but he might as well as be in the basement. No leadership, no vision, just a bunch of leftists around him that are that are actually pushing the levers and making the

making the calls that the progressives want him to. And we look at all this and you say, what what are we here for? Why Why do we we exist? Because this country deserves a better future than what the Democrats can give it. The Conservatives exist because we look at history and we look at what has happened, and we make decisions based upon what we think is the best and most rational evidence of what will be best for all of us, and a simple way to put this.

But we don't have to get overly eloquent about any of this. We're gonna say, somebody's got to stand in the way of the crazy. Maybe that's the best way to say, somebody's got to tell the other side sorry, you're not going to just get to run us off the cliff, hitting the accelerator full speed without at least some folks telling you, what are you doing? Stop? This

is a bad idea, This will be destructive. Don't do this right, whether it's the absurd, ideologically driven anti science attacks on fossil fuel, the continuation of the lockdown mania that we've seen, you, complete repudiation from the Democrats of so many lessons that we've already learned about what works and what doesn't work when it comes to public policy. How we can actually make people safer on the streets. Here's the answer, Not by blaming cops. That's step one

is stop blaming the cops. They're not the ones committing the crimes. They're not the reason that people are getting shot in urban areas of the country at higher rates now they have in a long time, and we had a huge spike in crime over the last year during the pandemic year. Of course, there's so much going on right now, and it's it's incumbent upon us. It's Conservative's role right now to say, what are you doing, crazy left, what are you doing? Stop it? And here's why, here's

a better way. They may not listen to us, and they probably almost certainly won't, but we still have to say it. We need it to be clear to people there's an alternative because we are going to get control back. We are going to be at a better future. It will happen. I know. Right now we're at a little bit of a low point. Right the Republican Party feels like what the heck is going on now. You can listen to some people in the GOP who will tell you not a single state House got flipped in the

last election. We gained seats in the House, but Nancy Pelosi still speaker and they still have a majority. We are fifty fifty in the Senate. You know, they can put a happy face on it, but come on, folks, we needed to maintain control of the Senate. It was crazy that we lost both those Georgia Senate seats. I mean, there were some blunders and we had an incumbent president who lost, and we can talk about why and what

the other side did and everything else. But at the end of the day, Joe Biden's president, Donald Trump is not This is disappointing, but it's not the end. It's not a moment of panic that we should have. Okay, this is, in fact, just the period in which we're going to see people coming together. They're talking about GOP civil war. I think you're going to see GOOP consolidation. Yeah. Donald Trump said maybe he will run again. He teased the idea of running again. He said he might win

for a third time. But here's what's very clear. Trump is engaged, the people around him are engaged, and the movement will continue. It's not over. It's not going away. This is what I was saying the day after the election in November. The ideas continue, the lessons learned from the last four years continue. Here's what the former president says. Trumpism actually means play eighteen. It means low taxes and

eliminating job killing regulations. Trumpism it means strong borders, but people coming into our country based on a system of merit, so they come in and they can help us, as opposed to coming here and not being good for us, including criminals, of which there are many. It means no riots in the streets. It means law enforcement. Those are all good things, aren't they. Law enforcement, No riots, and notice, no riots. We don't approve of some riots and not others.

No riots, No use of force for political means. Taking into the hands of mobs never acceptable. We have principles. Unlike the left, they just have whatever achieves power in a short term sense. That's what their focus is. Always on. Strong borders, no riots in the streets, low taxes. These are all very viable paths for this country. And I have to remind everybody that we were in a fluke year, and we were in a once in a century pandemic.

That's just a fact. And the incumbent president lost. Now, yes, I believe very strongly that if Donald Trump had run for reelection and say the fall of twenty nineteen, based on the decisions the actual governance, he would have won. But that wasn't the that wasn't the hand we were dealt. That's not what we That's not what we had to go back into the election cycle with, and so we

did the best we could with what we had. It was a very difficult year in the media lied so much about what was going on, and continue too, And I'm going to tackle that in a moment, but I'm here to just tell you stay in the fight and stay focused, being with all those conservatives that see back, listening to them, talking to them, hearing those speakers for days, and then of course Trump's speech at the very end, it was a reminder of what the conservative movement means

in America, what we're trying to accomplish now, what the stakes are, of course, and that there are millions and millions of us across the country who don't think that, you know, canceling Keystone Excel is a good idea. Don't want open borders, don't blame the cops for the crime that criminals commit. Don't think that big government and the state control of every aspect of your life and every aspect of the economy will be good for any of us.

We're here, folks, and we're just getting We're just getting going now. The machinery on our side is mobilizing, and the Biden squad. Those folks are all going to have to find themselves playing a whole lot of defense and it's going to be much more challenging than I think they realized when they were popping the champagne corks back in November. Trump reminded us of all of that and more. Whether he's the nominee or it's someone else in four years,

it doesn't matter. This is about conservatism. This is about a Trumpian approach or you know, trump tactics in the pursuit of conservative policies at how to wage a successful opposition for the hearts and minds of the American people at this point in time. And we have the tools, we have great messengers, we have fantastic results in the state of Florida to show, and so now now begins that work. Two years the mid terms, It's gonna go by in a flash. We do the work of speaking

the truth about America here every day. We all do it. That's our mission, that's our plans. You're in the freedom hunt. Thanks for listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast to get the latest from Buck at buck sexton dot com and in one of his first official x which was incredible because again he talked about energy. He never said

he was going to do this. He canceled the Keystone XEL pipeline, destroying not the eight thousand or the nine thousand, or the eleven thousand jobs that you hear, but forty two thousand great paying jobs on just about day one. Right. He never talked about that during a debate because he wouldn't have gotten away with it. Well he would have, because they cheated so much, it probably wouldn't have been That's just one example of what I've been telling you

since Biden came into office. Now that they told us that it was good old blue collar Joe, the moderate, the centrist, you know, no big deal, And what we've gotten, of course, is somebody who doesn't really differ all that much from what any other Democrat that ran. I mean, remember, they had like a cast of thousands running in that Democrat primary. They had to have they had have two different stages to debate nights for one phase of the

debate because they had so many people running. And what you're getting with Biden is essentially just another doctrinaire left wing Democrat. This is not a surprise. There's nothing about this that anybody should should have said, wait a second, yeah, of course they lied. Of course they presented Joe Biden as as the cuddly old Grandpa for America. And that's not really who he is. Because it doesn't matter who

Joe Biden is. He's just a placeholder. He's just the trojan horse that unfortunately the horse got into the gates and now Troy is burning. But now we'll be okay,

Well we're gonna rebuild it. It's gonna be fine. Trump was really amoring Biden, which is pretty easy to do because, as I've said to you, if there were trade offs in these Biden policies where there was a very clear, very clear benefit for the American people, not for a special interest group, not for some ideologically motivated segment of the population that writes big checks to Democrats, if there was something that was good, you know, but then you can see the drawback of it, I would say, so

so much of what Biden has done, he's just bad across the board. And Trump at seapack pointed that out play seventeen, his campaign was all lies talked about energy. I thought, I said, you know this guy, actually he's okay with energy. He wasn't okay with energy, wants to put you all out of business. He's not okay with energy. It wants windmills, the wind mills, the windmills that don't work when you need him. Joe Biden has had the most disastrous first month of any president in modern history.

That's true. Already, the Biden administration has proven that they are anti jobs, anti family, anti borders, anti energy, anti women, and anti science. In just one short month, we have gone from America first to America last, From America first to America last. What has the Biden administration done so far? Where you'd say, you know what, taking the politics out of it, I really see the merit and wisdom in that.

In fact, you know, the only thing that some people might point to you would have been Democrats in Congress pushing for the minimum wage, even though, as we all know, the minimum wage does not work the way that Democrats think it does, or does not function in practice the way they believe it will in theory. It does cause a lot of people to lose their jobs. It does cause a lot of people get their hours cut back.

Some people, see I'm honest about this, Some people do benefit from a higher mandatory minimum wage, but other people lose jobs, other people lose access to work, is fascinating. Some Democrats were even pointing out that this would be a hurdle for low wage illegal immigrants. Oh my gosh, what do we do if the minimum wage is higher? They'll be less desire or less ability, I should say,

for employers to illegally hire illegal immigrants. That's where Democrats heads are not as they always have this concern, this concern for illegal immigrants ahead of Americans who are unemployed, ahead of what it does to the wage scale. It's very straightforward, supply and demand, more workers who can do a job, less money you're going to get for those workers. It's this is this is a law of basic economics.

This is this is basic economics in practice. But Democrats think that they can get around that, that it doesn't really count somehow, there's some other way. But no, Biden, everything he's done in the first month and office, you look at and you say, who's making these decisions? What's the point of, oh, rejoining the Paris Climate Agreement. These are the things that Democrats come into power in the

middle of a pandemic. We've got all these idiotic lockdown policies, all these mask mania absurdities abounding all over the place. People get mad at me when I say that, Yeah, you're right, I'm sorry. It makes a lot of sense that every restaurant I went to in Florida, I had to mask up as I walked in and then sit down and take my mask off. There's a lot of science. People seem to believe there's science behind that, that there's

some kind of safety reason for it. If you believe that that is for your safety, there's no reason why the government can't make you do a hundred jumping jacks every day whenever you go outside because it's good for your heart health. The government can make you do anything, no matter how dumb, no matter how ridiculous, that probably actually would be good for your heart health overall. But I hate jumping jack's. This is absurd. It's absurd. But the Biden presidency that we've seen so far is as

I thought it would be. And now a Trump started as speech by saying, and did you miss me? That's that's how we started the speech, did you miss me? And I think America is going to figure out pretty soon,

especially here's here's my prediction. They're gonna slow the reopening, but as it starts to reopen, then they're really going to realize the full extent of the damage of the lockdowns and how much spending has gone on, and we're gonna hit really rough economic times in the next six to twelve months, and then Democrats are going to do

the opposite of what they did. They're gonna be desperately blaming Trump for the economy when Biden's actually making the decisions, just like they were desperately trying to give Obama credit for Trump's economy. They're gonna do everything they can to make the Biden economy the Trump economy. That's my prediction. Let's see. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Follow Buck on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. And I want you to know that I'm going to continue to fight right

by your side. Louie will do what we've done right from the beginning, which is to win. We're not starting new parties. You know, they kept saying he's going to start a brand new party. We have the Republican Party. It's going to unite and be stronger than ever before. I am not starting a new party. That was fake news, fake news. Now wouldn't that be brilliant. Let's start a new party and let's divide our vote so that you can never win. No, we're not interested in that. No

new party. United in the Republican Party, and we're going to figure it out right now. It's about the movement, the ideas and mobilizing. That's where we are as Republicans, as conservatives, and Trump is going to be right there along with us. It may not be Trump who winds up being the standard bearon four years. I know that the seed pack straw Pole had him as the overwhelming favorite to run again, But then there's also dissantists and

a gnome being talked about as contenders. And I think that the president will see where we are how things go. Four years at his age is a long time. That's just the truth. I mean, I know you'd say, what about Joe Biden. Yeah, Joe Biden's too old for the job, folks. He's actually too old to be doing this. Nancy Pelosi too old for the job. I'm not gonna do what Democrats do and have two sets of standards here. You know, Trump is right on the edge, right on the edge

of just physically, folks. I understand he's got tremendous energy, but what time about four years from now, Guys gonna be what seventy seven going on seventy eight. It's asking a lot. By the way, I hope President Trump, you know, lasts another thirty years and you know it is in great health and can run for president again in four years. And that may very well be the case. But I'm saying, we don't know. Nobody's got a crystal ball, and four years is a lifetime in politics, the most the most

cliched phrase you'll everywhere. Oh, it's a lifetime in politics, right that It all comes down to turn out on election day? Yeah, no kidding. Whoever scores more points on the board is gonna win the game. Yes, also true, we need to know what we're trying to accomplish now, what we're trying to do as a party, that's what matters, And we need to be making the argument building platforms. There is a rebuilding that needs to go on here. We need to make sure that we can't get silenced again.

Remember they pulled off the silencing in the election. They covered for Hunter Biden. They shut down the New York Post story an entirely true story about Hunter Biden's laptop. They were able to do that and they suffered no consequences. We need them to actually, we need the social media companies to at least think twice, and then eventually we need to break them up, and we need to treat them as them monopolies they are. I mean you to break them into tiny little pieces. People say, oh no,

but it won't be as good for consumers. Really, you don't think. You don't think anybody else can come up with like an email or search engine or you know a little chat boxes and things like. You don't think anyone else's trust me. It'll be fine, all right, it'll be fine. You know the reason that our flat screen TVs Right now, I'm maybe gonna get a new flat screen because mine has gone crazy. It's like possessed by

a demon. The reason that you can get a you know, fifty five inch flat screen TV for three hundred dollars, now that I mean fifteen years ago or ten years ago. Would it cost you four grand or ten grand or something crazy? The reason is because of competition among many different companies. So it works everywhere else, But somehow the social media companies have convinced you the best way is for them to only be one player. That's the best for consumers. Amazon too, that's what's best for you. It's

clearly not. I wanted to focus for a little bit on on the Florida aspect of this because being at Seapack, and I would say, first off, I want to thank everybody who was there, who was who's at Seapack, and who was willing to come up and talk to me and say hi. It means a lot. It was great to see this. It was great to see people who share my beliefs values who in many cases listen to this show. So there was a lot of a lot of Team Buck in the house and that was fantastic.

But being in Florida was also you could feel that there is a sense that this is now a movement unto itself, that there are more and more Republicans who will be moving to Florida, that there are more and more Republicans who are deciding that that's going to be. And I hate to say it, because I had some some folks from from Austin, Texas who are listening to the show listening on KLBJ in Austin. They came up to me to talk to me. Texas Governor Abbott has

really missed an opportunity here. It feels like the leadership of the Republican Party is firmly now in the same way that California. New York is a close second, but California feels like the homeland of the Democrat Party. That's what that's what Florida is becoming for the Republican Party. And now we're as it's not as red as California is blue, but I think that's I think that's changing a bit. I'll also tell you that I did experience at a few of the bars, because you know, they're

seapac parties and things, a very different attitude there. I mean, you walk in, and I'm being honest with you, you walk into these places and they will tell you to put a mask on, but they're they're generally very polite about it. They're generally very nice. Excuse me, could you put it? You know, no one's yelling at you and acting like you're actually killing grandma because they saw you without a mask on. But it's it's fascinating to see how people just took them off when they went inside

and then nobody. There was no anxiety about it because people around them, the individuals around them are you know, the people around them have not been completely breadwashed into into states of terror. They're not feeling like if you breathe, if you breathe near them, you're going to kill them. And that's the way the whole country should be. So

it was interesting to see it in Florida specifically. It's still stunning to me how many people believe there's a sound scientific basis for the no masks while you eat, but mask up when you walk in policies that are in so many states, including New York where I am now. I mean, the willingness of millions to enthusiastically evangelize this kind of authoritarian absurdity has really exceeded any and all pre COVID expectations. It's no Ah, I don't know. It's

it's crazy, isn't it. I Mean, that's what we've it's turned into. You can't even begin to justify this stuff. You can't even begin to make sense of it. But this is where we are as a country. And this is why when I see things like a south on South or no Spirit Airlines or Southwest it's the Spirit Airlines. I believe it was. I don't know, one of those airlines, one of the kind of budget airlines they kicked off. A sorry Frontier. I gotta get it right Frontier Airlines.

If I'm gonna call them out by name, I gotta get it right. Frontier Airlines ejected an Orthodox Jewish family from a fly. There's video of it for allegedly, And this is the story that's going around failing to mask an eighteen month old baby. That's what we've turned into now as a country. If you've turned into a country where where we're being told you have to mask up you're eighteen month old, even though the CDC says masking under two years of age is unnecessary. That's the CDC guidance.

For anyone who cares. Notice that when the CDC guidance is what the lockdowners want, it is sacrosanct. But anytime they want to go beyond that, anytime they want to push for more, that's fine too, even if it's in contradiction to the CDC guidance. So when they want it, you can't argue with it. But when it's not actually supported by the CDC, it's shut up and do what you're told. Parents, This is up in Canada. Give you

an idea of how far this can go. There has now been up in Canada a series of guidelines in Toronto that have been offered up instructing parents to keep any children who have been sent home because they have a classmate who tested positive for COVID nineteen isolated in a separate room from all other family members for fourteen days. That's right, Canada. Now in Toronto is advocating for people

the Peel Peel region schools. I don't even know what Peel is, but apparently it's part of part of Toronto. They want you to lock your kid in a separate room from the family and I have no contact with family for fourteen days because another kid in the class had it. You know that the spread of this virus is overwhelmingly if someone spreads that, they spent it to one person. So there are a lot of people who have been around somebody with COVID and they never actually

even got COVID. They didn't get it from them. It's you know, we have fear has overtaken rationality on this subject in a way that's really hard to overstate. But this is the biggest fight, and you know I've been saying it now for a year. The biggest fight in this country is the fight to regain our liberty and to regain sanity from the lockdown left. We gotta do that. You want Donald Trump to win, or another America first

candidate to win in four years, you want that. You need to win this battle now because if the lockdown left can get away with this, they can get away with anything. And they've conditioned the American people to believe that their freedom is just a suggestion that the Constitution doesn't actually defend or protect their rights. It's only there during good times, not in the bad. That's not the way this is supposed to work. This is the Buck

Sexton Show Podcast. Join the conversations and message Buck on Facebook, Instagram, or email Team Bucket iHeartMedia dot com. He may read it on the show. So Mitch McConnell says Trump is morally responsible for January's capital siege, yet he also says he's willing to support him in a twenty twenty four bid. Come on, Mitch McConnell's only kissing the ring this week because Trump is about to come out of hiding, where

he'll likely set the stage for that run next cycle. Tomorrow, the seditionist ex president a loser, I'll remind you, we'll headline the Conservative Political Action Conference SEEPACK. The event that started in the early seventies has always been viewed as a place for conservatives, some who've gone off the deep but at very least it was rooted in ideas. They talked about polity policies that could, in their opinion, make

the country a better place. However, in the last several years, the conference has devolved into a cesspool of hatred, bigotry, and exclusionary garbage, a place where speakers rail on the country's most marginalized for simply striving to attain equal rights. I'm not a conservative, but I like conservatives, and I respect conservative ideology even if I don't agree with it. But if I were a conservative, today's version of Seapack

would offend me to my core. Not only was blatant prejudice on display this week, we also saw Missouri Senator Josh Holly bragged to the crowd about his rejection of the twenty twenty election results, which ultimately gave way to the insurrection on Capitol Hill and the deaths of five people. I'm sorry that you had to hear that, but I wanted you to know the kind of things that are being said at MSNBC by people who were not at Seapack.

Don't know what was going on at Seapack, don't care, relly what was going on at Seapack, because they just view it as, oh, a bunch of conservatives are together. Let's call it a quote cesspool of hatred, bigotry, and exclusionary garbage. This is just this is idiotic slander, that's all. There's a lot of it about se Pack. And there are people that only show up think about this, it's a political conference. Then there are people who show up there who know, who know that their job is to

try to find one thing. They're there to attack. They're not there to report, they're there to attack. I was at Spack for the whole conference, pretty much close to the whole conference, and all I saw were a lot of people being completely polite, friendly, decent to one another, excited to see each other, talking about ideas, listening to shows. That's all that I saw. That's what was going on. And yet, well, beyond that, what have they decide that they were going to focus on I mean the media.

What were the people that are supposed to be reporting on this that you can't make this stuff up. That SEPACK had a Nazi insignia as a stage. This is what they were saying. SEEPAC had it the Odel or Othala Rune, according to the Washington Post, which was emblazoned on some Nazi uniforms, and the Anti Defamation League has classified the insignia as a hate symbol. These these people

are out of their minds. They're they're out of their minds. Yeah, okay, there is a thing called an I understand that there is a symbol, but I had never before seen this, was not familiar with this. I'm somebody who reads a lot about World War Two. It finds it to be a fascinating period in history. So let's just start from this premise. Beyond the fact that a SEPAC, there are a lot of really prominent Jewish speakers and attendees, and

I mean, the whole thing is this nuts. I know, it's so crazy that it's like where do you start? But this is the Washington Post and others reporting on this. If they're making a symbol that they want to somehow show a an affinity for an allegiance to a certain idea, to an ideology here of Nazism or white supremacy or whatever is they're gonna say, wouldn't it have to be a symbol that somebody, like somebody actually knows what it is.

Start with that premise. If I don't even know what this thing is, and I'm better a red on the Second World War than ninety nine percent of the Washington Post staff and writers, trust me when I say that they're stretching, that they're desperate. I mean, come on, And what I really want to know is is if this you know, what we need to do now would be to find other other designs of stages that look like this.

I'm sure there are plenty of them. Is when you look at it, you go, yeah, they're just trying to use that space most effectively or as effectively as they can. But yes, it's a it's an oodle run. They say, um, and why would SPAC do that? Why why would match lap and and the other top people running sepack because they have a fondness for the naziss Is the allegation, How how blanking stupid are the people reporting on this.

But see this again shows you we want to share ideas and we're not even allowed to We're not allowed to do. They have to slander, they have to lie, they have to misrepresent what we're doing and what we're all about with things like this. And there's also part of this this we know we shouldn't even have to go find other stages that look like this. Is this a stage design that's been used at the Highat for

other things? I'm willing to bet there's plenty of stages that have looked just like But see, we're wasting time. Then we already know that it's bullcrap, So why do we have to it's obviously garbage, So why do we have to waste our time then trying to even further proof that it's nonsense because they wanted to try to pressure high it. You gotta remember this, it's not enough. It's not enough for Democrats to have control of the government, to have control of the media, to have control of

social media and Hollywood everything else. They want to make it impossible for you to physically gather with fellow conservatives too. They want dominance and total control of the digital space, and they want dominance and total control of your ability to even gather in person, freedom of assembly. I believe it is called in this old document that we're all supposed to care about a lot as Americans, known as

the Constitution. All right, I mean, isn't that something that we can all at least agree on, you know, it isn't that something that we should all at least be able to say we can. Nope, they wanted to attack Highant. They don't want seapact. You'll meet anywhere these people are. These people are authoritarian cowards. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Follow Buck on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. Now, most governors shut down their states. What followed was record unemployment.

Businesses closed, most schools were shuttered, and communities suffered, and the US economy came to an immediate halt. Now let me be clear, COVID didn't crush the economy. Government crushed the economy. And then just as quickly, government turned around and held itself out as the savior. And frankly, the Treasury Department can't print money fast enough to keep up with Congress's wish list. But not everyone has followed this path.

For those of you who don't know South Dakota is the only state in America that never ordered a single bit business or church to close. And yet we're told that if only we had listened more to the lockdowners, if only these states that had shut down so much like California, had had their way even more so, we would all be better off. This is absurd. The data doesn't support it. But here's what you have to be

prepared for. There is no future. There will never be a time in which it is the case that the people that were advocating for demanding I should There was an advocacy. It was demand you do this because otherwise you're killing grandma. We're making you do this. Do this or we shut down your business, lockdown or not only will we find you, we will take away your liquor license, we will destroy your restaurant's ability to ever open. We'll

make sure you're done. Lockdown or else. They didn't convince, We didn't have a referendum. There wasn't a conversation. It was this is an emergency. The house is on fire. You have to run. You have to run. We'll hold on a second. What maybe we can put the fire out. Maybe I don't have to abandon my home. No, you have to. It's it's an emergency. That's what they did

to us. Now you're able to look at what's actually happened with COVID all across the country, and you realize, oh, so they were demanding something that turned out to be a terrible idea. If lockdown is so obvious, if this is such a clear and effective solution to the problem of an Ersli's pandemic virus, why was all of the public health guidance before this contradictory to that? Why was it the consensus opinion since the Spanish flew of nineteen

eighteen that we don't do that. We don't shut down society, we don't shut down businesses when there is an erslis virus that has a high risk for certain groups in circulation. Right, they change the consensus and then jumped all over you. If you pointed out that a shifting consensus is inherently on shaky ground, they didn't care, didn't matter. Look at Florida, Lugg's, South Dakota, look at these states. Understand this. They're gonna

try to line them up. They're gonna line up for you now, and there's so much dishonesty right now about it, and you need to remember that too. And the dishonesty is intentional. I wanted to be clear about that this was not something that has just happened sometimes. I mean, almost all the lockdown comparisons you'll see online now are so immensely sloppy and methodology as to be useless. And

this is often intentional. But people will realize one day that most lockdowns were so haphazard, temporary, and arbitrary as to render them useless in the long run, as in, there was almost no benefit when you look at this, the full scope and scale of the infections across the country. Almost no benefit from this whatsoever, if any. And in fact, there are some people who argue, quite credibly, could have made things worse given the situation of major American cities

and what was going on. Remember, they talked to us like we were going to crush the virus and the level would go way, way way down as a result of the most extreme stay at home orders. That never happened.

Nowhere did that happen. What ended up happening was we would go into a more extreme lockdown and it would take months and it would finally go down where there was the extreme lockdown, whether it was New York or California or New Jersey or wherever would finally go down, and it was going down in other places it didn't

have the extreme lockdown. You could just observe this and see what exactly is the benefit if all those other places we're also having massive declines in cases at the same time, what's the advantage of going into these self induced economic comas, which is what we've been through. There was no benefit. There was no benefit. If it was saving lots and lots of lives, you'd at least argue about what the costs in the drawbit. But they didn't.

Where we're show me how they saved lives. Remember, they're gonna tell you. They'll say, well, you know, Florida and California. They'll try to find some comparison of those states. As an example. They always give New York New Jersey a past They got hit first, Okay, but they got hit we all knew it was coming. They'll do a comparison, though, and they'll say, well, if you see here, technically this state, you know, did better than Florida, and this state had

lockdowns or something like that. But remember this should be this should be an enormous and obvious benefit, right. We weren't promised with lockdowns the way they were set up in this country and the people like Fauci and all the rest of them. We were not promised that it would be California that we were supposed to say, oh gee, that success. We were promised a situation like New Zealand where they have very, very, very low cases. But here's

the problem with that. New Zealand is a very remote island or islands from most of the rest of the world, with incredibly sparse population and absolutely hardcore lockdowns. Cannot leave your home enforced across the board for months on end. That's an actual lockdown. And here's the thing. We weren't willing to do that. We weren't going to do that,

and it wasn't possible for us to do that. So guess what we had the worst of all worlds never really lockdown and did not stay open in places like California. And to what end? To what benefit? Nobody ever seems to have to answer that question. How we're supposed to just sit around and assume that Fauci and all the rest of them knew what they were doing. It's absurd, it's absurd. I think that Fauci is the greatest villain of the pandemic. The only person who comes close is

Governor Cuomo. But Fauci, I think, is the single person most responsible for grotesquely politicizing the entire process and pretending that he was doing the opposite of that. The data. It's all about the data. And remember this for those of you who think that I'm some kind of anti masks zealot, and I am. Let's be honest. I hate masks. I think it's awful. I think they're wildly, wildly overstated as a mechanism for virus control. Look at the infection

rates among healthcare professionals. I know they're subjected to higher degree of risk, but okay, how effective are masks When you see that healthcare professionals have an infection rate compared to the general population, and that makes you think, okay, so I mean they're still they're masking up perfectly professionally, and ninety fives and anyway, and again it's not that it's zero. I can't say it's zero. I don't know.

I mean, I know there's studies that show this and that, and that's say, okay, but is it, Yeah, how effective we really supposed to be eighty percent? You think you think it with proper masking, you reduce viral spread by eighty percent. That's that's delusional, given what we've seen going on across the country. Delusional. They'll never admit They'll never admit it though, because so many of the people that push for this stuff, it's become a religion for them.

And also they really think that they really thought they were smarter than everybody else. That's the same thing the Russia collusion delusion. People, they thought that they they saw that conspiracy, they thought they were smarter than everybody else, that Trump was really working with Putin to steal the election. And you know, just because they're so smart that they

believed it. When you can take belief and mix it with ego, you have in an impenetrable shield of idiocy when you can pull those two when you can pull those two things together, you create a belief and then you mix it with the ego of that individual that I believe this because I'm smart, will never change, will never change. You're in the freedom hunt. Thanks for listening to the buck Sexton Show podcast. Get the latest from

Buck at buck Sexton dot com. The CDC will be coming out within the next few weeks, maybe even sooner, with some guidelines about what people who are vaccinated. And I think, and I know you're referring Dana to people who are doubly vaccinated fourteen days out, they're protected, they have that ninety four to protection. What can they do? I'm very certain and we've discussed this, and you're right.

I don't want to get ahead of the guidelines because the ADC wants to do things that are science based. If you can't get the science, you've got to maybe you as modeling, and in addition to modeling, you use good professional, common sense judgment. They'll be coming out with that.

But one of the things that I think is going to become clear that if you have individuals adults who are vaccinated, two people that are doubly vaccinated and are protected, then you can do things that we weren't talking about before. You could have dinner in a home without masks on.

You could have friends who you know are doubly vaccinated and are protected together with you, so you can start doing things essentially in the home in a setting where you're not out in the community where there are seventy thousand new infections per day, and you could start doing some of the things that you weren't able to do before. I mean, this little tyrant is out of his mind now.

I'm so happy that people have come to realize that I've been right about him all along, and that any on all the Foucci worshippers should be embarrassed because they were taken in by this Oh, I'm a little grandpa follows the data. I want to keep you safe. Nonsense. This guy's a little tyrant democrat bureaucrat. Oh, when you're doubly vaccinated, you might be able to eat dinner in

a private home. I mean, does this little jackass not know that everyone's been doing that pretty much the whole pandemic. Eat dinner in a prayer. Everyone's eating dinner in private homes all the time. If you and another you know, two adults are vaccinated, and well, what are we talking

about here? This is like when he said, you know, we can't go back to eating in restaurants, and we can't go back to two movie theaters even after people get even after you're vaccinated, and it's already the restaurants are open in most states across the country. At some level, we're already doing these things. That just goes to show you how out of touch. This little the worst. This guy's the worst. All right, he's not he's not impressive, he's not smart, he's not wise. His judgment is awful.

He's a partisan hack, he's a joke. Yeah, after you're after you're both doubly vaccine, after you both at ninety five percent, uh, you know, ninety five percent chance of being Remember, folks, you could do the math on this yourself. Okay, So it's ninety five percent, you're fine. Ninety five percent.

The person you're with is fine for a virus that has a ninety nine point you know, seven percent survival rate or something that or points, you know, ninety nine point seven or ninety nine point eight or whatever it is. And we're and you're not gonna You're not gonna live your life because of this. This is insane, This is not reasonable, it is not rational, It is not okay. But the Democrat panic and anxiety machinery can't turn itself off. Oh my gosh, I'm like, we gotta listen to Fauci.

We're gonna listen to Fauci. They don't know what to do. They can't handle the fact that they have to go back to normal life at some point. They know, my goshler's risk. I wanted to stay home and darn food. Ever, no, no, we do not live zero risk lives. We've all understood this. This is part of functioning, part of being a human being. And yet Fauci says things that make you think, what

the heck is this lunatic talking about? You know, if you have vaccinated double and the other person's vaccinated double, you can eat indoors without masks on at a private home, you know, where you're all, where you're both vaccinated. Did

he think we need him to tell us that? I'm just going to say that, unless you're, you know, a an immunocompromise senior citizen, if you need doctor Fauci to tell you that you're just not very bright, Okay, unless you're somebody that has a really, really specific and high risk If you need a doctor Fauct you to say that you're you're either not very bright or anxiety has

completely overtaken your brain. You know, you're not gonna have dinner with your your wife, You're not gonna have dinner with family members in your immediate family without masks on. I mean, as if, as if masking off when you're eating dinner even makes any sense, because you know you're unmasking, you're breathing all over the place. The whole thing is, they know so little really about the transmissibility of this thing.

That's what's so amazing. They don't really understand even I mean, you'll go, you'll see there's some studies that suggest that somebody can be really really infectious and it can spread through air vents in a building. There are other studies that will suggest, you know, you sit around and say, well, what well, that's why they're talking about ventilation systems in the schools because there are these studies that show that.

But but they think that where it a mask is gonna save you at the you know which one is it. This thing can go through the vents in a building so that you don't even see a person, you're not even within fifty feet of a person, and you might be able to get COVID from them. But wearing a mask is going to is going to protect you. It

can't be both those things. Not really hate to break into everybody, but there's so many open questions about this, So there's so many things that they don't know, but they won't admit that, because to admit that is one to show everybody that this expert class. Look, the expert class when it comes to doctors has lost all public health officials, I should say, has lost a lot of credibility,

a lot of credibility. People are much less impressed with what somebody with a stethoscope and a lab coat says is good policy than they were before. And that's a good thing. But this guidance the CDC's going to come out with for vaccated people is going to be pathetic. It should be go back to life, go back to your normal life. That's what it should be when you're vaccinated. Right now, we can even have a whole discussion about whether everybody should get vaccinated, but I mean, for those

who are vaccinated, we're just talking about that. It should be go live your life. Okay, that's it. That's reasonable. Everything else is unreasonable. But oh but there's a one in you know, one and ten thousand chance you might get it, and then a one in five thousand chance you might give it, and then you know, now we're getting we're getting into silly numbers at this point, ridiculous numbers at this point. And and that's this is why

I'm I'm not letting this go. Doctor Fauci here says, we're also we're gonna pull back on COVID restrictions one day play eleven. Let's look at what history has taught us. If you go back and look at the various surges whenever we hit a peak and start coming down, understandably,

totally understandably say well, let's pull back. We're going to ultimately be pulling back, but you want to get the level of baseline infections per day very low, because if you look at that little plateau, particularly in the arena of having variants such as we have in California and such as we have in New York, it is really risky to say it's over, we're on the way out, let's pull back, because what we can see is that

we turn up. It isn't hypothetical data because just look historically at the late winter, early spring of twenty twenty, of the summer of twenty twenty, when we started to pull back prematurely. We saw the rebound. Don't want that

to happen. I would think it is. I think, I think you know, obviously, each individual state and city needs to look at the situation in their own in their own location where they are, but in general to think, just because the cases are coming down on the daily basis, take a look at the pattern and just watch over the next several days to a week. If we do this and start coming up, then we're gonna go right

back to the road of rebounding. He's been wrong about this at every step, at every stage, and what he's telling you is total crap. Right now, just for the record, Okay, he absolutely cannot tell you that he was saying, Oh, it's gonna We're gonna have a rebate. He had no idea up down all around it, no idea what was going on with the different spikes making it up as he goes along, wrong over and over and over again.

You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Make sure you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeart Radio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Senator from Tennessee, and she talked to me about big tech and a whole range of issues, including how to clean up state elections. And here it is for you right now, all right here at SEPAK with Senator Marsha Blackburn, Senator. Great to see you, thanks for joining to say you and I'm

delighted to join you. Major focus here so far, and I know all through the weekend it's going to be big tech, and both from the context of what they're doing to us here at home and also what it means for big tech in China specifically how they're coming after us. But let me start with the big tech challenge here in America. It feels like freedom of speech is under more threat now from technology companies than at any time that I can think of in my lifetime

at least. Well, absolutely it is under threat. And you've got big tech, big media, and the big Left, and they are all in cahoots on this to try to silence conservatives and what they can't do through legislation, the left is trying to have big tech do that work

for them. And then you've got Democrat legislators this week that sent a letter to the FCC and to certain streaming organizations, cable companies, media outlets trying to get them to drop conservative programming, and they named by name Fox One, American News and Newsmax. And the thing they're guilty of is giving a balanced point counterpoint opening for robust discussion. So, yes, I've got the Virtual You Protection Agenda. We are pushing

this through. It's going to deal with four things. Online privacy, reforming Section to thirty, data security, and also antitrust. Now, what are the prospects for getting any actual movement on that given the current composition of Congress. Actually, you've got privacy online. Privacy has had bipartisan support. I've had that bill since twenty twelve, and it does have bipartisan support.

There is agreement that we should address section two thirty and clean up the language so that you remove terms like the term otherwise objectionable, which is what big tech hides behind when they go in and censure people. And there is agreement that there should be a review of antitrust provisions in relation to companies like Google. And do you think big tech should be broken up? I think that it is the worthy discussion to have. But here's

the thing. If you go in and execute privacy, which gives you the ability to say, big Tech, you cannot track me follow me, data mind me, or share or sell my information without my explicit consent, and you can't bump me off your platform. If I don't give that consent, then what you do is reduce the number of eyeballs. So you want to do that first because that somewhat reshapes their marketplace. Then you want to exercise the section

to thirty reforms that reshapes. You want to define on data breach and data security and put a specific amount of time on that so they have to tell you in like two days, not two weeks or two years if they've had a data breach. Then see where that gets you, and then move to antitrust as the last

component if that legislation we're to go through. Are you confident that the purge of conservatives from the digital public square that has been underway, kicking people quite honestly like me off of different platforms at times you're a sitting US senator even even more shocking when you think about this, are you confident that that will be enough to create the free speech grounds that we need this legislation it

goes a long way in sending a message. And then the other thing is we the people have to be the people on protecting our rights and if they take the first, if the left gets rid of the first Amendment, then you know they're coming for the second and right on down the list. So it is going to be imperative that people start holding to account some of these

tech platforms. It is going to be imperative that they talk about it when they get blocked or throttled or shatter band or demonetized or d platform and begin to bring that out in the open. You also focus a lot on China and the challenge that China poses for US on national security, economic trade grounds. Right, what can we do now considering that there's a reset underway with this Biden administration, What are you pushing for and what are your concerns about how US China policy may shift.

I'm very concerned about it because if you want to take it by different stovepipes with China, look at what they're doing with Huawei. We have to keep them on the Entities List, which blocks them from selling into the USA. They embed their technology with spyware. We have to make

certain that we continue the Trump policies on China. He understood China, and he understood they really practice rob replicate and replace, which is taking our technology, our intellectual property, reverse engineering or producing it, and then driving US companies out of the marketplace so that they're the sole source for some product that you want. So we need to

continue Trump's policies in that area. You have to look at what is happening with human rights violations with Hong Kong and the freedom fighters and the Tibetans and the Taiwanese and the South China seas, and then the genocide of the weakers that are there, and say to international organizations you cannot admit them. The fact that Biden has gone back to the who is disgusting. That is something

that emboldens China. And on the election integrity issue, which it feels like hopefully we can begin to speak about again without fear of that triggering all kinds of algorithms of censorship and cries of outrage. What would you like to see at the state level done and at the federal level, how do we clean things up so that there's greater Because we know all the data, all the polling shows confidence in the election is a problem with many, many,

many millions of Americans. What can we do to change that? And that has to be done at the state and local level. The federal government cannot do that. And we do not want federally controlled elections. The Constitution gives that to the state and the subdivisions of the state, so we want it to stay there. But I would say to every one of your listeners, go to the election commission in your county and ask them when it's the last time you purged the voter rolls. Do you need help?

Do you need volunteer years to help check addresses, check deaths, check people that have moved out of the county so that these roles are clean. Do you need help validating signatures? Do you need election day workers? And get involved with that. That's how that's how we fix this. You have to be sure that the roles are accurate before you mail the ballots out or before you open the voter rolls. And this year, what happened. You had some houses that

got five, six, seven ballots. You have some people that had moved out of state, been out of Georgia for five years, and what happened They got a ballot in the mail to their forwarded address. Senator Marshall Blackburn, thanks so much for Tom. We appreciate it, get to be with you. Thank you. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Join the conversation and message Buck on Facebook, Instagram, or email team Bucket iHeartMedia dot com. You read it on

the show. So I can sporadically sexually harass someone as long as I don't go so far as it becomes pervasive. No, it is a terrible legal standard, and it has to be changed, and it has to be changed now. That is the action that the revelation in the exposures dictate as the only rational conclusion. You've exposed the wrongdoing. Now do something about it. Now do something about it. Governor Cuomo talking to you about holding people account of off

a sexual harassment. Here's the problem, Governor Cuomo now has a second accuser who has come forward saying that he has sexually harassed her. Oh okay, So when it was an opportunity with the cameras on him to be mister preening me too, male feminist Cuomo. That was from years ago. By the way that that clip, Cuomo was all, what do you mean you could only sexually arrass on occasion? You can't do it at all. That's not good. Don't do it. You should have an accountability here, except now

he's the guy. He's the guy. But here's my biggest takeaway for you, all right, because I know how people are going to focus so much on the sexual harassment stuff with Cuomo. I see some nefarious stuff going on here that I don't think is getting the focus that it should. Governor Cuomo in New York is just one obvious example of the enormous fraud the media conducted against America to defeat Trump in twenty twenty. They turned villains

into heroes and tyranny into freedom. Cuomo, Fauci, the Lincoln Project, school closures, anything was justified to be Trump. Anything, right, whatever they had to say, whoever they had to run cover for, or whatever they had to do, they were willing to do. And I think that you need to understand that. And they were even, I mean, they were even willing to hold up the Lincoln Project for Heaven's sake, as some kind of a group that people should should

pay attention to and listen to. I mean, it's it's it's awful when you look deeper in this, it's awful. It really is. The Lincoln Project and all these other things. But now they're turning around and they're saying, oh, well, we're gonna hold Cuomo to account. He served his purpose, don't you see. And the bigger scandal is actually the nursing home scandal. Oh I know, I know't Buck, but this look, he didn't. He didn't actually you know, sexually

assault anybody. From what we understand right now, he didn't do it. He didn't break any criminal laws. But it seems that he is a you know, a kind of a sexist in the workplace who says inappropriate thing to subordinates. And oh no, I'm sorry, no, they're pardon me, I retract. There was an allegation that he, you know, tried an uninvited uh you know, try to like force himself in a kissing way on a subordinate. So I take that so he did actually cross that boundary of physical you know,

making a sort of a physical move. Now I'm sure he would say that he thought, you know, And then we get into this conversation about all right, I mean, sometimes you know, a guy goes in, he thinks that he's been given the sign. He's not given the sign. But not your boss. It's not supposed to be your boss, right, They weren't on a date. They weren't. You know, he wasn't handing her a rose after a romantic candle at dinner in front of her apartment and thought that. You know,

he got the ghost sign. This is an employee. So Cuomo's got some trouble. He's now said that he's doing the usual kind of dance er. He says, well, you know, I may have said some things that may have made some people uncomfortable. You know that that's basically worries. You know, I may I may have said a thing that made a person feel bad about a thing he's not saying. Yeah, I'm a slimy creep. But this guy's had problems with women for a very long time. It's been well known.

And he's a bully and a jerk and nobody likes him. But yet Democrats keep voting for him. Hm, isn't that so interesting? They want to lecture us on character all the time, don't they. Oh, look at Trump and he's so bad about this or that, but they keep electing

people like Cuomo. Really, but I'm sorry, I'm not going to take my focus off of what I think is still the much, the much bigger look sexually harassing female employees who are your subordinates is a bad thing, and he shouldn't do it, and he should be held response

before it. Sending people with COVID nineteen into nursing homes with the obvious knowledge that that's going to increase the risk of other seniors in the nursing homes when thousands of thousands of people are dying from COVID enteen, that's a Can we all agree that's a bigger issue? Can we all agree that's a more important issue. That's not to say it's not an issue the sexual ressment. It's a bigger issue. But I'm bringing these things up because

notice that now the media wants to congratulate itself. I've seen something. The media wants to congratulate itself on the willingness to report on this. The media wants to congratulate itself on their ability to see this and say, oh, yeah, we're we're actually telling you the truth about Governor Cuomo. And to that I just have to say, well, well, hold on a second here, folks, Hold on a minute. This was known that the COVID nineteen disaster with Cuomo

was known way before this. Uh you know, sexual harassment stuff came out and the media covered it up. Why did they do that, because, as I've said to you, that was that was an even more important story. They didn't want to cover that, and it was conservative media outlets that were actually pushing these stories. Of course, in the election year, Cuomo got loppy. Cuomo got a little too full of himself. You know why, because he realized,

this is what everything he's been doing last year. He realized that he was given the anti Trump cloak of media invincibility, and he was enjoying it a little too much. And that's what the the Emmy and the book and all this stuff. He started to believe his press releases, you know, he started to believe the bs that he was putting out there for everybody else. And you know, now there may be finally a reckoning, although I'm not confident it will happen. Yeah, Democrats are calling for an

investigation of this. Cuomo is gonna say, sure, investigate me. He's Ultimately if Cuomo says, you know, I said some things I probably shouldn't have said a little bit appropriate, sorry about that, doesn't resign you think they think that anything's gonna happen to him. You think the Democrats would even support a primary against the third term governor, I don't think so. I don't think that they want to

get rid of him even now. But just remember this, while he was of maximum utility, when he was most useful to the Democrats, they protected him at all costs. They held him up. He was a villain and they made him into a hero. That was their approach. That's what they were doing. And I don't think we should let that go out. I don't think we should think we should allow people to to pretend that isn't what happened,

because it is what happened. He was a villain, and they lied to all of us about an essential area of public health and public policy to beat Trump, anything to beat Trump. That was the strategy. So they don't get any credit now, they don't get any late you know, late extra points or anything, because this story is now broken, and they're they're acting like they care about you know

me too stuff and all this other. No, when it really mattered, they covered for him when it really could have done the maximum amount of public benefit to expose what was going on with this guy, they had nothing. And then there's also just this this liberal mentality of yeah, you know, your governor, you send thousands of people to their debts and nursing homes and then lie about it and then are tyrant and threatened people who try to expose it. Yeah, that's not good, but you know, we

had to beat Trump. But say the wrong thing to a few female employees who come out, you know, then then all of a sudden they're outraged beyond words. It shows you a lot of their priorities, a lot of their priorities. That's for sure, certainly not all the truth. It's certainly not getting to the bottom of what's really going on here. But Governor Cuomo is finally in. He's finally in some hot water, finally not able to just get out of this. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast.

Follow fuck on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. So what now? We heard President Trump tell us his vision for the GOP going forward, how he's going to continue to fight, what does this look like in practice, and what can we all do to be a part of it. We've got Pedro Gonzalez with us now. He is an assistant editor at American Greatness and a Chronicles magazine contributor. Pedro, great to have you back. I was going to be here.

Thanks for having me back on Buck. So tell me what do you view as the as the Trump, the Trump roadmap, or the Trump Well, actually, let's start with this. What is his role going to be in all of this? He didn't say he's running. What do you think's happening here? Well, I'll start by saying that the most important thing Trump did was affecting a change in the way we think

and talk about certain issues in twenty sixteen. But as far as I can tell, Sepack and other recent events, Kell's cast doubt on whether he can, he can or

should carry that torch forward. And I think that his ideal role would be as a kingmaker, someone who, with the help of people who are truly aligned with the concept of America, first working to promote candidates to change the Republican Party from the inside, because he's made it clear he doesn't support a third party, and he claims to want to reform the GOP, which in theory that that is a good idea and it's I think the

thing that Trump could do the most damage with. But he's not doing that, and instead he's actually trying to do both. It seems he's hinted at a run in twenty twenty four, which I think would be a mistake, and he's also he's playing kingmaker, but it's it's not

really clear. It's well, I should be more frank. His endorsements are not good so far, and it actually shows that I think he's still very pliable to influence from people who are not aligned with America first, people like Mitch McConnell, probably even members of his family like Jared Kushner. And I think this comes into view acutely if you look at people like Jerry Moran in Kansas and James

Timkin in Ohio. You know, now I appreciate Payther. You're you're giving us an honest assessment of all this because I've spoken and including at Seepack, but I've spoken to people who with you know, without attribution or off the record, depending on who it was, have all given me a similar message, which is the top people around Trump, or some of the top I should say, some of the top people around Trump when he was in office, are willing to say now that there were horrible personnel choices

made at the very highest level and that some of those horrible personnel choices did result in failings or failures of implementation of the Trump agenda as he ran in

twenty sixteen. So so what I'm I'm hopeful going forward that we can have a a conversation as conservatives where you don't just have people screaming maga in everyone's face, as if that solves the issue here, because I want to be you know, I'm enthusiastic about the future, or I should say I'm optimistic about it, and I agree with you about twenty sixteen and what Trump was saying then to the degree one can be. But I think we also have to be honest about what did not

work or what did not get done. And also the fact that Trump Trump lost this election, right, and I think people still have you know, when he stands up there and says, you know, I'll beat them again. I know he's saying because of the changes and everything goes in the fraud, but it was a loss. It still goes down in the books as an l right now. That has not changed, and we need to understand how and why that happened and not just think, oh, the

next here's here's what I'll say. If we were on the twenty twenty playbook again in four years, Trump will lose that I'm very confident on I think so. I think that's right, and I think the way that I have framed this to people who also double down, you know, Trump won and it was just fraud. That's the reason he's not president right now. The way I'll frame it

is this, look, if he lost legitimately, he lost. If he lost because he did not take precautions ahead of the election, although there were all these morning signs the same as you. I'm not going to name names, but I was in contact with people in the White House and I asked them, like, did you guys know that

that something like this was going to happen? And the answer I got was yeah, there were red flags, like we were aware that there was something going on, that Democrats were changing rules for voting in critical areas and things like that. But the view of the administration was we're going to win in such a huge landslide that we can slam through anything that happens, like we're just going to basically brute force break the wall. And obviously

that didn't happen. So in either case, Trump lost, either legitimately or because of a failure of planning and personnel, because the people around him also apparently this is like how most of them were thinking, like, oh, that's you know, this is such an unstoppable machine that, you know, whatever they throw it as, we're just going to crush. That didn't happen. So another case he lost. And the question

is did he learn from that? You know, if he doesn't want to think that he lost legitimately, okay, fine, but does he acknowledge that the people around him mislet him, that they gave him the wrong information, that they lulled him into a false sense of security. Does he acknowledge that? And is he willing to make a fundamental change in

his personnel philosophy? His endorsements suggests no, and who he's aligning him himself with recently also suggests no. Like I think that one of the big ones is like Kevin McCarthy, who he's chosen as like his post presidency wingman, McCarthy was instrumental in saving Liz Cheney's hide, who then after he saved her, she turns around and basically condemns McCarthy

for his for his affiliation with Trump. And then you know, McConnell does this strange one eighty where he goes from basically trying to burn the Trump House down to basically saying, I fully support Trump running in twenty twenty four. So there's there's some kind of like horse trading that's going on beyond behind the scenes, which boils down to Trump willing to compromise with people who are like establishment people who we otherwise don't really want to have a lot

of influence over policy going forward. And I worry we're speaking, we're speaking of Pedro Gonzalez of American greatness, and Pedro. I worried that the the promise of Trump, or the the idea of Trump at this stage now might in the minds of a lot of people. I mean, yeah, the Sea Pack Straw poll had Trump at like seventy percent or something of people want to Trump to run again.

And I just hope that everyone understands that, you know, he didn't win this election, Okay, so we all need to stop thinking that, you know, oh, well, he's clearly going to win the next one, because he actually won this one. When I say he didn't win, I'm saying, by the way, people always come back to this. You don't think there was. They'll say that you don't think there was fraud. I'm like, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying, who is president? Now, Okay, that's what I'm saying.

That this was a This was a contest between two two political candidates. One of them is president, the other is not. And the idea that if we just do the same kind of thing, or we put the same candidate forward with the same I mean, look, I'll say this is what he said yesterday. Some of the stuff about Biden was good. Some of the things that were said, um, you know over the weekend at Sea pack by Trump were good. But a lot of it you say, well, this is kind of the stump speech he was giving

in twenty twenty. And you know, there's so much a seapack was focused on big tech. I see it, and I tell people, Okay, Trump had some great tweets about big tech, he talked about it. Republicans didn't do a damn thing when they could about big tech. We need to be honest about that. Yes, that's exactly right. And it's difficult, right because we're trying to separate the man from the movement or see the two things independent of each other. And that's difficult because Trump the man is

so intimately associated with the movement. But this is this is blinding, I think, because you start to lose sight of what is really happening and you instead get hyper focused on basically just the rhetoric and the tweets. So to your point about Trump complaining about tech censorship, Trump gave a direct line of communication to Silicon Valley to the White House through the Office of American Innovation, like

Tim Cook, Apple, the CEO of Google. All of these people who are now crushing conservatives online were able to go in and out of the White House and in like consult with people like Avanca Trump over policy. Tim Cook was able to actually prevent h ONEB reform in twenty seventeen by working through the Office of American through the OAI with Jared Kushner and like his to and they were basically able to convince Trump to not do

HMB visa reform in twenty seventeen. So to your point, like, we have to see things clearly, and Trump could serve a really good role by, like I said, giving the nod to worthwhile candidates, but instead he's trying to do both things, and it doesn't look like he's going to

do both either thing. Well, yeah, I'm I'm also I'm trying to get everyone understand this because you know, even early on, I was a critic of the of the you can't have your kids in the White House as senior advisors thing, and I got a lot of pushback from the MAGA faithful about this because they would say, well, he needs people he could trust. And I understand the desire to want to find a way to not you know, people were very excited about Trump and they you know,

the promise of trumps them and all this stuff. But I understood how this would actually work in practice. And now again to conversations I had, including at Seepack with people whose names everybody listening to this would know, but I was speaking them off the record about it and the way it worked in practice for everybody understands like why I don't have I don't I have no personal problem with like Jared Kushner, for example, It's not it's

I know how these things go. And if you you know, disagreed with Jared on criminal justice or form, which by the way, was the approach to BLM in the summer twenty twenty was a disaster, and Jared had had his fingerprints all over that. The Trump white House was trying to initially trying to be conciliatory and concede, and there was all this that was a disaster. But if you if you were a vocal voice saying don't do this, well, then Jared just shut you out from the from actual

access to the president on everything else. There's what people who do understand. So he was in a position to say, oh, you're not gonna go with me on this thing, well, then on you know, your trade agenda, or on or on immigration, you don't get to you don't get to see the president, you don't have the presidency here, or

he'll even undermine that person with the president. That's the way it was actually working in that White House, right right, and this and again, like you said, this is not about picking a fight with one individual who happens to be Trump's son in law. This is like personnel's policy. We say that all the time, but I don't think we really appreciate how much like what that actually means.

And this is the worst case study of that of delegating to someone like this who really kind of operated like a prime minister, and like I personally knew really really good people among the very few who are really close to the president, and we're really competent and totally

aligned with us in terms of America first. And this is what they experienced when they would voice oppositions to things that Kushner and his associates would want to do, Like he would notice that he wouldn't get attached to emails anymore, or they wouldn't get called to meetings anymore. Like, this is a real thing, and I don't think people understand it enough, and if you bring it up, it's

kind of dismissed. It's like, well, that's a secondary concern. Well, no, it's not, because personnel like who you have on staff is going to define the agenda in reality, Like forget about the rhetoric like the law and order tweets and all that stuff. Personnel is going to decide what you'll actually get out of an administration, out of a candidate. I totally agree. We're speaking of Pedro Gonzalez. He's an

American greatness. So Pedro, I just I'm trying to find a way to speak to people across the country about. You know, my hope here is that we will have a Trump machinery, Trump machinery ideology, ideas movement, but that it isn't all wrapped around what because I mean, I've said this, his his age is a real factor here, and people I know don't like to hear that, but you know, he's going to be Joe Biden's age the

next time around. And I said Joe Biden was too old, and I think he is too old, you know, so I think that's a concern. Health can deteruriate very rapidly. And I say desuriate, I don't mean anything ter happening, but I just mean, you know, you slow down, you get more tired. That's what happens when you get close

to being eighty years old. And I worry that people are still so emotionally invested in Trump that nothing else will be acceptable to them, and that we'll be leading the Republican Party off a cliff essentially unless we kind of figure out that's the way is not to put out all the eggs in the in the Trump as

person basket. Right. No, that's exactly right. And I think that it's I found that it's often the case that when people ask you, well, if not Trump, then who, And my answer is someone like the Santis, or Josh Holly or even Tom Cotton. These are all people I'm critical of. I don't think there is such a thing as a perfect political candidate, but I think that there

are alternatives. But it's often the case that what I'll here in response is like, you know, those candidates will somehow fall short of Trump, and the argument is always Trump's celebrity, like that Trump's celebrity is the most important as back to Trump. I don't think that's actually a good argument because what you're saying is and often the criticisms of like the Santas, Hollycock, whatever whatever criticisms you make of them, they can also apply to Trump. And

so it always boils down to his celebrity. That's not good because what you're kind of what you're unwittingly admitting, is that it's based exclusively on his personality and nothing like, nothing substantive, and that's that's really not a good place

to be. I hope we can continue to have this conversation among Republicans, Conservatives, all the goop faithful out there, and everyone realize that it's one that needs to happen, folks, because you know, it's I know it's it's kind of like a exciting line of people to hear, you know, for Trump to say I'll win a third time. He didn't win the second time, and we need to figure

out if he's gonna run again. We got to make sure he wins the next time, all right, And and that's going to require a lot of preparation, conversation, and even a little bit of soul searching with thin the goop for what's really going on on here. But let's let's make sure we check out American greatness. Our friend Pedro Gonzalez writing there. Pedro, thanks so much for joining us, Thanks for having you're in the Freedom Height. Thanks for listening to The Buck Sexton Show podcast. Get the latest

from Buck at buck Sexton dot com. Boston Public schools suspend advanced academic program due to racial equity concerns. You're going to see more of this. Democrats push this idea all the time. Now, this was from the College Fixed dot com. But it's a story. It's been all over the place, a lot of people covering this one last few days. The Boston Public school system is getting rid of an advanced learning program for four fifth and sixth graders because who wants to guess, too many white and

Asian students, too many white and Asian students. It's not good, not allowed, not allowed. It's a problem. This was they're telling you. They're saying it's a problem. And this is something that comes up in other contexts too. I always tell you about the story that happens. Well, it's really an ongoing story, but it'll get a bunch of attention

every couple of years. Where the most elite public school in New York City called Stevesant High School, is something like seventy percent plus Asian, and there is it's a there's a small, a much smaller percentage of the school is black and Latino than is representative of the New York City population. And so they they say this is

a problem. But instead of addressing, well, how do we work in more work at more predominantly black and Latino schools to get more students into into the school, what they do is they say, no, the issue is, let's just change it at the end. Let's just give the benefits. Let's treat everybody as though they've achieved the same degree of academic academic excellence when that's clearly not the case. That's what equity means. Equity means at the end, it's

it's equality of result. And increasingly Democrats have transition to that. And I think that's a large part because so many of their programs meant to address equality issues have been unsuccessful. Right, they've been unsuccessful that it hasn't really changed. And so what they do is they treat this. They treat merit as essentially an identity politics spoils system, you know, So

merit isn't really a thing. There's just what do different groups get and how do we and how can we distribute that to make those groups happier and give us political power. It's not about what does any individual earn. It's not about having principles. It's just, well, we're going to have more of a giveaway to this group than that group because we want them to vote for us. It's very, very damaging for society, and they do this. Democrats keep coming up against this in cities across the country.

They won't address the real issues and real concerns and real ways to work with this. Nope, they just want to change the numbers around so that they feel good about the end result and call it equity. This is the Buck Sexton Chow Podcast. Follow Buck on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. The show ain't over yet, folks. It's time for roll call. Alright, roll call everyone. Let's get into it right away here and we've got roll call for sure, Kent. Alright,

it's Tucker. You are the best courtesy of Mark's joke making me choke on my beverage. See Mark, this is what you've done. Now now everyone thinks this is so funny. Now they keep calling me Tucker. That's fantastic. Did people come up to you and see back and do it? Because no nobody came. Oh we did somebody. I don't know. Maybe the first day I was super I had for no apparent reason. The first night I was in Florida,

I was really happy to be down there. Actually, you know, my had I had a comfortable bed, you know, everything was fine. I could not sleep a wink. I have no idea why. Total complete insombidia my first night down in Florida. So I was like walking around. If you saw me that first what was it Thursday, folks of Seapack, I looked like I was, you know, one foot out of the grave because I felt just man. When you don't get a night's sleep. The next day you're just

like man like I was mummy walking around. It was not good, and I had to do a show and all kinds of interviews and stuff. But I got through it because I'm the Buckster. That's how we roll right more. Absolutely, even though you're always tired, you still do a good show. Yeah. Thanks, that's right. Yeah, So we got through it. But no people, people are the Tucker joke. I appreciate it. It's fine, Pablo,

hey buck. I was thinking about the difference between the Trump first one hundred days and the Biden first days. Trump was being land based with how racist he is, and he was giving billionaires a big tax break. This tax break led to many companies giving raises or bonuses to their employees. As a small business owner, this was welcome and our employees received well deserved raises. Day one. Biden has created a large hole in the oil industry,

causing many high paying jobs to be lost. Living in Alaska, we had waited for years to open anwar, but again day one of the Biden administration, it was closed so much for governing for every American. The actions of President did benefit a lot of Americans, or President Trump did benefit a lot of Americans. So far, Biden has hurt a lot of people, most of whom are either right leaning or work in a very right leaning industry. Shields High, Yeah, Pablo,

That's what I've been saying. It's not even like the stuff that Biden is doing. I disagree with, but I recognize it's going to be great for a lot of people, or it's going to give a really clear, worthwhile benefit to the American people. Overall. A lot of what Biden's done is very narrow, very self interested for him politically, but but for special interests, and that's really what they're what their main concern is, that's really what they're most

focused on. Richard Buck. Do you remember how back of the day the commedist Russians would give their female Olympic athletes testosterone and steroids to give them the advantage. Sometimes the rumors said that the commie woman athletes were really men dressed as women. The West, especially America, would denounce it and mock the commies. How do we go from that to this transgender sports madness of today? Why is it not mocked with the same fervor. This is not

swords that identify as shields high Richard. I do remember people talking a lot about and pointing out the clear unfairness of I think it was like the East German swim team or something in particular. People would say, and where they would have athletes, you'd say, is that person really female? And there are cases, and it's worth noting that there are people who are biologically have some of a gender crossover situation, but that's not what transgenderism. Transgenderism

is a psychological, purely psychological reality. It's not there's no physical You do not have to have any physical manifestation of anything to be considered transgender. So remember that it's a different thing to talk about the rare cases where there are some of the reproductive organs of both sexes present that can happen. I forge there's a term that people use for it what I want, but that's not

the term people like to use anymore. If there's another, I think I think it's intersects might be the way they do. I think that's how it's described now properly described. But yeah, the reason Richard, to answer your question about transgender athletes and why this is not being made fun of the way that would have had passed. It's because

it's now considered part of a civil rights crusade. So what the left believes is that if you have a problem with transgender this is what the true hardcore left believes. If you have a problem with transgender you know, track and field, um, you know, athletes, let's say, you are really no different, uh than than somebody that had, you know, a problem with you know, women, women in the workplace or something. I mean, you're you're a bigot, You're somebody

who was you know. It's it's not that different in the left's mind from saying, you know, being opposed to interracial marriage even or something. They view this as as part of a moral crusade and they're on the right side and anybody who is opposed to them is on the wrong side. And that's definitely, um, that definitely for them, transgender all transgender issues. So just when you when you put it in that context, I think you can understand much more clearly why the left viewses the way they do,

even though there'll be obvious manifestations of it. Like a guy, you know, a biological male who's much larger, stronger, and faster than females comically so, and we've seen examples of this already, and we'll win all these different trophies and events and things that that that is clear, we can all see it. It doesn't matter, it's worth the absurdity of it because it's it's a civil rights struggle. That's

how they see this. And they've used civil rights struggles as as on all sort of the same moral plane too. They've used civil rights struggles as you know, once it's under that banner, it's all the same moral imperative is behind it. So just noting that's why I also want to take a moment. I really appreciate it and how many people came up to me and had really nice

things to say about the radio show at Seatpack. I know that people listening to this on whatever two hundred stations something like that across the country and a vast, a vast majority probably you know, one in a thousand people listening to this. Actually we're at Seapack. But it really was nice, Especially these days it feels pretty isolating to be a conservative in New York City and to be able to see folks who came up to me and they wanted to take photos and everything else. It's

it's really appreciate it, that's all. And I mean that I was think it's so funny when people feel a little hesitant. They're like, hey, kend of, is it okay? Of course you like my radio show. I put my I pour my life into this thing. It's like I sit here at the radio mic and open a vein for three hours every day. So if you're getting utility out of it, if it entertains you, if it informs you,

that's the best. I mean. I love hearing that. So and people who also called me and say that this is now that I am I am now their favorite radio show. And a lot of people said that that I am I am now their favorite radio show. You know, that was very meaningful. So I appreciated that too, and I hope you will help spread the word. Thomas Buck love you and listen every day. Thanks for keeping me safe and warm at night. Their day, you gave a

kind of backhanded dismissal of President Trump's tax cuts. Well, I understand the point you're making regarding what elle should have been accomplished. I do believe downplaying of the tax cuts is misleading. Just yesterday you were bragging about the economy President Trump passed on to his successor. But the very foundation of this economic boom was those tax cuts along with the deregulation. Just a thought, please keep up the great work, Thomas. I think that's fair. I think

you understand the context in which I said it. Obviously liked and support the tax cuts. But you know, now, now I'll come with the other side of this, you know, the the other side of the coin. Here, Democrats trying to make structural, long term changes to economics, to healthcare, immigration, Republicans fiddle with the tax rate. That doesn't mean that fiddling with the tax rate is an important it is, but it is temporary and so there's always a limitation

on this that we deal with. And I think that Trump on the economy and a lot of ways what he actually deregulation was good, although those regulations are coming back, but it was just a pro business attitude that he was not looking to punish capitalists for doing, you know, for running their businesses to make a profit. And you look at the Obama administration before them, and yeah, if you're big tax I mean they're companies that Democrats favor.

Big business and big government like each other. They go hand in hand. But when you start to look more at some of the other things that that Trump could have done, I think that there were some missues. Look, you know, okay, yeah, the economy was good for now, it's not you know, I mean it's and I say it's not, I mean weird lockdowns. There's a lot of things going on right now that are that are distorting the situation. But there needed to be more done than

just tax cuts. I guess Thomas's and I think you know what I was saying on that. But your point is fair and that you know, I could say tax cuts were not enough, but that's not to say tax cuts were not good, and I should be I should maintain that balance. Tax cuts were good, but we needed more than that. Eric love your show. I find myself using your voice imitations when making fun of libs with

co workers. I'm up in North Idaho where we have a mask mandate imposed by some unelected officials at the local health department. Very few people comply. The sheriff announced that they will not enforce it. I can go anywhere that I want except Costco without a mask. We even have full restaurants where employees do not wear masks. On the flip side, I work across the border in Washington, where everything is still more or less shut down. Everyone in Washington drives over to Idaho to go to bars

shop without a mask. We also have better COVID numbers than the county in Washington. My son has been in preschool this whole time with zero precautions, no kids with masks, no teachers with masks, no plexic glass, nothing, zero COVID cases at his school. These Blue states are out of their mind. I don't know how you do it. Keep up the fight, Eric, Yeah, look I pre first, I'll appreciate you like the show. And second of all, I'll just say that, yeah that the Democrats, this is not

they're not doing this. It's not a reality based world they're living in. This is not rooted in what is best, This is not rooted in what is um you know the facts driving this. This is politics now. And I will say in Florida yet, people they everyone was kind of like, all right, yeah, mask mandate, but it was like, you know, put it on when you can. We know

it's not perfect. Don't worry about it. You know they were, they're The added was very different and much more sane than the attitude that you get in um New York City, where where people view you as a moral monster. If you've if you're in violation of a mask statute, like you're you're putting them I'm being serious with you. You're Their attitude, the overwhelming attitude of New York City is oh my gosh, you're supposed to have a mask on and you don't. You are putting my life at risk.

That's really what they think. In Florida, even we were at Sea Packet Orlando at the Hyatt, and I give high credit for not not bending the knee of the the outrage mob that came out for them, because that did happen too. But you know, we're in in Florida and the high it didn't didn't bend the knee, but you had people were standing around with mask up, signs up and stuff like that. But I'll say that at least and a couple of times I was told put the pull my mask up because I had to pull

it down for photos and things. Uh, it just was far less intense and just more reasonable maybe people need to calm down, but they won't because they won't calm down till Fauci tells them it's okay. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Join the conversation and message Buck on Facebook, Instagram, or email Team Bucket iHeartMedia dot com. He may read it on the show next up, Hey Buck, I was glad to hear your take on the Terminator movies the other day. I agree there was only the

first Terminator and T two. These supposed subsequent movies do not need to exist because they were awful and T two ended it perfectly. Twenty years later, I still think T two is my favorite action movie of all time, possibly tied with True Lies. Arnold put out some good stuff in his day. Can you have the good work on the great movie taste? Well, Ethan, clearly you have

great movie taste, So let's let's start with that. Thank you so much for writing in and I A True Lies is a little silly, a little too silly for me in some parts, like a little too absurd. I know it's a kind of action comedy, but you know where they had the person on the missile getting fired at the other and I'm like, come on do we have to Is it really going to be that silly? It's it got a little a little crazy meat that

I'm just gonna say. T two is a fantastic A plus action movie that definitely belongs in the top ten all time, and you could certainly make the case is the number. You can make a case it is the number one action movie of all time. So I'm with you. I'm with you on all that. Producer Mark, have we asked if you have a favorite action movie? Huh? I probably do, I just off the top of my head. It's hard to save the best action movie I've ever seen. I've seen a lot of them. Yeah, there's a lot

of good action movies out there. I feel like as a genre, it's died down a little bit. You don't have quite the same kind of guys with giant muscles running around with machine guns shooting all the bad guys movies you used to have. There's still some of that, but there's a lot less. Brian, I hope you enjoyed Sepac. Really wish I could be there. I work remotely in PA and I've been very irate with the handling of the pandemic and election. My Governor Tom Wolfe not quite

as bad as Cuomo New York. Wolf is out at the end of next year. If you see your buddy Sean Parnell down there, see if you'd throw it down his hat in the ring for Pennsylvania governor. We need to turn this Pennsylvania back to a Republican run state. I know Sean would win well, Brian, I love that idea. I would. I would back Sean Parnell for governor with everything I had, just like I tried with his congressional seat. Sean would be a great governor for the state of Pennsylvania. Actually,

I'll raise it with him. I don't know Sean. Sean's gonna run again for something and he's gonna win, so he'll he'll it's just a matter of time before he's a a an elected Republican that's pursuing a MAGA agenda and doing so as a also a former combat veteran, best selling author, etc. And you guys all know Sean's a good friend of mine. He's he's a great, great dude, and I think he'd be an excellent ex governor, excellent congressman,

you name it. So I will pass that along all right, Daniel, Hey, oss, where is our furry comrade COMMI bear a quick question? Can we please start calling Biden uncle Joe? It's a perfect nickname for him. I don't think ours is quite as communist as the original, but I could see people saying, well, certainly uncle Joe doesn't know it's this bad. Added to that, ours is imitating the original by clearing the military people who are politically undesirable as always, shields high and never forget.

It's all the reflexes, Daniel, I hear you on commy Bear. I don't know. I've thought about trying to bring him back, but it's he's he's difficult to work with. It's not an easy thing those who are original saturirest Squad. Do you know what I'm talking about? The rest of the country's like a buck having some kind of a some kind of a psychological break with reality. But I'm definitely considering it, Daniel. I've been considering it for years, as

some people know. But it might happen as for Uncle Joe. Yeah, I kind of I kind of think that I see you're saying. Not that many people know that Stalin was referred to by FDR's Uncle Joe. So I don't know if everybody would catch the reference, but I like where your head's at on it team. Good to be back in the Freedom Hut, not on the road. Thanks for being here with me. Please do spread the word about the podcast Past the Buck. Tell them listen to Buck Sexton show Shield's High.