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Democrats Panic Over 2020

May 06, 20191 hr 45 min
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An Iranian plot to strike U.S.? The IG report is coming, it will be a bad day for Democrats. Buck interviews Shannon Bream, Tony Shaffer and Dovid Efune. 

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You are entering the freedom huge lot of national security stories heating up, a possible Iranian plot to strike at US interests or allies the Middle East, of course, the exchange of missiles and response between Israel and Hamas and Palestinian Islamic jihad. Is Maduro going to be out in Venezuela? And then do the Democrats have a serious contender yet of the twenty or so to take President Trump's place

in the next election. We'll break down what's happened with Biden and Harris and all the rests coming up on the Buck Sexon Show. This is the bus Sexon Show where the mission or mission is to decode what really matters with passionable intelligence. Make no mistakes here a great American again the Buck Sexton Show begins. He's a great guy. No, Welcome to the Buck Sexton Show. Everybody, Thank you so much for being here. I hope you had a fantastic weekend. We got a lot to get to you today, a

lot of national security stuff. Will be joined by my friend David fun and then Tony Shay, Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer's We've got much much to discuss. But there was a little bit of a of a panic, I think in some of the Democrat quarters here in the Swamp and across the country more broadly, at the recognition that if things continue as they are right now, Trump's gonna win. He's gonna win. He's got an approval rating today, according to Gallup, at a new high of forty six percent.

And you look at what's happened with the economy under the president, and then you start to juxtapose that, you compare that to what the Democrats told us was going to happen if in fact Trump became president, and not only is it not a disaster, but it has actually been incredibly strong. Things are going very very well. And so there's a struggle on the left to find some narrative.

Why should people be so dissatisfied with this president? You've got one point two million more job openings than unemployed in the country. What are people supposed to What are people supposed to come up with as the storyline of why this is so awful? You know? How do the Democrats sell this idea to people that Trump needs to go, we need to put Bernie Sanders in place. Would you risk I mean, I really ask you would you risk

the value of your home. Would you risk the strength of your four oh one k your healthcare plan on Bernie Sanders being a better steward of the economy at this point than Donald Trump. Could any serious person really make that case right now? I think at least maybe a serious person could, but it wouldn't be a very

serious case. That's where we are, and that's why when you look at the candidates for the the Democrat candidate that are lining up, I think a lot of them are just trying to play a bit to the left wing base to get enough of a number going that they're in contention. But they don't yet have the narrative. They don't yet have the storyline as to why they should

why they should replace Trump. Some of them may have really been hoping all along that the Mueller probe was going to do their work for them, that Trump would be so damaged when that report was finally released that it wouldn't be necessary to have a compelling Why why should somebody vote for any of these Democrats that are aspiring to run against Trump over the current president? What is the real reason for it? Oh? Because of Trump's Twitter habits, because of the way that he speaks about

the press. My favorite thing really about Trump is the way he speaks about the press, to be honest with you, the way that he takes the fight to them and does not allow them to be this this really nasty group of untalented, snickering high school students who all just cover each other's back and say the same things, think the same things. A lot of group think. That Trump holds them to account is one of my favorite things

about this president. But you look at the crew that has been assembled to try and oppose him, the people that they're offering up and Joe Biden is He calls Trump a clown, which I think is so funny. Psychologists would call that projection. I mean, Joe Biden is a clown.

There's nothing about Joe Biden that is impressive. There's nothing about Joe Biden that makes you think, Wow, this is somebody that I would want to have on my debate team, or have my back in a bar fight, or you know, you name it, performing surgery on me, writing a speech for me. Joe Biden is a man who's only talent is advancing the career prospects in political office of Joe Biden and beyond that, he's quite a weird guy. They've tried to tell us for a long time, and you know,

he's the primary competitor Trump right now. They've tried to tell us for a long time that he's so kind of charming and oh, you know, Joe is a great guy because of this and that, and he's so funny and he's like your crazy uncle with the No, that's the spin, that's the storyline that they want you too, except they want you to believe, but it's not rooted

in reality. He's a weird guy. And as they look more into some of his dealings in the past than I think some of his family dealings, some of what he has done for his own family members used his office to their benefit. It's going to get very hard to get past the whiff of corruption and self dealing from the Biden clan. But I saw this over the weekend. This I had never seen this video before. If Joe Biden.

This is from two thousand and seven, So this isn't some thirty year old clip that we dredged up for you. This is from two thousand and seven. This is the Democrat front runner for the presidency in twenty twenty. Who is just He's just going to tell you about what he spent his summer doing. And I think you need to hear this for yourself. Play clip five Joe Biden summer. There's neglect in the part of the medical and the white community focusing on educating the minority community out there.

I spent last summer going through the black sections of my town, holding rallies in parks, trying to get black men to understand is not unmanly to wear a condom, getting women understand they can say no, getting people in the position where testing matters. I got tested for age. I know Barack got tested for age. There's no shame in being testifage. It's an important thing because the fact of the matter is in the community and the community's

engaged in denial. They're engaged in denial. No one wants to talk about it in the community, and we do not have enough leaders in the community and outside the community demanding we face the reality, confront the men in the community as well as the women, letting them know there are alternatives. Thank you. Joe Biden claims there, all right, I'm you heard it. I'm not I'm not getting creative

here with with some transcript or. Joe Biden claims back in two thousand and seven that he was quote going through the black sections of my town trying to get black men to understand it's not unmanly to wear a condom. What what the heck is like? What is wow? This is Joe Biden though when he's not doing this, which I understand he's talking about maybe trying to do, you know, HIV prevention or something, but just the way that he discusses these issues, the way that he holds himself up

as somebody that can just relate to anybody. No, he's a weird guy. He is a weird guy doing weird stuff. There's the sniffing and the grabbing and the kind of gropy grope stuff too. This is the best the Democrats have to offer. This is what they've got. I think some of them are. And I bring this up to because after those job numbers last week, job creation was huge and way exceeded expectations and just the overall positive trajectory of the American economy and I think American in

many ways, American day to day life. I mean, there isn't optimism. You can convince yourself, there's no optimism. You can convince yourself that Putin is running this country, that Trump stole the election, that Trump is a member of the KKK. I mean, you can be a delusional, you know, freak if you want. I mean, you can be a weirdo. You can. And a lot of Democrats have done that. They've they've convinced themselves that there's an alternate reality that

we're all living in. You know, it's like this is the Matrix, except instead of Agent Smith, there's just Trump's running around everywhere. Or they can deal with what's really happening, which is that the country's doing pretty well. There's still tons of challenges and all that. I'm not saying. I mean, the border drives me nuts right now, but you'll see that the Obama administration head of Border Patrol, Trump is

not putting him forward to be running running ice. We had him, producer, Mike, Do we have him on the show recently? I know I interviewed him for Rising. I can't always remember which show I did the interview on m But he's very strong on the border. So they're gonna they're gonna deal with that issue. But Joe Biden doesn't even really think he's going to make the country a better, happier, safer, more prosperous place based on what you know, based on his I mean, just unbelievable, an

unashamed pandering that he will do to people. I mean, this is a guy who is He's the quintessential tell you what you want to hear politician say one thing to one group, another thing to another group, does not care how how slimy it all is just just just peddling nonsense to people as long as it benefits him. You know, he's he's running around saying, you know, he does do very well with the minority community so far

in the Democratic Party. I have asked friends of mine who are Democratic strategists who are African American, like, why do they like Joe Biden so much? Why does the black community support but they support Biden over Corey Booker over Kamala Harris. Now I'm somebody who's an advocate for you support people based on who they are and what

they believe, not the color of their skin. But if you're a party, as a Democratic Party, is that is so rooted in identity politics, wouldn't you think that the African American community would say, well, you know, we've got a black man and a black woman who are both running for president, there'd be a greater support. No, they like, they like, They prefer not everyone, but the majority numbers show they prefer Joe Biden, and it's because of his

association with Barack Obama. It's because there's a sense that a Biden presidency might be a return to the Obama years, which I don't even think it's true. I don't think that Biden is anywhere near the political force that Obama was. It's not even the same conversation. It's really none in the same category. But you can tell Biden's trying to get a little bit of a steam goat. He's trying to get a wind at at his back. By I guess if you're using steam, you wouldn't be using wind.

But you know what I mean saying things like this playlot four. Speaking of dignity, it means we have to protect which does not happening now. The single most important right you have as an American the right to vote, the right to vote in folks. Last year, twenty four states introduced or an active at least seventy bills took curtail the right to vote, and guess what mostly directed at quote people of color. You see it, We got Jim crow sneaking back in. No, I mean it's all

a cup. Why Why because they know you saw it in North Carolina, you saw what happened in Georgia, Oh what happened in Florida. Why because you know, if everybody has nickel right to vote, guess what they lose? They lose. He's kind of a moron, you know, I really and I don't like to throw that terminology around, but he's really not a very smart guy. He's just he's been listening to the tape, so to speak, for a long time. He knows what he's expected to say in different category

at different situations. And but really not a bright individual from what I see and what I hear. And I mean to say that Jim Crowe is sneaking back in is such a reckless and dishonest thing for a prominent member of the Democratic Party to say. But he knows that if he especially in states like North Carolina, and you know, he knows if and Georgia, if he can convince the African American community that he is their biggest advocate. That's an enormous advantage over the rest of the field.

So he'll just say whatever he has to say. But that's what you get with Joe Biden. There is no

political core, there is no particular belief system. Joe Biden believes in Joe Biden, and Democrats who are honest know this and know that that's probably not going to be enough in an era of Trump not just presiding over a very successful economy, but also being able to take the fight to his opponents himself not have to worry about a mainstream media filter deciding, you know, when he can talk and who he can talk to and how he can say things. You know, Biden's come up with

clown as a nickname. He wants to play the nickname game with Trump. Oh man, this is this is gonna look like the varsity against the freshman team. He's really going to get into a name calling contest with Donald Trump. I mean, Joe Biden telling you folks, you know, I've been saying it all along. He is I do not think he's going to be the nominee, and he's gonna flame out here. People are gonna realize he just doesn't

have it. And what's amazing is the Democrats. For two years, I've been telling us that Trump is a trader, He's the worst and all this stuff. Who are they offering up to replace him, Joe Biden? They can't be serious. I guess they are, but it's ridiculous. All Right, we got a lot more. I do want to talk to you all about the some of the big national security stories today. I feel like there's there's some trouble brewing outside of just the military response that Israel had for

the terrorist attacks from Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jiha. But you know Iran, We've got a carrier group on the way right now. I'm been tasked to have a show of force to the Iranians and obviously Venezuela, there's still that fight for power and fight for supremacy in Caracas. So we'll get into that quite a bit and talk about some of the other Democrats in the field right now. It's one of these days where there's a lot of different stories, a lot of threads we have to pull together.

There's not one mega story today, but I kind of like that because we can cover a lot of grounds. So we'll be back the more. My one question is was it like that working for other politicians? You've worked for politicians. I've definitely worked for politicians. They insists, insist on slavery. Come on, it's so to a woman of color here. I mean, I'm serious. I think some washers are tiously bad to people, and they do humiliate there. I mean bad to be the humiliar people still very

short of slavery. Lyndon Johnson was an awful man. He did cheat them my slaves. And the fact is it didn't get it. We didn't hear about it till later. Chris Matthews is an idiot. Yeah, what what is NBC doing? Well? Why is this guy someone that we have to listen to talk about politics or anything else? I good credit that that. The panelist there was Juanita Tolliver, who does arise you with me a lot. She's a Democrat. I'm actually very fond of one Nita. She's really nice and

a lot of a lot of fun um. But good for her. What are you What are you saying working on a political campaign is like slavery? I mean, if he said at once, and he was trying to say it with a rhetorical flourish, I guess, but he really

drilled down it like flavor. It's like flavor. This is one of one of the problems in this town is that you have, I mean in the swamp here, you have this, uh, this hierarchy of morons that we have to listen to about politics and about America, and if you question it, you're told that you know there must be something wrong with you. Meanwill no, no person who knows anything thinks that Chris Matthews knows anything. And yet he's a multi millionaire who does his show on MSNBC

and blah blah blah. But Democrats have, uh, there's a there's a lack of Democrat mojo right now. There's a lack of a sense of purpose because they can't just keep talking about impeachment every day because they know that ultimately they just want to they want to get to impeachment, but they don't have what they need yet and I don't think they ever gonna get it. They are all fired up about Mueller testifying. Muther's not going to testify for at least I think it's two or three weeks now,

and Trump has said he doesn't want up too. I think Mueller is going to testify, so maybe that's a good place for us to transition the discussion here in just a moment, I think Mueller will testifying. It won't be nearly as exciting for Democrats as they want it to be. But there is a story that he just broke on Fox about leaks from the intel community to the media to get Trump. What's going on here? We've got that in more coming up. Team, stay right there.

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to try to take down this president. But just as

to hold that for one second. Something else we're going to discuss today on the program is how progressives are nasty, not all of them, but progressive ideology in this country has really jumped the shark and is often incredibly vitriolic ad hominem and meant to make people feel bad about themselves, meant to just go at the individual, not at their ideas, because it is one it's the product of a lot of brainwashing and cultural reinforcement from the perspective of all

these petty totalitarians that find them self drawn to progressivism, so that that's one competent of it. And also they don't have the emotional strength and and honestly the sense of decency to just make it about the ideas. They often go after people here is alan Well, the there's

gonna be a few examples of this in the show today. Alabama, Alabama Democrat John Rogers talking about the President of the United States, son, and you need to hear this play the one earlier today, Donald Trump Junior condemned your comments. Do you ever sponsor to that? Son? Hey, that's an honor from you, Thank god. Right on, that's been no right, because no, no, he'd be right old, since he'd be here. That proved the right to the biggest seat by the boys.

Him being born, there's proved the right. That's a very big defeat. I am for a boy to ready to him looking him. Wanted you wanted you to the born to him when he was born, But hell are you want to made a stupid statement? Right? He means see the hill of him. Didn't they could aborted him, but they means see to keep it because he's really retarded, crazy he should Hey, that's a that's a best that guy from one posts you're ready and looking at him.

There's an elected Democrat official in the state of Alabama representing the people of Alabama saying that Donald Trump Junior is the very best defense he could think of for the right to an abortion because he should have been aborted, and then went on to call him quote retarded. Do you think that this is going to lead the broadcast at MSNBC tonight and they say, whoa John Rodgers, Alabama

can't do that. I can't say this stuff, man. That's it's a political ideology without decency, without a moral core. It is statism and lust for power dressed up in a whole lot of fancy, fancy language about caring about the poor and the oppressed, but really doesn't care about anything other than the lust for power, certainly doesn't enforce any norms of civility or decency. And just remember that

the next time they oh, Trump's tweet was so mean. Really, you got an elected official referring to the president's son as retarded and saying that he is a defense for the right to an abortion because he should have been aborted. I mean, one of the dumbest things. But there are a lot of Democrat politicians who say just shockingly stupid things and do not get called and not just stupid, immoral, heinous things. I mentioned this switching gears. I mentioned this

Fox News story. Struck page text suggests Intel agencies leaked on Russia case. According to some centers and the GOP, here's what they say. Republican congresional leaders are calling for new investigation of media leaks surrounding the Russia investigation, possibly emanating from the intelligence community, pointing to internal text messages they say indicate a more widespread problem. These texts and emails demonstrate the need to investigate leaks from agencies or entities.

Other than the FBI, according to Senate Homeland Security Committee Chairman Ron Johnson. So here's what I see happening. There are going to be people that are in a whole heap of trouble if Bill Barr is able to do his job here, and I think he will do his job and track down communications between former heads of the Director of National for the former Director of National Intelligence, the former head of the CIA, the former FBI director. These are people who never ever should have been going

on TV trading on their classified access. The whole point of there being on TV was that was not just the perception that they had secret knowledge about TROMP and Russia, but that they were directly involved in it. Now, I never would have, from my time at CIA, gone on television to talk about highly sensitive work that the intelligence

community was doing on issues that I covered there. You can speak about things in a broad policy sense, and you know that those are usually the kinds of conversations you have on TV. But Clapper and Brennan and come and these these paid left wing hills doing all the kind of demagoguery and shameless pandering to the left that

they were doing on television on a regular basis. The reason that they were going on TV was that they they were the ones who created the Russia collusion narrative while they were in government, and then their presence on these TV shows was used as a kind of justification

for the continued belief in the Russia collusion narrative. Does any person really think that John Brennan or James Clapper weren't in some way involved in being sources for the stories that were broken at places like NBC and CNN. And does anyone think that it's a coincidence that James Comey briefs Donald Trump on this dossier doesn't say that Hillary Clinton and the DNC paid for it. Isn't that

an interesting detail to leave out? Brief some on the dossier, and then Tapper, one of the most sanctimonious and self aggrandizing jerks in the entire world of journalism, you know, CNN Brayton starts reporting on the how the dossier has been briefed. There weren't a lot of people in the room, folks.

There were some very bad actors here. There were there were individuals who betrayed their oaths, who betrayed the loyalty they're supposed to show to the United States government to be partisan hacks for a paycheck in the media, and they did a tremendous disservice the intelligence community, and they did a lot of damage to in the case of comy law enforcing community. And I'm i am very confident

that they will find out that there were criminal leagues here. Specifically, what comes up in these text messages quote, these text and emails raise a number of serious questions and concerns. For example, who are the sisters and what does it mean to say the sisters have been leaking like mad? What are they worried about? And what are they kicking into overdrive? Which agency is he referring to? And why does Struck believe the reference news articles highlights the agency

as a source of the leaks. They're digging into these tech messages between Struck and Page and they're finding stuff that I'm telling you the Democrats are going to want to hide. They're finding stuff that Democrats aren't going to want to see the light of day. And get ready for a lot of kicking and screaming over this, because once you start finding people who are leakers, then you know what the question turns into. Why shouldn't we prosecute

these people. Why should George Papadoppolus face prison time for an unimportant non lie. But these people breaking their oaths and sharing classify with the media, they would just get away with it. I don't think so that's not going to fly. I got more on this and so much

more Team stay with me. So many of the solutions I believe we're going to come from our communities, communities like the one where I grew up, which is an industrial Midwestern city that is exactly the kind of place that our current president targeted with a message saying that we could find greatness by just stopping the clock and

turning it back and making America great again. When that passed, that he is promising to return us to was never as great as advertised, especially for marginalized Americans, and there's no going back anyway. They have Mayor Pete who's now become a darling of the left. He's one of the top four candidates for the Democrat presidential nomination, I think

maybe top five. Top four. Mayor Pete from South Bend, a city that I'm surprised to have found out it has a very high crime rate per capita violent crime rate does not speak well to Mayor Pete's management skills as the chief executive of the City of South Bend, Indiana. But he's saying that we're never going to return that the past that Trump wants to return to is not that great, and you know, and it wouldn't be possible

to turn out clock anyway. I just think it's so interesting Democrats just culturally, emotionally, and really instinctively take a more negative view of America than Republicans. Do you see this time and again Democrats derive strength from thinking that they are better than America and need to fix it, whereas Republicans tend to drive strength and a sense of pride just from being America. You know, Patriotism on the right is America is the most wonderful, free, incredible country

in the history of the world. Patriotism on the left is more. Yeah, America is really powerful and great, but it's not that great, and there's a lot of problems, and there's a lot of history we still have to confront. And it's only going to be good if progressives are in charge, and if the left has its way and we become socialist and you know, it takes this turn

very quickly. Whereas what Trump to me, at least when Trump says make America great again, but he's just saying is a return to and obviously one of the most incredible political slogans of all time in the power that

it wielded, in how successful it was. But a return to that core Republican belief that this country that when the American people are free to pursue their destiny, when they don't have the boot of government on their hand or on their neck, why when you are free to express your pride and love for this country and to view yourself as an American as different from people from the rest of the world, your obligations to this community as different, your future as inherently whined with this country

in a way that non Americans it's not the case. Just a recalibration of thinking about what it is to be a patriotic American back to a more traditionally you know. I mean, people say, well buck, when when is the marketing back to I don't think Trump is saying we want to make this country, we want to party like at seventeen ninety nine. He's saying, wouldn't that be an

interesting party, like it's seventeen ninety nine. But what he's saying is, you know, people a little bit more like it was under the era of Reagan, I think, where you know, we were confronting the evil Empire, and we had this sense of purpose and love of country that was rooted in the fact that you know, we are We're not perfect, but we're the good guys. Under the Obama administration wasn't always clear that we were the good guys, folks. Obama's position was, you know, the real good guys are

the United Nations. You know, the real good guys are the international community. We can we can sometimes be a good guy, but sometimes we're America. We're a bad guy. That's a different friend. There's there's a philosophical separation, an important fundamental philosophical separation between the Democrats view America in the world and in history, and then we Republicans doing the right and the left and conservatives and liberals and

you know, these are these are real conceptual distinctions. And so Trump takes the perspective of, you know, we need to understand how great this country is and try to promote the aspects of a try to try to free it up to pursue its destiny of continued greatness. Whereas you know, may or Pete say, oh, he wants to take us back to time when it was bad for minorities. Let me just note that, you know, minority communities, I don't just mean ethnic moundities, I mean minorities of any kind.

In any country, there there's always at tension there, there are always problems historically with the way that minorities are treated by and fit into the broader state. I mean, there's no such thing as as perfection with this, and

no one has ever gotten entirely right. You know, America today is in so many ways, and progressives would scoff at this, but the fact that this country gets along as well as it does with itself and you know, with each other within this nation, with all of the incredible array of differences in groups and individuals and everything that we have, is really just a testament to the

greatness of America. But because it's it's imperfect, there's a focus on down talking America, you know, saying, you know, we haven't done enough. And this victim narrative you get from so many people is it's far too prevalence speaking of the victim narrative, I just you know Kamala Harris, who is still a very viable Democrat Canada. I think that she's gonna have a breakout here in the next few months, not because she's so great, just because it's

kind of a default situation, right. They need to find somebody who gets the left wing base excited and off, but also is enough of an establishment player with a high enough profile. And she just she checks off the boxes. But it will later on we'll talk about Hillary Clinton still says that the election was stolen from her, which is I thought that was undermining democracy. To say these things when they were worried about Trump doing it was

undermining democracy. Hillary can just say it, but Kamala and the Democrats will cover for her. Of course. Kamala Harris also likes to go to a talking point here that you know, I wonder what the basis in reality for it is voter suppression. She talks talking about voter suppression. Playclip three. Let's say this loud and clear. Without voters suppression, Stacy Abrams would be the governor of Georgia. Andrew Gillham

is the governor of Florida. So the truth is we need a new voting rights at Let's say that this is just intellectually dishonest, absolutely dishonest. This is lying to people about the scope of a problem and then saying you want to solve it without having a real solution to mind. A new voting rights act that would say what you can't You can't purge dead people and people that move from voter rules. You can't have voter ide

The Supreme Court's already rual voter idea is constitutional. The left can try to fight this as much as they want. Voter at voter ID, voters having ID to vote is constitutional. She's claiming voter suppression, saying Stacey Abrams would would have wont her like she's saying it was stolen from Stacey Abrams. Is not true. There's no real case to be made that it was stolen from her. They may not like

the rules, but the rules are the rules. But this is what you do to get the left wing bas excited. Lie to them, tell them what they want to hear. Say that there was voter suppression. Do you have any proof? No? But who needs proof? When you can just get people really upset about something? Who needs proof? When you'll rally the left wing base with claims of a voter suppression. Of course, voter suppression of minorities. That's always the subtext here.

Sometimes they're explicit about it. A new Voting Rights Act. What would it say exactly that laws that are applicable across the board for people like voter ID they don't count because certain communities don't like them to count. I mean, what what is it going to say? But the lie is comforting that there's voters suppression. Well, the degree of voting, including with the minority communities in these elections is there

are all time highs. Voting is way up. Overall voting is if people are trying to suppress the vote in Georgia, they did a terrible job because they're voting. We're voting. Was that a record for an offseason cycle? So again, the Democrats are just making stuff up as they go along. But that's what their base wants to hear, so that's what they do. These guys are bound and determined to go after the attorney general, to go after President Trump, and not going to focus on what we need to

do to help the country. So I think they're nervous about Bill bark because remember what he said three weeks ago in front of the the Senate Finance commit He made four important points. First of all, he said spying did in fact take place. Second, he said there is a basis for his concern that the spying wasn't properly predicated. Third, he said there was a failure of leadership at the upper echelon of the FBI. We know that's for sure a comey McKay baker struck page. We know there was

a fare of leadership there. And then fourth, he used two terms that I've never really heard before, and my guess is most Americans haven't. He used the term unauthorized surveillance, and he used the term political surveillance. So the Democrats are scared, and frankly, I think when we're talking about obstruction of justice, the real obstruction of justice is what Democrats are trying to do to the Attorney general. They're trying to stop him by all these things that's contempt

and not having him come testify. They're trying to stop him from getting the answers that we just talked to me. You know, when you're taking a lot of flak, you're above the target and Attorney General bar drives liberals completely insane, not because he's hijacked the narrative of the Mulla Report and all this other stuff, but because he is a pro and he's going to get answers and their answers

that the left doesn't want to hear. They don't want to know about this, that I want to hear about this. The origins of the Russia collusion fantasy are going to

look very very bad. We will see, I mean, I am certain that we will see that the deep state was very real, That Komy and Struck and Page and Brennan and Clapper, that these individuals, Sally Yates, these individuals cook this whole thing up, showed incredibly bad judgment, incredibly bad faith, and tried to stop Trump from becoming president, and then tried to destroy him when he was president and in the transition process too, using the powers of

their public offices to do So, that's what we're going to find out. That no serious, credible human being could have really thought that George Papadopolis really knew about Russian hacking of Hillary Clinton's personal emails, when that wasn't even what they ended up doing anyway. But that was what

the storyline was. Andy McCarthy is a great piece of National View for the weekend about this that the whole FBI story that we've been told this far, about how Papadopolis came on their radar, what was thought doesn't add up, doesn't make any sense. They're they're lying. One thing I find is so interesting is that I know, if you lie to the FBI, you get a prison if the FBI as an FBI you know, senior official. If you lie to the American people, apparently that happens to you.

If you work within the FBI and you are dishonest with what happened, you do not face any consequences of any kind. Maybe you'll get maybe you'll get fired if you're Andy McCabe, who should face criminal prosecutions. It's worse than that. Devin Newness is also on this issue. I mean, he has not forgotten. And you know they remember when they were completely demonizing Newness. I mean, they hated Newness

for a while. But Devin Newness was someone who early on recognized that there was a whole other component to this Russia Gate spy story, and he wants to know how many human assets were run against the Trump campaign and under what auspices and what the justification was play Cliff ten, I'm not worried about whether or not they were spying on the Trump campaign. That is fact. What I want to know is how many spies with an S were involved in this. We have to get to

the bottom of this. All this information needs to come out. It does need to come out. And the reason that you've seen such a ferocity of criticism against Attorney General bar is they know that they have to undermine him before he can even get going. I mean they have to destroy Their best play is to destroy his credibility with as many people as a ken. They'll never destroy with you and me, because we know the Bars bars

a stunt. That guy's a badass. He is, and everyone I speak to you in DJ says he is such a common presence there because he knows all the games the pathetic Democrats are going to play. He knows all the lies and the misdirection that the mainstream media a little Democrat Aaron boys and girls for the Democrat Party in the mainstream media. He knows what they're gonna do, their stories, what they're gonna say, and he's just gonna

stay on this. He knows that when we finally get the information about what happened with this Russia collusion investigation, it's gonna look very bad, not just for the people who were the deep state operators, if you will, the Komis and the mccaves and the Strucks, and but it's gonna look very bad for the Obama administration. And that's the that's the true sacred cow for the left right now.

I mean, they have this whole story, this whole theory and belief that Obama was scandal free, that Obama's eight years were marked with just such tremendous progress in America, and it was also wonderful in the politics, where it's such a different tone. And meanwhile, I mean, the economy was took forever to recover from the recession because of Obama's policies. You had race riots in major American cities,

or the demonization of cops. You had the first US ambassador murdered abroad because of just cheer incompetence, because of Hillary Clinton in a Barack Obama, you know a lot. You know, does Syria turn into an otter nightmare? A half million people die? We went into Libya, to turn that into you know, disaster ref disaster. Well, what's the

big win for the Obama administration Obamacare? Oh, you mean really expensive health insurance in the individual market that's not very good with limited doctor networks, and I mean that that's supposed to be the but they cling to this. I mean, that's the story. That's what you're that Obama was amazing and wonderful. And so even if we can't, even if the Democrats can't of Obama running again, something someone who is more like Obama is the promise. You know.

That's why Joe Biden appeals so much just to at least a third of whatever or whatever it is the twenty five or thirty percent of Democrats now that are for Joe Biden because it would be a return to Obama. But if we find out that the Obama administration and at some level he had to know about this, I'm not saying he knew every step of the way. That's not how this works. Comey wasn't sending Obama emails every day gonna do this, We're gonna put this asset in place.

But it is it defies belief that someone who is as obsessed with cya as James Comey wouldn't have covered himself with Obama at some way, in some manner or in some way, at some time, there just had to be notification that you're you're running human assets against the presidential campaign, trying to entrap them, trying to convince them to say things to then justify a surveillance trag that

under counterintelligence auspices. I mean, this is the biggest political scandal of my lifetime, and it just shows how dirty Democrats willing to play. They're complaining about voter suppression even though voting is way up in the places they complain about, you know, they complain about stolen elections. They say all this stuff. Meanwhile, the real cheating was what the deep state did to Trump in the twenty sixteen election. That's

the real cheating. That's where you see people breaking the rules, acting in bad faith, and fighting dirty against their political opponents, just fighting very dirty. They hate they hated Newness because they knew that they couldn't throw him off target. They hate him Jordan because he doesn't wear he doesn't wear a suit jacket ever, because you know, he wants to take him to the gun show even though you can't really see it, I guess under his shirt. But they

hate him Jordan because he's a fighter. They hate Mark Meadows because he wants to get to the truth. But they hate Bar more than anybody. You know. They want Bar to go the way of Jeff Sessions, where they can just mock and ridicule him until he caves, until he gives up. That's the plan. That's really what they want. They want to push him aside. It's not going to happen. I cannot wait until we get one the declassification of the documents that Trump has been promising about the Russia

investigation origins, and then also that Inspector General report. I think it's gonna be lit. It's gonna be lit. It's gonna be a bad day for the deep state, bad day for the Democrats, and it's coming. I think it's also critical to understand that, as I've been telling candidates who have come to see me, you can run the best campaign, you can even become the nominee, and you can have the election stolen from you, stolen. It was stolen. She says. This is something that I don't think we

should just let slip past. Here. You have the presume not just nominee for the Democrats all along for the twenty sixteen election, but they're next presumed president, Hillary Clinton, who is claiming, without evidence, as they like to say over the Washington Post, the New York Times whenever they talk about Trump, without evidence, the election was stolen from her.

This is a at a minimum, a massive exaggeration. I mean, this is a lie based on the decontextualization of the Russian interference to be the Russian interference was a blip on the radar screen. It barely even registered at all. It No serious person believed that it turned the election away from Lly Clinton. It was not that close. It was not that tight. Hillary maybe should have campaign in Wisconsin.

Maybe he should have actually run a campaign where there was something to vote for other than just I'm Hillary Clinton, so I get to be your president. But she is saying that it was stolen from her, and I just can't help but recall that the media was at the time of the election in twenty sixteen all jumping all over Trump saying that he wouldn't accept the election results, and now here she is like a crazy person two years plus after the election and she doesn't accept the results.

She does it, she says it was stolen from her. As I've been saying for a long time, there is a hole in Hillary Clinton's soul, and the only way she can fill it as money and power. She's had to make so many, let's just say, sacrifices of character and decency and honor along the way that she feels like the world owes her that top job. And even when she had it, I would know it. It's not like that would make her a happy person that feels fulfilled.

I think she does lack a degree of fulfillment. I think it's obvious in the way she conducts herself now

in public life as a post presidential candidate. But speaking of post presidential candidates, I also have not forgotten that, you know, Bill and Hillary Clinton are doing this this this speaking tour the Clintons, and I always forget when Chelsea's involved, which you know, I don't know, what does Chelsea have to tell people about how to be the daughter of a former president and have people throw money at you despite you not being throughly good at anything

and never having to have a real job. She's never had a real job. There are other people who are famous and then sons or daughters of politicians. You can say this about too. I'm not limited to the Chelsea Clinton. But Chelsea Clinton has never had a real job, never had a job job. Even the job jobs that she's had in the past are given to her by virtue

of who her parents are. And she's never really in a position where she has to perform because you know, I mean, she just she was on the board of IAC, which is a huge media company. It's owned by Barry Dillard. She made three hundred thousand dollars a show for six meetings. What does she know about a what does she know about digital? Nothing? It's just name recognition and just being in the Clinton orbit. And these people all take care

of each other and pay each other off. But I remember debating with people at CNN when what feels like a different lifetime now I was a CNN contributor. They were actually paying me to go on their air and try to enlighten their delusional liberal masses about what time it really is and what's really going on in the

world and in America. And I remember there was this this outrage, just this just complete outrage at the idea that the Clintons were really selling access, and that what the market will bear for a Bill Clinton speech isn't really how much people need to hear Bill Clinton give the same, you know, kind of bloviating, bombastic nonsense speech over to it's paying him off so that you maintain a relationship and access to his wife, who was going

to be the next president the United States. They thought for eight years, and I would say, this is so obvious, and this is why people were donating all this money the Clinton Foundation and all along. I had said, and you can go back, you can check the tape on radio.

Check the tape. I had said, Just wait until it's clear that Hillary Clinton is not going to be the next president the United States, and see what happens to the Clinton foundation clinton Foundation donations, and see what happens to their speech fees and their live events and how.

And of course I was right. And all the people that were running around saying that Hillard that that was crazy and that people just love Bill clinton speeches so much they pay him five hundred, six hundred, seven hundred grand for a speech. No one makes that for a speeches, No such thing. No one's one hour long speech is worth half a million dollars You don't have to pay anybody a half million dollars to get them to do that. No,

no one does that in the political world. I mean, you know, maybe if you're paying, you know, Beyonce to show up and play a set or something, they'll pay a million dollars for an hour. But even I don't think Beyonce would do that. Not enough money. But no one does that in the former politician world. It was all just a big scheme, folks. It was it was all just Clinton corruption. It was selling access or at a minimum, the perception of access to the highest offices

in the highest office in the land. That's what the Clinton Foundation was all about. That's what those speeches. That's how that's how they became fabulously wealthy over one hundred million dollars without ever creating a product, selling a product, you building a business. They were the business. Hanging out with the Clintons, having them speak at your events, that was the business. And it was only so lucrative and only so powerful because Hillary Clinton was going to be

the next president. I just I haven't let this go. And all the people that were donating, especially the foreign governments that were donating money to the Clinton Foundation. They were just buying access and purchasing favors. That's what they

thought they were doing. And so the people that are now telling us about how we need to go through Trump's tax returns, I need to this and then everything, they're the same people that are that were running interference for the Clintons for all those years, acting like they were too stupid to understand what was really going on when anybody paying attention knew that the Clintons were just they were so rapaciously and unrepentantly greedy. And that's one

thing that you can always and into. Clintons are just they are just such unbelievably self indulgent, money obsessed individuals that they couldn't hide what was going on. So they needed everybody else around them to come up with these narratives. And the media that you know, loved them so much and was going to have eight years of access to Clinton in the White House, it was all gonna be so amazing. They acted like they're a bunch of morons.

Now they can't even give away tickets to their live events. They you know, the donations Clinton Foundation are down like fifty percent, maybe more than I would jump falling off a cliff, and the people that were pretending that that wasn't the case, they act like we're not supposed to remember how just shockingly dishonest they were along and how just completely and utterly fraudulent their analysis was on this because they were just they were trying to do what

they could to carry water for the Clintons. And now we know that that's what was going on. Now we know that the corruption the Clintons engagement was so widespread and so systematic that it almost overwhelmed our ability to comprehend it. You know, this is like you kill you kill one person, you're a murderer. You kill a million people,

you're a conqueror. The Clintons were in terms of corruption in the in the million person potty calary, it's just so out of control, so widespread, and we just have more and more evidence of it coming in all the time,

and I have not forgotten. I will not just let it go that the Clintons, not only that Hillary won't accept that she lost the election, which you'll hear more and more of that going is that was stolen from her, but that she was selling her office and her husband was pro fitting off of her office and the perception that she was going to be a very powerful individual, intellected office. And it's a disgrace. I mean, the Clintons are a true disgrace to American politics and I'm never

going to forget what they've done. Israelis have every right to defend themselves. I've seen video that we can't validate just yet, but where there have been strikes at homes, civilian populations, these rockets were fired with civilians around them in order to protect return from return fire. Israel has a right to protect itself and that means that there are going to be some serious reprisals if Hamas fires

more massive volleys of rockets. Hamas Palestine and Islamic jihad terrorist organizations that do not want to live side by side with the State of Israel. They want to eradicate the State of Israel. Where is this going now? What happens next? We have a friend, David Iffun on the line where this. He is the editor in chief of the Alga Miner and David, great to have you, as

always always a pleasure. But all right, first, what created this most recent I mean, to the best of your knowledge and your sources in Israel what created this most recent violent exchange. So, look, the situation that you have over there on the ground is that basically Gaza, the entire Gada is a tender books. You know, it can

take off at any time. I mean, there are a tend of thousands of advanced missiles are sitting there, and basically it's just a question as to whether the leaders in Gaza want to switch it on or switch it off. So there are two major groups in Gaza that have the ability to fire a serious amount of munitions into

the Jewish State. The leaders are a group called from US that payments is a mainly Sunni Islamic states like Qatar for example, but there's slightly more independent per se and they're objective at this stage, probably has a lot more to do with shake down the Israeli government, but to be allowing funds into the Gaza strip that they can then use and loosening some of the restrictions and importing cement or other banned items into the Gaza strip or items that have been used to then turn around

and to create weapons that they use to get to your state, like terra tunnels for example. So why now, why why would ha mus have an interest in escalating now because you know there's been a delay apparently entertainments in terms of money that Israel is allowed to come through.

They also understand that Israel has its independent state celebrations coming up to toasting Eurovision in two weeks, so they see a great opportunity for a shakedown over hare and Israel is not looking to escalate either for Tree executive the same reasons. Then you have the second major group, terror groups that vise for influence in the Gaza strip, which is the Islamity Had terror group, which is backed by Iran. And when Iran tells them to pull a trigger,

that's why they're going to pull the trigger. And obviously a run has an entirely different set of considerations when they want to draw the world's attention away from themselves sometimes and of course there are other objectives as well. We've seen some pretty cryptic news coming out of Israel, some reports in the Hebrew media saying there is a secret reason as to why Issol didn't want to take this site further at this time. So it seems that

they've sort of capitulated to what the demand was. They're allowing the money in or they're saying that the money will go in and for now things are quiet. Now do you think that this is this is not the beginning of some broader war, some broader military action. It sounds almost like the way the way you describe it, Dovid, this is like a mafia state in the case of what's going on in Gaza, that's doing this to just demand some cash. Yeah, that's a good way to put it.

I mean, look, we see these flares from time to time. Having said that, everybody in Israel knows that is only a matter of time until an all out war is going to have to take place. The only question really is when. So now is not the time now the objectives are different, at least so it seems as of

the seats fire holding this morning. But you know, at the end of the day you have a scenario on the ground, and the only way to end this threat once and for all for Israel is basically to sending ground forces that's going to come with a cost of thousand or more Israeli lives, maybe even thousands, and no as READI leader is ready to take that step at this stage. Having said that, you know, the citizens of southern Israel, and the citizens of Israel in general are angry.

They're frustrated, they see no end in sight, and they're not willing to live under the shadow of this threat forever. Now, the Israelis pulled out of Gaza, right, So you often hear people in the media in this country say, well, you know, they they'll talk about the occupation of Gaza,

but but there is no occupation of Gaza. How has this affected Israeli opinion about what the proper security posture is visa vi Gaza, And and you know, just just what is what is this meant inside of the inside of Israeli politics when you see that, you know, they they pulled out, right, Israeli forces pulled out, and it was not some small concession. It involved a lot of logistics and the abandonment of territory and moving settlers and and Gaza has not been any but really a problem

for the region. I mean, it's not like Gaza has responded to this by saying, well, well, we'll act in good faith, not going forward, quite the opposite. So I'm just wondering, well, you know, how has that affected the perception of the pullout and how one must deal with Hamas going forward. You know, that's that's a very good question.

And to you know, I was actually on the ground back in two thousand and five when He's Ready's pulled out of Gather, So I saw, you know, some of the sentiments and the and the emotions that that you know, were felt in the country at the time. And I think at the end of the day, it's put a nail in the coffin to the land for Peace concepts. You know, people wonder a couple of weeks ago pregnants

and that Nether was reelected. People wonder how there's this sort of permanent majority for the right wing block in Israel, And really that's what that's what it's borne off. I mean, even the opposition, even even the major party that gave him now a run for his money, they're also not talking about this land for Peace paradigm. I mean, he is ready tried these ready has tried it with OSLO.

They gave you know, a lot of control or autonomy to the kind of sin authority of the PLO, and they were the response was a secondent to further bombing and blood all over the streets, thousand casualties. They tried it with Southern Lebanon. What they have today is probably one hundred and fifty thousand rockets pointing at them from hesball of territory in southern Lebanon, and they tried it

with Gaza. Every single time they vacate territory, it becomes a terror breeding ground at a terrorist controlled territory that

puts Israel and further and further and further danger. The Israeli people are permanently traumatized by this concept, which is why when we see a new peace plan unveiled by the Trump administration, which they've been promising now for some time, and they're expecting, sometimes they think in the summer to be unveiling, I think that they're going to shy away from a central socus on the length for peace paradigm because there's just no appetized for it in Israel whatsoever.

And how is the Trump Administra Asian doing in terms of the relationship with Israel and backing them, and is there really is there a feeling of a difference between how Trump and his cabinet and the people that are running national security over here interact with net Yahoo in the Israeli state. From what we saw under the Obama years, Oh, there's no question. You know. I'm sure you're familiar with the biblical story of Joseph and Farah, the years of

famine and the years of plenty. If the Obama years were the years of famine, these are the years of plenty. There has never been an administration that is more aligned with the Israeli perspective of the region, worldview, ideology, and sent me strategic understandings. And this is not you know, me saying it is a pundit. You know, I've I've heard this from ambassadors, from from ministers Israeli governments and advisors to the Prime Minister. I mean, they almost cannot

believe their luck. I mean, that's that's really how how good it is. I mean, we saw yesterday Israel responding to this, this incredible barrage six hundred and ninety or so missiles fired from Garda, four dents on the Israeli side, and the American response was, go get them, Asrael. You know, we back you whatever you want to do. We saw that, we saw the Vice President, the President, Secretary of State Pompeo, who you just played over their all voice in their support.

And this would have been unheard of in the Obama administration and even in the Bush administration, you had this sort of support, but there was also this you know, falling on all sides to turne things down, you know, this sort of evening out of the of the playing field, you know, as opposed to you know, this full show to support for the Israeli position that was seeing today.

Definitely is a difference, and I think it's one that has some very important implications for the re Speaking of which, David, where do you think all this goes? I mean, what are we just in this this cycle for the next you know, the next ten years. I mean, is there going to ever be some form of of a of a real Palestinian state that will take shape in some of these territories now where you have a Palestinian majority?

You know, what what is the Israeli position on what the what the region should look like in ten or fifteen years. I think the way that a lot of people feel that there actually is already a Palestinian state. I mean, Daza is independently an independent territory that is

ruled by Palestinians. And you know, we've we've seen what's what's become of it, So the question is really going to be um, you know, if there's going to be any more land at sea, then I think the answer is no, it's not likely that that's ever going to going to take place. So the question is, you know, what's going to happen with a territory that exists, what's going to happen with Gaza, and what's going to happen with with the West Bank? Um. You know, obviously there'll

be different answers for each of them. With the West Bank, it seems that there's something of a waiting game going on. You have a bus holding onto control and you know, he's sort of at the twilight of his twilight zone of his career. There's a lot of you know, looking and thinking and seeing who might the likely success of THEE and that that will probably be the most likely scenario or the most likely question that everyone's gonna be

asking before taking further steps. And then there's also been some talk of annexation from the Israeli side of some of the territory over there. It was something that Nahou spoke of in his campaign. So they we're going to be waiting to see how serious that promise was or that idea was in terms of Gaza, it's run by from us. So there's only one real way to deal with it, and that's you know, a military invasion, which which will be bloody and uh and a really nasty prospect.

So in that sense, you know, it's it's the can is just being kicked down the road, and you know it means to be seen if anybody's going to bite the bullet or if it's or if it's determined that you know, this is we don't think this expected Cushner

piece plan. You don't see this going anywhere. Well, the peace plan, you know, the way that that we see, the way that I see, you know, based on what we've heard, based on what we've seed, uh, should not be viewed, you know, as as a continuation of previous peace plans. You know, this this sort of lamp of peace business. I think they're gonna they're going to present something very very different. Um, They're going to focus on sort of the regional peace. It's not going to be

Israel the Palestinians. It's gonna it's gonna be a widening of the piece discussions. It's going to be is on the our world. There's going to be a lot of sort of economic incentives and roadmaps and opportunities that are presented. So I think that the goals are actually very different. I mean, we're using similar language, right, we're talking about a peace plan, but I don't think it's going to be anything like any peace time that we've witnessed before.

And you know, we see a lot of pundits, you know, especially you know, former State Department officials and others who are negotiators who are involved in previous discussions, talking about how it's doomed to fail. It may be the case and it may be the case that the Palestinents will reject it out of hand. But the Americans and the White House and the Chushier team have known this to

day one. They know what the Palestinans will accept and what they won't accept, and what they're embarking on have to have to have taken that into consideration. They know that it's that the Palestinians won't accept it. They're working on a framework that can that can create some value and mootings forward with or without Palestinians. And I think that's going to become clear as more details are emerged.

But you know, based on the few comments that we've seen until now and just our understanding of the attitude and the approach, I think what we're going to see is going to be very different to anything we've ever seen before. All right, my friend, thanks so much, David, if you and everybody editor in chief of the Alga Miner, check out the Algamier for all the latest on news that affects Israel and the Jewish people in the Middle East.

And great to have you on David. As always, always a plaster book always all right, team we'll be back in just a moment. You are now entering the Freedom Hardt In Elaboration Center. All the program small decapstry. We need to know Team Buck is cleared and ready for

the Buck brief. Well, it's likely the Iranians are reacting to designating the IRGC as a terrorist organization and the fact that the United States will not continue to waivers that five countries have been training oil with Iran and underscoring that is the fact that the sanctions have really taken US toll inside Iran's a US carrier group sent to send a message to the regime in Tehran. Reports of a possible planned attack from the Iranians against US

interests or allies somewhere in the Middle East? What is going on here? We have our friend Tony Schaeffer joining us now he's a x DoD intel operative and president of the London Center for Policy Research. Then a CLONL. Schaeffer. Good have you, sir, about always great to bail with you. Thanks for having me? All right, what's what are you

seeing with this whole Iran situation? And the headlines today were basically, you know, one Iran is playing a role behind the scenes here with this most recent violence with the Israelis, but also the possibility of some kind of attack plotting here. What do you make of it? Yeah, there's I appreciate Jack Keane's comments regarding the IRGC, but

I think it's more complex than that. We've been pushing buck as you know, and this year I said, look, I'm not an econ, but I do believe that we have to be a lot more aggressive than direct in dealing with the Iranians. And so what this person's done has actually introduced the concept of accountability to the process.

He is working right now to make sure that the economic benefit that the Iranians have enjoyed under the Obama administration, which basically was, yeah, we got sanctions against the Iranians, but we're looking the other way to let our allies pay them money. So the end effect was to really have no effective sanctions and trumps into them. Secondly, regarding the IRGC, in my book Operation Dark Heart, there's a section the way there where we had to actually break

the FBI and I had to interrogate and break an operative. Well, that operative was making bringing money in from the IRGC into Hran, into Afghanistan to pay the Tolly Bond to attack US. Imagine that. So this president again has held the Iranians a much higher and realistic standard. And last I think that because of this all going on a buck, they're now reacting badly. I think they recognize they can't wait Trump out for two years in he's not changed,

and I think that's what you see the reaction to. Now. They're basically saying, we got to go back and be more aggressive to prove the point that we can and try to get the United States to change course. And they're typical and most pervasive tool is terrorism, and I think that's why you're seeing the very I think appropriate

response militarily moving forces there. Now, I know that it's asking maybe a bit much to get you to mirror image the thinking of Momola's here Tony, but for them to lash out with this administration, it just feels like, how in what universe is that going to get them they want, which is essentially, I'm not a cessation of the sanctions, but at least maybe some kind of relief or some think twice attitude from the administration about putting even more sanctions on. Do you think that's just a

miscalculation from their perspective? I mean, how do you think they see this? Yeah, I think there's two pieces at play here. I think first off is that yes, they want to be seen as fierce, and the way they do that is by putting their back up and jumping into this. But I think the more important messaging here, Buck is to our allies. Remember when right after I think there was two thousand two or three, I can't exactly. I think it was two thousand and two of the

Madrid train bombings of al Qaeda. There have been attacks, terror attacks which actually have changed the thinking of some of our allies. Unfortunately, I don't think that's going to be an effective tactic that I to say that the Iranians try to do some things on the edges. You know, our friend, my friend, Ambassador Rick Grinnell has been very clear on on getting the European alli, especially Germany, to play take a harder line. So I don't think it's

going to work. But I think when you're when you're basis for thinking is religion, and that's what the Malas do. I think they have almost a flight of fantasy, thinking that somehow they can do these things and achieve a favorable outcome to their cost. I just I think there's a huge miscalculation. But again I think they're basing it partly on the Europeans caving before on some other issues.

What do you think the Trump administration should do the next eighteen months where at least we know Trump will be the commander in chief. I mean, I'm assuming it'll be a lot longer than that. But what should they What should be the game plan with Iran to continue the current I mean, you you support what the administrations that are doing. I support it as well. What are the goals? What are what are the next steps? Well, this is going to be a controversial one. Buck, and

I think the number one thing is regime change. Look, we watched during the Obama administration the Arab Spring. We missed an opportunity to see the Persian Spring. In two thousand and nine, the Green movement in Iran was very much alive and wanted to throw off the yoke of totalitarianism. They wanted to get rid of the mullas, they wanted to get rid of the theocracy, and we fail to be their form. So I believe the best way that

nuclearize Iran to make sure they've never get an ecular weaponsiscent. Basically, you encourage a new regime to commit a real democracy. So that's the first thing. And I'm sure people don't like her in that, and I don't think we should do it for them. I'm not for us going in. I'm saying that the people have the right to be free, they should do that. Secondly, we should continue to work with our allies in the region to minimize the ability of the Iranians to gain access to hard currency. They

actually have a very robust economy right now. I think they're doing much better than they led on and we need to continue to do things to strangle off the leadership, not the people, but the leadership. And third, and most importantly, as they go about trying to launch terror operations in the region, we retaliate with very strong, very precise military actions, which again I think that's why you're seeing the military elements move into the region. Today we're speaking to Tony Schaefer,

President London Center for Policy Research XDOD INTEL Operative. Tony, let's move to Venezuela for respect a second. Speaking about regime change that one feels like it might be imminent. But you know, I actually am somebody who does have a little bit of I get a little uncomfortable and I hear all options on the table. Okay, fine, all options should really always be on the table when you're

talking about national security of the United States. But this notion of a military intervention of Venezuela, how serious should we view that from the administration's point of view, What would be the circumstances and which that would happen. And you know, I don't want to make Venezuela our problem more so than we have to. That's my concern. Well, that's you and I share that point. Look, it's not our job to fix Venezuela and Venezuela got to words

that because of their own problems. So you roll in there and try to fix it, you're responsible, as we saw in Iraq. So I'm much more of a mind to continue to be helpful. Obviously, if Americans are attacked, we need to consider how to defend the Americans and our equities. But with that said, you know, I think there are allies within the region, the Brazilians and others so very much have seen the very same things worth seeing. And oh, by the way they live there, there are neighbors.

Maybe they ought to be the ones who think about jumping in and actually doing something to help bring a

positive political change to that country. So if there's going to be military action, and Joe Dunford, General Dunford has done a very good job of something called to buy with and through strategy, and we effectively were able to beat back ISIS in Iraq by not putting overwhelming US military force on the ground, but by organizing our allies to be effective as a military force as a proxy and effective conduit of supporting our policy, which was to

free the Iraqi people. So I think the very same thing that needs to be looked at here is that how do we organize our allies in the region to be successful and what does that look like? And I think that's the preferable path forward. I think we are far better off with our allies in the region than we've led on. I've talked to some folks to Tinagon who ind Kate that they've got some very strong alliances. But Bucket, there's going to be military action, should not

be us. If it's going to be military action that we want to see a proper outcome, we should be helpful, but it should not be We should not be the ones leading it, and we should not be the ones having to carry the consequences of anything that goes wrong or having to sustain the vineasp playing people after whatever happens, we got less than a minute. I just want to ask you, do you think Maduro hangs on or you think he's on the way out now. I think he's

on the way out. I think the only thing that's keeping in there right now. I tend to believe this is the Russians. I think the Russians have said some things to him to encourage him, and I think this is where we need to put some pressure on Putin and the Chinese to let them carry the message for us as well. So, Lieutenant Colonel Schaeffer, always great to have you on, sir, looking forward to going shooting with

you soon, very soon. Get you get your ten milimeter nine milimeter A ready all right, So let's go by friend, Thank you so much. Gotta check out London Center for Policy Research and team. We are gonna roll into a break here in just a moment. We're gonna have oh so much more show coming your way. So stay with me. It's again out in front of Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pennsylvania. It's not only in my district, just the most heavily

protested planned parenthood I believe in the country. And today's protester now, she is an old white lady who's gonna try to avoid showing you her face. But the same law is unluckily to protect her from being out here also protect me from showing you who she is. So I have a couple of questions for you, ma'am. How how many children have you clothed today? I'm sorry I missed your answer. How many children have you clothed today? How about how many children have you put shoes on

their feet today? Have you fed any children today or have you just stood out in front of a planned parenthood shaming people for something that they have a constitutional right to do. Huh, you're out here shaming people who would have thought that an old white lady would be out in front of a plan parenthood telling people what's

right for their bodies. That it was Pennsylvania State Representative Brian Simms harassing an elderly woman who was standing outside of a plan parent whood trying to convince women not to make the irrevocable and life altering in a very bad way decision to aboard a pregnancy to kill a baby's I think a very honorable thing to do. I'm sure she has probably saved lives, and whether she has been successful or not, she's certainly trying to save lives

by being out there. And yet Pennsylvania State Representative Brian Simms thinks that he should make a video of her, harass her, mock her, talk about all there's a constitutional right to the there is no constitutional right to an abortion, all right. There's a Supreme Court decision that made up

a constitutional right to an abortion. That is the single greatest act of constitutional destruction in the last let's call it in the post World War two era, all right, meaning that that was the most egregious usurpation of the English language, relate to or and of constitutional jurisprudence to create a right where none existed. But people still say this, there's a constitutional right to this, and that no one really believes there's a constitutional right to an abortion, and

it's just that's just idiocy. People can believe if they want, that an abortion is not a terrible thing that we should all try to limit and then eliminate from American society. They can believe that they can't believe that there's a constitutional right to an abortion. That's just stupid. No one really think. No one thinks the Founding others like I got an idea, let's do this. Let's write in a constitutional right to an abortion procedure that didn't even exists

at the time. And I'm sure if the Founding fathers knew about it would have been rather horrified by it. But anyway, this is also though, is a reminder for me, by the way, producer, Mike, do you know you're you're always my Pennsylvania expert. Do you know this State Rep. Brian Sims. You ever heard of this guy before? Now? I haven't heard of him until today. Actually, what a

what a jerk? Yeah, that was pretty classless movement. The video of it showing it was even worse than it sounded because he was stalking her and she was trying to avoid him and that be confrontational. She wasn't an old lady and he just would not. He was circling her and getting in her face. It was pretty disgusting. Oh yeah, man, I mean just also as a guy, as a man to corner and harass on the street. You know, an old lady like that who wasn't bothering him.

She was just she She does have a constitutional right, although you'll notice the abortion extremist or as trying to truncate the right to free speech when it comes to opposing abortion. Then you know, you have to keep a certain distance from the clinic and you're not allowed to you know. You know, they're always trying to just be a little totalitarians in favor of the the death cult

that they've been supporting since Roe v. Wade. But you know, Brian Sims, even apart from the substance of this issue, on which he is very very wrong. I believe he's a noted LGBTQ activist as well. That's something that I just read a little bit about this guy that I had never heard about him before. But he approaches a woman's way, and it's so aggressive and so so dishonorable.

I mean, there's just something about being an an able bodied, you know, male in your forties who is going to get up in the face of and really try it. He's trying to scare her. I mean, he's trying to scare away a person that is described and I don't mean this in a mocking way, as a little old lady who is just hoping that she can convince some women don't have an abortion and have the baby that is growing in your womb. Just just do that. That's

a better that's a better decision. Um. You know, go to a crisis pregnancy center where they will help you with this, you know, go to a place where you know, go to your church, go to your synagogue, go somewhere where there will be support for you. Don't don't do this, don't go to Planned parenthood. And yet he thought it was a good idea to harast this woman. I just note that the left has this this this pr in place of how they're the nice ones, you know, they're

the ones that care about people. And I know you know this without be telling you, but it's just it's not true. In fact, I find that the left is, especially when you're talking about the hard left people that are are real ideologues, that are are true progressives, they

are many of the nastiest, h dishonorable. And I really I use that word a lot, I know, but you know, honor is something that you either have or you don't, and it comes from within and and it's about how you carry yourself, how you how you conduct yourself to today, how you interact with people around you? Is your word to be trusted? Do you think of other people and

not just yourself? Do you do you have a sense that you are upholding not just your own reputation, but but but building on your soul day in and day out. I mean, you're actually growing as a human being by the way you interact with other people and the way that you treat them. And you know, do you have some aspiration to be to be decent in your conduct all the time? Do you hold yourself to standards? I mean that's where that's where honor comes from. These progressives,

they think that's like an antiquated nonsense. I mean, they have no interest in being honorable. They have no interest

in being kind and being thoughtful. In fact, many of the worst organizations in media, the very worst organizations in my opinion, that are considered somewhat mainstream, are hard left organizations places like Media Matters for America and uh, you know, or organizations that do all these boycotts and all these efforts to destroy and take down these They're merciless, absolutely mercials. I mean, the progressives are without without decency, without honor,

without mercy. And not only are they getting in an old woman's face here we want of them getting an old woman's face because she doesn't want people to kill babies, but there's really a kind of glee at humiliating this old lady, putting your own video, having the video go viral. Show you know, he was proud of this. He took the video. He wants everyone to see he's humiliating old lady. If I were this guy, I wouldn't be able to

sleep for a month after acting this way. I mean, I would never act this way because I'm not a piece of scum, but he's proud of this progressive It's as much as I want to lect you about Trump and old Trump is so mean and this other thing Trump Trump because a counterpuncher. Trump doesn't, you know, chase around little old ladies and harass them and say horrible things to them, and is really mean to them for no reason. Progressives do that and they're proud of it.

They're proud of it. So I think that's worth remembering the next time I want to give you a lecture about ncy and restoring decency to our politics. Progressivism is oftentimes incredibly indecent in the way that it treats people, and it is always indecent when it comes to the issue of life and abortion and the protection of the unborn. So I just I have a very different takeaway than the State Rep. Ryan Simms here. Why don't you try

that with me sometime. Put put in a little video camera in my face and try to be a tough guy, try to be a smart guy. Simms. We'll see, We'll see how that goes for you. It's a little a little friendly invitation or not so friendly really. For the first time on the Buck Sexton Show Team, I get to introduce you to one of the true professionals in this business and one of the nicest people in the

business as well. She is, of course, the anchor at eleven o'clock on Fox News, and she has a new book out, Finding the bright Side, The Art of Chasing What Matters. We have the wonderful Shannon Bream joining us now. Shannon, thank you for making the time. Buck. I am so happy to be with you. I feel a little funny because usually I'm asking you all the questions. This is quite a role reversal. So well, I'll see if I can if I can get myself into the mindset here, Shannon.

But I want you to just tell me about this book, The Art of Chasing What Matters, why you write it, and what do people need to know? You know what? I think everybody all of us have common threads kind of in life, hitting really tough times and figuring out how you move forward from there. I mean, I share some of the worst and toughest times in my life

for sure. And finding out that I have a genetic illness that there's really no cure for it, unfortunately, and kind of learning to try to advocate for myself in the midst of that, but you know, tough times with my husband as well, going through his own trouble with a brain tumor. And you know, I think everybody in life, it may be a different thing, may be financial, maybe losing someone you love. I mean, I went to some really dark places, but I found hope in that and

came out the other side. And I really wanted the book just to be an encouragement to people that wherever you are, there are good things, there is hope, there are lifelines you can reach out to. And of course I tell a lot of stories where I laugh at myself, and I'm happy to do that so helpfully people who laugh along. But that as well. Now you mentioned your your husband, who I've met, is a great guy, and he seems to be everything. Seems like you know, he's

healthy and going well. Now when you talk about a brain term, though, it's one of the scariest things anybody can hear about anyone, any loved one in moments like that, when you are going through that process, and where did you turn, Where did you turn for strength, and where did you turn to help put you in a position to fight through and come out on the other side.

I mean, for me, the number one thing in my life is my faith, and so I know for a lot of people it's a place of comfort to say, listen, there's a bigger plan than me. This is I believe you know, my faith is a Christian This is not a surprise to God, my father. I mean, he knew this was coming. He's going to walk us through it one way or the other. And so for me, that's that's incredibly comforting and knowing that good or bad, I mean, there is purpose in all of it, and um finding

strength there. And you know, in turn from that, there were complete strangers who were people at churches that would hear about what was going on with my husband and that would send us notes. I mean, these are people that I'll never meet, but they share our faith and wanted to say, hey, we're praying for you, we heard about it through the grapevine, and we're just supporting you.

And that was incredibly encouraging to think people I may never meet this side of heaven wanted to reach out and just say we're with you in this, that there's a broader, you know, world of faith and family of faith that is reaching out to hold up even if you don't know their names, and it's just a beautiful thing.

You know. You see you see someone like you on TV and you're a Fox News anchor, and I'm sure to many of the millions of people who watch your show across the country, and I think this is common. People elevate those who are successful, who have reached a level similar to where you are in your career, but particularly in TV and media, and there's this perception that you know, you've, you've it's just all been lined up

the way it was supposed to be shit. And you know, I hear there's some people all the time about different people. And I'm friendly enough with some of the folks like you who are at the pinnacles of their careers where I could say, well, I could actually tell you a story about you know, and you're telling them obviously in

your book. Do you come across a fair amount of that where people are are just really surprised that it hasn't just been like one string of our victories and ease after another, that you actually had to turn to your faith as well, that you've had struggles that are as very real as anything can get in life. I mean, do come across that when you talk to me about

the book. I sure do. And the thing is, I'm so happy to be vulnerable and transparent about that, because I think when you look at someone and think, oh gosh, their life is so great and easy and everything's fallen into place, I think that can be really discouraging to the average person out there, because we all are average people with struggles and trouble, and so I'm really happy to just kind of pull back the curtain and say, nope, I've been in the dumps before, I've had trouble. And

you know, my first TV job, I got fired. The guy told me I was hideous, the worst person he's ever seen on TV, and I had no chance of making it in this business. And I'd love to tell that to our college associates and young people who come to tour through college and that kind of thing, to say, It's okay, if you get fired, it's going to probably happen to all of us at least once in our lives. But if you have a dream, if you believe in yourself,

if you pick yourself back up, just keep fighting. I mean, you may go in a different direction than you ever thought you would. Certainly that's the case for me, But she may end up in an even better place. And I'm happy to tell people. Listen, I've fallen down a flight of stairs in front of a room full of dignitaries. I mean, I've gotten fired. Whatever it is. I think it's good for people to know. No, there's been a lot of bumps along the road, but you still just

keep fighting, Shannon, What really matters? Before we let you go, I just want to know that it's in the title of the book. For people who are listening, some of them probably right now or having their own you know, at a point in their lives where things aren't adding up the way they're supposed to. They've got their own struggles, their own problems, and hearing from you make of them a bit of inspiration. What really does matter? Yeah, I mean for me, it's not what the world quote unquote

tells you. The money in your bank account, or the cars or the trophy spouse or you know, that promotion. It's really not there. I mean, if you're a person of faith, I think it's in that. I think it's in your relationships and your family and friends. The people who do not care about any of that stuff. They're going to be there with you, side by side through

the good and the bad. And I think being able to be vulnerable and open up to people when you're really struggling, there will always be at least one person, even if it's a stranger, that you can get a lifeline from and keep moving and just ask for help. I mean, I think that relationships are really kind of the fabric of our whole life, and when we're pursuing other things to the detriment of our relationships, we're really missing out on. To me, what matters most, Finding the

bright Side, The Art of Chasing What matters. That's the book by Shannon Bream. You can get it now on Amazon, and Shannon, thank you so much for joining us, and also thank you for being so kind as to have me drop by your Fox show. Always a pleasure and an honor, and best of luck to the book and give the Hubs my regards. I will thank you, Buck and come back soon. All right, thanks so much, Team, We'll be right back, Team Bucking. It's time for roll call.

Roll call time. Everybody who missed the roll call. I missed the roll call. I've been a few days a few days. Although it's kind of a rainy I was gonna tell you it's a great week I had fun this weekend, but it was a rainy weekend here in DC. I want something that good weather. I want to get out there and get a little bit of a little bit of sun on my face. If you find yourself riding in open fields with a son on your face, do not be troubled, for you already dead. You're an

elysium good things. TJ. Whoa TJ? This is? This is an opus? Here you go. Buck. Perhaps this is thinking too much into the future and maybe even counting my eggs before they hatch. But when Trump wins, see what I did there, does it behoove us to be a little more critical of him for his final terms since

there's no reelection we will have to worry about. To me me, it feels like we're cheatering on the potential for a mass conservative revolution that could be led by honest and critical gen xers and millennials like you Shapiro, Crenshaw, Owens, Kirk, and list goes on. But there's a contingency of older school baby boom or conservatives. I won't name names. But you know who they are that can be a little too sycophantic toward the president. I'm sure their tone won't

change for his final term. This intern will leave a sour taste them out. Those conservatives and potential conservatives looking forward to the next chapter of conservatism may even bleed in our next round of presidential candidates for twenty twenty four. Like Crenshaw, I think, for the sake of conservatism, our younger punnits and leaders have louder and more influential thoughts. Well, TJ. I like the idea of me being louder and more influential, so I can sign off for that, and I think

you are. Look, there's there's always going to be some intergenerational tension within any political movement. But I'm somebody who tries to always take the perspective of respect your elders. They know stuff you don't know. They've been through stuff you don't know. I thought I was man. I thought it like twenty six, twenty seven, I was one smooth operator. Smooth operator that wasn't even close to the song, wasn't

that was way off. But I thought I knew a lot of stuff, and thirty seven year old Buck thinks twenty seven year old Buck doesn't know his forehead from his behind. I mean it really, it's amazing, and so I try to remind myself that forty seven year old Buck maybe, like, wow, thirty seven year old Buck had a lot to learn. It's probably gonna be the case. Hopefully he'll still have a lot of hair though. Gina rites hey Bock. Current workout music request, Try within Temptation,

high powered group, great forgetting your heart going. All right, all right, Gina, you know I do like this band for workout purposes, and you guys can all make fun. I like Skillet though I've never heard of them before, but they kind of popped into my Spotify feed, and some of their stuff is good. It kind of reminds me a little bit of a little bit like Evanescence. Remember they had that really big song like ten or fifteen years ago, sort of like that, which if you

like that kind of stuff. I also listened to some very heavy bass hip hop music when I work out, so because I'm cool, you know, I know what the kids listen to. Hello, fellow youth people. Michael writes Buck, is it just mirror when Democrats lose most of their votes if people stop believing their constant lines and half truths. I'm not a Republican, but in my opinion, most a lie seemed to come from the left. Am I just unknowingly biased? Or is this true? Shields High Michael, I mean,

I'd like to agree with you. I might be it might be a little bit simplistic for me to just say, yes, the lies all come from left. There are Republicans who lie to and you say you're not a Republican. I would say this here, here is a real distinction between left and right. I mean this really, This is not trying to be a pundit and get you know, people all riled up or anything like that. This is this is real. I'd like to think everything on the show

is real, but this is real real. The left often has to lie about what they really want and what their end goal is in order to get enough people to go along that they have the power to do what they want to do. So you have people on the left who will pretend, for example, that they don't really want government control of healthcare socialized medicine, when they very much do, but they they're not. You know, they will dissemble, They will, they will hide their true intentions

from the American people. So that because the twenty or thirty percent of America that is true left on issues, it's really more like fifteen to twenty percent. But they know when because because they share the same ideology with the head of the Democratic Party, now that is very progressive. They know what they're really trying to achieve, but they're happy to be dishonest about it along the way. They're happy to tell people untruths as long as it gets them.

So that's whereas Republicans I find tend to say, look, we want we want this. We know it's not perfect, we know there's some trade offs, but this is a thing we want. There's greater honesty about what the Republican Party is trying to achieve than with the Democratic I mean, the open board is another one. I mean, Democrats want open boarders, they just won't say it. They do not

want the enforcement of immigration law. They do not believe that immigration law should be enforced in a way that that makes life more difficult or you know, punishes people that break immigration law. So but they won't say that. So that is that is a difference between Democrats and Republicans and their lies and half truths on the left. I think are are an important They're a feature, not

a bug. Rogers, Okay, Buck, I've really enjoyed your pushing the Russia probe and keeping us aware of all the updates switching gears to Israel. Any good reads on the conflict in history between Palestine and Israel. Thanks Man, Roger. I'm glad you're enjoying the show, and I hope you particularly enjoyed the conversations we had today about what's going on in Israel. I do not have a great reading

list for Israeli Palestinian stuff. I really don't. I mean, I know some of the big names, you know, Tom Segev and obviously Thomas Freedman with from Beyrout to Jerusalem, and you know, I'm familiar with with some of the very well known authors on the subject. But you know, Israeli Palestinian stuff is there's so much on it, and there's so many people that have such deep expertise that you know, you really have to roll up your sleeves and get into it to know what the heck is

going on. It's not a subject where you it's not a subject matter or rather, it's not a subject where you can be a dilettante and not look like one when you're trying to analyze it. I mean, you really have to know where you are on the issue, be honest about that, because there's so many people who all they do is Israeli Palestinian issues. I mean, there's so many people that this is the core of their expertise. So I am not an Israeli Palestinian issue, issue matter,

subject matter expert. And so that's my way of saying, I don't have any great books for you that jump out of that come to mind. But maybe I can ask my friend David, who is this is the issue that he follows more than anything else, and I can post on Facebook a list of them. Wayne writes, Dude, your Bernie impression is getting much better. Well, Dwayne, will I will take the compliment. Well, I think my Bernie

impression has always been fantastic. Book. The may think he gets it right, he knows, he knows that it's about millionaires and billionaires and how care for everyone a right, not a privilege, not just for the rich, the super rich, the fat cats. But yeah, that Bernie's getting better, for sure, definitely. I'm a little sad that Betto like he's not just like doing better in the polls, because I just thought that we'd be talking about Betto for such a long time.

It turns out Betto is he's flamed out. As I've said, Mayor Pete. Mayor Pete came along and stole Bettos tuna fish sandwich. It's all gone now. Stole a sandwich right from in front of him. And I remember I used to like eat Tune a sandwich and chocolate milk. I used to drink so much chocolate milk. The stuff's incredible. Now apparently you know calories and sugar, it's not good for you. Chris writes Buck, I'm the only person who remembers Judge Knapp, or rather, am I the only person

who remembers Judge. I'm claiming British intel involvement and getting suspended from Fox at the beginning of this sad saga. Now Nap is trashing the Orange Adonis, losing all credibility he ever had with me, like a watered down George will funny how the MSM trash Nap then but can't remember that today. Chris, I have always enjoyed my personal interactions with Judgment Politano. He has always been a gentleman

when we've talked. I do not understand what he is trying to accomplish with a lot of his analysis these days. I think that he is I think he's way off, and I think he's not doing himself any favors. So you know, I would not say that. Judge Nap and I are friends, so he doesn't fall into the friend category where I won't say anything negative about him. But he is a good He's always been a good guy to me. I have no complaints about him. I just

think his analysis is way off. I just think he's wrong on this stuff and has been wrong a lot. Every time I see him on Fox talking about something, Muller proble lad to go. That's not right, that's not true. I don't know what's going on there because because because I like the guy, but I think he's just you know, I think he's way off. Team gonna close up shop in the Freedom Hunt for the day. I think we've covered a lot of ground, loot of territory, as we

tend to do. Looking forward to chatting with you all tomorrow. Please tell a friend about the podcast. They can download the Buck Sextit Show on iTunes, share it with somebody this week, and we will talk tomorrow. Shields High

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