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DC Draino - How We Win the Culture War

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Rogan O'Handley is a former Hollywood entertainment lawyer turned conservative commentator and political influencer. Follow him on Instagram @dc_draino.

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You're listening to The Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeart Radio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everybody, Welcome to another episode of The Buck Sexton Show Deep Dive Session with the asked for the greatly anticipated Rogan o'hanley, best known to many of you as DC drain No. He is DC Draino on Twitter, on Instagram, on all the places where he shares his memes, his commentary, and his

fighting for America. Rogan, which I have to remember to call you because you'd not actually call you DC Drado, but Rogan, you call me Drado. That's fine, Draino. That's cool. Good to see you, man. How are you. How's everything going. I'm doing well. I've got my Florida Man shirt on to honor the great land that we live in. But

thank you for having me on, brother, Thank you. Well, you know I'm I'm a Florida transplant as well, and I just look like a guy who threw in a T shirt after waking up from a nap, which I also feel like is very Florida in its own way. There was a great meme. It's a what's something that's classy if you're rich, but trashy if you're poor. And the guy goes Florida. I saw that. Are you a wide range? Are you active on on? You know, there's whole many, so many things you saw. You saw Trump recently.

I want to ask you about that. You know, how is the Trump camp doing right now? What do you think about twenty twenty forty? Are you sure Biden, for example, is going to run. We've got He's Palestine to discuss a whole whole range of things that I want to get today with you. But TikTok, you know, they they're moving closer and closer it seems to actually banning it. Are you active on TikTok? Are are you an anti TikTok guy? Because you know you've built this massive presence

millions of people on Instagram and other platforms. What do you think about TikTok? So when TikTok first came out, I jumped all over it. I quickly felt very uncomfortable and far too old for TikTok, And it was tough to relay my type of content, which is very anti Deep State, to such a young, specifically young audience. You know, on Instagram, you get such a wide range, but especially in people in their thirties and forties. For TikTok, it

was tough. So I got like two hundred thousand followers on there, but then I kept getting censored and it was the most censored platform out of all of them, which is saying something, and so I gave up. I didn't post for like two years, and I just deleted it right around the Chinese spy balloon incident because I was like, how am I gonna, you know, talk about the surveillance balloon while I still have the surveillance app on my phone? So I am, you know, completely off TikTok.

And I guess, why do they even need the balloons? If everyone's you're carrying around the surveillance balloon in your hand. At least that's what they're tal on us. That's what That's what TikTok actually is. I'd say I like to watch TikTok sometimes just because if you're into quick recipes, grilling meat, homemade knives and tools, but particularly there's a lot of blade smiths on TikTok, Like there's cool content on there. Unfortunately, there has nothing to do with China.

Chinese Communist Party, but apparently it's carrying around a spy balloon in your hand, which is probably not a good thing. Yeah, I mean it's a very addictive platform. I used to, you know, look at it a fair amount. I really haven't looked at that much in the last couple of years. But I am actually very pro banning TikTok. For one, it will get rid of a you know, Chinese spy

platform in the United States. And two, all those people are going to disperse across other platforms where you and I are far more prominent and where we enjoy those platforms more. And so I think it actually helps um the other platforms. I wouldn't be surprised if the people leading the charge against it are Facebook, Google, you know, uh, Snapchat, etc. Because they're such a strong Ti TikTok is definitely beating

all the other platforms. You know, Snapchat for a little while was the kind of young, you know, the next generation platform that was really scaring Facebook and all that. But I think Snapchat has really has really fallen off. Also, this whole idea that people have of like, oh, you can take a photo or whatever incentive somebody and it disappears forever. No, it's actually not how the internet works.

So you know this is you know, I think when people realized that some of the Snapchat features weren't really what they thought they were. Um, but beyond that, uh, now it's TikTok. I mean TikTok from what I can see from the data. And you know, Josh Holly was on our radio show recently talking about how he wants to ban social media for kids under sixteen. I mean, the more I look at this, the more I feel like, yeah, I I actually believe I don't think the twelve year

old should be on social media. Why why would you want to be on social media as a twelve year old? You know why you wouldn't want unregulated discourse, meaning just like you're twelve year olds, you know, interacting with other twelve years you know, you want parent parental supervision around them, right, I mean, you know you don't have kids yet. I

don't have kids, you know what I mean? So so this notion that you should have not even just kids, but the global internet when you're twelve, eleven, ten, thirteen, fourteen, I think I totally get it. Man. I think Josh Holly's I think he's right. Even if it's not a government mandate thing, we can get it, whether government should be mandating it or not. I don't think people should be letting their kids have social media at such a young age, just based on what we all know it

can do. Yeah, I think as more science comes out about what it does to it, especially developing brain, I don't think adults should have access to social media on some days. Yeah, you know, even you know you or me. I'm a pretty strong minded person, but I mean I'll come across some stuff I'm like, what did I just watch? I mean, it will it will drastically affect my mood.

But you know, for kids to not only be subjected to these types of images and videos and graphics, and then to also deal with the social ramifications of doing something in high school that was maybe embarrassing and just having this kind of group harassment campaign, I mean, look at harassment campaigns on Twitter, right, I mean obviously that's happening in high schools, and you know, kids kill themselves over this stuff. So I'm actually open to a band.

Uh maybe not sixteen, maybe fourteen and under or something to maybe fifteen, I don't know, I think it's absolutely something that should be debated and there should be some limitation at a minimum. Look, I mean also, and I know this is part of of another another thread to the discussion too, but they often talk about how for for young girls it creates this completely unrealistic embody image issue.

And you know, there're some there's some really horrifying statistics about how many young young women across the country have considered self harm um in the in the last year, and and there's a lot of psychological durests for young girls that as they measure this, as it's self reported,

it has been getting worse and worse. I also think that for a lot of young men, and not even that young, but you know, guys up into their their teenagers, for example, they can also have I mean, the short way of putting this is that these guys that they're seeing who are who are like you know, these these physical specimens, the amount of steroid use, you know, tremblone, HGH, you know, TRT, all this stuff that goes into creating a lot of these uh, these persona accounts and social

media like you know, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen year old guys and and guys. Honestly, a lot old that too need to know this stuff isn't real, folks, or at least there's there's a component to the reality that they're not aware of that I think can create real distortions. And I mean, do you do you see this too? There are whole accounts whe people are talking about how they use steroids just just for aesthetics. Yeah, no, one hundred percent.

I mean people accused me of using steroids because I'm so jacked, and it's, you know, constant rumors I have to dispel. Um, I know it is you and liver King, and liver King's already gotten got so you better watch out. Rogan. I know, I I'm completely kidding, but um yeah, some people are only listening to other people. So just to your case for the podcast people, he was doing his bicep thing like Popeye. And while Rogan is a is a is a hard throb for the lady who'll off

the market now Mary like yours. Truly, I don't think wedding ring, I don't think. I don't think anybody believes either of us are taking steroids anyway, keep going, um and and so yeah, I mean there's there's clearly you know,

toxic life styles uh that are portrayed there. And you know, again I'm not opposed to education and learning about things, UM, but I think I remember there were was it Steve Jobs or other Silicon Valley big wigs who basically said they would never allow their kids on social media until they're full grown adults. And it's like, what do they

know that we don't know? You know, these things are designed to be addictive, um, and we're learning that not only social media, but things like porn and other things. They really do change your your dopamine uh you know system, basically your your reward system, and it leads you down to depressing paths um and just just a bad, unhealthy lifestyle.

So uh, like I said, I do think there needs to be an absolute limitation for younger kids U. And uh, you know, I I think TikTok should be banned just by virtue of the fact that China is our greatest national threat. And you know, it's very clear that their TikTok algorithms over there are designed to make their kids like fit and you know, aggressive and assertive and leaders. And the TikTok platform here is designed to promote all the woke ideologies and to ban and sense are all

conservative ideologies. So you're just getting a funnel system of the future of America being steered by a foreign communist country's algorithm. And for that alone, I think it should be banned. Yeah, I'm a person who often tells people that I think it's really instructive to read. You know,

the KGB archives were. If we're uncovered after the fall of the Wall, the Metroken archives, people will refer to it as and you can see the active measures and the different clandestine operations of Russian intelligence against the United States in a whole range of ways, much more pervasive than people learn in school. Much broader penetrations by the Communist Party of the United States were very real. The Red Scare was actually fear mongering in the wrong direction,

as in telling people that it wasn't really happening. I mean, for God's sakes, they stole our nuclear technology. I mean, you know, the most sensitive stuff was targeted about the Soviets. If they could have convinced all of our children in our homes that they were one of thirty eight genders or whatever, and that masculinity was toxic, the Soviets would have had a field day with it. I mean they would,

They would have absolutely loved what. Now, obviously the Chinese Communist Party is able to do as our near peer competitor. I want to get back to the censorship point through in a second. So I wonder how that's affected you. For example, you know, you're prolific on Instagram. You've got over two million Instagram followers, which is huge, and you know, and you're not a bikini model, so it means that you actually have to do content that people are interested

in beyond just look at me. I'm really not that you're not you know, I'm sure you know the ladies, as I said, but you're doing a lot of content that a lot of people are seeing. I want to know what kind of censorship you're actually coming up against. So put a pin of that for one second, Dreino, because I want to also talk about our sponsor here from the Tunnels of Towers Foundation. Tunnel to Towers does

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getting shadow banned all that. It's a good question. So first off, I just got my Twitter back after being banned for two years, So congratulations, by the way, welcome back, thank you. And you know, I've currently got a lawsuit. I'm represented by Harmat Dylan and we had our hearing in the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals three months ago. So any day now we could wake up and there is a major ruling that could impact all of us because all big tech cases go through the Ninth Circuit.

So we're not optimistic necessarily because the Ninth Circus Court of Appeals is a little bit leftist, not as leftist as it used to be, thank you to President Trump, but still leftists. And so then it's onto the Supreme Court after that. But you know, it ties in with the Twitter files. It was the state of California that requested that I'd be censored, and then I was banned for discussing election irregularities. I don't know what platform this will be played on, but I'll you know, people can

fill in the blanks there. And yeah, so we had the smoking gun emails. We caught them. Thus far, My experience back on Twitter has been great, better than when I left off. It is a breath of fresh air to have so much freedom of speech being on Instagram. Instagram is very high least censored. They have the fact checkers, PolitiFact lead stories. UH there's there's at least ten other associated press. I got fact checked when there are Chinese tanks rolling down a street in front of their bank

when people couldn't withdraw the money. I got fact checked when I posted that the next day by the Associated Press saying they talked with an employee nearby who said that it was a military training exercise, nothing to do with and it was written by like a Chinese author, and you know, based in Beijing or wherever. And I'm like, oh my gosh, the Chinese are censoring us. You're getting

fined Qinwa State News agency over there. Yeah, there's no one that works for UH in any type of Chinese enterprise or Chinese office satellite office of a company that isn't a government agent. So of course it polit a fact I said, you know, Joe Biden is a child predator, and they fact checked that, saying that there's no evidence of any crimes he's committed against children. I mean, the lengths that they go to to protect the regime is insane, and so no, I have not noticed a decrease in

the censorship on other platforms. However, I am optimistic that as Elon leads the way, we're starting to see copycat moves by these other big tech platforms. Two moves in particular, one firing a bunch of people. Elon was the first

one to do it, and they all followed suit. And now Facebook and Instagram are going to allow you to buy a blue check, which I personally do not have this by having over two million followers, and it'll include customer service priority in the explore feature, So that's something they followed Elon's lead on. So I'm curious what else.

Maybe the open source algorithm that Elon is promising, maybe showing why you are suspect ended or showing whether or not you have any shadow band applicable to your account. Maybe they'll copy that stuff. So I do thank Elon overall. I mean I have been saying this to people for a while that only in social media it has it been somehow deemed Don't we know why? Because it's such

a huge advantage for the left. And it's really the social media companies are certainly have a lot more money and are more powerful than any of the legacy media companies. And it's not even close, right, I mean, Google is arguably there what the three three wealthiest, three most powerful countries companies, Rather it could be a country on the planet, and you add some of the others in there as well. I mean that the amount of money that they have and the amount of reach they have is truly is

truly mind blowing. But even beyond that, there's no other business where, you know, for example, with your credit card company, they couldn't be like, hey, sorry, we turned you over to collections and you're like, well why, Like what do I owe you? They're like, sorry, how much do I owe you? We can't tell you. All you know is you've been turned the collections in your card to shut down, right, I mean, you wouldn't accept that. That's been happened to

people in social media for years now. You get, you get get emailitized, you get you know, and there's no explanation. They don't care. They just say sorry, we've decided and that's it. Yeah, I wish they said sorry. They say nothing. You just can't even sign in. No one responds to

your emails. And that's it, and and it's it's it's wrong, and it will be illegal at some point because if you spend years and hundreds of thousands of dollars building up a following or a business and uh, it just gets taken out from you one day because of some arbitrary fact checker or some arbitrary application of their community guidelines, which are so broadly written that literally anything can be egal. It's just a form of fraud. It's just fraud. I mean,

you're taking from people under false pretenses. It is um. I am again highly optimistic that my lawsuit will change things across the country. A. I'm represented by the best civil rights attorney in the country, Harmy Dylan b. We have seen in the Twitter files that the government is so directly intertwined with the censorship apparatus that it's indistinguishable between big tech. I mean, so many of the ex agents worked there and the coordination just exposing the Twitter

files and that's just a tip of the iceberg. That's just Twitter. Imagine what's going on at Facebook, which is a much bigger company and more users and especially Google, so tip of the iceberg. And the problem is there's no recourse against this. Obviously Section to thirty protects them.

But even my case, which was a First Amendment violation because the government said, hey, literally censored DC drain now and we have the email, and the judge, the federal judge in the Northern District of California, still said Nope, not enough to government collusion. I'm like, what is going on here? You know, I feel like I'm in the So the big tech is the most powerful force in nature on planet Earth. I would say, if you if you can silence the sitting president of the United States,

what is more powerful than that? Only God? In my opinion, Well,

you know, I wonder if you'd agree with this. That The an argument I've made from the beginning of the pandemic is that the pandemic restrictions and everything that happened was only possible because everybody was carrying around these state collusion propaganda machines in their hands all the time, or you know, on their screens computers, smart TVs, etc. Like, the only way you could convince people that we haven't lost our minds as a society when there are little

places little foot pads on the sidewalk in New York City outside to show people how far apart to stand in line before they go indoors to a grocery store where they're going to be just shoulder to shoulder. If the only way you could convince people that that's not insane is if you have a propaganda apparatus that includes social media twenty four to seven enforcement of the narrative, right,

like you wouldn't just newspapers wouldn't have been enough. At least that's my thesis, Like just just the newspapers, I wouldn't have done it. I completely agree, and you know, but for every measure, there's a countermeasure. And it was also a place for people like you and me and others to say, hey, this is crazy, right, And you know, I had a lot of people mentioned that because you

feel they want you to feel isolated. They obviously were censoring so many people Harvard stand for doctors, anyone that questioned the narrative. But I've had people remark, you know, I knew it was crazy, but thanks to you know, your posts and just these comments sections everything, I didn't feel alone because it's like, oh, okay, few because remember

we were all isolated and our houses. For the most part, people are too scared to travel, so they shut us down from bars, schools, everybody shut us down so we couldn't talk to each other and say, hey, this is all crazy, right, and then they distract you online. But I think one very interesting effect of all this is the explosion of Florida into a deep, you know, red state of which you are now a resident. And I think it is a very interesting phenomenon overall. I mean,

I've certainly never seen anything. Because I want to talk to you more about that. Let's talk about the Florida, the Florida phenomenon, on the Florida Revolution. And you know, there are two very important Republican politicians who call Florida home, and one of them, our former president you had dinner with recently. You talked to him just a couple of weeks ago. I want to ask you about that too.

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code buck for twenty five percent off. All right, Rogan, let's start with Trump dinner. I'm assuming you're at what Mara Lago out on the patio, folks are gathered around. You're there with the one and only forty five. What can you tell us? It was incredible. I'm still kind of processing that, you know, I was even invited to that. It's kind of funny. If you've ever been Tomorrow Lago,

it's absolutely beautiful. You're basically it's a usable museum. It's, you know, one of the biggest houses in America, so lavish, gold plated everything. It was owned by the Post family, who was believed to be the richest woman in the world at the time. The Post you know, serial heiress, and Trump is actually really funny. So it's a social club, so you know, you'd pay a huge fee and you get to go there and have dinners and you know the pools and the events. Trump DJs with his iPad

almost every night that he's there. He's out there grabbing dinner. He's got a cordoned off table amongst you know, ten or fifteen other tables, and it's a great menu, great food. But he'll he'll sit there while he's drinking his diet Coogan, eat his dinner with an iPad propped up, and he'll just pick different songs. And so while we're at dinner, he's like, Hey, you gotta hear this song by Elvis. So you like this song? You like Elvis, you like, listen to this song. It just and he DJ's the

whole time. He's like, oh my gosh, Pavarotti. Let me tell you about Pavarotti. And then he'll play Pavarotti while telling about this time that he, you know, hired him to sing at some event in New York City. And he let me just say that Trump is in top form. He is well rested, he is very spirited, he's he's laughing a lot, he's sharp as attack. He knows. I think his policy videos have been very impressive adapting to the current times, with what we're facing. He's not just

replaying the twenty sixteen glory days. He's adapting to what's going on now. He's anti ESG, he's anti woke, he's really fighting for free speech on the internet. He's you know, protecting parents' rights in schools and you know, so he's he's he's modernized his campaign and he is you know. That was kind of my biggest thing. I was like, how sharp is this guy? You know, I know he's getting a little older this he's on top of it.

He's seems fifteen twenty years younger than Biden is currently, which I know isn't saying much because Biden is practically drooling. But it was an incredible dinner. We talked about literally everything. We're there for like three hours. I've never drank more diet coke in my life, but I was like, hey, if you're with has one does yeah, sure of course, Yeah, you're a drinking diet coke, rogan um draino. Yeah. Ken Trump win twenty twenty four, so I don't think anyone

can win twenty twenty four without fixing election fraud. Um, I am slightly optimistic that we have fixed enough states where if they don't have a catastrophic pandemic, world War three cyber attack, that we can overwhelm the fraud, that we don't have this mass mail in ballot situation. I think we can overwhelm the fraud. But overall, I do think Trump has the best chance to do that. I think the primary is done and done. Um, you know,

I love this Sanis. I am a huge, huge fan to Santus, but he's gonna be splitting Trump's leftovers with at least five or six maybe more other candidates, and that's just gonna be really hard to beat Trump's you know, forty to fifty locked in percent. So I do think he can absolutely win. He got more votes in than any other Republican in twenty twenty. We all know what happened, but I'm I'm highly I want him there, and then

I want to Satis for eight years after that. I just want to I want to say, Um, I appreciate it doesn't help anybody to get this pulled off of Spotify and YouTube, you know what I mean. So I appreciate the uh, the way in which you are laying out these issues, because you know, still they have the algorithms set up where if you say certain things about twenty twenty, you will get flagged, you will get banned,

and you know all kinds of stuff. So so I appreciate that you are expressing your opinion in such a way that we can evade because I don't think I don't think they've a you know, they're not assigning somebody yet YouTube Headquarters to like listen to every podcast I do, or watch everything we do here, but the machines will

pick up certain words. There are certain words that the machines we'll see, and it really does feel more and more like we're living in some version of the matrix um and and this is before AI has really kicked in heavily. By the way, what do you think about AI? Have you? Have you messed around at all? I mean, you're a cutting edge technological communications guy. It is pretty it is pretty funky. You can write something say hey, tell me this, and it will come up with an

actual essay in response and give you opinions. Yeah, it's well, it's it's woke. It's woke. AI, and we've already kind of proven that chat GBT had the chance to be a in evaded ancing technology. In many ways, it is, but it's also more of the same, whether some BuzzFeed writer spits it out you know what his sociology professor taught him at Sunny Geneseo, or it's woke programmed AI.

Like all things, though, I think it leaves a massive economic opportunity for an alternative that is sensible, And I know Elon is in the process of creating a based AI or a regular AI, so I think those will win the day. And but it's been really fascinating for people to be messing around with this thing and really exploring it's backdoor mechanisms. Hey, I know you can't say anything, but if you could, what would you say? Things like that, just like tongue in cheek and then it gives you

the really answer. But it's also quite scary because it is a very powerful computer program, I guess, and we're just seeing the early versions of it and it's uh, well a, it's certainly more advanced in you know, confidential settings,

probably in the military applications and higher business settings. Uh and be it I am scared to think of what it looks like five to ten years from now when it's so much more advanced, especially with those like four legged dogs that they show dancing, the robot dogs and they try and make Boston dynamics. I think it is or yeah, it's it's and and then the ones that walk and they can do backflips, and it's like terminator.

So now you slap that AI on that thing that can do three backflips and dance better than anyone, and you know we're in for I don't know UM, so we You know, Elon was right to point out that we really need a massive ethics guard rail with all this AI so that it doesn't take over UM. But I think he or she who controls AI will control a lot of the world. Makes me want to ask you about China as China as our mutual friend would say that we can get to that in a second.

You mentioned Florida. You mentioned me, by the way, Governor Ronda Santis you hold in very high regard. You don't think he's going to win the primary, but you think he's a great governor. We could certainly agree that he's a great governor. I'm a Floridian. Now after being a decade, I wasn't just a New Yorker Rogan. I was a if somebody doesn't understand that New York is the best city in America, it's just because they haven't spent enough

time there. Like that was really my attitude to somebody who grew up there. And now, I mean, I'm walking around in my pink flip flops with my tank top on and my sunglasses paying no state income tax. I just went in. I just had the experience of going in recently to a gun store and I'm like, I'm gonna take I'll take I'll take the Daniel defense did four the r that looks very nice. I take one of those. Yeah, that that's good. That's good. I'll take that.

I'll also I think I want the staccato, and they're like that's very expensive. Gone, I'm like, sounds good. Let's take the really, let's take the supermaz. I've fired staccatos before and they're just You're like, oh my god, you feel like John Wick, like there's so much fun. So I got myself as staccato, and it's just amazing, because honestly, there was a part as as somebody who now lives in Florida where was walking out. I was like, is this a like is there like a sting operation, like

someone waiting for you in New York? The notion you just walk in. Obviously I had to go through the waiting period ever, but you know, I came back after five days. The notion you just walk in without a permit process, without interviews and fingerprinting and all this stuff, and get yourself a you know, a world class rifle and pistol and not worry that like the NYPDS can rest you the second you walk out of the store.

I mean, that's just one example for me of just it's amazing how much better life is in so many ways in these Red states now. It really does make a difference. It really is different. Welcome to America. I went through the same process. I came here from California and my AAR at the time could only hold ten rounds. And you couldn't even just push the button to drop the magazine. You had to stick a pin in a little hole to push it. It was like the workaround.

It couldn't have like a detached magazine, I mean, And I got it fixed out here and I've got, you know, many more guns, the Florida versions, which are you know, real guns. It's amazing. Um. The good thing about Florida two is if you have your carry concealed permit, you can just walk out of the store with a gun. You don't have to wait. And we're getting rid of the carry concealed permit. We're gonna be a constitution ferry st Yeah soon. Um. And we got some work to

do on our two way stuff. We've really led the country on the culture war, but we have read flag laws. They enacted those after Parkland, and you know, to my knowledge, I have not really been utilized. But we got to get rid of those. And I think we should also be an open carry state. I think, you know, there's a few other things that we can do, but Florida is I think it's fascinating how many prominent conservatives have

moved here. I feel like that we all know, no matter what happens, who's in the White House, who takes over, Florida will will always be free. There's a snowball's chance in hell of any Democrat winning this state, especially if they're in line with the current platform of the Democrat Party, which is Marxist. And we have such a deep bench of talent. I mean, think about even if we didn't have Rond De Santas, we got Matt Gates, we got Byron Donalds, we got Greg Stubie, we got Anna Paulina Luna.

And that's just the people that are currently elected, never mind the deep bench of political talent. Charlie kirkliffs here, you live here, I live here, Bennie Johnson, Dan Bongino, and Coulter Tucker, Carlson, Sean Hannity half the year with Tucker. So you've pretty much been Shapiro, You've pretty much got oh, Seth Dillon. Um, I know I can sit Down'm like keep going, Carol Margo Wits is down here, Dave Ruben is down here. Like there's all of these, all these

you use it or keep going and going. By the way, it is the greatest concentration of right wing media talent in one state ever. Yes, And I would say that we are the strongest and densest Republican stronghold on planet Earth. I think we are where if if freedom dies in Florida, it dies everywhere. And so I am hoping and I firmly believe, you know, as scary as AI is, we are building such a powerful media ecosystem with independent journalism.

I mean, think of how far we've come just in two or three years, never mind five or six years. I mean I didn't even have an account five or six years ago, and now I've got what over four million combined. And look at the growth that Charlie kirkis had, Dan Bongino has had, Candice Owens, all these names have literally hundreds of millions of followers that just didn't exist five years ago. And Rumble, you know, is a massive

growing platform. You know, all these podcasts are exploding in popularity, Daily Wires turning into basically a mainstream media conglomerate with a conservative perspective. You know, Jordan Peterson is selling out arenas to talk about I mean, we are really this is a very pivotal moment, in a very historic moment in American history where there is a true, peaceful conservative revolution rising up to take back this country because the

entire world is at stake. I mean, what we're facing here in America's impacting the whole world, and I frankly think a lot of it comes from the wef why hasn't Biden gone to East Palestine Rogan because he when it comes down to it, he hates the American people. He doesn't even like Democrats. Biden is a sock puppet for a criminal. Again, We're on these platforms for a criminal cartel that is looting the US treasury, laundering it overseas eighty five billion, and weapons for the Taliban one

hundred billion to Ukraine. We've got an open border flooding the country with people who are not American and who did not do not grow up with our heritage and our culture, and our education system and our understanding of our freedoms. They want to dilute the American vote. They want to give these people voting rights. And what they did in Afghanistan, where they disgraced what our military fought for for so many years and people gave their lives for what he did when he let that Chinese spy

balloon fly over the country undisturbed. What he did when he brought back the w NBA player but not the US marine. These are all intentional acts. When he checked his watch during the funeral, the procession for the soldiers coming home from Afghanistan, these are all intentional acts. He's not visiting Ohio on purpose. He is trying to demoralize the United States because when it comes down to it, this is the third term for Obama, and Obama was

doing this in his last term. He was at the funeral of the five Dallas cops killed by a BLM radical. He demonized cops in his eulogy. It is an intentional They hate America. That's the whole woke movement. America's this racist country that doesn't deserve our respect. And these people that rose up and supported Trump, this uprising, they need

to be put back in their place. They need to be demoralized, crushed, and stuffed back into complacency so that the criminal cartel in DC can continue to loot and destroy this great country. Do you think we're gaining ground right now in the culture war and key areas? I mean one place where I've seen a lot of action. You mentioned Delhi Wire before. You know, Matt Walsh did

that great movie, um What Is a Woman? And I've seen now a number of states and acting legislation, including my, uh my friend Governor Stid of Oklahoma getting rid of gender transition surgery for miners. You know, I want to know you're feeling on this, because on the one hand, it feels like, Okay, we're starting at we're getting some momentum in some important eraas and the others it feels like,

oh my god, we're really at this point. You know, you see some of the stuff on libs of TikTok, for example, that that that Hia is showing everybody that the libs are doing. And on the on the one hand, yeah, people need to see this, they didn't know about it, but also, I mean, good god, Rogan, you see some of the stuff they're doing at these family friendly drag shows or whatever they got they got, you know, middle aged men gyrating their butts in the faces of small children.

They've got like thongs on. It's like it's appalling, And this is where we're fighting. So are we winning or are we defending on our own five yard line? Well, the crazy thing is those those things are already illegal. There's just a lack of integrity with enforcing you know, indecency in front of children. Thankfully, in Florida, you know,

we are taking a much stronger stance. There was a one of those drag shows at in Orlando bar and to Santa's revoked their liquor license after so they'll be out of business soon, and that that sends a message to all the other establishments and they're not going to rest losing their entire business to push awoke, you know, exploitation of children. Are we winning? Yes? Does it feel

like it? Not? Always we are. There is more momentum on Second Amendment rights, on restoring election integrity, on awakening parents to what this Marxist movement has been trying to do to our children. As aggressive and insane as the left has gotten, it has a counter reaction amongst people. Nature finds a balance, and as they push harder to the left, more and more people are waking up on the right in the middle. I've personally seen a material

shift in Elon Musk and Joe Rogan's political opinions. I think they both used to be pretty middle of the road people, and then California treated them so badly they both got pushed out, and now they're I wouldn't say they're necessarily necessarily conservatives, but what is even a conservative at this point? A common sense, regular independent American that doesn't think a naked man dressed as a woman should

dance in front of children. I mean, the left has gone so far left that just regular prior center left people are considered conservatives at this point. So, um, this is unsustainable long term. And it kind of feels like the movement trying to destroy a country is in a little bit of a death rattle, that they're losing their grip on power and their ability to deceive people, especially with more and more free speech coming out on social media, that they're just going all out and those types of

regimes just simply don't last. So as painful as this is at times, the big picture is that we are the white blood cells of humanity are coming to vanquish this, this evil movement. Frankly, I think it's demonic, and so I think people. I think there is a you know, a bit of an awakening in this country. Um, and then we'll have to save the rest of the world after Well, Rogan, you're certainly doing your part. Everybody should go check out DC Draino on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, follow

the accounts he puts out there. One thing that you do, it's so important, is is obviously fighting on the right messages and and pushing the principles. It's funny. You're right, it's not even conservative and just decent and American and true. That's if you're a If you're a decent, truth abiding American. It feels like you're a conservative these days, even if people don't even identify that way. But what you do,

I think is is so important. And also the mockery of the left, this is always, it's true of all tyrants. The thing that cannot abide is mockery. The thing and you know this better than most, Rogan, the thing that you know when the DC Draino account posts something that hits too too close to home, it burns them, man,

And it is great. It upsets those those lunatic marks demons, and that's a good thing for everybody, everybody in the country and actually for them too, because maybe they'll actually decide that they're going to abandon the lunacy that they

have adopted. Brogan. Great to be with you, man, Thank you so much for having well, definitely want to have you back as the elections going on, So I hope you come back and hang out with us and at school that you're getting a chat with me and obviously Clay and Buck audience learning more about your work through it so DC Drone everybody stay in the fight, my friend. Thanks for making the time, Thank you for having me. Buck, keep it up, brother God Bus

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