DC Braces for Transfer Of Power

analysts he's a great guy. No. Finally, it seems the obvious is something that the Libs, the Democrats will say out loud when it comes to lockdown, only a few of them, mind you, it's just beginning to happen. But for the first time, you're starting to see articles. You're seeing discussion from politicians like the governor of New York Andrew Cuomo, the mayor of Chicago, America's third largest city, Lori Lightfoot, and now a Newsweek piece COVID lockdowns have

no clear benefit versus other voluntary measures. International study shows. So that's something that I've been saying for a long time, but now we can actually talk about it. And this is interesting. There is a coincidental timing, it seems. Now there's also the timing one would expect the vaccines were approved in December, and now we're getting into middle of January and things. We're halfway into the winter here, So obviously I get it there would be more of a

light at the end of the tunnel, feel. But just yesterday you had Joe Biden telling everybody about his one point eight trillion dollar reopen plan to save America, And now you're also seeing the beginnings the first, the first few conversations happening publicly about maybe these lockdowns weren't such a good idea. Oh really, just before inauguration day, right right when we're about to see a change in government, there's the seeds of sanity being planted. I'm very pleased

about that makes me happy. It should have happened a long time ago. And I also I can't help but take something of a cynical view about all this, because, for example, the Joe Biden rescue plan that's been talking about here one point eight trillion dollars, How do you oppose that when what you're going to be opposing is

the rescue of America from COVID. How can you say there's too much spending going on when a lot of that spending will be money that should have been spent months and months ago, but Nancy Pelosi thwarted it and the Democrats stopped it. How do you deal with all that? What do you do? What political opposition will Republicans really be able to put up? I think the answer is not a whole lot. Oh, we're going to start the usual we're spending too much money conversation. Is that where

it's going to go. Fine, we can do that, and it's true, it's not that that's not accurate, But we didn't talk about that for four years. Occasionally I used to say on this show, I know nobody wants to hear about it, but we're spending too much money as a government. Right, the treasury was profligant in its spending, and when the good times were happening, and they were until COVID for three years of Trump's presidency, nobody wanted to hear about it. It was just something that was

happening in the background. Be quiet, maga, look at the stock market. That was the attitude. Now I understand how that happened, but we now I also have to face the reality of Democrats coming in with united control of the government and being able to say, not only did Republicans not curb their spending, but they have this added mission of saving America from COVID, which is going to

require a ton of spending. And just like can you see the parallels with two thousand and eight, Just like when Obama came into office in two thousand and nine, he won the two thousand and eight election, and it was a trillion dollars stimulus package, remember that, And that sounded like a lot of money, didn't it. It It is

a lot of money. We're looking at one point eight trillion right now, basically double and that's after spending trillions in the last in the last twelve months, in addition to the enormous federal alley that was planned before COVID. So Biden is also being set up here to be the savior in a sense, right he is the cure. You can almost write the headlines right now, and he's going to be able to get away with them. But

it's not even Biden. He's just a figurehead. The Democrat machinery around him is going to be ramming through whatever they want all under this ages of COVID. That's what they'll do, all under this COVID situation, and if you oppose it, they'll say that you don't want America to be better off and you don't want Americans to be taken care of during this terrible and difficult time. So what does that leave us with? That leaves us with

a very challenging case to make. Here, we're going to have Republicans who have no actual political authority and who are on the precipice of getting steamrolled on the filibuster, which I think is also going to happen. You see that that then becomes the trip wire. Biden has this one point a trillion and you're looking through all this stuff. You know, fifteen dollars minimum way, it's got all these things in it, right, fifteen dollars minimum way, it's two

thousand dollars payments to individuals. You know that there's gonna be a whole lot of other stuff in there. There is a whole lot of other stuff in there that has nothing to do with saving America from COVID. But it's money that democrats, it's your money that Democrats want to spend on favored constituencies. But just like with the financial crisis in two thousand and nine, right, A crisis is a terrible thing to waste. They are already setting this up. It's a replay to borrow from Yogi Barra.

It is deja vu all over again. We're seeing right now the Democrats. Really it's almost like doing Obama Administration two point zero or Obama administration reducts approach to the beginning of the Biden administration, and we're gonna have some of the same challenges. You want to oppose the one point eight trillion dollars in spending. Oh, I'm sorry. You don't want two thousand dollars checks in people's hands after this pandemic. Oh, you just want giveaways for corporations, Is

that right? You don't want the money to be spent at the level it is right now because Nancy Pelosi was blocking it for obviously political reasons. Who cares. People still want their money. And if you look at the way they got Obamacare through, which also happened when they had a unified Congress and executive branch under the first Obama our first two years of Obama's presidency, if you look at what happened, what do we remember about the

Obamacare debate? Oh, it was big. It was unwieldy. There was all this stuff in Obamacare, but ultimately it was you can stay in your parents insurance until you're twenty six and pre existing conditions that was in. There was all this other stuff, I mean medical device taxes and exchanges and all these things, and ultimately Obamacare just created in the individual market winners and losers chosen by the government. Some people were getting less and paying more, other people

were getting more and paying less. It was just shifting around those costs. It did not create a better, cheaper, safer, more effective healthcare system. That didn't happen. And the way that it expanded most of its coverage was actually through Medicaid, which is a healthcare welfare system as we know that has pretty bad long term healthcare outcomes because a lot of providers in a lot of places won't take it because the very low reimbursement rates and that's the only

way they keep costs down. So while they say you're covered, your access to care is actually not particularly strong. This is also known as a shortage or what ends up in rationing when there are shortages. So that's all that we talked about though during that debater, or I should say that was what the media focus was. Guess what, Right now, they're going to say, it's about two thousand dollar checks and a fifteen dollar minimum wage, and Republicans

couldn't stop this even if they wanted to. So what you're going to see is Republicans make some noise about it, get beat up by the Democrats verbally in talking about in the Congress. Here they're gonna just smack them around and say, oh, I'm sorry, you don't want checks to Americans. And if they really try to stand fast on this, when if they if they really try to block this massive spending package, then what happens is they're they're going to get rid of the filibuster in a way that

nobody's even gonna be upset about. I mean, yes, the people like me will say, oh my gosh, this is the strategy, and I see what they're doing. But what's really going to happen is that they will they will use this as an opportunity on something popular. This is me telling you they are setting that they know what they're doing. Forget about Biden. This is about the Democrat think tanks and activist groups and packs and their staffs

and their little wonks. They understand how to set this up so that what looks like the rescue plan for America is just a complete open playing field for whatever else Democrat want to do, including perhaps once you get rid of the filibuster, it's going to be gone. So they're daring Republicans. Yeah, try to filibust and by the way, Republicans don't have the backbone to do it anyway. And

then you add to that the prospect. Remember two thousand dollars checks, fifteen dollar minimum wage, those are very popular issues. It is unthinkable malpractice that Mitch McConnell didn't put through the two thousand dollars checks when he could have before the Georgia Senate election. Terrible malpractice. That was old school GOP loser thinking. And now what people keep asking me, what do we do? I want to tell you that there's a better answer as a conservative than hide under

your desk. I want to tell you that brace for impact isn't the real sentiment we should feel. But I see all these things lining up, and when you add to that the ability to reopen, I mean, I think Iden will figure out a way to mess this up over the long term. I think we'll see the socialist impulse, the collectives in the ineptitude, the social justice, many of the climate change absurdity that will all factor into this, and people will see, oh my gosh, the people in

charge are actually kind of nuts. What they're doing doesn't make sense, but for right now they are. They are teeing all of this up. They are teeing all of this up. And the people that think that there's a plan or that there's some and I'm just talking about from the Congress. I'm talking about from the Republican officeholders, of whom Donald Trump will not be one in a few days. It's gonna be tough. It's gonna be tough. I speak the truth. I know what should I do?

Should I just tell people happy, happy fantasy stories about the geops or we're gonna have what a Convention of the States will save us? It will not, that's not at least I mean certainly not from the next twelve months and what the Democrats are planning, that's not an option. So I appreciate. I'm sure I'll get some links sent to me. What about a Convention of the States? Yeah, what about the last time we did that? We didn't do that, and it's not going to happen this time either.

But I just want everyone to see, if nothing else, they suppressed the truth about lockdowns. They wouldn't discuss the data during a pandemic when people were effectively being imprisoned and isolated in their own homes, separated from their fairly human beings. All the drug abuse, all the miscancers, greetings, all the overdoses, and just the depression, the actual clinical depression that is set in for so many people across

the country. That wasn't enough for them to say, this is above politics, Let's have an honest conversation about these lockdowns. Because this study out of Stanford, which is what Newsweek is citing here, says that you can't tell if there's the data, doesn't show any appreciable benefit of going into extreme lockdown measures over what I've been advocating for all along, which is you don't try to stay away from big crowds, wash your hands if you're six, stay away from people.

But they created this, this total straw man of the COVID denialist. Oh, if you if you don't think that every two weeks we should add some absurd addition to the lockdown strategy. Well, now we're going to close restaurants outdoor too. Now we're gonna add masks outdoor too, or they just kept doing this, ratcheting it up. If you pointed out that this was absurd, it wasn't going to help anybody, what was their response. Their response was, you're

a COVID denialist. You know what the data shows. The people who were saying that were wrong. And if you just think through this on your own, you recognize, of course that stuff didn't make a difference because the disease wasn't really spreading outdoors in any significant way. For example, because even with lockdowns, people are having to interact an

off that the virus is still spreading. And initially when we were doing this, it was all about shutting down the virus for a short period of time, shutting down the spread not entirely, of course, for a short period of time to allow us to get medical capacity. And then it transitioned to know, we can stop this, No we can't. If you pull down you know what would have been twenty percent of cases, let's say, or thirty

percent of cases over a two week period. But then you extend what you're doing over nine months twelve months, you end up at rough basically the same number. That's the point. It doesn't really change the eventual outcome here, which is what we're seeing all around the country. But they are just beginning to talk about it now because here's what I think will happen. They're going to hold

out the reopen as well. They're going to leverage reopen as a means of silencing political descent from people like me who are going to point to all the pork and all the special interest stuff and all the social justice warrior nonsense that's going to be contained in the in the save US package that Biden is putting out there. You're in the Freedom Life. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. But they need about we need about four hundred billion in funding from Congress to make all of it.

I just said happen. It's a great deal. But I'm convinced we're ready to get this done. The very health of our nation is at stake. Our rescue plan also includes a media relief to Americans hardest hit and most in need. We will finish the job of getting a total of two thousand dollars in cash relief to people who needed the most. The six hundred dollars already appropriated simply not enough if you just have to choose between

paying rent and putting food on the table. Even for those who kept their jobs, these checks are really important. See if you're an American worker making forty thousand dollars a year with less than four hundred dollars in savings, maybe you've lost hours, or maybe you're doing fewer shifts driving a truck or caring for the kids or the elderly. You're out there putting your life on the line to work during this pandemic and worried every week that you

get sick, lose your job, or worse. Two thousand dollars is going to go a long way to ease that pain. Four hundred billion dollars to combat the pandemic, with money to accelerate the vaccine deployment. Three hundred and fifty billion dollars for state and local governments that have budget shortfalls. That's right, the blue cities that excessively shut down out of COVID panic, and also because it was bad for the economy and bad for Trump. That was, there were

political calculations made here, No question. Three hundred and fifty billion dollars going to them. That covers a lot of budget shortfalls. And what this means is that the taxpay are you those of you who live in redters states or places that didn't really lock down, you are now

subsidizing the lockdown cities. That's what's happening. So, as I've been telling you along, if you think, oh, it's not that bad in my area, so this is more of a problem for the big cities or something, Nope, if you live in North Dakota, your federal income taxes now are going to pay for firefighters and teachers, unions and you name it. You know, sanitation workers in Los Angeles, Boston,

New York, Washington, d C. That's what this is. And Pelosi's gambit as grotesque and and really just nasty as the whole thing was to hold up all this aid, I tell you the truth, and that means I'm telling you that worked worked the same way that you know that that Democrats complained so much about the gamble that the Republicans took by not putting forward, putting through I should say Merrick Garland for a vote in the Senate, and then Trump won in twenty sixteen, Nancy Pelosi held up,

held up aid. The media did her bidding. It was terrible. People suffered. But now guess what Democrats get to be get to be the great distributor of goodies to the American people. This is gonna be tough. This is gonna be tough. I don't mean that part is tough. I mean how we actually slow down the other aspects of the Democrat agenda without looking like we're saying no, don't give the American people aid an assistance. This is how

they're doing it. They tie these things together and increasingly in what you'll see and the media will play a huge role in this is taking the Biden agenda, the whole legislative agenda, and making it seem like it's running in parallel. It's running in parallel with the reopen. So if you oppose the Biden agenda, aren't you really just opposing the reopen Because come on, they're getting money out there,

they're getting going. We are heading into the toughest, the toughest time for American political opposition to the the Democrat left in a decade. That's what's happening right now. Thanks for listening. To remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. The gas lighting over BLM is going to get worse and worse right now. They're going to completely change the history of that movement. And I remember it well because BLM was used.

As I remember, there's some complexities here. There's actual BLM protests, there's Antifa taking it upon themselves to act on behalf of BLM, which they were doing constantly, and then there's just the looting and riots that would occur after a BLM protest but in the name of BLM. So there's there's these different components. But overall, if referring to the movement of Black Lives Matter, it resulted in a lot of destruction in American cities. It resulted in dozens of deaths.

And if you look at the overall homicide rates in major American cities, they've as a percentage, gone up dramatically. They will just be prepared for this. The Democrats will tell you, oh, homicide is still at a ten year low in the country, or whatever it may be. Overall, that is true. The trajectory has been going down for a long time, which is fascinating. Isn't it. Because we're always told that if only we got rid of more, if only we harass lawful gun owners more, the crime

rate wouldn't be so terrible. But meanwhile, there are more and more guns and people's hands. Of the last twenty years, you've got over three hundred million people who say, buck, it's five hundred million, but hundreds of millions of legal firearms in Americans hands. And yet the crime rate had been steadily going down for the last it's really long in the last twenty years. Crime overall has been going down for decades, but this year there is a jump up.

This year you're seeing cities like New York and Boston and Chicago and Los Angeles. Don't I don't know all the numbers offhand, but you know you're talking about fifty to one hundred percent increases in shootings in some of these cities, really bad year to year increase. And that's a result of the change in police tactics from b LM and I'm sorry, change the police tactics from BLM's

demands that there'll be less aggressive policing. And that's and also people not wanting to lose their jobs, their livelihoods, their pensions because they become a target of a BLM protester, or it becomes one of these cases. You saw this in Philadelphia. I mean, there was a guy who over the summer ran at a police officer with a knife drawn, screaming, clearly deranged, and you know, yes, the guy's mentally disturbed.

It's a tragic situation. But the cop does not have an obligation to get stabbed in the face before he's and uses his weapon. This is all on video. We all thought they made an issue of that case. Well, if you're a police officer and you see that, you say to yourself, well, what exactly am I supposed to do? And now, when you're driving on your patrol car, you don't you see something going on down that proverbial dark alley, right, you see something happening, you know, you just keep going

unless you get a call that you can't ignore. You're you're just gonna focus on other things. Well, that makes everybody in the community less safe, That makes everybody more subject to random and wanton violence. But there's a big, big effort underway right now to make sure that the right is going to be treated like the exclusive the exclusive perpetrator of political violence. That's it's a narrative they're

trying to build right now, that's what they're doing. You have the age for DC Carl Racine saying this about BLM protests. Now, by the way, we shouldn't be comparing BLM protests with Capitol riots, that's true, or with the Capitol riot. I should say we should not compare those things. We should compare the hundreds of BLM riots with the Capitol riots or riot sea isn't that important plural versus versus singular. But we should compare what happened in Kenosha,

We should compare what happened in Minneapolis. We should compare those incidents with Capitol Hill. And then I think that's that's a much more apples to apples comparison. But anyway, here's what the District of Columbia AG has to say about a Place six in regards to Black Lives Matter and the comparison to an attempt of insurrection at the Capitol. I think it speaks for itself when people like Honor will Madis made clear that what this was was an

attempted insurrection into our democratic ways. We know quite easily that the Black Lives Matter protest was unbelievably different. And by the way, do not let anyone, including Ken Cucinelli or other elected officials, tell you that Democratic elected people did not condemn the violence that occurred during the summer protests. They always did, I always did. I get to tell you, though, trying to overturn an election with violence, including violence on

police officers, is something very, very different. They should be held to account or their lives. Just not true that they all condemned the violence of b ELEMENT. It's just not true. We would hear not only did they not condemn the violence, but they also created this special epidemiological loophole for BLM to continue to do the protest that it was doing, for BLM to engage in this behavior

while we are supposed to all be avoiding crowds and gatherings. Oh, it's it's about saving black lives, though they told us that was the line. Therefore, it's it's actually protecting life to have massive crowds gathered. Now, you've heard me say many times the virus doesn't really spread outdoors according to the actual science. But I also don't think if you're gathered in a tightly packed crowd of a thousand people screaming for hours on end. I mean it might the

virus might spread a little bit there. I think that's fair to say walking down the street alone, no, but if you are all together in a very dense crowd, that may change. Anyway. They created a special exception for that. But the Democrats mobilize with this. The Democrats mobilized their base in the election year. As I said, they were all along. This was effective for them. The people who are telling you that everything was fine, that Trump had this under control, that there was a plan, that they

were wrong. They were wrong about the preparations for the election beforehand. With regard to challenging all these the way the way they were switching, the deadlines and mail and ballot procedures and all this. The Trump campaign did did not get ahead of that issue. And I've spoken to people who are on the campaign about this. The Trump campaign didn't get ahead of that. The messaging around BLM and Antifa was not strong enough. The President kept tweeting

out law and order. It was insufficient obviously. I mean, you have the president the United States, you're supposed to be law and order. A guy and you had riots and mayhem from Democrats for basically the whole summer. This was this was not a good look. As they say, this did not work out well. But now you're going to see the So look, I want us to understand what happened so we can do better going forward. I

think that's necessary. I think that's helpful for us. Well, we can also look at what they're what they're going to do now and understand their plan and rewriting the history of black lives matter and making i mean the Capitol Hill riot I'm seeing today. They're saying that there were guys who wanted to break in there and they they were going to take members of Congress hostage or something.

And at least in one case, they're referring to somebody who ran in there with like a like a beaver pelt on his head and all painted up, who's also told authority since he's been a custody that he thinks he's a member of an alien race. I'm being serious. I mean, this is a guy who's who's clearly has has like mental illness problems, serious ones. But but you and I, because we voted for Trump, were responsible for for this guy why I had nothing to do with

this person. I don't support him. I think that I think person needs needs honest and serious like theatric assistance. And then there's also this, so there's that you're being told, oh there, that this was this was the equivalent of an armed insurrection to overthrow the United States government. That's the way the media is reporting on this when we've all seen that, Yes, there's somebody. They killed the police officer, they were in a fight that they shouldn't have been in.

They caused a fight, and they attack cops and you shouldn't do this, and this is wrong. I don't think they intended to kill that officer with the with the fire I mean with the fire extinguisher, but they did, and they have to be held fully accountable. But there are also gradations here, there are levels that we have to take an account. What's the difference between a riot and the kind of insurrection that the media is talking

about right now for obvious political purposes. I mean, you could have had people and God forbid, and everyone should be peaceful. And I don't think I don't think any any protests right now before the inauguration. It doesn't I don't think it serves anyone's purpose for the movement. I really don't. I don't think it's a good idea. I mean, peaceful protests fine, but I just would prefer personally that everything just right now, we calm down the Biden administrations

coming into power. Let's let that, Let's let the peaceful transfer happen, and then we can start having bigger demonstrations, peaceful, law abiding ones about what's going on. And let's also be honest. The Democrats won't care and the media won't cover it, and we don't have Trump anymore at the head of the movement. So you know, this is I don't know. I hope everyone appreciates. This show is like

reality hour. I'm seeing some of what other conservatives are putting out there right now, and they're just I don't really know a lot of people, a lot of people got very far just just grabbing onto the Trumpster. Oh as long as I talk about how awesome Trump is, everybody will like me and listen to me or watch me or whatever. Okay, Well that doesn't work anymore. That's not going to happen now. I think Trump is going to continue to have a voice once he leaves office

and will play a role in movement. How big a role, I don't know, But we gotta tend to what's going on, what's going on right now. Um oh, I was talking about the layers of analysis here. We'd have to apply to the Capitol Hill what they're calling the insurrection. Insurrection in other countries would involve sending people with automatic weapons to overtake with force and to hold and to say we're in charge now, and we're the government now. That's

that's really what an insurrection is. So that's that's completely To think that what happened at Capitol Hill rises to that level, which is how they're treating it, that's that's just not honest analysis of the situation. There was no reality, There was no future in which they were going to

hold the capitol and hold the government. A lot of the people in there were just running around like idiots, taking selfies, and you know, they thought that this was some kind of a don't I don't even know, honestly, what they were thinking is a little bit beyond me. Not the people outside who are holding up placards and protesting and saying that they're concerned and they feel the election was stolen, and then I totally get where they're

coming from. But running around inside the capitol, it doesn't make sense to me. And it's a lot worse than doesn't make sense to me. But you know what I'm saying, I can't even I can't even put my mind in a place where I could see how that decision would be made. But then there's also the first person that we've seen here who is in agent provocateurs, somebody who is clearly a BLM left wing activist who was encouraging people inside the Capitol to engage in this kind of behavior.

He's basically saying, Yeah, this is great, let's go Ryant. You know he's been on CNN before too. There's federal charges now filed against the guy, so he was. There were leftists, There were leftists throwing gasoline on the fire. There were a lot of a lot of my people,

though a lot of Trump supporters, that's also true. But we have at least one leftist now that the Department of Justice has said was in their exacerbating things and making things worse, and they're they're bringing serious, serious charges against him. You're in the freedom mud. This is the Buck Sexton Show. Podcast. My office was tasked with the responsibility of launching a civil investigation into the New York

City Police Department's response to these protests. But we found was an egregious abuse of police power, rampant excessive use of force, and leadership unable and unwilling to stop it. There you have the Attorney General for New York, Leticia James, who has said that she's going to use her She's been open about her use her prosecutorial powers to go after Trump, and not just while he's in office, getting ready for that. She's calling out the NYPD's that's the problem.

You see, this is very deeply ingrained and the Democrat left mindset that the issue with with violence in cities, and the and the and the problem with these protests that turned into riots is the cops. The real problems the cops. This is going to be commonplace. You're gonna

hear this all the way from the very top. They'll always say this, they'll do this, this this throat clearing about you know, or we respect her, you know, Joe Biden will say, oh, we respect her law enforcement officers, comma. But there's so much racism with cops and cops are so racist and they're bad, and we need to stop them from being such racists. Say, well, if cops are so bad and so racist, how are you Why why

would you respect them, Joe Biden? Why would you think that they deserve the benefit of the doubt for doing what's a very difficult and even dangerous job. But this is this is just that's just to cover themselves so that some people go, well, I guess the Democrats don't really, they're not really willing to. And look when I say they hate the cops, Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden, Chuck Schumer, they're all going to call them. First of all, they've

all got security details start with that. They've they've all got personal police. But even beyond that, yeah, of course they'd call the cops the moment that somebody, you know, somebody's baseball fell and Nancy's petunia is in her backyard of her mansion in San Francisco. They don't hate copses, and they don't want to use the cops, but they will pretend, they will play kate that sentiment that the

police are the real problem. And this is why you've got Latsia James, the Attorney General for New York State, saying, oh, yeah, the issue here is that the NYPD they were really out of line. They were really doing bad stuff. That's interesting because I remember when I was talking to people

who work in my building. I live in a tall apartment building in New York City, and there's a staff that works in the building, and there was some at the front desk, and they were worried about what would happen if somebody came in and SMA, the smashed up the lobby. It's all glass, smashed up the lobby and started smashing you know, what do they do? This was on the Purge night when they were smashing windows across

the street. So this isn't some some irrational fear to have when there's mobs of people running through the streets freely and breaking stores and breaking store windows and stealing stuff, including on Fifth Avenue in one of the most visible and high end shopping districts in the whole world. It's understandable why you'd be concerned. Who's gonna come and help me if this mob decides that they want to start going after private homes. Who's gonna Who's gonna help me?

If the mob decides that they don't like the look on my face and they're gonna this is Oh, but the cops were the problem that night, right, The cops were the problem for the riots that kept happening and happening and happening. Did Democrats ever call for it to stop?

Do you remember that? Do you remember a single prominent Democrat coming forward and saying, you're really the BLM movement's really about police for form and making this a better country, So we have to absolutely stop all acts of destruction and criminal behavior. Do you remember that speech? Well, I know you don't because it didn't happen. There was no Democrat who was making that point. Thanks for listening to

The bus Essence Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, at the iHeart Radio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Do you think that Joe Biden should pardon Trump as Ford did Nixon. I don't know he should, at least he should consider it. Now. I don't know whether Donald Trump, he's not a genius, but he might figure out that if he accepts a pardon, that's an admission of guilt.

At the United States Supreme Court has said, so, I don't know that he would accept a pardon, but as part of healing the country and getting us to a place where we can focus on things that are going to matter over the next four years. I think Joe Biden's going to have to least think about that, Joe

Biden pardoning Trump for what exactly. Trump wouldn't accept it, because the only thing that they leave at this point, and after all the fake charges and we'll talk in a second about the declassifying of documents that that's expected to happen today or imminently, the fake charges out there that they used over the years, the Russia collusion and treason and all this stuff. Now they're going to get

them on incitement to violence. Gonna be pretty tough. It's gonna be pretty tough to convince a fair minded jury. I mean, all you need is one person who's basically a Republican because it would become very political. Any jury pool would be inherently tainted, right, all you need those one Republican on a jury. You just need one, do you hear? He said, go be peaceful at the Capitol

and have your voices heard. And a bunch of people decided to destroy and destroy things and attack cops that's not on him, right, So saying that he won the election by a landslide might be improper and you know, not accurate, not true. But we're talking about incite into insurrection. We're not talking about some bessing about an election that he should have been He should have been more clear on exactly where where we had proof and what proof we had. So I don't think that you'd be able

to get a conviction. So that means that that Donald Trump would not accept. Why would you accept a pardon for a conviction, I'm sorry, a pardon for a crime that you had not committed. I don't think that will happen. It's fascinating that James Comey is still elevated by the media. I mean, it's not surprising, but you have to dig into this for a second. Here's a guy who acted like a scorned high school teenager when he was fired by Trump and then released documents of his own his

own memos to the New York Times. But he outmaneuvered Trump on getting a special counsel done. This is the truth I know, and now we get Now we get to finally say about the four D chests and all that stuff. What's true, what's not? Where was Trump amazing? Trump was amazing on saying things that other people were unwilling to say that were true. Trump was amazing on fighting the media and driving them completely insane and making

them make utter buffoons of themselves. Right, there were so much and also just understanding this whole piece of America, right, seventy five million Trump voters the last time around, but understanding what they're frustrated about, why they're not getting a fair deal, and what could be done, what could be done by the government to make things better. So I understand all the most the biggest assets that Trump brings to bear. But on the whole, oh he's four dh

This is what I was saying. We weren't allowed to from his own team try to make it better. We weren't allowed to do it. People didn't want to hear it. You had to just be out there saying everything was amazing. You know, had to be you know, it's like we were all Trump's therapist. Oh you're doing great, everything's great, You're doing a fantastic job. You know, go easier on yourself because everything's great. But on the Special Council and how that went down, obviously, James Comey was able to

do real harm to the administration. It was it was deeply harmful to have the Special Council investigating them. It was more challenging. I think a lot of people realize because I spoke to individuals who had to get lawyers, and they were really worried about getting the Papadopolis treatment, where they're just coming after you. They have member the federal government aid. Federal government prosecutors in this case had

endless resources, endless resources to come after whoever they wanted to. Basically, they spend forty million dollars. I mean, how many people have one hundred thousand dollars of their own amount of legal defense. Not very many. So they've got forty million dollars at their disposed. Those lawyers get paid, Those prosecutors, the Special Counsel get paid. Whether they win or lose

doesn't matter really to them. And your life is on the line essentially, certainly your reputation and your freedom are as well as your finances, your life savings. And the truth is they were they were using the process as a weapon in an effective way. They were using the process as a weapon in a way that we have to be aware of because it largely worked. It was

mostly mostly effective. Now they didn't get what they wanted in the end, which was the impeachment and removal of Trump from office using the Special Counsel Report as a roadmap. But as I've told you, I think that's because Attorney General bar saw what they were trying to do and headed them off at the pass, which is also why I refused to join the AG. Bar was a sellout and a deep state fake and all the stuff that people were saying about that, I don't think that was fair.

People are entitled their opinion. Maybe I'm wrong. I don't think that was fair. I don't think that was fair to somebody that did a lot for the administration and understands the threat from the left, would and would speak openly about what the left is doing to this country. Now we're going to get even more information. But there's a there's a frustration, a clear frustration that I have

around this because Trump is going to declassify. I spoke to the President about declassifying and told him that he should in twenty eighteen, I think it was two years and change ago. I was in the Oval Office with the President. It was before I was doing an interview with him and I was like, sir, you're going to declassify, right, No, Nope, didn't declassify. And I think that there's going to be there. They're going to release documents now. That's that's at least

what the reporting is saying. Okay, so what are we going to do with it? Now? What You're going to declassify a whole bunch of stuff about Russia collusion. So we're gonna find out that Hillary Clinton was a fraud in this whole thing, and she knew what was going on, that she used the Russia collusion scam to try to offset her very real email scam which was not going away the email crisis for her for the election, and

that this was all manufactured by the DNC. And Christopher Steele has ties to Fiona Hill and that's coming out, and there's all these different moving pieces. I'm glad that we'll get some truth and transparency on this. And I know there is still a Durham probe, there is still a special counsel that could do something, But I think it's unrealistic to believe that this is somehow going to be so much better. This is going to be so much better now. You know, we are going into a

Biden administration. They're going to be in charge of the government, and we're going to know more of the truth of Russia collusion, and then what are we going to do? What are we going to do about it? You know? This is this is where we are. I've I wanted this to get out two years ago. I said to release information now, and nope, oh no, you know, trust trust in the four dhs. That's what we were told. Well, yeah, that's not not really the plan that it needed to be.

I've also been very very clear with you about how the the purge of Trump from Twitter was just the beginning of a longer term effort. You have Jack Dorsey. This is from a Twitter a Twitter insider recording Jack Dorsey talking about the political censorship that we should all be expecting going forward. So, as I've said, they want us all to concede on this stuff. Oh, Trump's a

clear and present danger. We need the right to make political determinations about whether there's someone it's just too dangerous to public discourse to kick them off of social media platforms. But we've been led to believe that that stops when Biden comes into office and that everything will calm down. No, no, why would they do that. They like this, This is enormously helpful to them. Here is Jack Dorsey himself telling everybody,

this is a bigger plan, folks play fifteen. You know, we are focused on one account right now, but this is going to be much bigger than just want to count, and it's going to go on for much longer than just this day, this week, for the next few weeks, to go on beyond the inauguration. We have to expect

that we haven't being ready for that. So the focus is certainly on this account and how it ties into real Roald violence, but also we need to think much longer term around how do these dynamics play out over time. I don't believe this is going away anytime soon, and the moves that we're making today around Quanon, for instance, to one such an example of a much broader approach that we should be looking at and in current Keepron. So the team has a lot of work and a

lot of focus on this particular issue. We also need to get in the space and the support to focus on the much bigger picture because it is not going away. I'm there. You know, the the US is extremely divided. Our platform is showing that every single day, and our role is to protect the integrity of that conversation and do what we can to make sure that no one is being harmed based on that, And that is the focus, and that is the color we want to provide, protect

the integrity of the conversation. Maybe we could take that a little more seriously from the CEO of one of the biggest social media platforms on the planet. Maybe we could listen to them without wanting to just either gaffall in laughter or cry at the absurdity of this. If they hadn't allowed the President of the United States to be called a traitor and a Russian asset for four years, I mean they've done it all four years, and to lie and lie endlessly and pedal false information using platforms

like Twitter about Russia collusion. Maybe then we could listen to this and not feel like it was such an obvious and transparent fraud. But this is this is the future, and I do believe it's a wake up call to a lot of people, a lot of conservatives out there, that we need Some of us have been calling for this for a long time, and we need to start setting up more infrastructure. We need an entire information ecosystem that is a business. It has to be a business.

It can't be just charities. It can't be sending more checks the Heritage Foundation. It has to be a functioning, standalone ecosystem of with profit and loss and you know, growth strategy. We got to have the media component of it. You have to have sales and advertising, the actual digital infrastructure and and this this all needs to happen because otherwise you're going to be at weirdo Jack Dorsey's Mercy. That's where this is all heading. You're in the Freedom

und This is the Buck Sex and Show podcast. I wonder if you have thought through kind of how Republicans begin what someone on my team earlier today called deep bathification of the Republican Party. And I wonder if Liz Cheney, you know, her statement being the thing that Republicans used, I mean, the Democrats us sorry to explain why they need to impeak Donald Trump. Is there a little wing of the Republican Party that you think can do this sort of debathification of the party and can it work?

At this point? It's interesting debathification refers to removing bath party officials from the government to military infrastructure in Iraq post US invasion two thousand and three. MSNBC's Joy Reid seems to think that de bathification worked out well. Women did not. It led to continued, long standing insurgency a tremendous amount of violence, but she wants de bathification of the GOP. This also makes me think to somebody else who knows quite a bit about what happened in Iraq.

My friend Brandon Webb joins us right now. He is a former Navy seal and best selling author. You can also check out his latest and his team's latest at softrep dot com. Brandon, good to see you. Good to see you, Buck. So we have some really overheated political rhetoric going on right now. Tell me about about what your thought are with with all these many, many thousands of National Guard troops. Who are I think they're they're carrying like six full mags and I mean they they

they're armed up for looks like counterinsurgency operations. What's going on? Yeah, I mean I've never, to be honest, I've never felt so close to the brink of potential civil war in America. I would never thought I would even utter those words. The thing that's you know, as a former seal and a combat veteran that I find, um, I find it a little funny that you know, Pelosi and Gang feel

comfortable calling essentially what are reservists. So these are kids that are in school, um, you know, part time army, and they're being summoned to the Capitol. Probably most of them never had any combat experience or combat service. These like young kids, and are they really going to be pitted against armed, angry Americans in the Capitol. I just like, I can't see a nineteen year old kid really drawing down with an M for assault rifle on a fellow American.

So I just see that. You know that what the Democrats are doing is just throwing gas on the fire and just making things worse, Like let's let's just let the process run its course. Um, but you know, pushing that all these National Guard and obviously you know, now the you know, Biden has the most of the press behind him, um, at least the liberal media, and they're just pushing this in the headlines to kind of thinking that this is going to kind of quell the situation.

And it's just not the case, like these these are like young kids. Yeah, well and and they're they're showing all these photos of them sleeping on the marble floors of the United States Capital and and they're they're you

everyn Remember, DC already has a tremendous security presence. I mean you've got all the different that the presence of all the different federal law enforcement agencies, you know, Secret Service and and people that work uh, you know, a at the FBI, And I mean they've all got fully automatic weapons and all kinds of tactical gear and you know, and then you add to this metro police and everything else we need. What is it nine thousand or something.

National Guard has been deployed in DC right now. It feels like what are they What are they really prepared for? Because they're not They're they're not looking like they're prepared for crowd control brand And that that's the part of this that I think is some people so uneasy. Summoning the National Guard to DC is like bringing a knife

to a gunfight. Like if you really want to be prepared, like sending the Ranger battalion, you know, like that's like a serious, um you know, threat response, but it's just again, it's like I feel like, really we're you know, we're at the point where, you know, the things that the Democrats are doing just to kind of egg egg people on.

I just don't I don't understand like why they're escalating this to to a certain level when when it should be about de escalization and getting back to you know, the what the founding fathers wanted us to do is like a government elected by the people or the people. Um, I just it's a it's an interesting time. And like I said, I have a lot of friends who are nervous. Um rightfully, so I think that a lot of Americans are fed up. They're fed up with the electoral process.

You know, we're we're essentially in the dark ages like we might as well just you know, be an African republic, right, Like we're counting ballots by hand. This is this is like twenty twenty one. We should be voting on cell phones. Um, you know, it's just and again, we have this elect electoral process that delivers us really two poor choices every

four years. So so Brandon, before we before we let you go, just tell everybody what you're what you're working on right now, because we haven't heard from you in a while. I know you got some things in the pipeline. Yeah, so you know I'm still running software dot com. We started a Mastermind group for professionals and that I'm I'm actually leading myself, called the Red Circle Mastermind. I'm excited

about that. It's essentially a place where where people we can create accountability together and drive people towards towards their goals. And I think twenty twenty one is going to be a challenging year, but there's a lot of opportunities on the horizon. And if anyone wants to check that out, that that's just my last name, web dot Team, um, web dot team dot com, and that'll throw you right into the Mastermind group. But that that's kind of what I'm up to you right now. Well real quick, what's

a Mastermind group? Essentially? You could think of it as a group of professionals like you are, who you hang out with. So I'm building this group of professionals that want to hold themselves accountable, set purpose and goals in their life, and have a system and an environment that creates accountability for that. So all right, well, Brandon, thanks for your service and your expertise. My friend. Always good to talk to you. Thanks for listening to The Bus

Sesson Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's not going to stop with Trump. You know that there are other people they want to make an example of. I'm talking about elected officials. They want to humiliate them, they want to get rid of them. If you have been effective at all in opposition to the Democrat agenda, you're now a target for Democrats to expel you, to override

the will of those voters. And it starts with things like calls for censorship. You remember a curious jilla brand senator from New York, a severe mediocrity, and that's probably too kind. She was one who looks she'll say whatever she has to say, whatever she has to say it. But I guess that's true of a lot of politicians. But she wants a censure motion for Ted Cruise and Josh Holly play fourteen. President Trump was not the only

person egging on supporters or pushing the election lie. He had two lieutenants in the Senate leading the charge on the election fraud. Line, and that was Ted Cruise and Josh Holly. Do you think they should face consequences? I do, and I think we should consider a censure motion for both of them again to continue the lie that the Electoral College votes shouldn't have been counted, that some extra judicious review was necessary after it's been through the courts,

certified by States Business, the States Rights issue. I think it was extremely irresponsible, and I think the appropriate response would be a centure motion. Cent your motion. You think they're gonna leave it there? No, of course not have there been any centure motions for Democrat officials who pushed the Russia collusion hoax. You'll notice there's a very important difference you see here in the timelines. The left lied about Trump not winning the twenty sixteen election for first

entire presidency. They've never been willing to admit that that was a lie. That they don't admit that that was all a fraud, and they've they faced no consequences for

it whatsoever through any process or anything else. Right, They've just maybe some people who pay attention to the public realize that these people are liars and they're disgraceful, But there's no actions taken against them, and in any case, they won the twenty sixteen election, I mean twenty twenty election against Trump, so they feel like this was a win for them. They feel like this was a good

a good thing. Well, all right, now we see that they want to take this and they want us to forget about the fact that Republicans had questions about an election and Trump supporters and voters and the GOP had questions about an election that lasted essentially until the votes were counted in the Congress, and of course there was the riot. The riot was awful. But since then, I mean, the GOP said, all right, I mean, it's this is done. Trump has said it. This is Joe Biden's going to

be the president. Democrats, yes, I understand, they accepted through the process that Trump was going to be the president. But then they created an end run on that process with the FBI investigation, a crossfire hurricane, and the special counsel and the entire media apparatus lying about the president as a traitor. And they actually took this to the courts. I mean they took this too. They took this all

the way. They went to the FISA court and then they went all the way with the special counsel, no accountability for that whatsoever, and they that was the whole thing was a lie. Trump and the Trump campaign had nothing to do with Russia. Russia didn't change the election outcome, although sixty to seventy percent of Democrats thought Russia actually changed the numbers that the voting machines were counting, just to get just to give you a sense of of

how much there was there. So it's it's frustrating as all hacked to see right now that they're they're claiming that this is some unprecedented, unprecedented threat to our our election integrity by challenging or by questioning the outcome of the election through the courts, not talking about the riot.

I'm talking about through the courts. When what the Democrats did was they realized they couldn't win this thing through the actual process, so they tried to create some separate, you know, torpedo the Trump presidency process by running with this Russia collusion lie and using the deep state and the secretiveness of the fives of courts to get all this stuff up and running, and then to filter through the media, to use the media as a megaphone to

give credibility to the lie. That's what they did. Now you have really extreme stuff being said here by a whole lot of people on the left, and we had Kirsten Gillibrand saying that we should have a vote of censure. But Iona Pressley, member of the so called squad, Congresswoman Iona Pressley, she wants people who were supporting Trump or who were questioning the election, she wants them gone play four.

So the first step is impeach and remove, which is also about ensuring that he cannot be so that he is barred from running from public office again. The second is to expel, to expel those members who have aided and embedded and been complicit and the cruelty, the corruption, and the criminality of this administration, who perpetuated the big lie complicit in the administration. They must be must be expelled, expelled,

you see, for their perpetuation. The big lie Democrats lied about the President's Russia collusion ties for four years and they still do. Okay, So I really don't want to be lectured by them about that. The only thing that they are the only thing that needs condemnation here in a clear and full throated sense, that is of real concern is the Capitol Hill riot, the stuff about the election and people that Ted Cruz and others who wanted

the presentation of evidence. If a huge part of the country, and it's not such a crazy thing to think that a lot of the country would have a problem with this. We went to bed thinking Donald Trump won the election. The next morning we wake up and it's, oh, actually, because of changes in voting procedure, Joe Biden won. That's

basically what happened. I think it's understandable that a lot of people think, oh, that doesn't feel right, and it's the it's the end consequence of all the changes and all the Democrat games they play, you know, with all the early voting and earlier and earlier and mail in and all these things that they do. You know, why not just have an election that lasts for a year. The whole year. You can vote any time in the

whole year. We'll know. Because they're supposed to be a defined point in time when people come, when the American people come to a decision. That's the way it's supposed to happen. With some you know, some special exceptions for people overseas in the military, or people that have some understandable and clear need to vote to vote absentee. You know I voted absentee in two thousand and eight. I was in Iraq, so it was going to be really hard for me to get to a polling center because

I was in Baghdad. You know that it wasn't going to be an easy thing to do. So and we get to the judgment involved of some of these individuals, the judgment that some of these individuals have. H Iona Pressley, who was the one who said, but they must expel those in the GOP who are complicit in the criminality of the administration. He or she is saying that, Well, I'll just let her say at play five. These foss I mean, they're just it's criminal behavior. Don I don't

know what else to call it. They have been complicit from the very beginning, and their willful criminality to carry the water for Donald Trump and these science denials which allowed this pandemic to rage out of control, and then by refusing to wear masks. This is criminal behavior. That's chemical warfare, so far as I'm concerned, and again, this

is exactly why we should be moving. And I was very proud to be an original postponsor Representative Bush's resolution calling for the expulsion of these members they are unfit to serve. You know, don When they took us to the quote unquote safe room and I walked in and saw that there was this contingent of anti maskers in the room gathered, I immediately exited. So imagine in that

moment the choice that I was making. And we were told as we left that space, she'll be on your own in an evacuation, and I said, I'll take my chances. Let's understand that she thinks that this is rational or reasonable what she's saying most places all across the country. And now you can go into a restaurant, sit down just like you'd be indoors here at the Capitol Building and people don't have masks on. Has Aana Pressley flown on a plane or is she driving from Connecticut to

DC every time she goes back to your disagree? Is she flown on a plane. I'd be willing to bet she's flown on a plane. Does she realize that when she's on that plane that there are lots of people who are unmasked for long periods of time as they drank and eat and whatever, but it was an imminent threat to life and limb to be in a room with people who are who are temporarily unmasked or not, weren't wearing masks, refused to wear masks inside the capitol,

she says, it's a form of chemical warfare. That's right, You breathing is chemical warfare. Now, this is this is who we're supposed to listen to about what is fair minded in politics, and a woman who is part of the legislative process, it's this is what we're going to be dealing with from democrats. Did anyone in the room even have COVID? Do they know? Now? They have no idea? So statistically speaking, the overwhelming likelihood is that no one in that room had COVID and that nobody was exposed,

particularly in any kind of close way. So why, oh no, Because COVID is just a COVID is really, first and foremost for politicians, a bat with which you bludgeon the opposition idea, whatever it may be, find a way to make it about how their COVID deniers or they don't. That's the whole point of It's it's not actually a virus that has spread all over the world that we should all be thinking about realistic and honest solutions to

deal with in a reasonable fashion. It's how can I use this as a political weapon against the other side. That seems to be the primary, the primary purpose that I see from at least the Democrats about what they're trying to do, what they're trying to accomplish when they talk about COVID. Although, as I said, I believe the Biden administration coming in now is going to you either get on board or you don't want COVID to stop. That's going to be the demagoguery that you see. Just

just wait for it. You're in the Freedom Hud. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. You know what we definitely shouldn't do at this point in time. Take a lot of advice about what the GOP should do and what the next steps are from people who hate the GOP and who make money trying to destroy it. Do not take advice from your enemies. It's a very straightforward,

maxim It's a very important way to approach life. Do not take advice from people that want to see you lose, and there are so many of them out there right now. Here's Steve Schmidt. Steve Schmidt runs Lincoln Project. Yeah, he goes on TV and he uses the stars to use the big words occasionally, so he sounds like not the dumbest person on TV, but I think he might be play nine. We have a fascistic enterprise alive and well

in America. We have an autocratic movement that's supported by forty two And before we talk about reconciliation, we must talk about accountability, and we must talk about justice, and we must talk about the punishment for the violence done to the government of the United States. There are only two ways to win a fight. You can bring your opponent to submission, or your opponent can bring you to exhaustion.

When you think about losing a fight through exhaustion, you think think about the United States in Iraq or Afghanistan or in Vietnam. When you think about submission, you think about what happened to the South in the Civil War. You think about Germany and Japan. And so our offer on the table for this edition as is a fight where we will bring you to submission. This must be crushed, This must be annihilated. This illiberalism, this undemocratic moment must

be met. Head on. I mean, this guy raises money to destroy Republicans and help Democrats. But now he's going to tell the Republican Party how it needs to reform. That seems like a bad That seems like a bad pathway to go down. He's not the only one, dude, do we know is Joe Scarborough? Is he? Is he a Republican or you know, I'm sure he thinks that he should be president, but is he a Republican or

what what? I don't know what He probably probably an independent. Now, when you're a turncote Republican in the media and you want to maintain whatever lucrative perch you have, what you do as you say you're an independent. That guy he used to work for Bush dowd Over at ABC News, who's he's one of the worst political analysts on just says dumb things all the time and as a jerk. On top of that, he's he's an independent. I think Scarborough, I don't know what he says he is, but he

could very easily be in that mold here he is. Remember, this is somebody who used to have a show about how much of a Republican he was on TV and now He's like, the GOP needs to just keep losing and losing and losing and losing. Play eight. Yes, people have to tell the truth. We have to get justice. But also Trump's Republican Party has to lose in two years, has to lose in four years, has to keep losing until those with autocratic tendencies are driven from American politics

for good. Gotta get him out of politics, the autocratic tendencies in the Republican Party. That's what he's saying. Does Joe Scarborough ever talk about the autocratic tendencies and the Democrat Party or no? Where do you think there's a greater risk of autocracy? Where do you think there's a

greater risk of authoritarianism? The party that now has the entirety of the media and the social media giants doing their bidding, that has corporate America in their back pocket, do you think that they're more of a risk to your freedoms or liberty? Were the party that right now was going through some very tough times because unfortunately we were in charge when COVID hit. I think if there was no COVID nineteen, if we hadn't gone through the pandemic,

Donald Trump would have won reelection pretty pretty handily. Unfortunately, that's not that's not the cards we were dealt. Now we have a Republican Party that's feelings as weak as it has. As I said, this is the worst position the Republican Party has been in since two thousand and nine, so we could say an over a decade at this point. This is the worst place it's been in in terms

of power. I'm not sure that this is the worst place it's been in in terms of long term prospects, because we have had there were some gains among key groups in the last election. That shows that with the right kind of conservative, populous message we can we can have gains. This was a very it was a fluke of a year in politics. In a lot of ways. It was very challenging. So I'm not one to sit here and despair. I'm just telling you we we got

to get ready for what's coming. Because the Democrats they only had, they only had four years of Trump, but they completely lost their minds and now their plan is to punish all, punish everybody that was a part of it in whatever way they can, and to really erase Trumpism from the the political map in its entirety. And you know, I was gonna even I was gonna play a SoundBite from from Cindy McCain and I didn't. Why And I look, I got nothing against Cindy McCain, And

why why is she a political voice that we hear from? Exactly? I don't. I don't get that, but I'll just leave it. Because the Romney McCain wing of the GOP, they really think that they're going to come back into power, and I just don't see that happening. And if it does happen, it just means that we keep losing elections and Democrats get their way. But but well we'll be pat on the head by the New York Times. So that's nice. You know, the GOP is no longer a bunch of ruffians.

That'll be our reward. Thanks for listening to the bus seton Show podcast. Remember to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, the iHeart Radio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. Only once during the nearly two decades long war in Afghanistan has an active duty combat member been pulled from the battlefront due to debts of two family members. In war. US Marine bo Wise is that man after his brothers won a Navy seal. The other an Army Green Beret sniper,

were killed in combat. Wise was removed from the war theater, earning the designation sole Survivor. He's got a book in book coming out, Three Wise Men, in which he tells this story. But we have Marine bow Wise with us now. Both thank you for for your service in your time. Hey, thank you for your service, and thanks for having me on buck. So tell me this what what? What do you want people to take a take away from your story?

And I suppose for us to really understand that you got to tell us how how did all this come about? You quite a quite a military family. Yeah, you know, there was a lot to say. Um uh when we first got started, and Tom Seleo, my co author, approached me and he really, you know, kind of told me his vision and what he wanted to do, and I told him the things that I had wanted to say, and everything just kind of syncd up as far as

preserving Jeremy and Ben's legacy. But um it became something much deeper, and um I learned to be honest myself, be human, and expose a few chinks in my own armor and hopefully an effort that we can we can help other veterans, you know, you know that are struggling coming off the battlefield as well. So you know, it all started for me. I found journal. Journalism to our journal excuse me, to be kind of a healthy coping mechanism because I just, quite frankly me personally, my personality type.

I can put ink to paper and let my heart out a little bit easier than I can speaking. So having such a patriotic and professional co author with Tom Salo to help, you know, help me tell that story was just detrimental. But Boat tell us some of that story. How did you decide to go into the Marine Corps? Your brother was a Marine sniper, Your other brother was a was a member of the United States Navy Seals. Tell us about this well, then was the first to enlist,

and he enlisted in two thousand, prior to September. He just it was something that he talked about since high school and you know, really ever since you know, we were kids. My mom, you know, had a legacy of you know, marine heritage, her uncle, her mother's brother being a raider in the Pacific Campaign and her great uncle being in u in Argonne Forest, if I'm not mistaken, and you know, so having that legacy and you know, it just kind of sparked the fuel and then just

wanted to serve. So he enlisted Army Infantry. And then eventually years later after his first deployment, when Green Beret Jeremy had talked about steel since high school and college, and then eventually when he was twenty seven to cut off age for BUDS. Being twenty eight, you know, it was you know, time to time to do it or you know, stop. So he quit medical school and went to BUDS. And after just listening to them, I just

got inspired. And I was in college and thought, you know, I really you know, I was just living vicariously through a lot of stories they were telling me, and I was like, I've got to make a path for my own and do something similar. And I eventually in two thousand and eight and listed in the Marine Corps and win infantry. And you you did get deployed overseas. Tell us, tell us about that experience. I deployed to helm And Province twice, southern Afghanistan and the heart of Poshtun country.

The first deployment was the invasion of Marja. For me, personally, it wasn't nearly as kinetic as as what I was hoping, and whatever patrol I was on, the fight usually just seemed to be ahead or behind, or left or right, and you know, it just sometimes pans out that way. My second deployment was in Garmishire, very close to the Studn Packy border, and you know, and so my combat experiences is rather minimal, especially in comparison to Jeremy's and Bens.

It was just the culture and the climate, you know, kind of adapting to that. Yeah, yeah, tell me tell me about your your brothers. I mean, part of this book, and we're speaking of Bo Wise, author of Three Wise Men, and this is described as as in essence A there's parallels to the story we all know from the very well known World War Two movies Saving Private Ryan. Your brothers both both gave their lives for their countries in combat. Tell us tell us about your brothers. Uh so they

they both did uh to Iraq and Afghanistan. Uh four deployments each. And that's that's just Iraq and Afghanistan. There were other deployments. And I mean we could have gone on well beyond three hundred pages. Um if we had

included everything as far as the other countries. But um, you know, Jeremy was he left the seal teams in August of oh nine and he was very swiftly picked up by the Central Intelligence Agency through the Contract Z and he was one of the GRS skies overseas at FOB Chapman and becaused province Afghanistan, And unfortunately he was one of the the seven CIA officials that were killed by the suicide bomber in December thirty to two thousand and nine. I was in Helman Province at the time.

I flew home and linked up with Ben and you know, we h yeah, and you know, buried him and swiftly went back to Afghanistan. And after that deployment we came home and just coincidentally we ended up back in Afghanistan at the same time again in twenty eleven, and I came home later that year and Ben's battalion got extended and he was breaching a cave in a firefight in balk Province and a cave network and he fought for

six days. After breaching a cave, he was shot multiple times in the chest, legs and growing and eventually succumbed to his wounds on January fifteenth. Today is the ninth anniversary of Ben's passing. I'm very sorry for your loss, and I think it's important for people to hear stories of this kind of harrow was a man's sacrifice, And those two things often do come together when we're talking about military service and combat zones, and we still have

soldiers deployed overseas, we still have ongoing conflict zones. People need to know that there's a cost that's being cost that's being paid, and burdens that are being carried by people like the Wise family. And to that end, please tell me a bit more about Beau, about what it was like when you found this out and you got word from the Now you you've lost two brothers in combat in these wars abroad. What was the what was the initial sense you had when they were telling you,

what was it that you were going to be? You? Did they give you the choice of being pulled out of theater? You know, I didn't know for a long time we had. I had just returned from Garmister District with First Battalion, third Marines. I was with Weapons Company KAT two and which is a second Combined Anti Armor Team.

We just got back and I had married my beautiful wife Amber right before the deployment, so we were just getting settled, settled into Kanyobe, Hawaii, and the phone call came in the night, the first one from my mom that Ben had been shot, and that is all that we knew. It did not from what we understood, it wasn't life threatening because as you know very well, Book, I mean, information comes in from you know, guys that are sometimes still in the fight when the information comes back,

so it's just incomplete. So we got everything in increments. So as the words started coming back to us, we realized that it was a bit more severe than we initially fought thought, so we made adjustments to get to Germany. When we realized that Ben was going to be transported to Landstool and Tracy, his wife, and I flew over there and we got to be with him when he when he when he passed, and then I sent the whole family home and stayed behind as a guardian angel

for for Ben when he did pass. And it wasn't until I got back to Dover that the commandant of the Marine Corps at the time, General Amos was there, and he arrived and he told my mother and father, you know, he's not going anywhere for a for a long long time. And it came as a gut check. And I think at the time I was pretty upset about it, um just fearing not just losing after having lost my blood brothers. I I think I was most

concerned about being separated from my brotherhood, my Marines. But I was allowed to stay in service for several years, and I left active duty, you know, four and a half years later in twenty sixteen, and dropped to the reserves and eventually just got out completely from r R and everything else in March of last year. Actually it's

about ten months ago. Bo, do you feel like the we're speaking to Bo Wise, author of Three Wise Men, which is just out this week and tells a story of his service and his brothers service and multiple combat tours. In theories of warfare, it feels like the fighting that's going on overseas, or even just the continued downrange presence that we have has really fallen out of most of the public's consciousness. We talk about troop withdrawal. Maybe in

Afghanistan we're down to lower numbers. How do you feel about the situation right now, because there's less you know, even i'd say four or five years ago, there was a still a real focus on support the troops. Men also understand what they're caring and what their sacrifices are as these wars go on and on and on. How do you feel about the the general American public's view

of all that right now? Well, I wouldn't like you said, Buck, I would encourage people to stay focused, especially with all you know, the political climate just being where it is.

That's that's its own beast, you know, and I want to get into but um, you know, just staying focused and staying supportive of our our men and women are service members overseas, like you know, and you know, just stay aware and you know, not just on you know, the national front, but you know local and I being out and not having been in the Eastern hemisphere and just about a decade now, Um, you know, when I come across these questions, I typically ask a Green Beret first,

just because they seem to be so calms, jack of all trades and have them. I think a very broad scope is as far as these type of things. But yeah, you're absolutely right, and we just need to stay focused and supportive of of our service members given me if I could ask you, Bo, and we thank you again for your service and also the sacrifices and service that

your your whole family has made. What would you say to you if if if I don't know if you have children, Bo, but if you have a son and your son was getting to that age where he could think about about serving and going down range and possibly being in harm's way, what would you say to him? You know, honestly, I would probably do something very similar to what my dad and my oldest brother. Um, they're

really both brothers. I mean everyone I think I was discouraged, and you know, I wouldn't say discourage them, but you know, make sure it's something that you really really want to do before you do it, and just you know, go deliberately. If if you're going to do it, you know, make sure that you you find the job that's right for you. I mean there's gosh, I mean two hundred plus jobs I think in the arm and Navy each and you know,

and I think that was the concern. I do have a son and daughter and you know they're three and two. So God Willing. I never have to have that conversation with either of them, but I would probably take a similar approach and say, you know, make sure this is really what you want to do, and if it is, you know, I'll support you wholeheartedly in defending our constitution, our rights, and American people. The book is three wise men,

Bo Wise Bo. Thank you for all you and your family have done for this country and for joining us in best of luck with the book. Hey, thank you, Buck. You're a patriot and I really appreciate it. Thanks for having me on. You're in the Freedom This is the Buck Sex and Show podcast. We need anti poverty programs and we need a fact based government that puts results over politics. Yeah. The first part is corda what I've

stood for since I started in public service. We need to make New York City the COVID comeback city, but also the anti poverty city. As mayor, we will launch the largest basic income program in the history of the country. We will lift hundreds of thousands of New Yorkers out of extreme poverty, putting cash relief directly into the hands of the families who desperately need help right now. This is the type of move that our city leadership must

make in this pandemic. Cash relief is literally the difference between a family eating and a family going hungry. It's the difference between being homeless and having a roof over your head. Andrew Yang, former Democrat presidential candidate, is going to be running for mayor in New York City, America's largest city, place where I originate this show from. And let's just say that this will be this will be interesting.

I'll tell you Andrew Yang from all I've interviewed Andrew Yang before, so he will actually speak to people from the other other political other political aisle or other aisle of the you know what I'm saying, the other side of the politics stuff. Uh, he is. He's a likable guy. He's not a nasty, you know, ill tempered, bad natured guy, which these days in politics, I find that to be kind of a rarity among Democrats. I do think that generally Republicans are a little bit more just. I'm talking

about elected Republicans are nicer. I think a lot of Democrats are very have very you know, hair trigger sensitivities, and are are very quick to be you know, snippy with people about about minor things. That's just my impression, but I'm usually right. But Andrew yang Is is a pretty nice guy. But that doesn't mean that what he's gonna do for New York City if he becomes mayor, and he will clearly be an improvement over build the Blasio.

But I think anybody, I mean, producer Mark, I mean this, you, with zero government experience and not even yet being thirty years of age, you would do a far better job running New York City tomorrow than build a Blasio. Would I think there's a lamp in my house that would do a better job than build a Blasio. But like it's not even close. I mean, you should if it were build a Blasio versus Producer Mark, Producer Mark should get ninety nine percent of the vote. We'll give one

percent of people that you know just are crazy. Um, But so so the Blasio is awful. I think yang would be better. But what I think so interesting is that there's gonna be this move now and he's gonna try to apply universal basic income to New York City and he's going to uh if he becomes the mayor, which this is a this is a year out, but he would then start giving checks to people. But what's fascinating this New York City already has a very large welfare state and a lot of welfare programs of all

different kinds. There's a lot of there's public housing and public healthcare, and there's a lot of stuff, and he wants to expand on that. I think what we'd see is that it wouldn't really work as an anti poverty program the way it's set up. And so the experiment of New York City being in some ways on the cutting edge of progressive policy, well, especially if I'm not here, is they don't have to worry about it. It'll be interesting because I think I think it would fail. I

don't think it'll work. And this is a city that has been put through so much that you'll if there were good ideas and it boomed back, we would be able to tell. But this is a circumstance where I believe that if Andrew Yang got his way and you would have this, you're just gonna have more and more flight from New York City, because who's going to pay for all this stuff? You know, for a lot of people, you have to think of time is money or money is time, And so when they're taking more and more

of your money. They're actually taking more and more hours of your life. And you can be in a place where they don't do that because they have lower taxes, or you could be here. What's the advantage. Now, I've mentioned before the Democrat plan is to then deal with this from a top down level by using the federal purse to backstop blue cities that are hemorrhaging residents. But

this is the ideas they're putting forward. There's a part of me that wants to see Yang do his thing in New York because one, he's better than Bill the Blasio, because Bill the Blazer it's the worst. But two, you'll see that this stuff doesn't actually the same way. We're going to figure out the hardware that a fifteen dollars minimum wage doesn't mean that everyone all of a sudden is out of poverty who works a job. You'll see that doesn't work that way. But we have to see

it first. We'll see that the universal basic income doesn't end poverty somehow or even even make a dent in it. But we got to see, I suppose in the blue enclaves in the Democrat strongholds. Thanks for listening to the buses and show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, the iHeart Radio app four where you get your podcasts. The show ain't over yet, folks, keeping it real. It's time for roll call, Yeah, roll call. We're going off

to the weekend. Everybody. It's gonna be a great weekend for everybody, right producer Mark. Of course, we're always working for the weekend. Indeed, everyone, it's gonna be. It's gonna be awesome. Wenna, a great time this weekend. Everyone forget about all the all the stuff, the tense and gray and sad and bad. Right now in America, we're gonna have a good we all of us individually, with our families and loved ones. We're all gonna have a good weekend.

Those are your orders. Start it. Eat something yummy, watch something entertaining, Read something in you know, intrigue, you're inspiring or whatever, or the producer Mark, check out the the hockey points or score. I don't want to talk about hockey right now. What happened? The Rangers didn't I don't think they played last night. I'm just gonna forget the game happen. This was your this was your Rangers against the the Islanders. Yeah, well it was I believe game

last night. Yeah. Now do you want to tell us the difference between Islanders at Rangers face? Well, right now, Islander fans are happy and Ranger fans very unhappy. Here there we go. All right, Well, you know is there any other there other games this weekend? Well, they're playing the Elders again tomorrow, and there's football this weekend. So that's that's fun. Okay, that's football. Maybe maybe I'll check

check some of that playoffs. Deep. I'm deep into Pull Dark, which I'm very much enjoying, but I'm looking for other shows I may try. Um oh gosh, I wrote down I've got to show that I want to watch, but I no, I can't even know what it was. I can't get excited about this Halt and catch Fire. I keep trying to watch it. It looks like it's pretty well done, but it's about a bunch of like nerds making computers or something. I don't know. I don't really care. I gotta find I asked people. I said it's a

good Everyone says it's good, but I'm I'm not sold. Oh, we're gonna make computers that are faster than the other person's computers. I don't know, and it doesn't really you know, it doesn't really blow my mind. That's all I'm saying. If you got any ideas for great shows or anything, that's a good thing to write into roll call. I remember, go to bucksx and dot com, Facebook, dot com, slashbuck sex, then check it all out. All right, let's go, Calvin Buck.

I'm listening to you tonight. I understand your thoughts on how to get back in power. I'd like to ask you a question. In the past, when we did not approve of the job our elected officials were doing, our only way to change policy was to vote them out. That option has now been taken away from us. We can't go to the judiciary for recompense. Your idea of winning elections locally is nice. However, I don't think the Democratic Party will take their newfound illegitimate wins in the

national election and use it locally. My fear is that it may take a revolution to set things straight, would require the military to perform a coup. I'm not advocating for that. However, we truly have fascists that have taken over our government. What other way do you see of resolving itself peacefully. Um, Calvin, it's not as bad as

it seems right now. And I know that's trite. I know people are gonna say ah, and I can hear them throwing the cold French fries that have fallen at the bottom of their cars they're driving listening to the show. I know they're throwing it at the radio screen or whatever. But yeah, it's not as bad as it seems. We're well, we'll get through this and we're gonna we're gonna be all right. You know, it's fine. The country is see because this is what this is what the good news

that I have for you. The Democrats are democrats, and it's not going to change. They can't help but do Democrat things, and they're gonna do things that enough people will see and they'll say, oh gosh, hold on a second. They've got really really bad ideas, right, They've got really bad ideas that they're implementing. So that's just one thing

I'd want to put out there right there. The Democrats right now, they haven't yet had their way, so it's hard to lock in on how they're failing because they're not yet doing stuff. And I'm talking about the Biden Harris. I know there's a lot of Democrats stuff happening, but I mean the Biden Harris administration. They have not yet

taken power. Once they do and we're all subjected to the wokeness and the left wing insanity and all that stuff, then all of a sudden, be say, okay, guys, remember how they said it's gonna be so much better when Trump was gone, and this, that and the other reason it's not working out that way, is it? And that will give us our opportunity, that will give us our chance to start to mount a political response. But I

understand there's also a let to here. Let's let's all be very This is the this is the freedom hunt. This is a place for we're all. We're all friends and family in this. If you're listening to this, even if you're a crazy lib it listens in just so you can, you know, write me angry emails or something. You know what, We'll even pretend you're a part of the family too. The the Trump administration there was now I think a lot of people would say, to be fair,

they thought they were gonna have eight years. They only had four. But there's a lot of stuff that didn't get done that we needed to get done. And so there's also that frustration, that sense of letdown that it wasn't even like we had every you know everything, There was all this stuff accomplished that people said, oh, Trump accomplished the most. That Trump kept saying that, well a lot was accomplished in four years if you had four more years to solidify and to expand. But we're gonna

be honest here. I mean, what tax cuts and regulations I don't want to hear it. Okay, that's gone. Now that's all gone, that goes away. What major legislation. I mean the trade deals? Yes, absolutely, great trade deals done, no new or expand their major wars. Absolutely, that's that's very good there. I'm not saying there weren't things accomplished, but there's something. Did we get the wall finished? No, we did not. That's a fact. There's no arguing that.

It's just a fact. Did we handle the illegal immigration problem in a way where we you know, it's been we have figured out what the pathway forward for America is without just having amnesty for you know, fifteen million people or whatever the number will be. Um, No, we did not. And now Democrats are gonna go for that, They're gonna go for amnesty, and you know, there's a lot of there's a lot of stuff that that didn't get done. And now we go to the other side.

What are they going to try to accomplish? What are they going to try to do now that they have power? And I can understand that can feel a little bit overwhelming right now, But folks just talk about revolution. Everything else is this is It's honestly, it's it's just absurd and damaging right now. Anybody that's really thinking out loud about that in a major way, I think a lot of people are venting, and they're using that kind of talk as a as a mechanism for just letting some

of that political frustration. It's as kind of catharsis for people right now. I mean, I can't believe Look, I was saying in the beginning of this, I'll tell you the truth. I mean, Joe Biden is prey. I just couldn't believe it that that was going to happen. And I'm talking about at the early stage of the primary. I mean, this guy, if Joe Biden can be preisident and it means any any random dude who has some name recognition on the Democrat side could be president because

you need no skills or or particular ability whatsoever. I mean, Joe Biden is in so many ways the ultimate mediocrity. And this guy is a president. Now, you know, I say, what your lit about Trump? The guy's dynamic, the guy's had, you know, tremendous successes and some some failings in his career beforehand. He's you know, he's a salesman. He's got a vision, and he's got you know, there's all this, there's a lot about Trump brings a lot to the table. Love him or hate him, he brings a lot to

the table. What does Joe Biden bringing the table? I mean, Joe Biden, no joke, you know you're him. I'm just gonna read all the speeches like this rio sometimes it makes me seem authoritative. Now we're gonna go back to a time when you might fall asleep during speeches. Heck I might fall asleep during speeches. I mean, that's what we're heading toward now for our commander in chief. Get ready for it. But as I've said to you, he's

just he's really just the puppet. I mean, he's the instrument for the implementation of the left wing agenda, So that is also out there and we need to be aware of it. Jamie Buck, Nancy Pelosi is moving forward with impeachment proceedings on the president because he supposedly encouraged a violent protest on the Capitol Building. I believe what she's doing also encourages violent protests, and she knows it. She is not going after the president. She is attempting

to incite violence. Is she not just as guilty of what she is accusing the president of? Jamie, I please right back in and give me a little more of what specifically you're referring to, or you know what's on your mind about this, because I mean, I don't what do you mean by Pelosi is inciting violence? I mean, in the past she said there should be upright, she doesn't know why there aren't uprisings. Now she would say

that's an observation, not incitement. So I understand what they're what their tone would be, and what they would say about all this, But I just I wonder what exactly what exactly, Jamie are referring to give me a little more details, and I think I can give you a better response in the next roll call, Kelly Buck love the show, Well, Kelly, show loves the Buck. Oh no, the show loves you. Not the show loves the Buck. Sorry,

the show loves the Kelly. If the big tech companies are private businesses that can do what they want and censor the president and conservatives, why can't we use this logic against them. If private businesses can do what they want, then private businesses should open right now. Well, Kelly, what they mean by that is that private businesses outside of an area that the government is already deciding for them,

has has autonomy and decision making. But I think what you're getting to is the larger point about how it's just the business just has a right to do this because we say, you know, because they say so is not enough in a whole lot of other areas. You know, the government will say it's too much of a health risk. Well, now, I think conservatives are turning around too much of a

health risk to operate during COVID. I think a lot of conservatives are going to turn around and say it's too much of a risk to free speech and the First Amendment for big tech companies to be making partisan decisions about what you can say, same kind of regulation that the Democrats love for all kinds of things. Conservatives are going to be using it now or trying to use it. But I know some of you already saying,

how Buck, we don't have control. I know, I know we don't have control, and I don't have an answer, And I don't think anybody really has an answer right now about this other than we try to convince more and more of our fellow Americans of the righteousness of our positions, of our ideas or the rightness of them. Oh, and righteousness depends. So Kelly, thank you, Thank Kelly. I guess ultimately thank you for having great taste in a

radio or podcast program because you're listening to this one. Michael, mister Saxon a producer, Mark, I have two points, and I'll make them quick. First, I am, probably like most of your listeners, blue collar father and die heart American. How do I explain to my kids we have to trust our constitution when we see those in control disregard at like a Walmart receipt. Second, thank you for your honesty and diligence. We have all seen the conspiracy and

side of this election. I hear more and more, but I also know if it doesn't get brought up on your show, probably isn't real and it's just that conspiracy. So thank you for the open and honest content you provide. You're doing all of us to serve as shields high ps. Ohio would welcome you back with open arms. And we have several hockey teams for a producer mark to enjoy. Are there a producer mark? Are there any good Ohio based hockey teams? Well, there's the Columbus Blue Jackets. They're

okay blue. What is a blue jacket? I think it's a revolutionary war type of thing. Oh, they have a big cannon that they shoot off when they score goals. It's not they'll actually shoot the cannon, but it makes the noise. And then again, okay, I was always kind of jealous that the Patriots had the can and not the Patriots. The Buccaneers had cannons for their football games, remember that when I when I used to watch the Giants. Yes, they have a pirate ship in the stadium. That's where

the Super bowlers this year. Oh, look at that. It's a pretty cool stadium you're in. This is the Buck Show podcast hypothetical question for you Buck. This comes from TJ. Would America have been better off with four years Obama and eight years of Romney than the eight years of Obama and four years of of Trump that we got. Clearly, in hindsight, most Republicans don't look upon Romney that favorably, but much of perception has developed in the past four

years of Trump. As someone who voted for Romney myself and by the way, t J, I voted for Romney too, albeit not nearly as educated as I am now, I still think my instinctual answer would be yes, eight years of Romney would have been better than the last four years of Obama and first four of Trump. Well, that expending too much more in that though, Let's hear you. PS. This is not an anti Trump comment, but purely a

thought exercise. I still think Trump was a good president, but like you, I think there are some blunders in his tenure that need to be revisited and properly critique before we can move on to the next chapter. Well, TJ, I appreciate that, and I think I think that's just where we all need to be. We all need to understand that we've got to have honest conversations about what went right and what didn't during the Trump presidency, because now it's not about, oh, you don't want Trump to win.

He didn't win. It's over right, So we can at least talk about, well, why didn't he win? And we want to talk about election irregularities that can be a part of it, but there's other stuff too. And as for eight years, yeah, I mean I think that you could make the argument. Interestingly enough, Obama for the first four years were more I think you could argue more impactful a long term than his second four years. Certainly

from a legislative perspective, that's true with Obamacare. But just as a thought experiment, it would have been would it have been better to have had eight years of Romney than four of Obama and four of Trump? I think it's impossible to know, TJ. And I appreciate that you're asking me as a thought experiment, but you know, Romney would have been pretty wishy washy on a lot of things we can tell, right, I mean, look at what he says about BLM. Now, Romney would have been very

I think, very malleable as a Republican. And I also think that you would have had you would never I don't think you ever would have had eight years of Romney. I think you would have had four years of Romney and then four years of Hillary. I think that's really the thought experiment. So then how does that make you feel? So you gotta dswer that one for me? TJ. Caleb buck love the show. You're absolutely right on the Capitol Hill riot. Political violence is abhorrent, no matter what side

does it. My question is concerning the GOP and I Trump did flat out lose to Biden. What are we supposed to think that someone as deeply unimpressive as Biden got eighty million votes plus eighty million plus votes campaigning from his basement while Trump outperformed his twenty sixteen campaign effort, especially since Trump performed better with minorities than any other GOP candidate in recent memory. Thank you for what you do, Shields High My questions doing the GP of Trump did

flat out lose to Biden? What are we supposed to think eighty million plus votes campaigning for his basement? Caleb? The media is very powerful. We were to pandemic year. Everybody was watching more news and more reading more stuff on the internet and social media than ever before. I know it's hard to believe, but you know, Trump got seventy five million votes. Maybe Biden did get the eighty million, and I know no one wants to hear that, but you know, let's let's prove otherwise. But we got to

prove otherwise, not just say otherwise. And that's where we are. So yeah, I mean, I know that's not the way I want to send you off the weekend. Have a but have a great weekend, everybody. Enjoy yourselves, relaxed, take care of yourselves. We've gotta got a heck of a week coming up. Next week, we'll be in it together though shields high