Chadwick Moore - Trans Activists Are Targeting Kids

get into this. First off, you wrote a book, so you've been sent to diversity training. I gotta wonder, first of all, have you ever had to go through diversity training? Because I have at many levels. Yes, in college, then in the federal government, then local government, the NYPD, and then you know, a little bit on the corporate side, not as much. So tell me about this, Ah, I

should have interviewed you for the book. Go to a four year public university, so that was four years of diversity training even you know, however long ago was I graduated. But I've you know, I've I've been so removed from the corporate world my whole life. That was sort of on purpose. I wanted to design my life, so I

never had to go into an office. So I was really fascinated about what was happening in corporate America because I think corporate America is sort of interesting and all of it and all of its uh mundane actions and I uh, but I did go to diversity training when I was writing for magazines, other liberal magazines. I went to an NYPD diversity training seminar, which I included in the book and wrote about that I've had to go to one of those because I worked in the Intel division.

But keep going, oh yeah, yeah, so you know, and it was about yeah, that was that was a really fun and interesting experience. But also that was that diversity training I went to was in twenty fifteen, and that was before the Summer of Our Floyd, which, of course, across the spectrum, both in private and in the public sector, diversity training took a really nasty, hateful, and very racialized take after the riots of summer twenty twenty and after

George Floyd's death. So a lot of that, A lot of the stuff in the book is um I was talking to people during this time or immediately right afterwards, so they were noticing how things had changed, and how HR had sort of ramped up the really sort of grotesque racial rhetoric that has no place in well anywhere into Sidney, but especially on the job and in the public sector. So would you find you wrote this book your research the book? Thought, right, that's that's I have

a feeling we're going on that director. Well, it's interesting because you know, I like that fun. So I knew this would be a fun thing to write about and talk about. And I wanted to mock these people. I want to talk about the ridiculousness, and I wanted to get everyday people's perspectives. So I talked to guys on

oh Riggs. I talked to police officers, I talked to guys in the military, talk to people who work on you know, retail sales floors, it directors, so all walks of life across the economy, and just sort of wanted to know, like, what's your experience with diversity training? What do you think is going on here? And a lot of people were, you know, we're so um, it's such a part of our society now. They at first they would sort of say like, why don't we know why

you care about this? Stuff. You know, here's what happened, Here's that I experienced. And the more they thought about it, the more they remember, the more they talked about it, the kind of more disturbed they got by what they'd sort of been forced to sit through. And also it's um you know. But my favorite was this guy who I called Jeremy. Of course, nobody I interviewed wanted to be identified by name because they're all scared of being fired from their jobs if they speak about these things.

But he worked on an oil rig. He works on an oil rig off the of the coast of Newfoundland and Canada in the Atlantic Ocean. And the first thing he says to me is, I you know, I said, so tell me about what's happening on the job with the diversity training. He said, well, just yesterday, we had pink shirt day on the rig and I'm like, excuse me, Yeah, all these guys in the oil rig had to wear

pink shirts for some diversity cause. And this was during COVID, so they hand out pink face masks and then they had to take pictures off. I'd win in the pink shirts to send it to corporate, because corporate, you know, it's the oil industry, so of course they're in the crosshairs of Canada's liberal government. The Resources Minister of Canada is from that areas. He's representative from Newfoundland, so they

really got to like, you know, cozy up. The way that the oil industry in particular, and I documented this not just in Canada but around the world. One way the oil industry is casing up to liberal governments is through this diversity stuff. You know, there's a gay pride is very big in the oil industry. For these guys on oil rigs. They have to wear gay pride t shirts and June and take a photo the Canadian Resource Minister, who I just spoke about. This guy's in charge of

of course handing out all the dueling contracts. He's openly gay and it's a big deal for him. So and you start looking at things like that. That's just one example. You start to see what corporate America gets out of all this stuff. You know, we talk about like why is corporate America so woke? Obviously, like the CC suite executives are probably conservative, they're probably conservative people, but yet

they let their corporations go so completely blindly woke. And then you start looking more into the political favors they're trying to give game from it, and it starts to make a lot more sense judgment from what I've seen in the corporate world, and also in the administrative upper echelons and academia, and even when the federal government. You know,

certainly there are there are people. There are many different levels of why the politically correct pressure or wokeness, whatever people want to call it, why it is so powerful, And one of them is that it's really the only way.

Like once one person on let's say the board of a company is a racial Marxist, let's say, or a gender Marxist, a woke person, everybody else on that board lives in fear because that person wields a certain power that can destroy the reputation and possibly career of everybody else around them. Just but that's the power that has wielded in these rooms. So yeah, you know, the CEO maybe is a capitalist, let's just say, and in some of these places that's not even really the case. But

the CEO may be a capitalist. But if his chief marketing officer and certainly chief of diversity decides that that CEO is insufficiently devoted to the cause can go to the board and say, you guys, either get rid of the CEO or you're all racist, bigoted and in on it too, right, And it's very hard to get for a lot of these places, it's actually hard to get fired. The only way you get fired is by upsetting d

Ei in HR. Yeah, that's exactly right. And if there's one thing that top executives never ever want, it's to be the subject of a Twitter mob or to have their face in the paper, unless it's, of course, some fluffy business article praising them for great leadership. So they will do anything to avoid that sort of attention. It

doesn't matter if they're what their political persuasions are. But you're you're right when you mentioned that one person on the board, because that's just sort of a microcosm for our society that we're living in anyway, where there's the tiny, tiny, vocal, but absolutely terrifying minority that has nothing better to do and basically nothing better to live for than to take on these causes because it somehow feeds them or makes them feel worthwhile or gives their like meaning or whatever.

And they turned it into absolutely a religion and an a belief that they enforced with religious fervor, which of course means that anything they do is justified means to the ends, and they have no problems whatsoever destroying people's lives and going scorched earth for their very strange, new fangled social religion. Yeah, I'm fond of reminding people that in the Russian Civil War, in the beginning of the Soviet Union, you know, there were the Bolsheviks and the Mensheviks.

The Bolsheviks took on the name majority Arrians essentially, even though they never represented any majority of any part of the society. Really, in fact, that Mensheviks would have had more popular support if anyone actually looked at what was going on in the country at the time. But they call themselves the majority, and then they were just the most committed, ruthless and saying radicals and essentially aid all

the other fish in the aquarium. And that's that is how they you know, that is how this stuff plays out, That's how it works, Like it's not. Actually, I think people sometimes confuse u political even in the corporate world, political power with the agreement or even a majority agreement of everybody involved. Like you have a couple of committed leftist Marxist types in the upper echelons of a university, of a corporation, and they can turn the whole place

upside down. That's that's the actual reality I think that people see. And also the d on the on the d E side, you know, they they're hiring and hiring based upon these very explicit criteria of you know, gender and identity diversity and racial diversity, all these different things. Well, that hasn't too right. I mean, the CEOs of these companies, whether it's you know, Twitter or Disney, are scared of the twenty five year olds, you know, threatening the stage

some kind of a walkout and create bad press. I mean the twenty five year olds who worked for them, right, yeah, yeah they are. Yeah, it's it's the it's the insane braddy children who are running the asylum. And and you know, I remember this back when I was working in liberal media and it was you know, the the the older editors who were maybe a few years older than me were very liberal, but not insane and definitely not woke and would certainly support having a more conservative view in

their publications or at least you know, willing to do that. Um, and and things that I would write that were maybe more conservative, they defended. But you would see the twenty five year olds in the office literally signing online petitions against publicly against their employers, saying that they don't support this and this is hateful and blah blah blah blah blah, and it's just so astounding to me. I could never met going against your boss like that, even if you disagree.

But these young people have absolutely no qualms because they know they have the mob to back them up and back to um what you're mentioning earlier, not just with Russia. I mean, it's as far as I know your your background, and this is much better than mind. Almost every time there's been some sort of violent, sudden revolutionary Marxist takeover of any country, it's always been that tiny percent. Then pretends that their majority correct every single time. That is

you're one hundred. That is the playbook these these extreme and they try to collopt other groups who are more moderate. In the beginning they say, yeah, this is about the people and the workers, and then it's you do what we say, we control everything, or relying you up against the wall and shoot you. It's always it's always the way that this stuff actually goes. But you know, people

power to the people. Sure, Um, I want to ask you chat about the h the activist lgbt Q community and the gay community specifically, and how this drag queen story Hour for HIDS thing is somehow always being turned into the struggle for like by democrats and buy activists. They always compare this to like the struggle for gay rights. And I want your take on this. In just a second, we'll get into we'll get into this, Okay, Friends, I want to prepare you because things are going to get

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Would you say of your friends who are also from the LGBTQ community When you have Joe Biden say you know what we have to do about transgender surgery for kids, we have to, you know, do a thing like we did for marriage equality. And I'm sitting here and I just I'm like a thirteen year old having puberty blockers and a double mistact to me because she thinks that she's actually a man is a very different thing than

two consenting adults who want to get married. I mean, I think whatever, one thing, I think that's pretty straightforward, but there's always this effort to connect these things. Yeah, So the reaction of the gays, you know, publicly is obviously petrified silence, because of course they're terrified of saying anything that goes against once again, that vocal minority we

are just discussing. But privately it's horrifying any I mean not just any, I mean any normal, sane person, and of course there are plenty, not all, but plenty of normal saying gay people would look at this on so many levels as the disgusting Joseph Mangla level experiment that it is on this transgender uti mutilation, mutila mutilating, excuse

me of kids. One thing though, that is sort of particular to the gays that they rarely, almost never would say in public, but absolutely one hundred percent say in private, is this looks like conversion therapy. It looks like medicalized conversion therapy. It looks you see, I think you see a lot of gay people saying, like, you know, I was maybe a more feminine little boy, or maybe I was a more butch little girl, like a little tomboy.

And what if I had had some Harvard professor parents that said, well, you know, you can be a boy, you could be the other sex if you actually what you might actually be that, how would I reacted? I probably would have said, oh, yeah, that sounds great, Yes, let's do it. And then absolutely, you know, signed yourself up for a life of medical dependency and mutilation and sterility and everything that comes with that and psychological care.

So it's really scary and discussing on that. And you know, an I think it's interesting is the country in the world that performs the most sex change operations, well the at most versus Thailand. The country forms of second sex change operations is Iran, where of course it's illegal to be gay. They will kill you. And the reason for that is the government based for sex change operations because they look at it as a cure for your homosexuality.

So that's interesting when we're thinking about what's happening here with the left, But this whole it's it's so bizarre because the people who are pushing this stuff, it's it's it's mostly trans old transactivists who started too late, so they don't quite look the way they think that they should look, think that if they had just started as children, their lives would be perfect. And then you have straight people and particularly straight liberal moms that are really pushing this.

It's almost like they want a little transgender pet that they can show off at cocktail parties. They want to feel special and unique and diverse by having this in their family. Maybe it's like a kind of Munchausen syndrome by proxy. I don't know. But you have these parents who are pushing this, and it's so pathetic and so strange.

And you see these moms taking their kids to drag shows like they believe and I truly think that they believe it's some sort of civil rights crusade that they're embarking on by taking their children and their toddlers to see half naked gay clowns dancing around to pop music. They almost think like they're marching on Selma or something. It's super strange. But the only thing that does same with the transcept the drag Queen Story Hour. It hurts gay rights. It hurts gay people. You might have very

conservative people who have no problem with gays. They got a gay neighbor or gay hairdresser who knows no problem, live and let live attitude. But then you have this being forced upon society and this becomes a face of gay Now you have to bring your kids to a drag show, and no one can support that. It actually creates more discord and more hatred. If there is any towards the gay community, it's something. It's a truly bizarre

and sixth situation. I also think it's interesting that, like so many arguments made by the left and by the activist class of the left, they went from this isn't really happening. Why are you so focused on it too? Now it's all over the place. I mean, the the Attorney General for the State of New York, Latissa James, is sponsoring a drag Queen story hour for children. Right, Okay, so so we're no, we're way past this. Oh why are you talking about it? It's not really a thing. No, no,

They've made this a thing. And you know, if if a normal like day, you know, if a thirty five year old woman wanted to wear fish nets and a thong and shake her butt in front of five year olds literally as we see in these videos and things like four or five year olds with their parents, you know, there, I would think there was something deeply wrong with that woman.

A man with like you know is I mean, I can't with the fishnets and like you know, the man thighs and everything else, shaking is behind in front of small children, like this is grotesque. And yet if you if you have any you know, Antifa has started showing up protecting these these things as well. I mean, this

has become a central cause for the left. And what's amazing is that if you take it all the way up the White House level, I mean Joe Biden, mister like, I'm a Union guy from Delaware, centrist, moderate Democrat grandpa, which is all bullcrap, but that's his whole that was the whole branding pitch. He's on board with drag Queen Story Hour for kids and for drag shows for children. Yeah, and I keep finding myself thinking, you know, like, uh,

like I love drag as adult nightlife entertainment. You know, I love uh yeah, love the campiness, and I love you know, the rebel try. And I do think that you do have some talented drag queens out there. I know a lot of straight guys you really enjoy going to the cabaret he with ladies that are not really much in clothing on and who dance sometimes people to dollar bills. But they're adults, right of course. And and I just well, I never thought i'd see either of

these things in my lifetime. This bringing children into it is so sick and weird. I try to grapple with like, who are these drag queens that are doing this that would actually perform a part of children? And the best thing I can come up with is, I mean, first, if you watch the videos and you know anything about drag like, they're not They're not at the top of the totem pole when it comes to talent. They're kind of like the lower like booker drag queens. So there's

that they're probably really poor. They're probably like, oh, I need fifty bucks and these uh, this library is gonna pay me to show up. They're probably extremely low IQ they're not very smart people. But also in their mind, I can't I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt and say that they're not all pedophiles, and I know that a lot in the right. It's this whole Rhetorican's grooming, which is, you know, a very real thing.

Especially we see a lot of teachers. I have to believe that they're not all pedophiles, and they're just sort of stupid and poor. And also I I would think that they have some thing in the back of their mind. They think that there's some gay kid in the room that's going to see them and then feel more comfortable, So I think they're doing some sort of good service.

Or they also justify it on the grounds of well, I'm sort of dressed like Beyonce would be dressed, and they probably see Beyonce doing this on TV, so it's fine. That doesn't excuse any of it. It's grotesque and children shouldn't even be seeing Beyonce doing that. But I struggle to understand. I struggled understand why anyone would sign up

to perform for children in that manner. I get the parents who are doing this, and yeah, we haven't even them but I understand their psychology and I think they're pathetic for me. But if the if the response to this was, you know, from from the activists and the left and whatever, was a are fine, you know, no more with the kids. We're just gonna do. No one's complaining about drag shows for adults. It's like not even a thing. And they like to pretend that it's anti

LGBTQ and anti trans anty. There is nobody on the right who is making noise because we weren't making noise about drag show, you know, the last twenty years. Nobody cares. Fine, some people like it, some people go to it. That's fine. They're adults for children. We're talking about for kids. And what's interesting is that they double down on it. You know, even when now it has been called out, they're saying, no, this is I mean the attorney general for New York State, right,

I mean, this is not some fringe political figure. Uh, it's it's really it's it's crazy. What's what's going on? Um? And I think that go ahead? Uh no, well I was, I was. Uh no, no, I think I've lost my show thought. Um they oh oh yeah, yeah, Well in the same Vein. Also, they absolutely love it. They absolutely love it because they can cry hatred and oppression. You know. Now it's um you know, you see like what's that

show Rupulse Drag Race. So I haven't watched a long time, but you know all their posts like drag is under attack now in this country. It's like, no, it's not. It's just the children. But they love this because they desperately need fundraising. They desperately need uh things to uh to. They need they need issues, they need things that they can say and they can play victims status. And what I was gonna say is, you know, the the same the same thing kind of happens with the books that

are in some of the kids libraries. They always say the Rohn de Santists, for example in Florida, is banning books. That's just a lie. It would be like saying we're trying to talk about banning drag. No one's trying to ban drag shows. It's about the appropriateness of a kind of content for children. And did you see that he did a press It was brilliant. Rohnd de Santis did

a press conference. They started to put up on the screen photos of some of the books that were that were being given to these kids from their school sharing you know, sharing wall library whatever they have, and it was so pornographic that the news cameras had to turn off. Oh yeah, oh oh. The Left crying about book burning is my favorite thing ever. There's suddenly care about speech when it's u pernup pornographic graphic novels for five years old.

Oh now they care about speech. But don't you dare crack a joke on Twitter, because then you deserve what you're getting as well as to be fired from your job. Just wonderful, Just wonderful. And I remember the left. This whole recent spade of banning books and schools started with the left. I believe it. It It was books like Huck Finn and these American classics that use words that are now outdated well now, and now they're editing them after

the fact, as you know, they're going back. They're changing, real dull, they're changing. They're changing Samuel Clemens, Mark Twain, you know, they're they're changing these different these different authors. You mentioned something, by the way, joke on Twitter. Not seeing a lot of chad for those you don't know used to used to throw fiery bombs all over the place. On Twitter, We're not seeing as much these days. I want to ask what's going on there, But I've got

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What's going on? I'm not man, you know what I mean? Okay, Well, I'm I'm I'm buokley. I write another book, which has been insane. I can't. I don't think I'm really talk about what it's about. But um but at the same time, I've just been so burned out on social media. You know. I realized Buck, I'll tell you what. I've realized. I'm almost forty, and I realized that I never really enjoyed it, and I always felt like I just really had to

be honest. Also, I'm an emotional Twitter, so like, I just bang things out when I'm feeling at the moment, and I'm gonna point where I'm like, I don't give a shit and I oh, sorry, I look like I can cost on here. I don't care and you know, I'm just like, I don't wanna read these replies whatever. I'm also kind of, um, I'm taking I'm taking the approach of embracing boomer media. I just love books and

magazines and TV and radio. I mean, what can I say, I'm doubling down on old media, That's what I'm thinking. And social it's it's I mean, Elon Musk obviously has done a better service in this country than any politician has, and I don't know how many years by purchasing Twitter, if he stands by everything that's that he's been doing, even just exposing that it was a total that it was a totally rigged game, that it was this playground

of left wing ideological bias always and at all times. Um. But I also feel like there are so many of these platforms now and everyone's just it's you're it's all, You're all sort of you know, you're disaggregated. I mean, you're it's just like, what are you gonna be posting on TikTok? This is why people tell me, like, you should post more on Instagram. I'm like, what I'm doing three hours of radio a day. I gotta prep for that show. You know, I'm you know, I'm writing a

book actually, so I can't talk about it either. But I got a book underway, I got things. I'm you know, I'm gonna be taking photos of what my breakfast like, I'm not delusual. I'm not saying you're taking all these like selfies, like, hey, everybody like check me out? So Instagram, TikTok, snapchat. Facebook. By the way, what is Facebook anymore? I haven't been on my personal Facebook account in like six years at this point. Oh yeah, I mean, who's still on there?

I have to go on there occasionally for a client and like check the Facebook, and I'm just like, what is going on here? Who even runs? Who's looking at this stuff? It's so bizarre, Just well, what do you think happens? I mean, do you think it's Are we gonna have more of a consolidation in It's funny because they keep saying they're gonna ban TikTok, this is what they're always talking about. I don't understand. I feel like we should be able to figure out a way where

the data is stored on US servers. The Chinese don't have access to it, you know, full stop, And there's full transparency. Like everyone keeps saying, oh, they're gonna program our kids in Beijing's gonna see all this, And I'm like, uh, do you guys know what our kids are being programmed with anyway? I mean, like, I just you know, I think that I don't really see the argument if you can create some stop gap where yeah, I mean, we don't want all this data sitting on servers in Beijing

or whatever. It would be very easy if it was on US servers to know if Chinese were accessing this in any meaningful way. But I think there's like one hundred million people on TikTok or something now in the in the US. I mean there's some crazy high number, much higher than I thought. Young people are all on it, and we're gonna get rid of it. And I'm sitting here saying, so what what is that? What's left at

that point? I mean, Twitter's got some problems. I love what Elon's trying to do, but it's just technologically got issues right now. I don't know. I mean I think we're like, like, is TikTok just going to disappear overnight? The way that um, I don't snapchat. Snapchat still a thing. Snapchat is still a thing. I didn't even know a Snapchat was still a thing, but I remember it was d thing. I always knew Snapchat was going to fall apart because this whole thing about like putting like cat

ears on yourself once you're older. By the way I use this even but even back when I was a single man, you know, and you would see like people's on their Instagram that their photos and some of them would use their Snapchat stuff on it, you know, where they have like the you know, the dog nose or the cat ears or whatever. I'm like, you're I'm like, you're twenty eight, twenty nine years You're you're out. You know,

you're out of the water. Like yeah, if you're twelve years old, you could have your little cat filter from Snapchat, but you know, once you get to be an adults. So I always thought that Snapchat was was preposterous. And all the other thing too is I was like, hey, this it all disappears. It's the Internet. It doesn't disappear. It goes somewhere. They have whatever you're sending and it goes somewhere. So that was the other part of this.

It was like, oh, people were like you can just send whatever photos I want to be like, I wouldn't do that. Yeah, yeah, Oh don't worry. It's gonna be totally gone. No one's story somewhere, So yeah, I know, I just I wonder, you know, I feel like we've had in some ways, it's almost like we finally broke into the party here. You know, we finally got past the bouncers for social media on the right after being really shut out for the last few years. And this

party is looking kind of dead right now. It's not a lot going on. The kegs are running dry, you know, they've switched from a live band to like the you know, the schlumpy DJ. It's not good, it's true. And maybe a part of that is that the left is more they're not as fun right now because they're well, they're

subdued because they got their guy in office. But also they're seeing how crazy and in saying everything is, so they don't have that fervor they did do the Trump years, which made it so fun to torment them and see what sort of crazy things they are saying. Maybe if we have a Republican president after this one, then the left will get newly entertaining and social media. But did you get some Trump retweets back in the day. No, I never got a Trump reach. I was so upset

by that. So I'll just tell you this was the I did. There was I got six Trump retweets in a row ups. So it was like it was like my Trump's was just buck sex that And and it was funny because I remember I got like weird text messages from people who I don't know from work anymore, you know, from from media world anymore or whatever, like high school classmates were like, hey, man, like, I guess the big guy really, like you know, I'm just seeing here,

was like, what is this? But the best part of it was that in that was the high point of Twitter in a lot of ways, even though the Left was cheating and doing all kinds of stuff and they

used it to steal the election. And that's a whole other conversation, but one of the high points of it was that if you got in the Trump even if you didn't get a retweet from him, but if you just kind of got into that like Trump hashtag world, all of a sudden, some like a third tier actor from like nineteen ninety four that you saw in some b action movie would be like talking smack to you. You're like wait, you like like, yeah, how did this happen?

Like the guy from one of the guys from one of those SVU shows was like you like maybe if you actually loved your country bub And I'm like wait, it's like aren't you like aren't you like you know detective you know mcicoli or something like what like how did this happen? I remember when I got like a retweet or a follow from not so not not a mean one, but a nice from Kato Kalin. Oh yeah, j love my Twitter. Kato Kalin amazing, Yeah dude, I had.

I mean, he's he's obviously well established in conservative circles, but through Twitter, I got to know, um, Kevin Sorbo because I used to love the Hercules Legendary Journey shows when I was when I was a kid, I thought that was because I love Greek mythology. Um. Some other fun ones, like other Twitter people. I mean James Woods. James Woods is one of the only people who on Twitter.

I mean, I'm like, I'm agreed with all the tweets, but sometimes I'm kind of like, oh, that's like a that's like a curb stump like ah, like it hurts to watch that, you know. You know, they have some of those videos where like a you know, like a gymnast will fall a certain way or something and they just like and you're just or even more skaters, a skater will you know, hit the rail and you just like those gym videos where they break an arm like mid curl like some of the James Woods tweets against

the Libs. I just felt bad for the Libs. I was like, oh man, he he goes, he went, he went rough in the paint like that's a guy that threw some elbows back in the day. So anyway, Twitter so much talent on Twitter. There's so many people were so good at Twitter. That is an amazing thing. Definitely, you know what I mean. I hope they'll bring it back and it gets to be fun like it like it used to be. It's got all these problems now, but we'll see. But Chadwick will come back if it's fun,

maybe he'll make it fun. Where should everybody go to find your book? Unfortunately Amazon. I know a lot of people are problem with that, but that's where it is. It wasn't my decision, so you go to Amazon, so you've been sent to diversity training. You can buy my columns at spectatorworld dot com or all Things Me on my website chabickmore dot com. Chadwick, you're a good man. We'll talk to you again soon. Thanks so much. You're the best. Fuck. Thank you.