Buck’s First Thoughts -Pentagon Orders White Supremacy Crackdown

domestic terrorists, awful violent people, insurrectionists. But when you listen to the actual language they use, it's much broader than that. It's really an attempt to try to smear anyone who is right of center, if they voted for Trump, if they were a part of any of the pro Trump rallies, particularly after the election, they must be evil and our institutions have to be cleansed of this. And cleansing is obviously a term that should put everyone's the hair on

their arms standing up. That's not something that we should be thinking of when we're talking about government bodies, and especially when you're looking at the military. But this is now the plain language of the Democrat Party today. You've got Joe Biden, for example, who's out there talking about white supremacy as an enemy that we must combat. And I would just say, as we look at this, we need to remember that this is a group of people.

When you're talking about actual white supremacists, it's a group of people who are marginalized and maligned all throughout society, including on the right and rightly so. But how often do we go around really worried about flat earthers overtaking the scientific community. I mean, how often do we go around thinking that some fringe group of lunatics are really about to overthrow the United States government, or some radical, violent extremist entity from within is just days away from

trying to launch some kind of a coup. There's a hysteria around this. We should all recognize that, we should see it for what it is. And it's very concerning to me because I've been sounding the alarm about the expansion of the term white supremacy to include things that no reasonable rational person would ever say or in fact white supremacist when you use that term in the past, and you can go back to two movies in the nineties, go back to pop culture and the way we would

talk about these things. If you heard of a neo Nazi or a white supremacist. It was going to be a person who was hateful toward other races, who was vicious evil covered in swastika's usually shaved head. You know, there are all these things, your skinheads, There are all these signifiers. And it was like a ghotist. It was a person who had become overtaken by an evil ideology and it was their heinous I mean, they're the bad guys.

We all get that, the same way that any Nazi would be a bad guy, the same way that any communist is a bad guy or ge hottest. Right, these are extreme ideologies that always result in violence, authoritarianism, and destruction if they achieve power, and even if they're out of power, they can be destructive on a smaller scale. So we all understood that the white supremacy was bad. We all get that, you know the same way that we all know murder is bad. This is a very

straightforward thing. But now when you hear the terminology and when you hear the usage of this, all of a sudden, white supremacy is having too many books by white authors in a store. White supremacy, and this is how the left talks about it. I know you hear this. You say, that's crazy. White supremacy. Is somebody advocating against affirmative action in college admissions and pointing to how it discriminates against

Asian Americans more than anyone else in the process. White supremacy. Right, Why should we shut down a gifted and talented schools or schools for the gifted more generally that overprivileged the Asian American community. Well, it's because of the system of white supremacy we have. This is what people will say. And now we have an entire government that is latching onto this as as the the boogeyman, so to speak.

This is the evil that we are all supposed to be hiding under our beds from, or word is hiding under our bed If you think about the way the boogeyman is usually thought of, this is what we're supposed to be confronting as a society. We're in the middle of a pandemic, a double pandemic of a disease and draconian authoritarian lockdowns from the disease that do not work. If Governor Ron DeSantis says it, I can say it. Censor that social media platforms. I'm on radio. What now,

Governor Ron De Santis is right. I'm right they did not work. These lockdowns were a failure. But let me get back to white supremacy here for a moment. I want to read you this isn't the Military Times, right, which you know obviously focuses on defense issues and United States Arms Services, and it's about Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin. I actually remember I was in Bagdad years ago and I was part of a briefing. He wouldn't remember me.

I was interchangeable with all the other guys walking around dressed like they were on a camping trip. What are you guys doing here? Oh? You're those guys, right, I was one of those in the war zone. But you know, I sat down, I briefed him. I remember thinking that this guy had the kind of command presence among a lot of other senior folks that he probably had a

future in politics. But so I remember General Austin, and now Military Times writing he's now the Secretary of Defense, as you know, and he's called on quote Services to conduct a sixty day standdown on the issue of extremism in the military, prompted by the January sixth attack on the Capitol and subsequent reports of active duty and former service members attending a rally calling to overturn the twenty

twenty election and the riot that ensued. Hold on a second look, look what they This is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. We gotta do a whole standout, we gotta do a hot wash, we gotta do a after action report. We have to do a review of white nationalist or white supremacist extremism in the military. And then they when they go to describe what we're talking about here, it's people who attended a rally to overturn

the twenty twenty election. I know people who were at the rally in DC on January sixth, and they were there because they believe that there was a need for election results, for the argument over election results to be had in the United States Congress, for the presentation of evidence, and they thought that that was within this system and the right thing to do. They really believe that there had been a stolen election. I know many people still

believe that there was a stolen election. That doesn't make them white supremacists, has nothing to do with it. The same way that the Capitol Hill riot wasn't a white supremacist riot. But you see how now they take this action and some of the individuals involved and everybody who's even vaguely ideologically associated with them, including thousands and thousands of people. They estimate eight hundred people storm Capitol Hill.

There were at least one hundred thousand people in DC on that day, So it's about one percent maybe, and I know some people say it was much larger than that. So about one percent of the people gathered actually broke the law and did something wrong. Everybody else what they did. You can disagree with how they view the election, but they are completely within their rights, and I support their right to lawfully protests and have their voices heard in

our nation's capital. This is very straightforward. This is about principle. But look what they did. They're calling here for former service members, quote attending a rally, calling to overturn the twenty twenty election. Attendance at the rally is cause for suspicion. That's all you have to do. If you win, if you engaged in lawful protest, you now if you're a former military, if you're current military, for sure, you are now somebody that maybe can't be trusted you're an insurrectionist.

This is what they say. This is what we're told. And the guidance from Austin is as follows. Quote. It wasn't a it wasn't just a blithe go talk to your people. Of Austin's direction, the service secretaries and Joint chiefs. He was very clear he wants commands to take the necessary time to speak with troops about the scope of this problem and get a sense from them about what

they're seeing at their level. Do you think that some uh, some kind of you know, wimpy left wing bureaucrat type, which they exist everywhere, There are those people, even in the military. H Do you do you think that they're going to see somebody with a MAGA flag over their bunk? You know? Do you think that they're going to see somebody who still so you know, thinks that the GADS didn't flag as a cool design from history and they want to and maybe they get reported. Just give it time,

Just give it time. Um. This is this is really upsetting to see because you can understand why, why this is going to get worse, Why are they doing this white supremacy in the military. Uh, this is all all of a sudden we've discovered this problem because of the January sixth riot. That's what they're saying. This is political. I've never met a white supremacist. I mean I point this out to people I have met the hottest terrorists I have met, you know, people of other extremist ideologies.

And I'm not saying there aren't white supremacists. You always have to you always have to establish these things that every sane person knows. Of course there are white supremacists, There are evil racists. Are they powerful in this country. They're the most and rightly so maligned people in all of American society. I mean, you won't be able to get a job, to rent, or buy a home, to to be on the internet. I mean, you know, you're

you're a target for everybody. You're a white supremacist, an actual white supremacist in the real sense of the term. But that's not what this is about. We've already got that problem is contained and controlled. They're they're losers. They're trying to expand the concept of white supremacy to include people who attend and by I'm reading you from this article, attended the rally on January six didn't break any laws, didn't go to the capitol, but if you attended the

rally rally, you're suspect. You know, this is what authoritarian regimes do. They have to cleanse wrong thing from within major institutions like the like the military, and like the federal bureaucracy. Military Times owned poland Quote has shown that, anecdotally, oh that sounds really official, more than one third of active duty troops and more than half of minority service

members have witnessed signs of white supremacy in their colleagues. Further, survey respondents ranked white nationalism as a bigger national security domestic terror as a bigger national security threat domestic than domestic terrorist groups affiliated with Islam. For instance, events of January six served as a wake up call. It it's amazing to see this. I mean, you're telling me that, let's be very clear, because of this ideology of wokeness,

actually that's out there that sees whites. Of wokeness means the white supremacy is all around us, and it's everywhere, and we have to constantly combat it. They've created this omnipresent white supremacy. As a result of that, you have service members here saying they've quote witnessed signs of white supremacy. Half of minority service members say they've seen that. Really, like, what where? What counts as that? And I really mean that. I'd like to know. Is it who gets promoted and

who doesn't? Is that? Is that the kind of white supremacy we're talking about, because remember how the definitions expanded. Or is it somebody who actually you know, is a member of some kind of white power society and has a swastika tattoo on his knuckles. Which one is it? Because there's a whole lot of difference between those two things. But you see, this is a power This is a power move and the chilling effect on conservatism on the right in general from pretending there's this huge threat of

white supremacy. It's everywhere, It's even in our military. This is a hysterical lie, but it's a very very potent one. If you want to keep people fearful and if you want to make sure that you can get away with whatever mechanisms of control you decide to deploy. This is happening within our own military, and it's happening from a top down, from the Secretary Defense. This is the buck Sexton Show podcast. Follow Buck on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.

You know, I have attended many of these prayer breakfasts over the years, with a nation of war and struggle and strife, a nation of peace and prosperity, a nation, though always in prayer. But we know this time is different. Over four hundred thousand of our fellow Americans have lost their lives to a deadly virus. Millions are out of work. We see long lines for food at food banks that

stretch for miles. We hear the call for racial justice, some four hundred years in the making, and we know the dream, and more importantly, the reality of justice for all, cannot be deferred any longer. We see the exidential threat of climate crisis that poses to our planet and everywhere we turn, with more severe floods, stronger hurricanes, more intense wildfires. We just have to open our eyes. We've just witnessed images that we've never imagined, images that now we'll never forget.

A violent assault the US capital, on our assault on our democracy, on our capitol, a violent attack that threatened lives and took lives. And we know now we must confront and defeat political extremism. White supremacy and domestic terrorism, White supremacy and domestic terrorist. This is Joe Biden on a prayer breakfast. This is the urgent national security threat defeating white supremacy and domestic terrorism. Um, okay, what does that look like? Where is this threat? Just show me where?

Where are all these white supremacists? I asked the question. I never get an answer. Where are they? But there's some some compound of brainless, toothless losers somewhere. Who are you know, thinking that there there's some kind of you know, neo Nazi cult that's going to take over America. Yeah, I mean they're they're disgusting and everyone hates them and

they're ostracized from society. Where are the white supremacists that have infiltrated all the institutions and that are speaking openly about this and that are pushing where Well, it depends, of course, on how you define the term. And increasingly what you see is that it's defined so broadly that it can mean whatever whatever racial justice issue. The left wants to wants to really put a lot of a lot of focus on all of a sud They start using,

you know, the WUS term. They start throwing it around. They start saying, oh, this is we need to dismantle systems of white supremacy. Like what, where? Where is this? What does it even really mean? Think about the term. I mean, it's a very Remember remember what they did with racism. Racism is bad. We all know that racism is immoral, and this is just a this is a

universal truth. Racism is immoral. They started calling everything racism back in the nineties, remember this, And they were there actually because we had comedians then it could make jokes. They would make jokes about how everything was racist. Right. There was in the movie PCU, which is still a great watch if you want to go back and check

it out. But there's a there's a group of of I guess you'd call it woke, you know, woke campus activists, and one of the one of the fellows is African American. He's walking around and he's, you know, his question is why is the chalk white and why is the blackboard black? Right, I mean, this is racism and that that's one of the you know, and he goes, right, you've seen it in the movie. I mean, we used to kind of be aware that people would call things racist. That's actually

not racist, has nothing to do with racism. And over time that accusation, they used it so much for purposes of power right the left, the Democrats used this against any of their perceived political enemies that it started to lose its sting and started to lose its ability to put people in fear. It became just a kind of an absurdity. The accusation without any underlying truth, was just it was a smear, an obvious pathetic smear. So what

they do now they've up, Now they've gone to white supremacy. Oh, let's see, that's even it's even scarier that conjures up. You know, neo nazis doing violence to people based on skin color. We have to fight them right away, and we should. But that's not what they're referring to. They're they're not referring to the character you know in American history X. They're referring to college admissions that don't have

awoke enough philosophy of who gets to go to the school. Well, that seems like quite an important change in terminology, isn't it. You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Make sure you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeart Radio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah, this is a deliberate war against everybody whose views would be considered traditionally American.

And consider they have on the Intelligence Committee somebody who the FBI has told them had a multi year relationship with the Chinese communist spy. Now that's not really a problem, because after all, Communist China is not really a bad country. When you go down the stuff and you begin to realize these people operate in a different universe. What happened, I think was the Trump scared them for the first time.

They saw all of their dreams, all of their hopes disappearing, and their reaction has been one of ferocity, which I find frightening. I mean, I worry for anybody who's openly publicly in favor of traditional America, because you just don't know what the left is going to do. They're gonna attack you, They're gonna make you suffer, They're gonna try to ruin you, try to destroy you. I mean Newt

Gingrich sees it is. It is now clear that there are obvious truths that you you speak at your peril whole range of issues, and the Left doesn't even really bother to make arguments anymore. Their arguments in the past were weak, but they figured if they yelled them enough, and if they control enough institutions, they'd be able to get what they want even if logic, facts, reason and everything else wasn't on their side. That's that's the way that the game used to be played. Now they're just

saying do this because we say so. They're not even really telling you why you should do the thing. And I think that the Left has found in the COVID lockdown, specifically, the perfect vessel for their dream of total societal control.

They also have this with climate change. But climate change, as much as they try to force the urgency of the climate crisis and it's existential, as much as they try to convince everybody of that, well adjusted normal people are like, even if they believe in climate changes, they go, I mean, come on, it's not the world's not gonna end tomorrow. Let's catch our breath here. It's not gonna end in five years. It's not gonna end in fifty And if it ends in five hundred years, how much

do I really care? I mean, that's that's kind of where a lot of people are on this one. How do I even know, who will even know what five hundred years from now is going to be like. But with COVID, because we have had a lot of people, a lot of older people who have died from from this respiratory virus, they were able to get the crisis and the panic and the anxiety at a level where they could begin to remake society. I mean, they could tell you how you can breathe. That's now all a

part of this too. And I've been walking you through because I know what they're gonna do. You know, they have to cover up now we saw something we said, hold on a second. Fauci says two masks are better than one, and then Auster Holmes says, actually, two masks are worse than one, and then Fauci says there's no data to support wearing two masks, And then people say, well,

hold on a second. If two masks isn't better than one, why that makes me think that maybe we got to look at this more and can we even have a discussion about this. So then Fauci has to change it up again to say, well, the CDC may soon tell people two masks are better than one. We gotta get the data, and let me tell you, they're going to come up with some bullcrap anecdotal study about you know, someone says that they were doing two and someone else said one, and it's not going to be an actual

scientific study at all. And then all of a sudden they'll make its way under the CDC website and then the CDC we all have to listen to. Has the CDC saved lot of us? Can I just ask you think about that for a second. Has the CDC saved a lot of lives in the COVID pandemic? I mean, this is there, this is their D Day invasion, right This COVID pandemic is the CDC's moment show us what they're why they're funded, what they're really made of. You

know what they've done. They messed up testing in the earliest days, when it was absolutely essential to figure out what we were really dealing with. They completely botched testing. They've changed the guidance many many times. And ultimately what they've told this is, you know, you should probably block down and just avoid life while this virus is out there as much as you know you can stomach and or as much as other people will make you stomach

and wash your hands and wear a mask. Thanks CDC. Wow, amazing stuff from them. And here's Foucci. Though, as I've been telling you, setting the groundwork, you're gonna you're gonna start to see businesses that say one mask required, two masks preferred. It's gonna happen play four in the meantime, as I often get asked, should you be wearing two masks or one mask? And I say, there's no recommendation. However, there are many people who take the common sense approach.

If you're talking about a physical barrier, and as the CDC recommends, you want at least two layers within the mask as a physical barrier, and you feel maybe more of a physical barrier would be better, there's nothing wrong with people wearing two masks. I often myself wear two masks. Can we make a general recommendation that doesn't have scientific basis yet? No, But when the science comes along and tells us that it is better or not, then you

will see a recommendation being made by the CDC. They're going to manufacture something and they're going to say that the science is settled, and now we know that two masks are better than one and it's not amazing because how have they not known that all along? The mask science is so clear, We're we're figuring this out just now. No, why are we going to the two masking? Why? Why did I know that they would say this? Go back?

You know this, listen to the show? How did I know that they were going to tell us two masks? And then ninety five masks are really what we need to be doing because the policy of mandating people wearing masks in certain situations didn't stop the damn virus. It didn't. And I know people say, oh, but what about you know when you breathe through it everything, and go okay, Well people can't wear it all the time, and so there's a lot of spread that's going on all the

time anyway. And if you get the virus on Wednesday but didn't get it on Tuesday, and that plays out across the whole country, what difference does it really make? But you know, they people, people are incapable of actually thinking this through for themselves. And going back to my initial premise here about about traditional values being able to speak about these things, it is essential that we actually

have a public debate about masks. I would I would love give me any blue check MD PhD. Oh, I'm doctor so and so, and I go on I go on MSNBC, and I know love to have a debate.

And I'm just some guy, just some guy who sits around as a radio show, writes some stuff, you know, used to work for the government, used to be a little government stooge, And uh yeah, I would love to have the debate with them because I could just use reason and logic and annihilate the stupid crap that they say, like it's all it's all so obvious that we should all be worrying about. It was so obvious that the person is now the biggest mask advocate twelve months ago

was saying, come on, it doesn't really do anything. That's without She was saying, we all know it. Now, what exactly is different? They'll say, oh, we didn't know about this. No, no, no, no, no, that's all just blah blah blah blah blah. That's all nonsense. But they won't deal with the reality here, which is that you had a panic, and you had people in

patent positions of power, and you had governed authorities. The people were looking to to save them, and they had to tell you something, and they had to tell you something that even if it didn't stop it, then the answer would be, well, you didn't do enough of the thing I told you. It's your fault. That's where we are. And so I believe that dissent on a matter, on a matter of national importance health policy like this, that is a traditional American value. We should be able to

have this conversation. We can't. We can't. Shouldn't shouldn't I be scared? Shouldn't I be concerned about the prospect of

being exposed on this issue? Yeah, have one of those blue check doctors, you know, have a debate, go on TV live and it'd be meek be Alex Barnson, be any number of people to look at this issue critically and explain to me how the science tells you that it's essential that you have that mask pulled up all the time on an airplane with one hundred and fifty people on it, sitting side by side, which is what we do now. Remember how we're going to have a

separation that all fell apart. Now we just airlines need to make money. So you sit side by side and then people sit there and I'd say for at least half the flight are breathing in open air with their mask down because they're drinking, they're eating, they're doing other things. You know, people have the mask fall down below their nose. The nose is actually a major area for the spread of the for the expulsion of the virus. So yeah, explained the signs to me of how that's all. But

it limits it, It limits it. I mean how much how much? If you know, if you're on a plane for four hours and everyone's breathing, the breathing the air, you know, and open how much better is it with the mask on for thirty percent? Then with the rest? I mean, you get infected, you're infected. It doesn't matter how much exposure you had. It doesn't matter, you know, how long the exposure was. You're infected. You're infected. But they don't really think about it, Jo, We can't even

have a normal conversation about that. We can't have normal conversation with the left about males playing female sport. The ACO you put out a statement yesterday that said there's no advantage of men over women in sports, no advantage, and then this is shown because there are women who

can still compete against some of the men. How many videos do we have to see of some like six foot four guy who weighs two hundred and thirty pounds who's playing women's field hockey and as all of a sudden, the national champion and like the best in the world. Before we go, oh, I think I think there's an advantage.

I think there's an advantage. Every guy listening to this knows if you if you were a a mediocre high school male athlete, you know, a mediocre one, which is how at best I think how it described my own athletic exploits as you would have been a probably a two or three sport All American at in NCAA women's sports. This is the truth. I mean, if you want to want an example of this, you I mean, you have

to have a certain level of proficiency. But the like men fourteen year old national soccer team beat the best female professional soccer teams in the world. They're fourteen and beating the best women of the world. I mean, is there's no debate about this. Ah, but you see that statements even more true than I meant it to be. They don't allow you to have the debate about this

because the facts are not in debate. It's really a question of power, and they have the power to silence you and make you believe things and say things that are not true. You're in the freedom hunt. Thanks for listening to The Buck Sexton Show podcast. Get the latest

from Buck at buck sexton dot com. The job of a leader is to take on that, to take on the grief in order to save people's jobs, to get kids back in school, and really to ultimately save a lot of lives, because I think one the virus responds is more effective when it's targeted at the vulnerable population, which we did do aggressively. But I also think we've

saved the livelihoods of so many people. I think you'll have less suicide desks, less drug abuse desks, less deaths of despair in Florida because we were open, and I think a lot of the lockdowners lost sight of that. We are less than the national average for per capita COVID mortality. Twenty five states are higher than us, and yet as you said, our unemployment rate is much less

than the national average. We have kids in school, and in December we had three hundred and thirty million dollars more in revenue than was projected because people are coming here and they understand that Florida's opened in a place where they can pursue their dreams. Rohn descantists the only political hero of the entire COVID pandemic, really, the only person who has been getting it done despite all the critics, despite all the pressure. And I know I talk about

him a lot now. It's like it sounds like I'm a member of the Rohn descent and maybe the captain of the RHND descentists fan club these days. But look, I don't know Ron, never met him, never talked to him. It's not about anything other than results. And you look at the results of his state. Maybe we could have had many other places with much better results if we were allowed to have the conversation. But to my earlier point, we're not even We're not even given the freedom to

make our case anymore. I mean, what social media companies have done about lockdowns and mask wearing is disgusting. They're a bunch of little, petty moron totalitarians. And remember it's not the people who, you know, the people that are all about this. They're not the ones that are you know that that that that founded the company. Usually they're not the ones that are coming up with really complicated algorithms.

You know, they're outsourcing a lot of that stuff to other people or people on H one b V's is the little, the little totalitarians that work in these social media companies. You know, they're they're they are working in like the government relations office, they're working in the in PR and marketing, in sales and you know, the soft sciences parts of these companies. They're the ones that are yeah, you know it's the it's the English Lit majors who

work at book and Google doing whatever they do. They're they're the ones that want you to be shut up. They're the ones that want you to be unable to actually have a conversation. So remember that and and that there are real they are real downsides this. I mean, you know, today you had the mayor of Chicago, Lori Lightfoot, who was basically pleading with the teachers' unions like you you're being unreasonable, this is not right. You're making kids suffer.

You're supposed to go back to school. Now, think of all the people in Chicago who are going and doing their jobs. They're exposed to COVID. They they have, you know, family members who are who are older and at risk, or maybe they themselves are older and at risk, but you know they're still living life. There's no risk free society, and a society that promises you that it's risk free is a nightmare. It is by definition totalitarian. It erases

all freedom. If it's going to make you truly free, it will make all of your choice is for you. There are a lot of people and I think it's just deep in their brains that's what they want, that's what they prefer. They would rather be told what to do all the time. They'd rather be told how they

can live their lives. By the way, I mentioned before the debates over men and women's sports, here's brand Paul talking to the Education Secretary nominee, doctor Miguel Cardona about boys playing girls sports in high school play sixteen So you don't have a problem. Then with boys running in the girls, track me, swimming me to name it, you're okay. Then with boys competing with girls respectfully centered, I think I answered the question. I believe schools should offer the

opportunity for students to engage in extracurricular activities. Even if they're a transgender. I think that's their right, all right, but a lot of us think that that's bizarre. You know, I'm not very fair. Yeah, it isn't fair. It isn't. But now it's now the left has gone beyond philosophical fallacy and they want you to to not accept what

is true in the actual physical world. This isn't that they just have bad ideas that are illogical and self contradictory, though that's certainly very true of the left as well. Now it's that guy who is six is sixty three and you know, two hundred and fifty pounds, he's not necessarily going to be stronger than all all the all the females of his same of his same age. Then no,

that there might You know that there's no real advantage there. Well, then why why break up mail and female sports in general? What's the point does anyone on the left we want to try to answer that? Why do we have a men's and women's team, men's and women's teams? What's the point of it? Because you know, it's fine, there's no biological advantage. We all know this is a lie, but they insist that you accept their lie. Why. It's about a lot more than just transgender rights or transgender sports

or anything like that. It's about bend the knee or else, bend the knee on something that you know is a total fallacy. Once you've done at this time, they can get you to do at other times. This is Buck's first thoughts. The news you need to get for your day in forty five minutes. Make sure you subscribe on the iHeart app or wherever you get your podcasts. She stays in leadership. Liz Cheney has beaten back a challenge to her role in the United States Congress on the

GOP side of it. Pretty big win for her in terms of the votes. What really happened here and what is it telling us about the trajectory of the GOP Right now, our friend Matt Schlap is back in the mix. He is the chairman of the American Conservative Union. Mister Schlap, good to have you, great to be with you, getting Buck, So what do you make of this? First of all, just for everyone listening, how did we get here? We're all of a sudden in our Republicans are still trying

to figure out what just happened with this election? And now We've got Biden's inauguration, and now we're going after Liz Cheney. What did she do? Tell everybody? In the eyes of some within her own party, her sins were, well, she voted to impeach President Trump, even though obviously he's not the president anymore, and almost everybody's reading of the Constitution is is that this is an abuse of the Constitution.

I think she was one of ten Republicans in the House to support this, the most politicized impeachment we've ever seen. In almost every impeachment's pretty politicized. So a lot of anger were these Republicans who played into the politics of Nancy Pelosi. And that's really what this was. This really wasn't a question about do you like Trump? Do you not like Trump? Do you like Trump's policies? Do not like Trump's policies? Do you like what happened on January sixth?

Does what happened on January sixth make you offended? As I'm sure it does you and me and you and I talked about it on your show right around that time. It was a terrible thing. But is it really fair to blame Trump for what happened at the Capitol is it really fair to blame his supporters for what happened at the Capitol, Which is now what Joe Biden and the new Secretary of Defense seemed to be saying with their language or somehow, our number one danger as a

country is white supremacy and violence on the right. Of course, they say nothing about the violence on the left with Black Lives Matter and Antifa, and the fact that for a year our cities were burned to the ground, and churches were burned, and statues were torn down, and statues of Jesus were desecrated, and cemeteries were desecraated. They don't mention any of that. We have more violence in this country buck because people feel like they don't have hope

within the system. So people who are into the system, especially the establishment, they should do all they can to make the Americans on both the left and the right feel like their voices heard. Instead, what the establishments doing is the opposite. They're censoring us, they're shutting us down, they're canceling us. That will not have a good result in our politics. Clearly, the people who rushed the Capitol of criminals, but they also felt desperation. We need to

pull back for people feeling desperation. That's why our founders gave us things like the First Amendment were politically you're allowed to express yourself, and that is not being allowed to happen unfortunately right now in America. Were you surprised by the results? I mean, one hundred and forty five for Liz Cheney to stay in her leadership job versus only sixty one in the House. There was a lot of no, I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised, and I

think this is being misreported. You know, I was a Hill staffer for five years. A lot of people in this town have congressional experience. But it was going to take an overwhelming vote to push Liz Cheney out of leadership.

This wasn't so much about taking it out of leadership as it was sending a message that when you're in leadership, there are just certain things you do for the cause, and if you're such an independent thinker that you can't do the right thing for the party, then you should never getting leadership because part of being a leadership is sometimes you got to take votes that you disagree with because you're in a leadership position. Just like all leadership positions.

We have an organizations across the country. There's there's a cost to being a leader, and she was unwilling to pay that cost because of her animosity for President Trump. And so what's happened in the past when Republican leaders got into this much trouble, they just stepped down. Remember knew Gingridge stepped down from being Speaker when he got himself really all kind of turned around on some ethics questions,

and she was unwilling to do that. So I admire her moxy for sticking in there, but I don't think it changed the political changes the political dynamic, which is she's got a big problem within the Republican conference because they don't view her as understanding that we shouldn't play into the politics of Pelosi and Schumer, even when we're going to get a bad editorial in the New York Times, even when we have animosity or differences with a Republican

who might be the target. So Marjorie Taylor Green, she's she's the latest target of the Democrats. It really doesn't have to do with them being offended over her, which I would say very offensive social media postings from previous you know, before she was elected to serve in Congress. By the way, the voters in Georgia put her in Congress, and the voters get to decide these questions, not Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats. But you know, she's just the

latest victim of what this cancel culture. They want to cancel her before she's ever even really been allowed to show what her true feelings are as a congresswoman, how she wants to vote. If they if they can attack her and persecute her, it'll just name the next Republican they're going to go after. Basically, what they're trying to do is make being a Republican illegal, and Republicans who play along with that should just go away because they

don't know what's going on in the country. We're speaking of, Matt, I'm sorry speaking to Matt schlap he's the chairman of the American Conservative Union, and Matt Gates was leading the effort to get rid of Liz Cheney. Do you think that they're going to let bygones be by guns now, Matt, or is there still this struggle that we should expect to play out within GOP congressional ranks for who's really the future of the GOP in terms of policy, but

also in terms of leadership. Well, we have Joe Biden saying we need to unify the country. Well he's pursuing in his party, is pursuing impeachment, saying that we have to go after all these white nationalists, which sounds strangely like he just wants to go after conservatives and MAGA people. It really doesn't have much to do with race at all. And now you have these strange calls for unity within the Republican ranks. To me, I'm not very interested in unity.

I'm interested in having a civil debate on what we should agree with and what we shouldn't agree with. I don't want just like a vanilla Republican party that has no disagreements. I'm plenty fine with lots of Republican disagreements. I just want to make sure that they remember that the political enemy are the socialists, and this is the socialism that the Democrats have grabbed up. Have you embraced? So this question about Liz Cheney and her future, I

think is a very open question. And if she believes that the right thing to do is kind of divorce MAGA from this coalition as I call it, not so much a Republican Party as it is a coalition. The Conservatives are the most important part of that coalition. If she thinks it's important to divorce Maga from that coalition, I will fight her on that. Politically, I like and respect her, We've been friends a long time. I disagree

with her impeachment vote. I disagree with this idea that somehow Trump has been a cancer on the Republican Party. I think he's added millions of new voters. I've obviously been a strong supporter of his. I will continue to be for him and for his policies. And I think we all had that debate, and so it becomes a little public at time. That's okay. We're big boys and girls, and we're going to have it at Seapack anyway, So buckle up. So tell me this. Let's look at the

other side for a second. Jack Posovic over One America News got this one going. He pointed out that AOC who was really made a spectacle of herself recently, Alexandria Ocazio, Alexandra Occazio Cortez. She she was claiming that Ted Cruze almost had her killed. I mean, I saw that tweet as if you know, Ted Cruz was ordering a hitman to find her. She's been doing, you know, TEARI eyed videos from home about how she was terrified she was

going to die. And now Jack looked at a and you know Capitol Hill very well, she looked at a map and she was what is it about an eight eight to ten minute walk from the actual Capitol U when when all this happened, What do you make of this? Well, they're trying to make it sound like it was almost an attack on the on the NATS stadium, which is not too far away from the Cannon House office building.

Look what happened at the Capitol's terrible. Can't be excused, and I can understand why it was shocking to members of Congress. But this is where the language is purposely politicized. Donald Trump didn't call for any violence that day. He called to the opposite. Anybody who accuses the president of calling for violence should show the words in the speech that he uttered that called for violence. Of course, the

opposite is in the speech. And if you're going to accuse Ted Cruse of trying to murder, you show the words that Ted Cruz uttered to call for that violence. Of course those words don't exist. I often wonder with these socialists, do they think that, like Buck, you and I communicate both with our mouths and we have like some secret like you know, telepathy, that we're speaking, you know, encouraging people. They love to call it a dog whistle, something people can't hear, but like if you have, if

you have the right kind of hearing, you can hear it. Somehow, Josh Holly and Ted Cruise and Donald Trump were speaking telepathically to their supporters to do bad things. This Manchurian Canada kind of nonsense. It just has to stop. It should be called out. When we used to have pre unfair journalism in this country, they would have told a politician that you can't make charges that you can't substantiate

with actual words. So and I think it's great what Jack has done on this reporting because it doesn't excuse the violence and the crimes that occurred at the Capitol, but it does indict those who are trying to use that those crimes in a way to seem like the Republican Party or Trump supporters or conservatives, or trying to harm them physically. Of course, the opposite is true. My argument would be no matter. Whenever you have a big rally somewhere, my guesses you can find fifteen to thirty

lugheads and all those rallies. The difference between MAGA rallies and what we saw with a tef them Black Lives Matter. And I went into some of those crowds with Black Lives Matter, that was overcome with people who meant to do violence, who meant to desecrate, who meant to do physical harm to all these important monuments and buildings. That was the whole reason to have those riots, where by the way, not one cop died, and I really mourned the death of this Capitol Hill cop. I consider him hero.

I think with the memorial they had from him on Capitol Hill was totally appropriate. I only wish we could have had an equal memorial for all the other cops who have lost their life over the course of last eighteen months with this left wing violence. You know, just because you die trying to save Nancy Pelosi's life doesn't make that death more of a tragedy than if you tried to bring order around the White House or in chop or in Portland, or in Chicago or in New

York city. The death of these law enforcement officers is really a stain on our history, and we ought to have more public memorials and accommodations for those law enforcement officials who have been killed by this left wing violence. All the violence is terrible, it's criminal, and we ought to take the lessons from why it's occurring. And I

definitely think that there. I can tell you about conservatives, they feel a little desperate when their votes are taken away from them, and when their votes are taken away from them, excuse me when there and when their voice is taken away from them, when literally they can't speak on social media as they have come to expect to be able to speak. Speaking of Match Lap, chairman of the American Conservative Union, and Seepack Matt, which you are the man at Sepack. That's going to be happening in

just a few weeks. I'm coming down there to see you and all the rest of the fine folks the conservative movement. What give us the message? And I'm hoping some people listening to this will be able to join us down in Orlando. It's gonna be nice weather, a lot of conservative It's going to be a good time.

But what is going to be the overriding message when you're right now gathering together a lot of conservatives, both people who are just supportive of the movement and people who are at the forefront, people that have platforms and that are trying to spread the message. A lot of folks out there are feeling a little dejected right now given what's going on in this election, and also the first moves of the Biden presidency are not the least

bit confidence inspiring for anybody who lives in reality. I think what is the message going to be then from speck Well, Our theme is America uncanceled. They try to cancel our votes, our values, and now our voices, and so we will spend a lot of time talking about what happened around the election and the reforms that are needed to It's a very simple prospect that you should be a legal voter to be able to vote in a democracy, very basic principle. We violated that, We sullied it,

and that's got to stop. The second thing is this idea of how our political voices are being silenced left and right, both within the corporate culture of most of our publicly traded corporations, on almost every media outlet. Obviously, in social media, people are losing their jobs because they fly the wrong flag, and that's simply not consistent with American values. So we'll be talking about and then finally

the most important thing. Buck. You can understand this because you spend a lot of time talking about these things. The new embrace of socialism by one of our two major parties has basically meant our Bill of Rights as a stop watch on its life, or at least a clock on its life. They don't believe in these in the Bill of Rights, if you walk through each one. They clearly don't believe in the First Amendment because they think that it's fine to have illegal votes and they

think it's fine to cancel people's political speech. So the First Amendment, and we all know about religious freedom, that's you know, that's been under attack for a decade now. They don't believe in the Second Amendment. Obviously, Joe Biden ran on gun confiscation saying that you're not kind of up to your gun rights, so we'll just take your guns away from you. And if you walk through all of these amendments, they basically don't believe in the Amendment.

Now they believe in a free press, supposedly, even though that free press doesn't seem to want to take our side into account, which doesn't make it free at all, which makes a propaganda. But I guess you could try to find a way to get that into the latter part of the First Amendment. But so here or there they don't have disagreements, but ninety they don't agree with the Bill of Rights back to me is a very dangerous thing in our country that we've ever been here before.

We had one of our two major parties literally rejecting the underpinnings of the Constitution. They used to use euphemisms. They'd say, oh, it's a living, breathing document. We cherish this document, you know, we just want to see some changes to it now that they don't support any amendas. Isn't that Iran liberals don't support any amends or constitution. We do as conservatives because we know that's how you're

supposed to change the constitution. That's the way our founders that that was the process they left in the constitution because they knew one day we'd make slavery illegal. They kept that in there on purpose. Women got economic rights, they got the boat. This is how that was done. But they don't believe in in amendments because they just go to the court where they go to a regulator

and by FIAT, they just change the world. Matt, where can people go if they if they want to either partake in person or online to join us at seapack in a few weeks. You're a better pitchman than I am. Yeah, go to Conservative dot org. There's a few tickets left. We will sell out. We're making announcements every day and we'd love to have you down there. Match Lap of the American Conservatives Union, Matt, I always appreciate it, see

you down in sunny Florida. Thank you back, Thanks for coming to see you back.