This is Buck's first thoughts. The news you need to get for your day in forty five minutes. Make sure you subscribe on the iHeart Act or wherever you get your podcasts. Is anybody surprised that Kamala Harris isn't doing a great job fixing our border by vegan Central America? That it's a debacle? Pretty much? Is this a shock to anyone? What has ever shown people who are who are fixed or who are fixing their attention on results
and ability? What has ever shown them any inclination whatsoever of Kamala Harris to get the job done, To just be Harris and have people push her along and vote for her and elevate her. Yeah, sure she can do that, But to actually get results that shows a skill set that shows inability beyond playing the system. This shouldn't be surprising at all. Right, it's not surprising. We'll get more
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I will go again. But when I'm in Guatemala dealing with root causes, I think we should have a conversation about what's going on in Guatemala. What a disaster Kamala Harris is here. What a disaster. Everyone knows it, everyone sees it, and they're being reminded of what was so apparent when she wanted to be the next president instead of vice president, an appointed position president of the United States. With even Democrat voters, this isn't a Republican thing. Democrat
voters were like, I don't like her. Seems very staged, very fake, obviously, so and here she is acting like everybody else is crazy. She's the borders are who will not go to the US Mexico border, And she's laughing whenever she's whenever she's challenged on this. It's pretty easy. Why not just say, you know what, I'll go to the border tomorrow. Stop asking me this question. I'll go
to the border tomorrow because she won't go. She won't go because there will be a press corps that travels with her and they will have to cover the disaster and she will be photographed there. We all understand what's going on here. This is not actually that complicated, but she keeps making it worse because her answers are absurd. It's nonsensical. I mean, here she is telling everybody with no trace of irony here with zero self awareness. Vice
President Harris, who thinks she's soon to be president. Harris is out there telling people listen to this play too. I also believe that if you want to fix a problem, you have to go to where the problem exists. If you want to address the needs of a people, you must meet those people. You must spend time with those people, because the only way we can actually fix the problem is to understand the problem. The problem is at our border.
But she doesn't seem to understand, maybe because she refuses to go Here's she just telling you, if you want to fix it, you have to go to where it is, exactly Kamala, and you refuse to do that, and then you lecture us as though you are doing that, which makes everyone think, is she just obduse? Is there some kind of a disconnect. It's as though she does not understand what is so obvious to everybody else. But she's
upsetting pretty much all sides on this border trip. I'm sorry on this immigration Central America talk about the US border without going their trip, and some of them are upset that she's even willing to say with The Democrats have to pretend they believe which is that people shouldn't come into the country illegally. So, I mean, here, here's a here's a left wing media host on the View,
the dumbest talk show on television, Play seven. But I was a little surprised at the clumsiness of her language because she said, you know, don't come, don't come, and she was, I think, referring to illegal passage into the United States as opposed to seeking legal asylum, which is what Alexandrio Cassio Cortes is talking about. And of course this country was founded on immigration, founded on people coming
here legally and seeking asylum. But using those terms, so those words don't come, don't come, I think is pretty inflammatory, and I think that's why she's getting so much pushback because because of those words. I mean, the Supreme Court just ruled this week that people that come here illegally and stay here for twenty years still can't apply for a green cart because of the circumstances by which they came to this country. And so, of course you shouldn't
come here illegally. But our vice president could have done I think a better job in terms of her language. Yeah, this is a legal analyst on the View Sonny Houston, who seems to not understand immigration law. She notes at the end that yes, you cannot apply for legal status in this country if you came here illegally, even twenty years ago. We know a lot of people that didn't come twenty years ago. They came, you know now, a
year ago, two months ago now. But the part that keeps getting left out and AOC and the other far left propagandists don't want you to pay any attention to is that the people showing up now at the border who are being apprehended, they are all breaking the law. They are doing what is the equivalent of trespassing on US sovereign territory over an international border. They refuse to
go through the ports of entry. They don't want to have to wait, so they just show up and they walk, they literally walk into America and say here I am, give me asylum. And they're not actually people that overwhelmingly are worthy of asylum. This is just the reality. I want to be an economic migrant, I want to have better opportunities for jobs is not an asylum claim. Lying to the border patrol, by the way, is also a crime.
So people who say I am fleeing political violence when really they're actually looking for a better job or they want to live with other family members who are already in the US are also breaking the law. This is lawlessness, and Democrats don't get to have it both ways. They don't get to have the state drag people, you know, by the scruff of the neck out of church for
failing to dumble mask like a bunch of morons. The fact that we have to do that, the fact they ever told this that isn't an embarrassing They should be ashamed of themselves. Fauci, that little fascist the worst. But they want the state to drag you out for that because it's the law. It's really an executive order, but it's the law. And on this issue, though, all of a sudden, immigration laws just don't count. Doesn't really matter anymore.
And keep in mind, we have a de facto open border, we have coyotes, the cartel's making huge sums of money over this. It's just an unsustainably lawless, reckless situation. And AOC the radical left of the Democrat Party, which is increasingly calling all the shots, is out there complaining that the Biden policies aren't humane enough. Play five. Well, I think the issue here, and first of all, you know, I think this is not just about the Vice president.
This is about the Biden Administration's immigration policy writ large is not working. It's wrong, and it's inhumane. Why what is inhumane about it? If AOC wants every Latin American, or for that matter, developing country all over the world migrant just be able to come to America, she should be honest about that and say that she wants full on open borders and a dissolution of the current legal
immigration system that America has. That's the only honest position that she could have, because otherwise she's just another person who's complaining about a system that is failing, largely because Democrats refuse to enforce the laws that are on the books, and they keep saying it's inhumane. I just want to know, do you want to pay for every person from all over the world who wants to come to America in
whatever numbers they want to come to America? Do you want to be responsible for their health care, for their education, for the massive expansion of the welfare state that we all know is going to happen, is already happening as a result of a huge influx of illegal immigrants into the country. Yes, illegal immigrants are more likely to need state assistance, more likely to show up in an emergency
room demanding free healthcare, free health services. You know, there's just so much dishonesty around this issue, and it's awful. And then there's the other part of this too, which is the so that the is the we're not humane enough because you know, taking two million illegal immigrants into America this year roughly, that's what the numbers are looking like. You know, that's we're not nice enough as a people. A million legal immigrants, two million illegal immigrants. Why not
twenty Ask AOC, ask a Democrat? Why not just let anyone who wants to come into the country come into the country. And they don't have an answer for you. They'll say something like, well, you know, we have a system and we have laws. No, but you don't want the laws to be enforced. You oppose at every stage Democrats, those laws to actually be implemented. So that's just dishonest. You're just lying about what you really want here, which
is what they do all the time. Yes, AOC calls him inhumane, and everyone seeing that the Biden administration doesn't have any answers on immigration that it's willing to say out loud, and that Kamala Harris is just flailing on this trip and everyone seeing this is the person the Democrats really want to make the next president of the United States. Please, when you've lost CNN and you're Kamala Harris, you know things are going badly. This is a CNN piece.
Unnamed White House insiders were left perplexed by the performance of Vice President Kamala Harris on a recent trip to Guatemala and Mexico to address the root causes of immigration problems at the US southern border. Early in the administration, Joe Biden assigned Harris the unenviable task. Oh yes, because that's notice how they make it sound like it's not Harris's fault. It's an unenviable task of ostensibly overseeing the
hot button political issue. Harris's team subsequently made clear her focus would be on these systemic issues at play, focusing on the Northern Triangle countries of Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador from which a majority of border migrants come. Harris has been a lightning rod for criticism. Yeah, you don't say, okay, anyway, I just even the White House is like, my gosh, she's making a mess of this thing. But notice that
there's a trend here. It's important you see this. The left has a ideological framework that applies to many issues, and in this case, what you're seeing is this system, the systemic causes component coming to the forefront all over again. Right. It's just like what you see with the law enforcement crisis across the country, or the lack of law enforcement because we're undermining cops. We're undermining our law enforcement officers,
and so you have spiking murder rates. Instead of dealing with the problem directly, more cops on the streets, more prosecution of violent criminals, lock up violent criminals, longer, back up our cops when they have to defend themselves and others. Instead of going right to it, they want to take some roundabout politically expedient route. Oh, let's hire more social workers. Let's defund the police, which actually caused the problem. I mean, look at it. You can line these two issues up.
You can line up the border, and you can line up defund the police and the crime surge in this country, and you see a tremendous commonality here. It's very obvious, right, how does it all start. Biden administration comes in. Biden administration comes in, gets rid of remade in Mexico, speaks very differently about the border, doesn't want to do interior
enforcement everybody. It's wide open, okay. Biden administration in twenty twenty is supportive in the campaign of the BLM movement, then comes into office, all the focuses on the January sixth insurrection and not on the riots that occurred then and the violence that's occurring now because of the undermining
of cops. So Biden's worldview. The Democrat Party essentially because Biden just does what his handlers say, is responsible for the creation of a problem, right, making something substantially worse, and then instead of addressing it in the obvious way in the border, securing the border, turning people away, deporting those immediately who do not show up for their hearings, deporting those immediately who are on the list to be deported, and turning away people that have false asylum claims that
are obviously false, raising the credible fear standard to a point where it actually means something. Instead of doing any of that, they want to deal with the root cause of migration in Central America, which on it in a best case, is gonna maybe help the problem a little bit in a number of years if they put a lot of resources in time into it. Doesn't that sound just like their approach to law enforcement and defund the
police adding social workers. You've got shootings and murders spiking fifty percent, sixty percent, seventy percent in cities across the country year over year. And instead of saying, let's stop the bad guys from shooting people, let's put more cops on the street, let's back them up, let's deal with the problem, the Democrats want to deal with. Oh, the root sys systematic or systemic causes of this, that's what we have to do. Let's have more social workers, Let's
have you know, more after school programs or what. Okay, I mean, maybe we could even say that some of those things are are reasonable ideas or of the long run, although I think the social workers instead of cops thing is just insane. But anyway, you know, because they're already are social workers. And I got news for you. Social workers don't want to respond to a domestic violence call.
They don't not without a cop there. You know, psychiatric personnel don't want to respond to an emotionally disturbed person call not without a cop there. But you see how they do the same thing. The same fundamental fallacies apply. Democrats have a worldview that is wrong when it comes to cause an effect, that is wrong when it comes to history, that is wrong when it comes to who the good guys are, who the bad guys are, who's
breaking the law, who's supporting the law. And this means that they're just making wrong choices over and over again on the border, a law enforcement on any number of issues, right,
and this is you see what I mean. Though they cause the problem, then they won't address it directly because the indirect approach allows them to pander to their base and have this social justice first approach to something that's really a law enforcement issue in both cases, the border and the murder rate spike in this country, And then when they really want to just push something that's nonsensical,
they go back to the historical the historical framework for something. Okay, well, maybe we want to stop Central Americans from coming into America illegally by the hundreds of thousands a month, but it's really our fault. You see, it's our fault that people are leaving Central America. America's fault, your fault, my fault because of US history in the region. You knew this was coming. Joy and Reid said over on MSNBC the following you got to hear at play six. There
are seven countries in Central America. There's another dozen countries in two sort of territories in South America. We'reking at four hundred and thirty three million people in South America. It's something like what forty four million people in Central America. The United States southern border with Mexico is not the only important issue that matters to the world. Those seven countries have a long history with the United States, much of it troubling. The United States used much of Central
America as essentially a giant plantation. Google the United Fruit Company. We have a long, sordid, torrid history with this region. The history does not begin at the border where people are showing up. That is not the only important thing that matters. There's a whole history that long proceeds people arriving at the border between Mexico and the United States.
I'm glad that she has Google and could do a quick search of the United Fruit Company and the history of n America before she went on air to pretendially knows something about these issues. But I will just say this, we want a secure border. I don't care what the US was doing in Central America in the nineteen eighties. I want a secure border. I don't care what the US was doing when it comes to agricultural policy a century ago. I want to secure border. We've been to
the border. We've been to the border. You haven't been to the border, and I haven't been to Europe as well, So then you do see the cool flexity. Listen, I've been to the border before. I will go again. But when I'm in Guatemala dealing with root causes, I think we should have a conversation about what's going on in Guatemala or so, can you commit right now that you will indeed visit the US Mexico border until you do it soon, Jeremy, let me tell you something, But yes,
I will, and I have before. Yeah, she's really on top of the issue, folks, she really gets it. You know. It's funny too, is that is that the Democrats they can't get on the same sheet of music. About this because while some are pretending, you know, the the Biden administration, because at the national level, they know that fifty one percent of the American people are not down with an open border. They're not and so they have to play
this game. But those Democrats who get to be the far lefties because they either have a congressional district or even a state that's so blue that people are absurd and don't understand cause and effect and don't know anything about what's really happening at the border. You got people like Bernie Sanders running around saying, you know, we should actually make it even easier for people to come into
America illegally. Play eight. You said, the wall is symbolic and it represents so wouldn't it be proper to tear that symbol down in order to achieve that it? Maybe, but you know, it's how much its gonna cost the tearer down? Should you do that tearing down? I don't know. Maybe the answer is yes, that's something that's something you're willing to consider. Yeah, you're willing will tearing down exhibiting fencing between us. But again, if it's going to cost
me billions of dollars to tear it down. Our rather investment maybe and the needs for childcare in this country. But it's something you know, we can look at. It's something we can look at. Why would you look at that? What possible purpose could there be in tearing down a section of border wall that to a man to a person, border patrol will tell you walls fences help make their job easier. I've never heard anybody in border patrol say
anything different. Of all the people I have to talk to you in border patrol, in in you know, customs and Immigration enforcement, never heard anybody say anything different than that. Who's a actual employee and civil servant of those organizations. Maybe you'll hear political people say something different. So why would you tear down some of the wall. Well, because you're trying to play kate the radical left wing open borders base. That's why. That's the only reason why. There's
no other reason that you could give. And if you're somebody who really believes that we shouldn't we shouldn't be able to have sovereignty, why is America? I always want to ask these internationalist libs Marxists this question. Why is it that America is the only country in the world that anybody wants to go to that is not allowed to determine who comes and who goes. Try to just show up sometime in a country that requires a visa for a US entry and say no, but I really
want to be here. I think I have a better chance at a job here. I want to be here. Try to do that, You're going to be put on a plane, sent back home and probably detained for many hours, maybe a day or two in uncomfortable additions, and told you know you're not coming in. That's what's going to happen. Are all those countries racist? Is it always racism that results in people not wanting an open border because the rest of the world is allowed to have borders. Somehow
America is not allowed to have borders. Why is that interesting, isn't it? And as we all know, if it were about safety, there are plenty of places in Mexico where Central Americans would have much eat and much easier time linguistically and culturally and are perfectly safe. There are a lot of parts of Mexico, plenty of states in Mexico that people have low crime rates, and it's not you know, I know there are bad parts of Mexicans too. They're
bad parts of the US. Maybe you go go check out what it's like these days in some parts of Baltimore or the South side of Chicago, or there are parts of the US with really high crime rates too. But this is not about what's true, folks, This is not about what's really going on. This is about feelings. You see, Democrats are always motivated by how they feel on these issues and how it makes them feel about themselves. That's the most important thing. That's why the virtue signaling
impulse is so powerful among the Libs. That's why they
believe so strongly in all of this. AOC is among the She's really it's like, it's like idiot leftists who just graduated college created a pseudo Marxist member of Congress and like, you know, on a computer and then built one you know, like like like like they they created the perfect distillation of faculty lounge left wing idiocy and made it made an actual person based upon those upon those parameters, you get a see and here she is telling everybody because again part of this is there's a
liberal guilt, like we have to take in as many people from the third world as possible. Into America illegally. We're already were already taken refugees, We're already taken a million league immigrants. We have to just make it so that whoever wants to show up and can get here on foot can come into the country because we owe it to them. We the American people, owe it to them.
And remember, you know your tax dollars will go to support these individuals, and those taxes are taken from you by force by the state, and that AOC and the rest of Democrats ultimately will support men with guns showing up to your home to drag you away and lock you in a cell if you refuse to pay those taxes to support the massive welfare state and the monetary policies necessary for the Biden administration to do what it wants with the incredible spending increases that we're seeing. So
you're not given a choice in any of them. And they will support men with guns locking you up if because the law is the law. Right, the laws the law, say the authoritarian Democrats until they don't like the law, and then you know, when it's immigration time at come on, laws don't count. And we say that's hypocritical, and they say exactly, this is about power. We don't care that it's hypocritical. Don't you see that It doesn't sting them, It doesn't upset them. They don't have any principles, so
telling them they're unprincipled has no effect. So that's how you get where we are right now. And it's also why there's so much virtue signaling among the left when it comes to the immigration issue, AOC citing how we owe it to these migrants crossing into America illegally because America has done so much bad climate change stuff that the climate change has made it bad in Central America, and so that's why they're fleeing. So it's really our fault.
Plate ten. This is also climate policy that is impacting the global South disproportionately. Even though these farmers and these folks in Central and South America contributed to climate change the least in terms of their carbon emissions, they are experiencing the ravages the most right now and first, and so US climate policy has contributed to this. US foreign policy, US economic and trade policy has helped contribute to conditions that that people are fleeing just not true. I mean
and want to say it's not true. It's it's absurd. Central America is getting the worst of the climate change brunch right now. Really, this is an argument that a person is making who expects to be treated like she knows anything and has and it has even a baseline of necessary intelligence to wax philosophical on these issues. Really, apparently it's our climate policy that's making people leave from
Central America. I just want to know. Was it our climate policy that was making things so rough in Central America in the nineteen eighties? Oh? No, that would be our foreign policy. Somehow, It's always our fault, right, And it's not the communists. It's not the Sandinista's fault. What happened the nineteen eight It's not the Soviet Union's fault. No, No, it's all our fault. It's amazing how this sell this constant desire for self purification through showy victimhood. Oh we
were so bad, Look what America did. I'm not one of those bad people, though, is central to the Democrat ethos. It's just pathetic afterwhile, isn't it. The amount of impact you and I have had on Central America's climate is zero. I don't want to hear about it. It's absurd. This is crazy person talk. Oh, it's what AOC is talking about. Though, Yes, we have to look at root causes, but there's a crisis at the border right now today. You have to address that today while you look at the root causes
down the road. I think also part of leading is optics and showing that and showing what you care about and what your goals are and going into the border would have made a big difference. This has been a discussion for weeks. I'm not sure why it hasn't happened. It's a lot of easier you've said, been done, but
perhaps should have been a priority. Perhaps, yeah, yeah, when you've lost Mikah, when people who will say anything on TV as long as NBC Universal keeps sending those big paychecks to them, when you have got somebody will say anything on TV and knows that her job is to just constantly pump up and praise Biden, Harris, all of them, and she's saying, yeah, maybe maybe it should have been a priority. I also think it's funny too easier said
than done. No, it's actually really easy. As the vice president, this is US soil. If everybody was saying, if there was a huge crisis. You know, in in Topeka, Kansas. We're all worried about Topeka. Don't you think that the vice president would be expected to go there. No, we're not even asking her to go to a foreign country. When we say the border, it just means go down to a part of America that is close to another country. This is not hard. So I think it's funny, and
she goes, oh, it's easier said than done. No, it's actually easier done than said. For Kamala Harris, you just go, just go. It's not not challenging at all. But I'm sorry, I just, oh, my gosh, it's so pathetic. This administration
is such a joke, such a joke. You know, there were things about the Trump administration stylistically and in terms of you know that my big beef, and I don't want to be a broken record on this, My big beef was a lot of the personnel decisions, and notably the my kids are going to be my top advisor's decision. That was a huge mistake from the very beginning, totally wrong, totally gross, and people just didn't want to say. I said it on this show, and I got a lot
of heat for it from folks. But I was right, and you know I was right. And if you think I'm If you think I wasn't right, go ask anybody who worked in this White House what it meant to have Jared Kushner have full determination on who got access to the President of the United States and who did. Not a liberal, folks, a liberal, would you want Joe Biden or Kamala Harris to basically be the de facto
chief of staff under the Biden under a Trump administration? No, So I was telling the truth and I wanted to do something about it. But so much easier for people in the media just run around maga. Yeah, you know conservative media. No what, no one everybody wanted to cheer for the good stuff. Nobody wanted to be the coach at halftime that's said, I want this team to win. Therefore, here's what Trump needs to do. People didn't want to
hear it, and we lost this last election. Ah, you can tell me, oh, bak, you know they cheated or they who's the president now? Right? I still focus in on results first and foremost. We deal with reality. Friends. We're not liberals. We don't create an alternate universe. We
deal with reality. Joe Biden is the president. There were things that could have been done differently that would have changed that, including fighting against the way that the Democrats were changing elections using the pandemic as an excuse to change elections in the actual height of the election season. But there were aspects of the Trump administration that, as
you know, I felt the need to sometimes criticize. Overall, I think the agenda was very powerful, and I think that's what we're going to return to, hopefully with a I believe a descentist twenty twenty four run with Trump's backing, and that's that's a winning a winning ticket, I believe. But we knew with Trump that there were some aspects of this that we're gonna be. You know, it's gonna be a little bit of a show. You know, it's gonna be a little rough around the edges sometimes. It
was also gonna be very amusing, and it was. And the way that he took it to the media was incredible. And finally people really understand that journalism is a fraud in this country. As a profession. It doesn't really exist. There are some people who can do journalism, but it's not it's not a profession anymore. It does not if you believe the journalism is people actually speaking without political
impetus and pushing agendas. But what's funny to me is that this Biden administration, given what we were promised and now what we're seeing, it's pretty hilarious, isn't it. They didn't say, yeah, Biden's gonna be too old and we're not really gonna hear that much from him, but you know it's it's gonna be uh, he's gonna be a that relies on the advisor. No, we were told that Biden and Harris, we're gonna do a great job. Biden and Harris, We're going to restore our democracy, our faith
in government. They're gonna get all these amazing things done. They're gonna do all this great stuff. Like what I mean the people that are saying, look at the vaccines. Uh yeah, the operation warp speed of the Trump administration got a record time vaccine program done, and then the Biden administration inherited a vaccine distribution plan and just played out the plan. Yeah. I'm sure they made some adjustments anybody would have, but that's it. I mean, this is
like saying, oh, Biden, you know, funded the military. Yeah, okay, we kind of expect that. You know, what's the what's the difficult decision that's been made here? What is the choice that that Biden Harris has made that has resulted in a better America for a vast majority of the people who live here. They don't have it even you're starting to hear that the Democrats are getting frustrated because
they can't get what they want. Here's here's a little Chuck Schumer talking about the GOP and negotiations over infrastructure bill play eleven. Well, look, we have to we're proposing we're pursuing a two path proposal. On the one hand, there's bipartisan negotiations and those are continuing the first world between President Biden and Senator Capitau with just Republicans. Those
seem to be running into a brick wall. But a bipartisan group led by Senator Cinema and I think Senator Portman as the lead Republican, are trying to put something together that might be closer to what the President needs and sore. That's good, but that's not going to be the only answer. We all know as a caucus, we will not be able to do all the things that the country needs in a totally bipartisan in a bipartisan way.
And so at the same time, we are pursuing the pursuit of reconciliation, and that is going on at the same time. And it may well be that part of the bill that will pass will be bipartisan and part of it will be through reconciliation. But we're not going to sacrifice the bigness and boldness in this bill. We will just pursue two paths and at some point they will join. Get ready for the partisan steamroller. Friends, whatever they can do, even if they have to abuse the
process to use the process, the Democrats will. Fellow New Yorkers, it's time to move on to unmask ourselves and our kids. That is the piece in the New York Post opinion section from our friend Carol Markowitz, who has been a warrior for the truth during this pandemic the whole time. Carol, great to have you as always, Thank you, Buck, thanks for having me. I gotta tell you the people that are still walking around with masks on this this is now and I mean this, it's an anxiety disorder. Yeah,
this is a mental this is now mental illness. And I know they don't want to believe that because they believe the science, and they believe the science the whole time. But no, no, no, And those of us who were saying all along that anyone who's vaccinated really should have no concern about whether someone else is vaccinated or not, we never should have, like, let this get conceded to the other side as an argument because it's absurd. And
now there's all these problems. I mean, Carol, did you just give us a sense of some of the where are some of the places where? I mean, this is true in New York, but it's true in Los Angeles, it's true in a lot of cities across the country. They're these like remnants of faucism. What's still out there? Yeah, So, you know, people say to me all the time, like why do you care about other people masking? Why? Why do I care that you know eighty percent of my
neighborhood still walking around outside post facts in masks. Well, the reason I care is because it continues to affect me. Last weekend, I took my middle son to a roller skating birthday party and Prospect Park, and the rules make no sense. To pick up your skates, you need to wear a mask. To put on your skates, you can take off your mask, but when you're skating in the spacious rink with very few people in it, you need
to put the mask back on. And we got told twice by the security guard to adjust our mask, even though his own mask was below his nose because it was ninety three degrees outside. And then the kicker of all this is when it's time to have food and cake. It's a really tight area where there's like five birthday parties going on, and everybody's on top of each other and we're all eating and blowing out candles and singing
Happy Birthday. And literally, if you had to design where masking would ever make sense, it would be in that area. But obviously post backs and you know, in June twenty twenty one, we shouldn't be masking anywhere, But if anywhere, it would be there, and there you don't have to mask, so none of it makes any sense. It's completely mind boggling, And so I care. I care that so many people are still masking because it affects me still have these
rules because all these people are still masking. Yeah, there's these these remnants, you know, in my building, for example, where I am in New York City for everybody listening there, I mean I live in a building there are hundreds and hundreds of residents, so just to give you it's it's a very large building with a ton of people coming in and out all the time. And I've basically started the mask insurrection. Yeah, I will not tell everybody. Yes, I'm the one who has pulled down the mask signs
in the gym. I'm the one who never wears a mask in the gym. And now others are finally joining along. They come in, they see me because they don't want to wear a mask. No one wants to wear a mask when they work out. And these are some of these guys. I mean they're actually like and girls. They're like really good shape, and they're like twenty five or thirty,
and I'm sure they're vaccinated. The idea that they should be on the treadmill like heaving into this cloth over their mouth is completely insane, and that anyone demands this of other people is insane. And they still do it in a lot of places. In my lobby, they have a big man required indoors. Now I don't comply. But there's this weird tension because the people that still think this stuff needs to be happening. They they don't want to be told that they're silly and kind of dumb.
They want to still live in this fantasy land that they're the normal ones. And by the way, airplanes still require it. Cabs ubers any uber anywhere in the country. If you're listening to this in in Nebraska right now, if you're listening is wherever you are, uber still requires you to mask up. Why, Yeah, yeah, it makes no sense,
and especially you know in situations like airplanes. Again, yeah, we all wear our masks, you know, sitting in into part on airplanes, and then we all take off our masks to eat and drink because that somehow makes sense, and then put the masks right back on because you know, the aerosols we just we just spit all over the place. Aren't going to affect each other. None of it makes sense.
None of it's made sense for a long time. And I have to say that, like in the winter and in the fall and last spring, I made my kids mask outside because I didn't want to get yelled at by anybody. I didn't I didn't want to get it into altercation on the street while I'm with my children. But now I'm like, bring it, bring it on, let's let's let's have a fight in June twenty twenty one about masking on the street because I'm not having it anymore.
I couldn't agree with you more. And I'm I'm starting to get to the point now where you know, my my local grocery store, because I like, you know, the I like, you know, fancy coconut waters and things like that. You know, So I go into a grocery store. There's two that but but but they both actually those kind of more standard grocery store and the more sort of health food you know, vegan friendly alternative grocery store I go to. They both require masks, and I mean, I
don't want to see that. What I think is so unfair is that the way that they always move around the discussion so you can never get accountability. Like if I go in there without a mask on and and somebody tells me and I cause a problem, you know that I'll be dragged if I like bring this to
social media. But people say it's not the fault of the employees, I'm like, well, whose fault is it, like, you know, show me the person making the decision, right, Yeah, And I think a lot of it has this kind of you know, just taking the mask got off and waiting for somebody to say something to you, because that's the only way we really get out of this. I think so many people. Yeah, you know, we started this conversation with how many people are just have anxiety about
removing their masks, and how many people are afraid. But I also think there's some large subset of people who are just following the crowd, and they don't want to stick out, and they don't want to have an argument. They don't want anybody to say, hey, why aren't you wearing your mask, and so they're wearing it. So those of us who are open to having the conversation and open to having the argument, we should lead the way
on this. Speaking to Carol Markowitch, she's got a great piece in the New York Post, the editorial page in the New York Post, and she talks about what it was like taking her son to a party outside roller skating and sure enough, you have to wear a mask or in the ring, you have to wear a mask. Which yeah, which is completely bonkers. But you know, Carol, I, you know, I have to say that as as far as I'm concerned, there needs to be a repudiation of fauciism.
And this is what this is why, because I've had people say, oh, you're too upset about this or something I said, and I'm like, I don't think I'm upset enough. Actually, because we're while while the reductions are happening, and people who live in Florida are like, oh great, um, I was just in Miami. There are still plenty of places that do the whole the you know, the mask theater of you got to wear it when you go to the hostess stand in the restaurant, but then you can
take it like there. It is not a mask free zone. People are are wrong when they say that it is actually still and we have to repudiate that this. There are a few things it did not work, and this is still considered a controversial thing to say, but mask mandates, mask policies did not work anywhere near as advertised. That's one part of this. And the second part of this is that you know, they they've just begun to begun to see and we've talked about before natural immunity and
how this doesn't really ever get discussed. The Cleveland Clinic, not right wing crazydoc dot com. The Cleveland Clinic just did a study of over fifty thousand people and sure enough, those who are vaccinated natural vaccinated versus those who are have natural immunity, same level of protection for them. What a shot. And this is another fight we need to have. It's not over. Yeah, absolutely, you know I have to My column in Today's New York Post is about New
Yorker's please take off your masks. But I had another one two days ago on Monday, where I talked about how we must confront where Fauchi went wrong. He has to answer questions. We lived under his insane guidance for fifteen months and we did really crazy things over and over again, and we need him to answer questions. And yet we have this media who's asking him like, Wow, how are you so amazing? And that's you know, that's what we get from our press. But we really need
some answers. And one of the things I need answered from him is he did not think that the masks could contain the virus because the virus is too small, and he was talking about medical masks at the time, and then we all moved collectively to cloth masks. So did the virus grow is without how the cloth masks were able to contain it according to his you know calculations. I want to hear it from him. I don't want to hear it from amateur you know doctors on Twitter.
I want doctor Fautre to answer what changed his mind on masks specifically. It's it's just it's something that there will be so much of a of a fight over because it did become a cultural and political symbol, as we all now know. It did become a sign of Democrat tribal allegiance and anti trumpism and all these things.
And when you add all that together, that I mean it is it is my belief that mask wearing as people did it in this country, which is, you know, put a cloth mask onto take it off sometimes, yet sometimes they whatever touching all the time, had zero appreciable effect whatsoever on the spread of COVID. That is my
honest belief. And it has been really all along. Although I was open in the beginning to okay, maybe like maybe this will actually really work the way we're told and if we let this go, for everybody who's like, Buck, why are you still on this, You're going to be wearing masks on planes for the next two or three years minimum, folks at least. Yeah, because they must have places where it still goes on to perpetuate this fantasy
that what they did was worthwhile. Right, absolutely right, And I think that, you know, I don't understand the wanting to not talk about this anymore, like or just saying like, Okay, it's over, forget it, Like I can't forget it. I can't forget the fact that my five year old today is still in school masks my kid. You know, I have three kids eleven, eight, and five. They're all masked in school. They're all masked at recess. And it's crazy.
And we continue to do this, and I have no faith that we won't continue to do this in the fall. Where do you think where do you think we should we should draw the line on restaurants here, Carol, because there are some places that yeah, there are some places that are doing this separate on the honor system based on vaccine passports, but they're actually not legally allowed to demand but they're kind of like intimidating people into self segregating by vax status in restaurants here in New York.
I mean, I mean, I'm just telling everybody. I may end up causing a scene somewhere, like I might be some like right wing talk radio host goes viral because I'm going to lose my mind on these people. I'm gonna say who's in charge. I want the manager, like I want the owner. I want to know who's actually making this decision, right right. It's also amazing, I'll Appundon
on Twitter pointed this out. But they're putting all the unvaccinated people together in one space in a lot of places, like here's the vaccinated area, and here's the unvaccinated area, and all the unvaccinated people are sitting together, which is rescued and just spreading them around. Um, yeah, I don't know, and I don't I also don't know how they're going to enforce this, or how they're going to what about people who can't get the vaccine or you know, um,
just for all kinds of medical reasons. Are they just never going to be allowed to go to restaurants again? Um? What about the fact that this is like the most easily forged piece of paper in the world. This vaccine card that they gave us with our you know the name of the vaccine on it is, it's it's ridiculously easy to forge. I just I have no faith in this like insane system. I think we need to drop it as soon as possible. Carol Mark, what's everybody? Go
check out her latest in the New York Post. She's been one of the very There's been like a handful of as Carol, And I gotta say, and I gave you real, real props, real high five on this. There's the pressure to even just bend the knee a little bit on this stuff. Well, yeah, masks, aren't that big a deal, even if I'm a way you know, and and and you know, oh well, do kids really need to be in school? Zoom schools just as good? There were so many places, and you held the line, you
stayed strong on it. So you deserved a lot of praise for that. Thank you, and thanks for coming on. We'll talk to you soon. Thanks so much.
