Buck’s First Thoughts - Kamala Sinks At Naval Academy

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cop about it. I said, why are you guys closing the cause the only real way in and out of South Beach to one lane. They said, We're just trying to manage the flow. I was like, well, that doesn't seem like a good idea if you're trying to go someplace. But I had a great weekend with the brothers. We had a range day, went shooting on all day Saturday, tackle shooting stuff, and we had such a great time. I've got fantastic brothers. Names are Keats and Mason. We

only like strange names in my family anyway. So we had a great day. But then I got word about what happened in a part of Miami. There's there's a mass shooting. Three guys got it's all on video. Three guys got out of a got out of an suv and just started They had semi automatic rifles and they were at a rap concert and they just started shooting into a crowd. Two people dead, twenty people hit by bullets,

twenty people wounded. And this is just one of many incidents across the country that's getting attention right now in major cities. On a more day weekend, there is there's there's a lot of violence out there, and we're seeing

these these viral videos of it. We're seeing what's happening in place after place, whether it's the recent homicide numbers in Portland, or the punching in the face for absolutely no reason of an Asian American woman in Chinatown in New York City, all of these different incidents where you can see these videos of people who are being attacked, people who are being shot, people who are suffering violence

in our society when they should. You would think we would be safer than we've been in a long time, considering that there's been so little human contact for about a year because of COVID relatively speaking, so little contact, but no what we have is mass increases across the country in shootings and violence on the streets, and you have to wonder what is it going to take for Democrats to understand that we have to do something about this,

that this isn't just going to go away. There has been a change in perception among those who are willing to or prone to do violence that now is a time when they are less likely to be caught, less likely to be severely punished. The criminal element in our society thinks that they can act with a more free hand against innocence than they have in a long time, and it comes directly from the undermining of police. We see this. It comes from the narrative that cops are

the problem when really cops are the solution. And when does it finally dawn upon demokrats that if they don't change course here, this is just going to continue to get worse and they will pay a price in the midterms. Finally, the corporate media is having to wake up to this reality. They've tried so very hard to hide this, to act like it's not really something that's as bad as we're

saying it is. They've done everything in their power to downplay this, but now we are finally at a place where they're seeing that the violence is not something that can be discarded anymore, not something that can be completely covered up or not covered at all really by the media. And you know what part of this is, there's there's a deep incompetence from the top down of our government. Now.

I know that law enforcement is primarily a state and local issue, but there is a tone that is set from the very top, a national conversation, a national perception, and when you have people like Joe Biden and Kamala Harris in charge, there is a growing sense among people that are having to deal with all of this of lawlessness. It creates a cycle. It creates a perception that things

are deteriorating, they're getting worse. And what makes that even more challenging to deal with is that they when they finally have to look at what's happening, When Harris and Biden and this White House and this Democrat Party at the national level has to look at the situation, can't just avert their eyes anymore. They take the wrong lessons from it. We have violence escalating in this country, and what do Democrats focus on? What are we hearing about

from them. Oh, that's right, A January six commission, that's what that's what we really need to be hearing about. We need to be hearing about the January six commission, as if that's going to make anyone truly safer, as if the real problem out there is that we haven't had enough of a focus on one riot that involved right wingers, one riot that did not result in a single fatality of law enforcement or a bystander, but did result in the death of Ashley Babbitt, an unarmed female

protester shot in the neck. But the narrative that you hear from Biden is very similar to what you'd hear from say, lunatic leftist Keith Olberman, who if you follow his stuff on Twitterman, this guy, I think he's in the process of a long sustained mental breakdown, and maybe he's been in the midst of some kind of an emotional meltdown for many, many years now. But this is

what you hear from democrats. Cities are are deteriorating. I mean, for Miami, which is a great city with great people, on some Memorial Day, we can have a mass shooting people just pulling up to a crowded a crowded venue and shooting into the crowd three people. This is this is third world lawlessness kind of stuff. And you would think that there would be a sense of urgency to

tackle this, to deal with it right away. It's Miami, it's Portland, it's la It's New York, it's Philadelphia, it's Washington, d C. It's Detroit, it's New Orleans, it's Saint Louis. You'd think that there would be some willingness to see what's really going on, to take some kind of action. But no, they'd rather talk about the January sixth insurrection. Play three. This is the attitude those of us who

want democracy and not dictatorship must take. Republican dominated states attempting to rewrite federal law or Supreme Court verdicts or the basic right of every American to vote, must suffer twice as much as they try to make the rest of the country suffer. The Republicans are lost. They are committed to Trumpism. They are committed to refusing all election outcomes they do not like. They are committed to violence faced with the existential issue that the demographics of the

nation will make them into a permanent minority. They are willing to sacrifice everything, including you and me and this nation's future, to retain their power. It is like invasion of the body snatchers. They are gone. Stop trying to negotiate with them. The Republican's naked attempt to overthrow the government last January was just practice. These are bullies, and bullies stop only when they are hurt more than they can hurt. And the Anti Democracy Party must be hurt

so badly that it can never recover. Bye Bye bar gard A Party. This guy is out of his mind. He's great. Just remember MSNBC used to pay this guy millions of dollars to be their biggest host at eight o'clock. You remember that this got this lunatic. They're trying to overthrow the government lost January? Yes, how exactly, how are a bunch of unarmed, unarmed rioters going to overthrow the government? How was that? I just want one of these leftist lunatics. I just want one of them to explain to me

how this plan was supposed to come to fruition. I mean, what are they going to do? A sit in? Well, democrats do that in state capitals and other places. In Congress they do that whenever they want. That's not going to overthrow the government. What were they gonna do? What was Qann Shaman really going to withstand? And an assault from from Metro swat, from the National Guard, from you know, FBI tactical teams, what was he gonna do? He's gonna

throw his spear at them. This is this is very damaging though, because they use the exaggeration of January six, They exaggerate what happened on that day. They use this to bludgeon the other side, to bludgeon conservatives into silence, while the true authoritarians continue to be the Democrats. The true authoritarians in this country vote for Biden and Harris and our leftists and our Marxists and our communists. That's

what's really happening in our society. But they have this narrative that they think excuses or erases the reality of you and I can so plainly see the only violence they want to talk about is a day that the violence was against a protester, a rioter, and not actually

lethal against the state. Meanwhile, day in and day out, people who live in our cities, our fellow Americans, our neighbors, people are being shot in ever increasing number month to month, year to year because of the undermining of law enforcement and the abandonment of rule of law and individual responsibility in society as a foundational principle by the Democrat Party, because what do they offer us up instead? Oh, we'll just spend more money and teach more critical race theory,

and that's really going to solve the problems. That's really going to make everything seem so much better. I eat no for breakfast. So have I been told many times during my career things from oh, you're too young, it's not your turn, they're not ready for you. You know onelike you has done it before. I've heard all of those things many times over the course of my career,

but I didn't listen. And I would encourage anyone who's been told at whatever their gender, to not listen, because again, don't be encumbered by the inability of others to see the potential of who you are. Why would I make you listen to some Kamala Harris stuff there? Why would I make you do that? You might be asking that question. I understand that's a fair question for you to ask.

It's because I want you to really understand this is the vice president of the United States, and everything she says sounds like a nightmarishly boring um just boiler plate hr seminar. I mean, this is the person. She reminds me every time in my life when I've worked for a company or you know, back in college or something, and I had to sit through some you know, you know, wop bomp, Charlie Brown mom kind of like what am I?

Why am I being talked to this way? Kamala Harris gives a speech and it's as inspiring as listening to an airline attendant tell you you about how to put on the seatbelt. Right, that's what That's what it reminds me. If you're just sitting here, you go, why why do I have to listen to this? This person is really the second in command and a sense of the United States government. Oh, she's already backing away from the border, you know that. They they're already saying, well, that's not

really that's not really hers. We'll get into that in a little bit. But she was at the Naval Academy giving a graduation speech over the weekend, and she got a lot of heat because it was a more of a weekend, and she put out a tweet that was basically, you know, have a great weekend everybody, and people were like, Okay, do you know what the weekend's about? Did you know what people are thinking about for this weekend? What it brings to mind? No? No, she did not, did not

give that much thought at all. And yet Kamala was at the Naval Academy giving her speech and let's just say that she sunk her battleship, so to speak, did not make it through the Naval Academy speech. It was not a good speech. And this is the kind of stuff that the in his sense deputy command or a chief. I know that's not really a title, but here's the kind of stuff that she was saying at the Naval Academy. One country's carbon emissions can threaten the sustainability of the

whole earth. One country's carbon emissions can threaten the sustainability of the whole earth. Oh gosh, we should well what do we do? Yeah? What are we going to do? If that's true? Shouldn't the climate change movement just be lobbying China every day to change what it's doing? Why does the climate change movement in this country even bother

with what America's doing. When at the end of the day, if China doesn't change its ways, we're not going to be able to avoid the catastrophic warming they say is going to happen. Well, you all know the answers to this, but you know I'm showing you this stuff. I'm telling you about this stuff, whether it's about Kamala Harris, Joe Biden, because the fact that these are the people who are in charge explain so much of what you see going on. Yeah,

a lot of things are still functioning. Well, we're still America. We still a great country with incredible people who are doing amazing things every day. But when it comes to governance, when it comes to those who are given power to make decisions for the benefit of this nation and to defend the constitution, we have people in charge. You say, I can't believe they're in charge of anything. I mean,

Joe biden't have to ask you. Would you hire another A lot of business owners who listened to this show, would you hire Joe Biden to do anything for you, customer relations, work, in the package room, whatever, I think? The answer is no, No, you would not. And withal with Kamala Harris, I mean Democrat voters and essence already really passed their judgment on her at the national level when she could barely get any attention, any support when she ran for president. But now we got Kamala Harris

lectures happening all the time. This Midshipman is the era we are in, and it is unlike any era that came before. So the challenge now, the challenge before us now is how to mount a modern defense to these modern threats. So let me share with you, for example, a personal experience. A few years ago, when I was in the United States Senate, I visited the USS Scranton. It was outside of San Diego, California. I know it's so it's so boring and so uninspiring that I again,

I don't want to take up your time. I never want to waste even a minute of your time. But you did hear this is the vice president. Really, this is this is what what we're hearing from you. Though she she had a particularly rough time in this speech, I think everybody really understood that it was it was it was bad. Um, there's actually a here you go. There was a line she made a joke Um, she said, just ask any marine today would she rather carry twenty

pounds of batteries or a rolled up solar panel? And I am positive she will tell you a solar panel, and so would he. Okay, so yeah, female marines with solar panels. That's that's really that's the future of the United States military now, according to Kamala Harris friends, Um, it really is like the third tier professors somehow gathered together in the faculty lounge and came up with how they're going to run the United States federal government. That's

what your go that's what you see happening right now. Fortunately, there are still checks and balances in the system. Their places like Florida with Governor Ron de Santis and even Governor Abbott and Texas is doing some good stuff to fill in the gaps here, the gaps and governance, but it's not going to get any better with Biden or comlike. And assure you you know how important small businesses are

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are happy for you and when they're not. I've always made it a point to call, for example, friends of mine not only when they're successful in something, but also when they've had a big downturn in some regard if friends of mine have ever lost their jobs, because you remember that, you remember when people reach out to you when things are tough, and you remember when people reach out to you and congratulate you. These are things that I will tell you. You learn a lot about individuals

in those moments. And I was honestly so thankful for people in my life but also in conservative media who had really nice things to say when the announcement was formally made last Thursday that I will be and I try to be very specific about how I say this, and I've been thinking of reflecting on this a lot of the weekend. I will be taking over a poor of the radio time slot formerly held by the great Rush Limbaugh. That's I'm not replacing. I'm not taking over

all of it. I'm taking over a portion of the time slot. I will be Premier's show with Clay Travis, the two of us together in that time slot, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show. That's it. There's no replacing Rush. And you know, I'm I'm very clear on that Rush is the giant of our industry. Right. You know, if you if you come after Henry Ford, you know who's the who's the CEO of Ford Motors? You know, after Henry Ford? Can any of you think now it might

have been a great CEO? But you know there's Henry Ford. There's everybody else, right, who's the I'm just trying to you know, Steve Jobs, Well that's recent enough, maybe you'd know that it's, uh, the other guy whose name is Tim Cook. But Tim Cook is great and Apple's the most profitable it's or you know, the most valuable it's ever been. But he's not Steve Jobs. So I get and I want to I really want to establish that

level of respect here. It's important. I also want to say that the people who are in my business who went out of their way to say nice things. Especially. Look, when they reach out to me privately, that's great, but also when they say something publicly about it, it's really meaningful. Because I'm a guy who, I will tell you, in this business, I've been I've just been grinding it out for a decade now, and there have been some some things that should have gone my way. I think that

didn't hear in there. There have been some TV opportunities that I was very close to getting and did not get for whatever reason. And you know, and that's, by the way, that's a part of being in media, and I understand that. But you know, I've had some some close calls where things would have been very different in a very good way. But I had to just keep on doing what I do. I had to keep on showing up, doing the best possible show that I could

and having and focusing on the work. That's always been my thing. I've focus on the work. You'll note I don't I don't get into petty things with people. I don't spend my time. I certainly don't spend time on this show criticizing or attacking other conservatives. If anything, I want to I want to uplift them. I want to have great guests on my show, and I want to praise people on the right who were doing good work

in media. So they're the people that were very nice to me and they're recently or you know, said very nice things that I want to take a moment to say thank you to them. And then there are also the people that I owe my career too at some level. Rush is one of them. My feeling on this has always been that Rush Limbaugh gave me and he had to, he had to approve it and bless it. So he really was the one who gave me my big break.

Filling in for Rush Limball many times, but even just that first time, I think I was the youngest person to ever do it, and that was really meaningful. That was a big break in my career. But Rush gave me my big break. Glenn Beck, who is a premier radio host and honestly a giant in conservative media, he gave me my start. I wouldn't be here, I wouldn't be doing what I do right now without Glenn Beck.

And I really want to say that toll, and that's not you know, I wouldn't be successful and have had, have had some of the opportunities, especially this most recent opportunity of going in twelve to three starting June twenty first, hundreds and hundreds of stations across the country with my co host Clay Travis. I wouldn't have that without Rush, So clearly I'll a huge debt to Rush, but I wouldn't have even been in the game without Glenn. I

wouldn't have even started this. And Glenn actually told this story. You've heard me tell it before. He told it on his show last week, and just you know, his team reached out to me and Stu Bridgear who is I think, I said Burgear pardon me, but Stu. I just know if it's Stu. Stu is a great guy, and he reached out to me and said congratulations, and it was so kind. That would have been more than enough for me. I mean, it's just nice to hear from people in

the industry who have good things to say. But Glenn really really went the extra mile for me. And you know, Glenn's a guy who I don't talk to him a lot these days, but he knows that I respect him, I appreciate him, and if I ever saw him, you know, and I mean if I bump into him somewhere at a venue or something, I mean, I give Glenn a hug. We hug. That's how I feel about Glenn Beck. Here's what he had to say about the announcement last week.

They have just announced a replacement for Rush Limbaugh, and I couldn't be more excited and thrilled. It's two people. One of them is Clay Travis. Clay Travis, I don't know, you know more because he's mainly came from sports, but I'm a big fan of what he's done. And I am so excited that a friend of mine and a former co worker, Buck Sexton, is going to be the second half of the partnership, the duel that will replace Rush Limbaugh. How awesome is that for her? He was

a Blaze contributor. He worked here for a long time. He was going security, Yeah, he was National Security. He sat there in my office I don't even know, fifteen years ago and I said you need to work here, and he said, I'm going to work on Wall Street. And I said, ah, you need to work here. And I don't remember how it happened, but that's what he did. He came to work for us and was very very popular, very fast, started his own radio show with Premiere, and now is going to be part of the team that

is replacing Rush Limbaugh. And nobody replaces Rush Limbaugh. But and I know these guys both have a healthy respect for that, but they can you know, they're really powerful, interesting smart guys, really really smart art. I think this is going to be a powerful duo. Clay, Welcome to the family. Buck. I couldn't be more proud. And congratulations, congratulations. I honestly gotta, I gotta. I got a frog in my throat when I heard that when Glenn said that,

So that was really meaningful. And what Glenn said there the only thing that he did. It was ten years ago, not fifteen years ago. But I mean it feels like it feels like twenty years ago. But it was ten years ago, almost to the almost to the day. Now, Oh my gosh, I just realized this year. It was I think it was June fifth of twenty eleven that I sat in Glenn's office right around there. I'd have to go back and look at a calendar, but it was like the Wednesday of the first week of June.

I sat in Glenn's office in Mintown, Manhattan, and it's just like he said. He said, you know, I told him my plans were. Why did I have that meeting Because one of his people heard about me and they just wanted me to maybe contribute some articles for their new website. That was the story at the time. And I knew a lot about national security and counter terrorism, so I was going to write articles for their website.

And Glenn, to his to my everlasting gratitude and to his tremendous credit, talk to me for an hour, just the two of us, just sitting there, just talking about everything conservative meeting. He says, no, no, no, you're coming to work for me. You're going to work here. And I love that. He said co worker. I was his employee. He's being very kind. I was his employee, but he's being nice. You know. I was working for Glenn when I came on board, and it changed my life. Glenn

Beck changed my life. And I've said this before, and I think people really need to know this because if you if you listen to the show, if you consume conservative content. The Blade, which I know, is doing really well now as a website, and there's a whole bunch of other talents that are doing great over there and everything. But when the Blaze got started, when it got going, that place was ninja school for young conservative pundits, writers, authors,

radio host TV show hosts. It was incredible the people that came through there. If you think back to it in the early days, when I was doing a show called The Real News, it was Will Kine now at Fox. He was my co host there. Pete heg Sath he's a Fox. He was on our show all the time. We had so many folks come through. Lawrence Jones comes from He got his start at the Blaze. Comes from the Blaze. Honest. I can't even think Katie Pavlich, Guy Benson used to be doing The Blaze all the time

before they got picked up at Fox. I think back to all the people that went through there. You know, Tommy Laren got her start really mean, she was at One American News, but she really blew up at the Blaze and it gave so many of us a start in a business where it's really hard to get that. And Glenn deserves a tremendous amount of credit. You have a better, more robust, more talented conservative media period because of Glenbeck's vision to start GBTV in the blaze, and

he is the reason I'm even in this industry. So you know, I get a little choked up when I hear the guy that gave me my start, the guy that changed my life. Let me pursue my passion and let me make a real difference in this country in whatever way that I have been able to, and hopefully we'll be able to do a bigger one in the future. To have Glenn, I mean, it's it's like getting a hug and ana, I'm proud of you from my obi wan kenobi here. That's what it feels like. There's somebody else.

There's somebody else out there who had very kind things to say and is a great guy. And I really appreciate not only what he said about me, but what he does for conservative conservatism day in and day out. And I'll get to that in just a second. Some people in this business are really generous and really supportive, and I appreciate them. There aren't very many of them who are like that, but there are some out there who are willing to give a high five and congratulations

to other people in the field. They're not just thinking about themselves, just talking before about what Glenn Beck had done for me and how he changed my life, and so I'm forever grateful to the guy. And also I do really just respect him. He's a great storyteller, he's a great talent. He's done a lot for conservative media, not just with his work but also bringing into the

business people like me. There are a lot of folks who do this, you know, if you like Laurence Stones, if you like Will Kine, if you like you know, I can't even think of them off the top of my head. So many different talents got started with Glenn at the Blaze. So he's done a lot for conservatism. Another person who is doing a lot for conservatism and the conservative media and for this country is Dan Bongino. Dan Bongino has been a friend to me and he's

advised me on things. He's spoken to me at detail, at length about conservative media strategy and how we get our messaging out there. And as you know, he's involved in Rumble, he's involved in Parlor, and I've been a huge supporter of his efforts to make those platforms happen because that allows conservatives. We're creating those spaces we're creating those platforms to be able to have our message heard. It's just essential. We're not gonna win unless we have

these things. But also, Dan's just a good guy. He's always been an honorable guy, and I appreciate him in this business. And he had some very kind words to say about my announcement last week, and I want to let you hear him. And then I want to say a few words about Dan. So yesterday a friend of mine, Buck Sexton, and Clay Travis. Well, I don't know, but i've heard as a good guy. Don't know him, never met him before in my life, but I do know

Buck very well. First off, I want to sincerely congratulate both Buck Sexton and Clay Travis. I don't Again, I don't know Clay, so I don't want to be disengagious, but I heard he's a great guy. I do know Buck. Buck is a great guy, and I know they're both very talented and have built very very good quality audiences by producing great product. So I congratulate them on their success. Very kind words from Dan, and deeply appreciated what he said. There is true. Dan and I have known each other

for years. We have both filled in for Sean Hannity in the past on radio, and Dan has earned and this is really, this is something that I think you need to know. There are some people who are in this business who you know, they got a family member, or they they have a leg up or something, or they got a famous last name. Dan Bongino has earned

every every pair of eyes, every pair of ears. He's got himself through talent, hard work, determination, and he's been willing to tell people like me some of the things that he's picked up, some of the things that have worked for him along the way to help other Conservatives because he wants our side to win. He's a warrior for our team. He believes that what's what's best for

the country is what's important first and foremost. And anybody who's with him, anybody who wants to do their part in trying to fight for the values that we all share, he'll actually give a hand up. That is rare in this business. There are a lot of people and I'm not going to name the people who aren't generous this way. I mean, last week there were there were a couple of folks who maybe made an announcement or something on

the day of my announcement. You know, there are a couple of people out there, but I don't want to focus on anything negative. I don't want to do that because that's not that's not what I'm about. I was. You know, there are a couple of folks I was a little disappointed in last week. UM So instead of talking about them, I'd rather just say thank you to Dan Bongino, a great warrior for conservatism. He is going to be the Cumulus Westwood one host, as you know,

from twelve to three. And Dan does a great show and he's a great guy and he's has always been. So if you're ever wondering, it's like, what does what does Buck think of Dan Bongino? This here on the record for all of you. I like Dan Bongino a lot, and he's earned every bit of his success and he's obviously been phenomenally successful, particular the last few years in conservative media. He's earned it a lot of respect for that. And then there's of course Glenn Beck too, And you

know what, can I tell you? Glenn changed my life? Right, So Glenn and Dan, thank you to both of you so much. And to say the things you said, I know they both meant it. I know they both meant it, and they didn't have to say it, and they did

it anyway. They're good guys, they're quality individuals, and I'm honored to have worked with them and been a part of the movement that we're all fighting for alongside them, shields high, as we say, it's almost like the corporate Democrat aligned media is suddenly discovering that there's violence in a lot of American cities that's getting worse and worse month after month. Places like Portland almost seem out of control. Is this really sudden? Is this really something they've just

figured out? Let's get our friend David Harsani in the mix. He's a senior writer at National Review dot com. Go check out his latest pieces there. David, great to have you. Always a pleasure. Thank you. What do you think about this? I mean, how could they not know that this is what's going on? Well, I mean they knew obviously, right, I know they knew, but you know what I mean, right, Like, it's like, oh, I guess we have to cover this now, Yeah, yeah,

you know. I mean last summer, you know, it was a president presidential election going on, so it was inconvenient for them to discuss, you know, widespread leftist of violence. Now I'm not saying these people are members of the Democratic Party, but they're leftists. They share some of the common goals of some Democrats. And you know, they were involved in the most expensive riots in American history, you know, over billion dollars. I think it was insurance companies had

to pay out. And you wouldn't have you would have thought that, you know, there were just some you know, mini uprisings here and there, and that had nothing to do with leftism. And then now you know, in Portland where there's a huge spiking crime, some of a dude to de policing and you know, defunding the police. You know, they have to cover it and they try to frame it as you know, some wild extremists have hijacked the movement. But that's not what it really looked like to me,

at least when it was happening. And I have to say, I want your analysis of what's really going on in the minds of people who say public and I'm talking with those who have platforms who have influenced who say that defund the police is a good idea or something to be pursued. I have a hard time believing that anybody is that stupid. But it's also surprising to me because it seems that they don't care that they're being shown to be that stupid every time they say it.

You know what I mean, This is something that it's such a foolish idea. It's so counterintuitive to any rational person that it should be embarrassing to say out loud. I think there are people who know better who say it, David, but they're not embarrassed to say it. Yeah, because they can join this movement and they you know, and they will be praised by the right people, and no one's going to call them out on the TV shows they

appear on and so on. So, you know, first it was to fund the police, and then you know, when it started to maybe hurt Biden and other Democrats, and all of a sudden it was, well, we don't you know, it just means redirecting funds and stuff like that. Well why didn't just say that originally? But even then BLM activists would be like, no, we don't want cops. You know, we wanted to fund the police departments. And you know, I'm not sure people know this but we are not

a heavily policed place. In many countries in Europe, for instance, there are more cops per capita than they are in the United States. It's not as if, you know, police forces are huge in this country and involved in our lives in the way they are in many other countries. And to defund the cops who are protecting quite often, you know, the most vulnerable populations in this country is insanity. You're not helping the people you're supposed to be, you know,

supposed to be fighting for. And it's not to say there aren't bad cops here and there, but the idea that you know, you you you sort of make every cop look like a villain, and you want to fund those departments. It's just it's it's counterproductive and insane, and I just can't believe any responsible person would sign up for something like that. David, we're speaking to David Harsani everyone from National Review dot com. Do you think that that that already the numbers because they look so bad.

I mean, you had last year the as a top fifty cities I think had an average of forty percent increase in shootings or might even been in homicide but it's definitely in shootings over the last the previous year. Are the midterms just already starting to crop up in

the mind of Democrats? Is that already what's pushing a because you can tell there's there's the defund the police chorus is getting less loud and prominent in the Democrat Party and it seems like they're they're not they're not pivoting toward law and order, but they realize that this is starting to become a liability or do they? Um? I think most do. I mean, it depends where you are.

You have you know, if you're someone who's in a completely progressive district sometimes you know a completely you know well to do prosperous, you know, dominantly what you know, white neighborhood, then you get to say things like that because it doesn't affect you. Um. You know, if you're in in a in a in a suburb somewhere of a you know, a major city where crime is starting to creep creep out towards you and things like that,

you're probably worried about it now. And if you're an African American maybe in an area where where crime is on the uptick, you might you might be worried about it. I don't think defund the police is as popular with black Americans as it is with you know, the activist classed white Americans. So um, I think it's troubling. But I think there are kind of politicians in the Democratic Party now that don't really care, you know about that district in Pennsylvania that has to be held. That's a

purple district, you know. So I think for Joe Biden and for leaders of the party, it's going to be problematic. And that's why you're seeing a lot of the stories you're seeing in a lot of the you know, backing away, as you say, speaking to David Harsani, senior writer at National Review, David, how are you feeling about the return

to normalcy in this country? You know? I saw you had Pete Buddha Judge over the weekend saying that wearing because because you know, I flew, I was down in Miami and came back, you know, after being down with my brothers who lived down there for a few days, and all they just goad me now with you know, oh yeah, our governor's descentist, who's yours again? I'm like, yeah, it's Cuomo. It's Cuomo, I know. But the masks on planes, for example, you know, masks on planes. They say that

we should do this. Pete Buddha judge says, says we should do this because it's about being respectful. This is really what I've turned it on now. This is like a cultural signifier for people. Yeah. I thought it was about science, right, and then now it's about respect you know. I went to a supermarket the other day and basically I was the only person without a mask on. And just I don't understand why we all got vaccinated. I think there were twenty cases. Maybe maybe I'm wrong about this.

With something like twenty cases in my county. Today, you have to you literally have to go and try to get sick, and you probably couldn't right now, and yet everyone's wearing masks. So I don't really understand it. I don't. It's become sort of a religious right, you know, our ie to wear a mask and show that you care more.

I don't even know what it's about. I care about the science, you know, and legitimately care about my you know, not getting sick and my family and we're all, you know, we're done with this we're over it, and people constantly still want to maybe relive it. I don't know what it is, but I'll tell you something. It is scary, how how easily to me, at least an unexpected in a way, at least where I live. Maybe it's not

this way everywhere. How easily people were cowed and listen to authorities and allowed the state to dictate what they were wearing and what they were doing for an entire year, and some people still can't get over it. I think that's pretty scary. It's a scary thing that I didn't you know, were's chilling in a sense how easily that can happen, And you wonder next emergencies are going to

happen again, or are people going to rebel? But when you see them all walking around with mass still, you know, you wonder well. I also feel like they were able to very quickly weaponize public fear for political purposes, not only against Donald Trump, but also the way that dissenting voices.

I mean, we're a country, David, that I think likes to believe that free speech is more than just a legal issue in legal legal protection, but also as a principle like that there we have this concept of we should be able to share ideas with each other without restriction, without without reprisal um certainly from the government, but also from corporations or you know, we should allow for the expression of ideas that we disagree with so we can at least hear each other out. That was absolutely not

what happened during the pandemic. You know what my position we've had, We've been having you on, you know, regularly during the pandemic, and I would say that whether it was on lockdowns or masks or any number of major issues of school closures, of public policy, when it came to COVID, there was a real embrace of top down authoritarianism from from both the government which shut down churches and did violate the Constitution, and also just across our

culture and across corporate America and big tech. And I find I don't think that this is something that we can ignore. I think that this is something we have to actually dive into more and really get an understanding for how deep this went, it how problematic it is. Well, yeah, you make two important points there. One is that the ideals that we live by, the freedoms that we live by, are not just freedoms because they're written the fact that has nothing to do with them being written down by

the state. It has to do with something that we're born with. I mean, that's what the Constitution and Declaration of Independence tell us. So if you believe in free speech, it's not just simply because it's written down, you believe in it as a value. I mean, tons of constitutions in Europe and Asia have free speech rights written down in their constitutions, but of course they're not followed, right,

So you know that's important. And the second thing is that you know, people are or people in mainstream media now are obsessed or talking about January six all the time. Listen. I think it was a bad thing and all of that, but the authoritarianism we saw over the last year was far more dangerous than anything a bunch of bozos did

over there at the Capitol, in my opinion. I mean, you have governors acting without any you know, just top down unilaterally, closing churches, closing your business, telling you what to wear, telling you where you can go, telling you can walk on the street without a mask in certain counties. I've never seen something like that in the United States, not in my lifetime. I think it's the most authoritarian thing we've seen, and they did it because we were

all scared. Most people were scared, and that's exactly when we need those laws to work. No one really needs protections when nothing's going on. You need those protections when someone's trying to take them away. And most people just completely acquiesced to what these authorities wanted, and they're still doing it to some extent. That is scary stuff because we might have even a bigger emergency happen, and then I just don't know if the people will be able

to resist or want to resist. Speaking to David Harsani, senior writer at National Review, David, you know, Kamal and Joe both gave speeches of the weekend. The media. They're trying, but they're clearly they recognize that there was an enthusiasm gap with this administration. Do you think that that's gonna Do you think that that's gonna cost them politically? Do you think that this is going to matter? Yeah? I mean, listen, I just don't believe her. Second, anyone was excited about

Joe Biden becoming president. He's been around forever. He's not He's not a talented politician in the way many other presidents have been. And he's not as charismatic. Frankly, it's not to say you can't do a good job whatever. I'm just saying just as a person that's not that charismatic. And Kamala no one likes her. No one has liked what she get four percent. I think when she ran, um, did she make it to Iowa? You know, it's you know, I mean, she made it to Iowa, that was it, right,

I think one state? So, Um, she's never been popular. Um, I think her. I think her popularity polling is like under you know, is underwater by a decent amount. Um. So I think that that matters. I mean, I let's send vice presidents not that important. But in the long run, I think finds a little different situation simply because he's much older and I think people think about the vice president a little more. And that's just the fact. So it matters. So when it comes to the midterms coming up,

I just don't see him saving the House. I mean, I hate to make predictions, but I just don't see him saving the House, at least for Democrats. Not you know, I don't think there's anything he's going to be able to do that's going to excite people not to vote for Republicans in certain districts. David Harsani National Review dot Com for his latest David. Always good to have you, sir, Always a pleasure. Thank you,