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Buck’s First Thoughts - DeSantis Is Not Tired Of Winning

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Buck starts the day diving into the numbers one year after the killing of George Floyd. Did the BLM movement have a positive effect on policing? Plus Ron DeSantis passes a law that defends people from social media censorship and the Floyd family Lawyer wants to remove qualified immunity.


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This is Buck's first thoughts, the news you need to get for your day in forty five minutes. Make sure you subscribe on the iHeart app or wherever you get your podcasts. It has been one year since the killing of George Floyd. We have a police officer who has been convicted of murder in that incident, and today the White House is meeting Joe Biden, the President of the

United States, is meeting with the Floyd family. And we are told, and there are countless editorials, articles, commentaries, we're told that this is a moment that we're supposed to take a step back and think about how we could reform policing and the defund the police movement. We should

consider that. That's where we are right. We're one year into this, and the narrative at the left, the Democrats want you to believe is that George Floyd's George Floyd's memory led to the BLM movement, which brought about greater justice. That's what they want you to think. That's the story.

That's the dominant narrative. That there's racist policing in America where in a systemically racist society, and the BLM movement is addressing that and has for the last year, and there are things to point two to say we're successful

in that regard. Unfortunately, the reality of the BLM movement and its usage of the George Floyd incident as an inciting moment to go for BLM two point zero is that Black Lives Matter has made everything worse for everyone, which I was saying almost exactly a year ago, just a few weeks from now, if you were to go back and listen to this show, that was my assessment then as the riots tour through cities as police or being assaulted and mobbed and pelted and ridiculed spat on,

this was going to be bad for America, and it would be bad for the black and black, black and brown communities that we are told are the whole reason for the defund the police movement, right, that it would actually make things worse for everyone, including in predominantly minority areas of the country where there is a high crime where there is sometimes a high crime rate. Right, That's what we are looking at right now. What has been

the reality of the last year. And I have to point now as we are in this martyrdom worship of the Floyd memory, which is really what's going on here. They have elevated George Floyd as a symbol, a global symbol. In fact, this was a man who, yes, our courts found was the victim of police police excessive force and murder. That is where the process stands right now. There was a murder conviction, as we know. There may be an

appeal we shall see. But that individual, George Floyd, was also somebody who pointed a loaded gun at the belly of a pregnant woman during a home invasion, had a long criminal history, and was someone used to resisting arrest. So that's not to say that what happened to him is in any way justified in that incident, but it is to say that picking this individual as a martyr for a movement is worthy of scrutiny, And I would

say criticism. I would say, why is it that it is in these instances, these cases that we see, whether it's Mike Brown or George Floyd, where law enforcement interaction with somebody who was engaged in criminal activity and then there's a dispute over the level of force use. That's

always the choice. It's not incidents where there actually is what seems to be a clear it's not always, at least focused on instance where there's a clear murder by police, which does happen, although very very rarely, which if we're going to have a serious and honest conversation about this, you have to look at the numbers, the facts, the figures. It is incredibly rare for anyone to be murdered by a police officer in this country. There are, and I'm

telling you the truth, this is serious. There are more people killed every year by beastings. Then there are people who are unarmed and murdered by police in an incident where the police officer is not using forcer appropriately. I think there were unarmed black men in the last year for which we have statistics, which would be twenty nineteen. At this point, there were about nine or was it fourteen that were killed that entire year by police in

an incident that may still have been lawful. But you can't look at the numbers and come away from the saying anything other than why so much exaggeration of this as a concern in society. Why is that we can't just treat each of those individual cases as worthy of due process and the legal system and let the facts bear out and any officer who exceeds exceeds the lawful use of force should be held to full account. No,

it's a narrative, you see. The narrative is that cops are racist, cops are bad, and if only we would defund police, we would have a better society, a better country. That's madness, and we now see what's going on as a result of it all across the country. A really powerful editorial in the Wall Street Journal today from Heather McDonald, the author of The War on Cops, and she writes that nineteen children in Minneapolis have been shot this year.

Remember Minneapolis is where the George Floyd incident happened, an increase of one hundred and seventy one percent over the same period in twenty twenty. Their relatives wonder where the protesters are. Quote, why ain't nobody mad about a ten year old my grandson fighting for his life, asked Sherry Jennings, Ladavian's grandmother at a May seventeenth mayoral event. Because a cop didn't shoot him? Is that why? Miss Jennings warned of a deadly summer for kids if the mayor and

the police police chief don't step up. Later that day, Anniah Allen, six, was caught in a shootout between rival gangs while in her mother's car. Annia died on May nineteenth. Minneapolis homicides Heather McDonald writes between January first and last week were up one hundred and eight percent with the same period in twenty twenty. Shootings were up one hundred and fifty three percent and carjackings two hundred and twenty

two percent. The crime increase began after Floyd's death and has never let up, nor has the assault on law enforcement that began with the arson destruction of the third Precinct building on May twenty eighth, twenty twenty. Officers are routinely punched, kicked, and hit with projectiles. There was a near riot in downtown Minneapolis in the early hours of May twenty second, following a shootout among club patrons. Two

people were killed in that shootout and eight wounded. Responding officers called for backup across the Twin Cities at what the department called an exceptionally chaotic scene. The previous weekend, officers were mas im pelted with rocks and debris while trying to disperse orderly crowds, so there was a movement for justice that started in Minneapolis a year ago. Today, has it achieved any justice? Has it done anything to the system? George Floyd had a trial where there was

a trial because of the killing of George Floyd. The officer was found guilty of his murder on all accounts. That was what happened. Why did we need riots, Why did we need mass destruction of property, arson and violence across the country as part of a movement. What did the movement achieve? Well, we're seeing what the movement achieved is more dead people are, more people raped, more people assaulted. This is just based on the data and numbers all

across the country. And the Democrats use this for mobilization in an election year. The Democrats used this entire incident for the purposes of trying to win power, and it worked. All the pandering, all the nonsense from people like Pelosi, Oh yeah, sure, she's really all about the struggle. She really cares a lot about what's going on in minority communities. No one believes that all the pandering about how cops are bad, cops are evil. Senior Democrats all across their apparatus,

they don't actually think that stuff is true. But they say it, why because it helps mobilize the Democrat base, activists and left wing voters. That there were people who suffered as a result, innocent people all across the country. Doesn't matter that good cops, which people like Joe Biden will say in passing, you know, most of our cops are good. That good cops were defamed with all of this and assaulted and attacked and undermining their jobs never

enters into the calculations of the left. They don't care. They simply don't care. What you see all across the country is what exactly what happened the last time after the Ferguson effect, which was coined by Heather McDonald as a phrase and who wrote this excellent p in the Wall Street Journal. There's more violence, more death, more despair, and it is disproportionately in minority communities. And that is

what has happened as a result of this movement. So as we sit here on the one year anniversary of George Floyd, and you've a bunch of frauds and liars, the activists claiming that this led to a movement that did anything other than make things worse. I just want you to know, right away. They're lying to you. They are lying. Here's what Heather rights. As lawless as Minneapolis has become, it is hardly atypical a drive by shooting. Our drive by shootings and homicides jump nationwide during and

after the Floyd riots. Homicides rose fifty percent in Chicago in twenty twenty, forty six percent in New York City, and thirty eight percent in Los Angeles. The US are the largest annual percentage increase in homicides in recorded history in twenty twenty. That increase has continued in twenty two twenty one. The number of shooting victims in Chicago is up forty three percent in the first three months of twenty twenty one compared with the same period in twenty twenty.

Through May sixteenth, the number of shooting victims in New York City is up seventy eight point six percent over a year ago. In the Bronx, the number is up one hundred and seven one hundred and sixty five point seven percent. We are at the one year mark of George Floyd's killing and the movement that it spawned, and we look at that movement and the data is clear. It is a disaster. Built on misrepresentations and lies. What does the White House? What do the Democrats offer as

the reason behind the huge spike? I mean, no one can hide this data anymore. They can't argue about it nationwide. What caused the nationwide increase in violence in homicides, home invasions, armed lobberies, rapes, Well, what caused all of that? Oh, they'll they'll come up with something, I'm sure. And Jensaki among the most obviously inept members of this Biden White House. This is her explanation, the White House Press secretary for what caused the rise in crime? Plate too? Is there

a crime problem in this country? Well, I would say, certainly there is a guns problem, and that's something the President would say. And there are communities where local violence and community violence is an issue, and that's one of the reasons that we have proposed and have now are implementing funding for community violence prevention programs across the country.

I will say that we don't often highlight and you just gave me the opportunity to the fact that between mass shootings, mass shootings that get a lot of attention,

that we lower the flags. There are hundreds thousands of people who lose their lives, and that's one of the reasons the President will continue to advocate for the Senate passing back universal background checks, but also advocate for actions and states where we have seen the greatest level of activism over the past of early years is community violence prevention. She sounds like a moron. Well, there's a reason for that.

This is blather. This is the White House Press secretary saying that there's a there's not a crime problem, there's a gun problem. No, there's a crime problem. A lot of the crime Saki don't even involve guns. There is a crime problem in this country right now. It is all heading in the wrong direction. And the reason for that is Democrat pandering. It's Democrat pandering to victimology, identity politics, anti cop animus. That's why this is happening. We know

why it's happening, but they won't say it. No, they'd rather live in this fantasy land of if only we had more social workers, if only the community violence was addressed differently, I got news for SAKI and all the rest of the lunatic libs. Violence that occurs in the context of crimes, it's not it's not a problem of the community. It's a problem for the community, as in it is done to people who aren't committing crimes. But

there's no sympathy expressed here. There's no desire for immediate change, and that would mean change in policy to make the over ninety nine percent of people who live in even the most high crime neighborhoods, who aren't engaged in violence against the innocent. There's no consideration given for their plight, no more important. Let's just paint some George Floyd murals in places, put up some BLM hashtags, put up some BLM black squares on our instagrams or whatever. Let's do

some virtue signaling. Let's put let's put Black Lives Matter flags at US embassies. I saw that report from what was it, the National Pulse. Right, let's tell the whole world that BLM is a movement that the United States government stands by. It's just propaganda. That's what really is going on with the government. They won't address the real problem here, which is that their undermining law enforcement because there is a narrative that is very apparent on the left.

I mean, you see and hear it all the time that America is a systemically racist country that our police are in fact just the continuation of slave patrols. This is what is said that the historical precursor for police today, this is written about the New York Times, is slave patrols from the anti bellam era. It's a lie, it's historically ignorant, but they still say this, what do we want dead cops? That was a chant that I heard. Pigs in a blanket, fry him like bacon. That was

a chant that I heard from BLM protesters. And I've seen the posters, the placards that they hold up at these at these protests, and I'm not even talking about the riots. There is no honesty. The lib elites are total frauds on this issue. They know, they know that making it harder for cops to do their job, making

sure that people aren't signing up to beat cops. That the ferguson effect of law enforcement officers unwilling to get involved to intervene because they don't want to risk their livelihoods and their freedom perhaps means that innocent, good people all across the country, black, brown, white, everybody, innocent people all across the country suffer as a result of this lie. We saw this all last year. It's appalling that there was such an un willingness people were running scared from

the notion that BLM wasn't actually working out well. That defund the police is the dumbest slogan of any political movement in modern American history. Okay, I can't think of anything as stupid in my lifetime as defund the police. But this is said by people who think that they're astute, think that they're wise on this issue. Really, what would happen if we really defunded police? Oh well, then they get into it. We don't really know what defund means

yet we're still figuring it out. Well, while they're figuring it out, kids are catching stray bullets. While they're figuring it out, places like Chicago and Memphis and New Orleans and New York and Los Angeles are having violence at unforeseen levels in decades and or rather unseen in decades. And what do they say in response to it. Let's just make some more George Floyd murals. That's going to solve the problem. Let's have some more professional athletes take

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what the BLM movement claims. That is at central premise that law enforcement is racist, that people have to be scared if they are black or brown because of law enforcement. This is not rooted in fact, it's not rooted in reason. It's an exaggeration of what is what are outlier events with the millions and millions of police law police civilian interactions that are happening every year, but get rid of

qualified immunity. This is what we're you know, because because I actually do want to focus on, Okay, what does the BLM movement want? A lot of this is just people that are looking for a cause. You know that everything you've got, you know, white liberal nineteen year old girls driving around in you know, Daddy's range rover who are all BLM and you know, marching over there. There

are a joke. I know people like this. You've got thirty year old trust fund kids living in Connecticut who were putting BLM on their Instagram page or BLM on their Facebook. It's virtue signaling, it's it's cool, it's a social We see that. That's obvious, right. This is unfortunately, a very effective tactic of the modern left that they just create because they control so many the institutions of our culture, cheap virtue out there for anyone. All you

have to do is go along. All you have to do is be a mouthpiece for whatever the preferred slogan of the moment may be. And you're showing everybody you're one of the good people. Cost you nothing, you do nothing. Okay, So that's obvious, right, we know that that. You know, college students or people in their twenties and thirties, gen Z millennials who risk nothing and do nothing and live in safe neighborhoods and put out on social media how much they care about BLM and George Floyd and in

memory of George Floyd. We know they're a joke. They don't care, They don't deal with the reality. This is all about them. This is all self indulgence under the cover of altruism. But it's self indulgence. So let's look at what the actual policies are. Let's look at what people who are involved in the movement are actually saying should happen. Here here's Floyd family attorney Chris Stewart on qualified Immunity Play twenty three. This is a phenomenal bill.

Anybody that knows about policing, about civil rights, about how these actually work in court, they know that qualified immunity. Getting rid of that, it's not going to make a bunch of lawyers like myself sue more cops. It's not. It's ridiculous because what really happens is in these cases in court, cities toss the officers away so they don't have any coverage anyway. So it's not going to make

lawyers go out and sue more cops. It's semantics. It's because some people are just saying, I don't want to look like I'm allowing cops to be sued, when in reality it's not going to affect it at all of getting more officers sued. So getting rid of it will change the mentality of policing. It makes officer no, I can't go out there and do whatever I want, which is all the change that needs to happen. So getting rid of it has to happen. It's not going to

hurt police officers. That's semantics. Oh sure, sure, it's semantics. This is not true. What he's saying is, yeah, sure, the law would then make it so that you could sue a cop personally for doing his job at any point in time. But that's not going to result in a whole bunch of lawyers suing cops unnecessarily unfairly. I mean, this is honestly, this this guy is, he's this is a joke. This is a joke. Qualify. Why does qualified immunity exist if it does not grant qualified immunity to

the officers. The law is the law. But what he's saying is, well, sometimes they'll say that you went outside the scope of your employment and that you know you because of your misconduct. Yeah, that's because they've decided that there are limitations to qualified immunity. But the baseline standard is you can't just sue a cop directly for doing his job as a person in the course of his duties. There's a reason exists. It creates an additional barrier to

frivolous bs. But notice he says, yeah, it's just going to create a difference in perception law enforcement. Oh sure, this is the Floyd family attorney, So take you know, you know what's going on here. Sure, Now, cops will say I'm not going to use successive force and murder somebody because I don't have qualified immunity anymore. So, yeah, that's really going to change the thought process. This is

just stupid. I mean, this is a stupid comment from a lawyer who's not very good at the law, but good at getting people upset, good at the narrative, good at making it seem like there's some intellectual merit to any any of these defund the police storylines or these ideas that we're gonna make everything better by getting rid of qualified immunity. It's stunning as this continues to play out, that they're so little honest in the press about this.

But that's where we are as a country, as a society, and people suffer as a result. This is not just something that's rhetorical. This is not just some intellectual argument. There's been a huge surgeon crime in America, and it started right when the BLM movement got going, right when the winds of political change came through police precincts all

across the country. As in the Democrats are ascendant, they're calling the shots, and they're going to feed you to the mob the moment that it is inconvenient for them to defend you as a law enforcement officer. That's what happened. They say, Oh, it's the pandemic that caused the surgeon violence. Now that doesn't stand up to a moment's scrutiny. The numbers all start to change dramatically right around now a

year ago. It was the ascendency of the BLM movement and then narrative of BLM that led to the change policing that led to the huge increase in murders shootings. Remember, for every person who's shot, there's a family that's devastated, there's a community that's devastated, there's a neighborhood that's terrified. Every time that happens, there's a person who loses his or her life, and then there's also all the other victims,

all the other people that have that loss. So when you're talking about thousands of additional homicides compared to what would have been a normal year in America, that's tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of people directly affected and connected to that incident of violence. So the second order effects are much greater, and that we're much broader, and

that's something that you have to remember. So the other part of this, and Heather McDonald actually points this out in her excellent Wall Street Journal piece is that no other country in the world saw a huge surge in violence, no other industrialized nation and saw a huge surgeon violence

because of the pandemic. In fact, if you just think about this for a second, it should be what you saw in Canada and the UK and relative to their normal crime rates, big drops in crime, far fewer people interacting with each other, far fewer people in the streets, more people at home, right, And so yeah, there can be home invasions, but that's a that's a riskier proposition

for criminals, especially in countries where anybody may be armed. Right, There's there's a whole less less drug dealing disputes going on all of that because you have people interacting with each other, less people are locked at home. But the numbers, the data, the facts that don't that don't matter. In all this, there's a storyline. The Democrats stick to it. The Democrats are the party of elevating victims. The Democrats

are the party of helping the oppressed. The fact that they are creating more victims by adhering to this false narrative doesn't matter. And that's just the cost of Democrats doing business. That's just what we see happening. And pretending that police retraining or federal government oversight of police stations looking for racism in every police department that comes up on their radar, that that's going to make anything better

for anybody is a fantasy. We know it is absurd, but people are scared of being called racist, They are scared of falling on the wrong side of BLM, and so so many, out of either just self advancement or cowardice, bend to knee at the altar of Saint George Floyd. Look, George Floyd was somebody who suffered from police excessive force, and an officer is now going to spend decades of

his life in prison for that. I also know that there's plenty of real legal analysis out there that George Floyd, the George Floyd case against Eric choven the incident of George Floyd's killing, his murder, is going to be appealed, and that we will see what ends up happening. But as of right now, we have a police officer convicted of murder, and that is the system has spoken. Yet look at all the rest of what has happened from BLM,

what has the movement actually done all right. There was a trial, and if you believe that George Floyd was murdered, there was justice, at least as much justice as our system can give anyone. What then, for all the rest of it, Heather macdonaldoll just give you a little more from her Wall Street Journal piece here. Of the one hundred homicide victims in Minneapolis since May twenty five, twenty twenty,

only one was killed by a cop. The victim was a suspected gun runner who had tried to run over officers before shooting at them through his car window, causing them to turn fire. There is little evidence that the Minneapolis police department systemically violates black civil rights, but Attorney General Merrick Garland has opened a civil rights investigation into

the Minneapolis police department. Anyway, if history is any guide, the resulting descent descent decree will cause crime to increase in the city as officers back off further proactive policing. The victims of that additional crime increase will, as always, be disproportionately black. At least three quarters of Minneapolis's homicide and shooting victims are black, though the city is less than a fifth black. Sharpton and Crump have no answers

to that dilemma, so they ignore it. The reality of BLM policing in America and the epidemic of violence that we are seeing. Governor Hi, I want to ask you about the bill that you're signing here today. Here, a loyal supporter former President Donald Trump, Nentrept is now a resident in Florida, and he was the platform. Is the bill for him? Bills for everyday Floridians. This is what we said, and it would allow any Floridians to be

able to provide what they're doing. So but I think, I mean, I do think that's another issue that has been brought to bear when you de platform the President United States. But you let I a toll of Homema need to talk about killing years. That is Ron Decantis just just racking up those wins down in Florida, the governor of Florida. He's he's not tired of winning. He's not tired of winning. And I think we all need to understand that this is a guy who's showing us

what can be done at the state level. He signed a bill prohibiting tech platforms from suspending or banning political candidates in the state with possible finds about the two hundred and fifty thousand dollars per day if the candidate is seeking statewide office twenty five thousand dollars per day at the candidate is seeking a non statewide office. This, I mean, this is so important to understand the implications of this. We already have all kinds of restrictions on

the First Amendment that Democrats love. They want restrictions on money and politics. They want restrictions on it was. It was the position of the Obama administration in Citizens United at the Supreme Court, the Solicitor General for the Obama administration wanted the right to be able to ban books about political candidates before an election. That was the official position of the Democrat Party under Barack Obama's time in office. Citizens United. All the dark money in politics, Oh my gosh,

what are we gonna do? Absurd? I work in radio. They are all kinds of restrictions on radio. You know, the FCC, what I can say, who I can talk to, equal time. There's all kinds of things there that are already regulated. But see, the Democrats want no regulation, no touch allowed on the shoulder of big tech. Because Big Tech is almost entirely a left wing pack. That's what we know, that's what we see happening all the time,

and they don't want that to change. They don't want that to be any different because it is an enormous advantage for them, and look what they've been able to do. Meanwhile, you've got you know, Joe Scarborough, who's the ratings are down on that show. He's just not a very smart or a good or ethical person. That's very apparent from what he says and does on TV all the time. But he also doesn't understand the law or the constitution. But this is the kind of crap you'll hear from

leftists or whatever whatever. Scarborough is a whatever whatever my paymasters at MSNBC, whatever, whatever coins they throw at me, that's what he'll do. And whatever they tell him to do, that's what he'll say. Play nineteen. That's what's so cute about this political stunt, this political gesture. First of all,

it's most likely unconstitutional. It violates the First Amendment and how a private company chooses to moderate content on their platform they've been Secondly, the hypocrisy of people like Run De Santis and Josh Hawley saying they're small government conservatives who believe in free market and free enterprise and believe in the power of companies to run things away they want to run, deciding they are going to be used the power of the state to tell Facebook or to

tell Twitter how to run their First Amendment policies. It's just that's a bizarre thing for a small an alleged small government Republican to do. You know, yeah, we're just we're all of a sudden, he's a market absolutist, you know. Yeah, the free bar iss to do whatever they want. First Amendment rights. Yeah yeah, sure, Oh okay, he's on a cable channel. There's all kinds of regulations out there about what you can do, indecency, there are all kinds of

restrictions on transparency and political advertising. I mean to say, just the First Amendment means when when it comes to Facebook and Twitter, for obvious reasons, the left takes the position they can do whatever they want, they can do anything they want, no regularly. Oh okay, So these those are the companies that have no regulation all of a sudden, according to Left, which Joe Scarborough is a part of. I mean, he's just a paid hack will do whatever

they want him to do. And this is so interesting. It's like I always tell you, it's just about power. There's no principle behind any of this. They'll say, what do they have to say to get what they want. That's the attitude of the left, that's the attitude of social justice warriors, that's the attitude of the commies that are increasingly obviously ascendant in American public and private life. We have people that want totalitarian left wing control of

the government. They think that would be a better thing. I'm not saying that we're there and that's what the country is in, but that's what they desire, and whatever they have to say to push in that direction they will say. And people like Joe Scarborough will say it too, because you know they're paying him. We don't have enough data on information to jump to a conclusion at this

point in time. We have repeatedly called for the WHO to support an expert driven evaluation of the pandemic's origins that is free from interference or politicization, and now we're hopeful that WHO can move into a more transparent, independent phase to investigation. I would say, in terms of the report which was specifically about individuals being hospitalized. We have no means of confirming that or denying that. I mean,

it's not a report from the United States. Thank the journalis side of a US intelligence report, so that would have been a US repeat. Well, I don't have any I don't have anything more on a US intelligence report. Now, all of a sudden, and it's not clear. Now, of a sudden, it's not obvious that the Wuhan coronavirus came from, oh,

you know, a cave somewhere. Now, all of a sudden, it may it may in fact be the case that those who were saying all along that this could have been the result of an error in a lab that was studying it. That's not crazy, gosh. I know this is not surprising to you and me. But it is interesting, isn't it. How much changes and how much they the consensus fauci I had left, how much they've gotten wrong

over and over again. Here's the former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on this play twenty Someone somebody will have worked in that laboratory and will decide they can stick out of China. I'll come tell the truth. I'm convinced but sadly, I don't think that will happen in a timely fashion. And so what's the world do? How can

we hold China accountable? There are many for them, and that we could do this, And why on earth would you join the World Health Organization, which were rewards of the Chinese for the exact partner that they joined in the cover up with right, it was doctor Tedros and Chi Chingping that colluded to keep this information out of the hands of the world. And so there are many things the United States government could do to impose real cost on the Chinese Communist Party until they come clean

about what they know and what they did. We know for sure they covered up this virus. I am confident that we will find that the evidence that we have seen to data is consistent with a lab leak, and I'm convinced that's what we'll see. If I'm wrong, I hope the Chinese Communist Party will come forward and make a full oil. If they're going to hold back data, they're never going to give us full transparency. We all know that China won't even allow its own people basic freedoms.

You think that they're really going to respond to a good faith of a good faith ask for data and information from the World Health Organization or the US for that matter. Now, I think that Mike Pompeo, I will tell you, is overstating the leverage that the US has to get answers here. The reality is that there is

nothing that we are going to do. There's nothing we can do to force China to tell us things that would lead us to believe that they were that the Chinese Communist Party, that the regime was reckless in the original or in the outbreak of COVID nineteen and covered it up that effectively their negligence caused a global pandemic that has killed millions of people and cost trillions of dollars. They're never going to admit that. They're never going to give us the data to prove that or see that.

They will always, always, always tell us that this was from bats or we don't know, or you know, whatever it was. That's the way this will go. So I think that we need to understand that, yes, it is worth pressuring China on this, but you know, there's only so much you can do for a situation like this, where China used this as not existential for its future, but certainly a high enough priority to cover this up that nobody is going to get them to do anything

on this that they don't want to do. That's I think that much of it is obvious at this point. But I remember when this was for conspiracy theorists and all the different news stories and all the people who were so quick to either fake certainty or to just why about this? You know, it's been pretty good. And I gotta say Governor rom DeSantis once again desantists he's not tired of winning Play twenty two. Now we have information that this very well may have emanated from the

wu Han Lab. That it was it was a leak from the lab. But you remember when people last year were raising that as something that needed to be investigated. They were de platformed for talking about the lab league, they were censored for having said that. And now even Fauci admits that this may be something that very well is the case. Are they going to now censor Fauci and pull him down off social media? That's one of the things that I will not forgive or forget that

big tech shut down people for wrong think. But they said it was for you know, factual and accuracies. They brought these little, these little idiot sensor stormtroopers. Oh, the fact checkers from places like PolitiFact an embarrassment of an organization and PolitiFact Media matters. These are places where only the the lamest, slimiest human beings would ever want to spend time or draw paycheck. But that's that's what end up happening. They outsourced their sense ship to these so

called fact checkers, and that was it. Right if you were on the wrong side of them, Sorry, the fact checkers have spoken. That's the way it went. And now they're wrong. We see they're wrong on a lot of things. They weren't actually facts. They were just opinions with the veneer of scientific consensus, and that was all that was necessary to push the whole thing through and to shut you down, to shut me down. I still have it. I still have PolitiFact writing an article, Oh outdoor, I said,

outdoor masking is stupid. Yeah, it is stupid. I was right. You know, it looks like the CDC. I saw some rumor reporting the CDC may change its outdoor mask guidance for kids at summer camps because it is so stupid and so unscientific and so idiotic. On every level that the CDC is embarrassed enough to reconsider its position on that. But going back to the COVID origins fight, because you know that's getting a lot of attention this week, and we talked about it in detail yesterday in the show.

What is the preferred the preferred rationale now for why they all turned on the lab league theory and believed the came from a cave theory or the wet market, right, came from the wet market. If that were the case, why weren't all the cases that they initially established having some connection to that wet market. They didn't. Some of them had no connection. That doesn't make sense. But Maggie Haberman, Democrat at the Democrat New York Times, wants you to

know that it's really Trump's fault play eleven. I do think it's important to remember that part of the issue when this was first being reported on and discussed back a few months after the pandemic had begun, was that then President Trump and Mike Pompey, the Secretary of State, both suggested they had seen evidence that this was formed in a lab and they also suggested it was not released on purpose, but they refused to release the evidence showing what it was, and so because of that that

made this instantly political. I think that was you example one thousand, when the Trump administration learned that when you have burned your own credibility over and over again, people are not immediately going to believe you, especially in an election year. However, that does not mean it's not worth discussing.

There has been a sort of persistent, albeit relatively quiet focus on whether that was the origin of the virus, and it is compounded by the fact that there have not been clear answers from Chinese officials about it, and that investigators trying to find out the origin have been stymied. So I do think we're in a different period of this, John, But I also think it's important to remember because I think it's getting reframed in a way that's just not

true to what happened. I don't mean here, I mean in this broader debate by Trump supporters about what happened when this was originally raised. Okay, let's let's unpack this for a second. Maggie Harman in in convincing and pretty you know, pretty fluid fashion here is really just making

the case for yeah, we got it wrong. The media got this wrong by and large, but we had to get it wrong because Trump's such a liar that the fact that Trump said that it came from a lab justified us going against him, which was the media's attitude about everything. If Trump said it, it must be wrong. But they believe it. That's actually a sound rationale. They believe that's actually a reasonable justification for being wrong. If

Trump said it, it has to be incorrect. Doesn't that tell you a lot about where they really were on this? Doesn't that tell you a lot about what the media? Well, you already know this. I mean the media was psychotically opposed to Donald Trump. But even on something where there were other voices all along, there were experts who were saying, now, this actually looked like it probably came from a lab.

They insisted on opposing that theory and discrediting And I'm not just saying we don't think this is right, it's a conspiracy theory. You're a kup, you're a nut. Don't believe it. They insisted on that because it was politically expedient. This is just another data point to show you why you cannot trust the corporate media. You cannot trust them. They are not about honesty and truth and transparency. They are propagandists. They are pushing a narrative, and they are

seeking power for their side. The most important thing this is if you read between the lines what you are being told here, even by a celebrated New York Times journal, The most important thing here was opposing what Donald Trump said at the time, not getting it right because in an election year, having Trump look like one he's correct, but also pointing to China as the origin of this, a country that Donald Trump was much more willing to confront and deal with in a forceful way than his

predecessors of either party. That wasn't a narrative they wanted to tell. It was Trump's a buffoon. He's an idiot. He can't even he's making up things. Oh, he's making up things about the origins of the virus, like he makes up the injecting bleach into his veins. You are these other stupid things you hear from the journals all the time. And so they got this wrong. But they're

not remorseful about getting it wrong. They just wished they hadn't gotten so blatantly caught because what was important to get this right, to understand the truth of this virus early on, because you can't stop the next pandemic, really if you don't know how this one started. Right, that didn't matter as much. Bash Trump, that was always on everything. That was mission number one for the journos. Don't ever forget it.

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