Buck’s First Thoughts - 12/4/20

affidavits under penalty of perjury duke count as evidence. They've been telling us no irregularities, and then we see thousands of votes messed up by the software or found in a bag or a ditch or a biden somewhere that weren't counted in Georgia. We've been seeing these issues even though along we've been told don't pay any attention to it. Now, keep in mind, in states like Georgia, margin of victories less than fifteen thousand votes. Less than fifteen thousand votes, friends,

this is very tight. This is a very thin margin of victory. But they've been telling us all along, Oh, even if there's a little bit of a little bit of a problem here or there, some fraud, a little sprinkled in there, a little irregularity peppered in here, not going to change anything. But then yesterday and these hearings in Georgia. We saw video. I watched the whole twelve minute video presentation by the Trump team, and it certainly

looks very fishy. You have people dismissed, told that they need to go home, it's the end of the end of the election day counting, and then some people stay behind. Then they pull out suitcases from under a table and start doing something it looks a whole lot like counting. And they've got three machines that are able to go during that period of time, and they estimate that those machines could do a couple of thousand, a few thousand ballots an hour, and they got two hours to work

with with no one else there. And this is all on camera, which they believe would be enough for someone to count in invalid, illegal votes such that it would cause the state of Georgia to go for Joe Biden. Now that is the allegation, and I have seen the video,

and the video is certainly very concerning, very interesting. Why would any counting I've seen also the explanation that the most common explanation offered up and it's including from apparently a election official in the state of Georgio who says, oh, these are called cutters, and they're removing they're just removing the absentee ballots from the envelopes. Okay, why would that happen with no one else there? Why would this happen

after hours? This is the standard practice. And then they say, oh, there were no ballots really in the suitcases. They were just empty suitcases or empty bins or something. It's not compelling. The explanation for this so far is not Okay, I can kind of see how that would happen. No, Instead, you look at this and you say, hmm, that's very suspicious, isn't it. That seems concerning to me. But sure enough, mainstream media wants nothing to do with it. They simply

don't care. They tell us that this is already debunked. That's one of their favorite words. Anytime there's a debate that they don't want to have, they use the word debunked to claim that it's already over with. Well, now, finally Governor Kemp of Georgia has come out and he has said that there should be a signature audit. Now,

let me point something out to you. When we were initially having these fights, we were having these debates before the election even happened about how mail in ballots would be so susceptible to fraud. You know what the response was, Oh, be quiet, you idiots. There's signature matching. That's our fail safe. So you can't just mail something and there's signature matching. And that was in the months leading up to the election. What the pro mail in ballot media, Democrats, Libs were saying.

But then we found out after the election. Oh yeah, I remember, the whole signature matching thing. Didn't happen, didn't didn't do it? What do you mean, maybe did at some places, maybe not another's, But no, why wouldn't you

have an audit looking for a signature match here? There's no reason, there's a there's an understandable public controversy, there's there's reason to believe something bad has happened here, and we have at least some prayer of finding out what really went on here by checking to see if signatures match. Now are what are the risks for the people involved in all this? You have to remember that they keep saying, Oh,

this Republican official or that Republican official. Could you imagine if you were in charge of elections for the State of Georgia. You were involved in that process, and you've been saying all along it was fine, and then you're proving to be a fraud and an idiot. That wouldn't look very good, would it. But more than that, and here's the part of it that I think they're they're particularly concerned about. Here's the part of it that that

really worries them. All we have to do is find one clear cut case of fraud in one of these states, and the whole conversation changes. All of a sudden. You have a situation where when they tell us that there's there's no reason to look at this, it's already over and done. Stop being a conspiracy theorist, Stop stop looking at this crazy stuff online. Now the president says that

they didn't match. Now the signature matches is what they would have to do in this case for the absentee ballots, right mail in ballots, that's where the signature match was supposed to be applied. And we keep hearing no evidence of fraud, no evidence of fraud. But every time we try to look into allegations based on evidence, they say, shut it down, end it all. That's because they know if we find one case that they can no longer pretend is not absolutely proven, real, ironclad. The game plan

has to shift. What do they say then about was sending about Nevada, at about Arizona? What do they say about these other states? What do they say about Pennsylvania where we still have very real concerns and there are serious allegations out there. They don't have an answer. They're hoping to shame you and shut you down so that we do not hold the line. And it matters right now here. We are in December, We've got a little over a month before an inauguration, and these weeks ahead

are absolutely critical. We need to support those who are going for answers here. We need to support those who are willing to present the evidence, win or lose. They

are warriors for the cause here. They're doing the right thing, and we need to understand that everything on the left, everything on the left, is at stake right now because not only would their dream of the end of a Trump prison It's not like they're excited about Joe Biden or say, I mean, no, one's that dumb, but at the end of the Trump presidency that makes them so jubilant. That's why there's this sense of joy all across left

wing America. But not only would that be at stake if we establish that there was cheating in this election the Democrat brand, there will be long term ramifications for

that one. When we get into arguments about elections going forward, we'll say, really, cheaters, you want to try and cheat again, and don't ever forget in this process that while while they're asking for good faith, while they're telling all of us, while the media is doing everything they can to just bludgeon you into submission with all these stories about nothing proven. Fact check, it's not true. Fact check, they're lying. Fact

check no evidence. They spend three years pretending that the president of the United States, the actual president of the United States, Donald J. Trump, was an asset of the Kremlin, a traitor to his country, a Russian spy who stole the twenty sixteen election. They are in no position now to point at me or you or anyone else and say, how dare you dabble in these conspiracy theories. No, we're

just fact checking. We'll call it that. They like that better, I think than searching for truth or looking for looking for clues. We'll just say we're fact checking as well, was this election stolen? Fact check? That's what we're doing. And whenever they offer up the no evidence claim, will say, well, the no evidence claim has been debunked. Turn it back around on them, use their weaponized phrases as a means of shutting down their efforts to shut you down. It

will drive them nuts. And as long as we continue to hold the line on this, as long as we continue to do we need to hear, to get the evidence presented and to bring it before a judge, because even if a judge doesn't rule in our favor, at least then it's official record, the evidence presented in court. We can all cite it. We all know it's there. It's public, and we'll hear the presentations as we have

been in these oversight committees of these state legislatures. Well, we'll hear what the Trump team has found so far. And I'm for the first time, you know, I have not been overhyped on this, and a lot of people that are running around saying Trump won, it's one hundred percent, we're going to prove it. I think that they're they're getting ahead of themselves in terms of whether we can

prove it. But this in Georgia. This is the first time I've said we need to dig in on this fraud and see what's really going on here, because I think we may have it. They're calling it a smoking gun. It's not quite there yet. I got to look through all all the different explanations and all the different peculiarities of Georgia state election law. But it certainly looks fishy, and anybody seeing it, anybody who's told what's going on here,

they would think the same thing. So all that nothing to see here, just move on gets a little bit harder for the Libs, doesn't it. And then when you add to that that the Democrats change laws in places like Pennsylvania in an unconstitutional fashion. We still very much are in this fight. It is not over, and we're not going to give up until we decide it's time for us to move on to the next fight. And we're not there yet. So Georgia is on our minds.

This signature match audit should absolutely happen. There's no reason for it not to. Governor Kemp has come forward saying just that it's good to hear from the guy who's kind of quiet for a while. It's seeing there, and it's essential as well going into the January fifth run off for the Senate, that everyone understand that we're watching every move in Georgia and the GOP better have their

poll watchers and their lawyers. They better get their ground game ready to go, get those election troops, so to speak, all in line and ready to watch what's happening and make sure that it's all legitimate and legal and none of these shenanigans happened again. Because I can assure you of this, whatever the Democrats got away with on this election day, they will try the next one. Whatever it is, it'll happen again. Thanks for listening to the Buck Sexton

Show podcast. Get the latest news and information from Buck by heading to Bucksexton dot com. You're not called early on for a signature audit. Obviously a Sectary of State for the laws and the Constitution would have to order that he has not done that. I think it should be done. I think, especially with what we saw today, it raises more questions. There needs to be transparency on that.

I would again call for that, and I think in the next twenty four hours hopefully we'll see a lot more from the hearings that the legislature had today, and we'll be able to look and see what the next steps are. So what are they going to say. What are they going to say when it comes time for this audit, when it's actually happening and we find that there are some signatures that don't match. If that, if that happens, what are they gonna say, Oh, it was a good faith mistake. I just want you to be

prepared for it right now. It was a good faith error. People just we wanted every vote to count. They're not signatures specialists or whatever. Trust me, Trust me, they're gonna find some way to tell you. They're gonna find some way to make it seem like this was no big deal. So here's the truth about Georgia. This is a ap said. When a voter requests an absentee ballot on a paper application,

he or she must sign it. Election officials compare that signature to the signature and voter registration files before a ballot is sent. When those ballots are returned, the required signature on the outer envelope is compared to the signature in the voter registration system. Well, Trump is saying, because a lot of people saw this, that did not happen. Didn't happen. They're supposed to be comparing the signatures. They

didn't compare the signatures. Hey, you know, I gotta count everything. Sorry, whatever comes in. Democrats know that if they eliminate election safeguards, if they take the things that are put in place, that are agreed to by both sides, and then they change them so that it's just possible to flood the zone with whatever it benefits them. Why why is that? Is there something about being a Democrat that means that you prefer the convenience of mailing something in as opposed

to showing up in person and voting. No, I don't think there is, So why do democrat It's recognized. Just think about it this way. What about mail in ballots? Mass mail in ballots for anyone who wants one and everyone is so obviously an enormous benefit to Democrats. They knew this. I mean, Nancy Pelosi was gleeful. And I'm just gonna say it, Republicans should have fought harder on this earlier on, but we got so beaten down by the COVID panic narrative, and oh my gosh, you can't

expect people to stand in line to vote. People are in line to the grocery store all the time. They're going to big box stores. All this stuff about lockdowns acts people act like they're actually stuck in their homes and don't go anywhere. That's not true. No one does that, or very few people do that. No, they go out and they do things that they have to do. And to vote once a year for a vast majority of

people wouldn't seem like such a big imposition. They could have done it so that people were in and out in a speedy amount of time and there's no real risk of no high risk, I should say, a virus transmission. But the Democrats knew if you make this just a free for all, ballots coming in from all over the place, don't know where, don't know who, just send them all out in the mail, millions and millions of live ballots all over the place. They knew it would benefit them.

Why is that? We all know the answer? They say things like there's no fraud. Why would they say that? That's obviously untrue. It's propaganda. If there's no fraud, then how can we investigate it? Right? People say, ah, I heard from a really trusted source that there's no fraud. We all know it's not true, but that is their approach. That is what they will do, that is what they will say. And the implications of all this are enormous.

If we catch them in one serious fraud, even if it's not enough to overturn the election, think about this. If we catch them in one serious fraud in any of these states, then it will be that they'll be wounded in terms of their credibility, their ability to fool Americans of good faith and goodwill into believing the Democrats aren't somehow a corrupt political organization. That's gonna be a lot harder. So I want to find the fraud, even under any circumstances. I want to know what was done here.

I want to know what happened because I don't believe it Democrats who claim the current president is a Russian asset and a fascist, I don't think it's above them to cheat. Just gonna put this out there. You're in the freedom hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. For more Bucked, head to Bucksexton dot com and remember to subscribe to the podcast. What is Joe Biden's Genius Plan to Save America? From the virus. Anybody got any ideas, I got one the same thing. Biden's got a fever.

And the only prescription is more masking. Play one. It is important that we, in fact, the president and the Vice president, we set you know, the pattern by wearing masks. But beyond that, where the federal government has authority, I'm going to issue a standing order that in federal buildings

you have to be masked. In transportation, interstate transportation, you must be masked in airplanes and buses, etc. And so it's a it's a matter of and I think my inclination, Jake is on the first day I'm inaugurated, to say, I'm going to ask the public for one hundred days to mask, just one hundred days to mask, not forever.

One hundred days. And I think we'll see a significant reduction if we occur that that occurs with vaccinations and masking, to drive down the numbers considerably because we haven't been masking. You abject moron, That's really what the plan is. Harmer. Ask you know, I was walking around, I broke my foot on my I'm here here, here, you go here. He actually answered that, why why did he break his foot? Play for I wear the big boot most of the time,

but wanted coming out here. It's just kind of clumsy, so they gave me this little thing to work. How how is your foot? And what happened. What happened was I got out of the shower, I got a dog, and anybody's been around my house, nose dropped a little pup dropped the ball in front of me and for me to grab the ball. And I'm walking through this little alleyway to get to the bedroom. And I grabbed the ball like this and he ran and I was

joking running after him to grab his tail. And what happened was that he slid on a throw rug and I tripped on the rug he slid on. That's what happened. Oh man, not not not very exciting story your next president at the Democrats get their way? Friends, Yeah, hey, I was out there, a little little dog run around and a man the rug, and you know, I was moving and my weight was going and wonder, you know, this is this is who's going to be the leader

of the free world. That Democrats get their way. It's pretty amazing. But back to the mask mandate though, Can you get on a plane right now without a mask, No, you cannot. Can you go into a private business in states that like New York and California have lockdowns and are going through their worst ever right now they have the worst ever number of cases in those states, and some of them, not all of them. Is that is it obvious to anybody why this is happening? Did they

understand why this is happening? Because the masks certainly haven't stopped it. So I'm just wondering, is that anybody have a theory of the because they can keep telling us mascot, mascot, mask up. But remember if you had an infection and a doctor told you at the beginning, oh, don't take anything for that, you don't, you don't need anything, don't take anybiotics, don't take anti virals, don't take anything. You'll you'll, you're you're fine, And then you found out that, oh no,

the doctor came back a few weeks later. Turns out I know that you almost died from that infection, but we were totally wrong about that one. Would you trust that person as much? Would you believe them going forward? I think you'd have a tough time with it on masking alone. Foucci doctor Fauci told us all don't wear masks.

In fact, there was a period there I remembered in New York where you had to be careful if you were an N ninety five mask, you might get ND ninety five shamed because people would say, why are you wearing up? That's for healthcare workers, to which I think anybody would want to respond, I don't want to get the virus. And it's in life. Ultimately, we are in a kind of everyman and woman for himself situation. I know the lives like to pretend that we don't all

know that, but no one cares about your health. But you, maybe your spouse, your immediate family, but no one cares about it as much as you do. No one. You care about your own health more than anyone. And being told you can't wear a more effective mask that you're able to get your hands on because it is meant for healthcare workers just goes to show you the mentality here. Oh, okay, why is it better that? Why should it just be

for healthcare workers? Because it's better? Obviously, how much better? I'm going to tell you that if you look at the science, a properly fitted N ninety five mask is substantially better than the bandanas that people wear and the loose kerchiefs still put around their face and say yeah, I'm masked up. Yeah, yea. Here we are still being told this one hundred days, one hundred days to mask. How many hundreds of days have we already done this?

You know what the definition of insanity as we all know, And that's exactly what Biden's telling us to do here. That's exactly what's going on. He wants you to just keep listening to the same stuff that hasn't worked. Somebody tell me what would it look like right now? I mean, this is this is the model that I want to see. If we didn't wear masks at all, have we just went around living our lives and everyone doing their own cases, I'm sorry, doing their own protective measures. What would it

look like? You don't ever hear that number. You don't ever get a sense of what that number would be, because what's I think today we have I'm trying to see the latest the latest number of cases two and seven, two hundred and seventeen thousand cases roughly on December third, confirmed cases two hundred and seventeen thousand without masks, what

would that number be. I'm really curious two million, five million, you know, because if if the number without masks would be two hundred and twenty thousand or two hundred thirty thousand, um. I think they can back the blank off. I think they can leave us to heck alone because it's not enough. But they won't tell you because they don't know. Instead, what they do is they put Biden forward. And here's

my fear. You know, I've been I've been very consistent on this, and a lot of conservatives got a little hic oh. But I I like, I think I know the science. I mean, you know masking, And there are a lot of them, a lot of corporate conservatives out there who are starting to get a little week right around you know, July, when there was the surge over the summer, I saw people were getting a little Oh.

I think we should we should listen to Fauci. I'm not gonna not gonna name any names because it's you know, I think people some of them just came to it in good faith. And you know how much you mask work, I'll tell you. I don't know. We'll find out in a few years. Probably that's when they'll actually do the real studies to see and that's when you'll be able to look at do an honest compilation of the data. Maybe it's maybe it's more effective than I think it is,

but we know it's not really effective. That's what that's absolutely certain. Okay, it's it definitely isn't like I'm wearing a mask. I don't have to worry. In fact, most of the people getting infected think they're wearing a mask almost all the time they're supposed to. So what does that tell you? But I will say this, I understand the Biden hundred day order. There's a little bit of

a deviousness to this from a political standpoint. Just think about it before I tell you, think why would Biden have this renewed call for a thing we are already doing. But setting the setting the parameters at one hundred days, Well, how long is it going to take to distribute the vaccine. It will be the middle of December when they say

the first doses will come out. And if they do this the right way and they get it to senior citizens, they get it to the vulnerable population, then you're going to see within thirty days the death numbers start to go down and then as they get it out to millions more people. When and I've actually asked doctors this and people that work in the hospital system, I've said, when do you think, based on the logistics, distribution and everything else about this vaccine, when will we really see

the numbers? You know, the when will this get under control? January February March. Everyone knows that within about ninety days of the vaccine's distribution, the caseload. Because see, I do believe in science. I think the vaccine is going to work. I believe the data behind the vaccine. If you don't want to take it because you think it's got terrible side effects and everything else, that's a discussion. But I'm

telling you this. If they've put this out and they say it's ninety five out of one hundred, you're not going to get COVID. I think it's ninety five out of a hundred, you're not going to get COVID. So I do believe in the science when it actually is rooted in data. But I also understand politics. So what happens here, because we know the vaccine is going to

be the masking is not the effective tool. Vaccines will be but they want to create in the public mind a perception of masking that coincides with the curve, if you will, of the vaccine, so that all these people they're desperate to think they believe the science and they've been doing the right thing. I guarantee you and proos of mark we should mark down this show because I'm going to have to replay this in March. This one part that I'm telling you we need to mark this down.

I guarantee you. What you'll see is that as the numbers come down of infections and hospitalization and deaths going, you know, it'll start in January and then go and then get better in March. I mean, get better in February, and then in March, it'll be clear we've basically got this thing under control. As that happens, they will say that masking was a critical part of it and that they were proven it's because we listen to Biden for the hundred Days. They will conflate these two things together

because that's necessary for their narrative. They lack like, yeah, the the vaccine helped, but you know we didn't get into that many people. It's really the masking. The hundred Days of masking that did it, guaranteed, guaranteed, because so much of it is really people who just they want to think they're smart. I can't tell you how many people I come across who I know in the media blue checks were Libs, and I know they're not very bright.

I know they've managed to maneuver themselves into different jobs and positions in the media because of their background, or because you know, they know the right person, or they've leveraged identity politics. Well, you know there there are plenty of people in the media that are just straight up dumbasses, including on the right, but many more on the left, per capita. And I can just tell you this right now. They want to believe they're smart so badly, and they

want to believe it. They've been right all along on this one. And all you have to do to understand why that's unlikely, why that's unlikely to be the case, is that the fauci esque call for masking is that it's obvious and the science proves it. But he's never addressed how it could be obvious and the science proved it now, But it wasn't at the beginning when we thought this was a much more fatal disease than it

actually turned out to be. People forget that now. The initial IFR was an individual fatality rate was estimated at three to five percent, which is very close to the Spanish influenza. Yeah, much worse than what we actually have, which is more like a point they say, I think point three. I think it's probably more like point zero three or point zero zero three if you look at all the cases, cases that we miss. But nonetheless, what

dramatically change? How could something go from being obviously untrue to obviously true based on science in a period of a few months. They don't have an answer for that, do they. People don't like to think that they've been fooled, that they're not as smart as they think they are, that all of their smugness is embarrassing. So notice this, I'm telling you my prediction on this will come true. You will see it. It'll be very apparent. The vaccine

will bring this to a close. And if Biden is the president, it will be it was our vaccines and our unity around masking that got us through this. Even though as I see it here talking to you, we look at the cases, we look at the fatalities, Masking hasn't done as a policy a damn thing to stop this virus. You know it, I know it. Look at what's happening around you today. You're in the Freedom Hut.

This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Get more from Buck by following him on social media at buck Sexton on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. Do you attribute any of this surge that we're seeing in the last couple of days directly too Thanksgiving and the travel and the get

togethers that did happen. Maybe a little bit of a blip, Savannah, but we don't expect to see the full brunt of it between two and three weeks following the Thanksgiving So I think we have not yet seen the post Thanksgiving peak. That's the concerning thing, because the numbers in and of themselves are alarming, and then you realize that it is likely we will see more of a surge as we

get two to three weeks past the Thanksgiving holiday. And the thing that concerns me is that a butt's right on the Christmas holiday is people start to travel and shop and congregate. So that's the reason why we plead with them to please as best as you can. Uniform wearing of masks, keep distances as to the best possible way you can avoid crowds and congregate settings, particularly indoors. And if you are indoors in that circumstance, always wear

your mask. Where your mask, it's all this guy's got for you. Stay away from human beings. Wear your mask. You think you're gonna be able to do that? Stay away from human beings? Are you going to do that? I'm not I'm not worried about it. I'm in New York City. I go into an office every day, I'm traveling. I'm getting into strange strangers vehicles here to go to where I have to go. I'm going into crowded stores. I'm doing all these things. I'm not worried. I'm not crazy.

If I'm sick, I'm staying home. If I if I thought I had COVID, I would quarantine myself two weeks, no question, wouldn't go anywhere, right, But there are only so many precautions you can take before you're just living a life of fear. And that's what they want you to do. And understand that there will be in twenty twenty one, regardless of who the president is, there's going

to be a renaissance in this country. There's going to be a sense of relief and release that will be like the end of a war that had like a draft and a lot of us going to fight. But I'm not saying it's as it's the same as that. But I'm saying it's gonna be. There's gonna be people dancing in the streets at some point, Man, there's gonna be. It'll be almost it'll be almost as exciting as the

Biden victory for the lives in New York. Right. There will come a day when we realize this thing is behind us, and there are gonna be tremendous fights over who should get credit for it. He'll notice not a lot of talk about how it was the Trump administration that got a vaccine done in less than a year, helped bring a vaccine to market in less than a year, when usually it's four to five years, four to five years.

Could you imagine, I mean, if we had to do four years of this, I'm already thinking that I might just have to I might have to go full civil disobedience and get arrested for mask refusal. I'm I'm considering it. But see, the thing is I don't want to make anyone else. I'm polite. I don't want anyone else to worry around me. It's not about that. It's about the state mandate. It's not I have no problem with anyone wearing a mask. I don't see some wearing a mask

and think less of the number. Maybe they're right, maybe it's good for them. Maybe you know, we should. My problem is the state arresting people for it. My problem is the state determining who can and can't go about their lives, open their businesses. That's my issue. But civil disobedience, I've never really I've never really thought I had to be in a place to even consider it before. But I'm considering civil disobedience on this myself. Thanks for listening

to The Buck Sexton Show podcast. Get the latest news and information from Buck by heading to buck Sexton dot com. So how has this whole fight against COVID nineteen gone so far? What have we learned? And what should we do going forward? Critical? Absolutely central, This and the election outcome the two biggest most important stories at this juncture in America, no question about it. We got somebody with a particular and worthy point of view on this one.

He's writing a book about just what I mentioned. David Marcus, who is the New York correspondent for The Federalist. He writes the Federalist dot com, he's got a book coming out on this called Charade. I can only assume that means he's actually been paying attention to all the bs we've been subjected to. David. Good to see it. It's great to see you, Bud. So let's let's start with this. We got Biden telling us today one hundred days of masking. We got Fauci saying the same stuff that he's been

saying for nine months now, basically eight months. Now, where's your head on all of this? And you're a fellow New Yorker, So we've been through the worst of this of any place in the country. And I'm I'm actually considering I was just saying this for I'm actually considering civil disobedience for the first time my life. Like I think I actually need to get arrested over the COVID lockdowns. That's where I'm at. Yeah, look, it's pretty close to that.

And you know, we saw that happen this weekend on Staten Island. As far as the hundred day mask mandate. I mean, according to polling, some are in the neighborhood of eighty five or nine of Americans are wearing masks. You walk around New York City, they're fairly ubiquitous, even

beyond what the CDC has called for. Uh. You know, we also look back to that New New England Journal of Medicine article from the spring that really clearly made the point that in most quick interactions, the mask doesn't do any good. That that, you know, that is sort of meaningless because you need to be having a long, like four minute interaction to catch it. And that clarified by the by the authors, but it never got corrected. They never said oh no, no, no no, no, that's not true.

They said, no, you should, you should go wear your mask. So yeah, I mean, this is literally the least that Joe Biden can do. It's amazing that so many people think this is almost a revolutionary call from the would be next president, Joe Biden. It's it's almost like he's taking a page from the Fauci book, which is just keep saying the same thing and then there's no way to gauge it one way or the other. And when it doesn't work out, then just say, well, people didn't

do it well enough. Because David, I'm looking at this now day to day the data we said, we said a new you know, it's terrible, we said, a new record, unfortunately of deaths from COVID in twenty four hours in the United States. Cases over two hundred thousand a day confirmed this week. And I look around that, I say, Okay, in what world does this look like we had figured out how to stop this spread by doing all these things we've been doing. I just don't understand how anyone

can come away with that conclusion. No, I don't. I don't think you can. I mean, look, the fact is that this is an extraordinarily contagious virus. When I interviewed doctor Slowie from my book, who's the head of Operation Warp Speed, he explained to me that if you had a disease that was as infectious or contagious as COVID and as deadly as a bowl, he described that as something that would be an extinction level situation. I felt

a little child bill up my spine. Right, So, I mean, this is a very contagious disease, and you're absolutely right, our efforts to mitigate it really haven't seemed to make a whole lot of difference. And every time the government sticks its finger in a hole in the dam, the virus starts coming through something else. So it's restaurants, or it's Thanksgiving dinner, or it's the schools, and yeah, it's it's been helpless at best. So in your research for Charade,

you just mentioned you you interviewed doctor Slowie. What part of this has been Let's start with your title. What part of this do you feel has been asia? Ye, well, there there's a lot, a lot of it has The book is basically broken down into chapters where I explore um one myth in each of the chapters. So I think maybe the biggest lie or a myth of the lockdown period was we're all in it together, right, This

this sort of became the advertising slogan. This sort of became the way that politicians made us feel that, you know, we couldn't disobey them, or we were somehow, you know, harming the collective, and we were all going through it,

and obviously we weren't. I mean, I was very aware of the privileged position that I was in, being a journalist who had all basically already worked from home that I kept my income right, I even got the stimulus money, and meanwhile I'd walked to the grocery store and see food lines. We were never in this together. Another is, you know, follow the science. And as we just talked about with the mess, will I mean the science changes.

Jay Batiara, who's a Stanford Professor of Medicine at Stanford, he made the point recently that science can't operate if you have what I like to refer to as pandemic correctness. Science can only operate if everybody's ideas are able to be explored, and that clearly didn't happen. We saw that with that New England Journal of Medicine article where they were scolded and then they were cowed. Yeah. I got throttled on social media for sharing the Danish mask study

because you're only allowed to share it. And remember now they actually will shut you down for things because they claim it lacks context, which is just a fancy way of saying, we don't like your editorial bent on this, even if it's accurate, we don't like your conclusions, so we're going to say that it's not fair and offer something like this to the data. Even though it's sharing actual data. I've had to go through that, which has

been quite a truly Orwellian experience. People overuse that term, but it actually does apply here. And I just think that in New York City in particular, and some of these large urban areas across the country, David, there's been an unwillingness to question any of this because I do believe it just got wrapped up in anti Trumpism. And now I know there's still this election recount, lawsuits and

all this going on. But every Democrat I know thinks, and I know a whole bunch of them, thinks that Joe Biden is the president and this is all a joke. And they kind of look at me like, okay, so now you're going to stop pointing out the hypocrisy with the lockdowns when people who are, as you mentioned, the elites, aren't affected by this. We're not on this together. They are literally sending stay at home, don't see anybody orders from their vacation spots in Mexico, as the mayor of

Austin did, right like, don't go anywhere. I'm flying private to Mexico. I point this out still, and some of them are looking like well, no, but this isn't about Trump anymore. And I'm looking at them and saying exactly, it was never actually about Trump, you lunatics, although I usually leave the lunatics part out right. No, you're absolutely, we'd be very lucky if this was about Trump. My fear is that this is less about Trump and more about people like emberor Cuomo getting a taste of absolute

power and decided, hey, this, this tastes pretty good. And I still have an excuse to tell people that, you know, now, for ten months, I have to operate under the emergency powers that were given to me by the state legislature. That's happening all over the country, by the way, that's happening by the same people who accused Trump of being a authoritarian. I mean, what's going on? Yeah, it can't it can't be all these things we're speaking of. David Marcus,

who is the New York correspondent for the Federalists. You write to the Federalist dot com. So David, what do you think is coming? I mean, I made a prediction. I've been making a pred that you're going to see if the Biden mask mandate, which I mean, you can't fly right now without a mask they will actually not fly and they will boot you off the airline permanently. That's what they threaten to do to people, and they've actually done it, I think a few times now if

you don't mask up. So it's just adding to this. But my belief is that they're going to have that They're going to try and have this renewed sense of lockdown, and I mean that with the stay at home orders and the masking alongside vaccine distribution, and then as if we're all a bunch of idiots, they're going to turn around and say, in right right around March, when the cases God willing, I think they will are cratering and

everything's working. They'll say, see, yeah, the vaccine was kind of helpful, but it was really all those fauciesque orders that got it done. I think that's what's going to happen. It may well. And look, part of the reason that I wanted to write the book is because the history is already so skewed and so wrong about what's happened that I believe you're right that that'll continue to be

the case. The very first chapter, the very first myth that I bust in this book is this idea that January and February were wasted months by the Trump administration, that they just weren't doing anything, and then all of a sudden in March, and it's it's an absolute fabrication. As Alex Azer pointed out just the other day, it was January ninth when the nih started working with Moderna on a vaccine. To put that in perspective, that's before

China admitted that there had been a single death. That's before the World Health Organization said that there was human to human contact and that is why we have that particular vaccine today. So you know, and that was the story, right, how often did you hear that, Oh, well, Trump didn't do anything in January and February. The media just repeated it.

And it's a blatant lie. I was on show in February, as this audience knows, and was laughed at and sneered at by that audience, which happens if your conservative doesn't matter who you are, what you do, that's what then. Unfortunately, that's the deal. But you got to go into the lines then sometimes and it was because they had already decided that Trump had failed, and this was before a single American had died from COVID. He was already a catastrophic failure on COVID, So it was all baked in

before anything even happened. It didn't matter, And I think that, you know, tragically, unfortunately, from a political perspective, I think it was largely effective. I mean, this should not have even been a close election if it weren't for COVID, and here we are still counting ballots. Well, look, I think the news that just broke about Nancy Pelosi is just about the most horrible thing I can imagine a

politician doing. I mean, she just announced this morning that now because Biden is going to be president, she'll accept a smaller stimulus package. I mean, millions of people have been suffering who need that money, millions of businesses who you know, who need that support. And the fact that she's just blatantly admitting that the only reason that she wouldn't do it was because she wanted Joe Biden to be president. I mean, by to me, right, tell me

it's because cases are spiking. Say anything else, Don't blatantly tell me that you plunge people into misery for the sake of winning an election. It's it's a shocking admission. Do you think New York has had Is it fair or what would be your calculation about whether we could say New York specifically has had the worst leadership. We've certainly had the worst outcomes, but is it fair to say we've had the worst leadership during the COVID outbreak?

I don't know, Man. I was in Chicago last week, and my understanding is that they those kids haven't been back in school at all, and that it's basically like all remote, at least for the public schools. Their restaurants are and man, November in Chicago, trying to eat a steak outside under a heat lamp. Uh, that's just about over. Uh. You know, I wasn't able to manage it. But that's just about done right. Um, So that's been pretty bad. As you met in. Garcetti has been bad. Newsome hasn't

look it's a competitive category. But I'm like, you know, I'm like you. I always want to give New York number one, so we can give a number one than a But I agree with you, Garsetti. I love that with Garsetti. He says he has said the quote is canceled. Everything but podcasting which near and dear to my heart. Podcasting is an essential activity. So if you have to leave your home or take some risks for that one, okay,

good to know because he's got buddies. You know, he's got celebrity friends that want to keep doing their their podcasts and going to their studios. David Marcus, he's got a book. It's not when's it coming out, David. It comes out in March, but it's available for pre order at all the you know, Amazons and Barns of Note, you know, all the all the companies that are taking up of the world and stomping their foot on small business. So you know, I wouldn't blame anyone for waiting to

try to buy it at a bookstore. But it will be out in March. David Marcus of the Federals everyone, David, thanks so much man, have a good one. Thanks for having me.