You're in the freedom Hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Get more from Buck by following him on social media at buck Sexton on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. Welcome to the Buck Sexton Show. Friends, Honored and privilege
to have you here with me. There are only a few names that you can think of from American history that we are all supposed to that we all have some degree of reverence for right that we're supposed to believe no matter who you are, where you come from this country, you're supposed to think, well, that's a great man. There are only a few names where that is the case.
And you can start with the founding fathers, the people on Mount Rushmore, and you would add Martin Luther King Junior, and you beat some people would add I don't know, you know, they're they're a handful of these names out there that when someone says who's a great American and we can all agree on it, there are only a
handful of names that come to mind. And for a lot of people, they were at least under the impression until recently that Abraham Lincoln was one of them, that Abraham Lincoln would be free from cancel culture, that this would be a guy that we could all agree did something pretty extraordinary and wasn't perfect by any means, But at the end of the day, he was on the right side and was the commander in chief of a military that ended slavery in the United States, and that's
a pretty remarkable thing. So we tend to give him a lot of plaudits for this, and as we know,
he was assassinated afterwards for it. But Abraham Lincoln would be one of those names where you'd say, well, the greatness of what he accomplished with the ending of slavery, the greatness that he accomplished with all of this, wouldn't that then make him at least somewhat immune to these efforts to destroy historical figures based upon some perception of what they should be that's constantly changing and very new
to our current moment. But then I bring you the modern American lib the left, the Democrats, and their wokeness, their psychological disorder known as wokeness, and we have yet
another example of just how far that will go. You have Abraham Lincoln as a name that a San Francisco high school board or some kind of a committee that's looking to rename schools, and it's in San fran and they want to get rid of Abraham Lincoln's name from a school because he was I believe the quote is insufficiently committed to black lives mattering or to the matter
of black lives. Now, for the man that ordered hundreds of thousands of Americans to their deaths or to extreme pain, mutilation, being wounded on the battlefield to end slavery, to say that he was insufficiently committed to black lives mattering would seem to be the height of insanity, and it is.
But there's a reason behind all of this. So we need to start examining what's really going on in this country because we're at this point where we're told that the Democrats are calling for unity, that Joe Biden and his would be cabinet they're saying unify, and as we know, unify really means bend the need of me, do what I say, and we'll call it unity. But while they're calling for this, we also see time and again they don't particularly have any sense of unity to America as
we know it. There's something very different going on, and it usually is incremental that this happens. They start with something where we say okay, fine, you know, and this is why when there was that old dust up about about Confederate generals, I was saying, look, I'm I'm not somebody that is gonna carry in any water for the keep up some of these Confederate general's statues. Side of this brief, it's you know, it's a community decision, a
community standard. But understand this, they're coming for the founding Father's next. In fact, Donald Trump said at the time, well what about Jefferson? What about Washington? Are they gonna Are they gonna tear down those statues? There is here in New York City. I've seen this so many nights because I go for walks sometimes. Right near what is known as Columbus Circle, named for Christopher Columbus, is a
very large, very prominent statue of Christopher Columbus. There is an army of NYPD officers that are deployed in a huge circle with barricades, and they've got they've got all kinds of additional e su and vehicles deployed. It's it's crazy. And I've asked the cops. I've said, is this really because you guys are worried that one night the radical left is just going to show up and destroy this statue of Christopher Columbus, And they said, yes, absolutely, that
is why we are deployed here. And this is in one of the ritzier parts of New York City. It's outside the Time Warner Center. So even Deblasio realizes this would get some attention. But they say that Columbus was a genocidal essentially a genocidal maniac who was engaged in the exploitation of humanity and so on and so forth. They don't care that we celebrate Columbus for discovering the new World for Europe and the rest of the world.
They don't care about that. That's not enough. And as we see with Abraham Lincoln, it's not enough that he was the commander in chief and the president who led us into war, a war that did end slavery in this country, and that he called for the reading of the slaves during that war. What's really happening here. There is an essay that I came across. I've never I've never even heard of this publication before, and I haven't
heard of this author before. But I thought this essay was extraordinary, and I read constantly of the commentary all over the web, and I'm always looking to see who's worth reading because most of it, ninety percent of what's published on the internet, even by so called conservatives or whatever it is, really it's repetitive. It's an echo chamber. It's just not worth spending much time on, at least for me as someone who's reading this stuff all day long.
This was really good. It was at unheard dot com and the author is Matthew Crawford, who is a fellow at the Institute for Advanced Studies in Culture at the University of Virginia. The title is How Race Politics Liberated the Leads And this is absolutely top notch analysis. It's phenomenal. Really, it's a really really strong piece. And here let me give you some of what we're talking about here and why this I think defines our current moment for the
Democrat Party and for the left. The idea of a common good, this is a quote from the piece, has given way to a partition of citizens along the lines
of a moral hierarchy. Instead of feeling bound up in a shared fate with one's country a countryman, one develops an alternate, alternate solidarity that is placeless, the relatability across national borders that the genteel folk feel in one another's company, the gracious ease and trust, the shared points of reference in high prestige opinion has something to do with their uniformly high standing in the moral hierarchy that divides citizen
from citizen within their own nations. The decision making class has discovered that it enjoys the mandate of Heaven, and with this comes certain permissions, certain exemptions from democratic scruple. This is spot on, this is excellent. He's talking about how in our country now, because America, I mean, the short version of this is that because America, according to the left now is inherently racist and misogynist, it gives
the elites. It gives this ruling class a mentality that they owe no allegiance to that entity, to America, at least to the idea, to the ideals of traditional America. They have something better, They're working for something better, and so there's no need for them to debase themselves by pretending that our flag wave jingo waistic, we love the founding fathers in the Constitution nonsense, should in any way slow their role. They get to do whatever they want.
They know better, you see, they're above it. But this is a version of something I've said to you many times before. There are those of us who take tremendous pride in being American, and then there are those of us who take pride in believing we are better than America, and those are called liberals. Those are leftists. That's what
they are, that's how they think. The reason that they're constantly encouraging the most toxic identity politics, racial politics, gender politics, the reason they do this is because they've adopted a philosophy that America is actually bad, that there's this moral rot at the center of this country. They've identified it. It's almost like they stumble upon some secret knowledge and now they're spreading this rate wisdom to all the rest
of us. And anyone who rejects this, anyone who sees this for the intense hypocrisy that it is, is shouted down. Part of the patriarchy, part of the racist, misogynistic system. And also it gives the people at the top a total pass for not working for what we think of as the common good, not working for what we consider to be universal American values. They can live their lives. This is why they can fly on private jets to climate change conferences where they're going to talk about how
you should be. You know, walking three miles or biking ten miles to work every day can put all that co two in the air. Well, they're above you, you see, they're working for this better world, this better place. You are part of this traditional America that's just so racist and misogynistic and so awful. So this goes way beyond, even way beyond the usual liberal hypocrisy. This is a kind of religion of elites excellence, and they are devotees of it. And they also get to think of themselves
as great heroes for standing up for the oppressed. I mean, how many of you does this sound like your smug neighbor who has a big Biden Harris sign in their yard, right? Don't they always think that they're somehow so morally enlightened, even if their own personal choices are really crappy, and even if they don't really care about other people or help them very much. But they stand for equality. In fact, these days, they stand for equity the preferred term which
is just the quality of outcome, which is Marxism. Back into this piece for a second quote. In the Revolt of the Elites, Christopher Lash spelled out in greater detail the role that claims of racial and sexual oppression play in securing release from allegiance to the nation, not just for those who identify as its victims, but for those with the moral sensitivity to see victimization where it may not be a parent, and who make this capacity a
touchstone of their identity. It becomes a token of moral elevation by which we recognize one another and distinguish ourselves from the broader run of citizens. Both Lash and Hannah Arrant argue that black Americans serve a crucial function for the white bourgeoisie as the emblem in proof of America's illegitimacy.
They anchor a politics of repudiation in which the idea of a common good has little purchase end quote, saying, all those elitist, white, college educated liberal Democrats out there, the libs who are always talking about racism, they don't do anything to solve racism. They don't spend any time in black majority neighborhoods. They don't really know what's going on within the black community, but they love pointing out the racism all around them all the time, even where
there's no actual racism. Sometimes they do this because by demeaning traditional America American values, by saying that this place is racist and wrong and evil, they're not bound by the generally held conceptions of what makes a good American citizen these days, because they know better. They're above it, they're elevated beyond it. Doesn't this all sound exactly like the ethos the modern philosophy of a democrat. Don't you
all have friends that are just like this. They've never actually been in a high crime, majority minority neighborhood for more than a couple of hours or maybe driving through it, But they want to give you lectures about BLM. That's right, they want to lecture you about BLM from their million dollars house in an all white suburb. These are the kind of libs we're talking about here, the ones who are frauds, the ones who are fakes. How do they get away with this in their own minds? This is
how they don't take pride in being Americans. They think they are better than America, They know better than America, and they want to transform this place in this image and that's what we are facing now going forward. Thanks for listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Get the latest news and information from Buck by heading to Bucksexton dot com. How Race Politics Liberated the Elites by Matthew Crawford. Unheard dot com is the site. And I just I
thought this was a fascinating analysis. And I like to give people credit when they do something like this that really advances the conversation. Other people just like to rip people off and pretend it's theres no want. I want.
Matthew Crawford get the high five he deserves for this, and he goes on, and I think we have to remember there's a another way to prove this analysis or this line of thinking, the legitimacy, the integrity of this philosophical approach, because it's not only in America that this
actually has now spread. It's gone beyond American borders. So you'd think that the left's unique revulsion at the longstanding history of slavery in this country and then Jim Crow and segregation, and you know, they say that they're they're confronting that even today. That's what the left will tell you. But yet there are BLM protests in London, in Paris,
in Germany, and the author points this out. This illegitimacy transcends any particular historical facts about slavery and segregation, and indeed transcends America, as one can surmise by the ease with which American grievance politics have been exported throughout the
Western world. In this we sometimes see the use of historical American references that have been weirdly transposed, as when a house once lived in by Rosa Parks was relocated from Detroit to Berlin, the financial seat of the European Union. Under the Empire of Christendom. The market for material relics
from the Passion of the Christ was similarly global. They left the Holy Land that ended up in various seats of earthly power, most recently the Transatlantic Festival of George Floyd attests to the fact that it isn't simply America that stands accused the social order is corrupt. Then the labor movement once had an alternative order to offer in its stead, drawing on the socialist tradition. It was one that included African Americans, not as African Americans, but as workers,
and this movement was fairly successful. What happened then. The prominence of the term repressed in the nineteen sixties is significant and marks a shift into a new terrain of psy psychologized politics. The object of attack for the new left was no longer leis a fair capitalism, but society, the Freudian super ego more or less, with its insistence on standards of behavior that are binding on all society, is to be taken as inherently oppressive and discredited in
the name of liberation. Effectively, America is so oppressive, racist, evil, gender discriminatory. It's such a bad place that the left can completely rewrite the rules of what we should be trying to achieve in this country. And on a personal level, they feel no particular allegiance to traditional America, and they feel like their actions are always justified because they're working for this greater, idealized future. Isn't this every lib you know?
Isn't this every smug Biden voter you've come across in the last year or so. I'm sure there are some exceptions, but I'm betting it's most of them. Just to finish this up quote, if the ideal of a demoralized public sphere was a signature aspiration of liberal secularism. It seems we have entered a post secular age. Populism happened because it became widely noticed that we have transition from a liberal society to something that more closely resembles a corrupt theocracy.
End quote. Yeah, this is the religion of the elites we are talking about. You're in the freedom hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast from More Bucked Head to Bucksexton dot com and remember to subscribe to the podcast. I've been saying for four years now that it's a certainty that Barack Obama, when he was president, knew that his administration on the way out was running essentially a spying and and disinformation campaign against the incoming Trump administration.
It's obvious there's no way that Komey and Brennan and Clapper and go down the list, There's no way that they would have been able to that they would have felt comfortable doing this stuff if they didn't feel like ultimately they had cover from Obama for it, that he had at least been informed. And you'd say, well, how does that protect them? They would say, they went through
chain of command. This is how bureaucracies avoid accountability. No one is ever really accountable for anything because everyone's accountable for everything. That's the way they do it. So they just say, well, I didn't I approved this FISA, but somebody else wrote up the FISA. Well I wrote up the FISA, but somebody else provided the raw material of the raw information I used for the FISA. Well I approved it, but somebody else was supposed to review it. Right,
So no one ever really gets nailed. But they all know what they're doing, right. They're all part of what is almost like a federal government racketeering operation. You know, that's that's what you see happening here. They're all they're all a part of it. You want to bring like a Rico charge against them because it's a multi layered conspiracy, and that is exactly what Russia collusion was. And I understand right now there's frustration because the Durham probe has
not resulted and even a report. And I knew it wasn't going to happen on a timeline for the election, because ultimately, guys like Durham, guys like Bill Barr, they understand the politics involved here and they're not they for whatever, for their own reasons, for their own ethical choices and decisions. They will not bend the rules to be more political.
They won't do it. They also maybe won't allow the other side to get away with doing it, but they themselves will not will not bend the rules in order to score political points. So they weren't going to accelerate the Durham probe, That's what I'm telling you. But now it's it's been designated as a special counsel, and as we know, the Democrats will just say, oh, who cares, We'll get rid of that. As soon as there's a Biden,
a Biden presidency. It will be more difficult, though, and it will give us something to work with and perhaps even escalate to where the Republicans are talking about impeachment. And I'm just gonna say this, I believe in using all the tactics and all the stratagems that the left engaged in against Trump, I think that we should hold them to their standards going forward, Which means the bar for a Joe Biden, Joe Biden presidency, for impeachment for
special counsel, it's very low, very low. They told us with that phone call, that Trump had with his Ukrainian counterpart. If that can get you impeach Joe Biden better watch his step the moment the Republicans take back the House majority, and I'm not going to stand in their way. I'm gonna be cheering them on, saying up, let's go for it. What's good for one side good for the other. The only way to make them think twice about the kinds of underhanded tactics they use is to make them live
by those tactics. It's the only way. Now, let's get back to what the former president Obama knew and hat tip Shan Davis of the Federalist dot Com for this piece. D and I declassifies handwritten notes from John Brennan twenty sixteen CI referral on Clinton campaign's collusion operation. Here's what
he writes. Quote. On Tuesday, Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe declassified and released to Congress handwritten notes from CI director Brennan, as well as a CIA investigative referral to James Coomey and Peter Struck requesting that they investigate Russian
knowledge of Hillary Clinton's anti Trump collusion smear operation. He goes on top us intelligence officials were so concerned heading into the twenty sixteen election that the Russians were aware of and potentially manipulating Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton's plans to smear Donald Trump as a Russian agent that they
personally briefed President Barack Obama on the matter. Newly declassified Central Intelligence Agency documents show SI officials also requested that the FBI investigate Russian knowledge of the Clinton campaign's collusion smear operation. Newly declassified handwritten notes from the former CI director John Brennan show the US intelligence community knew in twenty sixteen that Russian intelligence was actively monitoring and potentially
injecting disinformation into Clinton's anti Trump collusion narrative. The intelligence concerning Russia's knowledge of Clinton campaign plans was so concerning to Brennan and other national security officials that they personally informed Obama of the matter in the Oval Office in the summer of twenty sixteen. These are handwritten notes from CI Director Brennan, So they were telling the as an event, Barack Obama. They were telling him, Yeah, there's Russian disinformation
stuff going on here. We got real concerns about this, but you know, maybe we could also use this, maybe we run with this. See, that's what the decision was. This would be something like if a person came in and said, you know, I know, I know that, you know, John my neighbor assassinated, not John Wilkes Booth, obviously, John
my neighbor assassinated Abraham Lincoln. I mean, you could walk into a into a police station and you know, there's no statute of limitations on murder, so you know, they would usually say, okay, let's a normal reaction would be let's take this person for psychological evaluation, or maybe you just ignore them and say get out of here, buddy.
But it's not always the case that people will act ethically when they're presented with information that a normal analysis would tell them is absurd, And so it also provides an opportunity for the unscrupulous. They can use that as the basis for an investigation. That's exactly what they did in Russia Gate. All this stuff was being said, all
these rumors. They had no real evidence at all, and there was Russian disinformation out there, and they figured, well, what if we just rely on the Russian disinformation and pretend that we believe it, and maybe we do a little bit, but not really, but maybe and then we
start monitoring, investigating spying on the Trump campaign. Right, this would be like your neighbor John all of a sudden has police officers banging on his doors saying, we have a you know, we have a report that you assassinated Abraham Lincoln. They could do that, right, I mean they could say that. I mean, and maybe in that case the case was never opened. It's not their jurisdiction, but you get what I'm saying, right, I mean, you know,
they could They could come to you. And if you were accused of a murder in California when you were actually in Omaha, Nebraska, and the police knew that, they could still continue the investigation of you, they could still say, well, you know, it's not totally not totally proven yet, but we rely at some level on good faith operations from people who have this kind of power. If you're willing to abuse good faith, you can find a justification to
investigate anyone you want, for anything you want. And that's exactly what Obama and all the clowns around him did. Now we know Obama knew about this, and Obama never spoke out. He would have known that there was Russian disinformation that the Russians were actively trying to lie about Trump to get this whole story of stealing the election and Trump working with the Russians. He would have known that it was all out there. Did he ever speak
out about this? Obama, right, the great patriot, the guy who loves the country so much. I mean, if you read the reviews of his most recent auto biography, because I think he's got four now, at least three, you're either reviews. I've never seen such sycophantic rantings from people who at least ostensibly make a living from telling people important truths that they may not want to hear in the media. Right, They don't really make a living doing that, but that is that is what they say. They love
Obama in a way they've never loved any politician. The Democrats and the mainstream Democrat Party and its elites and intelligentsia think that Barack Obama is really above human not quite a god, but not quite a human being either. He's something even more special than that. And they were never going to push him on. Why didn't you, out of love for your country, come forward and say, hey, guys, this stuff about Trump being a Russian trader. It really
is really not it's really not true. We should say, there's a lot of other reasons that we as Democrats don't like this guy, but that's not what No, of course he was island about it. Pretend that you didn't know anything about it. No, no, no, you know, it's just the intelligence community. Man, there's no politics here. It's just the IC doing what they do. That's what they tell us, that's what they claim. It's all a lie.
We are heading into this period in American politics where I think they hope, the left and the Democrats hope that they can bend us to their will about what we even remember that the brainwashing will extend well beyond their most ardent supporters to people who are just trying to keep up with what's going on and they are overwhelmed by the propaganda machine. So let me just tell you right now. Let's get this for our purposes on
the record, so we can remember this. Barack Obama knew about the Russia collusion smear against Trump, almost certainly ordered it to escalate. He definitely knew about it, and he did nothing to stop it. As completely unethical political assassin. Democrats went after the Trump administration with this lie for years. It is the worst political scandal of my lifetime. It's
a disgrace. And all this stuff about respect our democracy and give up Trump and all this other stuff is coming from people who do not give a crap about the ideals or the rules or the aspirations enshrined in the Constitution and in the history of this republic. They could care less about any of that. They're all exercise of power. Me me, me, I want mine, I'm right, I'm a lib You be quiet. The media agrees with me. That is how they view all of this, So get
ready for that going forward. Don't expect any good faith operations from their side. They feel like they largely got away with this, which means they'll try similar stuff in the future. And the only way that we can push back is by shouting the truth in their faces and refusing to bend when they try to coerce us with even more lies. You're in the freedom Hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Get more from Buck by following him on social media at Buck Sexton on Facebook, Twitter,
and Instagram. As we've been talking here, it's hardly a profile. Encourage from McConnell come out and say this. Now, his delay has had a real world impact and been physically dangerous for some people around the country, which we'll talk about over the course of this broadcast. What what's seeing it? What kind of craziness is seeing n saying now that's been physically dangerous? What's going ahead that is physically dangerous?
The people for mccadal to that, No, it's not. The guy hadn't been declared the president by the Electoral College. That's when he's the president elect. You know what's next, The meeting's going to say, you have to declare the winner of the presidency before the actual election happens. Look at the polls, man, look at the polls. Well, that's not how it works, is it. As we know, you
better not trust those polls. Just remember this. Look at look at just a series of issues from from recent times, whether it is on this election, or it's on the BLM movement, the renaming of statues, police reform, all of these issues. The people that try to try to bend the knee to the left in the hope that this will bring them closer to our side and will open dialogue and the Democrats will all of a sudden respond
in good faith. They're always disappointed because when they're making outlandish demands or they're they're basing their whole argument in lies, in misrepresentations, And you say, okay, okay, but they're so angry about this, Fine, we'll give them. It's like it's like giving a child throwing a tantrum what he wants. It's not going to get better now they know. Oh, okay, so we just we just throw another tantrum. Great, Okay, we can do that again. This is the only way
you can deal with the left. You you make overtures to the Democrats when it is in our interests and within our principles, and when it shows good faith from their side. That's it. You don't do it because you hope they'll be less crazy once you've given them something they want. That never works. Oh, you're just encouraging the encouraging the monster. That's all you're doing, all right. Mitch McConnell said, calls Biden president elect the day of the
electoral College vote being held. Do they say, all right, good for Mitch McConnell that, you know, No, of course not. They hate Mitch McConnell. They hate their Republicans. It's how are they a per valid courage? And people are data? I know Stelter and Berman apparently sound the same, but they do kind of sound the same. How are they a per valid courage? What was he supposed to do? Why call him president elect Biden before he's actually formerly
the president elect? This is a United States senator. There were legal challenge making their way through the court. There still are legal challenges making their way through the courts. But you see, it's it's not enough. They tell you right now, admit that they're Just say Biden is a president and tell us that there was no fraud. We can all be friends. Just say that there wasn't fraud and that Biden really won one fair and square, no
cheating whatsoever. Will like you, then, I guarantee you if you do that, if you were to profess to you know, your co workers, or if you were to say online as someone you're having a debate over politics, if you know what, you're right. Biden didn't that there wasn't cheating to help him win. There was no fraud. This was totally fair. And they'll say, ha ha, you lost, You suck. It's all It's all over for you. You you know, you dumb trumper. Like they don't they don't want to
be fair minded to you at all. So when they pretend that that's where this is coming from, it's a trap. It's a trap. It's the guy who you walk past on the street. It is just, hey, madam, I'm having a really hard time here, and you know, I just I just could you can you just give me a dollar? I swear, I just I need a dollar for bus fare,
and you know then I'll be fine. And you say all right, buddy, and you go for a wallet and he goes no, and he pulls out a knife, and he says, I'll just take your wallet, thanks so much. That's how the Democrats play this game. Do not forget it. But also don't forget that Trump's not going anywhere either way. They're starting to realize it's with two even Romney knows at play eighteen. Well, I think President Trump will continue
to have substantial influence on the party. And I think if you look at the people who are rumored to be thinking of running in in twoy twenty four, besides the President, those are people who are trying to appeal to kind of a populist approach. So I don't think Trump is m is going away, but I hope that we can have disagreements over policy and vision of our respective parties without continue to promote a narrative which puts
democracy itself in jeopardy. And when you tell people that voting doesn't work and the democracy can't work because we don't have legitimate elections, that's a very dangerous thing to be saying. No one says that democracy doesn't work. I mean, now he's just creating strawmen. We're saying that when Democrats change major rules in an election to create mail in balloting, which which leaves the door wide open for fraud. And then there's all these really sketchy numbers and all these affidavits.
We got questions and we want answers. Oh, but why are you threatening our democracy? Democrats? We're arguing for faithless electors in twenty sixteen. Do you remember that the Democrats were arguing for the election to be nullified in twenty sixteen? You're in the freedom Hut. This is the buck Sexton Show podcast from more buck Head to Bucksexton dot com and remember to subscribe to the podcast just for your
viewers out there. I know one of the individuals who we just saw getting vaccinated is planning on traveling after the second dose. This is a source of confusion. But no, this is one of the misperceptions here. Just because you get vaccinated with that second dose does not mean you should be participating in things like traveling in the middle of an out of control pandemic, or that you're liberated
from masks. Everything still applies until all of us get the two dose regiment, and we don't think that's going to happen until June July. And again, this goes back to what we just talked about, Chuck. We don't know if just getting the vaccination prevents serious illness or does it also prevent you from getting infection entirely, meaning you can still get infected with the virus potentially and pass it on to others. So really, really critical, don't let
your guard down just because you got vaccinated. You still might be able to get affect with the virus and pass on others, So please keep that in mind. So there's a lot they don't know, and the response to what they don't know is you can't have basic liberties and freedoms back. You can't live your life because they don't know. So let's just air on the side of continued isolation, depression, destruction of small businesses, still at least next summer, until the virus is zero. None of us
are safe. None of us are safe. This mentality is outrageous. Unfortunately, it is the consensus mentality among the elites, among democrats, among social media giants. They will censor you, as they have done to me for even questioning this. We've got another buddy, though, who also questions it and sees the damage, the devastation across the country and in his hometown area of Boston. Jerry Callahan is with us now. He is
the host of the Jerry Callahan Podcast, longtime Boston radio legend. Jerry, thanks for joining us. Hey, Buck, how's it going. I'm all right, man, but I'm worried because I think that the lockdown left is already showing us that they have they have no intention of letting us start to go back to normal life until at least next summer, and
others are saying until this time next year already. And it seems to me that no matter how much we can show that the data doesn't support some of the things they're doing, and what they're doing is catastrophic for millions of people who are going bankrupt, their businesses are going under. They just don't seem to carry Jerry. They think they've got all the answers. No, it is frightening bucket. It's getting worse. And today on my podcast, we developed
we came up with a new word. We've heard of Karen's. We all know what a Karen is. Well, now we have guptas. Guptas are cable TV doctors who don't ever want this to end, who are literally telling us you will not be liberated. I mean, that's kind of a scary word. It should be at least that we're not going to liberate you from all these restrictions and these rules, and you're gonna have to continue wearing a mask, and you're gonna have to stay out of restaurants and bars
and and don't travel. I mean, he literally says, you're not gonna be able to travel even after you get the vaccine. Well, what is the point of the vaccine. It's it's bizarre. And I think you and I have agreed on this for a while now that they're just they're never going to let this go. They're going to continue to try to keep us under their control forever. Well, that's that's where I wanted to go next, because I think that we should establish a kind of philosophical understanding
right now of what we're actually facing here. Because let's just say, for example, that we were to listen to everything that these various blue check mds who go on on the different cable channels to doctor Fauci, who I honestly think is a disaster, and just I don't know if he's not that bright, I don't know what his problem is. His judgment is horrible. I think it's more
than he's a coward, actually than he's dumb. But you look at where this all goes, Jerry, and the moment that we start seeing stories in let's say may Or and about you know, there's gonna be some relaxation. The cases are way down. We've got you know, fifty million Americans vaccinated, one hundred million Americans vaccinated. I can almost see right now you're gonna see stories about but what about mutations? What about COVID twenty what about COVID twenty one?
We have to keep these things. You know ready to go here because the moment, and then I think people will realize that if there's a zero risk to your health standard that these people can enforce and shut down your business and keep you away from relatives on the holidays. If that's the standard, they can use that standard going
forward for other things too. And just once they're done with the mutations of the virus, you know, and I know what we're moving on to, and John Kerry will be leaving the way, It'll be we have to do these things to control climate change. It's for your own good. And I'm telling you, I don't know if you agree with me on this book because you're in New York City. I'm in Boston. I'm kind of disappointed in the level of compliance and the just the the docile submission of
so many people. I'm out every day, I'm running or walking the dog. And when I'm by myself, I'm not wearing a mask because why would I Let me tell you everybody else's they are all going along with this, and they're accepting these measures even if they make no sense. See I'm it's one thing if they tell you you must do whatever because of this reason, and they give it and they explain it. Well, here's what happened yesterday in Boston. The mayor shut all gyms for the next
three weeks. I mean they've already been living with all kinds of restrictions and you know, limited hours in space, and he just said we're going to close all gyms for three weeks. And you know what the reason is. He didn't have one. He literally does not have one. They're not a hotspot, they're not a vector. I could give you the numbers. It's unbelievable. They do not there's no evidence that the the virus is transmitted in gyms. He just said, we're locking you down because that's what
we did last time. We did a lockdown, and we're going to follow that protocol. So he puts people out of work, puts people out of business essentially ten days before Christmas, and doesn't really give them a reason. And if that doesn't outrage I mean it should outrage everyone as much as it does me and you. And it doesn't and that I don't know. That just bothers me. Well, one thing I think, and we're speaking to Jerry Callaghan. He is the host of Jerry Callahan podcast, Long Time
Boston radio legend, Jerry. You know, we've had a couple of things coinciding here. One is that the lockdown left turn this into a kind of anti Trump thing, that this was about, that there was this political separation. And that's why I'm running around now saying forget about Trump, for this isn't about Trump. This is about freedom. This is about what's true. This is about free discourse and
individual liberty and businesses that should be surviving. And and there's still this mentality I think of, oh no, but that's what trumpers say or something has nothing to do in my mind, this has nothing to do with Trump. This is about what's true and what's happening around us. And then there's also the most concerted suppression campaign I've
ever seen in social medium. And I've been formally reprimanded by the social media giants for sharing CDC studies, for sharing things that I just say, well look at this. Doesn't this raise the following questions? And they'll put these, you know, fact checks that aren't actually checking any facts. They just say, well, this lacks context, Doctor Fauci said. Otherwise, Oh I'm sorry. So so now if doctor Fauci says
something it's a fact check. That's fascinating because he told us at the beginning of the pandemic, when this was considered to be far more dangerous actually by the individual case fatality that it was don't wear masks. That was Faucci this year. But now he's a one man fact check. Oh, that's fascinating. He told us on March nine, Buck, don't
hesitate to go on a cruise. Doctor Faucci told us to go ahead, you go ahead, go on a cruise, have fun and by the way, go on tinder and fine love if you're If that's what you're looking for. Doctor Fauci gave you his blessing, and we know he's been wrong about everything, and yet you can't challenge him. It is bizarre, and to me, it is it flies in the face of you know what we see every
day on the streets. I'm walking around, you're walking around, You're seeing these restaurants and businesses and gym's just closed up,
boarded up, gone forever. So you try to point out this real ancillary effects here, this this real collateral damage, and it's like, yeah, but um, you know it's a virus or you know, people they give you the number three thousand dead, and you say, but do you know how many people are unemployed or on drugs or alcohol, or their business is destroyed, And it's it's almost irrelevant. They don't want to hear it. They just say, yeah,
but the virus. It's like the only thing that matter is when your your eyeballs tell you that there's a lot of other things going on that just are really really bad for for society as a whole. What are you seeing in Boston about this, because in New York we've had a couple of people and in New Jersey too. In New Jersey there's analyst Jim. They've been telling everyone they got a one point two million dollars and counting uh finds from the city and from the state of
New Jersey. In New York, we had this this pub and restaurant on Staten Island where the guys wouldn't shut down even though they were told they were in the red zone or the orange zone or whatever it was. And all those babies, Pete Davidson and I say, those there are a bunch of babies. But go ahead, yeah, I heard that guy. It's it's nice if you're in media and making a ton of money and can work remotely and or you know, not have to worry about
a paycheck at all. That you get to just tell people that are losing their business is losing you know, decades of work in some cases. And the other thing that I would say, Jerry, is that when we see this, the chance that any one individual restaurant is a real problem in this pandemic, based on New York City's official numbers, is very very low. They say they think there's one percent of the spread they can trace to restaurants. One percent.
We're shutting down ten thousand restaurants. Set I believe, go ahead. It's much like the gyms. They don't like they had Antilles gym they have zero. They've had zero members test pausitive, and they've had something like a million visits since they opened up illegally. But you're right, restaurants, it's like one percent. Gyms, it's much much less than one percent. So again, they're telling you to do things that make no sense. It's one thing to tell you to do something, it's another
thing to not give you a reason. It's the same thing here. They came up with these new rules because there was a spike, and we know that most of the cases are at home or nursing homes or hospitals. So they decide, you know, here's an idea. Let's make everyone go home and get out of the restaurants and get out of the gyms. And here, yesterday the restaurants
were already operating and limited capacity. Yesterday they closed all bar seating, no reason given, just we decided we have to do something here to make it look like we're trying to protect you from the evil virus. So we're not going to let people sit at the bar anymore. And they're just gonna keep coming up with new measures until every damn restaurant is gone. I mean it's and the last number I saw it was five thousand restaurants in the state, restaurants and bars that have gone under.
It's obviously higher in New York and across the country. And it doesn't seem to affect these you know, these these public officeholders who risk nothing, who sacrificed nothing. They just sit there in their office and say, you know what, I'm just gonna put another thousand people out of business and put another countless thousands of people out of work before Christmas, and they don't. They don't bet an eye.
It's remarkable. It is, Jerry Callahan, I'm with you on this stuff, man, keep the faith and hold strong up there in Boston. Go check out the Jerry Callahan podcast where if you listen to podcasts. Jerry, thanks so much for joining us man, We appreciate it. Thanks Buck, good talking to you.