Buck Escapes To Florida

with thousands and thousands of folks. Florida for a New Yorker right now is the closest thing I think you can have as an American to fleeing East Berlin for West Berlin circa nineteen sixty five. You get down here and there's mask requirements. You get down here and there are people who are taking precautions, they're social distancing, but there's a difference in overall feeling where you're going forward with your life. You're gonna you're gonna keep operating your store,

You're gonna keep showing up for work. People are going to keep moving forward, and it's just such a difference. It's amazing feeling it all around you. You You see it going on, and I gotta tell you, I'm I feel like I worked for the Florida Tourism Board every time I come down here. But Ron de Santists deserves so much credit for this. Has done such an excellent job and in the face of unbelievable pressure and criticism, let's seepac. I'll have more stories for you tomorrow on this one.

Right now, it's just the very very beginnings of it. President Trump, former President Trump, pardon me, will be appearing here and talking about the future of the GOP. So there's a lot that we'll have to discuss about this, But I wanted to start with racism and fake racism and how fake racism can ruin lives. Now. I went to a college called Amherst. Amherst is in central Massachusetts.

I bring this up because it is very left wing, but not as left wing as some of the other schools in the neighborhood, notably Hampshire College, UMass Amherst, which is an entirely different school for who doesn't know that's a state school for the University of Massachusetts, and Smith College. I know quite a bit about Smith College because I had a girlfriend who was a Smith attendee, and I can tell you that Smith is like living in an

alternate universe. Smith College in Northampton, Massachusetts is the most far left place I think I've ever been in my life. And that includes somebody. That's somebody who grew up in New York City and has lived in Greenwich Village and has lived in Washington, DC, which voted ninety four percent for Joe Biden this last time around. Smith is all

the campus lunacy that we talk about. It's like it's concentrated in one place, and it's the center now of a national level story over race and class and wokeness. And this reminds me very much of some of the similar situations that happened while I was a student there. Now going on twenty years ago, it's been quite a while since I was at Amherst College, at a little stint at the CIA popped into a rock and Afghanistan started a media career. Thank you Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh,

and now here I am. But I remember what it was like at Smith back in the day. I remember how ideologically driven so many people were, and it was really the totalitarianism of wokeness that we're experiencing every day that was only in places like Smith twenty years ago, to the extent that you're seeing it now, where it doesn't matter what the facts are. It doesn't actually matter what the truth of any situation may be. What matters is does this help the cause? It is very Soviet

in a sense. I mentioned before what it's like to travel from east to West Berlin or the closest thing to it for an American today, and that is going from a lockdown, a core lockdown place like New York City and finding yourself in Florida. I'm an Orlando obviously for seedpac But the Soviet Union was a place where

the truth didn't matter, the facts didn't matter. There was the storyline that the people in power demanded, and if you deviated from it, you well, in that case, of course, could be sent to the Gulag, you could be executed. I mean, it was worse than it is here. I'm not saying it's the same, but the mentality is similar. And the erosion of freedom that we've had, really the threat to freedom, the damage to freedom that has occurred in the last year in America is unlike anything else

we've ever experienced. So I do think it's legitimate. I do think it's fair for us to sit around and say, hold on a second, how much more of this can we take before we are crossing that rubicon? And have we already crossed it? In somebodys Are we on a glide path now toward a near totalitarian state? I know it's a scary thought. And you could say, oh, that's We're still a country with rule of law, and we're still a country where things, you know, you still have

constitutional protection. How long are you going to have that for? Do we really think that that just injuries? You really think that that continues no matter who's in charge, who's in power. In fact, if you look at the totalitarianisms of the twentieth century, they arose out of periods of liberal reform. They arose from democracies. People didn't expect it to happen in the Soviet Union. The didn't expect it to happen in Nazi Germany, or rather they didn't know

what was going to happen. I think of the Soviet Revolution, people they don't study it in school. I mean, I really believe that, you know, academics want Americans to be ignorant of socialism and the history of socialism throughout the twentieth century, obviously starting with Karl Marx went well before them, but then into the twentieth century totalitarianisms, because if you know about these things, you're terrified of them and you

want to fight them with everything you've got. If you understand what it is from history to live in a society where the truth does not matter, then you understand how much you have to fight to prevent us from descending into that. And that then brings me to the Soviet style absurdity of what happened at Smith College. Now I know this place well. I can tell you that there are there are dorms there, There are dormitories that are segregated by sexual preference and by or sexual orientation

or whatever we're supposed to say. Now to the point where you'd think, well that that can't be that complicated, well it actually does get very complicated very quickly, because there are a lot of different preferences and a lot of different self identifications that go into it. I could not even begin to tell you how many different sexual orientations are represented on the Smith College campus. I'm being serious.

I have absolutely no idea because there are so many and they're constantly changing, right there are new ones that come up, and you're not allowed to you're not allowed to say, hold on a second, is that is that good? Is that healthy? Is that moral? You can't ask any of those questions. If you do, you're a bigot. You're a bigot. You see, the the wokeness has been weaponized in our society. That's what you're experiencing now. The terms that they've been building up over many years, the frameworks

for assaulting people verbally, professionally destroying their lives. They've gotten stronger, they've gotten more, and now they feel flush with power. Now they feel like they can get away with whatever they have to, whatever they need to. And we're experiencing that right now, and we don't have a particularly powerful counter voice. We don't have somebody who can step up and say enough. It feels like there's a void on

our side. And yes, that is certainly a large part of it is the absence of Rush Limbaugh right now. So I understand the concerns that people have. I understand the feeling that we seem like we can't win this fight. But we can. We will. First though, we have to establish what it is that's going on, and that brings me back to Smith College specifically. Inside this is the New York Times piece Inside a battle over race, class and power at Smith, a student said she was racially

profiled while eating in a college dorm. An investigation found no evidence of bias, but the evidence, but the incident will not fade away. That headline gives you a pretty good overview of what happened at Smith College. But here's a shorter, better version of it. A black female student at Smith claimed there was racism when there was no racism, even went so far as to lie about who was

even involved in the alleged incident. Ruined lives, got people threatened, people's people's livelihoods destroyed, and there was absolutely absolutely no consequences or punishment for her whatsoever. The only people who suffered were the innocent. The only people who had any downside in this whole situation were those who did nothing wrong, including thirty plus year employees of this college. Overrun by

psycho libs, completely destroyed by wokeness. And it's really a perfect example of what the modern American college campus is.

And I want you all to think about this before you get to the point where you're going to send your child, send your son, your daughter to a now seventy thousand dollars a year boondoggle at a place like Smith it is an unseerious place ethically, intellectually, the same thing as true of Amer's College, where I went, by the way, unserious places hard to get into academically for some people, not as hard for others. That's a whole other conversation. In fact, not hard at all, depending on

who you are. But how did a completely innocent person get destroyed at Smith College? How did fake racism ruin lives? Well, that's the story we have to tell now. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Follow fuck on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. Here's the tale from the New York Times story by Michael Powell in the midsummer of twenty eighteen, Umu Kanuete, a black student at Smith College, recounted a

distressing American tale. She was eating lunch and a dorm lounge when a janitor and a campus police officer walked over and asked her what she was doing there. The officer, who could have been carrying a lethal weapon, left her near meltdown. These are quotes from a Miss Kanawate wrote on her Facebook saying this encounter continued a year long pattern of harassment at Smith. All I did was b black.

Kanoete wrote, It's outrageous that some people question my being at Smith College and my existence overall as a woman of color. The college's president, Kathleen McCartney, offered profuse apologies and put the janitor on paid leave. This painful incident reminds us of the ongoing legacy of racism and bias, the president wrote, in which people of color are targeted whilst simply going about the business of their ordinary lives.

The New York Times, the Washington Post, and CNN picked up the story of a young black female student harassed by white workers the American Civil Liberties Union, which took the student's case that she was profiled for quote eating while black. Less attention was paid three months later, when a law firm hired by Smith College to investigate the episode found no persuasive evidence of bias. Miss Counterwetday was determined to have eaten in a deserted dorm that had

been closed for the summer. The janitor had been encouraged to notify the security on campus if he saw unauthorized people there, and the officer, like all campus police, was unarmed. The whole thing was a lie. Very important that you know this right away. The whole thing was a lie. There was no profiling, there was no racism. And it gets worse actually than this. It's it's even worse than you think. Smith College officials were emphasizing reconciliation and healing

after the incident, The New York Times rights. In the months to come, they announced a raft of anti bias training for all staff, a revamped and more sensitive campus police force, and the creation of dormitories set aside for black students and other students of color. End quote. That's a that's a thing that continues to happen in these campuses.

There are dorms that are segregated at the request of, at the demand of minority students, and in some cases at my college, at Amherst College, which is right down the road from Smith, and they you can take all classes at one. You can take all the classes from one when you're at the other. So there is a lot a crossover at these schools. And Smith is an all women's college. Although I'm being serious, I don't know how they describe that now, because there are gender fluid

people who attend Smith who are not biological females. So they've they've eliminated gender from the student constitution. I'm serious. So I didn't even know it's all women, except it's not all women. That's the best way I could put it to you. And that's just a biological fact. So this situation, this story, reminds me of so many things that I saw going on when I was on campus.

And it's not surprising at all that this is how the administrators, the cowardly administrators, acted about all of this. Because here's part of the problem. Not only was there no bias, This student, miss Kannowete, wrote on her Facebook page and put a photo up. She docks a worker whom she thought, I mean, you really at again in the details of the story, she thought was the person who called the police or campus police, and she was wrong.

She docks the wrong person. She thought a cafeteria worker was the one who said that she you know, who called security on her. So let's go down the list here. Remember this is a big national story, and the list is there was no bias found in the incident, whatsoever. This woman, miss Kennoete, was eating in a dorm that was closed for the summer. She should not have been there, She was not allowed to be there under the rules

of the college. She just decided she was gonna open it for herself and lounge out and hang out and do the whole thing right. She was laying out over over some benches or couches or something and in a dark room, in a dark uh I think it actually is a lounge room, and a custodian, a janitor saw her and did exactly what he was supposed to do, which they said, call security, And so unarmed security showed up and said, hey, you know, what are you supposed

to what are you doing here? And she wasn't supposed to be there, and security had a nice polite conversation or they said, hey, can you go to one of the other dorms. This dorm is closed. I mean, this is the equivalent of, you know, somebody like at a at a stadium or something. You know, if one of the security guys comes up to you says, oh, you know, you're actually in twenty four A and need to be

in twenty four C. Could you move over? Because here are some other You know, this is a nothing burger event. This is nothing. But here's what you have to know. This black female student at Smith College, miss Kanuete, she knows the rules of the game now, and she knows, Ah, I don't like this. I might have been embarrassed for a moment by this for whatever reason, because I wasn't supposed to be there. But the rules don't really apply

to me because I'm oppressed. I'm special, you see, and I have a lot of power as long as I play the right card. And so she did. She said that she was terrified because the officer might have had a weapon, but all campus officers are unarmed at Smith, and she would know that she's a student there, and she could also see when somebody has a gun as a police officer, you know, you can see it on them. There was no weapon. This was just somebody who walked up.

It was a security guard. Basically, he said, hey, this dorm is closed. She went on a rampage online and she decided that she was going to get even the Smith College president who makes half a million dollars a year in salary, five hundred k plus folks and also all kinds of benefits and basically just goes to cocktail parties and give speeches that people write on occasion. That's all, that's her job. She decided it was time to go

full woke and throw people under the bus. They put the janitor who couldn't even see if miss Kannoete was male or female on leave, and because they had a transcript of the phone call. You're not going to believe what Knawete decided to do when the transcript of the phone call came out. Get ready for it. You're in the freedom hunt. Thanks for listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Get the latest from Buck at buck sexton

dot com How fake racism destroys lives. You can consider this a one oh one class today based on this story at Smith College. And again, I am here at Spack, So if you hear any commotion in the background, it's because I'm at Spack in Orlando, Florida and just getting a taste of being in a free state like Florida instead of a lockdown state like New York. It's pretty

pretty remarkable, it's pretty amazing. But now I have to get back into this really troubling story that is I think that the single, the single most upsetting story of abuse of this new weaponization of racism claims that you see going on, and it happens on a regular basis. We all know this stuff happens. And here you have Smith College, a Bucolic all women's college, although I don't know if they say that anymore, because that so gender fluid, and there's you know, gender is just a state of

mind and all that stuff. And I know this place very well. I tried to convince my little sister that it wasn't really for her. She went and visited, and then she managed to find on her own that it was not a place where a rational person would want to spend four years. It is, by the way, I'll tell you this beautiful town, Northampton, great food, beautiful town. The winners there are very cold and snowy, but also quite lovely in their own way. But Smith has been

ruined by ideology. It used to be that Amherst was a men's college where I went, and Smith was a women's college as well as Holyoak, and the people would go to school there and they would often find their their future spouse there and that was the system. And then Amherst went co ed and Smith and Holyoak went in a different direction, not quite co ed, but not quite not co ed. I don't know what you'd I

don't know how to describe it exactly. So this story that I've been telling you, you you have this, this student who claimed bias at a very minor incident where everything was by the book. There was nothing, there was nothing that was in any way, and a law firm that specializes in bias investigations did a full, full look into this and said, there's nothing here, nothing here, nothing, but

nothing happened, there was no incident. But we've so trained people today, especially people who are gen Z, people who are millennials, We've so trained them to look to look for bias where none exists, because they recognize it as a lever of power. It's a tool that can be used, it makes people feel good. It's a form of reverse bullying. And that's exactly what happened here. You have the college

president making five hundred k plus a year. You have a student who decided that she was the target of a race of a racist incident where there was no reason to believe that that was the case. And you also have a student who I would be very curious to know is she paying tuition? How much tuition is she paying? Was she in any way assisted as a

diversity admit to the school? You know, these are the questions that if we're really going to have a fair and equitable college admissions process, shouldn't we be able to know some of these things? Shouldn't we abill to know what the advantage is in the admissions process for people who have a particular background, by the way, including legacies, including athletes, but also including the advantages of race in admissions, which we all know are very real there. It's actually

an enormous advantage. And if you have parents from Molly from what is Northwest Africa, which miss which this student does, Kennet, Miss kene Wete, then that's a that's a tremendous advantage in the admissions process too. So she's going to a school where she was admitted in part likely it's likely that she was admitted in part because of the advantage of her race, because it is true that there is a racial advantage in admissions in colleges. We know that

that's a fact. It's established. Screame Court looks at it. I know people don't like to talk about it. It's true, this happens not if you're Asian. If you're Asian, too bad. You know, it's rough for you. But Democrats don't need to create the same framework of disadvantage for you. They're they're not they're not claiming that you're so deeply oppressed. And so this is the other part of this though,

that really that really got my attention. You have It's remarkable, miss Kinda when the transcript because the custodian, the janitor called in to student security, or to a campus security rather called then and said, you know that I couldn't tell if it was a male or female because didn't even look, just knew that somebody was in a dark lounge area of a closed off dorm, and the and the advice and look, these campuses are very open to

the public. There are there are vagrants, and there are people that are you know, trespassing and are not supposed to be there. That does happen. I had a very dear friend who was attacked in her bed by a local of some of some sort. And you know, I remember running around the building when I when I found out what had happened, trying to find this guy. Uh, you know, there there are incidents that happened even in

a sleepy town like this. But what ended up happening here that I thought was so interesting was that she found out that this guy didn't know her gender and said he because he because he couldn't see into the room and it was dark. He assumed it was a he that that she was upset that she was misgendered. That was another part of the complaint. Later on, she was misgendered. Oh yes, I'm sure this guy on purpose

did that. Right. This janitor who's been working at the college for years and years, who and it's written the article, is making forty thousand dollars a year. Okay, this guy is just this is your average every day American working hard. And I know what those janitors. I became very good friends with the janitor at Amer's College, particularly my junior year.

I lived in a dorm called cross It, and I remember having talks with him, I mean about the stuff that he would have to you know, I know, I don't want to be gross, but college kids act like savages, Okay they do. And you know this is somebody's dad. I mean, he was a wife and kids. He was cleaning up vomit and urn and all the time, all the time, these little brats would act like that. And

you know, he was getting paid. He was supposed to be getting paid to, you know, make sure the facilities look nice and everything functions, and to change light bulbs when necessary. And and instead a lot of his job was, you know, cleaning up the vomit and urine of privileged brats and hooting woke privilege brats in particular, I might add. So you know, this is this is another instance here where the facts do not matter. As I've told you now,

there was no reason to believe there was bias. There was nothing about this incident that has any connection to what a rational person would think is racist or is wrong. But it didn't matter. That's the other part of this. Smith College still put the janitor on paid leave. Another woman who was a cafeteria worker, Cannowete, decided that she was going to out her because she didn't realize who

it was at first who called security. And so what ended up happening was she she uh said the wrong and said the wrong person, she gave the wrong name. It's really awful, really awful. So you know, this is student work. By the way, just just to give you some more of the details here, student workers were not supposed to use the Tyler cafeteria, which was reserved for

a camp for summer children. That's why you weren't supposed to have students in these different in some of the cafeterias, some of these areas, and the summer camp area was off limits. That was the whole, the whole thing here. But even the janitors knew that if they had to enforce any of these rules, they were in trouble. We used to joke, don't let her rich student report you, because if you do, you're gone. Mark Patanade said, he's

a janitor. Miss Knoette took her food and walked through a set of French doors, crossed a foyer, reclined in the shadowed lounge of a dormitory close for the summer, where she scrolled the webb. As she ate, a large stuffed bear obscured the view of her from the cafeteria. So it was kind of a lounge off of a cafeteria in a dorm It's complicated, but but she thought that somebody else was the one who called security. It was a janitor. She thought it was a different person,

and she out of that person. Miss Blair, the cafeteria worker, received an email from a reporter at The Boston Globe asking her to comment on why she called secure to him Miss Kennoete for quote eating while black. That puzzled her, The author writes here, what did she have to do with this? The food services director called the next morning, Jackie, He said, you're on Facebook. She found that Miss Kennoeta

had posted her photograph, name and email. This is the racist person, Miss Kannoeta wrote of Miss Blair, adding that Miss Patnade, mister Paternada, rat of the janitor, was also guilty. He in fact worked an early shift that day and had already gone home at the time of the incident. Miss Kennoeta also lashed out of the Smith administration, They're

essentially enabling racist, cowardly acts. Miss Blair. Again, the entirely innocent party who did not call the police had nothing to do with this, Okay, Just to be very clear, person was just doing her job working as a cafeteria worker, making you know, thirty seven thirty eight grand year whatever it is. She has Lupa's a disease of the immune system and stress triggers episodes, shed up going to the hospital because of all this. I mean, you just go

through this and you know what it is. You have a couple of white working class, hard working of employees of Smith College totally thrown under the bus by the five hundred thousand all year white female president of Smith College, very privileged person, because a black female student decided that she was going to have some fun with weaponizing a racism accusation. This isn't just about Smith College for those who aren't a wise buck spending so much time today

on one school in Massachusetts. And yes there's some nostalgia for me because I spent a lot of time there and have a lot of stories I can tell you about that place, bizarre ones. But it's because this is actually now corporate culture too. This is across the whole country. This is what wokeness means. It doesn't matter if you didn't do anything wrong. It's a conversation we need to have. They'll tell you. It doesn't matter if you are just

enforcing the rules as they're supposed to be. You offended somebody who's a minority. Are protected minority because remember some minorities are protected and others aren't. Doesn't matter what the truth is, doesn't matter what you did. All that matters in this is that the wokeness gets to pick people

to destroy. It's about power. It's about power for people who claim they don't have it, but they know that as long as they play this game, they do and they enjoy it, they get they get a thrill out of it. Ruining the lives of working class people who are who are cleaning up, who are literally cleaning up vomit and throw up, and the mess that these brats leave behind all the time. Get them death threats online,

which happened to the cafeteria worker and the jender. Get them death threats online, make them unemployable, and other jobs they try to look for, which also happened because a black female student didn't like being told you're not actually supposed to be eating in here, Could you please go to the other cafeteria. That's the America we actually live in today. That's reality. That's what wokeness is. That's what this story is. Don't forget it, because this is what

we're contending with now. This is instead instead of Soviet class struggle, we have Soviet style racial Marxism in this country. Now, that's what's happening, and it's destroying us, it's pulling us apart. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Join the conversation and message Buck on Facebook, Instagram, or email Team Bucket iHeartMedia dot com. He may read it on the show. Well, look at this a news story breaking today. Actually that is tying in with exactly what we've been or some

of what we've been talking about. In the last hour. Supreme Court asked to outlaw race based college admissions. A group challenging Harvard admissions policies says it files an appeal asking the Court over the two thousand and three Grutter decision. This is Gruttter v. Bollinger. This is uh, this is excellent. Supreme Court has now been has not been asked to outlaw race based admissions. Let's be very clear about this.

The Supreme Court should absolutely outlaw race based admissions. Okay, there's there's no good faith way to, no good faith way to argue that this isn't an Equal Protection clause violation. Of course, it's an Equal Protection clause violation. And the

way that this is finally coming to the forefront. I think is because of Asian Americans and their treatment in this whole process, because if we have you know, you're always told that there's this system of white supremacy, that's what they'll say, a system of white supremacy in America. And they've been expanded that term white supremacy tremendously, right, They've expanded it a whole heck of a lot, so that now it includes things that no reasonable person before

would have ever thought constitutes white supremacy. I mean, they wouldn't have thought that, right, But now it's whatever they say it is. It's whatever the left, whatever the woke

mob decides constitutes white supremacy, is just that. And the problem that they have to contend with is that the average Asian American household makes more money in America than the average white American household does that the people who are most overrepresented as a percentage of population in elite colleges across the country are Asian Americans, not in fact, white Americans. So how is it that we have a system that they tell us is dedicated to the perpetuation

the elevation, unfair elevation of one race in America? But that's not even accurate based on the facts about who is the most elevated as a percentage of population in elite institutions and when it comes to household wealth and things of that nature. How is that possible? How can you argue, for example, that Hispanic and Latino of Americans or Hispanic or Latino I refuse to use this term latin x. I've actually never met a Latino or Hispanic person who likes the term Latin X. So I think

that's always that's always a tell. But how is it that you can explain at Harvard, at Stanford, at you name, at University of Michigan. That's where the Grutter v. Bollinger decision was, University of Michigan. How can you explain the situation where Asian Americans are discriminated against, but Latino Americans get a they get a benefit in the admissions process. Why is that fair? There's no leg a see of

slavery to discuss when you're talking about Latino Latino applicants. So, and also what really constitutes even being in one of these categories. Another problem they have is that categories like white and Latino, and and even a category like black, there are so many variations within these categories. So you know, being African American is a is a different thing, and you have had a different experience than being somebody who comes from Nigeria or Molly or Cameroon. Right, it's a

different thing. You've had a different experience. Being a white person can be somebody who grew up, you know, on Martha's vineyard, for Heaven's sakes, or you could be somebody who is very light skinned from northern Iraq or Afghanistan.

There are Caucasians in fact, throughout much of the Western Eurasia who are just as white as anybody else, and you know, in terms of their actual skin, you'd see them and say, well, they're they're white, and they have all kinds of oppression and problems that they've had to deal with, systemic problems. These categories are so messy as to be meaningless, except they're not about fair, They're about power.

You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Make sure you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeart radio app or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm here at Seepack, which is fun because I get to see buddies of mine that I usually get to interact with on a virtual level. I get to have them call in or join by Skype or whatever. But Ben Ferguson of The Ben Ferguson Show is here with me, and Ben I

gotta tell everybody you. You were supposed to bring your tennis rackets so we could play, and I did not bring mine. So the good news is I let you off the hook by the way I should have played it up. I should have seen like I was devastating when you walked up me, like I forgot my rackets, and I was relieved because I forgot mine too. But I should have held you on the hookback, dude, I had a court at two o'clock for us. I did not play that well. I was too nice to you.

Two guys with side parts who like to play tennis, not go So what's it? What's it feel like for you? I want to know one thing. When you leave New York City and you arrive in Florida, Yes, there's some different rules and regulations. A people are still wearing masks here a lot and everything. But when you leave New York City and you get to Florida, you feel like this is kind of what normal life feel it's not quite normal here, but this is close. It's a lot

closer to normal than anywhere else. How does it compare to to Texas and to Tennessee, to other states that you spend a lot of you where you're from a lot of time. So in in Tennessee, the state, the governor there, Governor Lee, has done a great job of saying, hey, we're gonna be pro business, pro opening up. We're not gonna hold you back. We're gonna get we want to

get the kids back to school. The problem is in big cities like Nashville and Memphis, they have their own health departments, so by law they get to make their rules. The governor can't overrun them. So they've been like no, no, no, we shut down here. Like our restaurant was twenty five percent occupancy until like two weeks ago. No one can make a living do that. We're gonna lose the Area Restaurant Association. They believe that we'll probably lose at least

forty percent of restaurants that will never open again. Like close here, the keys back, we're done, we've lost our business. We're done. Same thing in Houston. You've got you've got a mayor. They're hard core liberal right, big defund the police guy, you know, black lives matter, riots, protests, let's you know, and again a guy that has said no, no, no, I have control. I'm gonna shut us down. We're not gonna have bars open, We're not gonna have tourism, We're

not gonna have sports, We're not gonna have it. I mean they have, they have suffocated these cities, and we're gonna lose their thirty five They think thirty five percent of the restaurants will never reopen. How far down like estimate for us? Because I know you own a barbecue restaurant. And when the world opens, I've promised Band that I'm actually go and try his brisket and I'm going to compare it to the best Brooklyn hipster brisket. And I'm

gonna be ruthless about this. I will. There are very few things I feel confident about a life. Buck There's two of them. One that my serve is going to be better than yours, and to the brisket. The brisket is going to be better than Brooklyn. I feel very confident in those two things. So first of all, don't worry if you beat me a tennis, I'll beat you in pink the obviously we're paddle sports guys. That's the

way it has to go. And second of all, um, I just feel like the barbecue wars among various parts of this country is one of the few places where everybody is everyone's sort of convinced that if only you try the best of my regional variety, you will so I I it's funny. I'm a I'm an advocate for the barbecue world. It's a lost art. It is a

it is is truly art. And there are there are people that I will take you to go see, and it's amazing who have built their own smokers their way, who cook their way, who show up at two in the morning and do it their way. There are some of the most amazing places that may disappear because of COVID. Right that I will take you two when you come to Memphis. But the restaurant industry in general, I think that's where you're at going kind of like, what do

you do? I mean, look at our employees. They're underemployed right now, right I think Democrats were in favor of a living wage. We're underemployed because we've had employees, We've had to shift hours around it. We've had to lay off people, We've had to say we don't have enough hours. Fore, if you got to get a job somewhere else, get a job somewhere else. I'm sorry, because when you operate at twenty five percent for months on end, you don't need a full staff. You can't afford a full staff.

I can only serve twenty five percent of the food I was serving before, and so this is destroyed those hourly workers. And we pay above average wages that are at my restaurant, something I care about, and I want to make sure that people are not struggling. You get you go. I want to be a good employer, but I've had to look at him going. I cannot employ you if you need to leave, I understand it. I can't give you forty hours because you would have to shut down. Yeah, and no one can make money at

twenty five percent. I mean, I didn't realize barbecue has good margins, right it's I mean it does. It has good margins because you have a very simple menu. You don't have a lot of items on that menu. You don't have a lot of loss. Right if we cook briskets and we run out, we were proud of that. We put a huge sign up says out of brisket, right, we run out of ribs for the day, we run out of ribs. That happens, right, No, and it does.

But it's kind of like a rite of passage, like, man, our stuff's good, we run out all the time, and so there's no there. It's a good margin, becauess, but there's no business that can run at twenty five percent. How long do you think they're going to continue that? Because my, my big we just went to fifty percent

with no reason behind it, just arbitrary number. Like, well, this is what I'm saying, because because in New York they just went from I make I make jokes about how stupid the lockdowns are, and and now I'm actually concerned. It's almost like Governor Cuomo listens to my show or something and goes, you know what, just to be a jackass, I'm gonna do the thing the opposite of what he'll do, the thing that I've been making fun of. For real. So I've been saying, because I said, why we open

at twenty five percent? Why not twenty seven point five percent. You know, throw the margin right if this is based on science and the numbers shouldn't be rounded. They did, they did thirty five percent. Now they've gone from twenty five to thirty five, not even fifty. And I'm like, well, why stop there? When's the forty percent opening? I mean, it's all such arbitrary crap. And and my my concern

is that people don't understand. Yes, they're going to let up on this for a little bit once the weather gets better. In all these places the cases are going way down, but they think that they have the right to reinstitute this, and there will be arasolis virus next winter time. There will be and might seem there, but it might be might. By the way, how do we handle flu? The flu has basically been eradicated according to CDC.

Where did it go? Where did it go? The fluist has been around, so we're to believe And I want to be very clear, because you know, I get I don't know if you've had this. I've been attacked by the PolitiFact and those maniacs were just saying, yeah, of course the stories on how I'm telling partially true things. I'm like, also, known as seeing reality. But the flu is somehow gone. The flu will come back. I mean

when I say somehow, that's just what they say. This is the masking and social distancing obviously didn't work very well this winter time overall. I mean you could say it worked a little bit if you want, but clearly we said all time records for debts and flu though is gone. These things will come back then at some level, and there will be a knee jerk reaction in places, even in places like Nashville, even place you look at Blue states and they're gonna be shutting down barbecue joins again,

mark my word. The people that are making the decisions these health parts, they're elected by no one. They're appointed, which bothers me. Right, you've got Cuomo and others, right, But the people under them that all of a sudden got this power to shut down America, they're not elected by anybody. The health department that can shut down your business, that can find you thousands of dollars, that can take away your business license are elected by no one. And

the nut and these rules. I'll just give you example. We November December, they said twenty five percent occupancy. Then they said but you, Buck Sexton, cannot sit the same table with Ben Ferguson. If you don't live in the same household, you're not allowed to sit together. And we had to check IDs. My father and I could make barbecue together all day at our restaurant. We could prepare briskets, trim briskets, put on firewood, work side by side all

day long. But if we want to eat lunch together, we're not allowed to eat lunch toge at the same table because we don't live at the same address. So the rule they made was on top of the twenty five percent rule, the tables also had to be at least six feet apart, which took us below twenty five percent occupancy, even if their twenty five number. So we're like, all right, just which one is it? Is it six ft apart? Is it six feet apart or twenty five percent?

Or is it I can't eat with anybody I don't live with. And then they said another arbitrary where they threw in there you can have no more than two adults, no more than two adults at the same table. So now is it two adults? Is it twenty five percent occupancy? Is it six feet apart is that we can't live in the same house on which one isn't I'm trying

to figure it out. So this is this is the other part of it that I try to tell everybody that there there was also something of a glee, at least in New York for the people that were making these decisions that they were really important all of a sudden, really powerful, really and you see this from some of the some of the decision making that was going on, where they would say things like we're going to we're gonna go out there and do deterrence enforcement, meaning we're

gonna we're gonna pick people and nail them because you're not doing enough of what we say. I mean, when you're talking about industries, restaurants is the one that's most don't but also the hotel industry, and they're sending out it in New York City, which is you know, it's also regionalized that even though this is a you know, a show that's on in all fifty states, Um, you know, we all know our own we all know our own you know, nightmarish lockdown reality and in some places, I know,

it's much worse than it is than others. But they would send in New York. They would send out sheriff's deputies for the City of New York. People didn't I worked for the MYPD and't even heard of the Sheriff's department where they come from. They sent out some law enforcement agency that has a few hundred people that work for it that are part of the sort of New York State, but the New York City version of the

New York State sheriffs. And they were giving people enormous fines in restaurants that were struggling to just barely keep their doors open. Fifteen one hundred dollars fines for a dropped mask. I don't know if you guys saw this, but we i've noticed this. They picked restaurants that would

get great press for the enforcement. We had restaurants that were kind of iconic restaurants that were getting picked on, and it's like they decided, Hey, if we can nail that up to headline, right, if we can go to that restaurant that everybody knows, it will get on the news. And that's how they picked the restaurant was how famous is it, how historic is it, what part of town is it in? Do people know that restaurant. Is it a significant restaurant with a chef that people would know?

So we get a headline that will come after everyone it's sick. This is the Buck Sexton Show Podcast. Follow Buck on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. All right, back with my buddy Ben Ferguson, who is a various dude political observer, but is delusional about being able to hit a harder first serup on the tennis court than me. So so, Ben, remember there's spacetime, and there's there's Zoom, there's Facebook. We can we can fix it. It's just we could do it,

and I'm fine with you. I'm fine with you actually having a festive serveup, but just if I have some kind of like a minor, you know, breath heaving cardiac event five minutes into our our one set tennis match, we gotta cut that. You play sets still? Oh, I just sit down the middle, see the same I played

a ten off the ground. You know, we're gonna get ripped by everyone all across the country because they there are people that still seem to think that when you're got again, we're basically both forty now that we're supposed to be out there like playing like you know, tackle football or something. No one's played football since college, and if you think they have, you're weird. Lying. Yeah, it's flag since with your kids it does not happening, Like

why are you guys playing tennis? It's like, oh, do you want to play golf? This is what I literally laugh, can't handle it. So when I went to Ole Miss, my roommate was guy named Kevin. He played football oh line at Ole Miss. One of the biggest men you'll ever see. So I knock on the door and I don't know who he is, right, we get it was an athletic dorm. Got down there, and so I knocked on the door and this guy answers the door. My

dad's sitting behind me. My dad's in law enforcement. And this guy, who's like six seven, looks at me and says to me, what the blank do you want? And I looked at him. I go, I'm your blanking roommate. He's smiled, laugh because I'm just I'm just messing. When you broke come on in. I was never been more

afraid of my entire life. So we're sitting there and he's like that night we're talking to each other and he goes, I gotta tell you Ferguson, I gotta tell you my mom is not gonna believe it that I'm living with a white dude like you. True story. So we become my best friends and people are like, how did you guys get roommates? It was pot It was pot luck, right athlete athlete. They thriss together. So he asked you what He's like, Man, I gotta ask you.

He's like, missed this tennis sport thing, like, why do you play this? Man? It doesn't see it doesn't seem you run around chasing a fuzzy ball. So I'll tell you two reasons. One, I'm still gonna be doing it in a year and a half when you're retired. He's like, what do you mean. I was like, you're never gonna put pads on the rest of your life after you graduate. Ever,

I can play this and tell him seventy bro. The second reason I'm doing is because I'm not as big as you, and no one offered me a football scholarship. So there you go. Yeah, I wrote crew in college, and I can tell you that that's another. Were you an ivy leaguer, you kind of went to amorous I did, which is which is it's like you know Williams. Yeah, it's like Tier two of Ivy League. Is that like

you almost made it. It's a college, it's like a different See now he's given me tough stuff because he knows he needs to get away with what he can before we step out of that tennis run around your life. So I was I was going to ask you because I know people are listening. They're like, this is just guys, it's so rare. You gotta understand for us, for people to see each other at CEPAC, to see your your

friends and conservative media, we've all been completely usually. I mean we worked at CNN at the same time you bump into people in the green rooms, you at least you know are joining. There's been zero interaction for any conservative media we have not seen. So if we sound like we're you know, everyone here, and then you'll notice this in the next couple of days at least the people that we actually like that we see here. Um, if it sounds like a frat party reunion the Glory days,

that's exactly what it is. Kind of what it feels like for everybody right now here. So all right into some serious stuffcause people listen to show to actually get worthwhile information, not not you talk about Ben and Ben and Buck's old glory days. UM minimum wage yep, you going back to this. You own a small business, UM and minimum wage going a fifth ten dollars, just to just tell everybody, because well, well, first what do you think about the Democrat move here, and then we'll talk

about what it actually would do to a business like yours. Well, Democrat move here is they don't have the votes, so they're going to do it through reconciliation, which is going to break a crap ton of rules, right, and you would argue laws, but they don't care. They're gonna do it anyway. Reconciliation is only supposed to be able to be used for budget issues, and now they're claiming that an increasementum way is somehow budget issue, which it is not.

It never has been cleared a budget issue. It is not a budget issue. So that's my number one problem with this is that we're going to do this without really anyone voting. Huge issue when you're mandating everybody in the country that employs people, especially somewhile business owners are going to have to pay an arbitrary random number they've come up with, which is fifteen dollars an hour. They

claim that to living wage. The unions or who started this, to be clear, they lost manufacturing jobs, they lost their political muscle, and they said, where do we go next? They said, if we can go to hospitality and the fast food industry and those at stock shelves at grocery stores and we can unionize those people, will get our power back because they had all their hour and manufacturing and that disappeared in America under Obama. So during the

Obama years, that's how this all came about. This is one hundred percent a union play for more power. They said, we need more members, we need more people paying dues, and we need to have more political muscle and represent a lot of people so we can scare the crap out of politicians and say to them, if you do what we tell you to do, we'll get you reelected every time. That's what union said for years, right decades.

That's how Union boss has worked. It was thugs. It was all right, buck, you want to run for mayor, that's fine. You get the whole union behind you, will campaign for you, will support you, will vote for you. We'll get all our families before, but you got to give us what we demand. That power disappeared from unions, it did when the manufacturing jobs disappeared. So this is not about what's good for America. This is what's good

for unionization. They see the potential that they can pull this off for massive amounts of union workers in this country. Second thing is going to happen for small bomb and pops like me is you're just gonna cut hours. That's what you're gonna do. It's the same exact thing we saw happening with Obamacare. Remember when they said if you have fifteen employees or more that you have to offer healthcare for you if they work more than thirty one

hours a week. So what happened. People that were working forty hours a week immediately got back cut back to twenty nine hours a week, and we're told to go find another eleven hours somewhere else. That just made their life harder because now you got to go work two hour two jobs. You're gonna have at least an hour in between if you even find something matches up. So you had millions of Americans that became under employed overnight. And let's not overlook the reality that all these companies

have been watching this coming. They've seen it coming, they've already adapted. When was the last time? And again it's New York. It's a little different. Right. You got a lot of Mom and pops, but in larger grocery stores, there's no one checking you out anymore. It's all self checkout. It's all please scan your item and put it in the bag. Right. You go to any fast food rush right now, it's a lot of automation. Even banks are realizing this. You can't go to a teller drive through anymore.

They don't exist. They're hardly anywhere. They want you to scan the check on your phone and upload it that way. They want you to do the mobile app because they don't want to employ people to take your check and shoot it in the tube and go to the other side and then put it in the computer for you. So the idea that we're gonna like this is actually

gonna help Americans is insane. The Congressional Budget Office also has said, you'll have more people lose their jobs under this, under this decision, then we'll be taken out of poverty because of it, which is the whole claim of the left. Ben Ferguson, everybody of the Ben Ferguson Podcast, You guys canna check him out. He's going if anything untoward happens while I'm at spacks, will be involved. If there's any incident involving a borrowed booze bus or something that ends up.

You know, if we get arrested for not wearing our masks, well that that's definitely gonna be a pen's fault. Maybe mine too. But Ben, great to see you, man, Thanks so much for joining. Brother. Nice to see you. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Join the conversation and message Buck on Facebook, Instagram, or email Team Bucket. iHeartMedia dot com. He may read it on the show. Because I'm here at Cepack in Orlando, Florida, I get to see a lot of my favorite people in conservative media.

We just had my buddy Ben Ferguson with us, and now we have miss Anna Paulina Luna. She was a congressional candidate here in the Tampa area in this last cycle and is a conservative commentator and just all around great lady. A veteran, I feel like people don't they don't always remember you're a veteran. Correct. I actually did not wear my pin today, but a lot of people look at me and they say, no way of what I say. Of the military air force. There you go,

and let's let's talk a little Florida, shall we. You ran, and you ran against Charlie christ a well known name in Florida politics here, and you're we're hoping going to run again because you had you had a strong showing. But people are talking rom de Santis in a pretty big way already for twenty twenty four because of well, there are folks like me who are seeing what's going on here and saying there was a better way to handle this pandemic, and Ron de Santis was one of

the people pushing and actually enacting that way. Do you think that that's Are we already at a point where De Santis be talked about as a possible because that's a big part of seapack, right, We're gonna have the straw pole and all this stuff. What do you think?

One hundred thousand percent? Although I'm a little bit selfish and I don't want to lose de santist, he is absolutely has proven over the last couple of months he's been absolutely incredible with his response to COVID, and now that we see the epic roasting of Cuomot, I think that it's only furthering that argument. But you know, it's one of those things that a lot of people are really uncomfortable with how the Democrats handled this total lockdown

and push for control. They said it would only be what fourteen days, fifteen days, and we here we are months later, and now Florida's essentially become, I think, a refugee state for a lot of these small business owners and people that just don't want that totalitarian viewpoint, especially during a national pandemic. How has it been being down here? I mean, you know, Tampa, we're talking to Ben and

there's the state versus the local reality. And because this look, the show is on in fifty states, right, so I'm always trying to talk about what's going on with lockdowns. And one of the challenges is that my my wonderful audience in Los Angeles or in Denver has a very different feel of what's going on with the lockdown than the people who listen in Montana or even rural Michigan or Illinois, for example. Right, They're like, I mean, yeah, I go into like a store, I put on a mount.

Other than that, I mean, no one's really bothering me. How has it been Tampa versus the rest of Florida? So I'd say, you go to the Painhandle and they're completely they don't care about the mass. You go to places like Tampa and you have it same way in the stores, but you go out on a Friday night to the bars and there's not a mask in site. So I think that it really just depends. But I think a lot of people are realizing one COVID had and does have a ninety nine point nine percent survival rate.

De Santis has done a great job with giving the vaccine to those that need it the most, in other words, the older generation and senior citizens. So I think a lot of people are now realizing, Okay, if it's a more democrat area and Democrat controlled local government, that you'll see a stronger push for the mass. And then other than that, in the more conservative areas, you're not seeing the masking. What less since did you learn from your run for Congress here in Florida this last time around?

That and just in general, your feel for where the GOP goes now? Right. I mean, you you saw what it was like you you were in those debates and those those fights for the twenty twenty election. Trump obviously is not president anymore. Joe Biden is sitting in the White House, and the Democrats have control in the House and de facto Senate majority. What do you feel like we what is the party now? What do we do now?

People ask me this. I want to ask you because you actually had to like raise money convince people that the GOP as a future, um you know from me is a little bit different because I was never the establishment candidate. I was kind of that Trumpian, the candidate that came in and was not a part of the problem. As I say. What I really learned though, is that you know, people do have this old way of doing things, right,

that old guard of what establishment politics was. And with Trump and what you're seeing now with those especially that just got into this past cycle, that are those younger voices of the GOP. They are your average Americans. It's not this you know, country yacht club type of Republican. It's your beer drinking, blue jean wearing, you know, boot slanging Republicans that you know have had normal jobs and realize, look, we don't want to have to do this, but we're

doing this because we don't want government overreach. And you know, i'd say that people that you know want to be career politicians, they're probably sociopaths because it's hard and it's a great sacrifice. But for people like myself and moving forward, I think that what the Republican Party is realizing is that one you can't get rid of Trump. He started a movement, the American First Movement, that's here to stay.

And I think that moving forward, if they want to ever target the American base the way that Trump did, that they're going to have to choose these dynamic candidates that can resonate with the base. Forty fifth President of the United States Donald Trump will be here this weekend giving, I believe, what's considered v keynote of the entire ce pack What are you? I know that you haven't been

involved in the speech writing process of love. Told you were, I wouldn't be surprised, but I know I think this time around they haven't. They haven't tapped you for it. What do you want to hear him say? I guess that's what's your version of the best possible message Trump can give you mentioned America first and where we are

right now. I want to hear him say that he's not going anywhere from the GOP, that he will be definitely engaged in the twenty twenty two primaries because I think that that's where the Republican Party needs it the most. A lot of people tend to stay out of primaries. You should be getting involved because that's when you can filter out a lot of the bad candidates that can

potentially become congressman. And that I also hope that he says, and I don't know if he'll do it just yet, but that he is hoping to make a run in twenty twenty four. I'm backing to Santis, but I still think that Trump could have done some great things for

this country. He was the only president in my lifetime that didn't bring us into another foreign war, and I'm still adamantly opposed to the military industrial complex, and so I'm hoping that he'll say that he's going to continue to lead this country and lead the party as well. We're speaking to Anna Paulina Lunas. She was a congressional candidate in Tampa. Here in Florida. We're right now in Orlando, but in Tampa, Florida, and she's sitting here with me

at CEPAC. And you know you mentioned I'm gonna be talking on Friday with former It's gonna be me and deput National Security Advisor, former deput National Security Advisor Katie McFarland, who we're gonna be talking about big tech and China. So which is near. It's near and dear to my heart because there's the China issue and how that affects Americans. There's big tech against us, and then there's big tech colluding with Chinas. There's multiple layers. It's like big tech

is is becoming clearly an enemy of free speech. In my opinion, I think that's beyond I think that's beyond a reasonable debate. But of course that's a debate. We we're gonna still have to have um on the foreign policy front, though. One of the GOP so called civil war issues or whatever people are saying. The fighting within the GOOP that keeps coming up is there's that that fear.

I think, because Liz Channing in particular is one of the most vocal anti Trumpers, that the GOP wants to go back or that there there are powerful elements that want to go back to that. I mean, you know the g WAT. You know that era intervention. I mean, no one calls it. When I was in the CIA, we call it. It was always the g WAT, I mean, and that's that's a no go now. But whatever it is, the the that intervention is feeling, do you think we're

really passed that? I mean, you mentioned the military industrial complex and I know you're you're married to a Special Forces veteran. I worry that there are still a lot of people that haven't on our side, you know, generally speaking, Conservatives or Republicans or whatever, who haven't learned a lesson and still think that that's the way we like, basically, we're going to go to war with Iran. It's just a question when I will be like lying in front

of the tank, so to speaking. Yeah, no, that's that's probably the worst thing that you could be promoting right now. I'm not that you are, but that these people who in my opinion, don't have any skin in the game. I mean, they're willing to vote our and send our young men and women to war, but yet if they're not sending their own sons and daughters. Um, you know my viewpoint on that is I think that is considered controversial.

I don't think many Republicans have had the viewpoint that I do, having seen firsthand what happens with our soldiers. But also too, you know, it's not the responsibility of the United States to be a world police. You know that a throwback movie. I think it was in the nineties that it came out. You know, we're not the global police for are you talking? Team America one of the one of the greatest movies ever made. I absolutely loved Team you know. They were going to make a

sequel and they didn't. We'll say, I will say that is a movie. By the way, it is not for kids. I always have sometimes I talk about something on the show, and so it was like I was watching it with little Timmy and he's ten, and I had to cover his eyes. I'm like, this is not for kids at all, not even a little bit. But Team America is one of those very rare cinematic achievements where I was like both laughing and embarrassed that I was watching and wanted

to turn it off but couldn't turn it off. But but back to the foreign policy side of this. I just I worry that I worry that there will be a shift back. I worry that we will be pushed toward a more interventionist active form. And I feel like from my perspective, I mean, I know, you know, your

your husband was was an SF guy. I mean, as a CI person who was in a rock and Afghanistan, who was always looking up to the guys who were outside the wire every day and actually actually doing the house to house fighting and making sure that we were taking it to the enemy. I'm just like, we we've run this experiment. It doesn't work. It doesn't work, does not work. And if you ever ask a general for an opinion, it's probably the worst advice because obviously generals

are going to be pro war. Generals are politicians. This is what I'm trying to tell everybody. They're politicians. They are, And so I tell people, you know, look at the PAC money that the elected officials are taking. You know someone's looking for a lobbying gig with Raytheon or you know any one of these military contracting firms. Well, then obviously they're going to be voting to get us involved. But when you really look at the benefits that it

does for a country. One, it's only increasing our deficit. Two, we're losing good people while we have all of these you know, woke topians on the internet saying that we need to be putting you know, little boys and girls dresses and this, that and the other. I mean, it's so backwards, and I think that when you're really looking at the true sacrifice of what we have to offer as a country, we need to fix our problems at

home first. We can't be focusing on, you know, doing gender education in Afghanistan, saying our tax dollars and people over there to do it. It's just not right. And you know, I do tend to call out other veterans that have been promoting the war agenda because I look at what they're really representing, and are they representing our service members And the answer is absolutely not. So I'd be the first person, especially in the presidential primary, to

call these people out. And you know, I used to look up to NICKI Haley. I will no longer do so because I believe that she's one of those Republicans. I think You're right, Anna, Paulina Luna, everybody Anna where ship folks go to follow you in your work. I would say Twitter, but don't follow me on Twitter because I'm ann strike on Twitter. So any other social media at real on apol have they come after you have woke started to like ban you or suspending? Yeah, I

have actually an ongoing suit with Twitter right now. So we're actually working with Senator Loomas out in Wyoming to bring a cross action against U. Want to come come back this for a couple of minutes, Hold on, We're gonna continue to talk about the censorship from social media and we'll get into that with Anna Polina Luna here. In just one second, you're in the freedom Hunt. Thanks for listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Get the latest from Buck at buck Sexton dot com. All right,

continuing my conversation with Anna Paulina Luna. We're here at Seapack in Orlando and she's sitting with me in broadcast Row, which is always a fun place to be. I hope a lot of you from team Buck would come by and say hi, And it was kind of funny. I guess the phrase the close of the show is shields High, and it was great. The first person I saw here saw me and gave me this big wink and went shields up and I was like post like I like it, you know like that that I get it. I'm with you.

You get it. He gets it. He gets an a for effort um. But uh, but tell me this, um. We're talking about social media stuff. So you've you've been in an in a lawsuit. What's going on? So I filed the FEC complaint against Twitter for an illegal in kind contribution by failing to verify and suppressing my information

when I was a candidate. And now that that's going up for review, we actually found a senator, Senator Loomis in Wyoming that actually found out what was happening with me and actually reached out to some of our donors. So we're working on a class action now currently against Twitter. And it's interesting because the RNC has a similar case. In fact, we share the same attorney, but they filed

a day after me. And now with DeSantis's big tech bill that he's pushing, it would allow the state of Florida to find companies like Twitter and Facebook, you know, a penalty per day that they suppressed candidates. So when I actually went through and totaled up the amount that Twitter would actually owe the state of Florida, pending that they do it again in a future election of mine, it would be three million dollars per month that they

suppressed me. So that's pretty substantial for the state of Florida. This is great. I really want because the only way this changes is if we start inflicting pain on these companies for the decisions to suppress conservatives, which they're act be doing. So any way that I can help get the word out about this, I definitely want to want to do whatever I can because we will. I keep telling everybody this. You know, a lot of people listen

to this on radio. They're on Facebook but maybe not that active, but they're not really generally a lot of them on you know, on TikTok and on Instagram, and if when I say on it, they're not using it daily in quite the same way. You know, where we have a lot of people who are you know, let's say forty and up who listen to listen to terrestrial radio.

And so I think it's hard to it's hard for people who don't work in this space to really grasp what it means that social media companies are doing this. What it means is that all the websites, all the news organizations, every political issue that you care about is slanted against you now even if you don't use these

things correct. And I think that's what I think when when people understand that this is we can't win as a party if the biggest, most powerful media companies in the country are actively suppressing us while pretending to be open platforms that having that section to thirty protection, it's game over. It's game over. And they're also too now launching these fact checking organizations. The DNC actually just launched one. It's twenty two million dollars in fact checking against memes.

So they're actually controlling the information. And then as most people know a meme as a joke, it's usually a satire, and they're wanting to fact check that and then actually bring punitive action against people that share those memes if

they don't agree with the information that's on them. So I've been targeted for multiple times for what I say about masks and about and by the way, I'm not like, I'm not a hardcore person about you know, things never work or I'll never do restrictions or whatever, but i'd know that I know what nonsense is, and I'll call out nonsense. I mean the fact that we're sitting here, for example, and the rules just everybody knows are a

broadcast roll. Your mask can be down. If you stand up, though, and your three feet from the radio table, then the rules set by the Hyatt, not set by Sepack are you must have a mask on right away. There is no epidemiological basis for this whatsoever. There's no reason to believe that anyone who is walking past is more or less of it in danger. So I put on things like that. They the fact checkers that have come after me, like PolitiFact and these other ones. These are left wing hacks.

It's basically media matters they're using. There are five or one c three and you know what happens when they when they ding you on something and then you you want to complain and say this is unfair. Yeah you have I think it's actually thirty six hours to contact them back, and if you miss that window, then that's it. They're not required to respond. And what's even worse is if you are someone like you or me and you have a monetized page, they then take your ability to

use that for engagement and folks. You know what they tell you to do. They say, take it up with the fact checker. Directly. That's what Facebook will do, do you now, Facebook will say take it up with the fact checker. This is like saying, hey, my house has been robbed and you go to the you go to what you think of the police, and they're like, go ask the burglar to give it back to it true. That is what they're doing to you. I mean, it's

it's amazing and it's appalling at the same time. I just wish that everybody would understand what the real implications of this are, because we're not going to win any political arguments going forward if we don't win on this. Well in other countries are really seeing what they did to the president. So ultimately you have places like Australia and India and even the United Kingdom that are coming against these organizations because they realize control of social media's

control of election and its control of information. It's absolutely the case. Anna, Polina, Luna, everybody. Anna. Always great to have you here on the Buck Sexton Show. Thanks for coming to Seepack and we'll have you on again soon. Thanks guys. This is the Buck Sexton show podcast. Follow Buck on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. All Right, continuing with some of our favorite people here in person with me

at Sepack. We have a fellow that you might know from his radio show, A Great Show on the West Coast on Seattle's KTTH, but also from his frequent appearances on Tucker Carlson Show on Fox News talking about the crazy left coast woke maniacs. We've got Jason in rants with us. Now, Jason, how you doing. I'm doing well. It's very interesting because you come out here from Seattle to Orlando, and if this was happening in Seattle, one, it wouldn't happen in Seattle. But if it were NonStop protests,

there's everyone. You're so nice, everyone friendly, everyone I walk up everywhere that I see in the hotel and everything that aren't even a part of Seapack. They're just like, well, hello, how are you so weird not to have Antifa here? Like this is what you used to start to ask these questions. If you're gonna get antievan Orlando. Something tells me they're going to have to make the trip in but they don't work and they don't drive, so how they're going to get here. What we don't know, but

you know we'll see on Sunday. So let's talk about what we're seeing here right now in this Biden administration. It's fascinating to me because you know, you're a guy. You have the advantage. I remember when I when I first came into media, I just left the CIA, and of course, and uh, I wasn't doing both the same time. I swear, despite what some people conspiracy through it say, I started covering Occupy Wall Street in New York City.

It started right down on Wall Street near Wall Street in New York City, and you got that day to day contact with these groups, and you really there's there's no replacement for being around them, talking to them, knowing them. You have that. I mean Seattle, which is a city I will say I've never been to, always wanted to go Seattle. I had thought of as it's like the Gray's Anatomy City and Kelsey Grammar on the show Frazier and all this stuff. Now people in their minds they

have this it's like a lunatic asylum of Antifa. And I know that's not the whole city and everybody there, but you're around them. How does the city view this every day. How does the city of Seattle handle these left wing they embrace media. I mean, that's part of

the issue with Seattle, right. I mean, you've got a council and a mayor's office that does not address virtually any of the violence any of these groups, and they kind of pretend that Antiva doesn't exist, just like the Jerry Nadler's and the Joe Bidens of the world, pretending it's a myth. And yet we all know it's not. We've got all the images, we know who these people are, and we've seen some arrests and prosecutions. They're very rare, and usually we see them on a federal level, but

it's obviously happening. The problem is there's a large contingency of people in Seattle who are sympathetic to the cause. They might not agree with all of the tactics. They don't support the violence per se, but they can justify it. And that is a dangerous place to be where you can say, Okay, I don't like violence, but in this case, we'll give it a pass because their hearts are in

the right place. What happened really with the chaz meaning we know that they set up this Capitol Hill, which is so confusing for East Coasters because we all assume we hear Capitol Hill. We think obviously where Congress is in the Capitol Building. But the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone the CHAZ, which I know they changed to the CHOP the Capitol Hill occupy protests for like a couple of days.

I think they went back because CHATZ sounded better than was the one they settled with, which does sound better than it does sound better, but it went away, but then there's an effort to bring it back. Is that

Where does it stand right now? So it doesn't exist anymore, there's no occupied zone, but it is still the center of where when they do try to engage in their activism, they usually show up right outside of the East Precinct, which is the police station within that zone that they've been trying to drive out of the community, which of course would be a total disaster, but that's where they

generally go. Now. Across the street is a park it's called cal Anderson Park, which again was part of the zone. A few weeks ago, probably at this point six to eight weeks ago or so, there was a homeless encampment there that they built a wall around ironically, and they try to occupy it. This time the city said no, no, no, we're not going to allow you to do that, so they took over. It's amazing, it's insane that this is

what a modern American city will go through. What I mean, you talk obviously to people in law enforcement in Seattle. I mean, this is your hometown, right, this is where you're based out of. What do the cops think about this? Well, I mean from you know, from the rank and file all the way up to the top. Well, I'll give you this. We had a historic number of officers leaving the Seattle Police Department. Last year. You had one hundred

and ninety seven. Now, to put that in context, we had a crisis of staffing about two three years ago and that number was one hundred and ten. So it is getting worse. There's no sign that it's stopping. The police don't want to work in Seattle because they don't. No one has their backs at all. I mean, you've got a council that this story is maddening to me because no one knows about it, because only a few

of us were actually talking about it. And thanks to Fox News, who actually were able to get it out there. You had a group of Antifa thugs who use quick dry cement to seal shut the door to the East precinct, while at the same time, on the other side of the building, you had activists trying to set fire to it. They try to burn people inside of that police precinct alive, and not a single council member said anything. I reached out to every single one. I thought, this one, you

know what, everyone could come together. This is wrong, this is attempted murder. Not a single one said anything, and that for a lot of cops said it all and they decided, yeah, I'm done. They were waiting for that straw. And that was that unbelievable do you have We're speaking of Jason Rants. He's a host on k T th and so so Jason is Seattle in a decline the way that other major American cities are because of the woke madness de Blasio's New York City. We had the

purge night. It happened, all my block storefronts destroyed. NYPD furious beyond words because they were basically both overwhelmed and knew that they didn't have the backing to do what they had to do, which is, you know, you got to throw people in flex cuffs and arrest them, and you need overwhelming fort You need overwhelming for us, otherwise you get mobbed. And that's what happens San Francisco, everybody knows about. I don't know what else to say on them.

The poop app where you're finding and just want a mess. Everything literally would a mess. Everything is on the streets there and people are fleeing in large numbers, hundreds of thousands where Seattle on that order, do people kind of embrace the vagrancy and the insanity because that's where their

politics are and so they're not yet fleeing. This is where you really do have to live there to fully understand the weird dynamic, because on the one hand, you absolutely have people who want to pretend that it is somehow compassionate to allow people to sleep out on the streets and in parks and in alleyways, because if you were to move them or clean up any of their trash, they'll say, that's not trash, that's their personal belongings. We

have to treat these people with compassion. They're human beings, which is weird because that level of compassion means you're staying out on the streets and you're living in filth, right, But then you also have a vacancy rate in apartments, which is really what you can track if you want to know if people are leaving, and it's through the roof. You have in the downtown in South Lake Union Area hitting ten percent vacancy rates for those apartments they're fleeing.

Don't know where they're going yet. We're starting to see some anecdotal data that people are leaving Washington State, but for the most part that neighborhood is occupied by Amazon workers. Amazon has been closed down for in person visits for a year. So when you start to think about, Okay, do I want to spend twenty five hundred three thousand dollars a month on a small studio apartment when I can't use any of the amenities because every single park

nearby is taken over by the homeless. We have a city where we have just hit a twenty six year high homicide rate. We've got crime just going through the roof. They're saying no, and they're moving. My suspicion is they're just moving across the lake. I mean, they're going into Belvie, the greater east side of King County, which is more affordable, much more beautiful, and you've got a council that actually cares. Is there a sense that the blue state mentality though

that that obviously is pervasive in Seattle? Are more people, so I will tell you this. I was a part of a of a Have you done any of these clubhouse calls or I have been working in the background. I just did a clubhouse call with a bunch of other lifelong New Yorkers in media, including people somebody who actually worked at the Washington Works, the Washington Post, people from New York Post. I mean, but you know a

lot of media people. And it was all the one unifying characteristic of everybody in the call who was speaking was I love New York. I think it's in big trouble and and I'm willing to say that even if there were some Democrats are part of this too. Is that happening where you are? Are even Democrats starting to realize this can't we can't have the chop or the chats or whatever. We can't have this. More of them are starting to realize that. And it's always been interesting.

I talked to a activist about a month ago. Her name is Andreas Suarez, and she started a group called I Love Downtown Seattle, and she explained to me that once the pandemic hit and everyone for the most part was staying at home except for the homeless, when she would walk in her neighborhood of downtown Seattle, she realized how bad it actually was and it finally kind of

hit her to say, this can't continue. We've got people who are wandering around like their zombies because they're high out of their minds and they're living out on the streets. And when that's all you see, then you do have that lightbulb moment. It's not happening fast enough, though. I keep saying people say, you know things are going to turn around. I don't think we've at rock bottom yet, and that's what we need to do in order to

see a significant shift. And that we haven't hit rock bottom with what we're currently going through is terrifying to me because I live in Seattle. I'm not a Seattle talk show host who lives in the suburb. I live in the heart of Seattle, and I'm seeing this every single day. I live right next to Times Square, Manhattan the same thing. So I feel like I'm right near the pulsing heart which now is corroded. Yeah, and it's increasing increasingly smelly and not healthy. But anyway, Jason, Yeah,

there we go, Jason Rance. Jason, thanks so much for all your work. We really appreciate it. Thank you for having me. I really do appreciate it. This is the Buck Sexton Shoe Podcast. Follow Buck on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. Are continuing with our trend of fantastic guests here in person with me right next to me. Today here at Seapack in Orlando, we've got my friend John Lot. He is the author, of course of More Guns, Less Crime. His latest book is Gun Control Myths, and you can

read his research at crimeresearch dot org. John. Great to see it, Great to see you again, Buck. So we're all expecting that there are going to be some major gun control efforts from this Biden administration. They've talked about it, they were talking about it certainly during the campaign in twenty twenty. What have we seen so far and where

do you think this is going to go? Well, one thing that they've done so far, I don't know if you remember Operation Choke Point at the end of the Obama administration where basically the federal government put pressure on financial institutions not to do business with companies that the Obama administration didn't approve of. So, like, you know, a company may find that financial institutions would refuse to handle credit cards from customers, or handle checks, or not even

given them a check encounter or loans. Trump ended that policy, and he was in the process of finalizing regulations that forbid the federal government from engaging in that type of discrimination against law abiding companies they're producing law lawful products. The problem is the final rules were set to be published in the Federal Register a couple of weeks ago, and right before they were supposed to come out, the

Biden administration pulled them. And so presumably they'll be able to go back to going and targeting companies or whatever that they don't find politically attractive there. You know, it's just a way of using the regulatory power of the government to put out a business gun makers and gun sellers, or people in the energy business or whatever that they

don't approve of. What do you think the chances are that we're going to be faced with a real effort at an assault weapons ban, you know, some of the big ticket items if you will, that the left always the Democrats always talk about when it comes to gun control, is there is there a serious effort you think that will be underway to do that. I don't think legislatively you'll get something that through. I think the things that they'll do are just to try to make it more

costly for people to have guns. And we can talk about some of the bills I think might go through. But with the tutory changes, well, what to tell me? Tell me the bills that we'll go through them, we'll get into executive orders and regulatory issues. I think the one that's probably most likely to get through is background checks on the private transfers of guns. You know, um in DC where they already have it, it costs one hundred and twenty five dollars to privately transfer a gun

just to do the background check. Uh. It's one thing that I actually try to work on when I was in the Trump administration. You know, the deep state is there. I just give you one story from when I was there. I convinced the Bureau of Justice Statistics to try to get data on the false positives for the background checks. Because we will hear constantly about three and a half million dangerous inhibited people have been stopped from buying guns,

and that's simply not true. What they should say is there have been three and a half million initial denials and something over ninety nine percent of those are false positives, and it's particularly minority mails that are being discriminated against. And so when I was in Washington, I tried to get data on the false positives that are there the FBI. We got the Bureau of Justice Statistics to ask the

FBI for the data. The FBI first of all try to convince us that nobody would be interested in, you know, the rate that black mails and Hispanic mails are being discriminated against in the background check system. And then they went silent for about five weeks and then finally got back to us two days after the election and insisted that the that the Bureau of Justice Statistics had to do a foyer request from the FBI to go and get the data. And of course nobody you had ever

heard of something like that. And then they told us that we weren't going to be able to get it anyway until after January twentieth, and they assured us that the Biden administration would not be interested in that type of data. So just one of many stories I can tell you from kind of uh, kind of the politicization of the FBI that's there, But I think that's probably the one. You got the Tomy mansion bill that's going to come up again, and I think that's one thing

that's there. So are they are they going to come after people's guns? I mean, this is always the concern. Are there any realistic chances you think that they're going to try a mandatory buy back program through executive order to clare a you know, a gun violent state of emergency? I mean, what are people worried about? The more radical possibilities? I think I think the one that they're likely to do is h is classifying different weapons as as Class

three weapons. You know what that is is basically machine guns right now, but during the campaign, Biden wanting to classify semi automatic rifles as Class three and magazines that hold over ten rounds. So that would require a two hundred dollars fee for each of those items that you would have, and you'd have to register and license them. Basically, it's about a nine month approval process right now to go through it. I assume if they expand it the

way they would would dramatically increase that time. I'm sure they'll be lawsuits if they try to do something like that.

But the problem is is that the Democrats control the DC Circuit where everything goes through, and you're you know, there was seven to four Democratic majority on that court, and you know it could be four or five years before something like that would eventually get to the Supreme Court, and so for some period of time they would be able to go and impose attacks and require registration licensing of the guns and items that they wanted to classify

that way. Speaking to John, his latest book is Gun Control Myths, and you've got a crime research dot org for his latest research. John, it we got about a minute left or so. I just wrote a book, Gun control Myths. What is the what is the gun control myth that you find is the most pernicious or I mean the one that just drives you crazy that people believe or that's out there and it's just not true. Well, it's hard to pick one, but if I were to pick one, I'd say the notion that the United States

is somehow unique in terms of mass public shootings. We make up about four and a half percent of the world population, but we actually make up less than one percent of the world's mass public shootings and fatalities from those attacks. You know, even Europe, you know, these cases

just don't get news coverage. I mean, France had more casualties from mass public shootings in twenty fifteen than the United States had during the entire eight years of the Obama presidency, at five hundred and thirty two compared to five hundred and twenty seven casualties in the United States. You know, Russia has casualties from mass public shootings that's about fifty percent higher than the rate in the United States. You don't hear about university shootings or school shootings that

occur in Russia. I mean, they may get one little story and buried in the back of a newspaper here in the United States. And yet a country like Russia has incredibly strict gun control. You have other countries in in Western Europe, that Eastern Europe that have very high rates. So we aren't we aren't some anomaly with mass shootings that don't happen anywhere else. And the media always seems to suggest that that is the case for more gun control myths busted. You should go check out John's book

Gun Control Myths and got a Crime Research dot Org. John, Good to see you man in person. Great to see you. Thanks for having me on. You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Make sure you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeart Radio app or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, road call Facebook dot com, slash buck sex in until they kick me off Facebook forever for telling

you the truth, or Team Bucket iHeartMedia dot com. Hopefully they're not going to kick us off the servers there, so we'll still have an email address. It's the world we live in now. We've got to use the communications platforms we've got while we've got them. So that's where we That's where we are with all this stuff. And now let's let's get into it. I canna tell you, it's so nice to be down here and in sunny Florida at Sea pack in Orlando. Producer Mark, It's um,

it's looking good here, man. I don't know. I think I think you and missus Mark would be very happy. Maybe Coco Beach a little east if here. It's pretty nice, and we'd be very close to Disney and Universal. I love those parks, you know, I've never been to either. Really, and you're in Orlando, you gotta go, you gotta go over now. I don't think they're open. Yeah they are. Oh, no,

of course they are. It's Florida. That's what happens when you when you're from New York, You're like, nothing is open. Then you got to Florida, you go, wait a second, it's all open. And I hadn't even thought I had

even thought about that one. Um. Well, anyway, it's really nice here, having a good time, enjoying myself, and uh, I'm seeing a lot of friends, which is great people that it's nice to touch base with them and say thank you for all the hits they do on the radio show and seeing them in person, and also just seeing some of the people who listen to this show. Uh, you know you really we've all been so isolated the last year. I mean, basically, my only friend every day

is producer Mark and Tallulah. There's the only people I hang out with every day. So you can imagine it's nice to see human beings. Mark, You're still you know, in the cave in Jersey. But you're all right, yeah, you're You're my only friend now, you know, Yeah, I know that's Mark and I hang out with each other every day and then all the rest of you get

to hear it. Um. But let's let's get into what you think, what you have to say here, And like I said, please use the Facebook, um or you can obviously send me messages on Instagram to Mark's got all that stuff. Let's get to it, David, hey Buck. I live very close to my alma mater, the univer Versia Richmond, so I drive through the campus pretty regular to see what's going on. It's a small student population on a large campus, so there are mostly students walking alone and

they're all wearing masks. They've been brainwashed. It's unbelievable. They're also glued to their phone while they're walking. I almost root for them to walk into a lightpost. It's very unsettling to see these young minds being controlled by the garbage they've been fed by the media. Keep up the great work you and produce your mark do. You're a great team. Well, David, thank you so much, and thank you for having such excellent taste in radio to listen

to this show. And I will tell you this, it's very hard to know if someone is brainwashed or if they're just being forced. You know, I'm here in Florida, I have to get up and the moment when I'm sitting and broadcasting, I don't have to wear a mask because thank god, they realize that that would muffle my voice. And I mean, what's next, They're gonna make me wear a hat to cover up my hair? This is insane. Can't You're not buck without the voice in the hair? Right.

That's how I feel, and I gotta I gotta do everything that I can do to just be compliance so that I can keep broadcasting and doing my show. But of course I think this is idiocy, and of course there's no medical or scientific reason. But you have a lot of things going on. You have fear of liability out there. Places don't want to get sued, and Democrats have been fighting every step of the way. Business is getting liability protection for COVID because they have power. They

like power, So there's the liability protection issue. There's people who are truly terrified, and we all have to sort of bend the knee and make them feel better all the time, even though they're terror maybe deeply irrational, but there are terrified individuals walking around. And there's also people that like to control others. And then there the people that just want to go about their lives but can't do And I know that's people who listen to this show.

I don't wear a mask because I think they're right. I wear a mask because if I don't, they attack me, they come after me. They tell me you can't be here, you're you're now trespassing. You're gonna be escorted from the premises. So this is why I always say individual non compliance is the equivalent of charging the machine gun nest without

a plan to take it. Mass non compliance right, if you're one person who and you know, I hate the blocking highways thing, for example, I absolutely hate that tactic. I think it's awful and selfish and terrible. But I mean, if you're one person blocking a highway, the cops are gonna show up, they're gonna put you in cuffs, and they're gonna take you away. If you're three hundred people blocking a highway, now all of a sudden, it's a

different calculation. Now, now maybe you know you're gonna get attention for the cause, and there's gonna be people, and then that's the way the activist Olynskyites have been able to get so much by by using these kinds of tactics in the past. So individual noncompliance when it comes to masks is not a good idea. It has to be a movement. And I know people say, well, how do you get a movement unless an individual starts it. It's a fair point, and maybe there'll be someone who

decides something. Basically, people are gonna have to be willing to get arrested for not wearing a mask. And I'm not saying, you know, if you're around a bunch of senior citizens indoors and no, I mean, you know, use your judgment, right, But people are going to be arrested. Until people are willing to get arrested for not wearing a mask and actually get handcuffed and processed and having arrest on their record for whatever it is, this will continue.

I mean, that's basically where I and that's what I've decided, and I'm not yet at the point where I think it's useful for me to be a person that is doing that. I'm still trying to advocate for the end of these policies. But there probably will come a point at which I say, you know what, all right, We've tried try to be reasonable, We've try to work with the law, and you know then, and that's, by the way, civil disobedience. I'm not harming anyone. I'm not hurting anyone,

not destroying anyone's property or building. But I'll say, okay, I'm unwilling to abide by this law, and I will I will deal with the consequences as a means of raising raising my voice within society. I don't think we're there yet, but I'm not sure we're never going to be there, and I think that we should all be very clear on that there is that possibility that at some point in the future we will be there. Gina Hi Buck. The last seventy two hours the New cycle

have been crazy. We are told we need to be less white, that we need to eat synthetic meat because we are rich, that children need to suck it up in deal. That Fauci is Maximus Fauci, and he knows the way that any news outlet who doesn't ban opposing

opinions be destroyed. That the Supreme court decided that election law doesn't matter, but the ex president's tax returns due, the man who would be Attorney general has no idea of the law, and that A member of the Clinton's cabinet admits, we have become a totalent care in government. It has now reached a fever pitch. I like you have never been so afraid of our government or the power at wields. I'm eighteen years older than you, said

the pledge, saying the anthem, learned civics in school. Please tell me there's a way out, a way back, because short of all out civil war, I don't see it. These people are evil, but it seems to me there's no avenue available to us feeling laws. Please give us your thoughts and some hope. Shields hide Gina. The best, the best advantage that conservatives have is the actions of Democrats in power. I mean that's for making the case.

We can talk about all the great things that we would like to do, and look, Trump did some very good things. Other things were unfinished. There's no question about that. Right. We can talk about what we want to do that's positive, but what really mobilizes people is their revulsion against the

negative here's an example of this. When you go on a lot of websites to check out what people think of different restaurants, you'll notice something a lot of five star reviews and then a lot of one star reviews. Why is that, Well, sure people will say that they think of place is great, but there's not a lot of people want to show up and give a three star review. Why is that? Because they don't want to take the time, They don't feel as engaged. Okay, it was fine, right, I love it or I hate it?

Is that those are motivators. It was okay, you pay your check, you go home. Politics, there's a similar effect, except it's a lot harder through policy, being the I love it category, i'd say, than at a restaurant, although you know it depends. But I hate it, Oh yeah, there's a lot I hate it in politics and Democrats making the country suffer, making us poorer, making us less free, making us more miserable as a people. That's not going

to be a game changer for for everybody. Obviously, there are people who like what they're doing, who like the insanity, but it is something that that big group of people in the middle may very well decide they've had enough.

It is something that could be a game changer for those swing voters in places like swing voters in places like Arizona who didn't come out or came out for Biden, you know, in places like Michigan and Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, and there is still a pathway to political power for conservatives.

Make no mistake about it. I know we feel so defeated right now, but if we fight on the battlefields that are available to us, and if we make sure that we push back, I mean, I think that social media censorship is the single biggest threat we face to our republic right now in terms of free speech. I mean, there's nothing else that comes close to it. If we have those fights and we can begin to win those fights, will be in a better place. And don't gina. I

mean the slogan of this show, the maxim. I prefer that term. The maxim of this show is shields high for a reason. Notice it's not it's not swords high, right, It's not there, because really, what it means to be a conservative is to embrace the fact that you're often going to be taking incoming and you're going to be on defense. That's what It means you're going to have

to be trying to save things. You're gonna have to be trying to conserve, and that means that you are you are the recipient of the incoming and you stand tall and strong and defend what you can. That's why we're shields high here. That's why we do what we do. Bobby, Bobby Buck, you need to get away from the big Apple. You're on the ledge and you need to step back.

The contempt and disdain in your voice is palpable. I agree with you, but I live in a free state of Mississippi very near the sanity stricken state of Florida. I'm less than one hundred miles in the Florida line on the Mississippi Gulf coast, and we are saying down here. Restaurants, bars, casinos are all open, and some are very lax on the useless masking. Some don't enforce at all. You need to get out of that hell hole of New York City and come to a saner environment. It will make

your already good radio show even better. See you when you get here, Bobby. I appreciate that, and I'll tell you this meant I'm so torn on this issue, and I really am. I mean, Mark knows we're not. I'm not just like kidding around about moving to Florida. I'm very serious about it. I'm conversations with family members, having conversations with the snow Princess. I mean, I'm having I'm talking to people who matter most to me about maybe

moving to Florida and what that would mean. I've never thought that before in my life, but I have seen a side of the Democrat authoritarian mentality that I it's it's at a whole new level. Now, it's at a whole it's in a whole new place. And the viciousness, I mean, they really because they're they're so sort of fearful, and there's such a lack of internal courage and character within the leftist mentality. They're looking for people to blame.

They really think, I mean, it is a widespread belief on the left in America that Trump voters and Republicans in general are responsible for the spread of COVID, that we are uniquely responsible for the spread of COVID. They actually think that, they really believe that, and that's deeply troubling because one it's insane. I mean, yeah, I guess we're also for the spread of COVID in Italy and the UK and Spain and Brazil and you know, go

down the list. But beyond it being being uniquely insane in that sense, it also means that there is a justification for viciousness that is almost endless, and a justification for heavy handedness in public policy that should be very unsettling to everybody. So heavy handedness is an understatement, by the way, So uh, you know, that's kind of that's where we are right now. That's what we're seeing, and I am concerned about it. But then you say, well, buck,

why haven't you already moved. I've got a family in New York City, and there's a part of me, honestly that doesn't want to abandon my fellow conservatives in the heart of the biggest blue city in the country. You know, I speak to them long. I speak to them every day on a station in New York City. I've got a lot of people listen to podcasts public to my podcast who live in New York City, And there's a part of me that's like, I don't want to leave

them behind on the on the blue state battlefield. But there's only so much a man can take. By the same token, there's maybe maybe continuing to help in the exodus from New York might be the best possible thing, So I'm thinking about it. You're in the freedom hunt. Thanks for listening to the buck Sexton Show podcast. Get the latest from Bucket buck Sexton dot Com. All right, rollcall continuing here, Kim, you said and yesterday's show, Trump

should get a B plus. There could have been improvements. I'd give him a standing ovation and send him straight to heaven for putting up with the dishonest Democrats. Considering the alternative, he was excellent, well, Kim in that sense in the binary, it is true that Trump was far better than that Hillary would have been, and I gave him. I give him credit on trade, on judges, on calling out the fake news media and really creating a whole

paradigm for fighting back against them. I gave him credit for not starting any new wars, for a very strong ecount me and very low unemployment. I mean, there's a lot about Trump that I'm at the front of the line saying these are clearly great things for the country, but there are also things that didn't get done, and there were missus, and I just try to be very honest with you all about that. I think that we have a better conversation. You know, I'm criticizing Trump from

within the family, you know what I mean. I'm criticizing Trump from the perspective of somebody who supported him, voted for him twice, advocated for everybody else to vote for him. And you know, in that sense, I mean not that I'm the coach of team Trump, because that would be very grandios. But I come in at the way that a coach speaks to his team, which is and a team that just had a big loss. Let's be honest, the team just lost. So that's that's something I think

we have to consider here. We did just have a big loss, and we could talk about how it was unfair and all this other stuff, and that's fine, but a loss, and you know, an L is an L, and there's an L on the scoreboard, and we need to be honest about that. But Kim that said, if you want to give it an A because you love him,

God bless and your opinion is every bit. And this is one thing that I really believe a lot of other I think radio host don't necessarily believe at all every opinion of every person listening to this is absolutely as valid as mine when it comes to Trump and politics and all the rest of it. I just try to put on a good show with a lot of information for all of you. But every other person here you know I'm wrong about things sometimes. I admit that

sometimes I get things wrong. Sometimes I'm off, And actually a lot of the time when I realize I'm wrong, it's because people in this audience tell me. Terrence greetings from Soul, South Korea, that the branch of Team Buck International. I was just flipping through the channels after work and had to stop and watch the ending of my favorite Mel Gibson movie. While watching, I remembered something that has always bothered me, being oss. I know well your affinity

for Braveheart and agree it's a very good film. But also, but I believe you also give The Patriot very high marks. But in all the years we've listened to you, I've never heard you mentioned what I could said to be his best movie, We Were Soldiers. I'm stuck two possibilities. One, you don't think it's worthy to be included, or you haven't seen it. I find it to be inconceivable, So I was hoping you'd shed light on this. You can. I can sleep safe and warmly at night. Thanks Buckshieldside well,

Terrence Man. Great to have you right again from South Korea. Love it Team Bucks, South Korea in the house. And as for We Were Soldiers, it's a great movie. I've seen it many times. I think it's fantastic. It's it might it might even make it into my top ten top ten more movies. I'm gonna be honest you though, it's probably more like a top fifteen or top twenty for me. But it is a great movie, and it might be. It might be in the top ten. And

it's very true to life and accurate. I mean I've read about that battle specifically, and also the leader that Mel Gibson portrays, you know how, And I mean he was beloved by his troops and he was he was as real deal as it gets. So We Were Soldiers highly recommend on the Buck recommendation list. All right, day one here at Seapack in the books. Friends, thanks so much for listening. Sorry if the sound of the background made a little difficult sometimes, but we're bringing you a

different experience. The next couple of days. We'll be back normal on Monday. Until then, Team Shield Hie