You're listening to the Buck Sexton Joe podcast, make sure you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Over a year into the presidency of Joe Biden, and America's border crisis continues to get worse. Between policies that fail to discourage illegal entry and inept leadership from so called Border Czar Kamala Harris, Vice President, the White House appears unwilling or unable to take the issue seriously, or perhaps they just want more
illegal immigration. In this special edition of Whole of the Line, will take a look at America's ongoing illegal migrant surge and how the Biden administration has failed in its obligation to secure America's southern border. Welcome to the special edition of Hold the Line. I'm Buck Sexton. The numbers don't lie. In fact, they tell the tale quite clearly. We have just gone through the worst twelve months or so at
our southern border in history. And this is occurring at a time when the Biden regime is in the midst of various failures, scandals, and clear mismanagement, whether it's of the economy, of national security, of you name it, add the border the list that it feels like the Biden administration is just at this point unable to see straight.
I mean, they can't figure out anything unless you start to take the different position that maybe this is all about violation of sovereignty in this country as a policy, that the more illegals we have, the more likely it is over time to tip the balance in this country demographically, and when it comes to voters in favor of the Democrat Party, the newly awry, particularly those who arrive illegally, are more likely to want state benefits and help from
the government, and therefore the party of government, of big government, the Democrats, are going to get their votes. It's just a question of when you legalize them, when the amnesty happens right. Plus, at the local and state level, as we know, illegal immigrants are treated as though they are citizens places like California and New York, giving them benefits, giving them drivers, licenses, in state tuition, you name it.
So how bad is the problem getting If you believe that we should have some say over who comes into this country, where do we stand, Well, here's a graph showing that encounters from fiscally, you're twenty twenty two, twenty twenty one, and twenty twenty tell quite a story. As you can see here, it's already fiscally, you're twenty twenty two, we're hitting early records, and as the year goes on,
it's likely numbers will go up considerably. So we may in fact have the highest the highest level of encounters at our southern border of all time. Now, by encounters, let's be clear, we mean migrant who are being arrested for entering the country illegally. That's what they mean by encounters. Now, in many cases that these are family units, they'll actually wave down border patrol. I've seen this myself, so this is not theoretical. This is not just reporting from other folks.
I've been there. They'll wave down the border patrol and then tell them, often very in very scripted terms, that they want asylum in this country because they're abusing the asylum process. That's the whole point of it, right. That's one end run. But as Title forty two will be coming to an end soon, there'll be an even larger flood of migrants that we had previously seen. Because one of the only ways that border patrol had been able to quickly turn back, those who enter in the country
illegally will be gone. That tool will be out of the toolbox, so to speak. So what are we expecting, Well, the biggest influx of illegal immigrants in the history of this country in a short period of time, and the Biden administration has no answers. In fact, they are best option, it seems at this point, is to just lie about it as aggressively as they can. I mean, here was Jensaki back in April of twenty twenty one telling you don't worry. The influx of illegals is a cyclical and seasonal.
Secretary Maorch has put out a statement saying this is the highest case of border crossing in twenty years. Yesterday President's Hiden made it seem like this is not too unusual compared to other previous years. That tears of the number of people trying to cross the borders, it's about average.
Those don't seem to square. How does the administration view this in terms of whether this press netted or whether this is an increase all The President was making the point that we have seen increases at the border in twenty fourteen when he was the vice president. Twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen, and he conveyed that over the last six months of the Trump administration there was an increase
of about thirty one percent. We've seen an increase of about twenty nine percent over the last several months since he took office. So the point is, we've dealt with this before. It is often seasonal, is often cyclical, and he just wanted to convey that in his effort to communicate and provide educational information to the public. Well, here we are a year later, and we know that it
was neither seasonal nor cyclical. It was an all time record, and that you've had almost two million people come into the country illegally over the last twelve months. And those numbers are estimates at some level. We don't know everybody who's entering illegally across the southern border. They estimate how many gadaways they are, they don't actually know. And the numbers on this are just looking increasingly like the Biden
administration is swap. I mean, they don't know how to get through this without the American people actually see there's a major problem here, and so that then brings us to maybe they just try to lie about it. I mean, here is the OMB director saying that so far border crossings are you know, in line with what we've seen in the past. Watch. Look, we have a pattern of migration, and we are preparing to ramp up for a traditional
pattern of additional people coming across the border. My question is, what do you support eliminating town to forty two deportation authority. I don't have a personal opinion. I believe we from a resource position or putting forth enough money to deal with a historic pattern historic. Now, if she means historic by record setting, then that's true. If she means in
line with historic norms, that's not true. And it's probably going to be in the months of June, July, and August the most we have ever seen because right now the word is out. People know that at our southern border there are a variety of ways to gain the system and get into the country, and they know that
border patrol is overstretched. They know that if they want to just do a run into the country, whether it's vehicular or on foot with drugs with fentanyl that is poisoning over one hundred thousand Americans a year, or I should say one hundred thousand overdoses a year, seventy five percent of which are opioids, A large percentage of that is fentanyl. This is all happening at our southern border right now, and what does the Biden administration's view of
how to stop this. They're going to send down more resources that make it easier to process the people who are illegally entering the country. That's where we currently stand on this one. There's no plan to make this stop because they don't want to make it stop, and that brings us then full circle. Why wouldn't this continue to get worse? The Biden administration does not. The Democrat left does not illegal immigration as something that is undesirable. They
would like more of it. They want more people coming into the country who are illegal, because then they're going to claim but they need to have an amnesty. This amnesty will be for tens of millions of illegals and it will forever change the American political Landscape's Oh, they're gonna say it's not going to be voting rights. Sure, we'll see the moment they get an amnesty, how long
it won't be for voting rights? Claim will last. Of course, they're going to end up having full citizenship and voting rights down the line. That's the way amnesties work. That's what's going to happen here. So this is the Democrats big plan. It seems to me they're executing on it while pretending this is what they don't want. Will it cost them in the mid term? Could immigration be the
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twenty five percent off. Three years ago this month, former Department of Homeland Security Secretary under Obama J. Johnson rang the alarm on the border crisis when agents were encountering four thousand migrants at the border each day. Watch. I know what a thousand a day looks like. I sought myself at border patrol holding stations. I cannot begin to imagine what four thousand a day looks like. It must overwhelm the system. I think we have to get away
from democrat versus Republican crisis versus no crisis. This is a crisis by any measure. Fast forward to today, DHS is bracing four potentially eighteen thousand migrant encounters per day when the Biden administration ends Title forty two next month. So where is DHS secretary of ma orchis and all this, and why is the White House not prioritizing this obviously escalating problem of lawlessness. Let's ask Director of Policy Studies
at the Center for Immigration Studies, Jessica Vaughn. Jessica, thanks for being with us, Thank you all right. So, according to the Migrant Policy Institute, forty two has been used to remove migrants more than one point seven million times
already since the start of the pandemic. To tell us about how this has been a tool that, among very few it seems, has actually been useful in turning people away after a legal crossing, well, Title forty two is a tool under the Public Health Law that allows the federal government to expel people for public health reasons without having them go through any formal immigration proceeding or even
be formally deported. So it's a quick and easy way to simply turn people back at the border without having to process them, which takes a lot of effort. It also means that people can no longer gain the asylum system. The Department of Homeland Security doesn't have to worry about detaining families or kids. It just blocks everyone from entering the country. And this was put into place by President Trump.
It was reduced in scope by President Biden. He started exempting large categories of illegal border crossers from Title forty two expulsion. And now he's announced that he's going to stop using this authority at all. And that leaves the question of, well, what are they going to do with what we know is a huge number of prospective illegal border crossers who are now making their way to the Central America and Mexico and up to our border. How are they going to process them? What is their plan?
I think there are some clues, but they have not been entirely candid about exactly what they want to do. I have seen some analysis, including from your own organization, CIS that there may be a change and even how the processing works for asylum seekers at the border. Can you explain how far along the Biden administration may be in that change and what it would mean, what it would do. Well, yes, they have announced some plans to
make changes to how asylum seekers are processed now. And to put this into context, a federal judge has determined in response to lawsuits by a group of states that are frustrated by the Biden administrations continuing failure to get control of the border and deter illegal migration. So this judge said, look, under immigration law, you have two choices. You either have to detain people or you have to send them back to Mexico to await any processing. For example,
if they want to make an asylum application. Well, the Biden administration is saying, well, we're going to do something
different now. They've proposed a system that will allow people to apply for asylum at the border and be essentially whisked into the country to have their hearing in about three weeks with an asylum officer, a bureaucrat from a group of people that they are now trying to hire who will be interpreting the law according to guidelines that the Biden administration gives them, instead of going to immigration court where an immigration judge would decide on their asylum application.
So basically it's a way to expedite kind of waving people through and laundering their status as asylum applicants so that they don't have to do what the judge said, which is either detain people or send them back across the border to Mexico. So it's a revolutionary change to how illegal border crossers will be handled. That is guaranteed to increase the incentives for people to come here and try to get in because they know this is basically
a formalized catch and release program. And what percentage do we have some idea right now? With Title forty two still in place, there have been huge numbers of migrants illegally crossing in the US and then seeking to stay here over the last year, let's just say, the last twelve months or so, what percentage of them are actually likely to be able to stay? I mean, this is I think where it starts to get really confusing for people, because there's the asylum track. There are single adult males,
their family units. I've seen the family units at the border and women with small children. They're treated very differently. They're unaccompanied miners. Who is getting to stay right now and who does it well? In the last six months, there have been about a million people encountered by the border patrol, and about half of those have been allowed
to stay under the policy they've expelled. Biden administration policy has been to expel about half of the people arriving on Title forty two and let the other half come in. And of course there's an additional tens of thousands of goataways that we know about coming through per month as well, and those are a whole other story. They're just getting through with this possible change that we're expecting from the administration that they've been kind of forecasting themselves with some
documents that they've filed with federal government. I would expect that the vast majority of people who are coming would have the ability to enter the country under whether it's as an asylum applicant or under some other forms that the Biden administration uses, because they are actually shrinking detention capacity at the border, which should tell us that they're not planning on detaining. They're not planning on sending people
back right away. They're planning on having this managed math entry of people who show up at the border under the guise of a humanitarian admission. Kind I ask, because I just I find this fascinating. So you said, of the million, let's which is a huge number. Obviously everyone sitting is like a million in six months. Of the million, and not even including the gotaways, I think the gotaway number estimate that I saw was in the hundreds of thousands,
so you'd have to add that to it. So half of them get to stay who come to country legally, Are they all staying under some version of an asylum asylum process or there are other reasons they get to stay. Well, they're being allowed to stay by expressing a fear of return. And what we've found in the past that most of them, if they're allowed to enter after saying they fear return.
Don't even bother to fill out the asylum application. They just use that as a pretext for being allowed to enter, and the Biden administration goes along with that as long as they know what to say, and they're coached by the smuggling organizations and by the NGOs that are helping them out on the Mexican side. Once they set foot on US soil, they say I'm afraid to be returned home,
then they're allowed in. And we can expect that that's going to be most of the people that are coming on their way now to the border and after May twenty third, when the Title forty two policy is lifted. So they find some loopholes in the law to avoid returning people, which is actually what the law says is supposed to happen. If they're an illegal border crosser, they're supposed to be returned quickly or detained until a judge and rule on whether they should be allowed to stay.
That's that hasn't been happening at all. They've been just waiving people in. It almost feels like the bidministration kind of likes this illegal immigration situation. But anyway, Jessica. Well, they've had a year to fix it and they haven't tried to. So it looks like they're about to make it, fair to say, just real quick, They're gonna make it much worse now right. It's a situations about to get worse. It's going only going to get worse. Deska, thanks for
being to appreciate the expertise. Thank you. As the nation braces itself or a surge and illegal migrants, some states are beginning to take matters into their own hands. In a special edition of The Buck Brief, I'll explain how some border states are stepping up efforts to stem the migrants tie. We're living in chaotic times, and foreign identity thieves love chaos. American homeowners have become a favorite target
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to Washington, DC. Take a look to help local officials whose communities are being overwhelmed by hordes of illegal immigrants who are being dropped off by the Biden administration. Texas is providing charter buses to send these illegal immigrants who have been dropped off by the Biden administration to Washington, DC. We are sending them to the United States Capital, where the Biden administration will be able to more immediately address the needs of the people that they are allowing to
come across our border. Some estimants as high as eighteen thousand migrants per day said to arrive whence Title forty two is lifted, Texas is going to need a lot of buses. Maybe me more on this in a special edition of the Buck Brief. Biden administration doesn't care about all the illegal immigration. They care about the politics involved. When the American people see what a mess this is
doesn't bother them. There are so many illegals coming into the country every day already, or the last year was essentially the all time record, over two million apprehensions and counters they call them euphemistically. At the southern border, hundreds of thousands of additional goataways, people who just got into the United States. Some of them are drug smugglers poisoning our cities and towns with fentonyl That's what's going on right now at the southern border. But the Biden administration
is only really concerned with the optics. Do the American people actually see what's going on? Well, they're starting to see. And here's video from Bill mulugiona Fox News showing the mass release of single adult migrants from federal custody in Brownsville. And you'd have to ask yourself if they can get into the country so easily, if they're being let in the country, who isn't being let into the US at this point, who's being told that they're going to be
turned back? Some of these are single adult males. Even why would they be led into the United States when
they've come in illegally. Well, because Biden administration doesn't really believe in the rule of law when it comes to immigration, doesn't really believe that illegal immigrants are even a problem of any kind for a society in terms of the violations of the rule of law, the violations of US sovereignty, the amount of money taxpayers spend on the services for individuals who are not legally supposed to be in the United States. Democrats say this is not just a nation
of immigrants, but that a nation of illegal immigrant. They believe that it doesn't matter a person can't be illegal, They say, then why have immigration laws at all? Why not just have a Congress that passes Why don't have Democrats pass a bill, or at least try to pass one that says that anyone can come and go as they please. That starts to get pretty tough for things like voting and the tax base and a whole range
of issues. Right, determining who is and who is not a part of your polity is a pretty essential component of actually having a nation, having a nation state. That's a big deal, isn't it. Democrats disagree, So we know the Biden administration is not going to do very much about this. They're not going to try to stop the flow. If anything, they just want to hide the flow. They want to streamline the migrants, who, by the hundreds of thousands are already on a monthly basis coming through soon.
They expect it'll be about eighteen thousand a day once the Title forty two authority of the CDC expires. So what are we going to do about this? Well, some governors are stepping up. Governor Abbot of Texas has decided to well, I'll let him tell you. To help local officials whose communities are being overwhelmed by hordes of illegal immigrants who are being dropped off by the Biden administration.
Texas is providing charter buses to send these illegal immigrants who have been dropped off by the Biden administration to Washington, DC. We are sending them to the United States capital, where the Biden administration will be able to more immediately address the needs of the people that they are allowing to
come across our border. Chartering buses to send illegal immigrants to places where Democrats don't really expect to have to deal with them, to Democrat neighborhoods, in this case, to our nation's capital itself, with the idea that you know that will be hard to ignore. There'll be visuals of illegal immigrants. Now, let me just say this. This is a voluntary program. So this is not people who are being detained and put on charter buses they're going to
be offered. This is really, at some level a political stunt. Let's be honest about this. We're conservatives. We don't live in an alternate reality. We live in the only actual reality. And so how many people will actually get on these buses and be transferred to these areas, probably very few of though, who knows. Maybe they want a free ride and a nice charter bus to DC. Depends these are
illegal immigrants after all. MU sure how much cash they want to throw around to get to their final destination within the US. And Ted Cruz certainly likes the optics of this. He says, it's an excellent idea, Governor Rabbitt's idea. But Texas shouldn't only send charter buses of illegal aliens
to DC. I filed federal legislations. Who also send them to Martha's Vineyard, very fancy place where people go in the summertime, Nantucket, same thing, Palo Alto, Greenwich, Connecticut, Scarsdale, Newport, Rhode Island, and Rhoboth Beach, Delaware. So singling out here really the preferred summer homes for the most part, destinations of the Democrat elite along the coasts. That's what that
list is all about from Senator Ted Cruz. And so he's trying to make a case here that one of the reasons Democrats like Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer and others are so favorable to illegal immigration is that they don't deal with the consequences of illegal immigration in their own neighborhoods, the drain on resources and services, the increase that will occur when you're bringing in lots of people without vetting and not knowing what or who the situation
is that that's actually brought them into the country. The cartels are a massive component of the human smuggling here. There's some that are saying the cartels are making up to one hundred million dollars a week at the southern border right now on the smuggling operations alone. So while all of that is going on, Democrats get to say it's not their problem, and some are saying, no, we're going to actually make sure the American people see what's
really going on here. Here's Governor Ron de Santisa Florida, for example, saying he's going to send illegals to sanctuary states like Delaware. So what we're doing in Florida is saying, you know, we're not going to let the recklessness of those policies impact our states. So we do not. If businesses are contractors are dumping people who are illegal into Florida from southern Texas, you know we're going to go
after their ability to do business in Florida. If Biden is dumping people, which he has dumped people, they fly him in at two in the morning. They haven't done it lately, but they did it many months ago. You know, we now have money where we can reroute them to sanctuary states like Delaware, and we're going to do that
to make sure that we're keeping people safe here. They route them to Delaware, by the way, to give you a sense of just how serious the Biden administration, the Biden regime really is about the illegal immigration tsunami that has already been underway. It's only going to get bigger. It's going to turn into a massive tidal wave here soon. They actually hand out phones to illegal immigrants so they can track them, they say, and tell them, hey, it's time for you to show up to a hearing. Yeah.
I guess how well that works out. But Jen Slaki admits that they actually do give free phones. Wash thank you, Jen. First Immigration, our team in Texas is saying that you guys are starting to give smartphones to border crossers, hoping that they'll use the phones to check in or to be tracked, which part of that is supposed to deter
people from crossing illegally into the States. Well, I think you have all people, since you've asked me a range of questions on this topic over time, would recognize that we need to take steps to ensure that we know where individuals are and we can track and we can check in with them. Yeah, do you think those individuals were in the country illegally? You're really going to answer the phone call when it's hey, can you show up
at your asylum hearing? Hey, can you check in with Immigrations and Customs Enforcement now to enter you into the system because they don't even know who or where these individuals are. I'm gonna go with probably not so much. And there's of course Obama's former DHS Secretary j Johnson earlier today speaking some sanity. He's a Democrat, but he's a same Democrat here he is saying it is absolutely a crisis at the border. Watch if you go to Laredo, Texas,
which is eighty five percent Mexican American. They want our border under control. Numbers of seven thousand a day and the estimates are now as it could climb over ten to eighteen possibly are not sustainable. They're not sustainable in the communities across the border that have to absorb this population Catholic charities. It's not sustainable for the Border Patrol and ICE to be able to track these people and keep up with these people, and it's not sustainable politically
for the Biden administs. Agree there's a crisis at the border right now. Yes, absolutely, yeah, there is a crisis at the border, and Democrats are about to make it a whole lot worse. On top of the already massive numbers of migrants that border patrol agents are already dealing with every day, the brave men and women who protect our border are now fearing the worst. Once the Biden administration ends Title forty two nex month, the border agents are bracing for an enormous surge of up to eighteen
thousand migrant encounters per day, that's what they're projecting. These same agents have been furious with the White House the policies that had to follow since Biden took office. Take a look back at the leaked footage from January when border agents, who were angry obviously at the situation, lashed out at DHS Secretary Mayorcas and Border Patrol Chief I will Ortiz. We don't we stayed focused. We continue to do the job on the mission we stigned up for.
We all signed up dependent constitution I order. You say you're bargner in the policies, and that's what she's got left. You just say, we're evil to triumph for good men of government. Exactly what's happening? Good men are doing nothing. You're allowing the allowing illegal aliens to be dropped off in these communities. You can truth the power there. So what are the agents dealing with right now? What's the reality on the ground down in our southern border. Let's
ask Vice President of the National Border Patrol Council, Chris Cabrera. Chris, thanks so much, Hey, thank you for having me. So tell us what is before we get to what happens after Title forty two. What is the day to day reality right now as you're seeing it as your agents, your fellow agents are seeing it on the US Mexico boarder. What kind of crossing levels are you seeing? What kind
of lawlessness is underway? Tell us what's going on? And we're seeing about eight eight to nine thousand crossing per day nationwide. Just in my small area down here, we're well over a thousand per day, our manpower is cut to a skeleton crew out in the field. We start off the day with at least fifty percent of our agents inside process, and the number just gets whittled down as the day goes on, getting pulled out of the
field for different duties. We have tons of guidaways, people that are coming in that we don't have the manpower to free up to go after them because we're so busy dealing with the people turning themselves in and the
other traffic that's coming away trying to avoid us. And what does this mean for border patrol in terms of just the manpower and the missions beyond the humanitarian mission, right, which is what involves Border patrol agents going to hospitals to take care of illegals who have crossed over and make sure that everyone's healthy and safe, etc. But there's a national security mission, a sovereignty rule of law mission,
and a drug interdiction mission. What does it mean when you've got eight thousand illegals crossing in every day for all those other pieces, and you know so much is getting away from us. We're unsure what it is or who it is, what they're bringing with them, what kind of you know, crimes they've committed in their home country, much less in our country. We're going to go out
there and do the best we can every day. It's up to the folks in DC, whether it's headquarters of Border Patrol or DHS, to do their part making sure that that we have the stuff to do our job and stop hindering us down with nonsense policies and nonsense and directives. When we have a job to do, just let us go out there and do our job. Now, let's talk about what happens when Title forty two goes away. The bid administration has already stated that it will happen
in late May. What are the projections that Border Patrol and DHS personnel are making for how many crossings there will be. What kind of wave of illegal migration are you expecting. You know, as I said earlier, we're dealing with about eight thousand a day nationwide, which is well above our capacity. We've been told to expect eighteen to nineteen thousand per day. One Title forty two is lifted, the words out worldwide that this is the place to
come and it's easy to get in. So people are coming to the greatest nation on the face of this earth. They're not okay in our laws, and why should they were not going to enforce them anyway. So once Title forty two, which is this CDC authority that had allowed at least some illegal migrants to be quickly expelled from the country and put back by the way, would they be repatriot just across the border into Mexico or that would they be sent to under Title forty two Chris
to their country of origin. How does that work? Well, now they were going back without the Remain in Mexico in placed Remain in Mexico program in place. They were being sent back to their home country if their home country would take them, and not all the home countries like Honduras would take these people back, so we'd get stuck with them. So you know that that's one of
the kickers there. And then there's so many others that are they have temporary protective status, like those from Nicaragua, Columbia, Venezuela, so they're not amenable to Title forty two anyway, and so it's just kind of it's just kind of thrown together. They're they're not really they're not even obeying their own rules that they've come up with, and it's just a mess right now. And um, if if our folks at the top can't get the job done, they need to
bring somebody in that that'll do it. And I don't think Secretary of my workis has the stomach for doing this job. What will the intake procedure likely be. Let let's say it's we're going to fast forward here for a second, Chris to June, and you're at eighteen thousand illegal crossings a day. Well, based on the resources that can be a raid to deal with this, what kind of vetting, processing and procedure would be in place for those who walk over across the West Mexico border illegally.
What will happen? You know, we we've seen it happen before in the summertime last summer where they did an alternative to detention. So we weren't even giving them a notice to appear or coordinate or anything. We were just releasing them, telling them they needed to make their their own arrangements to to see an immigration judge or to
get to an ICE agent and declare themselves. And so you can expect people to be instead of streamline the processing, it's going to be streamlined in the release, just so we can get them out of the out of our facility as quickly as possible to make room for the
next wave that's coming in. So this tell me more about this alternative to detention is that it sounds like people come into the country illegally and then it's almost like they're on the honor system to put themselves in the system, the immigration system, so to speak, somewhere to either claim asylum or whatever the process. Maybe is that right? I mean, is there how can there be any tracking under alternative to detention system? Yeah, you know, that's exactly
what it is. It's the honor system. And to give to put somebody on our system who just broke the law by crossing in our country illegally is kind of outrageous. And then on top of that, we're giving them some brand new telephone so that they can keep in touch with us, and usually those just end up in the trash before they get on the bus to get out of town. Wow, so we give them free phones too. That's interesting. I think a lot of people don't know
about that. You know, here was back in January earlier this year, you mentioned mayorkas the DHS chief. Here he is saying that the immigration problem illegal crossing is worse than it has been probably ever watched this one. We should have enough personnel to take care of the southern and that's that's a solution, and that hasn't to do the case. Look, it's worse now, frankly, has been at
least one years, if not ever. If it was the worst probably ever, as he says there that it was in January in terms of just illegal crossings and the flow that's going around our legal immigration system, Chris, is it going to be even worse than the worst ever once Title forty two passes this summer and going forward, Oh, most definitely. And you know that's what that's what they get for putting a yes man in a position like this. He's not standing up for his guys, he's not standing
up for his department. He's just doing whatever the administration tells him to do. And you know, what's the point of having somebody in there if they're not going to do their job. Press appreciate the work you do and also for bringing us some ground truth and your expertise here. Thanks so much, all right, thank you, scent them interm elections are right around the corner, and the President's immigration
policies are likely to cost him at the polls. CEO of American Majority Ned Ryan is coming up next to explain how Biden's border crisis is going to be a big problem in November. Stay with US as a southern border braces for a massive influx of migrants. Most voters are not supportive of President Biden's decision to lift Title
forty two next month. The controversial policy was an acted under former President Donald Trump and has been used more than one point seven million times to remove people who are in the country illegally under a CDC authority. So why are they lifting it? Now? Let's get into this with the CEO of American Majority Ned Ryan. Ned, thanks so much, absolutely but good to be with you. So
let's just start with this. The polling, which usually I feel like Democrats, especially in a midterm election, pay very close attention to the Poland Show's most voters oppose Biden's decision to remove Title forty two fifty six percent of all voters, eighty eight percent of Republicans, of course, but even twenty seven percent of Democrats. So what's the move here? What are the politics of this decision from the Democrat side, Well,
it's kind of interesting to see the divide here. You've got the Biden administration help bent on doing this the end of May and shockingly bought Speaking of the midterms, a lot of these guys that are on the ballot, like rathbel Warnock of Georgia are fighting that they're fighting the Biden administration. They do not want to see them lift the title forty two. So it's kind of this really interesting division between the Democratic Party depending on whether
you're on the ballot this November. So there are Democrats that are fully aware as their political lives are in danger, that this could be devastating to their political careers. Right, So there are Senate Democrats and this is not just Republicans who are saying this is that's right, a big issue here. But I mean, you'd wonder what do they
expect to happen. I mean, if the Biden administration seems entirely and so far it seems entirely unwilling to enforce our immigration laws, they're not doing anything to stop the massive flow. If anything, this is going to make the flow even bigger of labels into the country. Don't Democrats have to know that this is going to be a
huge liability for them. I mean, what's what's the play here, Like, why is it just because the Biden regime can't betray the base on this that wants you know, open borders and all the rest of it. What's the situation. Yeah, No, I keep on going back to the their hell bend. These are these are not blugs. These are features, whether it's energy policy, whether it's immigration pols. Let's not forget bluged.
I mean, in the first hundred days, Biden had over ninety four executive orders that dealt with weakening our immigration system, and this is just a continuation of it. I mean, it's pretty staggering when you think about what they are up to. And let's be honest, buck, what they are doing is they want to see massive rapid demographic chain or political gain and they are hell bamped one doing this.
And so those in the short term that realize this will be politically devastating are saying, hey, let's not do this, But the Biden administration and the base of the Democratic Party want to continue on because they think that this is a long term bet that will give them more
political power. So, yeah, when you see three hundred thousand getaways in fisical year twenty twenty two in which illegals have successfully evaded the border patrol, and now they're saying that we might be seeing upwards of eighteen thousand a day in a month, would exceed the population of Atlanta. They're doing it for a one for one reason, Buck, it's in hopes of having more political power. It's remarkable to watch this play out. What do you think the
messaging is going to be? I mean, how is Jensaki going to get up there, assuming she hasn't taken her job MSNBC yet, that's apparently waiting for no surprise there. How is Jensaki going to try to message the situation? If the number goes to eighteen thousand apprehensions a day, My contacts at border patrols say, and we talked to one of them on the show, ned, that's going to completely overwhelm the system. I mean, that is just like a tidal wave going through the factory and shutting down
all the machinery, Like it's just not going to be possible. Yeah. No, that is the point though, I mean, that is the point, Buck of what they're doing with all of their policies and basically not basically but going out of their way in overtly weakening our immigration system and our southern border. There really is no way to spend this, and that's again why one of the top issues behind inflation is
absolutely immigration. Not only in the mid terms, but in the presidential of twenty twenty four, the American people are beginning to really truly understand with rapid demographic change, but also more fuck they realize they're gonna be they're putting the bill for this. Not only are they the bill for what's taking place, this humanitarian crisis, but they are fully aware that a lot of these who are coming in illegally will find their ways onto our social welfare programs.
It will increase our tax burden. We will be paying for this not only the short term but the long term. And the American people are saying we've had enough. And if we actually had real political courage, and I would argue, especially with the Republican Party and saying we're going to actually end this and we're going to solve the border crisis,
I think we could actually do this very quickly. I just talked to President Trump, He's like, you know, if we can get back into PowerNet, we can complete the southern border wall in a matter of not months and months, but even just weeks and weeks, and be able to secure this and say we're done here, and we do not have a constitutional obligation in any way to continue on.
In fact, I would argue this is deeply unconstitutional and against the interests of the American people, in the American taxpayer. At some point, you would hope thought that our elected representatives would actually stand up and say, you know what, we're going to actually prioritize the interests of the American people, the American taxpayer, and what is taking place on the southern border has nothing to do with any of those.
Can you just put it in context for us NET, your guy who watches the polls and the political realities very closely. Here, immigration is not something that you see the certainly the Democrat media spend much time on these days. Illegal immigration specifically, it's what we're talking about here, acrossing the border without without actual permission, without you know, without doing so, in violation of federal law. What are the polls show us about how much the American people going
into the midterm election. Care about illegal immigration as an issue, Oh, I would say it's still one of the top three issues when when you talk with a lot of people in the base, that's what American majority does. Obviously, inflation is a huge issue. Election integrity is another one, but
immigration is as well. I mean, that's one of the reasons Donald Trump got elected, and I think it's one of the reasons you're going to see among many one of the Republicans take back to the majority in the House and probably in the Senate, and I think you're going to have Donald Trump probably position pretty well to win in twenty twenty four off immigration issue because a lot of the American people are realizing what is taking place as a complete and uttered disaster for this country
and it's time that we actually do something and say, you know what it actually means something when you say we're a sovereign nation if we actually have enforceable borders, and when we don't have enforceable borders, I think it calls in the question one of the fundamental things, are we truly a sovereign nation? And I would say, right now, Buck, that's a serious question marked for a lot of the American people. Some states are suing Biden over the ending
of Title forty two. Arizona, Louisiana, Missouri, and the Soup challenges an imminent mad made self inflicted calamity, the abrupt elimination of the only safety valve preventing the administration disasters border policies from devolving into an unmitigated chaos and catastrophe. We want to stop the Biden administration from sending Title forty two because it may be one of the most bone headed decisions of this administration. Those are the attorneys
general of Arizona, Louisiana, Missouri. I spoke to Missouri ag today. I mean, that's good messaging. Is this going to help? Well, it would help if you had more than just three. I mean, there's dozens of Republican attorney generals around the country, and buck we know from what the Biden administration is doing. This isn't just about the border states. They're literally taking illegal immigrants and shipping them off into various parts of
the country. The dozens of Republican attorney generals should also be a part of this, and quite frankly, the twenty six twenty seven Republican governors should also be a part of this and until they actually come together and build a coalition, have some real force. I mean three, it's nice. It should be dozens, and that's a shame that we don't have dozens actually stigning onto this need. Always good to see you, my friend. Thanks for making the time.
Thanks Bud. That's all the time we have for this special edition of Hold the Line. Like to thank my guest Jessica Vaughan, Chris Cabrera, and Ned Ryan for sharing their insights with us. The O'Riley update is coming next Shields High
