Biden Gets Roasted On Morning Joe

buck Sexton Show begins, He's a great guy. No. By regarding that, Joe Biden, your campaign and surrogates going after him pretty hard with regard to these allegations from Tera Red. What do you say to a lot? So, I don't think they're going after him hard with regard to terry allegations. And what do you say to I don't know anything about it. I don't know exactly I think he should respond. You know, it could be false accusations. I'd know all

about false accusations. I've been falsely charged numerous times. And there is such a thing if you look at if you look at Brett Kavanaugh, there's an outstanding man. He was falsely charged. What happened with him was an absolute disgrace to a country. And I guess three of the four women have now admitted that, and of the fourth give me a break. I mean, take a look thirty six years that is. Look, this is a fine man. I saw a man suffering so unfairly. I'm talking about

Brett Kavanaugh. So but I don't know. I can't speak for Biden. I can only say that I think he should respond, and I think you should answer them. Welcome the buck section, share everybody. The president there asked about the allegations against Joe Biden and being I think fair minded in his response, he's talking about how there are false allegations out there. He said it could be false allegations.

You know, when the president of the United States has an opportunity here to crush his rival, the person running against him, he goes for a more fair, more even handed response. I think it's in part because Trump himself has been the subject of as he says, I know all about false accusations. So he's saying, we got to see now. Why he brings up Kavanaugh is quite clear. They almost the left, the Libs, the Dems, the media, they almost managed to scuttle Kavanaugh's nomination of the Supreme

Court and ruined his life in his career. Can you imagine the stain that that would leave on that man, on his legacy, what that could do to his family, could destroy him. I mean, honestly, we would be lucky if they had destroyed the Kavanaugh nomination the way that they sought to. We would have been fortunate if we didn't find out years later that Kavanaugh decided to make a very bad choice about what to do with his

own safety. That's the kind of destruction that they were willing to induce that they're willing to create because they hated Kavanaugh so much because of the threat that he is in the as a Supreme Court justice to them getting what they want from the Supreme Court, which never should be the case. It's not about the Supreme Court as a super legislator, but that's what they want, that's what they prefer, and so if you try to get in the way of that, there's a problem, and they'll

do anything. And the Kavanaugh saga was the ugliest political fight I've ever seen, and I will never think of some people the same way, including some liberals that I had previously had pretty friendly relations with. M not like that friendly, but you know people that I knew and they were willing to just go along with at all. And I and the people anyone in the media also that we're making fun of Kavanaugh's defense of himself. He seemed unhinged. These people are out, they're out of their minds.

You're falsely accused by lunatics of sexual assault. In one case, let's not forget one of the one of the accusers said that Prett Kavanaugh was running a secret gang rape ring in high school, and she when she was in college because she didn't really do the clearly the math on the ages and the years here when she was in college, would go back to the high school parties where they were gang rapes occurring of unconscious girls and

said that Kavanaugh maybe had drugged one of them. And then she said, well, actually, I don't think he drugged one of them. That person the media gave her credibility. She was part of this assault on the most grotesting

I've ever seen. And the point at the time as well for all of us, was that Kavanaugh could have been any one of us, any one of our dads, our brothers, our husbands, our best friends, Brett Kavanaugh could be any of us, a man accused with obvious political motivation and a complete absence of corroborating evidence of any kind. In fact, all the evidence was going against the accusers.

And Trump brings this up and we should never forget it, because this is one of those moments when you saw the separation between left and right that the so called liberals in this country, the democratic ideology, the Party of the Democrats, is willing to wholesale embrace lies in immorality

to get what it wants. That the party line will be a lie, that the party line will be something that averages the destruction of a human being on false pretenses, the bearing of false witness, if you want to go biblical bearing of false witness against someone as part of a political assault. It was absolutely appalling, and we all told them at the time, We said, libs, you're gonna wake up one day and say, oh, we probably shouldn't have used this make believe standard. I mean, think of

what this would. Women have a right to be believed. That was the phrase they used. It was a great yeah, and whip up the mob, get them into a frenzy. Women have a right to be believed. Okay, well, explain to me what that means for the justice system and also, yes, for people's reputations. Fact, women do lie about sexual assault. Sometimes it's a tiny minority of women. But what happens to the men who happen to be falsely accused by

those tiny minority? Are they just collateral damage? I'll never forget. Years ago, the celebrated on the left, at least pseudo intellectual as reclined saying that, yeah, if consent standards are raised so high by state law that some guys who didn't rape somebody have to be accused of rape, but that puts all other guys on notice. You know, that would be that would be a cost that we have

to bear to make women feel safer. Oh so, so innocent guys should go to prison for rapes that they didn't commit, because that will put all the rest of us on notice. I mean that that was a classic left wing beta mail moment. That was some years ago. I'll never forget that. And remember, Biden was also part of adjusting college campus Title nine tribunals, these preposterous show trials that they do where you don't have any rights to confront the accused, You don't have the right to counsel.

You don't. You know, the standard is not even really it's not even really clear. Is it a is it a beyond a reasonable doubt a preponderance or the evidence the evidence? They make it up as they go along. You basically have no rights as the accused other than to suffer so that the accuser feels better about the situation. And that's how the college campus Title nine sexual assault tribunals that Obama and Biden made an issue of federal policy.

Don't forget that. So now Biden wants the very same or the very kind of justice that he denied to young men all across America on college campuses. Now Biden wants the very same treatment that the Democratic Party was denying Kavanaugh entirely. And now they're gas lighting us. No, we just wanted an investigation. Really, you know, libs are

do you think we're all? They really do think they're smarter than us, Which is one of the more annoying things about them, because they're not two day in FBI investigation. What the heck are you going to find from a two day Do you think the FBI are some kind of superhero cops. Don't even get me started on what happened to General Flynn. We'll talk about that in a few moments. With the FBI is just going to say, yeah, we'll find out what happened thirty years ago based on

the allegations of a woman who's clearly emotionally disturbed. You can't remember when, where, or how the thing happened. All she can remember is that at this point in time, she needs to destroy Brett Kavanaugh. That's really all she can remember. He grabbed at her in a place that she can't remember. At the time, she can't remember. In a year, she can't remember, and there's no one else

who has any memory of this whatsoever. This like, you know, boy scout straight, a student captain and the football team who's bringing meals to the needy on the weekends. Brett Kavana, Yeah, secret gang rapists, folks, that's what they told you about him. These people are disgusting. I mean, really, I don't pull punches about the Kavanaugh thing. Those who are trying to destroy him and were willing to abandon all critical faculty,

all rationality, all reasonableness are disgrace. They're immoral, they're disgusting, and they're stupid too, all of the above, all of the above. They let their emotions completely override the rest of their brain, and Trump was willing to say they're false accusations. This morning, Joe Biden actually had to answer for the for the allegation. You know, Trump is saying

there can be He's not saying this allegations false. He's saying there can be false allegations, which I think is a pretty generous thing under the circumstances for him to say so. Then that brings me to Okay, well, what exactly you know, if we if we look at this now, what what can we expect from Joe Biden? Ah, Joe Biden got roasted on Morning Joe. Indeed, let's get into that. You're in the freedom hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. These claims are not true. There's no corporate

I mean, there's not true. Mister. Well, I'm gonna try and ask many different ways. Uh DC Abrams said, join the kabinet hearings. I believe women, I believe survivors of facault should be supported and the voice is heard. Kreson Kilbrand tweeted, do we believe women do we give them the opportunity to tell their story. We must be a country that says yes every time. They now both support you. Nancy Pelosi falls into this category too, as well as

many other leaders in the Democratic Party. Are women to be believed? Are women to be believed unless it pertains to you. Look, women are to be believed given the benefit of the doubt. If they come forward and say something that is that they said happen to them, they should start off at the presumption they're telling the truth. Then you have to look at the circumstances and the facts, and the facts in this case do not exist. They never happened, and there's so many inconsistencies in what has

been said in this case. So yes, look at the facts, and I assure you it did happened, period, period. But why is it different now? Do you regret what you said during the Kavanaugh hearings. What I said during the Kavanaugh here is was that she had a right to be heard and the fact that she came forward, and presumption would be she's telling the truth. Unless she's truth, she wasn't telling the truth. That's not what he said during the Kavni By the way, they're completely rewriting history

now of what happened during Cavin. I remember, the standard was that Kavanaugh should have to step down from the nomination in disgrace despite nothing being proved about him. They couldn't prove a damn thing. They could not prove anything that was being alleged, not one bit of it other than someone saying that someone someone made an act. They had that. When I say there was zero cooperation or evidence zero, they had nothing. They had no additional witnesses,

they had nothing. But he was supposed to step down because even the doubt, this was the standard. Women have a right to be believed, and even the doubt that an accusation causes is enough for you to not be on the Supreme Court, not be in a position of authority. You get to be ruined. Just so we're sure, that was the standard. Producer Mark and I were talking to this before the show. I give credit words due, It's one of my one of my mantras. Here, right, I

give credit where it's due, and Mika right. Producer Mark asked real questions. Yeah, one hundred percent, she did the right thing. It didn't give him softballs, didn't give him softballs. Gay asked him real questions. Now, I think, realistically, is it kind of funny that we have to sit here and go, hey, look a journalist who's doing journalism for once. Where was CNN? By the way, where was fake Tapper?

I'm sure he could have gotten through all of his connections in the Lib media, he could have gotten this interview with Biden. Didn't want it, didn't want it. Needed to make sure it was Mika. I got to have a female be the one that's asking the question. We get it, We understand the optics here. You know where Anderson Cooper he didn't want this one. Nope, nope, nope. Bro Cuomo the with the bench with my lat my lack curls or whatever, bicep curls, lat I don't know,

Rose lad Rose bicep curl same thing. See, I'm not broke Cuomo. Yeah, no, none of that. None of that. Now they waited until this. I would also want them to ask a very straightforward question at Joe Biden, which they won't ask though, And this would be if you really were trying to get to the heart of the matter in a way where they couldn't they couldn't escape and avoid what the real implications of all this suff may be they should ask Joe Biden, is Tara Reid lying?

Is she lying? He should have to answer that question, because I can sit here and tell you, you know, Blasi Ford and the rest. Remember there were others too, they were lying about Brett Cavnat they were lying. You can say no, they were, and I could say, well, I think that they were, and no one can prove otherwise. So there you have it, right, Is she lying? He

should be asked that question. But then you get into some other areas for Biden that did not look very good, like, for example, why can't we search in his senate records at the University of Delaware, which were sealed after he was done in the Senate. Why can't we search those records for her name to see if it comes up

at all? And this is Biden's more more kind of blathering and nonsense spewing from Biden play for the material in the University of Delaware has no personnel files that it has, but it does have a lot of confidential conversations that I had with the President about a particular issue that I had with the heads of state of other places that that would not be something that would be revealed while I was in public office or while

I was seeking public office. It just stands the reason, the best of my knowledge, no one else has done that either. I'm just talking about her name, not anybody else in those records. A search for that nothing classified would be a president or anybody else. I'm just asking, why not do a search for Tera Reid's name in the University of Delaware records? Look, I mean, who does that search the University of Delaware. Perhaps you set up a commission that can do it. I don't know. Whatever

is the fairest way to create the most transparency. Well this is Look, Mika, she said she filed a report. She has her employment records still. She said she re filed a report with the only office that would have a report in the United States Senate at the time. If the report was ever filed, it was filed there period. According to Joe Biden at least didn't sound very convincing with that. And also, what exactly is in the University of Delaware archives about Joe Biden Senate record that's so

concerned interesting, isn't it. Why wouldn't we have that that transparency that the university can hold these documents, but they're not able. They were going to be released. It's not classified stuff. So that's a total dodge. That's nonsense. They were going to be released. This came up in the interview, and then they decided to extend it, extend it beyond

when Joe Biden is running. And it's because they think that there's OPO in there, there's opposition information that could be used by Trump or by anyone who's critical of Biden in a way that's gonna hurt his campaign chances. Well, gee, now we really want to see what's in the University of Delaware records, don't we. They were gonna they were gonna unseal it. And well, while Joe Biden was going to be a private citizen afterwards, you know, making millions

and millions of dollars giving speeches. I would note, but he's gonna be a private citizen. And then they say no, no no, no, no, we can't release that. It'll hurt Joe Biden's presidential chances. HM makes me think that people really want to see what's in there, don't they. Joe, Remember this is this is the the Democrat maneuver. Sometimes

you got to destroy records. It was Clinton's uh, national security advisor, Sandy Berger, who went into class classified archives and snuck documents out in his socks and destroyed them. That's not something when you'd been national security advisor you would do unless there was damning material in there that was going to ruin your and your president's legacy. We don't know what was in those documents doing because they were destroyed. The only copies on the handwritt note they

were destroyed. Joe Biden, I'm wondering right now, how many weeks have they had to scrub the record of anything Tera Reid related. Oh no, the Democrats wouldn't. They wouldn't, like, you know, scrub it like with a cloth, like bleach bit a server. They wouldn't do that. Thanks for listening to the Bus Show past. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the iHeart Radio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, as promised, we have the Secretary of State,

Mike Pompeo with us right now. Mister Secretary, thank you so much, but it's great to be with you. Thanks for having me on a lot going on right now. China obviously the big focus from the international relations standpoint. There's a piece in the Washington Post that says China wasn't wild about Pompeo before the virus, it's really gunning for him now. And then it seems to list a bunch of state media propaganda directed at you as if you've somehow upset them. Mister secretary, what have you done

to get the ire of the Chinese Communist Party? Yeah, buck to What we've tried to do, what Trump administration has tried to do, is just very simple. We've tried to get China to deal with us in a way that is fair and reciprocal. We saw most clearly at the front of administration on trade. But we've done the

same thing diplomatically, the same thing militarily. And then we've had this moment, this moment where this virus began in Wuhan, China, and in spite of President Trump's best efforts, my best efforts, we've not been able to get our experts in to

figure out what actually happened here. We have we of course, have two goals in that we have the goal of figuring out what happened here, How did this go down, why did it get out, how did it spread all side of the world's causing now more than fifty thousand losses of life in America, a couple hundred thousand all across the world. But so we need a responsibility and accountability for this outbreak. But it's really important buck we have to understand what happened to make sure something like

this can't happen again. And so multiple labs inside of China, and our understanding of what takes place there is pretty limited, and there have been examples of leaks from those labs before, and we gotta this has been expensive, costly, a calamity around the world. We need to do our part, and there is responsibility. I'm part of the Chinese Communist Party to make sure something like this can never happen again. I don't know as to why they keep saying these

things about me. This isn't personal. This is about protecting the American people, and we'll keep doing it. And what is the response you get from your Chinese counterparts in the Foreign ministry when you say we just want greater access in transparency about something that is obviously affecting the United States and the whole world. Do they have a reason, a rationale for why we shouldn't get the access that

we want. You've seen the statements they've made publicly. They've claimed that they have been transparent, but of course, at least because of a day or two ago, we still didn't actually have a sample of the virus. We were still working to try to understand what the scope of the risk was. Answers about where this came from. They

claimed they didn't know. And then in fact, those inside of China who have tried to talk about this, some of the people who have reported on it are those who have doctors who tried to talk about this back in January or earlier this year. We're denied access, which old don't talk about that stop, but they banned discussions of this early on. That's not the way partners work. Reliable partners work, Reliable partners share, they open up, especially

when there's trouble. They go overboard to make sure everybody can understand how it came to be. That's all we've asked for. We hope that the Chinese Commerce Party will see their way clear to all the world to understand how the heck this virus got out of Wuhan, China and spread all across the world. We're speaking to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. Mister Secretary, I want to ask you what about accountability. You know, there's already been some

discussion of possible lawsuits against the Chinese Communist Party. How that goes, how far they go, remains to be seen. But down the line, could you foresee a situation where if in fact, it has proven that China acted irresponsibly to cover this up. Once we've gotten past obviously the most important thing right now dealing with the virus, will

there be accountability for the Chinese Communist Party. Well, we've been focused on here now trying to keep America safe and healthy as best we can, and to get this economy cranked back up again so people get back to work, get out of their places that they're sheltering today. So that's been the predominant missions that we've add with respect to the virus. But there will come a time when we need to make sure that we understand what happened

here and those responsible, those who took actions they prevented earlier. Notice, those took actions that allowed this virus to spread. You know, we've seen the narrative, which is that the virus began, and the Chinese Commist Party knew about it, didn't alert the world to it, and a timely fashion, the presidents talked about this. As we continue to investigate and we

learned precisely what happened. I am confidence the whole world wants to know the answer to this, because the world has a right to know what happened and then ultimately holds those persons or those nations who engage in this activity that harmed the world to find a mechanism to hold them account. As you said, the party been some

losses filed in the United States. I don't know what precisely the right mechanism is and what the President will ultimately choose, but we will present him a set of options once we know all the facts that hold those persons responsible for this accountable. And in Hong Kong there's been an additional crackdown from the Chinese government. I know that that's gotten some focus from you recently. Are they essentially trying to use the shroud of everyone dealing with

this virus to get away with more repressive measures? And what can the US We have our handsful obviously with the virus, but to the degree that we can are we able to push back a bit on the crackdown in Hong Kong. We've made clear since early last year when we first started to see some of this activity in Hong Kong that are asked of the Chinese Communist Party was the same one that we make with respect

to as far as show us what you're doing. You made a set of promises back in nineteen forty seven. You made a set of promises about one country and two systems. Live up to those international commitments. If you do those things, Hong Kong can continue to be the thriving place that those who had a chance to travel there. No, it's a big a financial hub, it's a place that has a different system inside of China. But they have

obligon issues, they have duties. Promises not that we made or not that the British made, but that the Chinese Communist Party made. We asked them to live up to them. That's what I said last week when we saw some of the actions that they were taking, or at least contemplate taking, And that's what we continue to try and hold them accountable for. They have to live up to their international commitments. The world is watching these things and it's not hard to do. They ought to just simply

do it. We're speaking Secretary of State Mike Pompeio. Mister Secretary, you and Senator Elizabeth Warren, former presidential candidate Elizabeth Warren, you had a bit of an exchange on Twitter. You told her that she should review the law again. Our rights under UN Security Council Resolution two two three one are separate from the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action the JCPOA. But I'll put you down for Chinese arm sales to Iran on October eighteenth? Which weapon? Is it okay with you?

If they send a couple of divisions of VT four tanks? Good, mister Secretary, just tell me this. What is this dispute about? What are you saying? And what is Elizabeth Warren's position? Well? President Trump came in knowing that the around Nikelodo was a disaster and got out of it in May of twenty eighteen. One of the reasons it was such a wreck was that most of the major provisions one permanent.

They began to expire first. Such provisionous expires in October of this year just bucked just a handful of months away. So we can use every tool we have in our diplomatic get bank to ensure that come October of this year, the Chinese can't sell thanks, the Russians can't sell armaments. All conventional arms sales that this provision prohibits today will expire, and they'll be the world's largest state sponsor terry in Iran. We'll be able to purchase those weapons systems, and so

we had a little bit of fun. But once editor Warren said, you know, goodness gracious, so you can't use the JCPO, we're not doing that. The United States has an unambigua unambiguous rate at the UN Security Council to keep these restrictions in place, and President Trump has made clear we're gonna make sure Irun never gets a nuclear weapon, and we'll get to deny them access to weapon systems

to the maximum extent feasible. I think, given all the tough news these days these days, Secretary, before we let you go, I just wanted to ask what are some of the of the things that are going on at at the international level when it comes to ours and partners trying to help us deal with this, whether it's information sharing between scientists, between doctors and medical researchers around the world. Just is there anything you can speak to

with regard to how our allies are coming through for us. Yeah, but that's a great question. We've had some friends or some great things. You know, first, we had tens of thousands of Americans stranded all across the world. Some of our friends have been fantastic and helping the State Department get now over seventy five thousand people back who had travel plans or they're on a mission trip and got stuck overseas and play and stop moving, and we were

able to get them home. So that's been hardening to watch these other countries help us do that as well in difficult conditions with the virus. But as for the work being done on the virus itself, there is a global campaign of countries that have really talented epidemiologist, scientists, people who know chemistry working to find therapeutics and vaccines. You see the list of all of those that are

in process. I'm very confident that we will find a good answer before too long, and it will be a global solution, one that no America will play a significant part in moving forward. Secretary of State Mike COOMPEII. Always appreciate your time, sir. Thanks again, Buck, Thank you, sir. I have a good day. You're in the Freedom Hut. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. My question is, have you seen anything at this point that gives you a high degree of confidence that the Wuhan Institute of

Barology was the origin of these virus? Yes, yes, I have. And I think that the World Health Organization should be ashamed of themselves because they're like the public relations agency for China, and this country pays them almost five hundred million dollars a year, and China pays them thirty eight

million dollars a year. And whether it's a lot or more, it doesn't matter, it's still they shouldn't be making excuses when people make horrible mistakes, especially mistakes that are causing hundred of thousands of people around the world to die. I think the World Health organizations should be ashamed of themselves. And yet what's going to happen to the World Health Organization? Very little. I'm sure the Democrats, if they were to win the election this fall, will make sure they're funded.

They won't even just restore any funding that Trump administration has considered withdrawing from them from you know, the US, the taxpayer giving the wh all this money. I bet the Democrats if Biden were to win, you know, if they can just carry Biden. This this really this kind of dottering, dottering old fool. I mean, it's it's gotten ridiculous now what we see happening in all of these press conferences. He's giving. But they're going to do it.

They don't care. These people are really you know, the one thing about Democrats you have to remember is they are ruthless, absolutely ruthless. And they think they're the nice people. That's what's always so amazing. They think they're the sweethearts that care about the poor and the needy and the downtrodden. But they're ruthless and they don't give it. Do you think Pelosi gives a crap about the poor or the downtrodden. Come on, no one really believes that. Nobody really believes that.

I guess some Libs do. It makes them feel makes them feel safe and warm at night, that that delusion is something that is helpful for them. It allows them to keep going and keep doing what they're doing. I want to know. We will talk about the storming of the storming of the capitol as it's being reported here with people in Michigan, armed protesters going to the Michigan Capital. People are sick of the lockdowns. We will get into

that because we do have to reopen this country. And I'm really getting to the point now where I'm wondering when everyone's gonna wake up that the people in charge they don't have some great plan doesn't exist. Are brilliant scientists, they can't cure this thing. They don't know what to do. We have doctors who are trying to treat it, trying

to keep people alive, thank you for that. But the medical community, in terms of research and medical policy at the highest levels, no answers this test and trace thing that they keep talking about. It's not going to happen. I mean, we might well do some of it. Here's what they haven't yet figured out. Are they going to mandate testing for everybody, meaning that you are the government obligates you to get a blood test every two weeks for you to be able to go out and work.

Is that what's gonna because if you don't do that, people aren't going to take these tests. They're not going to do it. So, how are you going to get to twenty million tests today, which is what some people are talking about as needed for us to reopen. How do you get there if people won't do the tests. They're testing centers now all over the country that don't have very many clients. So what do they really think is going to happen here? How is this supposed to work?

They don't have any answers. They don't have an answers. In fact, here I wanted to We're going to talk about the general Flynn situation, updates on that and in just a moment, but first just to give you a look. We got to talk about it because it affects all of us right now. And here you go. You've got the experts that CNN is currently is currently siting in

this piece. I'm trying trying to find this piece right now telling us that turns out, here you go, the novel coronavirus is likely to keep spreading for at least another eighteen months to two years, until sixty to seventy percent of the population has been infected, along a team of long standing pandemic experts, predicted in a new report. So remember Flatten, the curve. I understand we were told

flatten the curve because of hospital capacity. Hospital capacity was not even close to being overrun nationwide, and we had excess capacity in New York City. It was a strain on hospitals for sure, But there were not people dying in the hallways by the hundreds who couldn't get any doctor, couldn't get a ventilator. That was all not true, and that was why we were told to flatten the curve.

Now some of us turn around to look and say, hold on a minute, why are we going to keep flattening the curve across the whole country when these epidemiologists who have been part of here here, I mean, this is a highly highly respected group that this is all they do is look at pandemic disease and spread there you go. This is from the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy sid RAP at the University of Minnesota. The idea that this is going to be done, sue,

defies microbiology. They're telling us that the seventy percent of people are going to get infected. Now, let's understand that that is herd immunity. What they're telling what these epidemies so so someone needs to tell me if they're wrong, because if we're flattening the curve just because we're scared and we want to pretend that something better is going to happen, we're destroying our economy. We're giving up all of our freedoms and individual liberties because we're hoping that

in a month or some miraculous cure burges. When we are destroying our economy, we're doing this isn't like this is cost for This is a horrible stuff that's going on, and we're not even in the aggregate. And this is the piece that people don't seem to want to grasp. We're not even protecting people from infection long term, We're just slowing the rate of infection. Well, why are you slowing the rate of infection so that you don't overwhelm

the hospitals. Hospitals aren't even close to being overwhelmed. So why are we slowing a rate of infection nationwide when it's not even close to overwhelming hospitals. If the epidemiologists here are saying that basically, we got to get a lot of people infected for this thing to go away, I'm not I mean, I'm not making this up. This is not some crazy I'm reading what the experts are saying. I thought this all along that the only way, the only way past is virus is going to be through it. Yes,

staff up, Yes, do what you can. Yes, protect the vulnerable number sixty to seventy percent of the population. If seventy percent of the low risk population. So if seventy percent of people in the country, but it's you know, ninety nine percent of that seventy percent, let's say, are under the age. I know this is getting a little bit confusing, but under the age of seventy we're gonna,

you know, we'll be okay. And then then the at risk population because of the vectors of disease being much less, meaning that a healthy thirty year old is going to come into contact or sorry, an immune thirty year old is going to come into contact with an infected thirty year old and therefore won't get the virus and then spread it to their grandma at home. If this is what we're heading for, then protecting vulnerable populations, but allowing the younger and less susceptible to this to go back

to life and go back to work. That's the only answer, and this continued. Flatten the curve flat and the curve fly on the curve doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make sense, folks. We need to face up to this. Thanks for listening to The Bus Sesson Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcast, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. Well, it looks to me like Michael Flynn would be exonerated based on everything I see.

Come not the judge. But I have a different type of power, but I don't know that anybody would have to use that power. I think he's exonerated everything. I've never seen anything like it. What they did, what they wrote. You see this, General, you wouldn't want this happening to you. What they did to General Flynn, and it's just disgraceful. It is disgraceful. But it's important that we understand exactly why and how bad it was and push for accountability.

Justice for Flynn and accountability for those who clearly set him up. We got Sean Davis with us now. He's been writing on this all week and he is as up on it as anyone. He is with the Federalist, he's a co founder there. Go to the Federalist dot Com for his latest shown. Good to have you back, good to be here, Thank you for having me. All right, my man, let's go. You tell me this piece in particular, FBI closed the Flynn case dub Crossfire Razor in early

twenty seventeen. Then what happened? Yes, it's fascinating. So we learned from documents filed yesterday that it had been unearthed by a US attorney out of Saint Louis, Missouri at bars urging. And these documents showed that the FBI, after investigating Michael Flynn for who knows how long, found no evidence that he had done anything illegal, no evidence that he was a secret of Russian agent, no evidence that he'd broken laws, no evidence that he'd had any illegal conversations.

And on January fourth, twenty seventeen, the FBI actually was getting ready to close the case, and in fact, the case should have been closed per text from Peter Strock, who said it was only still open because of what he termed FBI incompetence. But Peter Struck intervened at the last minute, said hey, hey, hey, I need you to keep that case open. You keep that case open. He texted the case agent. And what I'm fascinating about this does that happened on January fourth they knew Flynn had

nothing wrong, they put it in running. On January fifth, in Yovlofice, Obama, James Komy and Saliates and Susan Rice have a secret meeting. On January sixth, Komi goes in and briefs Trump on the dossier. On the tenth, it leads to CNN, and then on the twelfth, we got

probably the worst crime to happen yet. And this entire collusion hoax was an illegal league to Washington Post calumnist David Ignatius, detailing allegedly transcripts of phone calls between Flynn and the Russian ambassador done as part of Flynn's job in raising the specter of the Logan Act. So put all together, you can see the fix was in for Flynn.

We're pissed they didn't have the evidence on him, so they cooked up that out of nowhere, this Logan Act nonsense, and then perpetrated illegal leagues against him to quote, in their words, get him fired. Yeah. I've got to say, Sean that the new information, in particular, it seems to me that we have to. We have to start. You know, one part of this that has always been a very a very clear objective from the media angle, has been to make sure that that the Obama administration component of

this is never discussed. You brought up this this secret meeting. It is completely to me. It is unfathomable and not in the least credible that Obama's appointee FBI director would not have been brief in this. Remember, the people that were making these decisions came and struck and others. They very much We're trying to justify this behavior that they

were doing. So why wouldn't if their actions were legitimate, if they really thought that this was a national security threat that the incoming National security advisor posed, wouldn't they be obligated to at least inform Obama. I don't believe that they kept too. How would they keep him out of this? That makes no sense. No, I think we now know that this, this entire hoax and this entire attempt against Trump went to the very top of the

US government at the time. And I don't think we even have to really go out on a limb to do that, because, again, according to texts from our good friend Peter Struck. When he had texted the agent to say, you need to keep this case open. He immediately texted Lisa Page, because the two of them, per Trump, were the lovers. Texted her just minutes after he was able to keep the case open and said, Hey, it's still open.

Isn't this amazing? And by the way, the seventh floor is in charge of this, the seventh floor being a reference to the director's suite, James Coomy. So it is it is not conceivable to me that this thing was magically reopened, even though there's no evidence according to the FBI that the seventh floor, Komey and McCay were involved, and that the very next day Comey, Yates, and Obama

and Susan Rice meet to talk about it. And the reason we know about that January fifth meeting because Susan Rice pinned this very odd email to herself the moment Trump was being inaugurated on January twenty, twenty seventeen, saying, Oh, I just want to posterity to know I did everything by the book here. Everything was all good. We didn't do anything illegal. Obama trouble us to do it by the book. If that's not a smoking gun about what they were up to with Flynn. Then I don't know

what it is. I think that's hilarious, by the way, the old the old shoot the email to yourself that says I was a good person who did not break the law. Period. These people have got to be kidding me. But you know, I'm sure fake Tapper is going to be all over that one. Sean, Well, I'm sure he'll be all over it once he gets out of everyone's dms complaining that they're not being nice enough to him on the internet. Yeah, that's probably true. We're talking to

Sean Davis of the Federalist. Sean also, just what is it that we now are waiting for in terms of the federal judge that's looking at the case and where we stand with possible exoneration. We're hoping the president doesn't have to use a pardon because we all know if the president pardons him, even though in any reasonable world he should be pardoned. This is completely insane, and we've got we've got FBI agents who are one weren't even sure that he How can you be not sure that

he lied? And then and then have Mueller charged him for lying later two had no real objective reason for even talking to him. I mean, look, I was in the CIA, I used to work with FBI guys. Sometimes if they had saddled up next to me, like we were getting coffee at the machine, They're like, hey, Buck, like, you know, remember that thing you did yesterday with that guy? How did that go? And I was like, oh yeah, and I got something, I said something wrong. I wouldn't

expect them to slap the cuffs on me. I mean unless I was talking about, you know, selling drugs on the side or something. But that's where we're that's where we're up against here. They were having a collegial conversation with someone that was the National Security advisor, and then they tried to get him to lie. They even said it, according to the notes from the top FBI counter intelligence official, which he came out earlier this week. He said, I mean,

what's the point here. Are we wanting me to get the truth or we trying to get him to lie to get him fired? And I think that's what's so distressing, and made the point that the agents involved in this initially said PERCOMI perk for their own notes, we don't think he lie there's no indication that he was lying.

But we get to go back to the struct text, because you've got to love that this whole thing came crashing down because these two people couldn't keep it in their pants and then couldn't keep their discussions off of government cell phones. Just to show you the level of incompetence we're dealing with here. They almost got away with it if not for that. But according to Peter Struck's texts, he told me a page oh yeah, yeah, that three

h two. I basically had to completely rewrite it, or I tried not to completely rewrite it, but I had to edit it and still keep it in the voice of the agent who actually wrote the original form, the agent being Joe Pincus. So we have Struck in his own words, admitting that weeks after the fact, he was going back and editing the original form to make it

say things that we think didn't actually happen. What happens now, Sean, you think that we're going to see I'm Ever since the McCabe non prosecution decision was made, which I predicted and was correct, I've been saying all along, guys, don't expect any don't expect anybody that this system likes that they still because Flynn was outside the system. Even though

he was of the system, they hated him. Right there are people inside of it, and this is true of Brennan and the way he feels about other government employees who are tied to Tromp. Right there, there are people who are not part of the cool kid club, and that means that you're going to have this level of immunity even when your moufeasance comes to the surfaces, as happened with McCay blind and the Oarth. He's not going

to prison, he's not even being charged. Do you think that there's gonna be Do you think there'll be any accountability here as we get more of this information or do you think that this is just going to be a political issue. I don't know. So there's two issues. There's the Flynn case issue and then there's you know, the larger FBI and dj corruption issue. With the Flynn case, he's got two motions. Pen One is to withdraw his

guilty plea. He's got a whole bunch of reasons he's put in writing with the court for why he should be able to withdraw it. And the other is a motion to dismiss the case entirely due to egregious government misconduct. Now, the judge in that case has a history of throwing the book it corrupt federal law enforcement initials who try to frame people. They did it the Ted Stevens case. But he's also a complete wild card. He had a couple of outbursts earlier in the case where he personally

called Flynn a trader, he attacked Flynn's attorney. So what he's going to do? I don't have any idea. I think Justice demands that this case be dismissed with prejudice and that all these people involved, would it be investigated for corruption. I don't have any idea what Sullivan's going to do there. And this is perhaps of greater interest to you and me and other conservative media people, But I've seen some of the irrationalizations for the new one.

Remember now we have the FBI and their own writing saying, how do we get him to lie? What's the you know, basically, we're gonna use the Logan Act, which everyone as a joke and preposterous, where we're going to completely just do everything we can to nail this guy. They obviously were after him, and you know, I think it was was it? Um Warren Buffett who said, if the if the cops trail you for five hundred miles, are going to find a reason to pull you over, that's true. Okay, that's reality. Um,

and we know all of this stuff. What are the rationalizations? I mean I saw, I mean, he's not a he's not actually technically a liberal. But you know, formerly of National Review, David French talking about how Flynn was doing bad stuff for Turkey, Like, is that where we're going now? Because it seems like Frim was free, Flynn was framed. Is beyond dispute? Well, French, would you said you wouldn't call him a liberal. I wouldn't call him a conservative.

I call him an absolute disgrace. Um, this is a guy who praised Adam Schiff when he was lying about the FISA warrants, when he lied about the Steele dossier, when he lied about Devin dune as his report. Um, he's someone who attacked Flynn years ago, who said there was absolutely no evidence of an FBI cover up. And the sad reality is that his morality and his brain have been completely corrupted by Trump derangement, and rather than looking at the facts and looking at the principles at stake,

he just goes Orange, Man bad, Flynn man bad. Facts will matter, He's bad, He needed to go. And it's really just a sad state of affairs that these people are so deranged that they can't admit they had got the central issue really of our generation, of our government, the greatest scandal in American government history. They can't just

admit they got it wrong. Do you think there's any chance that Trump if the case is thrown out, let's say, or if they ask for a new trial and the federal government just drops the charges, you think there's any chance the Trump will bring him back in the administration. I don't know. I've seen people joking about putting Flynn in his head of the FBI to replace Christopher Ray. Now I don't know if that would be the best idea, but there would be a certain amount of poetic justice

in that. But yeah, I don't know if he'll bring him back in the thing I'm focused on is that the guy deserves justice. Facts that are to come out. This case was built on nothing but lies, and it needs to be thrown out so that the pardon never becomes necessary. This needs to be thrown out within the system. Is an example of how corrupt the entire thing was. I agree Sean Davis. Everybody the Federalist dot Com go check out his latest Theory's doing great work on this, Sean.

Have a good weekend. Thanks so much for joining us. Thank you, Buck, You're in the Freedom Hud. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Mark Conko with the Patch says, where's the first lady? Is she accompanied by a state security detail? Has she engaged in non essential travel? What is your response to people who say the stay at home order and non essential travel bands aren't being abided by your family. I believe there's a report for Millinoire

Rising Action that says that she recently traveled to Florida. Well, first of all, I want to say that in politics, it used to be that we kept our families out of it. You know, my official duties have nothing to do with my family. So I'm just not going to answer that question. It's inappropriate, and I find it reprehensible, honestly that that reporter wrote a story about it. Oh you mean that do as I say, not as I do?

Is now the ethical position for politicians to take in the midst of a lockdown pandemic that if you look at what's happening now, I'm going to keep saying it doesn't This is not making that. What we're doing doesn't make sense. Shutting down all these businesses doesn't make sense unless they think that somehow we're going to be able to eradicate the virus. It does not make sense if

we're heading for herd immunity. Yeah, and they're not saving lives, folks, because at the same if the same number of people are going to get infected. You know, if seventy percent of one hundred people get infected over the course of six months versus seventy percent of one hundred people getting infected over the course of three months, you have the same number of infected people, the same risk to them,

the same thankly outcome from a health perspective. So what do we And then they say, oh, well that the health system can't be overwhelmed. I keep looking at this, saying the hospitals are closing for lack of activity. What is not getting through to these people, Oh, it's just this is this is a pandemic of fear as well as a pandemic from a virus. But but back to Governor Pritzker here. First of all, this guy I like, I don't pay much attention to the governors in other

states because I can't. I mean, there're only a few that I follow with any regularity. It's pretty much New York, Texas, California, Florida, you know, some of the larger states by population. I know, Illinois a large state, but I don't. I don't know that much about Pritzker, but I just know that whatever whatever someone's like, hey, billionaire man, isn't your wife going to your mansion in Florida even though the rest of us are on a lockdown order and told only essential travel?

But but for her, essential travel is just you know, getting sunlight on the beach in the mansion, right, that's essential traveler. I used to think that families were left out of this. That's not an answer. That's not an answer.

This is a problem. We're going to continue to see this separation of those who are still getting a paycheck and those who are really scrambling and trying to figure out how they're going to keep their you know, people have pulled together a certain kind of life for themselves. You know, people that are working, they have you know, they have savings, they have a job, they have a future in mind, they have all these things and that

has been ripped from them. And it's not helpful for wealthy smug elites to tell those people shut up, peasant, you don't need a haircut right now, which is what you're still hearing from a lot of folks, a lot of people that have platforms and have power. You're not allowed, you're not allowed to point out that this is turning into the biggest economic disaster in the history of this country, which it is. This is going to be disastrous. I know.

We had my friend Porter Stansbury on the show yesterday and he's very smart and there's a lot more about finance than I do, But I watch politics and politics is driving this ship, not economics. And the political damage that we're doing to ourselves here is stunning and it may be irreparable. And I mean the political damage, as in the politics driving decisions about the economy. We seem to think we're just gonna be able to put all

this back together. The longer we wait, the longer we do this, that's not going to be the case, my friends, and we're heading toward what thirty trillion in debt by the end of the year if we keep doing this. They're talking about a trillion dollars for state and local governments. Are you're going to have bailout of industry after bailout of industry. This money is all coming from us, you know, this money is all coming really future generations. You know,

it's it's the people in charge. And you know there's been a you know, unfortunately, a lack of of any future planning for future generations that has defined the United States government for the last thirty or forty years. You know, they don't really care about what this is going to do to the America of the future. It's the people that are making the decisions now. You know. They want the biggest benefits. They want to run up, the debts

they want to run up, doesn't matter. And this is this is for the rest of us who are sitting here saying, hold on a second thirty trillion, guys, we can't do this. They don't have an answer other than you know, be quiet, you don't need a haircut. Well, actually we do need aircuts. Unless the producer Mark gets himself a haircut though, So that's the good news. At

least he's taken My wife gives me the haircut. Oh she does it for you, yes, well before quarantine as that was, you know, so you guys, she's an old pro at this exactly. I look, fine, that's good news, but I'm telling you we're gonna reach We're gonna reach this non compliance phase of this, and we should reach a non compliance phase of this, because it's it's absurd. Now, this is getting crazy. Okay, May fifteenth, that's it. No more,

no more mandatory quarantine. If states have to make some adjustments here or there because they have a particular issue and the numbers really do justify, fine, but after May fifteenth, man, we should be open for business. That doesn't mean an end to social distancing, no wearing of masks and closed quarter. You know it doesn't. It's not saying throw everything out that we've learned, but this can't keep going. Thanks for

listening to The bus Stson Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the iHeart Radio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. The scene in Michigan is one that I think you're going to see replayed in other places around the country. Let me also say, when I said May fifteenth got to open, I'm in New York. I'm talking about New York should open May fifteenth. I'm not talking about the rest of the rest of the country, as far as I'm concerned, should be open now for business,

open for business. It's going to be phased. Businesses won't open, some places will choose to stay closed. It's about the mandate. People need to understand there's a component here that's about freedom and choice and making your own assessments about risk, which is what we do in our daily lives all the time. The across the board lockdown is the problem.

I am not saying there is right now no future in which we just wake up tomorrow and say, okay, we're just gonna go about life and there's no problem here. But there is a future in which we could say, all right, if you want to open up your nail salon and you want to have your employees, you know, wear masks or take some indoor precautions. They're willing to show up, and there are customers who are willing to show up as well. You should be able to do that.

You know, if you want to have your furniture store open. If you want to do these things, you should be able to do that. And if you want to stay home and you know, still get the paycheck protection program stuff going, and you know you want to wait, and you want to wait till July, you want to wait till August, you have that right as well. But we need to allow. The problem alive right now is that

we're not letting people make these choices. And I know they say, oh, but it's because you're you're risking other people. That that's not necessarily the case. I mean, you're risking other people. You a vast majority that people aren't infected, So you're not risking other people, right, I mean, And at what point is this too much? At what point are we extending this into a lack of tolerance for risk that's completely unmanageable for society overall, And we simply

just can't do it. So I've gotta tell you it's trumping. So anyway, in Michigan, what's going on right now? As you had a bunch of a few hundred protesters who went inside, they said stormed the capital. I don't know if it's really you know, storming the capital. Sounds like they've seized it, and they did not seize it. They went there. A lot of them have flags and are open carry, and open carry isn't The media is always terrified of anyone who does open carry in a political context,

even when it's completely legal and under state law. There's nothing that we saw this in Virginia where you had all these open carry Second Amendment advocates and they would say, I think freedom and Constitution advocates who showed up to the capital. Not a single act of violence, not a single shot fired. You know, nobody's nobody's threatening anybody else. They're just saying, look, we're allowed to carry, so we're going to carry because we're citizens, not subjects. We are

not serfs. We are not here to do whatever the government tells us to do all the time. That's not how this works. That's not the fundamental, the underlying and foundational relationship that we have with our government. And it feels like our government has forgotten that lately. It feels like the government has started to think that well, because there's some science consensus sort of maybe that changes on

any given day. Because of all of that, Uh, they can just override the Constitution and all of our most basic rights. Nope, there is not some special area of the Constitution that says, well, and unless you think there's a really bad virus out there, and then you can

tell people to stay locked in their homes. This is this is nuts with the You know, at some point there is going to be people are going to have nervous breakdowns and they're going to start saying, I don't care what the local sheriff is going to do or the local cops are going to do, I'm going out. I want to try to open my business. And people have already started to do this. They're effectively daring the government to say you're not allowed to you're not allowed

to live until we say you can live. You can't live your life. No, that's on pause because we say so. This is this is a problem, my friends, This is This is what it sounded like on the on the floor of the Michigan State Capitol yesterday with these hundreds of protesters chanting let us in. They did not, in fact let them in, but the point was made. They're not going to allow for the continuation of the government. The governor there, I mean Widmer in particular, her policies

has just been decronian an absurd. It's not protecting anyone, not saving anyone. The power to make these determinations comes from from what exactly. Remember, the power to quarantine is well established. If someone is sick, that person then poses with a virus that we all know or some kind of a an infection that we know is a threat to people around them, that person then does pose some

risk to those around them. And so to say that you need to be quarantined if you are sick, that's one thing, and there are complexities there too, and that's not always as straightforward a proposition as we'd like it to be. But to say you might have a virus today or tomorrow or next month, we don't know, but you're going to stay home until we say so, that is mass house arrest and that is unacceptable. That can't

continue as it is. And I'm seeing the the rise in Oh the models are predicting a big second spike. All the models are predicting, yes, there will be more cases of this. There's no future in which there are

not more cases of this. So everyone, everyone who's doing all the scaremongering needs to just say what they really mean, are you telling us that you want us to stay in lockdown until the virus goes away, which is going to be at least a year or two from now, or are you claiming that any reopening and return to normal or something approaching normal life For three hundred and twenty million Americans who, based on the data out of California, are at a point zero three risk of death from this,

you're going to tell them that to stay at home for how long? Oh? No? If they don't do that, then we're all like mass murderers who want granted at I mean, this is this is absurd. This is absurd. And if the ultimate goal, if they it sounds to me increasing like the epidemiologists don't want to admit this, the ones that are getting quoted in the media at the time, But we are actually heading for like most

of the country getting infected. Over remember initially it was oh my gosh, most of the country's going to get infected and two million people will die. Well, now we're back to here, Well, it looks like most of the country. When I say most, I meet it sixty to seventy percent. That was that was the the estimate from these epidemiologists that CNN was quoting. He might say, Buck, why do you believe them? And you know, other does anyone deny that?

I want to see a refutation of this. How do we prevent sixty percent of the population over the next twelve to eighteen months from being infected with this? What are we supposed to shut down forever? Because if you don't shut down forever, then you are looking like you're going to have mass And I've already had. New York is already twenty percent, twenty five percent. So you know, you look around and you say, I know, how far

away are we from this making? You know, and it's only been here, It's been here for a few months. Another important thing. I just want to note this for people keep talking about how this versus a you know, this versus a year of flu. The flu season is like five to six months long, and we've been dealing with this for a good portion of a flu season. But if we're going to compare things, let's at least

compare them accurately. You know, the the the real, the real flu deaths occur around the same period of time that the deaths from the Wuhan coronavirus have been occurring during the calendar year. Just keep saying everyone talk about this as though it's either they're annualizing or they're making this a a yearly number, when it's like, well, this is actually about three This is about a six month period that you're gaging year and a year out from

upper respiratory infection. I know that's a little bit perhaps in the weeds on this, but I do think that's a worthwhile point to keep in mind. Liberate Michigan. Trump tweeted out, I think he's you know, he's in a tough spot here because he wants businesses to reopen, but he also knows that the left and lives are going to pounce on him the moment they get an opportunity, the second that there's any opening here for the president

to get blamed for this, they'll do it. So he's trying to encourage the states to make these decisions, in part because that's right constitutionally, but also because he knows that if he's the one that's making the final call, especially if it's in a very blue state, it'll all be on him. But it is just I can't emphasize this enough. We need to reopen or things are going to get much worse in every respect. We need to

start going back to work, and that's remember. Going back to work doesn't mean that we don't have these problems. And it's not going to be a celebratory thing. It'll be a bit of an exhale. Maybe it'll be a little bit of progress, there'll be some relief from it, but it's not going to be Yay. We're not all better, we're not out of the woods, but the alternative is just insane. And we've been waiting and waiting and waiting.

Two weeks of shutdown. I've told you two weeks is shutdown, that that was manageable, and that was what they promised us, and then they extended it four more weeks, and now they're extending it another two maybe four weeks, depending on where you are, and telling us they may extend it

even beyond that. Enough is enough. Those of us who want to go back to some degree of not normalcy, just some degree of living our lives, we should be able to do that, and we should focus on protecting those who are at higher risk from this, and that that is the only way for it. The other way is to pretend that we can just keep hiding under our beds from this, which we simply no one will will. No one thinks that we can really do that, but some people keep holding out that as an option. Anyway,

we can't do it. So let's stop. Let's come together, Let's be adults about this one, and move forward as a society, as a country, As a people, we the American people, need to have our individual rights and freedom back and deal with this the way we deal with other things, which is with constitutional safeguards in place. Accepting that the world is dangerous and imperfect and there are risks,

we gotta do what we gotta do. And I'm here in New York City, going outside, going to stores, subjecting myself to this much more so than ninety percent of the rest of the country does. And I'm saying this, Okay, I know what this thing has done to this city. I know what the risks are, but I also know that my individual risk and other people's individual risks were roughly of my age anywhere in the country is not

so high that we should stop living our lives. We need to keep the economy going so that there is the economic foundation to pay doctors and nurses and keep food on the shelves and keep everything going. We gotta keep everything going. That's the best thing we can do for those in the higher risk population, because can you imagine. I mean, we're already talking about meat shortages, and you know, thirty trillion in debt, and you know businesses, and we'll

talk about how small businesses are doing. It's not good, folks. Even with the money the federal government shoveling at them, they're still going to be going under. A lot of them are, and they're never going to reopen. There is a cost to all of this that with every day that passes, it gets worse, and the upside of the continued lockdown inexplicable right now, inexplicable. If we're going to go out and face the virus, why aren't we going out and facing the virus? Those of us who choose

to do so. That's not everybody. If you don't want to leave, I'm not telling you to leave. If you don't want to subject yourself to the outside world until there's a vaccine, that's your choice. God bless. But those of us who want to go out and are willing to take that individual risk, and to take mitigation measures to protect other people as we can around us, and to protect elderly relatives, to protect those in higher risk groups that we love and carabout and want to make

sure we keep them as safe as we can. We should be able to do that, and I have not heard a compelling reason why we shouldn't be able to do that. And if someone y else about testing one more time, I'm just going to throw photos in their face of empty testing centers all across the country, which is what we have right now. We don't do enough tests. People aren't showing up to take the tests at the numbers that they're telling us to. How do you deal with that? You're in the Freedom und This is the

buck Sex and Show podcast. Think of it. We've spent eight trillion dollars in the Middle East and we're not fixing our roads in this country. How stupid? How stupid is it? And we're not fixing our highways, our tunnels, bridges, are hospitals, even our schools. Even it's crazy, it does seem like a an absurd thing that's happened in the last twenty years. When you think of how much money we've spent on foreign wars for what for what I've been in a rock, I've been in Afghanistan, I would

wonder what you know? The only the only compelling arguments I've heard for the continued US military actions in those countries that have stretched on for years and years are to prevent the psycho Gehattas from murdering lots and lots of innocent people, and to protect one another because they're deployed over there, meaning to our military folks fighting to make sure their brothers and sisters in uniform get home. But as a as a strategic matter, Ah, what exactly

have we gotten? And think of all the money we have spent, And this is money, this is our money that is going again just shoveling money to Afghanistan. It's a it's a money pit that will never end. And we just keep shoveling money and shoveling money. And now we're facing thirty trillion dollars in debt, and there are places where we are already seeing the Small business program does not have the cash it needs to keep businesses alive the way that it was intended to. You have

the six hundred and sixty billion dollars. Oh my gosh, it's enormous number, billion dollar aid program for small businesses. The problem is the Treasury Department came in and said, well, you can seventy five percent of that money can go for employee salaries and no more than twenty five percent on rent, mortgage and mortgage interests and utility payments. Well, guess what some businesses their biggest expense by far is their lease and personnel are not really that pricey in

comparison to it. That is the especially for smaller businesses that are in high foot traffic areas, restaurants and salons and things like that. The big expense is to have at brick and mortar location for people to come in and can you know, and to buy patronize your business, and that that is not at twenty five percent, it's not enough. Here's an example. It's in the Wall Street

Journal today. Andrea Hans dismissed twenty five of her employees on March seventeenth, after New York City ordered businesses like her Manhattan hair salon to close. She and the salon's co owner, Josie Sanchez, applied for one hundred and seventy four thousand dollar alone through the federal program, but only forty three thousand, five hundred dollars could go to non payroll expenses, not enough to cover nearly sixty thousand dollars in rent for the two month period covered by the

PPP plan. So there's short almost twenty grand on rent. Where's that going to come from? And remember that that this mean, this is all? Because why not just cover all? Why not just tell people that you'll cover whatever their business expenses are. The Treasury will just you know, send us essentially a voucher or send us the what's the producer mark? When you when someone's gonna pay you, you send them a what's it called? I'm blanking on the word.

You gotta help me out? I are you? No? Well no, no, no, A not a memory invoice? Invoice? Thank you? That's it. You send them an invoice. These are my business expenses since you guys shut me down, well, because that would be even more expensive than the six hundred and sixty billion. We all know we don't have endless cash, but we keep thinking we do something like we know we don't, but we keep acting like we do. Otherwise, why not give all these businesses what they need to stay open?

And to survive. Maybe they will, but then we're giving them so much money that everyone's going to start to say, when does our debt just collapse our economy or be such a dragon the economy that we never have the kind of productivity and standard of living that we're used to ever again, I think we're approaching that point. I don't mean to be a gloom and doom guy, but I think we're closer than we think. Thanks for listening to the bus. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the

iHeart Radio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, everybody, I want to I don't know if I have great news to send you off in the weekend with other than we will Endure and Team Buck. One day we will be sitting together eating barbecue. I'll be drinking cider

because I can't drink beer. You'll be drinking beer or your adult beverage of choice or Seltzer if you want to go that rout, and we'll be hanging out somewhere in Austin or Denver or San Diego or wherever at a barbecue joint and in the Carolinas or in Florida and Georgia, or you name it, and I'm trying to like trying to cover all the country here, you know, Indiana him in Indiana a little while, and we're gonna be hanging out and life is going to be kind

of back to normal. It might be a while, but we'll get there. But in the meantime, we also need to have some fun on some laughs when we ken. And I gotta tell you, it's always good when I when I send something a producer Mark, if I tell him a funny title, he gives me a very particular kind of laugh. And when he even agrees with me that something is very funny, we know it's good. This is Alex Joe, who once or twice has look it's humorous.

It's kind of an honor when Alex Jones makes fun of your hair and your name and says you're a deep state plant trying to take over media, which I wish that were true. I think I'd live in a bigger apartment. But nonetheless, he's he's crazy, but he's he can be really entertating. This is one of the best Alex Jones, and there's some great ones. Right the thing he'd said something crazy about frogs and years, I mean

he's just said some nutso stuff. And this is one of the best Alex Jones things I've I've ever seen, and I want to share it with you because you know, Buck Sexton, he's part of the Illuminati, He's part of the Builderberg Queen of England. He knows what's going on. He understands the cam trails all that stuff. Here he is telling you about how how he is right now at this phase of the lockdown, and this is amazing. I will eat my neighbors. I'm not letting my kids die.

I'm just gonna be awesome. My superpowers being honest. I've extrapolated this out and I won't have to for a few years as I got food and stuff. But I'm literally looking at my neighbors now, I'm going I'm ready to hang them up and got him and scind him and chop them up. You know what. I'm ready. My daughters aren't starving to death. I'll eat my neighbors. See, my superpower is being honest. I'll eat your ass. I'm sorry, man, I'm sorry. Oh my god, I'll eat I'll eat your ass.

I'll eat it. Oh, Producer Mark, we did not edit this this clip you didn't. This is a real clip of him on the show. If you can only go viral by saying things like this, maybe you need a different career. That's what I'll say about him. I'll eat your ass us. He's so crazy, Oh my god, that his followers are so nuts. You're like, Bux checks you. Alex told me all about you. I know you're a bad guy. You're a bad main part of CIA CFAR c I A d I A CFAR elemental p q R S t u V. I know I know where

you're coming from. I understand well, I'm combat model, offer the self sufficiency, probably the leader. The point is is have you thought about that yet? Because I'm somebody that thought I could fix this, and I'm starting to think about having to eat my neighbors pretty ser MARKEV have you have you yet reached the point where you're you think you might have to know neighbors. I'm not even clinically insane. I didn't think so. He's like, I'm I'm

gonna hang him up. I'm gonna dry age. Honestly, if you're gonna if you're gonna eat a neighbor, you gotta season him properly. You gotta gotta put salt, pepper, maybe a little bit of fresh herb, you know, a spring of time, and hang him upside down and go for it. You know what I'm saying. Gotta make sure you gotta drain all the juices first, dry age them, and then you know, make sure you get that human and sear. You gotta sear the human beer. I mean, I think

he's look. I think I do think he's he's intentionally being provocative or it's parody or whatever. I don't care. It's hilarious. It's amazing, Okay, the fact that this guy's run around saying, I'll eat your ass. Oh you think he's kidding. I don't know. I'm wondering, is anyone would anyone really say this? I mean, if anybody would, I'm gonna eat my neighbor. That's I've never heard. I've never

heard that before. Do you remember there's the old cartoon, like from the Bugs Bunny era, with the kind of round guy and the skinny guy on the island and they're looking at each other, and then the skinny guy starts thinking the round guys a hamburger and this, and the round guy thinks the skinny guy's a hot dog. I feel like I've seen that before. You right, it's an old cartoon of guys being like marooned on an island, on a you know, a desert island or whatever. But

I mean, Alex Jones is already there. Man. You know, you know we're walking around as hamburgers and hot dogs. This guy. There's no food sort shortage. Yeah. In fact, the problem, I really think that we're gonna find that there's a huge spike in sizing up my neighbor. I didn't even mean to play that it has happened. You think got lock sizing up my neighbor. I think we're

gonna find that people. I mean, look, I've I've gained just ten pounds of winter weight, and it's may like this is just the way people say, Oh, don't eat buck, do lots of push ups at home. I can't go to the gym, all right, I can't go do outside activities. I can't see my friends, I can't see my family. I can't let go around the city and do things here. What is the only producer, Mark? What are the three things we can do to entertain? Four things you can read, books,

you can watch TV. You can sleep, you can eat food. That's basically what you can do. Play video games, video games. Yeah, I mean, look, you could crochet, you could paint. I mean but in terms of physical activity, I know we're leaving at home a couple times a week, but that takes what half hour? Yeah, and even still it's Look, it's just not it's just not the same, right, I mean, you know that they can show me all these videos of God, Look, I've been I did the push ups.

I got a headache for a couple of days, and that sounds whimpy, but I couldn't do it when I had a headache because I get chronic tension headaches. But I'll get back to the push ups, I guess, because otherwise, you know, there's gonna be an explosion of of moves around the country. You're familiar with moves, expecting that word to come out of your mouth. It's a man move, I know, But like that's not something you would normally say, an explosion of moves. That is that not true? Okay,

I already had the moves way before this quarantine. Puck. I'm just saying, Man, I'm looking around here, I'm like, thank God, the beaches are closed in New York because bab a Buck does not what I take a shirt off right now, it's I'm leaving my shirt on if the beach is actually too open. You know, it's better to keep the sun off your skin anyway, so you know, you want to avoid I don't want any you know, melanomas or anything like that, so I gotta make sure

I keep my my pale skin. Oh man. Uh So anyway, yeah, that's gonna be that. I think there's gonna be a lot of you know, increases in just anything related to people eating a lot of junk food and bad food, all those health issues. I think you're gonna see a lot of that because what else you gonna do? Man, I mean, every night I'm sitting here, I'm just like, I cook for myself or if I can. There's a couple of takeout places in New York that's still deliver

that I can eat. So anyway, well, let's let's uh, it's it's we've we've entered that phase of the show. Mark We're just like, oh god, we've got Alex Jones. I want to finish up with what his what his thoughts are here on all this and to eat my neighbors. You think I like, size it up my neighbor, how I'm gonna haul him up by chain and chop his ass up. I'll do it. My children aren't going hungry. I will eat your ash. That's why I want the

globals to know. I will eat your ass first. I would actually hear that last hold up, that man has procreated? I'm sorry, what what do you say? I just say that man has procreated? Oh yeah, he's got a family, he's got he's he's a radio ho. He's got like a radio stations that play him. But he's like, he's like, I'll tell the globalist this is a quote, folks, globalless, I will eat your ass first. Imagine you're the boss of a radio station and you hear that over your

air waves. Oh my gosh, buck sext It he making fun of me again? Is he making jokes of mox Spence. He's gonna start coming after producer Mark after this now too. Oh yeah, it's probably probably true. He's gonna he's gonna be coming after both of us. But my god, man, that was that is that is one of the all time great Alex Jones, Alex Jones trips um or clip. It's not trips, well, it's it's kind of a trip

actually if you look at up. But hey, folks, I I thought we should all just enjoy that one together for a second, because wow, you know we need those We you know, I needed a good we needed a laugh. Producer Mark and I both needed a laugh. And we we have tip mister Alex Jones for providing that amazing laugh because just I can't words, cannot describe. That's why we had to play the audio for you. You're in the Freedom Hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast.

I think the only thing we can do at this point is get to roll call, because otherwise I'm gonna get a case of the sillies again talking to producer Mark about about other stuff there. But I hope you will. I hope you all had some fun with that one. Um, let's go to let's start this off with John John. Oh. Let me also say please go to bucksex and dot com.

We had a piece up that went to viral yesterday on why Brocco is ultimately responsible for what happened when he was commander in chief and the head of the federal government during the presidential transition involving Flynn and Russia collusion, all the rest of it that, you know, the buck

stops with Obama. That's just the truth. They can tell you it doesn't, but it does no accountability whatsoever, I want to say, accountability at least there should be some willingness to look into what did Obama know about all this? Really he didn't know anything. The president, the incoming national security advisors under investigation for the during the transition, and the administration that's still empowered. They don't know they're going

after him. You really, you really believe that? I don't believe that. Oh they keep it separate, Buck, Sure they do. Like we're all idiots, like we believe these like we believe these people act in good faith anymore? Right, Struck page Brannan, comey, Yeah they act in good faith? Please all right? Yeah, bucksexon dot com please bookmark it. And yeah, we appreciate you writing in to the face book dot com, slash Buck Sexon or team buck at iHeartMedia dot com options.

That's how we get that's how we get roll call going. John writes in Buck, thank you for reading our ideas and giving honest input. I value your opinion on my thoughts very highly. I'm always interested in hearing what others think. Now. I plan on voting for Trump in twenty twenty, but I have to be honest. It worries me when he says the economy will just come roaring back when the lockdowns are lifted. Fortunately I live in Texas and we'll

start experiencing freedom again soon. But with our massive unemployment and all kinds of businesses closing their doors, I don't see us getting back to where we were until late next year. If Trump has a plan for the economy, then I'd like to know what it is. I just pray to God that Washington won't spend another trillion dollars to jump start the economy once COVID is in the rear view. John, I think you are correct here. I

think that the President is trying to give confidence. I think that he's trying to make everybody feel like it's going to be okay, because psychology does matter in all of this. But I am also worried about where the economy is going to go, and it does feel to me like we're going to be the climb out of this even Let's be honest about this part of it.

Even if people were all of a sudden that the Democrats the lives would agree with me and say let's start opening up our different states as fast as we can. Even if that were to happen, then I would want to know how well will that go for us? No one, no one can answer that. I mean, we think that we're going to open and all of a sudden there may be very very slow, you know, very slow economic activity that takes a while, and it's going to build

I think over time. And there's the scenario as well where we have a reopen that has followed with an additional shutdown because of a spike. Now, I think we're going to have a real fight over this because how much of a spike is going to be you know, able to justify the shutdown? Right? How much of a spike do you need? That's where they'll be debate. That's where there'll be an argument about this. But yeah, John, I think I think we're heading for a bad economy

for a while. I don't see a way around it. I think that this is going to be a drag on us. I think that we'll be getting will be improving, and improvement will feel like, you know, taking a shower when you have it in a week, right, I mean, improvement will feel great, but it's not going to be It's not going to be what we were used to before this happened. That's for sure. It isn't This also

a reminder when I was telling you in others. I'm not saying just me, but when I was telling you for the first three years of Trump's presidency, wow, we have a great economy. When Trump was saying it, he was telling the truth. The economy was just booming. It was a booming economy, and yet you still had lives who were lying about it all the time. Do you think that they feel chastened it all by this? Oh well, now the economy is terrible. Before it was great, they'll

admit that. But they were telling us when it was great that it was terrible. These people have no honor, no integrity, no honesty, none, zero. But John, I hope I'm wrong and you're wrong on this one, because it would be great if the economy came back. But I think you and I are both right and that this is going to take a long time. This is this is we will be through a long recovery, economic recovery will be at that. I think it'll coincide actually with

the vaccine. So I think we'll have been dragged through a very slow recovery period and for a year to eighteen months from now, then we'll feel like, wow, the economies actually we are doing pretty well, We're heading the virus pretty well. And at that point there'll be a vaccine, will say well, I mean we're kind of already you know, up and running again, but a vaccine will still be fantastic. At least we won't have anyone else or very few

people dying from this. The vaccine could also, I think, be something that is like the flu vaccine, where you have to get it, you know, different versions of it year and a year. I don't know. Again, that's that's beyond my knowledge set, and I admit that. But anyway, no, you know, we just we've all got to just hope for the best here and do what we can in the meantime. Kevin hey Buck regarding nice folks in New York City. I drove into Queens Ones from Midwest Ohio.

As I was walking to my buddy's place, there was a guy coming my direction on the sidewalk out of habit I looked him dead in the eye, smiled and said, hia. Oh boy. That guy glared at me like I just said the worst thing in the world about his mother for about point two seconds, and then he looked at the ground and kept walking. That said, I love New Yorkers. There's a camaraderie among New Yorkers. There's a common understanding that NYC is the greatest city in the history of

the world. And blank you it's good when someone's proud of where they come from. Brucier Mark, I think that's a pretty good description of New York. No, yeah, that's a great description. If somebody said hia to me on the street, I would like I would give him a death stare, right, But we also New Yorkers all do think that this is the best city. I wouldn't say this they're the best place, because if you don't like cities,

you're not gonna like it here. But if you're looking for the best city, I think this has been the best city in the world, certainly for the last twenty years or so. Oh yeah, it's the greatest city in the world. I hate it and I don't want to live here anymore. But you can't say that, yeah, because I'm a New Yorker and you're not. Yeah, yeah, I know.

Then there is a bit of a pride, a pride of place that comes with this that well, you know, there's all these other cities, and we're like, oh, we kind of want to pat other cities in the head. Oh your city's cute, Oh that's nice. Oh hey Boston, Oh he's Boston. All groans up? Now. Oh hey, you know Boston City their public transportation ends at like nine pm. And then we got and then we gotta you know, then we gotta make fun of the Red Sox a little bit. You know, we're a little pat on the

head for Boston. We make fun of the reds up. But we we love Boston. We love you. Gotta call it bed and root for the Red Sox before I root for the Yankees. Oh that's right, I forgot about that. Now now you're just alienating some of our New York audience instead of Boston. So there you go. Yeah, that's okay. Yeah, yeah, interesting. Aren't the Mets about to get bought by? I know, I can't wait A D A Rod and J and

J Low. Well that's that's a rumor. So they don't have enough money to buy the Mets on their own, they would other backers kind of like Derek Jeter is the figurehead owner of the Miami Marlins, but he doesn't have the biggest stake in the team. There's silent partners behind him that are the money people. Has that been Has that been a good investment? Um? They kind of. They basically traded away every single player and they've been

terrible for years and claim they're still rebuilding. Miami's not a baseball town. They like football and a little bit of basketball. It sounds about right. All we got more roll Call coming up in a second. Thanks for listening to the Bust. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, it's roll Call, but it's also the Penalty Box with

producer Mark What What are you gotta? What are you guys going to be eating in the Penalty Box this weekend? What are you watching? Bring us into your quarantine? I'm definitely making chicken cutlets tonight. Who got those defrosted? I mean, who doesn't like a good chicken cutlet? Yeah? Yeah, How do you make those gluten free though? Very curious? Um, can you? Yeah, of course, you just use flower. Oh

I've made fantastic veal I mean sorry, chicken scalapeine. Chicken not veal, because we would not eat little veal chicken scalapeene. And uh, you can make chicken marsala, I mean chicken um millonnaise. You just use it the different flour you should one day. Well, I'll have when you know the world stops ending, you and missus Mark will come over. I'll cook for you, guys. But all you do is

change the flower. Everything else is exactly the same on most of these dishes, and the flour is not something that the flavor really the consistency can be slightly different, but the flavor is exactly the same. I've met the bread crumbs though, What do you mean when you make a chicken cutlet your bread and make with gluten free bread? Okay, yeah, yeah, gluten free bread crumbs. Oh they sell them in a store too, dude. The GF community, the GF community is

growing all the time. So yeah, it's gotten really big. Like I remember when I was a kid that was gluten free was not a term. No, no, and let me tell you, don't. Don't go to China and ask for help with gluten free because they look at you like what you're like, Yeah, I know it's weird. But then you just end up eating a lot of rice. That's yeah, pretty much your only culinary option if you go traveling to China you're gluten free. It's very hard. I mean, it's a good place to eat rice, I guess.

I mean the rice. The rice was good. There's a lot of rice everywhere in all the restaurants. But soy sauce is the big problem there. Soy sauce, your your soy sauce is a no go. It's got a lot of a lot of gluten in it. So anyway, we'll see. We're gonna watch this weekend. I think there's a new Jerry Seinfeld comedy special coming out on Netflix this weekend, so I'm definitely gonna watch that. So like Seinfeld old

school stand up Yeah, oh he's done one before. They did like a documentary slash stand up special about Seinfeld like maybe a year ago, and now this is just a stand up special from Seinfeld. I was watching the I'm almost done with it. But the Waco series so good. They're really intense and does not make the government look good. But the Waco series I give a two thumbs up too for sure to get on that after we finished Silicon Valley. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well it's very like Silicon

Valleys like a night. You know, it's funny and like you can watch it and you know it doesn't The Waco thing will stress you out a little bit, that's the thing. You'll be like, oha, gosh, I like stuff like that. Yeah, if you can handle that, I'm gonna watch Last Kingdom Outrid, Son of Outrid. I'm gonna get into some of that, and I'm gonna take the frenchief for some walks and hopefully I'll be able to get away with not wearing a mask out in public and

open space, not near anybody. Okay, if the dog gets COVID for me, that's the dog's problem. I don't want to you know, anyone else. Just stay away from me. Okay, I'm not going near you. It's crazy, all right, more roll call. Let's see here, Jen. Hey Buck, I know you were a Mayo lover and already have a favorite, but I was wondering if you've ever tried the Japanese mayo que pie. It's amazing. What makes it different from American mayo is that it only uses the egg yo. Also,

the rice vineer gives it a sweet, tangy flavor. Give it a try. PS love the show. Say hi to Mark, Hi Mark, Jen says hi Hi Jen. Nice to hear from you. Yeah, and as for I've have you heard of this, Cupie? I don't know this, Cupie. No, you know I hate mayo. Well, I didn't ask you if you had it. I just have you heard of it? I've never even heard of this before. I don't want

to hear of any new mayos. Yeah. I guess asking you about mayo in general is like we're going to a you know that's not a producer Mark Specialty so que pie. Let me see quepie mayo. Oh yeah, cupie mayonnaise. I've never seen this before, Cupine Corporation. Wow, that's a real thing. Okay, thanks for the heads up. I'll check it out. I make my own producer Mark. We might at the ear muffew for this one. I make my own saracha mayo sometimes, which is really hard. You just

take mayo and take saracha sauce. And squeeze it into your mayo and mix it up. You've got saracha mayo. It's great, delicious. Unfortunately, I have to let the stuff into my house sometimes because my wife does like mayo. She loves the spicy mayo when you go get sushi. Oh you mean your wife has the correct palette and actually appreciates the deliciousness that is mayonnaise. Well, well, missus mark good food. That's what we like to hear. She also doesn't eat steak, So we got to talk about

this one. What do you mean We've brought this up a thousand times on the show already. She doesn't eat red meat because it upsets her stomach. Oh no, that's okay. Yeah, if it doesn't sit well though, that's what that's another. That doesn't mean I can't mock her for it occasionally. Yeah, I had a friend new years ago, had a really serious girlfriends. This is not. This is not like an I had a friend that it's me. This is actually because this is not but and now of course it

sounds like it is, but it really isn't. But his girlfriend at the time went vegan and uh, yeah, that was a tough one because he had been eating a lot of meat, and all of a sudden, it's like, well, we can't. It's not. It's one thing when someone anyone can make their own choices about food, but when you have to abide by their choices too, is things get tricky. Right. It's like imagine imagine like you know, producer Mark, if you and missus Mark, if she was like, no, you

can't even have meat in the house. That's different than that, and that'd be ridiculous, right, Well, no, but vegans can feel that way. And there was a vegan house when I was in college. It was almost it was like a lifestyle house, so you had to agree to their lifestyle to live in this. It was on campus. It was for students. It wasn't like some off campus thing. But you had to agree and abide by a vegan lifestyle.

And there were huge fights because sometimes somebody would try to cook when nobody was paying attention, eggs or meat on their communal stove, and then everybody was like, now we have to have a special cleaning. Like they would freak out about this. Yeah, I live like that. Militant vegans are a thing. Never forget it, never forget it. I know I'm not in the dating pool anymore because

I'm married. But if I was and somebody was like, yeah, you have to be vegan in the house or we can't live together, like okay, bye, I will make me. Years years and years ago, I went on a few dates with a lovely woman who was both very right wing and very America And I bumped into her New York a couple of years ago, and it, you know, just I just actually bumped into us on the street and I talked to her a little bit, and it came up in conversation that she had become essentially a

radical feminist and a vegan. And I was like, what, like, how did this happen? What? But yeah, so some people they go with big change. And this was over the course of maybe six or seven years. You know, I saw her then six six seven years later saw her again. But I can tell you when she loved America and freedom, she was way more fun that I can tell you, way less fun when she became a vegan, left wing feminist,

which was which was a bummer for humanity. I think, all right, Paul, here's my question for a role called General Flynn was obviously set up, but he was also fired for lying to VP Pence. So I'm on the President's side no matter what. But what is up with that? Um? Yeah, Paul, you know that's that's a that's a fair point. Um. And I think you know, you look at the the

lie to General. Remember there was all this pressure on it because the FBI was also involved, so they heightened the pressure on this not this lie that was really it was unimportant, it didn't really matter. But also you know this is there was an illegality to expose the lie too. The quote lie. I mean, I think, I honestly think that General Flynn just forgot like he was talking of the Russian ambassador, like he talked to a lot of people, and he's just like, yeah, you know whatever,

And you know, it's not that hard. And I know this this does this does sound like water caring, and I understand that. But if you've ever been as I have, under what is effectively a many hours long polygraph interrogation, you know that you know, sometimes your head you go, well, I mean, and you start thinking about if I say that, is it true? Can I get away with saying that and have it still be true? You know, you start

to get into these gray areas. You can forget things, you can be stressed, you can say the wrong thing. It's not as straightforward as you know. If somebody asks you, you know, what is your name? And I say, oh, you know, my name is Sarah, and then and then they ask me again and they're like, wait, are you sure that's your name? And I say, oh no, wait, don't you know there is more than just an initial mistake.

If you're going to talk about somebody under an intense derogation or under any kind of scheme to see if someone telling the truth, there's more than just is every single thing you say one percent accurate? That is that, that is a fact. People misremember things, they forget things, right. There's a difference between forgetting and lying, is what I'm getting it. There's a difference between a mistake and a willful, a will full shift away from the truth for the

purposes of deception. That's actually why I know polygraphers, we'll talk about deception. That's what they're looking for. They're looking for markers of deception. And remember libs don't care about lies. Look at Trump, I mean not Trump. Sorry, well, they chare about Trump's lies of course a lot. Then look at you know Bill Clinton under oath. Oh that didn't matter. That was a crime as a felony. They didn't care. So they're all full of crap. You're in the freedom hunt.

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All right, back into roll call, Patrick Buck. I believe the southernmost states are probably the most friendly Georgia minus Atlanta, Alabama and Mississippi. Huh why minus Atlanta? Oh? Sorry, Georgia minus Atlanta and then Alabama. MISSI I was like, whoa, why are Alabama Mississippi being thrown under the bus here? I misread that he's said Atlanta is not that friendly city folk. You know we are. We can be Look look at producer Mark. We can be a crotrity bunch.

Alabama has a plus the food Bama brought home the beard? Last, what's prouser Mark? What is this? Proabama brought home the beard? Is this like a is this like a thing? A trophy for football or something? Might be a football thing? Oh wait, is that the James Beard Award? Could that be what that is? Maybe if you want amazing food, come visit from barbecue to ot cuisine. We have it in spades, all right, Patrick? Um, I didn't I be honest with I did not know that Alabama was particularly

known for its cuisine. I know that it's barbecue is very highly regarded. But I have also not spend time in Alabama, so I need to go. I need to go check it out. And I know people people I know from Alabama are lovely, so that's always a big sign of why place is worthwhile. Jackie Right's just tried Susie's Maple donut. Finally something sweet I can eat. Pass along my kudos. Thank you for mentioning these treats some time ago. Yeah, Susie's is my brother is the co founder.

My older brothers the co founder of this company. They it's called Susie's s O o z Y. They've got a really good gluten free and wholesome foods that you can all baked goods. They've got donuts, they've got muffins, they have them a lot of the big grocery stores I think they got them in like Wagmans and Kroger's and a lot of the whole foods across the country. And you can also go online to their website. So, yeah, that's my brother's company. Thank you for checking it out.

I have a maple Susie's donut literally every morning with my black Rifle coffee. It's true, and Telula loves them, so I always have to give her a little piece of it. And I know I shouldn't be. This is where everyone yells at me. Buck, I'm a dog owner. Don't give your dog sweet treats and it'll make it fat. Oh my god, she's eleven. Okay, you know what I mean. You know, if grandma wants to sneak a little extra butter on her potatoes, what aren't we gonna say no? Right?

Producer Mark, Yeah, I mean, once I get to like seventy, what's the point? You know? So I want to look like you know, you gotta tell Grandpa, no burnet sauce. Let Grandpa have his Burnett sauce. Telulah's you know, she's getting up there. She wants a little sweet treat. I don't give her a lot, but she is. I will say. She's got these cute little sweaters and they're so ridiculous and so cute that my mom gave me for her to make sure that she doesn't go out and you know,

a cold weather. And when I try to put the ball though, man, she's she's quarantine's making her burst at the seems a little bit too. I mean, those sweaters are getting tough to put on. I'm just gonna say it. So that's why I tell I tell my parents. She looks more and more like a baby seal, staying flat on the ice to avoid the Polar Bears. That's what she looks like. Debrah. Right, I'm in North Idaho. Things are pretty quiet here. We've had cases of wuhan flew

but are beginning to open up starting next week. I thought that if you were laid off or furloughed and got called back to work, you would lose your unemployment if you do not go or did not go, that would mean all these people who want to stay home to get more money would lose that money for refusing to take their job back. That's how it used to be. Love your show, well, Debra, thank you so much for writing in. I'm glad that things in North Idaho are

but quiet. Interesting act in North Idaho I was watching as I was watching the Waco series, that is where Ruby Ridge is. People didn't know that. I think people that live there, I'm sure know that. But in the rest of the country, Ruby Ridge is in northern Idaho, near Naples, I believe, which is also in northern There's a Naples, Florida. There's a Naples, just like there's a there's an Oxford, England, and an Oxford, Mississippi. And you know, you start looking at there's a Ithaca, New York and

Ithaca in Greece. Right, So yeah, it's it's been a long day already, folks, You know what I mean, I've just gotta things are just coming into my brain and they're coming out. But at least somebody yellow. And I'm gonna eat the globalists. I'm gonna eat them. I'm gonna eat them. Producer Mark, We're gonna eat the globalists. We're not We're not gonna do that. We don't eat people here. We're not eating anyone. We're not eating with this. The Buck Sexton Show is you know, you can call us crazy,

but Producer Mark and I are officially anti cannibalism. Anti. I never thought the show would have to take an official sta it's on cannibalism, but we're there. We are anti cannibalism. We've decided no, we just say no to eating human beings. So we got that going for us, which is nice. Chris, Hey, Buck, Things are looking a little better out here in California. Has individual cities and counties along the coast started opening their beach last Friday.

Then suddenly today Gavin Gaverner, greasy I've ever seen that before, shut down all the state parks and all beaches in California. This comes on the same day that the County of San Diego Health Department was going to loosen the guidelines and allow the beaches, parks, bays and ocean to swimming, kayaking, fishing, etc. I'm sure you feel the same way, but it's total government overreached by the governor so much that he's upsetting everybody,

not just freedom lovers like us. Also, I've been passing the buck during this lockdown like crazy. Give up the good work and stay safe. Hey, Chris, thank you so much. Thank you for being a team Buck superstar by telling people about the show and all of you listening. We're all in lockdown. We're gonna be lockdown in a lot of states for you know, another month or two. That's what it's looking like. And when I say lockdown, you

know we'll be under restrictions, restricted movement. So, especially if you're somebody who's not able to go out much and you've got some time, please do tell folks around you, others who are also going to be spending more time at home, to listen to Buck Sexton Show. Subscribe to our YouTube channel. We're making some headway there. We're gonna putting more stuff up. It's YouTube dot com slash buck Sexton,

totally free. Just please subscribe and as we post videos there, you'll be able to see them really easily and go to Bucksexton dot com too. So that's going to be it for us here in the Freedom Hunt. Producer Mark has his orders to enjoy himself. Him and missus Mark are gonna have a nice weekend. You all under the same orders. Have a good weekend. Rest ump, relax as much as he can. We'll be back on Monday. Shield Tie