Batten Down The Hatches

Coming up on the Buck Sexton Show. Bucks Sextons coding the news and disseminating information with actionable intelligence, magnor mistake a great American Again, This is the Bucks Sexton Show. The CIA analysts you can speak to three hours without a phone call. Try doing that. Sometimes we have to put the country to work, Cliff, He'll lose a number of people to the flu, but you're gonna lose more people by putting a country into a massive recession or depression.

You're gonna lose people. You're gonna have suicides by the thousands, You're going to have all sorts of things happen. You're gonna have instability. You can't just come in and say, let's close up the United States of America, the biggest, the most successful country in the world by far. Welcome to the buck Sex and show everyone we are now in week two of quarantine. We are I think, eight days away, seven days away from the fifteen days to

stop the spread. We have all the updates for you on where this stands in different cities, counties across the country, what hospitals are already starting to feel the strain, what's going on around the world, what the Chinese government is saying about this. The package that looks like as I go to air is going to pass soon, although how soon I can't quite tell you. It maybe may already be through by the time you hear this. But there's

agreement they've said on this. Two trillion dollars of direct cash payments and then six trillion dollars of injection lending into the economy, the fed by the federal government. And so now we have to look at what the status is of this effort to get ahead of our of this pandemic, and how are we doing with regard to that. And I'm also going to promise you right now We're going to take a little bit more of a deep breath at least in the third hour of the show.

We got to talk about just how things are going. We can just allow ourselves. And this is not just for me. As I'm doing this show, I'm doing four hours radio day. It's mostly coronavirus all the time. It's the biggest story in the world. Knowing doubts that it's far and away the most important issue facing humanity right now. It's not a political issue, it's not a national security issue.

It's an everything issue all together. But we'll try to take a collective deep breath later on in the show, and just I'll share with you some things I'm reading, some things I'm seeing talking to folks. We need that sense of community. You are my community right now. I do not get to see anyone else. So the team matters in a way that is unprecedented in that sense, because I rely on all of you for human human

connection and contact with the outside world. As I am here behind pandemic lines in the middle of New York City, the place that is the worst hit of anywhere in the country and has the third most confirmed cases of any area of similar size, in the world. So this is very troubling. Well, the US, I think is number three on the overall list. I'd have to check and see where just New York alone is. But you have

a mass of spike here in cases. But you notice the president yesterday, he did a virtual town hall, he did a press conference, and you can basically count the hours until you start to see certain members of the media who are not going to lessen any of their partisanship right now. You can basically count down until they start saying that Trump, doctor Fauci, they're spending too much time in forming the public. That's what we'll be told, that they're doing too much of this press conference stuff.

And you know what a large part of that push will be, assuming that it happens, I think you'll start to see media criticism of is this the best usage of Trump's time? Is this the best usage of doctor Fauci's time? And remember this comes days after Fauci wasn't at one press conference, wasn't at one of these task force meetings that they've been holding where they answer questions and tell people what's going on and where's doctor Fauci?

Became this trending issue where's doctor Fauci. People were very, very concerned all of a sudden, and I think it's because the ability that the president has to connect with the American people to show some command of the situation, to show us that he's doing everything that he reasonably can right now to keep as many of us safe as possible and yes, get us back to economic activity as soon as possible. That means that the president, that perception has meant the President is now doing well in

terms of public approval. And I do think that most of the liberal media, you know, they are focused more on getting past us. I'm not going to say that they're acting like complete monsters. I think they want us to get past this with minimum loss of life. But they also, as a secondary concern, for sure, want to make sure that this is the end of Donald Trump, that this is the end of his administration, that's this destroys him, this defeats him, and that they can just

push Joe Biden. Who I mean, really, after three years of having Democrats talk about how, you know, Trump isn't smart enough, he's not good enough, he's not this, he's not that, and now to see them push this really a sort of doddering old man. I mean, somebody who really looks like he is in no way up for this and does not inspire confidence, does not in any way make people think that he's got a command of the situation. That's just crazy. But this is what they're

telling us now. Oh, if Joe Biden was in charge, you've noticed that he's faded in the background a little bit. And because New York is the front line of this battle right now, and because Governor Cuomo has been holding press conferences every day, he's certainly the Democratic figure that is getting the most attention in this fight, and people are asking questions. I'm just gonna say it. There are folks out there who are raising why is it that

we're all supporting Biden? You know why? Why? And we go with Cuomo from the Democrats side I'm talking about now. But I'm seeing this start to happen, and I just bring it up because Biden just doesn't have it, folks. He's not Yeah, maybe he's the nominee, but m doesn't look like he can get it done. But let's get back into where we are with this fight against the virus. The President said that we have to be concerned about a depression that will lose more people to recession depression

than coronavirus. And this is what I've been trying to talk to for a while now. And there's a very clear movement, particularly online and among some opinion journalists and bloggers and Hollywood types to suggest that anybody who is not completely on board for an open ended lockdown of the economy is throwing Grandma under the bus or off the cliff, only cares about their four one K. This

is disgusting, it's bad faith, it's not true. And the people that are looking at all the numbers and have the access to the best information right now are saying, we do have to make sure that we don't let the economy get too bad, and there will be difficult choices here ahead. I'm not saying right now. Not even Trump said we got to open the economy tomorrow, right we have the fifteen days, that is the plan. He said he was hopeful, and we play this for your yesterday,

hopeful to open things up a bit. You gotta listen to the people, I mean, you gotta listen to people who are being honest about this and tune out those who say the President promised the president set a deadline. He did no such thing. Expressions of hope are just that he's trying to keep everybody calm, forward looking while also taking the necessary precautions in this moment. But the August I mean, the April eleventh deadline is not a deadline at all. It's just the President saying, and that

it was report it as such the media. It's just the President saying, listen, we're going to get back to work as quickly as we can. And maybe back to work means masks, gloves, Maybe it means social distancing practice to the degree possible in the office, you know, hand sanitizer everywhere, very strict rules about it. Anyone who feels

even a little bit sick stays home. And you know, I mean, I'm not saying that it's ever going to be quickly the way that it was before this, but we do need to grapple with the reality of what this would become in time. I also see the meaning that if we kept the maximum shutdown in place, if we do what we're doing right now, which is a level of extreme that I think it is shocking to

a lot of people. The Governor Cuomo right now is saying that they're going to practice mandatory playground social density policing. It's a fancy way of saying, you can't have more than a few people in the ground at one time, and we'll find people if we have to, and then we might shut and they'll just shut the parks down

if they don't abide by this. So, unfortunately, when you're in a situation as we are right now, people that refuse to play by the rules, people that refuse to do what is necessary to try and protect everybody, they

make life harder for everyone. They might open streets to foot traffic but not vehicle traffic as a means of spreading things out on the streets so that you can go for a walk and you don't have to come within I mean, look, I'm out here where there's more of this virus than anywhere else in the country by far, And even on the streets that are pretty empty, you end up finding yourself unless you want to walk out into traffic, you have to walk within a few feet

of individuals. This is going to spread around the country. It's already happening. I'll tell you about that with the hospital hospital surge situation that we're already seeing in Georgia. We're already seeing in a lot of states that people don't think of as hotspots for this. Florida. Look, Florida got a lot of New Yorkers, a lot of people said, Oh, I'm going to go to my house in Florida and ride this out because things are bad in New York. Guess what, Now there's a lot more in Florida than

people were anticipating. And this is also why doctor Deborah Burkes, who has now become a household name during this, has said, if you're in New York at all, you have to be in quarantine for fourteen days. So I am now officially under guidance. I mean, I've been saying I'm in a semi self quarantine, but I knew we were just sliding toward full on quarantine. I am now, you know, in a mandated quarantine situation. That's that, or at least

that's the mandatory guidance. They're not forcing me to do this, but I'm at home for at least two weeks. And if you're in New York, it's not like two weeks from now, you'll you'll be able to think that everything is fine all they're saying, is when you go somewhere else, you've got a quarantine fort days because you could be infected, and if you're in New York, you should act as if you might be infected. That's where we are right now.

So the President is walking a very tight rope here of maximum protections for everybody while also keeping an eye on the economy. And this is necessary, and this is

not about trading dollars for lives. In fact, it is looking at the long term sustainability of this country and all of the lives in it and making sure that you know, doctors have equipment coming to them from our from our facilities, and food is still on the shelves, and some commerce is still happening because the things and I do not believe we're going to this, So I'm not I'm not trying to be a profit of doom

at all. But if we have food shortages, then all the people that are saying, oh, but you know, we can do this, we can do this for months. We don't have to change anything. I think they'll wreck ignized that that was very shortsighted, because things will get very ugly and very scary really quickly, and there will also be other strains on the healthcare system. As a result of this, people are going to be making their own decisions.

So we have to be balancing these two components of maximizing public health and safety while also keeping alive I'm not saying flourishing, keeping alive the economy. We have to do that. And that's why when Governor Cuomo said this, and I know I'm talking about New York a lot and a lot of guys, a lot of you folks aren't in New York, but this is the canary in

the coal mine. I mean, New York is showing us what's coming and what's happening, and it will come to not the same numbers, but you're going to have situations like this and most for most of you listening to this, if you're in an urban area at all, including suburbs, you know, if you're within an hour or to drive of a pretty major city, you're going to be dealing

with this. But Governor Quoma said this, and I understand where he's coming from, but I also think that this is not I think this is not really intellectually honest the way he's framing this right now, Because no one thinks that anyone's expendable. No one is okay with any American dying from this right now, we all want everyone to survive. When you start from that premise, at least, then you can act in good faith when you try to balance out the other imperatives. Here, here's what humor

play clip nineteen. I'm sorry what Ta Cuomo said. Yeah, my mother is not expendable, and your mother is not expendable, and our brothers and sisters are not expendable. And we're not going to accept a premise that human life is disposable, and we're not going to put a dollar figure on human life. The first order of business is save lives, period, whatever it costs. Now, I also don't believe it's an either or. I' believe you can have an intelligent, refined

public health strategy. To talk about risk stratification. You can have people go to work. You can test people and find out that they are resolved from the virus, let them go back to work. You're gonna have younger people go back to work. You can have an economic startup strategy that is consistent with the public health strategy. It's smart. Now, Notice how he says we'll do anything for health forever, every single life. We'll do anything. And then he says,

but you know, we're gonna have a risk stratification. That's a fancy way of saying, we're gonna have to make some tough choices. This is going to be imperfect, and there is going to be escalation of risk on either the economic side or the spread of infection, which also means loss of life because there is a percentage of people that get infected that will die from this. So he's saying, effectively, we're gonna balance us out as best

we can. But he first comes out if well, all that matters here is that we will spend any amount to save every life. If you really did that, you would end up losing a lot more lives because you would you would destroy the entire system that's supposed to support the effort to fight against the virus. Right this is I know this gets into a bit of ethics and philosophical struggle, but we all need to be clearheaded about there are no perfect solutions here. There's nothing that's

going to keep everyone alive. There's nothing that's going to make the economy rure. We are going to have to be looking at this day by day, by the numbers, by the metrics, and make tough calls. But if we make them together, and if we're honest about what's going on, and we keep in mind our most fundamental human principles but also our view to the common good, the common welfare, We're going to come through this better than it feels

like we will right now. That is my hope. I do not make predictions right now, but I also think you need to be on the on the watch for demagogues who anyone who is promising you that we can go back to some degree of economic or a greater degree of economic normal without increased risk is wrong and they may be lying to you because the pandemic, this disease is not going away. Before we have a vaccine, it's not going away. So for the rest of this year,

this is what we're dealing with. This is where we are, but we'll fight and we'll get through. You're in the Freedom Hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. During our town hall today, you throughout a date where you think America can be working again, and that's Easter Sunday,

that's nineteen days from now. How did you come up. Well, it's nineteen days, but added another seven because we've been doing this now for seven so that spend the time we heard about seven time, well, yes, surround the time we close it up, so you could add seven to nine. Look, Easter is a very special day from me, and I see it's sort of been that timeline that I'm thinking about, and I say, wouldn't it be great to have all

of the churches full? You know, the churches aren't allowed essentially to have much of a congregation there, and most of them I watched on Sunday online and he was terrific, by the way, but orderline is never going to be like being there. So I think Easter Sunday and you'll have packed churches all over a country. I think would be a beautiful time. And it's just about the timeline that I think is right. It gives us more chance

to work on what we're doing. And I'm not sure that's going to be the day, but I would love to aim it right at Easter Sunday, so we're open for church service and services generally on Easter Sunday. That would be a beautiful thing, it would be. He's expressing hope he is not making a promise. Thanks for listening to The bus Essen Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on

Apple podcast, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. Unfortunately, even though we're facing an unprecedented situation that as us all concerned, look, I am concerned, I am not panicked. We will be okay. You know, you have to just steal your sense of calm and resolve and just know that we will endure and we are capable of amazing things, we the American people, We'll get through. But even in that environment where we're all so clear that there is

a need right now to stop the childish crap. I mean, I told you yesterday about the media trying to pile on to the President and say that because someone drank fish tank cleaner, which sounded like the thing the President mentioned, and he was completely right to mention it, they're using it right now in trials in New York City. I am praying, I am actually actively praying every day now

for that to work. Because even if it brings down let's say, mortality rates for those who are hospitalized by fifty percent and gets them out of the hospital, you know, fifty percent sooner That would miraculous right now, because it would do so much to relieve the strain on the hospital system, which I will be talking to you about

in just a moment. But it's frustrating because at this point in time, there are still those who are looking at things from the lens of what was true months ago about how we should approach one another, how we should deal with one another, what we should say about politics, what kind of gamesmanship another nonsense is acceptable? And I wasn't acceptable then, but I mean it's really unacceptable now. And you have a Biden superpack that's already on the

offensive against Trump. Now. I know there's a presidential election going on, but you know, while we're doing the fifteen days, you know, there are times when you put things aside. I remember back during the financial crisis, I didn't McCain stop campaigning for a week or two not Some people

thought that was grandstanding. But there's there's a legitimate case to be made in a situation like this, for sure, where there are quite literally thousands of lives at stake, that you can put this, you can put aside the petty partisan squabbles and move on to something else. But no, right here, in the middle of the fifteen days, we have to hear from Joe Biden and Joe Biden's Superpack, and here's what they have to say about the Trump

response to coronavirus Play seventeen. The crisis comes to every presidency. We don't blame them for that. What matters is how they handle him. Donald Trump didn't create the coronavirus, but he is the one who called hoax, who eliminated the Pandemic Response Team, and to let the virus spread unchecked across America. Crisis comes to every president, and this one failed.

That's just disgusting. It's not true, it's not right. The pandemic response to in the NSC was folded into another component and they streamlined the order of operations because the Obama administration doubled the size of the NSC from what it was. Traditionally it was usually around one hundred or two hundred Obama and so he got to four hundred people. That's huge. It's the size of Congress. And that's Remember,

it's not like the NSC is. The NSC is just an advisory body to the White House, to the President

on these matters. The president still has the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff still has, the seventeen agencies of the Intelligence Community still has, the NIA still has, the CDC still has more federal agencies FDA, more federal agencies than anybody can even name or remember, including people who work for the federal government, which I used to And they act like, oh, because they had a few people that they moved over into a different component within

the NSC. It's just pathetic. Does anyone really think that the National Security Council had a couple of people that will what were they going to do overrule the CDC say no, you can't make your own test. CDC, We're the NSC pandemic Response Team. This is ridiculous. Call it a hoax, that's a lie. So Joe Biden's ad is a lie. He did not call it a hoax. Trump did not say this disease is a hoax. He said.

The media trying to lie about Trump in his response, So really, and and saying that he called it a hoax, they are perpetuating the real hoax, which is the media's approach to this all along. And the great example yesterday of chloroquine phosphate, where all of a sudden. That's Trump's fault. You know, if someone says wash your hands, and I go and drink a whole bunch of dishwashing liquid because I think that that's going to make me even cleaner,

that's on me. That's not on the health experts that say wash your hands. But that Joe Biden ad is just indicative of the whole mindset right now, which is anything to get Trump is justified, and none of us really have to think about what's fair in our assessments of him, and how should we really be thinking about the way forward with this president. Instead we should be whining,

complaining it doesn't what he's doing. Meanwhile, Nancy Pelosi is holding the rescue, the two trillion dollars rescue package for the American people so they can pay their bills and buy groceries. She's holding that hostage. And now it seems that once again, the mythology of Nancy Pelosi's legislative brilliance a master legislator, I believe, as she once called herself, the mythology around that is entirely immediate creation. It's like RBG.

It's like Ruth Bader Ginsberg's unbelievable hardcore workouts. She's a little old lady who can barely move her arms and legs during most of the exercises she's doing. And I wish her good health and I hope everything is cool for her for a very long time. But I'm not impressed by her kettle bell swings. And it's really weird that the media pretends to be. But then this is a cult. They created the cult of RBG because she's now so essential to mostly the abortion industry in this country.

That's what they viview her as a big protection of that. And we'll talk about planned parenthood and Nancy Pelosi and how this all comes together, but it all comes full circle. But Nancy Pelosi's legislative brilliance, her tactical skill, that's all. That's all media creation. Nancy Pelosi approaches politics from the perspective of somebody who has no ethics and his cunning. You know that'll work in a lot of context. That'll

get you very far. It actually gets a lot of people in the media business very far, including some conservatives, by the way, But that's the way. You know that that doesn't mean that you're you should be admired for this, right do we really admire little Finger from Game of Thrones, By the way, that's great. That would be a great I may go back and rewatch that from the very beginning. That would soak up some quarantine time, that's for sure.

I tried to get into Battlestar Galactica. I might go back to it, because I know there's a people are so love that show, so devoted to it. I just think it's dated. I think the effects are kind of kind of cheesy, and I don't know. I couldn't get it. I know people love it and you can yell at me, and that's fine. But the thing I am. Oh, we'll

talk about shows later. See, my mind is already going there because, like you, I need respite from this, and so we will get to discussions with things and we'll bring in Salty Mark from the Penalty Box and it'll be good. But Biden's ad, let's refocus buck Biden's ad where he's talking about or where the announcer who inspires trust just by the tone of his voice, Well, that actually sounded a little bit like a creepy stalker or something. I got to do a better job of. I'm just

making you all feel comfortable here. Now it sound even creepier, sound like I look like the guy or a sound him looked like the guy who's in the background of the like the nineties, you know teen Slasher film, who's like he was like the captain of the football team. And then you know anyway, So the Biden ad is is definitely dishonest. And there's a real sense right now because people understand government doesn't matter. Who's in charge does matter.

This is a real thing. It's not oh, anybody, everyone does the exact same job. Usually that's true. It's in the crises that they have to address that we see what these because that's when their decisions matter. Their authority tends to be on the upswing tends to increase, and we're all paying attention and we all care. So in a crisis, every decision that a politician makes inherently is

more both more impactful and more memorable. Here is what we get from, for example, the Democrat answer to Donald Trump. They had twenty candidates. They could have put anybody up. They could have put Oprah up, they could have put the Rock up. They could you know, anybody, Tom Hanks, that would have been by the way, I think he's doing pretty well from the coronavirus. Tom Hanks would have

been formidable. Imay, look where we live in an air of celebrity and people being very likable and coming across that way is an incredibly powerful tool in a way that it wouldn't have been even one hundred years ago, because now you can reach everybody instantaneously. But they had all these options, they had all these opportunities to put forward someone who would make us all really feel like

we got this, and instead and put uside. Whether or not you think Trump is doing a good job, which I think solid now solid number sixty percent of Americans overall, I believe think he is doing a good job. According to Gallup, they offer up this guy instead play clip eleven. Please are you at all concerned? As Trump said that we cannot let the cure be worse than the problem itself.

We have to take care of the cure that will make the problem worse, no matter what, no matter what, we know what has to be done, we have to take care of the cure that will make the problem worse, no matter what, no matter what, I need a nap. I mean, this guy is not up for this. And they and the Democrats know it. But they're so orange man bad. They hate Trump so much that it just doesn't matter to them. Doesn't matter to them, They don't care.

They think that it's you know, anything, anything, anyone is better than Trump. And there's even a piece I think in the Atlantic right now it's you know, just stay healthy Biden, like just telling Joe Biden, we just need you to stay We need you to stay healthy. Doesn't even matter what you say, doesn't matter what your policies are. Just just be Joe Biden, and we'll take care of the rest. More or less. Here is uh, we got we got more Biden. Okay, So they're criticizing Trump. What's

he doing wrong? And I would note that Cuomo, who I think has been pretty fair to the administration, yesterday he had some tough words for administration. We had updates about that today. I watched the press conference and the administration's answers that I saw, Well, we'll get there. I gotta give you something that you know, we gotta hold some the information out, so you stay with me here, you don't bail. And uh star watching the most recent season of the Last Kingdom, I'm Utred son of outred.

So here's Joe Biden when he's asked about ppe personal protective equipment, when he's asked about what he would do differently than what Trump is doing. It's a perfect opportunity show us blue collar Joe, show us why you would be better than the president of the United States at handling this, And here is what he does. Play sixteen. If you were president, would you have enacted that? What would you be demanding of industry? I would have enacted a long time ago, Jake. I think it was three two,

three weeks ago. I pointed out that the presidents should enact us. It should have been enacted months ago. This is a position where we know what's coming. All you gotta do is look around the world. Every morning, I'm on the phone for about an hour and a half of all the health experts on my committee. Although people working with me, they have been pointing out, I wish you had the graphs here with you. You see him, the Spike and the US cases are going like this.

It's now surpassed for it would be if we continue on this path, would happened in Italy. Look, this is ridiculous to make the change like the governor said Governor Cuomo. What is he going to do with several hundreds or several thousand. He needs a great deal more. The whole country needs them. Who does that? What was that rambling mess? This idea that Democrats knew that months ago, that we should have been all hands on deck, and then this

is just fantasy land stuff. In fact, Democrats in January, we're dragging the country through a bad faith and just absolutely absurd and disgusting impeachment. That's what they were doing. That is what they were up to then. So to pretend that they cared so much about this is nonsense. And I can show you. We can sit here all day and the media, a lot of media experts, Oh, don't worry about coronavirus. Oh it's not. I mean from

the New York Times. I mean, I mean from a lot of the main outlets that you think of as the liberal the flagship liberal opinion makers. So this is just nonsense, and this is hindsight is twenty twenty. Yeah, Oh of course I knew, I saw, I knew this was going to be. Joe Biden just is full of it. But he's always been full of it. This guy's been running for president since the eighties, and this is astonishing. It's like somehow his mediocrity is just unstoppable, like he'll

never stop. I mean, he's obviously been stopped because he's lost a lot of efforts to be president in the past, but I mean his endurance seems to be the primary selling point that he has to be president. Endurance and longevity and politics. He's been around forever and he just keeps on coming. But if you're looking for somebody that has a good strategic mind or even strikes you as particularly bright, I don't think Joe Biden is your candidate. And I don't think Joe Biden was doing a better

job right now handling this crisis than Donald Trump. And people were saying otherwise, it's wishful thinking. You're in the freedom hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. That is really unfortunate. I would wish that that would stop, because we have a much bigger problem here than trying to point out differences. They're really fundamentally at the core when you look at things, there are not differences. The president has listened to what I have said and with

the other people on the task Force have said. When I've made recommendations. He's taken them, he's never counted over ridden me. The idea of just pitting one against the other is just not helpful. I wish that would stop, when we'd look ahead at the challenge we have to pull together to get over this thing. I don't think this is minor at all. You know, I criticized the media while we're in the midst of this pandemic, and

I think it's necessary too. I think it's necessary to put out the counter narrative to what they're doing to increase public awareness and with a public pressure on the bull crap that they're doing all the time. Here is doctor Fauci, who is the infectious disease expert at the whole country. Doctor Burke's and doctor Faucci watching every day

on TV. The expertise not just that they possess, but that they represent because they have teams of people that are looking at all this, crunching the numbers and bring decades and decades of experience in the field of epidemiology and risk management and disease disease outbreak management. He is telling people right now the media's crap needs to stop. He's saying it too, and he's not. He doesn't seem like I look if I yes, I don't think doctor

Faucci is a Republican. Okay, this is not a partisan thing. He's just like, stopped the games. Stop trying to create a rift between me and the commander in chief. He is saying it, don't forget it. What I'm telling you. Fauci is telling you too. So it's clearly true that they're being reckless and irresponsible at a time of maximum psychological, economic, and even physical vulnerability from the disease itself in this country.

The media is being irresponsible. They're disgrace, they're disgusting. And this is why I'm happy to see in the polls that at least Republicans trust the media to give them information about this. I think it's Republicans have an eighteen percent of Republicans believe I think the media is doing a good job and being fair and covering this. That's the poll that I saw today, And I think that's eighteen percent too high. But at least a vast majority

of us realized that, no, they haven't. They haven't decided to be more responsible. They haven't decided that they're going to do everything they can to put aside the games and the nonsense while the country is really in jeopardy, you know, if the nation right now, it's like we're all in the hospital and these morons in the media are showing up and saying, you know, hey, are you are you gonna have are you gonna have a party next month? You know? Or are you gonna go outside? Now?

It's like, shut up and let us do what is important. Media, bring facts or clothe your mouths. That's what they need to do right now. But they won't do it. The journals won't. I'm not even talking about the opinion people. I'm talking about the journalists. Thanks for listening to the Bus Sesson Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. The total package here comes to roughly six trillion dollars, two

trillion direct assistance, roughly four trillion in fellow reserve lending power. Again, it will be the largest main street financial package in the history of the United States. Liquidity and cash for families, small business, individuals, unemployed to keep this thing going. We're heading for a rough period, but it's only going to be weeks we think weeks and months, not going to be years, that's for sure, and hopefully pave the way

for continued economic recovery after this crisis. Team, just a quick correction. I think I said eight trillion in the last hour, but it is six trillion totals. Still a lot of money, Still quite a pretty penny producer, Mark, do we think we could fit six trillion dollars in your new apartment if we put it in cash? I don't even know, Probably not, maybe foods, in big bills. Yeah, I mean that's that's like, that's a lot of money. I remember the one time in my life that I

held and it wasn't my money. I held bags with very large sums of US cash in them for professional reasons, and I just remember thinking, Wow, money's heavy. Money gets heavy pretty fast. So six trillion dollars would be would be a lot of cash. That much is for sure. And that's what we're facing right now. Because we are friends Americans, countrymen, we are in a tough spot right now, there is no question. And as I go to air, we have not yet seen the passage of this massive,

the largest spending bill in history. I mean, this is in dollar figures the biggest act of Congress of of all. I mean, this would be the biggest congressional action ever. So that that puts it into that puts it into perspective pretty quickly. I mean, I remember the sense of this guy is falling back in the financial crisis of two thousand and eight, and now we realize, wow, that was actually not that bad. You know, we were able to deal with that one pretty quickly. The bounce back

came relatively fast. So this is going to be as we all know. There's the stakes are higher and this is a more challenging situation. And you know, sure enough, this is the test we all knew it would come. It comes with every presidency, right This is the test of the Trump presidency right now. And I think the President so far is doing a good job. I cannot say it is perfect. There are areas of criticism that

are legitimate, but I think the president is overall. I mean, I certainly put myself in that sixty percent that says that he has been handling this well. And I am pleased with the approach that the White House has taken so far. I am not pleased with the bull that the Democrats Today's a day when I kind of wish I could drop some drop some salty language on the air, but I can't. I'm not happy with the Nancy Pelosi Shenanigans, the malarkey of Pelosi, that is for sure, and these

other Democrats who were going along with her. He mean, here's what we know about what this bill that supposedly is agreed upon, and so it's only a matter of time before they actually, you know, before this actually gets dispersed. It's one hundred and thirty billion dollars for hospitals, one hundred and fifty billion dollars for state and local government, three hundred and fifty billion dollars for small businesses, four months of unemployment insurance, twelve hundred dollars for adults, and

five hundred dollars per child in direct cash payments. No, the payroll tax holiday, I get do we call it a holiday? I mean removing the payroll tax for a period of time. I think it's only going for employers and not for individuals. That's add they should have had

it that. That just means anyway, that doesn't work. You got to do it for both or else the employer is just gonna end up taking it out of the individuals pay They won't take it out of their paycheck in the same way, but they pass on this cost to their employees. So or rather sorry, you won't get the benefit for the being an employee that you would if they had limited at both ends. I actually did

that in reverse, at least I didn't think that. What was the number again that MSNBC host and Brian Williams, Gosh, Bloomberg spent five hundred million dollars, he could give a

million dollars to every American. That's amazing. Nope. I do think it's also fair to ask Bloomberg will end up having spent almost a billion dollars on his campaign, and he has after promising to employ people who work in the campaign until the fall, even if even if it doesn't the camp pain obviously is over now they're not doing that. He's not keeping his word. That seems kind

of gross. I also think it's worth noting that the Bloomberg camp, well, Bloomberg himself could really step up here and help out a lot of people in a lot of ways. I'm not saying he hasn't it. I might have missed something, but I haven't seen it yet. You're going to spend five hundred million dollars plus on your vanity. President. Look, he's allowed to do what he wants to do. I'm

not saying that this is a compulsory thing. But if I were worth sixty billion dollars right now, I would just be thinking I would be spending as much time as I had waking hours. How do I help people that are getting hurt by this right now? What can I do? Because there's a lot When you're worth billions and billions of dollars, there's a lot you can do to help out your community, a lot you can do

to assist instead. Bloomberg News, for example, feels more and more like the propaganda wing of the Chinese Communist Party, which is a complete disgrace. I'll talk more about China later on. The Bloomberg is particularly bad in its coverage of all this stuff. But okay, so I told you what's what's in the bill, and there's a lot and we don't, you know, we got to read it to know what's in it. You know, the whole thing. You know how journalists tell you a thousand times a day

that the president lies a thousand times a day. This has become a it's really a tick. It's it's a compulsion. Journalists will say this when they have nothing else to say. Just Trump lies, Trump lies. It's and they run all these fact checks about how Trump slide, like fifteen thousand times or something, and then I look at them and fact quote, fact check after fact check. It's Trump saying, you know, I'm like the greatest or I'm the best. Not true. Trump is lying, he's not the best, Like

are you little idiot children in the media. All the answers, yes they are. But Pelosi, we all know what happened here. And I was talking about this in the last hour.

Pelosi is supposed to be the strategic genius. We all know what's happening, and she's not a strategic gene In fact, she's just at the point now where I think she's gotten sloppy because she knows the media and some of your like sloppy like chardonnay, no, I mean slop well, I mean sloppy like the media covers for her so quickly and so completely that she doesn't have to she doesn't get held responsible for her mistakes, for her overreach, for the things that she does, and so this is

one of those moments where she would have been better off if the media wasn't completely a bunch of lapdogs for her. No offense to Lula, You're great. She's the French bulldog right now in the apartment with me, is totally asleep because she needs at least fourteen hours of sleep a day. Apparently that's that's it. I exist to feed her and to lift her up onto things that she wants to sleep on that require too much effort

for her. That is why this human being exists. But the media or lapdogs for Nancy Pelosi, and that wasn't in her favor this time around because she went too far. And now she's trying to claim claim this on TV. I wonder how many fact checks will be run on this. I wonder how many journals will express their outrage at the praisingness. I mean, this is some there's lying and then they're lying. I mean, this is some next level stuff. Play clip too well. I'm not going to negotiate on TV,

but the I want to have a unanimous consent. I want us to be able to go forward. And you know it's not a bill I would have written in terms of some things that relate to family medical leads that relate to worker protections, that ruling on worker protections. But we that can be done administratively. We can find other ways. Not enough money for elections, etc. At this time, all of everything we're suggesting just relates to COVID nineteen.

It's not about making law for the future. It's about COVID, well except fighting COVID nineteen. It's for the future. But I mean, it's not changing policy except as it applies here. So again, many of the vote, many of the provisions in there have been greatly huh, everything in that bill. And Nancy, but you heard her. Everything in that bill, she claims relates to COVID nineteen, her version of the bill, the eleven hundred and ninety two page bill that she

showed up at the last minute. And Chuck Schumer snapped to attention with the rest of the Senate Democrats and said, Nope, no cloture vote, no movement on this bill. We're going to waste more time. People are rightly very concerned about paying their bills, buying their groceries. No money in the bank, what are you doing. There's no money in the bank.

People would say, all, use your credit card. What if you don't have a credit card arena, you think you're gonna get one right now, it might be a bit of a bit of a challenge you never have one before. What if you don't have a checking hand. What if you're somebody who just lives from cash paycheck to cash paycheck, as many Americans do. What exactly are they offering you? What is going on here? Why are we waiting? Why

the delay? Pelosi says, it's all COVID nineteen related. That would mean you'd have to think that carbon emissions from an airline industry that's about to go bankrupt, that's about COVID nineteen making sure that they're offsetting their carbon emissions. That corporate diversity on boards or diversity on corporate boards is about COVID nineteen, same day voting, ballot harvesting, mail in voting, All these different just a wish list of liberal stuff. And then there's also the reporting that I

don't think we'll ever get fully. I don't think we'll ever hear the full scope of these negotiations, but that one of the snags here was that they wanted small business funding. This was reported small business funding for planned parenthood, planned paranone has to be part of this has to be saved by the government, which just goes to show

you that. I mean, the way that Theocratic Party treats planned parenthood, it's it's as though it's a branch of the Planned parenthood is a branch of the government as established in the Constitution. I mean, they're they're delusional about not just the right to abortion existing in the Constitution, but that there's some edifice of the abortion industry that is essential to our republic. I mean, they really do

think this. They think that it's a symbol that planned parenthood and the abortion lobby are a symbol of liberation, women's equality, freedom, all all these different It's just obtuse and it's it's disgusting. But here we are seeing exactly where their priorities lie at this point in time. I would also note that planned parenthood in I think in Pennsylvania at this point might be happening in other places too.

They always tell you why when they catch a little too much heat and people say, wait a second, will you guys, really will plan parenthood really do an abortion at you know, seven or eight months? Will they really

do that. Whenever they catch too much heat because the public actually figures out what's going on, they like to fall back on this claim that abortion is only three percent of what we do, only three percent, and then we would say, well, if they'd cut out that three percent, they should be Yeah, everyone thinks that women should get mamograms and be funded for actual healthcare. So there's no problem though the three percent is the problem politically speaking,

morally ethically speaking. So they've decided, do you know what the only services that Planned Parenthood in Pennsylvania is going to be offering during this shutdown. The only service not not cancer screenings, not in which they don't even they refer people out for this stuff anyway. But no, not you know, STD screening or anything that that is health related, none of that. No, no no, no. The only service they're going to continue to do is abortion. And they are

being declared because there a medical facility. They are claiming the exemption that all their businesses have. So they're getting loans as a small business as as that's what the Democrats want. They want Planned Parenter to get federal dollars to make sure that they keep their staff and keep everything going and they're getting an exemption as a healthcare provider when they're not going to be providing healthcare. They're

only going to be providing abortions. I know that we have a lot of things to focus on right now, but this is the the decrepit and feted soul of the Democratic Party on display for you, and they'll they'll never be able to justify this, They'll never be able to run forward. And at some point in the future. I've said it many times before, the two great moral stains on this country's history, the two great moral stains on this nation, and that we're still the greatest nation

in the history of the world. And you know, I love America as much as anybody. But our two great stains will be slavery in an abortion. That is reality. But I know we have to focus more on what this bill is going to do and who it's going to help and who it's not going to help. So let me get well before I dive into that, because I have very big concerns. Do you think that Pelosi

is going to be hectored by journalists over this? Do you think that they're going to chase her all around saying wait, it's all about how are windmills and solar panels related to COVID nineteen coronavirus? How is that that's what you claimed? And if it's all about it's all about coronavirus, why did you wait until the last minute to do this? We all know the answer. She's a liar. Nancy Pelosi is a liar. She's lying on a big

issue when people are in pain. This isn't a Trump lie about how Trump stakes were the best stakes I've ever had. I mean, maybe they were, who knows, I never tried one who cares. This is a big lie. This is a lie that matters. You think she'll get anybody calling rout on this one, Think, oh, the brave journals Cooper and Tapper and I don't know who else, I mean MSNBC. Do they even have journalists they even call themselves journalists over there anymore? I don't know what

they consider themselves. Think they're going to push her on this one, No, of course not. She's doing the left bidding and they all know it, so she'll just get a total pass. These people are disgraced. I mean, the American corporate media needs to be raised to the round and built anew with an entirely different ethos, with an entirely different approach. But that's a conversation that it will have to wait until we've saved the country and everything's okay.

We'll get back to it at some point. I promise you're in the freedom Heart. This is the Buck Sex and Show podcast. After days of intense discussions, the Senate has reached a bipartisan agreement on a historic relief package

for this pandemic. It will rush new resources onto the front lines of our nation's healthcare fight, and it will inject trillions of dollars of cash into the economy as fast as possible to help American workers, families, small businesses, and industries and make it through this disruption and emerge on the other side ready to soar. The bipartisan CHARISAC will squarely address each of the four big priorities that I laid out in my legislation at the beginning of

the process about a week ago. It will rush financials to Americans through direct checks to households from the middle class on down, and through a significant and creative expansion of unemployment insurance. During this emergency. It will deliver historic relief to main Street America through hundreds of billions of dollars in emergency loans, so more small businesses can survive

this and keep paying that worker. It will help secure our economic foundations and stabolize key national industries to prevent as many layoffs as possible. There's going to be a lot of good that this does, at least in the short term. And people. This is very interesting because we see here the government is the cause of I mean, the government has declares that cause the cause of the virus.

But the government has declared the shutdown. So we're obeying a government mandate to not work, to not make money, to not do what we would normally do. So it is a government responsibility to provide for people while that's going on, right That's the same way, you know, if the government detained you, it's the government's responsibility to feed you and take care of your medical care and anything else. You know, they'll get detain you and say sorry, you're

on your own now. So the government has told us a self quarantine, which is an effect a mass detention for a good reason. But they also need to help people keep the lights on and pay their bills. In the meantime, it's the right thing, but let's also remember it's a short term thing. There. The clock is ticking in every respect right now. We do not have and I think this is the this is the thinking on

this issue that I believe is dangerous. We do not have an open ended timeline in shutdown, and we do not have an unending checkbook with which we can deal with all of this. We were all ready and this is why the trillions and trillions of dollars and by that you look at the Obama administration and what was spent not just in the rescue from the financial crisis, but just what was spent for the all eight years.

You know, you had more addage to the national debt than I believe was added for it by every well, I don't want to say something that's numerically untrue, but it was certainly the most expensive presidency in the history of the country. That's that's for sure, in terms of in terms of overall dollars, more dollars spent for the eight years of the Obama administration than any other comparable period of time. You might say, well, what about World

War Two? If we adjust for inflation, I mean, there's some but they spent a lot of money under the Obama administration, a lot of money, a lot, and we spend too much money in the Bush administration and going back and back and back, and now the debt is out of control. The debt matters, folks. We need to keep that in mind because we could do a final straw situation here if we keep this check writing on for too long. Thanks for listening to The Bus Sesson

Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the iHeart Radio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. Most importantly, the federal government will pay your salary, your full salary for now four months. We had asked for four months, and four months looks like what we're going to get when we come to this agreement. It will mean two things.

Most of all, it will put money into the hands of those who need it so much because they've lost their jobs, as I said, through no fault of their own. So that is vitally important. And that will pump money into the economy, probably in a better way than anything else could do it. All right, let's assume that what they're doing right now, and there's a lot of ways that they could probably be better about this and I think that the limits from their twenty eighteen tax return

the limits on this. If it takes too long to get people the money, that's a problem. So this has to be now. They've got to get these checks out this week, which is why the delay is inexcusable from Pelosi and Schumer. The partisan bull that they pulled here, and we all know what they did, and it was too obvious, it was too clear even for the media to cover for Pelosi. What does that tell you they wanted to I mean the New York Times was, uh,

you know, the Democrats shut down the bill. It's Republicans fault. I mean, they tried, they did may It's not like they were too ethical for this, but they're like, Okay, even our readers are like, that's kind of that's kind of come on, come on, guys. There are limits. There are even for crazy Libs. There are limits for what they're willing to believe from their own left wing news organizations. So the the dollar amounts are that's an issue. I

don't mean just is it enough money for people? Depends on where you are, if you know, if you're living right now, I mean, well, we've got fantastic station out in Omaha, KFAB. If you're living in Omaha, you are going to be able to get a lot further on that twelve hundred dollars than you would listening out in

Los Angeles on KiB right. And if you're living in you know, the Albany area w g Y, you're probably going to have higher expenses than if you're living out in four Win Indiana on who Woo listening on WOWO. You know, so money doesn't go the same in terms of what your expenses are around the country. But they're not even they're not adjusting its state by state. They're just saying, look, this is the check that we're sending, and here's here's what we're going to do, and the

limits on this. I mean, if you made over ninety nine thousand dollars two years ago, that's there are a lot of assumptions baked into that. What if you've started a small business and you're two years into it. Anyway, it's clearly imperfect. So there's a lot of ways you can pull it apart. And everyone knows that. I'm not even sure how helpful it is because Okay, well, now here's where we are and there probably will be another round.

There'll be another series of bailout efforts and measures, because right now the consensus seems to be locked down. As long as we need that's what's important. And anybody who said anyone who says otherwise and is willing to accept any elevated risk whatsoever of this virus spreading, and remember, elevated risk could just be for people who aren't on lockdown and leave and work. This is what some have

been suggesting. Maybe if you're if you are out of a high risk cohort and you want to go into the office or you want to be more you know, you want to open up. But it's going to be very tricky because you know, for the service industry, for example, you need people to be able to congregate. So I understand that that's and that becomes very tricky. How do you draw those lines of what are you gonna do? But it's very likely there's going to be another round

of check writing from the federal government. And to people who say that's not a problem and that can't result in anything really bad, I would just respond with, Okay, why doesn't the government, I mean, just do this as a thought experiment. Why does the government limited to twelve hundred dollars you know, a person, and five hundred dollars a kid. Why why not just write everyone a check

for fifty grand? I mean, you could say a million, but I mean, I guess that's just everybody would realize how catastrophic that is, right, just because the numbers so high that what is a dollar worth at that point? Okay? Why not write everyone a check for maybe fifty grand? Let's say, why not write ever a check for five grand? Five thousand dollars in the federal government right now, it's not that much more than what they're already doing. Why not?

Why not five grand? Well, you realize, hold on a second, what ends up happening to the dollar and what happens to the treasury treasury bonds and to the role of the dollars a reserve currency. There are still these economic realities that exist. There are still these economic pressures that are out there, and they don't go away just because we're in the midst of a pandemic. They won't change, they won't shift just because we're in really rough shape

right now. Inflation doesn't care about a virus, right the collapse of the dollar doesn't care about the human suffering that's going on before or after the collapse. And if that's not a concern that I do need someone to explain, why are we being so stingy? Why not just write a check for ten grand to everybody. They're already saying they're writing for couples. It'll be what twenty four hundred? When I make a ten grand? Really help people out? Give them a few months, you know, to chill, don't

worry about it right well, because the numbers matter. The numbers matter because we have an economy that is built on, at some level, an understanding of the government's ability to back up its obligations. And this is true all over the world too, that people think the United States government is good for its obligations. If that perception dramatically changes, we are in for a seismic shift in the wealth and influence of this country. And that's what a lot

of us are trying to avoid. That is what people are looking at now and saying, hold on a minute, what are we what are we going to do here? If in two or three months we still haven't I want to talk about what the long term, longer term plan is, and we still haven't beaten this. The economy is still largely shut down. It's just to keep writing checks. When does that worry people? And I understand that there are some folks right now this is gaining a lot

of stay home. It doesn't matter. It doesn't No one cares about the economy, No one cares about the stock market. It's just all that. This is what you're hearing from people who think that they're smart and wise. Okay, then why not just have a lack of one? Why not

just accept we're being quarantined to the envor. Everybody somehow understands that quarantine like this to the end of the year would be catastrophic, and with that financial catastrophe would come untold misery, lack of access to routine medical care, lack of access to food, all the Everyone understands that. So if we know, and maybe some people don't, but they're just truly out of their minds. Although there are people like that, they're saying, we could just stay home.

You have to run the experiment through in your head. Okay, then why not just let everyone stay home all the time? Stick we can just stay like this? The government can you just keep writing checks? The government can just do whatever it wants. There are pressures here from the numbers. That's why there are interest rates, there are bondholders, there are obligations all across are inordinately I mean enormously complicated

financial system. And if you just say, well, the government's gonna just write checks for everybody and the amounts don't matter and the time duration doesn't matter, then you're begging for the absolute collapse of the American economy. That that's what you're really waiting for. It's going to happen, right then, we understand that, I hope. There are people right now who don't. And the moment you bring this up, they say,

you just want grandma to die. That's what they're yelling at you, which is a horrible, insidious and dumb thing to say to a person that's trying to think critically and honestly about how best to tackle this nightmare that the country's in. But it's gonna get it's gonna get

scary with the spending, it's gonna get scary. That's because people just they don't they don't want to believe that I want except and they don't want to make the hard decisions now about what is tolerable risk to the economy versus tolerable acceleration of risk from the growth in risk for the virus in certain parts of the country, certain populations at certain times. No one seems to be able to answer that or wants to answer that right now, and if you try, you get yelled at, which is

not good. You're in the freedom hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. But to everyone who has left New York over the last few days, because of the rate of the number of cases, you may have been exposed before you left New York. And I think, like Governor de Santos has put out today, everybody who was in New York should be self quarantining for the next fourteen days to ensure that the virus doesn't spread to others, no matter where they have gone, whether it's Florida, North Carolina,

or out to far reaches of Long Island. We are starting to see new cases across New across Long Island that suggests people have left the city. Yep, that's what's going on. People moving around spreads this. So those who ran for the country house, the cabin, the chateau, the relatives home, whatever it may be, might might have accidentally brought this into even more areas, which could stretch public

health systems even more. This is very concerning. You have hospital systems now, remember New York is overwhelmed, well will be overwhelmed based on the numbers that they're projecting. The hospital system here, which when we have huge hospitals, they are very advanced and they, as hospitals go, are well funded. I mean, I know something about the hospital system here, and there are other parts of the country where there is far lesser access to hospitals at all. Now there's

also less population density. So clearly, you know, you look at these things and try to assess what the risks are and where there's calls for real concern versus where we can manage things. But you're going to see the spread of this in a whole bunch of places all over the country that you hadn't really anticipated. They're being spread and this is why having a system in place.

You know, the CUOMO was talking this morning about moving effectively focusing in federal resources for the ventilators and the personal protective equipment in one place, which right now would be New York, with the understanding that as New York brings down the curve, you can then move it to the next place, which you could be. You might be in California, might be in Florida, might be in Louisiana,

might be in Texas. You know, we got to just see where it is and that's going to be logistically a challenge, but it is one way of dealing with this. You know, if you can move fifteen twenty thousand ventilators, if you can surge that to where it's needed quickly enough that maybe I'm just telling you what the Governor of New York was offering up today, a mobile surge

capacity for dealing with this. That will have to happen in many parts of the country or they'll have to figure something else out, because you are going to see smaller hospital systems are already reporting in that they're overwhelmed in places that you would not expect. Because if you get you know, thirty or forty people that need ventilators in a small hospital, that is way outside of what they usually expect from a flu season or anything else,

all of a sudden, now you've got a capacity problem. Now, I guess are moving people to other areas. And remember, whenever you're moving somebody who is suffering from COVID nineteen and especially either they're having trouble breathing, they clearly have the symptoms. They likely even if they have them in tested, know that this is what they're facing, and if you

move them, you risk spreading the disease a bit. So this is where we have to start getting creative with our solutions and finding ways to make sure we do the maximum possible. We also have to note that even you know, we get enough ventilators in place, that's necessary right, that gives people a fighting chance, but the ventilators are no guarantee, and the governor's been saying that too. It's not like you get on a ventilator and the fight

is likely to go your way. I think the odds are certainly in the favor of a person who gets on a ventilator soon enough, based on what we've seen so far. But there's still real cause for concern with this. I mean cause for concern is a dramatic understatement, but this is where the country is right now. We're trying to find a way to deal with this expected influx, and it is going to be it is happening. We are at the surge the surge is now. It is

going on. It's definitely going to be going on here in New York City where I'm brought casting to you from, and it will be in many other places across the country. Here's something that I don't think is getting enough attention now as we consider and this is everyone's involved in this, so everyone is. It is incumbent upon all of us, especially where a lot of us are stuck at home.

By the way, just also a shout out to truck drivers, longshoreman, you know, ups, postal service, you know, electric utility, water utility, sanitation. I think I might have said garbage disposal, but I know that's actually something that's under your sinc. But sanitation workers, people that pick up garbage and recycling for cities, for municipalities and counties. Thank you for doing what you are doing. You are appreciated every single day. We are we are

indebted to you for what you are doing. I know this is your job and a lot of you take particular pride in doing your job. At this point in time, I've been getting your messages about that, but we really do mean it, We really thank you for this every day out there. I know people that are scared. I know people that aren't in the high risk group who are kind of scared to leave their house in New York right now. They don't want to go outside. They

don't want to go outside. You can imagine going from building to building and having to take care of the city sanitation. But of course it's absolutely essential. And what would happen if in any US city all of a sudden we just had trash piling of everywhere. Not only would it be unsightly, it's a major health hazard at a time we're already dealing with the health crisis. So thank you all for what you're doing. And I don't know a lot of you listen to this show. And

also doctors, nurses, first responders, police fire. You know, you're holding society together right now. You are carrying the American Republic right now on your shoulders in a way that you know, usually is left to those who are serving the military overseas and military overseas still doing what they do, and I know there's been a surge in cases for them too. So these are the people those who are not able to just stay at home and telecommute, which

is necessary. You know, people have to keep doing their jobs too, and I'm not, by any means trying to minimize that. And everyone's making sacrifices different ways, but those who are still showing up for their jobs, thank you, especially those who are doing it on the security, safety and provision of essential resources side. You are keeping this place, You're keeping this country alive. I don't know. That's also where I wanted to get to. When do we think

that this becomes manageable where there's not risk? I believe it, there's ay, And this is what I've been trying to get at, and I think maybe I was a little a little early with some of this. People weren't ready to hear. It doesn't mean it's not true, but there will have to come a time and we say, all right, we're going to allow more people to go out of their homes and there will still be risk. There is no future in this year where there won't be risk.

Right unless someone develops a miracle cure, which no one thinks is going to happen. There's going to be risk leaving your home because we're not going to eradicate this disease. In fact, most experts believe that it will come back and that it will be cyclical and that it will be bouncing around the population and so it'll go down. And I think the warm weather is going to be very helpful, and I will talk about some causes for optimism coming up here. But when do we think it's

going to be safe to work again? There will be no point and serious people need to understand this. There's not going to be a point at which anytime soon, for months and months, at which you will not be accepting an increased risk to the population from this virus by going to work and engaging in more activity. And we also know that we can't just say locked into our homes for months and months and months. So this

is what we need to balance out. This is what society has to tackle, what our government and all of us have to figure out right now. We got to start establishing what the baseline is for that kind of activity and what acceptable rice will be because there is no future anytime soon in which there is no risk. Thanks for listening to The bus Essen Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever

you get your podcasts. I want to say we still have folks that aren't following the recommendations, and that ultimately hurts all of us. I'm about to do the update today of new cases, but I want to say, without identifying which one, we have a positive case today from

someone who attended a corona virus party. And this is the part where II, the person to tell everybody to be calm, have to remain call myself, because anyone who goes to something like this may think that they are indestructible, but it's someone else's loved one that they are going to hurt. We are battling for the health and even the lives of our parents and our grandparents. And don't be so callous as to intentionally go to something and

expose yourself to something that can kill other people. We ought to be much better than that. I gotta tell you, I didn't know that there was such a thing as a coronavirus party. Producer Mark, had you? Had you heard about this? No? But nothing shocks me anymore. It turns out that some of the spring Breakers who were down in Florida, who were like, yeah, yeah, and they can't

get carouny virus. You've read you it's like new bid. Yeah, some of them, the ones that there's a pretty famous photo now of them doing I don't I don't know if we're taking shots off the small of each other's backs. Do you know what I'm talking about. It's like a shot train or something like a body shot. Yeah, like they're taking body shots but off the like I don't know, I don't know. It's a family show, but they're on public. I mean they're clothed, but I just anyway, it turns

out one of them, I don't know which one. I don't think they're identifying, but one of them has come down with COVID nineteen. Now, so even on spring break where it's warm and everyone was drinking and partying, yeah, you can still there. I mean, there's a lot of things you can catch, but they caught COVID nineteen. And that's not a surprise to anybody that was looking at this saying what are you guys doing down there? And

they shut down the beaches. It's kind of a shame that they they shut things down when there are some people who comply and others who don't. Obviously, taking body shots is not complying, but there are some activities that are you know a little bit more in the Is this really like tennis is shut down now in DC, you're more than six feet away from somebody playing tennis against them. I don't know. That seems to me a little a little tough. Basketball shut down because you're going

to have close physical contact playing basketball. That's here in New York City. So there's only some sports, some activities that you're approved to do right now. And it turns out that in the gym in my building, everybody did return the equipment that they took, which is kind of funny to me because I thought about borrowing that equipment too. Because I'm just a man. Quarantine bod is going to

hit the buckster hard. Yeah, I'm gonna show up here in you know, a couple of months, like twenty or thirty pounds heavier with a shaved head because I'm just gonna get so sick. I can't do anything about the massive swoop. You know. I know these are dumb things. I've got friends who are complaining that they can't you know, I know ladies who say they can't get their nails done, and that's you know, annoying. I mean, these are these are the little petty things that we all know don't matter.

We're not really complaining about it. But if we're gonna have a little fun with our circumstance now in quarantine, you know, this is the stuff that you just gotta you gotta roll with somehow. You got to find a way to take care of yourself and in the new with new challenges. Um. I will say that I'm trying to keep my apartment as clean as I possibly can, recognizing that, but you spend so much time in it, I feel like it's easier for things to pile up

and get dirty. Plus I got a little dog running around here, though she's actually quite clean. I'm much messier. Human being is much messier than the canine in this in this context, but I don't have the luxury that's a producer Mark has, where he's able to just keep it buzzed. I do have clippers though, for the beard, So maybe maybe I just try, what do I Mark? Do it? If I put on the highest whatever it is, like a you know, probably an inch or an inch and a half guard on the clippers and I just

went after it, I probably could. My parents would would you know? People would be like, what are you thinking? But I probably could shave it down right, shave the head down if I would not shave it all the way, but like give like a like a crew cut, like a trim. Yeah, I mean you could. I don't know. It sounds like it's terrible idea, but you could. I mean, this is a terrible idea. But now I'm thinking, it's like, what if I live stream this just to attain people?

I mean it would be great content. Oh my god, it would be what do we have to change all the head shots? Like? How would that work? I know I'd look so ridiculous, but I can't look. You can't get there's no barbershops open. You can't get a haircut right now? It is you don't go to a barbershop. You go to a salon. I do not go to us salon. Excuse me, sir, I will have you it's more salon than barbershop. I'm sure this is a this is false. This is how much do you paid for

a haircut? Buck? Fifty bucks? Yeah, that's that's a salon if you really want to know. Actually, I go to a let's see a producer. Nick has thoughts on this too. What's what's he telling me? I go to a hair and makeup guy from the TV news business. Who can do it? Who does it right there while the news anchors are getting ready? That's actually so I got kind of a hook up with that, but the studios are all shut down, so I can't do that anymore. So

I technically don't even really. I used to go to a barber, though, a very well known barber on the Upper East Side of Manhattan. I will have you know where none of thos a yster Donald Trump used to get his haircut. He definitely goes to a salon um. I don't know who. I'd be curious though, who I look. I know this is folks. This is intentionally frivolous talk, because we can't just wallow in the in the you know, mounting tension and for some near despair right now. We've

got to think about other things too. Sometimes. Yeah, I don't know, you're gonna have a quarantine cut, quarantine cut, buck, at some point, I do think the beard going And for a lot of you right in, tell me what you're doing. I mean, I want to know what the folks are up to out there. Let me know if you're you're going to be doing your own haircut, if you're planning on making any changes. Um. I Also, I shared on Instagram, I'd made seared scallops in a brown

butter herb sauce. I used chive. I probably should have used tarragon. Tarragon's very good with the I like tarragon with seafood. Also, you know, pruser Mark, what's your favorite aromatic or herb? I don't say I have one buck who has a favorite. Let's work on that. For red meat, I'm a rosemary guy, so I think a little bit of finely chopped rosemary adds a very nice little little to a red meat. But well, what are the producer mark tips for staying staying happy, healthy, insane and quarantine?

What do you bring bring us into a day in the life or producer Mark out in NJA making sure that he stays safe and sound. I've gotten into a bit of a routine and I hate it. Like I'm waking up later than I normally would because I don't have to commute anywhere. So what's the point of getting up at the crack of dawn like I normally do? Then I wait for you to finally be ready after I get all the cuts. Yeah, then I do the

show that does take a lot of time. I do the show, watch some TV, maybe have some lunch, play some video games. My wife will get home, make some dinner, go to bed. What is what is missus Mark? What does missus Mark do? She manages an imaging center which is staying open. Right. I thought she's medical, she's in the medical provider community. She is what she what she's saying about what her colleagues and that she's you know,

doctor's office and stuff. What I'm just wondering if she have any kind of atmospherics about what's going on because there we're right here in New York City. I mean, luckily she isn't dealing with patients that are necessarily infected, but they are screening everybody before they come in, you know, since radiology is fairly important. If somebody needs, you know, a cat scan or something, they have to stay open. But if they have a fever or anything like that,

they have to go wait in their car. Then they'll get screened. It's a whole process that they're doing right now. And she has to wear a mask and gloves and all that stuff all day. So it's definitely interesting times for anyone in healthcare. And I mean I am thankful she's not clinical right now, not that I wouldn't want her to be if she wanted to be, But I mean, I just my heart goes out to all those people right now that are on the front lines, and my

sister law included. I know a lot of nurses and doctors, you know, I've spoken to I've spoken to some MD's in the last week. Who your friends of mine? I have a lot of her. I actually a friend number friends who went to medical school and now they're doctors in practice, and they they're worried. They're worried because they're Remember, it's all about exposure to you know, the the amount

of virus. I mean, this stuff is highly complicated and it actually isn't even really understood all that well, um by by science, um. But the amount of viral exposure, the duration of viral exposure, all these things can affect not just your whether or not you get infected, but perhaps even the severity of the infection. So, you know, people that are on the front lines as healthcare providers have to be super super careful, careful about all this stuff.

But I said, we're gonna we're gonna enter the the how to stay how to stay safe in saying in quarantine zone of the show instead of, you know, focusing on what can feel pretty bleak sometimes on the other side, do you guys, well, what was the show? You guys told me you both like that. I'm going to check it out. It was a manifest manifest. Oh, what do you think I would like it? I think you would. And I also did you like Breaking Bad? I loved Breaking Bad? Okay. I thought it might be the best

TV show of all time. Yes, So have you seen Ozark? I think I like those are a lot. I think it's kind of a poor man's Breaking Bad. That doesn't mean it's not. Well. It comes back Friday. That's why I'm mentioning it. Mentioning it. The new season comes out no way really, which is great timing. That is good. That is good timing. I'm gonna I'm gonna binge that this weekend for sure. Also, have you you haven't seen

The Last Kingdom? The Last Kingdom just came out with I think season four or maybe five, which is a great a great show about the Viking era era of expansion. So I got that one going. Does producer Mark have a book he's reading right now, producer Mark should be reading a lot more, but he's not. I was reading the Mitch Rap series before. H oh, that's the that's the movie with Tom Cruise in it, right, Yeah, but I read the book. I heard the movie stunk, so yeah, okay,

it was a pretty good It is pretty good. Yeah, I'm in the middle of it. Passed away recently, and I actually read a number of his books. I don't remember them at all, but I remember liking them. Was Clive Cussler, you know that guy is He writes these adventure kind of like adventure Tom Clancy novels. You know, it's somehow there's always like a navy seal who's traveling to the Sahara Desert or you know, undersea, you know, in the Marianna Trencher, you know whatever. Iver there's like

all this these very contrived situations. But I remember reading cloudcause he just passed away, I think maybe a month ago, but I remember reading his books and thinking they're pretty great. And now I would be a really good time to dig into some Tom Clancy, some of Michael Crichton's best Did you ever read Jurassic Park? I didn't. That's something

I would like to read though. That's a great book, like the Full you will and the book is better than the movie, which is usually true, right, but you'll appreciate the book even having seen the movie a bunch of times. The book is just way It's just an elevated level from what you have versus Yeah, but the movie was good, unlike Congo, which is another Michael Crichton book that I would recommend to people who are on quarantine lockdown right now. Congo is a great read. It's

cool for you know what it is. The movie is one of the worst movies I've ever seen in my life. Have you ever seen the Congo movie? I have not. It's amazing. People show up there killer there are these killer gorillas that are white with red eyes, so they're like they're like, uh, you know, like polar bear gorillas with red eyes that attack people and eat them and then they try to kill and then the good guys

figure out some laser based on a It's horrible. It's like the worst movie I've ever Just your description sounds terrible, yeah, And it's like the the effects are really cheesy. They have a person in a gorilla suit who's speaking using sign language. And like a little electronic. It's horrible. It's like, it's actually so bad that I think maybe it's worth watching, just so you could see how bad a movie with a pretty big budget can be. Why not just do

cgi gorillas like they do in The King Cono. It would have been way better. No, this was like late. This was like ninety five or ninety six, all right, so they they went with like people in gorilla costumes or gorilla suits or whatever, and uh yeah, it did not not really work out well. No, Crichton books are amazing. Clancy books are amazing. Clive Cussler um read Harry. I never got into a Who's Who's the Client, the Rainmaker, all that like lawyer thriller stuff. John Grisham, I never

read a John Grisham book. Maybe now is the time. I think my mother liked those back in the day. I don't remember them. Do you ever read a Stephen Kingwe No? I don't like horror that genre. Oh I mean I have that book. I didn't know if that would be something you would do, would give a try to. But yeah, I'm got I got plenty of books. But the problems I have to read so much about coronavirus these days that I feel like reading itself, I might

have to get a PlayStation four sent to me. I think, if we're gonna be a lockdown, my I have one already. My call of duty skills will become legendary. Just give it time. You're in the Freedom Hunt. This is the Buck Sex and Show podcast team. As I've been saying now more than ever, the connection that we have is just so necessary and so appreciated by me, and I hope you feel the same way. People are in quarantine. They're getting tired of watching the news all day. And

it's nice too. It's nice to give your eyes a rest. I find that that's really the case for me at least, and so listening to things it still allows you to cook dinner, clean up a little bit, do a little bit of admin work, or you know, I don't know, do a puzzle. Whatever you've got going on. Listening but not watching can give your eyes a little bit of a rest some time. So that's where that's my pitch

for podcasting. And if you have a friend who is in quarantine right now, which I mean a third of the country is in quarantine, please do say hey, you know just send them. You can send them the Buck Sexton Show in an email, a text message. It's on the Apple Store. It's in the Apple stores, we know under podcasts, also on the iHeartRadio app Spotify. Any of you who have Modify, you can not just listen to the show yourself, but you can just say hey, and

you share it with a friend of yours. So you you're the one spreading spreading the word about this show. And I greatly I mean it from the bottom of my heart. I really do appreciate it every day and it's it's an honor to have such an amazing audience as as I do. So all right with that, we'll get to a roll call Facebook dot com slash buck Sexton in case you didn't know, or our email address, and I would love and tell me, you know, bright roll call, you know, roll call first timer or roll

call I don't know. We'll think of something something cool for people that are you know, I guess first timers. That's the word that comes to mind. But I'd love to hear from some people that they haven't written in before and they're just saying, you know, and you can. Producer Mark loves the two or three line role call messages. Don't think that that's those are not welcome. I mean the slightly longer ones are fine too, But we love you know, three four lines. Hey, what's up? Here's my

question or here's my thought? You know shields High. That's great. It doesn't have to be a book that You're right. It could take you fifteen seconds to do this, but we'd love to hear from as many of you as possible, and we're gonna get to a lot of this. Also, I did another Facebook live yesterday, so if you want, that's on Facebook dot com slashbuck Sexton and you can join me on that whenever you like. I'll let you

know when we're into the next one. Depends on what Tallulah is up for, because she can be very very snooty about doing Facebook live. She's like, this is not a good angle for me. Where's my hair and makeup people? I'm her hair and makeup people. It's gotta make sure she's clean, all right. Joe, Hey, Buck love your show. Have recently added it to my daily podcast regimen. Yesterday you were thanking people who still show up to work and keep our country moving. As a proud postal employee

and a staunch conservative, A rare thing. I know. I would like to say, no thanks needed. I love my job of twenty six years and appreciate the living it has provided. All I would like to ask is when this is over it can people lay off the privatization talk. I think there are things that Post Office can do in these times of crisis, especially publicly held during nine to eleven and the anthrax crisis. People showed up to their job when we really didn't know how widespread of

an attack it was. And today we have people at window counters facing people every day that are at high risk. It seems like when times are good and no crisis were an easy punching bag for some shields high. Thank you for all you do, Joe, A very well made

and very appreciated point here. First of all, I know you're saying no thanks needed, but we are thanking you, and it would really add to everyone's anxiety and feelings of dread if they knew that they weren't able to get mail, or if mail was you know, dramatically delayed and you couldn't get bills, you couldn't get packages, and so people are so used. I do most of my personal shopping, i'd say I do. I'd dide my personal

shopping virtually going into a store. I'm talking a pre pandemic going into a store or something I rarely do. The only exception is for food and drug stores if I need something quickly. But other than that, I do I shop one. I get my books, I get my clothing, I get you know, anything I need for the home online. I really don't mess around with a lot of in person stuff. So that means that we need a delivery system, and that's the post office is a big part of that.

So thank you, sir for what you're doing. Thanks for listening to the Busts and Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. Doug Hello, buck Liar. Small businesses expected to cover their rental costs when the government shuts them down. It should be the property owners that seek relief from government and not small businesses making rent. Rent should be waived. My town has six landlords that own most of the downtown.

Why put the onus on the seventy five small businesses. The government has said that these properties are deemed on usable Doug, it's a I think it's an entirely fair point. I guess they're just taking the prospect of they're just going to get as much money to as many people as they can. But you know, but I see, I know that the property owners in some cases would say, look, we have very large you know, mortgage payments and service payments to meet, and if we just if no one

gives us rent, we're going to promise too. But the response to that would be, well, then the governments should step in at that level instead of at the small business level. But Doug, there's no perfect answers. There's no perfect solution. And I'm not saying that as like a you know, tomato tomato, you know, who cares. I'm just saying, you're right, that would seem to work too, and that might seem to be a better way to do all of this. But I don't have an answer for us

to why the government didn't take that approach. I'm sure they have their reasoning for this, but look, this is a desperate rescue package. This is not something that they've spent years figure out, and there are clearly clearly going to be shortcoming. There are shortcomings enter that that's baked

into this thing. So I hear you. I hear you on small businesses and the concern that small businesses have about making rent, and how that's not really seeming to be that reflected in this in this package, not as as immediately as perhaps it should. And this is what

I keep telling people also. Okay, so if you if your business is shut down and they give you some money to make payroll, if your business rent is I don't know, five thousand dollars a month, and when we're shut down for the next three months, you go back, You go back on. Okay, you've got employees, But where's that fifteen thousand dollars going to come from? Is there anybody really the Governm's going to write checks for all that too? I mean, you're going to start to get

your point here. Where is the government the economy or is the government administrating an economy that is the American people. We know that it's supposed to be the second thing, but increasingly it's going to look like the first thing. Chris Buck and producer Mark I've been listening to your show every day on iHeart podcast for the last several months and share it with anyone who I think will listen.

Thank you so much, Chris. We really appreciate that I just lost my job days ago because the small startup company I was working for is not positioned to make it through this kind of economy. I will be surprised if they still exist in two months. Say a prayer for me and my family, along with everyone else for that matter. I'm one of these folks that my twenty eighteen looked great, but I need something now, and I don't qualify as the aid is being distributed right now.

Shield time, brother, Chris, hearts go out to you, man. Absolutely, this is the circumstance that I've been concerned about. People that work for startups or small companies that are just barely making payroll as it is. They're going to go under because of this. And just because you had a pretty good twenty eighteen doesn't mean that you've got money to cover bills now. Chris, we hear you, man. Just hang in, you and your family. You hang in, keep

in touch with all of us. You know, if you can on social reach out, see if some members a Team Bucker in your area and they might have some ideas for jobs. You know, leverage this network. I mean people have got people have gotten jobs because of this show, people have gotten married because of this show. I mean, I know these things for a fact, so always think

about that. I mean, this is a you know, this is a community of people who are engaged in an activity every day that brings them up to speed on information and hopefully has some substantial entertainment value. But also other people that listen to this that's that's a commonality. It's the same reason why when people listen to this. When people know me from the TV that I do, which I do less now than I used to. I'm mostly focused on radio, but I still do TV. Sometimes

people know me from TV. Look, yeah, I know the guy from TV. If they're Team Buck. If they listen to the show every day, they see me, they know one want them to come up and talk to me. Well, now, assa, they can hug me. These days, we're not really hugging as much. But you guys would all be cleared for a hug if we weren't worried about a pandemic. But I can always tell the difference and someone it's excited

and they know instinctively. Yeah, if I see Bucks somewhere and I want to go up and talk to him. He'll be not only are you're welcome, I'll be happy. I'll be like, oh great, what's going on? Talk to me? You know that that always is, That's always the way I feel, And everyone who listens to this radio show knows. I'm just bringing that up because you know, if you find people in your area who listen to this show and you say, hey, can you guys help me out?

I just know there's a spirit of brotherhood, sisterhood, camaraderie, shared patriotism, shared decency that is so such a binding a binding agent for this audience that if you reach out to them and say, hey, this is a situation, somebody may really surprise you. Somebody may really be able to help. I know that, you know a lot of people listen to this show who are business owners, A lot of people who are very impressive in their fields or just have great rolodexes might be able to sist

you with any number of things. So I'm just putting that out there as an option right now, because I know we're all Also, because all virtual, right, you can't really go out and pound the pavement. You got to pound the keyboard so see if Team Buck can help out, you know, maybe post and post online to some other people that you know who are involved with the freedom hunt. Duke Hi Buck from New Zealand. Here, there are still fewer than one hundred and fifty cases of the wuhan virus.

As I'm writing this. We will be in lockdown as of midnight tonight. Most of the time, I do not agree with our current government. This time, I believe it is the correct path for our country. Lockdown here is everyone is in isolation and all businesses close except for essential ones. Keep up the good work well, Duke. I mean that just goes to show you New Zealand's on the other side of the world from America. Although Kiwis

are awesome people, kiwis Aussie's. I think my get along ratio with Kiwi's and Aussie's is like plus ninety percent in generals. Am I gonna say it's probably higher than Americans because of all the Libs that I have to deal with. I'm just saying kiwi an off season's politics. Yeah whatever, you know, I don't really care so at least the ones that I've met. Anyway, back to what you're saying here, Duke. Yeah, I think the lockdown situation, I don't see a way around it. At least in

the short term. You've got at least get your health capacity up in all these different countries to try to fight this. India is now increasingly on lockdown. India also has shut us off from our flow of chloroquin pharmaceuticals from them, folks. You know, for years and years a lot of pio. Trump was one of the biggest voices on this before he was president, warning about we need domestic manufacturing. This is a natural security issue. We need

access to we need you know, domestic energy. We can't rely on foreign partners for critical country and life sustaining needs. And now we are now we are in this situation that people who were making that case we're trying to raise to our attention. Sure enough, we got problems right because we don't have manufacturing. Now. Look, Bayer, I think down in I forget whether I think it's in one of the Carolinas, but Bayer's ramping up production of chloroquin.

There's some information today about you know, and I wanted to tell you about the good news, the good news, and I know that I forgot about that there's some indication from one study that chloroquin doesn't really do all that much, but it's not an official study, so who know, you know, we just don't know yet. So we're in a wait and see. We're in the official line right now for me to all of you is we are in wait and see on chloroquine, and we are hopeful

that's where we are. But on the good news side of things, the mutation of this virus seems to be pretty slow from what they're seeing, which means that a vaccine would be likely long lasting and effectively permanent if we get one. And also the warm weather is coming and it looks likely that that will that will help dampen the spread of the virus itself. And the Dow surge over two thousand points yesterday, which is good, but any stock market and move. Stock market moves are really

just a reflection of sentiment that day. I'm not sure that anybody could start to be too happy because the stock market could go down, you know, a thousand points, two thousand points tomorrow, as we all know. But those are all good, those are all good indicators, good things to look at at this point in time. Jeff Right, Hey, buck Trucker. Jeff here, listen to Monday's podcast. I want to tell you my wife's a nurse and she's off

right now. She had to have a surgery. But she's heard some of the other nurses complaining there that they want to stop going to work because there's not enough protective,

protective equipment for them. They're scared and mad. Yeah, Jeff, that's I'm hearing some of that too, where even medical medical providers are saying like, Okay, we're willing, we're willing to take some degree of risk, but we're not going to show up and treat COVID nineteen patients with no gloves, no masks, and no ventil ventilators to put them on. Even if we can figure it out, right, they you

need to give them the tools. The same thing. Look, if you have somebody in the military, they sign up and you say all right, you know, go go defeat the Nazis, and they say, all right, where's my rifle, and say, hey, you know the best you can. We're not giving out rifles this time. We don't have any. That's not how we do things here. If we're looking at this as a war analogy with a fight against

this virus. We got to give our frontline personnel the tools, the weapons, if you will, against this virus that they need. And that's where I mean. We're seeing American manufacturing right now ramp up. We've seen some of the great names of American industry and commerce, you know, general motors. For those of you that are big Tesla fans, Tesla sends that they're stepping up here. So there's a lot of people that are doing stuff right now to be as

helpful as I can. Ah, Mike, Mike Lindell, my pillow founder. I know Mike a little bit. They're making masks now, my pillows making masks, send them across the country. So people are really stepping up. Paul writes Buck the article by Professor John Ianitis was eye opening. We could probably go on with business as usual with a warning to the more susceptible folks about the risk. Voluntarily testing some people using a random sample method might be a good idea. We may be in a lot of trouble if we

don't get back to normal soon. On another note, how can we figure out if a governor has the authority to tell us to stay home? Thank you for your hard work, Paul. This is all very complicated, right, it's all very tough. What do we really think the number is for not just spread of the disease, but for mortality. No buddy really knows. Nobody really knows. We have a

lot of competing estimates. There's a piece in the Wall Street Journal from a couple of other Stanford medical researchers and people that know epidemiology very well, and they're saying that based on the data that we have, it is likely this according to wallstret Journal editorial, so you know, this is on the opinion pages, but they're saying that it is probably if you look at all the infections and then the number of people that have died from this,

it's probably orders of magnitude less lethal than what we were It already is orders less lethal than what we were told in the very beginning, which was three to five percent. That was scaring the crap out of people. Rightly, this is more looking like it's going to be one percent, point five percent something. Now, I remember point five would be five x the flu, so that's still high. But one percent is a lot better than five percent, and point five percents good bit better than one percent got

gotta focus on the math. I don't know. I mean, that's my sense is that we should be prepared in a few weeks. And this is what. This is what a lot of libs on the social media are getting angry at me for even suggesting in a few weeks we should probably try to lessen some of the business and commerce restrictions, but absolutely keep vulnerable populations sequestered home, you know, as safe as possible. Get them whatever assistance they need, pay whatever bills need to be paid for them.

The government's gonna have to break out the checkbook for that. But I just want the problem with waiting, and I'll say this, and I should have said it before. The problem waiting until it's clear to everybody that this is fine, this is economically unsustainable is when it's clear to everybody we're already in a depression and it's too late. That's what they don't get. You're in the hut. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. All right, more roll call

here with Katie kicking us off. Hey, Buck, I totally agree with you. When they said flattened the curve, I knew it would also widen the curve. This might keep facilities from being too crowded, but it never guarantees that people will not get the virus eventually. I don't understand the long term goal or plan. Yeah, this is the concern that a lot of us have if they mean, yeah, okay, I understand if you overwhelm the health facilities, you'll have

people dying in larger numbers because they can't get any care. Fine, So that's why I've said fifteen days. I get it. But we also need to understand that there is no total safety from this virus if we're interacting in society at all, and it's not possible to have no interaction in society and maintain are our economic people I say economic system, And there's this tendency to think stock Moore good four oh one K. This is what the Libs keep being. You know, people that are rich one to stay.

They're really rich. People have already gone to their private islands and they've already gone to their you know, you know, their hideaways, and they've stacked up enough food and they don't care at all. So this is the people that get hurt by a shutdown economy are not rich people.

This is a lie. This is what everyone needs to remember it's the people that are worth fifty one hundred million, a billion, ten billion, whatever it may be, people who are actually rich, not people who make one hundred thousand dollars a year. They're not rich. The people who are actually rich are going to be fine economically, assuming the dollar doesn't collapse and there's not a complete reset of

the economy that way. The people that are hurt are working people, those who are working paycheck to paycheck, and you need the money. In an imediate sense. Shutting down the economy is crushing them. It's not crushing you know, lib journals who worked for the Washington Post or the New York Times, or they're working from home. They're just you know, typing away in their computers, drinking soy. Latte's talking about how evil anybody is that wants to avoid

a depression, right, I mean that's they're fine with it. Yeah. I wonder what their attitude will be like when they go to Trader Joe's or Whole Foods and all of a sudden, not only there are no you know, Green Team matchup powder on the shelves, there's no milk, there's no bread, there's no food. Really, now you could say, Buck, that won't happen. Oh yeah, what goes on if if all of a sudden we have this continuation here and you have a true financial crisis, a credit crisis. What

happens if inflation kicks in? Does anyone think that the countries that have gone through economic nightmares were like, yeah, let's go, let's do that. That sounds like a good idea. No, it happened to them because of decisions that were made and once they realized that it was too late. But I don't know what's right now. Now we'll just we'll just all say lockdown. We'll all stay lockdown for a year. What could happen? We don't need to worry about anything, like,

we'll just stay lockdown for a year. This is this is kind of the left wing mentality that I'm seeing now, is if that won't have catastrophic consequences to life and to health. It's not about it's not about people's stock accounts. Not even I don't even care about people's stock accounts. All right, Joanne. I think we should treat the Wuhan virus and the economy the same way we were trained to do damage control in the Navy. The number one thing during a fire or flooding is to save the ship.

Of course, you try to get every sailor out of the spaces, but when it's time to dog down the hatches, it's over. Never had to experience that, only saw it in the movies. The economy is the ship, and we need to save it. No, I mean, Joanne, this is a point of view that the people are expressing, taking into account that we are already losing people this virus. We will continue to lose people from this virus. We

are mitigating risks from this virus. There's no zero there's no people are not going to die if only we give up the account. To me, it's people are dying. And how much risk are we willing to accept of additional death if we do more economic activity. I don't know. No one thinks of it this way, but that is what happens in the world all the time. That's what happens with driving, It's what happens with what pharmaceuticals you can take. It is all about balancing out risk. We

know one. The government does not promise anyone a zero risk existence, does not promise anyone zero risk. Do their health it can't, and so government policy can't be made on if it saves just one life, I mean, okay, it would save it would save just one life. If we banned all driving, it would save thousands of lives, actually tens of thousands of lives. Does anyone want to make that? Kay? The President said this. There's a reason he said it, and people go, oh no, it's illustrating

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