Ballistic Missile Melee

four four nine hundred to eight to five. The future of talk radio, Buck Sexton and the worst twenty minutes of my life. I thought that we are disappointed and angry that this happened. We do know that everyone on the island was affected in some way. Very frightening, traumatized, scared. I didn't know if if I was going to die a second or die in the the next five minutes. It was horrifying. I came across to our phones that there was a missile that was gonna hit, and nobody knew

what to do. I filled up fields of water, and I filled up the bathtub just so we would have water. I got caught in clothes on so that way, if there was hot air fire, it wouldn't melt my skin, and I sat in the bathtub that I made for myself and cried. I called my mom. She wouldn't let me hang up on the phone with her. She said, I want to be here just in case it happens. And it was really sad. A ballistic missile threat to Hawaii that was totally fake, false in error. Buck Sex

in here with you all. Thanks for joining me in the Freedom Hut. We have got much to discuss today, my friends. So this is what happened. That that was some reaction to a text message that got sent out two people in Hawaii by a state government agency. And here's what the message said. Emergency alert, ballistic missile threat inbound to Hawaii. Seek immediate shelter. This is not a drill. Now.

I'm not somebody who I think is prone to getting overly anxious or or scared or freaked out about the possibility of a terror attack or any number of things out there. I used to work in counter terrorism, and so if I saw something that I look like it was fake to me, I'd probably ignore it. This was an official message, and Hawaii, it is believed, is within missile range of North Korea nuclear range who knows, but certainly within missile range. And whatever we think we know

about North Korea could also be wrong. And if I had gotten this message, I would have been quite anxious about it, understandably, so I think anybody would be. Now people already are calling for greater accountability and saying we need to make sure this never happens again. I understand all that, and I agree this can't happen again, because let's just start with a one thing that I think

has not nearly gotten enough attention in the media. This happened in Hawaii, which is a relatively uh small state in terms of population, and it happened on a Saturday, and it didn't go out to everybody in the island, only some, and only one over some text message carriers, I forget which ones. And they tried to sound the alarm, literally sound alarms in Hawaii, and only some of them went off on the streets, you know, ambulance kind of alarm sounds, and so it could have been much more

of a panic than it even was. Imagine if this had happened for a moment, if you were in the state of well here in New York City or in Philadelphia, or in Dallas, or you know, you name it, where you might have had panic in densely packed civilian areas. It could have been at a at a football stadium. It could have been and and people could have been hurt, And the possibility of widespread panic turning into loss of

life is very very real. In fact, recently, when the wild five fires were burning in California, state authorities there chose not to send in at least one instance, a messages out because they weren't sure which direction the wildfire was going in. And they also didn't want to possibly tell people to evacuate only to put them in the path of a wildfire by trying to get out of a certain area. And they didn't want to further congest egress routes without knowing where the fire was going to burn.

So there are some complexities here. There are people who are paid at the state government level to try and handle this stuff so that we can all have some hope of getting out of a other of an otherwise life and death situation. But people are clearly upset about this TULSEI Gabbert, who it's among, Well, I was gonna say among my favorite Democrats. Why because I like her policies. She said, well, no, that's actually not really true. She's

just kind of charming in her own way. But she said the following about this, and our leaders have failed us. Donald Trump is taking too long, he's not taking this threat seriously, and there's no time to waste. We've got to get rid of this nuclear threat from North Korea. We've got to achieve peace. Not played politics, but achieve peace because this is literally life and death that is at stake for the people of Hawaii and the people of this country. So it's about getting peace with North Korea.

I mean, sure, we would like to achieve peace with North Korea, but North Korea is the problem. They're not us. And as much as getting a lecture from a Democrat rap out in Hawaii may make the left feel kind of, uh, kind of warm and fuzzy about all things, this isn't all that all that useful. Uh, this is not all that helpful. The media did manage quite quickly to tie Trump into this. I think there are a lot of people out there, and I don't want to be flip

about this. I think there are a lot of people He's going to be flip about it or happy that this at least didn't happen while President Trump, while watching was watching Fox and Friends, and instead it happened when he was out on the golf course and he was informed about this by by layers of advisors and such. Um. I think he's being flip about it. You know, I was not watching Fox and Friends. You could do that to anyone at any time. You all, oh, well, you know,

not just sitting there. You know, it's not like Bucks sitting there in his sweatpants eating chicken nuggets at one o'clock in the morning because he didn't make himself dinner because he was working on a history podcast blah blah blah, and yeah, that that could have happened. I did have chicken nuggets for dinner at one point this weekend. But Jake Tapper is out there saying, oh, it's a good thing Trump. Yeah, because let's focus on whether Trump is

the problem here or not. Um, how could this happen? You know, look, people ask me this. Look, you're working kind of terrorism at the A couple of friends asked me or counter terrorism at the m Y p D. I was like, look, I don't know, I don't know how the Hawaii Ballistic Incoming Ballistic Missile system warning works. I have no idea. I'm gonna lie, you know. I wish I knew about all these things. I wish I knew about some of the other government stuff that goes on.

But no, I have no idea how Hawaii system works. So I can't give you some inside analysis of whether or not Hawaii has a bad system other than the fact that clearly it's not a very good one. Here's what the Hawaiian Emergency Emergency Management spokesperson, I suppose, this is what Verne Miyagi is the gentleman. This is what he said about it. It's a human era. There is there is a screen that says are you Are you sure you want to do this? Okay? And I think

that's already in place. We had one person, human arrow, and that thing was was pushed anywhere, so they not only triggered the alert, they also pressed yes. Yes. There wasn't two steps process. There was a press yes in both situations. Now, I think it's fair to ask. I think it's fair to ask, uh, okay, if it was just a button, somebody could push the button. You know

you're not paying attention. You got your coffee, you know, you throw a little you know, non dairy coconut creamer in there, maybe a little Stevia if you're feeling fancy and you know, you knock it over and all of a sudden whoops in you you hit the button. But if you hit one button and then there's another button that you have to hit in order to make it

go mm hmm, a little strange. I can't go as far as to say that a person would intentionally do this because I really can't, off the off the top of my head, I can't think of why somebody would want to do this. I've seen a lot of outrage about how the government employee needs to be reassigned here, and I'm like, sorry, fired instead of reassigned. Re assigned not good enough. I always just want to note that, you know, that's not really the unless the person acted

with malfeasance or or true. Well, I think in competence is very likely here, but it doesn't really matter. It doesn't really matter if there's one person gets fired or not. It is very likely if the person did get fired that he or she might be able to sue and claim that the system was faulty in some way, and that would just be then a problem for the taxpayers to deal with. But something weird happened here, for sure. I woke up on Saturday. I was up. Yeah, I

keep talking about it. I make it sound like my weekend was interesting or actually, no, I guess I make it sound like it's even more boring than it was because I didn't do anything other than research and study and right. But Ms Molly's was on her way to Hawaii when this happened in the air in a plane, and I didn't I knew she was all right. I didn't know what exactly. You know, I don't check and see when her flight's gonna land. She just usually text

me to let me the flight was fine. So I don't know when she whether she had or if she was landing or anything else. Um. It's it's it's amazing that this thing, that this happened the way that it did. Look the good news is written as far I understand. Nobody was hurt. Clue, there's no ballistic missile. Yeah, but also nobody was hurt. Um, so that's good. Although people were terrified, there was an emotional distress that many of us would certainly feel, but it brings up the the

bigger issue there. There's there's two levels here. On one hand, there's the or on the one level, I'm mixing my metaphors here. There's two levels with one hand. Uh. On the one on the one you have the ineptitude the Hawaii state government with this system and they messed up big time. Uh. Wasn't it some years ago? I forget what happened? Wasn't there Uh? What administration was it? When

the plane was supposed to do a fly by? I guess it was Air Force one was supposed to fly by the Statue of Liberty and you know down lower Manhattan planes close to ground that everything was. It was it Obama, but I don't remember now, but there was a plane that that flew it was a government plane. I think it was Air Force one that flew too close to Uh. Um, let me know, guys, let me know. We got producer Mike in uh in the chair today,

so he's he's with us now. We've had some changes here in the Freedom Hut, which I'll also talk to you about later on. I want to get a chance. But yeah, producer Michael, let me know what the what the deal is with that. I'm pretty sure it was. I think I see. I don't want to say it was Obama because then it's like I'm blaming the Obama administration more than I already do for things. But I think it was that. I mean, they flew a plane close to Statue of Liberty, but it also frightened some

people because it was there, we go That's what I thought. Yeah, So Lower Manhattan was hit on nine eleven by two planes find close to skyscrapers, so they decided to fly Air Force one for a photo op very close to Statue of Liberty, which people that remember are people who remember what happened that day eleven. When you have a jumbo jet that's getting pretty close to to ground down there,

that that weirded some people out. Understandably, this is, you know, similar to that in terms of the ineptitude, the foolish decision making and all that. But then it also raised the issue of wow um. One of the reasons this was so frightening was that it's conceivable, right. One of the problems here is that if you were to get a message those of you listening to the show, uh, those of you who are listening to the show in

the Midwest. If you've got a message that you know China was invading, you might be like, well, I mean, I think they're gonna have I'm not sure they'd get here first, you know, I'm sure the Chinese invasion force is gonna have, you know, paratroopers over Omaha first. They

probably have to go to one of the coasts. There's there's other stuff that would happen that wouldn't concern you, But Hawaii a nuclear missile that's actually concerning because it could happen because it's within range and there's a belligerent power there. So we should talk a bit about this because there's a new era we have entered now of perhaps having to think again about the possibility of a conventional military strike, even a nuclear military strike against the homeland.

That's very different from where we have been psychologically as a country for a long time, for almost all of my adult life. We will get into that and much more after the break. What do you think about this Hawaii? Thank? Am I missing something? Is there a part of this, that part of this that I've left out that you

think is important here? Do you do you think of some of some of suggested that this could not have been a mistake, that maybe this was either a really dumb prank or or a sending some kind of a message. I don't know. I'm just wondering if you have you've got thoughts out there about this? Eight four to five, eight four buck. We have much more show coming up, my friends, So stay with me instant. The launches made, we know it, and then will very quickly make a

judgment about whether we're being threatened or not. And then a notified appropriate command, and it's that command that would marry up with local state emergency management centers. In this case, of course, there was no launch, and that emergency management center acted on their own without a military command advising them that they have detected the launch. Not only detected

a launch, but it's a threat to them. The emergency management center in Hawaii, they know full well that they should not be providing an alert to their citizens without the military command advising. And that's such a thing actually exists, and it's actually threatening to the people in Hawaii, and that did not happen. Jack Keene over Fox News saying how an actual missile launch would be, well, how we know about it? What would happen. What we would uh,

how how that chain of information would work. Oh, by the way, before producer Mike told me that it was Obama, he gave me the date too, but I just said, oh yeah, I forgot he wasn't on air. So but the point is that, yes, it was the Obama administration that flew a flue Air Force one too close to the Statue of Liberty, and it gave some people quite a jolt and lower Manhattan because it reminded them of what happened on eleven. Mike in uh Winston Salem, North

Carolina got some ideas about what happened. Mike. Good to have you. Hey, how are you doing tonight? I'm all right, thank you for calling. Thank you. Yeah, I'm I'm programmed PLCs and and things like that. And got a theory that may play into here. Um, there's a couple of problems that I'm hearing this was a training exercise, if I'm not mistaken where I've heard. And it's possible that whoever programmed this PLC or touch screen is what I'm

assuming it is. I don't think it's actually manual buttons anymore. My guess is that this was a PLC or PC that had a touch screen, and somebody hit the screen, and when it came up to do the next step, they did it, and from there in a training exercise. My assumption is that they wouldn't actually be able to trigger the alarms that would go into a another mode, and that was probably where the problem is going to

be found out. That's my opinion. Just feel like you're gonna see that this was a programming issue or an h m I issue human human machine interface was not connected correctly, or a procedure issue. I don't. I think they panicked the first time and tried to correct it so fast that they hit it again. That's just where I'm seeing right now. And and it's sad, But so do you so, Mike, You've got you look, I appreciate

your expertise here. You think that the individual who is responsible, who has been reassigned, maybe didn't mess up quite so much as people think in terms of how much responsibility is on him or her as opposed to the system. Right? Is it? Is? It? Is it your analysis that the system maybe here was part of the problem. The programming of the system. There there were some fail safes that were in place that did fall in there. What happened was I feel that the that what happened is the

is the programmer didn't follow through with his programming. They didn't check the system to see if this would happen, because, like I said, I feel I've heard that this is a training exercise, and a training exercise should never be allowed to go to the final point. It should show up on the screen or you should show up on the PLC or whatever that there that this can happen. But it's supposed to be locked out, so it can't happen.

So I don't thought this person not I'm not saying I'm not saying that the system isn't broke, but I think it's a programming issue as much as anything else. Right now, all right, Mike, thank you so much for the call. Good to have you an sir. All right, man, I appreciate thank you. Eight four N two five. You got any more thoughts? A little more just on the implications of living in a world where we actually have to be concerned about nuclear weapons aimed at us, because

that's new for us, isn't it, folks? That? And then the latest on the budget ceiling fight, and also Docca and some what's the other thing I'm leaving off here that I want to talk to you about. I'm forgetting what it was. Oh yeah, someone got uh well, it's kind of complicated. Let's just say that I'm gonna talk to you about Azizon. Sorry. Later in the show you'll see why they're right there. He's holding the line for America.

Buck Sexton his back understanding why North Korea has developed and is holding on so tightly to these nuclear weapons because they see it as the only deterrent against the

US coming in and overthrowing the regime there. So that exists as a result again of our decades long regime change war policies around the world, that North Korea is now in a position where Kim Jong un is saying, no way, I'm not going to give up these nuclear weapons because he doesn't see that credible message coming from the United States that we don't We're not interested in overthrowing your government. We're interested in removing this nuclear threat

from our country in the world. All right, I take it all back. That was representative from Hawaii, Tulsei Gabert and and everything she said was idiotic there, and she has no idea what she's talking about, And forget about me saying that she's a democrat. She's one of the democrats that I like more than other democrats. I take it, I take it all back. She's that was That was a terrible display of ignorance. There few things the idea

that North Korea has nukes because of us. The only way somebody could think that is if they have not even the faintest familiarity with the ideological origins of the North Korean state, with the Kim dynasty, with the functioning of North Korea, with the reason for that state's existence. No one could say that North Korea wants nukes because of us if they knew any of that other stuff. Because the truth is that North Korea wants to invade South Korea, and North Korea can prevent a US invasion

of South Korea. It doesn't need a nuclear deterrent for US to be uh stopped from going in Militarily, they can destroy most of for all of Seoul, South Korea very rapidly with conventional artillery. Plus North Korea has chemical and biological weapons. At least we think who knows, We don't. We don't really know what it has, but I'm sure it's got all kinds of nasty stuff. Plenty of reason to believe that North Korea has managed to hide away all kinds of w m D that aren't even the

nuclear variety. But this is a little guy. I understand for some people who are ignorant about foreign policy and how the world works, it's great to just find some tie in to blame Trump in this administration. But this phrases in a more serious way, putting aside Gabbard's nonsense. In a more serious way, it's worth noting, Uh, they're our concerns now about what the future looks like in the world that's going to have more states with nuclear weapons.

Here's what people don't want to say out loud, but most of the folks that I know who have some idea what they're talking about will will say at least offline or you know, away from microphones. Very likely that North Korea is going to get nuclear weapons that could hit anywhere in the world soon, and it is very unlikely that anyone's going to do anything about it. It is also likely that Iran will get nuclear weapons at

a more distant point in the future. Of the North Korea is completion of its ballistic and nuclear weapons programs, and I don't think anyone will do anything about Iran having it. And at that point you have major not just problems of dealing with the missile threat, but also non proliferation issues. And you know, what do we do within Iranian regime that wants to give Let's say the Assad regime in Syria which has still state in power.

You don't hear much about it these days, but what do we do if the Iranian get nukes and then sneak them nukes? And where does that stop? You know who else is gonna want to get it? And clearly, if the Irani's get nws societies, you're gonna want to get nukes. And at some point in the relatively near future, the Japanese may decide, you know what, North Korea is going to be pointing weapons that are capable of eradicating us, pointing them at us. Then we will have to do

something ourselves. We can't just count on the good word and good graces of the United States of America to back us up on that. These are very real concerns and we are entering a world where I think much more so than many are willing to say right now we're going to be relying on missile defense systems instead of no one else can have missiles other than who

already has them. The pace this the spread of information, including highly sensitive information, much of it pillaged via cyber means from places like the United States, but from all over the world's accelerating all the time. And nuclear weapons really are are a knowledge issue as much as the material one, and once they have the knowledge, there's really not much we can do about it to stop them

unless we're really going to threaten military action. Does anyone really believe that the Iranians have given up their quest for nukes? I don't think so, does anyone, Well maybe some former Obama administration officials, but does anybody with uh an i Q that reaches in the high two digits and above. I mean, this is really not overly complicated stuff when you try to look at it from a

realistic point of view. I mean, it's very complicated as an issue, But I'm saying, whether the Iranians want nukes or not, they want nukes, it's not that hard. They want nukes. North Korea wants nukes that can hit us, and the belligerent posture of North Korea. To take us back to what Miss Gabber, Representative Gabber said at the beginning of the segment, Now, the war like pose of North Korea is not our fault. It is really the only posed North Korea knows. It's the only one that

it has. It is all that it can offer. And when you have a state that doesn't have a second dear, if it doesn't have another speed, it doesn't have another path, it's just it exists to be a military force and and an absolutism, a dynasty that has a despotism. What are we really hoping it turns into regime change that would be such a blessing for the world. We're gonna give up the idea of regime change in North Korea. What's the point of what's the point of international relations?

You're just gonna sit around and say, yeah, sure, North Korea, you get to keep you, do you? North Korea keep being a prison camp above ground in a concentration camp below it. It's astonishing to see how many people in this country and elected office and positions of power would rather use North Korea as an opening or use this missile test debacle as an opening to criticize the president then to address very real problems that we face. I didn't ever have to do the I know many of

you listening did. I'm sure I never had to do the drill where we got under the desk. I've seen the videos of it, and I would note that, sure, depending on how close you were to a nuclear blast, being under the desk wouldn't really save you. But if you're at a certain distance, actually I believe the shock wave could possibly hit the building and maybe debris would fall. So hiding under the desk was not necessarily always as foolish as it looked, but it looked pretty foolish as

a means of trying to save people. And also, you look at a situation like Hawaii. If there were a ballistic missile with a nuclear warhead through an I CBM en route two North Korea, I mean, too uh Hawaii, and we hadn't stopped it in flight. What procedures do we really have in place? What would we do? I think the answer is that very few people would have the means, the ability, the lead time to get to a safe haven underground. A lot of people would die

so it's disturbing. It's disturbing. It's a reminder of why we need to take all of this so seriously. But it's disturbing that we don't have great answers to many of these questions right now. So the good news is there was no ballistic missile going toward Hawaii. And actually just got a text message a minutego from Miss Molly. She sent me a photo where she is. Hawaii is beautiful. Aloha Hawaii. It's a great state. Not great politicians or

judges out there, but a great state. And I'm gonna have to go back out there and check it out. Roll into a break here, we're gonna talk a bit about the fight that is just getting just getting rolling right now because it's a federal holiday, so the government's on a break. But the fight over Dacca and the debt ceiling this week, where do I think all of

that is going? Plus this the story about his zase On Sorry, who's an actor who's gotten caught up in the Me too movement in a way that we're we're going to work. We're gonna work through this. We're gonna talk with this together because I think we've seen yet an yet another instance of someone who is guilty based upon accusations in the eye of the public, and in this case it's worth even visiting. What are these accusations all about. I don't know how many of you know.

He's a very well known stand up comedian and he was in the show Parks and Wreck, which I like very much. Somebody wrote a just a a character assassination piece about the guy. I don't know if it's true or not, but it's it's meant to take him down how much I do know. We'll talk about that coming up in the next hour. So stay right there, team

be back. Honestly, I don't think you do want to make it feel I think they talked about God, but they don't want to help the daughter of people now looking to shake and said, it's not the builders, the kildre are Gilder. Well, listen, I think you have a lot of sticking points, but the roll down agraph taken points because we already you will. You can able to make a deal, but they don't want to. They don't want security as a border to get people pouring in.

They don't want superior as to border. They don't want to stop a drugs and they want to take money away from a military's thinking not to do don't throws to some of these change the other hurt. Did you see what various senators in the room set about my commence? They were a man we only didn't very complete. No, No, I'm not a racist. I had the least racist person. You have better figured that I can tell you. Are

you gonna make it feel miser President? I don't know that a shut down the should be because it there is a military dead. Do you think ability to make a deal and that your return and we're ready will get able to make a deal on doc But I don't think the Democrats want to make a dealt the poach from doctors. You know, the Democrats are the ones that aren't going to make a deal. Thank you everybody hearing yourself, Thank you Democrat version of a deal on DOCCA.

I'm sorry if if you had troublesom that audio was not great today. You know that was the best we could do, was out in whatever it was, out in the gallery or wherever it was. But the Democrat version of a deal on DOCCA goes something like this, Uh, give us DOCCA and then fund the government the end

and that's not a deal. This is gonna be very interesting because there's really no way, in my mind, there is no way that the Trump administration, there's no way that the Republicans can lose this argument over DOCCA if they stick to the script, if they stay on message, because I haven't heard anything that Democrats are willing to do to meet them, never mind halfway, just to do

something in response to what what they want. Right, they want DOCCA, and that's the way it's going to be, and then everything else has to get funded if the GOP goes along with this. By the way, we really have to start asking the question, what's the point of voting in a lot of these Republicans. Okay, sure they'll

the tax cuts. Tax cuts are good, that's all. That's all fine, But if unrestricted illegal immigration becomes the norm for this country, we're gonna have much bigger problems in the long run than just what the tax rate is. And by the way, I haven't given up yet on the notion of a flat tax, are a fair at tax. I'm not yet in a place where I'm just gonna say, yeah, you know, so I dropped the corporate rates, so everything's great now. Yeah, we still pay too much in taxes everybody.

The I R. S is still a monstrosity. It's still far too big, still far too powerful. So there's this DOCCA thing, and then there's also they're back and forth over the well, why don't I'll hold that? Actually they oh my gosh, did you hear what Trump's out over the weekend? Oh my gosh, Well, not over the weekend, but that's what they were saying over the weekend. Are It's so terrible. I I want to get to it, but I'm gonna hold off on that for right now. I think that we can stay on the issue of

DOCA in the dead ceilings. So here's my here's my prediction if I can make one. Uh well, actually, you know what, No, I'm not as certain this time. I was gonna say, they're just gonna kick the can down the road. There's not gonna be a shutdown. Maybe there will be a shutdown this time because Democrats aren't gonna budge a Republicans truly hold them to what the initial asks were from Trump, border security and to chain migration, uh funding for a wall, any of that stuff, particularly

those two chain migration a wall. Oh e verify should really be at the top of that list too. If Trump insists on that and the Republican Congress insists on it, guess what Democrats won't budge on it. They are absolutists on their quasi open borders policy. They're they are absolutists on amnesty and then on open borders. You know that they want people to have to stop and check in so that you know the government is more able to give them taxpayer provided services and register them to vote

for Democrat. But everyone gets to come in and stay right. No one should be prevented from going in the United States based on the Democrat view. But this is really going to force their hand. There's no way that we get past this point in the debate, in the discussion without no ing whether or not one Republicans are serious and to our Democrats just completely intransigent. Do they merely demand, even in the minority policy concessions from Republicans and get them.

And if that's the case, we should all sit around and ask ourselves why, why is that true? Why is that happening? So we will see if there's a shutdown, though this might be the first time that the X factor really comes into play the X factor being Trump. With Trump as the Republican Party leader in a shutdown center the reason why in the past, despite all the stuff, you know, Ted Cruise is really think I want to

have a shutdown. I mean, you know, despite all that stuff in the past, Uh, I mean I like I like Takers. I I was supportive of Ted Cruise. Here's a little story. I interviewed Ted Cruise when he was trying to I did a very nice profile of him when he was running in the Republican primary against Dewhurst in Texas. But I don't I don't really spend a lot of time chasing down politicians to be on on this show because I just I don't care all that much.

If they say something interesting, I'll use the sound bite on the show. But interviewing them, I feel like everyone's interviewing politicians all the time. I don't. I don't find it that worthwhile away for us to spend our time here. But yeah, I was with Ted Cruise really on. I did always think it was funny though, that some people figured out in time that Ted Cruise only had one

speed and it was Constitution. I love the Constitution. I was having my quarter Fleix yesterday, and it was as though George Washington and John Adams were right there with me with the Constitution. You know, he's very he's got one speed. He's a good guy, smart guy, but not a charming guy at the national political level. And that was one of his problems. Trump. Trump can fight, Trump

can charm. Trump has all kinds of speeds. And if this, and the reason this matters so much, is that the dead ceiling fight turns if it turns into a government shutdown, that is a public perception battle. Who's responsible for the shutdown? Or a better way of saying it is, why are we in this situation right now? Who gets blamed for the shutdown? And in the past it had always been

Republicans are gonna get blamed. Republicans are gonna get blamed if we go into a government shutdown scenario because Democrats say they want DOCCA and will give nothing in exchange. And Trump is out there banging the drum, so to speak, you know, making a lot of noise, making sure that

everyone understands what's going on here. Maybe Republicans will have some stiffened spines and realize that they're the majority party, right now they should be able to inact laws and policy, and it shouldn't be dictated to them by the Democrats who just get to sit there and say, now, I

don't want that, Noah, unacceptable, unacceptable. I would also note that DOCCA is a trojan horse for much of the rest of the Democrat amnesty and I have concerns about whether the Republicans should give into DACA in any way, shape or form. Here. I know that's a little intense for some people, but I could work through why that is for you curious eight four eight to five eight

four four nine buck our two is upon us. So if you're right back, he's back with you now, because when it comes to the fight for truth, the fuck never stops. Welcome to the Buck, Sex and Show, everybody. Welcome back to the Buck section show from any of you. So I was just talking about policy before. What should we do on immigration? What should be about DOCCA? I don't know why Republicans feel like they have to give in. Don't we have the majority in the House, the Senate,

doesn't Trump have the White House. Why why are we just talking about doing what the Democrats want? I am hoping that there will be a reckoning within the GOP and a reckoning for Democrats that they do not have to do with the other side tells them to. But you can see where Democrats are going with all this, the comments about a a whole. I keep saying craphole because I believe it was somebody was on air over

the weekend. I forget it was now who said who used the letter s and then also instad of that hole and then people said it sounded like something else, And so I'm not gonna pull the CNN here and just start cursing up the joint. That's not okay. Let's see an end love doing that last week. But they were talking about this all weekend and it was clearly something of a competition among the various pundits posing as journalists at CNN and be like, oh my gosh, I'll

get Trump saying this. It's the most it's the sadest thing. It's like these like these countries are amazing, and like every country is equally amazing, and like, you know, that's a good way to look. They add zeros, add zeros the contract. I'm sure you know they get they get a bigger check at the next negotiation for their contract if they they play the game just right over there, right, Trump is like, such a racist. I go home at

nine nine nightmares because it's such a racist. A lot of that, a lot of that going on over there, a lot of you know, the left is there's a lot of weeks week sauce. I'll just put it that with a lot of week sauce. You had John Berman. Hi, John Berman. He's over there and and he got a little he got a little feisty over this whole thing. He's a see the way, you're like, who's John Berman?

You don't have to know, but he works at CNN. So, Josh, I'm tempted to say that Republican Senators Perdue and Cotton are going on TV denying the comments were said, and they're hanging it on the difference between a blank hole and a blank house. One might reasonably ask, are you effing and kidding me? Well, I'm not going to to to get into that. There there you have it. Yeah, the Republicans are the ones that are are so great.

Trump is the one that's causing all the problems here because he said some some crappy countries are actually crappy. He didn't say that we we've made this distinction right away. He didn't say the people were crappy. Okay, that would be wrong. That's not that's not okay, that's not right. So the countries are and there are crappy countries, I said. I didn't hear many people making this argument. I think it's a good one. If I said North Korea was crappy,

no one's gonna say, oh, book, that's so racist. No, South Korea is great, right, I mean, it's not about Korean people or Asian people anything else. North Koreai is a bad country. In fact, I think the crappy country debate can. I think a great way to look at it is to look at the Korean peninsula. Right. It's about the country, not the people, not the way they look, not the ethnicity they're religious, back or anything else. We're just talking about the country here. North Korea very crappy.

South Korea great. Difference of government, difference of state. That's it. So it's not about being mean or nasty or undermining anyway or you know. I mean, I'm I'm from New York City, and I mean I would say there are parts of New York City that are crappy, A lot less crappy now than they used to be. But there are parts of the city they're crappy. I mean, I live here, I can say it was. What's the problem. There's some parts with that are wonderful. Right, it depends.

But a plane spoken and dare I say, blunt residency on issues that so many of us feel like we've had to dance around for such a long time is refreshing Trump. I have not met a single I said this. When I say met, I haven't spoken to a single Trump supporter who after those comments like, oh my gosh, that's too much for me, sir, how dare you now there's none of that. They're like, yeah, I mean, you know, maybe maybe be a little more cautious about what you

say in front of uh Durban. But Trump is saying, by the way, that Durban lied. Here's his tweet Senator Dicky Durbin, Oh, is that is that another nickname? Have we? Has he been dubbed? Has the has the derbs been dubbed Dicky Durban? Look at that. Senator Dicky Durbin totally misrepresented what was said at the Docka meeting. Trump tweeted deals can't get made when there is no trust Durban Ludaca and is hurting our military. So Trump is saying that it's not true. And then they got on this

fight over the specifics of the words. You know, they're not allowed to say on Thursday or Friday whenever it broke Democrats and not allowed to say, Oh my gosh, did you hear the words that he said? It was like so upsetting, like the words he used, like I was just like, oh my gosh, like I'm so sad. And then when Trump says, well, actually didn't use those words, they go, well, excuse me, mister, write and use those words. But it's not the words. Well is it the words

or not? Is it? Was it the profanity or the sentiment if it's a sentiment, if it's just criticizing the countries. There are countries that deserve criticism. They're also countries that are just in a very desperate situation because of stuff that's happened to the to the country. Right, I mean, natural disaster is different than say, you know, a bloody reign of narco terrorism or something. But you know, bad things happen in in good in good countries, bad things

happen to good people. The media freaking on this. It's just the divide between people that don't want to hear it anymore about how much the left hates Trump and the people who just want Trump hatre It just gets bigger and bigger all the time. I don't even want to have a conversation with some of these people out there in the media, particularly because I come across them, We're just like, oh gosh, Trump is the worst. It's just any day now. And I was like, any day now,

what any day now? What Trump's gonna He's gonna tweet something offensive? Oh No, maybe there should stop and just think it's possible Democrats leftist. It's possible that all that uh flowery rhetoric from the Obama administration, all of his uh pseudo intellectual prose about policy, was meaningless. Maybe it doesn't matter quite as much as so many seemed to think it does to have a president who sounds like he knows what's going on right. The perception of eloquence

is much less important than the reality of policy. Trump is giving us the reality of policy. I don't really care much about the tone. People can complain about it. Sure, I sometimes say I wish he would say things a little bit differently, but you know, I'm not expecting him to be perfect. He's not perfect. We know that it's far from it. But nobody would think that that was a fair gauge, a fair standard for what's going on here.

They just though they just hate this guy. By the way, you even had Alveda King come out on Fox News to say that it is outrageous who called Trump a racist?

What is so outrageous to call a man a racist who continues to acknowledge the significant work of Dr Martin Luther King Junior, Reverend Dr Martin Luther King Junior, my uncle in a positive way, and he puts his money where his mouth is, he puts his energy behind it and in making America great again, you know, perhaps saying that in Haiti and in Africa, so you know, Africa is a huge continent with many nations, that was no offense to the people, a lot of dignity to the people.

But the hell holes in that some of their own leaders in Africa and Haiti have have taken advantage of them and the area and done a disservice to the people. Yet they're all running around in the media saying Trump is such a racist. I can tell you one thing, Trump is not a racist. There are plenty of places where one could direct criticism of Trump personally or professional. Otherwise I'd say, well, you know, it's a that's a

fair critique. Trump is not a racist. And the more the media latches onto that as their primary method of pushing back against this this presidency, I think I don't know how much more trust they can lose, because I don't know if we trust them at all. But it is it is frustrating. It is frustrating, and you know, for the president to have say things like this, I'm not a racist, it's a shame that the media perpetuates

all this. It's a shame the TV journalists go on air and tell their viewers that the President United States is a racist, the President United States hates or thinks less of, or treats people differently because of the color of their skin. They have no evidence of this whatsoever. They just have statements that they don't like. They don't understand that many of us have rejected the culture of calling everything racist that we don't like that has existed

on the American left for so many years. That the hypersensitivity around issues of race has been counterproductive, and then we rejected. They don't accept any of this, the laft, the Democrats, the media, but we don't have to accept server of events either. It's a shame. The president should be able to focus on other things, but they would rather just continue to debate racism. All right, we'll take uh if you want to call in talk about what you think about DACA or Trump or anything else going

on in that world. Eight four four, eight to five. I've kind of talking about this as he's on, sorry thing because it ties right into the Me Too movement in a way that deserves some of our attention. And we'll have much more Buck, and we'll be right back fake news better running high because the Buck Sexton Show is back. Gary in Biloxi, Mississippi. Gary, welcome to the Freedom Hunt. Yes, but thank you for turking my call, buddy.

Thank you. I hope that they don't do anything but get these people from Daka out of here, because all that's nothing but a big fraud. And they've had a lot of people on t V that's explained who they are and why they're doing this. The other thing, Buck is I'm wanting to shout out to Jeff Sessions in Washington to do how about enforcing the law, because we are being flooded the Southeastern states with the illegals and the body they bringing everybody with them, everybody, but there's

never any enforcement. I mean, I don't care how many people you speak to. Nobody ever sees nobody being checked out, nobody's going through their house, nobody's checked I mean, you you know who they are. And just like, for example, in walmarts, I mean you can talk to some of the employees there, man, and it's just it's just crazy. I mean, where where's all these people? And so finally one of the one of the employees there said that

they think there's gonna be an amnesty. Well they they're right in thinking that, because that's what Democrats are promising everybody. Well yes, but I mean you know there's nothing being done, no bucks what I'm saying, Oh of course, Well there's no political will Gary from for the no political will for the Democrats, in fact, the opposite of it, to enforce the law. And let's be very clear, there are a lot of Republicans are not just okay with the

status quo. They really secretly favorite. You know, they like they like the inexpensive labor. It's good for corporate interests, good for the donor class, and that's a big problem. Doesn't get much attention. That's my other point book. Paul Ryan should be run out of town and all his buddies, his close buddies, like the guy that hangs with him, all of tame. They're not Republicans, they're not conservatives. They're just a ryhano I would say. The communists. Really, they're

coming there. There's a lot of rhine. I can accept. Commune. Maybe a little far there, Gary, but I know where I think I know where your heart is on this one. But he needs to go. He needs to gool man. I mean, people should realize that. I've heard some people, intelligent people, talking to some of these other people on the on their shows, and they got Ryan picked out too. They know what he is. He's a fraud and a phony. Well he's on immigration, Gary, And thank you so much

for your calling from Missisippi. I appreciated my friend on immigration. Ryan's terrible. He takes this point of view. I've been exposed to it from friends of mine who are from the more libertarian side. Uh. He takes this point of view that if you just bring in more and more labor, there's more productivity GDP growth and it's good for everybody. But if that were the case, why have any immigration laws.

You know, you can just reason your way through why you're or how and why you're being lied to about immigration all the time. If I'm restricting And there are people the Cato Institute, for example, it's a libertarian think tank in DC. Uh, there's one guy forget his name, He goes on TV sometimes and it's just he's a hardliner on open borders and he's a libertarian. And I would say, oh, but you know, the more people we

take in, the better it is for the economy. And you say to yourself, hold on a second, we're twenty We're twenty in debt, mostly because of obligation sens to seniors. Right. That's the biggest single driver of the dead is entitlements.

And the unfortunate truth is that a lot of people are going to take out about twice what they paid into medicare over the course of their life once they are eligible for medicare, which means you're getting more money than you gave, which means somebody else is going to have to pay for the money. Right, somebody else has got to pick up those expenses. How is bringing in people who are even less productive and less likely to be net contributors to society? How is that going to

help this situation? So you can't tell me that open borders is a good thing and the welfare state can stay as is. You can't tell me that open borders is a good thing and the entitlement state that we have can stay. And this is what all the Paul Ryan's and the Cato that they never addressed this. And then there's an even and that's just on a purely

economic level. When you go to the more recent debate, it's about what is it due to a country when you reach a critical massive individuals who are there illegally or even legally, but just who are new immigrants in very large numbers from countries that are culturally quite desparate. You know, this kind of reminds me of the whole

crappy country conversation. I think that there are Democrats who will tell you that culturally the United Kingdom is, you know, people from the UK are not culturally more able to assimilate in the United States than say people from Somalia or people from North Korea or you know, name a country. They say, oh, no, no, no, you can't say that.

You can't say that their cultures aren't. Of course, that's nonsense, right, some cultures are more similar to ours than others when you take in large numbers of immigrants from cultures that not just are dissimilar, but that clash with ours. And yes, this is what Europe is dealing with with the large numbers of Muslim immigrants from war torn, in many cases, very poor, very violent countries. You know you're you're importing in large numbers people who are disproportionately going to have

certain attitudes, beliefs, and yes, problems. It doesn't mean everyone. It just means policy needs to be a function or you need to view policy in the aggregate based on the overall numbers. Right, we make laws not with the idea that each and every individual human being that maybe gets caught up in a certain law is a bad person. But look, we got we gotta make laws, we gotta have punishments. On balance, are some people going to get in trouble because they violate certain laws? Even though they

are otherwise good people. Yes, sure, but if our approach is just well, you know, everyone makes mistakes, there's no will, there's no desire to enforce the law. What are we left with as a country. And it's true of our borders, and it's true of our sense of self to whether we have a political culture that can be sustained. You know, you look at Canada for example, Hey Canada, what's up?

You look at Canada that they free speeches is dying in Canada and it's happening rapidly, free speech going away. How far is that from happening here? Once free speech goes, I would note, then anything, then anything is really up for grabs. Then they could push any number of things on you. So James in Newport News, Virginia, what's up, James? Hi? Um? I just wanted to call. I was for military and wasn't uncommon if you got a duty station that was not in a good place, like it was remote and

it was not a whole lot of services there. You know, you know, we would call. So I would ask you what do you think about? You would say it's an S whole or an A whole. I mean, it's that language has nothing to do as the people that live there. Um. It has totally to do with, uh, the situation about living here. And if anybody wants to argue that Somalia is a hard place, you know, I'm guess hiving an example having against Somalia is is not a bad place, a hard place to live in, um or a place

that you wouldn't want to live. I don't know how they can make that argument, but UM, I guess that's one thing I wanted and um to talk about. And then I guess the other was just you know, I think Trump needs to to speak more to these issues, uh around racism. First, his seven years old, right, I mean, uh, anyone ever called him a racist when he was you know, anywhere, know when he was working in media, when he was

in New York City and a very public figure. No one ever thought he was a racist until he ran as a Republican, right, like a New York Liberal is probably not a racist, particularly if he's in business. No, I doubt it. And I guess the other thing is, um, what he was trying to stay with this statement? What do you you know? They he needs to talk about his his plan for America and He's talked about trying to alleviate the poverty in the cities, and they're giving

those people opportunities just like other Americans. I'm with you, James, We've got to ruling to break though. Thank you, my friend. Team will be back with much more other shows. Just talk at you in the Freedom hund We have a mission. We fight for the truth in a team effort, and buck us back with our next play team. You know that four months now I've been warning about the inevitable excesses injustices and politicization of the me too movement. I

knew it would happen, and it is already happening. You had some very odious sexual predators who were thankfully outed and received at least some measure of justice, or perhaps they're they're victims, received some as a measure of justice by the public humiliation of individuals who clearly were acting and atrocious and maybe even a felony criminal fashion. But there are other people who have been in trouble, and you say, we'll wait a second, what exactly did they

do here? And the commentary around some of the very big cases of the me too movement has been troubling, not all of it, but some of it you'll hear things like, well, we we need to make sure that men don't ask women out in the workplace anymore. Is that is that the rule is that the world we want to live in now men can't lean in for a kiss without asking permission first. Is that the world that we're trying to construct, is that the America we think is best? I know you know that, of course not.

But Democrats don't necessarily understand that at all leftists. It's really more leftists than anything else. Democrats are leftists. But this is within uh, a contingent. This is a contingent of the Democrat party. And then this piece came out about a Zas on Sorry and Now I'm I'm familiar with his work. I've seen him as a stand up

comedian briefly on one of his specials. He was not funny, but he was very good in the show Parks and Recreation, which, for those who haven't seen it, you should watch it. It's really great, very well written, very funny, but started season two because they change some things. The first season is not good. It's like a bad version of the Office. The second season it really comes into its own as a show should just skip the first season. You don't need to see it. Go to season two. It's on Netflix.

Something else as he's on. Sorry, is already good in the show, so you know he's he's a pretty talented actor. He's a young guy. He's close to my age, and over the weekend a and he's I feel like, I don't know how many of you know him, but he's he's pretty famous, pretty well known, particularly and well among among media types. He's very well known. He wrote a book I think also was a bestseller about romance called Modern Romance, and it was an international bestseller, so or

whoever wrote it for him did a very good job. Anyway, A woman claimed in a piece over the weekend for what I believe is a feminist website called Babe, which is I guess there's a there's some I don't know why that that doesn't seem like what you would call a feminist website necessarily, but a feminist website called babe.

And this woman claimed that his easy. She's a young photographer twenty three years old, or she was twenty two at the time, Um, he was thirty something, and not that that doesn't it's just a detail, right, doesn't mean she's completely of age and she's an adult and everything's fine, right, But anyway, just trying to give you some of the context.

And she saw him and they I'm gonna skip because it's it was a tough read because she gives you every she changes her name, so it's an anonymous accusation in print against an actor where she walks you through every detail of what she says happened in this one night was supposed to be something of a well. Mr on Sarry. He was trying to make it an amorous evening, that's one way to say it. And so she met him and then they end up going out for dinner.

They exchanged phone numbers, you know, etcetera, etcetera. The night in question, she called it. The title of this piece, you wrotis I went a date with his ease. I'm sorry it turned into the worst night of my life. Now I'm thinking that, you know, well, wow, this must be really terrible. I'm expecting to read in here that disease I'm sorry, was uh yeah, slip something into her drink and she woke up with no clothing on. I mean, I'm I'm assuming I'm gonna read some truly horrible stuff.

And I, like a lot of other people, this piece one totally viral over the weekend, and I did take a short break from my crusades research for Shields High the podcast that I'm hoping all of you listening to the show will download on iTunes today, UH, to read this piece. And the woman walks through a whole series of events from the in in every detail, you know, whether it's all accurate or not, I'm just saying. She

goes into excruising detail. You know, he put his hand here, he touched me here, he said this to me then and he put me up on the counter, and then he tried to do X to me, and I tried and I and he goes through all this and at the end of it, it's clear that she's unhappy with the situation. But she says that that she had it took her wealth fair that she'd been sexually assaulted. And what's amazing to many people, and and finally you've had

something of a a backlash against this anonymous assault. What's amazing here is that this woman or this anonymous accusation of sexual assault, UH, from everything that was apparent in the article. Just didn't like what was going on, and I saw a woman in the Atlantic called this a form of revenge porn against disease on sorry, just meant to humiliate and degrade him. He never used force against her. When she said I don't want to do that, he said okay, and they went and put their clothing on

and sat on the couch. You know, the there's a difference between gross and criminal, or there's a difference between uh on gallant or you know, maybe even a little sleazy and being a predator. And this is a very important one that society needs to be clear on. Right. We need to have an understanding of it's not the same thing leaning in for a kiss and then if you don't get it, saying oh whatever, I don't want to kiss you anyway, that's a jerk thing to do.

It doesn't make you a rapist, right, we all understand this. Barry Weiss over the New York Times, in response to this piece, wrote this quote, I'm apparently the victim of sexual assault. And if if you're a sexually active woman in the twenty one century, chances are that you are too. That is what I learned from the expose a of disease on Sorry, published this weekend by the feminist website Babe, arguably the worst thing that has happened to the Me

Too movement since it began in October. It transforms what ought to be a movement for women's empowerment into an emblem for female helplessness. The victim in this three thousand words stories called Grace, not her real name, and her saga with Mr Ansarry began at a seventeen Emmy's after party. As recounted by Grace to the reporter Katie Way, she approached him, but he brushed her off at first. Then

they bonded over their vintage cameras, etcetera, etcetera. After arriving at his Tribeca apartment on the appointed evening, she was excited, having carefully chosen her outfit after consulting with friends. They exchanged small talk and drank wine. It was white, she said, I didn't get to choose and I prefer red, but it was white wine. Yes, we are apparently meant to read into the non consensual wine choice. There is a type of young So that's the quote from Barry Weiss,

who female editorial columns for the New York Times. There is a type of young millennial feminists out there now that has embraced this idea that men are a problem, and that men have to be curtailed, tamed, shamed, punished, and the men are the cause of so many of the problems in women's lives these days. Their minds have been poisoned. I mean, I've actually come across them before.

I've come across near peers of mind who are just so bitter towards men in general, not to one man, towards men, and blame many of their problems on those men or on men in general, And it just exudes from them. You're you're very aware of it all the time, and they have these feminist ideas and philosophies about how you know, rape is always is always an act of force, and and sexual all happens to everybody all the time, and men are all predators. You just have to give

them enough drinks before you see it. I mean, there's all this stuff. It comes out that they believe that campuses are so dangerous, there's a campus rape frenzy out there at all this it's not true. Statistics prove it's not true. My own lived reality on Compass Compass campus as a resident advisor who we call it resident counselor, who was very familiar with all the on campus statistics and cases and everything else we all knew about whenever

anything went bad. Stuff goes bad, but it was rare and if anyone knew about it, it was very severely punished. I mean, there are predators, it's just the difference between there are predators and or or whatever of all men are predators, and some women have been brainwashed into thinking this, particularly young women right now. I mean, the the feminists of the Hillary Clinton era have further polluted them lines of the elder millennial feminists that that I'm personally familiar with,

who are just hateful towards men. This whole I almost I hesitated to tell you to read this piece by his he on his ease, and not by on his ease. I'm sorry and this exchange because I feel like it almost makes the problem worse and that more people. This guy is just getting humiliated. And there's also something really grotesque about writing about a personal encounter like this that

was not criminal. This guy based on all of the based on everything that was written here in this article, he did nothing criminal and and honestly not even close. She got mad at him in a text message after this because she said that he did not understand her nonverbal cues. Well, what is that supposed to me? You're an adult, You're in an apartment with somebody who's sexually

interested in you. You are not incapacitated. She wasn't saying she couldn't consent because she was too drunk anything else. You can use your words. You could say I don't want to do this, you could say stop, you could say I'm leaving, and then you know the moment someone grabs your wrist and says, no, you're not anything else. Well, now we got a problem. Now we got a predator.

Now we've got to take action as a society. And you know, if you're a male that happens to be in the woman's life who has been assaulted in such a way, you know you may be taking action on your own. But up to that point, it's up to her. Meaning that you know, she's got to say no, I don't want to do that, I'm gonna leave, don't do that.

I'm not interested in that. She can't just sit there and let a guy do things that he wants to do and then say afterwards, you didn't read my nonverbal cues, you know, I would note that, yeah, there can be physical cues too. She didn't push him away, she didn't say no, She just kind of let him do stuff and then stopped him at one point, and when she said stop, he stopped. And she's accusing him in print of sexual assault and humiliating him by saying, you know,

embarrassing things that he said to her. You know, there's private stuff that everybody says to people in there, you know, yeah, what is it inflict? Rante de looked at whatever. I mean, people say things. This is uh, this is troubling. I mean, this is now. This is not turning into a a very destructive form of of political sport for some feminists and it needs to stop. And I look, I feel

I don't know as he's on. Sorry, I'm sure we would disagree on on everything pretty much based on what I have heard of his politics, and he might be he comes across like kind of a jerk in this article. I'm not saying he's not a jerk. I'm just saying to call him uh a effectively call him a rapist, which this article does or an attempted rapist, even though he didn't attempt to rape anything or anyone is this

is scary stuff. I mean, any guy, I gotta say, any young guy out there who's unmarried and out on the scene, you might want to read this and just be aware that this is not this mentality has now been aggravated. This this hyper feminist anti mail. You didn't read my nonverbal cues, so you're a rapist and I'm gonna publicly call you that or sexual assaulter. Now that's out there. Guys, you know you gotta be careful because they're getting the media running arounds like, oh yeah, that's right,

me too. Every women need to be believing. I mean, this is all happening. There's a mobilization here of a mob mentality, and a lot of innocent guys are going to get ruined by it too. And it's already happening. Yeah, a lot of bad ones have but a lot of innocent ones are going to as well. All right, I've got lines lit. We gotta take some calls. We'll be right back. Chuck in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Chuck, you're talking to Buck? Hey, Buck, how's it gone. It's good brother,

Thank you for calling in excellent. Say, could I make just one fast comment about the Hawaii situation? Yeah, you can make a medium link comment about it if you want a right Well, actually it can be done in one, well two words, I guess MAUI WOWI Oh what is that? Uh? That's one of those strains of high altitude pot that they grow over. Oh I was unaware of that we're dealing with. This could just be like there was a

movie apocalypse WAU or something like that. Uh, you know where people just made a lot of mistakes and whoops. I was high. That's a whoops apocalypse. There's what we're dealing with out there. But that's really not the main point. Okay, Yeah,

what is the main point? Chuck? Yeah, what I'd like to talk to you about it is something that's really been on my mind for quite some time, and that is we always talk about the founders not paying attention to are not being aware of machine guns in the second amendments out of step, But what they forget about is that I think that these guys really didn't foresee and couldn't have foreseen these info entertainment giants that have come on the scene that control so much of what

we see in both entertainment and news. And that's why, um, you make the point about I can't think of her name from Hawaii gets to come on air and say idiotic is because she's totally covered. She does not have to fear that under Spiek and some of these other guys that made these morning shows, she would have been that would have been a career ending statement. And likewise, on the uh, the immigration, we're not getting good information,

So how do we fight back? Well, an immigration you fight back by listening to this show is a good start. But also you would hope that the Republican Congress that we just elected the last in the last national election, we'll actually get some results this year. And that's the way it's supposed to work. There's only so much you and I Chuck can do. Right. We can learn about it, we can know about it, we can spread the word, but we don't actually have any power to change immigration

policy in this country. So we can hope that the Republican Congress gets it together. We can push them to do so. We can spread the word and the truth and that's what we do. But on immigration, it I am um, I am a skeptic about the GOP doing what needs to be done on immigration. But Chuck, thank you for calling in from Michigan. Very much appreciate hearing from your brother. Thank you. Yeah. I would like to say that I'm, you know what, cautiously optimistic or something

on immigration, but I just can't. I there are too many ways that it goes bad with with the GOP. Too many Republicans who just prefer, well, they prefer to say one thing when they have to get elected and then do another when it comes to casting their votes on immigration. And you know, it's isn't it isn't an astonishing that we're in a country that takes in a million, that that brings in a million legal permanent immigrants a

year or makes them permanent a year. We have a million new permanent residents of this country each year from outside of America, and we have to get lectures from arrow media about how we're xenophobic or because we want to get rid of the chain chain migration or the diversity lottery system, we're all bad people or something. It's it's a sign of the times. Unfortunately've lost it. We're gonna talk about currency and Currency Wars. In just a few moments here, let me ask you this question. We'll

set us up for what's coming up next. What would happen if China dumped all of our U S treasury bonds? So far, it has been a very strong year for the US economy, and many people are looking back on President Trump's first year in office and thinking that it's been excellent for markets, and for employment and for business. But what would happen if China decided that it wasn't going to keep buying US treasuries. That's a story that's been printed by numerous news outlets in the last week

or so. Hasving gotten that much attention, but it could be a really big deal. Well, to help us look at what it would mean, we've got New York Times bestselling author James Rickard's on the phone. He is the author of Currency Wars, The Making of the Next Global Crisis. James, Great to have you, Great to be with you, Buck, James, tell me what would happen? Let's just start with that before we get into more of the thesis of your of your book. What would happen if China decided to

stop buying US treasures? Well? At the March, and they're the largest fignholder of US Treasury's actually the print The people with the most treasuries are the US Federal Reserve. Sal print money. When they print money, they buy US treasury. So they've got about four trillion on their books, but China has over one trillion. So between the FED and China, you've got five trillion dollars of the total twenty trillion dollars of US national death. So China's huge player. At

the margin. It would tend to make interest rates go higher. That means every day Americans would pay more for their mortgages, credit card rates would go up, and we definitely have a slowing effect on the US economy. But when I saw that, I saw the same story you're referring to her obviously watched it closely. To me, it wasn't something

they were actually going to do anytime soon. It was more of a shot across the bottle warning to the Trump administration, don't mess with us on trade, because we can hit you back in the treasure market. So this is what the kind of financial warfare is all about. Tell me about what an actual currency war with China would look like, and how would it. How would it start first, Well, we actually have some experience with this.

In two thousand nine, I was asked by the Pentagon to help facilitate it was their first ever financial war game. As you know, war games are conducted all the time, but this was the first financial w Again, the only weapons are stocks, bonds, currencies, commodities, and derivatives. We did it at the Warfare Analysis Laboratory down in near Washington, the Applies Physics Lab. We have participation from you know, the Uniform Military, CIA, the Fed, the Treasury, a lot

of outside experts. We did it for two days, and in that scenario, China Russia teamed up to acquire gold, have a new gold back currency issued out of London, and basically run the dollar off the road. We got kind of laughed out at the time. A lot of people said, oh, that would never happen. But since then, since we did that with the Pentagon in two thousand nine, China and Russia have tripled their gold reserves. So things are actually playing out the way we told the Pentagon

at the time. But right now it could happen on a lot of fronts. It could happen with gold, it could happen with cryptocurrencies, that could happen with treasuries. China is very unlikely to dump their treasuries. That you know. The oldest joke in banking is, if I owe you a million dollars, I have a problem. But if I owe you a billion dollars, you have a problem because

you have to collect it from well. Right now, in the United States owes China a trillion dollars over a trillion dollars, So I would say China has the problem because the president with one phone call could freeze the Chinese treasuries if they ever did anything kind of on toward or disorderly in the treasury market. The president of the authority, with one phone call called the FED and the Treasury to freeze those securities. He wouldn't have fault

on them, and he would say that. The Chinese say, we'll keep paying interest, but we're just going to freeze them from now until you get back on your best behavior. So that's one way currency war financial work can play out. What is happening right now with our currency though, I mean a lot of people will be asking questions, like we're at twenty trillion in debt. There's been all this gamesmanship, all this stuff going on with the Fed and monetary policy.

But for most folks James, right now, it feels like everything's fine. How would things not go How would things all of a sudden not be fine when we're talking about US currency. Well, you know, but when you say gamesmanship by the by the central banks and the treasure, that's exactly the right word. They've been kind of manipulating things behind the scene. C Right, we say the economy is fine, I think what you really mean is that

the stock markets going up. Well, that's for sure, stock markets going up, I think about thirty since President Trump was elected. That feels good to a lot of people. Um, but you know, the economy is doing a little better, but not a lot better. Very skeptical of the impact of this the tax bill. But but the problem from the from the Chinese perspective, you know this, uh, this whole financial war is coming to a head. The President has been issuing to do something on the trade front.

Remember he said he was gonna, you know, tear up and after he has not done that, uh he um, you know, he said he was going to build a wall in Mexico that hasn't happened yet. So a lot of things that Trump has talked about that that he hasn't actually done. But one of the things he would like to do is hit China with some sanctions on steel, aluminum, and some other solar panels and some other things. The problem is the President needs China's help on North Korea.

So the reason the President has held off on the trade war with China is because we're looking for their help with North Korea and US so to you've been following closely, but China hasn't really done that much. They're they're talking a good game, but they haven't really done that much. Oil is still getting into the North Korea's still being smuggled in. They haven't really put the strangleholds in North Korea. So I think the president is getting

fed up with that. Trade Representative Lightheiser has been itching to put on sanctions WI over ross degree. So I think we'll see a trade war with China and then that we'll just kind of fight it out in the currency market. In in the bottom market, we're speaking to James Rickard's New York Times bestselling author of Currency Wars, The Making of the Next Global Crisis, James, I've got your book right in front of me here, and it certainly makes one thing that we could face a global

crisis when it comes to currency. How do you think that is most likely to happen. How would it happen? Well, see right now, because the dollar is getting a lot weaker, and we see that in the price of gold. Everyone says, you know, the price of gold has going up over a hundred dollars an ounced in the past few weeks. People go, oh, goals going up. By the way I think about it, goal, it's not really going up. What's happening is the dollar is going down. So you have

dollar the dollar price of goal is higher. But that's just like a symptom that the dollar is getting weaker. Believe it or not, The Fed wis are actually likes that. The reason is it increases the price of imports. It actually brings some inflation into the U. S. Economy. The Fed once inflation they've been they've spent five years trying to hit their target. They have not hit their target

of two percent inflation in five years. So the so the week dollar actually helps them to meet their target a little bit less and keep on track to to keep raising interest rates. But the problem is the inflation is mostly a psychological phenomena. It takes a long time to turn the ship, but once you do, inflation can spin out of control. We saw this in late nineteen seventies. So yeah, there hasn't been any inflation through all this money printing in the last eight years. But the reason

is that people have not had inflationary expectations. They're still kind of looking at their wounds. Found the melt down to two thousand and eight. But if that changes, it would be very hard for the FED to contain the change. It can change very quickly. Again, we saw that in the late seventies. So one of the things one of the dangers here is that the FED plays the weak currency game, fights the currency wars with a cheap dollar, and again we see that in the higher price of gold.

But then the inflation actually kicks in and expectations change, and then people start to dump dollars to buy you know, other hard assets, gold, silver, land, fine art, anything, and turn over increases. So that I think the plans the FED is playing with fire here in terms of setting off a potentially dangerous inflationary cycle. In Layman's terms, James, what is the currency war? The currency war is two countries who cheapen their currency to still trade advantage from

their partners. So we're not always in a currency war. But when currency wars began, they can last for ten or fifteen years. And I talked about that in my book. The book came out of my book Currency Wars came out in two thousand eleven. Here we are in two thousand eighteen, and we're still in the same currency war. Reporters, there's a new currency where well, now, I say, no, it's the same one. It's just been going back and forth.

Currency wars happened when there's too much debt not enough growth. It's exactly the situation we're in today. Too much that not enough growth, the same situation the world was in the nineteen nine after World War One. So what countries do is they try to get a little growth by stealing it from their trading partners. So if I cheapen the dollar, we'll guess what my bowing aircraft exports are there, they're a little cheaper to foreign buyers. All US exports

are cheaper. Imports are more expensive because we're trying to buy them with a cheaper currency, so that improves the trade deficit. That's good for growth, and like I say, it helps big exporters like General Electric and Bowing and so forth. So that's the theory. The problem is that there's retaliation. So I cheapen the dollar. Well, you know, Europe comes along and they try to cheapen the euro, and China comes along and they try to cheapen the

yuan and so forth. So it just goes back and forth and back and forth like two kids on a seesaw, and it's a negative some game. Everybody ends up worse off. Nobody wins, but the temptation is always there to give your economy a boost with the cheap currency. So the Fed's doing that right now. Today the dollar is getting weaker, and you know, maybe the US is getting a little boost to go side by side with the stimulus and

the tax cut, but it won't last again. There'll be some retaliation from China sooner or later, and that's how the currency wears play out. If Trump could, uh from read your book, and maybe he has, by the way, but I just mean if you were to read it again, let's say, and was to take one thing from it, that he could do or that the government could do right now to try and address some of the problems that you've described for US, James, what would it be

Probably by gold. Russia's doing it, China's doing it. You have to ask yourself, Buck, Russia and China have tripled their gold reserves in the last nine years. Russia has gone from about six hundred tons to almost two thousand tons. China has gone from again around six hundred times to almost two thousand tons. About China has a lot more than that because they're non transparent about it. So you have to ask yourself, you know, are the Russians Chinese

stupid or do they see something we don't. Well, I'm in the Moscow and Beijing. I'm sure you have to They're not stupid. They know what they're doing. And if they are acquiring that much gold, they have to be getting ready for some kind of international monetary collapse at reset. And I would say one thing the U s could do to increase its strength and beyond playing defense actually as strength in its hand, would be to get more gold itself. Is the music going to stop on the

US economy? James? Uh? It will sure these these financial crisis come along almost like clockwork, every seven eight years. You get back October seven stock market fell in one day. That would be the equivalent of five thousand doll points today, not five thousand. The Mexican crisis seven, the Asian crisis, the Russia crisis two thousand, the dot com meltdown two thousand seven, the mortgage mountdown two thousand and eight. Leman Hi g We haven't had one since two thousand and eight.

But as they say that history says they come along every seven eight years. We're not in a good position for one right now. But whether it's the currency wars, natural disaster, shooting, war with North Korea, trade war with China, there's a lot of catalysts out there in the stock mark you could drop like a stone. James Rickards, author of Currency Wars The Making of the Next Global Crisis. James, great to have you, Thanks so much. Thanks all right, team,

We're gonna goroll into a break. When we come back, I am going to talk to you about a lot of things, including, uh, there's Shield Time podcast this week, the First Crusade. It's out today checking out on iTunes. We'll be right back. It was a pretty crazy weekend in the news cycle. I was deep in my history books. Actually had a few of my books from one of my favorite classes in college at Amherst, which was the First Crusade. So actually took I took an entire semester

on course on the First Crusade. It was some time ago, but it was an excellent professor. He was Irish and he was from the University of Massachusetts and was just teaching a class on Amherst campus. But I was all immersed in that world. I was. I was just rocking out in the eleventh century slash early twelfth century, as one does. And I saw the talk to you about the Hawaii bomb or missile threat warning, which just is baffling that that could happen the way that it did.

And then I saw something else, and I should I had to assume right away that this is a joke or no way, But it turns out it's not. Chelsea Manning is running for office, and it is for the it's for a Senate seat. And I just think to myself, you know, we've really just as a society, it seems to me entirely and completely, uh lost some sense of objectivity when you not when you have somebody who has no accomplishments or resume to speak of a part from

committing treason against his country. And that is for the Democrat Party, at least some Democrats like Chelsea Manning is not gonna win. But that is taken seriously as as a possibility by some within the party, by some people inside of the American Left. And I just don't know how that's I was gonna say, know how it's possible. But sure enough, here we are, um running for Senate in Maryland. This is a This is a little bit

of the news background of this. The transgender uh former Army officer who was convicted of leaguing classified documents, filed her statement of candidacy with the Federal Election Commission on Thursday. The Washington Post reported Saturday that Manning will challenge Democrat Ben Cardon. He has served two terms and is an overwhelming favorite to win. The three year old. Manning list that a North Bethesda address in her FEC filing. She

is running as a Democrat. Manning was convicted of leaking classified information and spent more than six years behind bars. Um, okay, A few things, a few things here, and that's all. From some NBC affiliate down in Maryland. Okay, she's not gonna see I just did it. He's not gonna win. He's not gonna win. I know, people yell your miss gendering. No, you can change your name, you can't change your gender.

This is a debate now that has turned into Democrats not just yelling, but trying to use the force of law against reality, against what is obvious and apparent to anybody who cares to pay attention, that is that Chelsea Manning is a male. There's there's there's not a scientific debate or dispute about this. It is as clear as any objective reality can be. And yet here you have this and be and so many of them. Now I

even see conservatives doing it. And I'm telling you, if I start doing it, it's only because I'm being threatened with either like legal action or some kind of HR sanction from somewhere or someone, because it's just crazy to me. But that's where we're heading. I mean, now, in an office environment and a workplace, you're gonna have to say she when it's a he, and he when it's a she. Why because someone says so? Now, it would be one thing if, like I said, if this were just about choice,

your name is a choice. If somebody wants to be called lothar Key, Master of Gozer, which is actually a pretty badass name, I will call them that if that is in fact their name, right, I mean, I think you have to. But you know, then again, if it's not on your driver's license or or your passport or something. If you're just changing your name every five minutes, you know, at some point you can also say to somebody, what's your real name? Right? But you can change your name.

You're allowed to decide this is what I would this is what I would like to be called. But you can't change your gender. And forcing people to recognize an unreality or a falsehood is a very dangerous game for society to play, and it's getting crazier and crazier. I remember five or six years ago, if you said that Democrats would be pushing for boys to be able to use the girls bathroom in high school and vice versa,

based upon gender identity, you would have been called a fearmongerer. Nonsense, you're just being you're just being a big it, and you're also I mean, and now here here we are we're already at the point where that's the case, and we're supposed to forget that it wasn't long ago at all that the very people pushing for this were saying that it was crazy and never going to happen. Well, I guess times changed rather quickly, didn't they. But it is a matter of time. I think that we will

all be forced. There will be an effort two eliminate people from the public sphere who refused to play this preposterous game when it comes to pronouns. But back to Chelsea Manning specifically formerly known as Bradley Manning. You know that's called when you refer to a transgender person's a previous name that is tied to their previously identified self identified gender. They call that dead naming, and it's a terrible insult. Do you think why is it such an insult?

Right If somebody says says, you know, Buck, your name is actually James, and I say, well, Buck is part of my middle name, and it's been my name son as a kid. But saying that my first name is James is not an insult. It's just just true. Saying that somebody's name was something else is not an insult. You can say it's dead naming, but the problem that they have with it is just that it points out how absurd the whole situation is that, you know, they

don't want any reminders of what has happened here. Someone has decided, oh I'm actually you know, my name isn't Bob, my name is Susie and I'm a woman. Okay, why how when did that happen? And we're supposed to celebrate this too. Look, people can do whatever they want. Somebody wants to go around where addressed, you know or not? Or what people can dress how want. They can do what they want. You know, do your thing, you do you I get all that, but to force me to

be complicit in a delusion is wrong. And Chelsea Manning is still celebrated by some on the left for what I have. Well, I have some idea. They think that those leaks were exposing war crimes, and I was going to say to them, really, what what war crimes were exposed by the leaks? Exactly that mistakes happen in war, that Chelsea Manning formerly Bradley Manning could embarrassed people who are actually fighting the war out there. It's just it

enrages me. But I'll tell you this, Chelsea Manning is gonna get some votes, not a lot, but there will be people who vote for Chelsea Manning. Make no mistake about it. Obama commuted this guy's sentence. All right, We're going to get into uh much more coming up here, and stay with me the battles of the past to find the president. This is Shields High. Gather around, friends, for I have a story to tell. A thousand years ago, a military force assembled in Europe and rallied under the

banner of the Cross. This Christian army believed no less than their eternal salvation was at stake the team. That's the beginning of this week's episode of Shields High. We have gone from the Battle of Tour, the victory of Charles Martel the Hammer over the Franks, to the First Crusade. I think you will really enjoy this episode. It gets into a bit more of the context of the First

Crusade that I think you'll hear almost anywhere else. I'm always amazed at how incorrect so much of the historical analysis is of the Crusades that's out there, that the conventional wisdom is largely nonsense. But first please do download the Shields High Podcast. It is available on the iTunes app. We are on episode two this week. We're having episodes coming out each Monday for the foreseeable future. Next week is gonna be the Fall of Constantinople, which is big,

gonna be awesome. You're gonna definitely gonna want to hear that episode. And then after that we get into some of our favorites like Malta and Vienna and La Panto, et cetera. It's gonna be really really interesting stuff. I'm all excited about it. I've been telling everybody that the Shields High Podcast is kind of like my version for those of you who have seen the movie Forgetting Sarah Marshall,

this is my Dracula opera. In that movie, the guy who is he is broken up with by his celebrity girlfriend. He's really bummed out and his passion project. He's a musician, but his passion project is a Dracula puppet opera and he just really wants to do it. Well, this is my Dracula opera. The the I can't and if I see Van Helsing, I'll slay him. Ha ha ha. I mean,

you've got to see the movie to understand. It sounds like I'm having some kind of an uh A breakdown here, but I'm actually just quoting from the movie forgetting Sarah Marshall. But do please check out the podcast. I know a lot of you are listening to show live on radio,

like why podcast? Come on? It's fun. You can listen to it whenever you want, and you can share it with friends, and it stays good for a while or well forever actually, And it's also something where there's information, so it's not just somebody roll look a construit totion, not America and everything that's falling apart and rah bah blah blah. You know, you listen to the Shield High podcast,

you learned some cool stuff. One of the things that I wanted to get across with the First Crusades, Well, first of all, with the First Crusade, they teach kids in school that the Crusades were just these these barbarians that wanted to destroy this wonderful, peaceful Muslim civilization that you know, had just been chilling in Palestine and the surrounding areas for you know, for for as long as

anybody could remember. But the truth is that these were all Christian lands we're talking about here, and that will come across on the podcast. What is now Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan's, Egypt, all of the above of course Israel. Uh. These were areas under Christian control and before that areas under the control of the Roman Empire. And when I say Christian control, it was predominantly the Eastern Byzantine Christian Empire that was running the show and these areas. But then the Muslim

onslaught came. But there's notion that the Crusades were offensive and that jihad is defensive, right, it only happens to defend people. That's complete and utter garbage. And they teach kids this all the time, and there are academics. I'm sure I'd go on TV and oh no, tree hards. They'll have to tell me it's internal struggling, yeah, or they'll tell me that it is only defensive, not true.

But also other than the fact that you have the Crusades not coming out of some vacuum, but actually has a response to repeated efforts by the Islamic forces to try and conquer more and more of Europe. Remember Charles Martel. They came up through Spain, all the way into really the center of France and had to be turned back.

And the only thing that kept them from a full scale invasion through the east was Constantinople, right the the massive city, the fortress of Constantinople, that was the bulwark

of Christianity. And so when it became clear that it was threatened and that the surrounding territory had fallen into the hands of the various well various caliphates, notably the selgiant Turks in the eleventh century, that's when they had to reach out for help to the Christians and all this I get into some detail about in in the podcast, but it's also why we have to talk coming up about the fall of Constantinople, and that will be a history deep dive next Monday, and I think you'll definitely

want to That will be the first time we haven't talked about that one before on the show, so I'm looking forward to it. And then I think after that we're going to do an official Shields high on Malta, and then yeah, I got a whole lot more planned.

So there's that also, just the notion that the crusade was such a long shot that you would send at this period in time we're talking about now, the Council of Claremont, they get into Asia, minor contents, the noble, but that you would be able to get a force of roughly fifty thousand and move them over land all the way into hostile territory and deep in into Islamic controlled land, and that they could win. He's astonishing, really. I this is a period in time when most warfare

was conducted based upon grarian schedules. That the harvest season, so you couldn't raise, you couldn't levy, and you couldn't raise a force and use it for more than a certain period of time because people would starve. They have to get back to their families, to their farms. So you had a campaign season that was in no way flexible really. I mean you could try if you were going to insist on keeping your army in the field,

but they would they would dessert, they would mutiny. It was just not they were They were not professional armies year round at the time. And you had a lot of conscripts, people using very basic weapons without much, if anything in the way of training, so that they marched from different parts of Europe, but marched from Europe all the way across eastern Europe, the Straits or the the Dardan else right the crossing point the Bossphorus where Constantinople is,

and then into Asia Minor. It's just an incredible story and incredible journey, and that they won numerous battles when really, if you look, and you'll get this from this show, they should have been annihilated. I don't mean they should have. Isn't that would have been the right thing. But I'm saying they were outmatched and outnumbered numerous times, and it was certainly quite a bit of luck and just sheer

will and determination that let them take Jerusalem. So I think you really enjoy this week's episode of Shields Ye, and also those of you who have been sharing it with friends and family. I can't thank you enough. We did tens of thousands of downloads of the first episode. I can tell you that. Um, I don't want to give you an exact number yet because it's still it's still happening, but we we are doing very well on

that podcast because of all of you. So those of you have and listened, please do, and those of you who are passing around the word, I really do. Thank you for that. It means a lot. And I spent my whole weekend working on this thing. I mean, this is all I did. It's and it's only about thirty forty minutes long. But to script it and audio edit it and just do this properly, do the research is It's a labor love like I said, so please do Shields hie on iTunes, also on the I Heart app.

You can subscribe on iTunes and uh new episode out today and another one coming up next week. We're back with some Team buck roll call. Stay right there, Welcome back, everybody. It's time for some team buck roll call. Love getting to hear from all of you. Went through as many messages as I could. I think I'm almost caught up in the inbox on Facebook for like the last week or so. So that's that's good. That's uh, what happened to you? Spend the whole weekend Ms Molly's in Hawaii.

Uh fortunately there's no actual ballistic missile issue, but seas in Hawaii, So that means this past weekend I just got to well study and eat a lot. So that was what I did. I had that going for me, which is nice. But I also got a chance to catch up in your messages. If you want to send me your thoughts, you can at Facebook dot com slash Buck Sexton or also official Team Buck at gmail dot com. So with all that, let's get into it, shall we.

Let's see we let's see what we got. First one up this week in Team Buck roll call on at Nazio. He writes, Hey, man, saw you on Fox News Channels. Greetings from Spain. God bless America. Well at Nazio. Uh comyta and uh that's about as much spanished as I speak. I hope you're doing well. Thank you for the Coli message. Nice that we've got some Team Buck Spain in effect. This week we got Gregg up next. Buck. It's really great seeing you on Fox from time to time. I

was actually on twice today. Um retiring on February. Brother, if I get up to the city, do you have a moment to get a beer? Rangers lead the way, shields high. Well, Greg, I will respond here. I may not be in the city that week, but I will let you know, and maybe you can have your swing by the hut and meet everybody here. But I will have the team respond a set, all right, and thank you for your service, sir. Next up this week, we are this week. I keep saying this week today. Pardon me.

I know it's Martin Luther King Day. It's a holiday, and I am not not always registering that because I have to be at work. A j with the following. Your show is the best I'm listening since before the American Now broadcast when I find you. I found you after you subbed in for Rush Limbaugh. I listened by podcast and it gets me through my daily workout. Um. I sometimes struggle with the volume levels during the show. Thanks and Shields High a J. It's weird with podcast

volume stuff. A lot of people in the past have told me they've had an issue with with that, but I we look at it here. I have the tech team check it out, and it is, uh how do always say it? Uh? Individual based. It depends on someone's gear and what they've got going on, so it's a little bit different there. Um. But I will take a look again because I always do. Dust In, hey Buck, I just finished the first episode of Shields High, and I loved it. I can't wait to share it with

my son once he's older. I hope it will inspire him to search out and understand the truth of history for himself as he gets older. Well dust it. Thank you very much for your kind note. Uh. We've also got one in here from Adam, who writes, Crisper could cure everything in response to your rant on infections. Adam, I don't know what that means, but I will look into it. I'm not familiar. I'm not familiar with Crisper. I'll have to look at it and thank you for

bringing it to my attention. All right, we have Lauren who writes in oh wow, this is uh, this is a long one, Buck. I just listen to history podcast and actually liked it, which is saying something because I've never been interested in history, so thank you for peaking my interest. I also have a random question about the Harry Potter's storyline. Have you read all the books or

seen all the movies. I was really confused to find out that the author is a progressive, because when I read the books, I thought for sure the author must be a conservative. I saw so many parallels in the storyline. I saw the main characters and Dumbledore to be the conservatives who are willing to acknowledge that evils exist, call

it by name, and fight back against it. I saw the Ministry of Magic as the leftist bureaucracy who pretend evil doesn't exist, don't want to give students the tools to fight it, want them to be in effect unarmed, and I saw members in that bureaucracy as full blown to talitarians. Wow, this is some like next level Harry Potter analysis here, folks. So I was curious if I'm the only one who saw this angle of the books, would be interested to hear your take on it if

you have time to get through this series. Well, Lauren, thank you for your very kind note. I have never read a Harry Potter book, and I have I think I think in college a uh a date made me go to a Harry Potter movie once. I do not really remember it. I mean, I'm obviously familiar with Harry Potter, but I haven't. I don't think I've ever sat through an entire episode, or not episode, an entire film with Harry Potter as the subject matter. So I can't give

you any good analysis on that. But you did get it read on air for a national coast to coast radio audience, So that's that's kind of cool. You know what I mean. Uh, let's see what else we got here. Uh. Friendly OSS message for your team, buck your bumpers, This from Jim are coming in hot. I just thought you guys would want some professional technical insight to your brilliant show. Great job, Okay, Jim, we'll check out the bumpers. I

don't know. I don't need I that's a little bit beyond my my skill set here in terms of what we do technically. Um Corny writes in with the following book, I've quickly become a huge fan and listened to your podcast daily on my commute to work. Your show was the best thing I got out of my LA relationship. But I digress. I work in healthcare, and I've seen firsthand the gradual decline in the health care system since

I graduated in two thousand and eight. Often those with the best health care benefits are those who have barely ever contributed to society. They are also often the most non compliant. For example, I had a patient with luring luringual cancer uh and at tracheost to me who was smoking through his stoma four to five times a day while his insurance company was paying for expensive chemotherapy and

radiation treatments. It just doesn't make sense. I'd love to hear more on your take regarding the healthcare healthcare and how we can better improve the system. Socialized healthcare is not the answer, and it truly scares me that anyone could think that's a viable solution. Thanks Courtney. Uh well, Courty. First of all, I'm so glad you enjoy the podcast, and then I get to keep you company on your way to work on your commute, So I am honored.

And healthcare is gonna be as it always is, a big topic of political debate and discussion, and I'd love to see the GEOP actually do something this year that's worthwhile on healthcare. I I'm a little disappointed at what we've seen so far from this Goop Congress, obviously on

healthcare and repeal in the place of Obamacare. The reality is that we have to to get to where we want to be as conservatives with healthcare, we would have to do things that would be seen by many as radical because right now, having any actual let's get in the game, so to speak, to care where your dollars go, those are all differences, Those are all Uh that's not the case with our current healthcare system. Our system right now is based on healthcare is kind of a right.

How much healthcare is a political decision and somebody else will always pay for it. It's just not the way that it is supposed to be. And that's why I think we have a lot of folks with very frustrating, very frustrating circumstances. And it's also a situation where or it's also the only industry I can think of where you don't know what the price is. The price changes all the time, and price sensitivity is not a part

of the health care purchasing process. So I got a lot of thoughts on healthcare, but they'll be uh coming out in bits and pieces throughout the year as we follow it in the news cycle. So tomorrow I'll try to get some of the team buck emails going here, so that will be coming up for us next or tomorrow at least. And UH, thank you again for all the kind words about the History show. I'm gonna keep it going. As long as you keep listening passing it around,

we'll we'll keep it going. So thank you for that. Uh, have a very happy and RESTful rest of your Martin Luther King Holiday and tomorrow. I'm sure it's gonna be very interesting with the possibility of that government shutdown in a few days. Lots of stuff that, lots of stuff to chat about, so do check out all the latest on iTunes for the show and Shields High and until tomorrow, Shields High