9/11 Remembered

struck this citadel of power and American strength. But the enemy soon learned that they could not weaken the spirit of our people. In times of distress, the heart of the American patriot only grows stronger and more determined. The American people will never forget or ever fail to be inspired by the courage of the men and women to

Flight ninety three. We honor them by remembering them, and we honor them by resolving here and now that we will do as they did, each of us and all of our varied roles, to prevent such evil from ever reaching our shores again. Even in the midst of the attack, the world witnessed the awesome power of American defiance. Forty passengers and crew on Flight ninety three rose up, fought back,

and thwarted the enemy's wicked plans. In their final moments, these American heroes thunderously declared that we alone decide our fate. We saw American perseverance in the valued New York firefighters, police officers, first responders, military, and every day citizens who raced into the crashing towers to rescue innocent people. Welcome to the Buck Section show. Everyone. September eleventh, the day

that we all remember. I'm sure every single one of you recalls exactly where you were on that day, what you were thinking. I have told you before. I was walking to a class up at Amherst College. The professor looked at us all very gravely and said that there has been a plane that has run into has flown into one of the twin towers, and I think you should all go back and turn on the news. And we did, and I remember seeing the second plane hit.

Because my dorm was right next to the where the classroom was, I was able to get back very quickly, and I saw that second plane hit, and then I watched and watched, and then saw the towers collapse. Born and raised in this city, but first and foremost an American, not a New Yorker. I knew that we had been attacked and we were going to war. I remember saying,

actually to my friends, we're going to war. I didn't know against two or what at the time, just was quite obvious that this was the worst attack we had suffered since Pearl Harbor. I didn't know at the time, but I would end up finding myself in two wars that would result from that day, one in a rock, one in Afghanistan. And here we are now eighteen years later, and the memory is very fresh for me. I'm sure

this form many of you as well. I also remember being on the Upper East Side of Manhattan, where I grew up and seeing the first and only time in my life. I think I still have photos of it somewhere all up and down the Avenue American flags. There were something different in the era. President Trump and Vice President Pence were referring to it today in their remarks. We knew we had been hit. It was devastating, we

lost many thousands of our own. We also knew that we would rally, and that the greatest country, really the greatest civilization the world has ever known American civilization was going to show the world our resolve and not be

cowed by this, not be broken by it. And then it led to many people from my generation and a generation or two above me as well, joining the fight in one way or another, whether in the military or deciding that they wanted to be heroes, like those NYPD and f D and Y individuals who gave their lives

trying to evacuate those towers that day. Then you also had people who saw the courage of what happened on flight ninety three and recognize that it is on all of us to stare down and take action against evil

when evil presents itself. It is on all of us to understand that there can be no bystanders when you are faced with a threat like we were that day of Islamic jihadism that viewed itself as in a civilizational war against us, and that was seeking our destruction, the downfall of our society, the elimination of our freedoms, and with it, who knows how many generations, not just here in America but around the world left to much lesser

lives than they would have otherwise, had much less liberty, freedom, prosperity hope. I still remember very well what it was like that day. I'm sure you do too. I believe some of you, I would assume we're directly affected by what happened. I think that unfortunately the country has reached a point now where we don't think of nine to eleven the way that we should all the time, which is a reminder of how fragile our liberty really is.

That there are people, there are forces in this world that would seek to take it away, and that we have to be willing to meet evil head on. That there is no international body, there's no way of just finding agreement common ground with everyone all over the world who would otherwise seek to take up arms against Sometimes we have to actually meet force with force. Nine to eleven is a day that we say we will never forget. I think unfortunately, far too many of our fellow Americans

have started to forget it. There is a strain of left wing ideology in this country. I think the dominant belief among the American left is that we overreacted to nine to eleven. I even remember, on the day of the attacks, I was told by, or rather in front of the whole school a professor stood up and claimed that this was a response to US foreign policy, that more or less we got this because we deserved this.

That was a sentiment that you heard in some quarters the day it happened, and the days after it happened, when it was quite fresh that we had lost almost three thousand of our own in cowardly, disgusting, psychotic suicide, murderer tax. My friends, this world that we live in, now, this reality that we all inhabit, who are in this country, of the good guys win, that's only the case because there are good guys who are willing to give their

lives so it will continue to be true. And gals, of course, it's only the case because there are people who stand up and are ready to do violence on our behalf, two men who would seek to destroy us because of our liberty, because of our freedom. I remember we used to call it the Global War on Terror, and then after fighting it for a number of years, leftists came along and try to change it so that we shouldn't call it that it's a fight against a tactic.

And then there were even movies that were made that seemed to want to shift this into being almost a natural disaster. It was not a natural disaster. It was a day that the that its dates was hit with evil and we were caught napping. Let's be very clear about it. We were not prepared for what was coming our way. That's another lesson we should never forget. It's certainly something that we had never experienced since Pearl Harbor, and I hope we never have to experience it again.

I hope that my children and your children and so forth never have to have a day where they wonder, is the world ever going to be the same and is it only going to get worse from here? I had that thought. I thought maybe we would be involved in endless wars, mass casualties, massive casualties on our side. Who knew where this was really going to go. What if the enemy had gotten weapons of mass destruction already?

What if they had acquired nuclear material. What if they were going to destroy a US city, unleash biological weapons that could kill thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands or more. What does the world look like then, What happens to global markets, what happens to rule of law? It was a scary day. It's very easy now to look back on it and think well, we were going to be fine.

We're the most powerful country in the world, and then you get into this lulling ourselves into a sense of fall security today, as if this could not happen again, as if there's no scenario in which the United States could be the victim of a sneak attack that kills thousands and upends our very way of life and makes us feel at a core level deeply unsafe, makes us all worry if the future that we thought we would have as Americans was really going to be ours anymore.

So I wish that they would spend an hour every year replaying exactly what happened in that first hour of the attack on the various news channels. I think that would be a way to pay proper Homa chair in addition to the different memorials. And but I think that that's something that we will forget what it really felt like that day as time passes, and there are lessons that we should never ever forget. We'll get into more of this team in just a moment, stay would me

my son, Kenneth Joseph Marino. Being a firefight is not a job, it's a calling. Not everyone can do what a firefight it does, and especially what they did on September eleven, running into burning buildings when everyone else was running out, knowing that they may not make it out themselves. Yet they continue to do what they were called upon to do and saved many lives on a horrific day. As we all know, many firefighters did not make it out,

and my son, Kenny was one of them. He left behind his wife, a twenty month both son and the three year old daughter, but his spirit lives within his children and he would be so crowded them to day. Well, we are hungled by Kenny's actions and the actions of all the first responders. Eighteen years has not listened, our laws, our lives have been forever changed, but we hold on

to and cherished the moment fields shared. I remember during my time at the NYPD Intelligence Division, occasionally there would be some reference by MYPD veterans, guys who've been in the force a long time. They would just come up that they knew somebody who was in the tower that day, that they lost one of one of ours. They would say, one of the police officers who rushed into the buildings

tried to evacuate people, and it's very likely. I mean, they can never know the exact number, but the estimates are that our first responders law enforcement saved perhaps a few thousand lives that day by the orderly evacuation. It's difficult, it's traumatic when you go back and read the transcripts, listen to just exactly what happened. Then I today heard

a voicemail. You know, they had these voicemails that were left behind of people that were on one of the planes that after it was clear they were being hijacked and used as weapons, and that it was unlikely that anybody on the plane was going to survive. And that choked me up today actually still does just thinking about it. So you have to at some level go back there. You have to remind yourself of exactly what we faced

and what happened and the losses that we sustained. Then you also have to take away from it the bravery that was on display by our own the first responders, the Todd Beemer and those with him on flight ninety three that day. It was a reminder that we are never we are never without recourse, that the bravery of the righteous can overcome anything. But man NYPD, F D and y they were. They were never really quite the

same after that in terms of cherishing. I think the work that each and every one of them was doing every day. There was a feeling here in the city. I came into New York soon after nine to eleven, there was a sense that this country had come together, and I do think we missed that sometimes now I think we missed it a lot. It didn't last all

that long. We're going to talk about the politics of this in a moment, because there are idiot leftists out there, including members of Congress and also major media outlets that have acted like fools today, total fools. And what's perhaps even more unsettling is they've shown us what they really think of nine to eleven, that they still don't get it, or perhaps they reject some very important realities of that day. There is a movement right now. I cannot even I

can't say it without getting angry. But I'll just tell you today you had over at CNN on the anniversary of nine to eleven doing a quote reality check under the headline America's nine to eleven Amnesia, and then in the big screen behind one of their one of their anchors was right wingers are America's deadliest terrorists. That's right, on today, of all days. We have to be told this idiotic lie. It is not true, But we have

to be told that conservatives are the real threat. Yet nineteen hijackers, fifteen of them Saudi Arabia, nineteen of them Muslims, and we have to be told that it is our own domestic American conservatism that we should all be worried about. And there were some corrections that different media outlets have had to make in the last few days that I think we're particularly illuminating. Perhaps foremost among them was the

New York Times today. This was you couldn't if you thought, if you said this might happen, people would tell you no, They're not that obvious about trying to make this seem like it was a natural disaster, like this wasn't the result of an enemy that had been at war with

us for a long time. In fact, really an ideology that has been at war with us, with America in one form or another, stretching back to the founding, you can go back to the war against the Barbary pirates, Jeff and Adams and the emissary from the Barbary States, telling our own Secretary of State that they make war on us because the Koran tells them that they can, and that we are infidels, and that that is just

the way it is going to be. A lot of people reject this history and say that that's not really something that we need to focus on. I mean, I didn't learn anything about the Barbary pirates in school. I've had to learn on my own. The New York Times meanwhile, has a different view of what happened that day, it seems, because they shared from their official Twitter account on September eleventh today. Earlier today, eighteen years have passed since airplanes

took aim and brought down the World Trade Center. Today, families will once again gather and grieve at the site where more than two thousand people died. Airplanes took aim. Folks, it was those rogue airplanes. Perhaps there was a mechanical failure on all of them at once. Something must have gone wrong in the airplanes because they took aim. These

inanimate objects. No nineteen human beings who are part of a coherent aggressive, colonialist and world dominating if they get their way ideology, came up with a plan to try to ruin this country where people live in freedom and happiness and decency in civilized fashion. They try to ruin that it was human beings, it was an enemy, it was an ideology, It was radical Islam. New York Times wanted us to forget that. Today I have to ask why,

how could they make that mistake. We'll get into that Care was founded after nine eleven because they recognized that some people did something and that all of us were starting to lose access to our civil liberties. Some people did something. It's a sitting member of the United States Congress Democrat from Minnesota. Some people did something. I think it's a pretty big damn thing that they did, and a horrible one and a life altering life taking in

so many thousands of cases. One but this mentality, this idea that there should be a revisiting, a revisionism around nine to eleven. It's not new. It's been there for quite some time. And there are people on the left who have never really been honest about what happened that day.

There are many people in the Democratic Party who still think that the biggest problem was, in fact, the Islamophobia that resulted from nine to eleven now I will tell you this, and I've said in years passed on radio, I think it's I think it bears repeating the fact that we had nineteen hijackers, all of whom were Muslim, engage in this mass casualty attack, this act of war and cowardice against the American people, and there were so few cases I'm not saying there were none, but so

few cases of retaliation of violent bigotry against the Muslim community in this country is just a testament to who we are as people. Who we are as Americans. We recognize that every individual is is only responsible for his or her actions. You don't punish people because someone else did something who looks like them, praised like them, comes from the same place as them. That would be immoral,

and you can't fight immorality by becoming evil yourself. But I don't think we get enough credit as a country, if anything, for that that it was a reminder of just how decent, intolerant, and kind and generally speaking loving the American people are to each other day to day. Instead the narrative you often hear from the left as well, there was a rise in hate crimes that we you

know that that's the biggest threat today. The New York Times had a whole page of editorials that had only one only one editorial on September eleventh, on the anniversary of this attack that even dealt with the attack, and it was to talk about the first person perspective of somebody who was concerned about the otherness and loss of civil liberties that he was concerned about as a Muslim American.

That's it. Nothing about the sacrifice of so many who served in our military who went over to root out these terrorists, which was absolutely needed. Was the right response to go into Afghanistan and eradicate al Qaeda and their Taliban hosts. We lost people in that fight. And yes, there were a lot of terrorists, by the way, in Iraq as well. We could talk about whether they showed up after Saddam fell or whether they were there in the first place, depends on who and what we're what

we're looking at specifically. But some of the most evil jihadest imaginable were taken off the battlefield in Iraq as well, and that was by our military, particularly our Special Operations community, going after high value targets. Yes, there are liberals today who would rather move past this and pretend that it was something other than what it was. It was a natural, Desig asked her. It was aberrant. It had nothing to

do with Islamic radicalism specifically. It was just this one group, this one small subset of radical Islam that attacked us on that day, and maybe US foreign policy had been a little too hubristic for a while and this was a way of keeping us in check. There are liberals who make those arguments, there are leftists who believe this stuff. I can't imagine anybody saying in reference to nine to eleven, you know, some people skipping past it like it's a footnote.

Some people did something, and this from someone who had to flee a country that is a mess to come to this country, which welcomed her not just with open arms, but made her a member of our elected body. But nine to eleven's a footnote. Nine eleven is something that you just referenced in passing as though it was really just in the course of normal American history and things happen.

Some people did something stunning. But there's a lot that you can look to today to show you that the politics of nine to eleven are still being fought out in public. There are leftist media organizations that really think that they should focus they should use Not eleven to focus on the real threat, which is Trump's fascism and

right wing extremism. And as I've done before, if we're going to talk about where we have to look for the real threat of terrorism, let's look, for example, at the percentage of the population that would be fall under under the white conservative male that the media outlets want to tell us is the main terrorist threat, and then the percentage of the population that would fall under what

could be radical Islam. And then you crunch the numbers, you say, wow, there's definitely a disparity here, isn't there. That's perhaps a conversation we'll get into more another day. But it's a hard day to day. I really mean that I think about I go back in my mind every year, and I'm not particularly active on social media. I don't write a reflection every your My reflection is this. It's this show and what I consider throughout the day, and like so many of you, how it changed my life.

I remember, before nine to eleven, I thought America was just the good guys had won and everything the world was just going to keep getting better and wealthier and safer and happier, and the fights that my generation would have would be around, you know, minor things or manageable domestic things. You know, how do we almost entirely eliminate violent crime? How do we make sure that, you know, everybody has access to a good home and education and all the things that we talk about as a country

all the time. And then this happened, and a few million of my fellow Americans answered the call and decided that they were going to show up and fight for their country. I have to say, for all this talk that you hear, it has become very commonplace to have all this stuff about how you know, millennial, oh, millennials this, and millennials that millennials are so bratty and Okay, well, I'm technically a millennial, and I know a lot of millennials that said, sign me up for my country. I

will give my life. You tell me where to go, you tell me where the bad guys are. Let's do this the bar from Todd Biemer, Let's roll. I think we have to remember those millennials and Gen X and jen Y and boomers and everybody else who showed up.

But I'm part of what I think you could term the nine to eleven generation, people who were adults and of military fighting age when this thing happened, and there were a lot of people who their lives changed, and people also gave their lives in response to this one event, this one day. It is a formative, a formative day for America, one that will be with us forever. And it's a question of what we do as a result

and how we go forward. So we must remember what the attack was, who came after us, and why, and then take courage and take some degree of hope from the fact that we rallied as the nation that we know we are and men. We should be proud of all those who served and took the fight to the enemy, and also just proud of the way that America responded as a country. Overwhelmingly, we rallied as one. Let's talk about a little bit of the aftermath of the bull

the situation. I've got more for you. Stay with me. Some people did something, said a freshman congresswoman from Minnesota, to support and justify the creation of care. Today, I am here to respond to you exactly who did what, to whom madam. Objectively speaking, we know who and what was done. There is no uncertainty about that. Why your confusion? On that day, nineteen Islamic terrorists, members of al Qaida killed over three thousand people and caused billions and dollars

of economic damage. Is that clear? But as to whom I was attacked? Your relatives and friends were attacked, Our constitutional freedoms were attacked, and our nation's founding on Judeo Christian principles were attacked. That's what some people did. Got that. Now we are here today, foundress woman, to tell you in the squad, just who did what to whom? I'm sure he's a fact in honoring them? Please, American patriotism, I mean your position demanded for God in country. Amen.

Nine eleven victims Son there calling out the words of a representative Omar today at a nine eleven remembrance ceremony. I just I thought you should hear those words. So I told you we would talk about Bolton. I don't want to talk about him much more, just a couple of minutes and then we'll move on to some other things.

The warn't Afghanistan, ending the war in Afghanistan, which I think is in some ways, that would be the most fitting takeaway after this week of rememberance would be Okay, let's remember what happened, and then let's also remember that we should not expend one more life in that country than is absolutely necessary. I've had too many losses already, too much mission creep, too much drift, too much lack of focus, lack of a strategic imperative. Enough is enough.

Then you have to think about who makes these decisions and who's in charge Bolton and I think you know where I stand on Bolton in general. But all of a sudden, now the left is very concerned that Democrats are so concerned? How could you get rid of Bolton? If you had asked any Democrat six months ago, what do you think of Ambassador John Bolton? They would their

national security advisor slash Ambassador Bolton. They would have said, you know, he's a madman, wants to invade countries, bloodthirsty's a warmonger. That if it all kinds of horrible things. Ah. But this week, this news cycle, there's some possibility that attacking Bolton is a way, or rather, defending Bolton is a way of attacking Trump, And so it all changes. Actually, they say, Bolton's like really smart and an adult in the room, and getting rid of him is a terrible

thing for Trump. That who just goes to show that Trump is in disarray and you can't trust his judgment and doesn't know anything, doesn't understand anything you have. For example, Senator Chris Coons is very upset at the prospect of, or rather at the news of Bolton's firing. Well, Bolton was President Trump's third national security advisor. Obviously Flynn had

the briefest tenure. I think there's a lot that we need to know about what caused this abrupt firing by tweet of the president's national security advisor, what the policy differences were, and what this means about stability America's place in the world and the decision making team that surrounds

our president. This is all nonsense. First of all, the little swipe that he took at Flynn, who was set up by deep staters at the dj and FBI, people like Sally Yates, who abused the spirit of the law, if not the letter of the law, in order to take out someone they politically disapproved of. It was disgusting what they did to Flynn. I don't care if you lie or not. You never should have been put in that position in the first place. But here you have

Senator Coon saying that we have to worry about stability. Well, you could have one national security advisor for a really long time. It doesn't mean that any decisions are good. And this is also where people have a very limited understand including members of Congress, and most people in Congress to talk about foreign policy are intellectual dilettants on the subject. At best. They're not knowledgeable. They're not thoughtful. They don't

know history, they don't know policy. They just know what they have to say to stay in good stead with their own party and to keep the donation dollars rolling in and get reelected. That's what they're concerned about when it comes to foreign policy. They're really not thoughtful on the issue at all. I'm actually usually deeply unimpressed with Congress on matters of statecraft abroad. Most members of Congress I have on some issues, really very much agreed with

Senator Lindsey Graham. Sometimes on foreign policy we do not particularly see, although I think as foreign policy changes quite a bit, I do agree with them on this. Whether Bolton resigned or was fired. It doesn't matter, and he's darn right on that one. Did you Buller resigned or the president? I don't know, And again I don't think it matters. I think he served honorably and I appreciate his service to our country. And the president has right to choose somebody has trust in, and we'll get a

new national security advisor here soon. Plenty of people can do this job. There are a lot of folks who have fantastic intellectual, academic, and service credentials to do this job. You know, they've served their country in one role or another and would be an excellent Remember, this is an advisory role to the president. The President's got plenty of advisors. There's lots of information out there for him to glean.

And this is not some crisis they want to make it seem like, oh my gosh, without a bolt and disarray. How many White House disarray stories have you seen? Has any of it mattered? You know? Does it matter that they told Taylorson to pass his bags and hit the road? Does it matter they told Scaramucci a rivederci? I mean, does it matter that they vooted? Uh? You know, you know who? I can't even think of what's his name, Kelly. I mean, these people served, some of them longer than others,

some of them more honorably than others. But they served, and then the President's like, I don't want you to do this anymore. Go do something else. That's it. They try to overcomplicate this with these stories of oh, there's a lock of stability. There are tons of people in DC and across the country who could be very fit advisors for the president on national security, where this is not a crisis. It's not a problem. The only crisis is that my phone hasn't rung yet. President Trump, I

don't know what to tell you, buddy. I'm here for you. You need me. You're a lot better than Bolton. I'll tell you that much can be right bad. We had peace talks scheduled a few days ago. I called them off when I learned that they had killed a great American soldier from port Rico and eleven other innocent people. They thought they would use this attack to show strength, but actually what they showed is unrelenting weakness. The last four days, we have hit our enemy harder than they

have ever been hit before. And that will continue, and if for any reason they come back to our country. We will go wherever they are and use power the likes of which the United States has never used before. And I'm not even talking about nuclear power. They will never have seen anything like what will happen to them. President Trump is right on the very important, very fundamental position here of ending the war in Afghanistan, and in

my opinion, it needs to be done. I also understand what that would mean, and I have said to you we should all be quite clear on this. I did not agree with the President inviting the Taliban to Camp David, but perhaps he thought that that was just going to get the final, you know, that final piece in place for a truce. I did not think that was the right move, But I think that he's right on a

much more important issue of what should happen now. How should we end America's longest ever war, and whatever agreements that we have from the Taliban, assurances we receive from the Taliban, we should be very clear on this is likely they will break some, if not all, of It is likely that they will double cross whatever diplomatic agreements we reach. It's just a question of when they think it's in their interest to do it, how long we wait for it to happen, and how bad the damages

when it happens. But that's where we are. The alternative, though, is to just continue to think that if we have about ten thousand or so troops stationed in this country, things are going to get better. They're not going to get better. We need to be willing to say that we will end the war in Afghanistan. Remember the Taliman's not in charge. Now, We've done a tremendous amount spent so many billions of dollars mentoring training, assisting Afghan military,

Afghan police. At some point you have to take the training wheels off this country and let it ride on its own. And I think we're there and if something goes wrong, and I do believe there's a very decent chance that that may be the case. If something does in fact go wrong, we know this going into it, that there is that risk. So I do believe that President Trump is correct in trying to end this war

in Afghanistan. But I also think that and people have asked me, why why do I feel differently, for example, about the true presence in Iraq than I did about troops troops in Afghanistan rather versus Iraq, and I would just say that in the case of Iraq, you have a much you had a much more established central government, bureaucracy, infrastructure. Iraq compared to Afghanistan, was a much more developed country

and had far greater resources. Remember, Iraq has a lot of oil, folks, Iraq is not is not some you know, dirt poor third world country that can't get any revenues going. I mean, they're doing, they're doing. I think in recent years they've gotten upwards of eighty or ninety billion dollars in oil revenue, and it might be even higher than that now I should probably check and see exactly what it is. But you know, Afghanistan has nothing like that.

In fact, the only real revenue stream that enough Stan has ever had that started to feel like it could go in that direction was the illegal heroin trade through the opium poppies that they were growing. So I've got to tell you, it's just a different it's a different country, it's a different situation, just because those are two wars that we that we started, or in the case of Afghanistan, we were retaliated. But those are two wars that happened

close to each other. It doesn't mean that they're similar strategic situations. It doesn't mean that the likelihood of success is the same in both places. And we've done everything we can do in Afghanistan. I have not heard one person credibly say that the outcome at Afghanistan is likely to be different if we stay longer. I haven't heard a single person take that position, not one. What does that tell you? What does that mean to you? Have

we learned the lesson? This is a time for this discussion. It is the day of September eleventh. We remember what it was to be attacked on that day. We have been in Afghanistan for almost twenty years. I think that Trump's warning to anyone who would use Afghanistan again as a platform for a similar attack is well put. I think that's exactly what our position should be. I'm here in New York City. I grew up in this town.

Those were America. It was America who's attacked on that day, but it was New Yorkers who were and DC area residents for the most part. I know there are also people on the plans who comprised the mass of the casualties and if we got hit again anywhere in this country or anywhere around the world that killed Americans in a mass casualty attack, and we found out that it

was because the Taliban was harboring them. We're going to go back and our ferocity is going to be a thing that people will, I think be a bit astonished at for the ages, but that's what we should do. Otherwise we're just going to be in this country forever trying to make it a better place than it is. It's not on us. We can't make them have a decent civil society. We can't make them have a country with rule of law. I mean, I would just point, I would point to look at the situation, say in

Japan or in France after the Second World War. Those are countries that got up and running very quickly after the war, and both have done very well since then. But they were far more established nation states, much further along developmentally in terms of their civil society, in terms of their national identity. Look, Afghanistan has a big problem with where the loyalty of the population realies. Is it

to tribe or is it to country. If you are a Pashtun from the South, from Hellman, from Kandahar, you care more about fellow Pashtuns or do you care about what the sent government in Kabble tells you. These are problems for them to work out, not for us to work out. So I do think that President Trump is is correct here, and he's going to get a lot

of heat. I also worry that there are some people with very loud voices in this debate who have not just ideological but maybe even financial incentives for us to stay. And as difficult as that even to just think about anyone trying to direct US foreign policy toward a continued military presence where we're taking casualties, where we're having to

engage the enemy because of dollars and cents. It's a real thing, unfortunately, and I do believe that there are some out there who would like to see a continued presence in Afghanistan for that reason. But Trump wants to get us out. I hope he's I hope he's successful. There's no better takeaway from this this week in terms of an immediate policy response than ending the war in Afghanistan. I try to keep my politics separate from the stuff

that I write. The stories, because I think people like story, people want story and you know, if they want the news they want to, you know, the stuff, they can go on and get on MSNBC, or they can go on Fox or whatever. But sometimes life comes along and imitates art steady the other way around. And as I was rewriting this book, all at once I find out Unlocking little Kids up in caging on the border, and I'm thinking to myself, this type my book. Wow, that's

Stephen King. I've never read a Stephen King books. I'll just be honest, but I've never read a novel by Stephen King, so I can't speak to whether they're worthwhile or not. I know he's been very, very very successful financially,

he sold a lot of books. But I thought that was it was interesting one that you catch this with a lot of a lot of liberals out there in the entertainment media, where they say, well, you know, I understand I should be entertaining people, but then I something so important comes along, something so important comes along that I had to just make a connection to politics. I

couldn't stand back from it. And I tell you, these days, I just don't even want to know sometimes because it'll ruin something for me to find out that an individual involved in it. You know, we'll say, well, you know, I don't even clearly in the Trump era. This is why we need to know, you know, it's always this is why I won't watch the what's the show where the women go around and the bonnets, you know, because they're all they're all super oppressed. They're actually oppressed, but

unlike women in America today. But you know, I'm talking about the show with the bonnets and the weird they look like a bunch of Puritans. Handmaid's Tale, the Handmaids. I refuse to watch it because it's all, oh, this is what would happen if Mike Pence were president. No, no, no, all right, let's not be completely insane. Like Pence is a very nice man, very nice family. He's not going to make America into the Handmaid's Tale. He couldn't even if he wanted to, and he doesn't want to. So

what are we even talking about? But I digress. Stephen King here is saying that, you know, he has a story and I don't even know what it is. That there's a crossover or there's a connection between you know, kids in cages and some of you who watched when I was on Bill Maher a few weeks or now about a month ago, and the former governor of Michigan, Jennifer Granholm, at one point just turn I was trying to talk to Bill about immigration and talk about it.

I wasn't. I wasn't, you know, shouting or being aggressive or anything. She just turned me and just yelled kids in cages, kids in cages, as though that was the argument ender that she had been looking for all night. And I looked at her, like, this person was a governor of a major state, Michigan, and we gotta have

a talk Michigan. Wherever you are, we gotta have a chat about how well, then again, you're probably like yahbo, you're in New York where the Cuomo's are a dynasty and they run everything, and if you don't like it, the lesser Cuomo will threaten to ruin your bleep and bleeping throw you down a flight of bleeping stairs because he's a bleeping CNN anchor. Do not call him Fraido. So I guess it's not fair to hold Michigan responsible for it's governor if we're not gonna hold New York

responsible for its governor. Governor Cuomo Oh my I feel like one day I'm gonna meet him and he's gonna be like, are you the one who does the very loud and stupid impersonation of me? Nobody needs a bazuka to kill a squirrel. We need bazuka reform. Now you'll remember that too. He didn't exactly say that. It's a little bit of exaggeration, but he did give quite a

speech about that back in the day. But you have Graham looked at me and said that about kids in cage and Stephen King is talking about how art imitates life or life imitates art or whatever it is with a book he wrote, and kids in Cages, And to this I always want to ask, and I really mean this, It would be an interesting exercise for me if I could get one of these libs that is so just freaked out about what's gone on in our southern border

with the enforcement of existing immigration laws. I would like to walk them through what is really happening there and ask what they think the policy should be, because I think what you would invariably find out from some very loud and opinionated leftists on the matter of immigration is that anything short of open borders is going to be insufficient for them, meaning any real enforcement of immigration laws

is unacceptable. But the moment you say to them, but you are four open borders, there's a no, I'm not no, of course not I can of that all right, Well, that means that people don't just get to show up, and not everyone who comes here, especially those who come here in violation of laws, are going to get to stay. And if they don't get to stay, that means you have to deport them. And if you're going to deport them, you have to detain them. If you're going to detain them,

you have to arrest them. And if you're going to arrest them, you do have to hold them in some form of restricted movement facility, which is going to involve fences or wires or walls or whatever. Not cages per se, but some form of restricted movement domicile. You're I have to or else. Well, we're on the honor system. Yeah, show up tomorrow. We're gonna have a bus here, and we're gonna deport you. If you don't show up, we're gonna find you. We're gonna ask you again. Because we

can't detain you, that's mean we can't hold you. In a facility that you don't want to be in, that's not comfortable, and where things you know aren't the way you'd like them to be. The reality when I was in the when I was at the border in at Tijuana and San Diego, Sport of Patrol told me that some of the illegals that would cross over and surrender,

remember that's illegal. You can't do that. It's cutting it's quite literally cutting the line because you're supposed to go to a port of entry and wait at that port of entry, and if there's too many people at the port of entry that day, you got to come back the next day. If you surrender, it means you just walk across the border and say here I am. That's illegal because we have a system, because there are rules.

But I remember the border patrol agents telling me in San Diego they would have a legal show up and would start demanding I mean they would demand food right away and they'd have to the border patrol aldience were being told, you know, so when are you when are you bringing me before they've even been processed, when are you bring him my food? As if they're like a maitre d service for illegal aliens I'm being serious. They told me that this happened. Oh wow, I mean that's you.

Don't You don't hear that story in the mainstream media, do you? Yeah? Going to McDonald's. I know, I know you're supposed to arrest me, because that's what you do when someone breaks the law for violating the sovereign territory of America and breaking US federal law, and they're supposed to arrest me. But really, I know that Pelosi and the Democrats and AOC are calling the shots here. So why don't you Border Patrol Go get me a McDonald's sandwich and I'll wait here. Thanks. That's a thing that

has happened. So while we're always being told how it's about kids in cages, Stephen King is claiming that he's clearly he's clearly making a comparison between a horror movie or horror book or whatever it is and the Trump administration. I just would like to know what is supposed Let's take the kids in cages out of the out of the equation for a second, because it has been out of the equation because they don't hold children separately from

their families anymore. What is the acceptable degree of enforcement of our border. What should the law say. Should the law be that anybody who shows up across our border just gets to stay? So oh no, no, no no, they have a process. Okay, what if they don't show up for the process, did they get to ported? And what if after they show up for the process, they don't get what they want, which is a legal claim to

stay in America? Do they don't get to bord? If you're going to keep saying no, then you're just you're you're at an open border status, and you should as a Democrat, as a lib and some Republicans like this stuff, you should just admit that. But they never have any answers about it. They just like the moral posturing of we don't want kids in cages, as Democrats Republicans do. They're the bad guys. Trump is the ultimate bad guy because of this. All right, Well, that has that policy,

which was just enforcing the laws on the books. And if anyone in this country gets arrested and they have a baby with them, you know what's going to happen. There's going to be a separation from that infant. There's going to be a separation from that child. That's what happens to citizens every day in this country, So there's a different set of laws I suppose we're supposed to accept for illegal aliens. I'm not there yet. I'm not

willing to just accept that. And I do think that if we were just able to have liberals sit down, if we could just talk to them a bit more about what it is that they really want to happen at the border, a lot of them would recognize that they've just been fed lies, and a lot of them would recognize that no, they're four open borders. At least

then we would have honesty. Right now, what we have is talking points, moral grandstanding, and people like Stephen King saying Trump has created a nightmare at our border, worthy of one of my books. It's just not true. There's also been when it comes to communities of immigrants and undercurrent of racism or nativism that was always under the surface to some degree. Not that that was unfelt by the people against whom it was directed, but at least

we attempted to form a more perfect union. We attempted to live by the ideals that were foundational with the country, that we're all created equal. We never quite got there, but we never stopped trying until now, where you have a president who is so openly nativist and racist. Betto just says the same thing every day. I don't know when he assumes that this is going to be profound. I don't know when he thinks this is going to be a thing that all of a sudden, We're going

to pay attention to. Betto. But this is the dumbest talking point that you will hear from the left. Is just some variation of OMG, Trump and the Republicans are so racist and this country has to deal with its legacy of racism, and let's just talk more about racism and how racist everything is. This is the most This is the most brainless thing that you will hear from all the Democrat candidates all the time. They just do different variations on the theme of, oh, well, all I

oppose racism, therefore I'm a good person. Republicans op post racism too. I've said this before, and I think that maybe it's doesn't really bear repeating on this show. But the truth is, because I've said it so many times, racism is anti conservative. You can't believe in individual dignity, individual rights that we are created in God's image and

then we are all equal as human beings. Things that you must think if you're a conservative, because if if that's not true true, then why do we have inalienable rights? Why are we created in God's image? I mean, if we're not all equal, then that doesn't make it, That doesn't make any sense. You have to believe that every individual human being is of equal worth as a human being to every other in the eyes of the law and in the eyes of God. Otherwise, what is conservatism

based on? Because why not just have us a superstate? Then? Because human beings have no inherent dignity, there's there's this separation based on where we're from and everything. No, it is anti conservative to be to be racist, and we've done so much in this country to overcome racism. And also, if we're going to really look at this for a moment, the truth is we actually get along really well as a country and as a country that is quite diverse. And I'm here in New York City and I'm walking

around on the streets, I'm on the subway. You see people from every kind tree, every color, ethnicity, race, you name it here and we're all just walking around doing our things. No one's stopping and noticing and oh, look at that person. That just doesn't happen here. It really feels like Beto O'Rourke and the Democrats on the race issue, it's like they've created a fake version of America, a version of America that's not what we're experiencing every day.

And this is why I think they've largely transitioned toe. I'm saying that the President is racist all the time, even though the President will say he's not racist. He believes all people are equal. He thinks that racism is terrible. I wish that they would stop lying about what he said at Charlottesville. They will not stop lying about it. This is now. It's an unfortunate case study in how repetition by an anti Trump media can overcome the fact just you can do it yourself. Look at the transcript

of what was said what Trump said in Charlottesville. No honest person could read that transcript and say, oh, he was praising white nationalists. He explicitly said I am not praising white nationalists. But but they still pretend that he was praising white nationalists. That's the storyline that you always get if racism in this country was so bad, maybe we wouldn't have so many race hoaxes that occur. As we know, this is a much greater frequency than the

lip media ever wants to admit to. If racism was so bad in this country, maybe they wouldn't have to manufacture evidence of it from the President and the Republican Party, which is what they do on a regular basis. But I sit here and I just say to you, I really hope that Peto Aurorica has gone soon because it's pathetic. Now.

It's not cute really anymore. It's not funny. I mean, I know I like to do the betto impression, but this is a guy who has abandoned any sense of decency and fairness in his campaign to the other side, to the other side's ideas, and it's just all it's

all posturing and nonsense, you know. I mean, this is a guy who, first of all, his whole affect of mbutu, no you're you're Robert Francis O'Rourke man like this This thing is is if he wasn't first of all, if he wasn't a Democrat, he would not it would not be okay from to pick up what would be considered an ethnic Latino name like this and use it. If you were a Republican, people would mock him for this, or they wouldn't even mock him. They would say it's

a problem. They would criticize him all the time. So you have to also remember that you have to keep that in mind. Here he gets a pass on this because I know we've been called it for a long time. Whatever, he still gets a pass on it because he is a Democrat, as we know. Speaking of Democrats, there's some movement here with Elizabeth Warren, who is all of a sudden. Here is what Jim Kramer over at CNBC had to say about a war in presidency from the perspective of

Wall Street guys. Why, look, I've gotta tell you, when you get off the desk you talk to executives, they're more fearful of her winning. I mean, I've never heard anybody say, look, she's gotta be stopped. She's gotta be stopped. I don't know. It's she's very she keeps going up through the poles, She's raised a ton of money. It's gonna win out. I believe she's a very compelling figure on the stump. By the way. I hear it too, And it's another reason why companies are being implored to

do things now. If you want to get something done, you really think M and A or anything, think about doing it soon, because come early to mid twenty twenty, if Eliza mclauren's rolling along, everybody's gonna be like, that's it. She You hearing it too? Oh yeah, I wonder what China says about that exact question. Oh yeah, boy, she is so anti pollution in China, they're all saying they're worried about Elizabeth Warren. I'm all street, I gotta tell you,

I'm I don't buy it. I don't buy it. I mean, maybe they're worried, but I don't think that they have anything really to be worried about. And here's why Elizabeth Warren is very much a transactional progressive. She's someone who has made a very nice living for herself as a law professor, making about a quarter million dollars a year. I think just to teach one class a week, that's

a nice gig I would take. You know, can't get fired making a quarter of a million dollars, getting up in front of a classroom and saying a bunch of stuff. It's probably not even particularly useful from a legal perspective, but you know, she's Elizabeth Warren, so first Cherokee law professor on the Harvard faculty. She had that going for, which is nice. But here's a reminder about the Democratic Party.

The Democratic Party is full of rich. There are plenty of rich people in Democratic part In fact, Wall Street overwhelmingly gives you the biggest firms Goldman, Saxons, they give to Hillary Clinton last time around. They're they're not. This is one of these myths that we have to deal with on the right that will never go away, and that is that the the rich are Republicans. It's just not true. There are rich people in both parties, right, oh,

the Republican billionaires funding everything they have. What about Soros? What about Tom stey Er, what about you know, go down the list, what about Oprah? What about Steven Spielberg? If you get all these people were fabulously wealthy, huge Libs, huge Libs. The Liberals have plenty, plenty of money. And yet we hear this story about how Wall Street is a Republican. Wall Street is in its politics left of center, and in it based on its giving. I mean, I'm

not guessing about this. This is where you know, this is where the money goes. And that's because, yeah, they don't want higher taxes, but the tax issue is less important than the regulatory climate and environment, and the very big firms just want to make sure that whoever wins, they're going to be taken care of. Big government loves

big business. Because big government sees big business as a means of instituting policies that it wants, it can make it complicit in the expansion of government in many ways. And remember the regulatory burden, a lot of the anti competitive measures that come into play when you're talking about a big government apparatus, which is what Elizabeth Warren. We already have too much of that, but Elizabeth Warren would want you dramatically expanded. But Goldman Sachs is going to

make plenty of money no matter what. Goldman Sacs employees are gonna go home with fat paychecks regardless of what Elizabeth Warren says, she wants to do whatever tax she puts in place, And there are a lot of ways I think that you could argue that the people that are going to get hurt are those who are trying to be up and comers, going to be competitors. They're the ones that have the deal with Oh now there's

all these new accounting regulations. Now there's all these new you know, legal and administrative hurdles to trying to compete with some of these megabanks. But the megabanks, the mega corporations. But look at that you've got. Ge was practically a subsidiary of the Democratic Party for years, for years, Goleman, Sachs Democrats. I mean, if you find me Facebook Google, these are these are Democrat companies. You know, where's the where's this evidence that you would think would exist of

republican Republican Party dominance in the corporate sphere. It's just not there. I wish, you know, I wish that we could get past this. But they'll continue to say this, Elizabeth Warren will do Wall Streets bidding, because Elizabeth Warren is gonna want powerful influential people and she's gonna make a show of doing bad stuff to Wall Street. Oh you know, she's going to clean it up and everything else.

That's all crap. And think about it this way. Think about this, what's happened to the health insurers post Obamacare. Have they have? They all gone bankrupt. Oh, but the Democrats talk about how they hate the big bad health insurers. Oh, they're terrible. They're taking all the profits. Actually, their profits percentage wise are relatively small. But you know, I'm not somebody that loves the health insurance companies. I think they do do some shady stuff sometimes. That said, they're a

bad guy according to Democrats. And yet have you seen the health insurers suffering a lot of pain? And no, they did Obama's you know, they agreed to go along with Obama's whole Affordable Care Act disaster as long as they got theres as long as they got paid backstopped you know, by the taxpayer, and forced forced people to become customers of theirs. So they were finally that So that's that's a perfect example what I'm talking about. Yeah,

Elizabeth Warren is gonna come together. She's gonna say, oh, I'm gonna reform, I've gotta reform Wall Street. And I shound like someone has grabbed a turkey by the neck and is waving it around. You know, squawk, squawk man. She is not charming. She really isn't. It is not charismatic, forget charming, whatever you want to say. But she's gonna make this big show of how much she's gonna, you know, rock wall streets world that the truth is she's gonna

do some things. But then wall st will say, Okay, we'll go along, but then leave us alone and let us make our big profits, you know, maybe even give us some way to get in on transactions that the government is you know, forcing the government's making people engage in whatever that may be. So I gotta tell you there's there's this there's this storyline out that the Democrats tell themselves that, oh, we're going to be able to reform. You know, Democrats don't like big money in politics. That's

that's just a lie. Oh we want to reform, we want we don't want dark money and politics. Oh, they're all about it. Elizabeth Warren's a perfect example. Oh here's a great one, Elizabeth. Well, you know what, let me hit this when I come. I've got I got to tell you a little Elizabeth Warren fundraising story that that's a perfect example of exactly what I'm talking about. Hold on, I'll come right back. Stay with me. So I was

going on a little bit of Elizabeth Warren ran. I think it's important because I believe that's where I'm putting my money for the Democrat nominee. I think it's gonna be Warren. I still I'm still standing firm on my it will not be Biden. But there was a story from the New York Times No Less a couple of days ago how Elizabeth Warren raised big money before she denounced big money. Oh look at this. It's exactly the

hypocrisy that I'm talking to you about. So back in twenty eight or twenty eighteen Senate race, she was doing what Democrats do, going to very rich people and saying, you write me a check. That's my Elizabeth Warren impersonation. It's like Hillary but louder Hello. She wanted wealthy people to write her checks for her race then, and guess and so she went to people that are, you know,

the high rollers, the big dollar donors. And now she's talking about how she's only a grassroots funded campaign, they're not taking big dollar donations. But guess what, she's a total hypocrite because she's using ten point four million dollars that she's rolling over from her twenty eighteen Senate race to underwrite her twenty twenty presidential bid. So I mean, but this is a classic moment of exactly what I'm

talking about. Warren is going around on the stump saying that, you know, people shouldn't be able to shouldn't be reliant on big dollar donors, and oh, the wealthy and the elite are just buying everyone off and blah blah blah, all this crap. And it turns out that back in twenty eighteen, she was raising money bite doing exactly that, and she's using that money now to fund her campaign. So this would be like if I was running around saying, hey, hold on a second, you can't rob a bank and

then use that money to fund your political campaign. You can't do that. That's terrible. And people were like, well, Buck, you robbed the bank a couple of years ago and you're using that money. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, but that was then. This is now. What do we always say defining character ristic of the contemporary liberal is just unbridled hypocrisy, hypocrisy that is punch you in the face, obvious hypocrisy from which there is no escape, and you

come away from it thinking how could they? How could they expect any person to take their word on any of this, given how obvious it is that what they say is so different from the way that they themselves act, whether it's on money and politics, on climate change, on you know, the education system, on you know, immigration, in all these areas where whenever you see libs out there who are professing how much they care about an issue, it's not a surprise at all to find out that

if there's any sacrifice involved in really doing something about that, they're not going to do that. They just want other They want to talk about it, they want other people to do it. Elizabeth Warren raised tons of money from rich people, and now she's saying other candidates are relying on rich people for their donations. He's using rich people money and saying it's bad. She's a huge fraud, folks, a fraud, and not just because of the fake Indian stuff.

She's a fraudt not bringing a house back to August to keep the we did the Senate was supposed to come back. Why does you all get that straight? Because the Senate did not come back to pass the bill. I'm getting very angry about the word silliness of these questions, why is there at stake Senator McConnell was standing in the way. We passed our bill in February. Members had events all over the country to ask him to bring up the bill. Don't ask me what we haven't done.

We have done it. And if you are annoying, it's my impatience. It's because people are dying. But the Senator McConnell hasn't acted. Why don't you go ask him if he has any regrets to all the people who died because he hasn't packed do what the Democrats say on gun control, or you don't care about people dying, same argument every time ever, really seems to change very much.

That's what we keep getting told that you do with the Democrats want you to do, or you don't care about dead children, you don't care about gun violence, you're a bad person. And they wonder why we don't trust them for any kind of middle of the middle of

the road solutions. They say that we're terrible people if we don't do exactly what they say, and then we're supposed to believe that if we gave them more power, say with red flag laws or any number of these other restrictions, that they talk about that that would somehow result in Democrats being more fair minded about this. I think that that's just silly. I think that's entirely unrealistic. But President Trump is still out there talking about this,

still discussing this as a possibility. I'm not really sure what Trump's Trump's plans are here. We're looking at background checks, and we're looking at putting everything together in a unified way so that we can have something that's meaningful. At the same time, all of us want to protect our great Second Amendments, so important to all of us. So we are now in meetings. The meetings are going to go in tonight. I'm going to speak with them again tomorrow.

And I think progress is being made, I hope. So I'm not sure that I actually scratch that. I'm pretty sure that we don't want this kind of progress to be made because it's not progress. I haven't heard a single policy that would be that would be a good idea from the perspective of ending gun violence. There's nothing that I listened to and I say, oh, yeah, that that's In fact, there's a terrifying idea that's out there right now called Harpa and this is just astonishingly bad.

It's going to be the what the Health Advanced Research Project I mean, yeah, the Health Advanced Research Project Agency sort of like DARPA, but for health. And they say they want to here we go. Former NBC Chairman Bob Wright, a longtime friend that associated President Trump's, has brief top officials, including the President, the vice president, and Ivanka Trump, on a proposal to create a new research agency called HARPA to come up with out of the box ways to

tackle health problems, much like DARPA does for the military. Say, several people who have been briefed, Yeah, we're gonna have some new agency that looks into this and tries to come up with something that how many debates, now, how many times have we had to have it out in public over whether or not there's there's a way to make this stuff, make mass murder with firearms more illegal

than it already is. It's already very, very illegal. But this HARPA organization would be out there looking at ways that you could try to intervene in, specifically the realm of mental illness. Anyone who thinks that the government would ever be able to monitor mental health accurately enough that they would they could intervene to stop a mass shooting and not create a near totalitarian surveillance state for everybody

who has any form of mental illness. And really, when we talk about mental illness, there is there's mental illness. Mental health is something that everyone struggles with, and I think this is often lost in the conversation. Everyone listening

to this has at one time or another. Most likely some of you perhaps are perfect and had at least a little bit of what could be considered depression, a little bit of the symptoms of anxiety, a little bit of undue stress in your life that cause anxiety symptoms,

and then you get too well. Is it at a level that's clinical where you have to go see you have to go seek professional help and support, And you know people do this, whether it A lot of people do this for you know, marital counseling will do this, for alcohol abuse, they'll do this. These are all mental health related issues. So when you say monitoring people for mental health, this is such a broad spectrum of things that the government would have to be looking at. It involved,

and it's just it's absolutely insane. No serious person can believe, no serious person should believe that there's a way to monitor the mental health of the American people and prevent somebody base based on that monitoring program, from taking violent action because of their mental illness. You have tens of millions of people in this country with diagnosed mental illnesses

of one kind or another. Yes, PTSD is classified as a mental illness, anxiety disorders, depression, obsessive compulsive disorder, bipolarity. There's all these different things out there that people deal with. Some of its genetics, some of its situational, and the stigmatization that it seems the Democrats are willing to engage in now just because they're so set on getting new gun laws. Past just goes to show you. I think that they were never serious about any of this in

the first place. They were never serious about reaching out and having laws that could stop people from engaging in mass shootings that also respect civil rights, that all so respect privacy and dignity of individuals. They're just looking for the political leverage in the moment to get what they want, which is some form of restrictions on guns. That's it. Everything else is noise. Everything else is just filler. So you know, I don't think the Democrats come to this

issue with any good faith. I don't think that it's really about ultimately stopping gun violence, because if it was, then we've been focused on handguns and inner city crime. If it was really about stopping gun violence, that's where the push would be. No, it's on mass shootings and assault rifles, which are rare, meaning mass shootings statistically speaking, at a small percentage of the overall gun violence problem in this country. So we will keep having this. I

don't know why Trump. Well, I'm hoping that he's doing a little bit of you know, ropodope here. You know, is okay, sure, we'll talk, we'll talk, we'll talk, and then when the Democrats, you know, when their audiences and their instituents are tired of the same talking points, we can move on to something else. If they had a good idea, I'd be open to it. They don't have good ideas. They just have status takeover. I don't like that.

And I'm also sick of being told all the time that because look, let's be honest, the conservative side keeps winning this argument on the merits over the gun control case that they make. They don't understand these weapons, they don't know the laws that are already on the books. They don't understand or care much for Second Amendment jurisprudence. They keep losing the argument and then just they want to shout at us and tell us, well, it doesn't

matter that they lose the argument. They still they still should be able to get whatever they want from a policy perspective. And to this, I just say, I just say no, sorry, not signing up for that. Not okay with being emotionally ambushed and bludgeoned by the left every time there's a very bad thing that happens in this country. When it to gun violence, which is unfortunately going to happen, there's no there's no way around this. There's going They're

going to be shootings. There are three hundred and thirty million people in this country. There are going to be shootings. What laws do we have and how well do we enforce those laws? That's a question to ask. Enough concerned that we're making ducto, we treated fairly well. They become very rich companies very fast. And the whole thing with vaping is is a very profitable and I want companies. Look, you know that I fight for our companies very hard.

If I fight That's why I'm fighting with China. That's why I'm fighting with other countries. If you look at European Union, and if you look at Japan, and if you look at so many others, including South Korea and many others, were constantly dealing with them to make it good for our companies because I view it as jobs. I viewed as in them for our country and jobs. Vaping has become a very big business, as I understand it, like a giant business in a very short period of time.

But we can't allow people to get sick, and we can't have our youth be so affected. Looks like they're getting ready for a band, folks. The Trump administration no less. Now we must adhere to principle. We have to be honest here. This is a little This attrikes me as a little a little nanny state, like maybe very Nanni state. Like. I cannot get behind this. I have never smoked a cigarette, I have never vaped, but I just don't I don't

see why this is the answer. I know a lot of people who use vaping because it's less dangerous, it's less problematic than say the actual traditional cigarettes, old school cigarettes, and people this uh current frenzy seems to be around individuals who have died. I don't know how many ROSA mark, how many vaping deaths have there been. Let me just be clear, I think it's very few. Overall. Wall Street Journal says doctors and officials urge people to stop vaping.

Hundreds of potential cases of pulmonary illnesses. Six deaths, six deaths have been associated with this with this illness. And my understanding of this so far, and they're still figuring this out, is that they think that there's a an issue here with THHC lace products. I think essentially black market versions of these products that have gotten out there,

and that may be the cause of this. I've got to tell you, you you know, six from the many, many people that are used this across the country, that doesn't seem like. Look, I'm just gonna say that six people dying from an illness related to something doesn't strike me as in and of itself a crisis. It strikes me as something worthy of inquiry and investigation. And I'm not like, I'm not a pro vaping guy. I don't vape myself.

I just know that there's no way in my mind. Okay, let's just let's just back this up for a second. There's no way that vaping isn't at least better for you than smoking old school tobacco. I mean, producer Mark, am I missing something? Does anyone think that? I mean, it's water vapor. How can that be anywhere near as bad for you as burning tobacco leaves and inhaling acrid smoke all the time. It could be something in the vapor that's making people sick, but it's I don't think

it's as bad. But I mean, if it's causing some certain lung diseases, I see why the alarm. No. Look, I'm not saying there shouldn't be alarm, But to me, a nationwide ban on this strikes because think of how many people might use this stuff and then it might be vaping and that's going to prevent them from getting lung cancer. You know, when you start to look at the aggregate benefit of something that is safer than what you know, the alternative is. I just don't see it.

I don't understand why they want to ban it. I look, I know they're saying, they're saying that there's a you know, what do you call it? There's h it is a gateway where we always hear about this. This is a gateway, and that's why they have all these flavors like you know, bubble yum and pomegranate and all this stuff. This is what we keep hearing about, is that we don't want

kids to be vaping, which is probably true. But if we're going to have this discussion, I think we also have to have a discussion about we don't want kids to be drinking either. You know, we don't want people to be doing these things. We just don't. So are we gonna you know, bands are a bad idea, You're going to force this underground and if in fact it's from faulty products. Now people are saying, oh, buck, but what about you know, what about people that are taking fentonel.

You know, I'm not saying banning anything is a bad idea, but there's there's not enough evidence yet that this is dangerous. This is dangerous at a level where a band is required, I think we'll do more harm, more harm than good. And if it is in fact the case that you have black market vaping products, and that's what the essentially faulty products out in the system are what is really causing these illnesses, the few hundreds of illnesses, and then

people with six people that have died. Then by banning, you're just going to increase the black market. And people seem to really like this. That's why it's a big business. And you know, Jewel and these other companies continue to make a lot of money doing this. So I just don't I don't see how the ban is going to be a good idea. And I'm a little surprised that this is the response you're getting from from President Trump. You don't producer mark, You don't smart smart, You don't.

You don't smart, do you? You don't never never smarked in your life. No, I don't smoke either. Have you ever smoked a cigarette? No? I never would. It never appealed to me. I mean, I had a lot of friends. I knew a lot of girls growing up. We were teenagers who smoked Marlborough retts. They were getting after it with Marlborough rets. That's that's some pretty strong stuff. I also remember being a teenager here in New York City and and going out to bars and nightclubs, believe it

or not, in my teens. Um, you're from around here, so you know that's that's not that weird. But I think if I ever walked into a bar and saw a bunch of fifteen year olds and sixteen year olds in there, I'd be like, what is this place nowadays? Yes? Yeah, exactly, that needs to be very normal. Yeah, were at fake IDs.

Everybody would go into these places here in New York City and you walk everybody would be in high school taking shots at tequila and getting into bar fights, which really just involved like grabbing each other and fall into the ground and being like you stop it, mean person. In our fights, Catholic school fights were not usually particularly badass. But anyway, the smoking band that Bloomberg, I'm just gonna say it, when Bloomberg enacted that smoking band, this is

where this is where my nanny state kicks in. And I'm like, you know, I kind of like it. I liked it. Change the city it was, it was better. And I know that you could argue, oh, but what about establishments that are that want to do it differently? And I understand that I'm violating principle and I own that. I own it, But I also think that there was a little bit of a war in restaurants between the

smokers and the non smokers. And you know, you had one group of people that really believed very very strongly that should be able to smoke at a restaurant. So everybody else has to smell their smoke, and and it's a physical compulsion. Obviously any of other people who really didn't want to be smelling that. It just wasn't. It wasn't a recipe for anyone to be happy. It really wasn't.

It's a bad move. To this day, you can't walk down the street without smelling cigarette smoke somewhere, and weed smoke. I'm shocked by how often a lot of smoke you're in New York. Yeah, and the cops do nothing about it. Now, I guess it's not a felin man. Sometimes it's like the weed brownies. And like weed cookies, you don't smell those. Though you don't smell him, you taste him. It taste delicious. Man, he's getting the back of a little weed truck. You're like, hey,

do you have like a blondie with the weed? Anyway? I wonder if they're really going to go forward this band. It strikes me as a bad idea, but you know what, we do have to find out more of what's by the way, you know what else we never found out about. If we're talking about mysterious illnesses, that are people dying from from mysterious circumstances. Whatever happen they did Medican Republic. Did we lose like nine Americans there dying from? No

one knew what they thought. Maybe it was bootleg liquor. I had to change my whole honeymoon because I did you really. Yeah, we were originally going to dr got a great deal and then my soon to be wife was like, Nope, not doing it and not taking the risk. Now we're going to Jamaica. Yeah, you and a lot of other people. Yeah, they lost a lot of money. I can imagine. Well, we'll see if this band goes through. I hope it doesn't because I don't like banning products

that come with stated risks. But we'll see. We'll be right back with Roll Call. Hey, team bug, it's time for Roll Call game. We are gonna do a double sesh of the Roll Call tonight just because I feel like it, just because I figure I want to hear from all of you on this day that a day of remembrance. You know, what do we do? How do we refer to it obviously refer to as nine a love in September eleventh. That's I suppose it is a day,

just a day of national remembrance. Um, sadness in rage are the main things that I tend to conjure up when I think about it. But I want to know what all of you are thinking, and so with that in mind, I will get to the roll call Facebook dot com, slash buck sex. Then I'm every day I'm gonna keep saying, why don't we get our email producer Mark? Do we know no update yet? Who do? Who? Do I have to like pay off? Here? You know what? What? What wheels do I have to grease? I'm going to

send an email right now. I will, I will, I will, But you can grease my wheels anytime. Hey now, I will, I will. You know, bribe people with bagels, with croissant, with Danish, whatever it may be. I just hired a personal trainer. Don't do that, He'll yell at me. Oh good for you, though, dude, I've been thinking about doing the same thing. Maybe we'll start working out together. What do you think team buck workouts? We could live stream that stuff. Man, you might kill we'd be like Hans

and Franz. My name is producer Mark and I'm host Buck and I'm here to pomp you up. We could do that sure viral content. It's worth worth. I'm just saying it's worth thinking about. All right, another time, Well, when's the wedding by the way, No, damn soon. That's why I hired the personal training. It's go. Time's time. Yeah you should. When you do the walk down the aisle, do it, you know, walking like a handstand like that. I'll have some dumbells in my hand out there exactly exactly.

You know. I hear that it's very fashionable now to do your wedding wearing athletic attire. So that's what I've heard too, exactly. So yeah, Lula Lemon makes a lovely tux. All right, Uh, what have I been talking about here? We've got the things, We've got all of the discussions to be at your Facebook dot com slash buck Sexton. Two weeks actually less than two weeks until you can start downloading the Buck Sexton Show at three Eastern every

day on podcast. So I would recommend that you at least subscribe that way if you are ever late on your radio station, or you're not in the car, or you want to listen on your own time. You can listen that away, and I would very much appreciate it if you would. So, even if you're a radio listener, go on iTunes, type in the Buck Sexton show in the search bar, and we roll from there. Thomas rides Buck. My wife and I were on vacation and missed a

few days of your show. When we got back home, I told her you were we were going to binge listen to you. To my comments, she said, Buck that I'm sure you've heard that one before. Shields High Well funny, but can't we get her to maybe listen to the old shows with you? Because I feel like that's that's the best way that this should go. I mean, that would be my if you're asking me what my preference is,

that's my preference. That's how you guys would catch up. No, we want them to listen on different iPhones or different exactly multiple iPhones and get other family members to join in. Have a whole buck listening part. Thomas just watched a merit ups now that was old. Sorry, hey Bock, thanks for keeping us warm and safe at night or safe and warm at night. You must add one more place to your list of flip flop acceptable places, which could

be seen as a New Yorker looking down on casual fashion. Whoai. In Hawaii, they're called slippers and are worn everywhere all the time, So please don't discount the Hawaii slipper legitness. Hawaii actually has a completely different fashion sense from the mainland, So there's that disclosure. My wife was born and raised there, Thomas Oss. Well, Thomas, let's just let's revisit what I said. I said that there are only certain places going to the pool, going to the beach. Hawaii is essentially one

giant beach. Wherever you are in Hawaii, you are within striking distance of a beautiful beach. So yes, of course, if you are a resident of the state of Hawaii and you choose to wear flip flops wherever you go, you are theoretically on route to the beach. It's just to question how long it takes you to get there. Whereas if you are a resident of the great state of Iowa and you were wearing flip flops in November, to me, you should probably put shoes on. I'm just

putting it out there. I think. I think that's the way I used to walk around New York City and flip flops. I'll tell you this is the truth. I don't know why. I just used to think that it was kind of cool to just kick around on my flip flops, and then I realized that my feet were getting dirty. And all it takes, and this is going to get gross, but I'm giving you a public safety announcement.

All it takes is stepping into one gross huddle of stuff with a flip flop on instead of a shoe, and then going home and thinking like, oh, I wonder if flesh eating bacteria maybe seeped into this blister that I have, or oh like maybe the chemicals that my foot has been subjected to from the New York City streets will slowly erode it until there's nothing but a nub left. You know, these are the thoughts you have so you don't want to go flip flopping around New

York City streets? Am I right? Producer Mark, I don't even like to touch a subway pull without using hand sanitizer afterwards. Never mind my foot. You're a man after my own heart, dude. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about that's for sure. Let's see here, Dale Rights hey Buck, I actually ask for a stand up desk at work. I've had it for two weeks and love it. I feel my productivity is up and I don't get fatigued like I thought I would standing up most of the day.

Getting the right matt to support your feet is very important. I would highly recommend you give it a shot. I'd like to. I just think I'm gonna whimp out, but I don't know. Maybe I'm gonna get a standing desk, And in fact, it would be great to get a standing desk sponsor. So maybe I'll reach out to the sponsor and say, hey, I'm gonna start using your standing desk, and if I like it, I'll tell every but on Team Buck to buy it. I think that's the plan.

I think that's what we should do. But yes, indeed, having better posture is important. That's also something that we've all learned. That's another real, a real thing. Harry hey Buck. Trump's tweet advocating zero or negative interest rates is very disappointing. It leads one to begin to believe he doesn't know as much about the economy and finance as he would have us think superficially what he tweeted makes sense, but in the long run it will destroy the American dollar

and economy. Have you been reading what your friends at Stansbury and others have to say about ZERP and NERP shields high, Harry. I read a lot of Stansbury stuff, but I have not read about ZERP and NERP. I don't know. I am assuming that's zero interest rate policy and near I don't know what neutral interests. I don't know what NERP is old on. Let me let me do a quick let's see what it says about NERP. Negative interest Okay, negative interestrate policy and zero interest rate policy.

That makes sense? Yeah, now, I haven't reputs Deansbury says about that, so I should check that out. Run now right, Love the show, Buck, love the show. Any thoughts on the Vatican saying no communion for pro abortion politicians. I haven't seen this, Ronald, But that's what the Vaticans should do. That should be the response. If you're a politician and you say you're a Roman Catholic and you are pro abortion, they should say no, I'm sorry, you're you're outside the

community now or else? What's the point of having any of these rules, Like, what's the point of any of this if we're just gonna say, yeah, everything's fine. Remember, it's one thing to engage in wrong action yourself. We are all sinners, we are all fallen, we all make mistakes. It's another thing to openly advocate for what is evil as though it were good, as though it's a right, and to have power to enact that beyond even just the platform of spreading that wrongness. So yeah, I think

that that's I think that's real. I think, Ronald, that they should all of a sudden, you to have Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden, and they're a bunch on that would be left sans communion. Now, I also think that they wouldn't really care all that much except for how it affects them politically. I know I'm making a judgment about how Catholic they are, but Nancy Pelosi doesn't strike me as a as a deeply religious person. I think

she thinks that it's necessary for her political brand. But I believe that there are a lot of politicians who look down on truly religious people, and they think that they're really that the politicians are engaged in a necessary ruse. Essentially, they are fooling people that need to be fooled in order for the politicians to get away with what they're doing. That's the plan, that's what they do. Jane Right's listening to Beto today, I'm reminded of Jim Rouse's dream for Columbia, Maryland.

Columbia is now one of the richest places in the metropolitan area. They are gradually pushing the middle class out. Well, I gotta take your word for I don't know anything about Columbia, Maryland, so sounds like a thing that's happening. I don't know. I do know that New York City gets more expensive all of the time, all the time, and that just seems like it's not possible, Like, how is it that New York could just continuously be more and more expensive? But that's that is in fact where

we are. Am Ethan right Buck. I couldn't agree more with your feelings on Red Eye. Absolutely fantastic show. I got hooked on it in two thousand and eight while station in Korea because it was on at five pm there, so I'd catch it like almost every day after work. Greg Gutfeld's show now is good, but it's no Red Eye. John Bolton wasn't just a guest. He was actually named the president of Red Eye. Look, I gave him credit last night on Y's show. I think that Bolton, you know,

and I want to be very clear about this. I don't think that John Bolton is anything but a patriot and and somebody who thinks that he's doing a lot of good in the world. And he's a smart guy. He's a knowledgeable guy. You know. I'm not somebody who trashes Bolton the person. I think Bolton is wrong on some things, or perhaps a bit stronger on some things than is wise. And I think that he's not a good choice for this administration. But you know, John Bolton,

I've I've interacted with him. He's always been a perfect gentleman. He was funny on Red Eye, and he's very smart, and I believe that he thinks he's serving his country in the best way possible. He's not a bad guy. So I think right now there's a lot of oh, because there's a little bit of a of a spat between Trump and him, a lot of people are pushing him, you know, under the bus. I don't think that that's I don't think it's fair to say that he's a

bad guy. I think it's fair to say he's wrong or he's he has been wrong on some key issues. And you know, we thank him for his service, but it's time for him to, you know, teach at university and write books and hang out. That would be mine no more, no more John Bolton positions of authority. You know, if we get invaded by the North Koreans Wolverines, some of you will catch that reference, actually almost all of you will. Then maybe we bring Bolton back and say

that it's it's go time. Keith. Right, thanks for all you do. Come to Austin again, bro Shields High Well, Keith, I haven't been to Austin yet, so I'm working on it. I have a wonderful audience down there. KLBJ. Austin I hear from a lot of you. Austin is the city that I dream of moving to one day. There's a few of them. Austin would be a lot of fun. Charleston would be a lot of fun. But for now,

I'm a I'm a city dog fighting the Libs. Fighting the Libs here from n why see, and that is how we go That is how we roll It's what we do here in the freedom und all right, Oh wait, we got to take a moment to catch our breath before we continue with your wonderful, insightful quips on roll call. We'll be right back, and we're back with Oh, this is the Buck Sexton Show. In case you didn't know if you got to this point, he didn't know that that would be kind of a surprise. But here we are, Kathy,

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that app within a couple of weeks. So it's the Pluto TV app. Get it, Get it started to just download it on your smartphone, folks. Doesn't cost you a dime, and it's not just my show. There's other stuff that you can watch too if you want so. Yes, indeed, Brian right, I wonder how upset Betet would be if I set up a trailer in his yard. Well, Brian, that's what you keep seeing with all these libs. They pretend like they want poor people living next to rich people,

but never them. They don't want it. You know. It's the same with refugees. Oh, America should take in just as many refugees as want to come here, but they can't go to the schools of the rich Libs that say that, no, no, no, no no. They have to go to schools with people who are working class. They have to go into neighborhoods where people work very hard to try to save up more money, moved to a

bigger house, being a better school district. Those are the people that end up getting refugee populations, generally speaking, you know, distributed there by the federal government. It's not happening in a Nancy Pelosi's neighborhood in San Francisco, that's for sure. Or not, they're not putting them up in mansions. Pelosi would not would not approve Kyle rights Buck. I've got a strong stomach. But the segment you did on the twenty eight week elective abortion made me a bit queasy.

I remember feeling a kick through my wife's stomach at twenty three weeks, and I just can't imagine someone waiting another five weeks to kill the baby for their own personal convenience. I know it's a hyperbolic statement, but I don't know how it is to classify that action as other than murder. I hope that in one hundred and fifty years, Americans will look back on Roe v. Wade the same way we look back on dread Scott. That case is a stain on the moral fabric of our country.

Anyone who reads the majority opinion of that case should be disturbed by the parallel lines of logic in it that exists in the modern pro choice movement. Kyle, I think you're absolutely correct. I actually found out from some of them very close to that someone that he's very close to was born three months premature, born at six months, and survived in its perfect healthy and happy and fine today. Pretty remarkable. Yeah, I get Look, look, we always you

say what is good. When it is good, you give credit where it is due in the instance that is that is appropriate. You know, Tulsie Gabbard. At least she's willing to say third trimester abortion is not okay. I give her credit for that. I mean, she's gonna get crushed by the left for it. But that's where we are. Benny rides Buck. I laughed out loud when I saw the new James Bob Vaniette aka Valerie planes Ad, but it was also sobering because she made a provably false

statement in response to Scooter Libby. What I don't understand is how the vast majority of Democrats are able to lie with such impunity, i e. Pelosi, Nadler, Schumer, etc. My moral compass does not allow me to state that something is true when it obviously isn't. How do they do this? If you watch any of the liberal punnits on Fox, they're also guilty. And I can't fathom how liberals are able to throw their reputations away so flippantly.

She'll tie Benny in Mississippi, Benny in Mississippi. I don't know if that was close enough to was that did that across? Yeah? Too many syllables for Benny. All right, Well, we tried, team. We're gonna have a great show tomorrow. And the next day, so be sure to tune in, then talk to you. Then you know what comes next. She'll tie