2020: Socialism Vs. Capitalism

Sexton Show. This is the buck Sexton Show, where the mission or mission is to decode what really matters with actionable intelligence. Mag Noo, mistake America, You're a great American Again. The buck Sexton Show begins now. First of all, I wanted to let the people to say Vermont know about this first. And what I promised to do is as I go around the country is to take the values that all of us in Vermont are proud of, belief injustice,

in community, in grassroots politics and town meetings. That's what I'm going to carry all over this country. I think the current ocument of the White House is an embarrassment to our country. I think he is a pathological lawyer. Every day he is telling one lay or another, and it gives me no pleasure to say that. But I also think he is a racist, a sexist, a homophobe, a xenophobe, somebody who is gaining cheap political points by

trying to pick on minorities off an undocumented immigrants. Bernie Standers is running out, that's right. First of I think he missed his time. But I like Bernie because he's he is one person that you know on trade, he sort of would agree on trade. I'm being very tough on trade. He would solf and trade. The problem is he doesn't know what to do about it. We're doing something very spectacular on trade. But I wish Bernie well. It'll be interesting to see how he does. I think

what happened to Bernie maybe was not so nice. I think he was taking advantage of he ran great four years ago and he was not treated with respect by Clinton, and that was too bad. I thought what happened to Bernie Sanders four years ago was quite sad as it pertains to our country. So we'll see how he does. You get a lot of people running, but only one person's going to win. I hope you know who that person is. Good bye, everybody. Oh yeah, welcome to the

Buck Saxon Show. Everybody. President Trump never lacking in confidence, and you can tell he doesn't even phaze him that Bernie. And I don't like this version of Bernie. I like the one who's all the millionaires and the billionaires and we're gonna make everybody can free this and free that. Then it's gonna be unicorns and rainbows. It's gonna be amazing, and only super rich people are gonna pay. I don't like the Bernie that's talking about how Trump is so

evil and bad and that's not fun Bernie. And unfortunately that's where the Democratic Party is, and you get a sense of one Trump realizes that they're just gonna throw so much it's not even worth him responding all that much to it. Although I know the Trumpster is gonna he's gonna put out some haymakers on Twitter. Here, he's gonna he's gonna lay down the lay down the pain on Twitter for bat candidates as he as he deems fit.

But there's also this little crossover between and I remember it from the primary, between Bernie Sanders and Trump voters. Because the Democratic Party on trade and on immigration has has sold out the working class, and Bernie Sanders knows this. And it's really the far left of the Democratic Party that supports Bernie Sanders that on this one issue has a whole lot more sense than the establishment than the

kind of Hillary Clinton. Now Corey Booker, Kamela Harris Wing of the Democratic Party, Kamela, by the way, came out. She was asked about this straight up. Are are you, because she's a top contender on the Democrat side, are you a socialist? Here is what she said, Play fifteen. Bernie Sanders describes himself as a Democratic socialist to compete in New Hampshire in the Democratic primary, Jeff to move

more toward the Democratic socialist part of the party. Well, the people of New Hampshire will tell me what's required to compete in New Hampshire. But I will tell you I am not a Democratic socialist. Also, I think that answer is kind of weird that people will tell you what is required to compete there. No, I think you tell them what your ideas are and then they vote. I don't think that. I think that she got a little but I digress. But she's not a Democratic socialist.

He says, Well, that's interesting because her party is a party of democratic socialism. This is what people don't want to say in the media. They don't want to go there, but it has happened. I think that Bernie Sanders as much as he's probably too old to be doing this or why is that so wrong to say there's a constitutional restriction on being too young to run for president.

I know we don't have one for being too old, but I also think the founding fathers probably never foresaw somebody who is going to be eighty in their first year as president. I don't think they thought that was a thing. But why is it? Why is that unfair? It wasn't an unfair conversation. It hasn't been an unfair

conversation in previous elections. And I think that Sanders is right at the if not beyond the red line, right at the red line, for there's a certain degree of energy and just day to day vitality that you're going to need to do this job. And Sanders may have missed his window. In fact, I think that Sanders feels from his supporters a a push into the into the race because they know that Warren is a non starter.

Warren was supposed to pick up the torch, you know, take up the mantle of Bernie Sanders going into twenty twenty. I don't think it's gonna happen. I think I think Warren is Her brand is just too damaged. It's too silly. Corey Booker with his IRB Spartacus. You know, the Democrats, they may they may warm up to him. I think that Corey Booker and producer Mike we can mark this one down. If you're asking me right now, who's gonna

win the Democratic nomination, I think it's Corey Booker. Really, I'm gonna chi, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna change this a bunch of times, and we'll play whichever prediction is right down the line, and we'll just pretend like the other ones didn't happen, because you know radio. But right now, if somebody, somebody tried to turn nail me down, I'd I'd say Corey book He's got the media, the elite left,

the establishment, they all like him. And I think that he could play reasonably well in Pennsylvania, in Ohio, in those states. So you know, Kamala Harris just doesn't have the doesn't have the retail politics skills. He pulled ahead of Hillary. For you who Hillary, I said, Booker, He's pulled ahead of Hillary. Huh in your hollow. I'm starting to walk. I'm starting to walk back from my She's running again. I think it's too crazy, even for her. Although you see that there's a crazy I don't put

anything past the Clinton Michael. You know they they actually have a speaking engagement. I think in DC and I saw this. It could I didn't verify this, this could be fake, but you can get a I'm being serious. I did see a flyer for how you can get a great deal to go here Bill and Hillary Clinton speak. The tickets are they are originally two hundred dollars and now they're like one hundred and fifty or something, right, So they're gonna have to bust people in. They're gonna

pay them. Yeah, No, no one cares anymore. The Clinton say. This is why that when people talk about Trump and Moscow and the tower and all this stuff, the Clinton corruption is so brazen and so outlandish and so obvious that all these people, all these journo firefighter types out there in the journalist world who act like they care so much about conflicts of interest and the emoluments clause.

The Clintons ran a multi billion dollar influenced peddling empire out of the open, pretending that it was a charity and the press had no interest in digging into what was really going on here. Fifty million dollars spent on private jet travel, a private jet travel for the Clinton Foundation. Fifty million. You know, nobody, nobody, uh can fly commercial. They oft to fly private, the Clinton Foundation anyway, don't

even don't even get me started. I mean, that's why the people that are making all this noise about Trump and his dealings overseas, and at least Trump's running a business where people get a product, they buy an apartment, or they buy a stake or whatever it is. With the Clintons, you buy the perception of power. That's all

that they were selling. But let me get back into the Democrat race here, because you know, Kamala Harris is making this calculation that the Democratic Party is not yet a fully owned subsidiary of Bernie ink and the whole left wing democratic socialism wave. And I think she's wrong, and I think Bernie Sanders recognizes this, which sets up a truly a truly and I mean this word a people overuse it epic, but an epic political showdown in

twenty twenty over the future of the country. This is not John Carrey versus George Bush, which was kind of, let's be honest, kind of a potato potato. I know people are gonna get mad at me for saying that it's reality. This is Do you want a capitalist who approaches day to day issues with common sense the way a normal person would President Trump? Or do you want a pie in this guy democratic socialist who thinks climate change is an urgent national security threat, that redistributing wealth

makes people wealthier and it makes the country wealthier. And that's a real choice. And whether it's Bernie Sanders or another Democrat, I think that sanders Ism has one in the Democratic Party and it's not just going to be for the primary. I think that we are facing a question as a nation as to whether we are going to become a socialist country. Now Trump has stated, thank Hammin's We're never going to be a socialist country, and I hope he's right, and I know he's fired up

about this. But let's understand that Bernie, Hillary and Bernie in that line election that was meaningful for what the opposition is going to be that we face. Hillary represented that old Democrat party of the media props you up a lot of pay to play, a lot of access the establishment, and kind of this rickety, unsteady coalition of all these different groups identity politics groups and all the rest of it unions, and Hillary was just sitting atop

of that. Sandersism for the country is socialism is massive government spending is crippling you and your business with taxation and regulation, all with the promise that what you're going to get they call it Medicare for all. But let me tell you something, we'll be lucky if it's even Medicaid for all. And anyone with any familiarity about the Medicaid program knows you do not want to be on it if you have a choice. Doctors don't take it.

Top hospitals won't see you. There is a cost to this that the Democrats that the Bernie Sanders wing will not tell you about. They pretend that this is all just going to be better if it wasn't, because if it wasn't for those greedy, mean capitalist Wall Streeters Republicans. Even the Wall Street is a Democrat stronghold now they don't like the Wall Street is a Democrat subsidiary now. But I think Goldman Sachs was the single biggest contributor

to Hillary Clinton. I forget the exact staff, but it was one of the biggest contributors to Hillary Clinton's campaign of any private company might have been number one. But Bernie's Bernie's approach here is going to be the Democrat approach. So even if Sanders is too old, even if he can't win, even if he's not able to get through this incredible field of clowns that the Democrats have put forward, his ideology I think is going to be the Democrat

Party's ideology. Play eighteen. Many of the ideas that I talked about, Medicare for all, raising the minimum wage to fifteen dollars an hour, making public colleges and universities tuition free, all of those ideas. People say, oh, Bernie, they're so radical, they are extremely American. People just won't accept those ideas. Well, you know what's happened to over three years. All of those ideas and many more and now part of the

political mainstream. They are part of the Democratic Party mainstream. That is not a point that can be refuted. The Democrats have embraced this stuff. They have. They have seen the twenty two trillion dollars in debt. They've seen government in action over the course of decades to bloat, the corruption, the waste, to fraud, the abuse to spending, the regulations, the crushed dreams of business, businesses and entrepreneurs and innovators.

And they've seen all that. And their answer is more taxation, more regulation, a bigger state, heavier chains on all of us. That's their answer to this. And I think if we just look around our own hemisphere, we see what can happen when a government of social justice warriors decides that the wealth should be redistributed first and foremost, that is the single most important thing that the government can do.

This does not end well for us, my friends. This means also that not only is four more years of Trump going to be at stake, with all of his policies and promises and an agenda that I very much support and have signed on for for a long time now, but also the choice is not Trump or your run of the mill democrat. The choice is Trump or socialism. That's what we face. That is what has been said in motion right now, so get ready for the fight,

my friends. We'll be right back. And so as the United States stands up for democracy in Venezuela, we reaffirm the solidarity with the long suffering people of Cuba and Nick Ruckle and people everywhere living under socialists and communistry. And to those who would try to impose socialism on the United States, we again deliver a very simple message. America will never be a socialist country. We are born free and we will stay free now and forever. I

certainly hope the President's right. I know he'll do his part to fight so that he is. But we are at a at a real moment of us as a nation, as a people, the tide of socialism is rising. Yes, there is at least an opportunity here for the entire Western hemisphere to look at what's going on in South America and say, okay, well, clearly Venezuela has gone down

a very wrong path. But you only need you only need one administration to come along in this country and impose reckless socialist policies and do a tremendous amount of damage, damage that I don't know if we ever really recovered from as a country. Keep in mind, China is becoming a near peer competitor. Some would argue it already is

a near peer competitor. It's got a lot more people than us, it has some advantages built in with its industrial capacity because of well obviously the lack of environmental regulations and it's predatory trade practices. So I don't think that America can be asleep at the wheel as an economic powerhouse for eight years without suffering real consequences. You put somebody like Bernie Sanders and o'cazio Quartez is too young, I know, But why is she getting so much attention?

Why is it that the left is holding up this absolute ignoramus as the premier Democrat voice in the nation, which has been the case for the last couple of months. Ocazio Quartez has more sway. I think she I saw something that said that she might be in the top five most interacted with Twitter accounts in the world, of all of them, I know, I think she's in the top ten for sure. It might have been the top five.

O'casio Cortez has greater cultural media and political sway than anybody else in the party right now, and she doesn't

know a thing about a thing. She just represents the trappings, the appearance, the facade of a socialist future, which is why she is so wildly popular with the left in this country that thinks that now that we don't have some major war on the horizon, and we're wealthy, and things have been going well in this country for at least a couple of years, but overall, obviously for decades, things that have been going very well in America financially.

Now is the time for them to say, you know what, let's just put the brakes on all that and let's fundamentally bar from Obama here, fundamentally transform not just the way the American economy operates, but the purpose of the American economy, which is not to create wealth, but in a Sanders socialist dystopia, it will be to redistribute it. He's holding the line for America. Bug Sexton is back, Can you be a democratic socialist and a capitalist? Well,

I think it depends on your interpretation. So there are some democratic socialists that would say absolutely not. There are other people that are democratic socialists that would say, I think it's possible. What are you I think it's possible? I think you say do. So I'm a capitalist, but I don't say that. Okay, you know, if anything, I would say, I'm I believe in in a democratic economy.

But gotcha. But the but is there so so in some ways, whether it's you're coming from say Elizabeth Warren's perspective where she says, you know, she says things like, I'm a capitalist, but we need to have hard rules for the game. What does the private sector do better than you know that the private Look, government should stay out of X because the private sector does that better. Yeah, I think there's a lot of things. There's a lot

of consumer goods where the private sector works. And by the way, if it's important to delineate that just because you're in the private sector does it. You can be in the private sector and be a democratically socialist business. Worker cooperatives are a perfect example of that. Okay, So yeah, you gotta. I just wanted to give you a sense of what the Democratic Party it gets excited about and

you're hearing it there now. I also go back and forth as to how much I want to just go yeah, like I mean like it totally like democratic and I know that anybody can do that. So it's a little bit of fun once in a while. But I do think we have to take this seriously. Even to call them ideas, and to take these ideas seriously might be giving them too much credit in a sense, because it's

really more emotions. It's really more an impulse, a feeling of if only we were able to have the government making more decisions, there would be less poverty in America. There would be more fairness, which is a very easy to abuse term, which we will remember with Obama. Pay fair share, right, You're gonna pay your fair share. That was always the pitch from Obama himself, and the Democrats are embracing this emotion based economics, which I think is

very troubling because it is superficially appealing. If you think about this, Yeah, you know, I feel badly when I see a poor person on the street. Really, if if we just pay a little bit higher taxes we want

to have poor people on the streets. The answer to that is no. But you can see how people if they're told this enough, and if they're told that climate change is an existential threat to the nation, that all these things that the Democrats have the advantage of a media apparatus that just pushes the propaganda all the time.

It's easy for someone who's just trying to live his or her life and go through their day to day to say, yeah, you know, Sweden's not so bad, right, I mean, maybe Bertie Sanders should run for mayor of Sweden, but or mayor of Stockholm. But he's running for president

of the United States. It's a different job. We are different than these other countries because of the underlying philosophy we have about the relationship between citizen and state and the boundaries the individual rights that we all enjoy that the state cannot cross. Once it's all about what's good for the collective, then it's just a question of who's

in power to determine what that collective good may be. Democrats, of course, view this as them If they're in power, they know what's the best for all of us, and so what that means they're going to do to you

as an individual doesn't really matter. This is where you get into the troubling and eventually catastrophic deterioration of individual rights that happens in a statist society when the state makes all determinations, makes all decisions for you, this leads down pathways that are very dark in our history, I mean,

and in recent history. I mean, you just look at the history of the twentieth century and you don't want and I'm not just saying, oh, Nazi Germany and the Soviet you get no. No No, I mean, look at any country that's gone increasingly that has left the direction of free markets and freedom and gone toward state control authoritarianism. And people say, well, Buck, look at China, and they says, yeah,

China has become more and more free market. China was a dogmatic communist state that is now a kind of communist capitalist hybrid. You know, it's an authoritarian state based on an economic model of really almost mercantilism too, especially when you look at what it's doing abroad. So if we're going to talk about these matters, we should at least try to do so with some accuracy, if we can't even get into specificity. But o'casio cortez I doesn't

know about any of this stuff. All she knows is there are people who are upset, they feel like they're left out. There's a concentration of wealth in what feels like very few hands, even though the overall concentration of wealth for the American people is much greater than it was, and that the two income trap, which is something I want to address again on this show. That's a problem. But there's a lot of a lot of things to unpack in that. It is true that people were able

to raise at least in the American middle class. You were able to raise a family on one income more comfortably in the fifties than you could today. But there's a lot to look at as to why that's the case and what government policies today and then influence those economics. Remember, we do not exist. We are not a free market country.

We aspire to free market, we aspire to be a purely capitalist society, but there's a lot of regulation and politics and red tape and government intrusion in the marketplace. You know, it would be fascinating if I could just get an answer to whether o'casio Cortez has read Hyak The Road to Serfdom. In fact, I would even take it a step further. I would want to know of marks and angles. There are so many people you find on the left that borrow their ideas, they borrow liberally

from marks and angles. But do they really understand the text, Have they really learned to history, Do they know what the heck they're talking about, or do they just pick and choose the parts of it that they think will get them applause from Slate and Vox and the New York Times editorial page and all the rest of it. I think that there's very little understanding on the left of the mechanisms of state control in the economy. They just know that power is good. They're the good people.

If they're in power, good things will happen. And the only people that will will suffer are the enemies of the left, the rich, white male patriarchy. That's that's essentially the enemy, the enemy. And if you fall into any of those categories, male, rich, white, you know there there's criticism that comes along just with that. Even if you're poor and white and male, you're part of the patriarchy.

You're part of this of this hierarchy. Even if you're you know, if you're a minority who is conservative, you're part somehow you're you're also part of this hierarchy of oppression. But we have to take these ideas seriously. They are popular in a vacuum they're popular when people first hear about them. If you want free healthcare, yeah, I want free healthcare. Sounds great. Well, do you know what you're gonna pay for that free healthcare? No, no idea someone

else is gonna pay. Not true. That is a lie they always tell us about Trump slies. I want to make sure that we focus on and we spread the truth across the country about the lies that the left relies on for its political philosophy to work, that the left needs as part of its foundation, those lies, the lies of socialism. We will stay on that. We'll be right back. Maduro is not a Venezuelan patriot. He is a Cuban puppet. That's what he is. We seek a

peaceful transition of power, but all options are open. If you choose this path, you will find no safe heart, no easy exit, and no way out. You will lose everything. Yo, there you have Trump. There you have Trump talking about what's going on in Venezuela, which you made. Say to yourself, oh, well, you know, how much do we really care about what's happening in Venezuela. It's not our country, it's there, it's

you know, for them to figure out for them to deal. Well, there's obviously a tie into what we see going on in this country right now, because while the Democrats here like to talk a lot about the socialism as it is practiced in countries like Norway and Denmark and Sweden, socialism in our own hemisphere has a long and storied history of catastrophic failure, and Venezuela is just the most noticeable current example of that failure. But there are many

others as well. Cuba, for example. You look at the friends that the Majuro regime has, and one thing that binds them together is they are left wing socialist dictatorships or quasi dictatorships. I mean, you look at what's going on in Nicaragua. That's what binds them together. That they have essentially embraced an economic philosophy and economic system that

just does not work. And when you start to extrapolate from a situation in Venezuela for what's going on in this country, I know that democrats are gonna, oh, they're gonna say, you know, it's so unfair and look at well, look at Denmark. Don't look at Venezuela. Denmark has very high taxes in the middle class. They're not going to be able to get around this. Denmark is not a country where the state has a tremendous amount of control

over the economy. The state just provide services in response or you know, resulting from or that that are only possible because of very high income taxes on everybody. So that's that's the model that they talk about, is only possible if the middle class in this country pays sixty

percent income tax. What you have in Venezuela is when you add social justice into the mix, right, the social justice rhetoric of class warfare, of different you know, ethnicities being lumped together by the state, treated differently because of the state. Look at the native populations in Venezuela. Look at the way that you know, there's different ethnic conflict and different ethnic back and forth in Venezuela, just like you. Every country in the world has this, and it's just

a question of degree. There's always some sense of a class structure that's in place of different ethnicities within that country. Even if you know they're all speaking a similar language, with the same language either there's still are these breakdowns. But Venezuela has some of these similarities with the left in America that we need to be very aware of, and also the way that Democrats approach governance, the way that democrats view setting prices, for example, for determining what

you can pay. That was one of the big downfalls for the Venezuela and E comedy was that the Venezuelan government said, there are greedy profiteers who are making too much money by producing home appliances. So Maduro's regime came along and said, okay, if you're selling appliances, now you have to sell them for this amount of the equivalent of dollars, right, whatever, whatever the Venezuelan paso is, you

have to sell it for this amount. And the problem with that is, well, now these factories or these businesses that are importing and selling can make a profit. Well, now it's you must be greedy. So we'll just take over your factory and the government will run it. This is Chavez did this, Venduro did this. That's really getting closer to true socialism, which is government control of the means of production as well as the distribution of goods.

You don't have this in Denmark, in Sweden, in Norway, in fact, in those countries, not only do you have a very high tax burden on all citizens everybody. You also have a pretty les a fair economy when it comes to businesses, meaning that they're allowed to operate in ways that are very free market based. They have to pay high taxes, but they are allowed to innovate, they are allowed to operate with less regulation even than our

own economy. I know, people, and look, there are differences between Norway, Sweden, and Denmark were throwing them all in. I know this is true of Denmark and anybody who spends any time studying their economy. So if we're going to make an apples to apples comparison about different components of an economy today, let's do that. Let's see what went wrong in Venezuela, because there are lessons for our own economy. And it's not enough to just say, well,

they did socialism badly. Sweden does socialism right? Well, how does Sweden do it right? If you even believe that, how do Sweden provide social services in the way that it does that are as effective as it does? And what did Venezuela do wrong? And what you find is that the American left, we already are much closer to Sweden and much closer to Norway than the Libs are

willing to admit. We already have fifty percent of healthcare spending, folks, fifty percent when you add Medicare and Medicaid and all these other and the VA and all these other programs, is government spending. So when we talk about Medicare for all, you know, when you look at the amount of money that's already going through the system, the government plays a

huge role in that. It's government spending. And they're really just talking about closing it up all together and making the government a charge of all of it, going to a single payer system. But we're pretty close to that as it is, and we have healthcare costs spiraling out of control and delivery of services feels like it's getting worse and slower, at least to me, in the last

five years. I do think that I think the healthcare system has gotten worse in the last five years, and that's just from my own experience in it, in dealing with it. And they could tell me Obamacare has made it better. I don't believe they, being Democrats, I don't believe them. And I could point to all the different studies, in all the different ways that they're wrong, But for them, it's really more about what they view as fair to

borrow from Bernie Sands, it's about pana facie. So they want people to do what is fair, not necessarily what is most efficient, what is the smartest, what is the best thing for our economy? And this is why the Venezuela example right now, and that's why Trump is focusing in on it. Yes, I think he's going to get a foreign policy win in dealing with Venezuela. That's a

part of this, no question about it. But I also think that by highlighting Venezuela and what has happened there, it shows us it is a cautionary tale for a government that had the best intentions or at least use the kind of he eric that would appeal to a Bernie Sanders rally. And this is why there's some Bernie bros. Out there. The only people you see who are defending

Maduro is the far left in this country. The only people who say that we shouldn't meddle, we shouldn't be involved in this at all that I see at least are far left Democrats because they have a kind of fellow traveler sympathy for the efforts of the Chavista revolution and how it has now been taken on by Maduro. They feel like they're trying. They tried really hard to

make it better. They just failed. But there's a sympathy on the left for this because the idea of an economy that is too stratified, the elites getting richer and doing better all the time, and the and the working class just getting the raw into this deal and all this this is right out of the social justice playbook

in this country. And so this is why there's also much less talking the press about how people are starving right now in Venezuela and it's a catastrophe, it's a failed state, and yet not nearly as much focus on this as, for example, the media's outrage over Jesse Smollett, which we're going to follow up and talk more about later on in this show. So stay right there, team, we'll be back. Team. I like to bring you perspectives from people who actually understand what's going on at the border,

and that sometimes involves actually going to the border. We have somebody who's been doing some great work all this issue for quite a while. John Davidson of the Federalist joins US now. He's a senior correspondent for the Federalist. He has an excellent piece why a wall alone can't fix the emergency on the US border. He was just down in El Paso, Texas looking at this issue last week. John, Thanks so much for making the time for us. Thanks for having me. All right, So tell me what you know.

Anybody who I think understands the borders, who knows that a wall is it is not a panacea. It is a piece in a larger puzzle. And your written piece here you identify what else needs to be done, what the rest of the problem set looks like. Here, tell me a bit about what's going on with migrants and families that are coming to claim asylum and their view of the border right now. Sure, the simplest way to put it is that we don't have a border crisis

or a border security crisis. We have an asylum crisis. So the vast majority of the problems coming from the border right now, besides the problems of drugs and cartel activity, which has been going on for years and years. But what's new is the Central American families and unaccompanied miners that are showing up and turning themselves in to the

border patrol and claiming asylum. There's no amount of border security, of border fencing, of more border patrol agents, of technology that can style that because it's not a problem with our physical infrastructure, our physical security. It's a problem with our policy infrastructure. It is a problem with our laws because when these families and unaccompanied minors show up on the south side of a border fence and turn themselves into the border patrol, it's not a security question. The

wall is not stopping them from doing that. And I think that's what gets lost in our debate. A lot of times people think on the right, a lot of people think, well, we need more more physical barriers, we need more at border security and border agents, so that we may need those things, but we don't need those things to stop people who are coming here to claim asylum. One.

I've actually done the exercise John of speaking to senior people in Immigrations and Customs enforcement and saying, Okay, let's let's do this thought experiment. I show up at the border, I say the following, and my intention is to stay in the United States, and I go through this process. If I have base acknowledge of what the process is and I say the right things, What are the chances that I will be released without without any meaningful monitoring

or accountability in the United States right now? And they've told me it's one hundred percent, which I think people need to understand that if people show up as a family unit at the border and they understand, as you point out, the legalities of the system right now, they have a sure shot of being released in the US interior unless they have a criminal record or a known

cartel member or something. That's right. That's right. And the people who do have criminal records and know that that's not going to work for them, those are the people who are crossing trying to cross the border without being detected. But that's a very small number compared to the people who are crossing the border who want to be detected. And here's another thing to keep in mind. But I don't know that a lot of Americans who haven't been

to the border realized this. The border walls, the fencing is not on the border. It's entirely withinside the United States. It's on US soil. So the northern side of the fences on US soil, on the southern side of the fences on the US soil. And that's for very practical reasons. Border patrol agents have to be able to access both sides. Oftentimes they set atop of levy. They need to be able to clear debris and do maintenance. So the fences

on US soil. So if you show up on the south side of the fence, you've already entered illegally into the United States. Okay, you already here, and you're going to be taken into custody. If you have children with you and you know what to say, you're absolutely right, and the Border patrol people you spoke with are absolutely right.

It's almost certain you're going to be released after a few days, with an appointment to appear before an immigration judge, maybe an ankle monitor around your ankle, and then sent off to go wherever it is that you're going to. And I have to tell you as well, every single adult I've talked to you on the border who's crossed in has a place they're going somewhere in the United States. It could be they're going to all points in the United States. They know people that have networks in place.

Some people already have jobs lined up. And if you talk to them long enough, they'll tell you that they're coming here to work and send money home to the rest of their family that's back in Central America. Which right, and I always try to tell everyone will listen. This doesn't make anybody a bad person, but it does mean that the immigration laws that we have are being exploited. Because asylum is supposed to be for people that cannot be in their home country because they're likely to be

tortured and or killed. It's not I want a better job, because if it's I want a better job, then we effectively have open borders. Now now, yeah, absolutely right. You can hardly blame these people for trying to get into the United States. They're trying to do right by their children. They're trying to get ahead. If I were in their position, I would probably do the same. And if I knew that there were holes in the immigration an asylum system

that could be exploited, I would probably exploit them. I think it's important to note that the countries they're coming from, Honduras, El Salvado or Guatemala are often dangerous places. They're impoverished, But very few of these people are going to meet the definition of a political asylum, political assilee or a resugee that we have in US law, and the vast majority of them do not get asylum status. If you look at the rates at which asylum is granted to

its people in this country, it's a small number. But nevertheless, they know if they claim a credible fear and if they begin the asylum proceedings, and they can get into the country and be released on their own recognisance. And that's what's happening in mass and it's tying up all the time and resources of the border patrol agents all

along the US Texas border. Pretty much all they do now is pick large groups of people up and transport them and process them, and all the other things the border patrol is supposed to be doing fall by the wayside. We're speaking of John Davidson. He's a senior correspondent for The Federalist. Tell me about the part of your piece for you where you get into the dangers here, because I think that that's all been overlooked by much of

the media that just finds the whole crossing process. I think a lot of people in the press are just favorable to people coming into the country using the asylum laws. However they can. I think that they don't see anything bothersome about this. But even if one takes the position that we should just let in whoever wants to come in, there are risks with the system right now. Safety risks,

that's right. There's significant safety risks to traveling over the border with children, you know, and some of these are small children as well, toddlers. Even I saw a number of people with toddlers with four or five six year old kids, and then teenagers who are traveling by themselves, and it is dangerous, especially the farther you get from

urban centers and populated areas. And what they are finding now are that some of the most remote border stations out in the New Mexico Boothill are having these very large groups. In some cases, hundreds of people emerge from the desert and turn themselves in mass into border patrol forward operating basis that may only have four or five

border agents on hand. Well, that presents a huge logistical challenge for those agents, in part because they have to assess the condition of hundreds of people that have just shown up in the middle of the night, in the middle of the desert, when it's in the forties or in the thirties. It's very cold. They have no idea how long these people have been traveling for, they have

no idea what condition they're in. And then they have to wait hours and hours to get transport out there, to transport them to facilities that can process them, that can house them, that can feed them and assess their medical needs. And this is why we had two children die in December who showed up at remote New Mexico border patrol stations. You know, by the time they realized something was wrong, it was too late, you know. And again I think this comes from a lack of understanding

what the borders actually like. It's very remote in places, that's very dangerous walking across miles of desert for days, sometimes weeks. These people have been traveling and showing up in the middle of the night is a dangerous thing to subject children to. And it's a wonder we haven't had more tragedies on the border than we have given the volume of people they're showing up. Now, speak to me about how the Mexican drug cartels play into the

play into this whole situation and the human smuggling component. Yeah, a lot of times that's something that Americans don't connect. The entire cross border migrant phenomenon is being directed and controlled and profited off of by Mexican drug cartels. The

cartels are not really drug cartels anymore. They are highly sophisticated international criminal organizations with unlimited resources at their disposal, and they have figured out a way over the past decade or so to monetize illegal immigration and human smuggling. So every person who crosses the border, whether it's an adult or a teenager or a child, has to pay a certain amount of money, anywhere from two to six

or seven thousand dollars. Now, when you have thousands of people coming across the border every day, last Monday, we had eighteen one hundred people cross and turn themselves in, traveling in family units. Every single one of those people paid between two and six thousand dollars a person. Let's say the average was four thousand dollars. Well, that's more than seven million dollars that went into smugglers hands just

last Monday. That is all money that is controlled and funneled into the drug cartels that are profiting off of this cross border traffic and facilitating it and encouraging it. It's actually a lot easier away for them to make money than trafficking drugs, and they're engaging in it for the same reason. It's profit and there's a lot of

profit to be made. I really also thought it was important for context here the quote in your piece of that according to the DA the financial resources of the four cartels put together, if they were a country, the financial resources of the four Mexican drug cartels would be one of the top ten richest countries in the world. Yeah, that's amazingactly, and I don't think people quite realize that. You know, we're not the only actors on the border.

We have border patrol agents, we have customs and border protection officers. In some places, we have you know, the US Army, we have local law enforcement. But on the south side of the border, you have profit driven organizations that have enormous incentives to get people up to and across the border and to get illegal drugs across the border. And they are very sophisticated. They are have twenty four to seven operations all up and down the border, and

not just on the south side of the border. They have networks and people on the north side of the border and all throughout the United States. And I think that you can't think about and talk about and debate the migrant crisis problem without talking about the role of the cartels, and very few media outlets will leave it acknowledge that the cartels are playing a role. John, before I let you go, I know this is quite a thing to drop at the end of interview. But how

do we fix this? Well, I think we have to stop focusing on a border wall, and we need to start looking at how we fix our asylum laws, how we streamline our asylum and immigration laws, and how we kind of rationalize them and tailor them to fit the challenges that we're actually facing. I agree that we need more border security in some places to stop illegal drugs and to stop people coming in who are trying to

evade border patrol. But the crisis is really about these families that are turning themselves in in mass and a wall is not going to fix that. We need book and it's going to be I mean for this year, based on the numbers I'm saying, we're talking about hundreds of thousands of people. Yeah, that's right. This year. If if this keeps going the way it's been going the first couple of months of the year. This year will be by far the biggest year for families and teenagers

turning themselves in. Yeah, everybody, this problem is only going to keep getting bigger and bigger, so we're gonna keep following it. John Davidson, Man, great work. Really appreciated your peace. Everyone should go read it on the Federalist dot com. John, thanks so much, Man, Come back anytime. Thanks for having me team. We'll be right back. AARP is a well known organization for seniors, but what's not nearly as well

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was on the president's mind. Then the President made those public comments that you've referenced both on NBC and to the Russians, which has captured in the Oval Office. Put together, these circumstances were artakable facts that indicated that a crime may have been committed. President may have been engaged in obstruction of justice in the firing of Jim Comey. I don't believe there is a crisis of confidence in the leadership of the FBI. I suppose there's somewhat self serving,

and I apologize for that. You know, it was completely within the President's authority to take the steps that he did. We all understand that McCabe is very shady, folks. The more he goes on this book tour, the former acting FBI director, the more we see a slimy self dealing deep stater in action and it doesn't hold up. It doesn't make sense. I'm not surprised that this guy is facing federal charges for lying to his own home agency to the Bureau, because this stuff does this stuff does

not add up. I mean. He was also asked about whether or not, or rather, why is it that his firing or the firing rather of Komi. Why is it that Rowenstein, for example, was part of this. Rosenstein was part of firing Komy. But then McCabe and Rosenstein and all these other guys are completely freaked out when Komy gets fired. Rosenstein wrote a letter to get Komy fired. Just does anyone want to dig in on this a little bit? Also on the issue of sourcing, And this

is what I was thinking about a moment ago. McCabe was asked today. I think it was on the view about whether he had ever been a source for The New York Times on any of these things. And you know, he was pushed on this issue. And the problem is that Komy has already said that he never authorized anyone. Comey said he never authorized any to be a source

on these issues to the press. McCabe says that he is authorized to interact with the press, and when pushed on that, McCabe says, well, I don't know why Komy's recollection is different from mine. This is what he said. You know, I don't know why we have a different recollection. And he was under a lot of stress, and he was really tired and had a lot going on at

the time. Now, to anybody listening, this should be a slap in the face because we've seen that the FBI, the Special Counsel, they don't make allowances for I was really tired. They don't make allowances for you know, I had a lot going on, and I told you the wrong thing. No, what happened. What happened was you got prosecuted. Right if you said something that was untrue, that was or the facts were contradictory to your recollection. If you're a papadopolis, if you're any of these guys, you go

to prison, they prosecute you. So why should the standard for the people making those decisions be different. Why should we accept that McCabe and Komy and others should be allowed to throw everyday citizens, normal folks in prison for being tired and misremembering. You know, and where are all the truth the truth sleuths out there that we've been hearing from. Oh, you know, why did this Trump person lie?

Why did that Trump person lie, you know, why did Roger Stone or why did General Flynn or Papadappas they get on these guys, And I keep saying, first of all, you know, if you're talking without a lawyer present to any of these FBI guys and they want to jam you up, they can. They'll find a way. That's their job,

that's what they do. So start with that. And then, well, when you're doing interrogation for hours at a time and there are people that are trying to trip you up and trying to get you to lie about something unimportant that you may legitimately misremember, and then aren't going to give you the benefit of the doubt, Guess what, It's not hard to prosecute you for lying. But why McCabe and Comey should escape that same standard of justice. I

would like someone to try and explain that one. I would like someone to take the position that there isn't an obvious double standard at work here, because there is. Because there was rot. There was an infestation of a status bureaucrat mentality at the very top of the FBI and the DOJ. They viewed Trump as a threat to the established order, and they thought of themselves as the mandarins, you know, as the big important cogs in the bureaucratic machine.

They viewed themselves as the guaranteurs of that machinery, and Trump was a threat to it, so they tried to take them out. We got more on this coming up. The purpose of the briefing was to let our congressional leadership know exactly what we've been doing opening a case of this nature, not something that an FBI director, not something that an acting FBI director do by yourself. Did

anyone object? That's the important part here, Savannah. No one objected, not on legal grounds, not on constitutional grounds, and not based on the fact well that's insane. So McCabe in his tour, which a lot of people are pointing out, seems to be in some way an effort to avoid prosecution himself, because he's just getting as much of the

anti Trump sympathy lined up as he possibly can. Right, and if he gets enough people to come along and say, well, you know, maybe he made some mistakes, but the real problem is that evil Donald Trump, then he thinks that he'll escape the prosecution that he so clearly deserves. I mean, he lied, he lied under oath about a matter of importance to the government. That is what the statute says. And he's put a lot of people in prison for

doing just that. So if other people go to prison for you know, if other people go to prison for this, he should go to prison for this. But McCabe is out there trying to do his very best to throw up all these different smoke screens. But there he was talking to Savannah Guthrie about how when he told congress national leadership that there was a Trump probe, none of them, none of them had an issue with it. Well, that just shows what a bunch of deferential whimps we're talking

about here. That just shows that the Gang of eight, right, the congressional leadership that people preferred to, was the gang of eight. We're willing to let the FBI run in operation that should have had far higher bars to clear. I mean, this is insane. The whole thing is just nuts, just incredible. And you know when you look at it now and you say to yourself, well, hold on, how do they justify this along the way McCabe claims in this past week, McCabe claims that, yeah, you know, we

did this because of Coomy getting fired. But the robe was opened long before then. And hold on a second, I thought the probe was about Russia Trump collusion. Now they're saying it's about Comy getting fired. But the Trump Russia collusion had started, not the Mueller Special Council, but the investigation into Trump started months and months and months before that. The timeline does not add up. McCabe is lying.

There are some instances you can point to you where either McCabe or Comy is lying, either McCabe or Rosenstein is lying, or maybe all of them are lying. But these are people that are supposed to be held to the very highest standard of veracity. These are individuals that have had a lot of government power and prosecutorial investigative power, depending on whether they're on the FBI or DJ side, and we cannot make allowances for their political score settling.

I'm sorry. Unacceptable, absolutely unacceptable. McCabe is not doing himself, in my view, not doing himself any favors. He is making a lot of mistakes out there right now, and he just looks like a like a surly, slimy, dishonest Washington insider in this whole process. And people can tell me, oh, you know this person, you know worked for decades and was a good public servant. You know who els worked for decades was a public servant, Aldred James until he

wasn't anymore. Now, I'm not saying that McCabe as a trader, but just enough of this. Well, this person worked in the government for a long time. Guess what. A lot of people work for the government a long time, in fact, millions of them. So the I worked in the government for a long time thing is not enough to give you the ability to operate under a separate set of laws. You know. It's it's not enough for you to just say, well, you know, I tried really hard on all this other stuff,

so I'm not going to be held responsible here. McCabe is also making claims that are just are just flatly untrue. So even if there's not going to be any legal ramifications for that, you know, he's out there on this book tour. The threat, by the way, not very subtle, is he. And it's it's perfectly lined up here. You know, Comy's whole higher loyalty. I'm James Comey and I just love America more than everybody. That's why James Comy has to be at the center of every major political investigation

because he loves America so much. Please. And then with McCabe, it's the threat, yes, because we all know that Donald Trump is the threat. How zactly is he a threat? What's the terrible thing that he's done? Why are we supposed to think that all this investigation of Donald Trump was justified based on what? They don't answer this question. They never have an answer for this question. But that's because they're lying. Here here McCabe talked about how he's

filing a lawsuit about his very richly deserved firing. Here's what he said, Plate twelve. I was fired because I opened a case against the President of the United States. I read the Inspector General's report that suggests the Inspector General is in on it and firing you for a basically making up a pretext to fire you. Is that what you're suggesting? Here's what I can tell you. I

read that report very closely myself. I've been writing and reading investigative reports for over twenty years, and that report was not like anything I have ever read before. An investigative report includes all of the evidence. It includes all of the information, not just those facts that support the conclusion that you'd like to draw. So I have big

problems with that report. I disagree with the conclusions they drew, and that is something that I'll be raising in a civil lawsuit that I'll be bringing against the Department of Justice. So I just need to get this straight. When McCabe, when Comy and McCabe want the FBI to be perfect and beyond reproach and a wonderful institution, and no one's

allowed to criticize it, which is to accept that. But when the FBI's own internal processes finds that McCabe should be fired, and fired right before I think twenty four hours before he could have qualified for his pension, then the FBI is subject to criticism. Then we can all look at the FBI and say, well, hold on a minute, maybe there's something else going on here. I'm sorry, but just doesn't wash that dog won't hunt. This is not

based on an objective view of the circumstances. This is McCabe changing the narrative as fits his own needs about the FBI, about the Inspector General, about the Russia Trump collusion probe, about all of it, all of it. These were bad actors, and we see this now, bad actors in the FBI, bad actors in the DJ. You know, the left used to have a whole vendetta against law enforcement.

You know, j Erica Hoover was this boogeyman, and the CIA and the Church Commission and all these different things that you learn in you know, vox dot com training programs. You know, this is what you learn if you're going to be an MSNBC host. The only history of America that you're allowed to know if you work at MSNBC for the past, you know, fifty years is Watergates, Iran Contra, and you know things like the Church Committee, here is

the CIA, and that the FBI was bad. I mean that that's really the only stuff, other than the social justice stuff that you're allowed to know about American history. So the left used to have all these criticisms of the FBI and the CIA, the intelligence community. I worked in the intelligence community. I was a CIA analyst in the Iraq Office, So I have a particular sensitivity to Oh, lawmakers will just dump on us as though you know all of us who worked there, and I'd enjoy it

until after the Iraq War started. So I definitely can't have any responsibility for that, But all of us who worked there don't know anything or jerks or clowns though you know they were doing that. Pelosi and company were saying the CIA was engaged in torture, that people should be prosecuted for this. But now John Brennan, Comy McCabe, all of them are our heroes to the left because they've been very useful modes of attack against Trump. That's it,

and that's all you really have to be. And I just think that McCabe, he's showing us exactly who he is in this whole process, which is somebody who it's frightened. We should all be frightened that McCabe was in the positions of authority that he was in for as long as he was. That this was a guy who was making decisions that ruined people's lives. You know, his discretion during investigations, his discretion about reports as an FBI agent

making his way up the ranks. This is not somebody that I think was fair in his outlook, based on the way he's conducted himself once he got into the upper reaches of powers. So I'd be very concerned about this individual, and I'd be very concerned about the Democrats being crazy as well. Here is Congressman I've never heard of this guy before, Garamendi, who is just just losing his mind over the threat. Remember the book that McCabe wrote is the Threat. Now we're for us to think

that Trump is a threat. Yeah, he's a threat to socialism and the CNN clowns. He's not a real threat to anything that's important. Plick looked forward. I think that what we have here as a president is totally out of control. He doesn't want to listen to his intelligence community at all. He'd rather listen to Putin. That was part of what was in the McCabe interview, and it appears to be over and over again that he's more, when more than willing to listen to Putin and the

Russians than he is to his own intelligence people. It is an extraordinarily serious problem of national security when the president refuses to accept the information from the intelligence community. We just have to hope and pray that nothing serious is going to take place. I don't know, I just take a deep breath and pray, because this man is totally out of control and putting our nation in serious jeopardy.

How in what way this Democrat congressman is a loon, a loon totally out of control because because of what what has he done that's out of control? What has he done that we're all supposed to be so worried about. They they're such they're in such hysterics all the time. The amount of the world is ending pearl clutching from Democrats. I'm just I'm becoming immune to it. I can't even I can't even bring myself to want to spend time ridiculing it the way I used to, because it's just

so ridiculous. Nobody who's been paying attention to want to take any of this seriously. Nobody who has been operating from a perspective of trying to get to the truth would listen to these people and say, yeay, they sound like they're given the president a fair shake. We're extraordinarily serious problem not security, because McCabe says that Trump believe who believes McCay. McCabe's a known liar and he's trying to trash the president with everything he's got. He has

a personal vendetta. He says that the President mocked his wife. He has a personal vendetta against his president. We're supposed to take this guy's word for it. I'm not taking this word for it, buddy, buddy with Comy, I don't think Comy's word for it. Any of these guys, I don't think any of their word for it, because they've shown themselves to be dirty political insiders. They've shown themselves to be people that are a part is an agenda in this whole process. So you know, the the McCabe

cheerleading section is a bunch of whackados. All right. So what is going on right now at the White House? Obviously a lot of activity with this administration, a lot of major policy discussions still underway in the aftermath of the declaration of a national emergency. Our man Sager and Jetty is in the House, the White House, that is, that's right. He is the Daily Callers White House correspondent,

and he joins us now from the House itself. Mister Sager, great to have you back, Hey, thanks for having me a book. All right. So you were in the press spray, which is insider lingo for a bunch of reporters getting to be inside the oval. Right, So you were there with the man himself just just before coming on air here, What can you tell us about what's going on with the with the Trumpster, with the administration, or everything going everything going on the White House? Yeah, that's right. Book,

basically you can be president. Had a bunch of comments today. The most surprising was, even though he was signing something that was on the Space Policy Directive, he held his fire on Bernie Sanders. He actually said that he likes Bernie Sanders. You know that he welcomed his presidential run, and he didn't seem particularly phased by it because he said that, you know, there's a lot of people running, but only one person is going to win, and he said,

I think you all know who that will be. He also made a little he talked a little bit about that lawsuit of that California and a bunch of other states are filing against the president of the National Emergency Declaration, and he said that overall he wasn't particularly worried and he thought even in the ninth circuit that he might prevail there. Wow, look at that. Trump has got quite a bit of optimism, Sager, But that's that's not at

all surprising. What's the vibe you're getting from the White House in terms of how the whole speech over the weekend was received, well, overall, the White House is mostly just happy to put this matter to bed. You know, they had a shutdown for thirty five days that exhausted pretty much everybody here. Then we had three weeks of negotiations. Things didn't exactly go their way in this negotiation. So what they're mostly happy in this point is they got

their National emergency declaration. They're looking at this as a as a minor victory because at least they can tap sources of funding without that won't be tied up in court because I think approximately five billion dollars of the eight billion dollars it's available to them is available without the National emergency. So you know, they think that they can begin construction on the wall and they can do that as soon as soon as they need to, even

with court challenges. Do you get any sense of what that I think a lot of people are, Okay, so we've been through this whole wall fight, we got funding now declared an emergency. Why aren't there shovels and jackhammers and earthmovers, oh my going on right now at the border. Well, what they're with the White House would say, is that our US Army Corps of Engineers is already in discussions

here is the contracts are being being distributed out. But you're right, it is a lengthy and it's a long process. There's some texts written into those bills, which don't you know, which gives some of the towns involved the ability to hold up construction on these walls. So it's it's there's a lot of different moving parts, and it's basically any regular government operation anything else going on White House world Saga. The folks listening across the country should be aware of

things that are on the horizon. Anything that you think that we're going to be hearing from the President himself on in the next few days that we should be aware of. Well, you know what's what The major thing that this building is focused on right now is the upcoming summit with Chairman Kim Jongoon and Hanoi next week.

That's all eyes are looking on that. The President himself began his discussion today when we're talking about we're talking about Kim Jong un and the expectations for the summit. So that is the main priority. That's the main thing that everybody's focused on. That's obviously one of those things where the whole world kind of holds its breath and watches is such an extraordinary thing happens? Saga and Jet

everybody calling us in from the White House. He is the daily Callers White House correspondent and Sager just just so we know, do you do you ever like get to hang with Jim Acosta? Like, do you guys you know, ever ever share pencils or anything? What? What's the what's the spree of corelike over there these days the White House? For the people in the pool, you know, I would tell you it's it's chilly, but there's a level of

personal respect that that happens there. You know, we stand next to each other from time to time before we go into two events, exchange pleasantries. That's uh, that's that's as far as we can take it. So he can be pleasant. Okay, that's good to know. Is there anybody who's like the bad boy or the bad girl of the of the White House press pool? You know, give us give us a little insider peak here, Sagar. Oh man, I I if I gave you that, then I don't

think I'll get invite into all the fancy parties. So until then, I think I think I'm gonna keep my mouth shut on that. You're you're a smart man with a long and illustrious media career ahead of you. Joan, never let the radio hosts get information you don't want to give. Sager and Jetty, everybody, check out what he's got up on the Daily Caller dot com. Also, you can follow him on Twitter, and you need to figure

out how to spell his name. But other than that, it is just like it sounds, Sager and Jetty, mister Sager, thank you so much for joining us, my friend always gonna and thank you also for all your work on Rising recently. You've been fantastic. Oh, thank you, Buck, and thank you for having me. Man. All right, we'll talk to you soon, everybody from the White House. Saga and Jetty given us the up to date. What's what, We'll be right back. There are many indications of a hate

crime here. They are looking for two suspects who are apparently wearing Make America Great Again hats, so that has not yet been officially confirmed. We don't know what happened to Jesse, but what we do know is that racism

is alive and well in this country. There is real evidence of people who have done these crimes who cite that the president has fire that the fact that reportedly said this is Maga country adds to sort of the the atmosphere of menace that African Americans in particular and people of color in general have felt since the advent of the Trump administration, and the media has really cast so much doubt on his story, which I find so personally offensive that a gay black man is targeted and

then suddenly he becomes the victim of people's disbelieveing. It's outrageous, outrageous that people would disbelieve somebody lying like this in such obvious and ridiculous fashion. And I do think that there needs to be a reckoning for the media, and it's only going to come if we continue hammer at their biases and just the big this model too, the Jesse small thing shows us, I think, beyond any doubt, and you could point to a lot of other circumstances

where this is also the case. But they run with the they run with the narrative they like, They drive as much traffic, as many clicks and get as many views as they can, and then they just feel like they'll clean up the mess afterward. They don't seem to understand our national media. I would know Chicago media has acquitted itself well on this whole thing. Local Chicago media, CBS Chicago, they were, oh, I don't know, doing reporting

talking to police sources following up on the investigation. It's the national media, the CNNs and the New York Times. And that wasn't the view. What's the like the kind of bootleg version of the view on the other you know what I'm talking about, guys, it's the other show with a bunch of ladies around a table in the middle of the day, the talk. There's a there's an what's the talk? Brandon? No Brandon? Well because the Sharon Osbourne and Osbourne because Ozzie, where are you? Oz see?

I got a shit in Osbourne? Right? Kind of good? It's not bad, thank you? Oh see? Does it wan't to watch me on this? Okay? Else? But the the truth is that there's there's that show as well, and I think that's where we played that one clip where they're just oh, it's just like terrible. They don't believe jose Smollett. It's so upsetting. God, I was obviously a liar I knew he was a liar. That's why, That's

why I really dug in here. I know some nights your probably team, you're like, Buck, why are you doing a j Smollett update? And I just wanted to make sure that we all follow this at every step of the way, that we're like, this didn't happen. Another thing to indicate this didn't happen. And and now everyone turns around and says, oh, but but how could we have known it was? It was so credible and believable. Uh,

turns out it was neither credible nor believable. And the people that are dumb enough to or rather are so stupid that they can't tell the difference should be held accountable. Oh, speaking of people that, from what we know from the public record, had issues figuring out what's really going on here, we got two Democrat candidates that really waited on this one. We got a little before and after for you of

Booker and Harris play clip one and Senator Coy. Booker said the vicious attack when actor Jesse was an attempt at modern day lynching. Kamala Harris calling the attack and attempted modern day lynching, which tweet tweet about saying that it is a modern day lynching. That sorry, jam okay. So I will say this about that case. I think that the facts are still unfolding, and I'm very concerned

about act. Well, the information is still coming out, and I'm going to withhold until all the information actually comes out from on the record source. Is we know in America that diggoted and biased attacks are on the rise. Oh, there we go, transition to the narrative you want after you've already run with a false narrative about this event. I would note that there's more trouble on the horizon

for Jesse Smollett. Here this courtesy of The New York Post. Today, the FEDS are probing whether Jesse Smollett was involved in sending a suspicious letter to himself a week before the alleged hate attack in Chicago that has now been called into question. The FBI, US Postal Inspection Services are investigating the claim by brothers A. Bimbola and Ali Binjo assundai Ro that Smollett played a role in the letter delivered

to Fox's studio in January twenty second. The word mago was written in red letters across the envelope and it had nasty racial slurs and stuff in it. Let me just note that if that is true, if he used the male Oh, that's right, then it becomes a federal issue. Jose Smollett did not think this one through. Did not

really give this one the attention that it deserved. As somebody who's going to engage in a hoax, you would think that it would be better off for him to at least understand the legal ramifications of what he's doing. But I don't think he did. I don't think he thought this one through. Meanwhile, said Ed bride Stelter. The job it is, as Dallas said that the videos a great job that I had a show at ceded to

talk about. How great, said Ed, is that how I looked like Jeff Ducker, but maybe a few more cheeseburgers and play clip three here. About the rush to judge, there was a rush to judgment. I think it was mostly in the celebrity press and among activists and among Twitter people. I think it was a really careful reporting by news organizations, but it all gets lumped in together at the end of the day. I'll get slumped together in the minds of many people who now look at

this and say what went wrong here? And obviously, at the end of the day, what went wrong is that he may have made it up, and ultimately that's his responsibility. I thank god. The little rug is that Ceded had a lot of news cabbage of this with that thing alleged or that thing that guy. I look at Brian Stelter and I think to myself, anything is possible in this business. You know. I try to take something, I

try to take something positive from it. I'm like, oh, if Brian Stelter can have a show on any cable network and be treated with deference and respect throughout the media industry as a result of that, then it must be possible for any of us to get a show on a cable network. So we got that going for us, which is nice. But his point here about the reporting on this, I think is is just incorrect. I just think he's I think he's wrong, and it's very obvious why.

I mean, if you look, you will see that there were a lot of not just news stories, but it's the newsroom and then they switch to the analysis. And this is why the bias matters so much. If the Washington Post on the front page, can run Josie Smallett was attacked, and then run seven editorials right next to it about how this is terrible and racist and everything else.

They understand the propaganda effect that that's going to have on their audience, and the lack of skepticism from the newsroom then just becomes amplified in all of the analysis and perspective and all these different ways of essentially saying punditry without calling it punditry when they're they're openly activists instead of just activists without being honest about that fact. But the show Empire, which I have never seen, by the way, I do not know if it's a good

show or not. I know it made a big splash, it had a lot of ratings for a while, But the show Empire is from what I understand, writing him or cutting him out of episodes, they're already so they're getting this is when you start to see what people really think, right when their money and their reputations on

the line. Sure, I know that the showrunner for Empire gave some kind of statement of support here for for Smallett, But when when you see the show decide that they're going to cut back on this guy and they're going to take a different approach. Then then it's pretty clear, at least clear to me, that we're talking about somebody who is expected to continue his fall from grace. I don't think anybody believes that there's a what could the explanation be at this point that all the reports from

all the police sources were wrong. I mean, think about this one. I believe that what we're in the midst of right now is an intentional campaign of delay from not just smaller than his team. That's obvious and that's

to be expected, but from the press. I think they just want to lay off this for a few days and let some of the heat come out of the topic, let it let it seem a little less ridiculous that they weren't showing the due skepticism that they should have, and then they'll probably in a week say, yeah, it turns out the whole thing was a hoax. Fine, they move on to something else. That's the way they do this. I have a question for you, actually buck on this. Yes,

there's actually there's two ways this can go. This guy can either come clean or he can dig in and double down and go deeper into it. Which way do you think he's gonna go. That's a very interesting question, because what I think he's going to do is try to go somewhere in between where he's gonna just hope that the police aren't going to try to bring charges, the idea of being that they can't prove that what

he said is untrue. But because he brought so what I think he'd like to do is say people don't understand my truth and this is a teachable moment, and just protect himself with the social justice jargon and kind

of move on. The problem is because he brought other people into this, right, I think that's you know, like I said, if you had just written a swastika on his door, even if nobody believed that, or you go to put a noose on his door, even if nobody had believed that he was really targeted, it's very It would be very hard unless they had video of him, to prove that he did it to himself. This is

a different situation. He brought third parties into it, and if they're willing to tell the police under you know, in a scorn statement, that he conspired with them to do this, I think one he I think they're gonna have to bring charges against them. I don't see how they can get around that. So and at that point, he's gonna have to plead guilty to avoid the legal punishment. So as much as he'd like to dig in, I mean,

I see where you're going with that. I don't know if he's going to have that option, right, yeah, yeah, But you know, I've been right on this one so far. So we'll see what ends up happening. But the jussee Smollett almost certain hoax. Almost there were ninety nine percent sure it's a hoax, folks, right, continue, So we'll have more for you as it goes on. Global Verification Network is the only dual certified veteran owned background investigation and

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no stone unturned. It's time to get a little conversation going with our friend Rahim Kasam everybody you know him from Raheem Kasam dot com, Fox News, author of the book No Go Zones and general gentlemen about town here in DC. Very plugged in knows what's what mister Raheem. Great to have you back, Hey, thanks for having me book. So you brought this story to my attention about Isis brides who want to return to their home countries. And there's hundreds of them right now who are in custody

in these Kurdish detention camps in Syria. What's going on here? Yeah, it's been a big story dominating the news cycle in the United Kingdom for the past week, and actually a US version has just popped up today. Also, look the long story short is this a couple of years ago. People will remember that there were defectors you might call them, from the United States and the United Kingdom all over European fact, to the Islamic States, to the Isis Caliphate.

A lot of those defectors included young women in their mid to late teens that had been lured over there by propaganda videos and who spent the last couple of years propagandaizing against the West, calling for attacks on westerners, attacks on the US homeland, attacks on the United Kingdom, and attacks on our soldiers. Now it's not going so well, I would add, in a large part of thanks to the actions of President Trump and this administration. It's not

going so well for the Islamic Caliphate. These women having lost a lot of their spouses, and I say a lot of their spouses. Some of them have been married to two or three or four different ISIS fighters over the last couple of years. Now they want to return to the United States or the United Kingdom. And actually our two different nations are taking two quite different approaches to handling these would be returnees. And how so what's the UK doing, what's the US doing? Well, I'm glad

you asked. Well, the United Kingdom has effectively said, of this one Shamima Begham that because she is a dual nationality citizen of the United Kingdom and Bangladesh, the Home Office in the United Kingdom effectively our sort of Home department in state department, or sort of rolled into one,

they have removed her UK citizenship. As of today, she is now no longer the United Kingdom citizen and therefore cannot claim the sanctuary and the United Kingdom cannot claim welfare in the United Kingdom, cannot claim asylum or to return to the United Kingdom. President Trump's administration is taking

a different tack on this. What the US is saying is that sure, you can come back, and you will be tried and you will be sent to prison for effectively defecting and fighting for a terrorist organization that was anti anti United States and anti Western And so, you know, I think it's interesting the way the way these two

nations are dealing with these things. President Trump's saying more European nations especially need to take back their itist fighters and prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law, while near the United Kingdom and other European nations are trying to trying to keep them out because actually the publics in those countries don't want them to come back in and live at the taxpayer of behest in prisons and then be released into society. You ten, fifteen, twenty

years in advance. Raheem Kassam, everybody check out Raheim Kassam dot com for his latest writing and you'll also see him popping up on Fox and of course on this show, where he also is a very highly regarded guest host A Raheem h what do you think at switching gears here for a moment, we got a couple of minutes. What do you think about the emergency declaration? How did Trump play now that we've got a little more information

to work with here? How did Trump play this whole border situation, this whole negotiation Now, I'm not terribly well,

I'm afraid similarly to how the midterms were played out. Look, unfortunately President Trump, and you know, some would argue that this is a good thing, but I think unfortunately for some of the more maga oriented people President Trump does listen to some of the people in the goop political establishment, some of the never Trumpers, even the Mitch McConnell's of the world, so and so forth, and they those guys don't really want to go toe to toe with the Democrats.

They like to compromise. They're quite big fans of open borders. They're not quite sure where the party is going to go post Trump, and so they're just sort of biding their time and trying to tap him along. I think that's what happened in this circumstance, because I think the compromise that was reached with the Democrats there was no

form of compromise at all. In fact, you know, Nancy Pelosi might as well have been dancing and screaming from the rooftops when she saw the bill that the Republicans have now agreed to that the President has agreed to sign. And it also did the president great damage because shutting

down the government is one thing. Shutting down the government for a record amount of time, it's something that a lot of Americans were in the end paying attention to, and I don't necessarily think it did him any personal harm. But what it did do is sort of underscore the fact that he didn't get anything really from doing that. They don't mind to shut down here or there if it achieved something, but I don't think much was really achieved.

And I have to say, I think the emergency should have come a lot sooner, and I think it's a disappointment to a lot of people that it had to It had to go him for that long before he got there. Always good to hear from Rahem on this stuff, folks, is Raheem has been He may be the most maga loving brit of any brit on the planet, but he calls it like he sees it, So you know, I tend to agree with on this one. I don't think that Yeah who you and who? Me and Nigel Forge

constantly follow Yeah, well well I'll have you guys. I'll have you guys. Arm wrestle at Sea Packer. We can see who's the most maga loving brit there. But Rahim Kassam, everybody check out his ladies. He'll be feeling on this show soon. And you can also go to Rahem Kasam dot com and follow him on Twitter. Rahe Man, thanks for stopping by the Hut. Thank you, Katie. I wanted to wish you a happy President's Day. You know what

is George Washington's day here? Washington Day here in New York, unlike the rest of the country, because George Washington native son of New York, big up, big New Yorker, that's right, East Coast. He was known as an East Coast one. He was a It was New York's big papa. Okay, that was a couple of MSNBC anchors. Producer, Mike, is that like a millennial thing? Can you translate this for me? Native son of New York? Pretty sure? George Washington's from Virginia. Yeah,

I'm one hundred percent shores from Virginia. Yeah, I thought so. They apparently were not. Una. I'm gonna go out and say this right now, man, if if we did a civics test, you know how recently they said that I think like thirty percent of people that they pulled who are American citizens were able to pass the citizenship test, and it might even be less than that. But if we did a basic American history test of left wing

news anchors, I think people would be utterly appalled. I think that they would be shocked and appalled in a way where they would they would no longer even if they were Democrats, they would no longer be able to watch these people on TV. I mean, you'll never be able to see this through one way or the other. But I really believe that in my heart of Heart's like, if you ask Katie Turr to tell me, just just go through the most Beatie, where did the British finally surrender?

Do America? Like, we just go through the most grade school level stuff, I think that they would get crushed. I really do. Yeah, man, I mean that's I mean, I'm not even the history buff. I mean, I'm a novice when it comes to this stuff. But I'm sitting there watching that and I'm like, I knew in like three seconds. I'm like, oh my god, I'm what are

you serious? And she's telling me what to think every day. Yeah, it's it's it's astonishing well the way, speaking of people who don't know anything, we're telling us what to think. Amy Klobisher is still out there, somehow thinking that she should be running for president, which I think just the delusion that she is of the mind that she should run for president in and of itself is kind of disqualifying. But I think that the notion that she has any

real shot at this is crazy town. But she's out there and oh she's yeah the heartland, Yeah, don't you know. And she talked about gun control. Because if you're going to be a left wing Democrat who has any prayer of getting through even doing well in the primary, never mind winning the Democrat primary, you've got to be a gun grabber. And for somebody from Minnesota to be a gun grabber, I guess it surprises me just because I know about all the hunting and fishing in Minnesota and

I used to do some of that myself. But she doesn't have a basic understanding, it seems to me, of the Second Amendment play clip fourteen. Like New Hampshire, Minnesota is a state that values the outdoors. We value hunting and fishing. And so I come at it from a little different place than some of my colleagues that are running for this office, and that I always look at every proposal and say, would this hurt my uncle Dick in the deer stand? And I would say that these

common sense proposals in front of us do not. I don't see banning assault weapons, right, I don't think that in the deer stand has no idea what she's talking about. The Second Amendment is not, never was, and never will be about hunting. Hunting and the ability to have firearms for hunting is a nice byproduct of the Second Amendment. But the Second Amendment is not about hunting. It is about the right of the citizen rate to keep and bear arms as a check against government tyranny. Now lips

can laugh about that all they want. That is why it exists. That is why there is a second Hamdment and the right to defend oneself, defend one's home, defend one's hearth, all that stuff. So it is absolutely not about the right to go shoot, you know, whitetailed deer and pheasants and things like that. I'm actually going sporting clay shooting on Sunday, I'll have you know, So there's that.

I have a problem though, when I go sporting clay shooting, I am I'm cross dominant, and so my left eye is my dominant eye, even though I'm right handed, and so I have to deal with being a cross dominant shooter, which for sporting clays is really annoying because you have to either you can either become a left handed shooter with along. It doesn't matter with pistol because you can just tilt your head and the pistol. That's why I've

always been a pistol shooting is my favorite. But if you're a cross eyed dominant shooter and you're going after sporting clays or you're going bird hunting, you need to with the shotgun. You need to compensate and either go left handed or or you know, close one eye and use your other eye. And it's just a it's another thing. But you don't even know about my problems. So it's

gonna be fun though on Sunday, for sure. But Amy Klobischer doesn't really understand that gun control is not about hunting. So once again we have libs that want to control aspects of our lives without understanding those aspects in any meaningful sense. They just know that control is appealing to them. Telling us what to do is appealing to them, and that is that is all that they think they have to know. And they know that also the left wing

gun grabbers get excited about this stuff. So even though the chance of any legislation happening I think is small, it's always there. And if they could they would outlaw all semi automatic rifles. Just remember that, which would affect Uncle Dick in the Deer Standard. By the way, it's time for roll call. Roll call time. Oh yeah, roll call. I gotta get excited about it every time because roll call is oh so much fun. Let's get to it.

We have first up, Lucinda. Lucinda wrote into Facebook dot com slash buck Sexton, and here's what Lucinda has to say. I was listening to talk about the two movies you watched last weekend. I will probably wait to see into the Spider verse. However, I did see The Witch, and I'm traumatized from it. Perhaps I should not have watched it myself, but it is everything scary that I can imagine. I'm actually a little sorry I watched it. If you

can handle devil goat stuff, I recommend it. The only other movie that I'm sorry I watched was Rosemary's Baby. I really do enjoy listening to you. You give me hope that not everyone has gone crazy. Shields Well, First of all, Lucinda, cool name. Always nice to have an unusual and memorable name, says the guy named buck Sexton. Buckman Sexton. For those who like to come after me on Twitter for having a weird name. It's Buckman. It's

a family name. As for the movies. As for the movies that I have recommended and that we are, well, I should say I don't even know if I really recommended them so much as I just mentioned them. Brandon, have you seen Let me ask you, have you seen The Witch? I have? Scary, right, I mean, I think it's well done for the genre. You're you're talking to somebody who's insensitized. I've watched all the eighties horror, some of the most you know, human centipede kind of movies.

It was so it was all right, It's not super violent or like slash or stuff, but it is. It's creepy. But it was my horror opinion for whatever that means, a little overhyped, but it was still it was good. Look at you, hey, when it comes to horror, to be honest, what makes the hair stand up on the back of Brandon's neck for a movie? All right? That's what I want to know. What what what gets it done for you? It's got to be I think original and just like maybe a little bit kind of real

that like movie dude, I know, I thought you were asking. Okay, hmmm, let me think about that. Well, I will tell you my favorite movie of all times, Killer Killer Clowns from out of Space. Wow, have you ever seed? Is Mike there to make fun of you in person? Because that was an amazing revelation he stepped up. That's really a movie. Ye oh my god. They have popcorn guns and they suck blood out of crazy straws out of these cotton candy cocoons. It's that's insane, dude. I don't even know

how you do it. I'll just say this, man, I'll just I did see I did one see lepre Con five LEPrecon in the hood hood and I saw a LEPrecon I think it was four LEPrecon in space, which was another one, and I'm lec it is dude. When when Wayne in Wayne's World two did the whole LEPrecon thing, I it did really stick with me, because yeah, it was Anyway, I'm just saying, if you're somebody like me who thinks that the whole demonic possession thing is scary, you will find The Witch to be a scary movie.

It is bleak as well, though it's relentless, like there's nothing happy or funny or pretty in the movie. It's pretty much just one long ride and like one long descent into hell. Anyway, Lucinda, I'm sorry that you got creeped out by it. I did warn you, but you had seen it before I told you. I think as for next on, role called Randy Rights, Don Williams, Hank Williams, Merle Haggard, and I don't know why, but nobody has said Wayland Jennings, and that gives me the sads. I'm

assuming Randy, this is for my country music playlist. Now, I will say, guys, my country music playlist is pretty full right now, so I appreciate all the advice. I did ask for a team shout out of country music suggestions that said I got like a hundred songs in my playlists, So I'm good. I'm good right now. I appreciate it. We will, you know, move on to other Maybe I should ask for stock tips from the team

or something, you know, I should. I should, Really, what do you call it when you use every crowd crowdsource? I should crowdsource all kinds of things because the people who listen to this show are full of incredible knowledge about all kinds of stuff Kimberly Rights. Wonder if Jesse or Jesse rather that was me. I misread that was in cahoots with Booker and Harris to get publicity for their anti lynching bill. Harris's buddy buddy with the entire

Juss family. Huh, what did I don't know anything? Lynching bill? Is this? I assumed that lynching. Kamela Harris's anti lynching bill gets a second chance at becoming law. Well, this is okay, okay, you know what. Instead of just saying I don't know, team, I'm gonna I'm gonna bring us all up to speed here because I did not know

about this. So let's see what it says. Senator Kamala Kamela Harris's effort to make lynching a federal crime received new life Thursday when the Senate unanimously passed her bill to outlaw it. The bill, which is co authored by two other African Americans in the Senate, Democrat Corey Booker, New Jersey, Republican Tim Scott of South Carolina, unanimously passed the Senate late last year, but the House did not take it up before the Congressional Senate ended and the

bill session ended and U and the bill died. The Senate pass Harris's legislation this again Thursday. With Democrats in control of the House. It stands a strong chance of making to President Trump's desk. It criminalized criminal It criminalizes attacks based on gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, or disability if they involve crossing state lines or are facilitated by the internet, phone, or mail. Isn't that stuff already all illegal?

I'm just sort of confused. I feel like this is one of these laws that is outlawing stuff that's already illegal. But yeah, of course everybody's everybody is anti lynching, But lynching involves vigilante hate crime essentially, right, it's it's and it can be a murder, so it will be a hate crime murder. I just don't understand the specifics of what this makes illegal or makes a federal crime that's not really already a federal crime. But I'd have to

look into the bill. But yeah, you guys are right that are bringing up the anti lynching bill. This is a thing, and it's one that I just learned about now. So thank you for bring him to my attention. Robert writes Buck, I love your show. One bit of criticism, Oh, I can't stand the lame analogies. Nine times out of ten, the topic discussed is not needed analogy unless you have a few random lefties listening. I'm guessing your audience does

not need all the analogies to get the point. I listen on KLBJ, and you are by far the best show in the last ten years in this time slot. That said, I don't want to I don't want another analogy, or I'm gonna go okay, okay, all right, Robert, Robert, Buddy, loud and clear, loud and clear, I'm gonna take I'm gonna I'm gonna back off on, back off on the analogy. Sometimes the analogy comes from a place of me trying

to kind of collect my thoughts. As much as it is to explain something to folks who are listening, it's a way to consolidate my own thinking. I do think that the analogies, for example, about the wall and a lock on a door, can be helpful, but you know it's not worth overplaying it. That said, I will, out of deference to you and our wonderful KLBJ Austin audience, I will avoid unnecessary analogies, but give me some credit.

I also avoid as much as anybody can that speaks for three hours without a script, I avoid filler words pretty well, pretty I'm not saying I'm perfect. Some of you say, you say like and I mean and yes, I know, But if you listen to another radio show and you listen to this radio show, I will just tell you that my transcript has a lot less yeah like I mean like yeah, I mean like a lot of that out there and the rest of radio land. Just I'm just saying, just saying, give credit where its due.

Brent writes, watching you live on Shannon Bream, get it, Buck Root rooting for you. Well, thank you so much, Brent, appreciate that. I had fun last night. I was with my my buddy Charlie Kirk from Turning Point You essay, was also on the libs must Run and Hide in Fear when Buck and Charlie are on the same segment at the same time. Leonard, right, Your Robert O'Rourke isn't bad, but it needs to be breathier. Also observe his speech cadence.

He pauses breathlessly about every six to eight words. He sort of he sort of does this thing where he's just like so excited when he's talking and it's like he just worked out, but he didn't. No. I agree that my O'Rourke is pretty good. We all know that, all right. My Beaeto is pretty decent. But I can certainly work in a little bit. Sometimes it sounds a little too much like the guy from Napoleon Dynamite, and I know that, but he kind of reminds me of

that guy. And impersonation often you peg it to somebody that is a more extreme version of the person that you're trying to impersonate. Christine right talking about AOC. She wants me to pay the taxes, not her. Well, Christine, that is true. She does not want to pay the taxes herself. She wants everybody else. This is trueho lives in general. Though they want other people to have to pick up the bill, they do not want to pick up the bill themselves. Susanne Ryan's hey, Buck, I love

your show. Susan, we love you. Thank you for listening. She's a podcast listener. She writes, My question is ken and will they be able to prosecute or do something about Smolette creating a false hate crime? And false statement. I mean, at least get him to pay back some of the taxpayers money wasted. Shields I sue, sue shield tie to you. And yes, they can do something about this.

I don't know if they will. They should, but I think that there's going to be because the media is gonna run interference and they're gonna back off as I think that there's going to be a real effort to say, well, he suffered enough and let's not make him suffer more and all that kind of stuff, And I just I would rather that not be the case. But we will have to see. But Susan, because I think it's important.

I think it sends a very bad message if somebody can get away with doing what he did in the way that he did it, the egregious planned out nature of it too, and the drain on resources, the drain on resources that comes as a result of this. So you've got it. If you're not going to draw a line in the sand on this one, if you're not going to try and hold someone accountable for a FAKEK

crime in this instance, when are you going to do it? All? Right, team, that's gonna be this episode of The Buck Sex Did Show Thank you so much for listening and honor. A privilege and a pleasure to have you hanging out with me in the hut. I got a lot more in mind already for the rest of the week, so be sure to tune in. However you tune in, talk to you tomorrow, Shields High,