#63: Extra Stuffing...This Is A TryptoPHANTASTIC Episode + An Interview with Anthony Cumia

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that goes out hashtag scary. Well that's the hashtag. That's something the slices decided that I love the slices. We gotta do a meet up at some point. I'm a little jealous. Our friend Jake and Ricky, they have their twenties Something's Doing Nothing podcast. They had their very first meet up at a bar over this past week and I followed him on on social media. They were putting up video video instant stories and I'm watching them. Had a great time, and I was thinking of going, you

were thinking of going. I end up doing what we had other things that we were doing, and I was getting fomo and you were staying home. O uh nope, nope, nope, I was staying at my home. Not that's something wrong with that. So listen. Um, we had a couple of things going on today. First of all, welcome, We're gonna be welcoming a friend of ours a little later on. Yeah, this is and by the way, just so you know, when you hear the interview, this is all time shifted.

We recorded this on a separate day, right, and so we already know it's a great interview. Yeah, because we already recorded it. Right, you're gonna here. We're gonna play it back at the end of this part of that. You can jump ahead, but we'll we'll introduce and explaining interview when we get to it. But it's long, but it's worth it. Yeah, and it's we can tell him who it is, well, you know it's in the podcast descriptions. So it's Anthony Kumia from from a radio show that

went was nationally syndicated. It was a huge show in America, but especially in New York from that's fifteen years and also if you're if you listen to us here in Boston, you might remember them from there. Out on Long Island was where they got their start, of course, but they were on serious satellite radio and mornings and afternoons in they feuded with Howard all the time. They were kind of a big deal and uh, little did we know there was a lot of drama going on backs behind

the scenes. The co host didn't like each other for most of the time they worked together. We got a little behind it. I mean, they did a show much different than the others Train Morning show and I'm I'm a fan, but Brody you are and I said it, you are a super fan. So I I actually at the time, uh signed up for satellite radio because to hear their show. And they're great guys. But Anthony specifically,

who's going to be here? He wrote a book called Permanently Suspended because he gets fired and suspended from job. Here's the thing. If you don't know who Anthony is, even if we just described into you, well you didn't like the show back in the day, irrelevant. This is a funny interview with a guy who just bears his soul, talks about everything. We had a lot of fun with him,

Brooklyn Boys style. He laid it all out on the tip And so if you ever wondered what a radio a show sounds like, that does really crazy stuff that we would never get away with on on the air. Uh, It's it's a nice little look into the world of radio and the fact that he was feuding with his co host all time, and that text message, I'll forget about it all right. Luckily you and I get along for now. But I do, as always, have a bone to pick with you. Of course you do. Is it

a turkey like a wishbone or something. It's about cheese Thanksgiving, It's about cheesecakes. There's an Italian restaurant near our radio station, right is Peppolino's Pepino Pepolinos and by the way, with a name like Peppolinos. You know, the food is good, right, the food is great. But it was a point where

I had never been there. We had moved into this area to these studios, and we were here for years, and every time Scary and I walked by this place, he said, you know, the cheesecake is one of the highest rated cheesecakes in New York. It's true. And I would say, yeah, yeah, and you told me jus famous cheesecake right here. But this place has got is the gat rating. It's okay, And every every time we would

pass it, secare we go? You know this play? Yeah, I know, I know, you know like that that's thing, you know, like that all your old uncle. Every time you see him, he's like, remember that story with the gum when you were five. That's what he's scared with this cheesecake. So about a year ago we finally got to eat there. Elvis took us all there for a going away party for our friend Ronnie. So good, so good, right, six eight months ago. That was the last time he

spoke to you, boy, Ronnie. Right, yeah, that dick, And I'm trying to get him on the phone. Still he wouldn't. By the way, you know that he saw the miscall the other night. They when we were trying to get him on the phone. Right, he still hasn't call me back when he screens your calls. All right, So ball freak Rannie was going away party. We go there and

I knew to have the cheesecake. When you walked in, there was a big cheesecake on like the waiters area, like the prep area, like when because they must sell so much of it, they haven't ready. Okay, So of course Scary starts in with you know this places the best cheesecake. All right? We all got everyone's hurting story and then everyone's eating cheesecake. Is that the best cheesecake? It does plays famous with cheesecake. We've cheesecake the funk

out of the cheesecake. Okay, so you're at s Our show, Well you've heard on this podcast. She leaves the show. She moved out to l A. So we went to last week. We had a good bye lunch for by lunch for her, and of course the minute we were walking over there, scary, tell everybody you got cheesecaked Gandhi Gandhia I newest member. Gandhi Italiano cheese, Italian cheese, so light area and if you're not from the northeast, it

means Italian Ricotta. We pronounce anyway. Okay, okay, So we're all stuff in our faces and we're like, oh, we don't even move with dessert's get discerned the cheesecake, you know. And it's like we know, we know, because after like the thirty nine time per day, it's like we know that the point is the problem with can I get excited for food? You always get excited a vote. The problem is you the cheesecake can't be as good as the recommendation you give every time we walk by the place.

Every time one everyone to taste what I'm taste right, but we should go. Hey, try the cheesecake out here. It's pretty good. No, it's the best cheesecake this area. Code it's the best. That God says, yeah, it's it's heaven and a mouthful. That God says, you should you should do you sleep with the cat sheets. But like your bed sheets have the GAT ratings on them, you know what, they might as well. But because I yeah, the thing is, if I'm enjoying great food, I want

everyone to enjoy food. Oh my god, I'll tell you how they cannot because despite all of my warnings and all of my clamoring, producer Jake said, well, I'm gonna have the kramber lay. He didn't even take me under advisement at the bastard because it's over over over over. It's like when people go, you gotta watch, you gottatch ok. I can't watch ozok now because it can't be as good as everyone you gotta watch. Oh my god, ok Ozark.

That's not a bone. I'm sorry you didn't. You have a bone to pickre you know why, because I'm gonna the next time we go to Peppolino's, i gotta hear about the cheesekaking Peppolino also a great Italian mouse. Peppolino the Italian Mouse was a great song for the sixties. Yeah, I know where is that Peppino, pepo the Italian You want you want to? Really? You know what a bone is. Here's a bone that I have to pick with somebody, and it's not with you. I'm gonna talk about somebody

behind their bath in that case. Let okay, Well, you know you know my buddy Brian. You know buddy Brian Brinan Phillips, No buddy, Yeah, yeah, he's a d J in Chicago. He's a long time Brooklyn buddy. He grew up in Marine Park, not far from us. What nobody kiss? What is called I don't know if you checked the tile, It's called the Brooklyn Boys podcast. You know what I'm saying. But it's like the Insider the neighborhood, Marine Park, Brooklyn. You and I are right now. I was going that

I went to Brooklyn College with him. Okay, worked in the college radio station. Fantastic. Well, your friends a long time, like a long time friends anyway, they get it up. You don't have a lot of long time friends. Forties and every few weeks. He comes back to the to the to New York right to hang out. Yeah. Now you think a guy in the mid forties, you know what, I want to stay at a hotel. No, he doesn't do that. I want to crash on your couch. Your couch. Yeah.

He calls you up. He says, hey, I'm be in town. Yeah, I'm gonna crash on your couch. I said. He works at radio, has a real job. He has a job, he can afford it, and he crashes on my couch. But we're boys, and I like it and I enjoy it, and that's not the problem. Can I enter up for a second? Thursday? Huge snow storm in New Jersey and New York. Huge took me five hours to get home. Where should have taken me thirty five minutes. I come out of the Holland Tunnel. At that point, I was already, uh,

forty five minutes to an hour into my journey. So I text my wife. I say, hey, I just got of the tunnel. I don't know. It's so far smooth sail and sort of hopefully I'll be home in an hour. She says, the roads are horrific. I said, no, I'm looking at the roads. They look okay, just you should probably stay at Scary's house. See everyone, my house, my

costa suit, costa. But you're right by the top. So you're saying, if I texted you out of nowhere with no toilet, trees, no clothes, nothing, and said I'm coming over, I got to spend the night, of course, you would have been fine. My couches belonged to you know, your couch, Yeah, my couch as hard as a rock, feel all I got. It's either my bet on my couch. You didn't buay a comfy couch. You bought a photograph couch. You bought the kind of couch to people look at the magazine.

That's another topic on my list, what photographed couches, Couches that are okay, that are aesthetically pleasing, but they're not for comfortable. I didn't know that. Your fucking couch. It's on my light blue couch, right, that's on my list. You have a couch brown brown? Right, you have a brown what's light blue? The chairs? The chairs a light blue, the couches brown. The carpet is light blue and brown. It's all coordinated. Expresso. It's it's an expressos Brown, you're

from Brooklyn, it's it's ship from Italian. It's Express, It's ship Brown Italian, it's you ps point, it's real leather. And I paid a lot of money for right with the chaise. It's got a chase with the point. The chase, cha cha chase, I call chase, right, I don't think it's chase. All right, Well, anyway, there's the point. I get the phone to tell me right now. The point I'll do it, okay. The point is. The point is I don't want to say you need a better couch

for company. I pull out couch with the bed. I live in a one bedroom apartment. Yeah, I take the bed, and whoever is the guest. That's not right. A real, real, real host would say I'll take the couch. People like Gregg t have slept on that couch. I should sleep in the bed, though, come over, Well you to sleep on the couch, couch. You bought that couch. You should pay for it. You should pay the price. All right. What I'm saying is this, I'd rather sleep on the

You're lucky. You're lucky you're inviting yourself over in my house. Well, I just you can do is sleep on my couch. The couch is really hard. Anyway, I got a bad back. My point is that, Okay, I know you do. You don't care. Let me tell you if the couch as hard as a rock, as hard as a rock for your back. No, it's the kind of bad back. It does not. It needs, it needs, it needs uh form

fitting curvature. Okay, that's what I need. We needs soft couch. Well, let me let me tell you this handed leather, oh couch reclimate. Chance greg t sleeps on the couch. Who else? Bald freak Rannie, the guy who's my friend that look, he won't call you back. Is that couch is terrible? He seems on my couch hashtag few hard couch. Well, anyway, so so they all sleep on my couch. Well, when Brian comes over my house, he sleeps on my couch.

But here's think about you. Ever go to furniture store to buy a couch and you sit on the couch. You go, who the fuck is buying this couch? Because it's so awful? Right, you got like you go to say like you expect to go like and fit in the couch, and then you sit like on concrete and it goes boo and it stops you short. Okay, nobody wants a couch like that's my girlfriend, she hates the couchch Well, but well, why are you doing around the couch bringing to the bed? Hey? Can we can we

go back to the time. By the way, what are you doing your girl on the couch? Do you point out that it's uppresso? You know this couch is a suppresso. Stop that shut up, Anthony, keep doing it, listen to me. But hey, come on all right, back to back to the couch. Couch by the way, f you obnoxious color guy, it's brown blue. No, it's it's when you get clote. When you got on the catalog online, did you this

is slate? Okay, the shirts slate, I'll tell you. I just want just bought jeans and I went with the colors Brody, So I bought, I went and back. I went to American Eagle. I tried them on and then I looked on retail me Not, which is a great app and it showed me that they will online sales only, so I had to go and buy them online. But I had to try to remember what they are. So there's medium wash light tinted wash, which is like authentic light.

Is that dark rich indigo you've never seen, like like quartz, That shirt is quartz. It's it's that red. No, but that they use fancy names. They shades of everything, shades of authentic. What is authentic light as opposed to light tint is that light tinted isn't even light. It's dark, but not as dark as the dark rich in. They go, Okay, if you could have colors like quartz and slate and and and emerald, I can have. I just want to buy blue, red and great. Can have an espresso couch anyway,

it's brown. My couches there, My couches there for aesthetics. And it's modular furniture. It's modern contemporary living. Okay, it's so so that's a lot of words, not modern contemporary living. Who calls the furniture that it's modular? It's got his fit in my apartment. My apartment has a very specific dimension to it. I can't go to fucking Raymored Flannagan doorways and doorway listen. Raymored Flanagan has made there there there. Furniture is big and bulky and made to hold to

be in those biggests that comes in all sizes. You come, No, I have a tiny apartment. I got get successful. Why don't you get a better apartment? You know what, let's a tellwagon the dog go. We get back to the open. The refrigerator bangs into the couch. You make a lot of money. God. Back to Brian. So Brian, com don't you want to stay your shitty apartment? Still small? Okay? He comes here because it's free, that's why. And if it's for free, it's from that's a hashtag. If it's

for free, it's for me. That's how we feel. Anyway. So Brian comes over and he does this every time. And I don't know if you have a friend that does this or if you've ever done it growing up. I have good friends. This is what he does. He goes out, he sees all his friends at night, gets drunk, ties one on, and he comes home to my apartment and at three o'clock in the morning, somewhere in the middle of the night, he broke a tooth on the couch.

I jumped ahead, I'm sorry. He goes into my bathroom and he falls asleep on the toilet, still softer than your couch. Hashtag toilet Brian, hashtag toilet bed. He literally, he literally comes in and I don't know what it is. He gets drunk. When he's drunk, he will come in and he will go in the bathroom and he will sit on the toilet. I've got pictures of him in Vegas because we shared a hotel room together. At at three o'clock in the morning, I'm like, what's going on?

I walk it. I walk into the room and I'm like, Brian, are you there? And he's not in his bed. He's got his own bed. We'll share a room and the fucking guy is in the bathroom with the door open. Well, he can't only see much because he's like, you know, covering he's but he slumped over and he's he's on the toilet. I have pictures of Brian on the toilet. I'm gonna post post it. Okay, pictures of Brian. Okay, picture of Brian toilet on the toilet. He does it everywhere.

I don't know what it is. I said, Brian, you gotta stop this. Are you sleepwalking? Here's the worst part. He doesn't even he doesn't even go into the bathroom. He just sits on the toilet, pulls his pants downs it's on the toilet, and leans over and slumps over, and he falls asleep in that position for hours. The good positions, the toilet is comfortable. Well, why does he do that? Now? Last night? Thing? Hold on before you call him. He went out with all his boys, right,

didn't invite you? Did he? Pretty much? Wow? He's somebody which is worse? Which is worse? Uh? Your boy? Uh? Who doesn't return your calls? R answered the phone? Oh this guy who uses me. I'm gonna call him right now. I'm calling him right now. We call him toilet, Brian, Hey, toilet. There's no way he's answering. He's on the air right now, isn't he's a former? No, No, he's at my apartment day. He's here all week. Why would he answer the phone. He can be making collect calls on your phone. He's

probably still distance. The guy passes out and he doesn't wake up for hours. I'm over for two here. Ronnie would answer my calls? You have the worst friends? What is it? What does his phone number come up? Ass? Oh my god, I'm gonna call him again. It's a call from different number. Anyway, The point is this. I don't know if toilet Brian needs an intervention. I don't know if I should just let him to sleep on the toilet. You know, I say it's you know, Mikasa sukasa,

but he takes it to a whole new level. This guy, he really does. Let me get him right now. You got him on the phone. I can answer your apartment phone. No, I'm calling his house. I'm calling his line again. You should call Ronnie and Briant and see if we'll it's out to the place a bed. Who's gonna see a phone? The two voice mails will be talking to each other because they're not. Neither one of them is answering my calls to This is wasted time on a podcast. Your

friends don't like you. What is I'll put this? They don't want to answer my fucking call. I think it's your couch truthfully, okay, anyway, toilet Brian, he this is what I don't know. But where have you passed out before? Drunk? Where have you? I mean, isn't a toilet bowl? Just slumped over a weird place? And you think he might have a secret fetish with that? Does he dream about it?

And I think you sit down with the intention to go into the bathroom before you go to bed, so well, he could have peen, he could have flushed, and he just sits there hours in a time. Did I do that when I'm awake and sober? How is he up? How has he hurt his back? I don't know. I'm just saying it's just a little weird for me. Anyway, this is what happens. This is a Thanksgiving traditions from me, the holiday traditions. Honest, my friends come in and they use me for my toilet and my bed and my

and my freaking and my my. Again, don't mention couch because they don't use it for that. Absolutely, don't. I think. I think if we put up a pole, you should put up a pole on Brooklyn. Boys, wtf would you rather have a comfortable couch or a magazine worthy couch because you did not buy that couch for comfort, but I wanted to look nice when people walk in, so then they don't want to sit down though. You know what,

you can't have it both ways. You get yourself a big leather couch with double recliners, and that's people like, oh yeah, Corny's not right. Now most of our audience has them. I have them. I'm sure they do of them, I know, but I want to hit the button on the side, put my feater up. My mother and father have that. I can lay down. The armrest is a pillow done after Thanksgiving, me a meal off, watching the football game, and then you push on the armrest and

it reclines. Nothing better than that. I would never have that in my apartment. You will never see that. You want to sit on that hard brown espresso couch. You sit down, your pants fall and you're like stuffed, but vomit. I'm sorry. I want a nice looking apartment. I want everything to look beautiful. I'd rather be comfortable beautiful. So so you know what, you sack your Felix on Oscar and the odd couple. Okay, so so be it that that's the case. By the way, I want a public service.

I've been wanting to just want a public service. I want to give everybody a public service announcement for Thanksgiving Day. Okay, Um, this has bothered me, boggled my mind actually for several years, and every every Thanksgiving morning I issue the same tweet. There are so many people brodie that are fooled. They don't realize that by pre Brian Turkey. Nope, that on Thanksgiving morning when they go watch the parade, people don't realize it. But only NBC has the official rights to

the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade. So what is what do they get? They get Al Roker and everybody and Savannah whoever is they're They're all sitting there and they have all the attention on. They got front and center, they got the best view, they got everything. They show you the entire parade. They are, they are the officials. They show you the head on when the when the parade float stops in front of Macy's and they performance of performances. By the way, those were filmed in August. Well, I

know know something. You know not when the floats stops in front of Maze, it's all lip SYNCD. It's all taped. That's lip sync. But no, but but no, the visual of the float coming down and the artists on the float is live. No, no, no, no no, it's live until I get to the front of Macy's and they cut the old footage of people singing. Those people are gonna sing in the cold. You can't see their breath and you can't see their breath. It was taped on No no, no, the the audio soundtrack is, but not

the video. No no, no, oh no, it's all taped earlier. We've talked to artists that no, no, no, no, no, no, Brodie, you're getting it. They filmed, I'm telling you, they filmed months in advance, months, no months. When you on Thanksgiving morning when you see those floats coming down, and then they say, all right, and now here's Michael Bublet on this float. Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade. Singing acts prerecorded, They

prerecord the vocals, the audio is prerecording. No, but no, but Brodie, you still can't see their breath because their lips sinking. So you're but that lip sinking is done. Even when you when you lip sink, you breathe and and cold air comes out. You're wrong, Brodie, b You're wrong. But but that we had we had a band on here that admitted that they taped it ready. I think it was one direction when they were still together, they said, oh yeah, we already recorded. Might be one or two acts,

but the majority of them are live. But that wasn't my point. You always divert me. I never divert. My point was, oh, did you see what they have? An ken? I'm kidding. I was that was a joke because I diverted. It's all good. But my point is this on Thanksgiving morning, everybody's watching NBC except for those people that don't realize that they're getting a bootleg version of the parade on CBS.

Hey is NBC a sponsor? I don't know about No Brody, I'm being honest, And people listening to this podcast on CDs. The parade is called the Thanksgiving Day Parade, and their cameras and their footage advantage point is like like from a fucking rooftop that they convinced somebody to let them like hang out there for a while. I get it, it's not they don't get and they don't get the performances. They don't get the and now here's the rockets. They

don't get any of that. Maybe maybe get the soundtrack. They don't get any of that. They get their reporters. So a lot of people are like, why am I watching balloons go by? But there's no performances. This is boring this year. So every Thanksgiving morning I issue a tweet that says, Hey, everybody, the macy Thanks Parade is on NBC. They're the ones with the full rights to the whole thing. Question, And then people are thanking me on Twitter for pointing that out. Be like, oh my god,

I was watching CBS the whole time. CBS gives you a boot like all the other channels give you a bootleg version of the parade because they're not they're not the actual people that are sponsored every question. Yeah, um, you have an appearance on Thanksgiving Day? Right? Correct? Uh? And uh you get paid a little extra because it's Thanksgiving. Yes, where's that appearance on Thursday? It's at Macy's. Harold Square, hit the chiggle, your bastard, hit this whole thing. You

issue a tweet, You issue a tweet. You have the same appearance that a year at Macy's on Nanksgiving. But that's a five PM. That's a matter. Client has nothing to do you stuck it up to Macy's. Has nothing to do with are you? Are you not going to send a copy of this audio to Macy's and the people going to this sales people? You know what you're going to Oh you're such a chill No, no, no, no,

When I'm talking about, Oh, they would never performing. Hey, what I'm trying to tell you is this, there are people that get it wrong. How do you not know that this is about I don't think it's amazing thing, that it's a major thing. People. Okay, people switch all up people, you know what? The balloons go by and with no performances, which by the way, are done right then and there, but their lip SYNCD they are not done in August. I don't know what you're talking about, Brodie.

They prerecord all the voices and some relations, but not that they're telling you. Sometimes the artists can't be there, so they prerecord it, so they prerecord video of them walk, you know, flying down, they roll the thing up, so they so they block off four street us for that in August. Ye, it's the street. Get They blocked off the street for us for a jingle Bowl announcement ing announcement. They blocked off the street, Brodie, they're not recording video

in August of artists coming down the street. And by the way, when you see that, it'll only be on NBC. It won't be on CBS video. You are so thick headed sometimes, but I'm right, you're wrong no, the voices, they don't sing, they lip sync. That's done in advance, but not the video. The video of them coming down the street is done right there, Al Roker is pointing at them. It's the oldest trick in the book. No

it's not. You're wrong now I'm fighting to be right. No, right, thank you for this ration of have yet another jingle. I wrote that one too. I rease jingles about me because you're wrong. Thanksgiving parade. Yes, their lip sinking, but that video is live and happening. And by the way, once again NBC has the access c Nobody cares. It's a stoopid it's a stupid parade. It's balloons. We get it. You can watch last year's parade. It's the same ship.

You know. You should do DVR it and then zip through it at twice the speed Boopooproop have new acts every year. They added four balloons. Oh okay, so now they have like, let's say, Pikachu. I'm not saying that's the new one this year. Oh look there's a Pikachu filled with air. Wow. Oh look there's Snoopy. They brought back up. I'll roker, oh old favorite Snoopy first brought to the parade in ninety seven. This one takes a fifteen people to hold them down and holds seventy undred

tons of helium. That's not Oh, it's good to see all Snoopy again. Look what his Peanuts gang. You're tiny daggers at my childhood and the worst script ever written. Snoopy the red baron out that I like to watch the video. I just want the video. I don't need to. It's the cat in the hat looking for his one fish to fish redhen Garfield comes down, or Woody Woodpecker. Oh it's Garfield. He's looking for his lasagna again. We get it. You don't like to what part of the

country is going lasagna? Oh? It gets me every year. You don't like watching the You don't at least the TV. I make it a point. I make it a point to sleep. I don't cook. It's until noon. What time do you wake up? Well, you're awful, bro, I have no interest in watching the parade. You are a mean man. Mr Gradge. Oh, here comes Grinch. He's gonna spoil Christmas for all the kids as he comes down sixth Avenue, fifth Avenue, whatever the six fifth Avenue he's gonna put

coal in your stockings. Watch that, boys and girls, Well that I can do with that. It comes Popeye, he's looking for all of all. He just had his spinach. Look out big, his muscles off, green, giant float coming down. Oh who doesn't? And look he's got sprout with them all. Let's prop alone. So you don't. You can't appreciate that at least as visual in the background while you're cooking nothing. No, first of all, I just told you I don't cook helping your wife set the table. Why do you think

my wife sets the table? What do you do doing? Don't you set the table while your wife? I mean, what do you guys? What is your Thanksgiving tradition? I call a restaurant and say, is it too late to make reservations? Really? Yeah, we're going out this year? Where are you going? Uh? We're doing Ruth Ruth Chris apostrophe. You're doing that on a free gift card that you're pan pan actual full price. Well, we'll see how the night goes. It always starts at full price until they

do ship and then they give you money. We we did the Thanksgiving special at Ruth's Chris Steakhouse. All about four or five years ago, had a great meal. Great meal was the sweet potato casserole part of that so good? That's like crack. This year, my daughter, the vegan is joining us, your daughter, the vegans. So we're going to a steakhouse. And I had to make sure that they can prepare all the vegetables and stuff they vegans. She doesn't even she doesn't even fish of veganese, vegan veganese.

He's vegan. So they have to prepare everything veganese and style. So what what do what can she eat? What does a veganese eat? Steamed vegetables and cardboard tofu? Soy all that she's good a vegetables. She she loves vegetables. She makes very healthy Yeah sure, yeah, all right, wow so she doesn't need Wow, that's crazy, man, But I give her credit. She's not complaining about going there. She's like not, she's cool about it. So the family is going to Chris.

And for those of you don't remember, I think we've talked about it. It's Chris Steakhouse was in New Orleans, I think, and Ruth bought it. So it's it's it's harror because you don't want to change your name because it was established already as Chris Steakhouse, right, so it's Ruth's Chris Steakhouse, not Ruth Chris. Yeah, Ruth's. You tire me out. You just read the sign sometimes people. So we have some email that we've been holding off on, but we could continue to hold off on it. We

because we we have to interview Anthony Kumia. We have that coming up. We do. I have some bad resumes and then he'll say this for next time. I do have a bunch of tweets that I wanted to get to and I think I have a quick a quick rand told on a second. Oh, bathroom towel soap guy. We talked about this guy for a minute. Sometimes you go to the bathroom and you're in a swanky place, right, and they have the guy in there, the bathroom soap guy. He's the Franquent Skuy. He's got he's the guy who

gives you a score. Hes just he's holding he's holding the soft soap. But he was. Now do you remember before soft soap when it was just bar soap? No? Did they What did they do back then? They just hand your bar soap? I don't know they unwrap a little like I feel like there was always a time where there was flower shaped soap, liquid soap. There was always liquid soap. Really, you think your father was using

liquid soap in the shower when he was fifteen. Maybe they didn't have bathroomintendance then then maybe those people all they have you seen these bathroomintendants they still from when you fallow to stand hold on a second. You mean to tell me that when people would go to bathrooms and restaurants and bars, they had bar soap only in these places that's unsanitary. To the Chinese restaurant used to go to until I was had kids had a bar so they all share. That's disgusting. I didn't use it.

So yeah, so good. So missed sometimes and sometimes you're you're feeling like fancy you go to place and they go, sir, would you like a napkin and a little towel or they give you a little hot towel, towers they throwing a hamper. Those guys I'm good with. But when they go into the papper towel to spencer and hand your pepper towel and to give a little squirt, I could have done it myself. And you try. So when we went off with the corner O'Brien thing, they had a

guy in the bathroom. Right, little squirre the guy, tell squirt guy, and so the right there were four sinks at sinc number one to the right, closest to the door, he had little jar candies hit the tip jaws. Right, he had his little that's a whole other topic bathroom candy about it. But I don't know if I want they got. So I go to the sink on the left. Two reasons. One, I don't need his service. I'm good right now. Two, I'm in a hurry. Three I already know I have not a dollar in my pocket. I

have no money. So to save the guy the trouble from working for free, because that's rude, I go, no, I'm good. I'm going to sick number four. I'm going to sink one. He's a sink four right, I read left, right, sink one's on the left. I am a Jew, but I don't this is in the Hebrew sink. So I go to the first one and I'm like, I'm gonna get my own soap. He comes flying in like a condor. Who is here, sir, that's what he's there. He's hustling every day. I'm hustling, damn hustling. So I go, okay,

all right, and I washed my hands. Now I'm taking a really long time to wash my hands and hopes he'll go to somebody else. Nope, it hopes someone towel, right, And this way you can and I can grab I can grab a towel from the towel to Spencer next to me, because he's got the one next dam And I saw I'm waiting for the guy in the he's in there. He's not coming out. The guys in the stall. I hear him flush. So I'm like washing my hands, washing my hands, and he's looking at me like, you

motherfucker just finished washing your hands. I can towel your ass, and I don't want him. A towel makes out every money. Yeah, of all reasons to not tip, it's always that one. For me, it's I don't have I don't have anything in my way and I feel like that and I feel like that's a fifty cent kind of tip. I feel like for a squirt and handing me a towel, that's a dollar I give the guy. Okay, it's a dollar. How much do you give the guy for bringing you

a car round at a valet? Three dollars? Three? Whoa, whoa? Three dollars? Now I know I don't have a bigger apartment. You read how much do you give to the valet? Got two dollars? Like there's a big difference. There is a difference because two dollars is twice what the regular average person gives. They give a dollar. I supposed to give a dollar for valet. And you drive a fancy cost you give extra money cause you have a fancy car. I think three dollars. And let me tell you something.

If I'm at a fancy event like a wedding, or if they know that I'm scary Jones, I'm giving them five. Okay. What if you go to a wedding and you're causing like the third spot, and he walks over agains, you call him boom right there, drives ten feet, You get him five bucks. It's not about the distance he put in. It's about it's it's just about etiquette. It's if I see my car that close, I go, he's gotta What if he's gotta run around the block and it takes

him fifteen minutes to retrieve your car. He's technically gone a long distance, but really gotten has given you worse service? Or did he drive my car on the block four or five times, speeding it with the hemim all over the place. So you're charging him for gas now? And I think that the longer distance he goes, the longer and inconvenience it is. And let's just say an average cars up front, I'm paid a top dollar. You're you're an idiot. Why he had you know, he's he's he knows,

he's considered. He's like, you know what your time is valuable? Your front thirty seconds, boom boom, here's your car, buddy that service with a smile. That's five bucks. That's he did nothing. What if he's not even the guy who parkeded? Oh come on, and don't tell me they pull the tips because there's no proof of that. I so you're telling me, let's say, average tip two dollars, average tiptoo dollars. Okay, you admit three dollars, a little overboard, average tip is

two dollars. Are you telling me that getting going to walk to a car, protecting it and driving all the way backing and opening the door for your wife, for your girlfriend, and let you go, sir, here you go, give your keys and fancy spancy treatment. Hold on, let's say it's two dollars. Okay, let's say it's two Is that really? What is that? Are you saying the soap guy, paper towel, soap guy is really worth only a dollar less than that? Like? Is he really worth that much?

If the car guys getting too for doing all that work going up the elevator to get your car, bringing it around, make sure he doesn't scratch it. He's got your he's got the life of your car in his hands. He scratches that car, it will never be the same. That guy gets two three dollars, And the scuirty hand soap guy with the towel, paper towel, scorty paper towel guy gets a buck. I don't know about that. No, no, no,

well that's a service. I don't So. Then here's there's a certain excited want so so then okay, compare it to what if I want to want to go to a restaurant. Guy grabs my coat and I have to tip enough check in my coat? What compare it to the shampoo girl at the at the haircut place. If you tip for a hair cut, I don't know how much is your haircut and you tip for like seven eight bucks maybe ten bucks bucks for a tap? Are you crazy? How much you're paying for a haircut? What

hair cuts places are you going to? I go to a salon, I go to the girl you used to go to. I don't go there anymore. I will I go there cost me more than money for a hair eighteen bucks and that's I feel like that's expensive. I tipped ten dollars. That's more than a dollar a minute. How much you give the shampoop person. I don't go for a shampoo like chip holmoehm an adult. No, but see hypothetically I have to give her three dollars. Now give it two bucks. Depends on the haircut, if expense.

If I give your haircut, do all your hands on your eyebrows. I can still watch. You gotta work harder on my hair. Yeah, because you got grease in it. Because you got more of it and you got grease. Dude, you have for your hands all day one of a sudden fall out, you still got receiving hairline on the sides or there Okay, you do that's forehead whatever. Dude kicks digmy. I never said they didn't brody and scary. Whatever. Hey, are you going to any football game? By the way,

the hairline wouldn't be receiving be increasing. We both actually whatever, whatever you are, you you gonna do any tailgating? No, well that means you're not going to any jet you've given up in your jets already. No, but can I tell you my daughter went to a football game, a college football game, for the first time, and she tailgated. So of course I said, now, now she's eighteen. So I said, now, wait a minute. If you tailgate, you only do two things. You eat hot dogs and sausages,

or you drink. And you're a vegetarian. Why can you have both? Hold on first story? And I said, and you're a vegetarian. So she gave me the look like the cat that swallowed the goldfish. And I said, and I know you didn't drink it eighteen, so it must have been a bo time for you. And she's like, oh, yeah,

boring you. Well, if you're going to a tailgate, we recommend a specific hot dog for you, and that would be people already know if you didn't, just if you're listening to this and you didn't mouth the word Feltman's, you know when you start coming, my mouth is water with Feltmon's right now, Feltman's hot Dogs. There's no nitrates, no nitrites, no filler in there. This is a clean tasting hot dog. It's so good and it doesn't have that salty after taste like other hot dogs have. They

come in a package. They come in a package, right, there's a selling point right to store and they're thrown all over the place package and then not that though. But they have skinless versions and they have the regular version. And by the way, you did not say extra skin version, almost like did I really have extra skin versions? But here's the thing the guy said, I try him. Yeah, exactly that good. Feltman's of Coney Island dot com. F E. L. T. M A N S. Of Coney Island dot com. We've

had them on the Morning show Elvis Dosters for them. Yeah, well, well you have, but you can't do that in the website. It'll screw it up. Understand that. Go there and um you could find out where you can pick these up there on you can get them online Amazon dot com. Amazon, you go to King's, Balducci, Mrs Green's and they're also coming soon this next month to stop and shop. Okay, that's big. But the best part about Feltman's is the

story behind it. Charles Feltman invented the hot dog in eighteen sixty seven, and Nathan worked for him as a bun slicer and then after a few years said I'm out of here, and then you know the rest of the Nathan story. But why not go to the original in Coney Island. They're still They were there on Surf Avenue right there. They have that Brook and Mortar right there Feltman. So when we took a picture in front of the cyclone, absolutely um and get a Feltman's hot

Dog right there. Get on the cyclone and eat it as you're going down the hill. You'll love it, like when you're screaming pap exactly. Now. You got some tweets you wanted to read. I do have some tweets I wanted to read or email? What you want I want to get? I want to I want to get to what. I want to rant about one thing, but I want to talk about I want to talk about the tweets I got go for it. Here we go, hold on, let me go with my folder here. Okay, let's talk

about Mace at the underscore Mason jar. So he writes good self correction on the Latissimus Dorsey muscle, which I replied, huh, and he wrote back, sorry, I guess I'm too far back still episode fifty seven of the Brooklyn Boys. You said lats were your laterals and then corrected yourself right after looking it up. So I wrote back, dude, we have rules here on the Brooklyn Boys podcast that was five weeks ago, almost six weeks ago. I don't remember.

You know. What happens? We do a scar and I do the podcast right, we stopped rolling on the podcast, we go We're from Brooklyn, the jingle plays whatever. Then we go into the computer and we upload it, and then Scary and I have to write a description, and Scary says, what should we call this episode? And we go what do we talk about? I don't remember, because we we forget about what we talked about in the

last ten seconds. It's already in the past, right, so you expect us to remember something weeks weeks I'm like, what lateral? And and so then I tweet him I going, dude, I don't remember what we just talked about five minutes ago, sad He writes back, you know what, I vaguely remember you guys mentioning that on the podcast. Don't bring up stuff from five six weeks ago without mentioning what it is.

If you had said, hey, I'm on fifty seven blah blah blah, even that I'm I don't remember doing that, all right, So there you go, Trace Minch at Trace Underscore Minch. I was walking through walmut tonight, back by the milk and as I'm walking by, I overheard someone say you want the vanilla milk, right, and I instantly flashed back to David Brodie David Brodie's rant on vanilla milk hashtag it's just milk. I got a good laugh. That's right, it's just milk. It's just milk. It's not

vanilla milk. There's no vanilla in it. Now, don't tweet me and say I poured vanilla milk. Yes, if they put vanilla in, it's vanilla milk. But regular milk is milk, right, It's not white milk. Oh, it's not white milk, by the way, Trace The correction is it's not white milk. If they have vanilla milk at Walmart, this person was right, in which case they're not as douchy. Although the buying vanilla milk, I'm just saying it's it's white milk, that's

the problem. Um Okay, hold on, Robert Faffinger Rob double or double B r O double B Favenger, Scary Jones, you do owe David Brodie a damn steak dinner you pay for with your own money. Now, plus, here's what you're going to do. Take him as your plus one to your private invite plus another steak dinner and then have meet Paul Sandwiches for lunch. Hey, you know what he's gonna get for lunch, A fucking knuckle sandwiching any of that. Dylan Anthony at Dylan Sullivan seven McDonald's made

me pull up to the smelly trash cans. I need free dessert and there's a picture of the car sitting by the trash can. Uh. Liz and the Laura Brooklyn boys. Oh, how I've missed David Brodie Steak dinner update hashtag Brody Steak dinner update hashtag update At Scary Jones, you owe him that ship, and some regrett to meet Paul's hashtag, and some we go out to meet Paul's hold on. By the way, thank you everyone. We'll talk about this

in a minute. Thank you everyone for continuing to vote for the Brooklyn Boys podcast on the I Heart Radio Podcast Awards. Scare you, I'll give you the information in a minute. Hold on. Uh, Stephanie Minker at v I L L E two to seven. I don't get that. Stephanie, currently getting an insurance quote and saw this vehicles and to your vehicle then number that's not good. No, no, it's not a vein number. And by the way, I was at bed Bath and Beyond yesterday. The guy helping

me was really nice. Right what he says, Oh, uh, what do you have your your pin number? I said, I don't know what that is? You mean my pin code? And he looked at me like I have three heads. But I'm not let him get aware at that pin number. Uh, let's say. Oh. Kevin Wright at Hokey Fan, he writes, don't fall for a state dinner event. That's a sales pitch,

not a dinner from a friend. And thank you Kevin, right, loving you, And let's see oh, let's talk about the person who tweeted us thinking that the c m A s uh and saying the c m A Awards was wrong. It's actually saying the c m A Awards is right because it's the Country Music Association Awards. Now that's on them. They they did that deliberately. They could have called it the Country Music Club, the Country Music Group, the Association and you call but but saying the CIMA Awards is correct.

And I'm pretty sure they used this. I'm pretty sure they used to be the CMAS. I think back in the day. They're just the Country Music Awards Awards of the Awards Awards. Caitlin Caitlin Gutierrez at O h K Y two at David Brodie, This takes the cake. My local burger king has two brooms taped together with red reflective duct tape and used it to stop me from getting to the drive through window until they were ready to summon me. Hashtag fellow slice and she put a

picture up. There's flags on pole where they stick them out and stop you until they're ready for you to pull up. So they don't stuck their clock being time until their food is ready so they can make it look like you didn't wait that long. That's bullshit. That is some bullshit. Burger king wherever this is located, that's some bullshit. Uh. Sarah wrote to us, and she wanted to tell us that she went to the dentist this morning and she listened to our podcast while getting her

filling to calm her nerves. Uh. The dentist asked what I was listening to, and she said the Brooklyn Boys, and then he then did a pretty good impression of someone from Brooklyn. That's from Sarah. H Yeah, I don't know if you could really from Brooklyn. That's not how we sound, right. Well, I'd like to hear his rendition or I'm gonna save unused jokes because we had this interview coming up and I just complain about about one thing. Is it time? All right? So I had to send

out an email. Hold on wait, you pointed to your get it ready, Get it ready, It's ready, It's so ready. I hit the button. People hit the music too soon? Would you like? I sent that an email? Right, I had to alert a couple of people in one of our divisions, okay of something major. Oh my god, this pisses me off, And I sent it to a guy and a woman, right, And I had already sent other emails to other people to make sure everyone was in the loop. And I said, to the guy and the woman,

here's this message that's very important. If there's anyone I forgot in your department, right that should be on this email, email me back. Let me know who it is. I'll send them an email. That's a fair request. You forgot Jamie, you forgot Julie, you forgot Mark, Steve Bob, Let me know. I'll email him the Canista. So I send that email out, and I had a completely different email and format of an email I wanted to send the boss. Okay, I didn't want to use that verbon, you were eventually going

to send the boss an email. What the email needed to be written differently than the casual, matter of fact, abrupt email I sent to them because I just needed to get them a note right away. Okay. It wasn't exactly what I wanted the boss to know in those terms. It doesn't matter. I said, if I left anybody off, you think I should let know email me their names. I get a reply all that says, okay, no problem, Oh,

we'll take care of it. And by the way, I plus one the boss, so added the boss to the kind. They didn't like it, and they got to see the entire chain. Right. Let me tell you something, if I want to add the boss to an email, I'll add the boss to an email. I'm perfectly capable of knowing who my boss is. I could add the boss of my want. I guess what, I know the bosses email address. I very easily could say add boss, but I didn't. I also could have said, hey, you know what, why

don't you forward this to anybody? I forgot No, I didn't say that. I said, let me know who I should email if I left anybody off the list that you think I should email, I didn't say, take it upon yourself to add the boss. So you'll look like a little brown nose and bitch that you put the boss on the email, and I look like a dick for not including the boss. Let you look like shit. Oh he sends up this important emails, looks stupid and like because the boss is gonna think, Hong, how dumb

is brownie? And then he asked who to add, as if he didn't know to add me the boss. So now the boss is thinking Oh, what's Brony trying to hide? Right, bro He's not trying to hide any off to something. Are you being shifty? Yeah? Why did Brooke dido? You don't want me to know this? You know what? Don't copy the boss to emails, your fucking brown nose and fool. That was a c y a move, you know, c y a cover your ask because because excuse me, Espresso

knows there you go talking my language. Espresso knows can I say this? Did? The person that did this is probably afraid of their own job that they they shiver in their boots, they're covering their ass, they're trying to figure out they think helpful. No, no, but they also are just like, whoa, we gotta include the boss in on this, because it's it's it's a company where everybody micromanages. It's wrong, it's it's it's more than wrong, Brody. And now I felt like writing back, don't be a dick

and copy of the boss. But then they'll just right back, Oh look I'm copying. Yeah, that's fucked up, fucked up. Uh getta sucked up. Yeah, I think it's time to think, it's time. Yeah, let's let's let's let's get into this interview. This was an interview that we're gonna play for you right now that was recorded at a previous date. As we told you now we talked about giving you a bonus. This is a bonus because Scary and Eye on a day we don't normally record, recorded this seventy seven minutes.

This is a nice little long podcast. Yeah, a podcast already. Yeah, we were gonna put as a separate episode. We're like, no, let's edit it to this one, making a super long so you're not the like, wait for the app to go to the next one. So this is someone that I think is a legendary radio performer. Look, these guys were occasionally called shock shocks, but I think that minimizes what they did. They reinvented a lot of the genre

of shock radio. They were pioneers. Um, they never cared about getting in trouble if it was funny, which I think is admirable. Um. By the and by the time you hear this, by the way, the book will be out. I believe Tuesday, November. You know, well, today's Monday. But it's all good. It's he's doing book signings already. You can pick up the book, the it's all the information about the book, everything's in the in the interview, Uh, we we have a we have a discount code for

you guys, of course for his streaming service. Uh. You'll hear what Anthony's up to now. But if you're thinking, like I never liked to open to Anthony, or I don't know that show, I wasn't in my town, listen to the story, the story story of what it's like, how he got started. Uh, he was basically a day laborer and he worked his way into radio by juko, by crook, and he's a brilliant talent, whether he's your

cup of tea or not. And the stories and the way things happened on the show, and the story about the girl who caught him in bed. But there's so much good stuff and the book. The book is fantastic. So you'll hear information about the book, but enjoying this. He lived, he is living or lived rock star. Yeah to him in the interview, he was lived like a rock star life on the radio. Unlike what you, Scary and I have going for us. We have a good life. It's fun. But the stuff that they did is just

over the top. Craziness. Here you go. I'm kind of fan boying right now, Brodie. Okay, I have to say I've interviewed rock stars that I grew up like Kiss and Deaf Leopard, and we've interviewed comedians. I never get nervous. Really, yeah, I'm a little nervous today. I'm looking at me. He's just sitting there like comfortable, Like no big deal. Uh. Anthony Coumia from the Opening Anthony Show. And he has his own show now, which we'll talk about. We listen

to him. Listen to your show for over a decade afternoons mornings. I paid for satellite radio specifically to get your show during after one of your many firings, and I've spent a lot of money on you. And so as fans of your show, we would do our morning show and then ride home and listen to you and and on the Open Anthony Show you were Anthony by the way, for those and we would come in the next day going did you it was you had the show that people go did you hear what they did yesterday?

That is really nice to hear. Thank you, gentlemen. We're not We're not gentlemen. Obviously, this this interview is definitely for us, but it's also for people who want to hear about a different kind of radio than what you do on the Elvi Strand Morning Show, but also the pitfalls and pratfalls of having a job in this industry and how a non radio person can get into radio because you have your humble beginnings that you didn't start in radio. You didn't go to school for now. I

didn't go to school for that. Didn't go to school for pretty much anything. Yeah, I I didn't graduate high school. I was stuck in the trades, you know, the the dumping ground for anybody that screws up their their education. And then, uh, you know, through Opie who was out on Long Island, uh doing radio, I got into the business and I just had complete misconceptions and what it was all about. I didn't know Like I thought if you were on the radio, you had to be rich.

That was like, it's not. I learned that really quickly. Twenty three years. I'm still wearing the same for five years ago. That was my first lesson, because you did you did a conditioning right, yeah, air conditioning and heating and still Lasian duct work and think rooftops and addicts and the heat and cold. Did you do air conditioning work for the radio station? No? But they would ask me, could you you know, it's a little cold in here, or can you fix that? And I'd be like, you

call the guy. You had access into the studios, but you were just the guy. I was that guy that had to, you know, fix the stuff right now. I started writing comedy and one of the first things I sold to anyone, um was uh an o J joke to Bill Maher, Oh wow. And then I ended up in radio sending song parodies to the Elvis rand Show on a cassette and they liked it. Yeah, you have a similar story. How did you get Opie's attention? Yeah, that's uh. It was during that whole O J. Simpson thing.

Might hurt about that J? Yeah, thank you o J. O J. Gave me a career. It's great, And it was. It was a song parody about o J. And Uh, my brother took it to Opie's show out on Long Island and UH just banged on the back door and an in turn came to the door and said, all right, I'll take it to Opie And my brother was pretty you know, hey, where's Opie, I'll give it to him. I want to talk to him, and uh, really pushy, and he gave him the tape. No, not me, I

I'm not. My brother was the guy that kind of got the whole thing rolling, and uh, he gave him the tape. Opie played at the people loved it, and Opie invited us to come on the show and perform it live, which we did. And I just thought it was time to start spinning plates and juggling and singing and just do everything I could to make an impression

to get back on that show. And I did, and he he had me back on and it was taping every appearance that I made and sent it out to other stations and we got the gig at a f in Boston, and that was the end of my tin knocking days. As they say, I threw my toolbox out the window on the driving up. So you left, you left Long Island with Opie and then you both went

to Boston for this gig. Yeah, yeah, that's great. I feel like we should just say it ended in the firing, because you guys have become known for your had your public stunts over the years. Yeah. Yeah, that was our first firing. We uh so this was a a f Yeah, April fools. We said that the mayor was dead. Mayor Menino was dead because and it was because some of these you know how it is April Fools with DJs is so hackey. And and this is before social media,

where you could have corrected yourself. By the way, you're the best on social media, as everyone knows, correcting yourself. But you didn't. You didn't have an outlet at the time. This is ninety nineties. Yeah around there, you ky of time. So you go on the air. You hired a newscaster, right because is by the way, I want to say, while you're here, because I have some of thiss information.

You're here in addition to you love us. Of course, of course you're promoting permanently suspended, uh, which is your rise and fall and rise again of radio's most notorious shock chock with the forward by Jimmy Norton. He has a book out and by the way, and it's it looks like a nice easy read. It is an easy I didn't want to no, I didn't want to go crazy with a big thing. You see a big, thick book. It's just intimidating. This is fun. So this, this story is in the book which I by the way, I

read that that chapter yesterday. I got some details I wasn't aware of, even though I've heard the story many times. Yeah, so you, you and Opie decide, let's do a practical joke, say the Mayor's dead. Yeah, And uh, I knew it was going to be trouble. And I was the guy, like I had just started doing this. We were doing it for about three years, I guess in Boston, and uh, I was petrified of being back in that attic. I did not want to go back, and we did it.

The news picked up on it Menino's family, and we subsequently got fired. Uh And I thought that was it. I was like, wow, that was fun. That was a fun three years. I'll be back in an attic cutting a duct work and going, hey, do you ever hear you haven't hear? That was of that. Listen to this cassette. Yeah, yeah, check it out. It was great. Uh So I thought we were screwed. But it was the first of many

firings and surprising, not the worst and not right. There's a there's a story in the book that I don't know how this happens. You were off air in Buffalo doing uh public appearance and a for O and all, you decided to put girls in bikinis who were strippers. Yeah, although based on how this story ends, they weren't porn stars.

They were just strippers. They were just strippers. We should have known though it was gonna You decided to have them play volleyball, and then, of course, as guys do with a little power and microphones, we know, you got them to take their tops off. Yeah, and then tell us how it spiled out of control after that. Yeah. It was the beach of public beach. It was a public beach. It wasn't closed. We didn't have it closed for our event. We were at a bar that was

on the beach. And Uh, it was great. Everybody's drinking, having a good time, big crowd there Buffalo. They're insane up there, So it was a great time. And we just thought these strippers would play volleyball in their bikinis. Uh. But after a while and they've been drinking, they started getting together and uh touching each other and making out, and slowly there their bikinis just started falling off. Involved. Yes, alcohol was involved. Now you have to buy the book

because I want to get away too much. But then it got worse. Yeah, there there was food products involved. Yeah, yeah, somebody. I don't know where it came from, but out of nowhere, Uh, someone showed up with zucchini's and cucumbers and egg plants cat right because of the nutritional value, of course. And then and then at some point those products disappeared. Yeah, yeah, it's no longer see that like a magic trick, just like a magic trick. And so there were families on

the beach. What I don't get, and it's in the book, is that somehow the FCC got involved and you weren't on the air. How does that happen? I don't know. I think it is the only case of the FCC having a field a complaint, uh, from something that was never on the public airwaves. It was a show that we were just doing live. We had a p A. But they don't regulate what goes out over a public address system over a beach is controversial, Yeah, controversial thing

for them to get involved in. Yeah, setting their boundaries almost. I guess somebody thought that that complained to But it's like when people go to the drive through and they don't have chicken fingers, and they ca, yeah, what are you gonna do the middle of the afternoon, by the way, right, oh yeah, middle of the afternoon, uh in in Buffalo Lakeside. So it was Mike and Margor with the kids by the lake, just a nice day out of tassels, and

the celcumber disappeared. Yeah, yeah, that's awesome. It was. Yeah, I saw it, Like the faces on the moms as they're dragging the kids away, it was they were horrified. Anthony goes into greater detail in the book. This This book, I want to just say is first of all, it's a great reading, very easy, thank you, crazy read It's it's it's sort of not typical, Like, don't read this book and think this is what radio is. Um. This is a book that could have been written by a

rock star. You guys lived a life of rock stars. You drank, you had strippers in the studio, you had pinball machines, you had strippers on pinball machines. I don't want to get too graphic. I don't. I'm sure it's in the book, but you guys played cherry darts. Yeah, Cherry darts, cherry darts, gallant drum challenge. Should we talk about that? Okay, we don't. We don't have any regulation here,

but which is nice? Which is so the thing that gets me And it's just like a rock star women and men because there were plenty of men who do crazy things on your show. We're willing to do anything for you guys because you were on the radio and you're you're larger than life for a long period of time. It's the strangest phenomenon, but you're absolutely right. We would come up with an idea and the first thing I would think is, no one's coming in for this. This

is preposterous. They wouldn't do this, they wouldn't put themselves through this, and we'd have too many people. We'd have to tell people to leave because it was and the gallon drum challenge was a prime example of that. We're like, we are never gonna get girls that will come up into the studio, stripped down to bron panties, get into a fifty five gallon industrial drup like they put chemicals in the dumped in the water. Yeah, this is like you see this all the all the time on forensic files.

When they shove a body in it and leave it in a crawl space for years. Not just spoil the fun. But let me just bring it back to the present for a second. How would that show and those shenanigans or whatever you did it go over in today's culture and today's climate with the way people we just came we were talking about these snow flakes that were arguing over over food. This phone prank that we played earlier this morning. It was like it was harmless fun. We're

addicted to outrage. Okay, so don't dumped. A great story. Man got these girls to go in the drum, Get him in the drum. Let's go back there in the drum. The tops were put on and feel like they were literally trapped in these drums. And there was there's more. Yes, wait, there's more. There's a hole in the top where you usually jumped the chemicals out of. Okay, wait before you go on with what you did. What was the payoff? What were they doing this for? I believe it was

tickets to various shows. Said yeah, yeah, yeah, it was. It was tickets. Right by the way we take call one hundred on our show. It's a little easier, Yeah, yeah, we will you call. I want you to know this could have been Elvis could have said you could go in the giant drum in the drum. So they go in the drum. There's a hole in the top. Yeah. Yeah, and we'd have maybe eight nine of these drums set up with girls in there. Get those drums for a

radio bit. Boy, I don't know. We had a great staff was able to actually come up with gallon drums and get them upstairs and uh, and then we would um solicit the audience, our audience of dedicated oh and a fans to bring stuff up that was deemed disgusting, just the worst things. Fish guts, uh, rotten food, uh, liquids that were uh, living and dead things, Snakes, eels, uh,

hissing cockroaches was one of them. That was just terrible. Uh. And all these things would be poured in to these girls drums and they would be in their pitch black. They can't really see all. They had to protect themselves with goggles. We gaveh goggles. Yeah, you know, we should have let him go blind. Uh. Actually we had one girl a cricket crawled into her ear and we had to pop the top off the drum and send her to the hot the first cricket wireless. Yea, yeah, the

cricket right in her. They had to pull it out with some four steps and um, well she throw jokes were palming. Yeah, yeah, it's like I'm just hearing crickets all is this? It was? And and the the screaming that would come out of these barrels, I only I could only equate with like the basement of a serial killer, where where you just hear this echoe girls scream from a drumless But how many times when you were doing

that did you feel bad? Uh? Not until after we left the show, because we did a lot of things that normal people should feel very badly because I'm reading the book and I don't see at the end of any story hash and there the walk to the car, like the show is over. We're like, all right, that was cold, great show, And then walking to the car, you're kind of gone. I kind of feel bad. I think I think we should wait three months before we do it again. But you're going to do it again.

You didn't do it. We had to top the thing we just did, and there and lied the problem. It was so difficult to come up with the next thing that would top the last thing. But the listeners expected it. We were obsessed with it because we knew it brought more listeners in and more ratings, and then we'd entertain them with with radio. But they always wanted that next stunt and it had to be crazier than the last one. And management liked it to a point because they're able

to sell their getting ratings. But it will always be the downfall. How about that time at St. Patrick's Cathedral. That's that's sort of the end of this. But that to me, but that I heard that headlines, I mean, yeah, okay, So Anthony will explain and and it's it's more detailed than the book, of course, but that's one of the those things that as a radio person you're listening going, oh, how are they getting out of this? They're going to fire them on the air, like you knew, you knew.

I was cringing for you when I heard him that he can talk about that a little bit. Well, yeah, okay, So again I just want to point out permanently suspended. This is another reason why the book is titled this. Yeah, yeah, we were constantly being fired, suspended, permanently suspended, which is an expulsion. At the time of this bit that you're going to describe, you were doing afternoons at w n W one or two seven, which was a legendary rock show,

rock station that decided to go talk. They flipped over and got rid of a lot of the old jocks, and and that you guys would number one in the afternoon. Just actually aside and I go ken, He looked at me, didn't say a word, and walked away. You were coming on our show, right, because he's a friend of mine. No, No, I didn't. I didn't imagine anything. But I was like, oh man, that's and then I'm trying to go through my head like what did we say? What did we do?

And there's a lot of you were sort of like the young rebels that came in and we're like, we douched out the place in your words, right, And so you guys were number one in afternoons. We would come home every day and listen to you on on terrestrial radio. And you did all these crazy fifty five gallons drum challenge. You did the homeless shop, very famous for the for the homeless shopping spree is one of those things that's

you guys should google it because it's so funny. It's a brilliant bit, but people will get upset that they'll get upset, so just google it and enjoy if you want to enjoy. And women would call him we gotta talk about with Mount Wednesday because people would know that we'll get to that black and yellow stickers. I still see them on the back of a dirty truck from So here's a little little behind the scenes. We were looking for a promotion at one point, and so I said,

why don't we do mom stickers? We take the wild stickers, turn them upside down and do like we love your mom, and they're like your mom, like something like, um, I forgot what we said m om stands for. But it was like, um, whatever we took this we took. I was like, we're not doing that now. We killed that.

But this bit is why I had to now pay at that point, like eighteen dollars a month of satellite radio because this bit got you fired and you didn't come back on any kind of formatted radio for two years. Were Yeah, for two years we were. They held us to our contract. They didn't want us working for another company, so they paid us and we sat out for two years making an insane amount of money. They put you on a shelf. He got paid to stay home. Yeah, we were like, oh, can we get a job and

they're like, no, well we'll still pay you. You're just not doing a show anymore. And this it was thousand two. You wanted to be back on the air. Yeah, around two thousand Whose idea was this? And and and you can describe the bit oh again like the just like the Mayor's dead bit, Opie came up with. You told them, don't do this, it's against me. But this wasn't the first time you had done this bit. No, we had done it before. It was it was just and kind

of radio, you know, a bit of shock jockery. And then you got fired for listen. It was worth it because it's legendary radio. It's it's history of American radio. This is one of the all times everyone. You can google it. It's out there, the articles, the papers of the day. And I'm gonna delay the story for another minute. Had you not had if we didn't have terrestrial radio, this is two thou two when you got fired. There's

no podcasts really to speak of. There's no SoundCloud. This YouTube wasn't really it wasn't what YouTube was two six Yeah, but it wasn't it was. If it was, it was no real way for you to do your show. And thank god said like radio came along, it was the perfect medium for you. Guys. We were screwed, but you yeah, you could have been like never worked in radio again. Yes, we were. We were screwed. And I remember when serious actually was x MT first came around and our agents

started telling us about it. Me and Opie, Uh, we were hanging out and we're kind of looking at the street and the car's gone by, and we're like, all right, because they had those big shark fin antennas at the time, and we're like, all right, let's kind of look and see how many people actually have Mine was a magnet that it's just big antenna's uh. And we just noticed like barely any cars had these things, and we're like, wow,

we really screwed screwed up, man. We we really were like this is nothing like we were talking to millions of people and now you know, if there's twenty thousand people even subscribing to all of satellite radio, we only get a percentage of that we're talking to nobody, So it was it was depressing at first, but you know we we uh were right there at the beginning of satellite radio and until it built up for ten years, we were there, uh, and it built up into quite

a thing. So you're also at the beginning and we'll get to this in a minute. We're also at the beginning of pictures and streaming the show as it was going on. We'll get to that. So tell us the sex with Sam story. How did the bid originally start? Because it did well for a couple of years. You did it before you didn't get fired. Yeah, what was the premise of the bit? Jim Cooke from Sam Adams used to come up all the time, the nicest, nerdiest guy.

Just I don't know how he associated with this bit. Yeah, I know, he's like, Hi, I'm Jim Cook. He was really like, hey, why did you come here and drink some beer? And naked girls will be in the studio and he'd have this backpack with beer in it. He always had some kind of a gimmick going my kind of client and we loved him. He was great, Uh, And somehow we tied in his beer company with this

thing that the stunt that we would do. What it was was we had couples, uh, go around to various famous locations around New York, landmarks of New York City, the Empire State Building, F. A. O. Schwartz, Uh, you know, the hard rock things like that, and they would have to have sex at these locations, some form of sex. Yeah, sexual act, sexual act, well, intercourse I believe was what now weren't there certain there was points for the location, but also points for the act. Yes, yes, there was

a two point conversion we called it. Yeah, and that was an extra two points if they did it. Yeah yeah, yeah the other way the other way, a three point conversion. Yeah, it was. Was it popular? Did they have you guys had a lot of volunteers? Oh yeah yeah yeah. They've gotten a drum and had rat faces poured on them. They're gonna get have sex. Come on, I'm just saying I didn't know. I mean, did you have to like tickets? Well,

they got a trip to Boston. Yeah, it was a trip to the Boston Beer Company facility and uh tickets to maybe a socks game up there or something. So you don't have to co worce anybody. It was all. They loved that they would come in. We'd audition couples, so they would come into the studio and of course

again Rockstar new things. It was amazing. So we had spotters that went out also with these people, whether they were some of them spotted here and there as well, I think type of spot uh, and they were people from the show and also stand up comics would go out and make sure that they were actually doing these these deeds because they play by play and we didn't want any dishonesty a reputable contest we're doing here. So

Opie decided to put Church on the list. He just put Church now right away, the red flag went up. I'm like, I don't know about this. If he's like, no one's gonna do it, we'll just say it's on the list. But yeah, h my moral confidence. I'm not looking to plug anybody else. But ope, he doesn't have a book right because because you're just blaming everything on him, today's just pile it off. First book is the truth, That's what it is. Sorry, I got mine out first.

If he had a good story, he would have written first. I guess he's too much guilt and he came up with these bits that he's got all you guys fired. That's that's it's so he puts church on this list, churches on the list. So that way when we're on the errand we read down the location, not churches, fried chickens. Well, although it could have been and that would have been funny, like church, yeah, good way out. So we're reading it off and it just sounds outrageous, wild church, that's nuts.

Well we didn't know that. Uh. One couple and the spot ter, Paul Mecuri, Oh comic would actually go not only to a church, but the biggest, arguably the biggest Catholic church in the country, cathedral. Uh. And they did. And and right when we picked up the phone, he goes, uh, well, we're here at St. Pat's and they're doing the conversion, the conversion, and and we're like, and I looked at that dump button right in front of me. We had the delay. We had a long delay on the show.

Oh yeah, I'll contil van Halen started playing right, and if the delay ran out, there was a guy in a locked room that hit a button and Van hale would start playing and we would be right. Because the real quick the way delay works I think we've explained it on the big shows. It's like your DVR when we pause it behind like thirty seconds and the commercial comes up. So imagine there's eight commercials and you skip through seven and the eighth commercial comes up and you

have no skip left. You play Van Halen's you don't listen to the commercial, right right? That meant that because if we got it, Oh yeah, yes, so it got it got really nerve wracking. I'm looking at the button, going probably dump this. Oh you were in charge of the dump button. We all had buttons in front of had one. I had one. I thought there was just one. Oh no, there was a guy in the locked room.

He had dump buttons and a big that's right. They had to have a d They had the guy in the back, I think because I remember you guys saying that Gus like we got the thing was and it was Al Duke's for a while. Yes I know Al now, which is funny. So the thing is they would get mad if they were dumped for things that they felt shouldn't have been dumb. Yeah, I'm gonna be able to dump in case the guy was too afraid to dump, like if he felt like they're gonna get mad at

me for this dump or if it was questionable. So you had the button, we had the button. You can't throw anyone under the bus. We would freak out guests sometimes by cursing on the air. I turn around, say why don't you go yourself and actually say it, and then I'd hit the dumb button and what do you what did you just do? Like that's funny, we have a dump? Uh, but I'm staring at that button going and we neither of us, me or Opie. We didn't dump.

The guy in the back didn't dump because it wasn't against FCC rules because it's going out over the air, but none of their regulations were broken, and uh, it just snowball. The police showed up, they arrested the couple and Paul mecurie O and uh then once the media got ahold of it, there's no coming back. There's no defending that that you you had a couple do that in uh st Pat's cat and the part that look, we don't know for a fact. I mean you might know for a fact, but as a listener, you don't

know for a fact. Actually didn't know of course, like Paul mercurial could have said, Dad, they did it great radio. You guys are not guilty of anything. You don't know. I gotta be honest. At the time it was happening, I thought, ah, fear of the mind. I was hoping for you. So I said, there's no as much as you guys would never come out go we faked it because you didn't. But Paul may have. I said, please let them come out and make it. Say look, Paul.

Paul comes out and says, we're going for the joke. Wasn't real. They weren't even in the church. They weren't doing it in the church. We just I thought it'd be funny, and you go, Paul. So man at Paul, why would you fake it? But he's great. They probably would have been away to Yeah, but it was the fact that you never said that, which was admirable, foolish but amiable. Paul distanced himself from He was like, I want no part of this. He was He seemed like

he was like I'm just doing my job. Like he was like, I didn't do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was. It actually took place, I think in one of those vestibules before you even go into the church, one of the archways that surround the church. It happened in the alternate opening near the regular door, right near the door, and a security guard came over and and the anus

of entries to the right exactly. Uh. And and Paul knowing what we want or thinking what we want the conversion that when security came over, instead of just saying all right, it's cool, no, nothing happened, will will leave, thank you, goodnight, he wanted a conflict because he knew we loved that. Uh. And that made it worse because then the police showed up. And once the cops showed up, that was it. The media got ahold of it. It turned into you know, people actually to this day go,

didn't you and Opie have sex in the church? Yeah? Fake news. So we didn't know, you know, we didn't know it was going to get that far. But when you're when you're in radio and you're on the brink of being fired and you're watching the news, there's a tipping point where you go, oh, yeah, we're done. We're done. And yet, from what I read, not my personal opinion, it seems like a lot of people have had sex and churches and not lost their jobs. For it. Yeah. Yeah,

they could have just transferred us to another parish. I saw in the movie. Yeah, plenty of movies about that. We we we. Uh So is there anything that you didn't put in the book that you thought was either too uncomfortable for someone that you knew and worked with it. You don't tell us what it is, but this thing has it seems like it's everything something you were like. No, as a matter of fact, you know what it is. When when you're doing radio for twenty years, Uh, you

put everything out there. There are those slow news days when you're just sitting there and lately yeah, no, not lately, and when you got the likes of Jim Norton sitting neck to you, you're gonna open up and just talk about your life. And over the course of the years, everything's been put out there. It's embarrassing at times, but it's also freeing. You know, there's nothing anybody can approach you with and then go ah, ha, I got this on you. It's like we did that back in two

thousand and seven. We talked about that and you guys were preaching authenticity and transparency long before it was yeah in radio, and now that's what we we talk about I mean we our show and with the Elvis Durran show is actually extremely transparent and we just like to put we put all our emotions out there. It makes the best people love it. But now, speaking about being transparent, you weren't transparent about one thing. That's what I was like.

I've already proven I'm a fan. I can I can you know, I know your your your manages, your your agents name um the late Bobby Bobby super super agent, super Agent. He's no longer with us, he has passed. Now, it's no secret that you and Opie did not end well. Yeah, right, multiple times it was the fights on air, there was it's it's got an ugly since it's ugly on his show that you got ugly on what you're doing. By the way, let's talk about you doing now real quick

and we'll get back to it. Uh. You're in the compound, right, compound media, compound media, dot com um and your compound media. Uh what's the what's the Twitter? I think that's a mistake. A compound America. Yeah. By the way, the voice hearing the background is my good friend Eric, who was noted on the Open Anthony Show. He was on our podcast last week, episode sixty I think right sixty or sixty one. We did sixty one. We did the resumes. Eric has

been a great edition. He's only been with us a short time now, but it's great to have so at Compound America. So you're doing a show now you had when you first kicked it off, you Edwards Opie Opie ad words for you. He got emotional, You got emotional. Got well he did get that one day with he Yeah he did. You stayed angry? Yeah, no, no crying at the Compound. I'm the guy in the relationship, all right. Now. I thought I was under the impression as a listener

that things sort of went astray. Let's say two thousand eight, two thousand seven, three quarters into your run. I could I knew Eric, I heard some things. I spoke to Jimmy, I heard some things. So I knew some things. This is not when the problem started. You were basically married to this guy on the radio. Your career was because of him. You, you, your success was your team, the ideas you're planning. When did the problem? When did you guys start growing apart? What year? Roughly it was a

lot earlier on than people think. Really. Yeah. Yeah, when we first got together and went up to Boston, we were inseparable. Uh. It was myself and Opie my wife at the time. And that is that five chapters in the book. I just read the part about your wedding night. God, it was yet you're able to smile and left today horrifying. Yeah, but the separation went smooth from yeah, that went well, Oh my god. Anyway, and and Opie and his girlfriend at the time, and with the four of us were

the four Musketeers. We had each other. We were up in Boston starting this amazing new career hadn't been yet, hadn't been fired. I was happy to be there guy, and it was great. And and me and Opie would get together in the mornings, have breakfast and lunch and discuss what we're gonna do on the show, and very

excited about it. Once my marriage went uh put uh and and I started going out with another girl, and his girlfriend couldn't stand that fact that I was out of my marriage, and now this four Musketeers thing kind of broke up. This happened when we got back to New York because she was fed. Because Ope's girl was close with your wife. Yes, so that started the tension thing. You you left out a real sell her for this book.

Oh yeah, there's the overlap. There's a little bit of you didn't just meet a girl, No, no, that it was the girl that me and my wife had a threesome with. Yeah, for an extended period of time, not just one that's in the books. Yeah. The reason why it's at least suspended primarily available at all places you find your books. Yeah, you want to sell it on your website dot com. By the way, I want to say, we'll say this couple of times, but if you use the promo code Compound twenty, do you get off a

new subscription to your shows? Yeah, a lot of different shows on Compound promised if we had you on, we get a free subscription. So that's right. Do it off on your Here's threesome stories. So that no, no ahead, because I didn't read the full book yet, I'm not. Yeah, yeah, it was well, my wife seemed to have this, uh kind of side of her that liked girls. There was a part of that that, like I said, and uh

rock star book. The odd thing is I was able to pull this off when I was still in instruction back in New York. Yeah, it wasn't because you were famous. You didn't pull the DJ threesome. No. I I was doing a gig with my band years ago and this girl that was friendly with us, uh, was there, and my wife comes up to be drunk off r S and goes, hey, Cindy wants to come back and watch us have sex. I'm like, check, that's great, And I'm driving home with the girls were sitting. I had a

work fan, that's all. I had my air conditioning Apollo air conditioning work fan. They're sitting in the passage seat. I'm in the driver's seat, wasted by the way, just thinking, please, if there's a god, don't pull me over, don't get Could you imagine having your first threesome potential right there and getting arrested and that would be but thank god that didn't happen. So became a regular thing. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,

it was not the reason why you're married. You got destroyed. No, not that I'm it was it was every so often with this uh Cindy girl. And then when we moved up to Boston for the gig, it was we didn't really think about it. Uh. And then when we came back to New York three years later, she kind of was like, Hey, is there any way maybe you could find one of these fans, because that's when we really started getting all the girls coming into the studio and everything.

And She's like, you think there's be anyway And I'm like, WHOA, I don't know trying. Meanwhile, I'm like, I'm going through Rollo decks in my head of potential. This is around there. So you guys, obviously the friendship took a turn. Whether either a guy gets married or whatever. In this situation, you got single and he wanted the thing that used to have. But when did it get uncomfortable in the studio? When was it for like I hate coming to work,

this is not working. Yeah, I think he started getting some resentment to me and Jimmy. Also we really started hitting it off, and I think uh Opie felt his role was kind of being pushed into the logistics placed you added Jim Norton, a comic on the show. Yeah, Yeah, was the reason for that to add more conversation and to have an emissary in the clubs. What was the reason for adding Jimmy at that point? Because Opie brought

him into the show. Opie says, now, uh that he did that to save the show, like because me and him weren't really getting along. And I don't really remember us not getting along to that extent where we needed somebody else to you know, as a buffer kind of a thing. But that's how Opie says. I just think Jimmy was a great third mike. Uh, just hilarious, quick, quick witted, he could throw something. He brought something to our show that we never had, which was this real

natural ability to goof on each other self deprecation. We never did any kind of self deprecation if one yeah, yeah, but if we would never, we would never acknowledge. And Jimmy brought this whole thing to the show where if something bombed, he would be like, what was that? And we were horrified and first like, you know, you don't bring this up right, And then after a while you realized, no, that's the natural, funny thing to do, and people love it.

And we do that we on our show. If somebody messes up, we're on top of them, even if it's all yeah. And I think that's a style of radio that didn't exist thirty years ago. It didn't it was nothing wrong. And I don't want to discount Howard. We're gonna get to talk about how in a minute, because he plays a role in this whole story here and there. Um. So what I'm saying is, as a listen, I couldn't

tell so you came in every day. Now, there's one story where when it got really bad, your buddies with Jimmy. Jimmy has now migrated to be your best buddy, and you're you're sort of like a team, and Opie's on an island by himself, and you sent a text message. Right you're in the studio and you wanted to send a text message to Jimmy about how uncomfortable it was working with Opie that morning. Yeah, what did the text message say? Do you remember? It said? Uh, the little

c words. Uh won't even look at me because there was something I hope he would do. He if he was mad at you, he wouldn't make you like you weren't in the room. He wouldn't make eye contact, wouldn't even look at you. If he if his head, his line of sight had to pass by me to get to another person's line of sight. He literally is as you'd see him go over my head, back down, and anything he could do to avoid icon. And again, these are two people who are listening. You made a lot

of money. Oh yeah, very well, you guys made a lot of money. A lot of it was because of my XM subscription. I know, thank you. And yet your your lives and success are based on each other. You're getting along is how you guys have a job. Imagine you're listening to this podcast. Whatever you do for a living, and the person who you rely on, whether you're a doctor and you have a nurse or your two lawyers like Selina and Barnes, the most famous lawyers in America.

They hate each other. They hate each other. You don't root Celeno and Barnes, you know. And so you guys are trying to be funny every day you're not working on a on a rock pile. Were like, fuck him, I'll break rocks. You have to be funny. You have to play off each other. So you send a text message it says the C word isn't whatever and what went wrong? Well, I I sent it to Jimmy and then I looked at it and right after I had sent, I look at the top of the text, and it

says Opie, I sent it to Opie. So I send the same little studio. Oh yeah. I froze right then I'm looking and and all you think is maybe something will go wrong, maybe it won't send, maybe something until right right. That would have been beautiful. But but I'm sitting there and I hear on the console and it's his phone, and I'm like, oh, there's there's my text. I see him pick up the phone and look at it, and then his eyes just go up and look right at me. He goes, what is this? And I had nothing.

I couldn't have said something. You know, how how do you not look at him? How do you not look at him and go Jimmy's an ass am? I right, yeah, yeah, yeah, right, look at You're right about him? He uh. It was like I had nothing, So I finally I just went, well, yeah, you're being a dick. Why don't you look at me? I figured I would just let him let that. Fifteen years later, Larry David did an episode about that, that

you send the unintentional text message deliberately. Yes, you're like, oh, I want to buy my wife a gift, she's so hot today, but you send it to horror, like the intention, but you didn't know about that then. I didn't know, and it was the opposite. I was just trying to get a reaction, buddy, and you helping you at that point that you had been talking about him behind his

back to Jimmy to Jimmy. Yeah, yeah, you know, so I tried to cover Jimmy by saying I was sending it to my girlfriend and and I don't think he bought it. Well, the show ended, so I'm guessing you didn't buy it. Yeah, yeah, he didn't buy it. Was true that at the end it got so bad that you guys would perform well on the air, and then once you guys hit commercial, you guys would just bolt out of the studios and oh yeah yeah. There was a lot of bathroom breaks and uh and just not

paying attention to each other, not looking at each other big. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's a small but I would go into the live read, he would get up and walk away and things like that. So yeah, and then the second the show ended, we would just bolt and go to our respective vehicles and that was it. It was. It was tough spoken him recently. Uh No, we kind of did a couple of he did a phoner on my show, and you know, obviously I'm on his show. We were

cordial and then that just kind of broke apart. It was sort of a a week peace treaty that didn't Quittin and Lewis, Mike and the Mad Dog, all the bands and things that you see, guns and roses and eagles like it happens. You know, it's twenty years, you know, twenty years with a beautiful wife that doesn't work a lot of times. Never mind, what from that? I know nine I was married nine years. Let's let's talk about maybe my favorite story. And we know one of the

people involved other than you you were dating. It's up to you whether you want to mention the name Jill Nicolin. She's on the books book. So Jill Nicoline is a wonderful, beautiful local New York newscaster. Yeah, she was the traffic girl. Right, she does reports local, she goes out and she doesn't right. Anyway, we've met her. Now, I'll tell you after you hit the story. I don't want to. We had her up

here on a five years ago for something. A lot of times the local stations will send people up to cover a major story. And so she was up here that day and very nice, oh very and all I could think about it was this story. I'm looking at her, I'm thinking about laptops, I'm thinking about closets, and I'm family party, and I'm like both and I'm trying, and then i'm you know, and then there's all those new pictures are online. I couldn't something in that. And then

I'm look at the new pictures. I'm going Anthony hit that, And that's what I could think about. He told me that, He's like I told him that. I said, listen, we have somebody coming up today. You've never met her. You probably seen on television. But if you don't remember the story, remember Anthony had that story. That's hard. That was the summer romance. How did you know the part? Okay, the part in the book I didn't understand, and I want to make sure you tell it. It's part of the story.

As this what happened happened. There was a party in the house, right, Okay, a party going on in your house. Your girlfriend Jill is at the party. Yeah. Yeah, it was a party, like it was mine and Jill's party. It was under the families had Labor Day. Yeah, both families were their friends. A huge party involved. Oh yeah, at that point, I'm sure he did the jacouz. He's got the jacouz. He's going. I mean barbecues and mixed drinks.

It was great. And uh boy, there was just this girl from Canada that I had hooked up with a few times, and she was, oh yeah, invited her to this party because you thought something good would come from this. I was. I was always terrible at this. I was always very bad at the cheating thing. I got no game as far as cheating goes. I am all out there. Some Anthony's bat. Some people are bad at cheating in terms of they go out and then they lie about

where they went, or they have lipstick on their collar. Yeah. You take it to a new level. You invite both women to your house. The flies over so stupid, and then you bring this Canadian girl up to your room. Yeah yeah, I brought her up to my room. Well, Jill and her family are downstairs. Yeah. First we were fiddling around in the jacuzzi. You know, you can't see through those bubbles, so we're kind of sitting in the jacuzzi and uh, screwing around a little bit under the bubbles.

Che Right assesses you to leave the party. Did you think for a second that that Jill wasn't going to come looking for you. Well, it was sort of the tail end of the party. It was like, I think the sun was coming up, a lot of people passed out, a lot of people had left. Yeah, so I figured, you know, at this point, not passed out. Uh no, she yeah, she had. Uh, I guess she was entertaining people and she had went out for something. Yeah. I thought she was gone, Okay, I'm gonna go out for

beer or whatever she like. Yeah, yeah, I thought she was gone. And Canada, So I had Canada come up. Yeah, doing my duty is a good American. Uh and and uh then I hear I hear Jill pulling up in the driveway, and I'm like, oh here. I Am like this is red handed stuff right here. So I sent the Canadian to the walking closet. Had two big walking closets in the house. Yeah, and you yeah, I was

in bed and in the closet. Yeah. She gets in the closet and Jill comes into the bedroom and uh, oh boy, I she she uh starts getting a little amorous with me. And that's a big word. It means yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So if you know that way and keep quiet in the closet. She was keeping quiet in the closet. Yeah, And but Jill, Jill had started doing stuff that exposed her to certain fragrances of yes. So she goes, what's that and like, I don't again, I had nothing like

the Opie text. Okay, it must have been a wet dream. I was thinking of you. That would have been that would have been good. But yeah, so she looks around the room and walks towards the closet. She opens up one of the closets. It's not the one the Canadians in number one door number one. Now this is almost like when the when Opie's phone was going off. To walk over to the phone the closet, don't open the closet and uh so she walks back and she's really

giving me like the what have you? She's mad, she knows something's up, um, but she didn't go back to the other closet right away. Uh. She's yelling, man, I'm like great, yelling at me. Keep it coming, you know, get mad and leave. Uh. But then she she looks at the other closet and goes over there and opens it and there's the pride of Canada sitting right in the middle of the floor and just and just waves

to her, how are you doing? She was taff dress because she was putting her clothes on, like how are you doing? And Jill then uh ran out of the place and took off. Yeah it was terrible, but this this the more because she gets a little revenge on revenge, some property damage and on the Canadian and oh, it just was out of hand. I don't know. I've done horrible things like that in relationships and uh, what are

you gonna do? I've I've grown over the years. Right, Luckily nothing bad is happened to so you got right, right, It's not like there's karma. Howard Stern, Robin Howard Stern probably the reason a lot of us in radio, that's right, the king of all media, Robin no I I of

course he's the legend, the legend, the biggest thing. And he'll be to tell you he invented everything, invented, you know, in retrospect, most of it as far is the point where he was at the beginning of his career, and as high the height of his Private Parts movie and his book. He was the inventor of much many things, and he was he was everything. Nothing as far as the modern day shock jock goes like that was him.

Everybody when it's like, oh you're when people said, oh, you're a Howard wanna be and it's like, yeah, I want to be doing a show like that and and having that kind of success. Weird. Nobody looks at baseball players and says, oh, you're a Mickey Man, will wanna be? Want to be? Ye? Yeah? The guy, first of all, makes a hundred million dollars a year. He's at the time. He didn't have a hot wife, He had a nice wife. Couldn't have been more successful, reinvented the industry of radio.

Who wouldn't want to emulate that? I saw Private Parts and I said I want to do that for a living? Yeah, yeah, that exactly. You know who wouldn't. And there's a way to take what he did, be inspired by it and do your own thing. Uh. And that's different than taking his bits verbatim and running We've done prank phone calls, of course, and people will go, you're ripping off Howard. He did that bit um. We did a bit which

one was it? No? Yeah, one of his guys our prank phone call becaust and Elvis has a saying, if you steal something from us, it's been stolen twice. Right. We invent a lot of things. We've created a lot of things, but sometimes you borrow things and you make them better. We didn't invent the prank phone call, but being in New York and and and being able to call New Yorkers and we actually we we we feel like we have our own style of of busting on people and in a day talking to yourself, we get

that we're nothing like that's what it was. There was nothing talking to yourself bit where we call we we usually somebody that's you know, we get them to say a bunch of phrases things that you record them, put them on a button bar, and then then have them talk to themselves. We actually did that first, like two thousand five to four. That was the one thing we did first. No one has done that before that to

our knowledge, and so we would call it. We call a couple of places where we got some people that weren't the smartest so well you'd ask them questions like who's this. They'd say their name and they'll say, uh, you know, are you home right now? Yes? We get them to say certain phrases uh, and then we would play the phrases back, and because it was over the radio phone, they didn't recognize the voice, so people would gell at themselves and like, don't call here again, Like

is this Joanne? I'm Joanne? I'm joe Anne anyway, and so they stole from us. So Howard is the king of all media. Right, you guys come to New York. You're doing afternoons at a radio station owned by the same company company. Howard's on k Rock, which was FM CBS in the mornings, and you were on any w CBS afternoons. Not really competition, but turned into a Leno Lederman thing where you couldn't book guests that he had on and yeah, he was not gracious. No, no, I

think uh. And and without without patting ourselves on the back, we handled him differently than any other show handled Howard Stern. And because I was such a big fan, uh, I had an idea of how you could battle Howard without really battling him, and it was by having fun making fun of him. Uh. In a way like a fan would so that all of his fans wouldn't. If you come into New York and go, oh, how it Sterns sucks. We rule, all of his fans are gonna go, no,

Howard rules, you suck. So it never works that way. You can't do it. But if you are such a big fan and you start goofing on the fact that he goes to the Hampton's on the weekends and you know he's Hollywood Howie and doing an impression of him, and and it's really deep, like you're doing an impression and doing material that only a fan would know, then the fans are gonna go, holy, that's kind of funny,

like he does do that, Oh my god. And it was a great way to just chisel the way make him seem a little hypocritical, and and and the fans loved it, like we get you, like we get you, Howard, which we get it. Were just just bust them balls over me kind of a thing. By the way. You do great impressions, and a lot of them you do. Uh Chris Man dog Russo, who was a big national sports Oh yeah, yeah, you do. Don iMOS, don i'mos I amost in the morning program. All your jerk shut

up McGirk. I and so you went on Howard before you were famous, and did didn't you do Howard? Yeah? Yeah, I used to do like it was never a good impression. It's just kind of a video pression on video of you on his show. Yes. Yeah, before I ever got into radio is right before I did a Jackie the joke Man impersonation contest that they had any excuse to get into the studio. So when I called up, they were like, all right, come on in, and I was thrilled.

I went in with a buddy of mind, Randy, and we drove into the city and got up into the old K Rock studios and it was a dream for me. I was standing there, Howard's behind the console, all the players are there, Fred and Jackie and Gary and Robin, and it was fantastic. And I, again, like I did with Opie, I figured I'm in there, I'm cutting loose so again, spinning the plates, juggling chainsaws, whatever I could do, And Howard's laughing his ass off, and I'm like, whoa,

this is great. Like I'm making Howard. They're gonna hire away from Opie in hindsight, is a good thing. He didn't because I had taken the Howard job, and we all know how those guys don't make it two dimes to rub together if you work with Howard. But no, it was it was fantastic, and that was that I I went then with with Opie. But I always had that that thing of making Howard laugh. So I thought he was like, oh, who's that Anthony. That Anthony's a

good He's good, he's funny. I was like, holy shit, is yeah, and so your idol knows who you are. He thinks you're talented. And then it went south because you guys blew up in the ratings. You became number one. Yeah, and now he's not the only talk of New York. Yeah, he feels he's got kind of squash anybody that's making

a name for themselves in radio. I guess even though we weren't a competitor, he knows how radio is, and we very well could have been a competitor at any moment, gotten hired away by If you two idiots can do it, then it diminishes what right, right, I'm the only guy whould be number one because the number one then it's like, Oh, anybody come to New York and the number one? I want to hear a little bit more about about current Anthony kobia, like the podcast, So, how is that how

your your radio show blew up? You were let go by serious exams. I want to for the listener to everybody up. You lose the gig going along, you can figure out how what happened. It happened, and then you don't have a show for a while, and the internet exists and you decide you're going to do something with yourself. Yeah. Yeah, I was up and running a month after I got fired. That's how quickly, because we know that's how you had to do it. It had to be quick. People forget

very quickly. And I had a studio built in my house already. I for years I loved the idea of just being home a news event happens, or I just feel like it popping on, going online and putting a show out there for people HD video so I could have news clips and a cry on and and a lower third, like I wanted it to look like the news, but with me just saying ridiculous stuff. So I it

had to be professional. So I had this studio in my house, thank god, because then when I got fired, Uh, my buddy Keith, the cop is just like, you got this studio down there, let's switch, let's figure it out. You know. All we really needed was the logistics of getting it out to a lot of people at once. Uh. So you know you need a company that hosts the servers and and things like that, the technical end. But yeah, and that took about a month and we were up

and running as a subscriber service, a subscribed service. Uh, and it was great. I was actually surprised at how quickly we were able to get that done. Uh. And then as time went on, we realized a lot of other shows I want to do this. They want the ability to get on and be completely uncensored. And uh, we picked up a few shows. You're a pioneer because a lot of them, a lot of the shows are away behind the carve. You were ahead of it. You

started this in what the summer fourteen, the the current show. Yeah, but even before that, like I said, I was doing the live from the compound from my house while I was still working at Serious for years before that. So even Joe Rogan, who has a very successful podcast, listen to it. We're up against him in in a podcast, right, but he doesn't love his fans. But he even said, like, it was your show from your house that inspired me to go, Yeah, why wouldn't somebody just grab a mic

and and do a show like that? So, guys, I have to give you credit. Not only did you put girls in Gallon dramas, but you, to my knowledge as a listener and a student of radio, one of the first shows to put webcams in the studio yea, to film things, to to make it a multimedia experience. I mean how it had the show on e but you guys had like a webcam that was taking like pictures, like like a couple of frames, a couple of streamed

at like one frame every ten seconds or something. And then you put cameras in every Mike station that followed you around the room. That was stuff that nobody was doing, right, Eric, Yeah, it was that. And then it upgraded to the pal Talk service where it was live streaming and they were interacting with us live on the air as the show. It was a video conferencing system called pal Talk. It was yeah, and it was on my laptop in front

of me. So people could watch me and do the show, and I would be watching monitors, like eight different feeds from people from their house, most of them naked girls in bed. So I would sit doing the show watch that. And Opie hated that one, oh because he knew sometimes I was just horribly distracted. Uh, but you know I had to get the next Canadian closet girl, so I was focus. I was shopping. It was online shopping for me. Yeah,

multimedia was not something. I'll take that one. And we know we never referenced, but real quick whip them out. Wednesday was you guys put bumper stickers on your cars. It's a w W would open Anthony logo and you put the like we've put the Z free money sticker right right, put the money sticker on your car and if we spot it, you get a hundred dollars right there you go. Every radio station has done that. You

guys had girls flash. Yeah people if you if you had on your car, girls would flash the drivers of the car. Yeah, we asked the girls and then you'd go live to people. You were sticker spotting, but it was a different kind of sticker spotting. Yeah, we'd do sticker stops and those were hilarious because Earl from the show would go out and do it and it was some some catastrophe would always happen. It was naked women right, right, more naked women. Right. So you're doing the Compound show.

The again, the pal talk thing was revolutionary. Now you're doing the Compound show. You have nine shows, is it? Yeah? I think we're up to nine and always looking and adding new ones we get. We're in talks with other people as we speak, and uh yeah, it's just building up into something that I never expected. I thought, here I am, I'm damaged goods. I need a platform and and we kind of put something together that a lot of other shows are are really um clamoring to get

on because they want to speak openly and honestly. Podcasts that are out there and the numbers growing over how and somebody that might be listening to this it might be inspired, like what do you look for? What do you because I mean, because now you're now you're also a producer to you're not You're not just oh yeah, yeah, this is your compound. You have to like I could tell when people are appreciative of the freedom that they can have at Compound Media. Uh and and and the

shows reflect that. In Hot Water with Geno Bisconti and Aharonberg is a show that we have on in the morning that I I watch and listen to and go, yeah, that's way over the line. I'm horrified by some of the stuff I see on that shows. Did you call the I reported them immediately. Uh, they're going to hru Yeah, it's uh. But that's the kind of shows. I want guys that are willing to take those chances, fearless that all they need is that platform that isn't gonna fire them.

I don't want a filter on people. Once you have a filter, it it takes away from the funny. You know, a joke can be hilariously funny. A second later, it's okay. Two seconds later, it's not even funny anymore. And if you're trying to think of who you might offend, or you're scared for your job or this, you're gonna filter things. And it's detrimental to actual comments right there. Is why when when you when I tweet a joke out on you know, because that's where I sometimes let my other

side out. People go too soon. You don't understand how a comics mind works. It's like if you say cold, I'm saying hot, like immediately, like, so the joke has to get out. It's almost like like a fart. You have to let it out right, so you get the fart out of the far out of your system. You tweet the joke. It's up to you as the as the listener or the tweet reader to decide when you're ready for it. I'm ready the minute it pops into

my head. I can't hold the joke. And because what happens is you tweet the joke three days later when it's acceptable, and they go, yeah, so and so did that a fourth guy. You gotta be first only because you want people to appreciate the joke. Jokes. Yeah, too soon, Lincoln sat in the theater. It's too soon. So yeah, you know, we played the play. You have this this snowflake jingle. So whenever we have like a snowflake story, people get offended. I can't believe it's so offensive. We

play this music real quick, up, snowflake alert. Here it comes. It's just an old song from and So. The beauty of your show, like she said, is no filter. Yeah, Paul, and you don't have time to think about whether or not you should say it or not. Yeah, yeah, now you own, you run. This is your thing, Compound media, as you would write, you the compound right, Well, let's give the compound media dot com. With all that said, if you've been paying attention to this, this podcast today,

I can't guarantee you won't be fired by this thing. Yeah, even though you own it, isn't it weird? It's still a five percent chance you could get fired. It gets me nervous when I see, like the Papa John guy gets fired, has to step down because he's doing things on Twitter. This is gonna be a reference no one's gonna get. But there's an eighties band called Docking. They've fired. You can't fire Doc. The band was named Dock and they fired him. So I prematurely asked the question because

it was in the middle of a great story. So I'm gonna come back to it now. How do you how do you handle this now? With this culture? Could you fire somebody who knows what we can? We could be fired for having you on our podcast. Built by association. We just let it fly, let it fly, put it out there. So, so how do you how do it? How have you changed? It's uh, I haven't. You're there, I am now you were worried about your own more, not worrying. I was horrified by But but people love

it and I think it's great. It's such a weird time wherein people want to be outraged. They they're they're they're looking at things, they're seeking out things to be mad at. Social media is the bane of of of society these days. It's the worst thing you could do

is go on social media. If you're a young kid and you want to have some kind of career in the future, What the hell are you thinking posting because you don't know something you right today, that's fine in ten years, could be the worst thing ever ever said. There's like that that Major League Baseball a picture he was like, oh, he made the All Star Game, Denne became famous. They found he had racist tweets. He had tweets that I know a guy who got fired for tweets.

It happened. Yes, it does happen, and you just, uh, yeah, I've divorced myself from social media and that it's one more divorce. But all of it is just so bad for society too. We've I think when it first came out, everyone thought, this is great. We're gonna be able to exchange ideas and and uh socialized, and it's gonna be a good thing. And we instantly brought it down to the lowest common denomina just crapping on each other over criticizing.

Because everybody has amplifications everyone everyone's opinion is equal. Some of these people don't deserve to be amplified. And you have access. I say it all the time. It's like, do you think Clark Gable had to put up with people telling him Gone with the winds sunk? Like, no, you would have to find like what's the addressed to Metro. I'm gonna get a hand out in the stamp, and then his people are gonna read it first. And if he says Gone with the wind suck, they're not giving

it to him. Now it's like, oh, yeah, your movie sucks. You shouldn't have that kind of access. And you know what, people, I have a rule if I talk about someone, I don't ever tweet at them, Like if I'm gonna complain about a movie or a baseball player, and then people will will reply and they'll add that person in and they go to I tell him to go, don't do that. If I wanted to let Mike Piazza know that I'm mad at my Piazza, I will tweet at Mike Piazza.

If I just write Mike Piazza, no at that's because I just want my fans and my followers and my mad friend friends to go, oh brody and opinion on my Piazza. I don't want my Piazza to know I have He'll catch heat because oh, you're a pussy copying him. I'm gonna copy him for Yeah, you don't get to make that to see. Yeah, you know, if you're gonna talk about him, I'm gonna let him know what you

talk about because now you're the one telling him. That's like if I go, that's like if I can call up open now and go, you know anything, just talking about you should listen to this podcast. He knows blessed if hope he wants to plug this podcast, he's mother the welcome listen. I have no beat, he played my songs, he pushed the start button. It's all fair, that's all good. Uh So people want to subscribe? Did they go to Compound Media again promo code compound for new subscriptions. Yeah,

that's that's only because of the Brooklyn Boys. If you don't listen to this podcast, you'd never get that exclusive. It's like Monty Burr, you put my name in by the microphones. Now, we we joked about this because we do this podcast. We don't we get paid for it. We do it after hours, right. We made a joke once you saw many people listening were like, you know,

and we've said it on the podcast. If we charged ten cents an episode, just ten cents or a quarter a month we do one week, like if you like us, I would pay ten cents for a podcast I like fully ten sense sense did I figured it out to go? We wouldn't be doing very well right right? Yeah, granted you are more successful than we are, and I'm fine with that. You could be humble. You charge a little more than ten cents. We have a higher overhead, you have that green screens, and you gotta pay for the

Rocks salary band with right bandwidth. But people are willing and I understand it. Well, we're not in the world now. We pay for Netflix, right, we pay for Hulu, we pay for Spotify, we pay my heart. Radios free, but you pay for the things you you're willing to pay right, You're willing to pay for HBO back in the day, Like pay for HBO. Now you're like, I couldn't live it out HBO. Of course, if something is your niche,

you'll pay for it. Yeah. We live in a world where you don't have to listen to something that's not really what I like, but I watch it. Yeah, it's and and it's kind of a safety too, because when you just depend on sponsors, you're opening yourself up to vulnerability of having people boycott. We're just having threatening pull sponsors and now you're screwed again. You never lost the pinnacle, horny goat weed spots or he that Oh my god.

I've been reading a lot of articles and seeing interviews that a lot of these people are saying that subscription is the future keeping this to great content alive. Yeah, because you can't depend on uh, some other entity to keep you going because they'll get to them and then you're screwed. We have a couple of sponsors, but it's not like you know, it's supplements what we're doing instead of we're living or dying by by the sponsor. Uh.

So we got people that subscribe. They're great, they support what we're doing, and they do appreciate again that that you know, we're saying whatever the hell we want, and it's it's great, this is great. I have to say selfishly, I would keep you here another three hours, you know, right, because I think legitimately two eighteen as we're recording this, until a nineteen years that I've been a fan. I remember we have a mutual friend or you do a great impression of that, I'm gonna ask you to do.

No one's gonna get I used to headline Governor's Comedy Club out in Long Island. I was in a comedy group and we we headlined Wednesday nights for about ten years. Comics would open for us. We would headline, so we had Kevin James, Lisa Lympinelli, some big name comics would come and open for us. But it was hosted by the morning show at B A B. Right, yeah, yeah, And so Bob came to me one day. He knew I was a comedian at the time and sketch comedy improv guy, and he said, uh, you know there's a

I said, hey, have you had these guys. I read in the paper that there's a new show in New York Opie and Anthony, and apparently they worked at B A B at some point he was the morning show guy Pep and you can do the voice. But he said, yeah, these guys are they really talented. I gotta say that, you're gonna really like them. Yeah, yeah, Bob was Bob

wanted me to do his show. Uh. When me and Opie were negotiating with Boston, they came to me and actually, Bob's like, we're gonna, We're gonna give you this opportunity. Anthony here at w B A V. You want, you want, you want the you want the seven to midnight. And I'm like, wait a minute, you're offering me Opie's show when Opie already said he'd go to Boston with me as a team, like that, what a what a that would be a scumbag move right there. I take his job.

And then and then Boston goes, well, we we wanted Opie and Anthony, and so I I turned that down. H yeah, because I didn't know from radio. I need to learn with that. On the flip side Z one at the morning show, I was dur in the morning show. I worked here. I was freelancing, sending in song parody scripts. I was faxing them in back in the day. I was sending cassettes in, you know, and uh. I hung out and I wrote jokes and whatever. They're like, hey, listen,

you can come back anytime you want. They didn't no job for me. They had nothing. They was just like, you can come in the morning. They said, you can come in. I was writing jokes for Leno and Bill Maher and Conan O'Brien, and I was I was hanging out in the studio. One morning, I was writing jokes and I was writing on a napkin with a sharpie, like it was just splotchy. There was no smartphones. And Elvis says to me, what are you doing over there?

I go, I'm writing some monologue jokes for Jay Leno. He was let me see those. So he looks at it. He was looks at Elliot, who was our host at the time. He says, if you're gonna stand in this studio and write jokes, you write them for me. Get him some scrap paper. And so I became the joke writer of the show. But I wasn't getting paid so my wife says to me, listen, if you want to hang out with these guys and learn radio, quit your job. I'll support you. Go wow. Yeah, different story than than

yours on the flip side. No threesomes in my life. And so I went to Bob Buckman and I said one Wednesday night when he was there, I said, Bob, listen, I have this opportunity to be on the morning show, but they're not gonna pay me. And he said, I gotta tell you. You get a foot in the door because you gotta take it. That's it because this industry, because you get in. You gotta get in. That's the key. Yeah, just get in, impressed them, make a job for yourself.

And so Bob was really the guy and my wife who pushed me to do radio and to take the leap quit my real job, which was I was in retail. Not you know, similar crappy job for me. It was miserable. If you haven't read telling you love it that's great. My wife, when we came back from Boston after that first interview we had on the Answering Machine, was like, hey, we want to hire you. I'm like, whoa, this is amazing.

Oh my God. The wife is like, because they said they would give me, it worked out to be five hundred dollars a year less than I was making doing construction. And my wife's like, you call them and tell them you need to make what you're making right now. And I'm like, this dummy doesn't understand that in six months they're gonna give me a raise. It's gonna be great. This is a career. It's not that someday you'd make

a lot of money. Give her Yeah, so yeah, exactly, so so so being the man I was, I was gonna show her. I picked up the phone, made like I dialed Boston and I'm like, well, listen here you I need Meanwhile, it's going Matt Matt, Matt, mac off the and uh. I hung the phone up. I'm like, well they went for it. She's like, good, see that's what you gotta go. She's not gonna know five hundred a year more or less, whatever, shut up, just as long as she's getting her Jack Daniels, I gotta say, Anthony,

I'm a huge fan. Brody's a super fan. As you can say, Um, you gotta pick up this book. I can't wait to get through the rest of it. Uh, it's permanently suspended. The rise and fall and rise again of radio's most notorious shock jock, Anthony Kumia. And of course don't forget Compound Media dot com and from new subscriptions using promo code Compound And by the way, that the prices on the back, but ironically the Canadian price is also on the back. Get Canadian dollars six dollars

Canadian go read it in a closet. There you go. Well, listen, we will, we will show up to the Compound if you'll have us. Yes, but and if this doesn't go well, we may be your tenth show because I will say exactly I'm sorry for the sake of you, Iraq. Thank you for making this happen today, Eric Anthony, thanks for having it. The funny thing is he screw up a

fan of show. He's sort of a pop pop nerd, which is you know, But thank you guys for coming in today, Thanks for twenty years of entertainment, Thanks for having him as a producer. We ended up with a with a fairly nice friendship. Yeah, he's a good game, he's a good guy, and I'm glad he's working again. Yeah, as he was hanging out in my driveway. Can I be on the put? He's been on I do three podcasts so far, he's been on two of them, so uh and he's he's he's, you know what, Eric, why

don't we plug your podcast one more time? Go ahead and plug yours. We can also be here heard here on iHeart Radio. It's Eric Nickel, right, that's Eric with a K. For some reason that that that told me he wasn't. She was like, oh, Nicol must be jos Eric with a K. What yes? Off Compound twenty as your promo code, Anthony Komia. It's a pleasure, gentlemen, Thank you so much. Getting the drunk Yeah. Brooklyn Boys, Brooklyn Brookland Boys, Bro