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The Briefing

A daily news podcast, The Briefing gives you the latest headlines, discussion and explainer interviews to keep you informed and entertained.

Bringing you the news you need to know at 6am and 4pm Monday to Friday, and profile features across the weekend, The Briefing is Australia's go-to news podcast for your commute, coffee or exercise.

Hosted by journalists Sacha Barbour Gatt, Chris Spyrou, Natarsha Belling, Helen Smith and Antoinette Lattouf.

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Michael was nearly beheaded by ISIS. He's worried they could be back

Headlines: Labor imposes counter-terrorism sanctions on online neo-Nazi network for the first time, North Queensland floods update, trade war looming over Trump’s tariffs against Canada, Mexico and China, and The Grammys are on today. Deep Dive: In the 2010s ISIS became one of the world’s biggest terror groups, controlling almost one-third of Syria and around half of Iraq. Over the years the group has claimed responsibility for terrorist attacks across the globe, including those in Paris in 2015...

Feb 02, 202528 minSeason 6Ep. 47

Steph Claire Smith doesn't care what a mother 'should' look like

Steph Claire Smith has always been a trailblazer - and the model turned business founder and podcast host with over 1.4million followers doesn’t stop. The O.G influencer started Kic with her best friend Laura Henshaw. Since then, the pair have sky rocketed to global success, releasing product lines and joining the LiSTNR family with the KICPOD Podcast. In this chat with Antoinette Lattouf, Steph opens up on how she's feeling about being an (almost) second time mum, her views of the 'Oatzempic' c...

Jan 31, 202537 minSeason 6Ep. 46

These apps will help you save (and sometimes make) money

2024 was full of comments, complaints and promises from politicians and companies over the cost of living - and so far this year we're looking likely to see the same thing. Lowering your weekly groceries shop, scoring a discount or filling up the tank for less is something we all want, so how can we do it? In this episode of The Briefing, we did the homework for you. Chris Spyrou is joined by The Briefing's Helen Smith to unpack which apps and tools can save you the most on fuel, food and fashio...

Jan 31, 202514 minSeason 6Ep. 45

BONUS: Sexsomnia is now a defence in sexual assault cases. What is it?

A man diagnosed with sexsomnia has been found not guilty of having non-consensual sex with a woman in Sydney. With the disorder now appearing as a key argument in trials across the country and the world, The Briefing wanted to bring you a previous explainer the team published on sexsomnia - what it is, how it works, what behaviours it can lead to. In this bonus episode, Helen Smith is joined by Aleks Trkulja from the Pleasure Centre, and specialist sleep physician Dr David Cunnington, so you can...

Jan 31, 202512 minSeason 6Ep. 44

Bunnings responds: Why 'big is not bad' in the hardware industry

In this morning’s deep dive, we spoke to consumer and money expert Joel Gibson about how Bunnings has monpolised the hardware industry. When we reached out to the hardware chain for comment, they were keen to dispute our assertion that it holds a leading stake in the market and insists big brands don’t equal bad brands. In part two of our look at Bunnings and how it’s managed to become cemented in Australia’s cultural zeitgeist, Sacha Barbour Gatt is joined by the chain’s Managing Director, Mike...

Jan 30, 202515 minSeason 6Ep. 43

Is Bunnings’ glowing reputation earned, or engineered?

Headlines: Greens to push for 50 cent public transport nationwide, no survivors after Washington plane and helicopter crash, Australians facing long-term homelessness surges 25% in five years and Donald Trump calls for Elon Musk’s Space X to “go get” stranded ISS astronauts. Deep Dive: By all accounts, Bunnings is a true blue Aussie success story. What started in 1907 as a sawmill in WA now boasts more than 300 locations across Australia and New Zealand and reported revenue in 2024 of $19 billio...

Jan 30, 202522 minSeason 6Ep. 42

Why this man wants us to stop using toilet paper

We’ve all got a butthole, but why are we so afraid to talk about it without making a joke of it? Professor Richard Hillman is one of the few specialists in Australia in anus cancer and he thinks it’s time we open up about the health of our rear ends. In today’s episode of The Briefing, Sacha Barbour Gatt speaks with the professor about anal hygiene, the case for banning toilet paper and why we need to end the stigma and shame around out buttholes. Follow The Briefing: TikTok: @listnrnewsroom Ins...

Jan 30, 202513 minSeason 6Ep. 41

Manslaughter, not murder: 14 believers guilty of little girl's death

Headlines: Caravan with explosives found in Sydney allegedly intended for antisemitic attack, lowered inflation rates open the door to April election date and Sweden charges man in first ever drink driving case involving a drone. Deep Dive: Elizabeth Struhs was an eight-year-old girl, living with incurable Type 1 diabetes in regional Queensland. Instead of receiving the insulin she needed to live, her parents and other members of their fringe religious group, The Saints, withdrew her injections,...

Jan 29, 202520 minSeason 6Ep. 40

Four ways politicians could make renting and buying less shit

Our major political parties each have plans they say will make renting better and home ownership easier for young people. We’ll believe it when we see it. But with a federal election coming up, are Labor, the Coalition and the Greens missing solutions that could save you serious money? On this episode of the Briefing, Bension Siebert speaks with McKell Institute Chief Executive Edward Cavanough about four ways to make renting or buying a house easier, and why most politicians aren’t talking abou...

Jan 29, 202518 minSeason 6Ep. 39

Why Chinese AI DeepSeek is making the tech world question everything

Headlines: Australia Day neo-Nazis face court in Adelaide, how Dutton’s promise to cut 36,000 government jobs could affect you, Trump signs orders to halt government grants and Happy Lunar New Year! Deep Dive: Has China just won the AI arms race? The United States has been the undisputed leader in the race for global AI domination – that was until this week, where everything changed. Meet DeepSeek - a little-known Chinese competitor to ChatGPT that has in one swift announcement wiped one trillio...

Jan 28, 202524 minSeason 6Ep. 38

The Algorithm, Part 2: What streaming is doing to how we make music

Are artists making music just for the algorithm? Alex Burnett is the Australian songwriter behind music with 1.4 billion streams on platforms like Apple Music and Spotify. He has worked on no less than 30 songs that have made it into Triple J’s Hottest 100, collaborating with artists like Thelma Plum, Hockey Dad, Alison Wonderland, Dan Sultan, Hayden James, Bliss n Eso and Flight Facilities. On this episode of The Briefing, Bension Siebert speaks to Alex about what it takes to make a song into a...

Jan 28, 202511 minSeason 6Ep. 37

The Algorithm, Part 1: How to stop Spotify killing your music taste

Headlines: Australia’s road toll hits 12-year high, Aussies pay more for dental care than most OECD countries, Donald Trump to sign order banning trans people from US Military and New York gets in on the stinky flower trend. Listen to our September 2024 deep dive 'The Case for putting dental in Medicare' with Jordan Steele-John on Apple or Spotify here. Deep Dive: Most of us have been listening to music for years through streaming apps – like the one you’re reading this on right now. But these p...

Jan 27, 202529 minSeason 6Ep. 36

Why do we dream?

Did you have a dream last night? Do you remember it? Dreams hold a lot of significance throughout history – but how much should we be reading into them, and is there any science to back up the theories we have for what we experience in our dreams? Dr Manuela Kirberg is a researcher and a lecturer in philosophy at Monash University and part of the Centre for Consciousness and Contemplative Studies, which looks at our sleep wake cycle. She joins Helen Smith on this episode of The Briefing to unpac...

Jan 27, 202519 minSeason 6Ep. 35

What it takes to become an Australian citizen on Australia Day

Headlines: Italian Jannik Sinner wins the Australian Open, Prime Minister Anthony Albanese speaks on Holocaust Remembrance Day and high temperatures predicted across the country today. Deep Dive: As we mark the Australia Day public holiday, whether you’re working, spending it at the beach or at a BBQ, attending a rally or getting through some chores – we can’t ignore the contentious nature of our national day. So, while many argue about what today should be used for – celebration or mourning – m...

Jan 26, 202520 minSeason 6Ep. 34

This Australia Day, Vanessa Turnbull-Roberts is thinking about the kids

Vanessa Turnbull-Roberts, is a proud Bundjalung Widubul-Wiabul woman who’s a survivor of out-of-home care and now a practising lawyer fighting for the freedom of others. She’s the first ACT Commissioner for First Nations children, won Marie Claire’s change maker of the year and is author of Long Yarn Short Long Yarn Short: We are still here. Speaking to The Weekend Briefing for a second time , Vanessa joins Antoinette Lattouf to unpack Peter Dutton’s controversial comments about refusing to stan...

Jan 24, 202546 minSeason 6Ep. 33

How Prince Harry made the Murdoch media empire say sorry

Sometimes sorry is the hardest, and in this case, most expensive word. This week, Prince Harry achieved something many thought impossible – receiving a “full apology” from Rupert Murdoch’s News Group Newspapers. The apology was part of a settlement over intrusions into the Duke of Sussex's private life, the use of private investigators, and "phone hacking, surveillance and misuse of private information". On this episode of the Briefing, Bension Siebert speaks with veteran journalist and former h...

Jan 24, 202517 minSeason 6Ep. 32

$2 a litre: Who’s f*cking with our petrol prices?

Headlines: Albo to promise $10,000 cash bonus for apprentices, Southport attacker jailed for 52 years over murder of three girls, Splendour in the Grass cancelled for a second straight year and Aryna Sabalenka one step closer to AO three-peat. Deep Dive: What the hell is going on with petrol prices? Right now in Australia, you can pay $2.26 a litre at one servo, but then drive past another, selling the same unleaded for $1.64, on the same road. Why? On this episode of the Briefing, Bension Siebe...

Jan 23, 202525 minSeason 6Ep. 31

Why you're waiting longer for shorter TV shows

Long gone are the glory days of television when we’d be handed 20+ episode seasons of our favourite shows, enough to keep us going and satiated for the year before a new run of episodes dropped. Now, good tv shows are sometimes rolling out just six episode seasons with gaps as long as two years between them. We know COVID and the 2023 writers’ strike had an impact - but what we’re really seeing is the ‘streamification’ of tv, with Netflix, Prime and Stan originals dominating the space with big n...

Jan 23, 202518 minSeason 6Ep. 30

We're tuning out the environment. Here’s why that’s dangerous

Headlines: Dutton gains ‘significant lead’ over Albanese as preferred PM, Trump threatens Putin with tariffs and demands apology from 'nasty’ bishop, cost of a Melbourne to Sydney flight has jumped since competition collapse and no Aussies left in the singles at the Australian Open. Deep Dive: How would you rate Labor on its environmental record? After sweeping to power in 2022 promising to be a point of difference to the Liberals, its failed to come through on a number of key pledges. As we hea...

Jan 22, 202523 minSeason 6Ep. 29

Could an Aussie get on the mission to Mars (and come back alive)?

Donald Trump says US astronauts will be planting an American flag on Mars within the next four years. But how about an Australian flag? In 2019 the then-PM Scott Morrison committed 150 million taxpayer dollars to get Australia a seat at the table for Project Artemis. Australia may not have anything of the scale of NASA, but we do have a national space agency. So could we see an Australian flag planted right next to the American one on the red planet in the next few years? Dr Rebecca Allen is Co-...

Jan 22, 202515 minSeason 6Ep. 28

You can now visit the Jonestown Massacre site - but should you?

Headlines: Trump’s first day back in office wrapped, AFP says foreign influence may be behind antisemitic attacks, mental health wards shut down in NSW as hundreds of psychiatrists resign and Novak Djokovic is through to the AO semi-final. Deep Dive: In November 1978, more than 900 people died in what’s become one of the most notorious mass murders in history; the Jonestown Massacre. Cult leader Jim Jones ordered his followers in the jungle of South America’s Guyana to drink punch-laced cyanide ...

Jan 21, 202523 minSeason 6Ep. 27

Trump is President again. Here’s how it affects Australia’s billionaires

Two of Australia’s richest people – Gina Rinehart and Anthony Pratt - were on the invites list to Donald Trump’s inauguration, as he was sworn in as US President for the second time today. It was the latest example of Trump collecting some billionaires from around the world to be part of the new president’s inner circle. So what does this mean for Australia? Could these relationships help us avoid tariffs Trump is threatening? Could it help our economy? Or will this just be a group of very rich ...

Jan 21, 202516 minSeason 6Ep. 26

Are unions holding Australians to ransom?

Headlines: Donald Trump returns to the White House, new polling shows Aussies are more optimistic in 2025 and Alex de Minaur is through to the AO quarter-finals! Deep dive: We have a lot to be thankful to Australia’s trade unions for; the five-day work week, annual leave entitlements and protections against unfair. Since the 1800s, the movement has been working hard to protect workers’ rights in this country and ensure those benefits are there for future generations once they get into the workfo...

Jan 20, 202526 minSeason 6Ep. 25

Is Novak Djokovic a 'political scapegoat'?

Novak Djokovic has made global headlines for opting out of a customary on-court interview following comments made by broadcaster Tony Jones, who chanted “Novak, he’s overrated... Novak’s a has-been. Novak, kick him out.” Djokovic said Jones’ comments “made a mockery of Serbian fans” and that they were “insulting and offensive” with members of the Serbian community calling them racist. In this episode of The Briefing Helen Smith is joined by Dr Nina Marković, board member of the Serbian council o...

Jan 20, 202517 minSeason 6Ep. 24

How big beer is taking over the taps at your local pub

Headlines: First hostages freed in Israel-Gaza ceasefire deal Peter Dutton promises tax-free lunches for small businesses TikTok back online for American users after Trump promises to save it Djokovic skips post-match AO interview awaiting apology from Nine Deep Dive: Who decides what beer is served on tap at your local bar, pub or club? It might not be obvious from all the brands and styles of beer on offer, but something like 80% of the beer we drink in Australia is owned by two Japanese megac...

Jan 19, 202526 minSeason 6Ep. 23

Kris Fade on bling, Dubai and avoiding drama

Kris Fade was told he wasn’t made for radio - now he’s one of the biggest media personalities in Dubai. The Lebanese-Australian presenter has become a household name in the Middle East and is gaining fans around the world after appearing in drama-packed reality show Dubai Bling. In this chat with Antoinette Lattouf, Kris reveals why he’s stepping back in season three, how fame has changed his life from his beginnings in Sydney, and what it takes to be on the show. Weekend List TO WATCH: Kunk on ...

Jan 17, 202545 minSeason 6Ep. 22

Why Gen Z are dancing in front of burning houses

Gen Z has been dubbed the most 'unserious generation' - but is it true? Viral social media posts of young creators dancing in front of LA's fires and storm damage in Sydney have prompted the theory that the generation can't seem to take anything - CEO's being shot, natural disasters, a cost of living crisis - seriously. But what's behind the behaviour, and is it a fair generalisation? In this episode of The Briefing Sacha Barbour Gatt, is joined by Gen Z representatives Chris Spyrou and Helen Sm...

Jan 17, 202519 minSeason 6Ep. 21

Could climate change turn you into a criminal?

Headlines: Israel stalls on signing Gaza ceasefire deal, Trump could save TikTok, the AO has a new villain and new study shows older siblings and girls are their parent's favourites. Helen Smith's deep dive on TikTok is available now on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Deep Dive: When you think of hot days, you might think of iced drinks, flicking on the AC or rushing to your nearest beach. But, what about more crime? Science says the two are connected, with one Australian study suggesting by the end...

Jan 16, 202521 minSeason 6Ep. 20

Everything you need to know about the Gaza ceasefire deal

After 15 months of violence and bloodshed, a ceasefire deal between Hamas and Israel has finally been reached. While there have been celebrations in the streets of both Gaza and Tel Aviv, the road to peace in the region will be long and is far from guaranteed. So, what happens now an initial deal has been struck and what hurdles stand in the way of a permanent end to the war? Professor Greg Barton, Chair in Global Islamic Politics at Deakin University joins Bension Siebert in today’s episode of ...

Jan 16, 202515 minSeason 6Ep. 19

How does a casino go broke? The Star saga explained

Headlines: Israel and Hamas reach ceasefire deal, Bill Shorten to leave politics nine days early, Coles to ban the sale of knives after staff stabbed and Vukic and de Minaur through to round three of the AO, Kokkinakis and Tomljanović crash out. Deep Dive: Casinos are usually synonymous with high rollers and high stakes. But running a business of the size and scale of a casino comes with big risks and big expenses – despite having a possibly never-ending stream of clientele addicted to participa...

Jan 15, 202525 minSeason 6Ep. 18
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