News Daily. Thanks for being here. In the opening hour of the show, we talked about Alexis de Tocqueville. And when he came to America and wrote his book, Democracy in America in 1835, he talked about the type of tyranny that we would see in this country.
And nearly 200 years later, he got it about spot on. And I thought it was actually a good segue into what we did the second hour, which was a tough love segment. I have no idea how it came across. Probably very flat, but we'll put it here anyway. RFK and Health and Human Services can do so much. The rest is up to us and people and our actual individual decisions that we make about our lives. And are we at a place in our country where we're ready for that? That's what we talked about here.
I want to introduce something in today's show that may not be as edifying, honestly. I want to introduce something on the almost anniversary, Russian's anniversary, on the eve, the almost eve of... the holiday we have that is centered around gluttony this is the tough love part of this conversation about make america healthy again
a couple things here uh and we did a little bit of this in the last hour but we can talk with glee and excitement about making all the cuts that need to be cut that need to be made and will be made by vivek and elon and it's going to be great i can't wait for it all but it's also going to be very hard on a lot of people and a lot of people are going to be very upset on what is going to happen
And I don't know if everyone's ready for it. Like the people who make fluoride. I'm like half kidding about that, but not really. Like if we're going to get the fluoride out of the water. Okay, well, someone makes a lot of money selling fluoride.
and they thought they had the cushiest deal ever because we have these massive government contracts across the country and now there will be none right i don't know who knows what rfk will end up doing like ban it totally or i don't know but if you're making fluoride for a living
You're not going to be thrilled. Yesterday, we told the story of Cenk Uygur. Is that the Young Turks guy? And he wrote Elon. He said, hey, I want to help cut Pentagon and budget. And Elon said, good suggestions. What do you got? And this guy said, I want to make it so if you're a general, you cannot retire and go right to the military industrial complex for 10 years. I was like, okay, well, those military industrial complex companies are going to be very mad.
when they can't get the generals on their boards anymore because they're going to lose a direct connection to the generals when they're currently working and they're going to lose that that that relation okay so they're gonna be very angry I read an article yesterday about the fast food companies and the junk food companies getting ready to lobby hardcore to stop RFK. These are like existential crises for these companies.
Crumble Cookie is not going to be happy. There's a lot of companies out there that are going to be very unhappy with Make America Healthy. The pharmaceutical companies are going to freak out. That was one of my big takeaways with Dr. Drew when I asked him about the advertising.
for pharmaceuticals it's like who is buying this random medicine that i've never heard of for a treatment i've never heard of and you know the whole joke like it's a 60 second ad of 48 seconds of it is the side effects like what are these things
and he's like oh it's not like they don't they don't pencil out it's just leverage it says hey uh cbs we pay and this is this i'm not kidding back in 2021 they did the study pharmaceutical ads are 75 percent of ad revenue for television 75 of the ad revenue is from pharmaceutical companies now Television companies are going to be very upset if we make it so you can't advertise it, right? They are going to lose most of their money.
That's a problem. They're going to be very upset at that. And the pharmaceutical companies are going to be upset because now they don't have the leverage over the news organizations of these TV stations to give them favorable press because that's what it was. Hey, we got this big story about. um about a pharmaceutical company and somehow horrible one of their drugs is and they come back and say hey um we pay 75 of your hat dollars maybe you don't run that story
And what do you think the news company is going to do, right? Well, now they may not have that anymore. So the pharmaceutical companies are very upset. The gravy trains over for a lot of people, and those people aren't going to like it. This is the clip I was looking for earlier. This is the new president of Argentina who's been in for like a year or so. And his whole thing was, we're getting rid of everything. And they did.
He's the Afuera guy. Afuera, Afuera. He hit on his whiteboard. He had all these magnets with all the different government bureaucracies. And he just went through. He's like, government of education, Afuera. Minister of this. Afuera, Afuera. He threw it on the ground.
Here he is on the Lex Friedman podcast through a translator. What advice would you give to Elon and Vivek about how to do it in the United States? Just cut to the chase. Cut to the chase. Simple as that. I'll tell you a story and you're going to love it.
I should know the story. The story's not that great. He oversold the story, so I'll skip over the story. But just cut to the chase. He's got to do it. He removes between one and five economic restrictions. So my advice would be for them to go all the way to push it to the very limit.
And do not give up. Do not let down their guard. Furthermore, that agenda does not have political purpose. Because at the end of the day, you are removing privileges. Of course, there will be people complaining, but those are people... These are people who are losing privileges, so they will have to explain to society why they are keeping those privileges. And that is quite uncomfortable. You ready for it? Are we ready for it? We did a conversation, we had a conversation today about...
federal workers working from home. Just read an article yesterday. And it was all the sob stories from people who are working at home and it's, you know, they can't afford childcare and they moved to be closer to their mom who was in failing health. And now they're going to go to DC and they can't do it. What are they going to do? And they go, you're going to hear it forever. You're going to hear every single day. You're going to hear all this stuff.
Are we ready for it? Now, that's all background. Here's the tough love part about Make America Healthy Again, which I'm very excited is resurging as a conservative value once again. But... are we really ready for it heather mcdonald wrote an article about this agenda and she had two points the first point was we have become a society that has a medicine
mentality and it's become this very american idea that we take the shortcut we look for the quick fix we pop the pill if we have a medical problem we don't get to the root of it we just pop the pill problem solved This has never been the American way. The American way has always been to do it the right way and the thorough way, the complete way. We are thorough and complete. That has always been our culture. We have never been a people who look for shortcuts, but we do now.
So we need to get back to how we used to be with this. And we do it with everything. We just pop a pill for any problem that we have. I think that's the solution. And we do it with weight, right? We want the quick fix, hence Ozempic, which would be the biggest drug ever. And really, you need to change your diet and exercise. And I know it's easier said than done. I know some people it's easier than other people, but it doesn't make it less true. So let me quote Heather McDonald this Sunday.
November 17th, hymns and hers. Do you know what hymns and hers are? I don't really know. It's like, Zach, do you know how to pronounce, or do you know how to describe hymns and hers? It's like a wellness company or something. I don't know how else to describe it. I don't know what else. I don't know what they sell. They sell a bunch of medicines. Hims and Hers ad complained that access to effective treatment for extreme obesity remains out of reach for many.
Unlike treatment for breast cancer, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, and HIV, it's time to change that, concludes the pitch. Heather says the hims and hers argument that obesity is a genetic disorder like Alzheimer's or Parkinson's.
largely outside the control of its victims, may be self-interested, but it also has been the position of the public health industry for years. We're to believe that the sharp rise of obesity in the U.S. over the last several decades is due to genetic changes in American susceptibility to weight gain. It's so ridiculous. But if you say that obesity is caused by behavior, then you're blaming the victim and it's this whole emotional thing.
But it has to be behavior. Our genes have not changed in the last 50 years. That doesn't make any sense. Now Heather makes a good point here. So RFK's other passion. One that Trump said he will keep him away from is environmental issues. So here's Heather McDonald. Environmental litigation focuses obsessively on chemicals.
Kennedy ties Americans' worsening health to those chemicals. He's fixated on the dyes that make processed junk food more brilliantly colored. He wants to get rid of the artificial coloring and fruit loops. He wants more regulation of preservatives and pesticides. And her argument is that blaming the chemicals alone is too simple of an argument. And it's not enough. I would say it's a good start. I think we have to do all those things. But that's not enough.
So my argument is that a lot has been said about Froot Loops, right? Froot Loops, for whatever reason, has become the example of here are all the dyes. Like in Canada, the dyes are made from blueberries and carrots.
And in America, the Fruit Loops, the dye, the coloring is made from red 40 and yellow five and all these other chemicals. And it's like, hey, this is a big crusade right now. And conservatives have embraced it and it's wonderful. Hey, we should get rid of these horrible chemicals in the Fruit Loops. And I'm all, yeah, I totally agree with that. Also, you shouldn't eat fruit loops.
But now we got a problem. Hold on. By the way, it's spelled F-R-O-O-T. There's no fruit in Fruit Loops. They don't even spell the word fruit. But this is where the government can't, this is where the government stops and where people and their own personal responsibility comes in.
And this is what I'm not sure if people are ready for, but this needs to be a part of Make America Healthy Again. It can't just be we're sitting back and we're like, take the red dye out of my Froot Loops. And then we continue to eat Froot Loops every morning or night or whenever you eat your cereal.
right we got like you know you wouldn't we need a and like and then you're eating fruit loops every morning you're like this is healthy there's no red dot 40 in it like no you shouldn't eat fruit loops oh you know you're better than me you think you're better than people We need a cultural movement of real health and we need a cultural movement of cooking. People don't know how to cook. We've had a couple generations now of moms not cooking. So daughters and sons don't know how to cook.
They don't cook food. People don't cook. So the government has stepped in. And this ties into the de Tocqueville stuff we talked about in the last hour as well. People don't feed their kids. People don't cook. People don't feed their kids food. They don't feed them lunch. They don't feed them lunch. They don't feed them breakfast. So then the government is coming in and like, wow, I guess we'll feed people food. And then they feed them just slop.
How easy is it to make some eggs in the morning for the love of Pete? How easy is it to make oatmeal in the morning? Nope. Don't do it. Got to drop your kids off at school. Got to make sure they get there for school breakfast. Jeez. So this is a major cultural problem, and I don't know. There's a limit to what health and human services can do. Okay, if we're going to feed our kids lunch at school, can it at least be real food?
If we're going to still have food stamps, can we make it so you can't buy junk food at all? No junk food for food stamps? Can we at least go that far? So I'm trying to toe the line here. Like, yes, there's a role for government. Yes, there are the things we should do, but that's not going to be enough. People have to make better decisions.
And the government can do a lot, maybe, but people are still going to go out of their way to find all the poison they can shove down our gizzard. And people will do it. Nothing's going to change until we really... or not enough is going to change unless we really start to make better decisions ourselves this is heather mcdonald persuading others to change their behavior is a nearly insurmountable task passing regulation is something the government officials can do
And so every problem looks like a regulatory failure to those in the government. Blaming corporate or social forces for bad decisions within an individual's control is a left-wing impulse. Blaming corporate or social forces for bad decisions within an individual's control is a left-wing impulse. Americans need to hear a hard truth. They're eating themselves to death. Only they can restore their bodies to the proper shape.
and function from Heather McDonald. That's some uncomfortable truth right there. Someone wrote me a note the other day. They said they were eating something. They were given something and they were eating something and they looked at the ingredients and it was like, there's no food in it. So they threw it away. And I wrote, I wrote her back like this, like pretty long, like hard, like hardcore, like good for you. Like that. I don't want you to like, I don't want you to give yourself.
a little bit of credit like that's a huge deal like you were eating this addict this chemically addicted thing that was given to you it was in your hand and you already consumed a bit of it and i'm sure it was delicious but you looked at it and intellectually thought, this is not food. I'm going to throw it away. That is a big, big deal to do that. Because we never do.
All right, I don't want to let it go to waste. I'll just eat it all. Since I'm on this theme and making everyone mad, I might as well just finish up. This is the theme of hillbilly elegy as well. J.D. Vance in Hillbilly Elegy, perhaps worth a read over this Thanksgiving holiday coming up. This was my read of Hillbilly Elegy, by the way. He said, whenever people ask me, this is our new vice president.
Whenever people ask me what I'd most like to change about the white working class, I say it is the feeling that our choices don't matter. That's a tough message. My read of Hillbilly Elegy was that the problems in his region of the country, but everywhere, is it's a combination of government hurting people, making people's lives worse, and...
You got to get your life together and make better choices. It's both those. He'll be, he'll be able to talk about it. Here are all the government problems, the things that they've done that are terrible. Also stop being an idiot and make better choices about your life. And that's a tough, that's tough love.
And I don't know if there's an appetite for that. Maybe we're too far in the government will solve all of our problems. And now we elected Trump. We can just sit back and RFK Jr. can do a couple of things with pesticides and we'll all be healthy again. It's like, no, it's not it.
Well, he's going to fix the no more red dye and Froot Loops. I can eat all the Froot Loops I want. There are so many problems caused by our government, countless. And there are so many problems caused by our own bad choices. Listen for... 20 minutes to Dave, five minutes to Dave Ramsey. And you can hear people's terrible financial decisions. Like right now on Dave Ramsey, click up a little bit. You'll hear someone call in and talk about how they're $80,000 in debt.
and they have a car payment. Each car is a $14 car payment, and they make $60,000 a year, okay? You'll hear that right now. And then you just click up to Dr. Laura, and you'll hear people who are on their third husband.
And 12 kids, whatever. Like everyone's making horrible financial decisions. We're all making horrible relational decisions. We're all making bad health decisions. We make really bad, stupid decisions all the time. And really things aren't going to get better until we start making better decisions.
This is J.D. This is from Hillbilly Elegy. Psychologists call it learned helplessness. When a person believes, as I did during my youth, that the choices I made had no effect on the outcomes of my life. Whenever people ask me what I'd most like to change about the white working class, I say, the feeling that our choices don't matter. The message of the right is increasingly, it's not your fault that you're a loser, it's the government's fault.
okay so that he said that's the message of the right it's not your fault you're a loser it's the government's fault and jd's point is like no it's your fault I don't know what the answer is precisely, but I know it starts when we stop blaming Obama or Bush or faceless companies and ask ourselves what we can do to make things better. People talk about hard work all the time in places like Middletown.
Ohio. You can walk through a town where 30% of the young men work fewer than 20 hours a week and find not a single person aware of his own laziness. A lot of students just don't understand what's out there, she told me, shaking her head. You have the kids who plan on being baseball players, but don't even play on the high school team because the coaches mean to them.
There's a cultural movement in the white working class to blame problems on society or the government, and that movement gains adherence by the day. Is America ready for the tough love? When it comes to health, or with many other... parts of our culture as well here's jd uh the landlord arrived uh here we go during my junior year of high school our neighbor patty called her landlord to report a leaky roof
The landlord arrived and found Patty topless, stoned, and unconscious on her living room couch. Upstairs, the bathtub was overflowing, hence the leaking roof. Patty had apparently drowned herself in a bath. excuse me, drawn herself a bath, taken a few prescription painkillers and passed out. The top floor of her home and many of her family's possessions were ruined. This is the reality of our community.
It's about a naked druggie destroying what little of value exists in her life. It's about children who lose their toys and clothes to a mother's addiction. This was my world, a world of truly irrational behavior. We spend our way into the poorhouse. We buy giant TVs and iPads. Our children wear nice clothes thanks to high interest credit cards and payday loans. We purchase homes we don't need, refinance them for more spending money, and then declare bankruptcy.
often leaving them full of garbage in our wake. Thrift is inimical to our being. We spend to pretend we're in the upper class. And when the dust clears, when bankruptcy hits or a family member bails us out of our own stupidity, there's nothing left over.
Nothing for the kids' college tuition, no investment to grow our wealth, no rainy day fund if someone loses their job. We know we shouldn't spend like this, and sometimes we beat ourselves up over it, but we do it anyway. This is J.D. Vance. Our homes are a chaotic mess.
We scream and yell at each other like we're spectators at a football game. At least one member of the family uses drugs, sometimes the father, sometimes both. At especially stressful times, we'll hit and punch each other, all in front of the rest of our family, including young children. Most of the time, the neighbors hear what's happening.
A bad day is when the neighbor calls the police to stop the drama. Our kids go to foster care but never stay for long. We apologize to our kids. The kids believe we're really sorry and we are. But then we act just as mean a few days later. Will JD, can JD, can anyone spread this message? Could he do this when he's vice president? Is it a message that needs to be spread? Or is it go over?
as flat as this segment is going over right now. Hard work, self-respect, self-discipline. That's what JD writes about. Hard work, self-respect, self-discipline. But what if you have a culture that doesn't have those values? Then what? Well, we'll put RFK in charge. What's he going to do? A lot. Don't get me wrong, a lot. Maybe we shouldn't have fluoride in our water. That'll help. There's evidence that perhaps fluoride lowers our IQ.
okay so good so i'm not and i'm not belittling that like that's a big deal like we should we'll talk about it we'll probably get the flight out of the water and maybe our iq points go up too all right great uh we're still gonna eat the fruit loops for brett or what are we what are we doing
I once, JD says, I once ran into an old acquaintance at a Middletown bar who told me that he had recently quit his job because he was sick of waking up early. I later saw him complaining on Facebook about the Obama economy and how it's affected his life. I don't doubt that the Obama economy has affected many, but this man is assuredly not among them. His status in life is directly attributed to the choices he's made, and his life will improve only through better decisions.
But for him to make better choices, he needs to live in an environment that forces him to ask tough questions about himself. This is our vice president. There's a cultural movement in the white working class to blame problems on the side of our government. The movement gains adherence by the day. Tough love. There's only so much the government can do. I'll read one more part here. As a child, his culture... Our culture taught us that to do well in school made you a sissy.
Okay, we got to stop that mentality. Or in the black schools, oh, you're acting white when you want to read. He says, I believe we hillbillies are the toughest GD people on this earth. But are we tough enough to do what needs to be done to help a kid like Brian? Brian lived a life just like him.
The drug addicted mom whole thing. Are we tough enough to build a church that forces kids like me to engage with the world rather than withdraw from it? Are we tough enough to look ourselves in the mirror and admit that our conduct harms our children? Public policy can help. but there's no government that can fix these problems for us these problems were not created by governments or corporations or anyone else we created them and only we can fix them
I lied. Let me read one more. This is JD. This is not in the book. This is him on some podcast. He said, I was speaking with a friend the other night and I made the point that the meta narrative of the 26 election is learned helplessness as a political value. We're no longer a country that believes in human agency. And as a formerly poor person, I find it incredibly insulting. Obviously, I didn't see.
Mamaw recognized that our lives were harder than rich white people. Rich white people. But she always tempered her recognition of the barriers with a hard-nosed willfulness. Never be like those blank holes. who think the deck is stacked against them. It was Mamaw. Mamaw got J.D. out of the churn of poverty and the poverty mindset.
Never be like those blank holes who think the deck is stacked against them. So we didn't. Now he's vice president. Now we can't all be vice president, but we can at least get out of this churn. So are we ready as a culture? are we ready for people to recognize that the government interference in our lives makes a big difference and we need to fix that but if we really want to thrive then we need to make better choices over our own lives as well are we ready for that because if i may
That really is the only way we can truly make America great again. Trump can clear the table, but we're the ones who have to do the work. Nice to listen to Breitbart News Daily. Ron Johnson, Senator from Wisconsin. Senator, we have a lot to talk about. What do you believe that Trump's nominees are going to make it through the Senate? I think so. Barring some...
Disqualifying disclosure. You know, listen, as I've been saying, so we get reports on different ones of them. They deny them. Why would anybody believe the corporate media? Why would anybody? believe Democrats. I mean, their entire playbook is lying and deception. We saw the corporate media take up the whole Russian collusion hoax and run with that. They still haven't apologized for it. They've still held on to their poll surprises.
Again, from my standpoint, President Trump won the election. He deserves to have the people that he wants serving in his administration. When I ran in 2016 with him on the ballot, I would frequently refer to him as the political equivalent. of disruptive technology. And, you know, now he's coming in for second term, four years removed from his first term. He understood, I think he understands, that there are so many people in the deep state that sabotaged his administration.
He's not going to let that happen again. So he needs some fighters heading up these departments. You can always hire people, operational guys. But at the top, you need people who are willing to implement things that, for example, Elon Musk and Vivek. are talking about in the Wall Street Journal article. I mean, that's what is most encouraging to me is, I mean, these guys are thinking outside the box. They are looking to engage in the struggle.
the battle that we need to engage in in terms of, you know, chopping the federal government down in size, you know, reducing its influence over our lives, reducing its cost, the deficits. That's what we have to do. We need paradigm shifts. We need dramatic change. That's what Donald Trump ran on. That's what he intends to deliver. And, again, I'm fully supportive of him.
I think you were maybe referencing Matt Gaetz a moment ago, and our mutual friend Jesse Kelly said, listen, this nonsense doesn't work on me. This is what they do. First, they make a damaging accusation you can't prove. Then you act as if it's true. And then when shot down, you say things like, well, but what if it is true? And that's a smear tactic. It doesn't work. And we played this clip earlier of Nancy Pelosi from years ago.
It's a self-fulfilling problem. You demonize, and then you, we call it the wrap-up smear. If you want to talk politics, you call it the wrap-up smear. You smear somebody with falsehoods and all the rest, and then you merchandise it. And then you write it, and they'll say, see, it's reported in the press that this, this, this, and this, so they have that validation that the press reported the smear, and then it's called the wrap-up smear. Now I'm going to merchandise.
the press's report on the smear. How does that still work on even senators? First of all, what's interesting about that is she's accusing Republicans of doing that, but they're the ones that do it. Again, that's the classic, you know. Procedure of the left is they falsely accuse your political opponents of doing exactly what you do ten times worse. And so, you know, it is. I mean, the left, they are the party of fear and division and lies and deception.
And fortunately, a big enough majority of Americans realized that their eyes were opened and they got defeated this last election. But listen, we need to live around those promises. We need to. make sure that we govern for the benefit of all Americans, particularly the working men and women that build this country and will make it great again. So we're on a relatively short leash. We've had to deliver. And again, I think...
President Trump is aggressively appointing people that will do just that. I got the video of Tuberville yesterday with a giant zero next to him on the Senate floor. The number of Democrats who voted against Biden's 21 cabinet appointments. So why do Republicans feel the need to do this dance where it's like, well, I don't know if they're the right. I mean, New York Post yesterday saying bail on Gates and.
uh tulsi and you gotta get these squished republicans who are like we gotta maybe go back to the drawing board on these what's up with that well i think it's just the you know the reaction that gets inbred when you're always dealing with the corporate and legacy media that are completely opposed to you. Again, Democrats, it's easy. We don't have journalists in the corporate media anymore. We have advocates for the left, so they're on their side.
So it's a lot easier as a Democrat senator. You never get called on the carpet on this stuff. Now, I got asked about Matt Gaetz. I just held up this picture of Rachel Levine and that Sam Brighton, whatever that guy's name is. The two drag queens, basically. And I asked, I mean, did you ask Democrats about these nominees? Of course they did. So it's just that unlevel playing field. It's the unfair fight.
It's kind of a defensive mechanism. It's just like, I don't want to get attacked by these corporate media, so I'm going to hedge my bets, I guess. Again, it's an ingrained reaction from years and years. Totally, but we're done with that now. like this this media nonsense there's zero influence it's over all that stuff just we got to forget about those people once and for all um tell me that john thune is gonna get the job done
I hope so. Again, John Thune is not Mitch McConnell. I think what was interesting about our candidate forum the Monday night before the vote is it was pretty much repudiation. of Mitch McConnell's one-man dictatorship. It truly was. I mean, there was not much of a difference in terms of how Corning Thune or Rick Scott spoke in terms of how they wanted to be a leader. You know, far more collaborative, you know, engaging.
the conference in developing a strategy, us knowing what the strategy was, no surprises, supporting President Trump, his nominees, his agenda. So that's what they all said. The conference chose John Thune. I like John. He's a smart guy. He's an articulate guy. I'll do everything I can to help him succeed because he's committed to helping President Trump succeed. So we move forward. I was a big supporter of Rick Scott, not because I dislike.
John Thune and John Cornyn, Rick Scott's a pretty extraordinary individual with the kind of skill set in the private sector that I thought would have been valuable for our conference, but the majority of our conference thought otherwise.
Again, I will do everything I can to help John be successful. We'll give it a go. Last time we talked, maybe two times ago, you were about to put on this event. It's not quite a hearing. I don't know what the official word for it is, but about Make America Healthy Again. And it seemed to be a wonderful success. And now we have some major momentum on this on this route. So my first question is what to you stood out in that hearing? But then I want to.
tell you what we did the whole last two hours of the show is we did some tough love we can get the red dye 40 out of fruit loops right but also maybe we shouldn't be eating fruit loops so Where does the role of government end and people begin, people's personal responsibility? First of all, education. Making sure that what science is presented to the public.
has integrity, that it's true. And right now, science has been thoroughly corrupted. I think the two highlight moments is really when the food babe showed the fruit loops in America versus Canada. America's was far brighter, okay? But I think the most important snippet of testimony was Dr. Chris Palmer, a psychiatrist who really looks at the connection between nutrition and mental health. He said, you know, they don't want to discover the root cause.
of chronic illness, of autism. I think that's probably the most powerful truth that came out of it. And that's, again, what Bobby Kennedy fights, that that's what I fight. The powerful interests that like things the way they are.
Whether it's big ag or big food processing, you know, they've got a profitable model here, and they don't want anything to disrupt that profitable model. Now, I want to be a very honest broke here. I don't want to throw the baby out of the bathwater. You know, I think we've... you know, all kinds of marvelous inventions using chemistry, okay? But we have to ask the question, what is causing chronic illness? What has caused this explosion in autism? I mean, could it be we've gone from three...
childhood vaccines to 85 and we administer them multiple doses at a time. How could that, you know, certainly plausible to me that could completely screw up somebody's immune system. Maybe that does contribute to autism. I do know, because this was in the movie Vax, and we have some whistleblowers and we have some documents, that the CDC, FDA, they've hidden evidence. of links between autism and, for example, the MMR vaccine. That's been documented. It's not widely known.
But again, what is the truth? So from my standpoint, the fundamental, the fundamental issue that Bobby Kennedy has to implement is we need we need integrity to return to science. Because right now there was a survey in Nature magazine in 2016. 70% of research studies, the data couldn't be replicated. That's a problem. You had the head of the New England Journal of Medicine resign in 2000, Marsha Angel. And she started writing about why she did.
You know, reluctantly over decades, she came to recognize you couldn't rely on the science that she was publishing in the New England Journal of Medicine, the gold standard of these things. So, again, science has been corrupted as President Eisenhower predicted.
You allow government to fund science, it will corrupt it. And you look at how science is funded, it's funded by big corporate interests, big government that want a certain result, and by God, they get that result. So again, we need integrity to return to science. That's a pretty heavy lift right there. Okay. What is the truth of vaccine liability? And I'm thinking of the old JFK. I think it was JFK. We talked about how if you don't...
You don't get rid of a fence unless you know why it was there in the first place. So I'm sure there was I'm making this up. So I'm asking you, but I'm sure there was some story where someone made a vaccine and someone got. hurt by it and they sued the company and everyone was worried that no one would make any more vaccines because someone may sue and it's not worth it anymore so there's like okay i'll tell you what
You guys make your vaccines and no one's allowed to sue you anymore. Okay, well, now we've got another problem on the other side of the spectrum. So what's the truth here and how do we do this? Well, you laid out it. So what ended up happening in the 80s is...
vaccine manufacturers were about to be sued out of existence. I mean, nobody wanted to engage in it because of the trial lawyers. So again, that's a problem. Listen, we need that, that adversarial process. We need lawyers to be able to hold people accountable, but you can't have. trillion dollar settlements. It's got to be reasonable. We've got to put caps on these things, right? Or else you will destroy your economy. So you had that issue.
Congress responded by passing the childhood vaccine safety law or whatever it was called. That law, by the way, did not eliminate liability for vaccine manufacturers. That was a wink and a nod. And through regulation. They eliminated that liability. And as a result, now you have drug companies. There's no liability.
which is one of the major costs in delivering a drug. So that's why we've gone from three to over 85 doses of these childhood vaccines. We're giving infants a vaccine against sexually transmitted disease. Because it's profitable. And by the way, pediatricians, they get incentives for making sure their patients get these vaccines. So the entire process has been corrupted. The truth is difficult to.
Glean, if you want to read a really good book on this, it's a weird title, Turtles All the Way Down. It's just based on science. It lets the readers read the science. It's not anti-vax in any way, shape, or form. Dissolving Illusions is a great book. shows you that most of these childhood infections, diseases were conquered by, we stopped living in squalor. We provided sanitation, sewer systems. That's what really defeated most of these diseases.
Turtles all the way down does give vaccines credit for eradicating it. So again, we need science with integrity. We need to open up our minds. We have to be able to ask the question.
what is causing autism, what is causing chronic illness, and not be afraid of what the truth is. What was the second book you mentioned? It was Turtles All the Way Down, and then what? Turtles All the Way Down, and then Dissolving Illusions. That's the one that really talks about and shows the charts of how... these infectious diseases were pretty well conquered just by improving sanitation and antibiotics i mean we treated diseases
Yesterday, we talked about the measles vaccine. Everyone's like, oh, it eradicated measles in 1963. It's like, well, actually, measles went down in 1920 when vitamin A became a known and... known vitamin and one that we could isolate so it's like well maybe it's vitamin a and not i don't know but
We got to figure this out. All right. Switching gears. Super grateful that you're on the forefront of this and all over. And it's going to be an exciting time. The left Democrats want to jam in some traditional nominees. in the last 59 days here what is that process how many are we talking about and what are you going to do
Well, first of all, this was a failure of leadership. I mean, you can't sugarcoat this, OK, from I'm sorry, President Trump all the way down. I mean, this was not hard to anticipate that they were going to jam through some awful judicial. nominees that had gone through the judiciary committee. I understood I had to be back here. We're in session. I've got to be here to vote these things down. Five senators, I guess, didn't realize that they had other things on their mind, apparently.
But now, you know, we let one slip through to the 11th Circuit. That's a tragedy. But we got everybody back last night. And so now Schumer realizes that he can't get these circuit court judges confirmed because. Manchin and Sinema, who've not been treated very well by the Democrat colleagues, are going to vote with us on these bad judges. So he recognized reality. I think they struck a deal last night that, okay, we'll let the district court judges, because we can't stop them through.
But I think we've killed off these circuit court judges, which will open those openings for President Trump to appoint. So I think we won that one. We lost one that we shouldn't have lost. But, you know, we recognize the error of our ways and we got the senators. Everybody here last night, and now Schumer realizes the reality of the situation. How did that person on the 11th get through? Because we had, I don't want to name, we had five centers not show up.
They were, you know, involved in the administration. And again, it was a leadership failure. I can't sugarcoat it. It never should have happened, but it did. Man, there's going to be a ramification to that. There's going to be some decision that that judge. Oh, yeah, no. It's a tragedy. It should not have happened. Again, it was a leadership failure. I was here. I understood it. We've got one minute. What is one piece of legislation that you wish we could pass right now?
And we have it on the president's desk on January 20th to sign and not just be an executive order. Reduce the size of the federal workforce through Attrition Act. It's the first piece of legislation I introduced when I got here in 2011. You don't have to fire people. Had we enacted that in 2011, the size of the workforce would be a fraction of what it is today. We don't need a government this large.
Also, I do like Preventing Government Shutdown Act because we need leverage in these funding fights. So, you know, the no default bill. There are many things we can do that set us up, give us leverage. My biggest hit on McConnell is he never sought leverage in all these funding battles. He never sought it because, quite honestly, he didn't really mind big spending. He went from $8 to now $36 trillion in debt under his watch.
Yeah, that's why he didn't mind. Well, that's why he didn't do it because he was good with it. Senator Ron Johnson, the great from Wisconsin. Senator, grateful for you. Thank you, sir. Have a great day. Keep up the good work. American-made. Thanks for listening to Breitbart News Daily. I'm off next week, so tomorrow will be our Thanksgiving spectacular. One of our favorite guests, actually the guest in my 15, 16 years of radio that I've gotten the most comments on.
Barring a World War II veteran. There was one World War II veteran. But other than the World War II veteran, it's Richard C. Lyons. He's amazing. Wrote the book The DNA of Democracy, among a couple others. And we'll get the true story of Thanksgiving from him tomorrow. Hope to see you there. Spread the word.