We Talk Back: Peri Who? feat. Dr. Kelly Elmore

I ain't too much this weekend for real. I really just relaxed and chilled.

spots in Charlotte. I still love Crave. Yes, just consistent, yeah, consistent quality. And I had like a little hookah little cocktail and uh, carrot cake cupcake. Yes, and that was it.

bread pudding. And they have a very very very very good bread pudding. If they still have it on the menu, you should try it next time.

her and observe her reaction. He suggested that loyalty in the aftermath of infidelity proves devotion that is disgusting. And I think a lot of us, a lot of women, and I have really been thinking, like, you know, if you you go through some shit in and stay stated down ass woman like, he's gonna choose you type mentality. Absolutely not. I ain't never been a dumb bitch in that way. I definitely have dealt with infidelity and relationships

only really because it's just human nature. Like, but I don't recognize now I don't have to.

men already think. Right, he's just saying the things out loud because I really I remember when I broke up with my ex most recently, like leading up to it, he was like, we ain't supposed to break up, Like he mentioned his other friends right, and how they went through all these things and she stayed like I've already went through things and stayed I don't feel like going through anything else. Nigga, you putting me out? Are you dumb? She's dumb.

think I can't do better. I can do comparable to you or greater every.

He even emailed the police saying his muck shot was terrible and offered a better photo of himself wearing sunglasses in the car. Police think for being helpful, but reminded him to rather see him in person to discuss his charges. History quickly with viral proven that crime and vanity don't mix well.

to DeBow women's spaces. And again from last week, a Tiss, she's a she's a lesbian woman, right, So the transider person, yeah, it happened in Los Angeles bathroom. Now being convicted of so his now ex wife while living in Ohio as a man before taking the victim's name as their own.

I mean it like that, you know, Like, so how do you say, like, this person isn't trends or how you say this person isn't like how do you determine that? I don't even know.

Women are not out here trying to vie. I feel like that man just wants to see women naked and he's doing it under the guise of being transgendered.

to be a real woman? And you know, and they are the main ones that are so upset and at arms about men who can live freely, gay men, transgendered, transen transgendered women who are out right don't give a fuck with no nobody thinks about it. It's the d L men that are dangerous. Those are the dangerous ones. Okay, angry hold, let me add this on it, y'all. I'm sorry. I've seen this postal Instagram. This girl she was like, uh, somebody said that if your man farn a lot, he

might be del and I had to think. I had to think back, Okay, big girl, bye, No, because the bitches in the comments, listen, what's up with your what's up with your gut?

and Tammy are not going through. Yeah, y'all, aren't we all?

you got into becoming a doctor. Like your background. Well, I tell people all the time I was called to the pool pit of medicine. First, I want to say thank you both for having me on your wonderful show. I was gone to the pool pit of medicine very early. I didn't have doctors in my immediate family. As a matter of fact, I was the first one to go and complete college, so you know, everything after that, I

was the first for that as well. But when I was a little girl, I you know, something told me in my spirit that I wanted to be a physician. And then one day I was watching KPBS. I think I might have been nine or ten years old, and they were showing the first laparoscopic hiss directed me. My mom walked through the door, like, what are you watching? Because if you can imagine a woman is like in a certain position having the surgery.

So I decided that I wanted to, you know, be the safe place for women, especially because I have a history of domestic violence in my family, that I wanted to be that safe place for women to express what's going on not just with their bodies, but also spiritually, physically, financially, mental, them emotionally, so when you come to me, we having

a full conversation. Right, Well, it's not like you a servant of the Lord, because goodness, all right, I have a question, all right, what's one myth about menopause you wish women would stop believing one myth about menopause? Well, this is an interesting question because right now they're actually changing the FDA black box warning on hormone replacement therapy.

So a lot of people thought that they could not utilize hormone replacement for the last twenty years due to an article that came out or a study that came out that told them, you know, it's going to kill them. They're going to get more breast cancer, cardiovascular disease, all that other stuff. So the myth is that more women wo men are able to utilize supplements and or hormone replacement therapy medications in order to help them navigate perimenopause

and menopause. So are for someone who like me, who's like so far away from all of this perimenopause, can you explain to me and our listeners what exactly is menopause and perimenopause? Like, what is it? Because when I love to start where so it's a change, right, and I will tell you that if you live past the A up to the age of sixty, you are going to go through the change. Just like when you were born, you went through adolescence, puberty, you're going through the change.

So perimenopause menopause is the change of our hormones. And I like to start with menopause because it's just like more of a definitive space before I get the definition of perimenopause. So menopause is when our hormone levels estrogen progesterone dropped to such significant lows that we no longer

have a periods, so we're not menstruating for twelve months. However, there's more than fifty different symptoms that are associated with having the drop in your estrogen progesterone and your tsosterone. So menopause officially is twelve months without your period or cycle, and then after that is what people call postmenopause. But I also like to say one myth to people, menopause lasts for your the rest of your life. That's the that is the area you are in in your life

for the rest of your life. Once you stop having your periods, you're in menopause. See I used to think is like when you stop liking men men, know, pause pause on these men because of you know, so.

call the perimenopause. So prior to you going through menopause, which means you're not having periods anymore, the perimenopause is that time before, and that time before can be anywhere from five to ten years prior to your actual menopause. Most people go through like the stage change that one year between the ages of forty eight and fifty two, right, but that time before that, that is that perimenopausal time.

And you know, a lot of people think about fertility right, So their reproductive time, so that perimenopause you can still get pregnant. Your hormones are just like doing this. Yeah, so your hormones are doing this. And it's just like I tell people, the way we start is the way we end. So if you had puberty, if you remember puberty, that's what mental pause is like as well. So that's why I've never had a ZiT in my fucking life. Excuse my French, but all of a sudden I got

zits on my jawline. Is that a symptom of perry? Perhaps? Yep? Face So estrogen? So estrogen, the decrease in estrogen, progesterone, testosterone. Right, Remember I told you there's fifty different symptoms or more that people can have. Now, Estrogen is in the in every part of our body, our skin, our hair, are you know, our our brains, our heart, everywhere is estrogen. Okay,

So when you're starting to see things start happening. And then also depending on what you're doing for your nutrition, and I recommend people to eat what we call the Viva life five fruits, vegetables, nuts, rains, beans, drinking our water and if you eat meat that make sure it's you know, high quality, as clean as possible. But if you're if you are eating outside of those things, you're going to see your body respond even more to having

this decrease in estrogen. So that is what is going around. Your hormone levels are dropping and you are starting to see the our bodies respond, our tissues respond, our organs respond to that. Should we be taken like estrogen? Sorry,

So it is that is a very personal conversation. So every single person should have that conversation with their provider because we have to think about what's your family history, what's your personal history, and there are certain things that if you are active, like if you have active breast cancer, no, we're not going to give you hormone replacement, right, we may and sometimes we can do something local to the vagina, but that's one of those things we have to have

that conversation about. If you have excessive i mean, excuse me, uncontrolled hypertension, we have to have a conversation about that because the cardiovascular risk could increase depending on what your cardiovascular risks are. So it's not that it's a complete no, but we have to have a conversation with you about your personal history. In order to recommend. Now, hold on, you said you could do something to the vagina, what is it? Tighten it, make it more wet, like what

is it for? Shop for shop?

We also can use vaginal estrogen locally so that you can continue to keep that area like I said healthy and moist because besides getting the itchy, scratchy vagina, as long as you don't have any inflammation or infection associated with it, you can also have what we call urinary tract effect what seems like to be urinary tract infections, and what we call that is the genital urinary syndrome

or symptoms of menopause perimenopause. And that's because those estrogen levels are so low and it's dry, and now you're getting all of these symptoms associated that seem like urinary attract infections but may or may not be.

services level. Now, we have some really powerful obgu I N eurogynecology advocates that are there in Congress and making sure these things are moving forward. So we have you know, we have we have different opportunities for different people, so you know it's not just a one stop shot hormone replacementary therapy. When we talk about estrogen replacement, that is definitely the the therapy that is going to help you

with your hot flashes. That's like the gold standard to help prevent the hot flashes, which is what most people hear about. But then there are other opportunities for us as well if you don't want to use estrogen based or progesterone based products.

I'm still I'm still youthful. I can still get pregnant, pop that couch. I can do all things, okay, But how do you know when everybody like, I don't know when my mom would have went through menopause, especially now you're saying like when menopause starts, it doesn't stop, like that's just the rest of your life is menopause. Right now, I don't know the difference between PMS and or menopause with these old ladies.

But I never put anything past the higher power. We still need to prevent STDs. So gotneria chamitia herpe' heppatitus HIV. So because people are living longer, stronger, and thriving past their fifties, we still need to reprevent all of that.

people about that. Now, sometimes when you remove the uterus, some of the blood flow that would be going to the ovaries decreases, so people can see the changes. Like I said, you can have some minstrul excuse me, you can have some perimenopause symptoms that seem to come on maybe not faster, but because you have decreased blood flow, you're getting those types those same type of symptoms. It's more when that estrogen level is gone. So if you

have your ovaries removed, then yes, no longer are you. Yes, you are in medical or surgical menopause right then and there. So you can have surgical menopause, meaning that I took out your ovaries or decreased the significant flow to your ovaries. You can have medical menopause, which means I gave you medication to stop the function of your ovaries. Or you can have what a quote unquote natural menopause, where you've

just matured and aged into menopause. And that is a questions because so many people are like, welly have my uterers taken out? I don't know if I'm gone through menopause. If you listen to your body, you will absolutely know when you stop cycling. But we have to be in tune with our bodies. And that's why I teach a lot about mindset and knowing yourself from the inside out.

I had a friend she was fighting breast cancer, and she said that she was going into early menopause because of the medicine is that this happened from chemotherapy will send you into early menopause. So that's what we call medical menopause. So yes, you can you can actually end up starting to have the symptoms. You can fully go into menopause, or you can go into a state of you know, stopping where those medications are stopping the hormones

from functioning that they normally do. And that's the whole purpose, especially when you have an estrogen or progesterone positive breast cancer. So you can either be paused or you can actually fully go into the menopause. And everybody is a little bit different how they respond to those therapies and medications.

they're just gonna do for you. You gotta pay for that, right like, because well, no, that that a lot of times is a part of your therapy, and they should be having the conversation with women in regards to how do I protect my ovaries, how do I continue to maintain my fertility? And also and then I'm thinking you're talking about potentially egg harvesting, so when I harvest my eggs so that I can save them so that I can use them for later, either in my uterus or

womb or somebody else's. And that brings me to my next question. Does stress play a part in how quickly your body goes into the change? Absolutely?

way that other people age. But I will tell you if you are smoking, and if you are you know, significantly, if you're OBEs, significantly overweight, if you are not managing your cardiovascular health diabetes, it doesn't matter. You know, if you're not doing those things, you're gonna look older than

you should. Amen to that. That's what I was going to ask, like, when you how does fitness like, how should we change our fitness when we're going to pair mini pause, because I assume our metabolisms and things like that are affected by this as well. So you're absolutely

so it's slow. Your menabolisms are slowing down. And so what I tell people is encourage young people already to exercise whatever that is if it's dancing, dancing, zooma and whatever it is, pilates, running, hiking, biking, getting out there and walking. Make sure you're doing that so young, if you're young, put your kids in some type of sports and make them do it. As you mature, continue doing that. Find your community so that you can enjoy exercise. We

should be enjoying. We should be exercising five or six times a week, if not seven, right, even if the seventh day is going for a walk, but we should be exercise and enjoying that. So and then as you are, as you are aging, right, you should be increasing your strength exercises. So that is why you know, even doing resistance bans is so important. So adding weights you don't have to add, you know, significantly heavy weights. You don't have to lift one hundred, two hundred pounds. You don't

have to do that. You can lift twenty thirty pounds. You can lift your own body weight. I mean, you know you weigh one hundred and twenty one hundred and sixty pounds or more.

sounds funny, right, So I don't know. My mom watched jacqu.

that other stuff. No, I schedule it. So one of the things my family knows is the first hour of the day is mine. That's where I meditate, journal and get my exercise in, and then for the rest of the day, I'm optimizing my nutrition, my hormones in my

sleep and I get my sleep. And so you're talking to an obgyn who used to, you know, do thirty six hourships and still got her work out in because it just makes you feel better mentally and emotionally, and of course it's going to help the physical aspects your heart health, prevent diabetes, prevent significant weight gain, all of that. Yeah.

lifestyle change is what I struggle with. That is that my kryptonite. So I don't I tell me understand. And that's one thing that we have just incorporated in my life, you know, Like I said, it's on my calendar, and

don't mess with me. And even if I can't get like a hard workout in, I'm going to do something, even you know, walking something to get my mind going like right now, I don't feel like going to the gym, but I'm out there every morning and I'm walking two and a half miles and I'm going uphills and I'm using the resistance bands, doing the push ups in the setups. Excuse me, m all, I'm gonna go in a little while, I think today.

but I'm gonna go just because you said that. And let me ask you this, I never like, I never heard of Peri menopause. I heard of menopause growing up, but Perry menopause was never a thing.

You know, you grow up and they tell you're going to have your period and they tell you don't get pregnant, right, but they don't tell you anything between that or about that. When I was going through my OBGUI N training, we got the graphs that said this is what happens with estrogen, progesterone, testosterone. I will be honest with you, it's not until you hit the different stages that you're like, oh, this is

what they were talking about. So the reason why you feel like it hasn't been talked about is number one, they stopped talking about it, especially after that whole Women's Health Initiative, because they didn't want people to be on horrimal replacement. Right. The other thing is it's coming up. You're going into the time of your life where other people are going into the time of their life where they're starting to feel these things, so you're more interested in it.

people get palpitations anxiety associated with perimenopause menopause. The other thing is people will notice that their weight changes, So they start getting what we call the mino belly or that mid that midriff weight game, that the what do they call it, the upha, the punfa, whatever it's called. But you know, yeah, so the muffin tops. So you start getting that and people are like, wait a second,

what's going on with that? And so we have to make sure are you having a gastrulinetestinal problem that's going along with that? Is this friboids that's potentially going on? So going back to the head to toe exam is very important. And what I've noticed in mere cards, we've gotten away from examining people so that we can make a differential diagnosis means what could this be and what

more likely is this? People also start having joint pains and so they're like, uncle Arthur is here right, So they think they have our ritis, but it's actually inflammation because the estrogen actually moisturizes our joints, helps moisturize that. So you know, those are some of the symptoms besides the hot slashes, vaginal dryness, mood swings. Mood swings are huge. But we have to figure out is this depression, you know, is it truly depression? Do you have a bipolar exacerbation

exacerbation or is this associated with perimenopause or menopause? So those are so so okay.

figure out what word you're supposed to say. So then some people are thinking they're going through Alzheimu's or yeah. So yeah, I'd be feeling like that sometimes.

So if you stop having your period going on, Yeah, if you stop your period for twelve months and all of a sudden you start having you know, bleeding, spotting or anything like that. Then that needs to be evaluated because it could be a form of cancer. It could be and it could be you know that depending on where you are, you can have significant stress that trigger something.

You have this quartisole response you're you know, and then you unfortunately start having bleeding, especially in women in fibroids. I've seen that happen to them where they have the fibroids, and even though in menopause they should be shrinking, but you're having some significant stressors going on and for some reason you've triggered your hormonal milieu and it actually calls

you to bleed. But even in that instance, I still make sure I'm ruling out intimutual cancer do women, because I feel like black women get fibroids more than our you know, counterparts. And does that affect like how quick you go into perry in menopause when you have fibroids, So fibroids doesn't affect that. However, your hormonal changes will affect the fibroids. So that's why you see women having

you know, growth of the fibroids. That's why you also see them having these heavy, unbearable periods associated with fibroids. So that is all the fibroids are hormonally impacted. So that's why you see some of the changes that are going on. I wouldn't say that having fibroids puts you into perimenopause faster. Remember that is very much based on your brain hormones and your ovaries and that communication between both. Why do you think that black women get fibroids more

than other people? Yeah? So, you know what, I'll be honest with you. Part of that is the stressors that we are taking on because you know, estrogen doesn't just live in our ovaries, it lives in the adipost tissue as well. Okay, Cortisol responses from stressors, what we're eating, what our environments are, and then what our genetic history is. Oh and for example, my family, they all have many people in my family have had fibroids. I've never had fibroids.

I actually get my ultrasound done to make sure that they check for fibroids. But I've also been on progesterone for almost my entire life through my IUD. I also like I said, practice the Viva Life five for my entire almost my entire life, even before I named what it was. That's what I do, and so minimize that stress, making sure environmentally that I am, you know, not in environments that could probably trigger the hormonal responses or growth as well as what I'm eating. So food is your

medicine as well. Do you use sizing salt? Do you use season of salt? Because I just cavery lawry is what's giving us fibroids, y'all stop you. So do I use season in salt sparingly? I would say yes, I do loud. You know I grew up I'm flowers too, but I use it very sparingly. So if you come eat it at my house, you may feel like the food might be a little bit more bland than you used to. But that being said, you know, I don't have hypertension, I don't have diabetes, I'm not overweight, and

I'm doing this intentionally. So it's really important to when you're seasoning your food to make sure that we're minimizing the sovium that's attached to it. I swear y'all over the years, my mama's food is still good but it tastes more like white people food because she don't use salt like that no more. She don't well fry no more, she don't. Everything is changing. But I mean, you know, I'm adopting that a little bit. Okay, yeah, So, I mean just taking out fried foods right will make such

a big difference. And what I tell people is if you do it more than ninety percent of the time. My colleague says eighty percent of the time. But if you eat, you know, on that clean eating more than ninety percent of the time or even eighty five percent of the time, you're going to be so much better off than most people in America. Agent five. Yeah, what is Viva life five? You've meant life now, So v

class stamps for live. Viva means live life. And what we're trying to do is help people live their healthiest and wealthiest life spiritually. Spiritually exactlycates from women getting money. Okay, oh yeah, say we leave no bags on the table, okay, So spiritually, physically, financially, mentally, and emotionally, and essentially what this entails is you get myself and my fellow consultants

to help you through webinars podcasts, affirmation rooms. So that's the mindfulness pa, journaling, meditating and incorporating that exercise, hormone nutrition, and making sure that you sleep. So it's a community that we've created in order for you to do five things pretty much every day and eat those five foods fruits, vegetables, nuts, grains, things, drinking our water. And if you eat meat, make sure it's clean and high quality. Do you eat meat? I do eat meat. I make sure I try to make

sure it's clean, the high quality. Now that might be the ten percent that I'm not doing correct all the time, but yeah, I try to make sure that we're eating high quality or minimizing it. You know what I'm saying. I don't eat meat every single day. Do you eat pork at all? I do. I went through the whole phase of not eating pork at all, and I did. I went through the whole you know, like it was.

It was funny, it was. I went to I went to college, right, I went to Xavier University in New Orleans, Bblisiana. I went to HBCU and I was like, I'm not I'm not gonna eat meat.

You know, people say one or two drinks a day, and I'm like that seems like a lot, But I would say minimize it to like one or two drinks a week would be better. And if you're noticing that you're needing to drink every single day, then we'll probably need to talk about whether or not there's some alcoholism tendencies that are going on in your life. But that will alcohol will exacerbate all the symptoms for a lot

of people. As I get older, I find that I used to have fun, a lot of fun with alcohol, but as I get older, I just feel like it makes me sick. I don't feel good anymore when I drink it. I don't. It takes me like three days to get better after just having two or three drinks. So does that have something to do with our bodies changing too, like I can't liquor the same? Yep, absolutely absolutely.

And then the thing is, you know, a little bit of red wine is okay, right, not the whole bottle and not the glass that fills up with the whole bottle.

You're getting out of parameters. So if my if my legs, my thighs start like touching each other a little bit, I'm like, I'm out of parameters, so i run out live. My guys have never not touched like I've touched it. I might just see you know well you and you

just got to know. I can tell when I gain five PM, like I know when i'm I know my exact weight because I understand my body and like you said, you travel a lot, so we retain a lot of water and there's some retention there, right, so it takes a good forty five days to get that water just to get that water weight off, and you have to be very intentional about that, so you know, hydrating sometimes a little apple sided vinegar. Sometimes I'll do a little

bit of castoil, olive oil. You know, just to make sure that I'm keeping my gud clean healthy is really important, So I do, heir, and I what made me bring this conversation too, like want to have this conversation is so my clients are aging with me, and a lot of them are in their late thirties, early forties to fifties. I don't have that many twenty somethings anymore. I have some,

but not that many. And I kept hearing the conversation about perimenopause perimenopause, and I had one of my clients particularly say that she was concerned because her vagina is dry now. She's like, I don't know, Like I used to be pouring a glass of water out of me, and now it's like a Sahara desert, like it's tumbleweed's rolling by when I pulled my kuchie out. Is there something that people could write? Is it wild wild watts? Is there something because women can do or eat? She's like,

I'm drinking water, I drink hell of water. I'm eating fruit. Is there something that we could do or something that women can take to make sure that their vagina they keep it their wetness as long as possible when they're

going through these changes. Yeah, so I will say always green leafy vegetables are very important, right, So making sure that you're keeping your vitamin D, your iron levels up as well as they're going to have what we call adaptogens and nutrients that are going to help you keep that collagen sometimes some vital estrogens and things like that.

But then also she can utilize basic things some olive oil, a little bit of olive oil, daba olive oil or coconut oil in the area and the vaginal area could be very helpful. There's also products that kind of like there's a product call raplens, but essentially that is a lubricant she can use. But I'll be honest with you, estrogen based products are like the best thing that you can use. If you're okay with using estrogen, place it in your vagina, small amount in your vagina a couple

times a week, and it will help you significantly. Important thing though, if you're finding that you're using estrogen, especially you're taking it by mouth or you have it on a patch, or you're even using it in your vagina like every single day, then we need to talk about if you still have a uterus using the progesterone as well, because we want to protect against that individual cancer that we talked about. Mm. Yeah, I started taking Maca. You

take maca? Yes? Good? Yeah? Oh absolutely helps with the libido. Yes, ma'am. Yes, Ostragonda maca what people, let's.

And finnagreek is another plant based supplement that you can use to help you moisturize, right, and it helps you produce milk, so that that's another type of thing that milk fits sole finigreed though, So though, there's if you work with an integrated specialist or a natural path they'll be able to give you more options in regards to more plant based therapies rather than just you know, estrogen is the only thing you can use.

you know. I was just at the doctor recently and I told her I do black seed oil for my blood pressure, and you know, she immediately went into, well, you know, the studies and all this other you know, trying to deter you from doing more alternatives. So that is that what you lean more towards as opposed to like traditional medicine.

it's really important, and I'll be honest with you. In traditional medicine, they don't teach this portion of supplements plant based medications or therapies, So which had come in that y'all the real year. So that's why it's important. Like I was saying, you know, look behind the name and say, are you a functional medicine physician? Have you gotten your naturopathic training, whether it's a certification or your actual natural pactic doctor? And how do you put both of those

things together? What are my alternatives besides using what I can get from former pharmacy. So give me non pharmacy and pharmacy associated therapies that can be useful for me. I believe in acupuncture, chiropractic work, like I've done all these things, so I absolutely know that I don't have to be in pain. Excuse me, I don't have to take pain medications to resolve my pain. There's other options for it as well. The pain, not my pain, the.

you gotta be careful taking certain things like maca. Right, you take maca, you go, you might elevate or take it like it helps men's libido. Jim, Yeah, absolutely, So I'm going through I shouldn't take no moca right now because I might just have to be chandelier if I take some of that shit. I feel like, yeah, you have to be careful. You have to be careful about it.

And so that's why having that personal line conversation and say, Okay, what symptoms are you experiencing and what do what do you want to temper or what do you want to improve? I think the biggest thing about you know, anything that you decide to take you should be taking it because it's supplementing what is going on in your body. So, like you said, you might not need maca root, but you might need something to help you with stress or calm me down. So you know that's something, and that's

a different opportunity for you. I will say, somebody asked me, do I have to take hormone replacement therapy estrogen replacement therapy progesterone if you still be uterus? And I will say that the number one killer of women, especially black women's cardiovascular disease point blank, hypertension, stroke, arrhythmius. Right, And so what has been found is that the estrogen the replacement is reducing the cardiovascular disease. Now, you got to

do all the other things too. So if you so choose not to take the replacement, then you got you really got to do all the other things when we talk about the stress reduction, the exercise, the nutrition, and the sleeps, and we really need to get our sleep, ladies. I mean, there is nothing wrong with sleeping.

everybody was talking about. I didn't get all of that. But Babe, when I turned forty, it was on the topic. It's crazy. It feels like I'm crazy right now. It's great, it's wonderful. And bursic got me going so crazy right now.

a certain part. But you know you're going to feel you know, more loving and accepting at some part in your cycle, and other times you'd be like, get off of me, you know, I don't want to be bothered. So it's really important to understand that and see how many times you are feeling that through the day, because then you can start tracking your perimenopausal symptoms into menopause.

What conversation should mothers and daughters be having about menopause that most of us aren't all of this because you know your children are going to experience your menopause, probably they're going to notice something that's changing faster than you notice the change in yourself. So having these conversations with your boys and girls or however they identify, and making sure that you're having these conversations to say, you know, this is the menstrual cycle, this is menc's, this is

what happens when you're in your twenties to thirties. Is what happens in your thirties and forties, forties and fifties beyond. But in order to have those conversations, we need to be educated about those conversations, which is why I love coming on podcasts. This is why I love having corporate sessions. So we provide six corporate sessions to corporations organizations to improve women health in their organization, and then we do the individual discussions as well.

on the top five diseases that are happening. We're educating them so that they have a health plan. Well, what do I talk to my physician or practitioner about so that I can actually get the benefit out of this healthcare plan instead of just like paying this, you know, one hundred to one thousand dollars two thousand dollars a month.

already been doing already know. So it's it's just one of those things. It has been out for thirty years. Yeah, So it's just one of those things like either you get ahead of it or it gets ahead of you. Either you are the food or you become the farmer. So just decide where you want to be with.

to figure out genetically what's going on. But have these conversations. Do not be afraid of the change, and reach out to your subject matter experts that you know, that's what we do. We trained in this, and those subject matter experts don't have to be you know, older. Everybody you know older doesn't know. Everybody that says O, B G, I N actually doesn't know. But make sure you find out those resources that you can really get that that

conversation that is specific towards you. Do not be afraid of this. It can be the best time of your life as well and period.

I told you a little bit about it. So we're gonna have a break, and when we come back, I want you to share a story with us. All right, guys, we are back, and doctor Kelly has her story. Go ahead, alrighty, So when you first told me this, I was like, I mean, I ain't never been a right, right no virgo. I almost got to ask that, what's your son? I'm a virgo born on set. Some reports the damn story tell a lie? Are you pimp in your whole life? Virgoals are? I was like, yeah, never got played a virgo.

I'm dressed, ready, the whole thing. I'm looking out the window, you know, wait for him to call to say he was downstairs so I can come out my dorm room. And the call never came, and I was like, what just happened? And so maybe a thirty six hours later, I get a phone call like, oh hey, you know, you know, some things came up. And I was like, I was like, is your mom said right just passed away? Did you get in a car accident? And he was like no, noa NOA. I was like okay, and he's like,

so when you want me to pick you up? I was like never click. So that was my that was my story. And I got stood up for a date and that never happened again. I just needed to make sure that you know, he wasn't dead somewhere, his mama didn't die, because if he told me that, I might have you know my name. So you never ever got you never even found out why he missed the date. You ain't care why virgos, These virgos boys.

I'm a doctor, I'm in then I was in the Navy for twenty six years. I was like, yeah, y'all not getting me.

that other stuff. Naboo, I need to see your financials, your tax reports. I need to see like open them books everything, open the books. So that would be another another dB story. A DVS. We are you dating that person? No, No, we just have been friends for like over twenty years. Yeah, you don't count.