Tickle Fight (Lucas Brothers interview)

be big time. At La and Charlomagne the Guy the breakfast club bitches take good morning Usa yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo. Good morning Angela, yee, good money. Charlomagne the Guy, Peace to the planet. Guess what day it is? Guess what day it is? Yes, it's Wednesday. It's hump dam mid a little week. Good morning, what's happening? Good morning till you? What happened to Atime? Man? Good morning to Atime anytimes

telling the screets We spoke about that. Remember the movie he just did, Oh he did a movie and everything. I talked about it on the air and then he hit us up like I didn't know he did a movie. Okay, all right, slu the atime Man, I was riding in this morning and listening to that Miguel four pack. Okay, that a dealer cheek dropped on a clue what's it called. What's that word called, cheek cheek? Yeah? Yeah, man dropped on a clue bomb for Miguel Man. I love Miguel Man.

Miguel is incredible. And then you know, your your your your title playlist just goes down, you know, random songs that they started playing all type R and B records, So they started playing old Miguel, like how many Drinks in the Dawn. They didn't play Chris Brown Back to Sleep. Then it hit me with Ari Lennox and Queen Nager. Then he came with Beyonce Drunken Love, So you hold Me this morning? That sounds like I'm not hardy. I

feel good. Okay, I feel good. Okay, that's when R and B dust to It makes you feel good and I feel you know, I never mind, but no. We were having a debate on the Brilliant of his podcast about Rihanna versus Beyonce and a versus twenty songs, twenty songs. I think Beyonce got it. Yeah, I said Rihanna at first, but I didn't say it with much confidence. But yeah, you can't bet against Queen Bee, you know. I mean,

I'm a picket smith when free knows called it. But you know, when you start handing the drunken loves and the loves on top, like Rihanna got fourteen number ones, I think she got the fourth most number ones ever. But Beyonce got a lot of cultural smashes. Absolutely so does Rito. But I don't know if it's it's it's as much as Beyonce. Beyonce going to Destiny's Child catalog, she would probably have to, yeah, I mean not she

wouldn't have to, but she probably would. She did. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you know, but I'm fresh off jumping out the car listening to the surfboards though, So that's you know, prison at the moment, right. You know that drunken Love that I used to Man, I used to play drunken Love so much up here. I used to come here every day listening to drunk and Love. And we used to be in his surfboard. Don't lie in me and being our old board easy marine this morning? Have you

got nothing to do it? But so I really got to do it? Butts up here, Jesus Christ, My goodness, now front page news. What we're talking about. But let's talk about this Johnson and Johnson vaccine. They have paused the use of that vaccine over blood clock concerns. And Hallom they paused Johnson's all the time for man, says Johnson and Hallom. They paused it all the time. Okay, all right, well this is for you, Bay ahead, drop a clue, Bob, goddamnit. That's what I'm talking about. That's

how you start the morning. Our beautiful body is grinding up in our club, my goodness, drunk and lie we be yall night? Hey? You done? Hey? First of all, nobody liked it like that. Okay, let me know when you're done. I need you to be into it too. I need you to be into it too like you guys at Okay, I need to MENTI missy back, what's wrong? No,

I'm in drinking man. When we start, well, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in the US Food and Drug Administration are recommending that the US paused the use of Johnson and Johnson's COVID nineteen vaccine. They said they were six reported US cases of a rare and severe type of blood clot. One person is currently critical condition. Another woman died. The six reported cases were, among them, more than six point eight million doses of the Johnson

and Johnson vaccine. Now, what if you've got that vaccine? Should you be concerned? Here's what doctor fault he has to say. It appears that this adverse event occurs within between six days and thirteen days. So if you're beyond four weeks and you've had it a month or two ago, I think you really don't need to worry about anything. If you are in the timeframe of within a week or two of having gotten vaccinated, this is a very

rare event. It's less than one in a million. Shod that you still want to be alert to some symptoms such as severe headache, some difficulty in movements, or some chest discomfort and difficulty breathing. But like they said, one in one million. Believe that. Stop listening to them. Yeah, I mean, for from six people, you think they'll pause.

The whole exactly is that any of those symptoms like he aches, abdominal pain, leg pain, shortness of breath within three weeks after vaccination, then please contact your healthcare provider. According to the statement that has been put out now, as far as the effects on women, it feels like it could be something how like birth control pills are related. Is that hormonal? Here's where doctor faults. He had to say, these are women of child bearing age. Does this suggest

that could be hormonal? Absolutely, and that's one of the things that we want to investigate. There have been similar types of phenomena that have occurred during pregnancy. Clotting abnimaladies are known in women who take birth control pills, So certainly there could be a hormonal aspect to this. Hey man, I'm going back to what all the doctors told me last party. All told me just wait at least a year if you can. They said, when that first batchet of vaccines come out, you know, don't be in a

rush to go get them. This is what doctors told me. Doctors who that I use, not just black doctors, he's the white doctors. Has occurred among women? Cases occurred, kay? You All six of these cases occurred among women between the ages of eighteen and forty eight, and symptoms did occur six to thirteen days after vaccination. Now, you guys brought up vaccine hesitation. Here is what doctor Fauci has to say about that. Will this fuel vaccine hesitancy? Well,

certainly that is a concern. The question that is often asked, does this have anything to do with the other vaccines, the MR and as from MODERNA and from Faiser. You know, absolutely not. There's no negative or adverse or red flag signal coming from any of those vaccines, which is very good news. In other words, they are very safe. What I don't understand is what all these vaccines out there. Shouldn't they pretty much have the same thing in them

because they fight in the same thing. Shouldn't it I don't know. Ask doctor Faulchi, since you believe in him so much. I mean, I don't I believe in the doctors. And what the doctors? You have a doctor or my doctors. My doctors took the vaccine. I took the vaccine, My parents took the vaccine, my wife took the vaccine, my daughter took the vaccine. Were all all right, you know what I mean? But you don't know the long term impact,

you know. The CDC. The CDC is examining the case of a woman who died after getting the Johnson and Johnson vaccine in Virginia. She was forty five, forty five years old. But we don't know the long effects of actually getting COVID either. So it's it's you do it, if you do it. That's true. But I know one thing. You can't recall the vaccine after it's in your body. I know that much, Okay, but I don't. I don't think it lasts. I think it lasts up to a year.

But the vaccine, Yeah, so you gotta get it again every years, just like the flu shot. I don't get that either. All right, Well that is your front patents. Haven't haven't gotten that either, Okay, all right, awkward, get it off your chest? Eight play some more and b man, I need him more. Hype man. That Chris Brown back to sleep on for the screech one time. But that Chris Brown play that. Don't play with him looking at

me when you play that record. Man allays talk to Johnson's Where Johnson's Johnson one five one, this guy's horn to get it off your chests. As the breakfast logal morning the breakfast club. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're man from you on the breakfast club, but you got something on your mind, Hey, good morning, get it off your chests. Um. So I work in the r I'm not a nurse nor a doctor. I'm this registration, but I work in the yard. So

my opinion with the vaccine. UM, when people get to vaccine is, of course we all know that they are not approved by the FDA nor Medicare. I saw that. That means people are I saw that. I was wondering from people are getting these vaccines. Later on down the line in shurance company is going to ask you did you ever get to the vaccine? And that's gonna give you fikey situations. The Medicare or adventurance companies are going to decide if they're going to increase your prove you

or not cover you. And that's the team of Medicare. Because all vaccines or medications have to be approved by FDA and Medicare. Well, let me ask you a question. I keep hearing people say that FDA didn't approve these vaccines, but it's that true because how can they How can they Paul, they didn't improve it. Well, it's an emergency maxine. So that's two different things. Emergency and approval is it's two different scenarios. Yeah, you approved the vaccines because they're

studies regarding it, like the flu shot. This years of studies, which is vaccine. It's just a study. So like say, for instance, when you get a sixty five years old medicare asked you certain questions like is the government take you for a research program for a vaccine or medication? Well you get that when you're sixty five. They should be asking that's that now and attaining us that now, but they're not technically. So technically this round of vaccines

is all a bunch of guinea pigs. But you know what it does sell? I looked at up right, I went on the own website, the FDA dot govern says the FDA has authorized three COVID nineteen vaccines for emergency use. Right, that's what she just said, that it's for it's for emergency use, but it's not. You can't use it still in age is twelve to fifte twelve to fifteen. But so I for emergency use, what does that mean? Because it's still approved. Right, it's an emergency. I don't know.

This is for the experts. That's exactly why I'm not taking that vaccine no time soon. Hello, who's this? This is key from Houston man. Let's bro get it off your chests. So it's two things I want to get off my chests. First of all, Houston, man, we got to get it together. We don't work together as an artist. We don't do anything together like we're supposed to. Houston. There's only one radio station. I'm not gonna say the name of the other one, but they being truth, Yes,

we know that the Box Artist the truth. Yeah, yeah, I think thank you for saying that. Charba Bain't, by the way, but Charlotta Magine. By the way, I wanted to bring something up because nine years ago you said something about mister s and uh later, you've been passing my butt cheeks. Man, I don't understand exactly what's going on, but I hate and you said mister free passing it out. You have been importingly, sir, I'm free. I've been free but cheeks. We've been passing out but cheeks. I have

not passed out my butt cheeks. You get a butt cheeks. Okay. I gave Envy a replica of some butt cheeks, but I haven't passed outline. You are the open for your brother. You'd be safe out there. Get it off. That's funny as how to say you to open one for your butt cheek because you just think of a big old Scott. It crazy. Eight hundred five ain't five one on five one. If you need to ben, hit this up now. It's the breakfast club Go morning, the breakfast clubs. We want

to hear from you on the breakfasts. Hello. Who's this Joe? This is Jamill calling from North Carolina. What's up, bro? Get off your chess, hey man. I just wanted to spread a little bit of positivity this morning. That's all. What you got, What you got. I'm blessed back in holly sleep. As my uncle Charla would always say, there you go. All right. I want to thank God for my life helping songs. I'm doing well today. I can't

complain at all. My family's doing okay, okay, And I just want to say that I'm praying for this country during this pandemic. The people have lost their lives to COVID. The people that have lost their lives, the police brutality, the people that have lost their lives to the match shootings that have been going on these last couple of months, and this company, UM Country, needs a lot of healing and the company needs for our officials to step up and do what they need to do in order to

make things that ain't happening. You ain't even got Yeah when I see you and that one, Yeah, Rome has fallen, sir. Hello, who's this? Hi? This is Karma Karma from Atlanta. Hey, Karma, that's your real name. Yeah, that's my real name. Hey, I just wanted to get off my said, um Charlomagne. Um, you just really helped me. I just recently lost my dad and I recently lost um one of my little fur babies. And when we talked about when you talk about mental health, it just made me realize that I

actually have to take it into consideration. I suffer from anxiety, I already suffer from depression. And when I'm just hearing about you talk about how you were able to just sit down with sird therapists and just get it out to wait and how you feel so much better, I actually decided to just take the first step and I hear y'all talk about talk space so much, and I signed up, and um, I'm gonna try to suffer an the cry, but no cry, feel your feels, cry, let

it out. It's fine. I just want the same job, whichcause everything has I'm so difficult, and I'm trying to start my business. I just feel like I have been had and it's still I just want to thank you, thank you so much. Well, we're sending you a lot of healing energy this morning, a lot a lot of a lot of healing energy. Man, and and and understand that's what life is about, you know. I always say I don't feel like there's any any anything is so

a good experience or a bad experience. Just one long process. That's all. Life is one long process. But you I promise you you will be fine when it's all setting done. And well, just one more thing, Um, y'all are the best. Just keep doing on what y'all doing. And I'm all twenty three and y'all are in fun a single day. So I love you too so much, thank you very much. Wow, thank you. She's twenty three. I mean she's been on she's been we've been on the radio since she was

thirteen thirteen years old. That's right, Lord, have mercy, get it off your chests. Eight hundred five eight five, one oh five one. If you need to vent, you can hit us up at any time. We got rooms on the way. Yes, And let's talk about Bobby Brown. He is on the Red Table talk. The episode comes out today. I'm gonna tell you what the topic of discussion is. All right, we'll get into that. NeXT's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy,

Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Now next hour, the Lucas Brothers will be joining us. Lucas Brothers. They are wrote um Judas in The Blacks, co wrote and co producer Very to the Black Masside. They're twins. They're comedians. They wrote a bunch of things. They have a special on Netflix. Yeah, two talented individuals. I first met them back in the day when they were writing for Friends of the People. All right, well, we'll talk to them next hour. But let's get to

the rumors. Let's talk Bobby Brown. It's about report Angela Yee, the Breakfast Club. You know, one thing people say a lot is how does Bobby Brown deal with everything he's had to deal with with all the tragedies and his family. Well, he's on the Red Table talking that episode is coming

out today. It's been five months since the unexpected death of his twenty eight year old son, Bobby Brown Junior, And in the upcoming episode, he's basically talking about addictions and controversies that have followed him for decades, the tragic death of his son, and who he thinks is responsible for the deaths of his ex wife, Whitney Houston, and his daughter Bobby Christina Brown as well. Here is the teaser. These kids today, they're trying different things. They're trying to

get as high as they can possibly get. That's a real problem because they don't know what these drugs are being mixed with these days. Right, There's been so many deaths, specifically with pentanel. There's murderers out there right now that are creating these these synthetic drugs that are killing these kids. It's like the committed to murder. Oh yeah, that's gonna be a sad one to watch it, but it is.

And the episode is entitled An Urgent Warning from Bobby Brown. Yeah, I stand on the fact that you know, the best messaging is just say no, and that right there is just another reason to just say no. Like they got GMO drugs. It's not the organic holistic drugs that we grew up on. Okay, trust me. Being able to go to you know, facilities in other countries and do organic,

pure drugs, that's a privilege. So I would encourage folks to you know, get help with their addiction as opposed to encouraging them to find safe spaces to do things that we know it's going to kill them here in America, just say no. But we also know addiction as a disease and we don't want to shame people who are struggling with addiction either. Something I just said, we should folks to get help with their addiction. That's what we

should do. We should put more money into the treatment, right, you know, but just saying no. That campaign has been around since before we were born, and clearly it's not working. So we got to make sure that there's all different. I'ven used to get people help to think. I mean, people are still using rugs to tell people don't use drugs. Continue saying don't. You can't say hey, use drugs, but just make sure that no, don't use drugs. People used to say, don't don't smoke weed. Now we we just

legalized it is. But it's still a lot of people who don't smoke Weedie, It's like it's a lot of people who don't do drugs, right, but now we just regulated right all right now, will killing anybody have y'all I've never heard of somebody old imagine if you don't know what it, ma'am man, but you're getting straight off the street, that's right. It refer to me as ma'am from now on, respectful. Thank you. Y'all have no understandming of nothing that goes on all right now? Will Smith, no, ma'am,

does it not like George's controversial new voting laws. And Will Smith and Antoine food Choi have pulled the production of their new movie Emancipation, And that's in response to those voting laws and voter suppression laws that are happening in Georgia. So they felt compelled to move their film production work from Georgia to another state. So they're the first company that has said, the first production that has

says they're not going to do something in Georgia. Because of this, as you know, there's been talk of protesting. They said, at this moment in time, the nation is coming to terms with its history and its attempting to eliminate vestiges of institutional racism to achieve true racial justice. We cannot in good conscience provide economic support to a government that enacts regressive voting laws that are designed to restrict voter access. So they're out of there all right now.

Because I know a lot of people that work on those movie sets, and even with the Baseball and Major League, I know a lot of people that work on the stadium or our community are black folks in minority. So the fact that they pull them from there, are we really hurting ourselves. I don't think those big brands really care. They got enough money to survive. But what's really hurting is the fact that we can't work on those movie sets.

We can't be runners, we can't do we can't be actors or actresses like that hurts us a lot more. I think, yeah, you can in another in another city, but just gonna be Atlanta people won't be Georgia people. I mean, if they moved to New Yorker to be New Yorker's work. It won't be Atlanta that needs it,

you know, I mean where it's mostly minorities in Alana. Yeah, I don't have any proof to back this up, but I do think it hurts us, you know, more than it hurts you know, white people, because there's a million other industries in Georgia. Film used to be the number two industry in Georgia. I don't know if it still is, but it's not like white folks are gonna gonna pull out it. So I feel like we are the ones who end up losing jobs and opportunities. But I don't know.

All right, now, let's talk about the French Prince of bel Laire. Bellaire is the new show, but it's not a reboot. During an exclusive interview with e news um all finds a Ribero describes a new series. He said it's in the reimagining of the original fresh Prince, and he said the new series will be a whole new look at the idea. He said, we sometimes there a lot of things into one word. One concept. That reboot would be taking the actual show and characters and bringing

it back. This is a totally different show, he said, for starters. It won't be a fun, loving family sitcom. Instead, it's a dramatize take on the story told in the iconic theme song from The Fresh Prince of bel Air. He said, it's based on the theme song. It's completely different. So is it a prequel? Is it when Will was living in Philly and he was getting in trouble which called him to be shipped to bell Air in the first place. Well, what he's saying is it's a whole

new show and it's based on the theme song. So I don't know. But it's a drama, so it's not even a comedy, and it's a whole different concept. Yeah, because in the theme song, he was living in West Philadelphia. He got into a fight with some people. His mom got scared and shipped them off, which is actually dope, right, because you would have to dig deeper, because I'm like, just because of a fight you got shipped off to bell Air. It had to be something really intense and

serious to ship them all the way across the country. Yeah, So it's basically his journey from the streets of West Philadelphia to the gated mansions of bel Air. With the reimagined vision. They said, it'll dive deeper into the inherent conflicts, emotions, and biases that were I supposed to fully explore in the thirty minute sitcom format. Ready for that, all right now? DMX, his versus challenger Snoop Dog, was actually on Fallon and he was talking about some of his memories of DMX.

He talked about meeting him back in nineteen ninety four, before most of the world even knew who DMX was. And here's some of the stories that he told on Fallon at a concert nineteen I think it was like ninety ninety four. And then we went back to the studio after that. He brought up a story that was so deep and instrumental to our relationship. He was like, when he first met me, I was like away from him and he was saying, what's that man, what's up?

And I was like, get at me Dog? And he was like, I took that and I made that into my song get at Me Dog, because the way you got at me and said that I was like that slip. So that night inspired him to create that song get at Me Dog, which was one of his biggest hood records that he put out. Now, of course, he told that story during versus, so maybe people didn't catch that story,

but always an interesting and good win. And thank god that versus did go down because we had a chance to see Dmax and Snoop together celebrating each other and with some good viral moments from that. Here's what he had to say about versus. It meant the world because it gave the world a chance to see two dogs that naturally loved each other celebrating each other in the name of hip hop. You've seen a lot of interaction between me and him, engaging in our songs. You've seen

a lot of conversations and a lot of love. And we had got in the building with us that night, and that makes me feel good about Dmax's transition, to know that he's off to a better place and he's finally got his Andrew Williams, Yeah, which is why I don't understand when people say Dmax didn't get love and

folks waited until he died to sew him love. Absolutely, positively, not he was getting loved before the verses, but the verses absolutely provided Earl Simmons with his flowers X always got love and he definitely always got love a pair absolutely and in Drink Champs. He did Drink Champs last this past February, and you know they definitely gave him his flowers on Drink Champs. So yes, X God, Yeah, DMX was an icon living Okay, So I don't think that I don't think that people didn't show him the

proper respect everything that he was going through. I do feel like people were super supportive and had a lot of left for DMX because he had a lot of love for people. All right, Well that is your room of report, all right. Now we got front page news. Next we were talking about, Well, let's talk about the police officer who shot and killed Dante right and has now resigned. Will tell you what her statement said and what else is going on? All right, we'll get into

that next. It's the Breakfast Club. Good Morning, So Breakfast Club, your morning's will never be the same. Mountain Dew his partnering with HBCUs and an effort to uplift the next generation of badass black innovatives and entrepreneurs with the Real Change Opportunity fun pitch competition, empowering students to go out and do is it? Mountain Dew dot com slash Real Change to enter Hey morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angelou Ye, Charlemagne guy. We are to breakfast club. Good morning. Let's

get in some front page news. Where we start you all right, Well, let's start with the officer who shot and killed Dante right and the Brooklyn Center police chief have both resigned. And this is in Minnesota. Police officer Kim Potter resigned from her position Tuesday after shooting and killing Dante Ray. We've been talking about this, you know. She was part of that police department for twenty six years, A twenty six year veteran. She submitted her resignation effective immediately.

Wrote a letter to city official. She said, I have loved every minute of being a police officer and serving this community to the best of my ability, but I believe it is in the best interest of the community, the department, and my fellow officers if I resigned immediately. The mayor said, we did not ask her to resign, that was a decision that she made, and they also said later in the evening that they had not yet

accepted her resignation. They said, we're still working through our own processes and making sure that we take the steps that are necessary to accept the resignation. Let's just say team is evaluating the current circumstances, which are very complex. I don't I don't get it. I need somebody way smarter than me to explain this to me. Can you just resign in the middle of what it's supposed to be an investigation? Resigned at anytime? But I'm wondering if

that resign gives her any benefits? Meaning does she make sure she doesn't lose this? Does she automatically get this if she resigns during this I'm just curious to watch it. I would like to know if you resigned, you still get your pension, Like, what does that mean? I don't Actually, I don't know. I don't. I don't understand. Well, you know, like they just said they have not yet accepted her resignation, So we'll see what happens, you know. But that's the

information that we have. That's fine. Didn't the police chief resigned to Yes, the police chief also resigned. Why did the police chi right? They said, I don't blah blacklash of him saying all the back saying it was a mistake so quickly. They are sleeping in that white men don't just resign when they're wrong. He probably collect Now that's what it is. You have cops resign last year and they said they didn't like the changes that were happening.

But why would he get fired the police chief? Why would the police chief didn't get fired, that's my point. But why if Johnston saying he resigned to keep his pension, why why would he have gotten fired? Me? Like, why deal with this? If fired? If I had got my pension, why what would he get fired for it? Because he didn't do the shooting. He didn't do anything. And yeah, he said it was a mistake, but she said it was a mistake, right, But I'm saying, why deal with

the headache? If you're older, you got your pension already, just retire something deeper going on what I'm telling you. I don't know what it is yet, we'll find out, but you know what they were. So anyway, the Brooklyn Center City Council on Monday, they did vote to fire Potter and police Chief Tim Gannet, but they both submitted letters of resignation on Tuesday. Oh okay, well that makes sense. So they voted to fire him, so they probably was gonna get fired. Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, so uh

there you have now. Dante Ray's father said that he cannot accept the cop depends for killing his son. Abby Wright said that this mistake just doesn't sound right. Do you accept that explanation, mister Wright? I cannot accept that I lost my son. He's never coming back. I can't accept that a mistake. That's nothing, that doesn't even sound right. You know, this officer that's been on the force for twenty six plus, for twenty six years, I can't accept that.

I would like to see justice served and her held accountable for everything that she's taken from us. Stout asking stupid questions the parents who have lost people. Do you accept that? Would you accept your child just being murdered? His son is dead? Who the hell do they think black people are? I sometimes wanted to do people understand what death is when someone you love gets killed. Don't ask me do I accept that? Don't ask me do I forgive the killer. Don't ask me to make peace

with the killer. Let me feel this and go through whatever emotion I want to do. I accept that. What kind of question is that to ask a parent who just lost the child? Well, that was Robbing Roberts on Good Morning America talking to obviously Abby Wright, who has as well. Ask Katie, right, But I think sometimes people ask a question to be able to hear their parents express how they're feeling. But do you accept that it's a parent who just lost their child. They gotta be

a bit of question that I think that. Yeah, I think the answer is pretty obvious when you ask that, But it might be just asking that question to get people to understand the emotion that comes with it and hear that emotional response. Ask me how I feel. The human eyes that ask me how I feel? I'd rather that, all right, accept that that is your front page news, all right. Now, when we come back, we have the Lucas Brothers joining us. Lucas Brothers are comedian writers, producers.

They just recently co wrote and co produce Judas and The Black Messiah. So we're gonna kick it with them when we come back. So don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club Morning. Everybody is tj Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got some special guests with us today. That's right, we got the Lucas brothers. Welcome it up, man, I'm glad to see y'all still looking very military, even though

y'all nominated for an oscar. You know, you can't change change it up too much. If y'all don't dress like this is the Oscars, I'm gonna be disappointed. A right, good points and that's the ware tuxedos man. Really. Yeah, well, we might keep our military jackets over the Texas. You know, which which one is Kenny, which one is Key? I'm Kenny, okay, and maybe I'm Keith. Yeah, let's go back for people

that don't know who the Lucas brothers are. I know you guys are from New New Jersey, So explain your journey, man, it's been crazy. So we're born September thirteenth, nineteen eighty five at um D and J Yeah, New Jersey during the height of the crack epidemic, and uh, you know it was turbulent upbringing. Yeah, drug war, drugs, killing, killing, eighties, nineties, stealing cars and it was crazy. We were the car jacking capital of the universe, you know what I mean?

What was that movie film? You know it made people mad, you know, but it was still the only representation up nor right, right, So we when our father went to prison where we were like six or seven, he was like caught up in that game and you know, doing

what he had to do to survive, got caught. And so we kind of grew up but not kind of single mom, you know, like that poverty, moving from like different places and you know, seeing that we probably shouldn't the scene when we were like when we were kids, it was wow, it was wow. I struggled in high school. He didn't really struggle on I was pretty good. He was a pretty good student that wait a minute, see there's no way and I'm struggling. You could just be like, yo, broh.

The thing is we hadn't seen sister sister yet, so we didn't have like like a sitcom play that we could do. So I was just like beast in class and he was struggling. I was like, dude, just I was struggling so much and he was doing so well. I was like, I gotta turn it around because like it's on me. Yeah. Right around my sophomore year, I started to like shift and uh start studying heart and we were able to get into college by the grace of God, and we study philosophy in college, we thought

we were gonna get our pH ds in philosophy. Like we were convinced that that's what we wanted to do. You guys are the same major, and that's that's interesting because you said your dad study philosophy in prison. Right, Yeah, that's made up philosophy. So we staided philosophy. We're gonna go to get our pH ds. But we you know, we needed money, man, Like we were broken, Like, I mean, philosophers don't make that much money. And then they were

telling us, like, graduate school for philosophy is tough. It's hard to find a job. Eight years. I'm like eight years for the philosophy. That's some philosophers do make money. Philosopher Jackson made a lot of money until he didn't. Right, Cornel was you know, he's a philosophy absolutely using it for himself. So it could have been done. But we're not Cornell West. We we thought maybe we can do something a bit more practical. So we went to law school. Right.

I went to Duke, he went to NYU. He wasn't passionate at all about it. I thought that I really wanted to be a lawyer, but it just didn't work out. Yeah, and then Right around that time in law school, I started experimenting with drugs, Like I started smoking and I started doing it adderall I was drinking and like I was starting to like because the stress of law school. I never felt anything like that before. And I'm from Newark. I've seen that's violence. I've seen like people using drugs.

Didn't never want to touch a drugs. Then I get to law school, I'm like, damn, I can't take this exam. Didn't you do three years of law school almost finished? Were almost finished? We did like with two years and like ninety eight percent of about thirty year. We had about two weeks left before our exams and we were like, okay, man, we want let's go do standout. I want to go back to the law school thing. Have you ever unpacked that?

Because you came up in the hood, so that seems so normal with the fact that when you was in law school you was like fish out of water kinda that's exactly what. Yeah, it felt like Alice in Wonderland. Like I had never seen people use drugs so openly from like privilege. It's got what you as a black man, right, because you see people in the hood, they're usually leaning on drugs for for trauma reasons, right, and y'all y'all doing it for fun, not going to jail exactly like

it blew our minds? How can they especially at law school, you know these guys other people are gonna be right policies right, laws, right, and they're breaking the rules, and these policies are going to affect you know, black people. So it was like a weird sort of situation where you're like, how can I study this and know that these these people are gonna write these laws that affect my people, but they don't even care about the rules

of the laws. Get back to it. So y'all decided not to finish law school, say after and stand up and let's do comedy. Yeah, when you're working on comedy or did some of the family gonna sa y'all funny, I'll like listen nobody. I think it was just like I went I did some stand up in New York. I went to like a club. I did a club and it was just I sucked, but I liked it. But what makes you do that? But you know what,

let me try. I was losing my mind. I think I was losing my mind, Like I was literally like drinking, doing drugs. And I was like, get man, I'm not I'm not gonna do this law school anymore. And I was just losing. I was breaking up with my girlfriend at the time. He was breaking up with me at the time, and I was just like I was on one man, Like it was crazy, but I was on stage and that was the only time I felt normal. And he went to his first show. No, he sent me.

He sent me a clip of it. You didn't even go. I was in North Carolina. He was in New York, right. He sent me a clip of his first show, and I was like, yo, this is terrible, the worst set. And I thought that I know, I knew he was having like a crisis of mental health. And I was like, dude, man like just do it a few more times, but you know, get back to the books because this ain't But he kept with it, like he still kept going to the open mics and he still kept, you know,

trying to get better at it. So after like a couple of weeks he called me again. It was like, yo, I think we need to quit law school. I think we need to And I was like, crazy, I want to be a lawyer. And then put three years into this. I'm not gonna just drop it for comedy. But he was very persuasive. And then that's when I had that moment of clarity, like, man, let's just do it. Let's try it. So he wouldn't been a good lawyer, because

that's what I said. I used my three years of legal education just to convince him to drop out of law school. Now what did your mom say? Your mom, you know, struggled to get you in good school, worked hard for you. Yeah, she's so excited my boys about to be attorneys. And he like, Mom, now we're dropping out, we're gonna be what I mean, she thought we were losing our minds. I mean, she knows like our whole story, so she's familiar with our father not being there. She's

familiar with the drugs. So he's like, you know, maybe you guys should go to therapy or something. Make sure you think about what you're doing before you're doing it. Just being a mom. But eventually, when she saw that we were serious about it and we were made us happy, he was he was completely on board, right dad. You know, he thought that he's gonna get some free legal advice right once we dropped out, he got upset. He's been

super supportive. I love how you said, my mom knows our whole story, like people like my mom is my day one? Oh really? I mean you can't lie to her, like you know what I mean, You can't lie to pretty much your mom. You can't lie to your mom. She just sees right through that. We got more with the Lucas Brothers when we come back. Don't move. It's the Breakfast Club, Good morning morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee. Charlomagne, the guy we are the Breakfast Club

were still kicking it with the Lucas Brothers. Charlomagne, do you think censorship artists, uh woke culture that we're in right now, is that going to dilute the art? No? I don't think so. I think that it's going to make because even more, what's the way to look for making us like I think I didn't creative? You have to be creative. You have to be a little bit more considerative because I think about it. Look, there was a period when black face was like the top style

of comedy. People like and people like you can't do black face anymore. I'm sure the people who were doing black face were like, this is ruining comedy, this is hurting the purity. But it's like, no, you just have to, you know, adjust and make better comedy. I think that's how evolution works. It's like you just have to if people are like they don't make fun of trends or don't make fun of gays, and now we can't do

those things. I think it makes our comedy pressure. I think it makes it purer because now you're, you know, got to be a bit more inventive. You gotta just be a bit more creative and clever. But does it really reflect reality, meaning like a should get a certain type of license to reflect reality or right, if you're not able to reflect reality without people offending people saying, oh that that shouldn't be in the movie. It's offensive, Like,

but it's a movie. I'm trying to tell a story here, right, right, right, No, I see what you're saying. I guess I just think, like it's not just about you know, telling the freest form of comedy, but it's also like a moral and social component to the comedy that we do. Right again, you can choose to be offensive, you can choose to say whatever you want, but you have to be prepared for the bass. Know, you can do whatever you want, right So, but for us, it's like you still got

to take risk, but got to you have to. I mean that's art. Art is risk taking. Yeah, I mean, you guys are doing a remake of Revenge the Nerds. I heard with Seth McFarlane right that movie would be considered problematic, toxic, reinforcing great culture. It was problematic, you know in the nineties, we didn't notice. How do you remake that for this era, you know, times of change. I feel like we have an opportunity to comment on

the film in the eighties, you know. I think that like they did in twenty two Jumps dree or twenty one Jumps dree R, they took an approach where it allowed for them to, you know, create a new story but also comment on the past. And I think that's what we want to do because he that's my thing. Nobody's acknowledging the shift in culture, right, right, there was a shift in culture. The stuff that you used to could have get away with the music, music, movies, whatever,

You just can't anymore. But we haven't acknowledged that. Yeah, it's almost like we just started handing out retro after speeding tickets, Right, it's weird. I think I think there's been a shift in the number of things. I feel like there's been a shift in science. We've we've gone from you know, straight Einstein's sort of relativity to sort

of a quantum sort of perspective of science. And I think that that's reflective of in the Internet, where everyone has a point of view and everyone feels like their reality is real. Like like everyone says we're speaking out of truth. Everyone's truth is sort of legit. I mean, even if it contradicts someone else's reality. And that's quantum, you know what I mean. Like everyone's perspective is legitimate, even even flat earths. Like if they believe it, why

is it not? You know, like they truly believe it's truth. If you put forth evidence that you know their beliefs are erroneous, they're still going to believe what they want to believe. Right, So you're putting yourself at a disadvantage trying to use reason to a person that doesn't even use reason, Right, what do you think about putting their disclaimers? You know, how they've been putting disclaimers like on movies and TV shows just to get people like, Okay, this

was filmed during this time. I mean, I think that that's a more effective approach than just completely banning something. I mean, I think that maybe that works. But again, I think we're assuming that audiences aren't intelligent. We're assuming that they can't differentiate between what's offensive and what's not offensive. It's and then you're gonna have a small minority of people who go online and say take this down. But I think what's happening now is people are being very

reactive to those minority of voices. Yeah, I feel like eventually, hopefully that they'll be like a leveling out where we're like, Okay, maybe we shouldn't be that reaction there, Maybe we should, Maybe we should have some sort of due process in assessing what we do with a particular piece of art,

because it's a very slippery slope. Like I even saw what they did with a YG this weekend with the meet the Fokker's record, right, and I think they took it down, but then they put it back because they said, if we take this down, and we're gonna have to do this all across the boards, so many things people could be offended by, Like it's like you can't go down that role when it comes to art. I think we need to make a distinction between offense and harm, right,

I think we need to. I think when we're assessing how we limit someone's liberty, like is that exercise of liberty harming the person or is it offending a person. If it's harming, then I think we can take a more proactive approach to the piece of art and maybe say, hey, maybe we should consider taking it down if it's just offending someone, Like I think you have a right to be offended. I'm saying, I don't think that that offense should equate to completely eliminate in a work of art.

I think we have to. I think we have to be able to process offense and have honest conversations about that which offends. But I think that that that shouldn't result in, you know, a boycott of someone's work of art that they've put years into, Like if it's harmful, if it's causing violence, if it's like causing like blatant racism, then you got like black face for example, that that was harmful to black people. You know what I mean, like, Birth of a Nation's directly harmful to black people, so

it should be removed. I mean, I don't think that that's a problem. I don't. I don't have an issue with that. But if it's just offensive, I'm like, yeah, we gotta have thicker skin. They don't move. We got more with the Lucas Brothers. When we come back, it's the Breakfast Club more DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy we are to Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with the Lucas Brothers. Charlomagne, Judas the Black Side. Well, first of all, you've done a lot more than us

in The Black Side. I remember aller friends of the People, you know what I mean? You little round? Who else was on that? Jermaine Fowler, Josh for Bennewitz. Yeah yeah, Like if you think about it now, that show should have been a hit. It should have been, but you know, you know, sometimes things fell to launch. I mean you think about Okay, see the Thunder. They had all the talent in the world, they couldn't get a championship. I don't remember when network that was true TV. How you

go from TV? The Oscar nominated I meant to say, how do y'all go from that to Oscar nominated? What are the steps? What's the process? It's a grind man like. It was crazy for us because, like it was, we were going to nowhere fast. Scotch Show gets canceled and we were like, let's just go to Lucas. Lucas Bros.

Moving gets canceled. Like so we got two cancelations under our belt with five years and we're so we escaped from New York and humiliation in our minds and we go to LA and we're like, all right, we're gonna figure this out here. We're gonna you know, we're gonna gonna figure out I act, We're gonna write something. Before we went to LA, we were already like thinking about Judas. You know, we were already right right right, really brainstorming like some of the beats of the story or we're

just doing a lot of research. Around twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, we started doing a ton of research about Happen. We didn't know how to turn it into a film, but we knew like, this is something that we would like to potentially turn into a film. So we went to LA with the goal in mind of either getting the script deal to write, to write Judas, or to sell

pitch somewhere. We just we had ambitions going into Cali, but we were still so focused on comedy that it was sort of like a balance in act, trying to get Judas made, but also trying to like, you know, get our comedy career, you know, back on that. I'm back back on track. So we're in La. We're pitching the story around town, getting no traction. People like this doesn't make any sense, It's not gonna make any money. It's it's a period piece about a black revolutionary socialism.

What are you guys crazy? And we're like, yeah, all right, we are crazy. So we we kind of went away from the material for a bit, went back to comedy. We were doing this pilot with Effects Killer Mike. It was for him and that eventually went to Netflix and

go to Effects. So we did the pilot for Trigger Warning for Effects and Shaka King was directing it, and that's how we That's how we met Shaka and Uh we knew that after we got rejected from all of our pitches, we were like, I think we need to work with a filmmaker who can can can take this idea and make it into a film, And so that's when we we're like, we gotta, we gotta, we gotta

reach out to Shock. And then we hung out with Shocking in our apartment in Hollywood, listening to music, just vibing on cinema, and we sort of pitched him our idea and he said it was great, and we started to develop a beefier outline. And then but simultaneously, We'll bursting the other writer, and Oscar Nominee was, you know, working on his own script, and Jamaine Fowler, our boy from a full TP, he knew, he made the connection. He knew Will, he knew that we were working on

our thing, and he just brought us all together. We we used our story outline that we worked on with Shatka, and so Shotka and Will went together and basically rewrote will script using our story outline, and they wrote a brilliant script and h it went. They sent it to Ryan Coogler, but we didn't know that Shatka knew Ryan Coogler.

But once I mean once Ryan got it, that's when things started to like pick up, because I loved the script and he definitely wanted to make it, and he wanted that to be his first project for on its new production company in Proximity, and so things just started to get crazy. Yeah, first it was like we were nowhere and then Shotka Will, Ryan Charles, I'm like, what the hot? All in a year that just started happening.

We were like what the uh? And then we went out with you know, the script with Macro with Ryan with Shocko or Will and us Macro financing half, Acro financing half, and the white Man still saying no, white Man still say still said we put on half the money. It is gonna be a bidding war where we think that you know, this is we got Khluia, we got we got Keith, we have our stars, we have a brilliant script, we have these great producers. And still you know,

it's a struggle. Think about that, all of that already attached Daniel, Keith, Ryan money, Macro half money with Lucas brothers and the White Man like, no, I don't think people realize how hard it is to get a movie made, and especially when you have a dream team like that and you still can't get tracking, Like that's how hard of it? And Ryan after Black Panthers, billionaire black panther, the hottest producer in the game and still but fortunately

enough Warner Bros. You know, they they put up half the money and they wanted to distribute it. They love the script, was shoot it. They lit it, They let us shoot it, and it just came out as perfect as I thought. Why did Warner Brothers get it? I want, I need, I need white people to understand how coolest they can be. So I want to know why did Warner Brothers get it over every other black executives, black exacts, black exacts something they get it. Nigia really like he

was the key. What's her last man? I don't know how to nag Kikendal. I think I may have mispronounced that, but yeah, she's she's a brilliant executive, and she was the one who sort of he saw the importance of the film. She loved the script, and she was the one who sort of just powered it through luth Nages. That's why diversity matters. That's exactly why. Because you're telling these stories and if you're sitting across from a group of white people, they just don't even hear it. They

don't know the language. They don't know the why it matters. Why. This is how we have to describe Fred Hampton. The white people were like, Fred Hampton is the velvet underground of civil rights leaders. You thought perhaps that they'll see the connection. They did. It was like, you know, many white executive problems, like Okay, Ryan Cooper is coming here to talk about doing Black Panther Another Black Panthers that was at Marvel. But maybe we could probably like try

to mess around it. Now. I see you twitted it if you guys wouldn't ask as you are returned from stand up and you're cutting off half your family. Yeah, but we're gonna do that before. Yeah, I mean we got to figure out how do we figure out who we're gonna cut out? Yeah? Well what family members you got? North? Oh? Man? Just the ones who haven't talked to me in years

and like hit me up for money. So like the ones who like didn't know I existed, Like like, oh you, I mean your cousin from your father's side, can you let me buy all three hundred dollars like a man? Get that? Yeah? Man, it's crazy, it's crazy. It's like comfortable because they think you got money, because you got a Oscar nominees, like, you don't get paid for this. You gotta pay your way for always had to get

extra money for an ask A nomination. It's it's expect you're close with your dad while he while he was in jail. What you close with your dad? We were close at first, you know, we went to go visit them a bunch, and then we moved to North Carolina. Our mom remarried, so we sort of became distant. We grew a little distant because we couldn't visit them as much and we weren't really calling them, and that was like that must have been like five or six years.

And then once he got out, we started to work on our relationship. But you know, it was a lot to unpack. I mean, yeah, you know, as we got older, we started to fill the ramifications of not growing up with a father, but a lot of anger ramifications of growing up with a father went to prison. So it's like, you know, you just have rage. You hate the law, you hate the government, you hate all that, and you're trying to figure out ways to cope, and uh, it

was tough. It was tough. It's still tough sometimes to to to speak with our dad because of so much we missed out on so much, you know what I mean, And you can never forget how much you missed out on right, Like even like to this day, I go to the park and I see a dad like throwing the ball with their son, and I tear up a little bit. I'm like, man, it's kind of I wish I had that, Like it's it kind of sucks to know that. It's sad, man said right now, the way

he continue you tear up father and sons. Man Like, I can't even like scroll on Instagram when I see people like saying, I'm like, girl, it just it's hurts. You want to shut up, shut up? You want to go place you might be in the make up for you know situation. I do have one final question. How do y'all maintain your own identity as twins? Oh that's a great question. That's a great question, a great question.

We don't. No. You know what's crazy is that for a while we tried to like that aish I didn't right, just like I want to be Keith, he wants to be Kenny. We went to law school. We were just trying to do our own thing, and we just had a breakdown, and uh, I think we realized, like we're just stronger together. U. And why do you need an individual identity? Like why why do we why do we emphasize that so much? Like why is that such a thing that we place an importance on that it was

supposed to be normal? Like normal normal is being a single ten of being an individual. And I think that's why people get so stressed out. Why is that normal? But everyone's like has a desire to get married. So are we to have a desire to have a family or we have it? So there's this notion that the individual supreme. But we rushed to these group identities so quickly. We have sports teams, we have our family, we have you know, religion, religion, any political part. We rushed to

these eternity exactly exactly. So I think we have to readjust how we see what normal is. It's not necessarily about the individual, it's not necessarily about you know, willing yourself to greatness. It's really a community type thing. And I think that he and I kind of see that and we're like, we have a group identity, right right, right, And we just so happened to look exactly like weird group, but a group nonetheless. Well, I hope y'all win the

Oscar man man. Y'all gonna give a phenomenal speech. I really think y'all will give a great speech. And I want to see y'all up there with the military Jack the military Jacke at least the pins something. I think we will keep our pens up. I'll keep the FREEHERI Lucas, it's the breakfast Club goal morning. She's filling the tea. This is the rumor report with Angela Yee on the Breakfast Club. All right, So Krondo Rondo drop part two of our interview sit down that we did last month.

And in part two, and by the way, I just want to say, understanding is a word, because I know people were quoting that word. It's a It's a mixture of understanding and agreement. Thank you in the Urban dictionary. Stop me, it is now. And so one of the things that he talks about was his best friend, little Tim getting shot the night that they were in the parking lot. I look up and I've seen my parting

on Wow. He got shot four times a couple of months before, right with a couple of incidents upen in my whole time he'd been shot five times. What he was telling me. What he was telling me was a lot of people didn't know that when Little Tim got shot in the parking lot that night, when King Vaughan was unfortunately tragically killed, people didn't know that he already had just recently been shot just a couple of months

prior to this. So that, like I was saying earlier, there's been a lot of incidents that have been going on. He said. The only reason this one obviously is popular is because of who was involved, and because it was on video, and so a lot of people don't know what happens behind the scenes. Did he say he got shot nine times and five months. Yeah, if you've been shot nine times or five months, you need to give you a life to God. Okay, that means you never

get a chance to heal from any gunshot wounds. Nine times and five months. But then he was in jail. He's been in jail and you know he's home now, but he was in jail after he got shot, so he was going through a lot while he was locked up. Also, you know, I haven't gotten shot now. There was also a rumor and people were saying that Krondo Rondo had looked like on the video he tried to take King Von's chain. Here's what he had to say about that. And there were other shootings going on, and that I

knew was so many people shooting. Man, if you was there, you would be hurt from everything that's going on, because nobody really know. I see my partner shot up. Like a lot of people are saying that I was trying to take bro chain, like ma'am when they come to jewelry, ma'am, victory sixty thousand all of chain man like ma'am. He did come. He did come me, ma'am about nine hundred times during the course of the interview. It's why I don't mind young nigga business. I stay all of these

young niggas where you feel me. I'm forty two years old. I am a sir. When you are a sir or ma'am, you have to carry yourself as such. All right. Well, anyway, he wanted to clear up that rumor because he was saying that he definitely was not trying to take anybody's chain in the incident. And he also said, now this was interesting that in that parking lot, he didn't even know that it was King Vaughan until the next day.

I never in life, ma'am, never in life. Hey words with them every and at this point didn't know who it was either, Maam. I didn't know this was him, ma'am. I swater, God on my soul, ma'am. Like like, ma'am, this is a neighborhood. I did not know that was him to the next day. So wait a minute. When they got into the fight, he did, he didn't. I'm

keeping my boy stayed out of young nigga business right. Well, you know, if you hear like the course of the whole interview is what he's saying is he takes lean every day. He was sleeping the car before the end didn't happened, and he wasn't even trying to go to the club, so he was while his friends were inside. He was staying in the car. He remained in the car because he hadn't planned to go there. He just wanted to stay in the car. A little tim said,

I'm gonna stay outside with you. He didn't want to leave him. Man, we don't need no explanation, man, what is the earth? I'm just trying to make sure you guys, what are they doing versus what? Oh? Yes, ya got me in. But you know, he's going through TSD, Like he's had people come into the house to speak to him. It's a lot, you know, for him to have witnessed and gone through. So we wanted to tell his side of the story because there's a lot of people saying

things that he feels like aren't true. So he wanted to tell from his side because he was there. So this is what he's saying. And right now we just know his side of what happened. Man, I feel like praying. Man. I ain't mess with y'all. I feel like praying. Man. I need to stage myself man. Okay, yeah, so that is your rumor reports, yes, ma'am. All right, man, I see y'all a young nigga business. Okay, that's just all of y'all out there. Yeah. I just I just I

just pray. I mean, if you I think if we care about people's lives, and I don't think that he wants anything to happen. So that's the whole point of this, right, Like, we don't want to see more people get we don't want to see more people get killed. They do disrecords like that I don't a whole lot going lawns. It is. They do disrecords against each other. It's like a ny I just told y'all I need to see that man. Okay, well, sir,

who are you giving a donkey too? Well, sir man, they's a dude named Kevin van Loving And and I have a feeling that you are going to love this story because it's about one of your favorite things. Almo, what, I don't know what you're talking about. Oh yeah, sure, I'm looking at you different after this story. Oh my goodness, all right, dunkey, today's up next. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be

the same. Angela here and the General Insurance has been helping people save money for nearly sixty years. They offer the quality coverage you deserve at prices you can afford. Make the right call and go with the General called eight hundred General or visit the General dot com sum Donkey of the day. I'm a Democrat, so being donkey of the Bay a little bit of a mixed club. So like a donkey. Now, I've been called a lot of my twenty three years that donkey of the Bay

is a new wife. Yeah, donkey Today for Wednesday, April fourteenth, goes to a home inspecting Michigan named Kevin Wayne van Loving. What a name Van Loving. If this guy doesn't own in nineteen ninety two for the Econo line, I would be disappointed. Okay, at least in nineteen ninety seven Plumoth voyage and maybe a Voswagen eear old van. Maybe moral

the story is he should drive nothing but vans. When your last name is van Lovin, you only have one vehicle of choice, and the license plate of that vehicle has to say Van Loving. Sneakers too. Okay, when your last name is van Loving, you can only wear vans, the old school black and white ones with the jash crap. Now, some would say that if you drive a van and wear Vans, that's the child sex offenders start a kid. I'm just saying, if you profile pedophiles, this kind of

fits the description. But maybe I'm making all this up. This is probably a personal bias that I'm projecting, so never mind me. But back to mister van Lovin. Now, mister van Lovin is a home inspector and he was inspecting the home of a twenty two year old woman in Oxford Township. He was inspecting the property before a sale. Well, something in that house turned Kevin van loving on. I don't know what type of afro djak he used before

he inspected that. Maybe he ate some chocolate, maybe some figs, some oysters, asparagus. Maybe something increased his lobido, his sexual function. Something got him so hot and bothered in that house that he had the pleasure himself right then in there. Let's go to WJBK Fox to Detroit for the report. Police before selling an Oxford Township couple let this man into their home on Gill Street for a routine inspection.

They left, never suspecting the fifty nine year old man would allegedly fulfill his sexual urges with their child's Almo doll. The debsurbing sexual act revealed when movement in the child's room triggered the nursery camera. The ambag shows when Kevin van Leuven picked up the tickle me Elmo doll. The homeowner shocked when she was alerted on her cell phone after hitting record, she immediately contacted the Oakland County Sheriff's Office.

Our deputies confronted him and initially he denied it, and then they told him it was on video, and then he apologized. He's been ard with aggravated indecent exposure and a misdemeanor charge of malicious destruction of property. But perhaps what's even more disgusting after abusing the doll, van Louven put it back. I never thought I would find someone who loves Almo more than Rashawn Casey aka dj Envy.

I have so many questions. I know people say we shouldn't can't shame, We shouldn't shame people for what they are into sexually, but that's ps Okay, that's some twenty twenty one. I've been woke too long, and I need some sleep because I'm not thinking straight when i'm sleepy. Rhetoric, Okay, If I can't shame Kevin van loving for this, in the word shame needs to be abolished all together. Now, can I try to understand Kevin van Lovin? Sure, let's

unpack this. How many times has Kevin Wayne van Lovin sat his ass in front of the TV and masturbated the session me screed? I wonder I also wonder if he sat down with a therapist or psychiatrist, Could he or she bring this back to something that happens in his childhood. I mean it's Almo, as in tickle me Elmo, right, and tickling equals flirting. I read somewhere, and by somewhere, I mean google that from adolescents and you're roughly seven times more likely to be tickled by somebody at the

opposite sex. And the most common reason the tickle is to show affection. So maybe when he was a baby, as a young lad, he got tickled a lot and the thought of tickling turns him on. I don't know, Okay, So when you're a creature, that is the symbol of tickling. Maybe when you see that, you get turned on. When you see that, that that symbol of tickling, that is Elmo. A lot of people don't like tickling, but tickling is a physical expression to love. So maybe just maybe he

saw Elmo and he wanted to show his love. Some people do tickle fights is for play, people's stage, tickle fights in the bedroom. Nothing I'm saying makes sense, does it? Of course not? Okay? God may not make mistakes, but humans do. But I hear stories like Kevin van Loven and I know they say, don't question God, but sometimes you have to recognize that I didn't give you the

same brains he gave everybody else. Okay, there was certain periods in time that God was just creating anybody and anything, all right. Genesis one twenty six says God created man in his image according his likeness. Right. Well, humans, sometimes we just like to try things, or it gets the water to see what sticks. I think God did that when he was creating some humans. Some humans he just created with his eyes closed. Kevin van Loving might have

been one of them. Okay, God made him and forgot about him, so didn't Mister van Loving all these years has been left to his own devices, wandering around life aimlessly by himself, without God's guidance, only to end up on Chesame Street masturbating next to Oscar Grounds trash can while Elmo just minding his business performing Elmo song hit that tune for me dramas Come on now, m Kevin van Loving is somewhere hut and parting right now. That's

what does it for Kevin van Loving? Catchy? Okay, enough enough enough, okay, Kevin van Loving is reinforcing all the pedophile stereotypes. I told you driving the van and wearing vans is the sexist fend to start a kid. You know how many people Chris Hansen caught who fit that profile. And this guy, Kevin van Loving, Okay, you got caught sexually assaulting at Elmo Dall in a nursery. That sounds pretty pet old file to me. Okay, Elmo is three and a half years old. Do you know that three

and a half years old? You sick bathter. This is what Kevin van Loving here has when drunken love plays why swerving on a swervin swerving on a big surfing and good. Please give Kevin van Loving Let really, Mark, give Kevin van Loving the biggest he huh heh heh you stupid mother? Are you dumb? Do it envy? Oh? You don't want to do the voice today? Huh? You want to play Elmo to day? Do you? I was gonna say, well, I'm just curious. You won't play a game. You want to play a game only if you do

the voice. Ask me in the voice you are play, Yes, I do. Let's play a game of what Kevin van Loving Michigan home inspector walked into a nursery and a home, saw tickle me yamo dog and had his way sexually with it. Guess what racy Angela start with you, I'll say Caucasian? Okay, what makes you say this with such confidence? Um? I don't know. It's just what I wanted to be. Okay, uh Rashan. I want you to do. I need you to answer in the voice the whole time. Okay, Kevin

van Loving Yes from Michigan, Home and factor. You're very familiar with home inspectress. Right, he was in a home inspecting, he was in a nursery, saw Elmo doll, had his way with the Elmo doll sexually. Jess what race he is? Let me chuck light? The hell did you Ben Dover like that? For the hell? Were you checking? Look like you wanted somebody to check you. Hell's wrong with you? I don't know. I don't put his muck shot up. Oh we don't. We're not donna revolve you both are right.

This is absolutely a colonizer. Okay. This is the highest levels of caucasianary. Okay. The man he's was very heavy in this story. All right, all right, all right, thank you for that. You gotta register the sex offender when you do stuff like this. If you're Kevin van Loven, I'm sure. I'm sure that guy asked, well, it's a dog, so I don't think so. All right? Anyway, ask e is next eight hundred five eight five one O five one. If you need relationship advice, called ye Now it's the

breakfast Club of the morning. The Breakfast Club. Need relationship advice, need personal advice? Just need real advice? Call up now for asking morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela, Yee, Charlomagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. It's time to ask yee. Hello. Who's this? Oh? Yeah, this is last week from Jersey. Good morning. What's your quest to fore? Um? Yeah? I just want to know what I should do about my relationship or right now I'm I'm going back and forth,

back and forth. You know, I'm break up with my girl. She break up with me. You know, we both love each other. We're supposed to be getting married, but you know, we never really drink up within twenty four hours, you know, because we lived together, you know, so recently we just broke up. And I feel as though, is that you know I told our leases up? Should I just gonna keep going back and forth, back and forth. You know, but I really love her. I just don't know what

to do. You know, what do y'all keep breaking up over? It's like I would say, it's miscommunication, a lot of miscommunication. One minute, it's like it feels like I'm coming off a little bit strong. When I calm that down, you know, and realize it is miscommunication, I'll talk to her right, But then she's already in the minds that has then you know, I'm coming off gonna I'm gonna come off strong.

It's already in her head that it's gonna be an argument at the end of the thing, instead of this coming to an agreement, like all, we're gonna be at a middle ground and just work it out. Here's a couple of things that I think number when. Those are the worst when you're in a relationship and y'all are always breaking up every other day. First of all, your friends get sick of hearing about y'all. Get to give it. No one believes you. Y'all broke up. Oh, now y'all

back together. I had to make a pact one time with a boyfriend that I had where we said, look, we all get into arguments because being in a relationship, part of that is knowing how to argue in a healthy manner, right, because you're not always going to agree on everything. Obviously, there's gonna be times when y'all need to figure out how to come together and work out

issues that you might be having. That's just as important as being in a relationship is knowing how to healthily be able to argue and get over it and move on. And so one thing you should do is make a pact with each other that you're gonna stop this silly breaking up all the time just to get back together, because soon as you say I'm done, it's over. We're not together anymore. It just becomes this whole other issue.

And y'all know it's not even too and no one even believes you guys, right, yeahs, I'll posted up one

problem like, yeah, I'm single. Everybody's like, nah, I'm not believing you this time, or they like, oh, I can't believe it, because you know, you guys are mist for you will not mist for each other, but you know you speak perfectly for each other, right, So what y'all need to do is when you're not in the middle of an argument, discuss the things that you could both improve on within yourself and then for each other, and be receptive to hearing that criticism, because that's important. It's

obviously y'all bump heads on things you need to figure out. Okay, if we get into an argument, orf we have some type of miscommunication, this is how we're going to handle it moving forward, so that y'all have a game plan because it is a team effort and it is a situation where y'all not always going to be smooth. But how do I handle it when things aren't smooth? And now, as far as your lease, when your lease is up,

do you guys want to renew the lease? What is the discussion about that we were playing before about moving you know, out of the neighborhoods and stuff like that, and that's good, but now it's just starting come to the point where it's like, oh, should I just move by myself and handle what I got to handle? You by yourself and handle what you gotta handle. And then if it's meant to be that's literally yeah, and there's

and y'all can still be together and not live together. Yeah, So if that's how you feel you want things to be then yes, like get your own places until y'all can get to the space where Okay, let's spend a year you in your place, I'm in my place while we have this lease, and then let's figure out if we're going to be able to move forward and move past these differences and figure out how we can come together and work through things and not break up every

other day. It drives everyone around you crazy too. Yeah, it's driving me nuts. I'm to be honest. Yeah, so that's what I really think. And listen, so many people

have that issue. Yeah, it's more so like, you know, I'll go into my separate little you know, side, and I'll get a little tax like, oh, come over here right quick, you know, let's I think we're going to talk about it, and it's just like more like a cuddle session, right And look, it's just to me, it seems like y'all love each other, you know, you want to be together, but the arguing is like dysfunctional how

you'll communicate with each other. And that's the problem that y'all need to fix, because there's nothing normal about arguing and breaking up every other day. Yeah, thank you? All right, enough haling, all right? Ask ye, thank you eight hundred five five one oh five one. If you need relationship or any advice or any type of advice, hit ye. Now it's the Breakfast Club Morning some real advice with Angela yet ask ye morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela, Yee,

Charlomagne the God. We are the Breakfast Club. We're in the middle of asking yee Hello, who's this? This is Anna, Anna, what's up? What's your question for you? Hi? An issue with my relationship and it's been to where like, okay, I went through his phone, and then I stopped going through his phone, and then he would go through mind but then don't want me to go through his and I'm trying not to be a hypocrite and him, you know,

he's a hypocrite. I don't understand. And it's become an issue and it's just like, do you not go through your up your significance? There's phone? We leave them alone, Like how would you like? Why are y'all going through each other's phone? Because it seems like a deeper issue than just touching somebody else's property and reading their personal messages. What is the reason behind that? That's what you really

need to get at well. It has been issues like in the beginning, I did you know what might be something that might pop up and I'm looking, I don't look right, so I would go through it and then it would be a bigger issue that has happened, and it has been you know, infability not its just it didn't seem right to me. And so I feel like since that happened, it's just been more of an issue like, okay, can I trust you and everything else? Like I trust him now, I haven't been through a phone or anything

like that. Everything's been okay, but it's being like, you don't down you know, he might just pop on my fault if he is not to be a problem, because like and you know, it's different. Couples are different, right, Like some people have access to each other's full access to each other's phones, no problem, and some people feel like, look, you don't know what me and my friends are discussing family members. I don't really need anybody going through my phone.

And it's also a symbol of do you not trust me? Why are you going through my phone? It's not like you just use my phone because you forgot yours at home or anything like that. It's because there's trust issues. And that's what it really is that y'all need to work through, is the trust issues. The phone is just a symptom of that. But the real issue is y'all

don't trust each other fully for some reason. He doesn't trust you, right and see, and that's the thing ago when he's going to phone, there's nothing in my phone. There's nothing to find on my phone because I don't love look at he is and it's like, ok now it may not be a big field, but you feel hiding some funny And that's where I don't like communication.

Everything fall short even though we have right that little stuff that is being good, And you know, it's like a timper tat thing, like you found some stuff on his phone, So now he's trying to go through yours to see if he could find something so he could be like, well you did this, because maybe it'll take away some of the heat that's on him for stuff that you found on his phone. And you know, some people will tell you, what, if you go looking for something,

you're gonna find something. But the true to the matter is if you're looking for something, it's because you think something is going on, right, because you wouldn't be doing this if you felt confident and secure. Yeah, so y'all need to figure out how do you feel confident and secure? And you need to discuss those things. What is it that you can do for me to make me feel more secure? What can he do that's gonna make you feel like, Okay, he's not doing anything. What are some

of the steps that he needs to take? Really communication and making sure that you at least enlighten me or some of the things that's going on, regardless if it's hetty or if it's not like you know, it would be better for me to know about some of the things. So then when I actually see here, and let's say I see it, you know, I won't be upset about it because about it right over, explain everything to me.

I don't care if it's a little I just want to know what's going on, who you're communicating with, who this person is, so that I feel comfortable and he should be okay with that. Have you told him that, Yes, we have kind of have been getting better, but it's just, you know, I don't know. I feel like it's for open relationship, you know, for us to be open for

each other and everything else. I feel like, you know, a function shouldn't be a problem if I so, I'm going to ask you, can I go through I mean not to the moment and do your phone? You know, let me see your phone runs like it should be an issue of you standing over me and looking over me,

like you being fuficient about it. Right, Well, maybe what y'all need to do is make a pact with each other, like if as long as you are fulfilling these things, because I'm sure there's some things that he needs you to do also for him, right right, it's a give and take. If you guys can be open and receptive to those things, then maybe you make an agreement. Let's not go through each other's phones anymore. Let's try to

do this with trust and see what happens. Now things fall apart, then it might be you having to figure out is this a situation I want to remain in and staying if I'm not feeling secure. But let's work on trusting each other. And it's a process because y'all don't have trust right now and it might take away

to build that backup. Thank you. And I had a question for the marriage been too, because how are you guys relationship blacks like, how do you mirrors blacks along, like, how did you guys get to the point where you're at with your wife shutting the hell up and listening, ain't laughing and trust me and trust me those phones have been gone through too. Yeah, my wife has access to my phone. Actually she pulled some stuff on Instagram for me, So I mean right now, but I'm just

saying it was a process to get to that point. Um, when I grew up and I realized what I wanted and my wife is the love of my life and I don't want to do nothing stupid to hurt her. So, yeah, we have an open relationship where I opened. As far as our phones are concerned, I can leave my phone on accounter. She knows my past cold, she knows the

past goals everything I know. The past goals to all her stuff too, Like it's I'm trying to get to that's where I feel like, you know, it shouldn't be a problem, like that's my problem that it feels like it's a when it came to stuff like that, And I don't want to problem because at one point I didn't even have to tassle on my fault. Right, But you said don't want him going through your phone? Right, I don't mean I never cared. That's about that's my thing.

I never cared if you get or didn't. My issue is like you have on your phone. I don't even have a poom and then he has the necessary assword onto his Facebook. It's like, why do you have a passwords? Why so you're not concerning about his phone? Because I felt like you were saying you didn't want him going through your phone and he keeps doing it. Well, I don't feel like he should. My phone is I haven't

been going through years. I don't care if you isn't the fact that I feel like it should be equal for that. I just don't want you to feel like y'all got to go through each other's phones. I want you to get to that point. But if you're using his phone and he's using yours, it's not because you're going through it. Yeah, that's true. Well, thank you so much for your health, and thank you guys. You guys have a wonderful morning. Peace right ask ye eight hundred

five eight five one o five one. If you need a relationship of advice, you could hit you know, we got rumors on the way. Yes, and let's talk about Serena Williams and her new deal. All right, we'll get into that next. It's The Breakfast Club. Good Morning, The Breakfast Club. Listen, Oh, got its report? Breakfast Club. Russell Wilson and see Eira are going to be hosting NBC's Roll Up Your Sleeves TV special that's happening on Sunday. Now.

There'll be influential people like Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Charles Barkley, Shaquille O'Neill, Doctor Fauci of course is involved, and they said it's going to educate viewers, raise awareness and dispel concerns surrounded the COVID nineteen vaccines. I don't know if this is the week to do that. When they're recalling, they recalling vaccines. How can you dispel rumors are people's fear around the vaccine when you're actually recalling the vaccine

because it's doing things to people. For the Jonathan Johnathan one, at least the show will aim to inform and encourage these who have vaccination concerns to learn the facts. Now do you say on the show, all of them except for Johnson and Johnson. We can't speak for that, but mcdern, this is only about mcderna and father. Do you at least say that, do you acknowledge that at least? Yeah?

I mean they kind of have to because it was recalled, right. Yeah, Doctor Fact he's on it, and he's already spoken about Johnson and Johnson being paused for now because of concerns about blood clots for women. By the way, all of it with all six people that had complications with women, So that Sunday all right. Serena Williams has inked a first look deal with Amazon Studios, and she spoke to

Vanity Fair about it. I just signed a first look deal with Amazon Studios, and so we're working on to create some scripted and non scripted stuff and products and just bring really interesting stories that really touched the heart to the screen. Also doing a docuseries on yours truly, but just you know, kind of following following it around, but through my through my eyes and through my lens. And so I'm actually joining the EP credits on that

as well. We're dropping a Clues Monster. Serena Williams, I love it anytime folks get money to create A'm all for it. She was actually talking to Michael B. Jordan during Vanity Affairs inaugural Cocktail Hour live event, and he gave her some tips too, if you want to check that out. All right, Bridgeton has been renewed first seasons three and four already buy Netflix. So yeah, season two hasn't even happened yet, but they've already renewed it for

seasons three and four. In a statement, Shanda Rhyme said, from the first time I read Julia Quinn's delicious Bridgeton series, I knew these were stories that would captivate a viewing audience, but the evolution of this adaptation would not be a success without the many significant contributions of the entire Shondaland team.

This two season pickup is a strong vote of confidence in our work, and I feel incredibly grateful to have partners as collaborative and creative as Netflix as Dope, because it helps you create such an intricate storyline, because you know, you know where you're going, you know many seasons you've got. Yeah, I mean, there's gonna be some surprises the next couple of seasons of British. You're on it. I didn't say that. I just sat. It's not happening. I have no faith

in you, don't believe in you at all. You're a liar all right. Now, Javanti Davis had posted on his Instagram story, I don't know if y'all saw this, I can't stop cheating on my girl, and then he said, I'm effing retarded, all right. So those are the posts, and his girlfriend is NSSA rich girl Nessa, and she posted, I hate my lurking skills. I'll be finding exactly what I'm looking for, including the whole family and Grandma don't play.

And then I guess it was revealed that it looks like from these posts that we're going back and forth that she's talking about Bernie Burgos's daughter, And so then Bernie Burgos's daughter actually went and was going back and forth on social media as well, So it turned into a whole big thing. But Javante wants people to know he was on snapchat that he is not cheating. Here's what he posted and now, just so nothing won't think I'm gonna here cheating what this? So he's sewing who

he's with to show that he's not cheating. He also said that he's not the person that posted that. He said none of that BS was me, So I don't know if he's trying to say somebody else posted it. I don't know. No, are we sure she didn't get a hold of her of his password, you know what I mean, and got into his account the post that I'm just asking here, that's embarrassing. I don't know if I want to post that, Like if I'm the girlfriend I can't stop cheating on my girl, Yeah, what I

want to post that? Then? And then it's the exactly Then it's the effort retarded part. After that, it's like she's doing that on purpose, like that's the point of to shame him. I don't know. I have no idea what happened. But he's saying it wasn't him. All right, that is your rumor. Okay, all right, well shout out to revote. We'll see tomorrow everybody else the People's Choice mixes up next. Let's go. Everybody is DJ Envy and Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club Now.

Shout to the Lucas Brothers for joining us this morning. Salute to the Lucas Brothers. Man brilliant, you know, talented individuals who are now OSCAR nominated. I mean, I just I just like to see people come up because I remember when they were doing Friends of the People on True TV with with my guy a little rel and Jermaine Foyler in the late great Kevin Barnett. And to see them, you know right in the movie. Now that's as Can nominated. You know, it's super inspiring. So salute

to the Lucas Brothers. Man, New New Jersey Zone. All right, Bridge Cuty, All right, morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We all the Breakfast club. That's time to get up out of here. Man, you guys have a great day today. Also today I'll actually be doing a live at one pm and I'll be with Coach Jesse and it's called Save Our Moms, the Black Maternal Health and Equity. So it's on the hills of the first ever proclamation of Black Maternal Health Week that was

founded by Black Mamas Matter in twenty seventeen. And I'll be talking to Coach Jesse, including some other very special guests as well, be talking about these critical health issues and what we can do to save our moms by advancing health equity legislatively, in the healthcare system and personally. So make sure y'all tune in for that at one pm today. All right, Charlomage, you've got a positive note for the people I do man. The positive note is

simply this. Setting boundaries isn't always easy or nice, but it's necessary, spiritual and empowering.