This Weeks Rewind with Ben Crump, Tezlyn Figaro and Nadia Hallgren

here the last two days, so you part of reference. Ye. We got some special guests joining us today. Test is back again and we also have Nadia Hall Green welcome you, and of course attorney Ben Crump, who has a new documentary called Civil that's out June nineteenth. Well, good morning, guys, and thank you for joining us. Thank you King for having us. Now for people that don't know, breakdown what is civil, what it's about, and tell us all about it. Certainly are Lee. I am always in eye of you,

so I say that public, I thank you. I appreciate that. Civil is net Lix documentary coming out on June tenth. It was directed by the young, brilliant director Nadia Hagren. This uh African, Porto Rican, all kind of flavors in there also. I mean, she is it. Her vision is so incredible. I mean it followed me for eighteen months during a pandemic where we had not heard of George Floyd when they started filming. We had heard of Amadar, but but hadn't heard of Brianna Taylor at the time.

And she is capturing all this footage intensely while we're dealing with these families and so many other things like banking, while black environmental racism, fighting for the black farmers doing and she, more than anybody else, just understood the moment. This isn't just a documentary for today. This is a documentary as Kenya barrass and I who's the producer, created Black and said, this is a documentary for our children. Yet I'm born. I'm so glad you're here because there

was a call that we got. I don't know if you were here, Envy last week, but somebody called it and they were talking about Larry Nassar and how there's this lawsuit against the FBI because of Larry Nasar, and how they knew about the cases against him but they didn't act on it, and somebody called it and they were like, well, this is discussing what is money gonna do? Why do victims need money if they're truly victims, and

this is just a money grab. So I know this is something that you, as a civil rights attorney, can speak to. So I would love for you to talk about that when people try to say, oh, they're just trying to get some money, or he's just chasing money and trying to fatten his wallet. I tried not to listen to the hate as much because I understand my mission. My tad. She's saying, now you gotta go back out on crump, I'm like, I don't have the time because

I'm so focused on the mission. The mission is trying to say to people, psychologically and consciously, to American society that no, no, we matter, We deserve equal justice. When you have a wrong against us, we have a right, not only based on the Seventh Amendment of the United States Constitution, but just based on common sense. We have a right to send the message that you can't do

this to us and get away with it. I'm representing a lot of black and brown people in Los Angeles County at McClaren Hall, which was a children's shelter in Los Angeles for fifty years, black and brown children were being raped and sexually molested in the county just looked the other way. It's been all these years, and now California because of things that were happening in bart Scouts in the Catholic Church said we're gonna give you three years.

Anybody who was molested in those things when you were seven or eight years old, you have a right to come forward. Think about those people. Yeah, the only thing you can get his money. You can't go back and give them their innocence back. But when you have that civil compensation, it makes the county pay, It makes the corporations paying those type of things. And like we say on the trailer of Civil if anything America understands, it's

money capitalists, it's capitalism one O one. And when you start making people pay, then they change their conduct, or you keep going until it becomes financially prohibited for them to be able to afford to treat black people and brown people like second class citizens. Now let me chime in on that though, right quick. Because he gave you to Martin the which always say I'm Malcolm and he's marks before you go, yeah, because you know I'm about

to go. There's a lot of people don't have the knowledge. Right. So sometimes people call here or see articles and they say Attorney Benjamin Crump is an ambalance chasing, right. He chases just to make money or the fat in his pockets. Right. And when Ted came up here, she spoke so eloquently about you don't solicit anybody. Yeah, people have to reach

out to you. And many times people reach out to certain other attorneys or other anywhere anybody else and nothing gets done, and they don't sit get done two until you step on the stage cause a day. So now yea, now talkyo, Yeah, I'm a better talk about so yeah. So to the dumbbos in the comments, I'm speaking directly to them. And again this is not a reflection of Attorney Crump. These are my own statements. When people say it's not about it's all about the money, first of all,

that makes no sense. Only five percent of Attorney Crump's cases are police brutality, that's number one. Nobody talks about one hundred million dollar lawsuits that he's been able to get for folks who are alive and well the six hundred million dollar lawsuits he's been getting alive and well, America or any government has never paid for the value

of black life. And so I find it amazing that the same people in the comments that will sue McDonald's for a slip and fall feel that it is not It makes no sense if someone takes your life and you feel that that family should not deserve compensation for their children that's been left behind. What are they supposed to exchange Roman noodles like in the pen. The only

thing we have is the money compensation. But to ignore the fact that Attorney Crump pushes for the criminal punishment, to ignore the fact that policy actually comes out of these cases. When you talk about the bround, the Taylor Law, when you talk about the and andre Hill law, when you talk about one hundred cities that have now enacted police reform since the murder of George Floyd, it has been because Attorney Crump and a few others and I'm saying a few, just to be generous, have brought these

cases to light. There are billions of dollars every year that are settled based on police brutality. I ask people, why is it that your local attorney and your hometown never wants to take these cases. Why is it? It's not certainly not for a lack of advertisement. Every commercial year, every day is if you've been injured in an accident, if you've been into accident, So why don't they take those cases? Angel? That's the qua I ask people, why don't you see them with? The answer is in which

you point this out in the film. They do not want to upset their DA. They don't want to up set the governor, they don't want to upset their chief of police. They do not want to be black balled and send the death threats for pennies. And I'm gonna say this and I'll be quiet. When you look at these cases that attorney Crump takes or any civil attorney, these cases take years, two, three, four or five six years.

You don't earn a dollar. So I would ask anybody in the comments, are you willing to work for forty hours a week for three to four years straight? Maybe maybe not get compensation at the end. It just makes zero sense. It doesn't add up. The MAV doesn't math. So when you hear those comments amulance chasing, no, everybody say that tells their loved one in the amulance. I'll use one story Morrowbirt, a case I worked on in

twenty fifteen. The stepfather Monrobert said, do not. I don't want being Crump because the family called me first, because their son was being dragged off through the media. They called me first. He said, I don't want being Crump. I don't want none of that coming down because he's an ultra conservative Tulsa, Oklahoma, ultra conservatis black man, but conservative.

But once his son got started getting dragged in the media, then it was can you call a turn the Crump because nobody was willing to stand and change the narrative. The narrative that has changed in the media affects the jury, it affects how they make those decisions. And so now seven years later, they're passing the Monroe Bird Law. And that's the stuff that people don't keep up with us. The free I Heart Radio app has over two hundred

and fifty thousand podcasts to explode. Yes, this is the Breakfast Club thirty part of Sunday Night podcast on iHeartRadio. We're still kicking It with Attorney Benjamin Crump, Teslin Figuo and Nadia whole green that discourage you at all, Like, no matter what, you out there to do good right. And then so when you got people and people that look like you that you're fighting for and they go at you, does that discourage you at all? Ivy, I try to be a student of history. Thirdgood marsh has

my personal hero Martin, then Malcolm. These are the MLA people. Don't understand that they were hated mostly by black people. You know, we have this revision this history that everybody loved them, but when they were at their peak, they were the most hated people in America by both white and black people. And so I always try to remember that and say, God, I know what mission you put on my shoulders, and I'm going to use these blessings, these influences to try to affect a better world for

our children. And I'm never discouraged by anything. As we said in the family, don't be a spectator. If you feel you can do something, get in the arena. The easiest thing in the world to do is to sit at home and be a critic and don't do anything else. The hero is the person who puts themselves out there, risk their reputation, their family, safety, and even their life,

and say this is about more than just me. We have these banking while black cases where we have recovered millions, hundreds of millions of dollars for black people over two hundred millions of beings. Let's put the number out there so they can in the comments. And it's so astonishing to me, Envy and Angie, that people would say, Oh, it's just about the money. What do you think banks and corporations are doing things for. Are they doing it just for charity? Are they doing it just because they

had nothing better to do. No, they're doing it for the money. And so when we take on Whales Fargo, who we are currently fighting now because they were denying black people mortgages during a pandemic where the government had gave an opportunity, and I digress. I gotta say this, y'all absolutely doing the pandemic because they were worried about the economy. The government gave historic incentives to decrease the interest rate for home loans lord than they had been

in seventy five years. Y'all understand for poor people in middle class people, the quickest way to gain wealth and equity is to be able to purchase a home and pass something more to your children and their children. That's how you get wealth accumulated. Well, even with all of this,

Where's Fargo? Where's the nine Black people? White people were getting incredible incentives to increase their wealth by saying you got a two percent interest rate, you might save a million to two million dollars just because you were able to refinance. They said, no the black people. And so now I can where about the Negroes in the comments? So I can go say no, where's Fargo? You probably stop black people from getting a billion dollars in equity.

So guess what being Crump gonna do. I don't care what you say. I'm going to get those black people that billion dollars. But now let's talk to you, because this is a spicy room if you haven't, so, let's talk about you. You directing this, and what made you want to do this film? Like most of us, I was sitting home during that time when everything was happening in America, the pandemic, George Floyd's murdered, and I'm like, I'm a filmmaker. I need to be out there doing something.

And then I get a call from Kenya Barris and He's like, I've been working on something with Ben Crump. We want to make a documentary. Do you want to get involved? So grab the camera. Just got on the role with Ben, and I just knew that this was a moment to document history and what was happening in America. And you also showed Bankrump's family, his mom. Now, why

was that important in framing this story? One thing I thought was so special when I met Attorney Crump was just who he is as a person, as an individual, his values, you know, at the highest standard at where that came from. Was that hard for you to expose that part of your life, because that's not something you ever do. It's very hard to expose your personal life. I will say this. My mom was here at the Tribeca Film Festival premiere and we grew up in the projects.

My mother raised me and my two brothers and her baby brother, working two jobs, I mean, doing everything for us. And it was so beautiful for my mother to see what she did. I mean, it's standing ovation. And then out of Times Square they got Netflix really has invested in this movie and they have a Billboy eighty foot off the ground on forty second and Broadway, and for my mom Mo to say we started in the projects

and that we're here. I mean, it's just a testament to a strong black woman absolutely saying I won't let this world destroy my children. And so my mom and my wife, my daughter, everybody in this film, they just kept it rare kep it too. How does your family deal with it? Because it's it's you know, it's like

anything else. Yeah, I mean, if you could just take all the negativity, it is all good, but it bleeds into your wife, it bleeds into your kids, and then you know, a test was talking the other day about the death threats. Yeah, how does your family deal with it? How are they okay? It's hard. Obviously as adults we understand what we're doing. My nine year old daughter watch the film for the first time yesterday and she said, Daddy, you got a death threat and she was very concerned

about it. And so we had that conversation about baby, Dad is out here fighting for you to have a better world, and sometimes people don't want to see our black children have an equal opportunity at life. We have to fight for our rights. We can never take stuff for granted. And she was like, but you didn't do anything wrong. I said, baby, I know that, and you will learn that some people feel that they're superior to

us because the color of their skin. And that's always a difficult conversation to have with young people because they want to see the best in the world. She was asking me questions, Man, she is terrified by these school shootings. Your children that have to deal with that trauma. What happens, dad, if it happens in our school, you know. So we talk about those things. I think about how my wife, my brothers, everybody in their minds, they are prepared that

it could happen. And we have to protect your family when you're on the road so much. I mean, they're constantly checking on them and everything. And that's the other side that Tas was talking about. My law partners, Now, we don't make that much money doing police brutality. We make our money from doing mass tours, saying class action work, stuff that you know is going up against these corporate titans. This police brutality. Civil rights work. It's something you do

because you care. Nobody does civil rights work to get rich. It's the least profitable division in my law firm. I pray so much that we can close down the police brutality the vision of the ben Crump law firm, because then that would mean tray Vine will get to live because somebody then profile him. Amad Aubrey. I mean all these young black people in the film now he has a part in, a fifteen year old, eighteen year old, in a nineteen year old in a week's time, all

get killed by the police, completely unjustified. But if we can somehow have them look at our children like they look at their children, then our children would get to live. And that's what I pray for, man, That's what I'm fighting. I've made enough money. I'm gonna be okay. My law firm would rather I just stopped doing the civil rights They like you did enough Crump. We can make money a lot easier and more of it if you would just quit doing the civil rights work. But I'm like,

then I would be selling out my soul. Now. It's about fighting for our children, man. I Heeart Radio for podcast Discovery. This is the breakfast Club theory. We go your chance to hear the biggest trending podcast each week from the free i Heeart Radio app. Still kicking it with Attorney Benjamin Krump, Teslain Figuro, and Laddia Holgrin. So let me ask you a question. Now, Ladia is the director, what's the biggest taket way you get out of this documentary?

What I hope envy is that when people watch this film they have a much deeper, nuanced understanding of what life is like in our communities than they ever have before, and that they understand the work that Attorney Crump does. You know something we spoke about earlier, just this idea that civil law and criminal law are actually two different things, and we were surprised in this film when we showed

it to people and they didn't understand it. So just to give people a basic understanding of how the law works as well. So it's an educational tool, but it's really to bring people in a show behind the scenes of what these cases are really like other outside of the press conferences and the new cycle tells you when to cris anybody else anything else the world. I just think I'll just echo you know, the world. It is important that people understand civil law and criminal law because

the prosecutors, I think intentionally sometimes lose these cases. We have never lost a police brutality the case, but people sometimes can't distinguish the two, and so I think not it does a good job or reminding people of what we should have learned in seventh grade Civics class, that the government is the only people can prosecute you and

put you in jail. And then the Seventh Amendment says, if you've had a wrong that you believe as big put upon you, you have a right to sue them, and if the jury agrees with you, you are entitled to compensation. And the law has some reason for that, because they don't want people trying to solve their disputes in the street by shooting and killing one another. No, no, you come to the court in law, and if a Jared agrees, then the only thing we can give you

is monitory damage. That's the accountability. That is the accountability. Before a text gives her final word, I do want to say that I know you've been inspired by Thirdgood Marshall, and you speak on it all the time. But I feel like after seeing this, kids will being inspired by you, and that's the thing that will make the next generation want to become active, become attorneys, become civil rights attorneys, and make sure that they do what's right. Absolutely, we

appreciate you. Thank you. I'll dropped the sick for the positivity encouraging me to be I will say this, and I talked about this in my last Breakfast Club interview on my Push the Line training that's coming up politics until something happens, I want to give a quick shout out to texts six six eight sixty six push the Line to six six eight six six. What is that about? It is about getting in the fight. What people should get from this documentary at the end is being Crump says,

get into the arena. I know who I am, and I know whose I am, and what does that really mean. You've got three ways to get involved. Now. You can just be in the comments, or you can get involved on the criminal side, to push for the folks get arrested, to push to end qualified immunity, like what happened in New York City, by the way, like what happened in Colorado, by the way. You can talk about making sure folks

get arrested. You can talk about the protest side. You can talk about the punitive damage aside, which is what attorney Crump does. Or you can talk about the policy, which is what I talk about, which is one over one hundred cities have passed some level of police reform that nobody talks about. We still have to push on the federal level for the George Floyd Justin Police and Act, but over one hundred cities have made some difference. The bottom line is you have every opportunity to be involved.

My logo push the line and has each person pushing one pushing the p to you, the S and the H. Nobody's paying attention to what's going on beside them. There's a child on the side that is watching with their fists up, watching what it is that we're doing. So you can push or you can talk. In the Bible, whether you are believing, I'm only talking to the believers, it says that at the end, you know, we talk about who's the goat, who's the goat, who's the goat,

Who's the greatest of all time? We love throwing that around in hip hop, but in the end, there is going to become a time where the goat would be separated from the sheep. What is the sheep? People say, the sheep is who follows and who does what man does. But in the Word of God. It says that the sheep is about the shepherd's business. So you are either

going to be about for the least of these? Are you gonna be one of the goat that are not here to serve those who have been in prison, to serve those who have been disenfranchised, to serve those who have been marginalized. And when it's time to make that accountability. And if I'm wrong that I don't have nothing to worry about. If I just disappear into existence, fine, But what if I'm right? Dj envy. If I'm right, there's

going to be the question what did you do? And the answer won't be Well, I was in the DM I told being he should do this. I told tell what did you do for the least of these? You've been challenged right now to do something one of those three four things. Don't worry about what's been doing, get the arena and get your squaw bone. It's plenty of people that's talking from the stands. We talked about that Friday, everybody at the game. But guess what, we don't all

play the same position. I've never once seen Lebron James turn around to the stand and say what y'all think I should do? Should I go? This? Attorney Crumb got a focus on playing the game, and then you got people like me that's on the sideline, on the bench cheering them on. Let's go, let's go, let's go off a cheerlead. All through school. My job was to say let's go, but to also challenge at the same time, saying, turn Crump, I don't really like that. I'm not feeling that,

but I'm on the court in the game. So if you just understands talking, you just understands talking, Let's start walking and let's be about our business. Here you go. Civil is out this Sunday, Tuesday, June teh, June teenth. Definitely check it out and we appreciate you guys for joining us tag Civil and Twitter. There's only one phone call that when they called, we always come to work and open up, and that's when an attorney Benjamin Crump calls.

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the game. Don't get out the shape man you are you, It's time to day. Donkey today does not discriminate. I might not have the song of today, but I got the donkey that So if you ever kill I need to be a donkey man. Give it with you. Breakfast Club bitches today Today smooth and bunby man. Donkey to Dave goes to sixty eight year old Shield of Downey of Memphis, Tennessee. Sleute to everybody who listens to us on K ninety seven and Memphis dropping a clothes bomb

from K ninety seven and Memphis in the sea. We appreciate you. Now. How do you like your coffee? Common question a lot of people get asked. I've never been a coffee drinker. My wife is not my thing. I prefer a good ginger tea with some honey as a pick me up in the morning. Are my Carviva sports drinker one of the two. I'm actually sitting here to siding which one I want right now. But I respect all coffee drinkers. Okay, A lot of y'all heard me

ask how do you like your coffee? And you answered, I like it black, straight black, no cream with sugar. Some of y'all want cream and sugar. Some of y'all like a dark rose. Some of y'all like a half calf water down because it makes you too jittery. Little oat milk really okay. Some of y'all like a little lighter, blonde rose. Some of y'all don't like to taste at all because it's too bit of Some folks like putting a little salt in their coffee. Have you heard of that?

She eat? Nope, put a little salt in their coffee because it blocks the bitterness. All right. There's a lot of ways to drink coffee. Personally, I don't dig it because I don't like the tasting. Someone not liking to taste of coffee is why sheland Downy is in jail today. See, she had an eighty one year old husband, and her husband even got into an argument with her over the taste of his coffee. Now, Angelie, you have a coffee business, right, yes,

Coffee uplifts people. Coffee uplifts people. This is a story of coffee upsetting people. Okay, if someone doesn't like the taste of their coffee, ye, how do you handle it? Try to get them a new one? Simple? Right? Yeah? I would think if someone didn't like the taste of the coffee, you would simply fix them another cup. When you're married, you would probably tell said person fix your own damn coffee. Then. Okay, if you don't like the way y'all made it, well, Sheila didn't either. Let's go

to Fox thirteen for the report. Police, Well, it started over the taste of coffee. But now one man is dead and his wife has been charged with his murder. Police say Sheila down and stabbed her husband to death yesterday at a home on Renwood Street, not before the victim died. Police say he told them that the two got in an argument over the taste of his coffee. He says, down they got angry and try to drink bleach. That's when he tried to stop her. She grabbed a

knife and then stabbed him multiple times. Police say that Downey originally drove away from the scene, but it was arrusted when she returned, the best part of waking up my ass? Okay, imagine getting killed because you didn't say that. Okay, my ass, y'all know what I meant at that. You know they say the best part of waking up it's folders in your cup. I said, the best part of waking up my ass. Y'all know what I meant, wake up? Wake up? As I was saying, okay, imagine getting killed

because you didn't like to tast of your coffee. Okay? And what if that coffee you was drinking was death wish? Do y'all carry that brandy? Death? Which coffee company? Right? Death wish? Coffee company? Better? Hoping prayed this man wasn't drinking their brand, because Lord ha mercy, that would be terrible promotion. Listen, one thing for sure, Two things was certain. I would never let anyone who bleach fixed my coffee, because if she can stand in the taste the bleach,

then clearly her taste budget is a questionable. But the reality is she was probably drinking the bleach because she wanted to kill herself, and when that didn't work, she got pushed to kill her husband. Look, man, let's be clear about something, because we do this all the time and regards the humans. This woman, Sheila, didn't kill her husband over nor damn coffee. Okay. When you get to the point where you kill someone over a cup of coffee, you reached your tipping point in life, and with that

person a long time ago. And folgers had absolutely nothing to do with it, all right. This woman was clearly in pain. This woman was clearly hurting over something. This is why I tell y'all constantly invest in your mental wealth, all right, deal with your emotional health fixed with in your head, okay, and in your heart. All right. Your

body is your temple. Your body is your house. And if you don't deal with what's in your mental will house, you can possibly possibly end up killing someone because of maxwell house. All right. What's interesting about this is Sheila probably could have used a cup of coffee your damn self, all right. A lot of folks anxiety goes to the roof. They don't get their coffee in the morning. All right. My wife doesn't like to do anything, and she will have an attitude until she gets a cup of coffee.

And there has been some research that shows coffee and caffeine may decrease anxiety symptoms, so Sheila probably needed a couple of Seattle's Best to take the edge off. All right. No matter how strong a person is, they always have a breaking point. And Sheila clearly reached her breaking point. And she will have to get the healing she needs in a state sponsor facility for the rest of her life. And I would like to note that this situation completely mixed.

The quote a bad day with coffee is better than a good day without it null and void. A bad day with coffee is better than a good day without it. That quote is nulling void, and that is complete bs. Sheila's husband had a bad day. He got stabbed multiple times and later died with his coffee. I'm just here to make observations people, Okay, everybody in line that Starbucks duncan and yee spot coffee upflips, people, carry on. Please let him Mark give Sheila Downey the biggest see huh

he uh, you stupid mother? Are you dumb? We still want to know what the best part of waking your ass up its? How do you wake as the best part of waking up my ass? All right, I don't even know why that sounds like that. But y'all know what I mean. You know what somebody says like such and such my ass. No, I don't know why. No, nobody's such and such as my ass. I don't know what. I'm not gonna gaf like me. You're not gonna gafl like me this morn I'm not gonna happen. I'm not

gonna what's gonna ask. You're not gonna do it. I'm not gonna let you do it. I'm not gonna let you do it. I'm not gonna let you gaff like me this morning. Nope, got therapy to day. I'm gonna do it. That should be a good hashtag, all right, everybody hashtags. Part of waking up my asste means favorite number waking up in No ass, that's not what I'll say. We didn't even say that. That's what it means to say. If you just said that under your breath, I heard you,

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