The Vice President Should Be...? ( Ruff Ryders Founders Interview)

Good morning angela ye, good money. He's Ammy Charlomagne, the god paste of the planet. Is Tuesday Tornado. What's happening, guys, what's happening? I'll be bright eyed? And what's she tailed this morning? Guys? No, I don't know, no, I it was I thought it was Wednesday when I woke up. I wish that means we'd be closer to the weekend, but it's not. A Yeah, goodness, right, So let's let's talk it out the best way we know how. That's

all right, that's right. What you guys do yesterday? Anything fun? Anything, anything, at all. Shut up, man, You know we ain't doing nothing this groundhog day every day, every day, okay, asking us what we do? Like you think, well, I'll be home. You're right. Let me ask you how you doing you? I know you're in Detroit. What you doing? Um? Well, you know, I'm handling some business here with my house. I have a house in Detroit, so I'm staying here.

But I have another house that has to get work done, so I have to go check on it and figure out how to move forward on the whole renovation process. And I was looking at some real estate. Okay, all right, well let's get the show cracking. We have the Dean family joining us this morning. The Dan family. Of course, Da and Chavonne are the one that founded Rough Riders. We signed DMX, the Locks, Eve, drag On, and the

host of others. Yeah, if you go watching the incredible BT docuseries about No Limit on BT, the next docuseries they're doing, I'm sure you've seen the commercials is the Rough Riders that starts tomorrow. Tomorrow. Actually yeah, all right, well let's get the show cracking. Front page news. What we're talking about, Well, let's talk about Chicago, please, have arrested more than one hundred people. And that is all after a shootout and then looting downtown. All right, we'll

get into that next. Keep it locked. This to Breakfast Club. Good morning, Good morning. Everybody is dja Envy, Angela yee, Charlomagne the guy we all the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news. What were starting you, Well, let's start with the NFL. At least sixty six NFL

players have opted out of the upcoming season. They have until Thursday at four pm Eastern to decide, and what they had until Thursday to decide, and after the deadline passed, they said that out of the two eight hundred and eighty players, sixty six shows to opt out, the saying that number could be higher because other places have reported

it was sixty seven players. Cool makes sense, right for your safety and family safety if you have any type of things that might affect you all right now, confirm coronavirus cases in the US children rose by ninety percent and about four weeks this summer. So now there's three hundred, three hundred eighty thousand cases of coronavirus amongst children in the United States. As we were all trying to figure out what's going to happen with kids going back to

school this year. And another thing that has people outraged. Deputies pointed guns at three black teenagers. They're the ones though, that were attacked. Now, this video was posted to social media and it showed them being detained at gunpoint in Santa Clarita Valley after they were attacked by a man with a knife. So the video was posted on Instagram and by Tammy Collins, who was the mother of one

of the teens. She says her son and his friends were sitting at a bus stop when they were attacked by a homeless man who asked them for drugs then pulled a knife on them. Deputies were caught to the team by bystanders, and those bystanders didn't include the manager of a restaurant that was nearby, and they were trying to get help for the boys. All of them were black and when the police came, they had at least

two guns. The teenagers had two guns pointed at them and the deputy commanded them to back toward them with their hand raised and then they were handcuffed. Here is what one of the mothers had to say, thinking to myself. Thank God, my boys did not flinch or whatever scratch because I felt like all he needed to see was build move in it. All the news is starting to sound like groundhog Day. Everything is starting to sound redundant.

And it's so nuts to me that, you know, in this climate, when police officers absolutely know all eyes are on them, it's they turned up on the bs. They didn't even try, you know, to to do better. All across the country. You would think that they would say, you know what, let's let's do better based off things that we've been seeing in the news. George Floyd, Brianna Taylor, et cetera. It's like they turned up on the byes even more right, really sad situation. Imagine you're the victim

of a crime. You've already had a knife pulled on, you've already been attacked. You call the cops because that's what we're about to traumatize, and they point guns at you. You're traumatized. They need to really change their model from the protecting to serve. There's something else because and if they all here to protecting to serve, and ain't it

ain't an interest of black people? All right? Donald Trump briefly had to leave a press briefing after there was a shooting near the White House, and here's what he had to say. Oh, then and there was a shooting outside of the White House and seems to be very well under control. I'd like to think the SHI Service for doing They're always quick and very effective work. But there wasn't actual shooting, and somebody's been taken to the hospital.

I don't know the condition of the person now. When they pulled him off the stage right there was this noise. Was that a chopper going off with that was those cameras flashing? I think that they pulled him off the stage, Yeah, I think he sure, Oh yeah, it was cameras. And I'm surprised. I'm surprised he didn't walk out there. You know, he's a type to be like, I'm not scared to walk out there. I'm surprised I didn't have un don't play and exactly that is not who the type of

person he is. He gotta hide the first and then he got to walk out. He gotta walk out. I wasn't scared he might do that. On Wednesday, Wednesday, Thursday, when the coast is really clear, the coast. Okay, No, he won't even walk across the street without security. And he is the president. Ye I mean, come on, president won't walk by security. Well, he's not gonna go outside when he hears and he's also not gonna go outside when he hears gunshots. None of us will. I would

hope not night. I mean that's what I'm saying. He's not gonna go outside because hey, what's going on out here? He's gonna go to he goes today, closest click, he's gonna go today. I wasn't scared telling you all right, well I'm ansi la yee. And that is your front page news. Get it off your chess eight hundred five eight five one oh five one. If you need to vent, hit us up right now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. This is your time to get it

off your chest, your man. Thank you from you on the Breakfast Club. But you got something on your mom. Hello, who's this? This is Jennifer. Hey, Jennifer, good morning. I was just wanting to say thanks for always spurting, strting the positivity, keeping it real. I love to hear that,

and personally I live. I'm from the Indy area and um so one of our schools the kids were back for a couple of days and yesterday was their last day because there's so many COVID cakes spreading right now, And personally, I chose to keep my daughter at home and do e learning for the first semester just because you know, that's what's important to me and my son. He has a heart condition and stuff like. That's why I didn't want to risk it. But it's just nuts, right,

there's a hard decision to make as a parent. My daughter was upset with me because of course she wants to go back. She's ready, exactly, but exactly, it's tough, and um, I just you know, pray for all those parents out there because I know it's hard and um you know, but you know, we have the rest of our life to live, and um I think you know, taking a step back, you know, for a semester is the option they're given us at a time, and you know, isn't such a bad idea. Honestly, I don't know how

long it's gonna make it. Like I said, the one school in our district, yes d their last day, like because so many cases are spreading and I'm from a small city, so I can't even imagine the big city. Right. Well, thank you for that what she said. Just now, like you know when you got a daughter, Like I'm sitting there talking to my twelve year old last night and she's visibly upset if she's gonna have to be home you know what I'm saying, for the start of her

seventh grade yet. So it's like you're gonna spend most of your middle school time or junior high time, wherever you call it, at home. Bro, Today's my daughter's birthday and she wants a party with her class. It can't happen. My daughter, my five year old daughter. One day is Thursday. We gotta do it over zoom so they can say happy birthday to it, which is crazy my daughter. You know what I mean. But get it off your chill. I just tell my daughter at five, you don't have

no friends yet. Your friends eight turned seven eight five eight five five one. Get it off your chances to breakfast club, Good morning, the breakfast club, Wake up, wake up, wake y'all your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're man or black, we want to hear from you on a breakfast But Hello, who's this? It's cute barter whatever, Get it off your chests, Hue Butter, Hey man, yeah, man, sill I was. I wanted to get in there and get off my chests about these these companies with these

fine prints that it get you. Man. Um, I was ahead this little side hustle um to where I was renting my cards out and then one of my cards got wrecked and they wouldn't paid for it, even though I had their premium insurance. You know, I did everything I was supposed to do and they ripped me off. Um. It's another one. Even with being a season ticket on them, you gotta pay for the seats, and you gotta pay

for the tickets every year. But guess what if you want to take a year off, they still gonna get you because you know longer own seats. All of a sudden, it's pretty I don't know what are you talking about? Me neither, but I have a good day. But you're playing a little bit lost all the way when you when you're a season ticket owner and you gotta pay for the seats, correct any seats, any team, you pay for the seats. Okay, yeah, so even even if you

paid for the seats. If you say, you say you wanted to take a vacation that year and you couldn't come. You you you don't own the seats anymore, because they're gonna give them away and try to selling somebody else. It's like a time ship. You can't. You can't. You can't sell your seats to somebody else to use them while you're gone. Yeah, you can't. They just take it away from you now. They don't know that, Yeah you can.

How do they know if you're going, if you're going or not, if you're a season ticket holder, because they give your book of tickets and you gotta pay for the seat, right, it's it's a time, it's a it's a deadline to where um, you have to pay for those tickets. If you if you refused to pay for the ticket, or you say I don't want to pay for the tickets this year, they're gonna they're just gonna take them away from you on the seats any more. Yeah,

you don't understand. But if you're not gonna but if you're gonna pay, if you know, if you don't pay for them, yeah, you're gonna get no tickets them anymore. I'm sick. If they call you an owner of the seats, then yoused to own the seats. They supposed to be your paying for them though, yeah, you're pay for them still, of course you don't own that arena or that own it permanently. Now I'm not gonna lie. I'm kind of

I'm kind of I'm kind of with him. I thought that when you buy a season tickets, that's your seat for the whole year. It is, it's why you're paying. But he didn't pay, and then the next year if you don't pay, you can get the ticket away from you. Oh he's talking about the whole next year where he didn't pay. Yeah, he says, why do they man owner of the seat too early for this? Yeah, you have a good one. No, good luck with that season ticket holder.

I mean season can't just pay for one season and then think you have them for the rest of your No, but it says owners, So I owned the seat forever. It's not a life, not a lifetime. You're not a lifetime ticket holder. You're a season ticket holder. Okay, that's why they're saying life things coming to your life for reason. Seasons and lifetimes sometimes the reason there's somebody gives you a courtside seat to sit in. Sometimes the reason that

somebody gives you tickets to go. Sometimes the reason is you bought a season ticket. And I don't think there's no lifetime to Is there a lifetime ticket? Older, No, I don't think so unless you if you own the team, you are. But other than that, no, get it off your chest. Eight hundred five eight five one oh five one. We got rumors on the way, ye, yes, and prayers up for Lakeith Stansfield. He was posting Lakeith Stanfield. He was posting and there's some disturbing things and so hopefully

he is okay. Also, NICKI MNAs versus asap Ferg. NICKI MNAs fans are having an asap ferg is over party. We'll tell you why, all right, we'll get into that next. Keep it locked. This to breakfast Club. Good morning the breakfast club. This is the rumor report with Angela. Ye breakfast Club, well it if here's l Keith Stanfield was going through it as he posted some pictures and the

videos of himself. He said, I like to be by myself because I can hurt myself and no one tells me to stop or fix like they care, and he posted a video of himself pouring liquor into a pill bottle. All right. Then he posted bottoms up, and he posted a bottle of pills, and then he said reality is boring and moves too slow and no one is trustworthy, and he posted the pills again, and then he posted outside is crazy. I'm gonna just stay inside from now on,

and then he said I'm okay everyone. I appreciate everyone checking in on me, but I'm good. I'm not harming myself much love, therapy, therapy, therapy, Listen, God bless that brother. It's a dog time. Whatever you need to do to stay mentally and emotionally healthy, do it. I wonder about situations like that, like when you get online and you know you post that you may be going through something mentally.

If you don't receive the love, right, if you don't receive a bunch of people hitting you saying yo, we care about you, don't do that. If it's the opposite of that, I wonder if that will push you over the ledge. That's why I don't recommend people taking their problems to social media. But man, I guess when you don't have nobody else to reach out to. That's where

you go. I guess, yeah, right, Or sometimes maybe you were drinking or took something and you are kind of not in control of what you're doing, you know, like, yeah, it could it could be that. Just you know, you get drunk and you start tweeting, or you're you took something and you're a little out of it so you start tweeting. It could be that too. Yeah, that's dangerous. That's dangerous because you get you get one or two or twenty bad tweets, people telling you, yeah, I kill yourself.

I might really push you over the edge. So I wouldn't recommend taking my problems to the social media, not at all, not at all all right, Well, he did in prayers for Laki Standfield, so want him to be okay. You know, we just saw everything with the Zelia banks play out, So whatever issues people are going through, we love and support and we want to make sure that you are okay. All right. Phil Collins song in the Air Tonight is on the top of the charts after

thirty nine years since it's been released. If y'all need a refresher or maybe never heard the song, here's what it sounds like, yeah, why is it at the top of the Charles now? So it's number three right now after Waping Bears and Sunshine by Darius Rucker. And this is all because of a video that went viral. Twins the new trend. So these twin brothers, they're twenty two years old and they do these reaction videos where they

show their reaction to certain songs. So this was a song that they reacted to on their later video, so they heard it for the first time, right, yeah, So they said, because we're black and they don't expect us to listen to that type of music. It's just rare to see people open these days. People don't open up to step outside their comfort zone and just react to music that they don't know. So they've reacted to all

different types of music from different genres. They started off just doing hip hop videos where they would react to hip hop songs, but then they took a suggestion to try out Frank Sinatra and then they've gone into different genres since then. First of all, first of all, young twenty two year olds, all right, don't speak for yourself.

All right, we've been on field college. He didn't eight, okay, right, whatever the hell is it you've been on the door and they he didn't that, he didn't that with a TV show. But but my point is, we've been listening to that Phil College record. That's not nothing new, okay for us. Don't just say, don't say black people don't

listen to that song. That's not necessarily They've been listening to all kinds of They didn't say just that song, but they've listened to everything from Pantera to Rage Against the Machine, the Carpenters. Now that's white, Okay, Phil Collins got that's all got too much soul, way too much soul. All right? Let what group was? What group was Phil Collins in? I don't know. I don't know either, what

you know. I listened to Genesis. I listen to all kinds of music too, especially from back in the day of the classic Though. It is that episode that they shelved on Blackish is going to be coming to huluis the Please Baby Please episode? And Kenya Barris announced the news on social media. He said, in November twenty seventeen, we made an episode of Blackish and title Please Baby Please.

We were one year post election and coming to the end of a year that left us, like many Americans, grappling with the state of our country and anxious about his future. Those feelings poured onto the pace, becoming twenty two minutes of television that I was and still am incredibly proud of. Please, Baby, Please didn't make it to air that season, and while much has been speculated about its contents, the episode has never been seen publicly until now. So it's going to be available on who is now

available on Hulu. Okay, I'm gonna check that. Guys wanna watch it? Yes, me too. I didn't even realize and Nicki minash fans are upset at Asap Ferg. They said he didn't send website sales for movir hips to Billboard, so they started trending. Asap Ferg is over. Not sure how all of this happened, but the barbs win and

they tried to. They went and ordered the song, so they said Nicki Minaj's website pulled thirteen point three thousand orders and Ferg had over sixty six point seven thousand orders, and somehow, some way they only got fifteen thousand website sales due to bundle buying, and they said furg sixty six thousand is nowhere to be found. So their issue is that that song they went really hard to make it number one and higher up, but it only hit

number nineteen on the Billboard, had one hundred. So now they're going crazy on asap Ferg like he's the person that submits sales personally. Question, how the hell they know asap Ferg didn't submit his sales? And since when do you got to submit sales? I want to sales when you're trying to get on an election. Sounds crazy? Well, they said, because it was only fifteen thousand in website sales,

so you know all that information is public. And they said that they bought Yes, they do all right, yeah, wire so fans involved in the business. And how do we know that the information is correct? I mean, I've never heard of somebody having to submit sales. I don't. I mean, I don't know anything. But the most artist I'm show wouldn't do that. Most artists. The label does that. The labels submits to sales, that's the whole team that does that. Why does the label have to submit sales?

Don't when you buy something digitally, it's tracked already. It's not bro I don't know, but these are website sales, so maybe it's different. I don't know. Look, I don't even know if they're correct. I'm just telling you why Asap ferg is over was turning in what happened and what their accusations are. Goodness, people are nuts. All right. Well I'm any la yee, and that is your rumor report.

All right, we got front page news coming up. What we're talking about, Yes we do, and we are going to be talking about these young black boys who they called the cops and and the cops came and pulled guns on them even though they were the ones reporting a crime who did not commit a crime. All right, we'll get into that next. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Ye, Charlomagne the guy we all the Breakfast Club. Let's getting some front

page news. Well, let's start with Santa Clarita. There was outraged after our video was posted to social media. It shows three black teenagers. They were being detained at gunpoint after they were the ones who were attacked by a man with a knife. Now, this video was posted on Saturday on Instagram. Apparently these three teenagers were sitting at a bus stop when they were attacked by a homeless

man who asked them for drugs. Then that homeless man pulled a knife on them, so the cops are called to the scene by bystanders, and the cops ended up playing a gun on the three black teenagers who were the ones who had been attacked in the first place. Now Here is Lisa Gray. She is the mother of one of the teenagers. My boys did not flinch or state because I felt like all he needed to see was build move an itch. You don't even had to say black. You could have just said, guess what race

it is? Everybody knew they was black. It only happens to blood. The La County Sheriff Alex Belneueva said this, I've seen the recent video involving a Santa Cretty incident which has gone viral, and I have concerns regarding the tactics employed. A call for service was received regarding a felony assault and the death is detained. Those allegedly to be involved. The matter is currently being investigated. Thank you for listening, and please stay healthy. Oh my god, he's

reading that verbatim on somebody crazy. The crazy part is he said it was a tactic. It has nothing to do with tactics. It has to do with perception. They perceive black people. It's threats at all times. Why, I don't know right what a traumatizing day for them? I'm sure an experience, all right, Chicago, please arrested more than

one hundred people after a shootout and looting downtown. They said there was a fit of violence that appears to have studied with police exchanging gunfire with a twenty year old man. Now, according to the mayor, Lurid Lightfoot, she said, it was deeply painful and this has nothing to do with the First Amendment right to peaceably assemble. She said, you have no right to take and destroy the property

of others. We will not let our city be taken over by criminals and vigilantes, no matter who they are and what they're doing. So people were arrested. They were charged with looting, disorderly conduct, and battery against police. They said police will maintain a heavy presence downtown until further notice. Downtown access is restricted now from eight pm to six am.

So with that limited access, that means all Cook County courts except for bond courts, are closed on Monday, Monday's cases will be continued in thirty and thirty will be continue thirty days. So bus and train service was suspended. Now people fed up. Man, economy is in the toilet, Unemployment at an all time high. All people have is hurt and paying to share and they will share it okay, period,

not making excuses to justifying what they did. But man, and some people out there that is really hurting now, a lot of people out there hurting a lot of people. I saw a video of somebody going live and they were trying to break in ATM machine. I've seen that and the academics posted that. I don't know why people do but what people do that it's not even that. But you get on your own live like, I mean,

you're telling on yourself. You like, not only are you gonna break into the ATM, you're gonna give the police the video to prosecute you to break into the ATM. You just would have just say clear view on the on the video. I think he wanted some direction. I think he needed somebody to get on that doing it all wrong? All right, how I get in? This is how you poked the break into this ATM machine. You

could have just googled. But you know, all right, a military veteran was serving a life sentence and that was for selling less than thirty dollars worth of marijuana. And he will soon be released from prison. Eric Harris, he was arrested in two thousand and eight in Louisiana. He sold an officer points six nine grahams in marijuana and he just recently was resentenced to time served. That's crazy

for selling thirty dollars in marijuana. He was convicted and sentenced to fifteen years in prison and then re sentenced in two thousand and twelve to life in prison under the habitual offender law. Yeah, that judge, it seemed like that judge should go to jail if he sold thirty dollars worth of marijuana, and they said they served him with life. That judge shouldn't go to jail like nobody's to mention, he had problem that started. Sadly, she's only

Sentenzen based off the law. The laws need to be changed. Well, he had a substance abuse problem that started when he returned from desert storm, and they said his prior offenses were non violent and related to his untreated dependency on drugs. The judge can't override that. If a man greys in marijuana, I don't think you should have been sentenced to that at all. If that was the case, they could have dropped into a lesser charge so he wouldn't be sent

this to life. Nah, that's not right. All right, Well that is your front page news. I'm Angela yee. Thank you, miss ye. Now when we come back, the Dean family will be joining us. The founders of rough Riders. You know, signed some of your favorite acts, from the Locks to DMX, to Eve, to drag On to so many more. We're gonna kick it with d Y and chavan when we come back, so don't move. It's to Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club, putting everybody's DJ envy. Angela yee, Charlemagne

the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got some special guests in the building. We have the Deans, d Y and Chavonne, the founders of rough Riders. Good morning, guys, Good morning morning, Good morning listen man. I thoroughly enjoyed the rough Rider Dot coumentary and right off top, I gotta say I'm happy y'all cleared up something I always wanted to know, and that's why why wasn't DMX in

the battle video with jay Z? Yeah? That was ugly. Um. You know basically what happened was, you know they we did the battle, when we did the battle over there in the Bronx. You know. The crazy thing is that I didn't have ex stuff published and stuff everything. I was doing this whole I was in the transition and getting his publishing and everything up and running, you know, just really doing a lot of other things. But they

was battling. I told Dame. I was like, Yo, Dame, we can't have no no filming on damn Mex stuff because we don't want nobody, you know, copyrighting and inviting his his lyrics and all that. So that's how it started. Dame was like, Yo, messed that up. I said, It's all good, I said, but we wasn't. You know, X had a lot of epic lyrics. So I was like, nine, we can't do that. You see this in this documentary too, because we had our footage. It was the documentary shot.

When did y'all shoot that documentary? We shot it in nineteen. What's your relationship with DMX now? Because I've seen it in the documentary. He seemed upset because he though he was gonna get a percentage your Rough Riders. But then during the battle, I've seen you guys at the battle. So what's the relationship now with with X? I mean, he ready here, he ain't here, but he's over here with us right now. We're doing this album as we speak,

so as like like a little brother. No matter how much he gets mad and things happening, we picked it and straighten it out. So it's all family here. You're never really going to add too many authors that we deal with. When it's a real problem, we try to fix it and keep everything in the house. Well, I know when people watch this, they won't have seen that documentaries at all yet. So I want to talk about

Rough Riders. And you guys are getting started because DMX was your first artist, But you guys didn't start off as music industry as a music industry family. So let's talk about how Rough Riders even got started. It started with a basic conversation with Heavy D rest in Peace. Heavy D. You know mom Very in New York. We lived in mom Very in New York, Huffy and all these guys. Basically I told him, said, yo, heaven. Let

me ask your question. He said, well, he said, I said, I want to UM, I want to get into this music business. How we can get out of the streets and into the music business. So he was like yeah, he said, get an artist you believe in, make hits in the industry come to you. I said, that's it. I said, he said, yeah, that's it. And my man Tiny was with me and he gave me the cassette. He was like, well, I got dm Mexican set tape right here. So when he gave he gave it to

have have gave it to me. He was like, yes, this is your first artist. So I popped it into three hundred X. From there, you know, I went straight to c dm MAX. From there and to Yarkis and that's how our journey started with DMX. I know Puffle was sick. He didn't sign a DMX though I know Puple. Yeah, a fun fact. Let me give you some fun a fun fact going back and where we started. So by King didn't express to you that, and he started with

the artists first prior to DMMAX. And when we did in the um go for didn't hit with that artist. That's when we went into a rap game. And then the second fun fact is that Puffy's parents and our parents grew up together. The relationship, how we forged a relationship with Puffy and Puffy wasn't responsive to us because of our parents and his father and our father were best friends. WoT to think about that side, and X like, damn, I missed that. I gave an opportunity. I gave it

to him a play. Yeah, I was with Puff and we was in California in his house because we had was on tour with him with the Locks of Mace, and I was like, yeah, you need I say this is He's probably like one of the best out of the pick of the living that we have. He was more into Shaney suits and dancing with Vasacchi and all this technical so he didn't feel x X was gritty. He didn't see him until the world saw him, and it was too late because he definitely, you know, he

missed that training because he had him first. Literally, But he didn't take y'all about speaking on any of the streets in the documentary. They didn't really asked me about. I wasn't hesitant. I would have if they asked me, I would have told him, But it wasn't really enough once that we could tell them it's just street, the same thing that everybody else was doing. I was in the street, was hustling and trying to make money to do other things to get out the streets. And that

was it. You know, that's I mean, they ain't gonna get no more than that, Charlotte Mane, don't worry about that. But I'm talking about more so, how y'all got people out of contract y'all sitting at a couple of people like that. There was one line with the dude was like, I ain't never been shot before and you told him because you ain't never been shot by me. It was in the documentary. Did you watch it? Look that was on I adn't see it, but that was on the

Sad Street. I ain't give him that. Yeah that's the guy. Yeah, Charlotte man I liked that one. I wasn't a good one. It was it was the one day and it was the locks, and it was in a contract with these guys and they was young, and they signed all his paperwork and he didn't want to let him out, and I was like, you're not doing nothing with him, So you know, you know, the best thing to do is we're gonna help him get to where they gotta go

because you're just holding them hostage. You're not even doing music no more. So I think the best thing to do is um to just let me and my brother take them and so they can try to, you know, become the artists they want to be, because you're just holding them and you ain't doing that. So we was talking. He was whatever, and he you know, he was with his little cree. He felt comfortable and his man stepped in. It wasn't even him. His man stepped in. Butere he

ain't scared. I said, he ain't gotta be scared. He said, he's been shopping for us, but they don't gonna even do with me. He didn't get shot by me, else he wouldn't be here. And that made him relinquish that deal fast. I mean, he kind of thought about it, and he was like, all right. I knew him though, because the guy that that had him, I kind of know him. He was from the area where he was from, but he was a good kid. He wasn't the street kids. So he just happened to be smart, savvy and get

them to sign and they believed in them. So it wasn't like I didn't know him at all. I know him. We didn't know him, so we just have to go down a little bit them out. You have to die them out at all, or did like what if they had been like let the right if you give me X amount of dollars, then yeah, we really did that if it was something reason more peasable. While we was handling all the paperwork. While you probably found out we ain't pay nothing for that that we didn't. We just

we signed. We got dmmax out of this deal. We paid a lot of people visits. Basically, you know, we trying to get out of these streets. Were like, Yo, listen, y'all, y'all gotta do what y'all gotta do, you know, get get this deal done. They ain't doing nothing like these said. It's it's a tough deal. I did the paperwork, got pressed these casts. We did it together. It was just fun as a survival tactic. You know, I'm just trying to get out of the street and get into something legit.

All right, we have more with the rough ride of Founders when we come back, so don't move. It's the breakfast Club. Come on, DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Now we're kicking it with the Dean family, the founders of Rough Riders, d Why and Huvane. Now I didn't see all the episodes yet, but did y'all breakdown what happened with the locks and Diddy and how y'all got the locks out? That contract he got with pup On Well PuF, like my sister said,

his father and my father were best friends. So that was kind of a little easier because we went in on the on the way of a family. You know, we didn't go in as we're taking anything. We just his family. So my father told me that he was best friends for his father, So we kept it business and court going. We we kind of got together as family and we worked it out and he was like, all right, no problem, and he was able to um he said, he said he'll do it because I helped

him out. He had a situation on time and it probably was with Sugar and his family. So you know, Sugar was throwing his weight around a little bit. So I was like, all right, let's go see him. Anything a big deal for us, So you know, we fixed it and we fixed it out and it worked it out for him, so everything was cool. So he was like, yo, good looking and whatever. So with anything you need, let me know. So that's the favorite call was to release

the locks. But y'all, y'all had to y'all had to handle something sugar for the you know, we didn't we didn't handle it, but I was like, if you need us, so we can help you out of it the situation. He was like, all right, so you know, I'll let you know. But it all worked it so far and didn't get it escalated, so it was pretty cool. And what happened with with with Rough Riders, did you guys start focusing on other things or what it was, because at one time we had all these artists and then

it kind of just everybody started going everything. It almost seemed like one started doing merged and one started doing this, one started doing that. What happened with Rough Ride so as like with the with the artists or just the companies and label the label. So so basically what we was doing is we got on. We got on from Tough Jam Earth got to put us on in that situation. Then we went from then we you know, we did our thing with DMX and then from there we did

our deal with Jimmy Iveen and Interscope. So when we we we crossed over to open our label. After we did that, everybody was growing. You know, we helped people become their own bosses because we was the ones that actually set the tone for the three sixty deals. We was the ones that opened doors for multiple income streams and opportunities for the artists, and so we set up a lot of opportunities for them. But you know, he helped out over there getting into the movies over there.

You know that you had the same thing with X over on that side. We kind of like helped out from a far into those situations. And plus we had our own situations. We had our own production company, TV and film division. We had a lot of a lot of different companies because we was multitasking and building our brand. And then my brother had his bike accident. We was going through a transition and rehabilitate my brother and supporting him because that was more important than the music industry

of anything else. So we stayed focused on that. And then I was stuck and my sister was doing you know, she was doing rescue for a little bit, rough rise to the rescue, and then you know, we kind of like settled back and really just was regrouping. Ad in the doctor we said that you were actually pronoun was a day, and then I didn't realize that you was in a coma for three months. I didn't know it was it was that long. I know this might sound like a crazy question, but did you see what the

afterlife looked like? Do you do you remember anything? I didn't really see anything, but I guess as I was getting closer to coming through, I can hear things, but I know I wasn't there. I can still hear it, and there was people in the room, but it wasn't like I was able to respond. I was just laying there. But as I was coming closer to closer to coming out to coma, I started hearing things. So it was just dark for you, like sweet, we don't go baby.

It was a dog as health. You know why you said something earlier, You said that y'all were learning why y'all were earning, and then even watching the doctors like, man, I'm sitting there wondering, like how do black people from the hood learned financial literacy that fast in order to know what to do with all that money. There's a lot of greasy people, so when you hire somebody doesn't mean to something me in your in your corner where

they're supposed to be. So there was a lot of lying, a lot of stealing, a lot of that people don't know about. I won't mention any names. But we wasn't with a lot of good people. We wasn't with We didn't know that. We wasn't with a lot of good people. Let me say that we didn't know until we knew. But we had our ups and downs and it was really a learning curve. But it was a beautiful thing because we could have been locked up and doing life

and penitentiary or whatever. So this thing was like a true blessing for us to be able to make an exit out of the street game into a legitimate situation. But like I said, we was learning the game. We wasn't like puffing. Alan was intern under Andre Harral rest in peace Andre and Alam with Russell and all these guys they had. They was interns in the game, learning the game. So when they got their chance to get

the baton, they was able to maintain the presence. They knew who to work with, who not to work with, They knew how to flow. We didn't have an opportunity he was. We came straight off the street corner into the game. Oh I got a couple more. But did y'all ever really promise the MXIC piece of the company. You know, you know when I got DMX, DMX was you know, in those streets, running the streets, doing what he's doing. It was basically your X, I'm gonna come in here and do what I do. I signed him

under production agreement. I had to get him out of those production agreements he was in and then so I just signed him over the production. Everything is good as sweet and peaches and cream. And then you know, you know, once everything blow up and whatever, then everybody see things a little bit different. But this is all good. You know, things happen and life goes on. So we you know, we I had to chase DMX even for like years I had to go through To get DMX to dude

an album or do anything was unheard of. You know what, you know, you know what they don't know. And this is the crazy part because they think that most of the time you get an artist and you probably signed him in the matter of moment and they probably get a deal. This was a little different with XS. We had we was working with X. We wanted the end of ten years, well before we even got to do yeah, twelve years. We did a deal with Columbia Rough Foules that was a six nine month run. We did a

little We had a nine month wind. It was a single deal, single that you know. It was The Born Loser didn't do all that great, but it was an opportunity that was at one of our opportunities. After that, then we took us another six years or so to get in, you know, in a situation. Yeah, the songs before and so you played him in a documentary. I was like, I didn't even know. Yeah, before Chad Elliott did that, that Born Loser. He was one of the

first producers started working with us, you know. And then I brought eerv Gotti and he put me with EARV Gotti. Earv Gotti was a DJ, and I bought Eerv Gotti and from Chad Elliott. Puffy put me with Chad Elliott. Because Puffy was like, yo, I can't really, I don't have no producer. I can't really do anything. I'm too busy. I said, all right, cool, you got that you can

hook me up with. So he hooked me up with Chad Elliott, and then he hooked me up with with Erv Gotti and and then now so I signed Earv Gottia as a producer. Then we had him working with us and and and your man Um Chad worked with Swiss and XE. That's how we started. Yeah, he just never stopped working. We have more with the rough Ride of Founders when we come back. Let's get into a

rough ride as Mini Mix. Let's go. That was a rough ride as Mini Mix Morning Everybody, as DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne, the guy we are the Breakfast Club were still kicking it with d Y and Chavan Founders

a rough ride as Charlomagne. Was there ever any hesitation about going in business with X knowing he had a drug problem, nover no with he had a drug problem, But I don't think it would have ever been no business with him, Like hear my brother, they met and they weren't doing whatever they degreed on, and I don't know what the initial agreement was with them. So we were just still doing the music. But I don't think it was a problem giving them some of the company

or breaking them down with I'm not sure. I wouldn't have been no problem. I was working with X when he was when he was in the matrix that probably he was in the aalaxy. That's what I did. I'd always support X and did the right deal with him to make sure he was right. The crazy part is we were We was already dealing with X on crack eight years before we probably even got a damn deal, So that wasn't nothing. We were dealing with them mark that on the regular. Yeah, we just believed in them.

We believed it wasn't about drugs where X, you know, because we consider we consider you once you in your family, your family, you know. You know, we've been through with relatives and all that had drug habits. We were in the streets dealing with drug addicts every day. We didn't discriminate, you know. It was it's like, Yo, we was blessed to be able to have an opportunity to work with X and and get out of you know, and put this work, and a lot of peoples like, YO, how

are you gonna work with this guy? He got He's robbing people. He's doing all these different things, and y'all you wasting your time. I'm like, nah, brothers, So we're gonna work with him. That's just how I go. A lot of people told us we was crazy. It was like I don't even know where we was Like, I

was like, don't worry about he's good will work. When we got him, he was familiar, but he would have he probably would have never been as successful as he is if it was just regular people that wasn't familiar with going in buildings getting them out of cracked buildings like we did that we were familiar with. So it was just regular people, and he gotta feel like like as Sony or somewhere, they would have never been able to get him because you had to go through a

lot of things to get text. And this was years now, This wasn't the day. This was years and years. You gotta go get him out of the building, drag him out of here, bring him over there. So it was a lot of a lot of that way before we even got to the music. But you remember they battled years ago in the pool in the Bronx. So they battled. It was we called it a draw because they both was nice. So we said, all right, this is a draw. I felt like he won whole gonna feel like he went.

So it was an animosity there always. It wasn't nothing verbal, but it was just in his mind, like one, I'm better than you. So when Hope wounds up being a president of a depth gym, he felt that he had the answer to Ram and X thing like that, you know, because he don't feel like he's bettering him, like you're not nicer than me, I'm better than you. So he had some type of he felt some type of way about Hope dictating his future. Was the album really ready?

The album the album that was that death gym that Dave kept seeing wasn't ready? Wasn't ready? Was it ready? In y'all opinion? Wasn't ready? I think it was ready, but it took a little longer because of the budget. We wasn't able to get certain things done as quick as normally, like an interscope. And that's where he thought that Hope wasn't he was trying to sabotage him because he wasn't getting everything that he was getting that we was getting for interscope. So he was thinking he was

trying to sabotage. So it took us a little longer to get that album done because we was getting the album done, I was not an album out in sixteen days. Why do you think it didn't work between at a egos? That's it. It's simple egos. I don't want to stay with the other word. But who's who's whose pieces bigger than who's. But it's basically egos, which's crazy, But it's really each other. Like they were good, which which which

was crazy? Was it a mutual decision to leave Death Jam like it was the whole Rough Riders thing, like, yo, you know what actually all gonna be out? Yeah, we all mutually just rote. You know, it was just you know, it was time, you know, because that's what I told you. When the whole industry start downsizing and stuff like that, things turned left. You know, Jay z Anda was good

with deaf FM. They was able to negotiate their deal because when they negotiate their first deal, they you know, Deaf dam had some type of ownership in UM Rockefeller. That's whether Rockefeller and them was getting UM a little bit extra love maybe because they had you know, Deam has special interests in in that in that rock brand. But you know, we we seen we felt a little bit of favoritism going on. That's why we was expanding and moving on and doing other things outside of just

being in one house. And um, we did our time there and we moved on to the next. Well, the good part about death, yam, and I gotta give it the whole is that X was in X had um he was in debt over there. He probably old about twelve million. He had old him a lot of money over the depth gym through the course of years. And me and Hole got together and I went up to the office and the accident, I said, give you do me a favor and stead us signed X. Where we went to sign. I think he took him twelve where

we took him out. While when we took him from death Clean right over there, Sony, Yeah, we took him over there. But he let him and he released him. He wiped out the Death Clean and let him go with no money. He had to pay nothing back. So oh did do that? I remember that? So I gotta make sure I give respect them on that because you let them go clean with nothing. That's never play nothing back, no light exactly what's going to do that. Did that.

I was loved. But the crazy, the crazy thing about them deeff jam situation when Leo in Russell sold the company. You know, you know when you do train, you know when they start um selling companies and new ownerships in

the possession. And so they got this big debt over you that you don't know where this came from because now they got all these people leaving and now they have a new account financial team coming in and they're calling you you old you know, exol twelve million, this person old twenty million, this person or eight million, and so we do auder and they really did Jeff dam y'all old twenty five million. So now you know we have a situation here. So now you got to go.

So now you go through all this litigation fluff and our death game. Most of the team that was did they no longer there, so now you got to wait for five, six, seven years they go through them so they can get the books back and all this stuff

of craziness. So yeah, it's a lot of funny games going on with the book, with the books in the paper, the paper trail, you know the end that they old yall, we got it down broken down to like eight million, but it really had some more litigation stuff that had to go through, so we never really got to really fulfill that whole situation. But it was it was definitely

a loophole in that whole situation. We had a lot of a lot of lawyer fees and counting fees back and forth for like five six, seven years that we never really They old y'all twenty five million, but it came back twenty five million in the red. But then you know, as he was breaking it down, it came down to like eight million or so. But then we never really got to pursue the finalize of the whole situation because a bunch of other stuff popped in and my guy died and all that stuff. So it was

a whole loophole there. But damn, it's like it's easier to sell crack anytime, baby, That's what it times A little better, listen. I know, I know, y'all gotta god man, because but I really enjoyed the rough ride of docket. It is. It is hard to watch, though, especially DMX, because he's still got so much trauma. Man, So I just wonder how much responsibility to y'all feel to make sure he really gets the help he needs because that brother need healing. Well, we're good. We work for that,

you know, ex and ceiling. He's doing good right now. He's out here doing this album and the West Coast he working with on squits work. When don't bless you, we all working together. So you know he he x X, so you know he's blessed. He's in cards hands. He's gonna do his part. We're gonna do our part, and you know we're gonna we're gonna put in this work. You know, we gotta. We still got more work to do.

St This is just the beginning of the beginning. Well, thank you, brothers and this for joining us this morning. We definitely appreciate you. Thank you very much for having us. Thank you for having appreciate y'all. Be safe. It's about angela Ye Breakfast Club. Well. Billboard magazine put the Versus effect on their cover and they included Alicia Keys, John Legend, Babyface, Dmax, you can see Snoop Dogg, Kirk Franklin, Swiss Beats, and Timberland.

Of course front and center, Erica Badud, Joe Scott, but Beanie Man and Bounty Killer were not included. I always tell you that was my favorite Versus battle out of all of them. Now Swiss posted the cover on his page and he said to our fans, while we are honored that Versus made the cover of Billboard, this would not have been possible without Beanie Man and Bounty Killer, who said a big tone for our audience and represented for Jamaica. Thank you Billboard for the acknowledgement. But we

feel this version of the cover best represents the Versus effect. Now, be Anie Man posted on his pages and slam bill were Billboard Magazine for excluding him and a Bounty Killer from the cover art. He said, I guess Billboard is really that guy. If you recalled during the Versus battle, he was like, don't be that guy. When the cops came and tried to shut it down, he said, Mom, dancehall get its recognition. No matter how the impact, no matter the hard work, no matter how powerful the music is,

they them still try it every time. Then get a chance a time. Now, man, fix up, don't try undermine the thing dance Hall. He also said, big up Swizz and Tim, but this is what our genre face. Everybody f I don't know what f f W D and take peace and build up them thing and then do everything to undermine the genre dancehall where they got it from. Now.

Another person who was not happy was John Tay Austin because he was also not included, and he also listed to some other people that were not included on this cover as well. John Tay Austin said that The Dream wasn't included, neither was Neo or Sean Garrett, and neither was he. So here is what Swizz Beats had to say about the cover because we didn't even get to see that joint too today. I ain't know what was gonna look like. I've seen the cover and was happening

was bugging at the same time. I'm like, we gotta you know, no, that's what I was like. I know, I ain't known, Like no, that's all good. That's why we we photoshopped ourselves out and put Bounty and Bean in there, because you know, they did something that was super amazing. Today the reason why people in the room together now, UM, I understand why all those artists are upset. Beanie Man and Bonnie Killer should have definitely been on

the cover. So let's be clear Let's be clear, though, everybody that's in the verses is not going to make a cover. Like the cover story is probably gonna be the biggest artists or maybe the biggest verses. So you would have to put Beanie Man Bonny Killer on there, you have to put Ericabat, Dude Jill Scott. Then you have to throw some star power on there like Snoop DMX. Everybody wasn't gonna make the cover. That's just not how

covers work. Yeah, you know, and the biggest in particular though in particular though Beanie Man and a a Bounty Killer was a big one, like you said, been on it. And it also was the first time that they had two artists in one room. They had crazy energy. It

was amazing, and they represent it. So I can understand that, and I can understand also how Dan Sall gets continually disrespected here even though they've contributed so much, and so y Man and Bounty should have been on that that those are the two that missed that cover the rest of them, like Charlemane said, they're gonna pick the biggest

artist now. The journalists who wrote the Verses story for Billboard also talks about her role in the article because people were coming at her like she's the one that

chose the cover. Now her name is Naima Cochrane. She said, I wasn't going to respond, but this is like the tenth time somebody has accused me of disrespecting or omitting Beanie and Bounty, and nah, that's what we're not going to do, so she said, And to one person in particular, she responded, so ingrid Riley, I would encourage you to direct your ire towards whomever actually deserves it. It's not me. Yes, I wrote it, and they are prominently included in it.

I wrote about them. No, I didn't have any input in the cover, nor did I see it writers rarely, if ever do I saw it today when the rest of the world saw it. She said, Beanie and Bounty to the significance of sound class and then being a turning point of versus are in my story. So, just to clarify, she wrote the article, but she's not the person who did the cover art. Well, that's not her faults. You don't pick the cover, the cover, the cup. By the way, the cover is all about who's gonna sell

these magazines? Correct, nothing more, nothing less, all right, So that's just to clear all of that up, because I saw that was happening yesterday on social media. Celo Green in the meantime is talking about women in the rap game and he sings out Cardi b, Megan the Stallion, and Nicki Minaj. He did an interview that was publishing Fire Out magazine on Sunday and he talked about artists

sexualizing themselves in their music. He said, a lot of music today it's very unfortunate and disappointing on a personal and moral level. There was once a time when we were savvy enough to code certain things. And it was interesting because after this happened, a lot of people brought up these allegations. He had rape allegations against him previously. They also brought up his song Closet Free. Here's a snip bit of that. Everybody that's wrong. I scatter the bone.

They got it hitting the way he and Charlotte's sound. That's something not saying. You can't let those way make you that little bay be free and express yourself next and there's come naturally. It could be the way I want to fuck, the song tattoos on the way I dress, So going to be I want to walk my way and refusing the final round. When people ever been when you go, when you something? Now see what goes on to say, we could express to those it was meant

for with the style of language we used. But now music is shameless, it is share savagey. He then name jobs Cardi and Meghan and he says attention is also a drug, and competition is around Cardi being Megan the stallion. They are all more or less doing similar solacious gesturing to kind of get into position. I get it. The independent women and being in control, the divine femininity and sexual expression. I get it all. And then he said it comes at what cost? I don't understand the outreache

oval Wapi, Why Whop like in America's sex cells. Why are people acting like Whop is the song that's gonna make women become hoarse? Why has Whopped the song that's gonna lead my daughter to a life of sex work? Like why is this record in particular hitting such a nerve? Like I'm really confused about this? And Celo is from an era of Little Kim and Foxy Brown, Freaky freak Fast, Jacquio and Kaya and listen, don't get me wrong, when

you know better, you do better. But why are you upset that these two twenty something year old young girls are expressing themselves in that way? I'm really confused, Like, like, why is Whopped the song that has everybody so upset? I'm really trying. But he also talks about Nicki Minaj, and he talks about her platform and influence. He said

her position as a role model is ineffective. He said, you had the heads of state like Nicki Minaj or someone who is up there and accolade success, visibility, a platform to influence. Nikki could be effective in so many other constructive ways, but it feels desperate. Wow. I mean, I would say Nikki is constructive though Nicky empowers a lot of women to be bosses and you know, take

take control of their business. I mean, just because she dresses a certain way when she's performing, or shake her as if she's performing, it doesn't mean she's any less of a boss. I just don't understand why everybody's so upset, Like, does everybody here. The music that's been coming out in the last decade, the last twenty is the celebration of the drug coach or the celebration of the gang, coach

of the violence, all of it. Like I'm so confused, Like why is this the record everybody chooses to have a moral stand on, Like I'm I'm confused. I don't lost. For some reason, women and in particular Black women talking about sex. People try to shame that all the time, And I'm all for women owning their sexuality. Is putting putting out whatever images and whatever whereas you want to

put out, It's definitely true. I don't know because I mean, like I'm saying, like why this record, Like City Girl's been around for a while now, Cardi been around, Nicky been around, Meg the Stallion just got here, But why now? People have had problems with that also, people have had problems with Megan the Stallion's working, They've had problems with

City Girls and their lyrics. Like, I mean, it's just been an issue and an ongoing thing, don't We'll always talk about why do women always talk about these things by like we're not multi faceted and multi dimensional and like we can't talk about sex because everyone does it. It's not just in the hip hop, it's not just the women. So the only thing that offends me is men with peace. I want men with needs to do some push ups. Shut up, man. Sometimes it's nothing they

could do about that. That's you know, they're skinny guys that have some too envy. Yeah, my my breasts are going. It's almost sure. It's almost shut or whether for me? Baby? You see me do them sixty miles this weekend? Baby, I see you looking at me. Stop looking at me through the four making me a comfortable game? All right, and we got hot mileage. All right, Well I'm answering me and that is your rumor report. Thank you, Miss Yea. I just want to let you know my ride game

is crazy out right now. Okay, you're heard. We know how you got all them calls. I'm told by my bike. You asses. Now you gotta use what you got to get what you want o it bike bike Yo? Who are you giving you a donkey too? Man? We need Steve Hartwell from smash Mouth to come to the front of the congregation. We'd like to have a world with him. Y'all. Remember that old school group smash Mouth. Don't you smash mo? Hey, Now you're an all star believe okay, all right, we'll

talk about it. That happens next is the breakfast club. God morning, let's don't be a dusky because right now you want some real It's time for Donkey of the day. So if we ever feel I need to be a donkey, man, give me with the heat. Did she get don't get a day? Please tell me I had become Donkey of the day. Breakfast club, bitch, you're a donkey donkey today for Tuesday, all the celebth gold to Steve Hartwell. Do you know who Steve Hartwell is? Well, he's the lead

singer for the rock band smash Mouth. Y'all know who smash Mouth is? Don't you You You never heard smash Mouth? Let's play a couple of tunes. Refresh y'all memory. Now. They've been around for a long time, since nineteen ninety four to be exact, and clearly they don't give a damn about people, because they made an appearance at the Sturgish Motorcycle Rally, where it's being reported by TMZ that hundreds, maybe thousands of bikers pulled up to what will probably

end up being a knight of beer choppers in COVID. Now, it's very important to note that sixty percent of Sturgist residents were against the motorcycle rally that brings in thousands of people, but the city approved it because these people will always care about profits over you. When will we learn this? I keep trying to tell y'all this economy over empathy, and I guarantee the folks making these decisions

don't leave the house. The folks making these decisions won't pull up and kick it with you at these COVID friendly functions, but they don't care if you go. If you think I'm lying, explain this, okay. South Dakota local city council asked residents if they thought they should hold the event, not just residents, but businesses, state health officials as well as local health officials, and over sixty percent sixty percent of residents said hell no, debt it and

they did it anyway. You know why because Sturgist has a population of seven thousand people. With this motorcycle rally usually brings in crowds of about a half a million over ten days. They got drag, racist concert contests, all types of stuff. There's no way the city of Sturgis was gonna miss out on all that paper. Okay, for the white people listening, paper means money. Mulla scrilla, that paper that got slave slave owners on it. That's why

Sturgis had that rally. Okay, Now city manager Daniel Ainsley is saying they still had it because they kept hearing from people saying Corona doesn't matter, they are coming to Sturgis anyway. We've been locked up for months and months were coming out. So the city council ultimately decided that it was really vital for the community to be prepared because the additional people, that's all you want to be prepared for. Okay, Okay, how city of Sturgists cancel the

event altogether so they have no place to come. If it's no event, where would they go. Have you ever heard of saying if you build it, they will come. Okay, this is what you do. If you build it, they will come. If you don't build it, they won't come. Simple. What I don't understand is how come some leadership in

America doesn't actually lead. What's the point of being city manager, on city council, a local or state health official if you're only going to contradict all the science that's out there that tells us social distancing is the way to stop the spread of coronavirus. If keeping people apart is what can stop the transmission of COVID nineteen And why would you hold a motorcycle rally for thousands of people? Don't give me that. Oh the people have been locked

up for months and they were coming anywhere. Excuse. This is about the money that city made and we all know it. They don't care about you. They care about money. And if you're a business owner or a resident of Sturgists who wanted this event to happen, shame on you. You don't care about your health or the health of other people. Don't care about the well being of buzzers. You care about just having a good time, and you care about getting that bread, and you should be ashamed

of yourselves. Okay, Well they had to write entertainment because Steve Harwell and smash Mouth, while performing at this event, had this to say. If you couldn't make that out, he said, we're all here together tonight. F that COVID. Steve,

what happened to being a believer? I'm most certainly a believer, and even if I wasn't, I'm not going to use my platform to push my beliefs on a crowd of thousands who may not know any better, because even if you're not a COVID believer, you can't deny it's something out there. So for your safety and more importantly, the safety of the people that came to see you, okay,

could you tell them to put their mask on? Could you tell them to at least attempt to social distance the best way they can with thousands of people out there. But to say, I've been going crazy, you know, and now we're all here together tonight and we're being human once again. F that COVID. Those are famous last words, my guy. All right, we have seen COVID get people

to f out of here after uttering those words. So in the next couple of weeks, if you see Steve Harwell on social media asking for prayers because he's sick, are you wrong for keeping your prayer hand emojis to yourself? Is God wrong for seeing Steve Harwell calling and hitting decline. I'm just saying, Steve Harwell, you have to be more responsible. You saying f that COVID could be the reason people took their mask off and made it easier to spread

that COVID. But I really can't even be mad at Steve because when we reached out to comment about this situation, he had this to say, I ain't the shop is tool in that ship? Well, at least he's honest. Please let remy mad give Steve Harwell the biggest he ha he ha he ha. He's stupid, motherfu are you dumb? All right? Thank you for that donkey today? Yes, indeed, all right now, Charlemagne, are you still secretary of defense for Kanye or what's called? And we got bigger fish

to fry. Okay, so we talk about the fact. Can we talk about the fact that Joe Biden should be choosing his running mate at any moment, even though I think that he's already chosen her and a lot of people are putting pressure on him, demanding that he picks a black woman because last week, out of all his sisters, he's been saying he wants to be on the ticket with him. Reports came out that he met with Gretchen Whitmer, governor of Michigan, a white woman, about the v people'sition

in person in Delaware. You haven't heard any stories to him meeting face to face with any of the sisters, Okay, You've just heard that he's been meeting with them remotely, but he actually met with Gretchen Whitmer face to face. So that prompted a seven hundred black women to write a letter to Biden to speak out against the blatant disrespect black women have received during this process. And so us black men also decided to stand with our sisters,

and we wrote a letter essentially saying the same. And I have to salute Virgie Rollins, who's the DNC of the Black Caucus in Michigan. She said, Joe Biden better pick a black woman because if he picks Pretchen, it'll lose Michigan. And Joan Vnacci, who writes for the Boston Globe, she's a white woman. She wrote an article that said, how many insults a black vote is supposed to take from Joe Biden? At this point? Wouldn't a failure to select a black woman as his running mate be the

ultimate insult? All right? So what is the question? What are we asking? I want to know if the people feel like it's mandatory that Joe Biden picks a black woman VP, because I think it's I think it's mandatory. All right, let's open up these phone lines. Eight hundred five eight five one oh five. One do you think it's mandatory that Joe Biden picks a black woman to be his vice president? All right, we'll talk about it when we come back. Don't move. It's the Breakfast Club.

Come morning called eight hundred five eight five one oh five. Want to join it to the discussion with the Breakfast Club? Talk about it morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Now, if you just joined us, we were talking about Joe Biden, I asked Charloman I just want to make sure before we do this topic, you're no longer Kanye West's secretary of defense. Correct. Shut up, man, Listen, y'all, keep y'all,

y'all keep playing. Okay, keep telling y'all start playing with that that man. But no, what we're really discussing is Joe Biden and who he's gonna pickers are running made. I'm sure he's probably already made his decision. Maybe, but what happened last week was, out of all of the sisters he's been saying he wants to be on the ticket, reports came out that he met with Gretchen Whitmer governor

of Michigan about the VP position face to face. You haven't heard any stories in him meeting face to face when any of the sisters. All you've seen on the black women was bad press. So last week, over seven hundred black women wrote a letter to Biden to speak out against the blake and disrespect black women to receive during this process. So us as black men decided to stand with him, and we wrote our own letter that came out yesterday. A lot of different people wrote letters though.

I saw African American activists in Michigan and the DNC chair of the Black Caucus, Virgie Rollands in Michigan. They wrote a letter and they said, Joe Biden better pick a black woman. If he picks Gretchen Whitman, he'll lose Michigan. I saw Joan Vnacci, who writes for the Boston Globe. She's a white woman. She said, how many insults a black voters supposed to take from Joe Biden at this point? Wouldn't a failure to select a black woman his running

mate be then ultimate insult? And I agree with each and every one of them. You know, I'm screaming out. He has to have a black woman VP for months now, and then let me ask you a question. You know, every time we talk about Joe Biden, they say, well, why are y'all talking about him? Why y'all even saying anything? What you're gonna do? You're gonna vote for Trump or you're gonna vote for him? Well, it's simple. The reason we're having these discussions is because we clearly would like

for him to win. And when we talk about him needing a black woman VP, it's not a matter of identity politics, it's math. Joe Biden needs strong black voter turnout in swing states like Florida, Michigan, Wisconsin, in Pennsylvania to win period. If you look in all those states, a drop off of black voters. Drop off of black voter turnout happened in twenty sixteen and oh wait and oh twelve, when Barack Obama was on the ticket, black people pulled up and in twenty sixteen they did not.

Four point four million people who voted in twenty twelve stayed home in twenty sixteen, and a third of them were black. So if he does not have a black running mate, right, if he's not picking a black woman as vice president, what does that mean Charlemagne, so what are you gonna do? Let's say he says, no, I'm not gonna do it. So so what happens then, Well, it's not about listen, it's not about what I'm gonna do. Listen, It's not about what I'm going to do, because I'm

gonna do my civic duty and vote regardless. But what it's going to be about is those four point four million people who voted in twenty twelve and stay at home in twenty sixteen. Do you think that it's actual enthusiasm around Joe Biden? Do you think people are really energized by Joe Biden's campaign? When you here you streech talking to brothers and sisters NV, do you feel that No,

not at all? Okay exactly. So fear of Donald Trump is not going is not enough to just make people say, you know what, Yeah, I'm a runner, I'm a rush out in droves on November third and vote. So, yes, he needs to put a black woman on his ticket. I agree with you. What do you think? Ee, thank you, I was gonna say that. I think that, yes, we need to spark some enthusiasm for people to go out and vote. I also look at Gretchen Witmer. I don't think she would be a good candidate. I see everything

that's happened in Flint. They still haven't solved that. What a crisis problem the education system in Detroit. They're feeling the students here. So I don't feel like she would be a good choice anyway. But I also feel like we want to be enthusiastic about who we vote for, and we want people to be energized. Of course, I'm registered to vote. I'm definitely going to vote. I encourage

everyone to do it. But you think about, you know, people who don't feel like Joe Biden is their top pick in any way, the vice presidential pick is what's going to really energize them, And so I think it's really important that we too somebody like Kamala Harris or Susan Rice. And they are supposed to be announcing that some time this week, and so I guess we'll see then. But part of being involved in politics is using your

voice to get what you want. So I think it's great, yes for people to be very vocal about what it is that they want. It's not that you elect these politicians and just vote without demanding things. So it's important to demand what it is that you want so that you can feel enthusiastic about who you're voting for. It's not just enough to say we don't want Donald Trump there. I want to be enthusiastic about who it be in office.

And that's what we're doing now. And a lot of black people don't trust that white man Joe Biden, but I will trust his running mate, especially if it's sitting the Kamala Harris. And black women don't just vote, they mobilize. They're gonna have me and you, your mama and your cousin too, out there in them streets campaigning to make you know how much disrespect can can somebody take before they say, you know what, I don't want to be your your running mate. I don't want to be your

vice president, because that's what it's getting to the point. Man, it seems like you don't think so not because they're to face meetings with I don't know that. That's what I'm saying, and that's what made those black women write that letter. But that's what I'm delaware, right And then you you talk to me through his zoom and then I'm supposed to just say, Okay, yeah, you can pick me as a I don't know. Let's go to the phone line. Hello, who's this Terry? What's going on? What

do you think about Joe Biden? If you don't pick a black woman? I'm vote independent. I don't am Garry, who are vote for independent? I'm seriously all right? I think people feel Hello, who's this Jamika? Jamika with Biden? What are your feelings if he picks or not doesn't pick a black woman. I don't think it should be an end ull And I think people need to stop saying that for a simple fact that he's gonna start splitting the vote of black people, not gonna go out

and vote black women. Gonna be that mad. And at this point, I'm gonna tell you the truth. Joe Biden was sitting on the corner smoking lead. I'm gonna I'm gonna vote for him because I'm not mad. But you can still be vocal about what you would like him to do. Right, I would, and I would love for him to choose a black woman, you know, I mean that's voting for Regardlessma Tamika, you gotta tell the universe, you gotta tell the universe what you want. You can't

send the universe mixed signals. That's why you single now, because you say you don't want no man, but then you're saying you want a man to say what you want. Toma, I've been mad. I've been mad for twenty years, but I've been If Joe Biden is voking crack on the corner, you're voting for Joe. All right, thank you and then thank you. Having good day. Now, let's be class people energized enough that they just want to get Trump out

of there and go vote that way regardless. There are some people do that, but but I think that you have to energize everybody and let everyone be enthusiastic again. People need to come out and vote in droves if you want to win. You know, you know that's not gonna be enough. Donald Trump is your president now, and people shop like that. In twenty sixteen, it was like, we gotta get him out. We can't have this man in the White House. And it didn't happen. Okay, five

eight five one oh five. One would take some more of your calls as the breakfast club good morning phone called eight hundred five eighty five one oh five want to join it to the discussion with the Breakfast Club. Talk about it morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Now if he just joined us, we're talking about Joe Biden. He hasn't picked a running mate yet, so we're asking what if he doesn't pick a black woman. Does he need

to pick a black woman? That is the question. Yes, I'm sure he has already picked her though. But you know, red flags were raised last week when Gretchen Whitmer, governor of Michigan, actually flew to Delaware and met with Joe Biden face to face. Now, I also did hear that Senator Kamala Harris flew to Delaware as well and met with him face to face. What the problem I have is no press came out about that week, but all the press came out about Gretchen all you see. Yeah,

I'm he didn't with a black woman. He did. He did me with Kamal Harris and face to face. Yes, but you didn't see. Everything is very it's supposed to be very secretive about what they're doing. So I don't know why it's not certain things aren't they're acting like it is like that all the meetings are secret, and it's positive press for Gretchion, negative press for all the black women candidates. You know what I'm saying, Let's go, Let's go to the full lines. Hello. Who's this is

Margaret Margaret fall Hey, what's up? Brother? We're talking Joe Biden. What's your thoughts? My thought is Joe Biden is already gonna lose. For one, I understand y'all think Trump's gonna win, but he's not. I mean, He's gonna lose, but he's not. Joe Biden. Don't need to attach no woman to that campaign. That campaign is a complete mess. And once you start losing a politics, you're gonna start looking like you're chasing a particular and I looked bad overall. So no, I

don't think Joe Budden should I mean Joe Biden. I don't think Joe Budden should either. Why do you think Joe Biden? Why do you think Joe Biden's gonna lose? M I he's gonna lose because he hasn't shown any progress. Just look at he has he shown you anything that tells you that he's gonna move forward in regards to the Democrat Party ring, well, Joe Biden, they showed us that they don't want to move forward in the progressive

manner that they claim that they want to be in. Well, that's why I think, you know, his vice presidential pick is very important. And if I'm Joe Biden, I would introduce my whole cabinet this week, not just my VP. I would introduce with my whole shadow cabinet look like. And you know, if it's some progressives on there, if it's some diversity on there, if there's some people that

are forward thinking, you gotta vote for that. Yeah. I would think before the seventeenth he's gonna reveal a lot, so we'll know who the VP is, we'll know who is gonna be in his cabinet. I think you want to do all of that before the convention. All right, Well, what's the most of the story is Joe Biden needs a black woman on his ticket to win. And that's not a matter of identity politics. It's simple math. Okay. He needs a strong black people to turn out in

swing states like Florida, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. And that's it. Nothing more to talk about. Four point four million people who voted in twenty twelve stay at home in twenty sixteen, and third of them were black. So if you want black people to pull up in droves like you did in Owait in twoy twelve, you gotta put a black

woman on your ticket. And if you're asking me, I think that that black woman should be Senator Kamala Harris because that rote energized a Negro like me to get up and say, you know what, not only am I gonna vote, I'm gonna encourage other people to go out the vote. I just want to be excited and happy to vote. I want to dance away from the pole like yes. And then just to disrespect that. You know, they've shown these black women candidates during this vetting process.

It's like they're not even being vetted, they're being Scrutinized's like for you to say that Senator Kamala Harris is overly ambitious, she has too much ambition, She's not gonna be loyal because she's gonna be too focused on being the president. You didn't say that about Joe Biden. It's Joe Biden's third time running for president. What if the rock felt like that when when Joe Biden ran against him in a wait and didn't choose him as the VP.

You know what I mean to say, Press outlets, there's a certain press outlets saying that that's not coming from Joe Biden's camp. Yes, and day that came from Joe Biden's The dude on his vetting team, on his VP vetting team name was Oh, I didn't know that. I thought that was Yes. He's saying he didn't say that, but the press is saying that they got that from him. Well, Joe Biden, if you know what I know, you need to pick a black woman, simple as that. Senator. All right, yeah,

we got rumors. Well, since we're talking about voting in again, I want to tell you guys to make sure you are registered to vote. We've been talking about how important that is, and this morning we're discussing it as well. So I'm gonna give you guys some information on where you can vote and how you can make sure that you are registered. All you have to do is make sure you text a Levis to seven eight eight sixty

eight three. You can get registered. Find out Keith Dayton voting how to's from Rock the Vote and we're talking all about voting, So let's talk about a potential candidate who could face election fraud investigation. All right, we'll get into that next. Keep a lot. This the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We all the Breakfast Club. Let's get to the rumors. Let's talk Kanye West's team.

This is the rumor report with Angela Yee on the Breakfast Club. Yes, so Kanye West could face election fraud investigation. And according to reports, he has been removed from the ballot in Illinois as we know, and they're saying that there could be an investigation into his campaign. They said

more than half of the signatures submitted where invalid. He had about thirty one hundred signatures, and they said no word on what names were not valid, but some names could include illegible names, non registered voters, or people providing fake names or addresses. And I saw some of the forums that they submitted with the signatures, and some of them looked exactly the same. The handwriting looked exactly the same.

So this is this is foolish that we're still talking about a fake Kanye West presidential campaign, Like none of this will even be a story if no media outlets reported on it. Like if we're saying that Kanye is a distraction and he's only doing this for attention, why are we giving it to him? Like we're part of the problem. Was we realize that or not? Jel Hugally gave us some attention to and here's what he had

to say about Kanye West. It's no doubt that he suffers from some level of mental illness, but it isn't why he's misogynistic. It isn't why he's disrespectful to our history. And then he's not so ill that he is trying to be a disruptor in the political form. He tooks five million dollars in the PPP payments, so he seems to be conveniently ill when it serves his purposes, and I think he to me, Kanye West is exactly like Donald Trump, so it would makes sense that they're attracted

to one another. I don't think Kanye West is mentally ill when convenient, because Kanye will be the first to tell you that he's not crazy. I think the media label him mentally ill when convenient. It seems to me whenever Kanye does something people don't agree with, he gets tagged mentally ill. But the truth is, that's the same old Kanye West we've been seeing our whole lives. He's not doing nothing different except playing for a side we

got on what's crazy? And think about it. If you're a Trump supporter, he's always been a fan of Kanye. That's just Kanye being Kanye. But if you got a Trump supporter, you're looking at Kanye like man's dude tripping. But where where labeling mentally ill? And you know, he said there is no doubt that he suffers from some level of mental un it's in Kim Kardashian has said that he's mentally ill. Also right, and so it said that a few years ago. But now, but now, in

this moment, he's telling y'all, I'm not crazy. Y'all upset at me because I'm crying over my meet the thought of potentially aborting my daughter. He was like that, don't make me crazy, he said that, But about his comments about Harriet's teman and being disrespectful, don't make him crazy. That just make him stupid. But first, we're not even crazy. Nally well, that don't make him, just makes him stupid. That makes him a bad commune innicata. And I don't

mean he's mentally ill. I do think Kanye is mentally ill. Maybe not from the things that you just said that he said, but I do think he has some mental podect kardash didn't even put up that post where she was discussing you know that he was bipolar and that he's been having episodes and a lot of things happen behind the scenes that she doesn't address publicly, and Kanye pushed back on all of that. All I'm simply saying that if the man is mentally ill, he's mentally ill,

and he's not doing it for a matter of convenience. Right, Clearly he's mentally ill. But I'm saying we tag him mentally ill all the time just because he said it's something we don't agree with. If that is all it takes to be mentally ill, somebody's saying something you don't agree with, it's a lot of mentally ill people out of it. I don't think that's the only reason that

people say that. But all right, he set to release new music with hit Boy, and that's going to be coming out next week, so people are really excited for that. He said he's been trying to do this for years, and he put up a hit boy. He put up a clip on social media. He said, we've got the time, We've got that alignment. So whatever it is, it is coming on August twenty first, so get ready for that now. Other things that are coming up Mike Tyson's comeback fight

with Roy Jones Junior. That was actually postponed to November twenty eighth, so we were hoping that was going to happen on September twelfth. We did talk to Roy Jones Junior on the Breakfast Club, but it looks like that has been postponed a few months. I'm still gonna watch it. Yeah, me too. I think they needed that time. I thought that fight was too fast. I mean, these brothers still need to train, you know, all right. Tracy Morgan reveals that he split up from his wife six months ago,

and he also wants his last name back. So they separated before the pandemic hit, and according to Bossup, they're saying that he filed asking for joint custody of their daughter, Maven, who's seven years old. Wants both sides to pay child support for her, and he wants Megan to revert to her maiden name. According to court documents, so her name is Megan and wallover Morgan. So he wants her to just drop the Morgan. Can you force someone to do that?

I have no idea, and I hope I never have to find I don't know, like once you marry somebody, can you make them revert back to their you know, give back your last name. I don't know. I want I want them to keep it, and especially if somebody else that's right, keep it. I want you to even keep my name, my last name, even marry somebody else.

Why why Eagle? All right? Damian Lillard? He had a response for skip Bayless Now skip Bayless was undisputed, and he also tweeted out, I'm still not buying Dame time and apparently the Clippers aren't either at undisputed, and so he told Shannon Sharp, I will allow you to continue to stick your head in the stand about Damian Lillard, but I'm not going to What happened on Saturday afternoon validated what I've been asking about Damian Lillard? Is he

really that guy? Does he really have super in front of star in front of his name. Well, Damian Lillard responded and he said this. He got on Twitter today. He was like, I don't know if I'm buying dame time and he's not a superstar, and I just it made me mad because I don't care about who's a superstar and all that. What do you that even mean? Bro? I just saw the tweet and I basically told him. I was like, I don't believe in nothing about you.

You a client, basically, And then I was just like, you're the same person who I had a private conversation with, and he backpedaled the whole time. Bro, he didn't stand on nothing that he said. I could just really make him look bad right now, but I ain't gonna do that. He also tweeted, I have never been buying nothing about you, fam. You a joke and after a private convo full of backpedaling, you will never have my respect. And then you put

a clown emoji. Emoi really hurt the people's feelings, it does. That's the bet with somebody been running their mouth and then you finally get them on the phone or you see them in person, and they don't have that same energy that is the best. That is why whatever I say about you on the radio or on a podcast, I will say to you because because of that right there, you may not like me, but you're gonna respect the fact that I kept the same energy. All right, Well

I'm angel La Yee and that's your rumor report. All right, thank you, miss Ye now, shout to revote. We'll see tomorrow everybody else to People's Choice mixes up next, get your request in. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, PJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Now. Shout to the Dean family for joining us this morning. D One and Chavon, the founders of Priders. Yes Yes,

Rider documentary starts tomorrow at ten pm. I Belief right after the Master, I think the finality the masterp Dot. I want to salute to I Heeart two. I Heart is launching get out to Vote campaign. They're putting celebrities, influences and real people like our listeners on all the airwaves across eight hundred and fifty stations and podcasts from now and tell election day November three, to discuss the issues that matter most to them in this election year.

So if Joe Biden this campaign are smart, they will be announcing Senator Kamala Harris as his VP this week to add some much needed energy to his campaign. And he needs to introduce his cabinet too. Okay, we need to see what the rest of the Avengers look like

since we're not that enthused about Hawkeye. Okay, but if I Heart is doing initiatives like this, it will be good, you know, to hear our listeners and celebrities and influencers actually have something to be excited about when discussing the upcoming elections. So, yeah, Joe Biden, do the right thing and adding to the Kamala Harris to a ticket and salute the iHeart for launching to get out the boot campaign. All right, now, when we come back, we got the

positive notes. Don't move. It's to breakfast club. Good morning morning. Everybody is j Envy and Jula yee. Charlomagne the guy. We are the breakfast club. Now, Charlomagne, you've got a positive note. I do. Actually, my positive note for the day is this who you are inside is what helps you make and do everything in life. Do you know who said that? Mister Rogers Breakfast club. You know I'm finish for y'all, dun