The Breakfast Club talks with Rush Limbaugh

but this has to be where it stops. For almost ten years, we have been the voice of our community, working to push our culture forward, focusing on educating our listeners on entrepreneurship, real estate, mental health, education, and the importance of being politically engaged and informed. We have always had diverse guests and are open to the tough conversations. In that spirit, today we are having a candid conversation

with fellow broadcaster Rush Limbaugh. Why are we having this conversation with someone whose historical viewpoints differ so significantly from ours and who we represent, because the dialogue has to be open beyond who we know or who we talk to.

Every morning. Today, Russia's listeners will hear us, probably for the first time ever, what we are witnessing in our nation right now is not normal, and it compels our attention to understand every side and look for ways to bring this country together and stop the senseless killing of our people. So we will start with a conversation that we think might be the first step. Ladies and gentlemen,

Rush Limbaugh. Every Democrat candidate for president this year has made it their business to appear on the Breakfast Club, and now it's it's my honor to appear on the Breakfast Club. Excuse me, even though I'm not a Democrat. Now, guys, can I tell you why I wanted to The George Floyd story is being lost right. There are two things happening in America, and it sickens me what happened to him. Legitimate national outrage about a policeman's criminality has been hijacked.

And I don't want to forget about George Floyd. What happened to George Floyd sickened me, and I wanted to reach out and tell you all this. I want to make sure you have no doubt, and I'm not the only American who feels this way, the senselessness of it. You know, we're only given one life. We don't get to do over we only get one. We all take it for granted because it just happened. We're born, we don't even remember that. But George Floyd had his taken away from him. He didn't lose it, he had it

taken away from him in a stupid way. And I think most Americans are just as angry and sad about this as I am. And I'm also angry to cops that stood around there and didn't do it thing to stop it. It was just I can't tell you how frustrated it is, and I just I just wanted to share the emotion I have with you guys about this and to try to convey to you that I actually think most Americans are just as sickened and outraged by

it as I am. Yeah, And you know what, one of the worst things is that I feel like we're so accustomed to being in these situations where we get frustrated, where nothing happens, and these police officers are back out doing the same thing over and over again. And that's part of the frustration is this is not an isolated incident. This is something that's been happening in our community for it hasn't stopped. We don't see when it will stop, and I think people are frustrated, and it's a combination

of so many different things. Right now, Well, that's I think absolutely absolutely right. If you look at the the actual circumstance here, you had what happened to him, It's on video. You've got the cop, the cop standing there almost looking like he's bragging or having fun exerting power. How stupid is the cop? Can the cop not be aware of what we in this country are going through precisely because of what he's doing at that moment? How can anybody be that in sense? So they've or stupid.

It's beyond me to understand. It almost felt like that the more that people were telling him that he was killing him and that it was blood coming out of his nose and that he was lifeless, but he really felt like just looking at his face, I think that was probably the closest thing to a devil that I've ever seen in my life. It was his ego that just allowed him to keep applying pressure and applying pressure

and taking that man's life. I can't let me answer your question, Russ Charlomagne talking, We've seen numerous police killings of one armed black people in this country. Why is the George Floyd's situation the one that's making you say, enough is enough and this needs to stop. Why why is this situation in particular because I'm fed up with I'm not saying I mean, I'm not tolerant of any of them, but I'm I'm just I'm fed up with it. Charlomagne, none of this to me, And I know, I know

that you're going to disagree with me on this. To me, this is not America. It's a it's a it's a it's a sad. Oh no, it's definitely America. Well, I see, but it's it's not what we can be. It's not what we have been. We're the greatest nation of history of the world, and we haven't achieved that on the basis of mood over us or not. I think I think that. I think it's easy for you to say because you're you're a white male and that comes with

a different level of privilege. And I do think America does work, but it works for the people that it was designed to work for. It doesn't work for everybody else the way it works for you. Well, it can, that's the point of America. It can for anybody who wants to adapt to it, for anybody who wants to try to take advantage of the unique opportunities that exist in the United States. We're the only nation that's ever enshrined the concept of individual liberty and freedom and are

founding documents. We're the only country that's ever created a document to govern ourselves by that limits government. Now, Uh, it's it's you know, I look, but George Floyd wasn't doing anything wrong. Brianna Taylor got killed in her house. She wasn't doing anything wrong. And so it's not that people haven't adapted to things. It's just that we get targeted and then there's no punishment when the police officers

commit these crimes against us. No, no, we talked about I didn't mean to conflate that George Floyd could have stopped what was going to happen to him. I don't misunderstand. George Floyd is the essence of innocence. But what I'm saying is is that America is a place with robust opportunity if you want to go out and look for it and find it. Now, the people ripping up the streets today and last night, the Antifa types. They don't

care to find the they disagree with the whole constructive about. Well, no, I gotta push back on you with that too. It's not just the antif for types. You know what I'm saying, Like, like you see all these white folks out there protesting luten raising. Hell, you know what I'm saying, Let's not act like there isn't forty million people who have filed for unemployment in America. Folksmen sitting around the last three

months waiting on stimulus checks. Than forty four percent of those people who have been denied unemployment checks are still waiting on them to come. People of all races are broke. They don't know where their next meal from. Their savings are exhausted if they had any, They don't know how they're gonna pay bills. So of course they're gonna go out there in loot. Of course they're angry and frustrating. It turns out unnecessarily, there's no reason to shut down

the country, and there's no reason to lock everybody. Of course, you put forty million people out of work and tell them, you know, you penalize them when they do try to open their businesses. You're gonna create a powder keg. A powder keg has been created. But that's right, That's why I can't. That's why I can't. That's why I can't allow you to say that it's just Antifa out there, because it is a lot of white people who are fair. But the anti people, the Antifa people, are the violent ones.

The Antifa people are the ones that are trying to capitalize on it. There's, of course, there's some legitimate, heartfelt people out there peacefully protesting. But look you guys, let me tell you, you are a testament to the opportunity available in America. Look at you. How did you do it? Why did you have to overcome to become a breakfast club and why did you have to overcome become dominant in morning drive in American radio? Who held you back or what were you able to overcome in order to

do it? The opportunity is there is the only thing I'm saying. Right. But you know, you talk about peacefully, you talk about peacefully protests, right, And you were very opinionated about Colin Kaepernick, and he was peacefully protesting, right. And now what people are saying, oh, they're not peacefully protesting. This is the same thing Colin Kaepernick was kneeling for that the world was so upset about and the world said, he's taking it too far and he doesn't know what

he's talking about. This is exactly the reason why he was kneeling in protesting the fact that an unarmed African American man was doing nothing. They still don't even know if he had a fake ten twenty dollar bill and not. He and that man kneeled on George Floyd for damned in nine minutes and killed that man, murdered that man and looked at us like, yeah, I'm doing it, and what you guys, I'm trying to tell you, I'm all

with you. I'm one thousand percent with you on This is why I wanted to talk to you because I know that that there are you know, we all have preconceptions that we live under and biases that we live under, and I wanted to reach out to you guys, specifically me. You were you were the ones that I was told to speak to that that this is intolerable. I'm happy to have the conversation and I'm glad you're having it

because I think your audience needs to hear it. And you know, you said something a little while ago, and I want to just, you know, talk about that. You know, this is this is a country America that denies you know, black people justice and just playing decency. And then they act like we're just supposed to be happy to be here because it allows a few of us. To me, did I say, majority of us out here catch what you said? You said? You said, you know, you guys

made it. Y'all are successful, you know what I'm saying, like, But but the rest of us are catching hell out here? All right? George Floyd and isolated and Charlotte Man, you're adding things to my mouth that I did and say you're adding syllables I have not uttered. I was trying to be complimentary of you, and I'm trying to illustrate that you are an example to others that want to try you can succeed. Let me ask a question. If the Minnesota Vikings had announced two nights in combing they

were gonna hire Colin Kaepernick, would the riots have stopped? No? I want to go about that. What I'm talking about you guys Kaepernick, his name is Kaepernick, and the reason I brought him up to do and I'm just asking if the Vikings had signed him, would that would the people have been this, Oh good, Okay, it's got a gang. You know, we're not gonna protest because that's not gonna stop white supremacy. That's not gonna stop racism. Okay, we

gotta all right, Peter, George Floyd. But this that was not an Isola incident. This is a regular occurrence. Let me add black people in this country. How do you how that? Being don't want to change the system, how do you A question for you? You? I want to know if how are you going to use your privilege of the white male to combat this prejudice? You you gotta do side. I don't. I don't buy in no way.

I don't buy the notion of white privilege. See. I think that's a liberal that's a liberal political constract right along the lines of political correctness, is designed to intimidate and get people shut up and admit they're guilty of doing things they haven't done. No, I don't have I don't have any No. You know what white privilege is. White privilege is that what would happen to George Floyd would not have happened to a white man. Right if if if what happened to George Floyd had happened to

a white man, we probably wouldn't even have heard about it. Huh. You definitely would have heard about it. You definitely would have been you definitely would you definitely George. People get killed by if George. There's a lot of instances where this does happen and we don't hear about it. There's a lot of times that there's no video that exists, and then people are police officers lie and they say this is what happened, just like we've seen it happen

so many different times where fortunately there was video. There's a lot of cases that won't make it that he about virus. You never hear about that, never make it the TV, that never make it to social media. Because I know what I said, guys, I said, if George Floyd were white, we wouldn't have heard of this, And if the same thing had happened him, we wouldn't have heard about it. It wouldn't have been you would you You'd be just right, you probably wouldn't hear about it.

And you know why because that guy would have been arrested, he would have been a fired, he'd been charged with murder long time before all of this, immediately before before the video hit it the social media, he would have been charged, fired, arrested, locked up in all that. If George Floyd was white. There's a there's a Muslim. I think there's a Muslim officer in Minneapolis now doing twelve and a half years because he accidentally killed a white

woman and on duty. So I mean, I don't, I don't, I don't get it, But let me ask a question. It was because I remember in twenty fourteen you criticized President Obama and you said he should do more to ease racial tensions in the wake of the grand jury decisions to not indict the white police officers in Ferguson. You said, if he wants to, he can inspire, and I think it's called for in this situation. Shouldn't that same advice apply to President Trump right now? Absolutely? I

think it applies to all presidents. Absolutely, no, no question. But that's one of their roles is to calm circumstances and situations like this. But look, can I ask you, you keep harping on white privilege and racism, would you tell me how to end it? What? What can we do? To end this so that you are not frustrated and angry and feeling like whatever you feel like, because I hate you guys as that you're angry all the time.

So what can we do to stop the racism? Here's the thing, right, Um, as long as they as a system of white supremacy, you know, they will always be these type of situations. You know, it doesn't matter who's in the White House. If that person is not willing to dismantle the mechanism of white supremacy, if that person is not willing to change legislation that disproportionately impacts black folks, it doesn't matter, you know what I'm saying, Like, we've

seen this a million times. Tell me what happened. You had four years of Barack Obama. You had you had Americans, white Americans voting for Obama because they wanted to say, we're not racist, We're not a racist country. You had people electing the first African American president in our history. He sure for eight years. Why isn't there anything to

show for it that makes you less angry than you were? Then, once again, it doesn't matter who's in the White House, if that person is not willing to dismantle the mechanism of white sumon. Guys, the elections don't matter now. I think that when you when you, when we got to stop acting like white supremacy isn't done by design. The whole function of systemic racism is to marginalize black people. And it's very hard to get any damn near eighty year old white man to change his system that's been

working for him in his family for years. I don't care if it's Biden art Trump. So once again, we need people that are willing to dismantle the mechanism of white supremacy. Okay, let me let me ask you, guys, why do you still vote Democrat? I vote for whoever I think is the best candidate because Democrat has been promising to fix your grievances for fifty years, and you have the same grievances, you have the same complaints. They

haven't done a damn thing for you. They haven't even punished the people that you think are responsible for the racism and bigotry being done to you. Why do you keep supporting them? And you know I don't disagree with you, and I don't That's why I'm not letting nobody politicize black pain and tell us that this is one person's fault just because they are trying to win an election

in November. This is America's fault. And the war on drugs, mass and conceration, said aggregation, slavery, all of those things are and have been the proverbial knee on the back of black folks neck and tell somebody is willing to

dismantle the mechanism of white supremacy, nothing is going to change. Well, Russ, I also don't want to lose check of what we're talking about here, because I know we're trying to focus on George Floyd and what's happening with him and how can we take some actionable steps to move forward and what can be done right. So on your end, what are some things that you feel like cops should be charged with first degree murder? And I think that the

guys standing around ought to be charged. The other cops that we're standing around, I think it's it's time to end this. Look, we we are all aware of police brutality. We're all aware of the actions that some wrong cops take, and it's way too many of them against African American men,

and it's time to stop. And you know, I'm not a policeman, I'm not an executive in a police department, but it seems to me that if those people end up being charged and instead of shielded when they commit murder, it shouldn't be the illegalized murder, and that would be one way to at least get a start on making sure it doesn't happen. This. George Floyd was, for everything

I've been able to tell, was a good guy. He was a nice guy, had a family, and said did not even come close to deserving having his life taken from him, like, not at all, not at all. Now, do you agree with the way that the media's portraying everything You're in media, and you know media's white media, of course, do you do you agree with how they portraying everything that's going on right now? Oh? God, I don't. I don't think we've gotten the truth out of most

media in three or four years. I don't know. And I think that's another reason why people are mad. You guys, they know they've been lied to. They were lied about so many things for two three four years now, and so now they don't know what to belief coming out of the media, and I don't care what it is Fox, CNN, New York Times, Washington Post. There doesn't seem to be anywhere in our culture that people have trust in an institution or series of institutions that provide a backstop and

reliability when something like this happens. And I think that's creating or contributing the even more of the unrest that's happening out there. Rush, How would you advise Donald Trump to handle this situation? Because I see that he's having some issues. He's calling people thugs, he's talking about sticking the dogs on people if they try to come into

the White House. But then you see how he treats people who are protesting to stay at home order and they have guns, and they're white people, and they're fine people. So I just want to know what advice would you give to the president right now to say, this is what we need to do, and this is how you should handle it, because I don't think that he's handling

it properly with his verbiage. I think what the president ought to do is use the God given humility that he has that and don't doubt me that he does. He has. He has a lot of human nothing humble about the president come out now there is even and every rally you will see his ego, his appreciation the people that show up. But it's it's simple matter of understanding he's president of everybody here and trying to quell these moments of unrest is something that would be really,

really to his advantage. I think what you said about Obama in twenty fourteen applies when when you said if he wants to, he can inspire, and I think he's called for in his situation. But I look at the inspire, I think he wants to insight. Okay, first, I do agree with you about the inspiration. I think I think he can. I think he should. I think all presidents

should in terms of Trump and sighting. Look, the guy has had everybody and their uncle telling lies and falsehoods about him for three and a half four years now, and he's probably a little fed up with it. Before the shutdown happened, look at what black unemployment was, it was a record low. The number of African Americans have had jobs, the wages that were going up, and then this virus comes along and the bottom has pulled out from it. He's got to be frustrated. As as he

can be. And I'm not trying to carry his water. But the black black unemployment rate started going down under Obama, touto. I mean, that's that's one thing that Trump takes credit for. It had actually started under President Obama it did. Okay, Well that's then cast you a question to Russ. Yeah, moving forward, all right, because you know the cops. Say, let's say the cops get arrested, the cop gets charge, you go to jail. Great, how do we dismantle white

supremacy as a whole moving forward? Well, that's another show, guys, Because A I don't, I don't. You'd have to define what it means to you? What what? Because I don't. I don't feel like I am a white supremacist, and I don't think there's much white supremacy going on out there. But I need to have your define. See, this is one of the divides. I'll tell you. I'll tell you that. To me once again, this system is designed to work for the people that it was built by, and that's

white folks, particularly all white men. And now that people have had enough because those white folks I spoke about earlier, who are out there, you know who really love black people as much as they love black culture, and they're out there standing with black folks and they want to fight with us. I think this is the tipping point, and we right now are at a point where we can finally force America to live up to his grand promises of liberty and justice for all and not just

liberty and justice for white folks. It has that's my back to the beginning of it has. It's out there. You guys have done it. Look we're out of time here, but would you guys like to do this again where we pick it up right from this point and make it maybe make a white supremacy, not if we're just gonna dance the whole time, if you if you're gonna have some honest conversation with us and stop telling us things like white privilege, sharks and you don't know what

white supremacy is. If we could do that, yes, well, Rash, I'm very into having with having these into having these conversations because I do think it is important for white people to acknowledge the heart that they've inflicted on the African American community and to be able to come forward and admit that we can't even move forward until that happens. Yeah, I was attempting to do here with all of you today on the white supremacy thing. I'm not in any

kind of denial. I just know that it's a politically charged element of the Democrat Party's politics and liberalism. And I do not cave or compromise or give one iotas of an inch to liberalism no matter what. So white white supremacy or white privilege is a construct of today's Democrat Party, and I'm not going to agree with any aspect of it as they put it forth. I'm not denying that there are certain individuals out there I think

they're better than other people, but structurally, institutionally white supremacy. See, that's it's don't You can't see You can't see how white people are just treated better in this country and even just as fire as how many people get pulled over and by them. We don't have these conversations, but we gotta be honest with each other, like you gotta people proportionally they're getting shot by the car. You set these things up. You have no idea how if and

I can imagine what you're gonna say. If I sit here and say you have no idea. How I have been mistreated by various elements, various groups, various companies, various individuals, my whole life. It's called wife, and it happens, and we're all mistreated. I've been fired nine times in my career. But have you ever got don done out your car because you were driving a nice car? I got just

pat it down just for being black. I've had my car kid, I've had my tires blown up for I'm talking about throwing out your call by a police officer because you're black, driving a nice car, or walking down the street in Queen's the Air where you're from, and the police pulling you over and patting you down. Has these things happened to you? Don't talk about I didn't got shot at, they didn't shout out my car. Don't talk about keying a car and popping attire. I'm talking

about ouse. You're blacke nothing. I'm a hermit and the reck close and I don't. I don't go out and do all that kind of stuff. No, that's kind of stuff that's never happened to me. I'll grant you. I want to ask you one more question before we get out of here. However, I've never had the cops assumed that I have. Well, I actually know that isn't true. I haven't rush stop. I have not pursued by the

cop so I was pursued, but absolutely I have. But look, guys, let me thank you again forget no, no, let me thank you again for giving me the time today and I having access to you and at least the chance to talk to you. I do appreciate it, and maybe we can do it again. I look forward to it. Thank thank you, Rushing. I didn't want to know why

you think rest in peace? That's right. All those white kids out there on the front lines protesting and fighting with black people, I salute them, But why do you Why do you think they're out there, Russ Because they're fed up with what happened to George Floyd. They're fed up with this situation that will not stop, that caused all this and provided the opportunity for all this to happen, meet the opportunity to protest and riot. There are more

Americans fed up with it than you know. That's my point. What about America? Though? You don't think that the fact that there's forty million people who file for unemployment the largest, the largest unemployment rate since the Depression era. You don't think that they're fed up about that too? Well, I already acknowledged that earlier in the conversation. You can't put forty million people out of work. But I'm telling you that you have a lot of sympatico people out there.

White people were marching in the sixties with Doctor King. They were. In fact, Doctor King's death did not cause this kind of strife in this country. King Jia is dead because of racism and white supremacy. Uh well, okay, if that's your answer to everything, then I don't know how we're we're going is he's dead because he was fighting against racism in white supremacy. Thank you for the conversation. Now, this was a serious conversation, at times, an uncomfortable conversation,

even though we have vastly different viewpoints from Rush. It was an open conversation to have because the dialogue must be open beyond just our community if we are ever going to get a real change from all people. This is the breakfast Club