Sil Lai Abrams Interview and more

Maine the guy the breakfast club. Bitch. You take good morning Usa yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo Good morning, angela ye, good money d damn me. Charlemagne the got piece to the planet. Guess what day it is? Guess what day it is? Day? And of course too, hey Wednesday, middle of the week. How you guys feeling out there? How are you feeling. Um,

I'm good, I'm a little sluggish. I went for a long walk yesterday in Brooklyn, but I was at this restaurant called Tillies. I went to go get some takeout while I was there, and you know, in Brooklyn, well in New York, they've been doing drinks to go. So I had this little wine drink and I think I haven't been drinking that much. So I had one of those yeah out and about all right, Well, um, shout

out to Revolt. Yesterday I was on Revolt. They were talking about let me get the correct beyond black and blue. So they were talking to me in another lady, I can't remember her name, and they were just talking about the police and what we feel a police should be doing. And they were just asking my opinion what my dad said. Of course, my dad is a retired police officer, and I, you know, we were just going through you know, how I was raised as a son of a cop, and

what my dad said about police. And I've set it up here a million times. You know, my dad number one thing is the police and not your friends. Uh, you don't say anything, keep your mouth shut. Uh you know, Um, you can always call a lawyer. You can always call your your you know, your your parents, but you never say anything. You know, don't try to weazle your way out of a situation. Just shut the f up, as my dad would always say. And the second thing my

dad always says, you gotta make it home. I always talk about, you know, I used to be uh you know, when I used to give I get I used to get pulled over a lot. And one time when I got pulled over, my dad was on a speaker phone and I was being an ass to the cop because the cop was being an ass to me. I could just hear my dad yelling streaming, just give them your license and registration. Just give them your license to FF and registration. So when the cop left, my dad was like, look,

it doesn't matter if he's right or wrong. Yes, he's absolutely wrong, but at the end of the day, I need you to come home. I need you to make it home. You can't beat him in the street. You can, we can beat him when you get home, but you can't beat him in the street. And that just stuck with me, and I tell that to my kids. I mean, it's you know, it's not right. But at the end of the day. I want my kids to make it home, you know. So, I mean I've talked about that last

I will vote. Yeah, that's great advice. The only sad part is we've seen people be polite to police and comply with police and still getting killed or getting beat up or brutalize. So I mean, it's like, you damned if you do your damned if I don't think that the community, I don't think the community relationship, the black community relationship will never be a solid relationship with the police until there is an overwhelming amount of people from

our community that are police officers. I actually think that should be one of the community policing incentives, Like they should have financial incentive for people who grew up in a certain neighborhood who decided to go into law enforcement and come back and police said neighborhood, yeah, and they should have a financial incentive to do that. Absolutely also spoke, you know, growing up in Queens, I was like, you know,

it was more community. I remember there was a kid on our block and I talked about this, you know, he had down syndrome when we called him the E kid because all he said was and I remember there was an incident one time with the police, and my dad was there and the police came and if my dad wasn't there, I don't know what would happened to that kid because he was had down syndrome. He was aggressive, but my dad knew him. So when the cops came out, Dad I was like, no, I got this, I got this.

I got this. And my dad was able to call his mom and call his pop and de escalate the situation because he knew the community, he knew the kid, you know what I mean. But if it would have been anybody else, they wouldn't have known it. They wouldn't have known what was going on. If he would attacked, it might have shot him. So, like you said, yeah, we absolutely positively need more of that in the community.

And you know, my dad is a Queen's Head. He's from originally from Brooklyn, but when we moved to Queens that's his block. He's not going away. He knows everybody on the block. He knows the kids on the block, he knows the elderly people on the block. It's it's that, it's what he does. You know, homeboy who's a copy asked me yesterday, he said, how long do I think cops should be in training And I said, it depends. I said, you know, if if, if it depends on

the play community they're policing. If they're training a community that they're not from, they don't have no you know, experience with the training should be longer. If they're going to be policing in the community that they know, the training should be shorter. That's right. That's just my personal opinion. And you feel and you feel a little different when your family's in that community, like like like, is my dad gonna do something foul in the community when I'm

running around playing as a kid. No, he's he protects that community. He knows his kids and kids kids friends. So we talked about that last That will revolve very great conversations. So shout out to Ebony Kay Williams. Did he Charife and everybody on the Revolt team appreciate you guys. All right, now, we got a special guest joining us this morning. He did a one on one with this

young lady. Yeah, still like Abrams. So you want to explain to people who sil is, Ye, yes, Sillli is women who she's an author and she's an activist and she is also one of the women who was featured on On the Record, that is the documentary about Russell Simmons with the women who are accusing him of rape

and sexual assault. And she's one of the women that's featured on there, and she's told her story before the documentary, and she's told her story and books that she's authored, but not said his name until a couple of years ago. She has said who the person is, and so we'll get into what made her come forward, what made her say the person who assaulted her is Russell Simmons and say his name, and also why she participated in this documentary, what has been the response since then, and why women's

voices need to be heard and led. All Right, So we'll speak with her a little bit later. But now we got front page news. What we're talking about. Well, since we talked about the police, let's talk about this police, this executive action signing that Donald Trump had yesterday at the White House. All Right, we'll get into that next. Keep a lot. This the breakfast club, good morning, earning money, envy, angela ye, Charlemagne, the gad we are the breakfast club.

Let's get in some front page news where we starting yet. Well. Yesterday, Donald Trump was doing an event in the Rose Garden and he was talking about an executive order that he says creates a federal database of police officers with the history of using excessive force. Now, Donald Trump is against

dismantling the police. Here's what he said. Strongly opposed the radical and dangerous efforts to defend, dismantle, and dissolve our police departments, especially now when we've achieved the lowest recorded crime rates in recent history. Without police, there is chaos. Without law, there is anarchy, and without safety, there is catastrophe. Americans believe we must support the brave men and women in blue who police are streets and keep us safe.

Americans also believe we must improve accountability, increase transparency, and invest more resources and police training, recruiting, and community engagement, dismantling the police, though the funding is not dismantling. Nobody said, we don't want any police. We just want the police to be held accountable when they commit violence against us and kill us. And yes, they don't need them big ass budgets. Take some of that money and put it

into the community, nobody said, But some people aren't. Some people are saying to dismantled police department. Some people are calling for I mean, so we can't say no one saying that, Yeah, but that's not what the funding means. Though, like he keeps trying to twist the words defunding the police, that's not what defunding the police means. For some people, they that is what it means. I think it's just you do have to be clear because defund does mean

to take away the funds. And some people they look at anybody, Okay. So another thing that he discussed was he said that it's only a small percentage, a bad huss and he talks about why is he signing this executive order because at no point did he address race racism as the issue. But here's what he said. Reducing

crime and raising standards are not opposite goals. That is white Today, I'm signing an executive order encouraging police department stationwide to adopt the highest professional standards to serve their communities. These standards will be as high and as strong as there is on earth. All Right. The executive void is really nothing to get excited about, I mean, because it's just suggestions. Like I do like some of the things that are in there, like supporting the registry of bad

cops and correspondents in mental health case cases. But it's not a bill, it's just suggestions, suggestions. Okay. Now, you also met with the families. He also met with the families of him at Arebury, both m John Antoine Rose, Jamal Robeson, at Tatiana Jefferson, Michael Dean, Darius Tarver, Cameron Lamb, and Everett Palmer. And according to one person who attended, they said it was very power full. It took place for an hour before he signed the executive order, and

there were a lot of tears in the room. So Kamala Harris, by the way, before we move on from Front page News, she tweeted out, Chump's policing Executive Order is meaningless since to day one, he's used a racially charged rhetoric, all while rolling back efforts to root out racism and policing and virtually abandoning police misconduct investigations. We need real reforms past the Justice and Policing Act. Now, she's right, because it's not a bill. It's not a bill.

You put it in the bill, make the goop passage sign it. Then you got something but those are the executive orders, just suggestions. That's just a whole bunch of pomping circumstance, that's all. He probably just wanted the families in the White House to be able to get a picture with him. To be honest, to me, it looked like he's he cares and he's doing something. Selection season, baby, a lot of dreams being sold. Yeah, cars llesman everywhere

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up this leak man? Hey my card. I'm broke down yesterday. Man, that girl car to word bro could be worse to have a call. You got the walks, Your girl got a car? Yeah yeah, I had to take her car to work. Man. That's embarrassing. What's going on? Charlotte Main and why is her car embarrassing? No, not her car. I'm talking about being broke on the side of the road. Man. That's man, it happens your car broke down. You're not broke on the side of the road. Your car. You

This happens to the best of it. Now it's time. Now it's time to go and get a brand new with up. Man. Right if you guys like that playing play, I don't see the problem you playing about. That's the worst when your car breaks down. I tell you my tire flew off my car one day I was on the side of the highway. It does feel sad and lonely. It does. A couple of weeks ago, I was on the side of road called the Total Up. Come get me. Thanks for calling broth. Hello, who's this Tan from the Bronx? Hey,

le Shan, get it off your chests. Well, I want to know why is it that these cops have to do all these professions that they say they have to do, but yet they requires to have limited education in order to perform it. Hair dresses have to go to school longer to get trained before cops and cops are able to take people live why is that how long police academy? The police have to go to academy. They have to go to academy. I know that the doctor has to go to school for seven years to save a life.

For yet a cops have to go to the academy and they get to kill people. That's okay. How long is academy I don't even know. But yet they have to before they have to be social workers. It's psychia, tricks and all these other professions that yet they don't have the education. That's not okay. Get one of sixty credits because they only required to have sixty credits to be a police officer. Yeah, yeah, I was reading something.

I thought it was this a high school diploma. I was reading something um yesterday and just said, like, it's three years of training in Norway to be a police officer. Three year three year degree is required to become a police officer in Finland, two years of training to become a police officer in Germany. But in the America you just need a high school diploma in twenty one weeks of training one twenty four weeks of training. It's still a high school diploma. Because I know at one time

I thought they moved it up. You need a certain amount of college credits. I'm not sure them. Don't quote me. I just looked at up. It says high school diploma is often the minimum form of education required an associates bachelor's a graduate degree. It's rarely mandatory. M d all right, eight hundred five eight five one oh five one. If you need to vent, hit us up now. Now we got rooms on the way. Ye yes we do. And we'll be talking about Matt Barnes what he has to

say about Kyrie Irving sitting out the NBA season. All Right, we'll get into that next keeping lock this to Breakfast Club. Good morning the Breakfast Club. This is the Rumor Report with Angela Yeast. So, as you know, Kyrie Irving is calling for NBA players to reconsider resuming the season so that players can focus on fighting oppression and so that we don't lose focus. And a lot of people have been critical of that. One person who is critical is

Matt Barnes. Now, he was on his podcast that he does with Stephen Jackson, and here's what he had to say, Kyrie needs to quit, boy, because what I heard was Kyrie wanted to go to Orlando to support his team. They didn't let him, so then he flipped the script, talking, I'm gonna give up everything. Bro. You can give up everything to go do the Mier morning if you really want to. But at the same time, sitting out without a cause or purpose defeats the purpose, and then it

also divides us. I respect people don't want to play because if it's COVID and you're putting your family a risk, I get that. But if it's for the movement of the country right now, we have to take charge of it. Yeah, I mean, I tend to agree with Matt Bonds, like nobody can make me understand why some NBA players think playing would be a distraction from the protest. Like athlete

activism has always been a thing. The demonstrations and things you can do before a game, the comments you can make after a game will only highlight what's going on in the streets. And if you're not absolutely playing, If you are not playing, are you about to dedicate your life the full time activism If that's the case, cool, If not, I don't get it. And the reference that

he had to Maya Moore. Maya Moore is a w NBA star who sat out consecutive seasons to work directly on criminal justice before, and we had talked about that previously. She announced that she was missing a second straight season and the Olympics before they were postponed. It's because she was helping her family friend overturn a fifty year prison sentence. So she show she dedicated her life, correct, she was

on the front Yeah. So so if you dedicate in your life the full time activism, if you're not playing because you want to be out there on the front lines, I get it. If not, I don't get it. All right. Stacy Dash has officially filed for divorce from her fourth husband, Jeffrey Marty. So they were married for two years, almost two years, and she posted the announcement previously. She said, my husband and I have made the hard decision of ending our marriage. After much prayer, I feel this is

the right path for both of us. I wish him nothing but the best. And you know, she was arrested on domestic battery charges, y'all remember when that happened, But she declared after the state attorney did not press charges against her. So I wonder, what's the longest um, what's the longest lease she's had on a husband two year at least this one, Oh boy, that was the two year. Last husband was the two year least. I wonder, what's the longest lease she's ever had on a sheet? Miles?

With that? How many miles did she get it per year? That's what I'm saying. I wonder when when did she realize it's time to turn it in and get into one? Right? Well, that one's about to be over, fourth one, all right? And Jacole, you know what, I woke up this morning and I saw Jay Cole and Kendrick were trending. I don't understand why. Still, I was trying to figure it out.

I mean, j Cole, I know, he put out a new song and we're gonna play that actually, yes, Snow on the Bluff, and that's his first song of twenty twenty, so you know, he's discussing everything that's been happening. It's interesting because I just interviewed Neo for Lift Service. That episode just came out yesterday, and he was saying, one artist who he really wants to work with right now is Jay Coole, especially to do a song about everything

that's happening right now. And Black Lives Matter, and Jay Coole just did that himself with Snow on the Bluff, so I think we should play that. And still, yeah, we don't appreciate Snow on the Bluff like we should not the actual movie, classic phenomenal film. Man, we do not appreciate that movie like we should. I'm gonna be honest now, I like that. I love Snow on the Bluff. Everybody should go watch Now on the Bluff at least once in your life. It's kind of like the Hood

Blair Witch Project. Remember how he didn't ripped. Well, I didn't know if the Blair Which project was real at first because I saw a documentary about it before it aired. So I was like, wow, somebody actually was walking around with his camera and captured this footage. I thought that about Snow on the Bluff as well. Well. Shout out to Curtis Snow from Snow and the Bluff. That's right, classic film, you got, Curtis. All right, Well, I'm angela Ye,

and that's your realm. More important, let's get into Jacole's new song, Snow on the Bluff Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, angela Ye, Charlomagne, the guy we are to breakfast club. Let's get in some front page news where we're starting. You, Well, let's start which Donald Trump's police perform executive order. What

is in it? A new database for police misconduct? He said, They will establish a new national database of police officers with the history of using excessive force, mental health corresponders. They are directing the Secretary of Health and Human Services to encourage police departments to embed mental health professionals as corresponders on calls related to mental health, homelessness, and addiction, and also directing to help police department find funds to

hire this personnel. And banning chokeholds, but technically not really so what they said under this executive order is that chokeholds will be banned except when an officer's life is at risk, and the only police departments that choose to get certified would have to comply with that standard. Yeah, because I saw people saying that there is no banning chokeholds initiative in his executive order. Actually saw Maya Harris tweeted that out. But I mean, the executive arder is

really nothing to get excited about. It's just suggestions, you know. I do like some of those things that are in there, you know, supporting the registry of bad cops. Definitely to respond is in mental health cases. But it's not a bill. If you put it in a bill, make the goop passing, and then sign it, then we'll have something to talk about. That executive order that is nothing but symbolism. A trust

police officers. If you don't know their record, if you don't know that their past, if you don't know if they had previous report, it's like that has to be public knowledge. I mean, if they pull me over, they know my past, they know my history. We should know everybody's history, honestly. Yeah, And you can't say that you're banning choke holds unless you know officer's life. Then you're not really banning choke holds. Correct, it's not really banned.

All right. Now, let's discuss Ray Shard Brooks. He was killed by an Atlanta police officer outside the Wendy's restaurant after failing a sobriety test. Then he fought with two officers and took a taser from one and ran away. Well, now they are saying, according to the police union president,

that shooting was justified under Georgia law. So they said the taser is not a deadly weapon when used by a trained individual because a trained individual knows where to aim it, but an untrained individual does not, and then it becomes a deadly weapon at that point. In addition, you know, Gayner said that could he carjack somebody? Could he be scared so that he's going to kidnap somebody in another car? Is he going to hurt a civilian. There's a lot of things that come into play that

you have to play out. And I am responsible for this person. I was going to arrest and he now has a weapon that I provided him because he took it from me. So they are saying justified, lawful. No, there's nothing justified about that killing. I heard so many different things. I heard that, uh, once the taser and maybe I'm wrong, but they said once the tas is discharged, it can't be discharged again. And they said that. I

heard that. Then I also heard that, um. I heard that when he was running away they could have It's one of those things where the taser is I guess you have to be within four feet of the person, and it was further than four feet. There's there's so many correlations in different things that I've heard about that you know, But where they fired, I think they resigned one of them reasons. I think I thought one was

and the other one was. Yeah, the officer who shot Garrett Rolph was fired after the footage showed him shooting up Brooks small ul times and the other officer, well, the police chief resigned, but the police chief wasn't there, but the police chief did resign. I know officers have multiple weapons on them, why not have a gun with

rubber bullets for a situation like that? If you gotta, you know, gun somebody down from the back, why can't you use rubber bullets the same bullets you use on protesters? You know what I mean? Why does it have to be real bullets? And how do you justify How did somebody you know, snatching your tais and running justify you shooting them in the back and killing them. I don't

understand that lot. Well, see that's that's something different than there's no way that that one man should be able to overpower them to police officers and take his weapon. But having an additional weapon, that would be a lot because you think about it, I mean, it would look like Rambo. I mean you'd you'd have a real gun, you'd have a gun with bullets. Then you'll have a chaser, and then you have a paton. Like it's kind of like, do you want to confuse the costs with all those

those choices to shoot me? You giving them giving them police budgets anyway, so they might with that. I want to talk about another start. I don't know if you'all heard this, but this also happened in Georgia, and these moms were pleading with a cop who was holding these kids at gunpoint. The cop was by himself. He had gotten a report that a group of kids had a gun and we're fighting in the stores parking lot. Listen to this, please sar, please go shoot go shoot, shoot, sar. Please.

And so the moms were pleading with the police officer to put the gun down and to make sure that nothing happened. And it was a group of I think like thirty people that were there just telling the police officer why you got a gun out? They are kids, their kids. So it was a seventeen minute video and they did the children did emit. They were teenagers, that they had a BB gun and they had thrown the gun in the bushes and so, and it resembles a semi automatic pistol. But I don't know what are you

do in that situation. I mean, in that situation, you gotta understand, when the police get a phone call at somebody has a gun, they're automatically thinking that somebody has a gun, so they have to make sure that nobody has that weapon. That's why they told them to put their hands up, and that's why he read it for backup,

to make sure somebody patted them down. In that situation, when you get a phone call and you say that, that's why you know, when we go back to community people, and that's when you know, if somebody in that community like like, oh, Ray Ray, come here, Ray Ray, what you got on? You know what I mean, that's where it comes to that. But when a cop comes to a neighborhood and don't know these kids and they get a call for a gun, I mean, they got to

protect themselves as well. In this case. Yeah, but we've seen them get that horribly wrong too. I mean, Rice was a kid, you know what I'm saying, with a toy gun at a park or that. We'll always a time eight. I think I don't know how you're a kid, you know what you're supposed to be twenty. I think sometime this week cops pulled up, just jumped out by't even assessed the situation nothing. They just got to call some kids in the park with a gun and they

pulled up shooting. So I don't know, it's complicated, Jesus christ Man. Well, that is your friend. That's made is somebody losing their life. Absolutely well, that is your front page news. I'm Angela Yee. All right, thank you, miss Ye. Now when we come back, yesterday, Yee had an opportunity

to speak with still Alie Abrams. You want to explain what that conversation was about you, Yes, well, Russell Simmons did have a platform to come up here and discuss and defend himself from the accusations against sim and still Lie Abrams is one of the women who has said that Russell Simmons actually she says that he raped her. And so we wanted to make sure that these women also had that equal platform to just say what they have to say and express themselves. So we wanted to

make sure we gave Sillye Abrams that platform. So We had a very enlightening discussion on black women, how women are treated, the sexual violence and all of that. All right, we'll get into that next, so don't move. It's to Breakfast Club. Good Morning, the Breakfast Club Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the God. We all the Breakfast Club. Now we have a special guest, Angela Ye.

Got a chance to speak with sil Lie Abrams. Yes, she was featured on the Record that is a documentary with She's one of the women who's accusing Russell Simmons of assault of rape. Actually in her situation, it was rape, and she talks about her situation and she's going to give you all of this firsthand. We wanted to make sure she had the platform. So here we go. We interviewed Russell Simmons last week and you appeared in the On the Record documentary that's on HBO Max, and we're

going to talk all about that. But we did see on social media that you did not appreciate that interview. So I do want to give you the platform here to respond to what happens with that Russell Simmons interview and also to be able to have the platform to tell you a story. So let's just get that over with first. You know, I understand that everybody's entitled to tell their story. Everyone's entitled to share their side of things.

What was incredibly painful for me as a survivor was being silenced for so long and the first time that Russell pops up is on a show with such a reach as The Breakfast Club, and that he was unchallenged essentially throughout the entire interview. And not only was he unchallenged and allowed to perpetuate a lot of very harmful myths around rape and around the women that have accused him, but it was very retraumatizing. It was a traumatic experience

because we didn't have an opportunity to speak. There's been this huge vortex of silence around the film within the black community, which in large part I believe has been managed and negotiated by him. He's a man with incredible power, and so Russell is the Harvey Wine scene of the hip hop community. He even prior to Harvey being convicted, Harvey had become a pariah because of the multiple allegations

by so many different women against him. But those same standards don't apply to our community with r Kelly or anyone else that has perpetuated these types of crimes by Bill Casby or Bill Cosby, we ride or dive for

them until the end. And I get that. We can get into that later, but just specifically, why I've been so vocal is because there is a tremendous responsibility that comes with having the privilege of the position that your show has, and at times the show hasn't done right by the community that it says it long and so in this case, it was it was just wrong. It was just like it was just not a good look

and it was painful. Well, I will say this, as soon as HBO reached out to me to have the women from on the record on the show, I responded immediately and said absolutely. And that was the first time anyone had reached out to me. And so because I had done I may destroy you a campaign with that with them, they had my information and hit me up directly, and so as soon as I was asked, there was no question. So I believe that I would say the Breakfast Club is not perfect, as I don't feel like

any platform gets it right all the time. But I know and I can speak I think on behalf of all of us that you know, we do try to make sure that we uplift our community in many different ways, and if things are triggering, I do apologize for that because that's never my intention for that to happen. And so that's why I want to make sure and I would have given you this space regardless if that interview happened or not. It was just that the way that it works. It's not that we reached out to anyone

for an interview. People reach out to us normally, and that's usually how interviews are booked, and so you know, and you're right, like I do feel like the documentary. I reported on it multiple times. I played the trailer you know, in my roomor report, and we talked about Oprah when she signed on to do it, we talked about it when she decided not to do it, and

then when it got picked up by HBO Max. So while I do feel like a lot of platforms hadn't been even covering that this documentary happened, it was something that we have discussed and I have put in my roomor report as things unraveled. So I just want to put that out there for you, and I do want to talk about that, since you brought it up with the documentary, just what happened with Oprah, because we've heard that she felt like the stories were conflicting and she

couldn't sign on. She does believe the women, she said, but you feel like they were too many contradictions. So can you, from your own space talk about what happened before I go there, I just want to say that, according to our side, there was outreach that began at

the top of May. Now whether or not that went from the specific booker at your show, I don't know how many bookers there are, I don't know, but I know that the outreach had begun because we all know if there is a film anything of any import, people want to go on the Breakfast Club to talk about it. We know if we want to reach Black America, you come here, which is why Joe Biden comes on here presidential nominee. So yeah, I just wanted to touch on

that because there might be a little miscommunication there. But as far as Oprah's pulling out, there was a lot of reporting around the drama on that preceded the release of the film, and I get it. It's tantalizing people want to know, Oh, well, what's going on. Oprah said that there's some inconsistencies with this person. And you've got a campaign that's happening with fifty seven and Russell Simmons's

operating on social media and people. You've got people from other communities who are just diving in saying this is just another attempt to take out a black man and we can't let this happen. But all of this is occurring, and people are forgetting Hello, there are survivors involved here, and we're collateral damage. And so Oprah choosing to step back, that's her prerogative. I wasn't in the room. She stayed it in the New York Times. She said on TV

her issue would created differences period. She also said that she believed us, and so I believe that she has a right to do whatever she wants with her money and with her platform. I also think it's incredibly disingenuous for Russell to come on the show last week and start to invoke Oprah like, oh oh, oh, Oprah, She's so wonderful, when Oprah straight up just said nah, like you had nothing to do with this, Like your whatever you're saying to try and imply that Oprah is co

signing you. That's not fair because you also know Miss Oprah Winfrey is not going to come back out to relitigate something that's in the past. That's irrelevant. What's important is the fact that I saw one article for an Okay player, a tweet about how our film almost became an urban legend, one of those. And really it's been this very skittish road to get here because of the fact that there has been so much controversy. So it

wasn't painful. Yeah, the whole damn experience has been painful since I chose to come forward, going back in twenty seventeen. But that is the price that survivors pay when they choose to tell their stories, irrespective of how powerful their perpetrator is. All right, when we come back, we got more with sil Lie Abrams, so don't move. It's to Breakfast Club. Good morning morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela, Yee, Charlomagne the guy we are the Breakfast Club. Were still

speaking with Abrams. Angela, you got a chance to speak with her yesterday. Let's get back into the interview and

you can see the documentary on the record on HBO Max. Now, you know what I've read a lot about what you've been through and how Joyanne Reid was supposed to interview you, and you had given her your story which she was writing, and she was doing to sit down an interview with you, and you had to provide all kinds of receipts to improve that what you said happened to you did indeed happen, and then the story never ended up going on air,

and I know that had to be difficult. And then you know, we're talking about your son sitting next to you, and that was one of the most heartbreaking scenes. Was and I don't even want to bring things up, but I know for people who haven't seen it that are listening right now, you know you did detail having to be taken to the hospital and kissing her son goodbye because you didn't even want to be here anymore after that happened. Was that the first time he had heard

about that. It was the first time that he knew the details. And that's the thing that, let me be clear, I didn't tell. I mean I told there were people who were present that day immediately after the assault, people from Russell's camp that came to be with my son. There are people that my friends that took me to the hospital, and I never thought that it would go further than that. You know what, mother wants to tell their child about something that painful, something that I still

have a lot of mixed feelings about. But you know what, sexual violence not only impacts the individual who is hurt, it impacts their families. You know, when we talk about the restorative justice model or the transformative justice model, the first thing that has to occur is for a perpetrator to acknowledge the harm that they've done, not only to the victim, but to the victim's family, to the community, and to the society at large. And you cannot even

begin a dialogue of healing without first having accountability. That's what's missing in this is that Russell did apologize to me at Mumba a couple of years later, and this is detail in the Hollywood Reporter piece. He did he change person now? Right? He said he's changed, and he was alluding to being fully sober and also I guess having a different mindset around what consent is, I guess, But he happened to be having dinner with Donald Trump, you know, I mean so it's like and I just

stopped him. I was just like, first off, he blindsided me because my sister had died of a drug overdose a couple months before. That's what he approached me to say, I'm sorry, I heard about your sister. I just she Melee was a really good girl. And I was so raw, like you could have knocked me over. And I was just so glad someone, anyone would acknowledge that my sister died of a drug overdose because nobody wants to talk about that. Had he not started with my sister, I

would have walked away. I had nothing to say. But your question encompassed a lot. You mentioned joy read and I don't know. I'm not going to guess why, but I'll say that my story was vetted, it went through it passed standers and practices at NBC. I have receipts. It was just NBC, as we saw with Ronning Pharaoh

and other stories. They have their own ongoing issues within that news organization of how they handle sexual harassment and misconduct and Russell's attorneys strong arms, and I mean it went all the way to the top, to the head of the news divisions and of the company so that's the power he has to shut something down. And so when by the time I finally to the Hollywood Reporter, the story morphed and it became one that was about how of me too story is killed? And that's what's unfortunate,

is that it no longer becomes something linear. Is well, why did you come forward? You know everyone came out in November December, and here it is June, almost July, and now your story is breaking. Well, it's not my fault. It's because I got hemmed up. But the Hollywood Reporter had all the access to all of the same information that NBC did, and yes, they were pressured by Russell's attorneys and they ran it. They ran it and there has not been any civil suit. And to Russell's point

last week, I've never filed the civil suit. I never wanted anything from him. But what I will not do is be complicit in silencing survivors, nor will I be silenced. Think about it. The privilege that I have, the many levels of privilege that I have, of the relationships within the industry, of having a certain attorney, all this stuff that I have at my disposal is what allowed my story to end up being published after it was killed by one news outlet. And you know how it works.

When your story gets squashed at one news outlet, the bar is set double as high to get published that with another one. And so again, I keep thinking about all of rape is a crime that happens in private. It happens in the private sphere, but it's litigated often in the public, and so many victims don't have receipts right, And I think people are awesome mistakenly think that because you cannot get convicted right after getting a kised. But

that doesn't necessarily mean it didn't happen. A lot of people will say, well, the charges got drapped or it didn't happen, and a lot of times that doesn't necessarily mean the person is innocent. You know that we as a people know that police brutality committed against black people is an epidemic. We know even if the media doesn't

report on it, which it hasn't forever. It's only now because we have our own cameras and making the news through social media that people are really starting to see the extent of the harm that's been done to us for centuries. We know what happens to our people because we know how corrupt the system is and it's stacked against us, So we don't question when police brutality occurs,

we accepted as truth. But when a black woman says that she's been sexually violated, and when you look at all the statistics we know it's a global women's health epidemic, it's all of a sudden, Well, you know, she's lying,

she wants something, she's a hole, she was drunk. All of these rapemisters employed, and I'm like, this is why I think, in the middle of the movement for black lives that's occurring, why the death of toy In Salow just hits right at that intersection of what we're talking about about a black woman speaking up and using her voice on a platform like social media to talk about the fact that she had been assaulted, and then the very person who she trusted to provide her some type

of care ends up hurting her and then her body is discovered. There are parallels that exist in many women's lives where we know that the majority of crimes happened between people who know each other, whether it's domestic violence or intimate partner abuse, and especially rape and sexual assault all right, well, old move, we got more with sil Lie Abrams. It's the Breakfast Club. Good Morning Morning, everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the Gay We are

the Breakfast Club. Now yesterday, Angela Yee got a chance to kick it with sil Lie Abrams. Yes sel Lia Abrams has accused the Russell Simmons of rape and you get to hear what happened to her firsthand. And she's also featured on the record, which is on HBO. Max has been can rape their wives. Some people don't feel like that's even possible, right, They were like, well, you're married, so that can't happen. But the truth of the matter is I know women who will tell you that they've

been raped by their husband. And then I think when that happens, it's difficult to speak up because you feel ashamed. You also know that people will say, well, you know, you guys are married, so if you you've already had sex, you already have kids, Like, I don't see how that's

even possible. But then when you hear the violence that occurred, and I think, especially when it happens to somebody you know, I think we all know a woman or women, multiple women who who have been sexually assaulted and will never speak up about it or never tell this story. I can't think of too many people who don't have a story to tell. Certain people who have questioned me because Russell and I had dated before I look, I put it all out on the table. I had to say

that he and I had Kis it right? Consentually creates me? Yeah, it had, you had a boyfriend, it ended, and we were supposed to be friends forever, according to him. And so like last week when he's talking about all his friends, how he's still friends with all these women, I might, well, I was your friend. I trusted you, and now we're not friends because you violated me and you destroyed our friendship. And that is something that it's still hard to wrap

your head around. You know, years later, I think about my time working in entertainment and in media, and I think hearing all of the horror stories to your point that many women share privately but will never share publicly. I'm lucky it was only two men. When you think about all of the allegations that have come up, and all of the conversations and the whisper talks that we have amongst each other where we don't come forward and talk about what's really going down in the industry, right,

and how nobody is holding the perpetrators accountable. And that's where I think that media outlets, by at least providing an opportunity to hear the voices of survivors, can level the field. How does it fail then that people still legally have to say allegations because as you know, Restsell Simmons is saying he took a lot of detective tests, he hasn't been charged with anything, and so legally it still is considered allegations. And that others the to you

to have. How many women have come forward so far? I mean it depends upon what you're talking about. I believe it's six or seven who publicly accused him of rape, and then the rest are various forms of sexual misconduct

and harassment, which I guess in total is twenty. I mean, as far as allegations, news media has got to cover their behind, right, So legally, you can't get sued if you eat, don't ry allegedly allegedly, right, And so you know, I have accused him publicly of assault, and so I don't have an issue with the fact that people say allegations.

What I have a problem with is when your identity as a survivor becomes secondary to that of your perpetrator simply because he is famous, even around everything that happened last week, it was, you know, Russell Simmons rape accuser last breakfast club, and I'm like, I have a name, and if you go back, I have an identity, I have professional bona fides. I'm not just an accuser. Don't minimize and marginalize me and tie me into the headline

of who this man is. Because that was a big part of my decision not to include his name in my first book, because I explicitly outline what happened. But I gave a pseudonym in the book because I never wanted because I'm painfully aware that there are people who think that the reason why I've achieved any type of success is because of the way that I look. And let's be real, I have certain privileges that have helped make things easier. But you don't stay in the game

just because you look cute. You've got to actually be able to bring something to the table. You have to know your as they say, and so with respect to my identity getting erased and all survivors getting erased. Like, I get it. It happens to people. I see it all the time. I'm just very sensitive to it because I remember the night before my story dropped, I went

on Google and I screenshot. I did a search and I screenshot my name, and it was like, rest in peace to sly Abrams, nationally recognized domestic violence awareness activists, because henceforth you're going to be known as a woman who accused Russell Simmons of great And that's nothing that I ever wanted. I didn't want my work to be built around the identity of a man that had hurt me. I did not want, and certainly not as a feminist. I certainly was not going to try par lay this

into any type of what did he say? He said last week? He said, to be famous or infamous? Who the hell wants to be infamous or not? For that? What do you win? What could Russell do? Now? Is there anything? I want accountability? If we're not able to navigate the criminal justice system, because what happened between us is outside of the statute of limitations. And to be

very clear, like, let me bring you back. I chose not to press charges at the time because I was drunk that night, because of the fact that he and I did have a prior sexual relationship, and because I was terrified because of the imbalanced empower and money between us and what happened in the examination room. So I was scared. Now today, as a woman who is going to be turning fifty in a month, what does the grown ask woman want? What I want is a chance

to begin restorative justice. I want Russell to actually stop the pantomime of being an innocent and truly acknowledge the harm that he's done and then start to make the amends to the individuals and the community that he continues to harm by peddling mistruth that he ends up contradicting

himself on. So, like, just pointing to the interview last week, he said that he misinterpreted what happened with Jenny, right, And I'm like, dude, you just said in essence that you raped her, Like that's what you said, right, I mean, I guess I got my signals crossed. Well, if Jenny says it wasn't consensual and you don't know what consent is, well I'm sorry that right, there was an admission of some sort, even in the case of me, a drunk

woman can't consent, right. It's my hope that having this conversation is an opportunity, to your point, to try and shift the needle and get something right. By us having this dialogue on the heels of what happened last week,

at least there's some contexts. And I can't speak for the other survivors, but I can say that I am appreciative of this conversation and of this opportunity because you all have tremendous power and you help shape culture, but there are parts of our culture that absolutely have to change. And letting people come on and not be interrogated on their behavior, that's not cool. That's not going to bring about any liberation. That's not black love. That's not accountability.

And when you love someone, you hold them accountable. So I do appreciate you for taking the time to come on this platform. I know you are on the board for the National Domestic Violence Hetline, and you were on the board for a Safe Horizon, So just so people know that there are safe spaces that they can go to if they do need to seek out help and support, absolutely, and they call the Sexual Assault the National You can contact Brain as well, which is a national sexual assault hotline.

I mean urban times where I've just picked up and called either one. I called Safe Horizon not too long ago and just said I need to talk because the pressure of being of going through something like this, I just need to anonymously speak to someone and just say this is really hard. I'm having a hard time handling this. And it's been twenty five years, right, but so much appreciated, and we will definitely make sure we stay in touching. If you need our platform, make sure you let me know.

All right, thank you, thank you, Sail Abrahams. All right, take care boarding. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We all to Breakfast Club. Let's get to the rooms. Let's talk Will Smith. Okay, are you ready to watch the bulls Smith? It's about Angela Ye, the Breakfast Club. Okay, are you ready to watch the bus. Smith's starting a new movie as a runaway slave. Why not? It's Will Smith. Will Smith gets busy on that screen. Well,

the new movie is called Emancipation. It'll be directed by Antoine foo Quads, based on a true story, and Will Smith is playing Peter, a runaway slave for us to flee and outwit slave hunters on his journey to the Union Army and his only chance of freedom. Now I've said I'm a record saying I'm tired of seeing slave more. Yes, you are, only because only because they show us, you know,

being the victims all the time, which we were. But I'm intrigued about this one because it's based off that classic picture we always see with the brothers showing the whelps on his back. Right, if I'm not mistaken, I think I read that yesterday. I'm interested. All right, Well, that production is going to start early in twenty twenty one. Now. Will Smith is also starring in a Father's Day documentary called Dads alongside Keenan Thompson, and it will be available

on an Apple TV Plus June nineteen. More stories of black liberation that don't have to do with slavery. But yeah, all right, speaking of Dads, let's talk about Deja Harris. And you know, I actually was watching Ti and Tiny Friends and Family Hustle and this is the hymen Gate episode where ti it is comments about taking his daughter to the gynecologists and making sure that her hyman is still intact. Well, here is what Deja had to say she found out while they were on vacation in Mexico.

My heart sank very shocked, hurt, angry, embarrassed by be honest for real, that he goes to the Ghyana coologists with you to make sure that you're feel aversion. Yeah, he goes, Well, what we want you to do is talk to him about it. Man, I'm not gonna be able to really get through to him like connect here. Yeah. He always plays big, honestly, So like, are you angry? I just don't really care to be around him right now. Do you feel like this is not going to put

a frame over it? Come on, No, this situation is just a little traumatizing for me. Yeah. I hate the fact that she has to relive that, you know, especially being as she said it was traumatic. I'm sure it was. So I hate to see people have to relive trauma. Yeah, And there's a certain conversations in a certain situations you

just want to keep in the household, you know. And I blazed a lot with my daughter too, and you know what too, I was watching it and I did feel real like she was, you know, breaking down about to cry, and he didn't really want to like apologize or approach her about it and ruining the trip and

things like that, so it was very difficult to watch. Yeah, I just don't want my daughter's him and to be your entertainment, because that's what it turns out to be, right, Like, even if you're even if if Tip had the best intentions, which I'm sure he did, it still ends up being

somebody's entertainment because it's on television, you know what I mean. Yeah, Well, that's what happens when you have a show and you talk about your family and your life so much, but you sometimes you don't realize you know, well you do realize what's going to be, you know, really hurt your daughter's feelings, you know what I mean. I've been through that too with my daughter. I said some stuff that my daughter didn't like and I had to have a

conversation and apologize to it. It is a process being having daughters. I got three daughters. Having daughters is like having a landmine, right because you don't know when you might step. It caused them them to blow up, and it's not like it was your intention, you know, it's like, oh my god, you know right, and you know, and I said this at the time. I think as a young as a woman, and I know when I was

a young girl. You know where you are very there's a lot to do with women's bodies, and you don't want to be invasive over things like that because I can't affect somebody forever. So it's just really important to listen to women. Listen to what your daughters have to say, and make them feel empowered and let them know their body is their body and they control that. And have trust.

You know, you have to be able to trust that you raise your daughters in the right way and that they'll make smart decisions when you're not around and you don't have to check their hymen. All right, I'm angela yee and that is your christ Oh my god. Yes, well all right, all right, we'll give me a donkey. We need Vice President Mike Pence to come to the front of the congregation. We like to have a world with them. I and also ask ye it don't drip

five five one or five one. If you need relationship advice, you and hit e right now with the Breakfast Club. Good morning, Charlemaine say the gang. Don't get out a shape man you are Donkia Today does not discriminate. I might not have the song of today, but I got to donkey that, if ever I need to be a Donkey man, give it with the eyes the breakfast club bitch.

I just don't give Today today. Donkia Today for Wednesday, June seventeenth, goes to the leader of the Trump Administration's coronavirus task for us, the Vice President and worst sidekick since Aquaman had Aqua Girl, Mike Pince. Oh. Yes, I come from the era of Aquaman being highly uncool, not the Lisa Bonaide and Niece Huxtable husband version y'all have now.

I come from the era of Aquaman being a laughing stock and having a sidekick named Aqua Girl who was killed off in a mini series called Crisis on Infinite Earth, and ironically, Aqua Girl drowned. You know how trash you have to be if your only superpower is being able to breathe on the water and you die by drowning. Were you ever really a superhero? Anyway? Google it so you can see how trash and pathetic her character was, and you won't understand why Mike Pence is the worst

sidekick since Akua Girl. Now, Donald Trump is having a clan rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma, this weekend, the twenty if our belief the rallies are a big part of Trump galvanizing support. He goes out, He tries his new stand up routine for the MAGA crowd, makes a few jokes, tells a lot of lies, hands out a few false promises, and asked to see you in November at the polls. Well, that disease they keep down playing COVID last name nineteen because put a halt to a lot of those rallies.

So Trump has to get back out there and rally the clan okay, or the first one since the pandemic happened is this weekend in Oklahoma, and people want to know is it safe? How do you social distance at a clan rally? Now? Mask or optional? All right? Even the hooded ones at Trump's rally, which confuses the hell out of me because I've been told one of the main ways to stop transmission of the viruses to wear a mask. Okay, what does the Trump administration have against

wearing masks? Mask are actually great for the Trump administration number one. The magamask would not only be insanely popular and a best seller. It's so much easier to lie with a mask on because people can't see your face being able to read facial expressions to detect lies. A magamask will cover that up. A magamask will hide that false smile. Donald Trump, does you know that false smile? He does just with his mouth and nothing else moves.

Magamask hide that. Magamask could hide the fact that sometimes people push their lips to counteract the dry mouth that comes with lying. Okay, sometimes people blush when they're lying. Donald Trump does it all the time. That's why he turns bright orange. Magamask will cover all of that. Okay. A magamask will keep us from reading Trump's facial expressions when he lies. So why are they against mask at

his rallies? I have no idea. Now, clearly people don't feel safe about attending this rally for obvious coronavirus virus related reasons. So Mike Pinch, being the Jenkie concert promoter that he is, decided to do what most Jenkie concert promoters do, and that's lie to make people feel comfortable enough to come. Now, Mike pinch Told reported on Monday afternoon that numbers for the virus in Oklahoma had declined.

In fact, he didn't just say declined. He used the word I have never heard Ti R. Stephen A. Smith used, And that word is precipitously. Did I pronounced that right, ANGELI ye, precipitously sounds right. Well, you asked me please precipitously. All right, Let's listen to what Mike pins had to say. President and I both spoken to Governor Kevin Stood in

the last several days and even earlier today. And Oklahoma has really been in the forefront of our efforts to slow the spread, and in a very real sense, they flattened the curve. And today their hospital capacity is abundant. The number of cases in Oklahoma's declined precipitously, and we feel very confident going forward. Now. Precipitously means very steeply, so it's really really, really declined. Huh. Well, you know what.

The celebrity and a chief, Donald Trump, didn't use the word precipitous sleep I had too big a word for him, but he said basically the same thing. Let's listen, Well, Oklahoma has done very well. I just spoke to the governor. He's very excited about it. Oklahoma is at a very low number. They've done really fantastic work. But Oklahoma has been a place that I think one of the reasons we chose it is because of how well that because it's early, because of what a great job the governor

and everybody else has done in Oklahoma. Okay, both Mike Pence and Donald Trump say it is all good in Oklahoma. For their clan rally Maska optional including your hooded ones. What they said this about coronavirus declining steeply on Monday, Well, what is the actual coronavirus forecast in Oklahoma? What is actually going on with coronavirus in Oklahoma? For asking one simple question, here have cases in Oklahoma declined precipitously. Let's go to Koco ABC file for the report police. In fact,

cases have done just the opposite. Another record increase today, the one week average now higher than it was back when the outbreak first peaked, some suggesting could this be because of more testing. In fact, total testing is down over the past two weeks compared to the two weeks before. Just listen to that. The same day, Mike pinchon Donald Trump said that Oklahoma is declining steeply. I'm tired of pronouncing precipitously. Tosa County sees highest single day increase in

coronavirus cases since the pandemic began. Pinch and Trump absolutely need to wear a mask, not just to spread, not just to stop the transmission of the virus, but to hide their lying ass facial expressions. Okay, America is on autopilot. We've been on autopilot. We just freestyle, and this is a game of rhyme antics. Whatever the last word is that was uttered, find a way to freestyle it. I don't care if it was Corona police brutality protests. Now

back to Corona. Just pick a word and find something that rhymes with it. I am tired, Okay, I don't know what to do in regard the Corona. I am confused. I envy folks who are yolo with it. I envy folks who don't believe in it and think it's a conspiracy theory and just be throwing caution to the win and just be out chair. When I'm not one of those people, I'm still in the house. Okay. The way my anxiety is set up. The whole family is still quarantine.

We might venture out towards the end of this month to go to another state where coronavirus cases of spiking, and that's South Carolina, But I don't know. All I would tell Oklahoma in every place where cases of spiking is this simple advice given to me by every older black person in my license I was a child. Never trust the white man. That quote maybe a broad generalization, but in the case of Donald Trump and Mike Pince, it's absolutely true. Please let Kathy Griffin give aqua girl

aka Mike Pence the biggest he hall. Please give this giant jar of male the biggest he hall. Yeah, man, never trust the white man. Simple advice that could save your life. And also too, I want to tell h South Carolina this Friday, and this Friday and Saturday, I'll be doing a free COVID nineteen drive through testing. Okay at Benedict Collegist Charles W. Johnson Stadium from ten am to three pm just Friday, June nineteenth, from Saturday, June twenty.

If it's free COVID nineteen drive through testing, and when you pull up and get tested, we'll give you an essential supplies packet which includes a face mask and hand sanitizer, soap, educational materials. And you know why you can trust me because I'm not a white man. All right, thank you for that. Donkey of the day. Up next, ask ye eight hundred five A five one oh five one. If you need relationship advice, any type of advice, call ye

right now. It's the Breakfast Club. Go back, what what? What? What you wanna know? Baby mama issues, sneak some words of wisdom. Call up now for asking eight hundred five A five one oh five one, Breakfast Club. Come on, new relationship advice? Need personal advice, just the real advice? Call up now for asking. Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela, Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We all the Breakfast Club. It's time for asking. Ye. Hello, who's this? Yeah? This kad Katie.

What's up? Bro? What's your question for? You? Really was really mad last week? Uh my ex wife we got a divorce. We uh, we stopped saying with each other when we moved. She's in the military. We moved to another state and au gusts. That's when we split up. Divorce was done in October and then last week I found out that she moved in a guy in December to live with her and my kids. And I just

found it out last week. I found out by um because in our divorce years uh uh, and I decreed that basically, when you were in a relationship or you starting one, that one the background chick gotta be sent and we post to meet the person, not approve of them, but just to meet the person. And basically, come December, I saw a picture of hers and one of my people sent me one of her Facebook posts of her taking a picture with a god, and then my kids

were taking a picture in the same area. So I asked, I said, is this guy but you got a guy around my kids? I haven't met him, and she was like, well, yeah, that's my fault. It was my birthday. I wanted to do that, whatever, whatever, And I'm like, okay. Then we moved on. Two days after that, I go on her page and then go look at his page on Facebook

and see that he's taking pictures around her house. And then I asked her two days later, as this guy stand with you, and she's finally gonna sit that miss that the guys staying there. Then when this prandemic hits. Because I'm working, I decided not to be around my kids because I used to have my on the weekend. I was like, no, she's in the military and she's not working. They super quarantine, that's what I'm thinking. But find out last week there's a man living in the

house with my kids who's going to work. And she didn't say not one word to me. Wow, that's really really disrespectful. Yeah, I don't know what other way. I don't. I don't know what to do because if that was the shoe was on the other foot, or I would be all up in court. As soon as I found out that the guy even was around my kids. I met him eight SAP, with him five minutes. I can't say you've mad hand now, Oh yeah, I'm at him. I wasn't mad at him because it wasn't his fault.

And guy didn't even know that. Guy didn't even know that I didn't know. He was like, broy even though you didn't know I was there. But she with him for a while before she moved him in. I do not even know. So legally, if you wanted to, legally you could you could take her to court for this does, and that's what I gotta like. My my people was like, yeah, the lord's just gonna take your money. N I mean, look, so how do you so? Okay? So you don't have a problem with the guy. You just don't like the

fact that she didn't follow what y'all had agreed upon. Yeah, she did not follow me leaving the person. That's all I want to do. And I met him, I told him, I deal, he agreed those ope issues. Well, at this point, you don't want to take her to court. You don't want to pay a lawyer and do all of those things and make this that type of situation. But she is definitely dead wrong and you need to express to her.

Look at this point right now, you've done what you did, but this was not what our agreement was, and I'm not comfortable with how you went about things, and you need to have a conversation about that so that in the future she's respectful of what she needs to do as somebody who you know, you are a parent to those children as well, so you guys have shared responsibilities and because you are respectful to what you guys agreed upon,

she needs to respect that as well. And you need to make sure I'm moving forward, because the main thing I would think is the children, right, It's not really about her. It's about you making sure your children are safe and that you know what's going on in their lives, and you need to let her know that. No, and I've done that. My saying is that this is not like the first Foot incident, that you just do what

you want. The problem is that you do whatever you want that zero consequence maybe, but this is something that you need to just make sure that you document so that in the future and let her not be like, look, I am documenting these things and the next time that something like this happens, I will take you to court. She's the most farder call a first hurt. Hopefully they

I mean that Scar's military PY for some reason. I don't know why I would consult with the lawyer, not that you're gonna take it to court right now, just so that you know what your options are, and then if there's some way that you can go on the record so that you have all of these things, even if you send her an email just detailing everything and letting her know I have an issue with you violating what our agreement was these are the things that you did,

and I'm giving you right now warning that if you do something else without following what we agreed upon, then I will pursue a legal recourse. I would do that so that you that way, you have documented, and that if she does something else, she knows that there will be some repercussions, because it feels like there's no repercussions, so she's just going rogue. Yah. All right, good luck,

Thank you brother. All Right, ask ye eight hundred five eighty five one oh five one if you need relationship advice, hee, Right now, it's the breakfast Club. Go Morningna, keep read some real advice with Angela. Yet's ask Ye morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela, Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We are the breakfast Club. It's time to ask yee. Hello? Who's this? I want to remain anonymous? All right, what's your name? Mike? Well, you almost said your name. I'm just joking. I'm just joking, man.

What's your question for you? Bro? All right? I'm I'm I'm a male about thirty three years old. UM. I was in a situation I was listening to Miss Abrams this morning to live and you know she had been in a situation where she you know, she was intoxicated and and taking advantage of allegedly. And I had the same situation happened to me and I got a child by the mom and uh, I never I never, well, I spoke about it to people in my circle. Even my wife, she doesn't, you know, never believe me. I

mean she kind of takes it lightly. Um. You know, men men being raped, just as you know, heard of a lot. And I was just wondering, like what could I do. It's been since twenty and twelve, and I was just wondering what could I do in that situation. Like I never wanted to you know, trust charges or anything. And I was intacticated, possibly drugged, I'm not sure, you know, but I just kind of let it go, especially with me having a child. Um, it's just something that's always

stuck with me. You know what. I think that it is important for you to be able to express yourself because yes, this can happen and does happen to men as well. And I do feel like there are spaces that you can go to to speak your truth. That's a safe space so that you can't express yourself and that's important to be able to do. Like a safe horizon is someplace that you could um actually go to. Also, rain r AI n N, you should speak with them.

That's the nation's largest anti sexual violence organization, and they're available by phone, they're available online. You can talk to them also. And it is so important for you to be able to express yourself and get the proper tools that you'll need because you don't even know how this is affecting you, right, Okay, okay, I got so look at that brain dot org that's r ai nn dot org. Because I want to make sure you have the proper tools to deal with this and to be able to

express yourself. And you know, I do appreciate you for calling us this morning, because I know you're right. They don't discuss this too often with men, right, and uh, I appreciate that they forage in the rain dot org and uh, you know, I appreciate that it took a lot of for you to call me in and I'm kind of nervous now, you know, just just speaking out

about it. Right. Well, I'm glad you listened to a salalized interview and I'm glad that you felt empowered enough to be able to call up and express yourself here on the Breakfast Club, because we definitely want to make sure you have the platform to be able to do that. And I want to see you be heard, and I want to see you get the help and the tools that you need to be able to move forward. And to know that it was not your fault. Well, I

hope a lot was. I was intoxicated, right, It's not your fault whether you nobody should do that to you if a person is not in the state of mind to be able to give consent, and that is rape for sure. For sure, I hope a lot more. You know, people speak out, whether it be men or women. No, but I appreciate you'all thinking my call, and you know I love y'all self. All right, thank you, brother, Thank you.

Eight hundred five eight five one oh five. One of course, ask ye Now we got rumors on the way, yes, and we'll be talking about Lacrex. He has some things there he wants to get off his chest about the end that he did earlier this week. All right, we'll get into that next. Keep a lot this to Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Wanting everybody a CJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne, the guy we all the Breakfast Club. Let's get to the rumors. Let's talk Lacreix's filling the team.

This is the rumor report with Angela Yee on the Breakfast Club. So Lacre ended up having a conversation with the pastor Louis Giglio. I don't know how you say his name, Giglio Giglio, And people were very uncomfortable with him in that interview when these comments were made about slavery being a white blessing. People thought that he was okay with it because he was sitting there and kind of nodding. Well, since then, LACRAI has this to say. First of all, I want you to know I wasn't

okay with it. Even as I sat there, I was very uncomfortable and I was processing on like, man, how do I what do I say? In light of this? Um I ended up in a conversation with him subsequently, you know, right after we talked, and then I talked to him again last night and let him know my views and my perspectives, and obviously I wasn't okay with it, and we can't just be virtue signal and doing this because it's the end thing to do to talk about

race on platforms. And I didn't have any Ontario motives other than to, you know, help and articulate, you know, some of what's going on in our world and in our culture. Now. I know y'all wanted to create a challenge that guy on that, But the only thing to be said is the white man's blessing has always been black people's curse. But that's a that's a fact. But I can totally understand how a white person would think their white privilege is a blessing. I can totally get

why they would feel that way. But right to please remember that the Craze tweeted out the man's choice of words wasn't the best, but I got his point. Who's putting their career, freedom in life on the line. Me, if anyone has the right to be upset, it's me. Grace and love lead me though he's learning, he's not shying away or silent. Though it's a marathon, not a sprint. And here is what the pastor Louis Giglio had to say.

All right, like so many am so burdened about what is happening in our nation right now, and one of the things that I'm most heartbroken about is trying to help myself continue to learn and to help my white brothers and sisters understand that white privilege is real. And in trying to get that sentiment across on Sunday, I used the phrase white blessing, for which I'm deeply sorry, horrible choice of words. Does not reflect my heart at all. I don't to be clear, I believe there's any blessing

in slavery. I mean, he also tweeted out, yeah, absolutely, Yeah. He also tweeted out not seeking to refer to slavery as blessing, but that we are privileged because of the curse of slavery and calling it a privilege benefit blessing. Word choice wasn't great. Oh that's what the pass is it? M Yeah, he's right, and I mean that's all the creed to tell him, lacred to say, look, your blessing was a black person's curse. So yeah, that's that's that. That was the challenge. But yeah, I would have just

sat there and night in my head. But maybe Lacraze was praying. Maybe Lacre decided in that moment to pray for him right there. That's would have say, was right. I was actually praying, well, I was thinking hmm, I was thinking amen. Amen. All right, Well, happy belated birthday to Gunna. He got a really nice present. Young Thug brought him a Rolls Royce for his twenty seventh birthday. Gonna posted it that big body Rolls coming, Young Thug, Thank you twin hashtag big Yeah. That was all though.

That was a Rolls Royce. Color it what you say. Dn't gonna just buy a new call? Yeah, but he didn't buy the collection, but now he has another. He has one to the collection, a four hundred thousand. That's a really nice present, all right. For you fans of thirty Rock, thirty rockets returning to NBC for a remote one hour special, and that's going to be happening next month. They will also double as an upfront special for the

NBC Universal Properties. So that's gonna air Thursday, July sixteenth, and it will feature the return of cast members Tina Fae, I like Baldwin, Tracy Morgan, Jan Krakowski, uh and others. I sing their roles from thirty Rock, thirty rocks really funny. So I'll be interested to watch that, watch them working together, although remotely. Now, Tianna Taylor's juneteenth album that release is We've been discussing this, right, She's been putting out amazing music.

And who's gonna be on that juneteenth album? Well, and it's called the album Lauren Hill. Miss Lauren Hill will be on there, Missy Elliott, Erica Badu, Rick Ross, Quevo, Kailani, Future, Davido, Big Sean, Kim Coombs, Emon Chumpert, and of course Junie will be featured as well. Isn't no secret of a Tianna Taylor fan. I think Tiana Taylor gets busy. I think she's highly, highly entertaining on all levels. The album

is dope. I got a chance to hit the album a couple of months ago, Join with Erica Bado, joined with Rick Ross, Rianna got Some, got some, got some, got some stuff. But the crazy bat, Miss Lauren Hill. I want to hear that too. Lauren Hill record is dope. I thought it was. I don't want to say, but listen once again. I don't know why Tiana Taylor musically doesn't connect with people the way that she should, because the musically always there. I have to say it's a

label problem. I just have to. I have to say it's a label problem because people, even as an entertainer, just her dancing, her videos, her presentations amazing. But even like I said, this song that just came out, I love you know the we made the graduation. I think it's a great song. This is perfect for the times, you know what I mean. I don't know why it hasn't been pushed away. It should be. I don't know.

I think they should have gave Tiana Taylor money to do like an hour long movie, like how Beyonce did Lemonade, because Tiana's a beast with dividuals, you know what I mean. Do something like that, put the music together and maybe it would have been received differently. But we'll see you on Friday. The album comes out Friday. Let's go get that. Let's support Tiana Taylor. People absolutely all right. And lastly, even Marsalis leaving The Real Housewives of Atlanta after three

seasons on the show. She did make the announcement yesterday and she said she does appreciate the bond of friendship I've made with my cast mates and strong person of relationships I have with the numerous execs and producer is at Bravo, and she's thankful for the opportunity. So she's not on there anymore. All Right. I don't know what talking about that because Ninny doesn't like her. So yeah, I don't know why she would come back anyway, because all they did was bully of the whole season that

I've seen her a lot. Yeah, I'm sure that baby, she don't go through that stress absolutely. All right. Well, I'm anti Lagie and that is your room of report. Wow, all right, thank you for really trying to y'all really trying to silence black women, which I'm not gonna report that. I'm not gonna report that. Aunt Jamma quit. Aunt your mamma is tired of just being on y'all pancakes. Aunt

your mamma tied y'all working for y'all every morning. Okay, whenever you want pancakes, you just grab her and spread her on pancakes. Don't, don't, don't, don't. Don't even ask if she wants to be on the pancakes. It says here is that Quaker Oats is retiring it because it's origins are based on a racial stereotype. That's right, and your mamma deserves a break. She deserves to be retired. Okay. It's based off a song old Aunt Jemima from a

still show performer and reportedly sung by slaves. So who are gonna put on the box now? I don't know are you trying to position? If they put a white person on the face of the box and then they called the white name, still would you still eat? It wouldn't taste that surf, won't have no flavor on it. It doesn't have to have a face. It is just st all I know. Is nobody's free in telling this's

butterworth is free? Okay? Oh my goodness? All right? Well up next to the people's choice mixed get your requesting right now is Kendrick Lamar's birthday, so we start to mix up with some Kendrick Lamar born day to the God him see Kendrick Lamar leader to New School. When it comes to these these these rappers over the past ten years, I don't care what nobody says. Tramping the clues Kendrick Lamar, I have you born that? I really appreciated that man music and man created a soundtrack for

this moment that we're in five, six years ago. When did you Pip Butterfly come out? I don't remember five, So that's my I love Kendrick Lamart. Let's get into that mix now and also revote. We'll see them all. It's the Breakfast Club, Go Morning Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We all the Breakfast Club now. Shout to seal Lie for joining us this morning. Yeah, such an important conversation and it really did inspire someone

to call in for asking Yee. He remains anonymous, but he said that hearing her story inspired him, and I hope that that was inspirational for a lot of people to be able to feel like they can start to seek the help and the healing that you know that you need and to feel empowered to speak up. I want to say, God bless seal Lie. I've never met her, don't notice, sister, but I am definitely gonna pray for her today. I wish her her best and I hope

she finds the healing that she deserves. And I just want everybody out there to know that the Breakfast Club will always be open for anyone, especially black people who have something to say, because there are three sides to a story, and you know, if we can get all three sides, I welcome all three sides, even if the person only wants to speak to one of us. I am fine with that, Okay, but I do I must say,

still lie. I highly disagree with you thinking Russell shouldn't have been on the show, the same way I would disagree with someone thinking you shouldn't be on the show. You know, if accusations are being made, people have a right to make those accusations, and people have a right to reply to those accusations as well. So I'm sending you nothing but positive love and light. Still a lie, even if you wish me to opposite she doesn't. Yeah,

I don't know, And let's just make sure. I want to make sure that people are also just making sure that you show love to still live for everything that she's had to go through. If you watch on the record, and make sure you do, it's on HBO Matts, it's out and it's available now for you to watch on the record. She actually ran through a lot, and she did try to take her own life, and she did

even kiss her son goodbye. And fortunately, you know, she went to the hospital and was able to recover from that. But I know it's still a lot of healing that has to happen, and it's an ongoing process. But I'm glad that we were able to give her a safe space where she could tell her side of the story. Right And you can see the full interview on No. I heard you say that this morning about how still

Lie I tried to take her own life. And you know, as a as a person who just had a friend commits suicide, you know last week Jasmine Waters, Yeah, I want everybody to get to healing they deserve. You know, you never know what people are going through. You never know what you know, trauma's people have experienced that. You know, they still have those pain bodies about. So you know, I wish still Lie nothing but the best. And you know, I see people on Instagram saying, you know, she sounds bitter.

If you've been through what she's been through, you probably would sound like that too. And I wouldn't call that bitterness. I would just call that hurt and anger and pain. And she has every right to feel that. And one thing I will say that she said in an interview that really struck me was the fact that giving up that anonymity that she had before, and she had discussed

this in books and she hadn't named Russell Simmons. And now you know, people are taking away her name and just calling her Russell Simmons accuser or the woman who accused Russell Simmons of rape, and I can you know, we have to sympathize with the fact that she was out here successful writing books, you know, winning awards, essays and doing the work already, working with Safe Horizon, working with the National Domestic Violence Hotline and all of that, and you know, just to have to give up her

identity in order for her to come forward. Just make sure that when you discuss her her name is Pelli Abrams. She had something to share and to talk about. And make sure that her voice is heard and her identity is always known. And this platform was open for people like her, absolutely right And you can hear the full interview on our YouTube page right now, so definitely click the link and definitely listen to that all right now, when we come back, we got the positive note, don't move.

It's to Breakfast Club, Good morning, wanting every body is dch Envy, Angela Yee Charlomagne the guy. We are the breakfast club. It's time to get up out of here. Charlomagne, you've got a positive note for the people. Yes, the positive note is simply this. It's just more of a reminder. It's kind of like an affirmation I put on my social media this morning for everybody out there man that's just trying to heal from their emotional trauma. Grow a

business that's changing the world. Be the best person that you can be for the people you love, for giving the people hurt you, who hurt you, eating right, exercising, meditating, Just keep growing and working hard to be the first in your family to break generational trauma patterns. Okay, stay on your path. That's all you finish for y'all. Dum