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Reverend William J. Barber II Interview and More

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Today on the show we had an update from Attorney Benjamin Crump about the George Floyd case, in which the other 3 officers were arrested and charged and he let us know exactly what these charges mean now. Also, Reverend William J. Barber II called and spoke about poor peoples campaign and public mourning and more. Also, Charlamagne gave "Donkey of the Day" to New Orleans quarter back Drew Brees for his comments on Colin Kaepernick kneeling during the National Anthem and Angela helped some listeners out during "Ask Yee" with one caller dealing with a "Karen"!

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I'm like, wow, in the morning, you wake up the morning I'm talking right, I know you're about to experience a morning showing like idiot to the bast club. What you guys are doing right now? It's the hup culture. Breakfast Club is my morning fit. I need it and I love it. Something tells yo like you really not popping until you do the Breakfast Club. The waiting come to y'all show man. I know you gotta be a

big time celebrity. Be upter here. You gotta be. You gotta be a big time d J Nry Angiola Ye and Charlotta Maine the guy the Breakfast Club, bitch you Good morning USA. And to rouno yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo Good morning Angela ye Dad moneys Ambi, Charlemagne the god piece to the plane. It is Thursday, Yes, it's Thursday. I hear you're scratching.

What you mean. I hear you're scratching. I ain't stretching. What are you talking about Oh I thought I heard you're scratching. You can't keep thought to you having this what it's too earlier. Maybe i'm or maybe I'm just projecting on you. I don't don't project anything on me. I'm definitely tired. Zoom is very exhausting, bro. It is if you gotta if you gotta be on Zoom for the majority of your day, it is very, very very exhausting. And for whatever reason, um, you know, your people think

that being that it's on Zoom, you can do more. Right, So to be a lot of stuff on your schedule Zoom is exhausted. I'm tired of Zoom, but I need some human interaction when it comes to these meetings and interviews and whatever else. Yeah, I've been I've been doing a lot of Zoom calls. What I've been doing now recently, I ain't even gonna front. I've been doing it on my phone and just being like, my video doesn't work, so I could just do it as like a just

a conference call. I've been doing it that a couple of times. Hilarious a couple of times. But why don't you want to be seen? Um? Sometimes like other things to do and when you do a zoom call, you just got to really be sitting down into the zoom call. But I like to multitask. So there's a million one things. I got five kids, There's a lot of things going on, So sometimes I just put it on the phone and keep it moving like that. That is true. You do

a lot of these zoom meetings. People will be doing be doing a lot of other stuff. They'd be cooking, cleaning, and like people will be trying to do two and three things that want when they on the zoom I don't even know. Well, yesterday I went out and I was walking around in Brooklyn. I was like, let me get out of the house again and go for a little walk. There with a lot of very peaceful protests here in Brooklyn yesterday. So and today they are actually

going to be Mike Fell. And today they're actually going to be having a memorial service for George Floyd and Brooklyn and Cabin Plaza at one o'clock. Well, the three officers, three other officers were charged yesterday. Absolutely Now the chargers were were aiding and a betting to murder. Was that that second degree Yeah, aiding and a betting the second degree murder because they also Chabin's charges to second degree

instead of third degree. Right, what that means? You got Attorney ben Crump calling in this morning, because that's right, Attorney, I don't know exactly what any of that means. That's right, Attorney Benjamin Crump will be checking in. Yeah, because I would think that the other three officers who were I think it was two other officers, we're kneeling. We're kneeling on him as well, like on his lord experimities like

his back and stuff like that. So I would think that, you know, being that they physically were on him, you know, they would be charged with something a little little stronger and aiding and the betting, but hey, what do I know? Charges of the charges that will stick? Who knows? Man? And then yesterday I think they had the uh the mug shots of all four officers. Were the other three or released yesterday and people were asking, was the lack one of the officers h lack of African American? Was

he a minority? Do we know they did not get ethnicities? I didn't see that anywhere. One of them definitely Asian? Right now, we know what we want to look at that and see that. But they're saying none of them. They can't tell they can't tell you. There were some people were saying he was Asian, some people saying he was black, some people were saying he was Latino. Day they were trying to get to, you know, find that out. But anyway, we have Attorney Benjamin Crump. He'll be checking in.

He'll be breaking down the charges because I have no idea what those charges meaning and how much time those officers could really get. And we also have Reverend doctor William Barbro here'll be checking in as well. Absolutely, you will learn something on today's show. You definitely will. All right, well,

let's get the show cracking front page news. What we're talking about, Well, I guess um we were going to be talking about George Player, but maybe we should say that for Ben Crump because we just kind of gave all of that. So let's talk about these other officers, six Atlanta officers who were charging the arrest of the Kyllege students that they dragged from the car and hit with stun guns. All Right, we'll get into that next.

Keeping lock this to Breakfast Club. Good morning phoning everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy we all the breakfast club. Let's get in some front page news where we starting you. Well, yesterday Barack Obama had a virtual town hall. It was founded by my Brother's Keeper Alliance, and he partners with that with his Obama Foundation. We've all done a lot of different things with my Brother's Keeper. And here is what Barack Obama had to say about

young people and how much they inspire him. Part of what's made me so hopeful as the fact that so many young people have been galvanized and activated. Because historically, so much of the progress that we've made in our society has been because of young people. Doctor King was a young man when he got involved. Caesar Chavez was a young man, Malcolm X was a young man. And so when sometimes I feel despair, I just see what's happening with young people all across the country and it

makes me feel optimistic. It makes me feel as if this country's gonna get better. When Barack Obama was yea, they say no, I'm gonna say that's right because if the kids didn't kid and that that would be a problem. Like I've imagine, you know, all of this happened and the kids didn't have a reaction to it. Imagine if nobody had a reaction to it, And imagine if everybody just went on about that day after something like this, then you would mate, Damns America have a post. We

should know it's alive. When Barack Obama was in office, though, he did roll out a number of policies to help curb those incidents of police brutality, like he created a task force with guidelines on twenty first century policing. He also limited the transfer of military equipment to police departments, but Donald Trump's administration did roll back some of those reforms. Now, in addition to that, Barack Obama talked about a change in mindset and how we have to keep the momentum going.

There is a change in mindset that's taking place, a greater recognition that we can do better. That's a direct result of the activities and organizing and mobilization and engagement of so many young people. And so I just have to say thank you to them. Just make sure that we now follow through because at some point attention moves away. In addition to Daddio also gave three ways that you can make change. Number one, we know there are specific evidence based reforms that if we put in place today,

would build trust save lives. Those are included in the twenty first Century Policing task Force Report. You can find it on Obama dot or number two. A lot of mayors and local elected officials read and supported the task Force report, but then there wasn't enough follow through. So today I am urging every mayor to review your use of force policies with members of your community and commit

to report on planned reforms. Number three, Every city in this country should be a My Brother's Keeper community because we have two hundred and fifty cities, counties, tribal nations who are working to reduce the barriers and expand opportunity for boys and young men of color through programs and polo see reforms and public private partnerships. So go to

our website get working might changes. We have to dismand through the mechanism of white supremacy, and the people who benefit from white supremacy have to be able to relinquish some of that power and privilege. Until that happens, it is going to continue to be oppression. You just can't get right, man. Usually your mike is too loud. Today it's too low. Bro I could barely as I can hear. They got they gotta figure this out there, you go. I can't do nothing. It sound like you turned it up.

It got loud. Maybe they turned it up into in the studio all right, And the six Atlanta police officers had been booked after charges were filed against him. That was in Atlanta. They were filmed, as you know, breaking the windows of a vehicle and they yanked uh Spellman College and Morehouse College students out of the car. Twenty two year old Messiah Young was dragged from the vehicle and his girlfriend, twenty year old Tony A Pilgrim, was also dragged from her vehicle. Uh Now, they did try

to press charges against Young. He was charged with attempting to elude the officers, and Atlanta Mayor Keisha lands Bottom said she's ordering that his charges are dropped, and body camera video shows that they also took another young man into custody in a downtown and a down a downtown street alongside a line of stop cars as well. He was pleading with police to let him go, saying that he didn't do anything. So they are happy that these

officers are being held accountable for their actions. Two of the officers whose fires were announced Sunday, investigators Ivy Streeter and Mark Gardner, were charged, and there were four other

officers charged as well. They're being charged with aggravated assault for using a taser against Young and charged with pointing a gun at Young, according to arrest warrants, and Gardner's charged with aggravated assault for using a taser against Pilgrim man drop on a clues bombs for Keisha Lands bottoms. Do you see that, man A du Blasio. Okay, that's how a man is supposed to treat corrupt police officers. Okay. I love elected officials who care about the people more

than they care about the system. The system is supposed to work with us, and when it doesn't, and when there's an abusive power from the system, they got to be held accountable. As simple as that got them up out of there quick. We can't do that. Can't do that when you're in the police in your pocket like mad Bliss and the Fulton County District Attorney Paul Howard announced those charges during a news conference that happened. Atlanta

Police did not immediately have a comment. All right, well, that is your front page news get it off your chest eight hundred five eight five one on five one. If you need to vent, hit us up right now. Phone lines wide open again the number again, it's eight hundred five eight five one on five one is the Breakfast Club. Come on the Breakfast Club. Wake up, wake up, wake y'all. This is your time to get it off your chest. Because you're mad or blast, we want to

hear from you on a breakfast clove. Hello. Who's this? Hey, this ros Au Bro. How are you feeling to day? Man? I'm feeling fine. One love to you all, one love to y'all in these get it off your chest, bro, man, I'm upset about that black authors of sci fi have no outlets. Really, like we're kind of rejected and thrown and loose from the film industry to the book literaries, to the publishing companies. You know, like we really need

some some better outlets for black sci fi authors. Now, I agree smooth my dude s investor, he got this line call planet Dad, But I agree with you. It's only because they don't take us serious in that space right now. They look at black people and they think we're only supposed to be writing about one thing, which is usually the screet life, right, And that's that's like like they want us just to walk write an identity of corruption and nothing that develops us or gives us

some science about life, you know. So like in my book The Black Rosa Coush, we got everything in there from post traumatic slave syndrome, like with doctor j. M. Joy m degury puts in her book, y'all definitely need to put her on your show. Have y'all had doctor post traumatic slave syndrome. She is she is the I call her the female malcol mix of this time. You got to really check her out, like she is the truth for post traumatic slave syndrome. If I've heard that, yeah,

I mean I've heard that term. Yeah, I've definitely used that term. I don't maybe, man, maybe I do know her. I don't know. I've definitely used that term though. Well, thank you to go see the Slave play on Broadway. Then well when it's whenever it's back open again, it's kind of all about that too. But I shout out to Toshi Bouchet. We had him on the show. He's a black sci fi author. He wrote the book War Girls. Hello, who's this? Hey, what's going on? It's Kevin. Kevin. What's up?

Broke morning everybody? Good morning, peace King. What's going on? Yeah, I'm gonna tell us right now. I'm part of me. I'll tell us what's going on right now. I'm actually uh like Ohio just actually went into a lockdown as of eleven sixty nine last night, and actually I gotta go up and I'm still I work. I work for Google and it's like seventeen thousand people here right now.

It was like, I don't know why they didn't you know this, the message didn't get over here, but I just, uh, I just want to get off my chest and I'm ready for this thing to be over. Man. I mean, my birthday is coming up on March. Study if I'm still I still gotta work, I still gotta do everything I gotta do here, like you know what I mean. And it's just like I think it's us Uh, it's a point of it's chaotic. It's just chaotic. Now. You know,

they gave me for hims to give the police. They're like, look, if you get pulled over, get a police this like what it's kind of crazy. So yeah, we got those two. I'm gonna tell you I'm gonna tell you something. If you believe in social distancing, the club to want coronavirus to be over, it's pretty packed. I don't think you

need to be in here. Yeah, and just be blessed that you do have some kind of job, because there's a lot of people out there that have no work, have no income, and that they're allowing you to work with social distancing. Hello, who's this? Good morning angela. Yo. March twenty to me, listen. March twenty fourth is to me as January thirty is to you. Boo boo. Oh well, happy birthday, snack man, thank you, thank you. Okay, here, how are you celebrating with coronavirus? Yeah? Oh, thank you. Well,

here's a joke. You're ready, Thank you. Guy, he's not even listening. What do you call a Mexican hangover? Corona virus? Get off the stage? Boo? Get it off your chest eight D five eight five one on five one if you need to vent eat us up right now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. It's your time to get it off your chests, whether you're man or blast, so you better have the same. Inny, we want to hear from you on the breakfast club. Hello,

who's this? Tram good Envy? Oh, we'll try. What's up? Brother? Hey trash Heyo, how are you? What's up? Boo? How are you? I'm doing good. I'm doing good. I'm going on Charlottamagne pieces what's happening? Telling like a villain, telling like a villain. Hey, Man, For first, I want to say, um training the training trainer at treating, at treating trainer, you are I'm gotta I'm I gotta take my pictures off my Instagram with her man, because he's he's She's

clearly embarrassed. She's clearly being embarrassing right now, the way that she's acting, calling people animals and stuff. By the way she's supposed to be. She's supposed to be making a statement this morning. So we'll see what she has to say. Girl, keep your statement. I don't think I don't think we want her statement. We try. We gotta stop doing one thing, though, we we gotta stop saying

r ip just when somebody makes a mistake. That's a bit harsh, don't you think r I p under said that I might got to take my pictures down with her. I don't know. Yeah, but don't say r ip. Yeah you can somebody if she made a mistake, and and not saying not defending her. But let's be honest. We all say things out of anger, out of hate, out of being confused. So we'll see what she has to say.

Hopefully she apologizes, she understands what she said that was, and listen, I'm fine if you want to cancel this. Don't put death on the person, all right, harsh I feel and you know what, and I think she was. She was a little emotional. You know, her brother got shot and killed and she was discussing that and a lot of different things. And she may have misspoke. So we'll see what she has to say this morning. Okay,

that's cool. Well, listen, I'm also to say about my job real quick, right, So my job took the right spin as far as like blacking outs like their website and putting out a bunch of messages to our company and stuff and mind work at Montgomery County. Montgomery County also their mayor also claimed that Black Lives Matter as a terrorist organization. And you should see the way that people at my job right acting about the way that my company is standing behind Black Lives Matter batter so

I might need to be finding another company. It's crazy that people take Black Lives Matter as a terrorist organization. An organization that's actually sticking up for people because they're tired of seeing black people get killed at the hands of the pole is a terrorist. We're gonna strange plank you, dight five five one oh five one. Get it off your chest now you we got rumors on the way. Yes, we're gonna be talking about Drew Brees. People are very

upset at him. Lebron James is leading the athlete pushback on some of his comments on protests. All right, we'll get into that next. Keep it lot, It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. It's about angela Ye fund to Breakfast Club. So Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey has started his own start small fund and he's putting up three million dollars of his own money into that fund, and

it's all aimed at Kaepernicks Know Your Rights Camp. So he's dedicating that money to pay legal calls for protesters who got arrested while fighting for justice for George Floyd. So you can see you on Twitter. Three million to Colin Kaepernick's No Your Rights Camp to vance a liberation and well being a black and brown communities through education, self empowerment, mass mobilization to elevate the next generation of change leaders. And that's what he said, that money is

going towards. So as you know, Conlin Kaepernicks Know Your Rights Camp started a legal defense initiative to cover legal bills for the freedom fighters. Oh, salute to Jack. That's right. That's that's how you use your privilege in paper to combat prejudice. Salute to Jack. Yes, And now let's talk about Drew Brees from the New Orleans Saints. The quarterback. He had some things to say when he talked about seeing players kneeling during the national anthem when football resumes.

And here's what he had to say when he was questioned about that. I will never agree with anybody disrespecting the flag of the United States of America. Let me let me just tell you what I feel when the national anthem is played. And when I look at the flag of the United States, I envision my two grandfathers who fought for this country during World War Two? And is everything right with our country right now? No? We

still have a long way to go. But I think what you do by standing there and showing respect to the flag with your hand over your heart is it shows unity. It shows that we are all in this together, we can all do better, and then we are all part of the solution. Drew Brees shut the f up forever. I watched that video a few times yesterday. I didn't understand the context, Like what it was they asking him about kneeling in peaceful protests? Was they asking him about

the protest now? Like why did he volunteer that information at a time like this, I'm not sure? And they showed pictures him kneeling before, So I was lost in confusing exactly. Well, for any white people who don't understand this, notice you wonder why so many black folks have a problem with patriotism. It's because how can we salute a country that enslaved us and continues to brutalize us. Drew Brees sees America, you know, for the beautiful country. It

is because he's a white privileged male. That's how he sees America, because this white supremacist system works well for him because it was designed too. So he don't see the same America. We see well, Lebron responded. He said, Wow, man, is it still surprising at this point? Sure? Isn't You literally still don't understand and why CAP was kneeling on one knee has absolute nothing to do with the disrespect of the flag and our soldiers men and women who

keep our land free. My father in law was one of those men who fought as well for this country. I asked him questions about it and thank him all the time for his commitment. He never found caps peaceful protests offensive because he and I both know what's right is right and what's wrong is wrong. God bless you. A lot of players also, a lot of NFL players went online to vocalize how they felt about Drew Brees' comments, which a sherman said, He's beyond lost. Guarantee you they

were black men fighting alongside your grandfather. But this doesn't seem to be about that that uncomfortable conversation you are trying to avoid by injecting military into a conversation about brutality and equality as part of the problem, Julius Pepper said, if you're still talking about players disrespecting the flag by kneeling during the national anthem. Clearly you're not ready for these conversations. Call a time out and come back later now.

Some of his most well known teammates from the Saints, including top wide receiver Michael Thomas, also publicly had things to say. Michael Thomas had elevated innovation over ignorance, and Stephen Jackson actually responded to Michael Thomas his comments and said, this where the whole Drew Brees accountable. Mike. I don't give it down if you throw you all of them touchdowns, bad time and Drew Brees bad timing. Bro. All right, you played from the walls and you live in the walls.

All the black people knew, all of us support you, Drew Brees. You gotta be a little bit more sensitive to the timing. Bro. You can't just be saying about your ass. You should understand, but y'all gotta hold all y'all white team makes accountable, bro, Drew Brees, if you ain't down with us, then you on the other side. Yeah, it's gonna be rough in that Saints loocking room, uh this year. But I also want to tell any white person out there who doesn't get it. If you don't

understand why cap was kneeling. Then go watch the video of that white devil cop kneeling on George Floyd's neck for almost nine minutes, and then you'll probably get it. All right, Well, I'm Angela Yee and that is your rumor report. All right, thank you, miss Yee. Now, when we come back, we have Attorney Benjamin Crump joining us also test we're gonna be talking about these charges filed against these all, what they mean, what's next, and we're gonna talk to him when we come back during front

page news, So don't move us to Breakfast Club. Good morning, Good morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Scholomine the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest on the line, Attorney Benjamin Crump. Welcome back, brother, Hey, good to see your game. And tesla for Garos with

attorney being Crump. Yes that sweet. Now we're gonna ask, of course, yesterday the three officers were charged, so can you break down the charges and tell us exactly what those charges mean and how much time can those officers really get? Absolutely, and thank you all for the Breakfast Club family, everybody staying vigilant until we got the charges. The Attorney General for the state of Minnesota, Keith Ellison, a good brother well for a track record for champion

in civil rights. He can announced yesterday that all the officers were being arrested for aiding and a bedding and he upgraded the charges envy on office of Chauvin to second degree murder, which if he is convicted and I say if, because we don't want to get ahead of ourselves, Charlemagne, he can get up to forty years in prison. And Angie, the others who have charged aiding in a bedding, if they're convicted, they can get up to twenty years in prison.

So based on the autops that we talked about with the family, doctor Michael Biden and a sister named doctor Alicia Wilson who is the head of Pathology and Forensic Sciences at the University of Michigan, they're an independent autopsy and came to these conclusions. Number one, the man and cause of death with mechanical asphyxiation based on the knee to the neck by Chauvin for almost nine minutes, eight

minutes and forty six seconds Angie to be exact. And then the two knees in the back on the video Charlemagne, when we look at the other officer who kept his knees there the entire time, and so it was pressing down on his lungs, not allowing them to contract and intake or dispense air, which caused no blood flow to go to his brain, and he was starving from a lack of error. Literally, that's where it died from the legal definition of the autopsy was homicide. Obviously that's most

important for the criminal charges. And so those were the conclusions, and they were contradictory to the conclusions of the county ba's who MEDICA examiners are autopsy and so that's what he used the basis charges. Angie, how can there be two such different autopsy results, That's what I wanted to ask you, because I know the family. You guys did go ahead and order an independent one. So how can something like that happen? Angie? Happens more often than you

would think. The Medica examiner who works with the police departments every day, they come up with these amazing imaginary ways to tell us what we saw really didn't happen or was not the cause of death. And so the counter medical examiner did agree that it was homicide after

we came out with it. But then he said it could be genitive heart failure, that he had some underlying health conditions that were undiagnosed, and so he said that is a condition that could have killed them because they saw no trauma to the trachea or not enough trauma to the creakier even though our doctors disagree with that. And they said, and Jane Charlemagne and easy, the old thing they always say, Oh he had drugs in his system,

had coronavirus. That's what I heard some newer hurt this morning. Yeah, that's they saying that too. But that didn't kill them, even if it was there. No fitting all didn't kill them. No meth and fail amine killed them. All of those, I believe, or just distractions to try to us throw us off track, calling like Eric Garder, y'all y'all in New York, y'all know how they came out and tried to literally say that Eric Gardner didn't die from what

those officers did. So that's why we got to stay vigilant. I know, we're talking about making sure we get a conviction all the officers on this case. And then Tesla is helping me talk about the political ramifications of how we use this moment to turn it into systematic reforming legislation. Let's hear it, t Let's hear that. That's what I want to hear. How do we keep prevent things like this from happening? Absolutely well, it's really important that we

continue to collective pressure. You know, we talk about collective pressure all the time, and one thing is due to keep making sure that the message is consistent from a public standpoint. It's really important we keep hearing folks talk about the property damage. Let us all remember that when black people came to this country, the first thing that they did was make us property. So there has always over property being more important than black lives in black bodies.

So it's really important, particularly to my breakfast club family, that we continue to keep the narrative consistent that one we need systematic change. I know Reverend Al Sharpton will be announcing some things today at the eulogy to talk about how we can come together to talk about federal laws that need to be in place, and those are the type of things that we need to keep the

pressure on. We cannot allow this to be used as the poltical pond to have a center and Klobuchar or Biden or Trump or whoever to use this to push one agenda over the other. We must keep the main thing the main thing, and consistently talk about how do we get lost in place to make sure that police officers go to jail when they kill us. It's not about trying to change the heart of anybody, but it is about with diversity, training and so forth. That's important.

But the main thing is if you get caught killing us, if you get caught doing us wrong, you will go to jail and that will be an immediate conviction. I will probably say this is the fastest that we've ever had a result. And this because people have been in the street, protesting, using their voices online and having folks like you at the breakfast club. They continue to keep that message consistent. Hey Ben, let me ask you a question.

How come to other officers who kneeled on him? Why weren't they giving charges other than aiding in a bedding? You know? Attorney General Keith Ellison said to the family and me that they're continuing to investigate and if they find evidence that will sustain the first degree murder charge against Chauvin, they will upgrade that charge. And I believe they're gonna find that information out there because I think he knew George Floyd. I think they had a history,

and so we got to keep on that. Charlomagne and number two, he said, if those other officers we can show, based on their audio from their body cameras that they had mental thoughts that were ill will against George, he will increase the charges. He said. He just doesn't have

that evidence yet. And I do want to say whether it's a model, But Brianna Taylor, George, what we gotta do them with tes as a political consultant to all of us, Chalomagne's happen us with his systematic response in all of these cases, so black people the criminal justice system to work the same in Minnesota as it does in Georgia, or as doing Kentucky, or in state and

all in New York. We need federal systematic reform to make sure this moment for George Floyd is not just a moment, but it's a movement to prevent other brothers and sisters from being being killed. Now, let me ask you, what can I ask you? A technical question? I've heard people saying that it's a lot harder to convict an officer or first degree murder, so they're saying that's why

that's not a charge that they would prefer. I just want to ask you, as an attorney, because I don't know obviously the ins and outs of that, So are we trying to do that? Is that? Is there truth to that? Now, Queen, there's a lot of truth to that. It's very really that the officers ever convicted the first degree murder. That's what made both of them. John such a phenomenon. You remember the first time in the history of white policewoman was convicted the first degree murder for

killing a black person. Because people want to believe police, no matter how much they show us that they have this legacy of being the slave patrol. A lot of our white brothers and sisters want to say, no, no, they're just doing their job. They're good people, and they didn't premeditate this. They didn't intend this. This is just

something that happened, but they torch it. George Floyd, I mean, the governor Minnesota was right to say we want to investigate them for human right abuses in Van Charloma, because I mean, they tortured them. Nine minutes, he's saying I can't breathe. He's asking for his mama. I mean, think about the psychology of that for a second. The person who protects us most when we come in this world. It's innate for us to always think about our mothers,

our protector. And then at the end of his life, in a desperate police he say Mama, mama, and then he does a documentary of his death and he says, I'm gone now. So that's why this is gonna be a hard funeral and memorial for the family. So we are big only serious mental health counseling. Charlotte made all his family, especially his children and his brothers and sisters. Yeah, me and Tayla was talking about that last night. We're trying to put something together, you know, for the families

to get that grief counseling that they need. Tay I don't want to ask you a question real quick. I started. They allowed Amy Klobuchar to announce that the officers were being arrested. That felt political to me. Why did she announce instead of Keith Ellis? Absolutely, well, we are let's just keep a real straight shout with no Jason, you know, being as nice, I'm gonna get a little bit rough. But she did it because again she has to make

some type of amends to the black community. Too bad she wasn't doing that type of announcement years ago when she had an opportunity to discipline this officer, to the fire officer, to prosecute this officer. So what we're not getting ready to do in twenty twenty is played this game as this political pond, and she's continued to push her VP application up. And to be real, it's gonna be reviewed and it's gonna be reviewed by the people, and we'll determine on whether or not we think she's

a suitable cab for vice president. So I think a lot of us are on it that the jig is up. We are able to figure out Amy, that you had an opportunity to speak up. So don't start with tweets down that this is me saying an attorney Benjamin Crump, he's more Martin, I'm more Malcolm. So let's be clear. Uh, Senator Cloby char we see it, We see you. We keep the game, and let's she also be a vocal

voice and actually getting some federation passed. That's where her opportunity is to step in and not to try to use this as a political I just see this Aman, Charlotte Main and Angie. This guy had eighteen previous allegations of excessive force, most of them against minorities, so it was for silver. The problem Amy club charge was the district attorney before she became senator, so they could have

prosecuted this guy and George Floyd will still be alive. Well, we know you gotta go, and we appreciate you tes An Attorney Benjamin Crumb for checking I know you guys are on seen right now. Thank you for checking in and breaking down the charges and keeping us in for them. And you know we got a line to you anytime we need you. Thank you so much. Guys. All right, pray for the family memorial of my love. Thank you absolutely. I But when we come back, we have Reverend doctor

William Barber checking into the move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, Breakfast Club. Ej Envy Angela yee, Charlomagne, the guy we all the breakfast Club. Now we got a special guest on the line. Right now, we have Reverend doctor William Barbara, Good morning, brother, good morning, good morning. Now we're saying a second ago that you and Charlomagne were talking behind the scenes, but we were setting everything

up and we said, saved it for air. So Charloman, what were you talking about with the brother, Well, he was telling me about how when you go to the meetings with these with these politicians, and he asked James, go ahead, go ahead, Reverend Barba. At the bottom line is in our campaign, the Poor People's Campaign, a national call for my revival. We did an audit of America

on five interlocking injustice. Five injustices that are like interlocking eve and you got to address all of them simultaneously, because they try to choke the life out of what's left of this democracy. Systemic racism in all of its forms, systemic poverty, ecological devastation, denial of healthcare, the war econoiment and militarism, and the false modern of religious nationalism and

white evangelicalism. When you go into meetings, you start talking and you lay out an agenda, you actually have fifty things or twenty things that relate to that. How we deal with it? The question is always, well, what is the most important, or what one thing, or for instance, on race that say okay, well we got a commission that we're gonna do for racism, and what we say is we have an agenda here. And then after a

while I finally say, listen, look at this pandemic. We pass three bills, three trillion dollars in less than fifty forty days, back in two weeks. The corporations get everything they want. They get three trillion dollars. So if they can get three trillion things, then you need to hear my fifty right. We're not We're not playing that game because politics is not just about listening. So, I mean, one of the things that I'm deep, deeply concerned about

right now. I heard it this morning somebody say, well, you know Trump, listen, Trump this, but you know we were getting along before him. I'm saying, but you were getting along doing what's right, getting along doing what There were hundred and forty million poor people in this country

prior to the pandemic. Forty three percent of this nation and sixty one percent of African America were poor and low income prior to this pandemic, and seven hundred people were dying a day and two hundred a quarter million a year. Seven people died from vaping, and we had a congressional hearing. Seven people died from vaping, and there

was a presidential audience in the White House. Seven hundred people dying a day from poverty, and sixty one percent of African American poet Lowell, sixty eight percent of Latino and politicians are scared to say poverty. Republicans are racialize it, Democrats running from it. Nobody deals with the reality of it. So we're not gonna just talk about one than we need to talk about the comprehensive things that need to

be done. That's your question, the Reverend Bolba, why haven't black people received the economic justice they deserve from this country? You know, it has a long history. I want to go through the whole history, you know it. You know the thing that they stopped real quick was the four acres in the mute. It's kind of like, y'all free and Paul's two things. We weren't fighting for a long weekend. And the saying we weren't fighting for was just freedom.

It was citizenship, full citizenship. I think the problem is one we've not dealt with the extent of the problem. That's the first thing since kings killed Robert Kennedy was killed nineteen sixty eight, for about fifty to two years, if you think about it, the issue of potty has been wiped off the table. We have a knee with Both parties are trapped not in the same way, but by a neoliberalism imagination that Baxley says, one proof says if you take care of middle class and up, everybody

will be okay. If you take care what others says, if you take care of the top, that'll trickle down. Well, that's just not true. And so when you're trapped in that imagination and you're not even talking about the extent of the economic injustice. When I say one hundred and forty million people, that's out a shock everybody. First of all, the government says there's only thirty eight thirty nine million people that are poor. That's not true. According to Columbia Harvard,

it's one hundred and forty million. Now, you cannot continue to pass policies year after year after year and say we're getting better a little bit and never deal with the factor forty three percent of your entire population in poverty and in this pandemic is going over fifty. So the first has to deal with the extent of the issue. So what do you think the solution should be? How

do we solve this problem? Right? Well, again, if I might talk in the terms that I talk in in terms of a fusion more fusion analysis, there are several things that block us from dealing with the real economic agenda. One starts with racism. One form of racism, and that's racist voter suppression and jaymandering, because that's used to lock up the system in a certain way, so that so

that people can't really break through and be engaged. What I mean by that, we do mapping in our movement, and every state that is a racist voters pressure state that where the governor of the legislation to the congressional representatives, the Senate, and the presidential candidates get elected, is skewed by gerrymandering and racist Okay, that's that's the facular matter.

The courts recently called it surgical racism. So that means that your political bodies are not really representative of the people. You can actually have more people vote in a progressive way, but then they not get elected because of racism. Now you said, what does that have to do with economics, Well, the economics is false by policy, not just by charity, and not just by one or two people getting rich. It's policy. Sixty to fifty four percent of all African Americans,

for instance, make less than a living ways. You could change that tomorrow by raising the minimum ways to fifteen dollars an hour and pump six hundred and thirty billion dollars into the economy. But you can't raise that just by asking corporation to be nice. It has to be a policy. Voter suppression undermines our plitics. Let me quickly show you what I mean by that. Every state that is a racist voter suppression state, if you put the

map over, that is also a high povertive state. Is also a state where the politicians block living wages and block healthcare. And the people who are doing that, many of them get elected not because they want to vote, because they cheated through racistists vote suppression in German. So you have so and here's the other piece of that.

The people who use race to get elected. Once they get elected, they not only pass policies that hurt the overwhelm them a number of black people, They passed policies that hurt white people because there are more white people that are poor in raw numbers then there are black people that are more black people that are impacted by power in terms of the percentage, but they're answer them more white people in raw numbers. So if your politics are locked up, then your policies are locked up. And

what kind of policies we need. We need living wages immediately. We need guarantee basic income. Doctor King talked about that years ago. Right, we need healthcare, and every congress person gets free healthcare, every governor gets free healthcare. But when it comes to the people having the same thing, they have all of a sudden, we can't afford it. We have more with Reverend doctor William babo when we come back,

don't move. It's to Breakfast Club. Good morning morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne mc gad, we'all the Breakfast Club was still kicking it with Reverend doctor William Babo Ye. So with everything that's been happening now with the pandemic with coronavirus, do you feel like people are becoming more active and that they're actually stepping up and saying but the demands are and right before an election, just wanting certain policies and being more involved in local

elections and all of that. Do you think that things are about to be somewhat of a revolution. Yeah. I think that those who think that the reaction to George Floyd's murder lynching, a knee killing on camera, death by racism. That's what we saw. I call it a Code sixty six death by racism. But you miss it if you think it's just about George Floyd, the same way you would miss it if you thought the reaction to the killing of Milly Jackson in nineteenes it to vile just

about Jimilly Jackson. We are seeing public more people are protesting because they know it doesn't have to be like this. People only protest what they believe can be changed. If folk didn't protest, that meant we really would be in trouble, because it mean people have given en of all hope that things could change. Now. I think that this we see happening has the potential for people to say, wait a minute. When he said I can't breathe, he was talking about that cops knee on his neck and those

other cops only back. But I think a lot of people heard that metaphorically. We can't breathe either. That's right because of the way the poverty on our neck and the denial of healthcare on our next You see, we're in the midst. It's when this happened. It happened in the midst of a pandemic. Prior to the pandemic, you had a hundred forty million people poor, seven hundred people a day dying from poverty. Then you have the pandemic.

We have all this negligence in an aptitude of the President and the Senate, and then we have all this money. Three bills get passed, it goes for the corporate goes up, it doesn't come down. And then we take service workers and we said, oh, we know, we'll do. We'll give them a name change. That's all they need, changing from service work or two essential workers. But we won't give them the essentials they need. So you had three bills passed. Not one of those bills guarantee of healthcare in the

middle of the pandemic. We didn't shive. Not one of those bills said we're gonna guarantee sickly, We're gonna guarantee unemployment. We're gonna guarantee rent forgiveness. That actual building they passed said you could have a moratorium on your rent for three years three months within the fourth month. You had to pay the three months and the fourth month at the same month, or you couldn't pay one month at a time. To hell, you know thrill? I mean really,

And we didn't. We didn't. We didn't even guarantee in those those you could cut offs on a pandemic where you need to wash your hand. There was nothing in there that said you can't cut off people's water, damn right. But like, but like you said, you know, I was talking the other day. I was like, you know, you say deferment. I ain't got to pay for three months, right, Let's say four months. Let's say, man, I gotta get it. Find a job. Do when I find a job, you

want me to play the full four months right away? Right? I can't afford it, and and you you can. How could you if I couldn't pay, I can barely pay thirteen. Now you're gonna raise my note up so I can make up the four months? Right? I can't say that I'm gonna be late and you're gonna be that's right, But you immediately give the corporations two eighty five percent of all that money went to up top eighty five percent. So basically you say to them, we're gonna pay you

to pay your bill. In fact, we're gonna say, poor folk have to pay an eighty five percent searchyard just to get a little tina that we didn't. We didn't. You know, nobody would look brought my breakfast club. You wouldn't go to a club they had an eighty five I said, search, yarg on, you just coming in? Come on, y'all. I mean, we ain't all been saved all our life.

Come Onbam. I keep saying that if Barack Obama is Jeff K Joe Biden has the chance to be Lending b. Johnson, especially in a moment like this, you think he could be as progressive on race and classes LBJ. I think we are in a third reconstruction. The pains of a third reconstructive first one was reconstruction right out to slavery. Then you had a reaction to that, just like Trump

was reaction to Barack Obama. We had a second reconstruction, the civil rights movement then the reaction to that was the Southern strategy and Wallace and Nixon and all that, and now we're in the birth pains of a third reconstruction. I said to Vice President on an Easter podcast. I heard it all right, that there are moments that crucifixion gives you an opportunity to resurrect, but you gotta take it.

There are moments that what you may have said and meant well before doesn't fit and you have to know that moment. And not only Biden, but the Congress. I keep saying to even to Democrats, all these energy industries, what if people you come out, they come out with a hero to be able even that's limited because it's limited. They said, well, what we can't get past because of McConnell, Well, why not passed in the House what ought to be passed.

And then McConnell wants to go against people's lives. Let him do that publicly, and we film that and short to people. And then the question to become do you want to vote for folk we're trying to fight for you to have healthcare, or do you want to vote for folk to even in the midst of a pandemic, will let you die. Do you want to vote for people who will say you need a living wave and will push that out there, or do you want to vote for people but believe things that really live operations.

There has to be a dicotomy, and we have to get free of this deoliberal from the middle high middle up imagination. So I think it's possible, but it's only possible if it's rooted in policy. It can't just be a conversation. And this is the time I think you have to do a major presentation. In fact, this is gonna sound strange maybe to some part, and let me say it here. I keep hearing folks and we need, we need a black agenda. But the question is how

do we do that? And what I mean by that if you look at these five interlocking injustices, what I'm looking for and what the poor People's campaigns looking for.

And while we're meeting on June twenty of twenty twenty four a Mans Poor People's Assembly and Marl March on Washington that day, you're not gonna hear from me, or say you're gonna hear from this white coal mine in Kentucky who's hooking up these black folk from the Mississippi Delta who decided to address racism and poverty, not just poverty, so we don't have to deal with race and not just race. So they think it's that's just dealing with black people. What if we had the Congress and the

candidates forget party for a minute. What if you say, here's my plan for healthcare. Let's just say healthcare this pandemic. And when I put this plan together, I made sure that addressing the disparities of race was right in the center of putting it together. Now here's the plan. And if I am elected and this plan is pushed forward, this is how will impact black people, this is how will impact Latino people, This is how will impact children, this is how That's the grown up conversation we got

to have. Absolutely in America. I walk in every piece of policy our campaign says, in every policy, we want to know, how does it address systemic racism, systemic positive, ecological devastation, so forths all so those, And then that way we move from voting for a person to a prosity that has a policy. Hi, we got more with Reverend doctor William Barber. When we come back, don't move. It's the breakfast Club, Good Morning morning. Everybody is DJ

Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne, the gad y'all. The Breakfast Club was still kicking it with Reverend Doctor William Barber Charlomane. I keep saying, man, voting doesn't matter if the person you voting for is not going to go in there and help dismand through the system of white supremacy, exactly,

and and and then you got to teach folks. What we do in the Poor People's Campaign is we teach people that racism, when you really push it, it's not just against black people, it's against humanity, it's against the democracy. It hurts everybody. Remember what I said, the same p politician that passed racist vote suppression law, block living wages and block healthcare. And when they do that, it actually blocks more in raw numbers, not in the impact way people.

That's why our campaign is organizing people in the hills of Kentucky and in the black streets of Louisville. Because doctor King said in sixty five, anytime black poor folk and white poor folk. He said this at the end of the some of the Montgomery March. I think one of the greatest speeches that we don't reference enough. He said, anytime there's the possibility for poor black folk and poor white people to change the political capitals and to change

the policy. The bourbon class noticed, he didn't say democratic republic. He said, the bourbon class, the aristocracy sows division, sows division by design. And so we have to first of all deal with what racism is. And then second of all, we have to examine it in every aspect of policy. And the third of all, we have to be able to name specific policies that are going to unpack it.

And I and I think what people misread when when when you ask these questions on the front end, they act like black people like if you if you don't if you ask a question and push me, then you might not vote for me in November. Well I might not, But if I ask you and maybe you give me fifty percent, I might look at the other person and say, well they are twenty percent, So I vote for you, and then I push you after the election for the rest of the fifty. But you can't just get a pass.

I got to talk quick questions, man. The poor People's campaign, that's the movement. Doctor MLK Junior was pivoted too it's ultimately I think we got him killed. What made you want to think, well, it got it got him killed. You know, it pains me to say some of this.

But when doctor King called his nation the greatest purveyor of violence, and exactly the one year to the date of his death, August third, nineteen sixty seven, and he started talking about the three evils poverty, racism, and militarism. And he said that America couldn't be who she pretends to be and promises to be without dealing with all three of those moral fusion. And she said, he said, we got to deal with all three of them. The

next morning, over a hundred newspapers wrote against him. Some black newspapers wrote against him black some black organizations wrote resolutions against him, prominent organizations, some ministers turned against him. He lost his invitation to the White House. And the more he started talking about the two Americas, one prosperous and one poor, the more he started bringing together poor and white people and black people around this agenda to a deal with racism and poverty. What you see in

the street now white and black folk. But talking about racism poverty. Once he did that, he was marked because it was about fundamentally shifting to society. Now. The other half of that story is it was the black welfare rights women that kind of pushed doctor King to go in that direction, and doctor King understood something. You cannot change this society until you change the narrators. That's what we're doing today. My last question, macause you are a reverend.

I feel like everything that's going on right now is divine, and I truly feel like no good is gonna come to America until they do right by black people through legislation and reparations. What do you think exactly? You know you cannot. John Hope Franklin said something that encapsulated it for me, and I'm gonna repeat him. God blessing he's

gone on that. We did an interview with him. He said, you know, if I could keep somebody enslavery for two hundred and fifty years and then at him go and just say, oops, that's what not doing reparations, that's not what not doing not dealing with the realities of the injustices that still permeate from two hundred and fifty years of free labor being taken. If I can do that to somebody and then just say well, DJ and the oops, I'm sorry, go be free. That's what John Hope Franklin said.

Mark can't just say oops, right, not just to us, but to the genocide, because that toward First nation people. You can't just say oops, you can't take and you can't build an entire country on the backs of slavery that was rooted in rooted in what we call bad biology, and that is your skin color determines your brain size six sociology, that is, black and white people can't be together on the same level, at the same level of

humanity or evil. Economic that the end justifies the mean, no matter what you do, as as long as somebody makes money is all right. And then the last one is heretical ontology, that is that God meant for it to be like that. You can't build an entire economic system and a country on top of that. And then the end of it and the end of the gym crow legal gem crow say oo's when you're still are trapped in so many ways by systemic racism. Can't do that.

Politicians will be only as good as we make our political system will be only as good as we make them. And so that's why we can't even wait on them to have an agenda to an agenda and then demand that that agender be responded to it. And that's what the Poor People's Campaign done. We don't just talk about the numbers and the problem. For every problem we raise,

we have a solution. You can go to www. Poor People's Campaign Dot organ is right there your listeners, and you can join us on June twenty of twenty twenty to hear it ten o'clock on every kind of social media on the MSNBC is going to do a big piece on it and let us use their entire so

media platform. We want people to tune in to hear white people talking about racism, that people talking about economic issues and telling their story and saying we are not going to quit until all five systemic racism, systemic poverty, ecological devastation, denial of healthcare, this war economy, and the false maderna, the religious nationalism are addressed. These these things have to be addressed. And if you are bothered by what we do, remember that when a man is bleeding,

ambulance is run the light. And it's normal for an ambulance to run the light. When folk as in trouble. Doctor King said that, he said, and we need some ambulance driver drivers now, some people who are willing to refuse to obey the rules of It's all right, it's okay, just wait and wait again. Too many people, too many people are suffering. We must make our political system respond. We must do it in our deepest mall and non.

I believe traditions, but it must not be weak. It has to be strong, has to be a gender base, it has to last for an election and beyond an election. My brother, thank you, Mander, thank you for even having me. Doctor. Don't don't be a stranger. I won't now next time. I'm a little mad because y'all y'all didn't drop the music. I guess you don't do it when you're taping season. I won't get out here because like I am a preacher, but you know I can still get down. You don't

trust the profit that can't dance. But you want to hear pay so what you want to hear rap? Let me see, let me see what I want to hear. What I want to hear to say? Uh, fight the powers that be, deal that takes away though? All right, my brother, take care of Good Morning, Wanting. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We all the Breakfast Club. Let's get to the rum as. Let's talk Lauren London team. This is the Rumor Report with Angela

Yee on the Breakfast Club. So Lauren London was on a red table talk and just as a disclaimer, they did record this prior to social distancing requirements and so at the beginning Data had to give an updated introduction talking about George Floyd and Madarberry, Brianna Taylor and then she sat down with Lauren London and they talked about the trauma of gun violence and how it affects women. Now here's what Lauren London had to say about meeting

people who Nipsey Hustle changed their life. I love to meet people that nip has like really inspired because it feels like he's still here even though he is in a way, but it's like his purpose that was completely outside of any of us. His purpose he's touching people. Still a fine that when I run into people that tell me how he's changed your life. Now. She also talked about raising black boys and having to prepare them

to interact with police officers. What I instill in them is more about the police, how to handle yourself when you get pulled over, right, That's more of my education. Yes, protecting them being black men in America. How soon it's too soon to have that conversation with your with your young black young black boys, like when do your young black boys go from being cute to being scary to white America to It was funny a friend of mine calling me yesterday and had that same conversation. It was like,

well when when when have you told your kids? And I've said, uh, I think Logan was around thirteen when we had that first conversation, and I think it was around the same time one of his white friends called him and um, but my six year old. I think he's still a little innocent. He doesn't have to necessarily. I don't want to put that stress on them right now. When when it gets a little old, I think maybe ten to eleven. But I don't hide it from him.

I don't hide the news from them. They watch the news. They know about coronavirus, they know about COVID nineteen, they know about George Floyd, so they do know what's going on. But I haven't had that. There's a certain conversation yet, It's just a rough conversation to have with kids, to tell your kids that you will probably be treated differently because of the color of your skin, Like you don't know when to plant that seat, you know, you know, Yeah,

conversation all right. Lauren Lennon also talked to our Red Table talk about advice that she can give to other people who are coping with the loss of a loved one. Here's what she said. For me, what's really been important. It's like connecting with God, and that's been a struggle because something horrible happens in your eyes and you're like, how God? And knowing that there is life after this life.

It's not easy. I don't always wake up on the enlightened side of the bed, you know, in the days that I don't, I let myself because I'm human and find things that matter, and so I'll try to live with the purpose. Lord, have Mercymn prayers up for Lauren London. Always always sending Lauren London positive energy, love and light. Man r Ip Nipsey Nipsey Hustle. Absolutely, yes, a lot

of people are like man. We would love to hear Nipsey's voice right now in particular right now all right, So Calice has went on her Instagram page and she also feels like the music industry, instead of just doing

a blackout Tuesday, should also help out black musicians. She said, if the music industry wants to support black lives, labels and platforms can start with the mending contracts, distributing royalties, diversifying boardrooms, and retroactively paying back all of the black artists and their families they have built their empires on Erica bad doing a Zelia Banks also shared that message as well, not a bad message, right, yeah, I agree

with that. She's right, it's it's it's not that it's that the record label contracts have never been fair for any artists. Correct know what I'm saying, period, But it's you know, black artists have made these labels so much money, so it's just like it's bad business. Rightly of the record sold like a small percent, maybe a couple of pennies for what they sell, which is ridiculous. Like artists happened. I was on the road. That's why right now, artists,

a lot of artists are effed up. Don't get it twisted don't get the show in cash and money and all that on Instagram. Artists make their money majority of them by doing shows and being on the road. The fact that they can't be on the road and all the streams that they're seeing, they're not getting a majority of that money at all. And it's not right. Yeah,

always want to labels artists. I had a conversation with an executive and what he was telling me was that a lot of times when they do sign an artist, and you know, it's a risk because most of the artists, it's very small percentative artists that actually become stars. But when that does happen, they do go back and renegotiate a contract because they do want it to be more fair to the artists, so that the original contract that they sign, you know, they want to make sure that

they do more for them. And this executive also told me that when they do it three sixty deals, a lot of times they don't really cash in on like the merchandise and the touring and all of that. I wonder. I'm not saying it's completely fair, but I'm saying that's you know, That's why I said, I don't know if if if record labels, old artists, the old artists. Old is a strong word because you signed the contract and

it is a business. At the end of the day, it's just it's just bad business, and bad business are just a record business. I don't know both both both both. I mean, I think it is bad business, but I do think it's a record business. But I think it needs to change. And I'm hoping when we have people in power like your jay Z's that owned Rock Nation, that signs so all these artists, that's helping these artists out or helping them to sign better deals, which they are,

and that's what you need to protect themselves too. Let's be clear, they never artists to get got that got got to to to change the situation, because there are some artists who get a big chunk of money and then they don't put duce and then the label has to eat that also, all right, But so it always will be a few artists that will keep a label afloat, and then hundreds more of that end up being right off.

I guess all right, well, I mans you the yeah, and that is your room of report, all right, thank you, miss ye. Now, Charlomagne, whore you giving that donkey too. We need New Orleans Saints Drew Breese to come to the front of the congregation. We'd like to have a world with him place waiting for this one. All right, we'll get into that next. Keep a lot this to breakfast club. Good morning, donkey at the dates you get Dunky, you are, I'm gonna fatten all that around. You want

this man to Dolden blowers. Man, they're waiting for Charlomagne to top these blows. Let's have to make a judgment. Who was going to be on the Donkey of the day. They chose you because the breakfast club, bitch, you use donkey of the day to day. Donkey here today for Thursday, June fourth, goes the New Orleans Saints quarterback Drew Breese. Yeah, the man and as is very very heavy on this sandwich. Okay. I've been having a lot of conversations with my white

friends this week. They all want to know what to say, how to say it in regards to not only the Deafer George Floyd, but about their place on this planet in general, you know, the whole white, privileged, white supremacist conversation. And see, sadly, there's not a white person in America who can say that at some point someone in their family tree, someone and someone in their bloodline, their ancestors, were part of the problem. Okay, the problem being white supremacy.

It is what it is. People, nothing to be ashamed of, nothing to be embarrassed about, no matter how history books attempt to sanitize it, no matter how sweet they try to make it sound. All America was not built on Christian values. Okay, like they try to sell it, all right, please stop. Okay, America was built on the back of slavery and racism. That's it, point blank period, pooh, all right.

Slavery was America's first big business. This country was founded by old white men who were not attempted to make this country all inclusive for everyone, especially black people. Okay, we were property, like actual literal property. That's why we got to constantly tell people black lives matter, because in the Constitution it says black people were three fifths of a person, the three fists rule. That's why we were

treated it's property. Okay, So that's why we got to constantly remind you, no, I am actually a life, not a piece of property. And to this day some still look at us as as property. Okay, so yes, my white allies, that's the harsh truth. If you are ready and willing to start from that place, then we can figure out how to dismantle this mechanism called white supremacy. Now, in regards to speaking out, you shouldn't have to ask me how to speak out for another human in regard

to their pain. Okay, if you are a spiritually conscious person in any way, if you are just a human being with empathy, when you saw that video at George Floyd, you should have felt the way and whatever you felt, express it. Okay. You don't need a black person's permission for that. Okay, this is a matter, this is a matter of race, but it's also just a matter of being human. So if you want to do, if you want to know what to do, it's simple, just stand

up for other humans. Sadly, some people just don't get it. I'm not even mad at them for not getting it, because we all live in on individual bubbles, and when you are a white male, you definitely live in a bubble because this system, for the most part, works perfectly for you. Okay, this white supremacist system. Whether you are

prejudice bigoted, racist or not. Works great for most white males because it was designed by white males, so it was always going to be built in advantages, which is why when someone like Drew Brees doesn't get it, it doesn't surprise me at all. See. Drew Brees was giving an interview with Yahoo Finance. During the interview, he was asked his thoughts on the subject of players potentially kneeling during the national anthem for the twenty twenty season. Let's

hear it. I will never agree with anybody disrespecting the

flag of the United States of America. Let me just tell you what I feel when the national anthem is played, and when I look at the flag of the United States, I envision my two grandfathers who fought for this country during World War Two, and in many cases, it brings me to tears thinking about all that has been sacrificed, not just those in the military, but for that matter, those throughout the civil rights movements of the sixties and everyone and all that has been endured by so many

people up until this point. And is everything right with our country right now? No? But I think what you do by standing there and showing respect to the flag with your hand over your heart. Is it shows unity. We can all do better and then we are all part of the solution. Flag on the play. A violation is the current illegal use of white privilege. Drew Brees is marginalizing what black people are experiencing in this country because he's seeing the world through the lens of the oppressor,

not the oppressed. I am happy that when Drew Brees sees the flag of the United States of America and his grandfathers who fought for this country in World War Two, I'm glad he shed a couple of tiers. That's beautiful. But Drew Brees, black people fought in World War Two. But imagine fighting for a country that at that point didn't even give you the same civil liberties that it gave your grandparents. Drew Brees, do you know when the US into World War Two, Jim Crow's segregation had it

entered every single aspect of American society. Do you know that there were several segregated units in the military during World War Two? So even though we're all supposed to have a common enemy in a war, this country still had us divided, Okay, still looked at us as an enemy. This is why so many black folks have a problem with patriotism. How can we salute a country that historically enslaved us, marginalized us, it continues to brutalize us. See,

Drew Brees is a white privileged male. That's how he sees America. Okay, it's all roses. He's living in his life like it's golden. Okay, This white supremacist system works well for him because it's supposed to. I am not arguing with any white person about why people choose to take a knee in regards to police brutality. There's nothing to debate, Okay. If you don't get it by now, you don't want to get it. And if you're committed to misunderstanding the situation, whatever. Now I had a convo.

I did have a convo with my good brother Michael Eric Dison this weekend drop on a clues bombs from Michael Eric Dison music, explaining to me why you do have to teach white people because whether you know it or not, you are unintentionally teaching them, so you might as well be intentional about teaching them. So I keep that in mind at times like this, and I defer to one of our greatest teachers killing Mike. He was on with Jaalen and Jacobe and he had some lessons

for Drew Brees. Let's hear it. I would like to know what he considered disrespect because and when I travel and we perform in Germany, I never see a Nazi flag because Nazis are a part of history that Germany understands was a cancer and corrupt and they've grinted themselves up. Drew Blees plays in the Deep South. As we traveled through the South, we see the Confederate flag everywhere the bounds.

So if you're gonna tell me about flagging disrespecting the American flag, the fact that you live in a region that they still find a rebel flag in a Confederate flag and you don't adambly speak against that on a regular basis just tells me that you're protecting the lay of life or what you think is right. The American flag stands for the First Amendment and the ability to say what you feel about situation. Now you bear the brunt of that. You may get black ball out in

the NFL, but you have the right too. So if you support and you don't want to see the American flag disrespected. Don't look at it on buttweiser shorts at picnics, don't look at it edit a bikini shots and Playboy. Don't look at it on your favorite album covers because you think that rock band is rocking for you, be all the way with it. You're an intelligent football player.

But that was an incredibly stupid thing to stay. But I'm not going to be so burdened with the religion that has become American news and nationalism that I forget that the flag represents the United States Constitution, and the United States Constitution was written by a bunch of people who chose to protest violently in order to have a friend. So what you interpreted disrespect probably is the most patriotic thing happening today. Just something to think about, something to

think about. Drew Brees. If I had a lesson for Drew Brees, because I'm nowhere and his eloquent is killer Mike. But if I had a lesson for Drew Brees, it would be a simple homework assignment. And it's this. If you don't understand why players kneil, if you don't understand why players take a knee, then go watch the video of that White Devil cop kneeling taking a knee on George Floyd's neck for eight minutes and forty six seconds.

If you don't get it after that, well we might just need you to shut the f up forever on all issues regarding race in this country and sit the rest of this season called life out. Please let Chelsea Handler give Drew Brees the biggest he huh hee haw hee haw. That is way too much, Dan Mann, Is I wonder if he's going to address these statements now? Yes, I'm yeah. I'm sure that he'll have an enlightening moment and say that you know, he was taught so much

in the past twenty four hours. Yeah, I'm sure he will. Us he kneeled before, Yeah he did. I don't know if he was just doing that to be a good teammate or he actually knew what was going on. Who knows? All right, well, thank you for that donkey. Today. Now when we come back, ask ye eight hundred five eight five one oh five one. If you need relationship advice and any type of advice, call ye. Now it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, What what what? What? What you

wanna know? Baby? Mama issues. Need some words of wisdom. Call up now for asking eight hundred five eight five one oh five one Breakfast Club, Come on the relationship advice. Need personal advice, just need real advice, Call up down for ask ye morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela, Yee Charlomagne the guy. We are the breakfast Club. It's time to ask yee Hello. Who's this? Eric? Good morning? The rouquestion for ye Hey, good morning, good morning. Hey, oh man.

First of all, I said, blackman, don't chea. That's right all day. But your black fist in the king you already know, man, it's already up there man making me feel like you cheated. Oh boy, No, my wife okay, she cheated on you. Yes, and it's been going on for far too long. I'm tired of and none needs some advice. I have seven year old and I told my son that I would never leave him. And I'm in a bad predicament because I have to leave my

wains because I'm tired of it. Well, you know, leaving your work doesn't mean you're leaving your son, right right, right, But my son is like he wants he wants me to be right there with him. You know he want me to help them with his homework. You want me to be there, you know, to be the father sason or not. You know, when I come home troun, you better still be a father figure and still help him

with his homeworks. And I am, I am. I'm always as far to favor always, I don't care if i'm I could be in New York not New Orleans and I still be the same fall of sucker. Right, So how did you catch your wife cheating on you? How do you know? I ever wis talking about my phone. I'm in the bathroom. You know, he was in bathroom.

She sit in the room in the walls of the thing, and she's on the phone and I hear I hear talking to her dude and dude, I hear dude say, well when, um, you know, when you go back to work. This is no more than weekend, you know, And she said Tuesday, I'd like to And I hear hustaid, well, you know, be on time. So I'm like, all right, So I guess something to go was to work, but I don't go was to work. I go was fucking

a parking complax right behind mine. I said, I'm gonna go to work late that day just to see and before yeah, just that, just before, just before this happened, like about two weeks before that, you know, because a friend of mine, you know right now he's you know, he's uh locked up right now for for doing something to somebody that that um you know, one of his spotns was sleeping with his wife while he was at

work while he was all shooting. He come home due and he killed him to you know, like two weeks before that, you know, he called me and gets some contact with himself talking to him. You know, that's God giving me a sign like thankful for you act. You know, Yeah, I don't do nothing stupid. You don't want to end up in jail. Did so? I did, think, you know, I didn't even go in the house, but I saw it. I saw to go in the house. Damn. That's tough

in your own house. That's disrespectful. Yeah, that's disrespectful. You know. In mind my mind was like, well I was you know, she just gotta go, she just gotta get out. So what is it? So what happened? Did you confront them? Did you go back home? Did you call it? Like? What happened? Dude? People boy, Oh, it's your friend she was cheating with. Yeah, so you confronted them. I confronted her. I called him. I called him. I sitting there still with mom. First thing he said was I was at work.

He don't go to work till one o'clock. And this is at two o'clock in the morning. She just work. You know, I'm like, man, come on, now, what did your wife say when you confronted her. She tried to say it like I didn't see nothing, Like I didn't hear nothing on the phone, you know, And you know, she tried to make it seem like I'm crazy. You know, I'm trying to right. So yeah, definitely, yeah, one hundred percent over at you ready to move on. I can't

blame you. She not only did she cheat, she also lied, and she trying to act like you a food and she cheated in the house, right And I'm trying to tell you, you know, if you be honest, trying to work it out. But she and your first thing, she saying, ask the kids, I'm not putting the kids in my business. And I'll think, yeah, no, don't do that. That's a terrible advice. It sounds like you're very unhappy. You already know what you want to do. You want to leave

this marriage. Your wife is still lying. I can't believe that you had the willpower to not go in the house after you saw him go in there, because I definitely would have been right back inside. But kudos to you, Like you said, you had a sign from God after what happened with your friend who's in jail right now. So you know that took a lot, and I commend you for that. Yesterday I told yeah, still you still want to talk too, dal till I hate talking to

like it. Yes it. She's talking to her And the first thing she said, work, I'm going to call the police. Wow at what we're going through right now. And that's a terrible thing to say to you. Oh oh sorry, real Tyrone. Listen you are Tyrone, Get your and get out. That's all I have to say. So listen, I understand your kid is the most important thing to you in your life right now, so you need to make sure

that you handle them. I think you need to be the one to initiate everything so that no matter what happens, like she can't call the cops on you, you need to go ahead and file for divorce so that it'll be more favorable, and you're for the position that you're

in right now. And whatever you do, don't text or email or write anything or make any cause that are threatening in any way, so that you can make sure that everything is straight and smooth with your custody of your child and all of that, and get your own place or she has to get her own place, whatever y'all decide, But you do have to start making those steps to get out of there and make sure that your son knows this has nothing to do with him,

that you love him very much. And you're right when you say keep the kids out of it, all right, you know, so, thank y'all, and so what I mean, your man, bro, I appreciate you. King listens to you. Man, all right, man, take y'all have well. Go one ask ye eight hundred five eight five one oh five one. We got more when we come back. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, Coma, keep a real what what's up for you? Some real advice with Angela Ye, It's ask Ye morning.

Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne n Gay. We are the Breakfast Club. Were in the middle of ask ye, hello, who's this. What's up? Bro? What's your question for you? My girlfriend we've been together about eight years now. There's

been no problems or nothing like the family. But since all this Black Lives Matter stuff that has been going on, and I've been to protest, been to bout five protests in five days, and we blocked out there the head mistake the other day, we were met with guns and

all that. So my girlfriend's grandmother decided to give us a call and she's like telling us how she's disappointed in us that we were in following the curfew rules and we were on the highway blocking traffic, blah blah black basically, you know, dismissing everything about like the cops coming on the highway, you know, putting guns in our face for no reason and a peaceful protest. And I'm just like, I kind of got into it. What are

about it? And I'm warning I continue to educate her about it, or try to educate her about it, or should I like step back and take caution because it's my girlfriend's grandma. I don't want to, you know, start anything or me and my girl because grandma's school, you know, uneducated about this. What is your girlfriend think about this? Well, I mean she's a REMERSI she was a sheriff actually, and she's with me in every march, Like you know

what I'm saying. She's screaming black power, she's swimming no justice, no peace, she does videos and she's just her grandmother's matter her because she's like, oh, you can lose your job, blah blah blah blah blah blah. She's just like, well, I mean, yeah, you're right, I can. But it's like, I'm gonna do what's right. Right. Well, Listen, whenever people are trying to have a revolution, there's always people who aren't on board, right, who aren't gonna be agreeing with

the ways that you do things. And sometimes those people are in your own family. And from my own experience of having to deal with grandparents who were not like that at all, you know, sometimes, first of all, I would say, this is more of your girlfriend's situation because it is her grandmother. So I don't want you and your girlfriend to have issues because of that. And so it feels like this might be something that she'll have to deal with and you have to follow her lead

on that because it's her family. Yeah, because she's like a real, like family person. That's why I like, I wanted to, you know what I mean, educate her the more. But I'm like, no, I don't have no trouble with me, my girl. We haven't had trouble in a long time, and I don't want to start right. I think you and your girlfriend should have a conversation about how you guys collectively want to handle it and if and I

think you should follow her lead on that. Now, if this was your family, then I would say, you know, that's up to you how you want to handle it. You know your family, and I know it can be really frustrating to have these conversations with people who are set in their ways and aren't trying to hear what you have to say. So you know, sometimes it is a losing battle to have those arguments, and you still have to keep going out there and doing the work.

But I don't want you and your girlfriend, who are in accord right now, to have issues. So I would let my girlfriend take the lead on this. Tell her, look, this is your family, your grandmother. However you want to handle it, I want to respect that, and I'm always down to have respectful conversations, but that is your grandmother,

so it's kind of more on her. I just still like when I go around now, it's gonna be like different, Like you know what I'm saying, because when I first when I first met them, I don't talk as they would say, you know, black quote unquote. I talk intelligence and I And when I first met they told me like, oh people say that, yeah exactly. So I know when I go to her house for the next family is and or whatever, it's gonna be like really awkward. And so I'm just I just feel like we need to

have a conversation. But at the same time, like I said, it's my girlfriend's family, so I'm just back the bullet and see what she's gonna be like that she should have a conversation with them without you there also, you know, and try to have that conversation on her end. But like I said, you know, if that means, I'm going to support my girlfriend, but I'm not really trying to engage in too much conversation. Yeah, you know, it's sometimes it's really hard to try to force people to understand

things that they don't want to understand. Yeah, that's true, but we appreciate you, and you keep on doing what you have to do and you and your girlfriend and don't let things like this cause a wedge in your relationship. I even felt like, if I need to just kind of fall back and stay away from them, I will, you know, but you can't ever force people to understand something. All you can do is engage in the conversation, and it can be too frustrating for you two at times.

You've made the attempts. Well, I definitely appreciate that you just made it made it clear for me that I'm doing the right thing when it comes to this right now, Yeah, you did your part. Yes man, All right, take care of time. I want to tell y'all three thank you because I work and I'm driving all day and you guys help us get through the day right or at least the morning. Thank you for listening. You know, we family,

so we appreciate you. Ask Ye eight on dread five A five one on five, and if you need relationship advice to any type of advice, you can call ye. Now we got rumors on the way, yes, and we are going to talk about Trina and some remarks that she made on her show earlier. This week, and we'll tell you the back and forth that happened on social media as a result of it. All right, we'll get into that next keeping lock this the Breakfast Club, Good morning,

the Breakfast Club. Listen, it's just oh gosh, got angel and it's the rum of report Breakfast Club. So Trina was turned in yesterday and those are because of the comments that she made on her morning show when she was talking about the protesters in Miami. Now, she was upset about her friend's business being destroyed. She was upset about people dying and lives that have been taken away. And here's what she had to say about the protesters. They gin, if you make the curfew and fix PM

to fix them, that's how I feel. No, keep everybody off the street, these animals off the streets that are running around in Miami Day County acting like there have escaped from a zoo. Locked him up at five PM so the streets could be nice and clean. That's how I feel. Lives, all right, the black lives that matter, right, the same black lives that I take it from the hands of other black people that was up that was

matter two times all y'all fake. But the protests and the fake Oh we're so concerned about George Poyd go on marching. I don't even care about this man, people. I just dormed the wall every body. Everybody wanted to look, getting burning up and stuff. When the ponies getting behind you and the ram and blue lights come home. You're not supposed to be scared. You never scared. I have my life of the registration and assurance. I'm not scared, Okay, Trina.

I don't agree with nothing you're saying, but I like the energy you just say that like that, like you she got me, I don't. She got me? Am I want to I want to scream now. I got time today, But I got time today, damnage? All right, all right? And then she had it back and forth after that

on social media with Messica. You know Mesica from loving her pop and you know, Messica was saying that she needed to come to the front of the congregation basically, and she asked Kaye to come and drag this coon Trina back to the swamp before I get her, and then the two of them had a really nasty back and forth on social media. Trina told Messica first of all, bumass find out who your baby daddy really is, and she told her, and you don't know what the f

you are talking about. You think you can come up here and talk is to me, you scumbag. You can't how I'm ready and I'm not the one. And then Trina told her, but first of all, that video was edited to what I said. Second of all, if you don't know the exact facts, stfu. If you want answers of clarification, say that. But you will not think you come up here and talk ish about me, because you can't.

And things really spiraled after that. Messica told her, pull up okay as a coming, let me book this fight so I can fight your dumbass way. Trina, you're acting like an animal, don't you dear quote Rihanna or an actual activist who pulls up? Girl? The world cloud wasn't even the world cloud wasn't even inventive when you were relevant. Take your afternoon nap and she will so called her, Karen, you take an afternoon nap. I can hear it right now,

go ahead. I didn't like the afternoon nappart afternoon nap, afternoon after great effect it. I was all of that in capital letgy I know, but some of it was Ah, it was in capitals, all right, But yeah, it went on and on and on from there. And I'm gonna be honest, I did not like seeing these two women going at it like that on social media, with the world weighing in and speaking to each other in that way. Now, this morning, Traina did get on the radio and apologize.

Here's what she said. Me and my trainers were, I'm automatically speaking for black people. I am the black people. I am black people. That's why I'm speaking for and I'm not gonna say black people are animals. And this is why the day after where we spoke to the commissioner, I said to Trick, well, I learned a lot more about what's really happening. And it's more than just in

the streets of people, you know, doing whatever. It's it's commissioners, it's the governor's to me, it's all these people, it's the chief of police. I had no idea of that, So now I'm understanding that, and these are the people that has to protect the CDs. No, I don't like that energy training. I want I need that hand clapp and I got time to day energy. I don't like that little docile apology energy. I don't like that. Well, she's explaining herself. She's explaining herself with what she met.

Sometimes when we get upset and we get mad, things come out of our mouth that we could have said differently, and maybe that's what she's clearing up. Well, listen, apologies are always great when you know you're wrong. There's nothing wrong with acknowledging that wrong, but it's just backlash apologies. I don't like backlash apologies. I don't like apologies that when you know people have been coming at you, you're like, okay,

I'm sorry now. Well, she did say she had conversations with local officials and they did educate her on some things. So you know, it is a big to be able to apologize and admit that you were wrong and have these conversations with people, you know. I still don't really like the dragging of people like that on social media, and I am all for educating. I love training it though.

I just don't know what she thought was wrong in that situation, you know what I'm saying, Like, you have to know why people are protesting, you know, you have to know why they're angry, even when it comes to the looting. You may not like it, but you know, you don't got to call them animals. It's not like they just out there doing that for no reason. It's a reaction to, you know, black people getting killed in

this country at the hands of the police over it. Yeah, but she's seen it from a different side, I'm sure, and that doesn't make it right. She's seen it from the side one of her best friends owns a clothing store or a store, and you know, everything that she worked for they pretty much took. So that's what she was saying. I think material Yeah, I get it, but it's material things and property that can't take place. Insurance you can't you know, fix it. And there's a lot

of things that led up to this. So uh, And this is an ongoing conversation because there's a lot of people who have felt like that, and I see a lot of people expressing themselves in that way and wondering why are people are protesting, why are they doing this, why are they going after target I see people saying this all day long, up and down the timeline. So I build those buildings will be back, those black bodies won't, all right, And now another person who actually had to

roll back what he said was Drew Brees. He made some comments about NFL player protests, and he was asked about whether or not he thinks players will be kneeling during the national anthem when football resumes. And here's what Drew Brees said. I will never agree with anybody disrespecting the flag of the United States of America. Let me, let me just tell you what I feel when the national anthem is played, and when I look at the flag of the United States, I envision my two grandfathers

who fought for this country during World War Two? And is everything right with our country right now? No, we still have a long way to go. But I think what you do by standing there and showing respect to the flag with your hand over your heart, is it shows unity. It shows that we are all in this together, we can all do better, and then we are all

part of the solution. Well, of course, those comments cause a huge amount of backlash from other NFL players, players on his own team, from everybody, Lebron James, you know,

Stephen Jackson. Now Drew Brees has posted. First, he posted a picture of a black and white hand interlocked, and then he said, I would like to apologize to my friends, teammates, the city of New Orleans, the black community, NFL community, and anyone I hurt with my comments yesterday, And speaking with some of you, it breaks my heart to know the pain I have caused. So he said he wants to talk about respect, unity and the solidarity centered around

the American flag and the national anthem. And he made comments that were insensitive and completely missed the mark on the issues we are facing right now as a country. They lacked awareness and any type of compassion or empathy. Instead, those words had become divisive and hurtful, and I had misled people into believing that somehow I am an enemy. This could not be further from the truth and is not an accurate reflection of my heart or my character.

And then he talks about where he stands with the black community and the fight against systemic racial injustice and police brutality, and he said support the creation of real policy change that will make a difference. He also condemned the years of oppression. I mean it goes on. So you know I gave donkey. I gave him donkey to day to day, and Donkey that day still stands. I wonder if he's ever spoken out against a police officer

killing a black man. You know, you know how that's so quick to be like, you shouldn't disrespect the flag, and you know the flag means something. I wonder if he's ever had that same energy for you know, a police officer killing an unarmed black man, as he ever jumped out there and said, you shouldn't kill anar black people, you shouldn't kill black people, you know what I mean. I wonder, But you know he's he's he's knelt with his teammates before and just reading his comments, you see that.

You know some of the people that that follow him. Uh, you know, you don't have to apologize, you were right. Don't apologize now that was just your opinion. You know, there's a lot of people that believe in what he said, which which I don't understand. I really don't. And and by the way, putting the black hand shaking the white hand, that's the whitest apology in the world. Like I would

rather you put cream vanila ice cream and chocolate ice cream. Yeah, I would rather you put vanilla ice cream and chocolate ice cream. Oh my goodness, Like that had that handshake look crazy. All right, well, we'll see you what happens next. And that was very well crafted as like more of a press release. Damn man, I just don't end the black. The black and white hand shap looked like the beginning of a purp at stupid. All right, well, let me answer the yee and that is your room of report.

All right, thank you, miss ye revolt. We'll see you guys tomorrow. Everybody else to People's Choice mixes up next, get your request in. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, putt, DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlotmae, nic Gay. We all the Breakfast Club. We have a special guest on the line, Deanna Williams. Welcome. Good to be here with you and

v Angela and Charlotte Maine. Now, Deanna Williams, I know this is an important time because we have so many things to talk about, but it is also Black Music Month, something that you actually was one of the architects of. So let's talk about that, yes, Angelo. Nineteen seventy nine, President Jimmy Carter hosted the first June Black Music Month event at the request of the Godfather, Clarence Avant and

some other prominent people in the industry. But the co founders of this period of time are multi Grammy Award winning songwriter, producer Kenny Gamble, broadcaster Edwright, myself, and members of the Black Music Association. And it's the forty first anniversary of June Black Music Month. Tell us ab important Black? Absolutely, it's very important because the music industry generated twenty billion

dollars last year. And when you look at the top of the charts right now, at the top of the one hundred list of top selling records, eight of those top ten records are by Black artists. You guys know that hip hop is the number one genre around the world, not just here in America, but all over the planet. So what does that tell us? Black people are making and selling a ton of music, and that's important because

it's our culture and it's indigenous to America. You talk about those billions of dallas, you know, I think a lot of it is not trickled down to the artists. A lot of us is not trickled down to the producer. A lot it's not trickled down to the actual singer, which is very, very sad. You know, people are making billions of dallars and they're artists there that are still struggling, losing their homes, losing their cars, and that have sold

millions of millions of records. That's that's the horrible thing about that. That's been going on for a long time, which is why as a proud member of the National Museum of African American Music based in Nashville, we will be opening September twenty twenty. It is an institution designed to highlight the contributions of black folks in this country

from the sixteen hundreds onto now. But we are also fighting for artists to get more, not just artists, reducers, engineers, music makers in general to get a larger piece of this twenty billion dollars. And and be back to your question about why is June Black Music Month important, Well, this is a multibillion dollar business. One we don't tend to think of our music that way, but it is.

It's created by black people, it's co opted and imitated by others, and we appreciate the compliments, but we want to be able to economically participate in all of these billions of dollars. And I might add it's the everyday man and woman who's enriching the coffers of those major record companies. We want our fair share. So the museum is a repository. We have over seven galleries of beautiful information artifacts about our contribution. Our contributions keep getting overlooked

Black folks. We were forced immigrants to this country and music is what we use to soothe us in this terrible you know, situation where we were taken from our original homes in Africa, brought over here and free labor for four hundred years. So what you hear in our music is passion, it's joy, it's pain, and it's our soundtrack every day. Think about how much music you consume. First of all, let me also just say that June Black Music Month is an opportunity to celebrate the three

of you. You are promoters of the culture. Think about how much music you've played amby in your career. Absolutely okay. You play music that can elevate the spirits of people, and we use it to get us through hard times, good times, turn up, fall in love, fall out of love.

Music is intricral to our survival in this country. You know what else, though, it is fascinating to me, and we're gonna I want to talk more about the museum, and I do, of course, I want to talk more about black music man, how you actually got this legislation pass because I read about how you had never done anything like this before, and I know a lot of us right now feel really powerless as far as what can we do in our government to make things happen,

you know, to create change. And so can you discuss how that actually happens, because I don't think people understand the process of how you can initiate that and actually bringing out some type of change. Oh well, I appreciate you sharing that. Okay. So nineteen seventy nine, President Jimmy Carter hosting this big event that on the lawn of the White House. It had been done by the Country Music Association in years earlier, but then he said June

is Black Music Month. This was at the encouragement of the Black Music Association. Well, fast forward to when President Clinton was in office. I wrote him and asked him to host a similar event. Well, the White House came back and said, well, we've gone through the archives and we see where President Carter declared June black Music Month.

But go get us some legislation. Come back, President Clinton will sign a proclamation and we'll celebrate June Black Music Month officially from the perspective of the White House and Congress. So I put on my most comfortable pair of shoes and started walking office to office on Capitol Hill, knocking on people's doors, writing letters. We just really worked hard. And I don't want to take the credit alone, because again there were group of people, but I was out

in the front pushing. And finally the legislation. I wrote the draft for it. They put all the ware as and it got passed, and then I was in and out of the White House, private meetings in the Oval Office for President Clinton, President George Bush, on and on, and that's basically the story of June Black Music Month. But we're in our forty first year, and again I want to stress that it's an economic engine, and it's our American soundtrack. It's how we get up in the morning,

it's how we function through the day. And now, as we see American cities and international capitals supporting our efforts here in America against police brutality, music has always been test. Music has always been at the forefront of our endeavors here in this country. And it's no different right now.

So as the co chair of the Music Industry Relations Committee and on behalf of Henry Hicks, who is the CEO of the museum, we're taking a strong scand in solidarity with people who are protesting around the world about the injustices of racism. Part of what the birth of black music in this country was born out of the

cruelty of racism. So long answer to your short question, but that's how the legislation got passed and it has been celebrated by every American president since and again, if people want to become part of our movement and support they can do so by joining go to Black Music Museum dot com and happy birthday June black music must one years young, but anyway years and we're gonna have you and Henry Hickson as closer to when the museum is going to open so we can make sure we

really ramp that UPPs, thank you so much for your support. I really appreciate it. Support you. Thank you all right, Thank you Diana Williams for joining us. Now, Charlemagne, you got a positive note, yes man for everybody out there that's a you know, doing a little so we y'all don't have to do a lot. I just want you to know that act as if what you do makes a difference, because it does. Breakface Club, this is you all. Finish with y'all, doune

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