I'm figuring it out for some reason that the solid holding down the bag rage let me agitate the breakfast club. Everyone just kept telling the prepaid word to describe the breakast club with the bottle impacting the culture. People watch the breakfast Club for like news and really be tuned in. Man, I don't even know what it called the breakfast club. It's like brunch n by Yea and Cholomagne. Wake that ass up, get out of bed and listen to the
breakfast Club. I'm waiting Bato bao ba ba yo. Good morning Usa yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo. Good morning Angela, ye good Morning's Charlomagne the guy peace to the plane in this Thursday. Yes, it's Thursday, which means it's the weekend if you want it to be okay, it's all on you. If you want to start your weekend now, you can absolutely start your weekend now. Life is all
about perspective. So to me, the weekend starts now. Drop on a clue. Thursday, Okay, that means we're not coming to word the more. But he's just gonna do this not at the weekend. It is the weekend. Now, we gotta go to work tomorrow. I work on the weekend too, I feel like, So no mess up weekend. Okay, if you don't want it to be the weekend, you don't have to make it. Let it be the weekend. It's the weekend for me then. Okay, so you're identifying as
the weekend, I am identifying is the weekend today? It's trans Friday. Trans weekend starts now, okay, all right, yes, whatever you say, right, all right? Well, I want to shout out to Greenwood Bank and to the Gathering Spot. I hosted a conversation for them on Twitter space yesterday. They were talking about Greenwood Bank acquiring the Gathering Spot, two black owned businesses coming together to help create generational wealth. Yes, so it was a great conversation. So shout out to
them and everybody who was listening. Okay, and also today, mister Wonderful will be joining us this morning. Tell them who mister wonderful is because that could be a wrestler point star. What Kevin O'Leary You probably know him from Shock Tank. Oh, I was waiting. Uh. Yeah, he's the gentleman that is probably the meanest on Shark Tank and tries to get the worst deals. A lot of the times. The deals always benefit him, but that's how you know, worst deals for the other people people. Yeah, he's a
shrewd businessman, as they would say. But he's gonna be joining us this morning. Were gonna be talking about our shark taking some of the things that he's working on. So we're gonna be chopping it up with him in a little bit. Let's get the show cracking front page news. What we start with? All right? Well, let's start with Nike versus stock X. All right, we'll get into it suiting down ro versus way. No, that's we had that this morning. Don't worry. That's the next hour. Nike verst
stock X is more important. Well, we have we havenas all right, what's the breakfast club? Morning? The breakfast club. Let's getting some front page news. All right, yesterday, did you watch the game, Charlote mine, I watched the Bucks in the Celtics. Phenomenal, phenomenal game. It shows you why defense wins championships. Dropping the clues bons for the Milwaukee Bucks. That game was phenomenal. I can't remember a defensive sequence like that in a long time. Bucks beat the Celtics
one ten, one oh seven, phenomenal. The Grizzlies without Jaw killed the Warrior's Last Night one thirty four to ninety five. Ye went to fell asleep watching that? Yeah, I went to sleep on that game. It looked like it was it wasting. Why it's weird though, I mean, I was almost one of those times when somebody comes in way too comfortable. They came into comfortable with the last game that Joe didn't play. Yeah, I mean they ended up winning,
barely winning. But Curry had fourteen, Thompson had nineteen. Uh Green only had five, and Pool only had three points. All right, what else we got? Easy? All right? Well, Chris Paul's mom, Robbin, had told what happened to Kenny Smith inside the NBA and talked about the fan allegedly harassing her and getting physical with her during the Mavericks win one eleven to one on one. And here is what Kenny Smith said happened. She was very out of
it about put out. She's like no Kenny, and he was trying to be funny by continually topping me saying happy mothers say, and she said, well, thank you, but don't touch me. And she continued to do that and then at the in between would scream out obsnities about the suns after suns after suns and continue to topper.
So that's when it escalated, uh to that baca too, because I think then Jaden Uh Chris's wife tried to go up to tell feet uh the security and the bar not to serve him anymore because he was a Navy I thought it was the teenager kid. It wasn't a team that everybody who thought it was the sixte
year old kids that they were. They were two unruly fans. Yeah, I guess not if they were drinking drinking right, right, And so that person was removed by security during the game and on Monday, the Mavericks said in the statement two unruly fans had been banned until twenty twenty three, so they said that behavior is unacceptable. They need more than that he need. They need to get arrested, Like banning him don't mean anything, And how did they know
who's banning or not? They get the purchase tickets off StubHub and then go to the game and nobody know who they are. That's love an offense. If you are a fan of a team and you get banned from here by how are you really bad? What do you mean? You can buy a ticket and just walk right in. You know, I think they put your name on a listen to something. Yeah, but they put your face in the front door and security everywhere's thousand people walking into
the game. You think they can. Hell, yeah, I think they can. If your dad goes to somebody at the game, We're telling man, if your dad goes to a Jets game, he wears a hat on and goes, well, nobody's gonna know. What's hell, there's no way you They got a twenty thousand people that they see weekly, they're gonna remember you. Welcome all right now. The general manager of the Nets, Sean Marks, was speaking out about Kyrie Irving's future with the Nets, and here's what he had to say. It's
honestly not just Kyrie. I mean, you bring Kyrie up, but we have decisions to make on a variety of different free agents throughout throughout our roster. We haven't had any of those discussions yet, so it would be unfair for me to comment on you know how it looks with us and Kyrie because, to be quite frank, he has some decisions to on his arm, so he has to look at what he's gonna do with this player
option and so forth like that. But I think we know we're looking for you know, we're looking for guys that want to come in here, be part of something bigger than themselves, play selfless, play team basketball, and be available. And that goes not only for Kyrie, but for everybody here. He's basically talking to Kyrie. He's saying Kyrie is selfish, and he's saying Kyrie thinks it's all about him. That's basically what he said. Yeah, but will another team, you know,
invest in gamble with Kyrie? I don't know. Like Stephen A. Smith said, you know, he would never sign Kyrie to a long term deal, he said he would do it by a year on a year by year basis all right. Now Nike versus stock X. Now, Nike is complaining and has a filing against stoc X, And the most damning of these statements includes Nike's claim that they purchased four counterfeit peers that purported Nikes through stock X between December of last year and January of this year. You know,
they're supposed they're supposed to authenticate the sneakers. Now. Stock X has responded and said, we take customer protection extremely seriously, and we've invest millions to fight the proliferation of counterfeit
products that virtually every global marketplace faces today. Nike's latest filing is not only baseless, but also it's curious, given that their own brand protection team has communicated confidence in our authentication process and that hundreds of Nike employees, including currency and your executives, use stock x to buy and sell products. Yeah, which is real weird. I know you've been in stock x before. I've been as well. They
took us to the whole authentication process. Yeah. They usually hire people that used to work at these brands, so like you know, they sell handbags, they sell watches there, now they also sell sneakers, So they usually hire people that used to work at Nike and work for data, so work for these places to see if those sneakers are real or not. So I know stock X, I it's like anything else. They will be fixed, they get through, but they really have a program to really try to
stop that. Like they don't play with it. You know, stock x says they use over one hundred data points and that their authenticators are better equipped than anyone to verify a shoe legitimate scene to the point where they start with the smell of the sneak, like they could smell a sneak and see, you know, if the leather's real or where the leather came from, like they get busy over their stock acts. I'm not saying that because I get endorsed. I'm not endorsement number. But we went
through the proxies to actually see and we tried. I think we even tried. We're trying to figure out a fake sneak, and yeah we both got it right. But you know they smell it to see, all right. I didn't smell them, but um, that is your front page news, all right, get it off your chests. Eight hundred five eight five one on five one. If you need to vent phone lines a wide open eight hundred five eight five one. I just bought something from stock Achts too.
Now I'm gonna double and triple check, damn it. Man. All right, we should be here in a couple of days. So eight hundred five eight five one on five one, get it off your chests as the Breakfast Club. Good morning the Breakfast Club. This is your time to get it off your chests, whether you're man or blast, so you better have the same in we want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello. Who's this Hi? This is Dalia. Get it off your chests? My mom?
All right? So dj NVY, I got a question that my boyfriend I have not stop talking about this September of last year. So we was in Atlantic City. You were doing your real estate seminars and my boyfriend and I were in the same garage as you. And when we saw we were celebrating our fifth anniversary, and we saw you pull up and the beutiful dark green, matted STUV looking car. And from the drive from New Jersey back to Connecticut, we could not figure out what kind
of car was You liked that car? That guess guess what kind of car was? She can't. We were thinking raindrover or a geepeep. It's actually a Ford Explorer. That's my assistants call. My assistant picked me up from the airport mercendes and drove me. Yet it's a Ford Explorer. It's don'te right, look like a range rover. She um, she rapped in Matt Green and it's hard. Everybody thinks it's a rain drover or a bend, but now it's
actually at Joe. Oh my gosh, my Instagram, I'm upcoming actors. Also, yeah, ahead, all right, it's Dolly underscored like Salvador. Okay, mommy, you have to go in and shout to my assistant. Yes, so Matt Green, she loves that call. And everybody thinks it's a range or bands or something else, but not so, it's a Ford as for us. Dope, it's beautiful. Y'all. Stay bless and stay powerful less. Hello, who's this? Good morning, my comedy buddy. And oh my gosh, this is Stacks
snack Man. This is snack Man. This is our resident comedian from the Breakfast Class. No, he's Angel's personal comedian. Yes, and thank you for these seven hundred views for my birthday month And um yeah, I replaced that video with my maybe Ford set. Get to it, man, we don't have time for this. I know what Will Smith a k a. The slap Man of Bellaire was thinking moments before he slapped Chris Rock at the Oscars. What was it. I can't believe you got Amy Schumer instead of snack Man.
Thank you, Angela. I want to tell you have a blessed dament. I ain't waiting God's time to laugh at his jokes like you encourage him to keep writing and chest sometimes that be so funny, because that's not funny, never funny. I've never laughed. I never laughed either, not even chuckle. Snack Man, keep going, keep going on? What Yeah? I want you to keep keep living, but don't keep going that comedy. Get it off your chest eight hundred five eight five one oh five one. If you need
to vent, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. I'm I'm what's doing of yo? If this is your time to get it off your chest, whether you're mad or blessed. Eight hundred five eight five one five one. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Ye? Metro tankets fill slob oh jacobs van, what's happening? My brother's not much? Man? Did call and say what about to the brother club man? Djamaine?
And yes, sir, hey look good in the morning. Man, and hey just say I appreciate what you'll do and all that. Man, appreciate you king, alright, brother, Oh yeah, man, hey, um, I will go plow up my sun man man, but she wouldn't wake up. I hope she did it. I try to get a little vesiness out there. But do it anyway, you know. You know, the Breakfast Club is also a podcast, and so she can listen to it later on the podcast. All right, well, Sean, then my
big su Shuana Trump. If you hit it, I'm shooting you out. Hey. Check out her name on Moments and Memories. She does decorations. It's fantastic. I mean she win you do baby showers, anything you need, you know, because she really good man, and she affordable. Right nine times we need that. All right, brother, you have a go with man. Hello, who's this? What's up? He say? Everything? Good morning, breakfast lu this is over my cat. You doing? But Mike,
what's up? Getting off your chest real quick? Angela yee. I can't make your eye this year, but I will make DJ and The's car show this year. Which one You're coming to Houston or Atlanta? I'll be in Houston. I want to see if I give my car in there. But I know I'll have to type car for you. No, I don't matter. I mean if you got a call, that's what the car shows about, type of anything in particulars,
whatever you put your your working effort into. Man, it's a two two thousand and nine to the camera with two hundred and thirty five thousand miles like that. That's my style right there, that's my style. Right there. We got we got a section for you in the in the car sho for that, bro, I'm just packing line. That's disrespectful. Last thing, Hey, I got your book and
I get an autograph. I got your book. Yeah, my wife would be there and I'll be there, so yeah you can get you could get both our signatures, all right. Last thing, when you're gonna give our free books, Charlomagne, give our books when you're gonna give him out, I'm not Charlomagne. I'm not Charlomagne over there, but we definitely will be out there and I can't wait to meet you. But Mike, all right, cool, I'll see ya out there. I'm assuming he drives Google. I'm just gonna assume that.
I think, So, Hello, who's this yea hampste getting up your chest. You don't know, Hey, I want you has to play the song Moonlight by jay Z from ZWN four forty four. Love that record. Yeah, I think that speaks so much is going on with these rappers getting locked up and all that, and seeing how Wallow was speaking young dog about how he should keep his head in cool while he h up on top of anything. So I think moon Mike is a good song. Listening to you for everybody. Jay Z got uh what song
was that you got hit with the rico? It was all good just a week ago? What song with that? I don't remember? That was the one with you short? It was all good just a weekend David album. No, I don't remember, I remember. All right, brother, we have a good one man, all right, boss, all right, get it off your chest. Eight hundred five eight five one on five one. If you need to vet, you can hit us up now. He got rooms on the way. Yes. And let's talk about Regina King. You know, ever since
her son passed, people have not seen her. But now we've actually seen a picture of her and will tell you who posted it and what the caption was. All right, we'll get into that next. It's the Breakfast Club good morning. The Breakfast Club owning everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get to the rumors. Let's talk Regina King. It's about Angela Yee the Breakfast Club. All right, Well, Regina King's cousin posted
a picture of her and he also captained it. Seeing cousin smile made today complete and continue to pray for the mothers who are living without their children. As you know, Regina King's son, her only son, her only child, Ian Alexander Junior, took his own life on Saturday, January twenty second. He was only twenty six years old. She has been out of the public eye ever since that happened. She did release a statement in January. Our family is devastated
at the deepest level by the loss of Inn. He is such a bright light who cared so deeply about the happiness of others. Our family asked for a respectful consideration during this private time. Thank you, and so there was not much said since then other than Vivica Fox on Cocktails with Queens revealing a text message that Regina
wanted people to see. And that's it. You know that she was doing okay, So it's nice that he was able to post a picture of the two of them on FaceTime with her smiling, spending healing energy to Regina King always absolutely all right. Now, Peter is mad at Sierra and at Russell Wilson for what. Well, they got a new puppy from Mother's Day, but Peter is saying that they clearly bought that puppy from a breeder and did not rescue a dog from a shelter instead. Oh,
come on, Peter, knock it off. The couple's new dog, Broncho, is a pure bread and likely from a breeder, they said, where mother dogs are often locked inside filthy cages and bread over and over until their bodies give out. And they said, Peter is calling on the couple to level up unkindness by adopting a companion for this pep instead of feeling the homeless animal crisis. Not much that dog
probably costs that they bought a lot. Exactly, Come on, Ingrid and everybody at Peter knock it off about how much it cuss exactly. The dog got a home, all right. They don't like the conditions where dogs are bread. The dogs in better conditions now Ingrad and Peter who's ingrid Ing is the president of Peter they harassed. I'm not they sending me stuff all the time, and they send me stuff up here all the time. Oh I don't.
Inger's always sending me books and magazines and cards. And she sent me a wallet which didn't I didn't just made out of leather. It's made out of clan wallet. Angry. But for Peter to come up on the show, I have no problem with Peter. You should send it back and say you can't accept it because the leather is you know, yes, but Peter, it's leather. I don't know. But Peter's read okay. And they, you know, when they didn't want us to use animal terms, like you can't
call somebody a chicken. You can't say bullpen one baseball and that's ridiculous. Come on, I guess I can't say bulls. You know, can't come on? All right? Young Thug is facing seven additional felony charges following the police raid at his Atlanta home. They raided his home in Buckhead and in addition to RICO and participation in criminal street gang activity accounts, he was hit with during his arrest on Monday.
Now he has seven new felony charges that includes possession of marijuana with intent to distribute, possession of a controlled substance with intent to distribute, possession of firearm during commission of a felony, possession of start off shotgun, salt off rifle, machine gun, dangerous weapon or silencer, and three charges of unlawful participation in criminal gang activity while employed by associated with a criminal street gang. Well, don't raid my house
and you wouldn't find all this stuff. Give me an opportunity to turn myself in all r right now, young thugs. Father recently did an interview with the local Atlanta news station and here's what Jeffrey Williams Senior had to say. I think my son has been I am family linked to a lot of payers, but you know, he sho tell us the proof. He said he's gonna fight for him until the end because I'm his father, absolutely all right. So, in addition to that, Gunna has appeared in court as lawyer.
His lawyers are proclaiming that he's innocent, and they point out what a huge allied Gunner has been to Atlanta over the last few years. They he created the first ever free in school grocery and clothing store. He fed over four hundred children weekly, hosted nationally sponsored giveaways for
victims of disasters and food shortages. They did say in a statement to TMZ that the indictment falsely portrays his music as part of a criminal conspiracy and that mister Kitchens, his real name is Sergio Kitchens, has been an advocate for his community and it is our privilege to advocate for him. Yeah, I don't even understand what they got GUNNA connected to. I mean, YSL is a record label. So if I'm signing to YSL and I'm shouting out YSL, and even if I'm throwing up a YSL sign, it's
because of the record label. So I don't even see what the charge GUNN is connected. They is a conspiracy to violate a reco What does that even mean? I have no idea all r right now. Casanova has pleaded guilty in a federal racketeering case. He's been accused of having a leadership role in the Untouchable Guerrilla Stone Nation
Blood's gang. He pleaded guilty to one count of conspiring to conduct and participate in the conduct of the affairs of a criminal enterprise through a pattern of racketeering activity, and another count of conspiring to distribute over one hundred
kilos of marijuana. So in addition, they said, according to reports, he admitted with his guilty plead just shooting at someone with whom he was having a gambling dispute at a party in Florida in July of twenty twenty, and he admitted to participation in marijuana trafficking and a twenty eighteen a robbery. The maximum prison sentence for him for the two counts is sixty years with a mandatory minimum of five years in prison, and sentenced in is as scheduled
to take place on December six. The moral of the story is do the right thing. Y'all can have these screets, and if the people around you don't want to grow and level up when you do, leave them, leave them, leave them, man, all right? That so he did think Chris Brown also for sending him money to while he's
been locked up, that's good. I'm glad see Breezy is doing that, because I wonder about stuff like that, because you see these guys and you know they'd be around everybody in the industry and partying and dancing and everything else. It's like, when they're in these situations, are they still getting held there? All right? And Jenny May spoke out yesterday on the rail about whether or not she is joining Real Housewives of Atlanta. There were rumors that she
was joining the cast. Here's what you had to say. I literally was over here just having a baby and I'm hearing these rumors. I was like, where, how am I going to go from this into that? Because that's a full time job. They're all, but you would make an excellent housewife. What is it? Is? My friend? Oh, I live for you and I love you ladies, Chill, I love all your ladies. But I know that's a complete rumor. I haven't talked to one person my people. I haven't talked to one from Bravo. So that was
a complete rumor that got made up. I'm gonna leave it to you, guys. Closed it was a wall, all right. That was Kenya from Real Housewoves of Atlanta with Genie my So it's not happening, and that is your rumor reports, all right, Thank you, Missy. Now front page News, what we're talking about. We'll be talking about Joe Biden on the Senate vote on the Women's Health Protection Act. You know, the fundamental rights for women are at risk at the
Supreme Court. And we'll tell you what happened. All right, we'll get into that next. It's the breakfast Club, Go Morning, So breakfast Club, your morning's will never be the same. Angela Ye, here from my friends at the General Insurance switched to the General and you could save over five hundred dollars on your car insurance. Call eight hundred General or visit the General dot com to find out more. The General Auto Insurance Services, Inc. An insurance agency in Nashville, Tennessee.
Some restrictions apply from one New York I Heart radio station. Morning everybody is dj MV. Angela Ye, Charlomagne the guy. We are to break fis club. Let's get in some front page news. Yesterday the Bucks beat the Celtics one ten, one oh seven. Zis beat the Warriors one thirty four to ninety five, blew them out. Just watch the last two minutes of that Bucks Celtic game. And if you ever want to see what you know a real defense looks like in why defense wins Championships? All right, now,
let's talk about the Women's Health Protection Act. It had already passed the House, and then it was shot down at the Senate. Here is what Kamala Harris had to say after the vote on the protecting the right for women to choose. The majority of the American people believe in defending a woman's right her choice to decide what happens strum her own body, and this vote clearly suggests that the Senate is not where the majority of Americans
are on this issue. It also makes clear that a priority for all who care about this issue, a priority should be to elect pold choice leaders at the local, the state, and the federal level, because what we are seeing around this country our extremist Republican leaders who are seeking to criminalize and punish women from making decisions about
their own body. All of that is true, But once again President Joel Mansion, the loan Democrat who joined all the Republicans to tank the bill that would help to protect voting rights, and it's incredible to me that even with a woman, Vice President Kamala Harris and all these women in that administration, they still won't use this opportunity to finally start calling out the person who is always
stopping progress. President Joe Mansion, Well, not one Republican in Congress voted for this bill, and as you know, Joe Mansion is a loan Democrat who did also tank this. Here's what Joe Mansion had to say to reporters about voting against the Women's Health Protection Act. We're going to be voting on a piece of legislation which I will not vote for today, but I would vote for a rov Waite qualification if it was today. I was hopeful for that yesterday and caucus that wasn't going to be
and you probably heard about that by now. Now. Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer already knew that this was going to get shot down. It was shut down fifty one to forty nine. But they said this was largely symbolic, and he wanted to make sure that as the American people are watching, the public will not forget which side of the vote senators fall on today. Here's what he
said on the Senate floor. Before the day is over, every member of this body will make a choice vote to protect the fundamental rights of women across the country, or stand with five conservative justices ready to destroy these rights. In one felled Swoop. For half a century, Roe v. Wade has been the bedrock upon which women have secured the freedom to make their own decisions when it comes to their bodies. A decision, if enacted, will go down
as one of the worst court decisions ever. Republicans do what I expected him to do. But my question is how come Democrats aren't doing what they are supposed to be doing. One man, one person, and has been consistent in blocking Biden's whole agenda, and now he won't even vote to protect abortion rights after claiming he supports abortion rights. Like if Democrats had a party line vote and all of them voted the same way, the tiebreaking vote would
always go to VP Kamala Harris. Anytime there's a fifty fifty tie to Senate, it goes to the vps. All all they have to do is what Republicans always do and vote the party line. I thought they needed sixty votes for this to pass in and sixty forty for this is fifty fifty in the Senate. John Lewis voting Rights at Freedom to Vote at, Abortion Rights Act, Build Back Better George Floyd Policing Act. How many things is
President Mansion gonna shoot down all right now. To protect the right to choose, voters need to elect more pro choice senators this November and return a pro choice majority to the House. Joe Biden was tweeting about that, and he said the protections that the Women's Health Protecting Act would ensure our essentier to the health, safety, and progress of our nation. While it did not pass today, my administration will not stop fighting to protect access to women's
reproductive care. I just wish that Democrats would start calling out Joe Manchin. You know, we've been saying that for I know, I know that's what they got upset with me when I asked fight Bresident to come here. Who's the real president of this country? But it's like when they don't call out Mansion, it makes me feel like they're all complicit. And if they're all complicit, guests, what's gonna happen. Voters gonna hit the Democrats with DRICO come
mid terms. Okay, Joe Manchin is the leader. He's gonna get them all conspiracy charges. They're all going down because of him, My goodness. All right, Well, that is your front page news, all right now. When we come back, Kevin O'Leary will be joining us. You know him from Shark Tank, mister wonderful. So we'll talk to him when we come back, So don't move. It's to Breakfast Club. Good morning the Breakfast Club. Warning, everybody is DJ Envy
angela ye, Charlemagne the guy. We all to Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. We have Kevin O'Leary. A mister mister wonderful, Good morning, warning, Thank you. How are you feeling? You came up with your old camera set up his own setup. You came prepared. I don't mess around man. Now do you own any of these products? I just these are all Apple, I own the stock. You're very popular man. All day long, people have been saying, mister Wonderful's coming up hills right. I
appreciate that there's truth in advertising. So let's talk about Shalk Tank. And now you've been in shok Tank for how long now? Fourteen seasons. We're all amazed by what has turned into. It's fantastic. Do you still love it? And does it allow you to do your real job all the other other things that you have to do? Well, let's turned into my real job. I mean we've been investing in companies now you know dozens of them, if not, you know, fifty sixty seventy each, and some of them
have been wildly successful. I mean, it is the American dream. That's what happens when you get a hit. And here's what I've learned. You don't know what's gonna work. You may think you do, but each season, the deals that I think are real dogs end up being huge hits, and vice versa. You just don't know. So you need a portfolio. You need to do you know, ten twelve deals, hoping two or three really work out paid for the mistake.
That's all you can hope to do, right. I mean, it's all a gamble at the end of the day. It is. It is, And it's remarkable to see you, particularly during the pandemic, how these entrepreneurs pivoted, how they just had to chuck and jive to stay alive. I mean it was really hard because they lost their retail distribution. And most of these companies are consumer goods and services, so if they don't have any distribution, they go to zero.
And they figured out how to sell direct. They did, you know something remarkable, They built businesses direct consumer all around the world, and they started giving up retail because when you sell direct, your margins are much higher and you get all that information about your customer. Nike did the same thing during the pandemic. They went to sixty percent direct consumer around the world, so did the Shark Tank companies. You know what I wondered about people who
startain entrepreneurs during COVID. Certain people created COVID friendly businesses, things that work during the pandemic. But with those good long term things to investment, you know, that's a great question. What we've found out is that people believe in more than just profit today. If there's a mission behind your business, if it's doing something great, if it's you know, providing for its community, you tend to get a very sticky customer. And if you're selling direct to them and you can
communicate that mission, it outlasts just the pandemic. They feel like they're part of that community and they stay with you. That's what we learned, and so it's not just about making money anymore. That's okay. Profits are still cool, but that's how you stay in business and you hire people. But people want more. They want more, like a company like blue Land. It took out the plastic waste of cleaning fluids. There's no bottle anymore, it's just a tablet.
And people really got into that during the pandemic because they couldn't buy this stuff. You remember, for a while they'd shut down even Walmart. So if you need a cleaning fluids you got it direct from blue Land. Now they're selling fifty sixty million a year direct to consumers that are into the mission of cleaning up the oceans.
So one that you guys did there was a ring Light because obviously people even after the pandemic, ring legs got so popular during but now I feel like people that are never going to that musings and something that's right, and that ring Light company made one with a little star in your eye reflecting in your eye, and I have that thing back. It's so cool. You stick in front of you and when you're doing yourselfies, there's two
stars in your eyes. Cool idea, right. I was gonna ask what was the most successful company you invested in in Chulton in the history of the show. The biggest exit It was one called Plated that was bought by Albertson's for three hundred and forty million dollars. That was my deal, and there's about to be another one. It'll get announced the next few weeks. It'll be the second largest, also my deal. So I'm getting very lucky with these things because and again they're ones that I never thought.
I mean, this one that's about to happen, I'd love to tell you about it today, but I can't because it's it's a public company that's buying it. Was the stupidest thing I've ever seen. I mean, I couldn't believe what it was. And I did it because I thought it was great TV. But it turned into a monster business, a huge business, and bingo, it's being acquired and that woman is going to be very, very wealthy now, he said, the one you bought for three what did you want?
Million million? We can get in on this. If you remember, there was a time when meal kits people would ship and uncooked meal to your door and then you'd cook the food proportion. That got really big, and that was one of the biggest companies played it was bob Ba Albertson because they wanted a digital version to what they did in a grocery store. And that was a huge deal and that's when we began to realize that Shark Tank.
The real secret sauce of Shark Tank and why it works year in, year out, is the number one reason companies go out of business in America is they can never get their customer acquisition costs below the lifetime value a fancy way of saying, they advertise themselves into bankruptcy and they can't acquire customers. Now, with Shark Tank, you get one hundred million eyeballs to syndication. So if you even have a mediocre product, you're kicking it when you're
on Shark Tank. But you gotta get a deal. Everybody thinks you can come on and not close a deal. Then you don't get updates, you don't get the benefit long term, you never show up again. And I think that's kind of what people have figured out about it. If they can get on Shark Tank and get into syndication,
they're going to be out there forever. Now when they come on Shark Tank, let's say they don't get a deal the Shark Tank or do you guys still get some type of percentage if they do so, because I mean you guys are still advertising them on the ship. Yeah, very shrewd question. There was a time when that was happening, but in season three we killed that because it stopped good companies from coming on board. They weren't guaranteed a deal.
Why are they giving up equity? And so in season four we change that policy, and that's when we started getting real companies with real shareholders, with real venture capitals. And now we get all kinds of deals, and the deal sizes are huge. They're millions of dollars now. Used to be fifty grand here, one hundred thousand there, Now
it's two, three, four, five million bucks. Do you have any regrets when you look back at maybe talking to a business owner and being really harsh with them, because sometimes people are so passionate about their businesses, and then you can look back and say, damn, maybe I shouldn't have said it that way, said you're the mean guy. No, I just tell the truth. And if you can't handle the truth, the real world's gonna bite your hignee anymore.
Sometimes it's wrong, right, Nope, Look, you know the point is, I just tell it the way I see it, and I think that is important. I think it's very disingenuous. And I say this to Barbara all the time, and Laurie, you're not going to give these people to die. I mean, you're telling them to go on and keep doing what they're doing when you know they're going to zero. So it's why are you doing that? Why don't you tell them the truth? Your idea sucks, it's going to zero.
You're going to go bankrupt unless you stop, go do something else. But like the girls from their Lip barb On, they're from Detroit and they were on the show and their business has been pretty successful and they're doing well. They're in target there and all these stories. Yeah, they rubbed that in my face even all the time. Ye Detroit, it says, mister wonderful's wrong. Yeah, And I just saw
those because they had their ten year anniversary. But that's what I'm saying, Like, Look, I'm I'm proud of them for taking the heat. I'm proud that they're entrepreneurs. Is successful. It's a wonderful thing to see that happen. But they were facing an almost impossible task because going into the cosmetics industry is so difficult to get market share, but they pulled it off. So look, you got you gotta
applaud them. There's no question about it. But that is a tough space because the margins are so high that the competition is brutal. It's just brutal, all right. We have more with mister wonderful ak Kevin o'learry from Shark Tank. So don't move. It's the Breakfast Club, Good morning morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela yee. Charlemagne, the guy we are the Breakfast Club was still kicking in with mister ol' larry,
Kevin o'learry, mister wonderful from Shark Tank. What are your thoughts on the fact that interest rates a shooting to the roof right now, as as margats raids, car loans and bank loans right now. And inflation, how does that affect what's going on in the next couple of years. Well, the two biggest moves and inflation are self inflicted wounds. One is energy costs four five six dollars gallon of oil of gas. We did that to ourselves. We shut down all the production. That was not smart. I think
we figured that out. We're gonna have to solve for that real fast, because you know, you're looking at the mid term elections. This is a political issue. Now. In addition to that, food prices, so protein like chicken or you know, fish or any of that, they're up thirty forty fifty percent. That's because supply chain is broken. We can't get stuff from one port to another. Even now, it's still broken, and so half of this stuff will
be tempered as the economy gets back in. I think half the inflation is kind of permanent, but half is supply chain. So I think things are going to be okay. I think inflation in the back end of the year will probably settle back down from eight percent down to maybe five, which would be good. The Fed's going to raise another fifty basis points twice at least, so we're going to get up to three four percent real cost
of money and it'll balance itself out. I don't see a disaster coming because this cycle we are in full employment. We have everybody working. You can't you try and hire somebody right here in New York at a restaurant, forget about it. You can't get anybody to work because they don't want to or they already have a job. So you know, we're in a funky place right now, and you have well, you got a startup investing platform that allows people to become sharks and they can invest in
new and upcoming companies. Right start Engine, Yeah, this is something that came out of the Jobs Act years ago. The government wisely decided, why is it that only really rich people can be involved in venture startups? Like the guys that first invested in Google or in Apple you know, or in Microsoft? They were traditional venture firms. Why can't we democratize this? And so what they created was an opportunity to do equity crowdfunding and start Engine is the
biggest of that. So the way this works is you're a company, you're a startup, maybe you're an underserved community, right, and you want access to capital. You tell your story on a startup platform like start Engine, and hundreds of thousands of investors can make an investment in a two hundred bucks to under bucks, a thousand bucks, whatever they want. They become founding shareholders beside you, and it's done in
a really democratic way. There's no preference share. Of the trouble with venture capital is you want to raise three million bucks, they say, okay, we have to be special shareholders. We get our money back first. We have a preference share we have control over you in ways that no one else has. That sucks. I don't understand why anybody do that to themselves. And look, I've been involved venture capital my whole life and I know how the game works. But bottom line is, this is a new way to
actually raise capital. Now it got better just a few months ago when the government said okay. Used to be the maximum you could raise was one million, seventy thousand dollars. Now you can raise up to five million dollars. And that's very competitive to what to traditional hedge funds do, private equity funds do venture funds. So now start Engine, which is basically, look, I'm going to be disclosed to I'm a paid spokesperson, but I'm also a shareholder in it.
This thing works. I put my Shark Time companies on this. So if they want to raise dough, they go out there and say, look, I'm going to raise two or three or four million dollars and you can have a piece of it right beside me. That matters a lot because you're going to be just like me. We're all equal on this journey together. And start Engine itself, the Engine platform itself is raising its own money on its own. Start Engine, So if you want to be an investor
in the platform itself. They're raising around right now another forty million dollars on their platform. We've got people come up in and you know, trying to crowdfund with start Engine. Yeah, yeah, like a fan base, didn't it? But you can? You can. You already have customers. If you're selling a product or service and you've got let's say ten thousand customers or even a thousand customers, you can go to them and say, look, I know you're using my product or service. How would
you like to be a shareholder beside me? And you're going to find some large percentage say hey, I'm happy to do that. And frankly, they have a very long term view. Instead of saying, oh, I'm in a fund that I have to get liquid in three years or five years, they may stay with it their whole lives. The guy that started this, Howard Marks, came out of Activision. He was one of the co founders of Activision. He
gets the joke. He's been doing this a long time and so he knows that startups and when you invest in startups, you n diversification. I talked earlier about how you don't want to be too concentrate on anyone deal. If you're investing in start Engine, I recommend you buy seven or eight deals, build a portfolio because you don't
know what's gonna work. Do you have to give up equity when you if you're on here and you're raising money from start Engine, Yeah, of course you're selling shares to shareholders and you but you, as the founder, set the price and you discermine what the market wants to do. You tell your shareholders, luck, I'm going to do another round. I'm going to raise another three million bucks. But at least it's in a way that's very democratic and very diverse,
and you get a lot of shareholders. Instead of having one VC shareholder those thirty percent of your company, you get three thousand people. So they're like, that's why they call it equity crowdfunding. You've got a real herd of people that care about your brand. I was going to ask you, know, you talk about in this music industry that everybody's a workoholic. Right, they work hard, they outwork everybody. But you don't necessarily believe or hire workoholics. No, No,
I don't hire workoholics. I'll tell you why. If you look at you know, product ativity. In other words, great managers, great investors, great entrepreneurs, You're going to find a common trait and I'll tell you what it is. And I've
seen this happen over and over again. Ask that man or woman you know what they do with their spare time if they have it, and you're going to find out it's something in the arts, or it's something in sports, or it's something there's nothing to do with business, because you need the balance in your brain of the you know, the ying and the yangs, I call it between the chaos of the arts and the discipline of business, which is very binary. You either you make money you lose it.
And I found the greatest managers for me are ex dancers or artists, or archers or you know, soccer players, or where they have some discipline in their life that they really struggled with early on. When you start dancing at four years old and you're still dancing when you're thirty two, that's a big deal. You're going in every day and it's in your head and that makes you very very effective. And that's what I find. So I'm
always asking people you know, what else do you do? Like, you sound great on paper, but tell me about yourself. If they're great guitarist or a violinist or a painter. That makes me very interested because all of the people I work with have some other discipline that they're very good with, and my team is really efficient that way. They still get their job done, but they pursue other things that kind of gives them more productivity in their brains.
That's what I think, and it's it's look, I'm just doing what works for me and the other thing that's happened to me over these fourteen years on Shark Tank, the majority of my returns have come from companies run by women. So that's why I tend to invest in women entrepreneurs, because they're very good at me to getting risk. You know that old added you want something done, give it to a busy mother. That's true in business and the discipline as you talk of. I think that's why
they're so successful as well. But can you could you expand on that? Because I love that jewel that you just gave. You said, the chaos of the arts. Yeah, and they think about writing a song. You know, some of the greatest hits ever written. I was listening to this documentary about the Bags, one of the most successful
bands in history. There's only one brother left. But he was talking about one day they were on their way to their their recording studio in Miami, and this is the time when they were doing Saturday Night Fever, which ended up being one of the biggest albums ever. And there's that you know, there's a there's a there's a track that has sort of a really funky riff in it.
And the reason it happened was the tires were going over the Miami Causeway between metal grade and concrete, metal grade and concrete, so it started to get in a groove and Barry was listening to it and he was, you know, just because it was just going over and over and over. And he walked into the studio and said to the drummer, I got this thing in my head. I just got out of the limo. Make this sound for me. And that turned into one of the greatest
hits they ever had. Just chaos, right just in a limo listening to the great on the wheel, the rubber wheel. That's the kind of thing that gives you productivity and business. Same thing something hits your head came out of the arts and you apply that. Maybe your coding, maybe you're doing something else. I think I'm a big believer in that. All Right, we have more with mister wonderful a Kevin O'Leary from Shark Tank. So don't move. It's to Breakfast
Club morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlemagne the guy we are the Breakfast Club. Were still kicking it with mister ol'learry Kevin o'learry, mister wonderful from Shark Tank. Ye, now Shark Tank. How often do you invest in somebody who maybe their vision isn't quite there, but you like their personality. Is that something that you would do or is it strictly business? Maybe you feel like they're charismatic. It could go somewhere. You can see them being a
good spokesperson for something. You see the potential. Yeah, listen, I think it's all about the jockey, because if you think about particular this last two years, if you didn't know how to pivot, you went out of business. So you have to look at that entrepreneur knowing their business plan is full of they have no ideas and they just don't know, I've never seen a business plan that didn't look terrific. Right, everything's going up to the right.
Everybody's numbers are going to go through the roof. But that's not how it works. It happens, and you have to be able to deal with it. And that's why you need the arts. You know, you need some other aspects, some other place you can go in your head to solve these problems and figure out what is the path of least resistance of success. Because right now we're in a bear market and a lot of companies used to have access to cheap capital don't have that anymore. Now
they got to pivot. This is where they're really going to get tested, and I think that's important. It happens every seven eight years now. You sharks get tested with each other sometimes when you guys are actually like one of the shark Tan contestants that come up there. So what is something that you missed that on that you still kick yourself out about to this day. Well it's ring. Everybody knows this to him and we're friends now. But I offered I offered him the six hundred thousand, but
he wouldn't take it. I put it out his debt. I was the only shark that believed in him. I would have made about four hundred million on that deal. Goodness grace. So that really sucks. But at the same time, he did the right thing for him, and that's okay, Jamie. Pretty good guy and pretty good guys. It was too much exit there, too much equity, was that what it know? The problem was he was burning through so much cash that I knew he'd have to keep raising money and
I get deluded. So what I said to him was, look, give me two hundred percent warrants. That's that's just my little, you know, a little kiss, and I'll give you six hundred thousand in debt for three years at seven percent, which I thought was a reasonable offer. He said, I don't want any debt. I said, well, it's my six hundred thousand. Like you know, I'll take a little bit
of equity and you can go raise more. I know I'll get deluded, but at least I got my six hundred thousand back plus seven percent, which I thought was very reasonable. He didn't take the deal, but it would have been a great deal for me, and it would have been a good deal for him. But it doesn't matter at this point. That's water under the bridge. I thought Barbara was on this show before the pandemic, but didn't she come. You know how she got here. I bought her a new broom. The two of you go
at it. Yeah, but you guys love each other behind the scenes. We do. Actually, she's we're both were both cooks, and she's a very good cook. Actually, and we often, you know, have dinner at her Apartment's fantastic. We've been doing this together for fourteen years. I mean that's a really long time, so all of us, you know, and we're very proud of what we've built. And it's an iconic platform in America, and it creates millionaires and billionaires
hopefully one day. And it helps us watching if we ever need to pitch something, because I watched, I think all the time for when I have to do my pitches, to know what to do and what not to do. Yeah, you know, there is something I would tell you that I've learned over these years. And it may sound crazy, but it's true. I'm sitting right in front of them when they walk out on the carpet, and what you don't know about the show is that when they step
out the floor. Director says, okay, stand right there because they need a jib shot and they need the seticamp to come over and get a shot of their product with the team standing there, and that takes about two and a half minutes to get it right. They'll keep shooting until they get it right, but they just have to stand there and can say nothing. I do this thing where I just look at them. I don't blink,
I don't smile. I just look at them and I watch their language, and I can tell after about ninety seconds winner loser. The ability to present yourself physically without speaking a word, your presence, your aura is a big deal. It's a big deal because you only walk into a room and meet new people once and they're looking at you, you're looking at them, and it's how you deal with that nervousness, that nervous energy. And I keep doing this.
I mean, maybe it's mean to me. I don't think so, though, because I can tell the ones that push back, that have the guts to take the heat, because now there's twenty six cameras on them, the lights around. They've been practicing in front of a mirror for two months, but
now it's the real deal. And they're in there, and the cameras are about to roll and you can see them sweating bullets there because even the ones that think they had it nailed are dealing with the reality of being in front of billions of dollars, an opportunity of a lifetime. The world's going to meet them. Some of them don't make it. Some of them pass right out. You don't see that, but there, oh yeah, they just how many have passed out? We had a couple really, yeah,
you know how it had. You know that phenomenon when you're in a drum crew, a drumming on the football field, If you lock your knees from more in two minutes, you're want to pass out. That's what happened. There was a guy who was six foot four in front of me and I could start to see him days and knows dive right into the kron concrete like unbelievable. And we had we had to shut that set down. We had to get the medicine there. He was okay, he
was okay, no problem, but wow, hey, stuff happens. How'd you get the name is the Wonderful? That's very Wwe yeah, we think and we haven't found the tape that it might have been Barbara back in season one when I made some aggressive deal to somebody and you know, she didn't like it, and she said, well, isn't that just wonderful? And I said, yeah, it is a wonderful deal, and it just kind of stuck. And or it could have happened before then. We're not sure. It might have been
in a previous show. I don't know, but it's sort of It's amazing because a lot of people don't know my name anymore. They just call you mister wonderful. Like I'll walk in and get picked up a limo at Lax and there's a science saying mister wonderful, and I say that guy, do you know my name is? There's no idea, but you are mister wonderful, aren't you. Choice. Yeah, it's kind of weird. Do you prefer being a solo investor or do you like when you guys team up?
Much prefer solo. I like to control the deal. But sometimes it's a really hot deal, you're gonna have to go in with other sharks if you want a piece of it. And then the teams we've been working together, we have our own analysts and everything else, and they work out the deal and do diligence and we paper it up. But you know, I can do the whole thing. Is My job for these investors is to get their story out there. So you know, I've got a huge
social media team. I got millions of followers when I get into a product because I believe in it and I use it. You know, something like banana Loca. I don't know if you saw that deal where you with the peel still auto banana, you can actually fill it with peanut butter, which kids love because they take it in there, you know, lunch box, and they open they say, look this this this banana grew up with peanut butter in it, and they just peel it off and it's
already full of peanut butter, jelly, whatever it is. That looked like a really stupid product to me when I saw it, But boy is that thing selling like it's It's fantastic. Now I'm in that deal with Cuban. We both liked it, so I had to put put it together. And that's good that we do a lot of stuff together, all right, Well, Kevin o' ladies, mister wonderful that's tell them the start Engine the site. So people want to go to the site and possibly pitch their business there. Yeah,
I highly recommend at checking outstart engine dot com. Just the thing to do there is simply go to the website and look at all the deals, see how others are presenting themselves, even underserved communities. Everybody can raise money on there. It's not it's not an exclusive thing for just you know, venture capitalists. It's anybody that wants to raise capital for any business, has any idea, and that's
how it should be. That's how you democratize investing. But you get the reason you care about the platform is it has the one thing you need. It's got investors, hundreds of thousands of them every day combing looking for another deal. Most of the guys and women are investing on their no that they want seven or eight deals, so they're looking for the next deal. Oh I like that idea. I like that idea, Like that idea. I'm going to put a little bit of that into my portfolio.
And they hold these portfolios on start Engine. I can't listen. I'm a big believer in it, and it's growing and if you want to invest in Start Engine itself. You can do it now because they're raising another round so you can invest in the mother engine itself, which I think is a great investment, and said out to Done Dixon from Popcoms. She's on there too. She's been on the show before a couple of times. Yeah, and she's on Start Engine. I'm actually doing some stuff with her,
with her vending machines Start Engine. In the last I'd say, you know, eighteen months has really taken off, and primarily I think it's because it went to the five million dollar limit, because all of a sudden, everybody realized, whoa, this is real. We appreciate you for joining us. Kevin o'learry ladies in general than this club. Good morning, She's filling the team. This is the rule of report with
Angela Yee on the Breakfast Club. But Forbes has put out there a list of the highest paid athletes of twenty twenty two. I feel like they do this every month. It's every year, all right, So now, who do you think is number one on that list? Soccer player? Definitely some type of soccer player. Kristinaldo Ronaldo. I don't know. Riciana Ronaldo's number three, OK, Lebron's number two the way that sounds right, and number one is Lionel Messi. So
those are the Times soccer player. Yeah yeah, but who's right? Yeah, absolutely, Kevin Durant made the list. Steph Curry. Canelo Alvarez, by the way, is number eight on the list with ninety millions. It's Tom Brady's Tom Brady anyway, he's number nine, and then Jannis is number ten on that list. All right, so those are the highest paid athletes now. Naomi Osaka she is leaving her agency I MG and she's launching
her own sports agency. Her contract expired at the end of last year, and she did explore the possibility of renewing her contract, but then she decided she was going to go her own way. She said, I spent my career doing things my way, even when people told me that it wasn't what was expected or traditional. Evolved. That's the name of her agency. Is the natural next step in my journey as both an athlete and businesswoman, as well as a way to continue being myself and doing
things my way. So congratulations to her, you know. According to Sportico's twenty twenty two list of the world's highest paid athletes with prize money and endorsements. She's number twenty on the list, so she's worth fifty three point two million dollars and that's from her prize money and endorsements, and she has equity and approximately twelve brands. And she also founded Kinlow, which is her own skincare company, her
own swimwear and sleeper lines as well. All right, Alfonso Ribero, he was on Jimmy Kimme Alive, and he was talking about a lot of different things, including people asking him to do the Carlton dance. You know when he did. It's not unusual. Here's what he You have to say, don't worry. I'm not gonna ask you to do the dance or any of that stuff. Thank god, thank god. You must want to kill people when they ask you to do that, right, And you know, I won't say kill,
but I you know, I don't. I don't have a love for it like they do, you know. I mean I typically get asked to do the dance pretty much every day of my life. If I go outside for real, yeah, if I go anywhere, it's like, you know, I just randomly hear people do the dance, and you're like, I'm not dancing for you. I'm a black guy. I'm not dancing for you. The weird part for me is trying
to understand what's happening in their head. Yeah, right, Like what makes you think that you're just gonna ask a random person to dance for you and they're gonna be like, oh my god, I've been waiting for the ass. I couldn't imagine. He's not a random person. If I see him, I would ask him Apache dance, though I think I might have liked that one. I would definitely ye wouldn't have me do it, and I feel like I've seen
you do the Apache dance. But yeah, absolutely, But I would ask him beause I wo trying to do with him. I like fus, but now you know, don't do it. And to answer this question, he's not a random person. He's out fans overbel and the age of social media. Yes, you do want to see Carton and take the video with him so you can put it on your usual to be I don't know what the hell you doing you. I can't do that dance, That's all I was ask
him to do it. You can do it. I don't even know what the hell, you was trying to do, just trying to do the out whatever dance, the Carlton dance, the Carlton dance. Okay, it's not his real name, it's this character. Yes, I forget. He was a tap dance kid, right, so he's a tap dancers and white people really do need to be caut She said, were walking up with no black man asking me to dance. No, all right,
ride a wave. According to the Tampa Bay Times, they reported that he's accused of choking his ex girlfriend on April twenty fourth, while their two children were in the home. The unidentified victim had to scratch located near the left center of her neck. She told police she had been asleep in her bed when he walked in and talked her until she couldn't breathe. She said she dated Roadway
for four years. They have two children together, and that he attacked her after accusing her of talking to other men. The couple's two children were in their own bedroom when the alleged incident occurred. A rep for Roadway declined to comment on the situation when Complex reached out to them. All right now, ghost face killer, he has his own day in New York City. He was awarded a proclamation by Mayor Eric Adams during a ribbon cutting ceremony for
his Killer coffee shop. He has his own coffee shop in Staten Island, and they did thank him for his contributions to music. To congratulations to ghost Face for having his own coffee shop. You know, I love to see that droveing a club for Ghostface Killer and also getting his own day. So now May ninth is officially ghost Face Killer Day. Okay, I'd love to see it. All right. Well I'm Angela Yee and that is your rumor report. All right, thank you, miss Ye. Now, Charlomage, who are
giving that? Don't get you? You know, four after the hour. Man, let's have a conversation about karma. We all have various definitions of karma. Um, this story that I have, I think it's a good I think it's a good example for all of our definitions. We'll talk about it, all right, we'll get to that next. It's the breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same. Angela year here from my friends at the General Insurance.
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named Joseph McK in. Okay, salute to South Carolina. You know that's the crib that's home, not before when here going? Before we go any further, it's very important to note that Joseph McKinnon is deceased. Okay, he's dead. I can't believe you're given a deceased man donkey today, Charlemagne. Well, it's a teachable moment, okay. And for the past week there's been a lot of discussions about a deceased man
and that man was named Kevin Samuels. I didn't watch Kevin Samuel's videos of actually only seeing one in my life, and that's when he was asking some man if he had a big penis. Okay, I know he was polarizing, but anyone who gives the opinion for a living usually is, but that's not what we're here to discuss. This morning, there was a conversation about whether or not Kevin Samuel's death was karma. I saw people saying, Oh, it's karma.
He got what he deserved for talking about black women in this way, and it made me realize that folks don't really know what karma is. The Dictionary defines karma as the sum of a person's actions. Okay, in this in previous states of existence, beaut is deciding their fate in future existences and informal and an informal definition, and it's destiny our fate, okay, following as effect from cause. Personally, I believe that karma is simply action. Okay. I do
believe that karma is causing effect. There are actions, and then there are consequences to those actions. I don't believe karma is out of our control. I don't believe karma is indirect. For example, let's say I help an old lady across the street. That doesn't mean I'm gonna end up randomly finding a bag of money, you know, later on in life because I did that. You know, good deed? All right, I like what the Buddhists say, and that is karma is an action, not a result. All Right,
the future is not set in stone. You can change the course of your life right now by changing your intentional acts in self destructive patterns. If you've been listening to me, then you know I'm in therapy. You know I'm big on investing in your mental wealth, but not just mental health, your spiritual well being. Okay, spiritual development is very important to me. It's one of the core foundations of my personal development in Karma plays a key role in that. But karma is not what y'all think
it is. Okay, if you do something negative, that doesn't mean that something negative has to happen to you. If that's the case, then why the bad things happen to good people? Only good things should happen to good people, right. I believe that karma is based on your actions and thoughts in every single moment. Now, Kevin Samuel's his death might have been karma, Okay, but it was karma probably based on whatever he was doing in that moment. They said he died from cardiac arrest. I told you all.
Heart disease is the number one killer of black people. What causes cardiac arrest when a diseased heart selectrical system malfunctions. What causes heart disease? Well, a lot of lifestyle choices, all right, Diet, smoking, not exercising, a lot of things lead the high blood pressure, high cholesterols. So when you say a man, you know, saying things you don't agree with about another person led them to have a heart attack. And that's karma. No, karma is action, not faith. It's
an action, not a result. That's what the word karma means. Action, okay, not fate. In Buddhism, karma is an energy created by willful action through thoughts words. In these we are all creating karma every minute, okay. In the karma we creates affects us every minute. You're smoking a cigarette right now, you're waking up eating something you know your doctor told you not to eat. Hell, you're waking up and haven't
been to the doctor in years. Those are your actions and you will have to deal with the consequences of those actions later in life. All right, that's the karma you're creating for yourself. Now, I'm saying all that to say in terms of someone dying because of karma. Today's donkey is a great example. It's a great example of whatever you might think karma is. I started this off by telling you that Joseph McKinnon is dead, and guess what,
he suffered a heart attack. See, here you go, Uncle Charlotte, Here you go, brother Lynard. Contradicting yourself per usual, you said a heart attack couldn't be karma. That's not what I said. I said. I believe it's the karma you create for yourself. But if I wanted to point to a situation that could be considered karma by my standards being an action and social media standards, oh, this would be the example. Let's go to the people dot com
for the report. Police. A South Carolina man who allegedly killed his girlfriend died of a heart attack while bearing her in their yard, according to reports from local Fox affiliate WHNS. The Edgeviill County Sheriff's office says they believe sixty year old Joseph McKennon strangled his girlfriend, sixty five year old Patricia Dent, inside their home on Saturday, but deputies were called to the residence after reports of an unresponsive mail lying in his yard and arrived to find
mckennon's body. According to WHNS, medical personnel were unable to revive him. Sheriff Jody Rowland says while on the premises, authorities found a freshly dug hole and a second body, that of Dent inside it. Investigators believe McKennon attacked Dent and their shared home, then bound her and wrapped her in trash bags before putting her in the pit. An autopsy confirmed she died by strangulation, while Deputy say mckennon's death occurred after he had a cardiac event while covering
the pit. Now, this is the example of karmen that proves all our definitions are karma correct. Okay, I believe karmen is action. So he killed this woman, then tried to bury the woman in the backyard and had a
heart attack and died while digging the grave. If your old ass wasn't doing such screenuous activities and strangling women and then trying to dig a grave to bury her in it, you'd be alive today, maybe, okay, And no telling you know how he'd been how he had been living, all right, you might have been smoking drugs, alcohol, bad eating, no physical activity, and then all of a sudden, you think you're gonna go out in the backyard and dig
a grave after murder or someone. I've never murdered someone, but I would think scrangling someone with your bare hands and killing them takes a lot out of you, all right. And if you want to look at karma as hey, you do something bad and something bad happens to you, you write too with this situation. This situation is a great example of both definitions of karma. If you are like me and you think karma is a spiritual principle of cause and effect, were intending actions of an individual
influenced the future of that individual? This is it, all right? Nobody told him to scrangle that woman and then go dig a grave. You reap with your soul. But that's not all of it. Your actions and thoughts affect how you live your life, and they might affect how you die. In this situation, we definitely have a case. Please let me remind give Joseph McKinnon the biggest he huh he
ha he hah, you stupid mother, Are you dumb? Whatever you think is this situation absolutely could prove both of us right, both of those definitions right, all right, well up next ask Ye eight hundred five eight five one oh five one. If you need relationship advice or any type of advice, you can call Ye right now. It's the breakfast Club. Come morning, the breakfast Club. Come on, the relationship advice, the personal advice, just the real advice.
Haul up now for ask Ye morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela, Yee, Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. It is time for asking Ye. Hello. Who's this Hi? This is Nicole, Hey, Nicole, what's your question for yeasy? Um? So, the situation is I've been in a relationship for maybe like seventeen years. In just interess my relationship, he had like different sexual interests, and um, I thought, I'm want the doctor, doctor Natrix. I really I like control in the bedroom, and he
seemed like he was into it. I like to turn them out, but I don't really like when they're into it. So I've been noticing more and more where they are, Um he is like tooking his booty out or because it's like hanging and I kind of not interested in it no more. So I want to know how do I bring up the conversation with him without hurting his feelings or emasculating him because so wait, let me so the problem is that you're a dominatrix, right, but he's
enjoying it too much. I want to say, yeah, that is the problem. Okay, you want him, you want him to be like anymore. It's like, are you really now like interested in that or you know? Okay, so in the beginning he wasn't enjoying it, No, he was. I liked what to say, I'd like to to turn him out? So he was like he no, stay with that area. What you think? This is kind of like okay, so you mean with you know, like putting something in his Yeah, okay, all right, Well, first of all, you said the goal
is to turn someone out. It worked, yeah, it did, so now that you turned him out, your board. But the thing is we are like partners, and I don't know if this is going to mess up our actual relationship. Well as a dominatrix, maybe you need to find something else to do to him next to turn him out one. I mean, okay, look, what other things do you do as a dominatrix in this relationship? Because I guess the
dynamic now is messed up? Right, as a dominatrix. He's supposed to be like, no, I don't want that, don't like that. He's resistant, But now he's like, yes, bring it, do it to me, peg me yes, and that I noticed that boy before, I'm ready to actually take it. And I'm like, right now, this is now, this feels like something we both enjoy and it wasn't supposed to
be like that. So are there are? There are the things that you do to him and in that situation, that relationship to uh, you know, maybe there's something else you could do where you're stepping on him with the high heels, maybe a little light whipping anything like that. Yeah, we we do little role plays of you know, I want to say sleeves and or patient. We do like
a little role plays. But like I said, it's just more of now like if we regularly doing regular sect he's ready to out Okay, but if he used a bigger deal though, why are we doing this? Is so wrong? Why is it wrong? Men do not let women play in your butt unless they're willing to make a real commitment to you. Okay, yeah, I mean he gave you the button. Now all of it's too far. This is bad Okay, they're not married, right, Actually we are married.
What he gave you his butt and now you're saying it too much, you gonna like it and you know that. But the problem is that you did turn him out and got him to like something that he was resistant to at first, and now you don't like it anymore. So I mean, what can you do? It works some suggestions? If not? Like, I'm really like, I'm in a hard place because I don't want to say to him I don't want to do it anymore. And like I said, I'm the one that started. Yeah, but maybe you could
do it. Maybe you could do the opposite now right and torture him by not doing it. Oh man, what you don't do to another man's but somebody else will. I mean, is it is it that you don't want to peg him in anymore at all? What if he acted like doesn't what if he acted like he doesn't like it? Now? Moving forward and you let him? Can I ask him to like with just a little bit more? Yeah, tell him like, tell him like, look, the dynamics of
what this was is not what it is now. And this is what I need you to do for me to feel turned on he might actually enjoy that too. That's not fair, mama. If he likes something and now all of a sudden, you're supposed to be a couple, You're supposed to enjoy each other. Well, she's not enjoying it, but he is right, but he might enjoy also doing the role playing of acting like this is his first time doing it. He didn't want to do it in the first play, why he broke down for her to
do it, and now what he actually likes it. If he wants it, he might have to play along. You know why a lot of men don't like but play because they feel like it makes him feel like less of a man, right, it makes him feel like a sucker. Right. So so now I've been vulnerable with you, you turn me out, and now you're telling me to stop backing like a bitch. Well, guess who turned me into one? How you feel? I'm just saying, anyway, have you communicated
any of this to him? Um? Flight, but not very direct saying you know, this is how I feel at the current moment. How can you make a change? Well? Be direct, You're a dominatrix. Be direct, okay, and tell him, Look, this ain't fun for me no more. Before it was a resistant situation. You ain't want it. Now you tuting
it up, dang daddy, make it wrong? What if I'm seeing it like in our regular helpful situation, Like it's like I have to take control of everything, and it's like, is that from the the way of our room action is? And now it's like I don't want to pull him bitching out because I don't want to downplay who needs to be far from a female dog. But like he's revery now soughtful. He's not taking control as I think
a man in the houseful. So okay, he might think this is what you want, and if you haven't communicated that you don't like it, he might think this is the dynamic that you wanted. Charlemagne did say something real true. What you don't do, somebody else will stop it. Guys, it's the truth. You turned them onto it, so he liked. Listen, you need to let him know that this is not working for you and this is not what your intention was, so he can take charge in certain situations. Again, this
is why men don't open up. Our hearts are all butts to people because the situations like this, all right, but the main thing is that you're not telling him what it is that you need. You gotta let him much. She wanted it at first, and he didn't want to do it at first, that he finally opened up and did it and got turned out, and you are doing that's all right, So listen talk to him. Okay, I'm so you got to work through this. You begged the playing my butt, and let you play in my butt.
Now you look at me like I'm soft. Let's just keep that. This is crazy, this is this is crazy. Okay, this is his number. We need to call him. No, stop it. This is topic humanity. I think I want to put him on the spot. Yeah, don't do it? All right? All right, this toxically we have no problem answering any question opened up for her. He finally he enjoys it now and now she's just gonna take it back.
I'll say, y'all can't get them in the communicate. We open up then, y'all tell us, y'all like what we say. You say we don't share our emotions. We open up our hearts, y'all break our hearts. Y'all say, y'all, we don't want like butt play. We open our butts now look to take it back. You guys have been two in to ask you these past covers is crazy yea, this is crazy. This is foul. He's toxic. We need to protest. As you get a cat, we get five five the Breakfast. I'm gonna keeps some real advice with
anel gets ask you morning. Everybody is DJ Envy and Angelie Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast. I don't know how you beat these last couple of calls you've been getting. You don't. I don't know, Like these calls are amazing. Hello, and we don't have no problem answering anything. Hey, good morning. What's your name? My name is k Hey, Kiki. I'm excited to hear what you got to talk about today, Kiki. What's going on in your life? Man, it's like coming
full circle talking to y'all again. COO, good morning. First, DJ N the Angelie, Lae, Uncle shar So. I had talked to you guys like two years ago. Um at the time I had just lost my son. Actually it'll be two years tomorrow that my son passed away. And at the time I was married and it was really an unsupportive marriage, just realized my husband was a narcissist, and so I took the advice that you guys gave, because you guys are pretty much telling me, like the
decision I need to make, and I did. I got divorced, I left Minnesota. I moved to Texas, and I've been really happy and in a peaceful place, did work on myself, had a therapist, all this things that I should do, you know, to help me heal from the death of my son and then the horse. So fast forwarding to now, I've finally got into the place where I feel like
I'm ready to date again. I made myself a profile on Bumble and I actually found somebody that was interested in But I'm rusty, you know, it's been a while and you kind of swore off me in and dating and all that kind of stuff. So I'm interested in this person, and I'm like, how do I, you know, not seem thirsty and you know, kind of put it out there that I'm interested in him without you know, I'm an alpha female. I get what I want, but I don't want to, you know, start a situation where
I want to be pursued, you know. So I'm just trying to figure out what do I do in that space? So he's on bumbo apparently to also date, right, Yeah, so that's what he's there for. That's what you're there for. And anytime you date somebody, it may or may not work out, but you should at least have a good time and enjoy yourself. And you might be thinking it and putting too much pressure on yourself. You know, I
understand that you're rusting. You haven't been out there in a while, and that's fine, honestly, Like he might love that about you, because you know, right now, I'm sure you are vulnerable. You probably have your guard up. You haven't done this in a while, So take your time and don't feel like you go on a date. And this has to be the be all, end all. You're putting yourself back out there, you're realizing what you like, you're realizing what you'll never do again. So just allow
yourself some time to go out. The goal should just be to have a good conversation and a good time and that's it, like, and then you don't have to worry about that until things progress or they don't. But the worst thing that could happen is it's not for you and he doesn't work out, and now you're back, you know, dating on bumble. But I feel like, don't wait, don't give up any options that you might have, you know, stay on there until you figure out what's going on
in this situation. You're putting yourself out there. He's there to date too, So you guys, you know, is he interested in you? Is he willing to go on a date? Yeah, we've been We've met each other twice. Okay, it's only been like since we met each other. And I like everything about him. I think he's fine. He's only forty three,
he's already retired. He's a bio microbiology and major air force you know, so he's had all the qualifications that like, you know, spark my interest, but I want him to lead, you know, at the same time. So I'm just like, you know, I get advice from co workers like girl, no, let him come to you, and then other people like you better to call him girl. This Houston its every you know, two to one here, this and that. So I'm like, Okay, what do I do? You know, do
what you feel like doing. If you feel like calling him, call him. If you feel like you're doing two and also, don't give up your other interests and things that you have going on. You still need to have a life. So while you may want to see him and do there's nothing wrong with you calling him. You guys have been communicating, You've been out two times. Does he call you also? It's it's like what I hear from maybe once a week or so, And that's cool, that's cool too.
But I'm like, okay, since I know inside, I'm like, I feel like he could be somebody I wouldn't mind like dating. Okay, well, why don't you can also make a plan. You can say, hey, I really want to go see this movie, or I really wanted to do this, or I want to try this restaurant. You know, you have any time this week to go, and you can just give him some indication because sometimes, you know, a lot of times of guys you gotta like really be
a little bit more proactive. Sometimes they might think I don't want to come on too strong. And now you're both playing games, right, And that's what somebody told me, And I'm like, okay, so I need to turn up the heat just the smith to let him know that I am interested. Yeah, and you're smart you'll know. If he's like, oh, I'm not available this week or next week, that means he's not really interested. But if you're like, hey, let's go try this restaurant and he's like, okay, what
about Thursday, then yes he's interested. Okay, cool, because that's what's been happening. Like I'll hit him up and he'd like, oh, let's go aheap. Do you know what I'm like. I don't want to be the league role though, you know us talking, but that's what's gonna help initiate it. And okay, I got it. Well you know what's You're in Houston right? I am Everyway's car show all right. Place to find a man will be the car show June nineteen, fall this day weekend in Houston. Why don't you bring him?
Ask him if he wants to go to the car show that it was a good idea too. Thank you y'all. And can I just give a shout out? So, so, I'm new here and I'm working on a venture since I left Minnesota. I'm trying to create affordable housing for people of color. So I'm gonna go to the mobile home investors in June and meet them there from Illinois. So I have an I G. I'm sweecy eighty on their Keana Carrington I Love Myself foundation named after my son.
And if anybody's interested in buying land and creating some affordable house and please hit me up. I'm moved into a different phase in my life from this go time and I'm excited about it. Let's go. Thank you guys, thank you my call, and thank you for the advice two years years ago. I like hearing everything you guys are doing, and I just I'm really grateful to have gotten through again. So thank you guys. Thank you so much. And I'll see you at the car show. And you
sound amazing. You sound like an amazing person. Oh I am angel. It just took me some time to realize. So no, that's right, all right, ask you eight on drink five A five one oh five one there we got rooms on the way, yes, sin. Since we're talking about dating, we'll tell you what famous actress says she went out with fifty people in one year and even had to have some FBI help on one of her dates. All right, we'll get into that. NeXT's the breakfast club.
Good morning, the breakfast Club, The Crazy show man, you it ain't me if I show you my text Texas is wow Miss Meeka on Instagram she just posted a poska you have to do the don't play gay bills getting through out of hand. Man, you got people running up on me in the street. I told the other other than Crown Heights, Brooklyn, it's a little young boy. He was a young boy. He goes Yo, Charlemagne, where to my dad? You give him sexy? My boy? What did you reply with? I didn't know what to say.
I didn't know if that was a threat. I didn't know what was happening. I didn't know what to say. The guy it does audio at my crib. He just texting me bigger deal though, Okay, okay, okay, what context with the contact? Didn't my homie one of my bomb is just texting me, just just texting out the blue peg me like this is he asking? You put me in that group? Chat Man. You gotta be clear when you talk about what's happening. If I want to be
text you Bob and your cable guy. You said, who do you say that the audio at the crib in the camera. Man put me in that group chat Man, tag me in man, go through your phone and see those messages. What what you know what? Let's get to Oh the God got well. Kendrick Lamar has revealed the cover artwork for his new album, Mister Morale and the Big Steppers. That album is coming out on Friday the thirteenth.
We all know we heard the song The Hard Part five with the music video that came along with it, and y'all saw the cover artwork with I guess he has a new child, a new baby too, so he has two kids and his wife in the picture with him. I can't wait. I mean, there's four albums I was really anticipating this year. One was Push Your t Um definitely Kendrick Lamar, and I'm anticipating Killing Mike's new project in The Queen Rhapsody. But I cannot wait to tomorrow.
I'm gonna stay up like it's a late playoff game, like a West Coast playoff game. Yes, so we cannot wait to hear this just out of nowhere. That's gonna be. I feel like the biggest album of here. If I'm late to work tomorrow, man, you damn business? Oh boy, Okay, I'm old all right. R Kelly, Chicago, child date has been set for August first, despite his lawyer's request for a three month extension. So that's when that will commence
and he is facing life. Just to FYI, so his lawyer was hoping that she would have additional time to prepare for the case, considering that she was hired relatively late to vindicate her client, but they did deny that request on Tuesday, they said that the case is three years underway has already faced endless delays, many of which were brought on by the pandemic. All Right, Rebel Wilson
from Pitts Perfect, You know Rebel Wilson. She appeared on The Up podcast and she talked about her dating life. Now right now, she's happily in a relationship, but she said in twenty nineteen that was her year of love and she went on dates with more than fifty people.
Then I think I went out with about fifty people like Matt one year, but it was more like some of them were just like one date and then you're like, oh no. But I deliberately wanted to push myself and died a whole bunch of people and to get that experience, which I know is in itself is not normal. But to me, it actually really helped me in finding like what I was liked and what I didn't like. And it was just like it was a fun thing. And I don't think anybody got hurt by it or anything.
It was just like and nobody else knew. Just me and my close friends knew. It's not like I told people anyone who asked me out on a date, I'll go out with them. It was more just like I secretly knew if anyone asked me, I'd do Yeah. I'm like, yes, okay, she said no to no one, No, yeah, nobody, all right.
In addition to that, she said that she went on d the whole spectrum of people that it was weird, like I did win on some dates with some billionaires and then also with like some people that had nothing Like it was a whole right, there was the full spectrum of people. That's kind of incredible. I feel like everyone should do that to figure out like what they're looking for, because sometimes you think you know what you're looking for and you actually don't. I think it's the
most normal thing in the world. You say it's not normal, I I agree with it. You're getting wraps yeah, I was like, because I really yeah, I just felt like, oh God, for a woman at my age, and at that point, I was like thirty nine, and I was like, you know, I really wanted a relationship, but I didn't know you, Like, I'd only had a few small relationships, and so I was like, I got to just get
more practice in dating. I think you should give everybody access to your energy like that though, because I feels like there's no boundaries whatsoever. You just go kick it with anybody. You know. Funny you say that because she even had to ask the FBI for help on one of her dates. Well, the last person I went out with on the app, I did get the FBI to like check them out, yeah, just to make sure like yeah they were that there was nothing and there was
actually something in their past. Come on, yeah, yeah it wasn't an assault charge. All right. Well I was wanting to say this wasting these people. Yeah, well that one person, she said she had them check it. But she is in a relationship. Now she actually met somebody through a friend. All right. Well that is your rumor report, all right. Now the People's Choice mixes next, get your request in eight hundred five eight five, one oh five one in Houston,
Age Town. I can't wait to see you guys, the nineteen Fathers that you're looking for something for your dad to do. You're in the area, come on down. We're gonna have a lot of time for a lot of fun for our car show June nineteenth. All right, Father's Day weekend, So get your requested this to Breakfast Club. Go morning. So Breakfast Club, your morning's will never be the same. If you're a true music club, you live
for that connection with your favorite music and artists. Now, thanks to one of and the NFT revolution, that connection is about to get much deeper. Learn more about one of the new green NFT platform built for the music community at one up dot Com, WWPR FM HD one New York and i Heeart Radio Station. Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy we are the Breakfast Club. Shout out to mister Wonderful for joining us this morning. Mister Wonderful, he's not a point star, he's
not a wrestler. He's from Shark Tank. Kevin O'Leary, Yeah you're not. I love Shark Tank. I watched that all the time and I'm at home and I'm like, what is it? A wast shark tank is always on. And also let me shout out to first and foremost Paramus Police and State Police out in Paramus. You guys are doing an amazing job out there. And also the forty seventh Preset here in the Bronx when we're telling that story. We're gonna tell that story tomorrow. We'll tell the story
one day, but not maybe one day. I gotta get one more guy, but okay, yeah, shout out to the forty seventh Preset. Appreciate what you guys are done in that bravery that you guys put in. I respect it and I appreciate you guys, all right. And also shout out to Nick Cannon. I'm gonna be on a Nick Cannon show today all right to definitely check it out and don't forget real life, real love. The book me and my wife wrote together is out right now. If you haven't got it, pick it up on Audible or
Nick Cannon cover. Nick Cannon and DJ Envy together. That's seventy two kids combined between the both of them. Okay, that's two NBA playoff teams together. Coaches include my goodness. All right, but check me on the show today. I bring everybody. It's DJ Envy and July Ye, Charlemagne the guy. We are the breakfast club. Now it's trying to get up out here in Charloman. You got a positive note, I do, man, and the positive note comes from one
of my favorite voices, man Nidra to while Glover. You know I love her book Set Boundaries, Fine Peace, and I just reposted this on my Instagram and I want to share it with the listeners. This morning, Nature said a little secret from a therapist. Toxic forgiveness is an unhealthy way that people pretend to be unharmed over it. Are forgetful of the offense? Forgiving to keep the peace? Are people pleasing? Is not healthy for your mental health
or your relationships. Take time to process your pain, slowly, rebuild trust, and decide if you need to show up differently in the relationship. Forgiving and forgetting is not a realistic approach to move forward. And she has an exercise to go with this. She says, repeat after me, It's okay then I'm not over things that hurt me and I don't need to pretend finish y'all done?
