Mike Africa Interview and more

or blessed. Eight hundred and five eight five one oh five one. We want to hear from you on the breakfast club. Hello. Who's this? Good morning to morning Xavier, Good morning, Get off feat chests, bro um. Actually, I want to uh start with some positivity going on. Shout out my picter and brother in law. They're actually starting an all business called Teacher Loved Bob. They actually called and got through these guys fucking weeks ago. I want to give it a shot again and let everybody go

get on there and check it out. I want to just frest the love to the teachers. Will do my brother, I always am a fan of spending love to teachers. Man. That is one of the most important jobs, that's the most underpaid. Yeah. My mother is a teacher, English teacher, South Carolina man, thirty plus years. Hey, you want to get her a box man? Yeah? One, give me the website again that that actually would be a good idea.

What's the website again, teacher love box Official. And that's on Instagram that you can get right to the right to the website. I'm an order one today, my brother teacher love box official. Yes, sir, yes, sir. Hey Charlton telling me one of your books. If you got any back in yet, Well I don't, but I'll send you a copy of Tamika Mallory's State of Emergency how to Win in the Country We built. Oh yeah, yeah, I'll try. He can't we all? My brother? Can't we all? All? Right?

Hold hold on so I can get your address? Yes, Hello, who's is? This is? J empty? No? Man? What up? Man? Get off your chests were mourning? No, you're morning, doctor Charlemagne. Good one to Angela A long time listener every day, don't you? The day is my stuff? Well, thank you, brother. I live with a female for nine years and we meant together what we worked together to nine years. But I live with her and I sleep in the little room and she sleeps in her room, and I wake up.

I wake up every day at four o'clock to the morning. Just use the bathroom because she might you know, pee in the back, Yama. Yeah, we basically roommates. You can say that, y'all. Y'all don't have sex or anything like that in a relationship. No stuff, it's my dad. What's the reason though, Like I mean for financial reasons though, what's the reason y'all still roommates because her twin daughters, we are being in their lives since they were baby.

So she don't want to be with nobody else. She won to do somebody else, but she don't want to bring another guy into the relationship. It's comfortable for her guy. Something might happen because damn they have special uh distabilities to the it. So she don't really want you. She just wants you around the kids. She rapped the seat somebody else. He feels comfortable with you, Yes, okay, And

what about if you want to date somebody else? You want to That's the thing she tells me, is like, I'm gonna go out and spend the night out or she gives me like make say a curfew if you're not home by eleven thirty, I already know you're spending the night out. So how old I'm gonna be honest with you. How old are you, sir? Study something? Yeah, this was you said. This sounds like the story you tell other women because you know you got a girl, so you'd be like, no, I don't really got a girl,

you know what I'm saying. But we just live together. You know her kids got special needs. I just take care of the kids. But we're not really together. That's just sounds like the story you tell other women. No, not really. Yeah, I'm sure he wouldn't call up here and lie to us. Why not. I'm not lying. Yeah, no, I believe you. That's what I'm saying. It's an unusual enragement. But people do get like comfortable with someone they're scared

to move on. I always say that some people get comfortable and being like in a dysfunctional relationship and it seems trapped though. Yeah, like you can't see other people, right, No, no, she can't see she said, I want to see other people. I don't want to be with you, but I just got you around, could you get with the kids? Like he sounding like he know she but she but she told him if he if he stayed up till past eleven thirty, I know you're with somebody else. You don't

come back, Like, what kind of sense is that that's on? Now? Well? Kids, good morning, good morning? How are you well? Get it off your chest? Mama. Um. I would like he could gratulate you for your twenty year anniversary gladly I'm sure Lemagne for being a doctor balling and thank you year. You are just amazing man and there's nothing like finding your life Pard and your best friend. I would like also shot out, my kid, we don't got nothing when you were in your wife for twenty years, not yet

you beat there just time. All they got on you is time, that's all. Yeah. Wait wait wait wait, one more thing I would like to say, you know, just a reminder because I caught last weekend. I appreciate y'all

putting me on y'all platform. I also would like to say, so make sure y'all do y'all check in with y'all saving me and friends, because we need people sometimes to check on us and don't forget to follow me at my teeth, my truth and make sure that y'all buy you know your shirts or you can speak out against social house. Okay, thank you, mom, absolutely, thank you. Here, get it off your chest eight hundred five eight five one on five one if you need to vind to

show down? Was the breakfast club? More? This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're man from you on the breakfast club? You got something on your mind? Hello? Who's this? Hey? What's up? Broke? Get it off your chest? Yeah, we have it all hard time with relationship issues. What's the matter? What's your problem? Bros? Both Wayne? It is neither one of us her hands trust in each other? Why why don't y'all have trust?

What do y'all do to destruy the trust? Maybe I was working multiple jobs for one, I think, and a lot of friends and families and influences and stuff like that. You know, it doesn't seem like a reason to get that. We need a little more information than that, and we want you to be honest, like, what is the real reason there's reasons why people don't trust each other? Well, she went searching to try to find something that she heard from a friend, and then she started doing searching

and being fine nothing. So I think that's kind of where the trust went, like about a year ago. And so you're saying she tried to step out but you didn't, but she was because she felt guilty about what she was doing. She thought I was trying to step up

and went doing some searching and didn't find nothing. But I always friends in the ear and you know, telling her this and telling her Dad used to accuse me a cheating basically every day that you know, saying all this and that you know less of a man, you don't have this, you don't have that. It's a lot you know, it's a lot of nick kicking. Yeah, it is a child involved, you know. So that's my main focus. I'm like, we need to come together for our child.

We actually, yeah, we tried counseling, but when we talked to a neutral person that don't know anything about the relationship, he was telling us like what we need to know, and like when you were saying you don't have a problem, it really is a problem. And yes, and honestly, she like a couple of months ago, she if you have gave me an STD or anything, I'm leaving you, Like, well, why would you think that, you know, because I'm not

doing anything so well. I did trust her until all these functions, and I want to hang out with you know, friends all the time instead of like trying to build within the high. We'll hold on. It seems like you need some some more help from me, so you hold on all right? Hello? Who's this? Jelly Belly from Boston. Jelly Belly, good morning. Get it off first, as I want to thank your producer for being who he is because he gives me life every time. I love his energy.

It's very therapeutic. On that note, I am a financial therapist and I've been going within my family to like literally change their lives. And I've been shocking people that I didn't think I could shock, so and those mental Health Awareness Month and I focus on that aspect a lot of it with what I do because it's the education that's important. I do thank you guys for being a platform that I can say this. So I would love you guys to follow me on Instagram. I'm trying

to figure out my life on the social media. UM Jane's Financial Therapy. You can follow me on Instagram. UM It's je and a E. Everybody getting wrong, including my father's So that's a shame, right. I don't know if he's there. That's that makes me concerned. But I love you guys. I love, love, love you guys, and I always tell everybody to leave it love and greatness shall follow. Um, my condolences to you and b I did DMU like last week or two weeks ago. Um, if you could

check that. But financial therapist do well. My mession is to ease the mind e's to paying around finances because a lot of the times I'm black, men are being told to be the providers and they feel like they don't have an outlet to go stay like, oh, I don't know how to do this, you know, like, and they shun away from therapy. That's not something we talk about in our community a lot. So putting them both together, we needed open up. We need to open up because

there's ways that we can win. And it's not always just about not not to shunt you whatever and be, But it's not just about real estate because that's the most people would want to like to do. If I need to do real estate, because that's gonna bring me pass income, but there's other ways to do it. So just you know, I want to ease that pain like any other therapists will do. Okay, I love it, and I'm lining to many states, so it's a push in sufficient and it's free information. So let's get it. You

know what I mean. And I'm talking about information. Be out there, absolutely get it off your chest. Eight hundred five eight five one O five one if you need to hit us up now, it's the Breakfast Club. Go morning, the Breakfast Club. Everybody is DJ Envy angela Ye, we are the Breakfast Club. We got some special gifts joining us this morning. That's right. One of them has been here a whole lot, super friend to the room. I got my EPs. Another is a legend who I'm mad.

It's the first time we ever talking to on Breakfast Club and it's via damn zoom. That's right. One the Sykes welcome, good morning, good morning. I mean, finally I made it. I made it Breakfast Club. You should have been person, That's what you should have been. What did I have to do to get here? And like you said, zoom when I wander when I saw you with Mike Epps and get a show on Netflix as as number one, and I finally make it to the Breakfast Club. I

saw you. I saw you at Tiffany hat As his fortieth birthday party in December of twenty nineteen, and you said you was coming to Breakfast Club and then then here come COVID. I know right, you would have. If you would have caught a gun charge long time ago, you'd have been on this right, Mike. We are celebrating good news though with the news show, the up shars.

I like the good news because Page has been telling me about this show for quite a while because he was on the show, so he kept talking it up, talking it up, and you don't ask somebody talks about something. You're like, all right when this this show coming out already. But it's out, and so congratulations on how well it's doing on Netflix. Thank you thanks for our answer. Yeah, it's it's I mean, I thank y'all, Thank the fans. Thank y'all for watching Man like I would saying, y'all

just not binging it. Y'all are devouring it. I mean people are like watching it like two or three times. It's amazing. Hey, let me ask y'all a question man before we get started, because you know, we just did come out of a pandemic. I guess we're still in it. But how are y'all? And I want to hone his answer. I mean, I ain't gonna lie. You know, I've been through a lot, you know what I mean. I've been through I lost both my parents in December, and you know,

previous to that, we was all on home detention. We was locked down. So it's been rough for me. But you know, I got so much faith in God. I ain't gonna let nothing stopped me. I got to stay down. I'm doing what they wanted me to do, you know what I mean. And let's be good. Let's be successful and be happy. You know what I mean. I'm sending you healing energy. Damn. Yeah, Mike, Mike has Mike has really you know, been through it, and uh and I think it was it was cool that we, you know,

are just doing the show about about a family. You know, I've known Mike for years, so it's like it's like with family, you know, and uh so we all, you know, it was supporting him, keeping him lifted up. But he's he's a strong brother, he really is. And he has, like you said, that faith in God, and uh, it got us all through, you know, and uh, I'm you know, I'm dealing with the I got the the kids and

everything at all. But it's uh, you know, we just feel we just feel blessed, really, I mean, you know, it's hard. And then and were not going sugarcoat it. I mean a lot of people went through depression. You know. I had some issues, you know, dealing with it because it was just we've never experienced something like this, you know, like Mike saying, like hard, and then when you see

all these people losing their lives. I know so many friends who've lost people also, and uh, you feel blessed, but but you also are like just it's just sad. You just feel sad. And then all the stuff we were going through with the with from George Florida on and the floor that, you know, it was just dang. It was just feels like like when like the Camel's about to break man when we come back. We had moved with Wanda Sykes and Mike eppste Or the new

Netflix series The Upshows Don't Move. It's the Breakfast Club Morning, the Breakfast Club Borning. Everybody is DJ Envy and Juliene Charlomagne, The Guy we are the Breakfast Club. We're kicking it with Wanda Sykes and Mike Epps. Charlomagne. You ep on this show too, right, yeah you can? And uh and uh co creator with at the Hicks. How is the approach different when you the EP and cold creator and you starting it? How is your approach to the to

the role different? Um? But you know, I've been in this position before, so it was, uh, you know, I'm in the writer's room and uh, you know, getting the scripts together and everything. And then when I'm but when I'm on stage and performing, I try to you know, I turn that other part off so we can, you know, so I can make the make the performance. But when um, when I'm not in the scene, then I get back

behind the monitors and you know and watch everything. But um, it was cool working with Mike because you know, like encourage him to like, hey, man, if this this, how would you say this? If this doesn't sound right to you? Or you know, Mike, you got a better joke for this. So it was it was just, um, real cool, very collaborative and looks like y'all probably had a lot of fun on said too. Working together like that looked like

it was fun. It was fun showing up every morning with Wanda, Kim and Page and I mean it was it was almost like summer school. You remember how fun summer school used to be. I mean, you don't have to go all day, you know what I mean a couple hours. I hated being there, but I get what you're saying. It was fun. I had to go for seventh grade, eighth grade, and ninth grade three years in a row with my dumb ass. I'm a school to check it into. Mike Epps. We appreciate you also make EMPs.

I want to say thank you. Know I wasn't Breakfast Club first started. People one of the comedians that came on and you rock with us with a lot of people did not remember. We just seen a skip that you did. I think it was like our first skit. You remember that skip? Were you know the girls in Yeah? Yeah, yea. And not only that, Mike used to Mike used to have me host his um His I don't know that was Easter Sunday. It was a show. You used to do it to guard every year for about three four

years and Mike, you always have me hosted. Man. I appreciate that tough crowd. That's a tough crowd to host it in front of. But you got a comedian. Yeah, not for me. All I had to do is say coming to the stage already form for the Breakfast Club. Man, I'm just audored. I finally made it in man. No, you got to come to the studio. We are we are honored, and I would be so excited for you to come up in person. Absolutely absolutely, all right, thank you,

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join it to the discussion with the Breakfast Club. Talk about it morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Now, if you just joined us, we're asking have you ever fell in love with a stripper? Now? I frequently DJ strip clubs all the time, and I remember one particular time our camera guy up here. He was feeling sad, so I took him out for his birthday, which one nick No No Steve. Steve said. I was out of the club

at about three o'clock. I say, your Steve, he's ready to go. He was like, nah, I'll stay for a little bit. It's like, Steve, you know nobody here. He was like no, but you know the strippers feeling you. I said, no, she's not feeling since. She's not feeling you, sir, she's feeling the money that you're throwing it. He's like, no, no, no, I think we have a connection. I said, well hit me when you get home, so I know you made it home safe. Steve waited there until about four toward

until she got out of work. That's how much in love he was with that strip up. What happened after that, I don't know, but he was definitely in love. It's a scripper's job to give you attention, guys. It's a completely transactional relationship. Yes, you're throwing your ones, she's dancing. That's what the script club is for. It's like literally going into a barbershop paying the barber to cut your hand, saying yo, I think I think he's feeling me. Yo,

he's he's playing on my neck. No, he's cutting your hair. Okay,

it's the same thing with a scripper. But but I will say this, and for the strippers out there, when the stripper is dope dance and they have conversations with their uh mark, I'll call them, that's when it gets a little they're having conversations to see if you got some goddamn money, but see if they should be wasting their time with your conversation makes the mark feel special because he's like, Wow, you dance for everybody, but you're sitting down talking to me. I think that's why Scripps

a great hole. Drop on the kluz Bum followers Scripps out there. That's why they're amazing at what they do because they make you feel special. They make you feel wanted, and that's how you have to make somebody feel if you want them to throw that money. Salute all the Scripples. Man. Yeah, you ever fell in love with shribble? I No, I absolutely haven't. I have a lot of friends who with strippers of former strippers. I mean I never fell in

love with a scribble. I mean, you know I've been I've been fond of one in my day, okay, but never fell in love. The first time you got it was at a strip club. Yeah that was I was a kid though, Like that wasn't even I wasn't even old enough to be in the script club. I'll tell you this too. We need to be asking this question about the bottle girls, the bartenders, the bottom. This generation might have definitely fell in love with a couple of bartenders,

a couple of bottle girls before the scripples. Hello, who's this? Yes he love this show showing it sounds like you fell in love with a stripple or a bottle girl. Yes, I'm falling in love with the Hooters girl. I'm back in the day. Me and my friends we used to group and she was a beauty before brown skimp on a minute and I would for a lot, and I ended up she ended up for nationally for car taking, damn.

And then I remember I was coming the Hooters and at one point in time she wouldn't giving me the energy and the love that I thought I deserved. But your goddamn fragile ego. She didn't get me the love I deserve. What the hell you mean? Well, you know I was tiping her nicely, man, nicely, we go, bro? You leading with ego? Bro boy, poor you? That's all ego? Hello,

who's this? Hey? It's me? What's up y'all? So it was my mascoo, So it was a female massoom that masodes me and my husband actually brought me off at the appointment, and I was like, we got together now feeling but yeah, I was like I was really feeling her. It was crazy. What made you feel us so much? Huh? What made you feel us so much? Yes? Do you know how to use the man? Did she touch places she wasn't supposed to know? She wasn't, But I wanted a flu goodness gracious? So why you ain't keep in

touch with us? If I did? I got to said it was we was on vacations, so we were out of DOWND. So it is all right, thank you mama. Hello, who's dance this? Nick? You fell in love with the ship of brother? Yeah, man, I think I'm a little one right now. What's her name? Asian baby? It's a man of flaws? Family? You gotta playing with lord. Have you tried to highlight her outside of office hour? With her when she's not working? Yeah? Yeah, I mean, well

you're not going to Instagram or whatever. I talked to it. You know, we talked a little bit, but it's hard to get her out of the club. Man. You send a lot of money in the club on her. Oh I spent a decent amount, but I think we're the connected. Came out on the podcast. She came on your podcast. Yeah, yeah, you know the podcast. So she came on two different episodes, but she told so we had her and a couple other people, but you know, just getting to see to

get her and talk to her. I'm like, I don't think I'm with a girl. So won't you tell her? Won't you be like, y'all gonna be honest with you. I really like you, you know what I'm saying. I feel like maybe you can, maybe you can offset her her her lifestyle. You got enough money to offset her lifestyle. I'll make a bed for them out. But I think you don't see. She get a lot of money all ready.

For the money ain't gonna get her, you know you So life show a love show, a real love, like like like court her, you know what I'm saying, like like treat her the way you would want like somebody to treat your daughter. You would want your father to treat your mom like you show U some real love? Good luck? Man? Why not? Why not? Hello? Who's that? DJ? Hey? DJ? What's up? Brother? You fell in love with a stripper? Brouh? No? Man, my baby mom's a stripper? Man A word? Congratulations? We

stripper before before or after y'all had the baby. I would with her before she you know, she wouldn't be a stripper or whatever. And then she got a job at the stip and I started DJing there. I mean, we were just comparing and we worked together or nothing like that, you know what I mean. But you know that was my short. You know what I mean? Okay, why y're not together now? Man? I had to lead that a little man. That's like too crazy in there. Man,

I don't be liking the meeting there no more. Man, I'd be chilling out. I got other I got other seas, man, and I got a job. Now I've just been chilling out. Man. Well, maybe she needs to make you increase your child supports so she don't got a script. No more stupid. Hello, who's dance? What up this Prince of the band Ruge German? Chris? What up? Man? You fell in love with the ship of bro Oh yeah, name miss melphis Man? Oh my gosh,

she blew my mind. She gave you a lap dance and blew your mind, and you love what's her name? Miss melphis Man? So I got the lap dance, and I got a number and all that, and I hoped to again, and that second time I hoped up with her. When I went to the game season, I got all kinds of feels and stuff. Man, I couldn't even finish I was. I got my money for her. I take you that. Damn all right, man, Lord, have mercy on my poor soul. What's that story? I mean, there is

no more to the story, y'all. Brother, Just gotta stop letting y'all ego lead man, because some of y'all ego be making y'all believe things that don't exist, like y'all relationships with these scripples. All right, all, oh scripple owes you is a dance. That's it. And that's only because the relationship is transactional. You paid for the service. She provided that service. That's that y'all get to know each other outside of that, and you know, something happens great

other than that. Goddamn tippic. Keeping moving, Lord, have mercy. All right, we got more coming up next. Keep it lock. It's the best of the Breakfast Club, the Breakfast Club Morning. Everybody is cej Envy Angela, Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guests in the building. That's right, Mike Africa, Julia, welcome brother, Thank you very much. Welcome man, Mike, you are part of one of the most interesting stories I heard over the

past year. Somebody put me onto the whole the Move Organization telling people what is the Move Organization? The Move Organization was founded by John Africa in nineteen seventy two. The organization's mission is real simple, protect life. And when you got a mission like that, you kind of ruffle some feathers. And it was the self sufficiency of the organization that I was really intrigued by. Yeah, I mean, self sufficiency for black people in this country is dangerous.

You know, we saw what hopping to Tulsa, that was all because of self sufficiency. Rosewood. You know what I mean, Philly, Philly exactly. They dropping bombs on people just because you self sufficient and breaking away from their system and creating your own system. People that don't know, just break that down the whole story, because a lot of people won't know what the organization was or what they did and how strong they were in Philly. So, and there's also

a documentary too on HBO called forty Years a Prisoner too. Right, So, the organization started in seventy two by John Africa, my great uncle. And the mission is simple, protect life, you know. And if you see animals that need help, protect them, if you need to see people that need help help them,

you know. And and when you're talking about like protecting people from like police and judges and poly titians that were crooked and dirty and not really doing their job, you know, they pushed back and they did and so, um, you know, John Africa's Korean War veteran, and he saw the destruction of life and he and he you know, got involved in protecting the environment. And um, look at like what's happening in the Keystone Pipeline. People talking about

protecting the environment, you know what I mean? And and um so the system they pushed back. They came and they and they said you got to stop this, you know, move people at the protest against the zoo or the or the circus, and said, animals, they're not supposed to be in these cages. You don't like being in a cage. Why are you gonna put them in a in a cage? The guy's creatures just like us. So um was moving militant, yes, yeah, yeah, real militant, and especially at that time. You know, the

revolutionaries at that time were suits and ties. You know, Mary the King was just you know, not not long after before that, saying with Malcolm and people was like, yo, what's up with this hair? And you know what I'm saying, this crazy hair. Dreadlocks wasn't popular in nineteen seventy two, you know what I mean. Marley ain't really hit the

stakes like that back then. And um so they the police started coming at people, attacking people, and at one point for no reason at all, for protesting, for protesting, unrelenting protesting. They protesting at the time, they were protesting against the Barnam and Bailey Ringling Brothers circus. You know, animals and these animals this tiger don't belong in no circus. It wasn't. You had to go steal that tiger from Bangladesh,

just like you had to steal Africans from Africa. Right, how they changed the circus today now just in response. It took that long exactly, so um, pregnant women will be protesting against the you know these and they were brutalized and pregnant women were beaten, kicked in the miscarriage by the police. And then moved took a stand and said, well, look, we're gonna fight fire with fire. Y'all come at us

next time. We're gonna come back and we're gonna protect ourselves and we're gonna defend ourselves and arms standoff, just like the panthers. And that led to the police coming and they said all right, Well Frank Rizzo, who was the mayor at the time, Trump of nineteen seventy seventy eight, he said, all right, the police will be in there to drag them out by the backs of their next no question about that, children or not. And they came six. I had a house in Philly. How many people are

in that house when they came. So the move had multiple houses around the city. You know, it's not a Virginia, right, Virginia. Yeah, we were in Virginia too. Um, it's it was you know, it's a lot of people, so you know, you don't you don't just live in one house. But that was where we were at that time, was the headquarters. And at the time, it was like it was like twelve adults and a bunch of kids. And the police came and they and they they came with tear gas. Housing

CO violations. Too many people living in the house or whatever. That was like the reason housing co violations. That's it. Nobody killed nobody, nobody beat nobody, We didn't nobody used a gun to do anything. Housing CO violations. The police came like like like you saw the insurgents. That's the

way the police was coming through our house. That's systemic racism within itself because they know that a lot of black people, a lot of brown people, they have to live in and in a house with multiple people because they can't afford to. Yeah, ain't nobody they got realized that this when it comes to because we're talking about black people, right, But I know when the movement first started, look for this the story because he didn't get to the bombing and all that. So, so what happened? I

was gonna say, so what happened after that? Because you didn't finish so um housing corviolations? Police come, six hundred cops come, they shoot, tear gas, they shoot, They're trying to flush people out of the house. Y'all got a roll and and the people was like, this is our house. We ain't leaving, and and and they started shooting tear gas and water cannons from the fire department. And that led to like, um, somebody started shooting. They said a

thousand bullets. They said a police shot allegedly a thousand bullets into that house. A ten thousand bullets into the house. Ten thousand rounds and ninety minutes, oh my gosh, minutes. So so okay, there's two different confrontations we're talking about, though. This one that I'm talking about is the one my parents got locked up. This was in nineteen seventy eight. Shot the shots fired, cop gets shot, he dies. Of course, they blamed it on move just said, well, we don't

know who did it. They checked my mom for powder burns, na she ain't shooting, no gun, don't matter. She was with everybody else. They acted in concert their family. We're gonna send him as a family one hundred years each. My mom was pregnant with me at the time in the jail five weeks later, and they dropped a bomb on that. So later, So then MOVE other move members start protesting about what happened. They're like, yo, you can't

give nobody howny years. That's nine hundred years for something you can't The judge is saying, we don't even know if you did it, did it or not, but a cop died, so you're gonna be punished for it. So Move other MOVE members start protesting, and as the protests going on, the city's response to that was, well, we're gonna put it into him, Mayor of Philadelphia, black mayor, Black Mayor, Wilson Good. We're gonna put a permanent into him. Flew helicopter over our house, dropped a bomb on it.

Black man, black mayor, And you guys really went hard for him to be mayor, right because you thought they would be changing. He was saying that he was gonna he felt like Move was innocent. He believed that the Move nine were unjustly charged, and so he felt like he could help. He said, if you make me the mayor, I'll help. I think his conscience kills him all the time about that, because he's apologized a bunch of times.

He has apologized. And you know the thing about that is when they dropped the bomb, eleven people die, right, Um, the founder of John Africa, my great uncle, my cousin, Frank Um, and not my caretaker. My mother's in prison. You know, I'm six years old. I ain't got no mother, I ain't got no father with me. So my caretaker who was she was in the house too, Rhonda Um. And it took another thirty three years to actually get

the other people out of jail. Wow, Mom, I was four miles away, four point four miles away, watching the smoke in the air. Didn't know what was going on him six right. You know, how do you explain the six year old your family's dead? Right? So I you know, I learned when there was one survivor of the bombing, Ramona Africa, and Um, she went. They arrested her, put her in jail for riot and arson and like blamed her for all of this stuff more than everybody in

stej Envy. Angela yee. Charlomagne, the guy we are the bread for his club was still kicking it with Mike Africa Junior Charlomie. How was your family misrepresented in the media? Oh, man, let me tell you something. For when I was growing up, I remember hearing these things. Move stands for monkey's on vines everywhere. Wow. Yeah, um, move doesn't mean anything. It just means they like to move, right, That's actually kind of what it is. Movement is necessary. Right, if you

don't move, you stagnate, right. But they would say other things like move needs to take a bath. They don't Bathe Rizzo said, all the move needs is a good haircut in the bath to be free. Wow, you know what I mean. And like he was very like outwardly racist against us, and the media really played a huge part and like dismirching our name and like misrepresenting who we are and just making us look like we were just a bunch of crazy people who had nothing to

live for, nothing to fight for. Mumia was the only journal He wasn't the only one, but he was like the main one that would like tell the truth exactly what happened as move said it, and like as the police said it too. Like if you watched the documentary Forty Years a Prisoner on HBO Max, you see like, um, there's different parts of that story that show, like where where the police were saying things like they took Delbert Africa to the hospital, but they should have taken him

to the morgue, right he said that. Mumia would show that he said that, and then he would the police were getting there, like why would you say that? We said that? And he's like, well, you said it, you know what I mean. But back then, it was different.

Activism in nineteen seventy something was very different than it is in twenty twenty one, you know what I mean, especially with people that looked different, that at different, that took a radical stance against police that were actually out there. That's the other thing too, Yo, actually out there outside on the front line. Yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't a

Twitter war, you know what I mean. It was actually people out there on the street at the police station, knocking on their door like, yo, we're here to confront you a out this situation, just like the panthers, you know what I mean. But if you talk about things

and you confronting industries for the wrong they're doing. They will drop a mom even Mamma as a journalist, like you know what I mean, for him just reporting the truth, like you think that didn't make him a target just because he's right down to his current situation right now today, Mumia has been in prison for thirty nine years. December nine will be forty years, and there's there's so much evidence that proves that he's innocent. There's another person who

actually confessed to the murder. He said it was a mob hit, and yet Mumia is still in prison and that you know, I had this this thing I told somebody, I said, if they asked me about Mumia, I want to say something about this situation about Marine Falkner, specifically the dead, the slain cops wife X wife or you know how it goes. You know, it's real unfortunate that that this situation is what it is. And I ain't I ain't never really liked cops just because of what

they did to our family. But I don't want to see a man die. I don't want to see a wife a widow, right, um that's about life, about life, and like it's it's really messed. I know what it looked like to see people's loved ones die, to see them cry and complain and and just go through this thing, and like, you know, but I just know that for Maureen Faulkner killing Mumia, that's not going to bring her closure and ain't gonna make her feel better. Check this out.

Some of the children that were killed only thirteenth, nineteen eighty five. Some of the children that were killed were actually shot to death by the police as they were trying to escape the house, escape the burning building in the back alley. Sambor, the police commissioner right his son. Years later, his son was shot and killed in the back alley of his house, right wow. And I watched MOVE members who lost their children in that back alley.

I watched them watch the news about what happened to their to this man and his son, and I watched how they processed that information. It didn't make them feel better, It didn't change their view, it didn't help them, It didn't give them any closure. In fact, they made it. It made them angrier because they expected it to make them feel better. They hoped they would make them feel better. So I would say that the only thing that I've seen that gave them any pleasure, any closure, was the

love that they could put into their own families. And when you when you spoke to the mayor, right, you spoke to the mayor after everything years later, yeah, which was good? Good? Didn't make you feel better? Now he was the mayor that gave the ok to bomb that house. How was that conversation? I read somewhere you said you vomited after the meeting, But how was that meeting? And how was he during that meeting? Bro? That was the worst. That was the worst feeling I ever had in my life.

So I have to sit across and talk to the mayor that by my family. That was the worst thing I ever had to do in my life. The hardest thing was that even legal, how was he able to

do that? A lot of things ain't legal, But legality doesn't really mean much when it comes to government, because domestic the police get a bomb from if anything is legal when they when they want to do it right, like you know, they just create this and make this stuff up and then you're trying to escape and they're shooting you, and so and so talking to the mayor apologized he did he did make something real clear. It wasn't easy to do that, and it wasn't something that

I wanted to do. My family nominated me to do it because our people were in prison and they were dying in prison. And the mayor, Wilson good after the bombing, he had made a statement. He said he was sorry for what happened. He wished he could change it, and he said that if there was anything that he could do, he would try to help. So there was a street sign he was being honored with his very own street sign, Willson good Way, and the public in Philly just went off.

They went crazy, and so he was like, I'm sorry, I wish I could have I wish I could change it. If there's anything that we could do, you know. So he my family nominated me to go talk to him. I went and talk to him. I said, that's something you can do. You can help me free my family. And he did. He helped. He did, he helped, He wrote support letters, he offered them jobs if they needed it. How many how many you got up? Once we once we put that in motion, my dad came home and

then everybody else came home. Question two things. Does the apology matter? It didn't matter for you, didn't matter as far as far as your own now now, on a personal level, no, it matters publicly, and it matters when you're dealing with politicians, and it matters when you're trying to take take things from one step to the other. But personally, no, it don't matter. My family's still gone. Absolutely. So you got him to apologize. So now he apologized.

That's an a mission of guilt. Yeah, right, so now you can hold him accountable and you did you Yeah, was that enough to get you closer to the hill? And I guess getting the family released? Oh yeah for me me personally, yeah, because se Bro, like, all I want to do is is like honor the legacy of my family. It's nothing more important to me than my family. And to see my family come home, even if they're mad about something, even if they don't like the fact

that I went and talked to Wilson good. The fact that they home and breathing free air and eating free food. Hey, that's good enough for me. So your father was in jail for forty years, right, you grew up without your mom or our dad. What was it like when they came home? It was euphoric. I mean it was like, um, I mean I never did drugs before, but for the people that talk about how good it make them feel,

that's how it felt. I mean, it felt like I was floating on cloud like cloud nine for real, Like I felt so good and at lasts for so long like to be I remember one time my mom came home. We sat on this m on his chest that I've built, right, I built this little thing outside of my outside of my bathroom door, and we and I sat on it one day, we sat on it together. We started talking around seven o'clock PM and we didn't stop talking until the sun came up, until it was time for me

to go to work. You know what I mean, you know what I'm saying. And it just felt so good to like to like be able to do that when I when my mom called me on the phone, like I don't have to limit our conversation, but I can if I need to. Though, Wow, I can say, Mom, I'll call you back. I ain't never been able to say yeah, you know. So it just felt real good to be able to see her eat some of the

food she wanted to be able to eat. Something gets you know, medical attention that she needed, you know, just to see her family members that she hadn't seen for a long time, ailing older aunts and uncles. It's you know, freedom is real important, all right. We have more with Mike Africa Junior. When we come back. Don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning morning, everybody in dj Envy Angela yee, Chalomagne the God we all the Breakfast Club.

We're still kicking it with Mike Africa Junior. Chalomagne. I feel like the city of Philadelphia, the state of Pennsylvania, old y'all some type of reparation. Well, you know, let me tell you about this, bro It gets worse. After they dropped the bomb, they killed all the people. They didn't give the bodies back to the families. What it appears that that the University of Pennsylvania, the Medical Examiner's Office of Philadelphia stole their bodies. Wow. Research we just

found out. We just found out in April of two twenty one that penn Museum and Princeton had this research study Losing Personhood a Question anthropology, whatever it's called, and they taught that to over five thousand students, and they were holding up bones from the people that were murdered. Wow. So it's like yo, and it gets worse than that.

Like so just recently, the mother of one of those girls that that they that we found out about, like, she she found out about this thought her daughter was buried, right, she found out about it. A month later she died the city of Philadelphia and the and the and the pen Museum and Princeton. I don't even know what. I

don't know. I don't I just think about this, like for myself as a black man from Philly, right, if I went to somebody's grave and just took their bodies and was like posting it up, yo, yo, Yo, Charlemagne, we're gonna do this thing, right, Yo, give me five, get your boys together, We're gonn I'm gonna show you these bones that I got from these Jewish people, right and we're gonna you know what I'm saying, and and and just bring your people's right and pay me, and

I'm gonna show you these bones. They stay some serious specimens right here. Five thousand people. And then you know what they said when we when we confronted them on it. Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know. I couldn't do that if I had known you wanted them back, I would have gave them to you. We've been so used to y'all being our property and us having license over yall bodies all of these years. We didn't think it would be different. Yeah,

like what's the problem? You know? And and and then taking pictures with them in front of like a wall of skulls that they stole from African graves. I was on markling my Hill show the other day, right shoot them up, and I was like, Yo, this is how they turn peaceful people into violent people, absolutely, because it's like, what are you supposed to do? Because I did that to one of those people down there? What would they do to mend one of them cops that that shot

one of my mow brothers and sisters. If I went down there they crib and was like, yo, you coming with me? Kill you and then you know, burn you up and then walk around with your body in the back of my in the back of my pocket, and like and driving around in my car like And the irony is where the ones that get labeled with the stereotype of being violent, violent, gross crazy. Everything that they said,

we were exactly whether they value our lives. And then you can say black lives matter, and they get mad about saying that, Oh oh, no, police lives matter, right, Blue lives matter, Blue lives matter. Yeah, you think the residents of that neighborhood, of the families will ever be compensated? No? Never, man,

like some people, are you fighting for that? I'm fighting for justice for all, like for real, I'm on this campaign, justice for move and within that the old sage neighbors, the ones that are still alive, because most of them are gone now. I mean that was thirty six years ago and a lot of them were you know, older people then. And so I'm fighting for justice. That's my john just to my campaign. Just no repercussion for the cops or for the judge or for the mayor or

nothing like. They got granted immunity, right, they were granted qualified immunity, and the judge said there was a ruling that, okay, we're gonna make compare the jory said we're gonna make compare dollars a week for their crime. Just disrespect. That's

very disrespectful. But the judge just that a way, he said, nah, we ain't even doing that immunity And they did for frends and saw that the bullets came from the outside of the house, because at first they were trying to say somebody was shooting from inside the house at the cops. But the truth is yeah, and that's the thing. It's like, so what happens. So one of the one of my johns for for justice, I say, Johona for Philly, Like

we know, we know exactly what I say. Okay, I did radio with Philly for like ten So one of my jobs in Philly is but you know what, So one of my johns is accountability. Like if we if we're talking about change, what happened and told us one hundred years ago? And some people they never got no accountability, right, there's got to be accountability. How you how are you going to just what would make them stop doing these things? If there was no accountability. They haven't stopped. That's the

crazy part, you know, they ain't. They haven't stopped. They ain't going to stop unless somebody stop them. And think about how people could be thriving today if they were able to access what was theirs and their families generations exactly you know what I mean? My dad is so smart Villanova graduate from prison, you know, what I mean, like we we we've lost so much that they've taken from us. Just you know, they just say they just hate everything about us because they ain't us. Want I

want to ask you about that. Why do you think the same country America that tells us pull ourselves up by our bootscraps, attacks us and takes our boots whenever we do just man, because I'm telling you, man, they got they got complexes about us. They mad, They mad because they ain't got what we got, you know what I mean. And then the people like you know, I saw a flag flying the other day it said give

me liberty or give me death. And I looked at that, John and I said, man, it couldn't have been a black person that wrote that, you know what I mean. And it's gonna be no Spanish person that say that. Not in this country. You say something like that, they will oblige you. That's right, you know, um. But but what we do have, man, we got so much, We got creativity, we got love them like we got we got a love like the mothers in the black community

that love their kids. Like when you see that, and like, you know, like are they just they just got a problem with us because we us you know, but that that's their problems, right, What does what does justice look like for you? Um? I think justice for me look like do one too others as you would have them do under you. Well, you can never the way man to do that. You can't expect the white man. Nah, you can't. But you know what with with with people

understanding the importance of these of these situations. And then and then white people are starting to get affected by this stuff too, that's right. They started these things that we was complaining about as black people and as and as as minority people, white people starting to complain about them. Yeah, because they're doing the same thing, the poor white people and a lot of a lot of yeah. And and

those poor white people have connections. And then then then and then white women be loving black men and then vice versa, so like they be integrating and connecting. So it's like our problem is becoming their problem too. But I'm saying, do one to others if you would have them do under you. I think what justice looked like to me is if I did that to one of them, they should get the same treatment that they would give me. Not in this cat and if and if they can't,

then what they do. They give reparations, they teach about it. They're still talking about Christmas, addicts, they still talk um, not Christmas. They're still talking about And I'm the red Coach coming like yeah, okay, well I'm saying the Red Coach is coming, like, let's let's the same way that they wanted freedom from their oppressor. We want freedom and if you can't get it, we wanted to fight for it. We appreciate you for joining us and sharing your story.

And how do people reach you? I'm on Instagram and Mike Africa Junior Twitter, Facebook, um, and that's the way I'm at and also you can same thing www dot Mike africa Junior dot com. About to be a movie too, I feel yo. The last three calls I got were Oscar winning film directors. Anybody I know too or probably Okay, I mean it's they household names. They're not even like got you you know what I mean. They household names probably for you know, yeah, but it matters so much

who also works with you to tell the story. I got three roots. The policy of the organization that I'm that I'm bringing hard for anybody is number one. We speak for ourselves. Number two. If you want to tell our story, we will do with that project number three if you don't want to do either one of the one and two were protesting that because we speak for ourselves. We're here, We're not this is not this is not a one hundred years later where we ain't here no more.

We're right here. And if you just want to try to go over our head, nah, nah, we gotta speak for ourself because they don't. Did too much damage to our reputation. Yeah, I wouldn't do it with any production company that's not black from Philly. I definitely want to do it with somebody from Philly, but it's like could to produce it that did four years of prisoner here from Philly, Tommy Oliver. So we definitely want somebody that recognize us as us and who we are. So that's

definitely important. Um So we'll see how it goes. Put that out in the atmosphere. Let's put it out. Put that out there, Africa Junior. It's the Breakfast Club Morning, So Breakfast Club, your mornings will never be the same. Hey, it's Angela Yee. Don't let we care hold you back. Carol's daughter's got his strength collection supports here as it gets longer. For here that's fifteen times stronger after one use. Available at Carol'sdoor, dot com and your local retailer. So

Breakfast Club, your mornings will never be the same. Hey, listen, if you hear me talking to you right now, that means I'm not really here. Okay, we're on vacation. It's the best of show. But you know, Donkey of the Day, I remember ten years ago when I started this segment. Um, I said that I hope that one day, you know, it'll grow to be a legendary you know, radio segment. It's still not up for me to say that. But we've had some pretty good ones. Okay, they say this

one is a classic. Here you go, it's time for Donkey of the Day. I'm a Democrat, so being Donkey of the Day a little bit of a mixed cluck, so like a dog other day. Picture. Now, I've been called a lot of my twenty three years, like Donkey of the Day is a new wife. Well okay, bowlng uh okay. Donkey goes to self love ambassador, entrepreneur, social media relationship expert Arthur. He's wrote books like heil together

without hurting each other. He wrote another book called Single Mothers of for Grown Men Only, and he even wrote a book called A Cheating Man's Heart, a fiction novel. I put fiction novel in air quotes because based on all these new developments, it's safe to say Derek Jackson's book A Cheating Man's Heart was probably based on a true story. Now Derek has built a following basically calling men out on their behavior. Okay, holding men accountable. I'm not mad at that. He's done it to me. He's

done it to Little Duvall. He's done it to Gilly the King, He's done it to Isaac Hay is the third. This is this thing, Okay, holding men accountable, and I'm fine with that. I had him on my podcast Brilliant Idiots a few years ago, and on that podcast we promised to hold each other accountable. Well, Derek Jackson is your turn to be held accountable. Okay, let's just get right to it. Derek Jackson is full of Okay, I can't Curson. You know that? He say, oh what, Yes,

he's full of that. Okay. He's a liar, a textbook narcissist and manipulator who gets what he wants at the expense of other people's well being. This is a guy who will get online and say this about men who have cheated. I have no sympathy for a man who finds it to be difficult to be faithful after being a permission with lifestyle and neither ship. Nobody told you to be permissius before the relationship, and nobody made you be monogamus. Would just hurt you don't want to let

another man have her? And more times, I would say nine times out of ten, when the dude gets caught cheating, that wasn't wasn't his very very first time cheating, That was his only time getting caught. I agree with you, Derek. Okay, And guess what Derek Jackson himself is a cheatah. Oh, he just got exposed by a woman named Candice. I can't pronounce her last name, but but Derek Jackson, who is a married man, bought this woman to Atlanta to stay in his house he shares with his wife and kids.

A woman, Candice, who Derek was cheating with, actually took pictures of her laying in the bed he shared with his wife and there at laying at home, Derek Jackson, who spells his last name j A X. And why I don't know that bothers me. Jackson may be a slave name, but when it comes to black people, it's one of the greatest last names you can never have. Why would you hack that? I mean, when you're talking Jackson's, you're talking Samuel l Janet, Jesse, Bow, Randy, Mehelia, and

of course Michael. But actually I'm glad you don't spell your last name Jackson because you don't deserve to be in that Jackson power ranking. Okay, if you were, you would be at the bottom, right under Andrew. You know, Andrew Jackson, seventh President of the United States, slave master ff Nick Clints, the Tyrant. If you actually spelled your last name Jackson correctly, you would be at the bottom of the list, near him because of the level of

evil that you display. Yes, my brothers, see what we're gonna do here today is stop the Shenanigans. Okay. See, my father always told me that when you lie, you're not lying to nobody but yourself. And I have watched you since this story broke, just lie an attempt to continue to manipulate the public. I mean that's what you do.

You manipulate people, you get online and have these bad faith arguments, which is also textbook narcissism, meaning you don't care about it even trying to understand the people that you speak about. You said it yourself, I don't have no sympathy for a man who cheats. Not only do you not care or attempt to understand the people you're talking about to have any sympathy or empathy, all right, you are dedicated to deliberately misunderstanding and mischaracterizing others to

make yourself look good. You like to paint other men as being dishonest and deceptive and morally corrupt. Why because you're a narcissist, and that's what narcissists do, project their bs onto other people. The reason you love to paint men is dishonest, deceptive, and morally corrupt, it's because that's what you are. See, Derek, I waited to give you donkey because I wanted to see how you would react to all of this, and you're reacted by doing what

you've been doing all this time, and that's lying. See. I saw the first video you post when you first addressed the allegations. You said that you and your wife were separated during that time, and that you and Candice have had a sexual relationship without actually having sex. Listen, I'm in screw it, molde, ef it, molde. I'm hitting up old chicks. I really don't care at this point. One of those people was a girl named Campus. Now here's the thing, So me and Candice have had a

sexual relationship without actually having sex. Fallacies, nonsense, word salad, lies, denying, changing definitions. This is textbook narcissism. People lying about what happened, the now delusion, trying to confuse us, to make us doubt the reality of the reality of the situation. See, narcissists are often he'll equipped to have mature discussions or resolve conflicts, but in their mind they are experts at it. Okay, he don't even really understand what he's saying, but in

his mind he's being rational, reasonable, incorrect. But the reality is this nigga just lying. That's why what he's saying don't make no sense. Okay, we had a sexual relationship but didn't have sex. That's why it's just an incoherent rant with no logic because it's a lie. Then hours later, hours later, Derek Jackson came back online with his wife to admit that he did cheating, that he was unfaithful

to his wife. Listen to this guy. The truth is that Derek Jackson was involved with other women outside the marriage. About involved, I want to be clear. I'm not talking about just casually kicking nick maybe a lunch or something like that. I'm talking about that serious as six first name, nigga, lasting name. Please, Derek, if nobody else has told you what you did to your wife was wrong, all right.

She had nothing to do with this. She wasn't with you when you was out here cheating with these women, so she shouldn't be with you when you're doing damage control. This story has nothing to do with her. Nothing. And what sad is you are more concerned about saving your business than you are about saving your marriage. You are more concerned about what we think of you than you

are about what your wife thinks of you. King, If you're gonna use your wife as a human shield like Nino Brown used that kid as a human shield in New jack City, at least get her glammed up. Okay, you got her up there looking like she forgot it was the second part to the bust of challenge. I was waiting for her to drop and come up fresh, but that never happens. And guess what, you don't care. You didn't care about the backlash she could receive. You be on social media all the time. You know how

cruel people are. Not only did your wife have to heal from your infidelity, now she has to heal from the bullying that she is currently receiving online. But the narcissist like you don't give a damn because your goal is a narcissist is to dominate and be perceived as right at all costs. Do you know the complex your wife is gonna have now It's impossible to not being impacted by what people say about you online. Ain't enough

God in Jesus in the world. You can put on the whole armor of God and God will protect you, but you still gonna feed into what people are saying. And you could have protected your queen from all that because she had nothing to do with it. This is about you and your behavior. If she forgives you, great, but that don't mean drag her out and have her on your arm looking like a damn puppet. Off Crankyacres and you the chief manipulated, controlling all her movements. But

that's what narcissists do. They deflect a tack project. That's why he had his wife there to deflect. Then he started talking about John Gravey because Shade Room asked him a question. You should have just ignored that, but you can't because narcissists love to shift attention from what they are saying and doing. This, Brother Derek Jackson went so far as to deflect and blame Jesus. Listen, at that point, I had to be for God. I gave my life to Christ and my whole life fell apart, my marriage

fell apart. At this point, I'm not seeing my kids and I really honestly just went to a place of effic It's the audacity for me. I've never heard a person say I gave my life to God and now my life is left up. That's not how that works, Derek. God told me to tell you stop lying, Nigga. Okay, God, Jesus, the Holy Ghost, they don't got nothing to do with your ways. In fact, they told me to remind you that this is nothing but the devil. That's who should

be getting to blame here. The devil, and the devil's name is Derek Jackson. You're the liar, you're the manipulator. You're the narcissist giving your life. The Christ didn't after your life up. You fed your life up because you live in a lie and you had to nerve to blame God. You did the same thing to Jesus that you did to your wife. Bought Jesus into it for no reason. But the reason you do this is because you never truly have to take responsibility for their toxic behavior.

That's what narcissists do. Narcissists do think like this. The only reason he bought Jesus up is because he never truly wants to take responsibility for his bad behavior. Derek, I decided to give you donkey to day after what I heard you say last night because it confirmed for me what I already knew. You are a textbook narcissist like you need to be studied to gaslight his. Narcissists love to speak in the third person. Why because it

distances them from their actions. Listen to this dude yesterday sitting in the car. Listen, I hope he understands that all the accountability in the world is not going to rebuild broken trust, not on a personal level, and even with the public that he's addressing, like even his most loyal supporters at this point will probably have a raised eye brought from this point forward whenever he wants to condemn another man for something like this, and rightfully so,

so hopefully he understands that. Nonetheless, I know some people will see this type of video even though he's come forward and he's been completely honest, some people are just going to close the book on Ding. I'm more so on the side of his wife and just basically letting us be a new chapter of how I see him, because I do believe that his content over the years

has helped a tremendous amount of people. You know, he tells the truth, He speaks facts and quite honestly him And be real with y'all, I've needed several new chapters in my own life. When gaslighters narcissists feel that not enough people are praising them, they praise themselves. Speaking the third person is a reassurance to the gaslight of narcissists that he is worthy of adoration. Derek, It's just simply time for you to shut the f up forever. Take

a break. I know last year with COVID money probably was type because you weren't getting a book for speaking engagements to show up the lot of people. And I know you see your business crumbling before your eyes. But King, just go get help. You need to do some real soul searching. You need to do some real therapy, and you need to fix what's wrong with you. Don't get online that they're trying to project to fleck and attack anyone else. Prove to us that you are not a

narcissist by shutting the hell up. I challenge you to disable all your social media and go away for some much vanish. I know as a narcissist, you believe that you can talk to your way out of this situation. But no, because see, if you don't stop now, I know where you're gonna go from here. What's gonna happen is instead of really taking responsibility for your actions, you're gonna continue to deflect and start attacking other people. And that's when it's gonna get bad for you. Because right

now it's just Candice well Man. Oh Man, there's so many women that are ready to talk about how you tried to highlight them. And if you don't stop while your ahead, it's gonna get worse. And I know it may feel like you can't get worse, but Derek, it absolutely can just go away for a while. I know you got an extremely fragile ego and shakey self esteem. You're gonna be online looking for the handful of people

who's still stupid enough to support you. You're gonna be reposting them, retweeting them to receive more false validation, looking for folks to side with you and tell them that you are right and good and blah blah blah. Well, you can prop your wife up, you can deflect and attack others, blame others, act like you're happily married now, and continue to use this situation to promote that book of lies you have on your website with you and

your wife on the cover. But since you the narcissists like to speaking third person, let's end this with Derek Jackson giving a piece of advice to Derek Jackson, let's public evis announcement. Marriages are make a man marriage material. See through the media and sometimes firsthand experience, marriage has been marketed as what it could and really should be, a long lasting, beautiful, union. But it's not a magic trick that wipes away of dudes. Ain't the waye forever.

You can go, get the prettiest ribbon you can find and put it on a turd. It's still gonna be a piece of I agree, Derek. You can put a ribbon on a piece of and it's still a piece of. Okay. And if you've proved anything to us this week, it's that you, sir, are a piece of Can you change that? Show? We all grow? But you have to make a commitment to yourself and not this idea of yourself that you have created online. Please let Rimmy Mark get Derek Jackson the biggest he haw he haw he haw. You stupid

motherfu are you dumb? All right? Well said, well said, all right, thank you for that. Donki Today they don't go anywhere. You're listening to the best of the Breakfast Club, The Breakfast Club Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlemagne, the guy we ought to Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building, our guy, our friend Joe Koy. Let's go. You got an automoball call Mixed plate Chronicles

of an All American combo. Oh the title Mixed Plate. Yes, you know, Hawaii is one of my favorite places to go. They have a they have a dish if you've ever been to Hawaii called Mixed Plate. And when you look at that dish, it has all these amazing items on there. It's got Korean barbecue, Japanese, uh, you know, tempanyaki, it's got it's got everything on there. It's got tempura, it's got spam, it's got mac salad, it's got everything on it. Individually.

All that stuff is delicious, but you put it all on one plate, it's just beautiful. And and that's how I look at my life here and I just look at it. It's just like we all, if we could just all mix together on one plate, will be beautiful. Interest And you have recipes in the book as well, with all the different chapters. I had to. I had to. I had to put it on there. I gotta, I gotta, I gotta be an ambassador for our food. Angela. I was like, I should try this chicken. What is it? Adobo?

Chicken adobo? Where did you have it? I think I had it at m Nicole's restaurant. What's Nicole's restaurant and uh, cheep knee, cheap knee. Yeah, it's amazing, amazing. You know what. I love, Charlottamagne, what your beard looks like Envy's old beard before he painted it. Because mine is real. You know what I'm saying. I let my graves come in. I'm not hiding them like, I don't know what y'all talking about. Shout the DJ Khalid, Shout the Rick Ross,

Shout the Ditty, Shout the Kevin Hart. I don't know what y'all talking about. Shout out. Why are you trying to bring everybody down with you just because you I'm just you did kind of hate on some other people by doing that. Just stay, I'm just shouting them out. You should have shouted out Sharpie Crawl. That's like you get and you shout out all the other cheaters. You should have shouted out JFM, just just for men, just exactly he keeps saying, to be it is real, but

the color is not. Listen, I don't know what you're talking about, Joe. Did your book focus more on like your background and upbringing or like the journey once you make it? Made it in the comedy. I wanted to tell people, just how hard it was for me to make it, you know, in this entertainment business and the struggle. It was just being a mixed kid growing up. You know. We talked about systemic racism now, and I really didn't even know what that was, Charlemagne until this is all

you know in light now, you know. But I didn't know I was actually a part of it until I started reading my book back in the U in the studio, and I was like, God, damn, I was part of this. I was part of this type of systemic racism, being put in certain groups or not being able to do certain shows because of what I was talking about, or what I look like, or you know what I mean.

It was just I didn't really know it until I started writing the book and I was like, wow, just how my mom went through her struggles, you know, in the eighties, you know, being an Asian woman raising these kids by herself in America and just dealing with the racism that she had to face. Were you ever able to assimilate Joe a little bit? Did anybody ever mistake you for just a white guy? No? No, no, no. They always looked at me weird, like I had the

asal eyes like their light. But then but the roundness wasn't there. They always noticed they were like, what are you? What is that? What is this? Was it very difficult to this book? Was it? Was? It difficult going back on some of the feelings and some of the things that you had to think about. How different? Yeah, the most difficult part was writing about my brother. And you know, you know, it was hard for me to talk about

my brother. But I will say this, and I told Charlomagne this before that you know when I when you brought up mental health and you know, you put it out there and and make people will accept it, you know, because a lot of people that have to deal with mental issues, mental health issues, and I hate saying this publicly. You're embarrassed, you know what I mean, especially when you grow up with a brother that has UH, you know, schizophrenia and UH and the and the trauma that it

put our family through. And I'm not and I'm not saying my brother's a bad guy. He's you know, he had mental health issues. And it was very strenuous in our family and and it was it was a hard time. But I also went through this time where I didn't want to talk about it. Like I would always go, oh, do you have any siblings. I'd always say, oh, I

got two sisters. But I would never say my brother, because I knew once they asked me about my brother, it would go into this whole other world of like, oh, where is he? And I got to tell him that he's in the hospital, and then I got to talk about his mental health issues, and then I felt like I'm the only one, and it just sucked so being able to you know, especially like people like you, Charlemaine. And it's just like how now people are open about

mental health and you don't feel alone anymore. So like like like I know how important therapy is now. It is very important. Yeah, man, just yo, I'm telling you showing it. When I read this in the studio, I had to do the audio version. That was the best therapy session of my life. Man, just reading the chapter on my brother alone. I remember I cried at the end. I remember I had to take a break, and I just remember this this weight being lifted, like yo, it's out. Wow,

It's finally out. You know what I mean? Everyone knows now and and I love it. And and by the way, I love my brother it's this is no way. I'm not trying to say anything bad my brother's he's one of the funniest guys in the family. It's just he's dealing with, you know, mental health issues and we're not alone. I just want everyone to know that you're not alone.

And that's difficult. You were very honest about that, because I'm sure there were times you felt like your life could have been in danger, your mom's life could have been in danger. So many times. Oh man, we had so many cops at the house. You know, it was always physical. There was always jail time for my brother, you know, always in and out of hospital. So yeah, it was it was traumatizing man as a kid, and you know, and you know I didn't like talking about it.

I really didn't. You know, how do you feel about that? Because you would be the perfect person to ask, you know, let's say something happens with your brother that is violent and you said he had to go to jail. Is that necessarily right? Because mentally he wasn't right, so he might not have known what he was doing. But do you still put somebody like that in jail or do you say, no, we understand he wasn't in his right

mind at the time. Let's continue to give him help and not do jail because he doesn't know what he did wrong. So it was jail really what he should be sent to. I think jail is you know the initial you know what I mean, what he did. You know, he would be physical with people, He would hurt people, you know what I mean, and they don't know, they're just they're arresting somebody. But immediately he always gets into the you know, immediately he goes right back into the system.

He gets he stays in the hospital and you know, he gets the medicine that he needs and the therapy that he needs. But it's it's a struggle with my brother. It's it's it's hard, man. You know. My brother just called me three days ago it was his birthday, and uh, you get you get a glimpse, you get a small glimpse. Man, the window opens and there's Robert and you're just you love it and you enjoy it, and then boom, the window closes and and and that's the hard pill to swallow.

That's the part. You're just like, man, you know, So that that's it, it's it's it felt good to be able to talk about that in the book. All Right, we got more with comedian Joe Koi when we come back, don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good Morning Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlemagne the guy we are to Breakfast Club. We're still kicking him. A comedian Joe Koi.

Ye I had texted Joe Koi also when I was reading it, just to tell him that I thought the book was excellent, just because it's not just about jokes and about being funny, but it really is a hard path that you had to go through to even it's where you are today. It took you like fifteen years, Yeah, pretty much. It took me fifteen years just to get on the Tonight Show and just always dealing with like, oh, I don't think they'll get it. You know, you might

want to not talk about that. It's just like stuff like that was just kind of like whack, you know what I mean. But I would listen to it because it was just like, all right, well, this is this is normal, right. I gotta adjust, I gotta I gotta adapt to whatever it is to get me in. But

it just sucked. Man, Like you when you started I'm sorry, No, I was just like, you know, no one really knows the struggle of being a half white, half Asian kid being raised by a Filipino mom dad you know, you know, dad moved out, and now here's my mom that just got to this country and she's dealing with racism all around her. But she's just like, even though she's American, she feels like a visitor, so she doesn't want to approach anybody when they're doing something messed up, you know

what I mean. And here I am a little kid seeing my mom go through that. It's just like step I didn't like, there's this one story I wrote about my mom while we went upstairs to go claim some prize that we want at the mall, and uh and this kid turned around and pulled his eyes back on my mom. And I just remember, like, like when I wrote about it, just I just I couldn't believe how much trauma that caused me because I knew it by detail,

you know what I mean. And I remember my mom putting in her hand on my head, just going he does it, no, Joseph, He's just being funny, Like that's just her accepting the fact that this is normal, you know what I mean. And she's and she's scared to say anything because in her mind, she's a visitor, you know what I mean. So it's just oh, he does it, No, Joe, he's just being funny. But like, no, that's sut up, you know. And and she doesn't need to go through that.

And now, like you need to have a voice, and you need to be able to say something. And I'm glad we're in a time that we're in right now where people are vocal and we have platforms that will support that. Now we don't have to wait till six o'clock evening news. And I hope to God that they talk about something that happened locally in Seattle to let the world know that if that's something happens in Seattle,

everyone's gonna know about it. We're going to Instagram, We're going to Facebook, We're gonna we're gonna let everybody know what happened. And I'm glad that because it's like, as a kid growing up, you would see all these jokes all the time, like whether it was jokes around Asian people or jokes around Caribbean people or Black people or Jewish people. And when when kids made jokes nine times out of tends, they got it from their parents or

family members. But you don't realize how much you can hurt somebody until you get old and you start realizing, Yeah, it's good that we're having these conversations now, so hopefully parents will teach their kids a lot different than we were taught or that you know, we've seen it, you know, in our day, Yeah, exactly, and like now we now we have that voice where we're like, no, you don't

have to go through that. You know, I was doing I did this documentary for a guy Tory, right, and we were talking about fat Tuesdays or at the comedy store and uh, and that was one of the rooms that accepted me right away. But like, if you really look out at the show and the reason why it was on a Tuesday night, Like, does anyone really understand why the All Black Show was on a Tuesday night? It's because it's the only night no one wants to go to a club. It's the night that no one

wants to pay for a ticket. You gotta beg for someone to come to a free show. But here's the hottest ticket in town, you know what I mean? And it was at the store. It's like, why were those shows okay, you know what I mean? Why why do we have to give him a theme? Oh the black Night, Well let's give it a hip hop name, you know what. And no disrespect guy. Guy did what he had to do because that was the norm. He was just accepting the fact that it was a night, like, thank you

for giving me this night. I'm gonna blow it up. And it's to this day still like legend. No one put out as many stars as Fat Tuesdays. Check look at the receipts, you know what I mean, Look at it. LUKEU came out of Fat Tuesdays. From Chris Tucker all the way to to everybody, I can't even name them all, Kevin Hart to everybody came out of that show, you know what I mean. But is it fanful comedians to have to You know, I grew up where a comedy

was comedy. I mean, I've heard comedians go at Asian people, and her comedians go at black people, her comedians go at Caribbean and anything. But you know, as a comic, should you have to watch what you say? Or is it all in the vein of is just comedy, I think you need to just be responsible with what you say, right. You got to understand like, yeah, there are people that will be offended and hurt and yeah, you do have the right to change your channel. But I also think

as a comic you're also responsible. It's like, you know when you're being hurtful, you know, you know, you know when it's do you know it's not even I think so I believe so, you know what I mean, you know the difference when you hear something you're like, yo, man, that ain't even coming from funny. But think about it, right, think about like an old show, like in Living Color, Mike Tyson ran down on Keenan because he didn't like the way keen and Irans was portraying him, but that

it was hilarious, it was funny. Yeah, it was so funny. But that was also the norm back then. It was talk like that back then because you know, society accepted it. And then of course black people were only being a certain way because they knew that was the way to get in into these doors that were like closed, you know what I mean. That wouldn't let us say they're like, oh, we gotta act a certain way. Okay, well then we'll joke around about this because you the people with power

are laughing at it. Does that make sense? It's kind of like it's kind of like Asians. It's like, dude, like, we had to do what it was to make you happy to let us in, and that sucks. And I was a victim of that. I had to do that. I was going to ask you that because I mean, you know, I've been watching you for so long, Joe, like, you know, since Chelsea. But when when you started leaning like really like just embracing the Filipino yeah, expect of

your life. It seemed like that's when you took off to me, Yeah, exactly, And that's what I always wanted to talk about. But you know, when you go back, you had to figure out how to get in because no one wants to hear about your Asian, your your Filipino mom. You know what I mean. I always got the same note. You know, they were like, oh I don't think Middle America. I'll get that, And I'm like, what the fuck are you guys talking about? My mom

was just a mom. She just happens to be Filipino, but she still do a mom, right, I feel like, there are certain things that I universal since you were talking about this story about getting the prize right and she made you guys feel out like a raffle ticket, Like all these raffle tickets to try TV. I feel like my parents would have made us do that too, Yeah, try to win a TV. What about the tupperware joke, Like it's just you know, my mom using cool and

containers for tupperware? Like why why does Middle America not gonna get it? Everyone uses that kind of tump aware you know what I mean. It's just like I didn't I didn't understand why I always get those notes? Why why they always fell on? By the way, can I ask you guys a quick question, why does Middle America depend on what the world is listening to? I'm so sick of that an excuse when they go, I don't think Middle America will get it, Well, you know what,

the world gets it? Like you still say that now, Yeah, they still say that. They still say that. I'm like, yo, I'm so sick of that excuse. Yeah. I was just talking about that to day. I forgot what I was talking about, but I was like Middle I was like, oh, you know what I was talking about I was speaking about how a few years ago, it's like maybe like four years ago, somebody was like Michael B. Jordan wasn't

famous enough to be on SNL. Right, this is what when the exec said, But it's because of that, It's because Middle America didn't know who Michael B. Jordan. That makes no sense to me. Hey, look, I love my fans in Ohio. I'm just saying, who are these executives that keep falling on Middle America as the excuse? It's it's bull I never got that. I just and I just recently got that. I'm not gonna say who, but it was like five years ago it was the same thing.

I don't think they'll get it. Middle America is not gonna get I'm like, what are you talking about? I just I just sold out two forums. I just sold out Dubai. I just sold out Philippines. I just sold out New York. Well, what are you talking about? Like the world gets it? Yeah, I'm just saying the world gets it. Why then are we waiting on Omaha? Don't move? We got more with Joe Koy when we come back.

Is the Breakfast Club? Good Morning? The Breakfast Club Morning everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlemagne the guy, we are the breakfast club. We're still kicking In a comedian Joe Koy Yee, the things that you passed on are just as important as the things that you agree to do, because there's sometimes in life there it might be a great opportunity and you have to really think about it and say, Okay, maybe I shouldn't do this right now at this point in my career, actually might be more

hurtful than helpful. Yeah, can you talk about that a little bit? Are you talking about Chelsea or I mean, but well I wrote about I wrote about Chelsea when I passed on her sidekick, you know what I mean. And I was working at Norse from Rex selling shoes chew. Basically I was supposed to be her sidekick, and and we went all the way through you know what I mean? Uh until, like you know, just moments before and I gave her that call. This is why I love Chelsea. Man,

she was amazing. I should have recorded the phone call, but I just told her. I was like, I don't want to be I don't want to do that. I want to I want to be known for me like I don't want to do a show where I'm the sidekick or that I want to be Joe Coy. But I love your show, but I just I feel like I need to pursue this. And man, I'm telling you, she cursed me. I wish she was. I wish she was on the phone. Was a positive thing, like, no,

I'll tell you you can bleep everything out. She was just like she's like, she was like, you're never gonna get anywhere, Joe, keep listening to these agents. You don't know a good thing when it hits you an act like she was laying into me. Good luck, this show's gonna be a hit. You go for yourself. No, no, no, no, no, Chelsea, I'm sorry. No no, no, no, no, no. Worst decision ever. Watch what happens Joe worse and then just hangs up on me face. But yeah, you want to be my

little nuggie. Yeah, but exactly still let you be a regular. Yeah. Unbelievable, unbelievable. That's why she's she's the best. She knew, she knew what that panel wanted, She knew what that panel was all about. She knew that she had to like that that panel was a unit you know what I mean, And she needed all the pieces. Yes, Chelsea was the face and the voice and you know what I mean. But she also knew that it took the three other people on that panel for that show to just blow up.

And that's why she's amazing, because she recognized that she's amazing by the way. She oh, by the way, by the way, she was one hundred percent right, which hung up the phone because the show took off and I was working at norshom Rac and my ex wife at the time picked me up at norshom Rac and as we're driving home, she goes, do you know Chelsea Handler? And I go why? And she's like, her show's hysterical. And I was just like me. When I think of Chelsea Handler show, I think of you. I think you,

Chewie Brad and Nnie Love. I'm dead serious. Those are the four people I think about on the panel. On the panel all the time. Oh man, I love you. Man, that show is amazing. And now that's another thing. She was like the modern day Johnny Carson. Remember the old rumor, like, well, not a rumor, it was a real thing. When Johnny Carson liked you, He called you over to the couch and if he called you the couch, you made it.

You're you're gonna make it. That's what Chelsea was. If you if you killed on that panel, you've made it. And here's another thing about Chelsea a little inside. If you sucked on that panel, she would literally tell the booking guy in front of everybody, like she'd whisper, but basically be like, it's the last time. Where did it? All the fucking time? Man, Chelsea would do it all

the time. I swear it was funny. Every time there was someone new on the panel, I would just like it would always be after the first break and right when we went to commercial, she just called him over and be like, Yeah, that's the let's go ahead and let's end that one no more. Wow, this is your weekend, right because you gotta. You got a movie that you supposed to be producer called Easter Sunday. Yeah, can you

believe it? Are you? Are you producing it? I know you're gonna be in it, but you want to producers to Yeah, producer? Uh, Steven you know Steven Spielberg ambling Dan Lynn. Yeah, he's he's small independent director. Yeah. And then of course Dan Lynn over at ride Back. Uh, those are the guys. But yeah, man, Steven, it's amazing. I can't believe what's happening. It's crazy. Man, You're coming in hot, by the way, coming in hot, Coming in Hot.

My Netflix specialist second one, that's the one Steve Stephen watched and UH called me in and uh asked, asked for a movie idea, and I pitched Easter Sunday and he fell in love with it. So wow, So you already had that idea in your mind and everything. Yeah, I already had the movie already sold to Dan Lynn. Dan already was in on it, and uh, it wasn't really moving. And then when Steve said he wanted to know anything, and I just pitched the same movie to him,

and he was like, let's go. Why Easter Sunday. What is it about Easter Sunday. That's a huge holiday for you know Filipinos. That's our day. Oh man, are you kidding me? That's our day. That's the day of talent shows, that's the day of food, that's the day of fights, that's the day of everything. I don't know. Filipinos just they love Easter Sunday. Man, It's that's our day. So Jesus is a close second, Like yeah, like we'll get to him after the Adobo, but he's he's in the room.

What I told you, Jesus headline no holidays, Joe, here's not one holiday that Jesus has sent it around that he headlines not not Christmas. Even when you think of ether, you think of that goddamn bunny. Yeah, the bunny that lays eggs, which is not even possible Christmas is Santa Claus, the Grinch, Frosty, the Snowman, Rootolf, the Red nose Reranger. Santa Claus headlines no holidays. Bro, that's crazy, and it's his birthday. I mean, Jesus headlines no holidays. That's crazy.

What is that? What is that? He needs a new pr person? That's what he needs, a person, you know what Jesus needs. And I'm not even trying to be funny. Um the same beard that Mby has. Imagine Jesus with that beard now almost almost looks like the bottom half of a motorcycle helmet. I was just gonna think rules and stuff Now I'm not that. Be careful because Mby will end this interview. Thank you so much. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't you do that? First? You got

everybody calls us a liar. You're a liar. Everybody calls us you're a liar. And you're proving it what you're being. You're proving it about continuing to tell you, Hey, Eavy, just paint the rest of your neck. Shout to calls, shout to Kevin Halls, take that ruler and go down here. You might as well. You might as well, Joe quite thank you for joining us, man, Man, Man, now listen, Joe quit. I gotta say and I told you this

to this. Some really random ass funny moments in this book, and one of my favorites is that you were part of a crew called the Scarecrows, just the nerdiest crew. Man. What the hell? It was just four nerds in elementary school. Man, we were the Scarecrows, just nerds. I like that picture in the book too, where you look so innocent with the glasses from high school. Yeah, I can see why. I can see why you would call yourself a scarecrow. Right, Why are you why why are you talking like you

were getting handsome? Like why yeah, yeah, if you're seeing m VC then but yeah, I was crazy crazy too. Yeah, I have to remain acting like he was Michael B. Jordan in high school. You were, I'd have definitely been in the Scarecrow Crew. I would have definitely been in the Scarecrow Crew earlier too, wouldn't Michael B. Jordan Michael B Jordan in high school? Yes, Michael B. Jordan was always Michael B. Jordan's. Yes, he's one of those guys that everyone thought he was hot. I don't think so.

Everyone acquet Larry. She went to high school with him, and she said they used to make fun of him in high school. No, man, she is a liar. Who is this? Who is this? No one liked that he had anyone liked her. No one liked her. Who is this? What's her name? What's her name? I'm not gonna says his name. His name is Michael Jordan's. She says, So that was already tough like to be named Michael Jordan up to do it? Look, your friend Lorille is a liar.

You need to stop hanging out with liars. Angela, anyone, anyone, anyone that says Michael B. Jordan wasn't good looking like ten years ago. That's a lion bit, right, there you are a liar. Listen tweet us I want to see old Michael B. Jordan high school pictures. Tweet us Breakfast Club am on, tweet Joe Koy show us Michael B. Jordan High school pictures. We can we can figure this out quite easily about very fast. Oh and also tweet Loreal's last name because she's a liar. Loria, I'm gonna

get you, bro. She does radio and Dclaria. Don't bite her tongue. Oh God, don't listen to her. Don't listen to her show DC. That whole show is a lie. Listen, go get mixed plaint Chronicles of an All American combo. All right, Joe called autobiography. It's a great read. It's fantastic. You didn't read it. But hey, hey, Charlotte May, Charlotte May, I gotta new nickname for you. You want to know what it is? What is it? Lorelle get a liar?

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