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Mahershala Ali and Uncle Ralph

Dec 07, 20211 hr 31 min
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Today on the show we had actor Mahershala Ali stop by for the first time as he spoke about his film "Swan Song" his first leading role, his upcoming role as Blade, his growth as an actor and more. Also, they had Ralph McDaniel or better known as Uncle Ralph who spoke on the documentary on "Video Music Box" and more. Also Charlamagne gave "Donkey of the Day" to the CEO of the company "Better Help" for firing 900 employees on zoom.

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Yo rachetness ratchets to sit down right, should come to the most prominent form for you. Wait your ass up early in the morning. But they tell me it was y'all. I said, hell yeah, I'm getting the world smoos dangerous smaller ship three people's choice. Actually, let's I got you Jomo made god people who I can't believe you guys in the basket. Look did we know this breakfast club?

Good morning Usa yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo. Good morning angela ye, good morning, Davy shoo me. The god piece to the planet is Tuesday. Yes, it's Tuesday. Good morning, it absolutely is. How you fair out there? I feel blessed, Black and Holly favorite. What about you? Yes? I feel amazing. I feel great. You know, I'm a big fan of Brooklyn,

where I'm from, where I still live. But what I'm about to say will make people never want to move to Brooklyn. But this morning was rough. I have to first of all, today is one of the worst days I had to park like three blocks for my house because I got home late last night. There's no parking on the street, and it's not like we have driveways. You're nervous walking three blocks away from your house and you gotta walk to the crier bikes all no, no, not a name, Okay, no. But the worst part is

going in the morning. And I don't be scared of people. I'd be scared of rats. And today was garbage pickup day, and so that's always a scary time to be walking in the dark when no one's outside to your car. I'm more scared of that than anything you got pepper sprayed, mace or something like that. But the rats for people, I just told you when I'm more scared of I'm just saying. But I do still love Brooklyn. But I

know it's not attractive to hear that. But yes, there's a lot of rats on the street on garbage pickup day. Did y'all see is supposed to snow here in the Try State on Wednesday? Y'all see? People in Miami don't care. People in Miami, Like, that's why I need to move the floor to people in Miami. They have to care. The reason I say that it's because of my cars. They have to care because of your cars, because of

your car Showy Cotely, my car show. I got all these cars going down, almost missed the truck, so because the truck was supposed to pick up on Wednesday. But of course we can't get it through these snows. So we have to actually start packing them and loading them today and tomorrow. I mean, we were carrying like forty cars down there for the car show for people kids five and under a free so we're trying to put

on the show. We sold thousands and thousands of tickets and I didn't want to cancel because of the snow. So yeah, and people lost them. My friend from Miami staying with me right now. People love snow. They do because look, she's from Miami and she doesn't get to see snow. So she's like, I hope it snows while I'm here because I never get to see that in Miami. Snow is like grandkids. Snow is like grandkids. You love them,

but you can still, you know, go back home. Okay, yeah, yeah, she'll come up here for a day, but she'll be she'll be right back home. Man. You know a song we gotta start praying, playing early in the morning. And you heard the new Marria J. Blige Good Morning Gorgeous, Good Morning. We played it last week. We premiered it here. Yeah no, you played the DJ No, you played the Djalid record amazing. No, we premiered good Morning Gorgeous. That I wasn't here for that. Well, that's what we need

to I don't remember that. I remember playing the Calid record. I remember playing the Calid record amazing. But we need to be playing good Morning Gorgeous every morning for the next couple of weeks. That is a great affirmation record. We played it every hour on the hour. We just played the Calid record in the rumors, but we played that every hour on the hour one What day was that any Thursday? Friday? Friday? Friday? Was I here Friday? Yeah? Yes, Friday was the only day I was here. You weren't

here Friday? Yeah no, we played every hour one hour. Well, we need to keep playing that record then, instead of coming here talking about everything that we're doing, we need to be we need to be playing that record every morning. That is a great morning wake up record. Also, um, I think think of the the snow. They also said it's gonna stone in Hawaii? Did I hear that? Right? Wow, it's gonna snow on her. I didn't know that happened this week. I didn't know what happened to either, but

they said, but it's just weird, doesn't happen? Goodness, gra climate change is real? All right? Well, let's get the show cracking front page news. What we're talking about? Um, well, let's talk about Sony. They have fired a PlayStation executive and the reason why is disgusting. All right, we'll get into that next. Jot it, write it down. So let's get to that next. And here he goes. It's Mary J. Blige. Good morning God, Yes, there you go. Who breakfast Club

of morning? Good morning everybody, Charlemagne the guy. We are to breakfast club. Let's get some front page news. Great record to set your attention to man, set your attention to the foot the day man. Now on Monday night football, the Patriots beat the Bills fourteen to ten. Now what else we got? Easy? Well, let's talk about Sony. They fired a PlayStation executive. He was allegedly caught in a pedophilious thing. George, how do you say, katopo? George Katopo.

He is a senior vice president from the team behind PlayStation and allegedly he tried to arrange a meeting with a fifteen year old boy. According to a video that was posted on the YouTube channel People Versus preds Now, he's been in PlayStation for more than eight years and he most recently serves as senior vice president of Engineering. So the way this happened, it's an amateurstic operation and they actually try to catch sexual predators who meet victims online.

So they identified Kotobo as a sixty four year old who was trying to arrange a meeting with a fifteen year old boy at four thirty am. Allegedly. In the video, you can see the cameraman walking down the street toward a house that Katopo is wearing a black PlayStation five T shirt. He's standing in front of the house. And here's what happens. Who you are here to meet tonight, Jeff, Jeff, we can have a conversation. I can call the cops. Jeff, you want to have Jeff, I got your face on video.

You come back, you want me to call the cops? Excuse me? Everybody, this year old boy to have sex with up tonight. The cops will be here soon. It's come back ouch now. Seeing That reported that Katupo contacted the decoy miner on Grinder that's a dating app for gay,

by trans and queer people. They exchanged pictures and Katupo told the decoy his name was Jeff and then allegedly gave his address in order to have sex with the alleged fifteen year old boy, according to seeing this review of the log, So they actually have posted the conversation that they had and it's pretty I'll tell you one thing. The catch the Catcher Predator clearly isn't as sophisticated as it once was with all that scream and Chris Hansen used to be way more calm when he used to

catch the pedophile some cookies. Of course he can get arrested for that, right. What would he be charged with? Could he be talking about he's a pedophile? Envy? What are you talking about? What would he beach? Because I don't I don't know what the charge is because you know he was caught about to do the act, you know what I mean? So I don't know what the charges are, right well, listen, the thing is that they did exchange pictures, right allegedly, and then they have and

then they have the conversation. The decoy is saying, I'm finally fifteen, l ol. I think we talked before. So even the idea that you're going to meet with a fifteen year old somebody you think is a fifteen year old, and then he says, are you really fifteen? And then he said, I just turned fifteen two weeks ago? And well, what was the charge on the ketchup predator? Because they used to get arrested. I mean, there's no charge. You can't like, what's the charge? Is the attempt? Is it?

You know? I'm just curious. I forgot what the actual charge to get arrested on the catchup predator? And how much time could he get for it? You know? Yeah? Then are you like a do you have to register as a sex defender after that? Yeah? Absolutely? All right, Well that is here and all I know that that's also on an extreme abusive power because he has the best bait for a kid, Like what kid didn't come to the CEO of PlayStations? I don't think he says you use that now. He just asked that his name

is Jeff. That's it Wow. Oh all right, well that is front page news. Now get it off your chests eight undred five eight five one oh five one. If you need to vent phone lines to wide open, hit this uping now. And also herschela Ali actor will be joining us this morning, so we'll talk to him next hour, so don't move. It's to breakfast club for morning. The breakfast Club. Wake up, wake up, Wall you're trying to

get it off your chest. Your man, I'm blast. We want to hear from you on the breakfast But hello, who's this? Hey, it's part of from Jersey And what's going on? Brother? What's up? Bro? Get it off your chests? Brother? I got a situation. Hey Jerry, Hey, what's gabel? Listen, I gotta situation. I gotta My man was doing Uh, my man was doing real bad in the streets. So I learned with my house. You know what I'm saying.

He got his life together, he got a job, he's making my going to an hour commission, and uh, he started messing with drugs. He saw off the wagon. So right, I don't know, Like I don't want to kick him out, and like I can't keep an eye on him because I'm always working and then I don't want to kick him out because I'm leaving in the street that hit it don't be in the worst. So me and his

brother trying to figure out the situation. So like, UM, like I don't know what to do, like you got kids, got in your house, now you don't his mother, But I get him on the weekend, okay, I you know I would just be careful with with him around my kids if he is a user like that. Um, but yeah, yeah, no, I don't. Yeah, I mean I started to cut you off at me because he got a son too, you know, like I don't want to we wanted to say we

don't this week. We want to say something to his son, like we gonna like your your Fox's gonna be away for a little bit because I did a son. I did a son too, Like I get my son and I get his son. Because you know, it's it's a situation. You're a good as friend, bro, you're a good friend. Where you from? So where's he gonna where's he going when he goes away? He's going to rehab or what's happening? No, Like, well,

when he go away? I mean, well, we're trying to get him to rehab now, and you know he gets defensive, like his mother says something to him and then he gets defensive. Then he leaves the house and then like he'll have him stunts. So when we get like that, like you never really know when he's gonna how he gonna act like he's working all week. He just lost his job. So now I'm like, come on fire, like you're in a situation. I can't I can't keep helping

you what like this? Yeah, because then that kind of enables somebody when they know that you're always going to help them out. But no, no no, he said, he's moody sometimes around his kids. Sometimes the mood when you know his mood changes when the day changes. You don't want him to have a nasty or bad mood and he takes that out on his son or your son. So I mean, I would say, try to get him as help as possible. I don't even know which way to guide you and send you, but it seems like he

needs help. But I would be very very careful with him, you know, in the crib with with the kids. Oh yeah, no, no, no, that when he when I don't that's that situation that I keep away like I don't like your keeper. I like to like kind of when we with the son. You know what I'm saying, it's always if he with his son, I'm with him with like that. But good, I brought him to the car sho, I brought him to your coho the whole thing. I brought him his

son and all that. Well, I would now it's a situation, I would definitely suggest that you hit up a place that that specializes in addiction treatment to get advice from them on how you should handle something like this, because they can give you the proper resources. You know, It's one thing to want to help somebody, it's another thing whether you can point them to someplace that they can actually tangibly go to get help. Now they saying, I

think in Jersey you can't. You can't like um, not force them, but like leat them in there like that You're going somewhere they got they gotta do a big jump. No, absolutely, But what I'm saying is you can call like the National Helpline for Substance Abuse and talk to them and they can let you know what are some things that you can do in a situation like this to try to help, and then you can also say, look, you need help. Here's a place that I think I would

commend for you to go to. And they can also give you more ideas and how you can convince somebody to go get treatment. Yeah, because if you don't, he's gonna end up in one of those uh those abandoned homes, you know, doing drugs by himself. And and you don't doubt ye getting hotels and getting rooms just to get high. Like cool man, it's killing me. It's killing me inside. But it's an addiction though, and and a lot of times people can't control it, so it is an addiction. Bro.

I'm sorry for you, but I don't even know what to tell you. Bro. I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm a I'm gonna figure it out. But thank you'all for answering um congratulally throwing you out eleven years man, Thank you. And you can call one eight hundred sixty six to help, Okay. That is the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration hotline, and then they'll refer you to someplace local for you. What is beginning, need one hundred and sixty six to help, Yeah,

one eight hundred and six six to help. Okay, thank you. Well, that's a real friend right there. Absolutely, I pick up your son. I'll let you stay with me. I mean, that's what four right. If you have a good friend, a real friend, that's what they'll do. And I got a bunch of real friends like that. Something happened to me. They will be there. Or if I'm out of town, they will be there. And that's what you want. Get it off your chest eight hundred five eight five one

on five one. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's the breakfast Club. Good morning, the breakfast Club. This is your time to get it off your chests, whether you're mad or blacks. So we better have the same endity we want to hear from you on the breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Good morning, my comedy buddy snack Man, Hey snack Man, what's good? This is our local breakfast club comedian. Oh he's your local comedian. But go ahead, yah yo, Yeah, I got two jokes for

your angela. Okay, let's go. I'm not mad about wearing a mask because I'm saving a lot of them. And begin why doesn't Santa Claus have any children? Why? Because he's not real? Because he only comes once a year and it's down a chimney, Thank you who? Because number one, what if chimney was the woman's name? And number two all it takes is one time boo, Hello, who's this? Tasha? Tasha from Jersey Tasha, good morning, get it off your chess. Okay, well, at first I want to say good morning. Just a

few things Angela. I love that you're a woman doing your things. Dj Envy, I love that you're a family man. And Charlomagne, you're a really smart man, like you really are. I love listening to you when you get going on any of your conversations. I actually agree with almost everything you say. But what I do want to get off my point is the story you guys were talking about

with like the pedophile. Like I used to be a CEO, so I know he's definitely going to be charged with enticon a minor off the bat, and they'll probably hit him with something else for exchanging the pictures. But they only get like five to six years for simple stuff like that, and honestly, I don't think it's fair. I think they should get more time because they're going after innocent children at the end of the day, and then once they get into the prison system, they're still continuing

their pedophilia. There's still a trade and file because you know, they got stuff they're not supposed to, and it's like they don't get better, they just get worse and they learn the trade better. Let me ask you a questions as a CEO. Um, you know once once people know there's a pedophile on the yard that they still get beat up and stuff. I mean I would say absolutely,

we don't ask you know, obviously, see it happen. We get the aftermasth and um, they have like certain individuals that don't walk around they're quite like the Bloody Bandit. So they find out that you know you're a pedophile, they're gonna take your butt or they're gonna export you, yeah, or they're depending on how bad you are, obviously they're gonna you know, teach you up. But they do get taken care of. Wow. Well yeah, yeah, I mean listen

that that is something right. I mean, it's clearly something off with with with pedophiles. So what kind of what kind of treatment does a pedophile get so when they come home, they don't make they don't continue to do that. I don't know. I think certain certain prisons they actually have programs geared for the pedophiles to help them get the treatment. But certain individuals start to say they actually recognize what they're doing, they know that it's wrong, but

they choose to do it anyway. Right, But some of them they don't know because they experienced it when they were younger, so they don't know any they don't know any better. So it's coming half and half. You have the individuals with any crime that know what they're doing, it's wrong, what they choose to do it anyway. Then you have the ones that are really traumatized on their childhood that just need help. All right, Well, thank you information. Yeah,

we appreciate that. No problem. You guys have a good day all ready. Now get it off your chest. Eight hundred five eight five one on five one. We got rumors all the way. And let's talk about Jesse's Smallett. You know, he took the stand in his criminal trial yesterday, and we'll tell you some of the things that he is claiming when it comes to whether or not he was attacked in an anti gay and racist attack. All right, we'll get into that next. It's the breakfast club. Good morning,

the Breakfast Club Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy we are the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Now let's get to the rumors to talk Dan. This is the Rumor Report with angela year well, Damon Dash was on Bootleg Cavs and Bootleg Cavs Show, and one of the things that he talked about was some of the words and phrases that he invented. Now, in case you didn't know, when y'all say, paused, Damon Dash invented that if it's coming, wife here it embrace it, Paul monetize,

Oh god, that was called did you invent pause? Yes, my crew, the best out, we invented pause for sure. There's nobody could ever ever say that I didn't know. That's all that came from my block. It's not meant to be offensive. It's always been a personal joke with my offense and down the whole world doesn't It's like I can't even have a personal joke, you know, everyone says people would ask me, I'd be like, I would never tell them what it meant. Ever, I'd be like,

you have to figure it out, that's right. It's one of the greatest things ever. Yeah, they created it. It's one of the greatest things ever. I love it to this day. I just will never go out of it. Yeah, it was that and the in the note you know word, but yeah, they definitely created that. Now he talks about a lot of other things that he came up with an invented and by the way, he also talks about having his own band, having his own artists boot camp. Uh. He talks about Kanye and jay Z and some of

their comments. But here are some other phrases and things that he invented, pop tags. I made that one up. Okay, I'm the one that named Hova. I made that up. What was the inspiration for the Hova too? Jahova? You know? So, yeah, I don't. I can't dispute any of that. I mean that those are the first The first time I heard those phrases was from day so yeah, all right. Now,

Jesse Smalat took the stand in his criminal trial. You know, that's a very risky thing to do because when you get cross examined, they are going to put you through it. This case is messy. Yes, so he's trying to rebut the charges that he staged a fake hate crime and lied to the police in Chicago about everything that happened in January of twenty nineteen. He was on the stand for over five hours, so he denied orchestrating the attack, and he said that the brothers who he knew from Empire,

may have had other motivations at play. One of the things that he said was Bola Osandaro, who he calls bond, helped him get drugs, also helped him get cocaine. He also said they had a sexual relationship and that started between the two at a particular Chicago bathhouse. One night the two were and he testified they got a private

room and did more drugs and made out. He also says that he and Bola snuck away from his brother after the three were at a female strip club together and they got a private room again and made out and masturbated together. Now, Bolo Osundaro has denied that they had a sexual relationship and said he didn't know that there was even any sexual tension. And Jesse Smolett also talked about the brother Ola. He said he kind of

creaked me out every time we were around him. He didn't speak to me every time we needed to leave. He made it seem like we needed to sneak off. Now, there was a hate letter that was sent to Jesse Smollett and the mail at the Empire Studio and according to Jesse Smolette, he said Bola Osundaro approached him about becoming his personal security guard, and he said he would repeatedly ask him that, but he had a problem with the idea of always having a security detail around him.

So those are some of the things. He also said that he didn't give a police detective his cell phone when they asked for it because he didn't think that the police believed his story. And he also said that the Maga hat was a lie. He told police, um, you know that that wasn't true, and he said that Chicago police his relationship with them started to deteriorate after they mentioned the Maga hats because that hat was favored by supporters of the president at the time, Donald Trump.

So what is he alleged. He's alleging that they were disgruntled lovers who flipped out on him. Yeah, I guess he's trying to say maybe that part of the reason why they were having any type of interaction with each other was because they were lovers, but he didn't say he lied and he's lying about the Maga hat there. Yeah, he's admitting that he lied about the Maga hat. Yeah,

there was no no Maga hat, so he said. Um. He rejected some of what has been reported, including that he told police his alleged attackers were wearing Maga hats. He said he never told the police that. Oh he said he lied on him. Yeah, he's saying he never said that, and he said under oath that there was no hoax. He said he was driving, smoking a blunt and texting with a woman after his MSNBC appearance when

the Olsen Darrell brothers were in his car. And according to the brothers, they say that remember when they said that they were going through like a dress rehearsal of the hoax. He's saying that's not what happened. They just were in his car at that time and he was texting and smoking. He also says the night of the attack, Bola Olsen Dyral called him about his training and his mail plan and they told him to get four eggs. So he went to Walgreens to get eggs and that's

when he was attacked. All I know is you know personally, whatever you know happens in this situation. I don't think Jesse deserves no three years in prison. I think that's what he's facing, right, three is in prison. Yeah, it's like no given probation of something. All he did was lie to the police. Well he's saying he didn't lie, so oh well yeah, okay, you're right, but even at the at the worst, at the worst, you know, he's he's a completely innocent or if he is guilty, Hinges

lied to thee three years in prison, yeah, don't. I don't think there's enough evidence to say that he did it though, Like it's my word verse their word, Like there's not enough. There's no evidence that said that this was a hoax. Right, they don't have no no text, they don't have nothing to just their words versus Justesse's words, right, Yeah, and so he's back on the stand today. I don't think that's enough to convict him if there's no evidence.

It's just I didn't I can't believe this went to trial. Yeah, but all right, well that is your rumor report. All right, thank you, miss ye. Now we got front page news coming up. What we're talking about, Yes, we'll give you the latest. I'm what's going on with us? I'm a crime variant, all right, and next hour also, mahischela Ali will be joining us. You know him from Moonlight in Green Book. He's in the new movie Swan Song. We're gonna talk to him next time. He'll be playing Blade

in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. All right. So front page news is next to the breakfast Club. Go morning, So breakfast Club, your mornings will never be the same. What up, y'all? DJ Envy for nearly sixty years of quality coverage, make the right call and go with the general called eight under General, or go to the general dot com to get a hassle free quote. Today the General to Insurance Services, Inc. An insurance agency Nashville, Tennessee. Some restrictions apply time morning.

Everybody is DJ Angela Yee Charlomagne the guy. We are to breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news now. Monday night football, Patriots beat the Bills fourteen to ten. Patriots ain't doing that bad the shit they't nine and four Buffalo Bills the seven to five? Now, what else we got? Easy? Instagram will now tell users when to take a break from using the app. So they launched their take a break tool today that will encourage you just to spend some time away from the platform after

they've been scrolling for a certain period. So now you can turn on the feature in your settings and you can select if you want to be alerted after using the platform for ten minutes, twenty minutes, or thirty minutes. Then you'll get a full screen alert telling you to close out of the app, suggest that you take a deep breath, write something down, check out to do list, or listen to a song. That's great. So if you pay attention to yeah, no, no, that's great. All right, Now,

let's talk about the latest on the Amicron variant. The US is reevaluating travel bands on a daily basis. This is important right now because I know the holidays are upon us and people are making plans. It's making it hard to even decide like where to go or what to do because you don't know where we'll be at that time. But doctor Anthony Fauci is saying that a US travel ban on South Africa and several other African countries is being re evaluated every day. He said the

US was aware of the heart tip. The bands have placed on the countries, but he said the band was put in place when the US was in the dark and just learning about a surge in cases in South Africa due to the amicron variant, and added that the band was meant to provide time to assess the situation. So they did bar entry the travelers from South Africa,

Botswana's and Babwe, Malawi. But the variant has now been identified in dozens of countries in several US states as well, So now there's new travel restrictions because of this variant in the UK, Australia, Japan, Brazil, can to India, Russia,

and they're getting more and more information about cases. So if it's in all these places, that they're going to band travel for all these places as well, because we already told you starting in South Africa, right, well, we already told you starting yesterday, you have to have tested negative within twenty four hours. It used to be within three days, right and now it's within twenty four hours,

So they've made that rule already. So Joe Biden also announced previously that there's new measures that are aimed at curbing the pandemic. All inbound international travelers have to be required to test within one day of departure for the United States and all flights departing after today. Yeah, starting today must have buy buy a new CDC testing order which was posted, So that's going to apply to everyone, Okay, and documentation of having recovered from COVID in the past

ninety days it's also accepted. And I'm really confused with this because they're saying, no, morochrome might not be as they might not have as much damage to people as the delta variant or the regular areat right, Yeah, but that's not going so crazy over this variant. Well, they're saying it's more contagious, is what it looks like. So it might not be as damaging, but it could be

more contagious. But again, it's still too early to know everything because it's a new variant, got so things come up all the time, so they're keeping an eye on it, right, all right, And taking viagra can cut your risk of Alzheimer's by up to sixty nine percent. Really, what a crazy percentage number to go with your viagra. But yes, so if you take viagra, according to research, it can slash your risk of Alzheimer's by two thirds, So you should take Viagra more. I mean, it's just the study.

They did analyze data on seven point two million US adults, and they found that regular users had a sixty nine percent lower chance of being diagnosed with Alzheimer's over the next six years. You just gotta walk around with a third leg in your pants all day long if you're Nick Cannon. But I don't know everybody won't have that. Because you saw Nick Cannon went viral? Did you just go m no, yes you did. You didn't just go that wasn't before Nick Cannon? What's wrong with you? Man?

So random? I say, Nick Cannon? You said no, I didn't. All right, Well that is your front Pace news. My goodness? All right? Now how do you pronounce Herschela Ali will be joining us. He's an actor, of course. He won an Oscar for his role in Moonlight in Green Book. He's in a new flick is called swan Song and premiers in theaters on Friday, December seventeen. He's an amazing actor, and you know Swansong is his first and leading role.

You would think that in Green Book he was the lead in that movie, but he actually won the Oscar for Best Supporting Actor and in Moonlight, but everybody thought he was the lead. Okay, so I'm gonna kick with We're gonna kick it with Mirschela Ali when we come back, so don't move. It's to Breakfast Club. Good Morning, the Breakfast Club Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We all the Breakfast Club. We got a

special guest in the building, indeed, Herchela Ali. Welcome, Robam, Hey, thanks for having me. How you feel. I'm good? I'm good, first time Goode's good? Today? Life is good? Man? How y'all doing? Blessed Black and Holly favorite brother? So let's get into it. Of course we're here to talk about swan Song first and foremost. And if I'm not mistaken, did you produce this movie? Also, I'm one of the producers only Yeah, okay, So what you're you to this movie?

In particular the dilemma I think the story is is really unique. Did I read correctly that this is your first leading role? First, that's nuts to me. I mean, I don't know why I never thought that this, always thought you Yeah. Yeah. And also, first, it's been twenty years twenty one years. Yeah, and you did when oscars already I'm want to talk about support. How does that change? Some people would say, oh, these awards don't matter and say things like that. But winning an oscar, right, how

did that change your trajectory? Or did it? Did it not matter to you? Did it change things? Oh? It definitely matter. Did it change things? You suddenly get more opportunity. Quantity doesn't always equal quality, though, you still have to sift through it all to make sure that you are are locking in on the opportunity that feels right for you.

Let's talk about that process though, of getting to the leading man status and everything about you says leading man, right, how do you humble yourself to I guess, play your

position until you get to this point. So the sports analogy is, you know, you might be seventh eighth man on the bench, but you believe that you have the capacity to start, you know, And so I think what you try to do is every time you're playing, you just try to show up and do your job and try to prove that you are worthy of more minutes. So you just got to kind of keep doing what you're doing, keep your head down, do the best work you can do, try to keep growing and try not

to repeat. You want to try to diversify, you know, so you might take something smaller just because it's so different from the last thing you did, because then the goal becomes about showing your range as an actor, so that eventually, when that right thing pops, people are just constantly seeing you in a different light. That's kind of been my approach to try to be patient and also just understand that as long as I'm doing my best work, that unfold in God's time. Did you ever make the

wrong pick? Like, damn, I should have did this movie or that movie was great. I could have had an opportunity, but I didn't go that route. Did you ever make that mistake? It's you make that decision, you know. I don't want to say that they are mistakes because I've grown. I've grown from every opportunity, and now I think that every role that you get, there's a reason why you

got that role. That's that's my approach to it, because I've learned something from each role that I got it for a reason and it impacted me for a reason, and so as long as you're learning, it's less about making the right choice or the wrong choice. But it's more about can you look at your growth as a result of having just done this experience? What did you learn from green book? I think like stepping into it, especially coming off a moon, like I was looking to

do something that felt really unique. And so when I look at somebody who was empowered enough in nineteen sixty one nineteen sixty two to hire a white man to drive him through the South, that I interpret that as almost somebody like flipping off the South, so to speak, like he had his own little ways of bucking the system. So when I looked at like his education, his experiences, I was like, this is somebody that I hadn't quite

seen before. So that right there, I wanted to challenge myself. No, no, because I don't regret the work I did, and I don't regret regret what attracted me to it and why I did it. Now, in every situation, things get complicated at time, and so if anything, I think walking out of it you learn more about like what is due diligence. Going into a project, like you could do your due diligence, you ask some questions, Well, this is what I need, this is you know that I don't need, but then

later on you kind of learned as things revealed. You're like, oh man, there's an extra set of questions that I could have asked. But you just also don't know what you don't know. And so that's just part of the experiences of growing and moving from being someone who is most often supporting something to almost in something, and that leap is a real leap, and so their awareness and all the details of that and how much of your life changes and the expectations and the responsibilities and all that.

It's you learning too. You know, you're learning on the fly, and especially once you're working with like these big corporations and you're like, whoa, I don't agree with this trailer. This shouldn't be in it. It's out of context, and they go it tested. Well, You're like, what can you say to that? And so that's often the experience artists find themselves in, and you navigated, you learn from it,

and you try to move on. And especially what happens is when you have studios and production companies, they're faceless, right, And so once that film comes out and it may do well in one part of a demographic and another part of the country, is not feeling it, especially as actors of color, you walk out kind of carrying that bag if you made all those choices or decisions when the faceless companies kind of like they own the next rollout for their next gig. So I learned a lot

from it. Does that make you feel like you want to have more control as far as that's what maybe want to produce? I mean, it's not what made me want to produce, but it's something that added to the fuel behind behind wanting to produce because so often you're behind the scenes, and I'm sure you could talk to a healthy group of actors of color, because it's not just black actors, but where you find yourself where there

isn't a black voice in the producerial role. So what happens is actors have to start saying like, oh, there's a problem with this scene. Can we try it this way? Because that could be problematic, And so that inherently becomes part of your job as an actor, though you will not be credited as a producer, but you're producing because you begin to start trying to protect the film and think about all these things that can impact the film and impact you as an artist. So in getting the

producer at it. Often you're already doing that work anyway. So I've appreciated being able to move into that space because now there's a legit seat at the table. It's not like you're standing behind the people sitting at the table and being like, hey, can you fix this part because that could be problematic or this is actually what we need to go for here can you do that? And they may or may not listen to you that if you're producing and you're the face of it, it's

a way to protect yourself and the story. Now Herschel to break down the movie Swan song, What is it about? The film is about a man who is dealing with a terminal illness and he is presented with an opportunity to clone himself. And so this is the not too distant future, so it's say it's like twenty forty. Part of it is that he just can't tell his family. And the reason he can't tell his family is because this process is new, so there's almost still in this

semi testing phase of it. It's not like openly permitted yet. So with that said, considering that you have somebody who is relatively young, meaning the character on playing and the child who is like ten years old. You have somebody who's looking like feeling like they're dying before their time. The advantage that the clone has is that he has all the awareness that the original has, Like he has all the same memories, all the same he's him, No, he's him, he's him, but he just doesn't have the

illness right. And so there's this thing where you feel like the clone is really about to take advantage of having this new opportunity at life. And so I feel like we all have that character's name is Jack the Clone. I think we all have a Jack Inness. We all have a higher potential, we all have our best self. So the work becomes about what do we have to do to manifest our best selves? Like how do we take stock and take inventory? Do we need a death sentence?

Do you need the ticking clock that you're totally aware of to begin to like look at some of the changes you need to make in a lot in your own life. Envy Angela Yee, Charlemagne, the guy we are the Breakfast Club is still kicking it with Reharcheal Ali. Of course you want to ask for his roles in Moonlighting Green book. He has a new flick Swan song. You ever get a sucking character, though, because it's like you do different characters, Yeah, from all aspects and players

and all different people. Do you ever get stuck in the thing and can't get out? Um? And how do you get out of it? You know what I will say, I don't think I ever get stuck in character. But what I do think is I think you. I think there's things to take with you from each character. I think there's lessons to take with you, just like there's lessons to take from each relationship or each job. And so I try to take the things that impact me

in a positive way from these from these characters. But each character comes with a certain degree of toxicity too, right, because you're living in somebody else's problems for twelve to eighteen hours a day, And so for me, there's a time in which I kind of need post shooting to sort of like almost mourn the character, like to kind of get it out of me, because you get in the rhythm and you get eat. I can't even eat

sitting down. It's hard for me to eat sitting down because I'm just so used to rushing all the time. And you quick change and then you're back on set real quick and at a certain point you're like, Yo, this is not normal. Let me bring it down. I gotta let go of the stresses of this character that I've been living with for four months and begin to embrace my own again and kind of let that go. So it just it takes time to shake it, like

I just feel it. Like I remember shooting Rock Rock Sanne Rock Sane No, but I had nightmares like the last week of shooting and that with that character, like for real, I've never had it like that before. And so there's a thing where your body doesn't necessarily know the difference from the messages you're telling it. And that's why you have to be so conscious of what what you're listening to, what you're taking in. I remember listening

to the radio it's like twelve. I would turn the radio on at night and one time my mom came in and she was like, no, turn that off. You can't listen to it. I was like, what are you talking about? Like you know, She's like, no, there's messages that you need to be conscious of what you're listening to. I ain't trying to screw you. Guys up for people listening. But like, there's messages you need to be conscious of. And it's like if it's playing and you hear it

and you know it, that's one thing. But yeah, it takes time to shake. I want to go back to something you said in regardless of Swan songs, does that movie change your perception of death and life? You know what? I think it encourages me to to live a little fooler. I think it encourages me to put my foot on the gas of it. I think it really encourages me to try to be as present as possible with my

friends and loved ones right now. My grandfather told me years ago, he said, tell people how you feel right now, like and he you know, he started, he got teared up a little bit and he was like, I don't know where this was coming from. And he was like, I just want you to to know I love you, and

you know, and that always stuck with me. I was about fifteen years old, and leading up to this, it just makes me think, like, you know, if there's something I want to do, there's something there I want to try, if there's a change I want to make. There's one thing in like thinking about it and kind of road mapping it out through your head. But there's another thing

in like a very New York thing, just go. And I think that for me is the message, you know, because I just want to make sure that I stay in motion, you know. And I think if we keep like marching forward, that's all we got because you know, all of our numbers are going to be called like a really safe space too, where we're comfortable with the routine of what we're doing in our lives. We know we have this steady paycheck and you're like scared to go out and take a risk doing something else. So

did you ever have that experience in your career. I've had that experience most of the time. And that's a muscle, the reaction to that. When I start feeling comfortable, I found myself reacting in ways where that voice gets louder and you could kind of work to or it, but

eventually you need to react. So when I was on a House of Cards, which is a huge show, it was after the beginning is I don't know, I was season three and I started asking to get off the show, and I had friends and family going like, are you crazy? This thing is huge, like why you want to get

off the show? And I was concerned with getting comfortable and finding myself as how I interpreted just another dude on the show, and so it was important for me to move on, to keep building towards what I saw for myself, which was Swan song. You know what I mean in a way of like I want to move up, and I just didn't want to be on somebody's show, always supporting other people's narrative. So Chao came to me doing Luke Cage and he was like, yo, you want to do this show? And I was like, I just

got off a House of cards. He was like, he's gonna die. I was like, cool. I was the only reason I did it though, because they're gonna kill it. I wouldn't have done it otherwise, Wow, I just got off of the show. Well, I didn't want to get stuck. I didn't want to be on another show for it. I've already done, like I came into it and Crossing Jordan two thousand and one. I did my first year there. I got fired after one year or whatever, but everyone else was on there for seven years and I watched

it happen. It was the best thing that could have happened to me. Honestly, I would ended up on like the forty four hundred and asked for a three year deal, so that was gonna be short, and everyone else was in six year deal. So I always was trying to make sure that I couldn't get too comfortable, because, especially as an actor, you don't want to get stuck as one thing, like because that is death or an actor to only but I hear you, and that's that was

a real concern. And for me, it's always been about trying to diversify and make sure that I wasn't repeating or playing the same character, and making sure that I'm always pushing myself. Otherwise, for me, if I don't feel uncomfortable, then I know I'm not growing. And so if something feels like it's starting to get easy, as much as like, I love when things get easy, but at the same time you're like yeah, and then I get unhappy in

a real way. And so I already know that about myself, so I kind of have to keep pushing myself and figuring out, all right, how am I gonna take on something that scares me a bit. There's there's plenty there's plenty to work out. There's so much about that that is that is challenging, just in general that you know, I got my hands full, and even in doing it and then wanting to do other stuff, I don't want

to just be bladed like that is one character. And honestly, as huge as that is, is huge as the Marvel cinematic universes and all of that is amazing. All these characters are important to me equally. That's all. You say that you were losing sleep over your voice over role

in the Eternals, and I'm like, why your voice is amazing? No, well, I'm talking character though, and so, and all I meant by that was if you're doing vocal work for something your months away from filming, you're still putting together all those things in your head. You're like body starting to change, which is gonna change your voice? You don't know if

you're gonna go with something a little deeper. You don't know if you're gonna so suddenly when someone's like, okay, we need you to voice something, You're like, oh, I was coming to that in its natural order. And so it's just something that felt premature, because otherwise you would never do that. You talk about doing radio, got that quiet stone voice, but like to hear that. But no, no, no radio. But I respect I respect it, I respect it. All right. We have more with rehearsal Ali when we

come back, don't move. It's to Breakfast Club. Good morning morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee. Charlomagne, the guy we are to Breakfast Club is still kicking it with rehearsal Ali. Of course you want to Oscar for his roles and moon Lay Green Book. He has a new flick swan song. Where were you an artist? At one point? I'm still an artist though I make beats. I was on Hieroglyphics Imperium the label, and doing some stuff before that. So I've always been involved in in music in some way,

shape or form. You know, if you grow up in the era, can't separate yourself. You love doing Roxan roxand because of that, you know, are you kidding me? Yeah? I had the ute Phone records or some of my early records like Utfo, Houdini, Fat Boys, like all those whore I was doing yeah like no, like yeah, like no. And my dad was a New Yorker, so I was out.

I'm from California, from the Bay Area, but my dad had moved to New York when I was when I was three, and so I was coming out here and growing up and getting a taste in New York for the summer, and then I would go back to the Bay and I was like, I couldn't explain it. So what about Roxan Roxand how was that for you? Doing that and having that musical background Roxand was was both

a dream a nightmare. And what I mean is that the playing this character cross who is you know, violent, you know, hitting her like we we all know the story. It was honored to be a service of her truth. I gotta be the bad guy, but she's gonna win in the end in some way, right, so you gotta give over to that. And that's the only thing that

really gave me peace about it. So to do something to help tell an icon story and her in particular, was a great thing to be able to do, especially having a real relationship to the music and being aware at that time as a kid growing up. But what was hard was like the actual like physical act of it.

And you know, you gotta go there, you gotta push yourself and then you gotta do it like take after take after take, So you like pretending to beat somebody up and strangling them and acting like crazy for six hours of the day like that, don't just go away. You gotta shake that off. Do you question yourself an acting nowadays when you're doing that, Because I was talking to Megan Good recently and she was saying how when she does sex act, she thinks people look at it

and think that's how she really gets down. In this era of cancel culture, people be like, oh, he must really do that to women. Look how he does it so well. You know, I try not to think about it that way. I'm always a little surprised when people I feel like Danny Glover had stayed impacted by his part in Color Purple. I'm serious, like I felt like

that there's not a sweeter man on the planet. But I feel like sometimes people play roles so well that it's hard for folks to get that thing out of their head and they do associate you with that character. So it's something to be to be really mindful of. But like a career as a mosaic, right, Like, there's all these tiles in it each role you play, and when you step away you step back from it, there's a picture, right you look at Denzel. Denzel's career and

there's all these characters in there. There's characters that are icons and heroes as characters that are normal people. He's got a villain up in there. You know. When you step away, you go, oh, you see the spine of his work, you see the picture of his work, and you get a sense of his essence as a person. But you're not gonna hopefully you don't judge him by one character he played, Like, really, well, when did you start to realize the power of intention? M That's a

good question, man, that's a good question. You know what I would probably say a little over twenty years ago when I converted to Islam, Like one of the things that you do is you state your intention before you pray. So I intend to make my fudgered prayer like my morning prayer whatever. And then it kind of led to me thinking more about like the importance of writing things down, Like I know, I remember one time I wrote down I don't know, maybe like two thousand and six or

seven or something like that. I wrote down these goals that I wanted to do. I want the book a pilot, I don't want to do this that another I wrote them down. I kept it in my wallet. I remember I pulled it out some time later and I like, wow, all these things happen. And also growing up with my grandmother, well, being around my grandmother a lot, she was always like filling my head with certain things. Tell yourself, you have five hundred million dollars. She's been telling me that since

I was a little kid. Like I was like, that's a crazy amount of money. But okay, you know, and you start telling your things yourself things, and so I was. I've gotten messages as as a little kid about like being conscious of what you think and what you tell yourself, and to to don't be afraid to state your intention because it will help you. It'll kind of be like when behind your back ever reason, I have to because everything just hearing you talk, it feels like everything you

do is intentional, not everything. But I try. I try to be intentional. I do try. You know, how did you feel when Wesley Snipe said you'll you'll do a great job in Blade Man? Humbled and so encouraged by that, because then you have to say that, like you know what nobody really asking him for him to come out and say that, you know, somebody I look up to so much. I sincerely appreciated that, so thank you brother.

Has there been any talks about because you know, we got the multiverse and more, have there been any talks about, you know, him reprising. I can't talk about I can't even really, you know, they put the hush that's pretty good at the questions. Yeah, I can't even. I can't even. I really can't really talk about anything. But how much pressure to do? I'm learning it's a lot of pressure. Man,

it's a lot. But other people have done it and survived and succeeded, So you know, I'm just gonna try to set myself up to do to it the absolute

best work I could do. What's the next thing for you that you're scared of to accomplish that You're like, Okay, I don't want to get too comfortable, like we've been talking about not getting too comfortable in the space, and so you have to figure out, Okay, now I want to do this that I've never done before direct and you know, God willing not have happened at some point.

Is there something on the table now? I mean I've had a couple of things pop up, but it's been I've said no because of just knowing what is on my acting slate and how I kind of have to do. Even if I'm doing multiple things, I have to do one thing at a time. So maybe I got something else on the calendar on that day, but I can't be doing the thing I'm doing and prepping for the other thing. I'm just I'm not really good at that will be your dream role? You'd like to tell m

sty Oh, you know what that was? Marvin Gaye for me for a long time, I can't. I can't say what it would be now. I think, you know, there's other people out there that are right for that, but I don't know, man, I honestly, I would have to say that I'm kind of living it in the way of like just getting the play this character in a Swan song, even just the range and like just what it asked of me, just playing even two characters, like it was all pretty challenging, but in a positive way.

How far away do you think we are from cloning people? You think there's some clones out there? It would be Hey, the real meat might be at home, right You know, we always like I wish I had a clone. You might be in London press. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know who who who knows, but it's but doing this make you feel like in twenty years it's nice for real. Half of course, when the watch that can reproduce now cloone sheep, who knows? Yeah, yeah, I'm they

working on it. Somebody looked all them dudes up there flying to space. I'm sure they're trying to hang out on a little bit earlier too. So just come one song the seven seventeenth in theaters on on a Apple TV Plus, and we appreciate you for joining us, Thanks for having me. Good to see yo. We're gonna play one of your beats that you produce back in the day. Herschela Ala, the hell is herschel He's looking at your skin complexion, chocolate, that's what yourschel. My real name, my

birth name is my HERSCHELI hashpots. It's in the Bible Isaiah, chapter eight, verse one and three. It's the longest name. You just called this man Hershey's bro. You know it's all good. They called me that grow growing up. I got I got called hershey a couple of times. Man I was like, no, can't, we can't do that. Get to that Herchela at least the Breakfast Club. It's about this Angela the breakfast Club. Well, Jack Queens went viral, and that is for singing the national anthem at the

Lakers game. And people enjoyed this. Listen to it or the ram pot twee we're so good shraming and the Rockets recol What do you think that's pretty good? Yeah, so he said, my first time singing the national anthem at the Staples Center, r Cobe shout out the whole Lakers squad and then he said, la was legendary. One of them times I'll never forget. You know they always

talk about. They said that Fergie had the worst national anthem rendition the NBA All Star Game back in twenty eighteen, and a lot of people were you know it was it was pretty bad, but oh my goodness, but that's entertaining if you had the game laughing. I remember the play is laughing. What she did. Remember that her husband was mad. He said that Jamond Green old her an apology because he was laughing. Everybody was laughing though, and you know, they made it into a children's book, that

horrible singer. Yeah, the furg American national anthem. I don't matter if they get paid, Okay, Yeah, I mean I don't know if she did, but I guess they would have to get clearance from her in order for that to happen. Absolutely, yes, but shout out to him all right? Um? Now, Punked and Dish MANTLD has been set for a season two premieres at oh Coup. So there were two of the unscripted Quibby originals that were renewed for a second season.

While Quimby existed, that was definitely a quick bite. Quimby came and went, but Punked was hosted by Chance the Rapper was renewed in June of twenty twenty, so their second season role premiere on Friday. Some of the guests include Tiffany Hattish, Little Nas, x Odell Beckham Junior, Tiana Taylor, Miguel Carucci, Kate Upton. Here here's what it sounds like from the trailer. Oh, I think my water just broke. Tiffany, don't want nothing to do with that wrecking ball just

falling on my coffee? Are you kitty drop it? I'm definitely remember having a bait. I always love punk man. I love the Pump with Jady Kiss was a funny one with Kanye West was another funny, funny one. I love Pump. Yeah, I feel like they could punk you easily. Definitely catch me. I do absolutely. You will get cursed out in a minute. To set that up, sir. Your cars didn't arrive at the car show. I will be a good one. That will be a good one. And I had my calls on, oh my goodness, don't play

with me, do not play with me. We have to wait, make sure they get there first, and then do that. Don't play with me. Okay. And by the way, since we just mentioned Miguel saying that he called off his divorce from his wife, they actually were spotted having a romantic dinner a few weeks ago after they had broken up, and so it looks like that two of them are back on again. So happy to see that they hopefully worked it out. Yeah, that's that's a great thing. I

love to see love like that. And you know, they've been together a long time, so sometimes you get in the arguments things go a little too far. And seventeen years they've been together, you got to reset. Me and a wife been together twenty seven years, so sometimes you gotta reset. I can't take this guy out. I'm sure

she does that all the time. All right. And Nick Cannon, we were talking about how Nick Cannon was trending, and then when you went to find out why he was trending, it was because of the suit that he had on that was kind of tight, and I guess you could see his print. And we talked about this earlier, and they found that regular users had a sixty nine percent lower chance of being diagnosed with Alzheimer's over the next

six years. You just gotta walk around with a third leg in your pants all day long if you're Nick Cannon. But I don't know everybody won't have that. Because you saw Nick Cannon, did you just go yes, she did? What did you lie? I didn't know. I said I was on purpose. I was a reaction. I wasn't talking about Nick Cannon. Well, Damon Dash would say, paulse all right, And QC Sports has announced the launch of their no full service basketball division, so congratulations to them. They also

have announced Derek Powell as global head of Basketball. He has twenty two years of NBA insight negotiation and agency experience. That's what you got to do when you venture into something, you gotta get somebody on the team that actually has been doing that for quite some time. Correct, So congratulations

to them for a QC Sports. And Travis Scott wants the Astro World lawsuit dismissed and he doesn't believe that he should be tied to litigation when it comes to the tragedy that happened, So he's asking a judge to get rid of one of the lawsuits against him. Now, he just filed legal documents denying the claims against him by a guy named jesse Garcia. Jesse Garcia says he was in the crowd at the festival, and he's saying that, you know, as it pertains to himself, his company, and

his foundation, Cactus Jack. He's doing a general denial. That's a legal term in civil suits that allows when to submit one blanket response to all of the allegations against them. So he wants to make it clear that the deaths and injuries are not his responsibility, and he wants the judge to toss the suit against him and his entities. So we'll see what happens. Yeah, I don't think the judge is going to drop that, but I mean, I

don't necessarily believe he should be accountable. You know, he's performing, he's an artist there. He didn't hire the security, pay for the venue and all that other stuff. I don't think he should be liable for all that stuff. But it's gonna be in court. It's gonna be a court for a long time. Right. He said he was unaware of what was going on that night, So that's what he's saying. He didn't realize that's what's happening. And you can tell because it was one incident where somebody did

pass out. He stopped, he made short, security got the mountain and he continued perform. And he didn't know that people were passing out and dying. I'm sure if he had known that, he would have stopped it. I mean, he's an artist. I'm sure sometimes people pass out a lot when they when they're performing. All right, well that is your rumor reports. All right, thank you miss yet. Now when we come back, Charlemagne got donkey today, so

don't move. It's to Breakfast Club. Good morning, So Breakfast Club, your morning's will never be the same. It's here, the most star studded black western ever made the Heart of day Fall, directed by James Samuel, alongside a killer soundtrack that features original songs by jay Z, Kid Cutty and Moore. Watch now on Netflix and stream the soundtrack now on all platforms. This don't be a dusty because right now you want some real It's time for Donkey of the Day. So if we ever feel I need to be a

dust man, get it with the hero. Did she get the lease? I had become Donkey of the Day practice club? Bitches Donkey to Day for Tuesday December seventh goes to the CEO or Better dot Com Visual Guard. That's his name, Visual garg. Now what is better dot Com? Well? Better dot Com is a mortgage company that launched in twenty sixteen and they are a director lender providing online mortgage financing.

But fall at doesn't matter what service the company provides for the people, because what it did two which people, was a complete disservice. See. I'm a proud forty three year old man, Okay, I love every bit of my age, every minute, every second. So I'm a bit more old schools than most, So some of this new stuff. I just can't get jiggie with. Okay, see I just said get jiggi with. I did that on purpose. People, Relax, But what do ceo of Better dot Com did? I

just can't get with. Let's go to CBS two New York for the report police. It was a mass zoom call where employees logged on and learned they were being fired weeks before Christmas. In a video that has gone viral, you hear Vishal Garg, the CEO of Better dot Com, giving the bad news. For some, it's reminiscent of the movie Up in the Air starring George Clooney, where firing people in person instead of via teleconference was part of

the plotline. This was real life, though, for some nine hundred employees of the digital mortgage lender, which has offices in Oakland, California. Now, look, I'm old school, and I also could be projecting right now, because I've been fired like seven times in my life. Four times from radio, once from Taco Bell, once from a cloven store called Demo in the mall, once from a factory called Industrial

Acoustics Company. So that's seven times I've been fired in my life, and every single time I've gotten fired except one I got fired face to face. See, I respect when you look somebody in the eye and tell them you are moving in another direction. Okay, the one time I didn't get fired face to face was because my black ass chose radio slute to Ze ninety three jams and Charleston, South Carolina. I chose radio over Demo and north Ford's mall and I just simply, you know, didn't

go in. So my manager at the time, Nikki, she did what she had to do. Salute the Nikki dropping on the cluees bombs for Nikki. I appreciate you, queen. Now radio is even better. They don't just fire you, they have hr escort you out. That's why I never keep anything in any office at a radio station I work at to this day. At the breakfast club, I don't have no damn office. I mean there is one back there, you know, for us, but I don't use

it because, hey, you just never know. I'm traumatized. So I'm saying all that to say that visual guard is a coward. Now, maybe in this era that we live in, folks get fired all the time via zoom. Maybe I don't know, Maybe they still following some type of cold with protocol. But if you have to fire people, call them in the office and do it one at a time. Okay,

getting fired shouldn't be no damn group project. Even when it was mass layoffs in two thousand and eight, I believe we still got called in the office individually, at least I did. Okay. Granted it was like, you know, thirty of us getting fired and not nine hundred, But damn, you're gonna fire nine hundred people before the holidays, and didn't say HR will send you an email detailing benefits in severance. Wow. Now Ivicial has been involved in this

type of scandal before. In fact, this is the second time in his career he's fired employees like this. In fact, he said the last time he did it, he cried, listen, and I do not want to do this. The last time I did it, I cried. This time, I hope to be stronger. But we are laying off about fifteen percent of the company. If you're on this call, you are part of the unlucky group, you dude, being laid off. That's right, f you, dude. And this wasn't even his

first controversy. He once sent an email to his staff saying you are too damn slow. You are a bunch of dumb dolphins, So stop it, stop it, stop it right now. You are embarrassing me in quote. First of all, Visual, how dare you insult dolphins in this way. I can't speak for your staff. I don't know your staff, but dumb dolphins is an oxymoron. Dolphins are one of the smartest animals in the world. Dolphins are notoriously talented mimics.

They are quick learners. They demonstrate self awareness, problem solving, empathy, innovation, teaching skills, grief, joy, and playfulness. Dolphins. Okay, you are bugging if you think dolphins are dumb. I don't know your staff, but I know dolphins. So if you're calling dolphins dumb, then Visual, you might really be the one who lacks intelligence. We already know you lack emotional intelligence by the way you fired your nine hundred employees. Does

everything have to be dig nowadays? That's my question? Why does everything have to be so impersonal? Give me the opportunity to do that walk of shame with HR out of the building, Give me that opportunity to curse you out in person. How can I tell someone. When one door closes, another one opens. If I didn't even get the chance to walk out the first door, what do we say now when somebody gets fired, or when you lose a job, or what do you say when one

zoom meeting ends another one begins? Come on, man, technology is really making the world impersonal. The impersonal Internet has really replaced the human touch. Maybe this is the new wave. I don't know, but I don't like it. Please give Visual Guard, CEO of better dot Com, the biggest he had. In fact, let remy ma give him the biggest he har he ha he ha, you stupid motherfar are you dumb? I thank you for that. Donkey of the day. Now, when we come back, Ralph McDaniel's uncle Ralph will be

joining us. He's the hosting creator of Video Music Box, one of the first shows to play hip hop videos. All right, that's probably where a lot of these other places got the idea from. So we're gonnakick it with Uncle Ralph when we come back. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club, The Breakfast Club. Your morning's will never be the same morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club.

We got a special guest in the building, Uncle Ralph, Ralph McDaniel. Let's say, hey, good to be here, Breakfast Club. I'm I'm honored right now. Congratulations, thank you so much for the documentary on Video Music Box. Yeah. I watched it yesterday. I was I was hungover, so I was laying on the couch and I just turned it on. Oh good. Thoroughly enjoyed it, enjoyed its staples here in the Try State area. I remember it was video music back and it was New York hat. Yes, yes, yeah,

you're showing your age now with New York. I have cable right if I wanted to see videos the only place back then you really could see it if you caught one of those shows thirty one, Yes Town thirty one. And you know, look, this has been something that we've been wanting to do. I've been working on this project for ten years. So we went to a bunch of hoops to get to showtime and master appeal, and then Naas came in and said, I want to get this right.

And I almost cried when he said that, because I was like, what are you talking about, bro? How do you go through all that footage. Yeah, because you have a lot of footage. Now, if you don't know video music boxes, it's a video show that started off playing hip hop videos when nobody else would it was it wasn't on cable, so it was Channel thirty one, one of the high channels, and after school we'd all run home to go watch it. Yes, but you have footage

of years. Man, how did you go through the footage to decide what you're gonna put in this documentary? Because the documentary was what ninety minutes? Ninety minutes? Yeah, it could have went to me for three hours and it would have been interesting. But you know, showtime was like easy, take it, easy path. So but you know, we filled up that ninety minutes with so much stuff, and you know, so many interviews were left on the editing floor. M it was difficult to to really shave it all down

to ninety minutes. But you know, you got the eighties and the nineties. I said, the nineties are super important. Let's make sure that we got the nineties and makes make sure we got them more of that than the eighties because there's a lot more people around from the nineties. So let's touch on that. And I liked the nineties era myself a perspective, such a such a full circle moment for you to you didna this first video? Yes? And then for him to be executive producing this with

with Massive hill Man, how did that feel? Um Naas came in and I looked at him and I said, you know, you know, this is something that I think you're going to enjoy. And originally he was the executive producer, he wasn't the director, and then he's somewhere in the middle set now I'm going to direct this and I want to get this right, Ralph, and and I just was, you know, it was, you know, like I did. It

ain't hard to tell. The first single off of Illmatic, I directed that, and this thing called it ePK was really the thing that really broke Nahs in New York because it was like an interview with all the producers and all the people that were involved. I went to his house hung out in Queensbridge. It was just like a little short documentary that I did from Nah. So now he's doing, you know, my thing, and I'm like bugging. I'm like wow, like this is the god Yeah, it's

one of those things. It's like, Yo, you never know who's gonna be who. That's why you should show everybody. Everybody love, key key. You know. We see people all the time that come up, and I always show people respect because I don't know, first of all, because I'm from the street and I understand respect the street, you know, because we got to go out there in these in these blocks all the time, you know, and I'm like, we don't want no problems out here, so I never

know who's who, and let's continue to respect him. And I think that people say, man, you be out here, you know, you on the av and you in this place, and I'm like, you don't got no bodyguards. They'd be looking around, like where do I'm like, I'm good, what's up. I was gonna ask that you ever got into any any any problems because like with Fat Joe said on the documentary, yeah, you know, I'm on my block and they say video music box, the party down the block.

And you were in the Bronx, You went in Brooklyn, you went to la you went to Ye, you went to the hood, you on Jamaica Avenue, you you were in the hoods. Did you ever have a prom at all, um, you know, we probably did. But my man Beasts, Yeah you highlighted them in the day. Yeah, But Beasts is not like my security. He was my friend, you know, like we weren't like you know people. He did security for all these other people like that. You know, he

became known for white cleft and everything. And he's known. He's in the Shots movie and everybody knows him for shot Is because he blows up the whole place is he's acting, right. But but Beasts was official, you know. You know, he's official cat, you know. And and so we kept guys like that. They just hung around it. I tell you tell people list a lot of not Beasts, but a lot of the other guys that worked with us. All had come home from jail. They needed an opportunity.

And I said, loo, I'm gonna give you all the opportunity to work with me, but you can't screw it up, you know. And most of those guys took it and ran with it and did the right thing. Now, Video Music Box was really just in the Tri State area, but people knew about it from all over. Why do you think it never ended up going national? Well, in the dock, I said that I went to MTV and there was this concert called The Fresh Fresh and I went there and I was like, I saw a mixture

of everybody, so white people, black people, Asian people. I said, Oh, this is happening right now. And I went to MTV and they were like, no, Middle America's not ready for this, Ralph, you know, it's not happening right now. And I'm like, there's a tour, it's going out. I got the videotapes, take a look at it. And they were like, no, you don't need to pull out the tapes. It's okay.

We already know what we're gonna do. And then two years later they did you know, MTV raps and you know, and people thought, oh, you got me tight right now. And I wasn't tight then. I was gonna type the first time because I knew that it was happening already and they could have had to jump on it. So my whole career, I've been a little bit early. You know how that is. Sometimes you're a little bit early, so you don't really take it and go like, oh man,

y'are trying to jerk me. I didn't take it like that. I just said it was early and then that was it, you know, and then what happens after that and people do what they do, and when MTV comes out, I mean your MTV Raps comes out, and Rap City and whatever else was out there. You know, it all kind of feels like video music Box to people. But you know, whatever it was gonna be was what it's gonna be. Was there have any network that came to you and

wanted to do it once? Remember there was this show called um Man, My Girl, D Bonds, uh pump it Up? So they asked me to do that, but they wanted me to stop doing Video Music Box. And I could tell that at the time, Fox was not really serious about this hip hop thing, and I was like, I'm not gonna stop what I'm doing and commit to y'all. And then, you know, six months later, Org, no, it's not working, and then I'm stuck, you know, So I said no. I said, I'm going to continue to do

my little local show. Why what's the problem, y'all? This is a national program you don't want me to do And they were like, no, you can't do that. And I felt like, you know, I was, I can't do that, and M and D Bonds did it and um, and so we yeah, that's what happened. How did you get paid? Original from video music box? Because there was no commercial, but you would travel, you go for borrow to borrow, you in city to city, club to clubs. You had expenses,

So how did you get paid? How was you making money? That's why we started giving parties, you know, and I fat Joe says, Yo, that's what DJ's do. You know, we don't get paid a lot of money, and we do whatever we do to have events and do things,

you know. And that's what we did. You know, we were sitting the club and watch a promoter at give giving us like three hundred dollars to show up and he walking away with you know, twenty five thousand and thirty thousand dollars in his pocket in the club, you know, And I was like, that don't make sense because everybody came here for us, So we're gonna start doing that, and um, and that's what we did. Me my man, Sam,

Crazy Sam. All these dudes were like, you know, we was doing three or four parties in the night, you know, and you know, just walking away with the money and going okay, we're good. Yeah, you're explaining the ductor you never actually made money off the show, No, no, because it was at first it was on a PBS channel and so it was non commercial, which was great really because it gave us the opportunity to educate where you know, you can't really do that in commercial world, like you know,

no time for that. We got a round commercials, bro. We ain't trying to help the community, you know, you know, we we wanted to do a lot of that and we did do that in the show. So it was a balance of both and that's how we got through. Um, you know, being on that station, we got more with Uncle Ralph, Ralph McDaniels when we come back. Of course, he's the creator a video music box. It's the Breakfast

Club The Morning, The Morning, everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee. Charlomagne, the guy we are the Breakfast Club was still kicking it with Uncle Ralph Charlomagne. You know, you got the video of of Bigger Nas freestyle and you know Jay and Big in the club all great, But what is your most prized piece of footage? M hm, that's a

good question. Um. I think for me, Um, it's probably Big and Jay when they did the My Birthday because that was really kind of like out of the blue, and Jay came and was hosting it and they and they were both at the early stages of their career. Was like beginning of Rockefeller and the Big you know, beginning of Big, you know at Bad Boy and and

they just in the place was crowded. You know, this is when people got dressed up and they danced at clubs and remember that, and you know, it was just one of those nights where you were like, couldn't call that any better than that. That was that was a beautiful night. You know, it was like everybody, your peers were there, you know, just you know, one of those one of those shows that was just it was perfect.

But you didn't realize that those two individuals would become these mythical yeah, you know, beings that they are now right right. You always say, you know, people always ask me, what if Big was alive, what would that be like between him and Jay and Nas, Like what would that you know, what would that look like? And I don't know, you know, like I mean Nas, you know is you know, like I'm a fan of like, you know, poets and you know, and Nas is that that kind of spiritual

kind of thing. You know. That's how when he started doing my thing, I was like, this is a spiritual dude. Man, Like I'm gonna be in a good place, you know. I see. I used. All I was saying to to was we gotta have that hip hop soul. Bro. No, you know, because I watched documentaries and I'm like, this is mad generic right now. We noticed everybody. If people notice all this information, we don't need to go through this. Let's get into different stories. And that's what I wanted

to do with this. And he was like, got it, and he just started working and making sure that the direction took the right direction because we know, yeah it was the Bronx, and we know there was dances, and we know graffiti. We know that already. We there's more stories to us than that. You know. To me, the soul comes from your footage, yes, you know what I mean, Like your footage throughout gives it that warmth, makes it

you know classic. Yeah, yeah, nah, I mean, And I'm I'm super happy that you know that we still have the footage because I thought about that too when you whenever you showed the room. I'm always thinking about what if he'd lost all of that the way Rizzly lost all that, right, Yeah, yeah, rizz you know, loss so many of his masters. But you know, we've been in the last One thing about the pandemic is it got me to be around and really work on digitizing all

this content. So I just was like, yo, I gotta get this done. And we started in a nonprofit, the Video Music Box Collection, and we started raising money for it, and you know, and people started, you know, giving us a couple of dollars. We're still raising money for I still need money for people, give me some money. But we that is what helped us get to the point where we have. You know, you can look at this content and be like, wow, it's pretty clear. You know

thirty years ago. You know, you remember the DVD day all of that. You know, there's guys out there that can have content that is super important. Man restore it, take care of it. Our history, hip hop history is important. History is black history is important. But you know, sometimes

our stuff just gets pushed to the side. There's been so many masters and visuals that have been lost over the years, and it's like, wait a minute, somebody just threw that away because they didn't think it was important, Like, well, who did that? You know happens all the time? Part two? Since you said you do have a lot of footage that you weren't even able to use for this one. Yeah, I told um showtime, like yo, we could do two, three more you know, and some other stories that we

got in the books. So that's on the plate for twenty twenty two. I would like to see artists talk about those moments more, like I want to just hear nas go more in death on the Big Thing because he said something and the doctor I didn't know. He was like, yo, him and Big with us to start a crew right called the good Fellas. And I was like, well then what didn't him and Jay weren't they gonna start the commission? Big and Jay? So I'm like, right,

what what did that have look like? You know? I would like to hit the artists see those videos and those moments and how they remember. The crazy thing about that moment is that in that night was like method Man was there j birthday party? Jones? Well, miss Jones says that it wasn't a birthday party, it was an album released party, but I'm pretty sure it was a birthday, but I don't know much, but um yeah, anyway, you know,

Common was there. You know, there were so many artists that were just getting ready to come up, you know, and I was like, you know, I look at the footage and you know, now sucks about it was a fight behind him, there was, you know, and we knew it was coming like one of those parties with somebody gonna fight and this. You know, you know, it's just

too much energy. You know. You ever see of looking at all the footage, you ever see people in the crowd, You'd be like, look at that artist, now they're a huge rapper. Look at this person. You ever see some of those Yeah, you know. I had that conversation with Jay Cole because he went to Saint John's University and was a fan of Video Music Box when he was at Saint John. And Jay Cole was like, man, you know, you know, I came to your parties, I came to

your offense. I know who you are, you know, and this was a young guy and I was like, I knew who was music. I was familiar with him, and I was like, yo, I appreciate you man, You're coming up the same thing with Asap Rocky. You know, He's like, yo, man, I gotta call my mom. I'm standing next to Raph McDaniels right now, you know. And and asap Ferg I

knew his dad, you know. So I see these people in in in the in the at their young stage and now to watch like I did this interview with Fergan, I was like, yo, bro, you're doing some amazing thing. He's building furniture and cars and okay, you know, like that's what we did this for for that to happen. I saw j D. I saw j D and some footage with Udini on the duck. I use that footage all the time too, yet paid every time I use your footage. Yes, how do you want Video Music Box

to be remembered? The whole idea of this you're watching Video Music Box film was to not be forgotten because I could easily see how our history is forgotten and the importance of us just giving an artist a little bit of a break, a little bit of three minutes of a of a music video or a shout out is what catapulted all of these artists that we now know and love into stardom. And you know, making a whole bunch of money, and I was like, we can't let that go. You know, my daughter is to produce

on it. And I said, Kim, you know, we gotta keep this legacy everybody, not just me. You know, we just gotta keep out like we don't do that, you know, Black folks, you know, you know, all these other names are on buildings or whatever. They're important. We need to get our names on buildings. We have so many street names being changed. Now. That's the process of starting to do that, you know, getting name changing in community so that we see a name or we see a statue

that we can relate to us. And that's what this is part of the same concept. And they're certain people whenever they call you should always pick up that phone and say, yes, what do you need me for? And you're one of those people. Ralph McDaniel Solf. He's going to put that out there too. Yes, thank you so much, Thank you, Uncle Ralph, Uncle Ralph, we appreciate you for Make sure y'all go watch that documentary on Showtime. It's on Showtime on demand right now. You're watching Video Music Box.

It's Uncle Ralph, Ralph McDaniels, It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning the Breakfast Club holding. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomne the guy. We are to Breakfast Club. Let's get to the room as let's talk Ye. This is the rumor report with Angela Yee on the Breakfast Club. So Drake has withdrawn his Grammy nominations. He has gotten two nominations for the twenty twenty two Grammys, and that was for Best Rap Album for Certified Love a Boy and

for Best Rap Performance for A Way Too Sexy. Now, we're not sure why that decision was made, but they're going to remove it from the Grammy website in an update. So I'm not sure what happened here, but you know, remember The Weekend didn't get any Grammy nominations last year, and so he criticized the Grammys for that. I know they have a good relationship, and so Drake had made

a statement at the time. He said, I think we should stop allowing ourselves to be shocked every year by the disconnect between impactful music and these awards and just accept that what once was the highest form of recognition may no longer matter to the artists that exists now and the ones that come after that and he said, this is a great time to start something new that we can build up over town and pass on to the generations to come. I think he cares about the Grammys.

I mean, he made a great album in Drake is Spitting. If you listen to a lot of Drake's wraps and what he's rhyming and his features, that boy will fire. You don't care all right now. Pete Davidson and Machine Gun Kelly, I know you enjoyed this. They did a live stream and they were doing a photo shoot wearing their Calvin Klein briefs and so the two of them kind of stripped down to their underwear for this campaign and they did like a little fake, funny, spicy photo shoot.

They took turns posing on the couch and then there was one scene where Pete Davidson is on the cow test Machine Gun Kelly is pouring popcorn into his mouth. It was weird, but did they pause. Here's what it was sounding like. I don't know, this is what I was kind of picturing. Nice stuff by the way, Now, yeah, I just I would have put an extra like two socks in there and just always got to fuck up or get a sweet in between her going yeah, for sure, you can't let go cold, you know what I mean?

And I'm freezing right now. How Yeah, I am a grower for sure. I'm not really a growl or a shower for sure. It's actually a scientific wonder. That's okay, We'll just get a new agents. Just having fun, man, that's all it is. They just having fun. And Calvin Klein did year a photo of the two of them at the camera, so I guess it's a campaign for Calvin Klein. It worked, yeah, And Calvin Clean, please stop calling me. I don't like I don't want to do it, you know. I know you guys offer me a lot

to you know, be underway a model. I don't want to do it. I just don't. Is it that Calvin or is it the Calvin who works at McDonald's. No, Calvin klean to me a lot, but I don't want to do it. I don't want to show if my body like that. We don't want you to do it either, all right. And Virgil, they did on a Virgil Ablow in his hometown. There was a memorial and there were a lot of people that participated to pay their respects to the family. Rihanna, Kim Kardashian, Kanye Tyler, the Creator,

Drake Kid, Cutty, Frank Ocean Asap Rocky. And so this was all in Chicago at the Museum of Contemporary Art yesterday. And so here is his sister, Edwina Abelow. And here's what you had to say. As Virgil once said in a slat show, there's no woman. Life is short. And then you can't waste even the day subscribing to what people think you should do. Virgil was the permanent mark on the world in which we will never forget. Your legacy will continue to flourish in the eyes of woe

and great. I'm forever grateful for you. Wrist fell, my sweet and gentle again. Arrest in peace to Virgil. He was only forty one years old when he passed away from cancer. It was a private battle that he did not disclose publicly. Only his closest friends were aware of it. Alright, in this comedy festival, this sounds like something amazing. To go to Netflix is a joke. Now, this festival was supposed to happen last year, but because of the pandemic

that it didn't happen. But now it is going to happen, and that's gonna be April twenty ninth to May eighth of twenty twenty two. So we know some of the people who would be on that stage. Dave Chappelle, okay, Amy Schumer, Tina Fey, Yeah, Wanda Psykes, Jerry Seinfeld, David let Himan, Chris Rock Ali Wang. Wow. Yes, it's gonna be huge, and so I think that would be something really fun to go to. This is in La Okay,

I feel like we need to be there. So in addition, there's going to be Dion Cole as he's un sorry, Chelsea Handler, Kevin Hart, some of our favorites, Pete Davidson will be there, Ellen DeGeneres, Whill performing. It's what they're calling kind of the Coachella of comedy, but not saying the name Coachella because yeah, no, they're not doing that, all right. So yeah, so that sounds like something really dope to go to. So that is Netflix is a Netflix does have a lot of the best comedy specials

on there too, Yes they do. All right, Well that is your rumor reports, all right, thank you, missy, And I don't forget my call shows like four or five days or that fight celebrity calls from people like Kalid fifty Yogatti Trina, Um, you don't want my car. I got a twenty twenty two. Um it didn't make the cut. Okay, I got your call. Next year in New York. I'm not gonna take your car to Miami. But um, yeah, so we got and that was a nice letdown. That's

a nice way that you let me down. Your next year, your my car don't need to be at theme. I'm appressed with your car. Call is really really dope. Having my fairy Nike ye over shout the Nike ye yes over at Freeport Long Island. Who made it happen for me? At BMW when they were saying nobody was getting in the car, I was listening to everybody else telling everyone, Oh, yeah, you know, we just don't have an available this is

all we have what's in stock. And I was able to customize and order my car the way that I wanted. Is so thank you again, have the Nike ye but call showing five days, get your tickets, kids five and under a free and I can't wait to see you this Sunday in Miami. All right, this meet out y'all heard it, I did not, all right, Well, the People's Choice mixes up next to get your request in It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, So Breakfast Club, your morning's

will never be the same. No Arts created the More Than Just Words Initiative to raise awareness about racial disparities and breast cancer. Care to learn more about what more than Just Words hopes to accomplish. An here talk with Grammy nominated R and B artist Jasmine Sullivan. Visit more Than Just Words dot us morning everybody in dj Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club Now.

Shout out to Mahierschela Ali for joining us this morning. Yes, amazing actor, so I'm excited for him to actually direct his first feature film coming up next. And also Ralph McDaniel's uncle, Ralph the hosting creator of video music Box. I grew up on that and I love this documentary. If you get a chance school check it out. It's on showtime, right Uncle Ralph. I run into him all the time. He'd always been like super cool and humble, so I can see why people will always be open

to want to talk to him. Absolutely show him his respect, all right, and now when we come back. We got the positive notes, so don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good Morning Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. I'm super duper excited. I think we got like four or five more days to my car show in Miami. We had to run an audible. It's supposed to snow in New York, so I have to get the cars out of here so

I can get them to the car show. We got about thirty forty cars heading out to Miami, so all day today I'll be driving the cars to the trucks and getting them loaded because we just gotta get these cars out of here. I don't want no problems with snow. I don't want no accidents. You know, we got a lot of valuable cars and a lot of people's cars on these trucks, so we're gonna get these cars out today. If you haven't got your tickets to the car show,

get your tickets. Celebrity cars from Calid It's gonna have some cars in the show. Yo Gotti, floor Rider, Trina, Dwayne Wade, Nikki Jams, just to name a few. So get your tickets if you haven't got them already. Yeah, And I want to shout out to tam La Payne. Her son, Casey Goodson, was killed by a police officer. She hit me up. She said, she's probably going to be at your car show. So yeah, and we've had her on the Breakfast Club before. But she's still trying

to get justice for her son. And so there's been some more news lately. The cop who did kill her son is actually being indicted, So I think that's important information and we'll be following that case very closely. He was going to subway walking up to his house and hadn't done anything wrong. And so finally the Ohio deputy has been charged with murder in the case of Casey Goodson Jr. And she's been fighting for this for quite some time right now, so there's no body camera, no

dash cam footage. Everything that happened is still largely unexplained, and so they were fighting just to even have this case heard. So I'm happy to say that at least that's happening. You know, so far he had a sandwich in his hand, not a gun, and there you have it. So we'll keep you guys updated on that though it's been a really tough year for her, So shout out to Toma Lapaine. All right, well you got a positive note. Yes, and this comes from Arthur mel Robbins who's been on

the Breakfast Club before. She said, you don't let go of a bad relationship because you stopped caring about them. You let go because you finally start caring about yourself. Breakfast Club, you're finish her. Y'all dumb,

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