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club petition? Good morning Usa yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo. Good morning Angela yead monage day Sholomne the guy bees to the planet. Guess what day it is. Guess what day it is? Hum Kanye day today is Kanye was winding day, Okay? And that's I was just asking a lot of Kanye going on your interview. Was making the rounds yesterday. Yeah, I saw as well as my man Van lathing because whatever reason, Kanye took his

ass up to TMZ. Yes, and uh that was true Gemini stuff. Was that the same? It was that prerecorded also from the last time when he said they said, he came up there and played that. I think that was yesterday. He was on TMZ absolutely positively yesterday. That was live. Our interview was three weeks ago. It was what's the day? What is it? May is when I recorded that interview, So that was like what three weeks ago? Three weeks ago exactly. We had a lot to talk

about Kanye. You know what I did yesterday? I did see that movie, Uh, what's what's the name of the movie where there's no talking in the movie. It's it's like a solid movie that it's ninety percent of a quiet, scary movie. Or they'll they'll kill us if we talk about something like that. I seen that my daughter was talking about. I can't remember the name of it. It's so uncomfortable. But no, just respect to anybody that's overweight. But you could tell the overweight people in the movie

there and I'm not and I'm not. And the only reason I'm saying is and I hate so quiet. You can hit him, yes, no, no, you can hit him eating because it's quiet. So the only overweight people were eating because when you look around you you see who it is, and then you'd be like, yeah, listen, man, stop body shaming man, because I'm not. You got grown men like Kanye getting lightpol suction man because they don't want to get teased the way Rob Kardashian got teased. Man. Yeah,

that's sad man. He got LPO suction because of that. And and I wanted to ask you too. I'm not laughing. Does he have friends around him? What do you mean? Like Kanye have real true friends, but his wife, I don't know his best friend. I mean it should be, but there's certain thing is that my wife, My wife's not gonna allow me to get light bol section, especially after my mom died from a procedure. My my wife is not gonna let My friends are not gonna let me. But I mean, if you do all kind of what

I'm saying, if the family's into it, why not. Like I got a whole entire family does plastic surgery, So how can they tell you not to? Yeah? I guess. But like I got a friend that's overweight, right and I call him every day and encourage him, or you hit the gym today, what you eat today? Because I want him to lose weight the proper way, the right way, because I'm his friend, you know, I got another friend that has had a drinking problem. I call him every day.

You're good as everything, like, because that's my friend. Listen, you know y'all like to say I'll be fat shaming. So I'm quick to tell a person they need to go to the gym. You know, put that damn that pizza that's likes a pizza down. Okay, So I have no problem telling somebody that. But I've never heard a man say they got light persuction. Apparently that's the thing, though, because yesterday the only man who's gotten light post who was hitting me yesterday saying that's the thing. They say.

You can get like a little bit of fat taking out your man boobs, you get something taking out the mid area. I see, some guys could not even be really overweight, and we'll has some type of man boobs. If it's called something, I forget what they called. Yeah, but it's a really name for it. And they actually have to get surgery because no matter how much weight they lose, they'll still have it. All I know. The day is Kanye was Wednesday. What we're gonna be gonna replay, Yeah,

we're gonna play your interview with Kanye West. Then tis be joining us, and he had an interview, sit down, well back and forth conversation with Kanye as well, and that TI has had several back and forth conversations with TI as I've had several back and four say that slavery was a choice. He did. He did say that black people you just say. He did say that. I'm all right, I'm gonna be honest with you what I did yesterday. I had three interviews after this show yesterday.

One was in Brooklyn at the Juice Bar, and then I had one up here, and then I had one downtown. I worked last night until eleven o'clock, so I really didn't have to see I really havn't had a chance to sit down. So today's the day, and I know we're gonna play Kanye's Charlotmagne this morning, so I'll hear it. Then I haven't heard. He didn't. He didn't say it with charlotage, he said at TMC. But we'll talk about him, come back, definitely talk about it. And then we got

from then after this, Kanye out after today. Yeah, it's amazing. Today, I'm done. It's amazing. He's not. Nothing's coming out like he has it's not an album coming out. It's no Yeasy Sneakers very released. I thought he doesn't an album coming out, Doctor July. Yes, okay, yeah, after today, I don't want to talk about Kanye. Are we doing front page news or we're doing Kanye in frontage news? What we're doing? Which were doing front page news? Let's talk

about a new online dating literation for you. Okay, we'll get into that when we come back, and of course, all morning long. If you don't know what's going on with Kanye, will fill you in. Still won't know. After this, you will know. We'll tell you. I feel like I still won't know. You might be confused though, but you'll know. It's the breakfast clug of Morning Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlemagne the guy. We all the breakfast club.

Let's getting some front page news now that Cavaliers beat the Raptors last night. No, yeah, Cavaliers beat the Raptors last night. You got the wrong score. This says one thirteen, one twenty two, but I think it's one thirteen, one twelve. Last night Cavsley one oh. Golden State Warriors beat the Pelicans one twenty one, one, sixteen. Now let's talk about you're talking about Facebook. Yes, Now Facebook is getting into online dating. You just can set up a dating profile.

It'll be just be your first name, and it won't be visible to your friends and it won't appear in news feeds. And then they'll actually help you hook up with people that you're not already friends with, so it won't be like, oh, you know, one of the people that's already in your network. And that's all part of a broader effort to trying to get people to spend as much time as possible on Facebook. Having all these different services in one place. They also created marketplace where

people can browse items for sale nearby. That's going to compete with Craigslist and eBay. And you can also order to take out directly from restaurants like Chipotle, Panera, and Papa John's, just like seamless and grubhub do parst of all Facebook, You're late, Okay, people have been using Facebook as a day dating app. Yeah, it's just not officially, I guess stopping. You know, many people don't got a pregnant on Facebook, married off Facebook, knock it off connectedness,

people from the past. That's what else you want to talk about from part right? Well, I want to talk about the story in Brooklyn. Now, a Brooklyn jail guard, his massive hook shaped penis, which isn't circumcised, is what helped the Feds catch him for sexually assaulting inmates. Excuse me, what what? What do you mean? Explain? I'd like to hit more. Right. So, he was, I guess, forcing women to do things with him like perform oral sex and

dropping their pants and masturbating in front of them. Lieutenant Eugenio perett Euhenio Perez is the person at the Metropolitan Detention Center, and he's accused of forcing these women to give him oral sex. They said they were able to get him because multiple accusers came forward and described what his penis looked like. They said it was huge, They said it was hook shaped. They also said he wasn't circumcised. Now, one of the inmates testified, if it didn't stink, I

would have been all over that ish. She said the odor was pussy. What I'm glad they called him. You gotta clean that schmagma. Man, you out there, it's not circumcised. Hey, you wake up in the morning. Man with foreskin, man peel that thing back, take a Q tip to that thing. Man. Now. The woman who said that, she was jailed at the time on a drug charge, but she's been released, and she said he first approached her when she was getting

cleaning supplies from the lieutenant's office. That's exactly what he needed to clean his supply clean feet. And then she said she first embraced his hugs and kisses because she was lonely. She said, then he tried to push my head down so I could I can't say this, And then she said, I felt youth at that point, and I felt like I was making a mistake. I wanted to be touched by another human being, but it just

wasn't him. I just was lonely. It made me feel normal again a lot, because when you're in jail you feel dead. Imagine being in courting. Somebody says you'll meet steak in front of a whole court room. Well, I think there's a lot worse. Like he has to go to jail for law I too, So he would arrange

for them to clean on the second floor. He would expose his penis through the zipper of his pants, masturbate and then demand oral sex and then they said, according to all the different female inmates who testified, there was even a pattern to how he ejaculated into a paper towel and then he would fold it up and dispose it. Come on, all you uncircumcised brother man, you can keep your penis is clean? All right? Is spring spring cleaning

for your force? Getting pleased? Goodness? All right? And that's news. Get it off your chests eight hundred five five one, five one. If you're upset, you need to vent. Hit us up right now. Maybe had a bad night, whatever it may be, or maybe you feel blessing you when to spread some positivity eight hundred five eight five one or five one. Hit us now. It's the breakfast club. Go morning, the breakfast club. Did your time to get it off your chests, whether you're man or blast, so

people to have the same industry. We want to hear from you on the breakfast club. Hello, who's this jiggy called from Charleston. Let's up, broke, get it off your chair for three what was happening? So check it out? I got a dig at Walmart. Right, this is eligible for hiring, but they didn't call me back in it's been five days. Did you call them back. No, well, maybe you should do that, or maybe you're not getting

the job. You should right, No, you should definitely hit them up and be like, hey, I'm just checking in to see if there was any other information that you needed and to see the status of my resume, passed the background checking, all that, But I ain't get no call back the follow up. You ever heard of a follow up? Goddamn, it's your first job? No? All right, did your third teeth job? Listen? Go follow up? Bro? Stop playing? All right? All right, my goodness, you can

call us Hello, who's this? Hi, Fredrika, how we're here? Live? Hey? Fred my family didn't call me Freddy. By the way, I haven't been too much keeping up with the whole Kanye West being only some things that I've seen on Twitter and the whole TMZ thing or whatever. But I would like people to have the same energy that they had when Kim Galziac was like, uh, Plagy wasn't all that real. I would like to have the same energy with his brother talking about with a choice. Okay, you

think we're not. Definitely we're gonna have that same energy though, Rama, Yeah, I'm disgusted. Hello, who's this Hi, This Tnachs from Destroit. Hey, Mama, what up Chess? Yes, I'm here, friend, love and blessing. You know, there's so much negativity in the world, and ain't nobody got for that. I'd be feeling the same way all the time. That's why I keep it positive. That's all you can do, you know what I'm saying. Even when nobody else keeps it positive, you have to

keep it positive for yourself. That's what I say. I don't let anybody else dictate what my mood is gonna be. There you go, Mama, Hello, who's this? Ray Ray? Was happening? Ray Ray? And also I one talked about the whole Kanye situation today is Kanye, what's Wednesday? Go? All right? So, at first, I'm not gonna lie. I was on a little kind of like cancel Kanye trained at first, But after watching an interview with Charlotte Mayne the Guy yesterday with him and whole TEAMZ situation, I kind of feel

bad for Kanye. Now. I kind of feel like Kanye really does need some type of help. He definitely definitely need tell me he put his phone down. He needs some friends around him, He definitely needs I mean he told y'all, he all mad. He definitely needs a translated because he does not know how to communicate. But you know, like I like, I keep telling Kanye, you gotta you gotta measure twice and cut once when it comes to your thought, because I'm sure that you treat the fabric,

your fabrics better than you do your thoughts. You know, when you're design and clothe, you don't just go cutting up fabrics, do you measure you cut correctly. That's what he needs to start doing. Measure twice, cut correct And here I kind of knows how you talking about the whole how what he wanted to do in the future and stuff like that. But right now, I think, kan't you to worry about his mental state right now? I need to worry about Kanye right now? Maybe we need

to just think. All right, bro, but thanks for calling in. Got get that alrighty, Get it off your chest eight hundred five eight five one on five one. If you're upset, you need to vent hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're man, take it from you on the Breakfast Club. You got something on your mind? Hello? Who's this? Hey? Peace and blessing a young world. How you guys doing? Poor the

potty guy? What's up? Get it off your chest? Morning, Sean? What's happening? Hey, good morning, Charlotte Man, Hey man, I gotta give you some prids man, even though we don't get along sometimes, Why you know you don't get along with me? I don't be thinking about you? God, bless you? Sure? Sure? I really like I really liked that Kanye West interview. Man, thank you, sir, than you did a good job man, And I you know, I really like I appreciate Yea

even expressing himself. You know. Yes, Well, if you haven't heard it, we're gonna get it on. At seven eight m. Charlomagne talks to ya. Hello, who's this? What's about? Envy? They traff? Hey, hey, traf? What's up? Charlemagne? Hello? Sis, how are you saying? Why are you saying this? Charlemagne this morning? Traff? No, don't, don't, don't, what's up? Simmuidate Charlemagne? God, talk to me. I just heard him clap his head. He's a dope and I had him out. I don't

traf hit him listen, can we talk about Kanye. Let's do it, Kanye, what's Wednesday told? I told Charlomagne now we were gonna revisit this topic after the interview drop. Okay, And first of all, interview was the most tired, drawing, out, boring over so crap I've heard in a long time. Geez, definitely this and pieces of brilliant Kanye mean within the interview, but he was still rambling too much about rich person

stuff that nobody cares about. I enjoyed the piece about Jay, but got absolutely nothing out of the conversation around Trump, which leads me to you, mister Tarloman the guy. Yes, because this is probably one of your worst interviews that I've ever seen you do, and I've probably seen you do almost every single interview. I see a lot of people saying they thought it was an excellent interview and that he is Oprah travel. Let me ask your question.

You do realize, you do realize the interview was three weeks ago, right way before he put on the Maga hat and all that other stuff. Right, So, but the same about it is he still was talking about Donald Trump and you used to be a man of the people and you used to give every and anybody the credit they deserved because they deserved it. You gave Floyd may Whether don don't get to day for Trump, You gave Mary Mary don't you did today for Trump. But yes,

you didn't get it even draft. Did you ask him? Did you ask him who he's given don to today? Draft? Yes, exactly, and and all of the that's the thing that I want to say, like, don't give it to him now because you gave him the Charlemagne care package. No, I'm giving him giving I'm giving him donkey to day for a specific reason for him saying that four hundred years

of slavery was a choice. Just like I gave Mary Mary donkey today for a specific reason because she said that she likes Donald Trump because of his Christian views. Just like I gave Floyd Mayweather Don't get to Day was a specific reason because he said that grabbing him by the poop poem was just locker room talk. See, they're all specific reasons, but you don't listen. So let Charlemagne. Yes, because not only did you not give him donkey today,

he gave him to Charlemagne care package. You gave him the Lust Edition Charlemagne care package. Ye. Yeah, he gave himself Chalomane gave himself donkey today, bitch, yeah, because because I wanted to. I wanted to wait until people saw the interview. And I'm not mad at your opinion of the interview, but I mean, listen, really pays attention. I don't,

I don't. I don't think. I don't think Trav really paid attention because Travis acting like TRAVI acting like you're acting like I just accepted him saying that, uh he likes Donald Trump. You know that wasn't let me say this. Don't try to give him donkey today now because of his comments yesterday be barding slavery, because you should have got him the other day. He was beating around the bush,

no shade, but she was beating around the bush. So keep your donkey today and give you the person to credit who really deserves donkey today today, which is you. I gave myself don't get two weeks ago. You're not making no sendas now. I gotta take now. I gotta tell you to take your opinion and shove it up. You like this, okay, t goodness gracious travels shady this morning. Hey, listen man Travis and tighter to his opinion. Absolutely, all right, get it off your chest. Eight hundred and five eight

five one on five one. When we come back, I know we're talking, yay, Yes, you know we are. Let's talk about light bo suction. Let's talk about slavery and uh Kanye West. How do all those things intertwine? All right, we'll do it when we come back. Keep the lockes to Breakfast Club, Go Morning the Breakfast Club, DJ Envy, Angela ye Shlam mean the guy. We all the Breakfast Club. Let's get to the rooms. Let's talk Kanye. She's filling the team. This is the rumor report with Angela Yee

on the Breakfast Club. Well, Kanye went to TMZ yesterday and had some things to say. He was on TMZ Live and he, amongst many of the things that he said, this is the one thing that really really really went viral and struck accord and a lot of people and had a lot of us upset. And here's what Kanye said about slavery in his own words. You hear about slavery for four hundred years, for four hundred years, that sounds like a choice. It's like we're mentally in prison.

I like the word prison because slavery goes to direct to the idea of blacks. It's like slavery holocaust, holocaust Jus slavery is blacks. So prison is something that unites us as one race. Kanye having a terrible you don't know how to communicate with people. But Van Lathan, who is in the TMZ newsroom, responded, and here is what

he had to say about this free thinking. You're entiled to your opinion, You're entiled to believe whatever you want, but there is fact and real world, real life consequence. While you are making music and being an artist and living a life that you've earned, the rest of us in society have to deal with these threats to our lives. We have to deal with the marginalization that has come from the four hundred years of slavery that you said

for our people was a choice. Frankly, I'm disappointed, and brother, I am unbelievably hurt by the fact that you have morphed into something to me that's not real. Love that I understand what Kanye was trying to say. Now, Kanye went on Twitter and said, to make myself clear, of course I know the slaves did not get shackled and put on a boat by free will. My appoint is for us to have stayed in that position even though the numbers were on our side, means that we were

mentally enslaved. They cut out our tongue so we couldn't communicate to each other. I will not allow my tongue to be cut, so I guess that was a choice. Kanye versus the media is the modern day Willie Lynch theory. They hung the most powerful in order to force fair into the others. They can no longer stop our voice than that Turner movie never made it anywhere because it showed slaves revolting and understood and understand why my god

brother Puff caused his network revolt. If this was one hundred and forty eight years ago, I would have been more like Harriet or net. A lot of people say what they would have did in that situation. By the way, the universe has a plan. I knew that TMZ would be awesome. We are programmed to always talk and fight race issues. We need to update our conversation. The reason why I brought up the four hundred years point is because we can't be mentally imprisoned for another four hundred years.

We need free thought now. And then he says he's being attacked for presenting new ideas. And then he also says, I freed a thousand slaves. I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves. Harriet Tubman tell me quote. I mean he's acting like slaves didn't rebel. Slaves did. Rebels did revolte. Some slaves jumped off the ship because as killed. Morgan said, they knew that death was better than bondage. So I mean, it's

not like slaves just sat around and were slaves. I mean, yeah, some of them were psychologically imbonded. And you know you had those house and need girls who were just like, yo, I'm happy here, don't don't, don't rattle things up on the plantation. But plenty of slaves rebels now Marchaelamont Hill tweeted out, there has never been a moment in history

when black people didn't resist slavery. Some did it by jumping off ships, some killed masters, some ran away, some did it through everyday forms of resistant slave masters didn't retire. Our resistance led to our freedom. And then and I just kind of said that. But yeah, well, I'm reading other things that people said, and then another person and John Legend has been retweeting a lot of what people have been saying. Harriet Tubman never said that there are

freed a thousand slaves. This fake quote is actually pro slavery, since it implies that slaves deserved their condition because of ignorance or inherent civility. Now, hold on, that's the first time I saw that yesterday that Harry teld me never said that. I'm hearing. I've been hearing that quote my whole life from actually looked it up to and dollars. That's never been actually confirmed as a quote from her. I got, I don't, I gotta. I don't believe that.

I haven't seen that all that for the first time yesterday. I don't know if that's just some social media biers. I've never ever ever heard somebody say that's not But if you google it, you'll see that from years ago that people have said that quote is not a real quote. I literally hear people say that quote for years all right now. Kanye West also had this to say about liposuction while he was at TMZ, but I was drug the yot bro and I was addicted to opioids. Two

days I got off of opioids. I'm in the hospital. I had plastic surgery because I was trying to look good for y'all. I got liposuction because I didn't want y'all to call me fat like y'all call Rob at the wedding and made him fly home before me and Kim got marry. That's not funny, serious, that's sounds funny. That man has problems, man. He has either he's believing on y'all because I wanted I ain't want y'all know, Man, you gotta work on your security. He has a lot

of problems. Man. The man is being honest. Okay, I've never heard a man admit to having any type of lightbel sucks And apparently that's the thing that comes out here getting an ab sculpting. They're getting a little TV something that somebody had no idea. All right, is Ya was chubby earlier this year. I saw him in March. He had lost week. I just thought he was running into something and then you know, we gave way back fast. He told me it was the man that made him bigger.

All Right, you guys that we gotta keep it moving. I'm Angela. Yeah, that's your room report. All right, when we come back, if you haven't heard, we're gonna play the interview with Kanye West and Charlomagne. He taped it with three weeks three weeks ago, yeah, actually a week today. All right, we're gonna get that on now and then, uh, let us know what you think. Hit us up on social media and we're gonna get that on and we come back. Don't move. It's to Breakfast Club come morning morning.

Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Ye, Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. So three weeks ago, Charlemagne got a chance to sit down with Kanye West and to talk about everything. Kanye released an interview yesterday and we're gonna get it on right now. Let's get into part one. It's the Breakfast Club Goal Morning. The first question is how are you. I'm feeling good. People have heard about you in the news. Was Kanye West was having a

mental breakdown, So mentally, where are you? I think I'm in a stronger place than I than I ever was after the breakdown, or I like to say the breakthrough.

What do you think caused the mental breakdown. Fear, stress, control, being control, manipulation, like being a pawn and a chess piece of life, stressing things that create like validation that I didn't need to worry about as much, and you know that just this is the concept of competition and being in competition with so many you know, elements at one time on a race against time, your age, Oh yo, you're getting old, race against popularity. On the radio, Klik

got the song. Drake got this song on radio's playing the death Saint Paulo ain't playing. I could do that, man, take the whole I could take the whole interview talking about Yeah, it's interesting because you never you've been the guy that has always created the flow, not gone with the flow. So it seems like you were a little upsetting that you weren't a part of the flow. It

was weird. I was looking at you know, we're doing Sat poplo and the cultural impact is incredible, but I'm looking for other forms of validation when there's other frequencies and other currencies. So just because it's not playing on the radio, of course, we had you know, father stretches in the club and on the radio. A bit like it went to number one. You know, to put that same amount, if not more work into a piece of work. And then you used to it coming out like graduation

where everything is everywhere. You know, it's frustrated. And really, ever since the Taylor Swift moment, it just had never had never been the same connection with radio. It's like, whatever powers that be, it was much harder after that. And then also you know La leaving Universal, like you know,

he had that radio locked. So if you're an artist and you signed to a major label, you want to be on the radio's basically if you if you popular, if you pop him, you know, if you want the most famous people on the planning and people love your music and all the best artists in the world are coming to your concert and all friends is like, you know, snapchat themselves at the shows and you're selling merch out like that, it seems like, okay, radio should just be intacted.

It might be just a piece of information that I was missing that wasn't being expressed to me that I didn't understand because at the end of the day, someone's controlling it and I didn't I didn't understand it. But the radio con the radio element was just one of the factors. There's like the situation with my wife in Paris and all of the elements of like you feeling like, you know, helpless, You're feeling like what can you do?

A thousand you know, I had like went to Paris on that trip to protect her, but not protect her, you know, physically, but to go and just help her with her looks because she's in Paris. So I'm like, let me put my eye on it personally while she's out in Paris to make sure she bust ask you know,

just also like get fly. And one of the things that she said that she heard is that they were coming to robber and they had to wait till I had I had left and when I find it, and that the people have been strategizing and scheming on that for a long time. So when she probably got the Paris by herself, they were like, okay, this is our chance. Next, you know, I get off on the flight the next day and they were like, oh, okay, we got to like fall back. And then you know, when I left.

A couple of days later, I'm on stage and I hear that my boys. Kaya comes up to me and says, you know, your wife was robbed, and I at that point, I didn't know the whole element of the whole story of what was happening previous to that. You know, just one week before that or two weeks before that, I had done a fashion show and I was forty five minutes late, and they Lebron to me bro like men when Lebron went to like when Lebron went to Miami and it just killed him and like burned his like

jersey and all that. It's like I just downe the MSG young thug on stage, you know, and then go and plug in an iPhone with sixteen thousand people, everybody in the audience, whoever you want to name, and you know,

stream and live all this like a breakthrough. And as soon as I was forty five minutes late, I felt it was the fashion community getting the right to say there without saying it, to be like, yo, we know you come through stepping on next and all that and what you're doing, your approaches things and stuff, but if you get out of line, boy, we're gonna roast you. And it affected me because I'm an artist, and it

affected me like emotionally. It's like all these things were like almost set up to put me on mats to break me down the robbery, Like, I don't you know, I don't know where that you know, where that came from? The you know, was that a bigger plan, a bigger setup? You know? Also, just be on stage four times, and I mean four times a week, you know, you get exhausted up there. So he was mentally exhausted, emotionally exhausted, physically exhausted everything. Yeah. Yeah, did you go to therapy

at all? Because I feel like this is a lot to unpack and I'm sure you're to go to God for a lot of people. So it's like, who was to go to God? Go to? So I'm sure you had to go to some therapist. Nah. I use the world as my therapy. As my therapist, anyone I talk to is my therapist. I would pull them into the conversation of when I'm feeling at that point and get their perspective. Sometimes they'd be like, damn, I'm talking to yay, I'm not expecting to talk about this. I'll use you know,

I'll talk through things anybody that I'm around. And I put that as advice to people. It's like, use people around you as your therapist because they probably know more about you, Like a therapist is like does a crash course in ya and then comes it's like I want to give you, you know, some advice. And I'm not saying that the therapist of that. I'm just saying that I like just talking to acquaintance, friends, family, and you know, I'll keep them on the phone, you know, for forty

five minutes at a time, talking through things. It's like it's it's kind of narcissistic, you know, uh, talk about my problems using the energy even like just then being a sounding board and talking through it. So but when when when it comes to you know, I guess mental healthhold to speak, you seem to be in a good space mentally, So how did how did you get that you just talk through it with people? Or wasn't music we've seen returning to Twitter now just getting these thoughts

out therapeutic for you. Yeah, but I'm not even the thoughts that I'm getting down on Twitter right now and that you know, I think everything is therapeutic, but I'm not doing it as a you know, a form of personal therapy. It's just an innate feeling. I just I want to express I decided to use this platform to express some breakthroughs that I've had since going to the hospital.

What are some of those breakthroughs? You know, you said something about the fashion world and how you felt like when you were forty five minutes late, they tried to cut your head off. It's kind of the same thing with Taylor Swift when you got on stage and you know, interrupted her acceptance. It's like, do you feel like whenever you're in spaces where you're tolerated as opposed to celebrate it, they let they remind you of that. Oh yeah, you

get reminded all the time. But the reminders don't mean nothing to me anymore because I've broken it. You know, this is this is an erma's level existence at this point. You know, like you look at a birken bag, the way it's made, the more scratches on it, the more the more value it has. You know. So all those things, those pieces of the story have created who I am today.

And I wouldn't turn down anything like I always I would be thinking about you as I was recovering, and I always thought I'm gonna go and talk to Charlemagne first, and I just wanted to say like there was elements about going to the hospital and having a breakdown or breakthrough that was fired. It was incredible, the feeling, it was incredible, you know, saying well on the song St. Pablo, I said, I'm praying an outer body experience that happens so people can see my light and know it's not

just rapping. Right now, if you're just joining us, this is Charlemagne sit down interview with Kanye West. We're gonna get some more back on when we come back. This is Kanye talking about his relationship with jay Z. So don't move. It's a breakfast club one morning, the breakfast club morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlemagne the guy. We are the breakfast club. Now. Three weeks ago, Charlemagne

sat down with Geezy. They had a conversation about everything, sneakers, Trump, jay Z, his family, and we're gonna get that on right now. Check it out. The last time Kanye felt like he has something to learn every day. Every day I'm trying to learn something, and every day I get you know, I get afraid. I'm I'm fearful of things, and I just use bravery to overcome when I'm fearful of I mean the quote. It's the quote people always say, the wise man knows he knows nothing. I'm learning and

now I'm expressing some things that I felt. And if they mean something to you at this time, then great. If not, then you know, don't don't use them. So you know a lot of um, you know, I think me and um Jay's uh issue, my my issue. It just came down to information. I'm super hungry for information. I'm I need information more than I need validation, more than I need finance. I need like if I learned how to fish, then I can feed my family forever.

So I'm just constantly looking for the information information, How do I set up a factory? So you feel like Jay was tossing you money as opposed to give you information. And you know the infamous line on four four four is you know I gave Kanye twenty meal without thinking. He gave me twenty minutes on stage. You know what was he thinking? I think twenty mil without blinking, whatever

it was, he gave me twenty million dollars. That concept that you gave me, that he gave me the money, that's what frustrated me, because actually the money was he got from Live Nation. He Bright Nations managed me at the time. That's something normal that someone gives someone a touring deal. It was a touring deal. But the fact that it was worded that it came from him. I'm a very loyal, emotional, like artist person, you know, that made me feel like I owed more just the money itself,

for the fact that it came from him. You know, it just put me under a bit more of a kind of controlled situation. It's like, and I don't I'm only acting out of love. I don't need to be controlled. I just need to be inspired and informed and I can be the best Ya in that way. But if I have to, I gave you this on it and I don't have the full information of how it happened. Now that said, I think there was some love in that because on Jay's part, because he did have to

co sign for it. When the Live Nations and these different companies wouldn't co sign for me and I was in debt. Jay did have to go up and say I'm a co sign for ya. So the thing is, it's it's one of those ones that have you ever done something where you did something for someone that's positive, but it was something about the way you did it

that kind of like blew the whole thing up. So Jay did something that was positive, but the fact that I didn't receive the information in the right way, I you know, because I always feel like, man, I'm not hearing Hollywood, I'm not here, like my mom's past, I don't know who I can trust. I don't trust nobody.

And Jay was a big brother. Big brother. Yeah, I feel like both of y'all might have reacted emotionally though, meaning that like you reacted emotionally when you was on stage and you ranted and then he replied in a record. You know, that's not really his his character to do something like that, to put out like this is what I did for such as such. I mean, yeah, but he he did it in a brotherly way. You know, he could have went all. He could have released an

entire record or something like. That's just a bar. You could have could have went crazy, got every single piece of information as possible, all my life and stuff. No, the finances are you know, so um, even like when I tweeted I was in debt, that gave me power that I took my power back because it's like someone trying to say, like, Yo, if you say this, you're not gonna be cool no more. And it's like, man,

my financial situation don't make me. Yeah, I'm in debt now what and I'm still Yeah you did the minem and Amy, let you say it about myself before somebody else can use it against me. Yeah, that's what I call living your truth. Live your truth, so you know you live the truth, nobody can use your truth against you. Yeah. You know, um, when you and Jay that now we're good. You know we were tweeting. I mean we're texting each other. It's positive energy. Have y'all seen each other? I haven't

seen him, but I could feel him. Or you know what keeps what keeps brothers like y'all from just yo, come to the house, man, let's have a meal. Let's let's let's sit down and talk faith to face out of Eyecause every time I, you know, see him doing an interview, whether they would let him in whoever, he's saying, that's my brother, Like I love him. Like, so what stops you off from just face to face communication? We'll

do it sometimes. Also, like when you have like such similar personalities and people are you know, creating their own existence in their own world and their own simulation or whatever. You know, they need to do it on their own. Jay said, you went too far talking about his family. Do you feel like you feel like you went too far? What pends on how you look at it. If we're family, if we're brothers and we are family, then then it's my family. If we're business associates and this, then it

was too far. Got you, you know, respectfully? You know, um, you know, I gotta say I always hurt about them not coming to the wedding. I understand it was going through some things. But if it's family, you know, you're not gonna miss a wedding, you know. And I'm not. I'm not using this interview to put any negative things, but I gotta state, yeah, I gotta state my truth. Like and then that one thing happens and another thing happens,

is another thing, have another things happening. You just start come up with all type of crazy ideas in your head and stuff like why and it obviously it's me. I'm like wild our personality and stuff from like the cousin. You can't bring nowhere all this type of stuff obviously. Uh. But that's interesting about the wedding. Did they not come because you know when the press it was Beyonce they have a problem with Kim, or you know, they don't

like all the Kardashian reality show type thing. Or maybe now in hindsight, maybe it was because they had their own issues that they was trying to work out. What do you think it was? I'm not sure. I'm past it, but at the time I was hurt about it. Did you ask them? I don't think I've asked them that question directly, maybe talking through someone at worked with him and that kind of thing. But I think you gotta

address what bothers you. Hey, I think that's what might be causing that, what causes the breakthroughs, You know, when you're not asking the things that you want to ask, Like those are questions you can get answered for. Like some things you can't get answered for, but that one you can get an answered for. I don't think the

answer fixes it. True. I want to go back to something you said speaking about fixing something like, how did you, as a man forgive yourself for you know, you said you feel like you let your the wife down because you hired the security. How did you get over that, because that's not your fault. That's a chance. I mean, she wasn't here. I would never forgive myself, you know, it's just bucked out. When you're super high profile and

this celebrity, the concept of celebrity. You're like as famous as the president, but you don't have National Guard with you. You gotta your own, you gotta make your own like you know, community guard. This is a constant thing. Basically, the idea of security and the really relates to fame and this is that all that's like, yeah, especially with you know, social media and all these different things and like, oh, that's like my wife doesn't even wear big diamonds anymore.

We don't keep no jury, no money in the house, no you know, name, high art, none of that. We don't keep any of that any place, you know where our kids stay. Yeah, when we come back, we have more of Charlemagne sit down interview with Kanye' so you don't move. It's to Breakfast Club the morning. The morning, everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Three weeks ago, Charlemagne sat down

with Yate. They had a conversation about everything, life, family, music, sneakers, Trump, and we're gonna get three on right now. It's the breakfast club, the morning. The feeling. What was the feeling that made you say, you know what, I gonna meet with Donald Trump? This was the Yay that wanted to do something to change something. And I would meet with them today and I would talk about Chicago first, to

talk about some more things. We could eventually get into a lot of you know elements, but we start there. Do you think he cares about black people? That's fire because you used to George Bush quote against me. Do you think you get about black people? But listen, it's it's crazy though, because you got this whole plan, three hundred acres of land, you want to build a community on it. Why does the Kanye West don't need nobody? So that goes back to what we were talking about

with with Trump. You don't need to meet with Trump. You you yay, you didn't had a state of your own. I love real change. I love, you know, challenging the norm. I love I love people who don't love them. I love the fact that they're speaking up and everybody's just giving their opinions. Everybody's expressing themselves. I love I love that I've been waiting. I's like I've been waiting for

this moment in time. It's such like a yay moment in time and stuff when people are you know, my dad is an activist, and you know, my mom's activist who's in marches and stuff. I feel like that energy all coming to a head. You know. Now, I refused to believe that your mother would love Donald Trump. I

got difference opinion from my mom. True. True, But what about when you see like, because you know it's people that's watching this right now and they're like, yo, you know, Donald Trump is getting our family deported, and you know, like especially you right now, you've got this whole economic empowerment thing going on, but you got a guy like him who's clearly trying to marginalize and oppress people, people that look like you. You don't want to see people

like you come up? Can you still love a person like that? When he was running, it's like I felt something. It's like the fact that he won, like it proved something. It proved that anything is possible in America, that Donald Trump could be president of America. I'm not talking about you know, what he's done since he's been in office, but the fact that he was able to do it, Like,

remember my sid I was going around for president. I had people that was close to me, friends of mine, like making jokes, making memes, talking nass like, oh that was proven that that could have happened. Yeah, so I

get what you're saying. I felt the non conventional, you know what I mean, even from what we're doing in fashion, to me being a kid with the pink polos, to me being outspoken, to me being ostracized because of the Taylor Swift thing or the George Bush thing, or you know who I'm dating, who I'm marrying, what I'm talking about, Like, all of this is like an outsider thing, you know. So when I see an outsider infiltrate, I connect with that.

So maybe that's what you like the idea. Yeah, not necessarily the idea of Donald Trump, with the idea of an outside of infiltrating. Yeah, it's a time for the unconventional. I'm very I'm not a traditional thinker. I'm a nonconformist, you know. So that relates to the nonconformist part of me now, you know. But I'm also I'm a producer. I like to segue things. I like to take ODIs, chop it up through it like this hood. So what's the a version. The a version of be the Trump

campaign and maybe the Bernie Sanders principles. That would be my mix and stuff. But I think both had you know, you know, I needed you know, I hit the glass ceiling. Have you ever seen a bird flying to a window. They don't know it's glass. That was me when I hit that hospital. That was a bird flying into the window. And you know I could have, you know, not made it out of it, but I survived it. But it's um Are you scared of that happening again? You haven't

a breakdown or breakthrough? Nah, I'm happy it happened. I'm happy to see have gone to the other side and back. You know, there's some bulls when it happened. I do want to I want to speak on I want to point out the moment when you're in the hospital bed and you're next to your friend and you tell them, don't let this person leave my side, and they put you inside of an elevator and take all your friends away from you. That was the scariest moment of my life.

It's gonna drug you or kill you. Thought I was gonna get killed. And you know, my wife wasn't in town. So I told my boy Don, and my boy's kind like, don't leave my side until my wife gets here. And they have this moment where they're forced to leave your side. That's something that has to change, you know. It's like if a pregnant woman is, you know, delivering a baby, guarantee, whoever, the people, her sisters, the dad, they get to stay next to them to the baby's deliver. Not leaving my

wife in that situation. Yeah, hsp you you are paranoid to everything. You don't believe nothing. You're just seeing through all of the simulation. Everybody's phony, everybody's an actor all the ship. And then they make your friends, the only people you believe in, leave your side. I can't express to you like how traumatizing that moment is. And then you waked up drug out, so they put you on medication. Yeah, are you still on any now? Almost? Definitely what they

got you on. I ain't gonna say does the medication help? You don't, I mean, you don't want to tell us what it is, but does it help? It's an imperfect solution. Just calm me down. But there's a lot of ways to calm down. I don't want to calm ye yeah, well you the calm ya for jay v Yake. You know. Don't you feel like that picked a little bit of your superpower away? Though? All this power and being controlled and calm you know, X men really understanding how to

really use his power or Superman. That's me. This is like once the Kryptonite is gone, I got the confidence everything is possible, building acres, wraps, stadium tours, designs, companies, ideas to ignite the next generations. Like everything is possible, you know. And I'm just a vessel and that's my job in a universe as a servant to the world. I have to be me. I'm not as good as a servant if I'm not. Yay you are yea though

almost definitely. Do you feel like the lifestyle of your your your wife, the mother in law, like that whole family. Do you think that plays a role and how you were feeling like did it get to be too much? Because you're already a superstar, But then you take that superstar element and add it and it's just like when do you have privacy. It seemed like paparazzi is always around. Yeah, paparazzi can it can't stress you out. But it's all in the inner piece that you could find. You said,

you don't trust people. Do you trust? Do you trust your in laws? Because it seem you know, we look at the world and it seems like everything is the storyline. Do you trust that they won't turn your life and what you're going through to a storyline? Ah, And you know, of course I'm gonna give you a slick answer on that because you gotta go home. Fact. But uh like, right now we're writing part of the story just by

even doing this and speaking. I like the way that my wife communicates it, documents things, you know, as an artist, you know, I think it's good to document ourselves. Document are now see if we can recognize ourselves again in a different light, in a different life. What would college drop out Kanye? He was looking at pictures of Kanye, Now, what would he say? I think he'd be happy, satisfied, and he would believe it. You know how people say I wouldn't believe it. I always believed it. I always

know what it is. You know, this documentation, right Now this is just the age forty. This is a version of a college drop out. Yeah, we're standing on my first property. Yeah, so I'm gonna be one of the biggest real estate developers of all time, like some Howard Hughes was to aircraft and what Henry Ford was to cars, and just the relationships that I have with architects, my understanding of like space and sacred proportions. Just this vibe,

this new vibe, this new energy. Like I'm tired of the mc mansion's all the Spanish roof homes and stuff like that. Like whack bro, Like everybody house whack it's trash bro. I don't go to except for lessons like a Howard back In or something. It's like the one of the few architects that I like their home. I was gonna ask you, what's next, because yea, he's always predicted what he was going to be. So that's that's that's the goal. Yeah, We're going to develop cities. That

was Kanye West and Charlemagne, the guy. Charlemagne, you did that one three weeks ago. Three weeks ago, Yeah, April a team, all right, So the full interview is online, so you could definitely check it out when we come back. We have rumors and o't forget next hour, t I, You'll be joining us as the Breakfast Club come morning, the Breakfast Club. Listen this just oh Gosh Reports with Angela Angela Report The Breakfast Club. Well, first of all,

congratulations to Ti. Both he and John Legend have been given a Tony Award nomination for the SpongeBob musical SpongeBob square Pants the musical Bombs for SpongeBob SquarePants for music. Come on, man, TI had no idea who was in that, Okay, I was confunged when the going gets tough, okay, and John Legend wrote a song called I Guess I Miss You now. Chrissy said about John Legend. John got nominated for a Tony this morning for a song he apparently

wrote for SpongeBob SquarePants. Why does he not tell me when he writes SpongeBob songs? What else is he lying about? Are there other songs out there? So you're not the only one who didn't know. Now, Tia is going to be joining us this morning as well. And you know he did the song with Kanye yea versus the People, and Tia was representing for the people now, he posted, and I'm assuming he posted this yesterday after hearing what Kanye had to say about slavery being a choice. He said,

so listen, here's how I know I'm truly blessed. I have a great family who I know love me from me and would go to the end of the earth for me. I have amazing friends who I know ain't no snakes and wouldn't just tell me yeah, it's all good, just to stay on payroll. I have incredible children who idolize me and who hold me so far up in high regard, and I know without their unconditional love and respect, life,

as I know it wouldn't be worth living. So he goes on to say, I feel somewhat obligated to share some of that light with my brother Yay, because clearly him lacking it in his life has taken a toll, he said. But let's be clear, he said I and make no mistake about it. I will not, ever, for anything, sacrifice my blessings for nobody, even if I lose my life,

I'll never compromise my spirit. I learned years ago. It ain't no opportunity in music, movies, TV, tech, fame or business that's worth the thought of me losing any of that. And while I'm open excited about the thought of connecting and building, I can only help you until it hurts me and of message. So I guess that was him saying he did try to help and reach out to Kanye, but if it's hurting him, he can no longer do it and he has to worry about his own self.

Love that he's definitely not giving up on Kane. I don't think he's given up about it. And I love the fact that he said his family would check him, his wife, his kids, and that's how it should be. And that's why I was wondering earlier, where is Kanye, He's closest friends to be like, boy, you're bugging well. Like I always say, some things can't be plane, they

need to be experienced. Even though Kanye is a grown man with a wife and kids, maybe he does have to go down this path because the only person Kanye killing at the end of the day as himself. All right, now, dazz we told you about this threat that our dads made on Kanye West. Here it is again in case you missed it. Yeah, national alert, all the crypts out there, y'all. Kanye, yup, it's been I never see you in concerts. He's been I never see you around California staying Calabasas. What's the

crypt guy to your card? Kanye West? Up, that's what happened. You got a wrestled. But now he got on his door. Now, no, he got hassled by the cops here, he said in the video. Police just stopped me, asked me about this Kanye wish. But luckily I'm blessed. I ain't cut. I am through business. But the smashing and the dashing begin. Chris, did you call a police so dash? Come on, dad, dads, you gotta be smart. You can't make a terristic trying to get We consider the terroristic threat. I know it's

some type of threat. I know, trying to get somebody, go beat up on somebody, and then the police not gonna harass you. Come on, all right, anyway, I'm anti la yee. And that is your rumor? What if now that if Nike wanted to take Kanye out right now, right, imagine Nike wanted to take Kanye out, they sent somebody to blame. Who do you think they're gonna come for exactly. Oh my goodness, they're not gonna do that. But all right, Charlemagne, Yes, who are giving your dog? Oh man, we need Kanye

what's to come to the front of the congregation. We'd like to have a word with him, please, okay, all right, Well, we're gonna give it to him when we come back. Keep it locked. This to breakfast club, Good morning. Don't at the gate you get un you are, I'm gonna fatt and all that around your eye. They want this man's two dog and blowers. Man, they're waiting for Charlemagne to Topsy had to make a judgment. Who was going

to be on the Donkey of the day. They shows you the practice club, bitchy, Who's donkey of the day to day? Wow? Donkey of to Day for Wednesday. May second goes to mister Kanye West. I know, I know, I know what you're saying. Charlemagne. It's a beautiful conversation out right now with you and Kanye, and it's an hour and forty nine minutes long. It's been trending number one on YouTube since yesterday. Why would you give him

donkey of the day to day? I had people in my mentions on social media, texting my phone saying they don't agree with Kanye stands on Trump, but after watching the conversation between us, they had a better understanding of where Kanye is coming from. That's why I've been telling everyone for the past what two weeks, three weeks, just wait until Kanye speaks. Now, keep in mind, the conversation I had with him on April eighteenth was a couple of weeks ago, and it gave me a better understanding

of where Kanye was coming from. And I knew that they would do the same for you. I have empathy for people struggling with mental health issues, which he has been very open about, including him being on meds. And when it comes to him supporting Donald Trump, Kanye has no idea about any of Trump's policies, his ideologies. He doesn't any legislation that Trump isn't administration of implemented. All Kanye saw in Trump is a celebrity who is unpredictable, outspoken, uncouth,

and lets anything fly out of his mouth. Who do you think that reminded Kanye of? Huh? Yeah, himself. Okay, Kanye saw himself and Trump, and he said, damn, that could be me, even though it probably can't simply because Trump is whitening and Kanye is black, and I seriously dot they're letting any negro act like Trump, who acts like Trump get anywhere near presidential nomination. But don't listen to me. This is what Kanye had to say when

when I spoke to him. I don't have all the answers that a celebrity is supposed to have, but I could tell you when he was running, It's like I felt something. The fact that he won it proved that anything is possible in America. I'm not talking about you know, what he's done since he's been in office, but the fact that he was able to do it, Like, remember myself, I was going to run for president NA It's like, oh, that was proven that that could have happened. All of

this is like an outsider thing. So when I see an outsider infiltrate, I connect with that. It's a time for the unconventional. I'm very I'm not a traditional thinker. I'm a nonconformer, but I'm also I'm a producer. I like to segue things. I like to take ODIs, chop it up through it like this. So what's the a version, the a version of be the Trump campaign and maybe the Bernie Sanders principles that would be my mix and stuff. But I think both are needed. A Donald Trump campaign

with Bernie Sanders principles. Okay, Now, I after hearing that, you know, and then the very next week seeing him throw on the MAGA hat and express his love for Trump on Twitter, I was confused. Now, He said, why he wore the magaht. Let's hear it. If I had knocked up what I felt and I just thought, and it would have just never happening. When I wear that hat, it's like a fight for equality, Like, oh, I can

wear this hat too, now, a fight for equality. He said that he wore a hat to repurpose with MAGA means, I will tell you something that I have told Kanye. I told Kanye you can't repurpose something if you don't know what that something means in the first place. Magat is make America great again, which is cold for make America white again. Okay, A minority can never claim that because America has never been great for us, all right. America has never been great for women, especially women the color.

It's never been great for LGBT. It's never been great for the point this in franchise, it's never been great for Latinos, and it's certainly never been great for black people. Okay, so you can drop that at getting all right, and the hat can say make America a great period, If you're not trying to make America great for everybody's pointless. And that's why that hat can't be repurposed. And that's saying can't be repurposed. So to me, you know, Kanye

is saying he likes Trump. It ain't boy nothing, even though right wing media is running with the narrative because it helps him sell MAGA hats and normalize Trump's brand of bigotry because they can say, hey, our black friend Kanye West gets it all right now. I'll be the first to tell you after having this conversation with Kanye and speaking to Kanye pretty regularly over the past couple of weeks, one thing I realize is that Yay means well,

but he doesn't know how to communicate. He's a baby with a huge gun in his hand, and we all know how dangerous that can be. Right, But we saw that on full display yesterday when Kanye, for whatever reason decided to go to TMZ. He told me his period and made him do it the same way. His spirit told him to reach out to me to have a conversation. I can't knock the brother for how he feels, but I will give him the credit he deserves being stupid and stupid. It's exactly what he was when he went

on TMZ yesterday and said this. Don you hear about slavery for four hundred years? For four hundred years? That sound like a choice. It's like we're mentally imprisoned. Time that one more time? For me? There's one more time. Can you hear about slavery for four hundred years? For four hundred years? That sound like a choice. It's like we're mentally in prison. I understood he was trying to say. But the problem with Kanye West says he doesn't know

how to communicate. And when you on those platforms like that and you have a voice as big as Yay's, it's not about what you meant to say, it's about what you said. And what he said with slavery is a choice. You know, Kanye is really in the clothes right He literally is in calabashes with people in his factory making his own garments, And I told him he has to start treating his thoughts the way he treats

his fabrics. When you and they're cutting fabrics to make clothes, you've measured properly, right, It's a saying measured twice in order to cut once. That's how Kanye has to start treating his thoughts. O. Kay, Kanye is talking about psychological bondage, which was, is and will continue to be a thing for a lot of people. Literally today, my daily affirmation and my Joe Olstein daily bread book is if we're to become all God wants us to be, we must

win the victory in our minds. Okay, if you don't think you can be successful, you never will be. But that's a different conversation. See, Yeah, you can't talk about psychological slavery in twenty eighteen without properly acknowledging the trauma of four hundred years of slavery that built this country and systemically put us at the bottom of it, And

that slavery was not a choice. Okay, nobody enrolled in slavery, all right, Nobody pledged to be a member of slave for you, all right, that's not how this slavery thing works, all right? White you know, white white Europeans went on kidnapping raids, and then when that got too dangerous, local African rulers and black merchants delivered captured people. The trading

posters sell them in slaves. The Europeans like, I shouldn't even have to explain this kind of stuff, but I have to because Kanye goes on platforms like TMZ says this kind of rhetoric and some people believe it. And for the record, there was always black people rebelling against slavery. Okay, y'all think that line from Black Panther when Kilmaca said, buried me in the ocean so I can be with ancestors who knew death was better than bondage was fiction.

People jumped off those slaves not turning in. His crew was killing slave masters. Harriet Tubman led the underground Railroad. Then Mark VC was about to leave one of the largest slavery votes in history before he got rid it out by one of the slaves that Kanye is talking about that was psychologically in love with his master more

than his own people. So ye, Kanye's statement was highly inaccurate and This is why diversity matters, because you need people in the room at all these corporations to shut down any untruths like this, whether they come from white people or our own people. And Kanye is still one of us, by the way, but I think God Timz has one of ours in there to shut this kind of dangerous rhetoric down. This is actually one of my

closest friends on the planet, mister van Lathan. Can we here with Van Lathan had to say in reply to Kanye West, right there in the moment, immediately after he uttered that slavery was a choice, nonsense. I actually don't think you're thinking anything. I think what you're doing right now is actually the absence of thought. And the reason why I feel like that is because Kanye, you're entiled to your opinion. You're entied to believe whatever you want.

But there is fact and real world, real life consequence behind everything that you just said. While you are making music and being an artist and living a life that you've earned by being a genius, the rest of us in society have to deal with these threats to our lives. We have to deal with the marginalization that has come from the four hundred years of slavery that you said

for our people was a choice. Frankly, I'm disappointed. I'm appalled, and Brother, I am unbelievably hurt by the fact that you have morphed into something to me that's not real trumping clues bomb for Van Lathing. That's exactly what brother Kanye needed to hear in that setting, because all of us are telling Kanye the same thing in various ways, and it's simple. Kanye, you got to be responsible period.

Your platform too big, influence too great, and if you don't know how to properly communicate what you're trying to say, then simply shut up. Okay. Miscommunication is the number one cause of all problems. Communication is your bridge to other people. Without it, there's nothing, So when it's damaged, you have to solve all these ablem he creates. And Kanye, you have caused yourself a lot of problems to be continued. Please let him Mark give Kanye what's the biggest he

hall he ha, he ha. You're stupid, motherfu are you? Tom? I'm still not giving up on Kanye though, Okay, I will continue to talk to him. I will continue to share literature with him. I will continue to introduce him to people who I think can inform him, and I will continue to tell him when he's wrong and someone else who is not giving up on Kanye is about to walk in. That's right, Ta. When we come back, we gotta pray for Kanye too. Oh, absolutely, got that

man in your prayers. All right, when we come back, Tia, we'll talk to him. We'll have a great conversation. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building that people. It isn't interesting, I t I had to become the voice of the people over the past few years. It's an honor, you know. I mean, I mean, I've

always considered myself a voice for the voicelest. But you know what I'm saying to have other people besides we consider it, yeah, you know it's actually dope. But on some real live revolutionary activists, Uh, this is what you call when you want to shut down a restaurant or two. You know what I'm saying, man, I just want to make sure that the collective is properly represented as it and whatever I could do. Man, you know what I'm saying, on just on behalf of those who can't organize, mobilize

and do it themselves. I mean, I'm honored to do so. Oh you're still in love with the music with the blue forms of streaming and jeezy retire? Are you still in it the same way and feel it the same way? Absolutely? I do, Absolutely I do, And I mean I just ain't putting that that for real. I got the reasons. I got tons of music. Yeah, the damn trapp heel is coming. I got tons of music, and I record

every day. Why haven't you putting that out? Man? I'm really just waiting to feel like it for like the work that go with putting out an album. I got so many other things I got going on as far as, like you know, producing and developing television shows and film. Yeah, the hustle game. I was dedicated a lot of my time to you know, develop it and cultivating their talents.

I think people forget sometimes, you know, even even I would say myself and in it's hard because I'm a DJ and I was raised off for early tr until you hear the yay verse the people and then you the way you spitting and tell them what you're saying. What I said, what you said yesterday, But maybe that

was behind the scenes. What I said, you sound like old tr like you're not only rapping, it's like you're telling the story and I'm sitting hire mesmerized to the story where it's like you really like I know, you really meant it, but I felt it, like I felt like I'm right. Ain't even a scratch I did, but now I felt it even more with that record, I didn't ask the people. Yeah, man, I'm so glad that

you did that, because I've been so irritated. I'm like so irritated to the point where I don't even really want to listen to what he's saying. But then when I seen you was on the check, I said, Okay, I know ta, I ain't gonna let this slide because I can't see it getting on there. Talked about to make America great again. Yeah, you know, I gave me that feeling again. You know I ain't going for that. I mean, man, you know that the record actually happened.

It was It's the fastest record I've ever recorded in my life. You know what I'm saying. It happened at the end of a four hour long discussion we were at. I'm sure there were a lot more things you could have been saying on that song, Oh man, I mean, I mean, I said, but the discussion happened from the time I got there up to the time we started record. But let's talk about the discussion. You've seen it. It's Twitter rampage. And you hadn't talked to a minute. Yeah.

I hadn't talked to ye man since, um, probably since I got out of prison, like we did the record for No Mercy um, and then I hadn't you know, probably had spoke to him much since I probably got out of prison. It's like six seven year yeah or something like that. I mean, you know, I don't know if we may have seen each other in pass it h but I hadn't, you know, we hadn't had an actual conversation and you know, quite some time. So we happened to see each other at a hotel, an hotel

Libya La. I was there for me and he was there for a meeting, and he came over and spoke to me, and you know, um, you know, so then I meeting let's say, let's work there for a reason. At that time. You know, he said that to me several times. He said that to me. He's like, man, you are here for a reason. He said that, he's expressed that to me. So you know, I said, let's work. You say, yeah. Bet. He gave me his number and he put out a phone, and it was all that

because I never knew him to have a phone. But I remember like it was a big deal when we were recording in Hawaii that you know, now you ain't got no phone. He don't do no phones. But anyway, so you know, we changed numbers. He went back about his meeting. I went back about mind. Then that night, you know, I went to the studio and you know, after I left him, I started seeing the stuff. You know, it just started popping up. And then so bout the next morning I got on the phone with him again.

Another weird turn of events that it's not really relevant to the story, so I gonna continue on past it. That I hit him and said, um, he yo, uh, let me get with you. You know what I'm saying, I want to get with you whenever I can, And he immediately hit me back. It was like I bet I had my people calling and you know what set of the mean. And this is after the Trump did. Yeah, it was after all that. After it was right around the time when John Legend had hit him, and I'm like, yo,

what's going on? Bro? But I didn't want to say nothing over the phone because I have an opportunity to go see him. I'm not gonna, you know, I'll have a discussion over the phone. So I just waited until I got there. And I got there and he takes me into you know, his showrooms and you know, you see y'all the new Yeazys and the season privately Season thirteen folks team and and now I'm thoroughly impressed. You know what I'm saying. I congratulated. I know it was

working hard. I'm talking, I'm thoroughly impressed. I'm like, I want to be like, yo, when't that when them come at till you must stay focused in here on the mission. You must stay focused. And so we go on into the room. Well you know, everybody was sitting in his music and whatnot, and so he said, you know, he starts saying, you know what I'm saying, I got some things that you know, I want to play for you once to hear I say, I can't wait to do it the first. Let me speak to you right quick.

So we stepped up, say they have discussions, and that's when I was just like, Yo, what's what's up? Man? I'm sure you have a very illogical explanation to all of this, like what's happening? What's the punchline? And you give them the benefit of the doctors. It's Kanye's like, damn, like, what's going on. I'm sure you got something that's gonna make all this makes sense in my head. I just got to hear it, right, So let's go uh and

and he say, man, just feel free, you know. I just felt free to think whatever it is that my mind leads me to think without some monolistic, monolithic view of what society wants me to think. I'm like, what's up with the hat, bro? And he like, my subconscious spoke to my con and it just moved me to wear the hat like to like like, but yo, like you know the hat represent He's like, not when I wear it though, Yeah, he want to repurpose. He's like,

just like we did the word. We took the power from the word and now we used the word as our own. I said, yeah, that's not the same, that's not the same. Brom been great for my can't make it great again. And I asked him of all these rights, but just but just imagine, just imagine, like right now, I'm really like looking and I'm trying not the trip and plus his kin, he ain't. He doesn't seem like malicious up, not at all, you know what I mean.

It seems extremely sincere and passionate. Done. Nah, don't seem like it's nothing he doing like man and man Jill woke up on some one day, not now. I didn't get no signs and no, you know what I'm saying, No inebriated state of man about politics? Man, what's going on when it comes look man world. I don't know, man.

But but what I do know is I asked him, Oh, and then wait a minute before I asking this, he said, Yo, you know this is just like I went out on tour with Taylor Quale and wore a Rockefeller chain and they boomed me when I came out on stage for wearing a chain. I was a backpacker like as far as my style, but being flying flashy as that type. It wasn't accepted at the time, and people had to come around. I say, bro, do you really think that it's the same thing. He's like, yeah, wow. I say, no,

that ain't the same thing at all. You know, as they say that, I say, well, look, man, have you thought about the people who supported you that you hurt when you put that on? And then he looked different. You know what I'm saying. He looked at me kind of like I could see an epiphany, you know he was he was like, hurt someone for having my own opinion.

I say, yeah, people believe in you and they see you as a certain way, and then you go and they support you and you support someone who goes directly against them. It's like you're supporting the enemy. So do you think I ain't feels like no, I didn't really. I didn't think about that, but he would. But I can see in the face he would like, I don't want that. Ain't what I ain't meaning to do that, you know what. I don't want to speak to him. But he actually hit me and said, hey, man, till

I said I'm hurting people? Am I hurting people? Yes? What do you think it is? What do you then Chobe hear me and say, hey, if you would, Yeah, you talking to him whatever you say, keep saying it was getting through, but can't responses from everybody. What do you think he listens to that yet to his superpowlersis weakness because you gotta think people telling him what he can't do right and then him keeping them keep pushing and making It's what that's what gotta Jesus walk. Yes,

nobody was doing the song like Jesus wal everybody. I told him, man, you tripping with that one? He like, Okay, watch this. You know what I'm saying with the same resilient energy that. But then he when he say his subconscious talked to his conscious and it moved him to do something like I disagree with it. But the lad thing I'm gonna ever do it tells somebody not to listen to themselves. All we got more with TA when we come back. Matter of fact, let's get into his

joint with YA right now. This is Ya versus the people, Kanye West TI. It's the Breakfast Club, Good morning Pinning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Ye, Charlomagne, the guy we are the Breakfast Club. TI is in the building. Now TA talking to Kanye. What is he not seeing? Like,

what is blinding him? I mean, I don't even think he's even challenged this idea of this idea has been challenged aside from when it hit the air, like the fact that it moved me and none and I refused, we as the Black delegation cannot afford to lose, to keep it out. I'm keep it out with a thousand and That's that was my Like, that was my approach. I'm like, nah, hell Na, we can't. Nah, man, we can't do that. And I know he's influential, but I

didn't realize how influential. People crying over it, like people literally one he is our Michael Jackson, like just period, and I feel like the same consideration we get Michael Jeff. First of all, we talk about Kanye West. Yes, it's

very very, very very minute. I'm talking about a minuscule percentage of the population of the earth that speaks the language of Kanye West, right, the things that cover to his man once it hit the al it probably don't sound the same to the person every mon listening to it as it did in his head. So he needs kind of like a translator, real like he needs somebody around him who he could say say stuff too, and then they can say what he's saying. Is he trying

to do this? If you just take seconds of him speaking and play it sounds preposterous. But if you listen to him overspand for hours, you understand. You kind of understand his logic and where he coming from. You don't agree with it. He says, I love trump You don't mean he loved Trumpet policies because kind of like I love fried chicken, you know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. It's kind of like I love Henderson, you know what I'm saying. He don't think of him

as a person. He's thinking of about yeah, the thing, whatever that force is. And then he say, well he has dragon energy. I have dragon energy. That was like the beginning of the conversation, right, So I'm just hearing him through all these parables and like the man speaking and kind of like riddles, and you know, because he can't really explain he can't explain this going on in his head. But the more he talked it out, he

kind of get around to it. So by the time we had sat down in the room with everyone else. He kind of got around to trying to like, man, he could kind of convey because I said that, because he said, well, I don't agree with everything. He said, I don't agree with half of the stuff. He said. I said, okay, well what part do you agree with? Right? And he said, with a thought of coming from nothing and nobody says you can do it and you become

the president? Was he nothing? No, he didn't really come down, in the word of the world of politics as lesser than that. He was a reality star. You know what I'm saying, Like, don't Trump to be equivalent to Chris General becoming the president of the United States America? So how did it end? You said? That was like, so how did the end that he finally get it? Said man, Man,

I mean I got him to. We had him to at a point where he was like, well, look, maybe I should just change something on the head and make it my own. I said, yes, yes, yes, that's what you should do. That's it. And did he say but no, no, no, know, that wouldn't get me. What what that wouldn't prove my point? Is what he said. And I don't think he understand the optics of the situation because he don't he don't understand how diet this situation. He's nothing about Trump's policy.

He's so yeah. I asked him if I said, hey, man, what's so? How you feel about the travel bad? He said, what's the travel back? Doesn't affect him? And you know what I'm saying. So I say, come on, bro, you can't do this. And you say, you leading with love? If you love, and this man's hurting all the people. What made him so much worth worth so much love to what it caused these people so much pain? And then he sat down. I ain't figured that out. I

gotta figure that out. And then he started thinking. And then then he was like, but if h you know what I'm saying, Like now he's trying to reconfigure his approach. He don't know the things that we know because he's removed himself from society to the point where it don't reach him. He said, he just started watching CNN. Started watching. He said, even when Trump, I mean Obama was in the White House, he never watched in that or nothing. He said, he just started watching the end. No, no,

it actually makes it more dangerous. The fact that you're uninformed than you're using your platform to spread this. Now, the genius of them said, all right, well let's do a song like that. How did the song come about? Man? Because we were talking for four hours about the same thing. I have never but it was this very enlightening discussion. I feel like, you know, I learned a lot about him, about his commitment to personal growth. He's like, man, look, man,

just give me a minute. I'm feeling something. I'm working. Let me figure out what it is. You know, don't be so quick to just cut me out. I'm not a white supremacist. I don't agree with white supremacist. I say, but you're supporting you were wearing the flag. You know. What I'm saying is like, but imagine what a white supremacist thinks about it. When I wear it. He'll want

me to tell take it off. And I'm like, well, doing a favorite, you know what I mean, Just take it out because we want you to take it out here. And then he's like, man, maybe you want me to take it off and then want me to take it off. It's enough to bring y'all closer together. I'm like, man, listen, how did the song coming about? Who's that deal. Was it?

Like Okay, yeah, well, I mean, you know what I'm saying, Like I was saying, man, so you know, we got to you know, to the to the point where we've been going back and forth for quite some time, and we would start talking about music. He played the Scoop scoopage boot and as it, Man, you're just toying with people. Now you gotta stop. And he's like, nah, man, We're like, what if I go boot boot Man? When I heard it, I said, what is this? And he told me it

was a reponstraction, bro. But look though, I think the shock of the people in the room every time he played it is what made him keep it, I think. And then you know, hey, have y'all ever heard y'all y'all see that that that Dave Chappelle stand up the one way he says, uh, he says, you know the reason why I really wanted the Quick Company because I'm too demn good at you know what I'm saying. I could say any Joe, any punchline, and you know y'all

gonna laughing. I feel like that's how Kanye feels anything what I'm saying. I can make any song y'all gonna like it. So it don't matter what I do. I'm nothing. I ain't pushing myself. I'm not bringing the best out of myself because anything I do you accepted and love it. Because people were like, I love this track. Yeah yeah, But I'm just saying, man, man, that Scoop Scooby it's gonna be a genre now. It's gonna be a bunch of Scoop Scooby do booby booples. I don't know what

I could do without it. I feel like I did not care for it. However, he played some others is completely like jamming on the one, you know, so he played that first one for a reason because he could have played any of these other songs that I heard that was jamming like a month. And then afterwards I was I think I asked me if he had any beats or something like that, and he was like, well, I got this one song, and you know what, I'm already kind of saying my part. Maybe we could, you know,

it's kind of went side it. Maybe you could do your part in between my parts. And I was like, all right, cool, But then when I started doing my play, he just erased all of it. Started from the top and it only took about thirty thirty to forty five minutes. And that right, It's interested our guard worked up because when I heard the record, I was like, everybody gonna think this peblicity is not yeah, because I mean, I'll just recorded it last Yeah, he released it in twenty

four hours. You didn't know he put it up. I didn't know. See I did the song, right, I'm thinking after I leave, he gonna play the song bad. He's gonna hear me talking. You know what I'm saying. I'm gonna still be talking to him while I'm gone. Yeah, and then he gonna hear what I'm saying. He's gonna like that. He's gonna erase it. And then and his man put the song out the next day. He can't give you a heads up or nothing to Noah, hen't tell me then. But I mean, I don't know if

he put it out. He said it got leaked, So you know, all right, when we come back, we have more with TI. Usually we do the rumors, but tis here we're talking about a lot to don't move. It's to Breakfast Club. Good Morning, the Breakfast Club. DJ Envy Angela yee, Charlomagne the guy. We are the breakfast club. Now TI is here. Usually this is where we do rumors, but TI is here. So before you leave, TI, who

have been the trap music? Come on, man, come on man, while you ain't listen man, let me ask you a question. We need not ask questions we already no the answer to you did the word trap had never been coupled with the word music to make a phrase before August nineteen, two thousand and three. Nobody can ever show you anyone saying trap music. You can say people were talking about trap, people were talking about Syna Drew. Listen, man, people were

playing electric guitar before rock and roll. But that didn't make it rock and roll. We made it rock and roll. Said this is rock and roll. You see what I'm saying. So I think that you know that is that's a frivolous discussion when we have bigger fish to fry. Excuse I have bigger fish to fry. I think that my purpose is greater than talking about who created something that I know I created and and I have you know since transcended. You know what I'm saying. But Jeff, I'm

gonna give you an example, let me match you a question. Okay, what's the number one phone in the world right now, what's everybody's faith phone? Okay, I phone? Now, as great as the iPhone is and as much as everybody like it, you can never say this is the first cell phone, right You can never say that. You can't take away from the motor roller flip floone. You can't take away

from the next church. No matter how much you love this I phone, man, you must pay homage to what led up to because the reason the I phone became the I phone it because they didn't have to go back and research all this technology that all these other phones before them had done. Same thing. Hell, if I hadn't done what I done, it would have at least taken you a whole lot longer or you know what I mean, to get where you and it wouldn't be the same. It just wouldn't. I think you made it

a genre. It just wouldn't. I mean I didn't create I mean, that's anything that happened after that is under that period, and that's that on that. But I will say it's interesting because I find that there is a common type of people who have this argument. You know what, I'm saying, it's a common kind of like thread that kind of binds them. And y'all remember the wire, right. You got some cats who are more fond of Avon Barksdale and his methods. You have some cats who are

more fun a stringer bell, you know. So cats who feel like they mow Avon Barksdale. You know what I'm saying, Grid, Me and the gutta get it down. You live dirt under your fingernails, and you know what I'm saying, keys with the blood stain on it, and know that you know what I'm saying. Just keeping it real. You know, those cats, they tend to go over that way with

the other guy. And the cats who feel like we have an elevated level of success that allows us to diversify our portfolio and not have to, you know, u subject to ourselves to such inconveniences like life in prison or casket, you know what I'm saying. And we take this and we build upon it and grow and take it to something else. And those people kind of air on the side of me. So you'll never convinced Avon Barsdell supporter that stringer bell is you know, more effective.

That's just like a principle within you. So if that's what you act, then that what you act. But facts facts, and that is that you play them dough boys in the traffic. Mo. I'm serious, hey man, I can't the word thing I could do. Man, It's just I sound stupid trying to convince people or something so simple like if I tell you, if I try to tell you, hey man, the sun is outside shining. The sun is shining. That's what's lighting the whole thing up, and you like, no,

it ain't. The more I argue with you about something so obvious but dumber I get. So I'm gonna let them have it. Look at I have elevated the discussion to come to you versus the people. That is the discussion right now. This discussion has already paid. We've passed that. Donald Trump Trump, what about him? He comes to Atlanta and he says, uh, I would like to meet with one of the leaders of the Black Dela get the

Black Order, Harris. I just would like to have a conversation to see if there's anything that can be done in the community. And would you have the conversation if I could bring fair come with me. Oh okay, I'm gonna bring somebody smarter than me. I ain't either him or John Lewis, John Lewis, Andy, Um, somebody got to come just to make sure just going the way, you know what I mean, because I ain't, Because you gonnahea, he gonna have somebody there. You know what I'm saying.

He's gonna have somebody there that's probably giving him the low down on me and what I'm saying. So I'm gonna take somebody with me, and the conversation before anything started, hold up, First of all, what's with the blame, disregard and did respect to my people? Let's talk about that. We can't move forward to do nothing together. I can't even look at you out of eye. We can't. If it ain't a mutual respect, then we can't go nowhere.

And you've been did respect enough from the jump. So what's happening and how he answered that gonna depend on how the rest of the meeting go. If he walks in with a hat, you smacking the hat off, No, that's a soul literally take no hell no like a picture, fuck no photo. We had to get something done. It's real. You let the people know that. Look, I'm going to meet with this man. Yeah, I would, I would, but I ain't going by myself. Everything that I say happened,

somebody else gonna be able to say that what happened. Absolutely. I ain't going by myself because that how you set you up. He'll come out and say, yes, he told me that we were buddies and that we were going to eat chicken wings at the JR Cricket later said nothing like that. Hey listen, man, hey, y'all like and another thing I didn't mention two things. Two more things that I learned that I didn't know before I got there. I didn't know the dead Man did the seriou about

running for president? Yes he is did. That's dead ass in New York translation seriously that a time? Did serious understand that bank hid his face serious? That's that bank hid dead ass beat serious the bmas. Y'all forgot that. I didn't take him serious, man. But before I knew he was dead serious, because before it was Kanye twenty twenty man, Kanye twenty twenty four. He was really gonna run, spend his own money and really do it his best. Go right up again, yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah. If hey,

if it's him with Trump. I'm with him all the way. I'm with him all the way, and see that when he ain't seeing. But maybe you do. Now, what's the other thing you said? He said it was two things. Oh and how how much how affected he still is by the death with his mom. Absolutely, he's extremely He's still affected, but it doesn't show. And I think another thing.

He'd been hermited for so long, and he removed himself from I guess normal social interaction so much that I think it feeled to me, you know, he just happy to be like, you know, talking. I've talked to Kanye probably four times in fourteen years, and I've talked to him maybe every day since I left him, unless you know, he reaching out, you know, So who are we to

be like, Yeah, I can't do that. If anybody needs my help and they are worth helping and they have shown that they're willing to put in you know, the word to help themselves, I ain't can't turn my back on that. We know, you talked somebody off of goddamn building, you know. Yeah, But I mean even if you decide that where you want to go, if you want to sit at the table, we need somebody who's gonna sit at the table. I mean, that's the important part. You can't.

We gonna represent us. We gonna represent us back, I'm saying, we gonna represent us. You know, they can't make us do that we don't want to do because they got to bring it back to the front line. You did. You know what I'm saying. What you say, No, we ain't doing it. Take that back, take that back truth zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero. Huh yeah, tell him the start thew you know what I'm saying. Appreciate you for joining us, right o. Man, love,

it's the breakfast Club. Good morning,