Morning. Everybody is j n V Charlemagne the guy. We are the breakfast club out co host B Scott is here and we're opening up the phone lines eight hundred and five A five, one oh five one. We were talking about something we've seen in the Business Insider where they're saying the majority of Americans now think a college degree isn't worth it, and they said fifty six percent of Americans now say a four year college degree isn't
worth the cost. And I was saying that I got my degree of course from Hampton University HBCU shot everybody at all at Hampton and LUMS. I would say that I think that students should take some time off before they go to college. And I'm gonna tell you why. When I went to college, and as most students go to college, a lot of them go to pass. They just want to get their degree and get out. And that's what I did. I got my degree and got out.
But now realizing there are so many classes and courses that I should have really listened to because it would have helped me in you know, in life, in life, you know what I mean. And I wish I could go back to those courses and I tell my daughter who's in NYU now that you know, take those classes serious. Just don't study to pass, study to actually learn. But it was accountant, whether it's business, whether it's marketing and management. Now,
I didn't get my degree in communications. I got my degree in marketing and management, which I use in my career because I always said I was going to have money going into high school. But I just needed to know how to keep it, how to invest it, and that's what college taught me. But I tell kids to take time off when I tell kids what courses they should take, because I think they got to figure out
and learn what they want to do. You know, I think if you take that time off, maybe jump into the workforce a little bit, then you can really understand what you want to do. Because most people don't know what they want to do. They go college, They go to college and just try to figure it out. That's because you know, I tell my daughter, my daughter's fourteen, now she's a freshman, I'll tell her now that you know, even if she doesn't know what she wants to do.
Even even though she does, I think going to college is a good thing to do until you figure it out because yeah, because you're not wasting time, like at least you'll have a degree after those four years. I didn't go to college, you know, even though I am a doctor honorary doctor from South Carolina, but I didn't go to college. But I'm just saying I feel like that four years is it's a good way to deal with your time, but productive courses that you don't like.
My daughter went from real estate to be she wanted to be an attorney, that she went back to real estate, so she doesn't necessarily know what do you think? I mean, I can only speak from experience, so you know, I went to the University of nor Kaline Choppa Hill, and for me it was something that was definitely needed because it gave me a basic working knowledge of the world. And I feel like a lot of people could benefit
from that. I do believe that just knowing just fundamentals of just like photosynthesis or just like certain things, just allows you to appreciate things in a whole new way. And I do believe that you should use college, as you were saying Charlemagne, to kind of explore because that's
what the general requirements are. So the general requirements are all over the place, and as you explore different little taste of things, you can then say, Okay, I want to go deeper in that, and that becomes your major.
And my fear is that if they were to take time off and they go and work, then they're going to start getting real life responsibilities, which means you're buying stuff with the money that you're making in this job, and so that means you got to keep that job to keep these things, and they prevents you from ever going back. So every thing about exploring is you're exploring
by paying a bill. Like you look at certain colleges of forty fifty thousand dollars a year and you're exploring spending money and might not you might be taking the wrong classes that you don't like. Like there's a lot of people that or six years seven year college students because they started thinking they want to be something and then they wound up figuring it out, that's not what
I want to do. And then by the time they graduate, they have three hundred four hundred thousand dollars worth of debt that they got to pay off and now it takes some twelve years to pay off. Right, Like what be Scott said, though you know, if you don't go to school, you probably getting the habit of just working. Yeah, you know. And I also think that sometimes you can tell it, like when people just don't have a basic knowledge of stuff, you'd be like, oh, okay, I get it.
You just you skip some courses. Let's go to the phone lines. A lot of people are on the lines. Hello, who's this Good morning, hey Bernard, go on and talk to us. All right, So I just wanted to touch on the I word out of college. I've thought about eleven years and so when it comes to the affordability, colleges are very but it's also public schools that are much more affordable. And in some cases we qualified for like programs but actually do an entire um not sure
degroup for free without paying anything out of pocket. It's usually when we get to those masters degrees and gradual program or those private schools that folks are paying a ton of money and not really seeing that return on investment. Okay, I won't say that too. You know the bad thing and this is why we always talk about, you know,
free education. My mom worked extra hard and my dad work extra hard to so that I wouldn't have huge college bills when I graduated, right, I think they pay like seventy percent of my college to which and I had to pay thirty percent when I graduate. So for me, the biggest thing for my kids, I have six, is to make sure that you have six, six kids twenty one, eighteen, nine eighty six in a one year old. That's impressive.
But for me, I want to make sure my kids don't have any college bills, so I work extra hard to make sure when they graduate they start from zero. You do have to work extra hard with six kids. Yeare six kids, you can see six more. I was like, I got one wife and all my kids from one woman. That is true. You know. You know what that was? What college do that? I don't hear y'all talk about enough. Don't you learn other things outside of just getting a degree,
like meeting people, networking skills? That was another thing, you know. Me coming from New York, all I was about was New York. But when I went to college, I had a roommate from Mississippi. I had a roommate from Ohio. I had a roommate from New Orleans. I had a roommate from Jersey. So it opened me up, you know, doing music to all those different areas of music and things like that, and in most cases, it's a safer environment to a spot different things and learn how to
interact with people than the real world. So it's like a buffer, it's like a step right before you on your own. And that's why I'm not knocking these people who say that it wasn't worth it to get a degree. But are you just equating worth to monetization, because I'm sure you probably got life lifelong friends, Like my wife has her two best friends or from college, you know
what I mean, they're friends with twenty plus years. And I also think that you touched on something that was powerful you said in terms of a lot of people go to college just to pass. Correct, it's about why you are there. But if you're there to learn and actually get something from the experience, you're going to have a different result than someone that's they're just to pass. That's true to Like, I didn't want to go to college, right,
I was a DJ. I wanted to do music, but in my family, I was the first person to go to college in my family. Wow, So my parents were like, no, you're going, Like they wanted me to go to more house and I was like, more houses too far, like they wanted me to go. So for me it was I was doing it more for them then for you're not a more house man. You went Hampton was good for you. I'm a Hampton man, sir. Yeah that's yeah, yeah, yeah, it's nothing wrong with being an I can call some
my more house people. Do you think's a more house man? But I thought the Howard Howard, Oh my god, I'm about to fight you in here. I'm about I'm about to fight you a here my money. I've been fighting my whole life. Now five a five five one. We're talking about college this morning. Now, we were saying a majority of America's now thinking think getting a college degree isn't worth What are your thoughts? And they're saying fifty six percent of America's now say a four year college
degree isn't worth the cost. Let's talk about it. It's the breakfast club the morning