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How Do We Legislate Hate

May 25, 20221 hr 26 min
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Today on the show we had to address the fatal tradegedy at Robb Elementary yesterday. In addition, we opened up the phone lines for our listeners to share their thoughts on the tragedy and if its possible to legislate hate, after Charlamagne gave "Donkey of the Day" to the U.S for not doing better in protecting the people. 

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And Charlomagne the guy my dad as the breakfast club is. I love coming here. I'm never not going to come here. You guys are good to me, and La tie them away was gonna be good deal. A lot of people in hip hop generation. The breakfast club is where people get the information on the topics, on the artists, and that aspect radio still point. So breakfast club on my name, come on, respect you all right morning? Everybody is DJ Envy Angela ye, Charlomagne, the guy with all the breakfast club.

Let's get in some front page news. All right, let's get right into it easy. All right, Well, let's talk about what we know so far about Savadar Ramos. He was the suspected Texas school shooter. We still have to say suspected. An eighteen year old gun in there saying that he allegedly shot and killed eighteen school children and two adults at a Texas elementary school. Now they're saying before that happened, he messaged a stranger I'm about to just hours before he opened fire. And this was at

rob Elementary School in Uvaldi in Texas. He attended the town's high school, and they said he reportedly shot his grandmother before driving to the school armed with a handgun and possibly a rifle. And a manager at Wendy's told The New York Times that he worked there for a year and that he quit about a month ago, that he always kept to himself. He also allegedly tagged a stranger in an Instagram picture of guns, and that account

has been taken down since. But according to these reports, he said what he said, You're going to repost my gun picks to a girl on May twelfth, She said, what your guns got to do with me? He said, just wanted to tag you, and then he messaged her I'm about to And then she asked about to what, and he said, I'll tell you before eleven. He said he would text her in an hour, and he urged

her to respond. Now here's what one student had to say, his name is Jordan, about what happened during the incident. We just hear all kinds of gunshots going off like NonStop, like clowns, daily gunshots and the world here all scared, what on the ground, fearing for our lives. And these are mostly third and fourth graders at this school. Again, I told you it's an elementary school. In you, Valde, Texas. And here is what Joe Biden is about the shooting

immediately after another massacre Valde, Texas. An elementary school, beautiful in a second third fourth graders, And how many scores of little children who witness what happened, see their friends die as if they're on a battlefield. For God's sake, they'll load the rest of their lives. Parents will never be the same to lose a child. It's like having a piece of your soul ripped away. There's a hollowness in your chest. You feel like you're being sucked into

it and never going to be able to get out. Suffocating. It's never quite the same and is m There's nothing that makes you feel more helpless than this. As a parent, absolutely, I'm saying we try to keep our kids safe. We try to keep them in safe spaces. School is supposed to be a safe space, you know. And I don't have any answers to how you slow down any of this, stop any of this. I don't know how you legislate hate now. According to sources, the gunman first shot his

grandmother at a separate scene. Authorities initially said that his grandmother was killed but later they said she's in critical condition. He then crashed his car outside of the school. He came out with an AAR fifteen style rifle. According to multiple law enforcement sources, they do have that rifle body armor that he was wearing in numerous magazines. He was engaged outside the building as he approached the school by a school district police officer who was shot by the suspect.

After that, he entered the school and allegedly opened fire, and mainly the students who were killed were third and fourth grades, as well as one teacher. Altogether, at least nineteen children and two teachers have been killed at rob Elementary School. Here is what Vice President Kamala Harris had to say. I would normally say in a moment like this, we would all say naturally that our hearts break, but

our hearts keep getting broken. So I think we all know and have said many times with each other, enough is enough. As a nation, we have to have the courage to take action and understand the nexus between what makes for reasonable and sensible public policy to ensure something like this never happens again. To the people of Vivaldi. Please know that this is a room full of leaders

who grieve with you, and one last thing. Golden State Warriors coach Steve Kerr, ahead of the Dallas Mavericks game finals night, also spoke, when are we gonna do something? I'm tired. I'm so tired of getting up here and offering condolences to the devastated families that are out there. Enough. There's fifty senators right now who refuse to vote on HR eight, which is a background check rule that the

House passed a couple of years ago. It's been sitting there for two years, and there's a reason they won't vote on it, to hold on to power. So I ask you, Mitch McConnell, ask all of you senators who refuse to do anything about the violence and school shootings and supermarket shootings. I ask you, are you going to put your own desire for power ahead of the lives of our children, and our elderly and our churchgoers, Because

that's what it looks like. Steve Krai is right. I still don't see how you legislate hate, though, But you know, whoever it is a bunch of people. Whoever it is a place where folks congregate, I feel like they need to be arm security and metal detectives, like all public venues need to have arm security and metal tectives because it feels like these evil cowards seem to be running up in places where they know humans are the most vulnerable. And then they'll say, well, where do we get the

money from? How do we just give forty one million billionaires to send a Ukraine? Or where where do we get the money to do that? How do we send all this money to all these other names. I'm sure this country can afford metal detectives in you know, armed security, metal detectives. I don't think when it did as much, but definitely armed security at these big places, at these airports,

at these mall we got them at the airports. Small schools, churches, now church, any place where folks congregate, where large crowds congregate. Nine percent of the students at that school were Hispanic. It's at eighty one percent where lower income. One woman, Antel Garza was looking for her her child and Marie Jo, and she finally did confirm, thank you everyone for the prayers and helped trying to find my baby. She's been found. My little love is now flying high with the angels above.

Please don't take a second. For granted, how your family tell them you love them. Yeah, I don't care what those kids were. They were human. They were human, and they were kids, you know. And there's nothing that makes you feel more helpless than this as as a parent, because I just don't know what a safe space is anymore. There's no safe space. That is your front page news. All right, get it off your chest. Let's talk about it. Eight hundred five eight five one oh five one. It's

the Breakfast Club the morning, the Breakfast Club. I'm telling, I'm telling what's doing of you. This is your time to get it off your chest, whether you're mad or blessed. Eight hundred five eight five one five one. We want to hear from you on the breakfast club. Hello, who's this robo? Keith? Sports Day? Is my real robot? Sub king? Fam This is everything, uh, this issue with uh there's violence with these guns. Man, I'm gonna retired with sen We see here, n bna. You got family, that's that

tires from the job. Our biggest problem with why there's disrespect with your guns is that politicians who just don't care. Well, I supposed to stop thinking that democrats or are really our friends I'm not a Republican, I'm a Democrat, but we got to hold these politicians accountable. Yeah, but you know, I agree. The gun issue is interesting to me, man, because you know, I do feel like, you know, you do have to have some type of regulation on guns

and you know who who has access to them. But I just don't think you can legislate hate, bro because the triggers of these guns don't pull themselves. But the problem there, though strongly real talk, is that they are rigid because they're against sensible gun control. Everyone thinks that they need to own a gun or they need to an amendment, talks about possession of assault WI things they don't.

You know, this young man who's eighteen years old. You got parents buying a kid's guns and a fifteen like who needs an AAR fifteen? Listen, I agree with you that there needs to be some type of gun control, but I'm just I don't see how you legislate heat. But you know what, let me ask you a question, right, and you know we appreciate you all the service that you did when it comes to gun lawyers. You look at a lot of these nations that I travel to.

What I'm DJing it and you see that the police don't have guns and guns of band, do you think that will work better? Because we had a point right now. It's like, you know, I'm I'm a grown ass man, and I feel like I need a gun, and I have a couple of them at my house. And then when I when I go out of town, I'm allowed to carry, and I do carry because the bad guys have guns and I want to protect myself. I want to make it home to my wife and my family.

Every day I posted something on Facebook like we're talking about the shootings and say the people all time, I used to always say, you really don't think because all these all these guns out here, everyone who who um possesses a farm, they don't even go to they don't even go to shooting ranges. I heard you talk about you and your wife for the shooting ranges. Yep. And but the average even I'm talking about these socall you know heroes out here. You know we're strapped walking aroun

on the street to shoot up the block. Whyn't you just go to the range? Stick controllers? God, I tell you know how to, how to, how to, how to live out here in the streets because you gotta do what you gotta do. But if you're out here to this busting shot and you're killing nine year old kids, you know, baby sitting in the car, sit, this is ridiculous. I agree with all of that. Yeah, I agree. I agree with you, and I agree with with with what

Angelie said about the A R fifteen. I don't feel like, you know, civilians need you know, those type of weapons. But I will say this too. I mean, now they got all types of contraptions where they could have a handgun that that, that has a thirty clip on it, with a barrel on it like this. It's every conversation we're having about guns. You're right, but once again, how do you legislate hate? How do you legislate within a

person's heart? Like you're not evil, you gotta be to say, I'm gonna go to this grocery store and shoot it up and kill all of these black people. I'm gonna go to this church and kill all these Asian people. I'm gonna go kill all of these kids. Like that's something in a person's heart that you can't legislate. Now, you're right, but how do you stop it? How do you slow because the evil is just evil. But I don't know. I really don't eight hundred five eight five

one or five one. Get it off your chests is to breakfast club. Good morning the breakfast Club. This is your time to get it off your chests, whether you're man or blessed. So you better have the same in We want to hear from you on the breakfast club. Hello, who's this? Jack? Good Moran? This is Ryan from fire Us and brushes you. Ryan? What's up? Ryan? You know chess brother. I got a couple of points I want

to make about all this stuff's going on. One, I used to work at a high school in a Newark, New Jersey, where all the students coming in they had to get check for weapons. There was a cop that worked there in the school and the security girls are on point. But I'm feel safe there. So now I'm working at a high school in New Jersey in a nice suburb, and I'm always wondering, these kids aren't getting check when they come to the building. You know, how

safer am I here? That's right. Second, I want to make his um the whole thing with the gun lords. If that young man had to wait until he was eighteen to get his rifle or whatever what makes him not less likely to go out and kill someone. So could you, guys explain to me how changing the good lord or when to make people not go out and

kill people? Brother, I feel you, and that's what makes you feel so helpless in these situations because we know we can create legislation to slow down the access of guns, but you can't legislate what's in somebody's heart. But let me ask you a question. Do you think do you think an eighteen year old should be able to purchase

a high powered rifle like that? I mean, because they're not allowed to get a handgun, But I mean you can get an a Off fifteen or one of these shotguns that can hold ten slugs in it that you know, at an eighteen year old kid, they could just start firing away. I think there should be some kind of limitation. If you want to get a rifle to go hunting, that's one thing, But you don't need a high powered

then if you're eighteen, you can't even drink eighteen? I agree, I don't think I mean, I honestly don't think you need a high powered weapon at all, you know, I mean like you said, maybe if you want to go hunting. But I mean in question when you buy these weapons, Like when you go make these purchases, do you get put into a registry? I don't know, Like shouldn't you like if I go buy a OFF fifteen right now, shouldn't automatically I get put on some lists, some watch

lists or something like that. I don't think you do. But I mean, the crazy point is it is once you're eighteen, you could buy a high power rough a rifle. Yeah, I mean it's not like you know, a handgun when you have to be twenty one. But they do a background check when you do a license, and it takes a day. But if you go from somebody that's not

a licensed person buying it, there's no background check. Some of these gun shows there's no background check, and some of these people when you buy things online, there's no background check. That's the Senate, that's the bill that they've been trying to pass that they've been having difficulties passing. But yeah, I think even to get a license, you have to you know, you take the classes, you take the road tests, you do all of those things. But

do you have to do that to get a gun. No, if you want to, if you want to conceal that you do, have to take a class, had to take a class from no type of evaluation, nothing, just a background check. I agree, and I agree with all these gun conversations. I'm not opposed to any of them. But man, it still feels like we're not dealing with the root of the issue, and that is what is in somebody's heart, Like, what's what's the hate that drives somebody to do this

type of mask murder? Yeah, but how do you change that? I know I'm saying, I don't know how you legislate was in somebody's heart, I really, And that's what makes you feel helpless. Some people just hate, like the dude that did the thing Abuff Buffalo, he hated black people. That's it. And the people are the guy that did this shooting in the church and Kylie that that's kind of under the radar. People aren't talking about he did that because those with Asian people, Right, I don't know

how you did that hate come from? I bro, you are you? Your guests is as good as mine? All right? Get it all A few chests eight hundred five eight five one oh five one. We got rooms on the way, all right, and let's talk about Sherry Shepherd. As you know, she is going to be replacing the same slot as the Wendy Williams Show. But we do have the trailer for her new daytime talk show. Well, all right, we'll get into that next. It's the Breakfast Club. Good Morning,

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Sherry Shepherd. I'm Maddy for Sherry Shepherd. Let's let's support Cherry Shepherd to why Sherry Shepherd's show as a family Absolutely, and I'm sure she'll be on the Breakfast Club to talk about it soon. I'm sure. I'm sure. Now the Ellen Degenerous Show in the Meantime nineteen seasons is coming to an end this week, and Oprah actually paid a visit yesterday and here is what she had to say as she reminisced about her own time when her show came to an end. And I said to everybody, I

know what this feels like. With only a couple of days left. It just was really applauding your team for making this show what it's been for night, isn't it? Yeah, Because obviously you're the face out front, but it's everybody back there that actually makes it work. They know how much I love them, and we're all feeling emotional because

we have after this two more shows. Do you remember your feelings against Well, I guess I'm tearing up because seeing your staff actually triggered me for what it feels like when you have all of these people who have become your family for you know, hundreds of people who are all supporting you and helping you be as great as you are. All right, well, nineteen seasons, that is an amazing run to have. She has two more shows that they're doing. Yeah, they're wrapping up this week. This week,

I don't know. I don't know if Friday is the last day or what. But yeah, that was just from yesterday. Would open all right? Now, Mary's you know, she's been getting a lot of accolades well deserved, and one of them most recently we talked about was being on Time Magazine's one hundred most Influential People in twenty twenty two, she made that annual list, and here's what she has to say about how she views herself being more important

than being cocky. I don't want to be cocky, but if I wanted to, I could have earned the right. I'm doing the work mentally, spiritually, physically, intellectually. What you say about you is more important than what other people say about you. What means something to me is speaking beauty over my life. I'm gonna clusee bomp from Mary J Blige. You damn rightel can be cocky married. Wait, but Hary, good morning. Gorgeous single by the Way, I love you, I got you, I need you. Mary is

a walking memorial of God. Sen you know not many people. Mary J Blige is gotten through. Do you know whatever I have? Like you know about the depression sadness? When I throw on Mary J Blige, be Happy or Mary J Blige My Life the title tray from My Life album Please Instant Moved Changing. Can you put happy now? Please change? The world needs that right now continually. Be an amazing, amazing record to play after this room or

report okay, all right now. Los Angeles Clippers guard Norman Powell shared a video of himself getting her rest while he was at the gym in Vegas yesterday. And here's what happened. I am not American? How are we not? I was going to race here. My descendant is from Africa. Yes, I am Americans. I wasn't born in power and I was a slave. How were you a slave? What made you a slave? Because I was black in my last same time? But you got reading a logo, You're like

uncle Ruckus. What does that have to do with anything our music? What does our music captured you with him? Oh we already, we already called the police. Oh you're on live, You're on Instagram lives right now. You know that I come from a family school. My grandfather has nothing to do what you're talking about. Nothing to do what you're talking about, re literally, And that is the problem with America. You cannot legislate what is in somebody's heart.

And the reason a lot of these things keep happening is because we haven't dealt with the root of all our issues, and that is the hate that some people hold for others in their hearts. In this country. You can't legislate that. Nothing you can do to change her, change your mind, nothing, No family did end up getting arrested, all right, and that is your really probably harassment. I mean, yeah,

she just kept harassing him. She was handcuffed. I don't know what the charge was, but the police did take her away. They do have video of that too, and they said she immediately started playing the victim. She was apprehended by the authorities. Of course she did because she can't believe that they put her in handcuffs in this country that was designed for people like her to be able to express those kind of sentiments and those kind of emotions and not reap any contract ones for it. Yeah,

all right, well that is your room of report. Now we got front page news next. What we're talking about? Oh yeah, going to talk about you Valley and the rab elementary school shooting that happened yesterday. Really difficult and sad to talk about. By something that we must discuss, all right. We were trying to get happy up, but of course the computer is slow and mercy, is that a sign we couldn't pull it up? That a sign for us to feel our feels. I was trying to

stretch it. Maybe maybe that's a sign to feel our feels and maybe this is a morning that we are not supposed to be happy. This is a morning we are supposed to express whatever real, raw and emotion that we all are feeling as a collective right now. That's what that means. I just wanted to be happy though, all right, it is a choice, all right, Well, but you can't ignore you know, the realities of the world

of the day. You're a parent. You're feeling the same anxiety that myself and other parents are feeling all around the country right now, and just anxiety as being a parent, just being a human being trying to survive. But I'm happy to put me in a little bit of a better move. Give you a hug from the front and back both, bah boy, I'm just kidding out. I don't

need a hug. No, I don't need a hug. Oh my goodness, No, no, no, all right, give me hug, give me, give me hug, Give me hug, Give me hug, give me hug around all right, give me hu all right, all right, it's not weird. Why I gotta be weird, Eddie, You shouldn't say that's weird. There's nothing weird about that. I just hugged my brother because we all feel in a way this morning. He didn't had to hug me from the back door. I feel like I did and I enjoyed you. I feel a little better than all right,

Front page News return to favor. Nope, I did not hug you from the back I passed, guess mister, Breakfast Club. Good morning, WRFM HD one, New York and I heard radio station morning. Everybody is d j Envy Angela Yee, Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. After Front Page News. We'll be taking your calls. We just love to hear from you, man, just just your concerns, how you feel out there today. Yeah, just vent man, feel your fields, you know what I mean. Like this is

a platform for you to express yourself. We always say the Breakfast Club is absolutely that. It's a club. You know, this is y'all platform just as much as it is odds man. So you know, if you just want to vent, you just want to say some things, whatever it is, feel free to call us after Front page News. All right,

let's go you where we're starting. Well, we are going to be talking about u Valde, Texas, and again we are praying for all of the families and for everybody who knew anyone who was shot killed in this shooting. Nineteen children and two adults were killed in the mass shooting. This is now the second deadliest school shooting in the United States. The eighteen year old shooter was identified by officials as Salvador Ramos. He was shot and killed by

responding law enforcement. He did arrive at rob Elementary School. He had a long rifle. He also was wearing body armor and that school, by the way, has second through fourth raiders five hundred and thirty five students. So now hours after the shooting, they said parents were desperately waiting to find out if their kids had survived. A sum told Tianna that they had to get their DNA in

order to help identify the victims. Now. Before Salvador Ramos arrived at that school, he shot his grandmother Tuesday morning, and police had been called to her home. They did say at first they said she had been killed, but now they are saying she is in critical condition. Police then received another report. That report was that at about eleven thirty am, they said a vehicle had crashed into

a ditch near the elementary school. Police believed that he was driving that vehicle and that's the vehicle that was inside of that ditch. After that, Ramos then exited the vehicle. He had a rifle, he had on a bulletproof vest. He was engaged by a police officer who worked at the school. After that, he was engaged by two other officers from the police department in New Valdi. They were not able to stop him, so they asked for assistance from a tactical agency. That agency did come in and

they then did bring the suspect down. So they don't know how he managed to get past the officers and open fire in separate classrooms and the cause of the crash also remains unclear, but members of the community did gather for a prayer vigil in the wake of that mass shooting Grab Elementary School. Here is what one student, Jordan,

had to say about the shooting. We just hear all kinds of gunshots going off, like NonStop, like clownstantly gunshots, and the world here all scared, what on the ground, fearing for our lives all right. Also, Joe Biden spoke

it afterwards, and here's what he had to say. Another massacre Valde, Texas in elementary school Beautiful in the second fourth graders, and how many scores of little children who witness what happened, see their French die as if they're on a battlefield for God's sake, and'll lord the rest of their lives. Parents who will never be the same. To lose a child, it's like having a piece of your soul ripped away. There's a hollowness in your chest.

You feel like you're being sucked into it, never going to be able to get out, suffocating, it's never quite the same. You know. One thing that's so one thing that's so triggering about this situation, because it's several, is that, you know, you think about self preservation, and you think about being an adult and you know, somebody walks in the room with a gun. You know, you automatically, you know,

panic and you try to, you know, protect yourself. You'll imagine being a teacher in that situation and this guy walks in and you automatically your self preservation kicks in, but you don't know whether to protect yourself all protect the kids. And you think about all of these young kids who've never been in this situation like this, they

don't even understand what is happening. Think about how you have a three year old, four year old, you know, at the house, and you know somebody in elementary school and they hear a loud noise and how they reacted at so imagine them reacting the gunshot. What are they supposed to do in that? Bro? What think about it? Like this? You just seen him pretty much shoot his way through the police officers that were there. So you know, the police officers didn't have enough artillery to stop him

at that point because he had body armor. The police didn't have body armor on. He had a high powered rifle. So now they shoot through the police officers. What do you do us to teach your students? You just sit there and just wait and pray. There's nothing that means now. One of Ramos is former classmates. He did not want to be identified. He told CNN that Ramos recently said him a photo showing in R fifteen a backpack with rounds of ammunition and several gun magazines. He said, I

was like, bro, why do you have this? And he was like, don't worry about it. He proceeded to text me, I look very different now, you wouldn't recognize me. And they said he also had stopped attending school regularly, he worked at a local Wendy's and kept to himself mostly. And here is Democratic Senator Chris Murphy from Connecticut. He had made his mission to end gun violence after the two thousand and twelve massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in his home state. And here is what he had

to say. Our kids are living in fear every single time they set foot in the classroom because I think they're going to be next. What are we doing? Why do you spend all this time running for the United States Senate? Why do you go through all the hassle of getting this job, of putting yourself in a position of authority. If your answer is that as this slaughter increases, as our kids run for their lives, we do nothing.

These kids weren't unlucky. Nowhere else do parents have to talk to their kids as I have had to do about why they got locked into a bathroom and told to be quiet for five minutes just in case a bad man entered that building. Nowhere else does that happen except here in the United States of America. And it is a choice, It is our choice to let it continue.

What are we doing? He's absolutely right, but It's not just kids, it's all of us, because we see it happened in grocery stores, see it having in churches, elementary schools, and I know it's easy to turn the conversation to guns, and we definitely need some type of gun control in this country, with the triggers of these guns do not pull themselves. The reason these situations make us feel so helpless is because we know that we can't legislate what

is in somebody's heart. We are all relying on each other to keep each other safe. So much of our safety is based on the behaviors of others, and there's nothing we can do about to hate some people in this country have for other people. I agree, and let's open up the phone lines. But I'll behind us. Bro.

I'm tired tired of the speeches. I'm tired of hearing the same thing over and over, and the speeches from the president, and the speeches from the vice president, and the speeches from all these different people when nothing has ever changed. YEA, in the past, Well, how long we've been doing this breakfast club thing. Over ten years We've been hearing these speeches, and have we seen one change? Have we seen one thing put into place there, We're

gonna change this, We're gonna try this, We're gonna do this. No, no, we talk about it, and then a week later we talk about the NBA playoffs again, and then yeah, and then and then what happens? Then a month from now, something like this happens again, and then what do we get? Another speech that's right and the president and advice. I don't I'm tired of your damn speech and I don't want to hear about And it's also on people, and

we all have our own responsibilities too. If there's ways that we can also do things to combat whatever, and to organize and do whatever we can, because I know a lot of times people spring into action when it affects them personally too. But let's not wait for that. Everybody can participate. I agree with all of that, But I'm gonna ask y'all one simple question once again, how

do you legislate what is in somebody's heart? Like, how do you get to the root of the hate that some people just possess for other people in this country? And by the way, don't think it can't happen to you. It can't talk A bunch of elderly black people get killed in Buffalo. We saw a bunch of changing Americans get killed in the church. We saw a bunch of kids get killed yesterday. Like none of us are special. We all go to the grocery store, we all go

to places of worship, our kids go to school. Like there should be nothing that makes you feel more helpless. Uh, in this situation that we're dealing with right now, let's open up the phone lines. Talk to us, Vince, tell us your concerns, how you feel. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club, and your opinions to the Breakfast Club to come on one morning. Everybody's DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club.

Now if you just join us, we're just taking your calls. I mean, we've all been talking about the shooting that happened in Texas and you just wanted to open the phone lines. Just talking, man, We're just talking. You know, I don't I don't have any answers. I don't know why people keep backing like they you know, have answers. But you know, let's just let's just talk about it. Hello, who's this all is? Myers, Florida. Okay, talk to us, Mama.

I just have a feeling that like doing mental health evaluations on these people before they're allowed to have gun cards or purchase guns would help us assess what, you know, what their mental health state is as far as what they could possibly do when they are are access for that gun. And I also feel like looking at people's social media to see if they've been posting disturbing things.

I think that mad like look through all of that. Yeah, I think social media is actually probably maybe just more important than I tell you why. You know, you may can figure out if somebody has mental health issues or not by doing mental health background checks. But man, you cannot measure evil, and I think that we often leave evil out of the equation. Somebod these people are just

pure evil. Yeah, I definitely agree. The problem with social media is so many people have their account private, so it's a lot it's sometimes hard for us to do that. But if we assess their family history and background, then we have a lot of more understanding of where that can possibly lead. Specially Michael, that's true. I agree. I think both. I think both. I think let's take a look at everything, right Okay, So there's so many people that are eighteen and don't have some of our backgrounds.

If we look at some of the mass murderers that eighteen years old and fourthy didn't have a corom our background yet, that's right. One, it might be different, that's right. Thank you Ashley. Hello, who's this hey? Derek says, from what I say it again, I thank all the Steed. Oh you know, Augustine, what's our brother? Talk to us?

I feel like, man, if they worked to make this, you know, I'm all against the death penalty, man, but if they worked to make it along far as any hate puring for towards two aldern race anything is automatically death penalty, I think we'll have less of this going along. Man. I had one of my one of my good friends yesterday told me that he wishes that we did public executions when stuff like this happened. That's what he said,

he said. He said, he would you if you think about that man that did that shooting, bro, and how they carried him on the thing they didn't do when they were the rest of that man. They wiped the sweat off his head. Man, and he knew he would grow hit the death Pimothy, he wouldn't even all enough like that. Bro, I don't know if this guy was scared to die. I felt like a suicide mission going in there like that. And then you're talking about the

guy from Buffalo. You're talking about right, particulate, But with this one, I don't know that people that do things like that think that they're living automatically know it side mission. One thing I know nobody player about it the children, So he automatically was a suicide mission. But I feel like the guy in Buffalo, and he knew his life was gonna be tensing like the people lying, he wouldn't even do that like that. Thank you brother? Hello? Who's

this Andrea? Hey? Andrea talked to us this morning. Um. I just my thing was is why didn't the friends say something. I think the guy was trying to reach out. You don't just send somebody a picture and then be like, don't worry about it and don't say the things are you could prevent it. We have been like trained or like ingrained in our upbringings is if you see something that's not our business, and we got to get past that and look for these keys, like you know signs, signs.

I will say this though I mean it, and this is gonna be sad, but you know, a lot of times in these different areas, especially in Texas, kids with guns eighteen year olds is kind of normal. He didn't make a threat, he didn't say he was going to shoot up for school, he didn't say none of those things. I'm sure if that girl felt that or knew that, she would have called immediately, you know. So it's I wouldn't blame it on that girl, but I would definitely

say that. No, no, no, I don't blame it on them. I'm just saying just in general that it's something like we got to look for those signs and stuff, especially when it's somebody you know that it's been picked on throughout school because they said that, like the kids been ticked on and weed. That's whenever you hear about this stuff. It's been somebody who who's been gone through stuff, you know, through their childhood and now they're just taking it out

on everybody else. So we've got to look for a little science for um, you know this type of thing. Yeah, thank you, mama, you have the safety too, all right, Well, call us up eight hundred five A five one oh five one. I'm just in. I need to hear some positivity this morning. Can we play what happened to Mary J Blide to be happy? We wanna play Mary? Yes, I don't want to hear Mary J. Blide to be happy? Don't nobody, you know, make me feel better than Mary

JA Blide would be heavy? Nobody and shut up happy. It's the Breakfast Club, Good morning. That was Mary J. Blige would be happy morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Ye, Charlemagne the guy we are to Breakfast Club. We're just taking your calls this morning. We're just allowing you to call and just talk. Of course, the shooting that happened in Texas, a lot of people are calling, a lot of people are affected, and we just want to hear from you. Guys. Hello, who's this JJ from San Antonio?

What's up? JJ talked to us brother and uh my heart's heavy this morning. Listen to y'all, but all the main Yes, sir, you said we can't legend he said we can't legislate hate, Yes, sir, in fact, but we can sure and make sure toughs to act on that hate. Man, We can sure and make sure tough for these people. Absolutely just artillery to murder our kids. We gotta make it nearly impossible to do that. Man, every time I

listen to the story, my heartbreaks even more. He stopped through numerous police officers, so it didn't matter what they tried to do. He had the artillery to get past them. Yeah, he had the body armor, he had the AAR fifteen, he had the long rifle. You you're absolutely right, and and that and that's and that goes back to you know, shit, civilians be able to have those type of long long rifles and embody armor. You know what I mean, it's got to be impossible. We have to make it impossible

for that to happen. There's no need for weapons awards to be at the hands of the masters. Listen. I mean, we just can't sit there and say we can't let hey let leave. We're giving up. No, I don't, I don't. I don't. I don't think we're giving up my brother.

I just feel like, man, this country still has in dealt with the root of all of our issues, and that is just a hate that some people will hold for others like we don't even we're afraid to even have real conversations about white supremacy and systemic racism, like you gotta go back man, you know too, when we first got to this country and how violence this country was built on violence, this country was built on blood.

And we can't even have those conversations anymore. I don't want to talk about critical race theory in schools, like we're not even getting to the root of the real issues in this country. Hello. Who's this Andrew? Hey, Andrew, good morning. I talked to us brother, all right. I feel like mental health uh should be commercials everywhere, mental health resources uh to allot of people to kind of get the health they need before uh, something like that

kind of happens. I'm my opinion. I agree with you wholeheartedly man. You know, Um, that's what I mean when I talk about that's another aspect of you know, they hate that existing people heard because some of these people are just in paint and they project that pain on other people. You know, yeah, exactly, Um, and especially has been a male um. But they don't they don't allow us to kind of express ourselves in a sense. Uh, something like that's never happened. I'm not making any excuses.

It's never stating I got two kids in my own I'm kind of broken up about it. But I'm with you, brother, this is a nuanced conversation. This isn't like, you know, one thing that can solve this issue too. It's too much of a complicated issue. So I totally understand what you're saying. You know, I sit there and you know, and like I said earlier, I'm tired of the speeches. But it's like, as parents, you know, if you have kids, what do you do? You know, man, how do you protect?

You know my anxiety? I said, you know, my kids schools have cameras. I'm always look that the cameras, But what does that do? Like how can I get there? How? I'm not superman? But how do you protect? It's just there's nothing, But that's what that's There's nothing that makes you feel more helpless than this as a parent, because we try to keep our kids safe. We send them to safe space in school. It's supposed to be a safe space, correct, you know what I mean. But then again,

grocery stores are supposed to be a safe space. The church places of worship are absolutely supposed to be a safe space. So it's like where are we safe? You know? And you know, you know, I got real bad anxiety. And my therapist always says, think about all the time you thought something bad was going to happen, but how many times did it actually happen? And you know what the craziest part is, you know when you know when I felt the safest, when during the pandemic when nobody

could leave the house. Yes, but that's not reality. That's not reality. That reality. You know it's the safest because you got your family and your kids there, but you know it's let me finish my dog because you know, I want people to think. It's like, you know, my therapist always says, think about all the times you thought something bad was going to happen, but how many times did something actually happen. That works in most cases, but not when it comes to stuff like this. No, because

we're not special. We go to the grocery store, right, we go to places of workship, we our kids go to school. We're just out and about around people all the time. And we got to rely on other humans behavior to stay safe. That's the most unpredictable thing on this planet. Bright like, yeah, no, how can I not have anxiety? We'll take some more calls. It's the Breakfast Clocal morning. Hello, who's this? How you doing? What's up? Brother? Talk to us? So listen. I really, I really feel

like the conversation is going in the wrong direction. Um. I feel like we have we have decided that the answer is dumb wars, and we don't know for sure that that is the exact answer. Now, when you think about it, violence has been committed with use of a car. Let's just say there's been violence. People who ran in some protesters with a car and killed a bunch of people. But we haven't talked about banning cars or made it

inconvenient for citizens to buy cars. I do believe that there's a solution, but it does not involve um limiting or making it inconvenient to citizens, especially black people in America, to harm themselves. I think that is the what's it? I'd like to hear your solutions. What's your solutions? So you don't believe it. You don't believe in gun control, that's not that's not what he's saying. I believe I believe in sensible gun control, yes, but I'm not I'm not.

I can ofcuse you do I'm not a fan of making it inconvenient for stitiens, for those of us who need to protect ourselves family, because you do when you compare it to getting a license, right, you do have to take a road test, and you do have to take a written test. No, that's not what he's saying. You say that if somebody uses a car to kill people, they're not talking about banning cars, right, So what is

this you? Also, even if you say, even if you take all the guns off the table, like in some countries they took all the guns off the table, they're gonna find a way to kill people. There's another weapon that becomes the weapon of choice. That's right, But I think in London they use a whole bunch of nine nuns become the weapon of choice. So what's your solution? What's your solution? Though, we have to be more nuanced

in our conversation here. We have to think about all the technology that is available that is not being utilized to help to help it out in our quest for gun safety. Now, like Charlottagne is saying, you cannot legislate or wait, hate, you cannot you there is no solution for racism. Racism there's no way you can end racism. You're not going to end hate in the world. So what you have to do is make it inconvenient for someone to um to to to basically act on their hate.

You have to make it inconvenient, and we have to be more nuanced, think like, what do we have at our disposal to make it inconvenient for these people to act on hate. We cannot just keep falling into the tropic saying let's take guns away from everyone. But I will say this though, going through disproportionately black people is going to disproportionately affect minorities. It's gonna take our ability, right. I agree, then we are not even arms it is.

But I will say this though, when when I look at and this is just my opinion, this is Rashauan Casey DJNV speaking. I don't feel like an eighteen year old kid should have the power to carry an a OFF fifteen with you know, clips that can have nineteen bullets at a time when our own police don't have that same ammunition to protect the our society. I don't think that an eighteen year old kids should have the ability to buy these type of weapons. I'm with you, I don't think I seen is too much for I

don't think nobody debating that. And even if you shoot a dead with all those bullets, the dare is not gonna You're not gonna be able to eat the meat. So there's no reason that anybody is saying that take away guns from everybody. But I do feel like there needs to be yes. I don't think it should be super convenient and easy to obtain a gun man. I'm gonna tell you this, regulating and I'm go say this for a million time. The triggers of these guns don't

pull themselves. And the reason these situations make us feel so helpless, it's because, deep down in our hearts, we know we cannot legislate hate because and and and what and the other thing is we move so fast. Like right now, everybody's talking about the kids. Yes, this is yesterday was the kids. But a week ago it was a bunch of elderly black men, I mean elderly black people in a grocery store. Then there was some Asian Americans the very next day in the church. Now it's

the kids. But so it's a bigger conversation. It's not that's doing a shooting. So we can say, yes, we don't want an eighteen year old to own a gun. But the other week it wasn't an eighteen year old, Yeah it was. It was the fifty seven year old on the subway here in New York City. Like, I mean, you're not gonna be able to ban all weapons and old guns, but I just feel like there's there's no reason to own an AAR fifteen, a gun that you can buy a device online and be able to shoot

rapid fire at people. We gotta because even if you say hunting, you go hunting. I've never been hunting. You went hunting, right, you're from the South. If you shoot any animal with that many shots, can you eat the meat? Um? With Nobody against any of that, But it's more than just gun control. It's gun control, it's mental health, is it's it's it's it's racism. Correct. Really it's a bunch of Asian Americans got shot in the church, Black people

got shot in the grocery store. The black dude that shot people in the subway, he was shooting people because he didn't like don't I can't remember what he didn't like, But it's like, how do you legislate what's in people's hearts. This is why things like critical race theory matter, because we have to tell the truth about this country. We cannot heal what we don't reveal. We're afraid to even have these conversations about what the root of the problems

are in this country. Everything we're discussing is a problem, but we still got to get to the root of it. All right, Well, we got rumors on the way. Yeah, Well, we'll talk about Young Thug and lyrics from several of his songs are going to be used as evidence in court. We'll tell you which tracks there are talking about. All right, we'll get into that nextus The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Matter of fact, let's get to an Now it's about

Angela Yee on the Breakfast Club. All right, Well, Caitlyn Jenner was on the Pivot podcast and she talked about a multitude of things. One thing that she discussed is the popularity of being a transgender. According to her point of view, here's what you have to say. There's so many things on YouTube on kids who have transitioned, and people see this and it's become right now, this issue has become so big almost every day on the news.

There's something about being tramp that kind of bothers me, to be honest with you, For this reason, being trans is about that much of the population, it is such a small group of people that are actually trans, are really suffering with gender dysphoria. And right now, because of the amount of publicity that it's getting, it's like everybody thinks they're trumps, which is not the case. She's right,

but it's her place to say, it ain't mine. But I will say it's the highlighted It is the highlighted meal on the menu. So if you give people, you know, the option, especially kids, they probably will choose it for those reasons that she just said. I mean, I have no idea. I have no idea. I have no idea either, but I know one thing can tell you if that's true or not. I'll tell you one thing. But you put avengers on the menu, I'm going I'm going to

say I identify as an avenger. I'll tell you that much, Okay, all right now. In addition to that, Caitlyn Jenner also talked about living with Kanye West. Kimberly has been through a lot with the guys. She's been with, you know, especially Kanye. I'm a very complicated guy. I really like Kanye got along with him so well. Two of us stick great together and through w' even when I transition, and he was so on my side and you know, loving it body. He was very difficult to live with.

And Pete is one hundred and eighty degrees the other direction. I mean, first of all, he treats her so well. And when they were over here, Kim is so happy, and Kim deserves to be happy. Hey, keep talking like that, Kanye gonna want somebody feed. All right, you're gonna pull up. Nah. I think maybe Kanye's over Maybe Kanye's man. You just said that. I don't know that he's one eighty in the other direction. Then Pete treats hers so well, So how did Kanye treat her if it's one eighty in

the other direction? You got squeal kitla from Kanye gonna be the next man to gather. I got kit Let's talk about Bronx. Some Bronx jerial rappers have been named in a sixty five count indictment attempt at murder assault weapons. This is all following the YSL case in Atlanta. Authorities in New York have handed down a massive set of charges, and they are saying that they're going to be using some of the lyrics from these songs. Remember that's been

an ongoing issue in the Bronx. Yeah, I'm talking about members, I said. Bronx Tero rappers have been named in a sixty five count in Diamond. That's all following the YSL case in Atlanta. Now authorities in New York are talking about doing something similar here. Okay, got it all right. Now. Additionally, a charge of animal cruelty was added to the list

of counts and connection to a live stream. They said a pigeon reportedly flew in their frame and someone on camera said if they reached a certain number of views, they would kill it, and when that goal was met, the person beat the pigeon to death with a cane,

I guess on camera. So that's another charge that's been added in addition to the sixty five count indictment, including conspiracy to commit murder, attempted murder, attempted assault, criminal possession of a weapon, and numerous are the charges related to multiple shootings in and around the River Park Towers complex. Now let's take it over to Young Duck. Lyrics from several of his songs will be used as evidence in courts.

So but they're fifty six count indictment. They're using several of Young Thugs songs and lyrics from between twenty sixteen and twenty twenty one. Some of those songs that they are using Young Thug anybody. I never killed anybody, but I got something to doing that batter, I got this, she's on my bag, my bat carry get like I'm moving about it. I told him to shoot, to hunt around like he's trying to move it about it. He would like lamb in the moan and skip the school.

That's truce it back. Made me some resting moan, and I had me you back by the moan, and I had me some breaks by the moan, and I had us to spake by the moan, and I got on me on the moana. Rescue me up, only old shoulder. You get to trial, ahead you go. Also the song take it to Trial rest line for real? Yeah you know I killed my trial out of bed it twice straight.

I'm gonna fit it like it came in. I don't know, I asked, I was gonna believe you start like a man and bit cha, I didn't have shot at your mammy. Need to sit down. If you can't stammer out of tur down, I ought my san, take it the trial, get a uphill, take it the trial. Yeah, you're gonna waggle. No, that's your fall. We don't talk to Russell pay for that. Can't get that just if we're waging all right, hit me out, Oh God, and one more I'm gonna do

for you guys. They're also talking about this song Ski and also the song Slattie I gotta stand I ain't never sing, Yeah, ain't killed this the front of his mama, kick myn't my ships. No. I don't know if those are the types of lyrics you can use in court, you know what I mean? Sadly, those are just generic rap lyrics. In two thousand and twenty two, now, there are plenty of people who actually detail the crime that they have committed on the records. They can't tails they

detail the crimes they have committed in interviews. If I'm a prosecutor, if I'm law enforcement, I totally understand why y'all use some of those not those but not those that thug just spit and what he's saying ski, i'd be scanning and ski. I don't even I don't even know. I don't even like when you talk. Sometimes I don't anything everybody doesn't mean in ski. Yeah that just sounded wold you don't ski when when ski come? I don't

be skiing and ski. I don't even know what skiing and ski means, what a ski and ski means all. I don't know what that means. All right, I'm old, Yeah, yeah, I know what that is. That's called ski. But you said you'd be skiing and ski skinn dance and the song ski. Oh you meant skiing ski, But that's what you meant. Word matter you meant to say, I'm skiing? What I know? What you know? You don't remember? I bad never mind what I'm not gonna take. But I

thought it's not like you head nobody says ski. I couldn't tell me I'll be skiing and skis follow my faith all that my all on my mouth he did on my back, in your back, I don't I don't know you. I'm scared to asking who he's giving a donkey to. Yeah, I don't even know, Like, I don't know who I'm giving my donkey to this, leave me alone, let me vent this morning. Okay, but you did say you'd be skiing. I said ski If you said skiing too, ski, that's different to get it. You said skiing, And yeah,

one little hug this morning. All you're freaky. It's the breakfast Lug on morning w w p R FM HD one New York and I heart radio station. Let me put a little bit of the breakfast Club your life. Stop Angela y Charlomagne's the docking with the best. This is a miracle. There is no question that there are problems in this country between police and community. Yes, you are a donkey to the latest on that police killing of a black man, not a new developments in the

deathly Spas shooting rampage. If it was a really bad day for him and this is what he did, and so we are in a state of emergency. Okay. White supremacist violence is it always has been, the number one threat to oxcide. But I'm also very proud that my wife was White's the practice club bitches. All right, please tell me why was I your donkey of the day. No,

today is not an eye it's in us. Okay, Donkey of the Day for Wednesday made twenty fifth goals to America the US, which I always thought was a great abbreviation for the United States, because this is about us, and it's a simple question, what are we gonna do. There's a meme going around, and the meme shows the cycle of how things are when it comes to these mass shootings. It starts it says mass shooting media extravagant, the thoughts and prayers, social media, gun debates, no one

actually does anything back to normal. Look, I'm not about to act like I'm some expert on any of this. I'm just the taxpaying American citizen, a parent, a husband, a human just trying to survive on this planet like everyone else. And I tell y'all all the time, we are relying on the most unpredictable thing in this world

to keep us safe. And that's human behavior. As witnessed in Buffalo and Tops grocery store, as witnessed in a Geneva Presbyterian church, is witnessed that rob elementary school in Texas. All it takes is one evil human having a bad day, one evil human on his worst behavior, and not only murder other humans, but the murder millions of people, people's spirits. Okay, See,

these tragedies take lives. They impact the families of these victims in unspeakable ways, ways that I could never understand, and I pray to God I never have to understand. But what I want to talk to us about, you know, us being the United States is a question Connecticut Senator Christian Murphy asked yesterday, and that question is what are we doing? Okay that me and my referenced earlier says after the social media gun debates, no one actually does anything?

And why is dead? I have my thoughts, but let's hear what us sena to christ Murphy had to say yesterday. Our kids are living in fear every single time they set foot in a classroom because I think they're going to be next. What are we doing? Why do you spend all this time running for the United States Senate? Why do you go through all the hassle of getting this job, of putting yourself in a position of authority. If your answer is that as this slaughter increases, as

our kids run for their lives, we do nothing. These kids weren't unlucky. Nowhere else do parents have to talk to their kids as I have had to do about why they got locked into a bathroom and told to be quiet for five minutes just in case a bad man entered that building. Nowhere else does that happen except here in the United States of America. And it is a choice. It is our choice to let it continue. What are we doing? What are we doing? To Christ? Murphy is right, But I would say this, it's not

just the kids living in fear. It's all of us, which bothers me spiritually, because we should walk by faith, not by fear, but it's hard not to. But it's not just the kids. We just saw, you know, ten adults, mostly eld just shot and killed in the grocery store in Buffalo. We saw the Asian Americans shot in the church. You know, just what was it? A month ago? I can't remember now, but like a month ago, we saw the guy in the subway in New York. He shot a bunch of people, you know, I think he was

talking in Asians. Look, man, I know it's easy to turn the conversation the guns, and we definitely need some type of gun control in this country. But the triggers of these guns don't pull themselves. Okay. The reason these situations make us feel so helpless is because we know that we can't legislate what is in somebody's heart. You can't legislate hate. We are all, like I said, already

relying on each other. They keep each other safe. So much of our safety is based on the behavior of buzzs, and there is nothing we can do about their hate, the prejudice, the bigotry, the evil some people in this country just have for other people. And that's why no one actually does anything because a lot of us simply don't know what there is to do. We have been dealt with the root of all our issues, and that is their hate that some of us hold for others

in this country. This country, America, was built on bigotry. The system is designed to be what it is. It's designed to be as violent as it is as it is. It's a system where people feel superior to others, and since they feel superior to others, they feel like they can dictate whether you live or die. You no idea.

With really bad anxiety, and one of my coping mechanisms when I have a panic attack is my therapist always tells me to think about the time all the times you thought something bad was going to happen, but how many times did something bad actually happen? That works in most cases, but when it comes to stuff like this, it doesn't work because I can't get my mind off these tragedies because this could have happened to any of us. We're not special. Did you think you're special? We go

to the grocery store. I love going to Wagmans for no reason. We all go. We all go to our different places of worship, Our kids go to school. These are supposed to be safe spaces. But what happens when the safe spaces ain't safe? No more? America? Do we really understand the psychological impact this is having on us? This is impacting us in psychological ways that we don't

even understand. This impacts how A parent like I know that I'm depriving my kids the things that they should be doing, like field trips, like going to them all with friends, any public outing. Right now, I'm really thinking about homeschool and my kids because I don't have any answers for the evil that exists within people. These tragedies are complex, Okay, I feel like they're rooted in the violence that is American culture. There's you know, racism involved

in these conversations. There's gun controlled conversations to be had, mental health conversation to be had. But the reason we can't have any of them because nobody can simply put their agenda down for a second to simply be human. I don't care what political part of you, and I don't care what your finances are like you can be rich poor, I don't care. I don't care what religion you are. I don't care what your sexuality is. I don't care what you identify as. I don't care what

your race is. If you don't think after these past couple of weeks, this can't happen to you or somebody you love, you're bugging. Nobody is safe. We've seen these things happen at country music festivals, churches, other places of worship, mall schools. But white people, do you think you're safe? You think that someone isn't gonna say white supremacists and killing folks, So let's get some get back. We all

heard of the first day. First day came poem right first, they came for the socialist And you know I did not speak out because I wasn't a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionist and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jewish people, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't Jewish. Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak for me. Yeah, that's who

we are. Don't wait until it happens to you or someone you love and you know are someone you can relate to before you do something. But that helplessness, that helplessness that I feel this morning is simply because I don't know what there is for us to do, because I don't see how you legislate hate. Maybe y'all got

some answers because I don't happen nohing. So until we figure it out, which won't be in this lifetime, please let Remy Mark give us, as in the United States, the biggest he hare he ha he ha, You stupid mother, Are you dumb? I truly feel like it's above us now. I just don't think this is a problem that will ever be solved in our lifetime. I'm not saying let's not try to solve it. I just don't think it will be solved in our lifetime. All right, well, has

it slewted to my guy Jay Barnett too? Man? He actually posted, He posted, whether it be through a racially motivated act of violence toward black people at a grocery store? Are fearing what may happen to your child at school? It has become mentally exhausting just to exist within our society. If that ain't accurate, I don't know what is. We usually do ask you here, so if you don't mind, we'll push ask you back to tomorrow. That's no problem.

All right, Well, let's open up the phone lines. What do we want to talk to the people about now? But we're all mentally exhausted, And you know I did ask a question just now. Man, I don't see how you legislate hate. I don't see how you how you legislate evil. I really don't. But I would love to see if any of y'all got some answers for that question. So it's the question, how do you legislate? How do

you legislate hate? All right? You can do all the gun control laws you want, you can do mental health background check, we should do all of that, But how do you legislate hate? All right? Well, let's go to the phone lines eight hundred five A five one oh five one. It's the Breakfast Club. Come morning, the Breakfast Club. If everybody is DJ Envy Angela, Yee, Charlomagne the guy, we are the Breakfast Club. Now if you just join us,

we're talking about Charlomagne's Donkey of the Day. Well yeah, I just you know, I gave Donkey the Day to America man, because we're asking the same question again, you know, what are we going to do? And you know, there's this meme going around, and the meme shows the cycle of how things are when it comes to these mass shootings and its thoughts by saying mass shooting, media extravaganza, thoughts and prayers, social media, gun debates, nobody actually does

anything and back to normal. And you know, I understand that, you know, all of those those kids got killed in the elementary school yesterday, But this is something that should be impacting all of us, because just last week it was a bunch of elderly people in the grocery store, and then it was the Asian Americans at the church literally the next day. Now it's the kids. So this

is something that should be impacting all of us. And so I know we're having these conversations about gun control and mental health, and yes, we should be having all of those, and we should have mental health background checks with people that purchase guns. We should make it harder for people to access guns. But I have one simple question,

how do you legislate hate? I wake up in the morning and I decide I don't want to take you out just because of what your race is, because of what your gender is, your sexuality is what you identify as. If I wake up in the morning and decide I just want to take you out because of that, what type of legislation can be created to dictate what is in a person's heart, to change what is in a person's heart. I don't. I don't necessarily think you can. And that don't make you feel helpless, I mean it is.

I mean, but these how you know a lot of is these in how a lot of these kids are raised. You know, they're they're raised to hate people in a particular type of person, and then that hate his spewed to their children, which is his spewed to their children and to their children. And it's a cycle that I don't necessarily see it a stopping. So you can't legislate hate, ye to you know, control or you know, protect as much as you can from those people that do all

the hate. But you can't legislate hate. Yeah, our camera got nickels like you know, it starts in the home. And I agree. I've heard people say, like, you know, when you see like the white supremacists in Buffalo, they was like, yo, his parents, you know, she'd have to deal with with some consequences because he had to learn that from somewhere. Right, No, that's not necessarily true, though it could be he was online, and it could be he was in schooling to the wrong kids and students,

you know, in school. Yeah, it doesn't necessarily make the parents. The parents could be fine, and he could have went down his own lane and his own you know, just been one of those kids. Yeah, if we're talking about legislation, what about all of the senators and all the people in positions of power who have a history of king

racists are saying racist things. They shouldn't even be in office. Right, we talk about all that we need to legislate, these legislators, we had a president that was halfway racist, you know, you know about legislations. You know what a president. It's funny, it's halfway racist. You're right, But it's funny that we're surprised about racist politicians in twenty twenty two when racist

politicians or what built this country? When when racist politicians or what built then wrote the Institution and the Declaration of Independence? Like this country was built by racist for racists. Right, Well, this country clearly has to change. And that's especially when it comes to legislation too. Guess what, people who are in positions of power, there has to be some type of rules or some type of standards that you have to have. If you're in office and you say or

you do something racist, then what happens? You get to continue to be in office. Yeah, there's people who were there at the Capitol that day that aided and those things happening, and they're still in office, and they're still there. People put racist senators and presidents in office, So how do you change that? How do you legislate that when the racist people are putting the racist senators, this system Congress,

and the racist people as president. You're right, this system was designed by racists for racist and I truly believe that this country was built on evil, and it's gonna fall on evil. Hello. Who's this? Hey? This is your phone? Sounds a little foggy. Can't get you Claire into the phone. Please, Yeah, I'm can you hear me now? Peace and bless us to y'all. John, And I am from Saint Was, Missouri. Um, please excuse me because I am at the level of prestivity, if that even is easy using the words um. I

am a gun violet survivor. My daughter was murdered standing on the sidewalker and her friend as her son setting apar and had to duk down from bullets from my AK forty seven. Um. When it comes to gun violence, I'm so sick of hearing a president, a vice president, the tigressman. I don't care if Democrat, liberal, conservatives, any of them. It has hit us at rock bottom speed, and all you want to do is give us a

freaking speech. I said the same thing, a speech I worked for organization as Saint Louis, Missouri called the Bridge. We have trained over twenty five thousand, including kids, including my grandsons, on what to do in case someone is shot, but forwards their injuries. We are the only organization grasp loomed in the States that does that, does that period, no other organizations. But yeah, I want to give money to Consuliss people when they come in office for forty

thousand fend furniture voucher. And we got kids out here that are easily able to get to fire arms, and you want to give us a damned speech. We thirty getting kids killed. We just had a young woman and a young man killed or live. That was from Saint Louis, missour read but nobody, nobody, it's just, it's just, it's okay, it's okay. It got nineteen babies. And this what I understand totally how these currents fatle. I'm angry, I'm mad. I wish they come from behind these desks, open up

these programs for these kids. Stop acting like it's nothing. This is not no dog on gang, no dogs drug, This is not none of that. These kids are hopeless. They don't have no love. It starts within the household. It's trauma. There's trauma. M Y they wonder if it's trauma. It's trauma. Everything is all tricky trauma. I agree with that. I definitely agree with you for sharing your story too.

I appreciate chaw. Like I said, we are the only grassroom organization in Saint Louis, Missouri that all her teaching me kids how to save somebody's life before an ambulance giter. Absolutely, well, let me ask you a question, and I know you you guys are grassroots. How can people you know donating help so you can continue to mission that you're doing. You can go up www dot the brick b RC dot org. A black doctor from boors. You was walked

away from walked away from her personal pronouns. He walked away from his job to start this clinic for the community and it's free. Thank you, and you said the brick dot org. Yes, thank you, Thank you man. We appreciate you and sorry for your loss. Again, I appreciate

y'all and thank y'all for putting this herd. Because if we have more platforms where we can call in and do this, I think a lot of more people will understand our pain as survivors, how we feel, along with the community being able to see that idious people like us that have to deal and wake up with this every day. So I appreciate y'all. God bless y'all. Well, we appreciate you. We are covering you in love. Eight hundred five eight five one oh five one. It's the

breakfast Club, Go morning, the breakfast Club. You know, what are we going to do? And I keep breakfascing that meme that you know says it starts with a mass shooting, and its media extravaganza, the thoughts and prayers, social media, gun debates, nobody actually does anything, and then we're back to normal. And you know, I'm just simply asking what

are we going to do? And I think the reason that question is so difficult for people, and I think the reason so many of us always feel so hopeless in situations like this is because we know that we truly can't legislate hate right now. Yes, so, yes, we should have conversations about gun control, and you know, we should have conversations about you know, mental health when it comes to things like this. But what about just that hate that somebody has in their heart? Yeah, for another individual?

I mean, that's that's usually you know, that usually starts in the household. I can't say that happens in every situation, but I don't In a lot of situations it does. But I always wonder what you know, when you look at social media, right, they have all these algorithms. Right, so if you promote something on social media, they can limit your posts because they want you to pay for ads. And I always wondered when you have people looking up

certain things online, why is that not flag? Like this young man, you know, I'm assuming he had to look up body a body armor. It's not like you could go to your local you know, los or home depot and fine body armor. So he had to look it up on his computer. You would think that whoever monitors this kind of stuff, right, would know like, okay, who just bought body armor? And why? Correct? Like he's not military, he's a civilian. Why does he have certain things like that?

Or you know, monitor the of of ammunition that somebody's purchasing and buying, you know, And I'm just curious. I could be wrong, and I could it could be full of a crop full of issh. But when I look at social media and I look how you know, Instagram has algorithms on certain things that I understand, how we don't have it on you should be able to track these things. Is absolutely when people buy, you know, figure out how to buy, you know, create a bomb or

make a bomb, like there things that you have to google. Yeah, and they find out later on his computer. He was we found these materials where he looked it up. But how can we get and find it before? And listen, I want, I want to I agree with everything that you just said, and I want I want to talk about that, like even the mental health aspect real quick, right, Like I totally believe and I know that hurt people hurt people, and I know that people are in pain

and they're projecting that pain on others. So you know, I'm always going to focus on therapy and focus on investing in your mental wealth. But man, something about these last two shootings, the one in Buffalo, you know a lot of those elderly black people got killed, and you know, watching these kids get you know shot in Texas, watching those you know, ages get shot in that church in California.

Even though I know these people are dealing with me mental and emotional pain, I can't dismiss just pure evil because it just seems like pre meditated pure evil. These people had body armor, they targeted individuals, you know what I mean, Like they knew what they were doing. So it's hard to just say, you know that person is dealing with mental health issues. Bro, you do understand. And what the twelve years we've been working here, I've heard

you say that before. Yeah, and shootings are different. These is different. Absolutely, these are different. But we've say that all the time, and they all hit different and we care so much for the first couple of days and then it just starts to just we forget about it and then we just go on with our regular lives. Yes, that's why even with this one, everybody's talking about the kids and the kids. Yes, it's the kids, but bro,

we've had a crazy past couple of weeks. This year has been a bunch of different mass shooting So it's not just us living in fear for our kids. We're living in fear for each other. Everybody, Hello, who's this it's wrong? Talk to us, brother. I don't really think you can legislate say because like y'all were saying, this starts pretty much you learn that from somewhere like no, no child, nobody is born racist nobody. You you learn

that and you're taught that. But I think, like as far as the schools of concern, like I think person lest schools should be treated at this point now as like the courthouse, like you're not coming in here unless you walk through these medical technis and get your bad search. Like it should be one way in, like you have to come in this way, and it's sad that we have to do that, but like I think that you should treat schools like like an airport or like the courthouse,

like you have to come through the medical technis. And it shouldn't be for all schools, like all public schools for the most part, you should have to go through a security state to even coming to building, and it should be security at the doors, like you can't get

in here or let you come past this checkpoint. Know, And I think like at least at my kids school, I feel slight in the face because you have to go through two different barriers to even get like two into school, Like you have to check in at the front door. And once you check in at the front door, you have to sign me and then get buzz in. And it's like it's the whole process to even get

if my kids school so bad. But you know when you when you have a gun and and and this is the whole thing, and like you said, you got kids and I got kids too, So when we drop our kids off in the morning, those that doors open as those kids come in, and when those kids leave in the afternoon, that doors open when them kids come out. And there was police there, so it wasn't like there was no police there in the dude just walked in

and the shooting was there. The dude overpowered the police, and he overpowered those those locks and all that None of that stuff mattered at that time. When that man had body on a ar fifteens and and all those types of bullets, none of that stuff matter. Think about it. There was three police officers there that he got through, so that all that stuff, all that thing. Yes, it's a preventative measure measure, but if somebody wants to get through,

they can get through. Like this, like this eighteen year old kid, did you absolutely right? You're absolutely right? So what do you do? What do you do? And that's what we don't know, brother, that's the question we're asking this morning. Man. I think, like, if you really think about it, like they don't mind selling guns eighteen year olds because it generates more revenue. You know, eighteen year olds buy guns, and like if you take the money part out of it, like you have to legislate it

like you have to. No eighteen year olds can buy a gun. You have to be past. You have to go to a mental evaluation before you can buy a gun. You have to when you're short to buy a gun, you should have to sign certificate from a psychologist saying this person is mentally and you know it's so crazy. Man, Like you said, you're eighteen year old, they do a background check. If nothing is on your on your record, your good money, that doesn't mean that you don't have

any problems. But think about it like this, at eighteen, even when you when you drive a car, you at least got to take a test. You he's got to know the rules and regulations you and least after taking an eye test to see if you can actually see. You know, eighteen year old, you have a gun. There is no test, There is no nobody training you how to use the weapon or even talking to you. You know what it means to have that weapon. You don't have to take an eye test. You just gotta be

eighteen years old and a clean record. And we all know out there that when we were kids, we've done things that could have been on our record that maybe we got away with it. Maybe somebody decided not to press charges. Maybe somebody just said, oh, he'll be all, he'll grow out of it. And those are the things that we can't do anymore. We can't allow these these kids. I can't even say these kids only because and some adults out there that don't need weapons as well. Exactly.

That's why I feel like, when you go by a gun, you gotta show up with your mental evaluation cleary to say, hey, I say that's a good step, Like when you show it thebody you're gun, you have a mental mental evaluation certificately saying that this person has passed their mental evaluation and they're able to purchase the gun. Well, thank you, brother for calling and checking in and giving us your

feedback and everything. You know, the question was this morning, can can how do you legislate hat The moral of the story is I don't believe you can. And you know, yes, we should be talking about gun control, Yes we should be talking about mental health. All of that is true. But the root of this is the seed of hatred that America planned four hundred plus years ago, and now that seed has bad fruit and the Frankenstein monster that

America created is coming back to the vour America. All right, well, let's get to the rumors. Let's go. She's um report with Angela Yee on the Breakfast Club. All right, well today, what's all about taking your calls? And now we do want to just give you one quick update of what's happening tonight. There's an interview that I'll be Aaron tonight.

Angela Rya is actually speaking with Brittney Grinder's wife, Cherrell, and they're talking about Britney being detained in Russia after going there on February seventeenth, and that's going to be on the NBA Countdown at seven thirty pm on ESPN. Here is that interview with Angela ry What was the last thing she said to you before she left for Russia? That's the irony of all love it. You know, she didn't want to go back, so she just said she

was so exhausted from always happening to go overseas. And we talked about it and I was like, well you know what, babe, like, let's just make this your last year over season. I was like, you don't have to go back anymore. I was like we'll figure something else out, you know, when it comes to pay, because obviously there's a tremendous difference in the amount of money that she makes when she's playing w NBA versus when she goes overseas.

If it was Lebron or kd or Steph Curry. Do you think that you would be sitting here today, Oh, good tea traveling a clus bomb from our good sister Angela Raicher. Yes, that's a. That's Brittany grown as wife Shira, who watched that in full tonight at seven thirty pm one NBA countdown on being like you said, make sure y'all check that out. All right, All right, well that was your room a report. When we come back, we got the People's Choice mix. Man, We're gonna let's start

off with some some pock some changes. Eight hundred five eight five one oh five. One is the Breakfast Club co Morning w w p r F M HD one New York and our heart radio station, A little bit of the Breakfast Club Your life stop. Angela ye Charlomagne, the guy with the best morning everybody is DJ Envy Angela yee Charlomagne, the guy we are the Breakfast Club, and let me just salute to a good friend of mine. Um. Some of y'all know them, some of y'all don't, some

of y'all like them, some of y'all don't. But the Living Legends Foundation announced it's a thirtieth anniversary celebration and the twenty twenty two honorees of the annual Living Legends Award GALLA. Now. This event is going to happen October seventh in La. Now some of the honorees are uh Slim and Burdman, the founders of Cash Money, Uh Tuma, he's the director of Black Music at YouTube. Shout to Tuma and a host of others. And another one that

is actually nominated is our good friend Leonard McKelvey. What I think his name is, Lenari What I'm nominated with Leonard McKelvey. That's right, Leonard McKelvey is nominated as well. Congratulations again, it's the Living Legend Foundation. They celebrate the thirtieth anniversary and the annual awards. You're nominated. I didn't know that. Well, congratulations, thank you. Who is it again? I'll send it to you man fifth Living Legends Foundation. Yes, hey,

what's going on? You're nominated? With Slim and Birdman, Geo Bibbins, Tuma and a host of others. Johnny Walker, who else is there? What are what's the award? We're all nominated for one award? Yes, a group of nine honorees. Honor read oh okay, so okay, well, he said, nominated for in the War. I'm like, huh, I'm trying to show you something. I don't know what was going on. I've seen it yesterday. He don't still don't know what's going on. Thank you Living Legends Awards in me that I didn't

know that. Yes, thank you. Goodness questions, well, congratulations, all right, now when we come back. We got the positive notice to Breakfast Club. Good morning wanting everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club now, Charlomagne, you got a positive note. I do, man, and the positive note. I just want to tell everybody out there, man, don't forget to breathe today. Really, don't forget to breathe today.

You know what I'm saying. If you have a therapist, if you have a psychiatrist, a counselor a spiritual leader, don't forget to breathe find somebody to talk to man, and I really want to salute uh, you know my man Jay Barnett. It's two things I want to read real quick, my man Jay Barnette. He posted on He posted on Instagram earlier that you know and you know

Jay Barnett is a therapist. He said, whether it be through a racially motivated act of violence toward black people at the grocery store, are fearing what may happen to your child at school. It has become mentally exhausting just to exist within our society. It's imperative to take care of our mental health. And I want to salute Nature Towab as well. You know, Nature is another great therapist that I follow. I talk about her books that boundaries find Peace all the time. She said, it's hard to

move past mass shootings when they keep occurring. We are living in the grief of constant bad news. Feeling angry, frustrated with the laws, sad for the children and parents, anxious about being in public spaces, afraid for your loved ones, discouraged or confused about the state of the world are all normal responses to senseless violence. So okay, did not be okay because we are not okay.

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